[FairfieldLife] OT Peshitta!
http://www.peshitta.org/initial/peshitta.html The Peshitta is the official Bible of the Church of the East. The name Peshitta in Aramaic means "Straight", in other words, the original and pure New Testament. The Peshitta is the only authentic and pure text which contains the books in the New Testament that were written in Aramaic, the Language of Mshikha (the Messiah) and His Disciples. In reference to the originality of the Peshitta, the words of His Holiness Mar Eshai Shimun, Catholicos Patriarch of the Church of the East, are summarized as follows: "With reference tothe originality of the Peshitta text, as the Patriarch and Head of the Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church of the East, we wish to state, that the Church of the East received the scriptures from the hands of the blessed Apostles themselves in the Aramaic original, the language spoken by our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and that the Peshitta is the text of the Church of the East which has come down from the Biblical times without any change or revision." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Santayana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The world is not respectable; it is mortal, tormented, confused, > > deluded forever; but it is shot through with beauty, with love, > > with glints of courage and laughter; and in these, the spirit > > blooms timidly, and struggles to the light amid the thorns. > > > > -George Santayana > > A Beautiful quote to be sure! And even if it weren't it would be a pleasant alternative to the I'm-right-you're-wrong egofest that's put a cramp in my Delete key finger this morning. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Brits Devolving To Ape-Men/Ape-Women'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050826/ap_on_fe_st/britain_human_zoo_3 The French would probably have titled this, "British reach higher step in evolution." :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bevan and John Confronting Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/25/05 12:35 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Well said. I finally saw that the emperor's new clothes were > > > not what I wanted to believe and left. It took nearly 30 more > > > years before I > > > found someone who embodied the wisdom I had only read about. > > > > Who? > > Y'know, Rick, I have thought about this and thought. If I give > you a name, it won't be important. What is important is to find > a way to be very aware of exactly what you are experiencing, > right now. > > It is important to be very open to what you hear, see, feel, > experience, sense and then to not let that go until you have > seen it for what it is. > > Sorry. It's the best I can do. > > Sometimes, at least for me, it is a matter of comparing what I > learned from and about MMY/MCS/MPV/BBM (so many names for one > little man) and then comparing that with what I know about myself, > what I have learned since those days when the Emperor's new > clothes were seen, suddenly, one day, just as they were. > > It is important to keep moving on. When you think you are there, > when you think "this is it", well, it may be close and it may be > important, but you are it and thinking somthing outside yourself > is it is missing the point. Well, and gracefully, said. It ties in well with what I found myself laughing about this morning as I woke up. (I love waking myself up with laughter.) I was thinking back on all these dis- cussions here lately of what constitutes a "real" teacher, and I found myself remembering P. J. O'Rourke's marvelous one-liner about responsibility: "One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license." What made me laugh was the realization that in MOST of the discussions one finds on the Internet about what constitutes a "real" teacher, the definition is usually, "Mine." :-) You gracefully avoided that, and came up with a better definition: "You, as long as you keep learning." Unc - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortality Hormone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > washingtonpost.com > > > Life-Lengthening Hormone Found in Mouse Research > > > > Is this an important topic to you, personally? > > I have an interest in the topic, and more broadly, genetic research. Too bad you didn't just say "Yes." It would have been fun to read the subsequent lecture. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortality Hormone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > washingtonpost.com > > Life-Lengthening Hormone Found in Mouse Research > > Is this an important topic to you, personally? I have an interest in the topic, and more broadly, genetic research. Given that immortality has been a topic in the TMO, I thought there might be some interest to the group that there appears to be a physiological mechanism that could potentially extend life substantially. It made me wonder if some ayurvedic or related herbs / procedures may have tapped into a way to make the body produce this hormone. Is this an important topic to you, personally? If so, why not state why and engage readers in a diologue. If not, why make a post? Other than to make a point i suppose. If thats the case, why not state your point upfront? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vlodrop report from a Purusha
Sounds like he had a great time. Very enjoyably written. What tangible results do these guys feel they have created? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortality Hormone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > washingtonpost.com > Life-Lengthening Hormone Found in Mouse Research Is this an important topic to you, personally? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Vlodrop report from a Purusha
