Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Jason Williams]

At 06:20 PM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote:
urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific
media with --media  or restrict it to update media with --update
It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just
being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close
match.
Compare for example what is returned if you do :-
urpmq samba
urpmq samb
urpmq --fuzzy samba
derek
Ok..not sure what the problem was, but I did the following and it appears 
to be working now.

I removed all the urpmi media and then re-added it.
I then updated all my  media, but I got the following error.
$ urpmi.update -a
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "updates"...
...retrieving done
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz]
computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis)
examining MD5SUM file
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis)
examining MD5SUM file
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "contrib"...
computing md5sum of retrieved source hdlist (or synthesis)
...retrieving failed: md5sum mismatch
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "contrib"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
Now, I see "updates" and "contrib" but I dont see "main". It also appears 
that "contrib" failed as well.

however, when I search for samba now, I get all the releases, 2.2.8a to 3.0.0.

Any ideas on what happened with the update?

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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 5:41 pm, Jason Williams wrote:
SNIP
>
> One last question regarding sources for urpmi.
> I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media,
> just to get a feel for things.
> The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only
> lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree
> and not the 'main' tree.
>
> Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically
> want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3   or something
> similar?
>
> I appreciate it.
>
> Jason

urpmq will search all available media unless you force it to use a specific 
media with --media  or restrict it to update media with --update

It may be your 'main' source is not configured properly or maybe you are just 
being misled by the way urpmq will return a limited list if there is a close 
match.

Compare for example what is returned if you do :-
urpmq samba
urpmq samb
urpmq --fuzzy samba

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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Jason Williams]

At 02:41 AM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote:
It is the tree on the mirror that is broken. We will have to wait until it is
fixed.
 It is the file 'list' in the contrib folder that is out of date. The list
includes the old kernel packages that were replaced.
I do not know how urpmi uses the list file. It is clearly not essential since
not all sources have one.
When it is eventually fixed do a urpmi.update -a  to bring your database in
line with the mirror.
You should also be updating the database for your updates source frequently.
I automate my updates in a cron job with this :-

urpmi.update updates && urpmi --update --auto --auto-select

derek
Thanks. I appreciate the input.

One last question regarding sources for urpmi.
I've been playing around with the commands to add media and remove media, 
just to get a feel for things.
The only question I have now, is that when I do a search for samba, it only 
lists samba3. From what im gathering, it is searching the 'contrib' tree 
and not the 'main' tree.

Is there a way to get urpmi to search both trees? Then, if I specifically 
want to look for samba3, I could type: urpmq -i samb3   or something similar?

I appreciate it.

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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 1:21 am, Jason Williams wrote:
snip
>
> >That error with
> >"medium "contrib" uses an invalid list file:
> >mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method"
> >
> >is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out
> > of date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an
> > annoyance.
>
> Anyway to fix this manually? Or can I just resync my sources to get the
> updated tree?

It is the tree on the mirror that is broken. We will have to wait until it is 
fixed.
 It is the file 'list' in the contrib folder that is out of date. The list 
includes the old kernel packages that were replaced.
I do not know how urpmi uses the list file. It is clearly not essential since 
not all sources have one.
When it is eventually fixed do a urpmi.update -a  to bring your database in 
line with the mirror.
You should also be updating the database for your updates source frequently.

I automate my updates in a cron job with this :-

urpmi.update updates && urpmi --update --auto --auto-select


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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Jason Williams]

At 12:40 AM 11/19/2003 +, you wrote:
For urpmq --fuzzy   you need to supply a string parameter
For example urpmq --fuzzy samba
Doh! Whoops...makes sense now. :)

That error with
"medium "contrib" uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method"
is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of
date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance.
Anyway to fix this manually? Or can I just resync my sources to get the 
updated tree?

To remove your CD media type
urpmi.removemedia
You will be given a list of all the urpmi sources, then
urpmi.removemedia media_name
will remove a specific media.
Worked like a charm. On a side note, anyone know if urpmi.org is going to 
be updated soon?

HTH

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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Greg Meyer]

On Tuesday 18 November 2003 07:40 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out
> of date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an
> annoyance.

This is really only a cooker problem.  The distribution mirrors should be 
fine.  You probably are getting the error during the day because many mirrors 
limit anonymous ftp during business hours to reserve resources for faculty 
and staff, and the servers are extra busy right now because mandrake and 
fedora have both recently been released.
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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Greg Meyer]

On Tuesday 18 November 2003 07:27 pm, Jason Williams wrote:
> $ urpmq -i samba3-common
> medium "contrib" uses an invalid list file:
>mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
>
> Still gives the description, but that error is something i'd like to
> correct.

This happens to me all the time during the day, when many mirrors limit access 
for anonymous ftp.  All it really means if you know your mirror entries are 
good, is that the script could not gain access to the server through 
anonymous ftp.

Try again outside of business hours, or try another mirror.  Being in the US, 
I use the European mirrors in the afternoon, because it is evening there, an 
Australian mirror for the same reason in the morning and the US mirrors in 
the evening.  I actually get around this problem by keeping a local mirror of 
the dist, contrib and update trees on one of my servers, and sync them at 
night with a script.  This way I never have to worry about mirror 
availability.
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Re: [expert] urpmi woes

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 12:27 am, Jason Williams wrote:
> Ok...not sure if this should go here, but so far, i've had no luck in
> trying to resolve my problems with urpmi.
>
> Just did a fresh install of 9.2 on one of our IBM servers.
>
> I used the easy urpmi site to setup my urpmi servers so I could install
> software accordingly.
>
> Also, I should mention that I did go to http://www.urpmi.org and tried to
> read the how-to, but a lot of the pages are no longer active.
>
> Here is the problem.
> When I run urpmq --fuzzy, I get no response. Not sure why, but it does not
> list anything.
>
> Also, look at the following:
>
> $ urpmq -i samba3-common
> medium "contrib" uses an invalid list file:
>mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
>
> Still gives the description, but that error is something i'd like to
> correct.
>
> Quick look at my urpmi.cfg:
>
> Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS {
>hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
>with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist1.cz
>removable: /dev/hda
>key-ids: 70771ff3
> }
>
> Installation\ CD\ 2\ (x86)\ (cdrom2) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2 {
>hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz
>with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
>removable: /dev/hda
>key-ids: 70771ff3
> }
>
> International\ CD\ (x86)\ (cdrom3) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3 {
>hdlist: hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz
>with_hdlist: ../../Mandrake/base/hdlist3.cz
>removable: /dev/hda
>key-ids: 70771ff3
> }
>
> updates
> ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS {
>hdlist: hdlist.updates.cz
>with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
>update
> }
>
> main
> ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
> { hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
>with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
>key-ids: 70771ff3
> }
>
> contrib
> ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 {
> hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
>with_hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
>list: list.contrib
>key-ids: 70771ff3
> }
>
> Granted, I really do not want to use the CD's for any type of installation,
> but instead just use the ftp sites exclusively.
>
> With that in mind, I feel like im a little lost in the water here.
>
> What can I do to correct this problem?
>
> I appreciate everyones help and input.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason

For urpmq --fuzzy   you need to supply a string parameter
For example urpmq --fuzzy samba

That error with 
"medium "contrib" uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method"

is a temporary issue because the list file on the mirrors is currently out of 
date. It does not affect the operation of urpmi. It is just an annoyance.

To remove your CD media type
urpmi.removemedia
You will be given a list of all the urpmi sources, then
urpmi.removemedia media_name 
will remove a specific media.

HTH

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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 8:07 pm, Jason Williams wrote:
> Last question.
>
> Is there a way to get a package description of the available
> packages through urpmi?
> I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/
>
In 9.1, using the gui, there's a check-box for 'maximum information'

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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Jason Williams]

At 12:17 PM 11/18/2003 -0800, you wrote:
urpmi urpmc and then use it to find what's available.  (Only in 9.2 att
but the src rpm does build on 9.1)
Ok...grabbed urpmc.
I currently dont have any samba or LDAP installed. However, in playing with 
urpmi, I see there are quite a few packages available to download. That is 
why i was trying to find a description of the packages, before I start 
downloading them. I may grab a different one if I like what it may offer.

Dang it...I dont recall now. :<

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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[James Sparenberg]

On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 12:07, Jason Williams wrote:
> Last question.
> 
> Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages 
> through urpmi?
> I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/

urpmi urpmc and then use it to find what's available.  (Only in 9.2 att
but the src rpm does build on 9.1)
> 
> On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on whether 9.1 or 9.2 is better 
> suited for production right now?
> 
> Jason
> 
> At 08:37 AM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
> > > On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
> >
> > > > Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
> > > > download?
> > >
> > >   "urpmq --list"  will give you a list of all available
> > > packages, without versions. "urpmq --fuzzy samba" will give you
> > > all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
> > > recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
> >
> > You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc').  Then after you
> >update your sources, simply typing  'urpmc'  will list all the
> >available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
> >  tom # urpmc
> >club uses a synthesis file.  Cannot output changelog.
> >Will list package names only.  Reconfigure the medium to use
> >a hdlist file to get a changelog.
> >kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk -> kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
> >
> >   Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
> >kernel-source in my skiplist).  Suggestion, use
> >'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
> >also include changelog, and could be very long. I get " Cannot
> >output changelog." because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
> >--
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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Jason Williams]

Last question.

Is there a way to get a package description of the available packages 
through urpmi?
I swear I was able to do so, but dont recall how to do it now. :/

On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on whether 9.1 or 9.2 is better 
suited for production right now?

Jason

At 08:37 AM 11/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
> On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
> > Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
> > download?
>
>   "urpmq --list"  will give you a list of all available
> packages, without versions. "urpmq --fuzzy samba" will give you
> all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
> recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.
You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc').  Then after you
update your sources, simply typing  'urpmc'  will list all the
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
 tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file.  Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only.  Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk -> kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk
  Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have
kernel-source in my skiplist).  Suggestion, use
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get " Cannot
output changelog." because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:27 pm, Vox wrote:
> On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:

> > Is there a way to list the packages that are available to
> > download?
>
>   "urpmq --list"  will give you a list of all available
> packages, without versions. "urpmq --fuzzy samba" will give you
> all packages that have samba in the name or description. I
> recommend reading the man pages for all the urpm* commands.

