Re: [expert] Getting a 100% linux compatible scanner

2003-10-12 Thread diego
OK, I'll have a look at 1660.

Thanks to all!


El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 20:31, Richard Urwin escribió:
> On Saturday 11 Oct 2003 11:13 am, diego wrote:
> > Hello world!
> > I want to buy a scanner now, and after looking in MDK's hardware
> > database and having googled arround a while, being not able to get to
> > sane-project web,... yet I am not sure about it at all.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a good linux compatible scanner (USB, >=1200x2400,
> 
> The TWiKi Scanners page will be quite useful for you: 
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ScaNners
> 
> If you will want to do film (negative and slide) scanning, the Epson 1260 
> doesn't get very good reports under Linux. If you can find a 1660 it gets 
> good reports. The 1670 is not Linux compatible. I swapped my 1670 for a 2400 
> and I'm well pleased with it, but it's a bit above your price threshold.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Getting a 100% linux compatible scanner

2003-10-12 Thread diego
OK,something similar happened to me with a pda (no linux available)

Thanks for your info.


El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 13:21, HaywireMac escribió:
> On 11 Oct 2003 13:13:45 +0200
> diego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend a good linux compatible scanner
> 
> Every HP model *except* the 2300C should work just fine.
> 
> Guess which model *I* have ;-)
> 
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 15:08, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > I am DETERMINED to get past their nonsense and access my account
> > > information USING KONQUEROR DAMNIT!  So there.  It does still
> > > happen, this nonsense, and spoofing a browser doesn't always
> > > work.
> > > 
> > > praedor
> > 
> > oops forgot an example page
> > 
> > http://supportwizard.com
> 
> This works fine with firebird. 

yep and mozilla and links (graphical) and browsex
but not in Konqueror. Oh and I did send a mistake. This one is 
perl cgi not asp.  I lost my asp link.

James
 
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> 
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 18:44, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:16:01 -0400
> Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > A recent experience:
> > During dinner a week or so back, SheThatIs decreed that the purchase and 
> > installation of a new mailbox and post was essential to my continued 
> > happiness. There are two major sources for such purchases in this neck of
> > the woods -- Lowe's and Home Depot. Wanting to eliminate schlepping
> > between the two stores, I decided to visit to each company's web site to
> > compare their offerings. Fired up Konq, went to Lowe's, and saw what they
> > had. Next stop, Home Depot. Oops! Some nitwit has decided that since I
> > would not be able to enjoy the full benefits of their site because I was
> > not running either Netscape 4.0 or IE 4.0; further access was denied.
> > 
> > The next morning I dropped about $150 at Lowe's for the mailbox, mailbox
> > post, and some other stuff.
> > 
> > Yes, I could reconfigure to Konq to get past Home Depot's barrier, but why
> > the hell should I? They are the ones trying to sell something to me.
> > 
> > And yes, I thought about sending them a nastygram, but that was not in the
> > 
> > list of options. (Remember when every website had a Contact Webmaster
> > link?) Then too, would anyone who considers Netscape 4.0 and IE 4.0 to be
> > the latest and greatest understand my complaint? The idiot must still
> > think it's 1997.
> 
> I have done that three times (I'm old enough to blame the fact that I forget
> about Home Depot and Konq), each time I send a postcard addressed to the
> manager of the local store about the situation.
> 
> Third time I got a reply back apologizing, explaining that it was handled by
> corporate, AND a nice juicy discount coupon (that I may or may not use). 
> I'd be interested to hear his explanation about why he was offering 50% off
> for an old senile linux geek.  ;-)
> 
> Tim

Tim just for fun I ran Mozilla and IE6 against the site.  They are half
right.  They don't work with IE6 ... but they work fine with Mozilla
*grin* Guess they are a Linux site after all.  And I may have a reason. 
It's running Netscape server on hp-ux.  

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[expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread James
Ok.. thank you all for your help.  I now have ProFTPD installed.  Though,
I still don't know what to do to get it working.  I typed "service proftpd
start" and it started ok.

The config is the original base set up for anonymous login.  I don't want
that.  I just want to allow certain individuals, such as myself, ftp
access.

All of the previous suggestions made here on this mail list have been
lost.  My hard drive crashed a few days ago, and I have lost everything
not saved on CD, including emails.

Anyway, I have ProFTPD running, I just need a good configuration file to
allow specific users.

Thanks again.

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Re: [expert] nvidia driver - no console display (urgent help needed)

2003-10-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 05:44:27 +0200
Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I looked at the nvidia errata and FAQ. They have something about
> laptops but they claim that switching from a graphics display to a
> text display works ok.

Try it using vga=normal.
That will be without fb.

FB can cause problems on some system with either nvidia and ati
(radeons). 
The later 2.4 kernels appear to have fixed ati but nvidia
can still be problematic.


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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 01:15, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday I presented Mandrake Linux to some guys and gave them a copy
> of the RC2 CDs from which I installed on 2 machines without problems. So
> the ISOs are correct.
> 
> One of them started right away as soon as he came home and mailed:
> 
> During 'System installation' an error occurred:
> ---
> /mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png: Image file
> '/mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png' contains no data.
> ---
> 
> I don't know his machine or any other information.
> 
> I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> 
> 1. Try a text installation
> 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD drive.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> wobo
> 
imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 





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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 05:07, James wrote:
> Ok.. thank you all for your help.  I now have ProFTPD installed.  Though,
> I still don't know what to do to get it working.  I typed "service proftpd
> start" and it started ok.
> 
> The config is the original base set up for anonymous login.  I don't want
> that.  I just want to allow certain individuals, such as myself, ftp
> access.
> 
> All of the previous suggestions made here on this mail list have been
> lost.  My hard drive crashed a few days ago, and I have lost everything
> not saved on CD, including emails.
> 
> Anyway, I have ProFTPD running, I just need a good configuration file to
> allow specific users.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> james
> 
I don't use proftp, so I ain't much help there.

 but anything on this list is in the archive.
"http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/"; so it ain't lost. there is
also an archive at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com
(that searches a little better, imho)


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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:

> > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > 
> > 1. Try a text installation
> > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > drive.
> > 
> > Any other suggestions?
> > 
> > wobo
> > 
> imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 

He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).

Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)

Anyhow, Linux is spreading!

BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
Linux at the end of this year:
http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm

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Re: [expert] nvidia driver - no console display (urgent help needed)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Charles A Edwards schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:41:33 +:

> Try it using vga=normal.
> That will be without fb.

That was the first thing I did (and it was also the standard after
installation).
I already wrote that I tried ALL available settings of 'vga=' in
lilo.conf, that included 'normal', 'ask' and all hex numbers in the
list.

It seems to be a very special combination of the hardware (adapter and
screen) and the driver. The forum address I received here in another
mail is full of different messages about this.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

2003-10-12 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 09 October 2003 21:30, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Ok,
> 
> I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> 
> urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> 
> urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> 
> urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> changes to accompany it as well.) 
> 
> urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> 
> why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> 
> urpmi kernel.
> 
I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.

The balance of my plan is as follows:

1) remove all plf and Texstar packages

2) urpmi.removemedia -a

3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror

4) urpmi urpmi

5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm

6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there

7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 08:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:
> 
> > > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > > 
> > > 1. Try a text installation
> > > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > > 
> > imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> > I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 
> 
> He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
> everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
> Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).
> 
> Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)
> 
> Anyhow, Linux is spreading!
> 
> BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> Linux at the end of this year:
> http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> 
> wobo
is that for real? the barbie stuff?


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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Glen Kjærulff
>  
> > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > Linux at the end of this year:
> > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > 
> > wobo
> is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> 

no its a joke, read it again.

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Glen Kjærulff schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:37:55 +0200:

> no its a joke, read it again.

[quote]
"Most girls up through adult women become frightened and confused, often
hysterical when presented with a traditional command prompt," Cesterino
explained.
[unquote]

Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
go.

And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
realistic as well.

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[expert] winnt/system32/cmd.exe replaced with 300meg movie

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
I am considering sending every win box that is requesting
winnt/system32/cmd.exe with an 300 meg avi, renamed cmd.exe, and stored
in a folder off my Apache Document root named winnt/system32.

I am wondering about the drawbacks, other than the bandwidth waste and
tying up my pipe.
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Brian Parish
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:25, ed tharp wrote:
> > 
> > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > Linux at the end of this year:
> > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > 
> > wobo
> is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> 
Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version in
which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)


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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call 
linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java or 
javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One error message I 
received when trying to bypass their filters for Netscape or IE indicated 
that they are using Apache Tomcat, hence they are not a doze shop (good for 
them).  At this point, I either assume that konqueror is STILL broken with 
regards to javascript (KDE 3.1.3) or they are simply specifically looking for 
either mozilla or IE and if detecting neither, produce the download page for 
either.

