Re: [expert] boot-time speed-up
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 23:42, Philip Webb wrote: > There's an interesting article at > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster Phillip, I've been reading it.. I have full intention of digging into this as soon as my head is above water. NEAT stuff. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] alcatel speedtouch usb connection
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 13:23, Richard Bown wrote: > I know this really should go on the newbie list, butplease dont flame. > > > That friend of mine decided to replace his gateway machine running winXP > with MDK9.1 :) > > So my phone keeps ringing and hes stuck. > he's having trouble configuring his connection to the internet. > his modem isi an alcatel speedtouch, think thats what he said, and he's > using it on a usb port. > > he has a fixed ip address, and for info his ISP is demon.net( UK ISP ). > > Using the wizard in mcc can anyone help with what he sould be putting in > each of the boxes as he runs thru the setup. > I've never setup an adsl connection as I use cable here.. > > > TIA > Richard Don't have one (the modem) ... but may have the answer. the rpm speedtouch, has howto's and the needed config files. the HTML howtos are in /usr/share/doc/speedtouch/ just urpmi speedtouch and you should get what you need. You may also need the rpm naat-backend this seems to have a file for restarting a speedtouch adsl modem. One file that should really interest you. /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Linuxs-20030211/DSL-HOWTO/speedtouchusb.html this is part of the standard Howto's in English. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] boot-time speed-up
There's an interesting article at http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04BootFaster -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, rikona wrote: > They looked OK, so I sent it. It was done with a quick and dirty script > I wrote. Apparently the script was a bit too dirty. :-) This email > implements the same result with a different script. Is this better? > (They again look OK here.) Sorry about the blank reply, I hit the wrong key ... Well, it's an improvement, as at least the address is now correct. The placing of the name in the To: header, overriding what the OP had there, is still a bit disconcerting though (notice how it was picked up by Pine for use in the reply - because the address is the same as appears in the Reply-To: - so it looks as if I'm replying to myself), but it could be argued that I'm just a curmudgeon as regards this sort of thing. :) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you *are* the sucker." - Mike McDermott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, rikona wrote: > They looked OK, so I sent it. It was done with a quick and dirty > script I wrote. Apparently the script was a bit too dirty. :-) This > email implements the same result with a different script. Is this > better? (They again look OK here.) -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you *are* the sucker." - Mike McDermott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[3]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
Hello rikona, Friday, September 19, 2003, 10:03:09 PM, you wrote: r> Is this better? (They again look OK here.) It now looks OK, to me at least. Maybe the new script is better. :-) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
Hello Bill, Friday, September 19, 2003, 3:36:47 PM, you wrote: BM> According to his headers, it's "The Bat". It's a Win32 app, IIRC. Yep. It's actually a great client - uses NO M$ components, even for HTML. It's very good for security and privacy. Not free, but the best one for Win, IMHO, and well worth the modest cost. I would recommend it for anyone who, for one reason or another, MUST use a M$ OS. The curious can check it out at http://www.ritlabs.com/ . -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
Hello Bill, Friday, September 19, 2003, 7:57:36 AM, you wrote: >> How's this test? BM> Not so hot - that's one weird mail client you've got there ... Apparently so. Bats are weird, I guess. :-) BM> Here's exactly how the Reply-To: header appeared in that post: BM> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@eth0.b.smtp.sonic.net Hmmm... Here are the headers I saw that were supposedly outgoing: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:28:10 -0700 From: rikona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They looked OK, so I sent it. It was done with a quick and dirty script I wrote. Apparently the script was a bit too dirty. :-) This email implements the same result with a different script. Is this better? (They again look OK here.) BM> What's more, it changed beginning of the subject line from "Re:" to BM> "Re[2]:" ... I've never seen *that* one happen before. TheBat has a default counter that keeps track of the replies and puts the count in the header. If it's an annoyance, I can shut it off. BM> Lastly, the To: header had my name, but the list's address; perhaps that BM> mailer app just doesn't comprehend mailing lists very well? Another option in TheBat. For lists, it is nice because it flags the sender, but the email still goes to the right place. By just looking at the To: header you can easily see who on the list it is sent to. If it's an annoyance, I can shut it off. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Memory Leak in XFree updates
it must have something to do with the card your using. I have a G400 running two screens at 1280x1040 running MDK 8.2 Im using a heck of allot more memory. here is my Xmemory usage. 9:07pm up 36 days, 3:16, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.01 76 processes: 75 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 1.2% user, 3.2% system, 0.0% nice, 94.4% idle CPU1 states: 2.1% user, 4.1% system, 0.0% nice, 93.1% idle Mem: 1028636K av, 876604K used, 152032K free,2208K shrd, 54416K buff Swap: 160608K av, 0K used, 160608K free 318048K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 14794 root 18 0 338M 290M 3040 S 6.1 28.8 2671m X 15042 beau 14 0 6220 6220 4096 S 3.1 0.6 34:21 panel 26385 beau 15 0 1060 1060 832 R 1.3 0.1 0:03 top 26349 beau 10 0 9400 9400 8144 S 0.5 0.9 0:03 kdeinit 15023 beau 10 0 14200 13M 9564 S 0.3 1.3 54:04 kdeinit 15055 beau 9 0 29004 28M 15252 S 0.1 2.8 164:34 kmail 1 root 9 0 524 524 456 S 0.0 0.0 1:01 init On Star Date Friday 19 September 2003 08:33 pm, Vincent Danen sent this sub-space message. > On Fri Sep 19, 2003 at 10:40:47PM -0400, Greg Meyer wrote: > > Ever since I updated my XFree packages last week, I have been seeing X > > use massive amounts of memory and I am concerned there may be a memory > > leak or something. > > > > Here is some output from top. See how X is using 212M. Way more than it > > used to. Has anybody else experienced anything like this? > > > > top - 22:39:01 up 1 day, 37 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.01 > > Tasks: 83 total, 1 running, 82 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > > Cpu(s): 0.3% user, 0.7% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle > > Mem:511360k total, 490604k used,20756k free,22984k buffers > > Swap: 306896k total, 3812k used, 303084k free, 129584k cached > > > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command > > 15354 greg 11 0 32176 31m 16m S 0.0 6.3 0:02.46 kmail > > 15428 greg 11 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:02.00 opera > > 15430 greg 8 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:00.00 opera > > 1522 root 5 -10 212m 19m 4652 S 0.0 4.0 2:31.82 X > > 15376 greg 9 0 17284 16m 15m S 0.0 3.4 0:00.09 kdeinit > > 14467 greg 15 0 16768 16m 1464 S 0.3 3.3 0:31.20 Xvnc > > 3948 root 8 0 15472 15m 9812 S 0.0 3.0 0:00.32 kdm_greet > > 15365 greg 9 0 15312 14m 13m S 0.0 3.0 0:00.15 kdeinit > > For which version? 9.1? or 9.0? > > 9.0 shouldn't have anything funny in there at all... that was just some > minor changes to fix the font issues. The 9.1 packages had some fixes due > to some ATI cards... what kind of video card do you have? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Memory Leak in XFree updates
On Fri Sep 19, 2003 at 10:40:47PM -0400, Greg Meyer wrote:
> Ever since I updated my XFree packages last week, I have been seeing X use
> massive amounts of memory and I am concerned there may be a memory leak or
> something.
>
> Here is some output from top. See how X is using 212M. Way more than it used
> to. Has anybody else experienced anything like this?
>
> top - 22:39:01 up 1 day, 37 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.01
> Tasks: 83 total, 1 running, 82 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
> Cpu(s): 0.3% user, 0.7% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle
> Mem:511360k total, 490604k used,20756k free,22984k buffers
> Swap: 306896k total, 3812k used, 303084k free, 129584k cached
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command
> 15354 greg 11 0 32176 31m 16m S 0.0 6.3 0:02.46 kmail
> 15428 greg 11 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:02.00 opera
> 15430 greg 8 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:00.00 opera
> 1522 root 5 -10 212m 19m 4652 S 0.0 4.0 2:31.82 X
> 15376 greg 9 0 17284 16m 15m S 0.0 3.4 0:00.09 kdeinit
> 14467 greg 15 0 16768 16m 1464 S 0.3 3.3 0:31.20 Xvnc
> 3948 root 8 0 15472 15m 9812 S 0.0 3.0 0:00.32 kdm_greet
> 15365 greg 9 0 15312 14m 13m S 0.0 3.0 0:00.15 kdeinit
For which version? 9.1? or 9.0?
9.0 shouldn't have anything funny in there at all... that was just some
minor changes to fix the font issues. The 9.1 packages had some fixes due
to some ATI cards... what kind of video card do you have?