You can also install urpmc ('urpmi urpmc').  Then after you 
update your sources, simply typing  'urpmc'  will list all the 
available updates (with version numbers) from all sources. EG,
 tom # urpmc
club uses a synthesis file.  Cannot output changelog.
Will list package names only.  Reconfigure the medium to use
a hdlist file to get a changelog.
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk -> kernel-source-2.4.22-25mdk

  Even ones you may have in your /etc/urpmi/skip.list (I have 
kernel-source in my skiplist).  Suggestion, use 
'synthesis.hdlist's for your sources, otherwise the list will 
also include changelog, and could be very long. I get " Cannot 
output changelog." because I only use synthesis.hdlist's.
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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Eric Huff]

You can also check out 

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi

on the twiki.

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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:27, Vox wrote:
> On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
> 
> > Evening everyone.
> >
> > I just installed Mandrake 9.2 via FTP onto one of our servers to test
> > out. We are looking for a replacement OS for our servers. One thing I
> > wanted to learn is some of the Mandrake specific tools, specifically
> > urpmi and msec.
> >
> > I was working with urpmi trying to learn its functions and have a
> > couple of questions.
> >
> > Is there a way to list the packages that are available to download?
> 
>   "urpmq --list"  will give you a list of all available packages,
>   without versions. "urpmq --fuzzy samba" will give you all packages
>   that have samba in the name or description. I recommend reading the
>   man pages for all the urpm* commands.

Vox,

   Except for uprmq I would agree.  It's perhaps the least helpful of
all of them.  It has some... but it's IMHO weak.

James

PS I know I know submit a patch *grin*

> >
> > For instance, I was playing around and typed:
> >
> > urpmi samba
> >
> > It gave me a list of dependencies, which is nice, but then said it was
> > going to install samba 2.2.8a. Is there a way to grab the 3.0
> > version?
> 
>   samba3 is only in contrib, so you need to have a contrib source
>   configured to be able to install samba3. Due to it being in contrib,
>   it's named in a distinct way, which in this case means adding the 3
>   to the name of all packages. So to install samba3, you do "urpmi
>   samba3" :)
> 
> > Secondly, is there a way with urpmi to see what versions of the
> > software I have? I know I can with rpm -qa |grep . Can you do
> > this with urpmi?
> 
>   urpmq -r  will give you the release and version of the
>   package. The problem with that output is that it'll give you release
>   and version of available packages, it doesn't care or differentiate
>   between installed and not installed. I'm not sure if there's a way
>   of doing the same thing as "rpm -q package" with urpmi.
> 
>   Vox


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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:06, Jason Williams wrote:
> Evening everyone.
> 
> I just installed Mandrake 9.2 via FTP onto one of our servers to test out. 
> We are looking for a replacement OS for our servers. One thing I wanted to 
> learn is some of the Mandrake specific tools, specifically urpmi and msec.
> 
> I was working with urpmi trying to learn its functions and have a couple of 
> questions.
> 
> Is there a way to list the packages that are available to download?
> 
> For instance, I was playing around and typed:
> 
> urpmi samba
> 
> It gave me a list of dependencies, which is nice, but then said it was 
> going to install samba 2.2.8a. Is there a way to grab the 3.0 version?

Only if it's on one of the mirrors you are accessing.  Then it would
give you a choice and build dependencies from there.  I'm not sure
who/if it's done yet for 9.2.
> 
> I'd like a way to see what I have available, through the command line.
> 
> Secondly, is there a way with urpmi to see what versions of the software I 
> have? I know I can with rpm -qa |grep . Can you do this with urpmi?
> 

urpmf /path/to/some/file will tell you the files parent.  But AFAIK it's
still not doing the queries quit right (all intended features are not
there yet).  However urpmq samba for example tells you what you have
installed just like rpm .. does.
 
> That should be about it for now...

Just for help urpmi.org is a collection of docs and explanations. 

 
> 
> Learning the ropes here.
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Bill Mullen]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Vox wrote:

> On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:
> 
> > Secondly, is there a way with urpmi to see what versions of the
> > software I have? I know I can with rpm -qa |grep . Can you do
> > this with urpmi?
> 
>   urpmq -r  will give you the release and version of the
>   package. The problem with that output is that it'll give you release
>   and version of available packages, it doesn't care or differentiate
>   between installed and not installed. I'm not sure if there's a way
>   of doing the same thing as "rpm -q package" with urpmi.

Of course, "rpm -qa | grep package" will still work, because urpmi is an
adjunct to rpm, and you can use whichever is more appropriate for the task
at hand - you have them both installed. I use the urpm* tools for most
things (and *always* for installing/upgrading packages), but when I want
to restrict a query to installed packages only, I just use rpm.

For more on the urpm* family of apps, see:

http://www.urpmi.org

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Re: [expert] urpmi questions

[Vox]

On September 1993 plus 3725 days Jason Williams wrote:

> Evening everyone.
>
> I just installed Mandrake 9.2 via FTP onto one of our servers to test
> out. We are looking for a replacement OS for our servers. One thing I
> wanted to learn is some of the Mandrake specific tools, specifically
> urpmi and msec.
>
> I was working with urpmi trying to learn its functions and have a
> couple of questions.
>
> Is there a way to list the packages that are available to download?

  "urpmq --list"  will give you a list of all available packages,
  without versions. "urpmq --fuzzy samba" will give you all packages
  that have samba in the name or description. I recommend reading the
  man pages for all the urpm* commands.
>
> For instance, I was playing around and typed:
>
> urpmi samba
>
> It gave me a list of dependencies, which is nice, but then said it was
> going to install samba 2.2.8a. Is there a way to grab the 3.0
> version?

  samba3 is only in contrib, so you need to have a contrib source
  configured to be able to install samba3. Due to it being in contrib,
  it's named in a distinct way, which in this case means adding the 3
  to the name of all packages. So to install samba3, you do "urpmi
  samba3" :)

> Secondly, is there a way with urpmi to see what versions of the
> software I have? I know I can with rpm -qa |grep . Can you do
> this with urpmi?

  urpmq -r  will give you the release and version of the
  package. The problem with that output is that it'll give you release
  and version of available packages, it doesn't care or differentiate
  between installed and not installed. I'm not sure if there's a way
  of doing the same thing as "rpm -q package" with urpmi.

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Re: [expert] urpmi vs rpm

[Bill Mullen]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, James Sparenberg wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > In a previous email Dr. Monkeynoodle spake thusly:
> > 
> > "2 urpmi /the/rpm/you/got. "
> > 
> > Is there an advantage to "urpmi"-ing it rather than "rpm -ivh"-ing it?
> > 
> > It seems to me that urpmi is just a searching front end for rpm.
> 
> just like an rpm is nothing more than a cpio archive I guess.  URPMI has
> the advantages most heavily in assuring that dependencies are
> maintained, rpms are signed, and verified.  however if you've done all
> the leg work.  You know that all of the dependencies are met and that
> the rpm matches your distro.  You end up in the same place.

I'll only add that using urpmi is more like "rpm -Uvh" than "rpm -ivh".

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Re: [expert] urpmi vs rpm

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> In a previous email Dr. Monkeynoodle spake thusly:
> 
> "2 urpmi /the/rpm/you/got. "
> 
> Is there an advantage to "urpmi"-ing it rather than "rpm -ivh"-ing it?
> 
> It seems to me that urpmi is just a searching front end for rpm.
> 
> Fire away.
> 
> Rob

just like an rpm is nothing more than a cpio archive I guess.  URPMI has
the advantages most heavily in assuring that dependencies are
maintained, rpms are signed, and verified.  however if you've done all
the leg work.  You know that all of the dependencies are met and that
the rpm matches your distro.  You end up in the same place.

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Re: [expert] urpmi won't install kdesdk/kdevelop

[Anguo]

On Monday 03 Nov 2003 4:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Had this last night on another rpm.  When I pulled it
> down manually and did rpm -Uvvh on it I found that it was
> the MD5 that was balking and the mirror I was using had
> this rpm bad.  I switched mirrors pulled it down manually
> moved it to /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and re-ran my urpmi
> statement and it went in (it didn't try to download the
> rpm again since it was already on the box and in the
> right place.)  YMMV.


Yes, that was the problem.

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] urpmi won't install kdesdk/kdevelop

[James Sparenberg]

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:10, Anguo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks to your help, I have solved my 
> autoconf/automake/BerkeleyDB requirements, but I still fail 
> to install kdevelop.
> 
> I have tried everything I could think of, including 
> installing from source.
> 
> After a few hours of compiling, the latest cvs snapshot 
> won't compile. After a few more hours of compiling the 
> latest stable release, the compile is still unsuccessful.
> 
> I am back to urpmi, trying to do it the "easy" way: usually 
> urpmi makes thinks very easy (thanks to the packaging 
> efforts of many volunteers and Mandrakesoft employees) but 
> this time, it simply won't work.
> 
> kdesdk is needed by kdevelop but this package won't install, 
> however I try to force it to.
> 
> # urpmi kdesdk
> rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format
> error: cannot open Pubkeys index using db3 - Invalid 
> argument (22)
> The following packages have bad signatures:
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid 
> signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG GPG#70771ff3 NOT OK)
> Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
> installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm
> error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 
> digest: BAD Expected(97f2ba5a91888cd3af40f89be6b65868) != 
> (393221db35071aa90eaa73816a9a5ba8)
> unable to install package 
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm

Had this last night on another rpm.  When I pulled it down manually and
did rpm -Uvvh on it I found that it was the MD5 that was balking and the
mirror I was using had this rpm bad.  I switched mirrors pulled it down
manually moved it to /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and re-ran my urpmi statement
and it went in (it didn't try to download the rpm again since it was
already on the box and in the right place.)  YMMV.
> 
> 
> I have tried updating my urpmi sources, changing sources, 
> manually downloading the file and do urpmi with the local 
> file, I tried with the --force option.
> I have tried without urpmi but simply rpm -i:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# rpm -i --force 
> kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm
> error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, 
> key ID 70771ff3
> error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm cannot be installed
> 
> I have also checked the mandrake update, to see if there is 
> any related update, but nothing.
> 
> Nothing works.
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> Anguo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert] urpmi won't install kdesdk/kdevelop

[Rolf Pedersen]

Anguo wrote:
Hello,

Thanks to your help, I have solved my 
autoconf/automake/BerkeleyDB requirements, but I still fail 
to install kdevelop.

I have tried everything I could think of, including 
installing from source.