I tried to reset my password/user ID on the site using konqueror and got this:
- ---
Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 - /portal/jsp/portal.jsp

description The requested resource (/portal/jsp/portal.jsp) is not available.
- ---

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 02:44 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 15:08, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > I am DETERMINED to get past their nonsense and access my account
> > > > information USING KONQUEROR DAMNIT!  So there.  It does still
> > > > happen, this nonsense, and spoofing a browser doesn't always
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > praedor
> > >
> > > oops forgot an example page
> > >
> > > http://supportwizard.com
> >
> > This works fine with firebird.
>
> yep and mozilla and links (graphical) and browsex
> but not in Konqueror. Oh and I did send a mistake. This one is
> perl cgi not asp.  I lost my asp link.
>
> James
>
> > eric
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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More messing around.  I have used mozilla to identify all the key javascript 
pages and entered them into the user agent box for konqueror, instructing 
konqueror to identify itself as mozilla 4.76 or 5.5.  I can now briefly get 
to the pages but shortly after they load, normally and without problems I 
might add, I get bumped over to the download page for IE or Netscape again.  
Progress, but still they are getting past my user agent ID in the end and 
kicking me out.  

I want to beat them.  Any pointers?

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 08:48 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call
> linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java
> or javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One error message I
> received when trying to bypass their filters for Netscape or IE indicated
> that they are using Apache Tomcat, hence they are not a doze shop (good for
> them).  At this point, I either assume that konqueror is STILL broken with
> regards to javascript (KDE 3.1.3) or they are simply specifically looking
> for either mozilla or IE and if detecting neither, produce the download
> page for either.
>
> I tried to reset my password/user ID on the site using konqueror and got
> this: ---
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 - /portal/jsp/portal.jsp
>
> description The requested resource (/portal/jsp/portal.jsp) is not
> available. ---
>
> praedor
>
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 02:44 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 15:08, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > > I am DETERMINED to get past their nonsense and access my account
> > > > > information USING KONQUEROR DAMNIT!  So there.  It does still
> > > > > happen, this nonsense, and spoofing a browser doesn't always
> > > > > work.
> > > > >
> > > > > praedor
> > > >
> > > > oops forgot an example page
> > > >
> > > > http://supportwizard.com
> > >
> > > This works fine with firebird.
> >
> > yep and mozilla and links (graphical) and browsex
> > but not in Konqueror. Oh and I did send a mistake. This one is
> > perl cgi not asp.  I lost my asp link.
> >
> > James
> >
> > > eric
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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Re: [expert] wav to mp3 enmasse?

2003-10-12 Thread Brian Parish
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 15:44, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:36:28 -0700
> Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > hell, this is a one-liner :-)
> > 
> > for i in `ls *.wav`; do lame -buncha -options $i; done
> 
> alias that sucker in your .bashrc like this:
> 
> function mp3enc() { for i in `ls *.wav`; do lame -buncha -options $i;
> done }
> 
> and in reverse:
> 
> function mp3dec() { for i in *.mp3; do lame --decode $i `basename $i
> .mp3`.wav; done; }
> 
> the only problem you might run into is if the filenames have spaces, so,
> do this first:
> 
> for i in *.mp3; do mv "$i" `echo $i | tr ' ' '_'`;done;

Being a total newb when it comes to shell programing, I found this to be
a great tip (having just spent considerable time writing a much longer
script to do the same thing *).

Is there an equally simple way to truncate file names to remove unwanted
characters from the end?  I of course would never dream of downloading
anything using gnutella, but should someone else do this and end up with
lots of files ending in ".OK", it would be nice to process them in a
similar way.  Just theoretically of course.

TIA
Brian

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 15.25 12/10/2003, you wrote:

Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
go.
And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
realistic as well.
A friend of mine told me that it's a fake, he heard it on IRC.
Do you think that a similar device would need DISK PARTITIONING???
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[expert] grep weirdness -- I MEAN IT!!

2003-10-12 Thread Pierre Fortin
I'm trying to nail down a situation where 9.2rc2 (haven't time to test
previous versions) CHANGES my /etc/fstab entry from /mnt/camera to
/mnt/hd, DELETES /mnt/camera, and ADDS /mnt/hd if it doesn't exist.

Can anyone tell me what they get when, as root, the following command is
entered:

  grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore | less

Hint1:  re-read the subject -- don't shoot the messenger...  I'm just
trying to determine if what I got was specific to my system, or
widespread...  

Hint2: make sure all is saved.



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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
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> Hash: SHA1
> 
> A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call 
> linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java or 
> javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One error message I 

Java server pages, served from a Java application platform (Tomcat in
this case). Try looking at the source of the pages that give you trouble
though, there might be JavaScript embedded or referenced which could
include browser detection code.

> received when trying to bypass their filters for Netscape or IE indicated 
> that they are using Apache Tomcat, hence they are not a doze shop (good for 
> them).  At this point, I either assume that konqueror is STILL broken with 
> regards to javascript (KDE 3.1.3) or they are simply specifically looking for 
> either mozilla or IE and if detecting neither, produce the download page for 
> either.
> 
> I tried to reset my password/user ID on the site using konqueror and got this:
> - ---
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 - /portal/jsp/portal.jsp
> 
> description The requested resource (/portal/jsp/portal.jsp) is not available.
> - ---
> 
> praedor
> 
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 02:44 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 15:08, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > > I am DETERMINED to get past their nonsense and access my account
> > > > > information USING KONQUEROR DAMNIT!  So there.  It does still
> > > > > happen, this nonsense, and spoofing a browser doesn't always
> > > > > work.
> > > > >
> > > > > praedor
> > > >
> > > > oops forgot an example page
> > > >
> > > > http://supportwizard.com
> > >
> > > This works fine with firebird.
> >
> > yep and mozilla and links (graphical) and browsex
> > but not in Konqueror. Oh and I did send a mistake. This one is
> > perl cgi not asp.  I lost my asp link.
> >
> > James
> >
> > > eric
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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> I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
> compara
> ble to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that 
> isn'
> t based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
> - --Richard Dawkins
> Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

2003-10-12 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 12 October 2003 08:19, Greg Meyer wrote:

> > 
> I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
> going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.
> 
> The balance of my plan is as follows:
> 
> 1) remove all plf and Texstar packages
> 
> 2) urpmi.removemedia -a
> 
> 3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror
> 
> 4) urpmi urpmi
> 
> 5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm
> 
> 6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there
> 
> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2
> 
> Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.
> 
Okay, I'm back and everything looks like it went okay.  I have a few little 
tweaks to do, but other than that, I guess I'm on 9.2 now.
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

There is a ref to a browser check script but I am not certain where its root 
lies, so I am not sure what webpage to pass a mozilla user agent id to:





  doBrowserCheck();


I have tried simply added the previous root URL and subdirectory to the 
browsercheck.js line (replacing the ../../) but it doesn't work.  I am 
assuming I am adding the wrong root or that this wouldn't work in any case 
because of the way it is called.

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:27 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:48, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call
> > linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java
> > or javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One error message I
>
> Java server pages, served from a Java application platform (Tomcat in
> this case). Try looking at the source of the pages that give you trouble
> though, there might be JavaScript embedded or referenced which could
> include browser detection code.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
compara
ble to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that 
isn'
t based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
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Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

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Re: [expert] grep weirdness -- I MEAN IT!!

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore   
Binary file /proc/kcore matches

Search the archives for hotplug, I helped someone track down how hot
plug identifies and mounts devices a while ago. It was pretty complex,
but all in script so theoretically parsable.

On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:18, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> I'm trying to nail down a situation where 9.2rc2 (haven't time to test
> previous versions) CHANGES my /etc/fstab entry from /mnt/camera to
> /mnt/hd, DELETES /mnt/camera, and ADDS /mnt/hd if it doesn't exist.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what they get when, as root, the following command is
> entered:
> 
>   grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore | less
> 
> Hint1:  re-read the subject -- don't shoot the messenger...  I'm just
> trying to determine if what I got was specific to my system, or
> widespread...  
> 
> Hint2: make sure all is saved.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] winnt/system32/cmd.exe replaced with 300meg movie

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:31, ed tharp wrote:
> I am considering sending every win box that is requesting
> winnt/system32/cmd.exe with an 300 meg avi, renamed cmd.exe, and stored
> in a folder off my Apache Document root named winnt/system32.
> 
> I am wondering about the drawbacks, other than the bandwidth waste and
> tying up my pipe.

bandwidth waste, and the risk that at some point the worm will be smart
enough to be doing redirection. The bandwidth usage will likely be
extreme. Have a look at my loopback solution:
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html
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Re: [expert] winnt/system32/cmd.exe replaced with 300meg movie

2003-10-12 Thread HaywireMac
On 12 Oct 2003 09:31:12 -0400
ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I am considering sending every win box that is requesting
> winnt/system32/cmd.exe with an 300 meg avi, renamed cmd.exe, and
> stored in a folder off my Apache Document root named winnt/system32.
> 
> I am wondering about the drawbacks, other than the bandwidth waste and
> tying up my pipe.

I recall someone posting about a better way of getting revenge, a
rewrite rule in your httpd.conf that sends the attacking machine into an
infinite loop and crashes it.

But I like your thinking, pure evil... ;-)

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Re: [expert] grep weirdness -- I MEAN IT!!

2003-10-12 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:33:37 -0700 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore   
> Binary file /proc/kcore matches

Interesting...  are you using 9.2rc2?  My system locked up tighter than
...  absolutely, totally, uninterruptably DEAD!  No
clock updates, nothing...

Did you have lots of swap in play?  I'm not sure I wanna repeat it; but I
do normally have LOTS of stuff running...


