Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On 18 Oct 2000, at 21:50, Arcana wrote: Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement. However, the cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed, so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :) Your information is hardly correct as a simple perusal of Tom's Hardware will show. He he he have a read of this link, the Duron still beats the PIII on FPU... http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q3/000925/mpeg4-02.html http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q2/000605/t-bird-08.html Your statement about FPU was true back in the K6-x days, it is no longer true. As for hardware? Any hardware that plugs into the standard Motherboard interfaces will work with the Duron. I have a USB mouse, a GeForce DDR, a Sound Blaster Live!, and a network card and they all operate with no problems at all. The motherboard I bought is an Asus A7V. I chose Asus because of their traditional high quality standards in motherboards. The A7V is also known for its fast speeds and easy overclocking. However, it comes at a price: you sometimes pay double for the A7V as opposed to another motherboard. Do some research about motherboards before you buy: it's the most important part of your system. All in all... I'm very satisfied with my AMD system and I have no reason right now to go back to Intel products. I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. -- -- Arcana Harondel J. Sibble Sibble Computer Consulting Creating solutions for the small business and home computer user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (use pgp keyid 0x3AD5C11D) http://www.pdscc.com (604) 739-3709 (voice/fax) (604) 686-2253 (pager) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
So sprach Arcana am Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:29PM -0400: as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed. The Athlon can't match Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache Hmm? Do you know that first hand, or did you just read it somewhere? Because I read in a mag, that especially in floating point math the Athlon beats a Pentium III. And this was so astonishing, because FP were always AMDs week side. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
Arcana wrote: As for the performance: the Duron outperforms the Celeron, so as a Celeron replacement, it absolutely boots Intel. However, don't expect it to perform as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed. The Athlon can't match Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement. However, the cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed, so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :) See Tom's Hardware guide for an article that shows this is a very antiquated myth (the fact that AMD chips lack FPU power). 3D Studio Max Benchmark http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-13.html (Duron 800@900 beats Petium 3 1000 by 25%) Quote from Tom's Hardware: http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-03.html Athlon outperforms Pentium III in scientific and floating-point intensive applications. - FACT This fact is well known, but it gets easily forgotten. Athlon's FPU is way superior to the FPU of Pentium III. It is expected that even Pentium 4's FPU can't compete against Athlon's. Thus every software that requires double-precision floating-point calculations will run 40-50% faster on Athlon than on Pentium III. This difference can't even be equalized with clock speed. Since the Duron is more similar to the Athlon than the Celeron is to the P3, the Duron still does better than the P3 at most FPU-intensive applications (like the 3DSMax). Buchan -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, you wrote: So sprach Arcana am Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:29PM -0400: as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed. The Athlon can't match Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache Hmm? Do you know that first hand, or did you just read it somewhere? Because I read in a mag, that especially in floating point math the Athlon beats a Pentium III. And this was so astonishing, because FP were always AMDs week side. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ: 7328191 Same here, everything I remember reading about the Athlon the first few months it hit, said it outperformed the PIII in every aspect. My system runs a K63-400 and I love it as much as I do my operating system!! Hope to upgrade to an Athlon one day soon. -- Roland Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kd5rh.net icq# 2981212 Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Registered Linux user# 183785 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
Sorry, I should have shown more explicity where the quote starts and ends See below. Buchan Milne wrote: Arcana wrote: As for the performance: the Duron outperforms the Celeron, so as a Celeron replacement, it absolutely boots Intel. However, don't expect it to perform as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed. The Athlon can't match Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement. However, the cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed, so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :) See Tom's Hardware guide for an article that shows this is a very antiquated myth (the fact that AMD chips lack FPU power). 3D Studio Max Benchmark http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-13.html (Duron 800@900 beats Petium 3 1000 by 25%) Quote from Tom's Hardware: http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-03.html ==start of quote= "Athlon outperforms Pentium III in scientific and floating-point intensive applications. - FACT This fact is well known, but it gets easily forgotten. Athlon's FPU is way superior to the FPU of Pentium III. It is expected that even Pentium 4's FPU can't compete against Athlon's. Thus every software that requires double-precision floating-point calculations will run 40-50% faster on Athlon than on Pentium III. This difference can't even be equalized with clock speed." =end of quote Since the Duron is more similar to the Athlon than the Celeron is to the P3, the Duron still does better than the P3 at most FPU-intensive applications (like the 3DSMax). Buchan -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System - BeOS M0andrake