After a few hours of compiling, the latest cvs snapshot 
won't compile. After a few more hours of compiling the 
latest stable release, the compile is still unsuccessful.

I am back to urpmi, trying to do it the "easy" way: usually 
urpmi makes thinks very easy (thanks to the packaging 
efforts of many volunteers and Mandrakesoft employees) but 
this time, it simply won't work.

kdesdk is needed by kdevelop but this package won't install, 
however I try to force it to.

# urpmi kdesdk
rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys: unexpected file type or format
error: cannot open Pubkeys index using db3 - Invalid 
argument (22)
The following packages have bad signatures:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid 
signature ((SHA1) DSA sha1 MD5 GPG GPG#70771ff3 NOT OK)
Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm
error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 
digest: BAD Expected(97f2ba5a91888cd3af40f89be6b65868) != 
(393221db35071aa90eaa73816a9a5ba8)
unable to install package 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm

I have tried updating my urpmi sources, changing sources, 
manually downloading the file and do urpmi with the local 
file, I tried with the --force option.
I have tried without urpmi but simply rpm -i:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# rpm -i --force 
kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm
error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, 
key ID 70771ff3
error: kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm cannot be installed

I have also checked the mandrake update, to see if there is 
any related update, but nothing.

Nothing works.

thanks for your help.

Anguo

This works here (9.2):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpmi kdesdk
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpme kdesdk
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages will be removed (13 MB):
kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586
kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586 (due to missing kdesdk[*])
Is this OK? (Y/n)
removing kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586 kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]# urpmi kdevelop
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (13 MB):
kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586
kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n)

installing /mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS2/kdevelop-2.1.5-16mdk.i586.rpm 
/mnt/hd/Mandrake/RPMS2/kdesdk-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing... 
##
   1:kdesdk 
##
   2:kdevelop 
##

I see a bad md5sum error in your install attempt, which could be a 
corrupt download file, and a gpg signature check failure.  What does the 
following query give you:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qa gpg-pubkey*
gpg-pubkey-d7c32450-3cbb6966
gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f
gpg-pubkey-caba22ae-3cf2c469
gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de
Have you tried rpm --rebuilddb ?

What is your version, how did you install, and are you downloading rpms 
that are on CD2 of 9.2?

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Re: [expert] urpmi: "Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)"

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 22:39, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I keep getting this error from urpmi. What can I do to fix it up, short of 
> deleting it without a care?
> 
> "unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)" into account 
> as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)] 
> exists"

sounds like a file got deleted (by accident) or never got created
right.  I do a 

urpmi.removemedia "Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)"   

The quotes are because of the spaces in the name.  Once removed I'd then
re-add this media.  With the number of updates for 9.2 this is a
critical need. *grin*

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Re: [expert] urpmi auto select question

[James Sparenberg]

On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:53, Brian wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to flag certain packages so they are NOT
> included during the update process?  Is this even possible?  I've been
> unable to locate a clear answer on this one.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> -- 
>   Brian
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cd /etc/urpmi
 
edit the skiplist  and put in there the short name of what you want
skipped.

For example if the current rpm is foo-1.2.6.5mdk.rpm  just enter foo and
it will skip all future versions.

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Re: [expert] urpmi auto select question

[Charles A Edwards]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:53:11 -0500
"Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a way to flag certain packages so they are NOT
> included during the update process?

list them in /etc/urpmi/skip.list


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Re: [expert] urpmi: get summaries, etc

[Eric Huff]

Rolf,

Thanks for the great summary. It's exactly what i needed.

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Re: [expert] urpmi: get summaries, etc

[Rolf Pedersen]

Eric Huff wrote:
Hello,

How can i search the names of rpms, and show the summary and
description?
If i urpmf, it appears to search more.
The more you specify a file path to urpmf, the less it will return as 
relevant, and vice-versa.  However, if urpmf returns nothing for a 
specific library, for instance, it might be useful to cut pieces from 
the end of the library argument you are searching on, bit-by-bit, to get 
some clue of what package might be related to your search.
What i'd like is a command line version of what rpmdrake does:  once
i get it open, it very nicely shows only packages with "nmh" (for
example) in the
name  and i can quickly see the description and
summary.
You can look for a certain package name or name containing a certain 
string with urpmq; also try urpmq --fuzzy for a broader search (see man 
urpmq):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq bit
The following packages contain bit:
bittorrent-shadowsclient
fonts-bitmap-tscii
libebits1
libebits1-devel
libitclib0
libitclib0-devel
libitclib0-static-devel
orbital_eunuchs_sniper
pyorbit
pyorbit-devel
You can use the -i option for urpmq:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq -i bittorrent-shadowsclient
Name: bittorrent-shadowsclient
Version : 5.8.3
Release : 1mdk
Group   : Networking/File transfer
Size: 890705   Architecture: noarch
Summary : BitTorrent is a tool for copying files from one machine to 
another

It also, on the same page, shows the current version i have
installed, if any.
Use rpm -q to see installed version, if any:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -q pyorbit
package pyorbit is not installed
Also, use urpmq --sources to find the path to an uninstalled rpm in your 
sources and read the package information with rpm -qip (man rpm):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ urpmq --sources pyorbit
file://contrib/i586/pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rolf]$ rpm -qip /contrib/i586/pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
Name: pyorbit  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.0.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue 02 Sep 2003 
02:24:11 AM PDT
Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: klama.mandrake.org
Group   : Development/GNOME and GTK+Source RPM: 
pyorbit-2.0.0-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 107274   License: LGPL
Signature   : (none)
Packager: Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pyorbit/
Summary : Python bindings for ORBit2.
Description :
pyorbit is an extension module for python that gives you access
to the ORBit2 CORBA ORB.

Is there a line (or lines) for urpm* that i can use?

I find the urpm*/rpm tools to be more convenient, quick, and flexible 
than rpmdrake, once I have got the hang of them.

Rolf

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:19, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
> 
> > > There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
> > > the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
> > > connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
> > 
> > Well. duh..
> > 
> > 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
> > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
> 
> And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
> acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
> knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?
> ;-)
> 
> wobo

Well the page is there the list is there.   But if you go straight into
a number of those mirrors the files aren't there.  As in no 9.2
directory just 9.0 and 9.1

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[Jack Coates]

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:17, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
...
> I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
> October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???
> 
> See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)
> 

rpms != isos

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Re: [expert] urpmi

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October 15, 2003 01:17 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200
>
> Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
> > > > There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
> > > > the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
> > > > connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
> > >
> > > Well. duh..
> > >
> > > 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
> > > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
> >
> > And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
> > acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
> > knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?
>
> I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
> October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???
>
> See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)
>
> Tim

The 9.2 Canicule trees would need to be on the mirrors as they are because:

Those individuals with access to the ISOs ahead of mere mortals  will need 
to be able to add the contrib directories for a lot of software not on the 
disks;

The ISOs won't hold everything in main simply because of space limitations so 
that needs to be there as well;

The SRPMS need to be there so that people with "odd" hardware systems can roll 
their own.

I'm sure there are other reasons too. Just my brief take.

BTW there are no hdlist2.cz files on the mirrors so you'll probably have to 
genhdlist on the full tree to use contribs anyway.

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0200
Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:
> 
> > > There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
> > > the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
> > > connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
> > 
> > Well. duh..
> > 
> > 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
> > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586
> 
> And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
> acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
> knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?

I thought the general release for the public was not until the end of
October.  We (public / non-mdk club) can download rpms and isos now???

See why I'm confused, or am I the only one as usual?  ;-)

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[Wolfgang Bornath]

Tim Sawchuck schrieb am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:45 -0700:

> > There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on
> > the mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of
> > connect to verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true
> 
> Well. duh..
> 
> 9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586

And it was not 'by mistake'. It was an action, planned by a human brain,
acted out by humans with the help of electronic devices and ancient
knowledge. So how can you think of 'a mistake'?
;-)

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:06:34 -0700
Tim Sawchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700
> Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a
> > bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need
> > to define new sources :-)
> > 
> > Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not
> > alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is
> > over.
> 
> I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want,
> but at about 1/3 of my normal download speed.  It appears that
> urpmi.update -a--wget works!?
> 
> There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the
> mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to
> verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true

Well. duh..

9.2 RPMS are available right from the source mirrors!
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#586

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Re: [expert] urpmi

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:29:56 -0700
Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the mirrors are slammed and urpmi is not working, which is a bit of a
> bummer as I managed to hork the rpm database on one of my boxes and need
> to define new sources :-)
> 
> Just wanted to let anyone else having problems know that you're not
> alone; it'll probably straighten out in a few days after the 9.2 rush is
> over.

I'm getting an update, since Contrib shows a couple new updates I want, but
at about 1/3 of my normal download speed.  It appears that urpmi.update -a
--wget works!?

There is a rumor that the complete 9.2 RPMS were also released on the
mirrors by mistake, but I have not been able to get any kind of connect to
verify.  That would add to the frenzy, if true

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:32:28 -0700
Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 21:04, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:39, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> > > Ok, thanks to Jack and Eric it works.  I did not read the instructions
> > > and tried to start it with Xdm or Xtart.  I do not have kdm or gdm
> > > installed, so I like the WMs that will allow me to change to another,
> > > until I decide which one to settle on.  Right now I need a combo of
> > > blackbox and Ice, or if bb just had a pager (found one, but you cannot
> > > change vdesktops with it).
> > > 
> > > I might like xfce4 if I can find the time to get menus in it.:-)
> > > 
> > > Tim
> > > 
> > > 
> > Since xfce (3.8) is in the contribs section for 9.1 I wonder if you
> > installed it... then did the build / install from 4 over it if you would
> > keep the menu's etc or not.
> > 
> > James
> ...
> 
> nope; there's a program called MenuMaker though that handles making
> menus from the GNOME and KDE stuff for everything else. That's the
> stopgap until XFce can implement the new freedesktop.org menu standard
> (they're aiming for the 4.2 release).

Found it and installed it, but have not had time to read how to set it up
yet.