> Search the archives for hotplug, I helped someone track down how hot
> plug identifies and mounts devices a while ago. It was pretty complex,
> but all in script so theoretically parsable.
> 
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:18, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > I'm trying to nail down a situation where 9.2rc2 (haven't time to test
> > previous versions) CHANGES my /etc/fstab entry from /mnt/camera to
> > /mnt/hd, DELETES /mnt/camera, and ADDS /mnt/hd if it doesn't exist.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what they get when, as root, the following command
> > is entered:
> > 
> >   grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore | less
> > 
> > Hint1:  re-read the subject -- don't shoot the messenger...  I'm just
> > trying to determine if what I got was specific to my system, or
> > widespread...  
> > 
> > Hint2: make sure all is saved.

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
> > is that for real? the barbie stuff?

> Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version
> in which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)

LOL!

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Re: [expert] winnt/system32/cmd.exe replaced with 300meg movie

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 10:34, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:31, ed tharp wrote:
> > I am considering sending every win box that is requesting
> > winnt/system32/cmd.exe with an 300 meg avi, renamed cmd.exe, and stored
> > in a folder off my Apache Document root named winnt/system32.
> > 
> > I am wondering about the drawbacks, other than the bandwidth waste and
> > tying up my pipe.
> 
> bandwidth waste, and the risk that at some point the worm will be smart
> enough to be doing redirection. The bandwidth usage will likely be
> extreme. Have a look at my loopback solution:
> http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html

I like that much better thank you, 

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 05:07 am, James wrote:
> Ok.. thank you all for your help.  I now have ProFTPD installed.  Though,
> I still don't know what to do to get it working.  I typed "service proftpd
> start" and it started ok.
>
> The config is the original base set up for anonymous login.  I don't want
> that.  I just want to allow certain individuals, such as myself, ftp
> access.
>
> All of the previous suggestions made here on this mail list have been
> lost.  My hard drive crashed a few days ago, and I have lost everything
> not saved on CD, including emails.
>
> Anyway, I have ProFTPD running, I just need a good configuration file to
> allow specific users.

I can't offer any help with Proftpd, I always had trouble getting that one 
configured and working correctly, along with some concerns about security 
since a lot of my reading pointed out some well known security implications 
with that ftp daemon.

If you are interested in installing pure-ftpd and getting it to work, I can 
send you a configuration file that with some slight alterations will allow 
you to grant anyone with a userid on your system access to ftp, or to easily 
add some additional users that only have ftp access.

You can find more information about pure-ftpd at:  http://www.pureftpd.org/

They do have RPM's for that ftp server with Mandrake Linux so you won't have 
to compile or search them down.

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Re: [expert] grep weirdness -- I MEAN IT!!

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:46, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:33:37 -0700 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore   
> > Binary file /proc/kcore matches
> 
> Interesting...  are you using 9.2rc2?  My system locked up tighter than
> ...  absolutely, totally, uninterruptably DEAD!  No
> clock updates, nothing...

yeah, though I do keep it updated.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem:   371360 10  0 40   
146
-/+ buffers/cache:174196
Swap:  753 57695


> 
> Did you have lots of swap in play?  I'm not sure I wanna repeat it; but I
> do normally have LOTS of stuff running...
> 
> 
> > Search the archives for hotplug, I helped someone track down how hot
> > plug identifies and mounts devices a while ago. It was pretty complex,
> > but all in script so theoretically parsable.
> > 
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:18, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > > I'm trying to nail down a situation where 9.2rc2 (haven't time to test
> > > previous versions) CHANGES my /etc/fstab entry from /mnt/camera to
> > > /mnt/hd, DELETES /mnt/camera, and ADDS /mnt/hd if it doesn't exist.
> > > 
> > > Can anyone tell me what they get when, as root, the following command
> > > is entered:
> > > 
> > >   grep set_removable_mntpoints /proc/kcore | less
> > > 
> > > Hint1:  re-read the subject -- don't shoot the messenger...  I'm just
> > > trying to determine if what I got was specific to my system, or
> > > widespread...  
> > > 
> > > Hint2: make sure all is saved.
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] winnt/system32/cmd.exe replaced with 300meg movie

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 08:08, ed tharp wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 10:34, Jack Coates wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:31, ed tharp wrote:
> > > I am considering sending every win box that is requesting
> > > winnt/system32/cmd.exe with an 300 meg avi, renamed cmd.exe, and stored
> > > in a folder off my Apache Document root named winnt/system32.
> > > 
> > > I am wondering about the drawbacks, other than the bandwidth waste and
> > > tying up my pipe.
> > 
> > bandwidth waste, and the risk that at some point the worm will be smart
> > enough to be doing redirection. The bandwidth usage will likely be
> > extreme. Have a look at my loopback solution:
> > http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html
> 
> I like that much better thank you, 

Yeah, it's pretty elegant if I do say so myself. I remember when I
tested it and found that it worked I started literally chortling like a
madman. My wife had probably already given up on any idea of my sanity
by then, but I still got The Look :-)
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
Bad form, bad form... tsk. You might get lucky with google: try
searching for

browsercheck.js site:your.credit.union

If you can get the browsercheck, I'll help you show them how to make it
only match IE vs. Other. It's probably two hundred lines long and
testing for Netscape 3 and other anachronistic crap.

Jack

On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:34, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> There is a ref to a browser check script but I am not certain where its root 
> lies, so I am not sure what webpage to pass a mozilla user agent id to:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   doBrowserCheck();
> 
> 
> I have tried simply added the previous root URL and subdirectory to the 
> browsercheck.js line (replacing the ../../) but it doesn't work.  I am 
> assuming I am adding the wrong root or that this wouldn't work in any case 
> because of the way it is called.
> 
> praedor
> 
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:27 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:48, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call
> > > linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java
> > > or javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One error message I
> >
> > Java server pages, served from a Java application platform (Tomcat in
> > this case). Try looking at the source of the pages that give you trouble
> > though, there might be JavaScript embedded or referenced which could
> > include browser detection code.
> 
> - -- 
> I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
> compara
> ble to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that 
> isn'
> t based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
> - --Richard Dawkins
> Key fingerprint = D6F9 8682 2257 2871 10C6  DB92 6F50 8BBA B100 EB15
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)
> 
> iD8DBQE/iWaRb1CLurEA6xURAkHBAJ0dmFbiCSg3FH//k88QPo6NiqaTgwCfYf65
> YZWNtQedtRdBex0JCk6CYPc=
> =uj78
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] wav to mp3 enmasse?

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:27, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 15:44, HaywireMac wrote:
> > On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:36:28 -0700
> > Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > 
> > > hell, this is a one-liner :-)
> > > 
> > > for i in `ls *.wav`; do lame -buncha -options $i; done
> > 
> > alias that sucker in your .bashrc like this:
> > 
> > function mp3enc() { for i in `ls *.wav`; do lame -buncha -options $i;
> > done }
> > 
> > and in reverse:
> > 
> > function mp3dec() { for i in *.mp3; do lame --decode $i `basename $i
> > .mp3`.wav; done; }
> > 
> > the only problem you might run into is if the filenames have spaces, so,
> > do this first:
> > 
> > for i in *.mp3; do mv "$i" `echo $i | tr ' ' '_'`;done;
> 
> Being a total newb when it comes to shell programing, I found this to be
> a great tip (having just spent considerable time writing a much longer
> script to do the same thing *).
> 
> Is there an equally simple way to truncate file names to remove unwanted
> characters from the end?  I of course would never dream of downloading
> anything using gnutella, but should someone else do this and end up with
> lots of files ending in ".OK", it would be nice to process them in a
> similar way.  Just theoretically of course.
> 
> TIA
> Brian
> 
> * It didn't work either!
> 

Try giving tr nothing as a second option, or use sed (challenging,
better get an O'Reilly book).

Here's one that might help as an example:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ cat bin/2lower.sh 
#!/bin/sh
for i in *
  do
   j=`echo $i | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'`
   mv $i $j
done

It comes in handy when installing Quake 2 maps that were built on
Winders :-)
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

2003-10-12 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:19:06 -0400
Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

He has a few things already, check his website, mostly icons and themes.  He
stated in Cooker mail list that he would setup a hdlist.cz as soon as 9.2 is
officially released.

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[expert] Veritas Netbackup

2003-10-12 Thread Michael Noble
I have Veritas Netbackup (master is a SUN Box) and am trying to
get it to backup a Mandrake 9.0 client.  Does anybody have any
experience with this?  The master (SUN) tries to install the
client software on the Mandrake box, but get permission denied.
I have tried adding the master server to /.rhosts /root/.rhosts
and /etc/hosts.equiv and it still does not allow it.
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Re: [expert] Getting a 100% linux compatible scanner

2003-10-12 Thread Joeb
HaywireMac wrote:

On 11 Oct 2003 13:13:45 +0200
diego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
 

Can anyone recommend a good linux compatible scanner
   

Every HP model *except* the 2300C should work just fine.