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[expert] Memory Leak in XFree updates
Hi. Ever since I updated my XFree packages last week, I have been seeing X use massive amounts of memory and I am concerned there may be a memory leak or something. Here is some output from top. See how X is using 212M. Way more than it used to. Has anybody else experienced anything like this? top - 22:39:01 up 1 day, 37 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.01 Tasks: 83 total, 1 running, 82 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3% user, 0.7% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle Mem:511360k total, 490604k used,20756k free,22984k buffers Swap: 306896k total, 3812k used, 303084k free, 129584k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command 15354 greg 11 0 32176 31m 16m S 0.0 6.3 0:02.46 kmail 15428 greg 11 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:02.00 opera 15430 greg 8 0 28716 28m 11m S 0.0 5.6 0:00.00 opera 1522 root 5 -10 212m 19m 4652 S 0.0 4.0 2:31.82 X 15376 greg 9 0 17284 16m 15m S 0.0 3.4 0:00.09 kdeinit 14467 greg 15 0 16768 16m 1464 S 0.3 3.3 0:31.20 Xvnc 3948 root 8 0 15472 15m 9812 S 0.0 3.0 0:00.32 kdm_greet 15365 greg 9 0 15312 14m 13m S 0.0 3.0 0:00.15 kdeinit -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 06:53:41PM -0400, Bill Mullen wrote: > Yes, that is precisely what initrd images are for; they contain whichever > module(s) will be required to mount the root filesystem. This is also why > you can't just use an initrd from a different kernel version, as modules > must be compiled for that exact kernel to be able to be loaded at all. Thanks. I have been wondering for years why we needed the initrd's. > Not to sound contentious, but the behavior you describe is hardly the sort > of thing that I would describe as booting "fine" ... :-/ You may have point :-) /Peter -- http://www.linearity.org/turtle/contact.html ``If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us.''--George W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
la On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 04:17:50PM -0400, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: > > You might want to give us a little more info about why you think > > that ext3 is not working correctly. > > Because there is a difference between bringing back / and the other > mount points: Tourned out that the journal was missing (it must have been deleted at one point): when the journal is missing - initrd.img complains about file system trouble - the kernel apparently just mounts the file system as ext2, but claims that it is ext. I recreated the journal and will now embrace myself for the next crash where it hopefully will recover smoothly. /Peter -- http://www.linearity.org/turtle/contact.html ``If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us.''--George W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:35, Richard Bown wrote: > Hi All, > I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so > he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1. > > The onboard network card was found but the interface eth0 would'nt come > up as it complained the device was busy. > > So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139 > clone. > Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming. > The card is OK , checked on another machine. > However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is > the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive. > This makes me a little suspicious !, > Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and > pray . > > Thanks > Richard correct the /etc/hosts and /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny first. -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 03:19, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:53:35 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Bill Mullen schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:40:20 -0400 (EDT): > > > > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Robert Thyberg wrote: > > > > > > > Have had exactly the same problem, which is why this is being sent > > > > by Eudora!! Have 4-port router into a Cable modem. 2 Linux (9.2 rc2 > > > > and SuSE) and two Wins (2000 and XP). However mine has not > > > > accidently started working again altho I've tried all sorts of > > > > things. Reinstall seems to be the only thing to make it work for a > > > > while! Ideas?? > > > > > > Since you're using a router and trying to get an IP address from it > > > (as opposed to a direct connection to the modem, where the address > > > would come instead from your ISP), the simplest solution is to not use > > > DHCP at all, and configure yourself a static address. Doesn't answer > > > the "why", but fixes the "what" once and for all ... :) > > > > Hmm, sounds reasonable and I used to work with static IPs until I bought > > this access point/router/switch. I couldn't get it to work with static > > IPs, only with dhcp. I may start another try when 9.2 final comes out > > and I switch my machines to the final. > > > > wobo > > Dunno if I've been having this problem; but my LAN connection would just > stop receiving (as seen via other hosts) -- nothing would restore it other > than reboot. Then, one day I discovered that disconnecting LAN cable and > reconnecting it restored communication... > I can reproduce the problem, and the cure, for me, is to first 'service network stop', then disconnect the cable/dsl modem. and the router. plug the cable modem back in until it has a good connection (this is seen in the order of the lights flashing) then turn back on the router, then 'service network start'. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 06:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > ed tharp schrieb am 19 Sep 2003 06:10:19 -0400: > > > Having a contractor who appreciates the GPL as a community (and so > > gives back to the community fairly) is (in my view, anyway) almost as > > important as their ability to get the boxes shipped. > > You know any? > Dealing with such contractors is not easy because most of the time they > are also working for other companies. Take one of our resellers in > Germany for example: They offer 4 different brands of Linux. Which one > would they promote more which one less to their customers? > > But one of the main things at 9.1 was the *unavailability* of boxes. I > stop by at our main IT book store here in Frankfurt, Germany. He has a > vast supply of German and English books on Unix, Linux, the complete > O'Reilly product line, etc. He claims to be able to get every Linux/Unix > related book within short time. > > After he sold the first 20 Mandrake 9.1 PowerPacks he could not get any > more from his wholesaler. He told me that they told him to wait for a > couple of weeks. He refrained because "after a couple of weeks it's not > new anymore and people who'd bought will have downloaded the stuff. They > want it now, not in a couple of weeks." > > I heard from other stores similar tales. This may have been due to the > cash flow problems. > > wobo > I would not call it "cash flow", I would call it capitalization... but it's all the about the same after the wash > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sylpheed-claws header lines
stronne stronne schrieb am Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:16:03 +0300: > Hope it works on newsreader line too :) It does, thanks for helping! wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SpamAssassin processing black hole
On Friday 19 September 2003 08:11 pm, Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: > Are you passing SpamAssassin through Mailscanner, or are you using spamd? I'm using spamd/spamc. I have the same version of spamassassin on my laptop and destop system. The only difference between the two is the desktop is an order of magnitude faster (celery 366 laptop vs a 2700+ Athlon XP desktop). The desktop takes about 0.2 seconds (max) to process any message while the laptop is doing the 30+ seconds per message. What could possibly be so different? praedor -- Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] SpamAssassin processing black hole
Are you passing SpamAssassin through Mailscanner, or are you using spamd? Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies, Inc. http://www.coinfotech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Praedor Atrebates Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] SpamAssassin processing black hole On Friday 19 September 2003 11:44 am, Tibor Pittich wrote: > On 18. September 2003 at 19:52, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 06:02 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > > 31.4 seconds to process a single message. > > > > Another possibility. Are you currently doing the RBL checks? One of the > > major ones, osirusoft.com has recently gone under and is no longer > > functional. It is possible that this particular RBL check is taking long > > amounts of time to return a response due to the problems with that list. > > If you are doing RBL checks, change or comment out the scores associated > > with this list, or better yet, disable the checks on that particular RBL > > and see if your timing improves. > > yes, this one can be a problem, but globally is good idea fine tunning > timeout in seconds for all rbl services, like this: > rbl_timeout 5 Where does one place the line "rbl_timeout 5"? My user_prefs file contains only this: [...snip preliminary stuff...] # Add your own customised scores for some tests below. The default scores are # read from the installed spamassassin rules files, but you can override them # here. To see the list of tests and their default scores, go to # http://spamassassin.org/tests.html . # # score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn score RCVD_IN_RBL 10 score RCVD_IN_RSS 1 score RCVD_IN_DUL 1 score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 4 use_bayes 1 score BAYES_00 0 0 -6.400 -6.400 score BAYES_01 0 0 -6.600 -6.600 score BAYES_10 0 0 -6.400 -5.801 score BAYES_20 0 0 -5.801 -3.101 score BAYES_30 0 0 -1.246 -1.604 score BAYES_60 0 0 2.002 2.002 score BAYES_70 0 0 2.637 2.637 score BAYES_80 0 0 4.1 4.1 score BAYES_90 0 0 4.2 4.2 score BAYES_99 0 0 4.300 4.3 -- Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SpamAssassin processing black hole