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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Jack Coates]

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 21:04, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:39, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> > Ok, thanks to Jack and Eric it works.  I did not read the instructions and
> > tried to start it with Xdm or Xtart.  I do not have kdm or gdm installed, so
> > I like the WMs that will allow me to change to another, until I decide which
> > one to settle on.  Right now I need a combo of blackbox and Ice, or if bb
> > just had a pager (found one, but you cannot change vdesktops with it).
> > 
> > I might like xfce4 if I can find the time to get menus in it.:-)
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> Since xfce (3.8) is in the contribs section for 9.1 I wonder if you
> installed it... then did the build / install from 4 over it if you would
> keep the menu's etc or not.
> 
> James
...

nope; there's a program called MenuMaker though that handles making
menus from the GNOME and KDE stuff for everything else. That's the
stopgap until XFce can implement the new freedesktop.org menu standard
(they're aiming for the 4.2 release).
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[James Sparenberg]

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:39, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> Ok, thanks to Jack and Eric it works.  I did not read the instructions and
> tried to start it with Xdm or Xtart.  I do not have kdm or gdm installed, so
> I like the WMs that will allow me to change to another, until I decide which
> one to settle on.  Right now I need a combo of blackbox and Ice, or if bb
> just had a pager (found one, but you cannot change vdesktops with it).
> 
> I might like xfce4 if I can find the time to get menus in it.:-)
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
Since xfce (3.8) is in the contribs section for 9.1 I wonder if you
installed it... then did the build / install from 4 over it if you would
keep the menu's etc or not.

James

> > > I've messed with XFCE, and it just didn't do it, but now 4 is out, I
> > > have to see if it will run under 9.2 Cooker.  
> > > 
> > > Tim
> > 
> > I've got three cooker systems and it runs a treat on all of them. Follow
> > the instructions here: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

Ok, thanks to Jack and Eric it works.  I did not read the instructions and
tried to start it with Xdm or Xtart.  I do not have kdm or gdm installed, so
I like the WMs that will allow me to change to another, until I decide which
one to settle on.  Right now I need a combo of blackbox and Ice, or if bb
just had a pager (found one, but you cannot change vdesktops with it).

I might like xfce4 if I can find the time to get menus in it.:-)

Tim


On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:51:24 -0700
Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 21:08, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> ...
> > I've messed with XFCE, and it just didn't do it, but now 4 is out, I
> > have to see if it will run under 9.2 Cooker.  
> > 
> > Tim
> 
> I've got three cooker systems and it runs a treat on all of them. Follow
> the instructions here: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/


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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[James Sparenberg]

On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 05:19, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 21:30, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Ok,
> > 
> > I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> > 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> > 
> > urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> > 
> > urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> > 
> > urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> > and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> > changes to accompany it as well.) 
> > 
> > urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> > 
> > why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> > place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> > etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> > 
> > urpmi kernel.
> > 
> I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
> going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.
> 
> The balance of my plan is as follows:
> 
> 1) remove all plf and Texstar packages

I did it by leaving them in.  Total of 4 pkgs had conflicts.  I then did
a rpm -Uvh --force on those and it was 100% successful. BTW there are
plf cooker rpms and you'll want those since they upgrade the plf apps
you already have.  I've done it on 3 boxes so far without any real
problems (a couple of .rpmnew files to move and a reboot, since I did
the kernel last.)
> 
> 2) urpmi.removemedia -a
> 
> 3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror

add contrib-cooker from the same server and plf's cooker mirror as well
as updates for 9.2 (cooker is frozen but a security hole is ssl was
fixed.)
> 
> 4) urpmi urpmi
> 
> 5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm

Don't do the --auto.  The reason is that some of the deps are met by 2
or 3 rpms and you will want to chose the one that fits your box the
best. 
> 
> 6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there

If you don't remove it and add the source first... no problem.  You'll
already have it.

> 
> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

He's already started *grin*.  
> 
> Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.

Since you already have the kernel you'll only need to restart X.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:19:06 -0400
Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

He has a few things already, check his website, mostly icons and themes.  He
stated in Cooker mail list that he would setup a hdlist.cz as soon as 9.2 is
officially released.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Greg Meyer]

On Sunday 12 October 2003 08:19, Greg Meyer wrote:

> > 
> I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
> going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.
> 
> The balance of my plan is as follows:
> 
> 1) remove all plf and Texstar packages
> 
> 2) urpmi.removemedia -a
> 
> 3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror
> 
> 4) urpmi urpmi
> 
> 5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm
> 
> 6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there
> 
> 7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2
> 
> Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.
> 
Okay, I'm back and everything looks like it went okay.  I have a few little 
tweaks to do, but other than that, I guess I'm on 9.2 now.
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Greg Meyer]

On Thursday 09 October 2003 21:30, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Ok,
> 
> I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> 
> urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> 
> urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> 
> urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> changes to accompany it as well.) 
> 
> urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> 
> why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> 
> urpmi kernel.
> 
I already have the new kernel running on my 9.1 install, and all seems to be 
going well.  Win4Lin is working and the nVidia drivers are installed.

The balance of my plan is as follows:

1) remove all plf and Texstar packages

2) urpmi.removemedia -a

3) urpmi.addmedia my local Cooker mirror

4) urpmi urpmi

5) urpmi --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm

6) Add back plf source and reinstall anything interesting from there

7) Wait for Tex to build cool stuff for 9.2

Hopefully, I won't even have to reboot.  I'll report back how it goes.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday October 9 2003 08:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> urpmi --auto-auto select --force
>
> why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over
> the place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the
> rest of plf etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4
> rpms.

   urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v

   The no verify part get around the signature deal. I prefer wget 
as it retries better than curl.  Unless you're positive the mirror 
you're usin is absolutely in order and up to date, --force could be 
a disaster.
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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Eric Huff]

> Well, Eric,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, XFCE4 installs just fine under Cooker 9.2, but
> it will not run.  I installed everything, Xtart cannot see it, it
> does not show up as a WM in any other WM menu.  I tried from a
> terminal within blackbox, I'm at a loss.  No error messages,
> nothing, just "command not found" even though slocate shows me
> where it is.

Strange. I actually don't use it much, but i just type startxfce4 at
the cli when booted at init 3.

I'm also using the last version of xfce4 (not the most recent ones).

If you want to try it more, the first step may be to boot init 3 and
startxfce4  (or just type start then TAB in case it is different
now).

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Jack Coates]

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 21:08, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
...
> I've messed with XFCE, and it just didn't do it, but now 4 is out, I have to
> see if it will run under 9.2 Cooker.  
> 
> Tim

I've got three cooker systems and it runs a treat on all of them. Follow
the instructions here: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:53:07 -0700
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz,
> > 512Mb RAM, I love the quickness of a simple WM.
> 
> Have you tried http://pekwm.org/  (my favorite) 
> XFCE4 (rpms at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ )  ?
> 
> They are also realy fast.  XFCE4 is more of a desktop, pekwm is just
> a wm.  A few people run XFCE4 with pekwm as their wm.

Well, Eric,

Thanks for the tip, XFCE4 installs just fine under Cooker 9.2, but it will
not run.  I installed everything, Xtart cannot see it, it does not show up
as a WM in any other WM menu.  I tried from a terminal within blackbox, I'm
at a loss.  No error messages, nothing, just "command not found" even though
slocate shows me where it is.

A well, found a nice gtk theme switcher that sylpheed and JPilot use nicely!

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:41:16 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 
> > I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz, 512Mb RAM,
> > I love the quickness of a simple WM.
> 
> True but a lot here do use kde.  one question why switch once you are in
> a window manager who ever sees the desktop *grin*
> 

Alt Shift F9 on icewm (minimize all)  ;) -- while doing file ops on a
well maintained file hierarchy is optimal on the command line, for
tidying clutter a good speedy GUI file manager like Rox Filer is hard to
beat. And the "desktop" concept as a place to dump things is not a bad
user interface (I just wish somebody would write a self-organizing one --
it's a shame that the technology of AI based user interfaces seems to
have stopped at Clippy. When I get some time...)

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 20:53:07 -0700
Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz,
> > 512Mb RAM, I love the quickness of a simple WM.
> 
> Have you tried http://pekwm.org/  (my favorite) 
> XFCE4 (rpms at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ )  ?
> 
> They are also realy fast.  XFCE4 is more of a desktop, pekwm is just
> a wm.  A few people run XFCE4 with pekwm as their wm.


I've messed with XFCE, and it just didn't do it, but now 4 is out, I have to
see if it will run under 9.2 Cooker.  

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Eric Huff]

> I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz,
> 512Mb RAM, I love the quickness of a simple WM.

Have you tried http://pekwm.org/  (my favorite) 
XFCE4 (rpms at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ )  ?

They are also realy fast.  XFCE4 is more of a desktop, pekwm is just
a wm.  A few people run XFCE4 with pekwm as their wm.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 20:11, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:30:13 -0700
> James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ok,
> > 
> > I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> > 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> 
> Just?!?!  :-)   I did this a few weeks, maybe a month ago after a
> posting on Distrowatch about this technique.  I had not found this list at
> the time.
> 
> > urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> > 
> > urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> > 
> > urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> > and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> > changes to accompany it as well.) 
> 
> I really recommend doing a uprmi.update -a at this point since the new urpmi
> and databases work a little differently.

forgot that one.  Tried it both ways and it made no difference but it's
not a bad idea. 
> 
>  
> > urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> > 
> > why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> > place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> > etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> 
> You can use the --no-verify-rpm switch as well.  I've found that using the
> --allow-force switch works better for me, since the dependencies can get
> funny with textar and plf rpms that might have a newer numbering than the
> 9.2 versions installing.
>  
> > urpmi kernel.
> > 
> >Basic rundown did it work.  Yes.  Was it quick ... no expect to let
> > the box run almost as long as it takes to download a single ISO.  Would
> > I recommend it to anyone but someone who knows MDK... NO I repeat NO.
> > Some rpms won't install because of conflicts with plf or texstar (I
> > forced those like kdebase and kdebase-common.)  You also need to know
> > that things like konsole are seperate and don't get installed here. So
> > it's not perfect but dang close. 
> 
> A couple other tricks, use telinit 3 to run from a console.  When it is all
> done, before you reboot, try "rpm -Va | grep miss" to see if any libraries
> are missing.  I actually had 3 consoles open doing this, with "radio"
> keeping me entertained.
> 
> 
> >Can it be done over the net YES.  I've done it twice that way.  Once
> > here at home (local simulation) and once to a box in a remote office for
> > someone.  Both times it worked and worked right. Both boxes worked
> > afterward and so far no real problems.  All configs etc are retained and
> > as such there was little if anything to do after.  I honestly don't like
> > the MDK kde as well as the texstar version (I lose the ability to do
> > full modifications of the panel as well as no randar support.) But it
> > does seem to start faster.  More to come.
> 
> I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz, 512Mb RAM,
> I love the quickness of a simple WM.