Guess which model *I* have ;-)

 



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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Thanks, but that didn't work.  I did manage to download their browsercheck.js 
file however.  Google couldn't find it and I couldn't "load" it in konqueror.  
I ended up simply trying to load 
https://homebanking.purdueefcu.com/homebanking/js/browsercheck.js and 
konqueror came back with the dialog box asking if I wanted to save it or open 
it.  Saving it I now have their javascript file on hand.  I have attached it 
for general perusal and comment.


On Sunday 12 October 2003 10:50 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> Bad form, bad form... tsk. You might get lucky with google: try
> searching for
>
> browsercheck.js site:your.credit.union
>
> If you can get the browsercheck, I'll help you show them how to make it
> only match IE vs. Other. It's probably two hundred lines long and
> testing for Netscape 3 and other anachronistic crap.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 07:34, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > There is a ref to a browser check script but I am not certain where its
> > root lies, so I am not sure what webpage to pass a mozilla user agent id
> > to:
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> >   doBrowserCheck();
> > 
> >
> > I have tried simply added the previous root URL and subdirectory to the
> > browsercheck.js line (replacing the ../../) but it doesn't work.  I am
> > assuming I am adding the wrong root or that this wouldn't work in any
> > case because of the way it is called.
> >
> > praedor
> >
> > On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:27 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:48, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would
> > > > call linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system
> > > > using java or javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?).  One
> > > > error message I
> > >
> > > Java server pages, served from a Java application platform (Tomcat in
> > > this case). Try looking at the source of the pages that give you
> > > trouble though, there might be JavaScript embedded or referenced which
> > > could include browser detection code.
> >
> > - --
> > I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
> > compara
> > ble to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief
> > that isn'
> > t based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
> > - --Richard Dawkins
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> >
> > __
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evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. 
Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal 
vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] Audigy 2 Support

2003-10-12 Thread J. Kelley Jernigan
I'm still around. Nothing has worked.

It looks like it may be the hardware as was posted in that bugzilla
repost.

JKJ

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 04:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 11:25 pm, J. Kelley Jernigan wrote:
> > P.S.
> >
> > I tried changing my sound configuration in MDK control center from
> > Audigy to snd-emu10k1.
> >
> > The problem is how do I save this change? If I go to any other part
> > of NDK Control it tell me the changed will not be saved and when I
> > click on "Configure Module" it crashes Control Center.
> >
> That must be a bug - it happened to me too.  But the other button, Run 
> Config Tool works fine - it runs DrakSound.  I changed it there, OK, 
> and so on to back out from MCC gracefully - if you short-cut at any 
> stage it doesn't save.  I think that the time I lost my setting was 
> when I clicked on another module in MCC without quitting the current 
> module.  HTH
> 
> Anne
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Sorry...I suppose I shouldn't have attached anything.  

On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:01 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> Thanks, but that didn't work.  I did manage to download their
> browsercheck.js file however.  Google couldn't find it and I couldn't
> "load" it in konqueror. I ended up simply trying to load
> https://homebanking.purdueefcu.com/homebanking/js/browsercheck.js and
> konqueror came back with the dialog box asking if I wanted to save it or
> open it.  Saving it I now have their javascript file on hand.  I have
> attached it for general perusal and comment.
[...]
- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great 
evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. 
Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal 
vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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[expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete anything

2003-10-12 Thread dfox
This used to work before, but it's been a very long time.

Assume I don't move to trash, and confirm delete by using shift-delete 
rather than the regular delete - that key combination has shifted over 
the past few releases of Kmail anyhow. But anyway, it's a real delete.

Now back in the old days, Kmail used to actually delete mails from the 
various folders when you issued "Compact". This hasn't happened for a 
very long time. Despite expiring and deleting articles from Inbox, my 
inbox was growing ever larger - approaching several hundred megabytes.

I finally decided I'd convert to Maildir format, but I couldn't change 
that on Inbox, so (for now) I've created a "temp" folder containing all 
the messages that were in inbox (about 150 megs, as opposed to nearly 
400) and moved all of inbox over to temp. I then emptied inbox. Now I've 
been moving the inbox stuff over to temp on a regular basis, and inbox is 
beginning to grow again. With all the spam/virus stuff out there 
(fortunately I can prescreen much of that stuff), inbox is up to 12 
megabytes or so. temp/cur hasn't seem to have shrunk, and I see some 
largish posts in there which seem that they could be previously deleted 
mails. 

Without killing my existing mails and starting over, what should I do? I 
don't think removing and recreating inbox is an option but that's 
probably the only way to make it into a Maildir format, which is probably 
going to make actual deletion easier. 



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Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete anything

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Which version of kmail are you using?  I use v1.5 with KDE 3.1.3 and have no 
problems.  If I use the keyboard delete key, it places the selected mail into 
the trash folder.  If I use the X icon (right next to the trashcan icon in 
the toolbar for kmail) it eliminates the message completely rather than 
passing it to trash.  To empty the trash and eliminate any messages passed 
there by filters or whatnot, I right click on the trash folder and select 
"empty trash".  

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:10 pm, dfox wrote:
> This used to work before, but it's been a very long time.
>
> Assume I don't move to trash, and confirm delete by using shift-delete
> rather than the regular delete - that key combination has shifted over
> the past few releases of Kmail anyhow. But anyway, it's a real delete.
>
> Now back in the old days, Kmail used to actually delete mails from the
> various folders when you issued "Compact". This hasn't happened for a
> very long time. Despite expiring and deleting articles from Inbox, my
> inbox was growing ever larger - approaching several hundred megabytes.
>
> I finally decided I'd convert to Maildir format, but I couldn't change
> that on Inbox, so (for now) I've created a "temp" folder containing all
> the messages that were in inbox (about 150 megs, as opposed to nearly
> 400) and moved all of inbox over to temp. I then emptied inbox. Now I've
> been moving the inbox stuff over to temp on a regular basis, and inbox is
> beginning to grow again. With all the spam/virus stuff out there
> (fortunately I can prescreen much of that stuff), inbox is up to 12
> megabytes or so. temp/cur hasn't seem to have shrunk, and I see some
> largish posts in there which seem that they could be previously deleted
> mails.
>
> Without killing my existing mails and starting over, what should I do? I
> don't think removing and recreating inbox is an option but that's
> probably the only way to make it into a Maildir format, which is probably
> going to make actual deletion easier.

- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great 
evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. 
Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal 
vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete anything

2003-10-12 Thread dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete 
anything
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>Which version of kmail are you using?  I use v1.5 with KDE 3.1.3 and
> have no problems.  If I use the keyboard delete key, it places the
> selected mail into the trash folder.  If I use the X icon (right next

I'm using the same version as yours. But haven't you noticed that the 
messages in inbox don't ever get deleted? Is your inbox (assuming of 
course you keep the messsages there) still growing ever larger if you 
delete the messages? The messages are gone in the sense they never show 
up in kmail, but the disk space is still being consumed by them. At least 
this is still true with respect to inbox, and it's too soon to tell if it 
is the case with my temp folder. even trash will grow periodically if i 
don't delete the folder and recreate it periodically.

I've been using the same mail folders more or less since I first used kde 
some several years ago now. I think that there might have been folder 
corruption that happened a few times over the years, but that doesn't 
explain the behavior on a newly created folder.


> to the trashcan icon in the toolbar for kmail) it eliminates the
> message completely rather than passing it to trash.  To empty the trash
> and eliminate any messages passed there by filters or whatnot, I right
> click on the trash folder and select "empty trash".
>
>praedor
>
>On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:10 pm, dfox wrote:
>> This used to work before, but it's been a very long time.
>>
>> Assume I don't move to trash, and confirm delete by using shift-delete
>> rather than the regular delete - that key combination has shifted over
>> the past few releases of Kmail anyhow. But anyway, it's a real delete.
>>
>> Now back in the old days, Kmail used to actually delete mails from the
>> various folders when you issued "Compact". This hasn't happened for a
>> very long time. Despite expiring and deleting articles from Inbox, my
>> inbox was growing ever larger - approaching several hundred megabytes.
>>
>> I finally decided I'd convert to Maildir format, but I couldn't change
>> that on Inbox, so (for now) I've created a "temp" folder containing
>> all the messages that were in inbox (about 150 megs, as opposed to
>> nearly 400) and moved all of inbox over to temp. I then emptied inbox.
>> Now I've been moving the inbox stuff over to temp on a regular basis,
>> and inbox is beginning to grow again. With all the spam/virus stuff
>> out there (fortunately I can prescreen much of that stuff), inbox is
>> up to 12 megabytes or so. temp/cur hasn't seem to have shrunk, and I
>> see some largish posts in there which seem that they could be
>> previously deleted mails.
>>
>> Without killing my existing mails and starting over, what should I do?
>> I don't think removing and recreating inbox is an option but that's
>> probably the only way to make it into a Maildir format, which is
>> probably going to make actual deletion easier.
>
>- --
>I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great
>evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate.
>Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal
>vice of any religion.
>- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete anything

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Hmmm.  I haven't noticed.  I have a bunch of subfolders where the bulk of my 
messages are filtered into with only those not specifically filtered to a 
specific folder being kept in the inbox.  I also have 3 gigs of space for my 
/home directory so I haven't noticed any major change there.  