On Friday 19 September 2003 11:44 am, Tibor Pittich wrote: > On 18. September 2003 at 19:52, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 06:02 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > > 31.4 seconds to process a single message. > > > > Another possibility. Are you currently doing the RBL checks? One of the > > major ones, osirusoft.com has recently gone under and is no longer > > functional. It is possible that this particular RBL check is taking long > > amounts of time to return a response due to the problems with that list. > > If you are doing RBL checks, change or comment out the scores associated > > with this list, or better yet, disable the checks on that particular RBL > > and see if your timing improves. > > yes, this one can be a problem, but globally is good idea fine tunning > timeout in seconds for all rbl services, like this: > rbl_timeout 5 Where does one place the line "rbl_timeout 5"? My user_prefs file contains only this: [...snip preliminary stuff...] # Add your own customised scores for some tests below. The default scores are # read from the installed spamassassin rules files, but you can override them # here. To see the list of tests and their default scores, go to # http://spamassassin.org/tests.html . # # score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn score RCVD_IN_RBL 10 score RCVD_IN_RSS 1 score RCVD_IN_DUL 1 score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 4 use_bayes 1 score BAYES_00 0 0 -6.400 -6.400 score BAYES_01 0 0 -6.600 -6.600 score BAYES_10 0 0 -6.400 -5.801 score BAYES_20 0 0 -5.801 -3.101 score BAYES_30 0 0 -1.246 -1.604 score BAYES_60 0 0 2.002 2.002 score BAYES_70 0 0 2.637 2.637 score BAYES_80 0 0 4.1 4.1 score BAYES_90 0 0 4.2 4.2 score BAYES_99 0 0 4.300 4.3 -- Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6 DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] eud2mbox.pl doesn't like spaces in filenames?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 05:26 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > I'm converting my mail archive from .mbx (Eudora windows) to mbox (to use > with KMail and maybe one day Mutt with a GUI...) and I decided to use a > script to save time (there are many folders and many files for folder). [SNIPPY] Not meaning to demean your efforts, but there is a set of scripts already available to convert Eudora to kmail. http://eudora2unix.sourceforge.net/ BTW this information was gleaned from the tools page of http://kmail.kde.org/ where some extremely useful info/links is available for kmail users hth -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.1, Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.25mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: > Of course this does not preclude the modules from being available at > boot time. When the modules resides in /lib/modules/... they cannot be > loaded before I have mounted / and that cannot happen before the files > system has been checked. Is that what the initrd images in /boot are > for? Yes, that is precisely what initrd images are for; they contain whichever module(s) will be required to mount the root filesystem. This is also why you can't just use an initrd from a different kernel version, as modules must be compiled for that exact kernel to be able to be loaded at all. > If so this explains my trouble. Somehow the process of upgrading to > kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk went haywire. I ended up with a useless initrd > image and decided that it was easiest just to ignore it since it boots > fine without. Not to sound contentious, but the behavior you describe is hardly the sort of thing that I would describe as booting "fine" ... :-/ -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you *are* the sucker." - Mike McDermott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 07:57, Bill Mullen wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, rikona wrote: > > > > > Hello Bill, > > > > > > Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:49:06 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > BM> > > > BM> BTW, please unset your Reply-To: header > > > > > > Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to set it when I recently subscribed. > > > I can't turn it off, but can set it to the right address. > > > > > > How's this test? > > > > Not so hot - that's one weird mail client you've got there ... > > > > Here's exactly how the Reply-To: header appeared in that post: > > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@eth0.b.smtp.sonic.net > > I'll agree, What is the client? According to his headers, it's "The Bat". It's a Win32 app, IIRC. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you *are* the sucker." - Mike McDermott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 7:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether > > downloads should be available as quickly as they are at present. > > Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. > > > > Anne > > Careful here... I suggested that around the time of 9.1's pending > release and got blasted heavily. *grin* > > James I remember that, but I can't remember the arguments. I can't see why it shouldn't be club download only for at least 2 weeks, which would give them breathing space to get the boxed sets done - not enough, perhaps, but it should help. I think I got my boxed set around 3 weeks after downloads were available. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] please ignore
Richard Bown wrote: Uhmm , it took 3mins, so it works :)) On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 21:11, Richard Bown wrote: Sorry guys, its a test to see if my postings are getting to the list server. I suspect not :( sent at 2010 UTC Here is a test right back at you so that I may test the same functionality. BTW, Pierre, some rDNS is better than *no* rDNS on the mandrake servers. Maybe they will get around to fixing that last "unknown host" in the short future Dr John, AKA The Night Tripper -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Engineer http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm Let him that would move the world, first move himself. --Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2RC2 on VMware
Hi, I installed 9.2RC2 on VMware. I can startx, but when I exit from the Xwindows. My console is all warped. I get four tiny screens. The two on the top is identical. Two at the bottom, I can't see anything, but grided color lines. I need to reboot machine to get the normal text again. Does anyone know a fix for this? Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] alcatel speedtouch usb connection
I know this really should go on the newbie list, butplease dont flame. That friend of mine decided to replace his gateway machine running winXP with MDK9.1 :) So my phone keeps ringing and hes stuck. he's having trouble configuring his connection to the internet. his modem isi an alcatel speedtouch, think thats what he said, and he's using it on a usb port. he has a fixed ip address, and for info his ISP is demon.net( UK ISP ). Using the wizard in mcc can anyone help with what he sould be putting in each of the boxes as he runs thru the setup. I've never setup an adsl connection as I use cable here.. TIA Richard -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
Thanks for the responses. On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:05:36PM -0400, Bryan Phinney wrote: > AFAIK, support for Ext3 and ReiserFS, both journaling file systems are built > into the Mandrake kernel, either integrated or as modules that are available > at boot. It is clearly a module on my version of Mandrake 9.1: pan:~ > lsmod | grep ext3 ext3 64608 3 (autoclean) jbd48692 3 (autoclean) [ext3] If I mount a Reiser drive I also get a reiserfs module. Of course this does not preclude the modules from being available at boot time. When the modules resides in /lib/modules/... they cannot be loaded before I have mounted / and that cannot happen before the files system has been checked. Is that what the initrd images in /boot are for? If so this explains my trouble. Somehow the process of upgrading to kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk went haywire. I ended up with a useless initrd image and decided that it was easiest just to ignore it since it boots fine without. > You might want to give us a little more info about why you think > that ext3 is not working correctly. Because there is a difference between bringing back / and the other mount points: When mounting / (my /dev/hda6) e2fsck shows a slowly progressing progress bar. On the other partitions (/dev/hda8, /dev/hda9, and /dev/hda10) it simply says ``Recovering journal. As you can see they are all ext3: pan:/boot > mount /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime) ... /dev/hda8 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw,noatime) /dev/hda9 on /usr/src type ext3 (rw,noatime) /dev/hda10 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime) /Peter PS. I essentially use the strategy suggested by James: I do not press Y for recovery, let it run e2fsck, reboot with ctrl-d, and then it boots correctly the second time around. -- http://www.linearity.org/turtle/contact.html ``If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us.''--George W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] please ignore
Uhmm , it took 3mins, so it works :)) On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 21:11, Richard Bown wrote: > Sorry guys, its a test to see if my postings are getting to the list > server. I suspect not :( > sent at 2010 UTC -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] please ignore
Sorry guys, its a test to see if my postings are getting to the list server. I suspect not :( sent at 2010 UTC -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card
Thanks much! Phil > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have a video card that appears to have gone out. It's a Radeon 8500 LE w/ > > 128mb. I'm going to get a new one but want to find out if I will have > problems > > booting if I put in a different brand or different version (7000 or 9000, for > > example). > > > > Thanks for your input, > > > > Phil > > > Phil, > > >Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text > screen. No problem here. > > As root > # telinit 3 > That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't retry a start > in the > middle of things. > > # drakxconf > > This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things > too.) once tested and good. > > # telinit 5 > > and you will be back into X just like normal. > > > Best case scenario. When it boots you will get a funny looking screen > and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking > / working screen. > > > I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you > won't need to re-install. > > James > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 19, 2003 12:55 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday September 19 2003 01:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether > > > downloads should be available as quickly as they are at > > > present. Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Careful here... I suggested that around the time of 9.1's pending > > release and got blasted heavily. *grin* > > > > James > > Since Mandrake is heavily dependant on the community for > development, software contributions and patches, testing and bug > reports, makin the distro unavailable for d/l till after release > would be impossible. Install RC2 now, update to current cooker, and > by Monday you'll have 9.2 final. The same is possible by adding > cooker sources to 9.1 an updating to current 9.2. Whether the iso's > (or bittorrent) are available or not. As soon as the "Final" call goes out some of us will be volunteering our bandwidth through the bit torrent link at the qa wiki page. I still have a few niggling complaints about 9.2, but nothing I would term a show stopper. It's looking good. I've "fresh installed" cooker on the 4 9.1 machines I had access to over the past couple of days, also just finished a hard drive install and network upgrade on this one. The only one I had trouble with was the young fella's NForce 2 equipped machine, but that was expected and only needed the nvnet and other NVidia drivers installed. Now if they'd just put the super user mode konsole and super user mode file manager back on the list I'd probably be happy. If they also fixed the kde address book of course. ;-) Told you they were small "niggles." Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 13:19:57 up 1:59, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.20 I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I tell them the truth and they never believe me. -- Camillo Di Cavour -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/a1lCG11CaRuZZSIRAsAEAJ9x9e0dtb4+jumI5U1BtL9C/V69DwCdE9Te OGMthY3mMvQ1uKhjDjwiaXM= =dr3c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:08:26 -0700, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > We are OK as long as we never have to disassemble a floppy to remove > our credit card after trying to buy something at amazon. True, but if you are using that button which pushes out the convenient holder for a coffee cup, you can still be in deep trouble when some dumb fool programme tells it: `eject -t /mnt/cdrom`. Cheers! =Dick Gevers= - -- Registered Linux user # 309037 from Linux machine # 209379 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/a1kiwC/zk+cxEdMRAoh+AJ9wsP7lJqwyYvIymKZF5uXv8OKlgwCdGgBV LJHHYaQfM+kPFmDa6H1BDzw= =t/O7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Fri Sep 19, 2003 at 11:20:30AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListE
> > > > > >tiquette
> > > > Also was the info on Hijacking left out intentionally?