True but a lot here do use kde.  one question why switch once you are in
a window manager who ever sees the desktop *grin*

I did do the grep miss  what I found out was that I'd never logged
in graphically or directly as root.  No errors there on either box of
any real consequence 

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[Tim Sawchuck]

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:30:13 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok,
> 
> I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is

Just?!?!  :-)   I did this a few weeks, maybe a month ago after a
posting on Distrowatch about this technique.  I had not found this list at
the time.

> urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> 
> urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> 
> urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> changes to accompany it as well.) 

I really recommend doing a uprmi.update -a at this point since the new urpmi
and databases work a little differently.

 
> urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> 
> why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  

You can use the --no-verify-rpm switch as well.  I've found that using the
--allow-force switch works better for me, since the dependencies can get
funny with textar and plf rpms that might have a newer numbering than the
9.2 versions installing.
 
> urpmi kernel.
> 
>Basic rundown did it work.  Yes.  Was it quick ... no expect to let
> the box run almost as long as it takes to download a single ISO.  Would
> I recommend it to anyone but someone who knows MDK... NO I repeat NO.
> Some rpms won't install because of conflicts with plf or texstar (I
> forced those like kdebase and kdebase-common.)  You also need to know
> that things like konsole are seperate and don't get installed here. So
> it's not perfect but dang close. 

A couple other tricks, use telinit 3 to run from a console.  When it is all
done, before you reboot, try "rpm -Va | grep miss" to see if any libraries
are missing.  I actually had 3 consoles open doing this, with "radio"
keeping me entertained.


>Can it be done over the net YES.  I've done it twice that way.  Once
> here at home (local simulation) and once to a box in a remote office for
> someone.  Both times it worked and worked right. Both boxes worked
> afterward and so far no real problems.  All configs etc are retained and
> as such there was little if anything to do after.  I honestly don't like
> the MDK kde as well as the texstar version (I lose the ability to do
> full modifications of the panel as well as no randar support.) But it
> does seem to start faster.  More to come.

I keep jumping between BlackBox and IceWM.  Even on a P4 1.3GHz, 512Mb RAM,
I love the quickness of a simple WM.

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Re: [expert] urpmi and upgrades to 9.2

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 18:30, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Ok,
> 
> I'm just about to complete my second update from 9.1+plf+texstar to
> 9.2 via urpmi.  The order of march is
> 
> urpmi.removmedia -a (get rid of all current dbases)
> 
> urpmi.addmedia (added cooker cooker-contrib and plf-cooker)
> 
> urpmi urpmi (get the new urpmi first it's ability to download install
> and then download more is a big boon. But be prepared for a huge list of
> changes to accompany it as well.) 
> 
> urpmi --auto-auto select --force 
> 
> why the force ... because signatures in the cooker are all over the
> place, and plf cooker isn't signed with the same sig as the rest of plf
> etc etc and I got real tired of saying y every 3 or 4 rpms.  
> 
> urpmi kernel.
> 
>Basic rundown did it work.  Yes.  Was it quick ... no expect to let
> the box run almost as long as it takes to download a single ISO.  Would
> I recommend it to anyone but someone who knows MDK... NO I repeat NO.
> Some rpms won't install because of conflicts with plf or texstar (I
> forced those like kdebase and kdebase-common.)  You also need to know
> that things like konsole are seperate and don't get installed here. So
> it's not perfect but dang close. 
> 
>Can it be done over the net YES.  I've done it twice that way.  Once
> here at home (local simulation) and once to a box in a remote office for
> someone.  Both times it worked and worked right. Both boxes worked
> afterward and so far no real problems.  All configs etc are retained and
> as such there was little if anything to do after.  I honestly don't like
> the MDK kde as well as the texstar version (I lose the ability to do
> full modifications of the panel as well as no randar support.) But it
> does seem to start faster.  More to come.
> 
> James

Forgot to mention 2 things.  1.  The box seems to remain usable during
the upgrade process.  If an rpm fails to install due to conflict it's
retained in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and an rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm seems to
take care of the problem.

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[HaywireMac]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:14:07 +0100
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> And you can always read 
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi

ya, ya... 

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 29 Sep 2003 9:07 am, Charlie M. wrote:
> September 28, 2003 05:42 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:04:30 -0700
> >
> > James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > >With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way
> > > is to use
> > > the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time)
> > > it carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the
> > > commands for you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you
> > > ready to roll.)
> >
> > All this timewhy was it not added by default, esp to the
> > urpmi manpage?!
>
> Hay Macwire;
>
> Couldn't resist, sorry. ;)
>
> I don't believe that even most "cookers" know all the functions
> built into urpm. Somebody's supposed to be able to tell us about
> _other_ neat tools?
>
> I found it by accident when testing a 9.1 beta2 install and
> actually recommended it a few times here and on newbie. But
> everyone ignores me, rightfully so. (-:
>
> Not everything is in the urpm manpage still. That "document" may
> actually one day catch up with what's available, but I wouldn't bet
> the farm on it B.
>
> Besides, that kind of surprise is fun. 
>
> Charlie

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

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September 28, 2003 05:42 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:04:30 -0700
>
> James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> >With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to
> >use
> > the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> > carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> > you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)
>
> All this timewhy was it not added by default, esp to the urpmi
> manpage?!

Hay Macwire;

Couldn't resist, sorry. ;)

I don't believe that even most "cookers" know all the functions built into 
urpm. Somebody's supposed to be able to tell us about _other_ neat tools?

I found it by accident when testing a 9.1 beta2 install and actually 
recommended it a few times here and on newbie. But everyone ignores me, 
rightfully so. (-:

Not everything is in the urpm manpage still. That "document" may actually one 
day catch up with what's available, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it B.

Besides, that kind of surprise is fun. 

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[HaywireMac]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:22:09 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> > All this timewhy was it not added by default, esp to the urpmi
> > manpage?!
> 
> It really was a last minute add to 9.1, experimental in nature.  It's
> still got some limitations to keep it out of primetime (like you have
> to update the whole app if anything changes.) but it's a step in the
> right direction for sure.  btw it's not part of the default install
> either.

Gotcha.

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[James Sparenberg]

On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 04:42, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:04:30 -0700
> James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> >With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to
> >use
> > the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> > carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> > you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)
> 
> All this timewhy was it not added by default, esp to the urpmi
> manpage?!

It really was a last minute add to 9.1, experimental in nature.  It's
still got some limitations to keep it out of primetime (like you have to
update the whole app if anything changes.) but it's a step in the right
direction for sure.  btw it's not part of the default install either.

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Re: [expert] urpmi problems

[James Sparenberg]

On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 07:54, Leonardo Sá wrote:
> I've installed perl sources (5.8.1) in my system in order to compile the
> sympa mailing list system. The sympa and perl compilations went fine.
> But now, i'm getting the following message when i try to issue the
> "urpmi" command:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documents]# urpmi --help
> Can't locate urpm.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.1
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20.
> 
> What do i need to do in order to fix this?
> 
> Regards,
> Leonardo Sá


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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 09:58, Richard Bown wrote:
> Now thats what I call easy to use :))
> 
> Thanks
> On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 00:21, lorne wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:35 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > Tnx James I've loaded urpmi.setup,
> > > so now just gotta sort out how to use it, its the one without a man page
> > >
> > Go to this url! It will be your friend in gettins started!!
> > 
> > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php
> > 
There sure is something screwy going on, this is a virgin install, with
nothing downloaded yet.
MCC s/w update seems to give FTP Access denied which ever mirror I try.

After running urpmiweb, which at least downloaded the headers, the only
site which downloads is the PLF sites, albeit with signature failures.
Using the MCC s/w add and selecting the update repository, I'm getting
signature block failures.

As a fresh install I need to update K3B and cdrecord, as there are big
probs with K3B 0.8.1, I also need to update the kernel to at least
2.4.21-0.25mdk so win4lin can be run.
I do have a redhat rpm for K3B0.9 but it dos'nt update the toolbars, so
if the worst happens I could update that way.

Is anyone else getting probs like this ?
2 different PC both with MDK 9.1 one is from powerpack the other is the
download version, and at the moment I cant update either..
TIA 
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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[HaywireMac]

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:04:30 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

>With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to
>use
> the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)

All this timewhy was it not added by default, esp to the urpmi
manpage?!

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 12:21 am, lorne wrote:
> On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:35 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Tnx James I've loaded urpmi.setup,
> > so now just gotta sort out how to use it, its the one without a
> > man page
>
> Go to this url! It will be your friend in gettins started!!
>
> http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php
>
> If you have a way to look at the archives there is lots of info on
> it. urpmi is one of those diamonds in the rough. They are making it
> better, but has more polishing to do, but let me tell you, once you
> get it working for you, you will swear by it! No more Dependancies
> hell!
>
Also, try this page:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Richard Bown]

Now thats what I call easy to use :))

Thanks
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 00:21, lorne wrote:
> On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:35 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Tnx James I've loaded urpmi.setup,
> > so now just gotta sort out how to use it, its the one without a man page
> >
> Go to this url! It will be your friend in gettins started!!
> 
> http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php
> 
> If you have a way to look at the archives there is lots of info on it. urpmi 
> is one of those diamonds in the rough. They are making it better, but has 
> more polishing to do, but let me tell you, once you get it working for you, 
> you will swear by it! No more Dependancies hell!
> 
> > :(
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 22:04, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 13:17, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > > Not Sure Anne, from what Rolf says in another reply the url looks
> > > > incomplete.
> > > > What I cut and pasted was only a short command, I seem to remember they
> > > > were longer.
> > > >
> > > > They wer'nt even long enogth to use a whole line
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now I do have probs on my machine  with md5 and pgp sig checking, but
> > > > the other machine, was a fresh install and I need the update source put
> > > > in to upgrade the kernel.
> > > >
> > > > Could someone have a look at the club download thingy and see what they
> > > > think.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Richard
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > >With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to use
> > > the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> > > carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> > > you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> > > > > > MDK Club site.
> > > > > > If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> > > > > > always fails with the same thing.
> > > > > > Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> > > > > > Me confused
> > > > >
> > > > > Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are
> > > > > getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text
> > > > > editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where
> > > > > the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anne
> > >
> > > __
> > >
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> 
> 
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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[lorne]

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:35 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> Tnx James I've loaded urpmi.setup,
> so now just gotta sort out how to use it, its the one without a man page
>
Go to this url! It will be your friend in gettins started!!