I will watch if for a while to see but at this point, the only thing I see in 
my inbox (whether I do an "ls -l Mail/inbox/cur" or look at my inbox contents 
in kmail) are the messages I have elected to keep.  It may take some time for 
me to notice a problem with disk space consumption due to kmail, however, 
given that I have so much to play with.  

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:35 pm, dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete
> anything
>
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >Which version of kmail are you using?  I use v1.5 with KDE 3.1.3 and
> > have no problems.  If I use the keyboard delete key, it places the
> > selected mail into the trash folder.  If I use the X icon (right next
>
> I'm using the same version as yours. But haven't you noticed that the
> messages in inbox don't ever get deleted? Is your inbox (assuming of
> course you keep the messsages there) still growing ever larger if you
> delete the messages? The messages are gone in the sense they never show
> up in kmail, but the disk space is still being consumed by them. At least
> this is still true with respect to inbox, and it's too soon to tell if it
> is the case with my temp folder. even trash will grow periodically if i
> don't delete the folder and recreate it periodically.
[...]
- -- 
I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great 
evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. 
Faith, being belief that isn't based on evidence, is the principal 
vice of any religion.
- --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete anything

2003-10-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 12 October 2003 04:35 pm, dfox wrote:
> Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KMail doesn't seem to delete
> anything
>
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >Which version of kmail are you using?  I use v1.5 with KDE 3.1.3 and
> > have no problems.  If I use the keyboard delete key, it places the
> > selected mail into the trash folder.  If I use the X icon (right next
>
> I'm using the same version as yours. But haven't you noticed that the
> messages in inbox don't ever get deleted? Is your inbox (assuming of
> course you keep the messsages there) still growing ever larger if you
> delete the messages? The messages are gone in the sense they never show
> up in kmail, but the disk space is still being consumed by them. At least
> this is still true with respect to inbox, and it's too soon to tell if it
> is the case with my temp folder. even trash will grow periodically if i
> don't delete the folder and recreate it periodically.

This is configurable behavior.  Go to Settings, Configure Kmail and click on 
the Folders tab.  You will see an entry for "On Program Exit perform"  and 
there is a check box next to empty trash.  If you check that box then the 
trash will be emptied each time you exit Kmail.  If you don't, you must 
manually empty the trash by right-clicking on the trash folder and choosing 
empty.

Kmail does not automatically delete your trash, just in case you want to 
recover a message that you trashed by mistake.  It does allow you to 
automagically delete it by choosing to override the default behavior in the 
settings.
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 05:19, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 21:30, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Ok,
> > 
> > I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> > 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> > 
> > urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> > 
> > urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> > 
> > urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> > and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> > changes to accompany it as well.) 
> > 
> > urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> > 
> > why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> > place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> > etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> > 
> > urpmi kernel.
> > 
> I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
> going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.
> 
> The balance of my plan is as follows:
> 
> 1) remove all plf and Texstar packages

I did it by leaving them in.  Total of 4 pkgs had conflicts.  I then did
a rpm -Uvh --force on those and it was 100% successful. BTW there are
plf cooker rpms and you'll want those since they upgrade the plf apps
you already have.  I've done it on 3 boxes so far without any real
problems (a couple of .rpmnew files to move and a reboot, since I did
the kernel last.)
> 
> 2) urpmi.removemedia -a
> 
> 3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror

add contrib-cooker from the same server and plf's cooker mirror as well
as updates for 9.2 (cooker is frozen but a security hole is ssl was
fixed.)
> 
> 4) urpmi urpmi
> 
> 5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm

Don't do the --auto.  The reason is that some of the deps are met by 2
or 3 rpms and you will want to chose the one that fits your box the
best. 
> 
> 6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there

If you don't remove it and add the source first... no problem.  You'll
already have it.

> 
> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

He's already started *grin*.  
> 
> Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.

Since you already have the kernel you'll only need to restart X.

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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:48, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> A little checking and I see that my credit union isn't what I would call 
> linux-unfriendly, just konqueror unfriendly.  The login system using java or 
> javascript (*.jsp...is that java or javascript?). 

 a convoluted attempt to make java do php *grin*

>  One error message I 
> received when trying to bypass their filters for Netscape or IE indicated 
> that they are using Apache Tomcat,

Yep needed for jsp.

>  hence they are not a doze shop (good for 
> them).  At this point, I either assume that konqueror is STILL broken with 
> regards to javascript (KDE 3.1.3) or they are simply specifically looking for 
> either mozilla or IE and if detecting neither, produce the download page for 
> either.

Konq still isn't perfect in jscript.  
> 
> I tried to reset my password/user ID on the site using konqueror and got this:
> - ---
> Apache Tomcat/4.0.6 - HTTP Status 404 - /portal/jsp/portal.jsp
> 
> description The requested resource (/portal/jsp/portal.jsp) is not available.
> - ---
> 
> praedor
> 
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 02:44 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 15:08, Eric Huff wrote:
> > > > > I am DETERMINED to get past their nonsense and access my account
> > > > > information USING KONQUEROR DAMNIT!  So there.  It does still
> > > > > happen, this nonsense, and spoofing a browser doesn't always
> > > > > work.
> > > > >
> > > > > praedor
> > > >
> > > > oops forgot an example page
> > > >
> > > > http://supportwizard.com
> > >
> > > This works fine with firebird.
> >
> > yep and mozilla and links (graphical) and browsex
> > but not in Konqueror. Oh and I did send a mistake. This one is
> > perl cgi not asp.  I lost my asp link.
> >
> > James
> >
> > > eric
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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> 
> - -- 
> I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, 
> compara
> ble to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. Faith, being belief that 
> isn'
> t based on evidence, is the principal vice of any religion.
> - --Richard Dawkins
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 05:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:
> 
> > > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > > 
> > > 1. Try a text installation
> > > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > > 
> > imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> > I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 
> 
> He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
> everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
> Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).

Proves he knows how to read config files... now teach him why it
shouldn't be html *grin*
> 
> Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)


> 
> Anyhow, Linux is spreading!
> 
> BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> Linux at the end of this year:
> http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm

No problem.  The more the merrier. 
> 
> wobo
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:25, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Glen Kjærulff schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:37:55 +0200:
> 
> > no its a joke, read it again.
> 
> [quote]
> "Most girls up through adult women become frightened and confused, often
> hysterical when presented with a traditional command prompt," Cesterino
> explained.
> [unquote]
> 
> Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
> experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
> go.
> 
> And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
> Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
> realistic as well.
> 
> wobo


Wobo,

   A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby Boomers
(the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by technology.  The
childeren of Baby Boomers and the parents of Baby Boomers are the most
proficient because they aren't afraid of doing something wrong.  They
know that in the end a re-install or a reset will fix everything. 
Nothing really breaks. 

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:31, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:25, ed tharp wrote:
> > > 
> > > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > > Linux at the end of this year:
> > > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> > 
> Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version in
> which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 02:07, James wrote:
> Ok.. thank you all for your help.  I now have ProFTPD installed.  Though,
> I still don't know what to do to get it working.  I typed "service proftpd
> start" and it started ok.
> 
> The config is the original base set up for anonymous login.  I don't want
> that.  I just want to allow certain individuals, such as myself, ftp
> access.
> 
> All of the previous suggestions made here on this mail list have been
> lost.  My hard drive crashed a few days ago, and I have lost everything
> not saved on CD, including emails.

rpm -e proftpd-anonymous and anon ftp will disapear.  But others like
real users will still be able to work.

> 
> Anyway, I have ProFTPD running, I just need a good configuration file to
> allow specific users.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> james
> 
> 
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[expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Blomquist
Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server 
I was planning on rebuilding.

So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC 
VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems.

Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger. 
The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great.

I have been reading "Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide" and 
he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he 
goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and 
allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling 
the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is 
part of some UNIXes.

Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was 
able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model 
number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports 
autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be 
detected and run?

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Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:55 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little 
server 
> I was planning on rebuilding.
> 
> So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box 
(FIC 
> VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems.
> 
> Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no 
bigger. 
> The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great.
> 
> I have been reading "Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence 
Guide" and 
> he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then 
he 
> goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the 
BIOS and 
> allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and 
handling 
> the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation 
is 
> part of some UNIXes.
> 
> Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I 
was 
> able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the 
disk model 
> number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports 
> autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive 
could be 
> detected and run?
> 
I believe the answer is yes, that the Linux kernel will be able to 
address the entire drive.  You can test this simply by trying it 
though, I don't think you have anything to lose.
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Re: [expert] Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Felix Miata
Rob Blomquist wrote:
 
> Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server
> I was planning on rebuilding.

What brand and model?
 
> So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC
> VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems.
 
> Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger.
> The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great.

You've accounted for two drives. What is the 3rd?
 
> I have been reading "Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide" and
> he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he
> goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and
> allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling
> the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is
> part of some UNIXes.
 
> Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was
> able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model
> number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports
> autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be
> detected and run?

All that BIOS translation gibberish is irrelevant if you DO NOT need to
boot from the device. If this is the case, simply set the BIOS to NONE
for the device. Then Linux will pick it up correctly, unassisted by any
deficiencies that may be present in the BIOS.