Gavin Clark wrote: Speaking of BeOS, I want to check it out but their docs keep mentioning windows when installing it. This box is just mandrake. Can I get BeOS to install without MS? Thanks, Gavin Sure, thats the BEST way to do it.. Matter of fact many BeOS "tryer outers" are disgruntled since many people's hardware is left in such bad shape after M$ closes and tries to load Be that Be won't boot. Make a partition on your HD, install Be from a floppy ( you can find the info on Be's site ) and use Lilo or grub to boot. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System - BeOS M0andrake
So sprach Gavin Clark am Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 03:25:57PM -0700: Speaking of BeOS, I want to check it out but their docs keep mentioning windows when installing it. This box is just mandrake. Can I get BeOS to install without MS? There's a Beos4linux.tar.gz file on the beos mirrors. If you're interested, you might want to check it out - I still have to :-] Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System - BeOS M0andrake
You can download it here. http://beos.tucows.com/osupdates.html#ber5 Ron On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, you wrote: So sprach Gavin Clark am Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 03:25:57PM -0700: Speaking of BeOS, I want to check it out but their docs keep mentioning windows when installing it. This box is just mandrake. Can I get BeOS to install without MS? There's a Beos4linux.tar.gz file on the beos mirrors. If you're interested, you might want to check it out - I still have to :-] Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ: 7328191 Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Ron Marriage Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
AMB chips tend to run hotter than Intel chips, so you may want to invest in high quality cooling solutions and a good power supply. However, there have been reports of overclocking Duron chips as high as 1 GHz (www.tomshardware.com) using the A7V motherboard. Myself, I can't post my chip at speeds over 850 overclocked without extra cooling (like a floor fan), but after it's posted, I can remove the fan and it runs stable. Of course, the issues with overclocking apply to the Duron with respect to wearing out the hardware and reduced stability. The Duron runs on 1.50V by default. As for the performance: the Duron outperforms the Celeron, so as a Celeron replacement, it absolutely boots Intel. However, don't expect it to perform as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed. The Athlon can't match Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement. However, the cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed, so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :) As for hardware? Any hardware that plugs into the standard Motherboard interfaces will work with the Duron. I have a USB mouse, a GeForce DDR, a Sound Blaster Live!, and a network card and they all operate with no problems at all. The motherboard I bought is an Asus A7V. I chose Asus because of their traditional high quality standards in motherboards. The A7V is also known for its fast speeds and easy overclocking. However, it comes at a price: you sometimes pay double for the A7V as opposed to another motherboard. Do some research about motherboards before you buy: it's the most important part of your system. All in all... I'm very satisfied with my AMD system and I have no reason right now to go back to Intel products. I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. -- -- Arcana Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
Dan, Appreciate it you can share your experience when you install LM 7.1. Cheers Sridhar - Original Message - From: "Daniel Woods" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System I use a Epox 8kta M/B it works very well. I'm running a Thnuderbird 800 on it - I'm very pleased with the performance, stability and reliability of the system. I'm running ML 7.1, windows me, BeOs Personal and they all coexist well. The AMD is fater than the Intel chips at same clock speed for sure. Paul That's nice to know :) ... I just picked up the *exact* same system this morning to use as a Linux server for a library application. And of course I'll be installing LM7.1 on it (can't put beta 7.2). Thanks... Dan. University of Calgary Library and Computing Services Calgary, AB, CANADA Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