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

If you have a way to look at the archives there is lots of info on it. urpmi 
is one of those diamonds in the rough. They are making it better, but has 
more polishing to do, but let me tell you, once you get it working for you, 
you will swear by it! No more Dependancies hell!

> :(
>
> Richard
>
> On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 22:04, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 13:17, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > Not Sure Anne, from what Rolf says in another reply the url looks
> > > incomplete.
> > > What I cut and pasted was only a short command, I seem to remember they
> > > were longer.
> > >
> > > They wer'nt even long enogth to use a whole line
> > >
> > >
> > > Now I do have probs on my machine  with md5 and pgp sig checking, but
> > > the other machine, was a fresh install and I need the update source put
> > > in to upgrade the kernel.
> > >
> > > Could someone have a look at the club download thingy and see what they
> > > think.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Richard
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> >With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to use
> > the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> > carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> > you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)
> >
> > James
> >
> > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> > > > > MDK Club site.
> > > > > If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> > > > > always fails with the same thing.
> > > > > Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> > > > > Me confused
> > > >
> > > > Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are
> > > > getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text
> > > > editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where
> > > > the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> >
> > __
> >
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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Richard Bown]

Tnx James I've loaded urpmi.setup, 
so now just gotta sort out how to use it, its the one without a man page
:(

Richard

On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 22:04, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 13:17, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Not Sure Anne, from what Rolf says in another reply the url looks
> > incomplete.
> > What I cut and pasted was only a short command, I seem to remember they
> > were longer.
> > 
> > They wer'nt even long enogth to use a whole line
> > 
> > 
> > Now I do have probs on my machine  with md5 and pgp sig checking, but
> > the other machine, was a fresh install and I need the update source put
> > in to upgrade the kernel.
> > 
> > Could someone have a look at the club download thingy and see what they
> > think.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > Richard
> 
> Richard,
> 
>With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to use
> the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
> carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
> you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)
> 
> James
> 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> > > > MDK Club site.
> > > > If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> > > > always fails with the same thing.
> > > > Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> > > > Me confused
> > > >
> > > Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are 
> > > getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text 
> > > editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where 
> > > the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.
> > > 
> > > Anne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[James Sparenberg]

On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 13:17, Richard Bown wrote:
> Not Sure Anne, from what Rolf says in another reply the url looks
> incomplete.
> What I cut and pasted was only a short command, I seem to remember they
> were longer.
> 
> They wer'nt even long enogth to use a whole line
> 
> 
> Now I do have probs on my machine  with md5 and pgp sig checking, but
> the other machine, was a fresh install and I need the update source put
> in to upgrade the kernel.
> 
> Could someone have a look at the club download thingy and see what they
> think.
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> Richard

Richard,

   With the exception of the paid for club the easy, fast, way is to use
the command urpmi.setup (available with 9.1 for the first time) it
carries all the same url's as easyurpmi site and does the commands for
you. (goes out grabs the hdlists and gets you ready to roll.)

James

> 
> On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> > > MDK Club site.
> > > If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> > > always fails with the same thing.
> > > Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> > > Me confused
> > >
> > Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are 
> > getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text 
> > editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where 
> > the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.
> > 
> > Anne


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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Richard Bown]

Not Sure Anne, from what Rolf says in another reply the url looks
incomplete.
What I cut and pasted was only a short command, I seem to remember they
were longer.

They wer'nt even long enogth to use a whole line


Now I do have probs on my machine  with md5 and pgp sig checking, but
the other machine, was a fresh install and I need the update source put
in to upgrade the kernel.

Could someone have a look at the club download thingy and see what they
think.


Thanks 
Richard

On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 19:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> > MDK Club site.
> > If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> > always fails with the same thing.
> > Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> > Me confused
> >
> Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are 
> getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text 
> editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where 
> the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.
> 
> Anne
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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 7:09 pm, Richard Bown wrote:
> Hi All,
> On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the
> MDK Club site.
> If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It
> always fails with the same thing.
> Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
> Me confused
>
Wild guess, Richard.  Could it be that in cut-and-pasting you are 
getting newline codes?  Sometimes it pays to paste into a text 
editor, undo line-wrap, delete any spaces that have appeared where 
the line wrapped, then paste that entry in.

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Re: [expert] urpmi addmedia

[Rolf Pedersen]

Richard Bown wrote:
Hi All,
On 2 different PC's both with MDK9.1 on I'm geeting a prob with the MDK
Club site.
If I cut and paste the urpmi media config command I get this, It always
fails with the same thing.
Different mirrors tried as well and all the selections .
Me confused
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# urpmi.addmedia -h mirrors.usc.edu_
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/
unable to take medium "contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1" into
account as no
 list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib_ftp.club-internet.fr_i586_9.1]
exists
[..]
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/hdlist2.cz
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "mirrors.usc.edu_"
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mirrors.usc.edu_.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "mirrors.usc.edu_"
unable to update medium "mirrors.usc.edu_"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]#


Any ideas 

TIA
Richard
For one thing, I pasted the url, 
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/, into my browser 
url bar and got a 'too many connections' error.  This will cause 
addmedia failures so you might want to do such a check.

Another thing is the url is too vague.  At least, in any case I have 
added a source, on command line or with software sources manager, the 
url/path has to be to some RPMS directory, i.e. the directory that 
contains the rpms.  If your browser test shows a server is accessible, 
drill down through the appropriate release and category directories 
until you get the url of the RPMS directory and try appending the rest 
of that url to the command.  I think there is a bug in the 
command-generating script at Club, perhaps.

It looks like a series of addmedia errors has left some crud in your 
database where no hdlists are being found.  Maybe you could 
urpmi.removemedia these sources to clean that up or use software sources 
manager to do that.

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Re: [expert] urpmi not reading Mandrake CDs properly

[Rob Blomquist]

On Monday 15 September 2003 07:05 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

> If you installed from all three CD's, you can update CD1 by using the
> name urpmi.update gives you for the first CD as the argument, with CD1
> in the reader.  Escape any spaces with a backslash:
>
> urpmi.update Installation\ CD\ 1

This did it. It allowed me to see that urpmi could not open /mnt/cdrom, as I 
had entered it as /mnt/cdrom/ in fstab. Removing the backslash got everything 
working and got wine installed.

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] urpmi not reading Mandrake CDs properly

[Rolf Pedersen]

Richard Urwin wrote:
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 6:04 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:

I am trying to install wine from my 9.1 CDs, which I believe are
properly burned, as I can read them in Konqueror.
Urpmi is ejecting the CD, and telling me that I need to install a
different cd. I am assuming that some configuration file is corrupt,
and I need to update urpmi for the CDs.
I tryed running urpmi.update, but I don't see how to update the
distrib CDs.
Any ideas?


9.0 to 9.1 update doesn't update the urpmi sources.

Richard, I'm surprised if that is the case.  Was there a bug in 9.1 that 
sources weren't updated during an upgrade?

Rob, did you upgrade to 9.1 or install?  With how many CD's?  When you 
do 'urpmi.update' without any source arguments, what is the list of 
sources urpmi expects you to specify one from?  Also, in the menu > 
Configuration > Packaging > Software Sources Manager, are all three CDs 
listed and enabled?

If you installed from all three CD's, you can update CD1 by using the 
name urpmi.update gives you for the first CD as the argument, with CD1 
in the reader.  Escape any spaces with a backslash:

urpmi.update Installation\ CD\ 1

You could repeat for the other CDs but leave CD1 in as this is the 
source of the package lists.  Another way might be to put CD1 in the 
reader and do:

urpmi.update -a

Also, you could press the 'Update' button in Software Sources Manager, 
put CD1 in the reader, and select which CD(s) to update.

If you installed from CD1 and want to add the others to sources, or the 
database has become broken, it is probably best to remove the CD sources 
in Software Sources Manager and add them back, with CD1 in the reader:

urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/

Adjust /mnt/cdrom to reflect your mount point.

As to the integrity of the burned CDs, there is a good method for this 
on the wiki, if you still have the isos.  The first step is to verify 
the isos with md5sum, then compare verified isos to the burned disk with 
Pierre Fortin's method here: 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/BadISOMd5sumNotAlways  If you 
don't have the isos, use the dd method and check the md5sum against the 
value in the file from the mirror.

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Re: [expert] urpmi not reading Mandrake CDs properly

[Richard Urwin]

On Monday 15 Sep 2003 6:04 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I am trying to install wine from my 9.1 CDs, which I believe are
> properly burned, as I can read them in Konqueror.
>
> Urpmi is ejecting the CD, and telling me that I need to install a
> different cd. I am assuming that some configuration file is corrupt,
> and I need to update urpmi for the CDs.
>
> I tryed running urpmi.update, but I don't see how to update the
> distrib CDs.
>
> Any ideas?

9.0 to 9.1 update doesn't update the urpmi sources.

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[David E. Fox]

> As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the 
> command line urpmi.addmedia.  It might help to replace the files you 

No, it shouldn't. I figured that it might be easier to add the
distribution media (actually replace them, based on new content) with
the media manager. I found that adding in the distribution media via
urpmi.addmedia will work, but it's failing on asking for a disk change,
see my other post to the list on this.

> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
> ?

Not relevant to my situation. It was missing directories. It sometimes
helps to do an strace if one comes across some sort of an error message
- it's usually going to offer a clue as to what files it's trying to
access at that point.

In my situation, the "urpmi database locked" comes from not being able
to access the directory /var/lib/urpmi. I created it manually, and it
works. But urpmi should have been able to detect the missing
files/directories and rebuild from scratch. It would have had to do this
following a new install.

> 
> Did you urpmi.removemedia -a
> ?

Yes, but not the way I should have -- I ended up just removing the 
/etc/urpmi files :(.  


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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[David E. Fox]

> Look for a lock file (.lck ?) probably in the same directory as the 
> urpmi sources or under /var. Then delete it.

Nothing there. Well, I fixed at least partially the problem by remaking
urpmi directories underneath /var/lib and /var/cache just to be on the
safe side. Adding distribution media was not too difficult but I'm not
sure I did it properly -- for instance, installing Open Office from the
9.1rc1 distribution media gave 'I can't find it" messages because many
of the base packages for that are on CD #2. It should have asked to
change disks, rather than have me redo the urpmi with cd#2 inserted.