If you DO need to boot from the device, then both the BIOS must be
capable of accessing a drive of the desired size, and the BIOS must be
correctly set to access the device. The FIC-503+ has an Award BIOS. For
an 80GB device, you CANNOT use the BIOS Autodetection fuction that is a
separate main menu option with most Socket 7 Award BIOS motherboards.
The correct way to configure is to set the options in the first menu
screen to AUTO and AUTO for the device. If your BIOS is too old it may
not be capable of recognizing a drive larger than 32GB without a BIOS
upgrade. BIOS upgrades for the 503+ are available at
http://www.fic.com.tw/support/motherboard/bios.aspx?model_id=19. 

A third option is to use the device's size limitation jumper to limit
its logical size to 32GB. Some drives can have this limit set via a
drive maker's utility software instead of a jumper. My experience with
32GB drive limits is that usually when set, the limit is absolute. In
limited cases, I've seen the device driver ignore the limitation setting
and be able to access the full drive size. In either case, the
translation is the same and of no concern.
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Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I don't really know javascript but my perusal of the code suggests that it is 
specifically setup to ignore browser spoofing and thus eliminate opera and 
any other browser that is doing a spoof.  Thing is, I kept getting closer and 
closer to getting in with konqueror, to the point that the login page would 
appear perfectly fine, as would other "protected" pages like their 
password/login change page but shortly after it loaded, boop!, the 
browsercheck.js script would catch me out and dump me to the download page.

The script is somewhat stock with comments indicating that it is a simple 
comment out procedure to allow for spoofed browsers.  In any case, it is 
pointless and ridiculous.  All the need to do if they are so concerned about 
it is to add a bypass button and allow the client to make a go at it 
regardless.  It will either work or it wont, then they may need to 
download/use mozilla or IE...but not before.  It seems patently indefensible 
and unfair to out-and-out ban opera, safari, konqueror, etc, as a matter of 
policy.  It most certainly isn't a security problem as IE certainly isn't 
more secure than opera, etc.  

Now that I know a little more about their check, I can try to ask that they 
allow spoofing.  It's not like they have to recode the whole script.

praedor

On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:09 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> Sorry...I suppose I shouldn't have attached anything.
>
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 03:01 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > Thanks, but that didn't work.  I did manage to download their
> > browsercheck.js file however.  Google couldn't find it and I couldn't
> > "load" it in konqueror. I ended up simply trying to load
> > https://homebanking.purdueefcu.com/homebanking/js/browsercheck.js and
> > konqueror came back with the dialog box asking if I wanted to save it or
> > open it.  Saving it I now have their javascript file on hand.  I have
> > attached it for general perusal and comment.
>
> [...]

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Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 19:26, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:55 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little 
> server 
> > I was planning on rebuilding.
> > 
> > So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box 
> (FIC 
> > VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems.
> > 
> > Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no 
> bigger. 
> > The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great.
> > 
> > I have been reading "Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence 
> Guide" and 
> > he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then 
> he 
> > goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the 
> BIOS and 
> > allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and 
> handling 
> > the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation 
> is 
> > part of some UNIXes.
> > 
> > Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I 
> was 
> > able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the 
> disk model 
> > number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports 
> > autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive 
> could be 
> > detected and run?
> > 
> I believe the answer is yes, that the Linux kernel will be able to 
> address the entire drive.  You can test this simply by trying it 
> though, I don't think you have anything to lose.

Shortcut... download Morphix (a mini knoppix) or the lnxBBC distro.  put
it on a CD and boot from it with the drive in the box.  Then see what
Linux sees as far as drive size etc goes.  This way you know before you
go.  Second.  Update the BIOS I'm using some ASUS K-7 mobo's here and
the award bios update was worth it.

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread Dan Gordon
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:26:23 -0400
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> If you are interested in installing pure-ftpd and getting it to work,
> I can send you a configuration file that with some slight alterations
> will allow you to grant anyone with a userid on your system access to
> ftp, or to easily add some additional users that only have ftp access.
> 
> You can find more information about pure-ftpd at: 
> http://www.pureftpd.org/
> 
> They do have RPM's for that ftp server with Mandrake Linux so you
> won't have to compile or search them down.
> 

This interests me Bryan, it sounds like what im looking for.  Could i
have a look at the config file you mentioned?  Also have you looked at
kcmpureftpd ? is it worth trying ?

Regards,
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0700:

>  A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby
>  Boomers (the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by 
>  technology. 

Hmm, that counts me in (born 1946). So that's why I never curse at my
computer. It's sheer fear of what it could do to me in my sleep!

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:51:28 -0700:

> Can you imagine a blue screen of death in the SouthPark edition *grin*

Or a help text from Kenny?
Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!

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[expert] Crompressed disk image or doublespare like for Linux

2003-10-12 Thread Mark Williamson
Hi All,

Just wondering if there is a hard drive, of better still, a directory
compression scheme, that can be mounted, something like the old dos
double space..

I know there is cloop kernel module but is there anything else out
there.

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Re: [expert] Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Blomquist
The box is running RH 7.1, so you can see that its been up for awhile.

The drives on the box are an 850 Mb drive, Make and Model Unknown, a Maxtor 15 
Gb disk, and a CD-ROM.

The 850 is the bootable disk containing the OS, the other 2 drives are mounted 
to that disk, so the 80 Gb would not have to be booted.

I am currently uploading Knoppix (why did I ever delete that iso?), and I will 
try running it and see what happens if the BIOS is set to not show the drive.

I did suffer for awhile with the disk not allowing it to show the 15Gb that is 
plugged into the same IDE cable. Its like the 80 Gb gets in the way of the 15 
Gb during the BIOS addressing.

Maybe I should let autotranslation attempt to find and use both disks?

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Re: [expert] Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Felix Miata
Rob Blomquist wrote:
 
> The box is running RH 7.1, so you can see that its been up for awhile.
 
> The drives on the box are an 850 Mb drive, Make and Model Unknown, a Maxtor 15
> Gb disk, and a CD-ROM.
 
> The 850 is the bootable disk containing the OS, the other 2 drives are mounted
> to that disk, so the 80 Gb would not have to be booted.
 
> I am currently uploading Knoppix (why did I ever delete that iso?), and I will
> try running it and see what happens if the BIOS is set to not show the drive.

Any modern Linux will see 850MB, 15GB, & 80GB drives as long as the
cabling and jumpers are correct.
 
> I did suffer for awhile with the disk not allowing it to show the 15Gb that is
> plugged into the same IDE cable. Its like the 80 Gb gets in the way of the 15
> Gb during the BIOS addressing.

The drive controller on the smaller drives may not be adept at correctly
managing the 80. IOW, don't use one of the smaller drives as a master to
the 80. Make the 80 the secondary master.
 
> Maybe I should let autotranslation attempt to find and use both disks?

That's what happens when the BIOS is set to NONE for a drive that is
present and properly jumpered and cabled.
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Re: [expert] Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread alan
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Felix Miata wrote:

> Rob Blomquist wrote:
>  
> > The box is running RH 7.1, so you can see that its been up for awhile.
>  
> > The drives on the box are an 850 Mb drive, Make and Model Unknown, a Maxtor 15
> > Gb disk, and a CD-ROM.
>  
> > The 850 is the bootable disk containing the OS, the other 2 drives are mounted
> > to that disk, so the 80 Gb would not have to be booted.
>  
> > I am currently uploading Knoppix (why did I ever delete that iso?), and I will
> > try running it and see what happens if the BIOS is set to not show the drive.
> 
> Any modern Linux will see 850MB, 15GB, & 80GB drives as long as the
> cabling and jumpers are correct.

But it may not be able to boot it if it is the drive with /boot on it and 
/boot is past where the motherboard can see.

I solved the problem by buying a Promise IDE-133 controller.  It has its 
own bios for the drives.  A good way to bypass flaky ide controllers.

They are about $50 or so from Office Despot.  They are near the hard 
drive.  I seem to remember them in a Western Digital box.


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Re[2]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Praedor,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 7:41:58 PM, you wrote:

PA> It seems patently indefensible and unfair to out-and-out ban
PA> opera, safari, konqueror, etc, as a matter of  policy.  It most
PA> certainly isn't a security problem as IE certainly isn't  more
PA> secure than opera, etc.

I've gone round and round with several companies on this issue (I use
Opera), and the problem seems to be management: (1) "the budget is
VERY tight", and (2) "it better look good, or you're toast". The more
honest ones have admitted they can't justify developing for more than
IE, given the huge REPORTED market share. With so many people using
spoofing, it just makes the market share look even bigger than it is.
We can't win for loosing.

IMHO, only a very large number of complaints everywhere will begin to
put a dent in this.

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
> The more honest ones have admitted they can't justify
> developing for more than IE, given the huge REPORTED market share.
> With so many people using spoofing, it just makes the market share
> look even bigger than it is. We can't win for loosing.

That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for development.
 We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non IE browsers. 
It would mean *less* work and less code if they didn't put it in to
begin with.

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Re[4]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread rikona
Hello Eric,

Sunday, October 12, 2003, 9:40:03 PM, you wrote:

EH> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for
EH> development.  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non
EH> IE browsers.  It would mean *less* work and less code if they
EH> didn't put it in to begin with.

I think it would be more work. They'd have to test it with other
browsers, and since different ones DO act differently, they'd have to
develop code to work in all of them. It seems to be easier (= cheaper)
to just put in a check and ask users to use IE.