> > >
> > > Left to me, I think, and I'll do it today. I haven't checked the
> > > page yet, but if it's not there I'll also put in about temporarily
> > > stopping mail without unsubscribing.
> > >
> > Done
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne looks good. Vincent, Who would be the one who could possibly make
> a link from the sympa signup page to this page. Won't do us any good if
> no one reads it. Better yet, would be if it could get put into the
> welcome letter every gets when they subscribe.
Almost didn't catch this one... (if you need my attention on something,
please put my name in the subject or something so that when I'm scanning I
can pick it out easier).
I'm cc'ing this to Gael...he's the one in charge of the web pages, so he'd
be the one to add a link.
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Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Friday September 19 2003 01:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether > > downloads should be available as quickly as they are at > > present. Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. > > > > Anne > > Careful here... I suggested that around the time of 9.1's pending > release and got blasted heavily. *grin* > > James Since Mandrake is heavily dependant on the community for development, software contributions and patches, testing and bug reports, makin the distro unavailable for d/l till after release would be impossible. Install RC2 now, update to current cooker, and by Monday you'll have 9.2 final. The same is possible by adding cooker sources to 9.1 an updating to current 9.2. Whether the iso's (or bittorrent) are available or not. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 05:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 Sep 2003 1:09 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListE > > > > >tiquette > > > Also was the info on Hijacking left out intentionally? > > > > Left to me, I think, and I'll do it today. I haven't checked the > > page yet, but if it's not there I'll also put in about temporarily > > stopping mail without unsubscribing. > > > Done > > Anne Anne looks good. Vincent, Who would be the one who could possibly make a link from the sympa signup page to this page. Won't do us any good if no one reads it. Better yet, would be if it could get put into the welcome letter every gets when they subscribe. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 03:41, HaywireMac wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:41:09 -0700 > James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Can you say SWEEET! > > Can you say "get a good lawyer"? ROTFLMAO! > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/19/039214 > > whoever at Verisign came up with this sitefinder idea must be swimming > in in it right now... :-D nah at verisign I bet he/she got a raise. James. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:16, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:38 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > > >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, > > > only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal > > > modem. No wonder there was no music > > > > Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a > > modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone > > call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI > > slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send > > a fax, etc.) > > > It didn't do one damn thing for the cd though > > Anne Anne, We are OK as long as we never have to disassemble a floppy to remove our credit card after trying to buy something at amazon. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] video card
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a video card that appears to have gone out. It's a Radeon 8500 LE w/ > 128mb. I'm going to get a new one but want to find out if I will have problems > booting if I put in a different brand or different version (7000 or 9000, for > example). > > Thanks for your input, > > Phil Phil, Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text screen. No problem here. As root # telinit 3 That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't retry a start in the middle of things. # drakxconf This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things too.) once tested and good. # telinit 5 and you will be back into X just like normal. Best case scenario. When it boots you will get a funny looking screen and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking / working screen. I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you won't need to re-install. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
On Friday 19 September 2003 01:02 pm, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: > I am running Mandrake on laptop. Unfortunately my APM suspend is not > flawless so occasionally my laptop powers off when I try to suspend. > Obviously this results in unsynchronized file systems and a check at > boot time. > > For that reason I have formatted all my partitions (including /) as > ext3 to have a journal to recover from. This does however not work > for / where es2fsck is scanning the whole disk looking for errors. > > I presume that it is because ext3 is not build into the Mandrake > kernel and thus have to be loaded as a module. Consequently the file > system will only be mounted as ext2 and an old type scan will take > place. > > One possible solution would of course be to compile the kernel with > ext3 build. I would however prefer a solution where I could just use > Mandrake's kernel. Is this possible? AFAIK, support for Ext3 and ReiserFS, both journaling file systems are built into the Mandrake kernel, either integrated or as modules that are available at boot. My own / drive is ReiserFS and on those few occasions that I have had a power outage, the machine has recovered nicely without any major problems using the Reiser journal. You might want to give us a little more info about why you think that ext3 is not working correctly. I have one drive formatted as ext3, just on the off chance that I need to mount it from a boot CD that doesn't support ReiserFS and it takes longer to recover than the Reiser ones from the journal but it does recover from the journal. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 05:07, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 Sep 2003 11:39 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > > After he sold the first 20 Mandrake 9.1 PowerPacks he could not get > > any more from his wholesaler. He told me that they told him to wait > > for a couple of weeks. He refrained because "after a couple of > > weeks it's not new anymore and people who'd bought will have > > downloaded the stuff. They want it now, not in a couple of weeks." > > > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether downloads > should be available as quickly as they are at present. > Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. > > Anne Careful here... I suggested that around the time of 9.1's pending release and got blasted heavily. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:02, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: > I am running Mandrake on laptop. Unfortunately my APM suspend is not > flawless so occasionally my laptop powers off when I try to suspend. > Obviously this results in unsynchronized file systems and a check at > boot time. > > For that reason I have formatted all my partitions (including /) as > ext3 to have a journal to recover from. This does however not work > for / where es2fsck is scanning the whole disk looking for errors. > > I presume that it is because ext3 is not build into the Mandrake > kernel and thus have to be loaded as a module. Consequently the file > system will only be mounted as ext2 and an old type scan will take > place. > > One possible solution would of course be to compile the kernel with > ext3 build. I would however prefer a solution where I could just use > Mandrake's kernel. Is this possible? > > Thanks > > /Peter Peter, Sounds like you also have a compaq laptop *grin*. I've had this happen more than once here as well. (Others I know who run winders report similar fun.) I've switched to reiserfs over ext3 do to a much lower level of trouble from file corruption. The one thing I can highly recommend. Do not say yes when it comes back with "You have 5 seconds to type yes to do a file system check". The journal will then take care of things for you. Rather than having fsck, fsck things up. Although I've not found a reason why. I have tried to build the file system info directly into the kernel rather than as a module. I ended up with a kernel that could boot and run everything but the file system I compiled into the kernel instead of as a module. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 07:57, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, rikona wrote: > > > Hello Bill, > > > > Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:49:06 PM, you wrote: > > > > BM> > > BM> BTW, please unset your Reply-To: header > > > > Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to set it when I recently subscribed. > > I can't turn it off, but can set it to the right address. > > > > How's this test? > > Not so hot - that's one weird mail client you've got there ... > > Here's exactly how the Reply-To: header appeared in that post: > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@eth0.b.smtp.sonic.net I'll agree, What is the client? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How do I get ext3 journal available on initial mount of /?