I'm off to rebuild the rest of the urpmi database, thanks to
plf.zarb.org. Gotta love that site...

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[Richard Urwin]

On Monday 01 Sep 2003 10:03 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
> > >There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is
> > >fixed in an upcoming drakxtools:
> >
> > I see the problem, and the proposed fix. The issue now is a
> > catch-22 one.
> >
> > I can't add any sources, so I can't get the new patch to drakxtools
> > to add sources. See the problem?
>
> I am coming in really late here, but to add sources, can't you for
> the moment use mandrake control center?
>
> Or the command line with the help of
> http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php ?

Look for a lock file (.lck ?) probably in the same directory as the 
urpmi sources or under /var. Then delete it.

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[Rolf Pedersen]

dfox wrote:
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] urpmi lccked


There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is fixed
in an upcoming drakxtools:


I see the problem, and the proposed fix. The issue now is a catch-22 one.

I can't add any sources, so I can't get the new patch to drakxtools to add 
sources. See the problem?
As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the 
command line urpmi.addmedia.  It might help to replace the files you 
deleted with a reinstall of the package that owns them, if the 
urpmi.addmedia command doesn't generate them.

I attempted to do as you suggest but All that accomplishes is that it 
copies the names of the hdlists files over into /var/cache/urpmi/partial
and then fails with a 'urpmi database locked' --- how is it possible to 
unlock it? am i toast?

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
?
Did you urpmi.removemedia -a
?

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[Eric Huff]

> >There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is
> >fixed in an upcoming drakxtools:
> 
> I see the problem, and the proposed fix. The issue now is a catch-22
> one.
> 
> I can't add any sources, so I can't get the new patch to drakxtools to
> add sources. See the problem?

I am coming in really late here, but to add sources, can't you for the
moment use mandrake control center?

Or the command line with the help of
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php ?

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[dfox]

Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

>There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is fixed
>in an upcoming drakxtools:

I see the problem, and the proposed fix. The issue now is a catch-22 one.

I can't add any sources, so I can't get the new patch to drakxtools to add 
sources. See the problem?

I attempted to do as you suggest but All that accomplishes is that it 
copies the names of the hdlists files over into /var/cache/urpmi/partial
and then fails with a 'urpmi database locked' --- how is it possible to 
unlock it? am i toast?

>Rolf

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

[Rolf Pedersen]

David E. Fox wrote:
This just in 

9.2 rc1 cooker... the software manager seems to be broken, and I can't
add any sources - was trying to revamp the sources to include the new CDs 
as opposed to the old ones. Software Manager quietly dies after I tell it
where to go for the CD.

Also I tried to add in cooker main and contrib and can't get anywyere...
so I just removed /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/rurpmi etc. Now the whole urpmi 
subsystem is hosed. I just want to rebuild it from scratch, include 
main/contrib/plf as well as the local cd sources list but can't do any-
thing now as it just says the thing is locked

help

There is a problem with the gui frontend to urpmi.addmedia that is fixed 
in an upcoming drakxtools: 
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5083  Adding from the command 
line works.  You might try re-adding the CD sources with:

urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/

with the mount point adjusted to show your reader and CD1 loaded.  I 
would do urpmi.removemedia -a first to try to clean the slate.

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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[Praedor Atrebates]

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Thanks all, I am back in bi-ness with urpmi.  I deleted all my sources and 
re-set and updated the sources.  I then managed to get all the needed rpms 
downloaded and installed...though I find that the texstar rpms actually make 
my system SLOWER rather than faster (nor same speed).  There once was a time 
when texstar rpms were "super" optimized so that you might expect slightly 
better performance from them vs standard rpms, but no more, it seems.  Or, at 
least on my system - an ageing IBM stinkpad celery 366.  It takes LONGER for 
KDE to startup than with the original Mandrake updated KDE 3.1 rpms.  It 
takes LONGER for certain apps to start (kmail, konqueror, etc).  If it wasn't 
such a miserable pain, I would take them out and go back to the official 
Mandrake rpms but as 9.2 is so close to release, I will likely wait for it 
(and hope that KDE isn't slower still).  

praedor

On Thursday 28 August 2003 10:54 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
> > Have you tried just --auto --auto-select (using the /etc/urpmi/skiplist
> > to block anything you don't want.) This way it finds what it needs on
> > it's own.
>
> I'm experiencing the same problem.
>
> It started perhaps on Tuesday - and since then there hasn't been any
> updates supposedly in main or contrib - which I find extremely odd,
> since changelog is listing many listings.
>
> My take on this is that the mirror or source repository is out of sync
> with what you've downloaded, and somehow your system thinks the data is
> current when it isn't.
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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[David E. Fox]

> Changelog? Are you talking about Cooker/9.2, while Praedor is talking
> about 9.1 final? AFAICT, Texstar hasn't released any RPMs for Cooker.

9.2/cooker - here. I don't have texstar as a source. 

> 
> AIUI, both main and contrib are static repositories, whose contents do not

True for 9.1 - updates is a different repository.

As of 5:30am (god i'm up early) pdt 8/29, it's looking for a number of
roms - like libkdebase4-3.1.3-38mdk -- but AFAICT the mirror is
expecting a slightly different version of that RPM and as such cannot
install. urpmi prints out a number of ftp URLs with these RPMs but does
not download them and does not install them, and prints out a "you may
want to update your rpm database"

This happens from time to time, and it should sooner or later rectify
itself. As of 5:30 all I was able to update was plf. FWIW I use
ftp.surfnet.nl as my mirror.

If it doesn't get fixed, tnen you reset urpmi sources and start over 
afresh. I've had to do that a number of times.

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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 21:14, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:25, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > 
> > I am trying to update/upgrade my KDE to the texstar 3.1.3 rpms.  When I run 
> > "urpmi kdebase kdelib kdegraphics kdenetwork" it downloads about half of the 
> > required rpms (dependencies) but then craps out with:
> > 
> > Installation failed, some files are missing:
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmp3lame0-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-devel-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenslp1-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-devel-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/arts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-devel-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-devel-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mdkkdm-9.1-27mdk.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/liblm_sensors1-2.7.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-devel-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-common-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-devel-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openslp-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> > You may want to update your urpmi database
> > 
> > I DID update my database.  I just did it again, just now, and ran the same 
> > command again - yet I get the same mess above.  How do I get past this?  They 
> > MUST exist as it is in the list the urpmi itself generates based on what 
> > exists in the first place. 
> 
> Ooops sorry forgot one thing.  If the rpms are already on your box cp
> them to /var/cache/urpmi/rpms  otherwise urpmi won't find them.  
Not necessarily so, you can add a local source where ever you keep your
downloaded rpms, so at least in searches and installs and such, urpmi
finds the downloaded RPMs. I don't know how that works as far as
updating for security and bugfixes.


> > 
> > praedor
> > - -- 
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> > leaders.  That is easy.  All you have to do is tell them that they are being 
> > attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing 
> > the country to danger.  It works the same in any country."
> > - --Hermann Goering
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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[Bill Mullen]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, David E. Fox wrote:

> It started perhaps on Tuesday - and since then there hasn't been any
> updates supposedly in main or contrib - which I find extremely odd,
> since changelog is listing many listings.

Changelog? Are you talking about Cooker/9.2, while Praedor is talking
about 9.1 final? AFAICT, Texstar hasn't released any RPMs for Cooker.

AIUI, both main and contrib are static repositories, whose contents do not
change once the release is final. All the other urpmi sources will change
from time to time, but these two will not, and are "set in stone".

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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[David E. Fox]

> Have you tried just --auto --auto-select (using the /etc/urpmi/skiplist
> to block anything you don't want.) This way it finds what it needs on
> it's own.

I'm experiencing the same problem.

It started perhaps on Tuesday - and since then there hasn't been any
updates supposedly in main or contrib - which I find extremely odd,
since changelog is listing many listings.

My take on this is that the mirror or source repository is out of sync
with what you've downloaded, and somehow your system thinks the data is
current when it isn't.

Usually this goes away as things get synced up, but there are a number
of potential problems because it's left KDE (particularly) in an
unstable state because it cannot find many of the kde RPMs -- the
versions are out of synch. 

Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be anything in
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms, although it *looks* like some number of files got
downloaded, nothing seems to have been.


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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:25, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I am trying to update/upgrade my KDE to the texstar 3.1.3 rpms.  When I run 
> "urpmi kdebase kdelib kdegraphics kdenetwork" it downloads about half of the 
> required rpms (dependencies) but then craps out with:
> 
> Installation failed, some files are missing:
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmp3lame0-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-devel-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenslp1-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-devel-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/arts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-devel-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-devel-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mdkkdm-9.1-27mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/liblm_sensors1-2.7.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-devel-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-common-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-devel-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openslp-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> You may want to update your urpmi database
> 
> I DID update my database.  I just did it again, just now, and ran the same 
> command again - yet I get the same mess above.  How do I get past this?  They 
> MUST exist as it is in the list the urpmi itself generates based on what 
> exists in the first place. 

Ooops sorry forgot one thing.  If the rpms are already on your box cp
them to /var/cache/urpmi/rpms  otherwise urpmi won't find them.  
>  
> 
> praedor
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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:25, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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> I am trying to update/upgrade my KDE to the texstar 3.1.3 rpms.  When I run 
> "urpmi kdebase kdelib kdegraphics kdenetwork" it downloads about half of the 
> required rpms (dependencies) but then craps out with:
> 
> Installation failed, some files are missing:
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libmp3lame0-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-devel-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-kdm-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenslp1-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-devel-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/arts-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdegraphics-3.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-devel-3.1.3-2tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-devel-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mdkkdm-9.1-27mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/liblm_sensors1-2.7.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdelibs-common-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-4tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libarts-devel-1.1.3-1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-common-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libqt3-devel-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586.rpm
> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openslp-1.0.11-3.1tex.i586.rpm
> You may want to update your urpmi database
> 
> I DID update my database.  I just did it again, just now, and ran the same 
> command again - yet I get the same mess above.  How do I get past this?  They 
> MUST exist as it is in the list the urpmi itself generates based on what 
> exists in the first place.  

Have you tried just --auto --auto-select (using the /etc/urpmi/skiplist
to block anything you don't want.) This way it finds what it needs on
it's own.