Many times one can view the code from a page and see where to go
anyway, but when you do, it doesn't work right. We need to let them
know they should code for other browsers.

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Re: [expert] Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Felix Miata
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Felix Miata wrote:
 
"Any modern Linux will see 850MB, 15GB, & 80GB drives as long as the
cabling and jumpers are correct."

Later, Rob Blomquist wrote:

"The 850 is the bootable disk containing the OS, the other 2 drives are
mounted
to that disk, so the 80 Gb would not have to be booted."

After which, alan wrote:
 
"But it may not be able to boot it if it is the drive with /boot on it
and
/boot is past where the motherboard can see."

Apparently alan missed the begining of the thread, where in response to
Rob Blomquist's original question:

Felix Miata wrote:

"All that BIOS translation gibberish is irrelevant if you DO NOT need to
boot from the device. If this is the case, simply set the BIOS to NONE
for the device. Then Linux will pick it up correctly, unassisted by any
deficiencies that may be present in the BIOS."

Now what all the above means is the demarcation line beyond which
booting is not possible is irrelevant to any drive set to NONE in the
BIOS. The OP is booting from an 850MB drive, not the drives the BIOS
doesn't understand. Since the boot loader IS where the BIOS can find it
(the box is running RH 7.1, though it doesn't see the whole 80GB), the
BIOS does initiate startup from the visible /boot (on the 850MB), after
which Linux takes over (any demarcation line is irrelevant).
 
> I solved the problem by buying a Promise IDE-133 controller.  It has its
> own bios for the drives.  A good way to bypass flaky ide controllers.

Can be if you have an available PCI slot, which is often not the case
with old motherboards. The FIC 503+ the original poster is using has
only 3 PCI slots to start with.

> They are about $50 or so from Office Despot.  They are near the hard
> drive.  I seem to remember them in a Western Digital box.

Considerably less elsewhere for a generic.
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Re: Re[2]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 21:40, Eric Huff wrote:
> > The more honest ones have admitted they can't justify
> > developing for more than IE, given the huge REPORTED market share.
> > With so many people using spoofing, it just makes the market share
> > look even bigger than it is. We can't win for loosing.
> 
> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for development.
>  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non IE browsers. 
> It would mean *less* work and less code if they didn't put it in to
> begin with.
> 
> eric

Eric,

   As I see it your battle is not against IE but rather against poor
quality (In light of recent changes) habits.  For years these developers
have been developing (As they say, "I've been a web developer since
1991") I've always had to do separate pages for IE and Netscape (Not
that anyone uses Netscape much anymore.)  / Mozilla.  I don't have time
to code for all of the other minor browsers (Some I've talked to of late
don't even want to "code" for Mozilla.) 

  The uphill is against lazy coders.  Resistant to learning and
changing.  Not all are but enough are that it's a struggle.  The second
hurdle is marketing.  Yep, you see they write the specs and the coders
code to that spec.  The spec says you will include code to support IE
and Netscape 4.0 or better.  In order to show that they do this they
include code that excludes other browsers and doesn't really benefit the
ones they include.  In fact much of the work is put into supporting
browsers that if they bothered to read the logs they would find that
they don't get customers using (I've not had a hit from IE older than
5.5 in over a year and no 4.0 hits in over 2.) Yet they are required to
support them.  Since of course that's the standard.  (shock the heck out
of Marketing people, pull up the Orange Book (the DoD standards manual)
all documents pertaining to submission of a bid for DoD contracts must
be in WordPerfect compatible format.  Sun Format will be accepted in
lieu of WordPerfect on a case by case basis.) 

   I wish you luck on your quest.  But it might be easier to suck an
elephant through a straw. (Am I getting cynical or what.)  Remember.

When a man tells you he's in Marketing ... remember to speak clearly. 
When he tells you he has an MBA, make sure you also speak slowly.  

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Re: Re[4]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:13, rikona wrote:
> Hello Eric,
> 
> Sunday, October 12, 2003, 9:40:03 PM, you wrote:
> 
> EH> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for
> EH> development.  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non
> EH> IE browsers.  It would mean *less* work and less code if they
> EH> didn't put it in to begin with.
> 
> I think it would be more work. They'd have to test it with other
> browsers, and since different ones DO act differently, they'd have to
> develop code to work in all of them. It seems to be easier (= cheaper)
> to just put in a check and ask users to use IE.
> 
> Many times one can view the code from a page and see where to go
> anyway, but when you do, it doesn't work right. We need to let them
> know they should code for other browsers.

or even better... get them to write w3c compliant code.  (and if on our
site you find a page that isn't let me know  please.)  Once I got
that written in, every browser I test  works right.  (I'm not doing
anything too fancy but the point is hopefully valid.)

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread HaywireMac
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:34:39 -0700
rikona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> The more  honest ones have admitted they can't justify developing for
> more than IE, given the huge REPORTED market share. With so many
> people using spoofing, it just makes the market share look even bigger
> than it is.

*Very* good point. Love it.

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 21:40, Eric Huff wrote:
> > The more honest ones have admitted they can't justify
> > developing for more than IE, given the huge REPORTED market share.
> > With so many people using spoofing, it just makes the market share
> > look even bigger than it is. We can't win for loosing.
> 
> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for development.
>  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non IE browsers. 
> It would mean *less* work and less code if they didn't put it in to
> begin with.
> 
> eric

unless it didn't work in your browser, or did but didn't look good. Both
cases come back to more work, only it's unplanned work.
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0700:
> 
> >  A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby
> >  Boomers (the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by 
> >  technology. 
> 
> Hmm, that counts me in (born 1946). So that's why I never curse at my
> computer. It's sheer fear of what it could do to me in my sleep!
> 
> wobo

Well ya got me by 10, but if you think about it.  How many of your
friends can't figure out how to open a file or program that isn't
iconized on their desktop?  However my Mom (68) is a Unix (Qnix) user. 
*grin*

James

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:51:28 -0700:
> 
> > Can you imagine a blue screen of death in the SouthPark edition *grin*
> 
> Or a help text from Kenny?
> Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!

I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
Korean and Gibberish. 

James

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[expert] Problems with cdrecord...

2003-10-12 Thread James Conner
I have a friend running MDK 9.1 with a CDROM on /dev/hdd and a Yamaha CDRW on 
/dev/hdc.  Both are emulated scsi via /etc/lilo.conf.  When you try to do a 
cd to cd copy in XCDRoast, it gives the following error:
Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev=0,0,0 gracetime=2 
fs=8192k driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed -v -useinfo speed=44 -dao -eject 
-pad tsize=0s -data -

scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
pregap1: -1
Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Driveropts: 'burnfree,noforcespeed'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW-F1E '
Revision   : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE AUDIOMASTER FORCESPEED DISKTATTOO
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 7469952 = 7294 KB
FIFO size  : 8388608 = 8192 KB
Track 01: data 0 MB padsize:   30 KB
Total size:0 MB (00:04.00) = 300 sectors
Lout start:1 MB (00:06/00) = 300 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 5
Is not unrestricted
Is not erasable
Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2)
ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 359549
Forcespeed is OFF.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 44 in real SAO mode for single session.
cdrecord: Premature EOF on stdin.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
cdrecord: Input buffer error, aborting.
input buffer ready.
cdrecord: fifo had 1 puts and 0 gets.
BURN-Free was never needed.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.


I've tried to set the write speed from 16x to 44x and with supermount on and 
off.  He is using the latest version of cdrecord from Mandrake.  It worked 
fine in MDK 9.0.  MDK 9.1 was a clean install.

ERoaster and K3b don't see either drive for some reason and can't be 
configured.

Here's /etc/fstab with supermount disabled:
/dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/scd0   /mnt/cdrom  auto 
codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,rw,nodev0 0
/dev/scd1   /mnt/cdrom2 auto 
codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto 
iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nodev   
0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0

Here's a copy of cdrecord -scanbus:
cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW-F1E ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
0,1,0 1) 'NEC ' 'CD-ROM DRIVE:28D' '3.03' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

I've google'd on the above warning and on "cdrecord: Premature EOF on stdin." 
from the output from XCDRoast.  I've found that the above warning can be 
ignored(maybe, not confirmed) but no confirmed solutions on either.  I've 
successfully setup ide burners on MDK 9.0(this system) and on other distros 
with no major problems.  This one has me stumped.  Any suggestions are 
appreciated.

Jim
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Re: Re[4]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:16, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:13, rikona wrote:
> > Hello Eric,
> > 
> > Sunday, October 12, 2003, 9:40:03 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > EH> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for
> > EH> development.  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non
> > EH> IE browsers.  It would mean *less* work and less code if they
> > EH> didn't put it in to begin with.
> > 
> > I think it would be more work. They'd have to test it with other
> > browsers, and since different ones DO act differently, they'd have to
> > develop code to work in all of them. It seems to be easier (= cheaper)
> > to just put in a check and ask users to use IE.
> > 
> > Many times one can view the code from a page and see where to go
> > anyway, but when you do, it doesn't work right. We need to let them
> > know they should code for other browsers.
> 
> or even better... get them to write w3c compliant code.  (and if on our
> site you find a page that isn't let me know  please.)  Once I got
> that written in, every browser I test  works right.  (I'm not doing
> anything too fancy but the point is hopefully valid.)
> 
> James

HTML isn't the difficulty, IMHO -- it's extensions like JavaScript and
to some extent application engines which embed their own languages in
(for instance, I spend entirely too much time these days with tclhttpd).
There's no w3c.org validator for JavaScript or VBScript :-)
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:21:38 -0700:

> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!
> 
> I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
> Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
> Korean and Gibberish. 