I am running Mandrake on laptop. Unfortunately my APM suspend is not flawless so occasionally my laptop powers off when I try to suspend. Obviously this results in unsynchronized file systems and a check at boot time. For that reason I have formatted all my partitions (including /) as ext3 to have a journal to recover from. This does however not work for / where es2fsck is scanning the whole disk looking for errors. I presume that it is because ext3 is not build into the Mandrake kernel and thus have to be loaded as a module. Consequently the file system will only be mounted as ext2 and an old type scan will take place. One possible solution would of course be to compile the kernel with ext3 build. I would however prefer a solution where I could just use Mandrake's kernel. Is this possible? Thanks /Peter -- http://www.linearity.org/turtle/contact.html ``If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us. If we're a humble nation but strong, they'll welcome us.''--George W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished
David Rankin schrieb am Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:09:32 -0500: > WOBO, What kind of cable/router is it??? Linksys? Belkin? PheeNet WBIG-104b+ 1WLAN, 4 LAN, 22Mbps combined router/access point. Has all the normally required features and works reliable except this one minor thing. Preset configuration of deny/allow ports is quite good, etc. It's the ideal friend of a home network. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SpamAssassin processing black hole
On 18. September 2003 at 19:52, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Thursday 18 September 2003 06:02 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > 31.4 seconds to process a single message. > Another possibility. Are you currently doing the RBL checks? One of the > major ones, osirusoft.com has recently gone under and is no longer > functional. It is possible that this particular RBL check is taking long > amounts of time to return a response due to the problems with that list. If > you are doing RBL checks, change or comment out the scores associated with > this list, or better yet, disable the checks on that particular RBL and see > if your timing improves. yes, this one can be a problem, but globally is good idea fine tunning timeout in seconds for all rbl services, like this: rbl_timeout 5 -- member of Advanced InternetWorks group -> http://www.ainetworks.sk professional home page -> http://tibor.pittich.sk personal home page -> http://c0re.phuture.sk pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi, A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed for 128-bit encryption of contributions. I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6, but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that, Konq? TIA DougB Yes there is. I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago and it looks like it would apply here also. Here's the trick for Mozilla: -Type in "about:config" in the address bar. -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name. -Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. Brant, I'm running 1.4 here and ran into a problem. If I used this string, Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) I got an error saying "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Expected a version > 5! Version = 4" So I switched to Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) and mozilla is able to start just fine. James Noted. Revised again: -Type in "about:config" in the address bar. -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name. -Enter "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. I hope that's the final revision. :-) -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake Linux 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk Reiserfs and XFS | KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 12:40:01 up 12 days, 23:55, 1 user, load average: 0.38, 0.51, 0.53 --- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] remote access to text only screens
> I need to be able to get at the screens that are displayed when you enter > the key sequence CNTRL/ALT + F1 etc on a remote machine. I know that VNC > will give me a display of my desktop, but is there a facility in VNC that > isn't obvious or is there a text equivalent of VNC. There are a couple things you can try: Run the 'screen' program on the console, either on login or as the user. You can then attach to the screen by logging in over ssh, say, then typing "screen -x ###" where ### is the session to attach. If you just want to see what's on the console, you can cat out the /dev/vcs# entries. You'll need to parse it slightly (add lines breaks) but otherwise will show what's on the console. There's also another program called something like kibbutz or kibbitz that lets you share a session. I can't seem to locate more information though, but Googling may reveal more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] video card
I have a video card that appears to have gone out. It's a Radeon 8500 LE w/ 128mb. I'm going to get a new one but want to find out if I will have problems booting if I put in a different brand or different version (7000 or 9000, for example). Thanks for your input, Phil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:38 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, > > only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal > > modem. No wonder there was no music > > Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a > modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone > call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI > slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send > a fax, etc.) > It didn't do one damn thing for the cd though Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1. The onboard network card was found but the interface eth0 would'nt come up as it complained the device was busy. So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139 clone. Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming. The card is OK , checked on another machine. However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive. This makes me a little suspicious !, Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and pray . Thanks Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Try two things : - in the bios : "Plug and Play OS" should be set to No - when booting : boot zith option "noapic" (at boot, press esc, then type the name of your lilo entry followed by noapic. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LDAP on Windows NT
I have an MNF box that I would like to authenticate to a windows domain controller. To do that it seems I will need either a samba server or LDAP configured on the domain controller. I'm going with the 2nd option. The instructions are on: http://www.fivesight.com/downloads/openldap.asp state that I need to compile the code under Visual C++ (See "How to Compile OpenLDAP on Windows - 2."). That leads me to my question: Is it possible to follow these instructions with out having Visual C++? In otherwords, could I use a linux program to accomplish the same task here? I noticed a couple links to other packages but the one on fivesight seems like it may be best of both worlds. Any ideas? Thanks in advance... Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, rikona wrote: > Hello Bill, > > Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:49:06 PM, you wrote: > > BM> > BM> BTW, please unset your Reply-To: header > > Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to set it when I recently subscribed. > I can't turn it off, but can set it to the right address. > > How's this test? Not so hot - that's one weird mail client you've got there ... Here's exactly how the Reply-To: header appeared in that post: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@eth0.b.smtp.sonic.net What's more, it changed beginning of the subject line from "Re:" to "Re[2]:" ... I've never seen *that* one happen before. Lastly, the To: header had my name, but the list's address; perhaps that mailer app just doesn't comprehend mailing lists very well? -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 & 9.0 "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you *are* the sucker." - Mike McDermott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
From: rikona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@eth0.b.smtp.sonic.net To: Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:28:10 -0700 On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 07:28, rikona wrote: > Hello Bill, > > Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:49:06 PM, you wrote: > > BM> > BM> BTW, please unset your Reply-To: header > > Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to set it when I recently > subscribed. I can't turn it off, but can set it to the right address. > > How's this test? -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Virtual servers and the Default server
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 01:46, James wrote: > I am using Mandrake version 9.1. took me a minute to figure out you were having a problem with Apache, BTW... > > I have set up about 8 virtual servers without a flaw and they can be > viewed fine from online, but for some reason, I can't seem to get the > default server to be viewable online. > > Where does the default server reside, anyway? Initially, I had it sitting > on /var/www/html but the only way I could view it was by typing in the ip > address. I thought it might help if I were to actually make the default > server address a virtual address, but this didn't work. Define default :-) You have to set up a vhost for every name you expect to serve. Once that's done you can ignore /var/www/html because it'll never be seen. http://IPaddress will go to the first defined vhost (monkeynoodle.org in my case, which is why it has the rewrite statement). NameVirtualHost * ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /var/www/monkeynoodle ServerName www.monkeynoodle.org ServerAlias monkeynoodle.org www.monkeynoodle.org felix.monkeynoodle.org CustomLog logs/monkeynoodle-log combined ServerSignature Email ... RewriteEngine on RewriteLog "/var/log/httpd/monkeynoodle-rewrite_log" RewriteLogLevel 1 # Send the worms back home RewriteRule ^.*\.(exe|ida|dll).* http://127.0.0.1/$1 # Zope-related statements ProxyPass / http://192.168.1.1:9673/mn/ ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.1.1:9673/mn/ ProxyPass /misc_ http://192.168.1.1:9673/misc_ ProxyPass /p_ http://192.168.1.1:9673/p_ ... ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /var/www/sierranevadagroup ServerName www.sierranevadagroup.com ServerAlias sierranevadagroup.com www.sierranevadagroup.com felix.sierraneva dagroup.com CustomLog logs/sierranevadagroup-log combined ServerSignature Email Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Alias /webalizer/ "/var/www/sierranevadagroup/webalizer/" Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from 127.0.0.1 192.168.1 ProxyPass / http://192.168.1.1:9673/sng/ ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.1.1:9673/sng/ ProxyPass /misc_ http://192.168.1.1:9673/misc_ ProxyPass /p_ http://192.168.1.1:9673/p_ > > Again, I was able to view the default server page by typing in the ip > address, but not its name. I can view all other virtual servers just > fine. How do I make my default server page viewable to everybody? > > I have been successfully running a mandrake server for 6 years, but for > some reason, this 9.1 version is confusing me. > > Thanks for any help. > > james > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
Hello Wolfgang, Friday, September 19, 2003, 12:08:55 AM, you wrote: WB> Look at http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/ WB> Is that what you were talking about? Not quite. I was thinking of a "Public Relations" style writeup, in a style designed to attract a publication to write a story about Mandrake. These PR pieces have a certain format. The idea is to write it in a way that would be similar to what would be a story in the paper/magazine (write it for them, they'll take the credit). It has to be written in a way to be interesting, as a story. Users could download it and send it to some publication - they would, in effect, be part of your PR department. The user would send Mandrake a contact report before sending out the PR piece. However, it will be very important to have some contact at Mandrake available, and this contact should be immediately available to talk to. No call-backs here. I'm certainly not an expert on this, but I have seen how effective it can be in getting exposure to interesting, well-written ideas. If done well, you can get exposure in major publications. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, only >to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal modem. No >wonder there was no music Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send a fax, etc.) Ciao, =Dick Gevers= - -- Registered Linux user # 309037 from Linux machine # 209379 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/axTlwC/zk+cxEdMRAuX3AKC1qRCfDapg/d1LmFhNJADu7OVFaACg2JiH W8hrtSSlGgcn25r+G91Ja9g= =mqWu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 01:19, Anne Wilson wrote: > ...> >Why is it I detect a sense of wry sarcasm in that last word. > > > *grin* > > > > Ummm... no sarcasm here... honest. =) > > > > Seriously, tho, I sometimes think this list is full of experts, > > then other times I think all the newbies on the newbie list hang > > out here just to question the minority experts, but that could just > > be me. =) > > > > Either way is fine and I'm happy to hang out with the > > experts/newbies alike. > > I suspect that the noise/signal ratio on the newbie list puts some > people off. > > Anne :g/newbie/s//expert/g We've had some pretty bad s/n problems here, remember when Todd had to get mean? :-) As I've said before, there shouldn't be multiple lists with self-selecting categories of newbie and expert. One list to rule them all, with an iron-fisted moderator, mu-whahahah! And... sympa sucks! -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