I use a Epox 8kta M/B it works very well. I'm running a Thnuderbird 800 on it - I'm very pleased with the performance, stability and reliability of the system. I'm running ML 7.1, windows me, BeOs Personal and they all coexist well. The AMD is fater than the Intel chips at same clock speed for sure. Paul -Original Message-From: Nathan Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2000 11:51 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron SystemI tend to build my Linux systems primarily on AMD chips. I have found them to be more stable and cost effective than the intel chips. I have also found that the AMD supported motherboards are typically built to be more robust than most intel supported boards. I would have to say that my only gripe is that no one seems to build a 1U rackmount specific montherboard.Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: 00c201c03344$40e29e00$020aa8c0@sairam" type="cite"> Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system TIA Cheers Sridhar Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit
RE: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
I use a Epox 8kta M/B it works very well. I'm running a Thnuderbird 800 on it - I'm very pleased with the performance, stability and reliability of the system. I'm running ML 7.1, windows me, BeOs Personal and they all coexist well. The AMD is fater than the Intel chips at same clock speed for sure. Paul That's nice to know :) ... I just picked up the *exact* same system this morning to use as a Linux server for a library application. And of course I'll be installing LM7.1 on it (can't put beta 7.2). Thanks... Dan. University of Calgary Library and Computing Services Calgary, AB, CANADA Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
I built an athlon system with a NICE AK72 (AOpen mobo) and a 700. Running 7.1, no problems. I DID buy a nice, LARGE, dual-fan heatsink and replaced the stock version. The chip, even not overclocked, runs hotter'n hell. Hottest chip I've ever had, without overclocking, and until now, I always overclocked. Not this time. praedor Daniel Woods wrote: I use a Epox 8kta M/B it works very well. I'm running a Thnuderbird 800 on it - I'm very pleased with the performance, stability and reliability of the system. I'm running ML 7.1, windows me, BeOs Personal and they Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
I tend to build my Linux systems primarily on AMD chips. I have found them to be more stable and cost effective than the intel chips. I have also found that the AMD supported motherboards are typically built to be more robust than most intel supported boards. I would have to say that my only gripe is that no one seems to build a 1U rackmount specific montherboard. Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: 00c201c03344$40e29e00$020aa8c0@sairam"> Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system TIA Cheers Sridhar Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. message.footerContent-Type:text/plainContent-Encoding:8bit
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: Hi, Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? Sorry, I don't know much about it, but since you say... Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system ...then I can give you my 2c experience. I have a dual boot PC (Win/Linux) based on an AMD K6-2 350MHz with (at present) Mandrake 7.1, and got no problems at all with hardware detection and recognition. All is working perfectly since the beginning of this year. The supplied hardware is: AMD K6-2 350 on an Asus P5-B motherboard, 128MB RAM 2HD IDE (15GB Fujitsu and 8GB Quantum) ultra-wide SCSI interface (iWill) with Plextor CD (40x) and CD-RW (4220), sound card (don't remember the model), PowerColor AGP graphic card (GeForce 256-based). The only problem I experienced was on the windows side with a couple of games, but I can't say that it's caused by AMD. Could be also the motherboard or the sound card. Hope this helps Alberto Vecchiato Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
I'm running 2 K7 systems, both are great. My new one has an asus A7V motherboard with a duron (the processor slot config allows for upgrading later). I was very impressed by the A7V, it has lots of goodies like 'wake on LAN', lots of hardware feedback, and BIOS settings to control all the fans. the case has 250 watt power supply - I've had no trouble and it flies like a bat out of hell. my only regret is that a more expensive case would have a power supply that can have its fan shut down by the motherboard when it's not needed. I would say don't skimp on the case or the motherboard, you can use these for years while you upgrade everything else. Gavin on 10/10/00 10:29 PM, Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system TIA Cheers Sridhar Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
At 10:29 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Yes. Many people have had problems getting their chips to work correctly without the correct power supply. This was a widespread problem when the Athlon was first released. Amazingly, after people started using AMD certified power supplies the problem went away. I would stick with one, after all, this can't increase your cost any more than $20-30 I would think. Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? Absolutely. Though sometimes you can find quirks with the motherboard and devices. I think there used to be a problem with VIA boards and certain video cards (although the reigning video king Nvidia never had any that I'm aware of). ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. I haven't built or overhauled a system in several months so I can't tell you. But, every time I'm about to I march right on over to www.tomshardware.com and check out his reviews. Never been led astray there. You can also check out Anand at www.anandtech.com for another opinion. I don't always agree with Anand's reviews as they don't always seem to be focused on actual perceivable differences in performance as opposed to purely numbers (often revealing minute differences). Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system Another place I would check is www.pricewatch.com which is where I usually go when looking for my components, they have a good listing of vendors and prices. In the past I've used MPI and Memman and never been disappointed. But, there are plenty of good vendors on there, just be careful, there's some dirtbags on there too from what I have heard. After you decide on the motherboard you want I would cram in usenet by doing Deja searches for the board. For instance, FIC boards have their own usenet group and you can read all about the good and the bad of their boards from actual users as well as installation hints. Any other help I would give you is personal preference of mine, I've used FIC boards and VIA chipsets for a while now and know all their quirks and whatnot. But, I don't know much about what they're offering for Duron right now, though I'm sure they have one. Good luck, Guy Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, you wrote: Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Yes, except for SSE.. Most programs dont use SSE. Many video card drivers do, but those drivers also have 3DNow optimizations as well. Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Yes.. The two things that you should not go cheap on are the power supply and the RAM.. By a power supply from the AMD list and buy good RAM.. That will ensure that you have a stable system Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? Yes.. ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. The ASUS A7V is probably the best Duron board.. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system I've had my Athlon system for over 6 months now. I've been extremely pleased with its stability and performance. Darin - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, you wrote: Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... AMD's 3D Now is superior to Intel in Multimedia and equal in the rest. Generally, speed for speed, AMD performs faster. Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? I use 250 to 300w powersupplies that come in generic cases and have yet to encounter any problems from low voltage etc. Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? I have used AMD exclusivly in my computer business for over 6yrs and have had great success with them. AFAIK, the AMD is totally compatible with ALL hardware on the market today. ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. I have had success with both the Epox and FIC mother boards using Duron 700's. -- Ken Thompson Payette, Idaho Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system TIA Cheers Sridhar Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. I'm using linux mandrake 7.0 an 7.1 with AMD K7 and k7 athlon with no problem at all. I use a MSI KT133PRO and a ASUS KV133. As video card I use a ASUS 6800 ge force 256 DDR. SCSI controller adaptec aha 2940 connected to a CDROMPlextor UltraPlex a Iomega Zip drive, a HP DDS2 dat a mylex raid controller with ibm 18.2 ultra 2 drives the systems work without a glitch. so I recommend AMD K7 processors. -- Alberto Passariello Byte Works Sistemi S.r.l. Cisco Systems partner Premier certified Viale Liegi 44, 00198 Roma Tel: +39 6 863.863.22 Fax: +39 6 863.863.23 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
There are a few video cards etc that die when you try using AMD rather than Intel but usually you can find this out before you by the card. Other than that I've never had any hardware conflicts other than obvious shit like needing a compatible motherboard for the CPU. :) I think AMD CPU's run great and are a bargain for their price. I have a lot of experience with both Intel and AMD (among others) and have no complaints against either. *^*^*^* Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape you. -- Albert Einstein On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Ken Thompson wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, you wrote: Hi, I am planning to build a 750 Mhz system with AMD's Duron processor primarily for it's cost benefit. The Duron CPU seems to cost less and perform equally to an Intel CPU. But I prefer input from users who are using AMD chips. I have a couple of concerns regarding the AMD processor. Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... AMD's 3D Now is superior to Intel in Multimedia and equal in the rest. Generally, speed for speed, AMD performs faster. Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? I use 250 to 300w powersupplies that come in generic cases and have yet to encounter any problems from low voltage etc. Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? I have used AMD exclusivly in my computer business for over 6yrs and have had great success with them. AFAIK, the AMD is totally compatible with ALL hardware on the market today. ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. I have had success with both the Epox and FIC mother boards using Duron 700's. -- Ken Thompson Payette, Idaho Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Yes, except AMD doesn't have SSE, then again Intel doesn't have 3DNOW. Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? I don't know, but I'd go with AMD's reccommendations... Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? Yes. ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. I don't currently have a Duron, so I cannot say... Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system But I have built AMD systems :-) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