You can read such in every manual sheet of those cheap electric
household devices you buy at Woolworth or Walmart in Germany. As German
consumer laws demand that every product which needs a manual has to have
this manual in German language, those people in Korea or Taiwan or China
just let Babelfish do the translation. You can imagine what that looks
like.

Every stand-up comedian knows at least a couple of lines from those
manuals. 

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Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???

2003-10-12 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3693 days Rob Blomquist wrote:

> Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server 
> I was planning on rebuilding.

  

  I have an old pentium here with a couple of 80gig HDs and a 1gig
  HD...all you need to do is install in the small disk so the computer
  boots from it...once linux is running, it'll see the 80gig HD
  without a problem...I actually remember (and my roommate confirmed
  just now) that we have the 80gig disks marked as non-existant in the
  BIOS...linux checks the IDE controllers while booting and doesn't
  care about what the BIOS says.

  Vox

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Re: [expert] Problems with cdrecord...

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 17:22, James Conner wrote:
> I have a friend running MDK 9.1 with a CDROM on /dev/hdd and a Yamaha CDRW on 
> /dev/hdc.  Both are emulated scsi via /etc/lilo.conf.  When you try to do a 
> cd to cd copy in XCDRoast, it gives the following error:
> Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev=0,0,0 gracetime=2 
> fs=8192k driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed -v -useinfo speed=44 -dao -eject 
> -pad tsize=0s -data -
> 
> scsidev: '0,0,0'
> scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
> Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
> pregap1: -1
> Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
> Driveropts: 'burnfree,noforcespeed'
> atapi: 1
> Device type: Removable CD-ROM
> Version: 2
> Response Format: 2
> Capabilities   : SYNC
> Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
> Identifikation : 'CRW-F1E '
> Revision   : '1.0b'
> Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
> Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE AUDIOMASTER FORCESPEED DISKTATTOO
> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
> Drive buf size : 7469952 = 7294 KB
> FIFO size  : 8388608 = 8192 KB
> Track 01: data 0 MB padsize:   30 KB
> Total size:0 MB (00:04.00) = 300 sectors
> Lout start:1 MB (00:06/00) = 300 sectors
> Current Secsize: 2048
> ATIP info from disk:
> Indicated writing power: 5
> Is not unrestricted
> Is not erasable
> Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2)
> ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
> ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
> Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
> Manuf. index: 3
> Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
> Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 359549
> Forcespeed is OFF.
> Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 44 in real SAO mode for single session.
> cdrecord: Premature EOF on stdin.
> Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
> cdrecord: Input buffer error, aborting.
> input buffer ready.
> cdrecord: fifo had 1 puts and 0 gets.
> BURN-Free was never needed.
> cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.
> 
> 
> I've tried to set the write speed from 16x to 44x and with supermount on and 
> off.  He is using the latest version of cdrecord from Mandrake.  It worked 
> fine in MDK 9.0.  MDK 9.1 was a clean install.
> 
> ERoaster and K3b don't see either drive for some reason and can't be 
> configured.
> 
> Here's /etc/fstab with supermount disabled:
> /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom  auto 
> codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,rw,nodev  0 0
> /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 auto 
> codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev  0 0
> /dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy auto 
> iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nodev 
> 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> Here's a copy of cdrecord -scanbus:
> cdrecord -scanbus
> Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
> Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
> scsibus0:
> 0,0,0 0) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW-F1E ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
> cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
> 0,1,0 1) 'NEC ' 'CD-ROM DRIVE:28D' '3.03' Removable CD-ROM
> 0,2,0 2) *
> 0,3,0 3) *
> 0,4,0 4) *
> 0,5,0 5) *
> 0,6,0 6) *
> 0,7,0 7) *
> 
> I've google'd on the above warning and on "cdrecord: Premature EOF on stdin." 
> from the output from XCDRoast.  I've found that the above warning can be 
> ignored(maybe, not confirmed) but no confirmed solutions on either.  I've 
> successfully setup ide burners on MDK 9.0(this system) and on other distros 
> with no major problems.  This one has me stumped.  Any suggestions are 
> appreciated.
> 
> Jim

Jim,
   First did cdrao get installed (it's needed but not always there.)

   Just as a test if you put the needed cd in both drives (one blank one
real of course) and do 

cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=44 -isosize /dev/cdrom 

(on /dev/cdrom, this should match the device of your cdrom itself not
the cd-burner.)

Does that work?  If so that means that hardware is 100% as far as config
and recognition goes, next move on to the program itself and start
plugging away.  (BTW the above works great for me, I never have tried to
learn any of the gui's *grin*)

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-12 Thread James
Bryan wrote:
:If you are interested in installing pure-ftpd and getting it to work, I
:can send you a configuration file that with some slight alterations will
:allow you to grant anyone with a userid on your system access to ftp, or to
:easily add some additional users that only have ftp access.

Yes, I am interested.. thanks!

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:31, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:21:38 -0700:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > > Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!
> > 
> > I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
> > Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
> > Korean and Gibberish. 
> 
> You can read such in every manual sheet of those cheap electric
> household devices you buy at Woolworth or Walmart in Germany. As German
> consumer laws demand that every product which needs a manual has to have
> this manual in German language, those people in Korea or Taiwan or China
> just let Babelfish do the translation. You can imagine what that looks
> like.
> 
> Every stand-up comedian knows at least a couple of lines from those
> manuals. 
> 
> wobo

Like the infamous "These Knives sharp, please keep out of children."

James

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Re: [expert] Problems with cdrecord...

2003-10-12 Thread James Conner
On Monday 13 October 2003 05:38 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 17:22, James Conner wrote:
> > I have a friend running MDK 9.1 with a CDROM on /dev/hdd and a Yamaha
> > CDRW on /dev/hdc.  Both are emulated scsi via /etc/lilo.conf.  When you
> > try to do a cd to cd copy in XCDRoast, it gives the following error:
> > Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev=0,0,0
> > gracetime=2 fs=8192k driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed -v -useinfo
> > speed=44 -dao -eject -pad tsize=0s -data -

> > I've google'd on the above warning and on "cdrecord: Premature EOF on
> > stdin." from the output from XCDRoast.  I've found that the above warning
> > can be ignored(maybe, not confirmed) but no confirmed solutions on
> > either.  I've successfully setup ide burners on MDK 9.0(this system) and
> > on other distros with no major problems.  This one has me stumped.  Any
> > suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Jim,
>First did cdrao get installed (it's needed but not always there.)
>
>Just as a test if you put the needed cd in both drives (one blank one
> real of course) and do
>
> cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=44 -isosize /dev/cdrom
>
> (on /dev/cdrom, this should match the device of your cdrom itself not
> the cd-burner.)
>
> Does that work?  If so that means that hardware is 100% as far as config
> and recognition goes, next move on to the program itself and start
> plugging away.  (BTW the above works great for me, I never have tried to
> learn any of the gui's *grin*)
>
> James

IIRC, cdrdao was installed.  I'll double check.  I'll try the above command 
tomorrow and see if it works.  I have a list of things to try and check.  
I'll still entertain more ideas and things to try and check. :)

Jim
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Re: Re[4]: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:26, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:16, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:13, rikona wrote:
> > > Hello Eric,
> > > 
> > > Sunday, October 12, 2003, 9:40:03 PM, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > EH> That's the silly part: we're not really even asking for
> > > EH> development.  We just want them to get rid of the rejection of non
> > > EH> IE browsers.  It would mean *less* work and less code if they
> > > EH> didn't put it in to begin with.
> > > 
> > > I think it would be more work. They'd have to test it with other
> > > browsers, and since different ones DO act differently, they'd have to
> > > develop code to work in all of them. It seems to be easier (= cheaper)
> > > to just put in a check and ask users to use IE.
> > > 
> > > Many times one can view the code from a page and see where to go
> > > anyway, but when you do, it doesn't work right. We need to let them
> > > know they should code for other browsers.
> > 
> > or even better... get them to write w3c compliant code.  (and if on our
> > site you find a page that isn't let me know  please.)  Once I got
> > that written in, every browser I test  works right.  (I'm not doing
> > anything too fancy but the point is hopefully valid.)
> > 
> > James
> 
> HTML isn't the difficulty, IMHO -- it's extensions like JavaScript and
> to some extent application engines which embed their own languages in
> (for instance, I spend entirely too much time these days with tclhttpd).
> There's no w3c.org validator for JavaScript or VBScript :-)

Since VBScript and Valid are a contradiction I'll ignore it *grin* but
the purpose of jscript is to output html code that the broswer can use. 
I've got a number of scripts on my page and when I use the w3c validator
it told me not where my script was bad (I use Mozilla's js debugger for
that) but rather where the code it output was bad.  I've had it burp on
a couple of minor points. 

As for tclhttpd.  Sweet isn't it.  Small and it just plain works. 

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