Hello Bill, Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:49:06 PM, you wrote: BM> BM> BTW, please unset your Reply-To: header Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to set it when I recently subscribed. I can't turn it off, but can set it to the right address. How's this test? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
Shot in the Dark: Try the NIC in a different PCI slot. Alternatively, go into the BIOS and change to PCI IRQ assignment to get a different IRQ for the NIC. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax "...the right to trial by jury, that palladium of civil liberty and only safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen." Texas Declaration of Independence (March 2, 1836), repealed by Gov. Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and the HMO and insurance industry lobby (September 13, 2003). "When tyrants ask you to yield one jot of your liberty, and you consent thereto, it is the first link forged in the chain that will eventually hold you in bondage." (Sam Houston). -- - Original Message - From: "Richard Bown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: [expert] NIC interrupts > > Hi All, > I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so > he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1. > > The onboard network card was found but the interface eth0 would'nt come > up as it complained the device was busy. > > So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139 > clone. > Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming. > The card is OK , checked on another machine. > However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is > the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive. > This makes me a little suspicious !, > Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and > pray . > > Thanks > Richard > -- > Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished
WOBO, What kind of cable/router is it??? Linksys? Belkin? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax "...the right to trial by jury, that palladium of civil liberty and only safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen." Texas Declaration of Independence (March 2, 1836), repealed by Gov. Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and the HMO and insurance industry lobby (September 13, 2003). "When tyrants ask you to yield one jot of your liberty, and you consent thereto, it is the first link forged in the chain that will eventually hold you in bondage." (Sam Houston). -- - Original Message - From: "Wolfgang Bornath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished > Bill Mullen schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:40:20 -0400 (EDT): > > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Robert Thyberg wrote: > > > > > Have had exactly the same problem, which is why this is being sent > > > by Eudora!! Have 4-port router into a Cable modem. 2 Linux (9.2 rc2 > > > and SuSE) and two Wins (2000 and XP). However mine has not > > > accidently started working again altho I've tried all sorts of > > > things. Reinstall seems to be the only thing to make it work for a > > > while! Ideas?? > > > > Since you're using a router and trying to get an IP address from it > > (as opposed to a direct connection to the modem, where the address > > would come instead from your ISP), the simplest solution is to not use > > DHCP at all, and configure yourself a static address. Doesn't answer > > the "why", but fixes the "what" once and for all ... :) > > Hmm, sounds reasonable and I used to work with static IPs until I bought > this access point/router/switch. I couldn't get it to work with static > IPs, only with dhcp. I may start another try when 9.2 final comes out > and I switch my machines to the final. > > wobo > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] remote access to text only screens
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 1:47 pm, Kitchener, Steve wrote: > Hi James, > > I know about ssh and the like, but what I was after was the ability > to display the screens that are only normally displayed via the > console screen, specifically those that are accessed via the CTRL/ALT > + F1 etc, but to be able to display those remotely on a different > computer. Why do you need those screens and not some functionally identical text logon? It is possible to get the single-user console to be via a serial port, (and by extension over a modem,) but doing it over a network is always going to fail if the network drivers are not loaded, say in single-user mode. The only reason I can think of is if you want to support users who have no GUI running. It might be possible to come up with some app that lets you do that, the interfaces are pretty simple, but it probably isn't out there already. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] NIC interrupts
Hi All, I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1. The onboard network card was found but the interface eth0 would'nt come up as it complained the device was busy. So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139 clone. Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming. The card is OK , checked on another machine. However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive. This makes me a little suspicious !, Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and pray . Thanks Richard -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 1:07 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 Sep 2003 11:39 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > After he sold the first 20 Mandrake 9.1 PowerPacks he could not get > > any more from his wholesaler. He told me that they told him to wait > > for a couple of weeks. He refrained because "after a couple of > > weeks it's not new anymore and people who'd bought will have > > downloaded the stuff. They want it now, not in a couple of weeks." > > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether downloads > should be available as quickly as they are at present. > Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. Which would be fine if MandrakeStore was capable of delivering in a timely manner. But from what I've read on these lists it isn't and it doesn't. In a wider view I can see that MDK doesn't want to enter any huge cash-flow situations at the moment, no matter what the projected profit. Added to which, if they can't produce quickly enough for their own orders, what chance have they got supplying Walmart et al? They would have to invest in massively improved production capabilities that their auditors would probe very deeply. There must be an issue of trust between them and the big chains if they have failed to produce the goods once before, which auditors would view as risk. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] remote access to text only screens
Hi James, I know about ssh and the like, but what I was after was the ability to display the screens that are only normally displayed via the console screen, specifically those that are accessed via the CTRL/ALT + F1 etc, but to be able to display those remotely on a different computer. -Original Message- From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2003 11:03 To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] remote access to text only screens On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:42, Kitchener, Steve wrote: > Hi, > > I need to be able to get at the screens that are displayed when you enter > the key sequence CNTRL/ALT + F1 etc on a remote machine. I know that VNC > will give me a display of my desktop, but is there a facility in VNC that > isn't obvious or is there a text equivalent of VNC. Closet I know of is ssh. Both are text based terminals and functionally equivalent. James > > Thanks > > Stephen Kitchener > IT Manager > > Broner Metals Solutions > 1 Century Court, Tolpits Lane > Watford, WD18 9PT, UK > Tel +44 (0) 1923 652125 > Fax +44 (0) 1923816456 > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 1:09 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListE > > > >tiquette > > Also was the info on Hijacking left out intentionally? > > Left to me, I think, and I'll do it today. I haven't checked the > page yet, but if it's not there I'll also put in about temporarily > stopping mail without unsubscribing. > Done Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 10:27 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 21:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 11:26 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to > > > > the power. > > > > > > Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I > > > did the other day... :^) > > > > Nope, dumber than that. > > > > I was plugged into the Mobo sound card, and I needed to be > > plugged into the PCI SB Live card. > > > > Rob > > Dang Rob you're right down there with me. I spent 30 minutes > trouble shooting a power problem and found out I'd forgotten to put > the fuse back in the fuse holder. (But I had installed the cap, so > I wouldn't lose it.) > You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal modem. No wonder there was no music Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How can I make a RPM source after installed ?
http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/rpm/ On Friday 19 September 2003 12:46 am, Luis Duran wrote: > Thanks Rolf. I will try ... > > Best regards > > Luis Duran Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sylpheed-claws header lines
On Perjantai 19. Syyskuuta 2003 14:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Hi, > > I know it's OT but before I subscribe to the sylpheed mailing list just > for one question I thought I may try it here once. I already searched on > the sylpheed site and in Google, no results. > > Q: How do I change the "X-Newsreader:" line? I checked the config files > in ~/.sylpheed/ but nothing there. > > There is an option to add header lines but not to remove an/or change > existing lines. > I haven't change X-Newsreader: line But at least X-Mailer:line changes add-user defined headers--->edit>Header: X-Mailer-->value-->what-ever and clicking add Then it changes this default X-Mailer:header sylpheed-something to user-defined X-Mailer:what-ever Hope it works on newsreader line too :) stronne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 10:50 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:29, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 20:49, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > Eric, I still have a text file that I used when asked to > > > > reply to the hijack problem. If you get started on the > > > > etiquette page, I'll put that on if you like. > > > > > > That would be great! Your responses on hijacking have been > > > more complete than mine... > > > > > > Here is the etiquette page: > > > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEti > > >quette > > > > > > Anyone, please feel free to reword or add to anything there. I > > > just quickly put it together. > > > > > > eric > > > > Thanks > > Eric, > >I added a couple of points. Pruning ( I recommended it.) Short > Signatures and recommending un-subscribing if you intend to use the > "Hi my family and I have gone to Wally World" feature on your > e-mail service. > > Also was the info on Hijacking left out intentionally? > Left to me, I think, and I'll do it today. I haven't checked the page yet, but if it's not there I'll also put in about temporarily stopping mail without unsubscribing. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 11:39 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > After he sold the first 20 Mandrake 9.1 PowerPacks he could not get > any more from his wholesaler. He told me that they told him to wait > for a couple of weeks. He refrained because "after a couple of > weeks it's not new anymore and people who'd bought will have > downloaded the stuff. They want it now, not in a couple of weeks." > Which brings us back again to the question as to whether downloads should be available as quickly as they are at present. Idealogically, yes, but in terms of income, maybe not. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to modify the way msec behave?
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:29:22 +0700 Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> My clam antivirus has been experiencing problems because of the way msec
>
> behave.
> It turns out that msec change the ownership of clamav's log in /var/log/
> into root:adm. How do I prevent this?
{msec,Verisign,foo} hijacks {ownership,domains,bar}
Sounds like msec is hijacking all yet unclaimed resources -- why I
generally rpm -e the "sucker"
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Re: [expert] how to modify the way msec behave?