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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

[Bill Mullen]

Praedor Atrebates said:

> I am trying to update/upgrade my KDE to the texstar 3.1.3 rpms.  When I
> run  "urpmi kdebase kdelib kdegraphics kdenetwork" it downloads about
> half of the  required rpms (dependencies) but then craps out with:
>
> Installation failed, some files are missing:
[snip]
> You may want to update your urpmi database
>
> I DID update my database.  I just did it again, just now, and ran the
> same  command again - yet I get the same mess above.  How do I get past
> this?  They  MUST exist as it is in the list the urpmi itself generates
> based on what  exists in the first place.

This is the error that urpmi always gives when it fails to find all of the
RPMs in the cache that it was expecting. This can be the result of one of
three factors - urpmi.update had not been run first (we can rule that one
out here), the RPM didn't exist on the server (unlikely, but it
occasionally happens when the hdlist.cz file on the server has not been
properly updated), or one or more of the download attempts failed.

This last is probably what happened here; as each download is a separate
access to the server, some of them may have occured at a moment when the
server had reached its maximum number of allowed clients, in which case
those connect attempts would have been rejected, while subsequent ones may
have succeeded just fine.

This behavior can be mitigated somewhat by using wget with urpmi, rather
than curl (which is urpmi's default downloader). Try:

urpmi --wget kdebase kdelib kdegraphics kdenetwork

You'll get more feedback on the connection process, so you'll be more able
to determine what's going wrong here. I have the urpmi command aliased to
"urpmi --wget" on my system, and urpmi.update is similarly aliased.

HTH!

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Re: [expert] urpmi dependancies issues?

[Charles A Edwards]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:27:52 -0400
"Albert E. Whale, CISSP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Besides that, the original Error was about the following:
> 
> The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
> bind-9.2.2-1mdk (due to conflicts with bind)
> caching-nameserver-9.0-2mdk (due to unsatisfied bind >=
> 9.2.0-0.a3.2mdk)

The Error is the reason I thought you might have a non 9.1 source.

The Only reason which would require urpmi to remove bind-9.2.2-1mdk
would be that you are requesting it to install Another pkg which either
'provides' bind or 'requires' a 2nd pkg which does so, but in either
case said pkg conflicts with the currently installed bind-9.2.2-1mdk.

You do not have to actually install them, but answer y rather than n to
the removal and then post the listing of the pkgs which will be
installed.

and Please remove the Reply To from your postings.
All replys should go back to the list Not to the posters address.


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Re: [expert] urpmi dependancies issues?

[Albert E. Whale, CISSP]

Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:38:19 -0400
"Albert E. Whale, CISSP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

what am I missing here?
   

Sounds like you have may have Sources other than for 9.1 defined.

   Charles

 

No, I don't have non 9.1 Sources listed.  Besides the Installation CDs, 
here are my other source definitions:

update_source 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS {
 hdlist: hdlist.update_source.cz
 with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
 update
}

contrib_mandrake.mirrors.pair.com_i586_9.1 
ftp://mandrake.mirrors.pair.com/mandrake/iso/../9.1/contrib/RPMS {
 hdlist: hdlist.contrib_mandrake.mirrors.pair.com_i586_9.1.cz
 with_hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
}

distrib_mirrors.secsup.org_i586_9.1 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/iso/../9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
{
 hdlist: hdlist.distrib_mirrors.secsup.org_i586_9.1.cz
 with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
}

Besides that, the original Error was about the following:

The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
bind-9.2.2-1mdk (due to conflicts with bind)
caching-nameserver-9.0-2mdk (due to unsatisfied bind >= 9.2.0-0.a3.2mdk)
I still think that this is a Problem with the recognition of Versioning 
within URPMI.  Not my selected Sources for URPMI.

Anyone else care to comment?  I think that the improvements in urpmi are 
Great, but I also think that there is another problem which needs to be 
resolved here.

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Re: [expert] urpmi force

[Sergio Javier Belkin]

Ohh, yes sorry! I've read the man surfacely and misunderstood that option

El Jue 07 Ago 2003 20:26, ed tharp escribió:
> On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:47, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> > Thank everybody!
>
> 'man urpmi' can be your friend too...
>
> > El Jue 07 Ago 2003 03:38, Tom Brinkman escribió:
> > > On Wednesday August 6 2003 11:12 pm, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> > > > There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed
> > > > with --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar
> > > > option for urpmi.
> > >
> > >  --allow-force, there's also --allow-nodeps
> > >
> > >   Use sparingly and with caution ;)

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Re: [expert] urpmi force

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:47, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> Thank everybody!


'man urpmi' can be your friend too...



> El Jue 07 Ago 2003 03:38, Tom Brinkman escribió:
> > On Wednesday August 6 2003 11:12 pm, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> > > There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed
> > > with --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar
> > > option for urpmi.
> >
> >  --allow-force, there's also --allow-nodeps
> >
> >   Use sparingly and with caution ;)


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Re: [expert] urpmi force

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday August 6 2003 11:12 pm, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed
> with --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar
> option for urpmi. 

 --allow-force, there's also --allow-nodeps

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Re: [expert] urpmi force

[Sergio Javier Belkin]

Thank everybody!
El Jue 07 Ago 2003 03:38, Tom Brinkman escribió:
> On Wednesday August 6 2003 11:12 pm, Sergio Javier Belkin wrote:
> > There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed
> > with --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar
> > option for urpmi.
>
>  --allow-force, there's also --allow-nodeps
>
>   Use sparingly and with caution ;)

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Re: [expert] urpmi force

[Steffen Barszus]

Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2003 01:12 schrieb Sergio Javier Belkin:
> There is a way to install a rpm even if it is already installed with
> --force when using rpm, but the question is exists a similar option for
> urpmi. Thanks in advance and please Don't pay atention to the absurd
> SCO's claims!

try  --allow-force as option  to urpmi. :)

HTH 

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Re: [expert] urpmi: weird behaviour

[Steffen Barszus]

Am Freitag, 1. August 2003 16:22 schrieb Sergio Javier Belkin:
> When I use urpmi, the cd start to sound, it's very strange, Do somebody
> know why?


Its a bug in urpmi. I think it should be fixed in the urpmi update, but I may 
be false here. 

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Re: [expert] urpmi and other ftp sites....

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 23:21, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I am wondering if urpmi can be set to run for sites other than the normal 
> Mandrake sites?
> 
> It seems that there needs to be files on sites that are setup for urpmi to 
> connect with them.
> 
> Are there any others that you all recommend over the standard set: contrib, 
> texstar, updates, main, plf, club_comm?


I always add a folder on my hard drive, so I can download rpms to that
folder. you have to "update" the folder so the urpmi database knows they
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Re: [expert] urpmi error

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>(ftp1u)" into account as no list file
>[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
>(ftp1u)] exists
>the entry to update is missing

It's telling you "I see a file in /var/lib/urpmi that looks like it
should be a source, but it's not in your config file
/etc/urpmi/urpmi.conf."  That's all.  The urpmi subsystem is still
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Re: [expert] urpmi error

[Tru64 User]

--- Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have to give the name of a source to update or
> the -a switch to 
> update all.  Since you will not need to update the
> removable media, you 
> would probably want something like:
> 
> urpmi.update update_source
> 
> for example.  You might want to remove the 'Udates
> for Mandrake Linux 
> 8.2' source in the 'Manage Sources' part of
> rpmdrake.  Presumably, 
> update_source provides your security updates.
> 
> Rolf
> 
> Rolf

It errors out same way regardless of command:

# urpmi.update -a
unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)" into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)] exists
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 Download
Edition Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
unable to uncompress synthesis file at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 869.

#urpmi.update update_source
unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)" into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)] exists
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 Download
Edition Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
unable to uncompress synthesis file at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 869.


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Re: [expert] urpmi error

[Rolf Pedersen]

Tru64 User wrote:
--- Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You have to give the name of a source to update or
the -a switch to 
update all.  Since you will not need to update the
removable media, you 
would probably want something like:

urpmi.update update_source

for example.  You might want to remove the 'Udates
for Mandrake Linux 
8.2' source in the 'Manage Sources' part of
rpmdrake.  Presumably, 
update_source provides your security updates.

Rolf

Rolf


It errors out same way regardless of command:

# urpmi.update -a
unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)" into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)] exists
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 Download
Edition Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
unable to uncompress synthesis file at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 869.
#urpmi.update update_source
unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)" into account as no list file
[/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2
(ftp1u)] exists
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 Download
Edition Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
unable to uncompress synthesis file at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 869.
I don't know, it appears you may have multiple sources of error.  That 
file, urpm.pm belongs to urpmi and, although I don't think this is one 
likely problem, you could see if the package has been corrupted with:

rpm -V urpmi

Otherwise, it looks like some files have been deleted or corrupted. 
Have you been deleting files?  Is a hard drive going bad or has a bad 
shutdown caused corruption?  You seem to have configured a lot of 
sources:  (ftp1u) (one of disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86)
(cdrom1), disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation
CD (x86) (cdrom2), disc 3 Download Edition
Contributions CD (x86) (cdrom3), disc 3 Download
Edition Contributions CD (x86) (cdrom4),
mirrors.secsup.org, update_source, downloads)  and there is a, 
seemingly, redundant source for updates: ftp1u or update_source.

I have recovered from accidental deletion of files by deleting and 
re-adding sources but I don't know well enough what is the situation on 
your box.  Some suggestions:

Do urpmi.removemedia -a and start over.  You can add them by hand in the 
'manage sources' module of rpmdrake, or whatever it is, that has been a 
while ago.  Just give CD1, CD2, etc for the name, the path is to the 
RPMS directory when the disk is in the reader, and relative path to 
hdlist is ../base/hdlist.cz, ../base/hdlist2.cz, etc.  Add each with CD1 
in the drive as all the hdlist.cz's are on CD1 and verify the names of 
the files.

In 9.1, I don't know about 8.2, you can add all the install source CD's 
with one command, with CD1 in the reader:
urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom/

adjust the path to reflect what you have for a reader mount point.

Also, you might try removing the CD1 source (plus ftp1u) then re-adding 
it only with sources manager, since that gives the error.  However, it 
might be the first of a string of failures.

Once you've got the install sources added, you can add an update_source 
with MandrakeUpdate or the sources manager, plus configure additional 
8.2 sources here:  http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/

These are just general suggestions as I can't imagine the state of your 
machine.  See man urpmi, urpmi.addmedia, et al.

Rolf


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