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:08:43 +0700 Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > By the way, I've just visited your chaos website and am really > impressed with it, your thoughts, your openess, etc. Especially the > shot of your PC set, it's amazingly "in order" despite the chaosful of > your website name ;p ah, that was "arranged"if you saw it right now... ;-) but thanks for the compliments on the site, I really appreciate it :-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember, it didn't help the rabbit. -- R.E. Shay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sylpheed-claws header lines
Hi, I know it's OT but before I subscribe to the sylpheed mailing list just for one question I thought I may try it here once. I already searched on the sylpheed site and in Google, no results. Q: How do I change the "X-Newsreader:" line? I checked the config files in ~/.sylpheed/ but nothing there. There is an option to add header lines but not to remove an/or change existing lines. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to modify the way msec behave?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks HaywireMac! I'll do that. By the way, I've just visited your chaos website and am really impressed with it, your thoughts, your openess, etc. Especially the shot of your PC set, it's amazingly "in order" despite the chaosful of your website name ;p Maybe I'll shot mine and show it here. And even better, let's put our PC's shot on HaywireMac's web gallery. How's bout that guys? On Friday 19 September 2003 05:50 pm, HaywireMac wrote: > http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html > you need to create/modify a file, /etc/security/msec/perm.local, listing > the file you want "excluded" and the perms you want set. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 18:04:41 up 10:31, 10 users, load average: 0.13, 0.24, 0.20 Quote of the day: Computers have a lot in common with air conditioners: Once you open WINDOWS, they stop working properly. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/auO+UrYxG8KGMVERAoZMAJ0ejD2L+qyvqln/yGSyIcSkS1kCGwCgizCf mbzQ7ANZZKiRvm2UjuVJHkg= =cjMJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to modify the way msec behave?
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:29:22 +0700 Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > It turns out that msec change the ownership of clamav's log in > /var/log/ into root:adm. How do I prevent this? http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/secure/smsec.html you need to create/modify a file, /etc/security/msec/perm.local, listing the file you want "excluded" and the perms you want set. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ We have only two things to worry about: That things will never get back to normal, and that they already have. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:41:09 -0700 James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Can you say SWEEET! Can you say "get a good lawyer"? ROTFLMAO! http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/19/039214 whoever at Verisign came up with this sitefinder idea must be swimming in in it right now... :-D -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Do not take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
ed tharp schrieb am 19 Sep 2003 06:10:19 -0400: > Having a contractor who appreciates the GPL as a community (and so > gives back to the community fairly) is (in my view, anyway) almost as > important as their ability to get the boxes shipped. You know any? Dealing with such contractors is not easy because most of the time they are also working for other companies. Take one of our resellers in Germany for example: They offer 4 different brands of Linux. Which one would they promote more which one less to their customers? But one of the main things at 9.1 was the *unavailability* of boxes. I stop by at our main IT book store here in Frankfurt, Germany. He has a vast supply of German and English books on Unix, Linux, the complete O'Reilly product line, etc. He claims to be able to get every Linux/Unix related book within short time. After he sold the first 20 Mandrake 9.1 PowerPacks he could not get any more from his wholesaler. He told me that they told him to wait for a couple of weeks. He refrained because "after a couple of weeks it's not new anymore and people who'd bought will have downloaded the stuff. They want it now, not in a couple of weeks." I heard from other stores similar tales. This may have been due to the cash flow problems. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] how to modify the way msec behave?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, My clam antivirus has been experiencing problems because of the way msec behave. It turns out that msec change the ownership of clamav's log in /var/log/ into root:adm. How do I prevent this? Sep 19 17:01:00 mdk91 CROND[6701]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Sep 19 17:01:01 mdk91 msec: changed owner of /var/log/clam-update.log from clamav to root Sep 19 17:01:01 mdk91 msec: changed group of /var/log/clam-update.log from root to adm Sep 19 17:01:01 mdk91 msec: changed owner of /var/log/clamav.log from clamav to root Thanks. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 17:27:21 up 9:54, 10 users, load average: 0.56, 0.30, 0.14 Quote of the day: Microsoft Fortune v1.1 (c) 1901-1998 by Microsoft, Corp., Redmond, USA FORTUNE caused a general protection fault in module FORTUNE at 0123:4567. Press [ OK ] to reboot. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/atqFUrYxG8KGMVERAqaYAJwJKJmUvV5CmuBd584VuLWWR3wAUwCfY32s nW8DLHik0aoG4fRfayJdEYI= =FGQc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 22:23, James Sparenberg wrote: > just some food for thought. ( I spent t much time in logistics > the last 20 years. *sigh*) > I can sure Identify with the last statement there... only I have more like but it occurs to me that logistics/distribution and advertising in the USA is the 2 areas where Mandrake sorely could use additional expertise. I can even understand in the current cash flow, how the concept of investing the capital in pressing and packaging 1 orders would stretch the cash beyond its ability,,, but that is also why I think an individual sub-contractor might be a good thing&trade... Having a contractor who appreciates the GPL as a community (and so gives back to the community fairly) is (in my view, anyway) almost as important as their ability to get the boxes shipped. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] remote access to text only screens
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:42, Kitchener, Steve wrote: > Hi, > > I need to be able to get at the screens that are displayed when you enter > the key sequence CNTRL/ALT + F1 etc on a remote machine. I know that VNC > will give me a display of my desktop, but is there a facility in VNC that > isn't obvious or is there a text equivalent of VNC. Closet I know of is ssh. Both are text based terminals and functionally equivalent. James > > Thanks > > Stephen Kitchener > IT Manager > > Broner Metals Solutions > 1 Century Court, Tolpits Lane > Watford, WD18 9PT, UK > Tel +44 (0) 1923 652125 > Fax +44 (0) 1923816456 > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:29, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 20:49, Eric Huff wrote: > > > Eric, I still have a text file that I used when asked to reply to the > > > hijack problem. If you get started on the etiquette page, I'll put > > > that on if you like. > > > > That would be great! Your responses on hijacking have been more > > complete than mine... > > > > Here is the etiquette page: > > > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette > > > > Anyone, please feel free to reword or add to anything there. I just > > quickly put it together. > > > > eric > > Thanks Eric, I added a couple of points. Pruning ( I recommended it.) Short Signatures and recommending un-subscribing if you intend to use the "Hi my family and I have gone to Wally World" feature on your e-mail service. Also was the info on Hijacking left out intentionally? James > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] remote access to text only screens
Hi, I need to be able to get at the screens that are displayed when you enter the key sequence CNTRL/ALT + F1 etc on a remote machine. I know that VNC will give me a display of my desktop, but is there a facility in VNC that isn't obvious or is there a text equivalent of VNC. Thanks Stephen Kitchener IT Manager Broner Metals Solutions 1 Century Court, Tolpits Lane Watford, WD18 9PT, UK Tel +44 (0) 1923 652125 Fax +44 (0) 1923816456 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] hijacking: was Gopher was something else
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 20:49, Eric Huff wrote: > > Eric, I still have a text file that I used when asked to reply to the > > hijack problem. If you get started on the etiquette page, I'll put > > that on if you like. > > That would be great! Your responses on hijacking have been more > complete than mine... > > Here is the etiquette page: > > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette > > Anyone, please feel free to reword or add to anything there. I just > quickly put it together. > > eric Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 21:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Thursday 18 September 2003 11:26 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to the power. > > > > Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I did the other > > day... :^) > > Nope, dumber than that. > > I was plugged into the Mobo sound card, and I needed to be plugged into the > PCI SB Live card. > > Rob Dang Rob you're right down there with me. I spent 30 minutes trouble shooting a power problem and found out I'd forgotten to put the fuse back in the fuse holder. (But I had installed the cap, so I wouldn't lose it.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 00:04, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > James Sparenberg schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:23:03 -0700: > > [lesson on sales figures] > > Now yes the sales numbers are small (they better be) One Fry's near > > me does 300 RH boxes a month on average (insider knowledge here.) or > > 3600 a year. They aren't the top store either. Times the 20 stores > > they have, that's 72000 boxes a year. So a Walmart would order a lot > > more boxes than 1. > > > > just some food for thought. ( I spent t much time in logistics > > the last 20 years. *sigh*) > > So this would mean, Mandrake stopped this line of sales just because > they could not afford to produce this many boxes. Right? > > wobo Wobo, Now this is the single most reasonable explanation I've heard. Since the normal course of action in Software is to take a PO(Purchase Order) to the bank and get a short term loan to cover the cost of manf. In hardware Companies are willing to do 25 25 50 (25% upfront, 25% When ready to begin shipping,or at a scheduled point, 50% upon reciept of product, due within 90 days.) I guess at this point it's a matter of finding out what the limitations are in terms of production run and where it would be most affective to place the product. Perhaps doing an Amazon. Where MDK becomes a fulfillment house for hundreds (or 10's) of websites around the net that can then sell/promote the product for MDK, with the site getting a "cut" of the action. Sites like pclinuxonline.com come to mind as naturals for this. Best product for this would perhaps be the 7CD w/o book set and the 2 DVD w/o book set. Since it is less expensive to manufacture and package. I'm not sure what the logistics are here (or software needs.)or if it's practical. My only real interest is a selfish one. I want to be able to use urpmi + Mandrake. But I'm tired of handing out free copies. I want to be able to tell people again, "Go buy the CD's and when you get them I'll help you get started." My first copy of MDK came with a mag called Maximum Linux (it was 6.2 or 6.1) and I've been buying in one form or another every one since then. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
John Wilson schrieb am Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:17:34 -0700: > > Look at http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/ > > Is that what you were talking about? > > That's one good place. But for a quicky "sales" thing it needs to be > distilled a little bit. Not only to show that people can make/save > money using MDK, a lot of small buisnesses think of saving first, but > also on stablilty, performance, ease of use and maintenance and so on. The site was primariliy meant as a help source for IT people who need more ammo to present the virtues of Mandrake Linux to their bosses. A good task would be to "destill" a mere list of companies/edus/govs who are using Mandrake Linux and rub that under every nose you can find. But I think one could generate a nice paper out of this bizcases page together with corporation related news flashes from the news page (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fnews.php3). wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
John Wilson schrieb am Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:11:28 -0700: > That would be a natural partnership, and I doubt that even Wolfgang > can find fault with that idea. :-) Of course not! :) Every idea which helps Mandrake sell boxes is a good idea. But wasn't there a bit of polluted air between Walmart and Mandrake following the poor display of pre-installed Mandrake on the pcs they sold? BTW: Ovaltine was a Swiss product (original "Ovomaltine"), produced by Wander AG. Wander AG brought it to USA in Villa Park, 1917. Wander AG still exists in Switzerland as part of ABF (Associated British Food) and they are still producing Ovomaltine. Modern Ovomaltine products: http://www.wander.ch/cgi/de/products/breakfast/ovomaltine/index.asp Villa Park history (see 3rd paragraph about Wander AG): http://www.vphistoricalsociety.com/history.htm So, John, if ever your nostalgic café needs supply of Ovaltine, tell them to call ABF in USA. I was born 1946 so I was raised with American milk powder, Hershey bars and Ovomaltine. :) wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Virtual servers and the Default server
I am using Mandrake version 9.1. I have set up about 8 virtual servers without a flaw and they can be viewed fine from online, but for some reason, I can't seem to get the default server to be viewable online. Where does the default server reside, anyway? Initially, I had it sitting on /var/www/html but the only way I could view it was by typing in the ip address. I thought it might help if I were to actually make the default server address a virtual address, but this didn't work. Again, I was able to view the default server page by typing in the ip address, but not its name. I can view all other virtual servers just fine. How do I make my default server page viewable to everybody? I have been successfully running a mandrake server for 6 years, but for some reason, this 9.1 version is confusing me. Thanks for any help. james Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Problem with Mozilla Texstar package
Hello! I need to use e-mail encryption, so I decided to move my mail accounts from KMail to Mozilla (could not get Aegypten-plugin to work). Installed latest and greatest Mozilla 1.4 Texstar packages. Installed fine. Created new accounts and copied over all mail folders. Lots of work, everything fine. For some reason Mozilla was English-only (I am using Estonian locale here). So I did my mistake. Surfing through prefs I found an option to download localisation packakge. Tried to download. Said I had to try again as root. Started moz as root, downloaded and installed the package. After restart, mozilla under root is working OK, with Estonian locale. When I launch mozilla as user MozillaMail launches an empty window, with a single Enigmail button on the toolbar, no menus. Even this button does not react. No access to any prefs, nothing. I guess it might be a conflict between texstar package, Mandrake 9.1 and mozilla language pack but is it possible to solve it without uninstalling and repeating all the (rather lengthy) process. Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:43 am, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Thu Sep 18, 2003 at 07:29:36PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > > Thanks from here too for the hard work you do Vincent. Tuning > > > > in to the list on top of security updates is over and above > > > > the call of duty :-) > > > > > > =) Unfortunately, there's no one else active on the expert > > > list.. the developers are (understandably) taken up on the > > > cooker list, so someone has to hang out here with the > > > experts... =) > > > > Vincent, > > > >Why is it I detect a sense of wry sarcasm in that last word. > > *grin* > > Ummm... no sarcasm here... honest. =) > > Seriously, tho, I sometimes think this list is full of experts, > then other times I think all the newbies on the newbie list hang > out here just to question the minority experts, but that could just > be me. =) > > Either way is fine and I'm happy to hang out with the > experts/newbies alike. I suspect that the noise/signal ratio on the newbie list puts some people off. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
On September 19, 2003 12:08 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > rikona rikona schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:56:43 -0700: > > Good idea. Perhaps there could be a repository for press releases > > showing how useful Mandrake can be for some application. For example, > > suppose there were several releases showing how school X, Y & Z saved > > a lot of money by using Mandrake instead of another OS. Although local > > users would have to do some legwork, it might be necessary for > > Mandrake to supply some contact support to be credible with the > > publisher. > > Look at http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/ > Is that what you were talking about? > > wobo That's one good place. But for a quicky "sales" thing it needs to be distilled a little bit. Not only to show that people can make/save money using MDK, a lot of small buisnesses think of saving first, but also on stablilty, performance, ease of use and maintenance and so on. It's a lovely start though :) ttfn John (who might be contributing soon to that page :) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
On September 18, 2003 07:23 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > ... (Less exposure always means decreased > sales. period. Anyone who says otherwise needs to go to work for > Ovaltine.) (note: Ovaltine was the #1 chocolate Milk powder in the US > with about 80% market share at one time. So they decided to stop > advertising, and cut sales staff. product line eventually died.) Agreed..in the Depression it was also sold and marketed as a healthy milk replacement, true in the sense that it was a lot better for you than, say, Nestle Quik or the other imitators that popped up. (Ovaltine did contain real milk powder.) And they were good sales and marketing people too. We still have a depression era cafe known as the Ovaltine Cafe that started up serving a drink that was locally popular here..using Ovaltine intsead of milk in the coffee. The company caught wind of it in 1931 or so and considered suing for trademark infrigment. When the looked at what the cafe was doing and that it was, basically, free promotion they gave the cafe the okay to continue with the name. Until the product line died the continued with the drink and when they> just some food for thought. ( I spent t much time in logistics > the last 20 years. *sigh*) heard the line was dying they bought a warehouse full of it and continue to sell it to the present day. At vastly inflated prices, of course. :-) > > Now yes the sales numbers are small (they better be) One Fry's near > me does 300 RH boxes a month on average (insider knowledge here.) or > 3600 a year. They aren't the top store either. Times the 20 stores > they have, that's 72000 boxes a year. So a Walmart would order a lot > more boxes than 1. > I doubt that system wide Walmart would order anything less. And we need to remember that Walmark sells a computer with MDK preinstalled so I'd suggest to all and sundry that they'd be delighted to be able to flog off a few boxed sets to sell to people who bought that fscked peice of junk called XP. That would be a natural partnership, and I doubt that even Wolfgang can find fault with that idea. :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > > Hi, > > A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly > > it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed > > for 128-bit encryption of contributions. > > I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6, > > but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that, > > Konq? > > > > TIA > > DougB > > Yes there is. I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago > and it looks like it would apply here also. > > Here's the trick for Mozilla: > > -Type in "about:config" in the address bar. > -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String > -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name. > -Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 > (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string. > -Restart Mozilla and you're done. Brant, I'm running 1.4 here and ran into a problem. If I used this string, Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) I got an error saying "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Expected a version > 5! Version = 4" So I switched to Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) and mozilla is able to start just fine. James > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How users can help Mandrake (semi hijack)
rikona rikona schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:56:43 -0700: > Good idea. Perhaps there could be a repository for press releases > showing how useful Mandrake can be for some application. For example, > suppose there were several releases showing how school X, Y & Z saved > a lot of money by using Mandrake instead of another OS. Although local > users would have to do some legwork, it might be necessary for > Mandrake to supply some contact support to be credible with the > publisher. Look at http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/ Is that what you were talking about? wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility
James Sparenberg schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:23:03 -0700: [lesson on sales figures] > Now yes the sales numbers are small (they better be) One Fry's near > me does 300 RH boxes a month on average (insider knowledge here.) or > 3600 a year. They aren't the top store either. Times the 20 stores > they have, that's 72000 boxes a year. So a Walmart would order a lot > more boxes than 1. > > just some food for thought. ( I spent t much time in logistics > the last 20 years. *sigh*) So this would mean, Mandrake stopped this line of sales just because they could not afford to produce this many boxes. Right? wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