Title: Vlodrop report from a Purusha The person who wrote this refers to Lake Tahoe and Seelisberg, so it might be David Vedovi or Bob Cranson: Dear Friends, I went to Holland for Guru Purnima, with most of our North Carolina group, and most of us stayed on for close to a month, returning just over a week ago. Our trip came as a last-minute surprise, which is why I disappeared without warning. Being around Maharishi was as evolutionary as it's ever been. More so! Even though no one seems to get to see him in person any more, it doesn't matter. He is as attentive to every individual and every detail as he's always been, and much less cautious about what he'll say, to whom. These weeks were a refresher course in how he works, how he thinks. I think it was a great reminder and a great inspiration to everyone who attended, to see that he's still every bit the master and the mastermind. The whole experience was great. Even being tripled up in little trailers in a vacation water park full of young children and teenagers for the first and last weeks proved okay, partly because we were never around the park during the daytime, and partly because I lucked out nicely on my roommates -- which luck lasted throughout the entire three-plus weeks. Our meals and programs were all in tents beside the main building at Meru -- or, more romantically, "pavilions." For tents, these were pretty serious structures, of serious size, with solid floors, high ceilings, glass doors and windows, chandeliers (in the dining tent, anyway), air handlers, carpeting, and vestibules that afforded good protection from the frequent rain as we stood in line for food, and good protection for our shoes as they waited at the door for us to finish meditating. Purusha and Mother Divine were fortunate to have actual program tents, in addition to dining tents. Most conference participants, during the first five days of maximum attendance, had to do their program sitting in chairs in their dining/meeting tents. But no one seemed to be complaining. We rarely glimpsed Mother Divine, partly because their tents were separate, away from the rest of the conference -- but we saw plenty of other folks, starting with the catering company handling our meals. It was odd to have waiters and especially waitresses, but we all adapted. The catering staff were mostly college students, generally from somewhere in Germany's East. They were pretty normal students, although either being German or wearing uniforms (or both) gave them a good, efficient, professional air. One of our guys struck up a conversation with one of their guys, and found he was a psychology student who, in the student's words, was spending the summer "studying human behavior." No lack of material for him! Our dining and program tents were right in the traffic flow to the main dining and meeting tents, so frequent encounters with non-Purusha friends were inevitable. But surprisingly little socializing went on, beyond that. In fact, several of you may even have been there, without my ever seeing you. If I passed you with a blank stare (which I did to at least one of my dear friends, who eventually brought it to my attention), it's not that I was trying to ignore you! My attention just seemed more settled, less "outward" than it's been in the past. It wasn't that we were read the riot act about socializing, or anything like that. Purusha just seems to be maturing nicely into what Maharishi has always wanted us to be: self-referral, self-sufficient and "on the program." Nonetheless, it was wonderful to run into old friends, including some from distant corners of the world whom I hadn't seen in twenty years -- SO wonderful! If we had followed the schedule that everyone else was on, though, we sure wouldn't have been on the program, or at least not on our usual program. Meetings regularly ran from 1:30 - 6:00 pm, then recommenced after supper, around 9:00 -- which was about the time Purusha was boarding buses for our somewhat distant quarters. I never asked anyone how late the meetings went. We stayed as close to our regular program schedule as possible, although having close to an hour's drive to our housing kind of demolished any possibility of a 10 o'clock bedtime. As far as the meetings went, Maharishi was right there, all day, every day, sometimes on screen and sometimes only connected by voice. He did a lot of listening and watching, and a lot of commenting when circumstances called for it. It took me back to my Lake Tahoe days in the fall of 1972 and later ones on the shores of Lake Lucerne, watching and listening as Maharishi demonstrated his incredible capacity for planning, composing, editing, administering, molding, guiding, inspiring, correcting, etc., both on a global level and at the tiniest point values. He made it very, very clear that he's fully connected to what's going on in his Movement and to what's going on in the rest of world; and that h
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reconstructing the World
1400 fortunate people attended Maharishi's Guru Purnima Celebration this year in Meru, > Holland. The event far exceeded anyone's expectations. It was as if Maharishi was offering > the lives of everyone there to the lotus feet of Guru Dev. It felt and looked like Heaven on > Earth. There were beautiful white tents everywhere, the kind used for Presidential > inaugurations, decorated with red carpets, chandeliers, comfortable red velvet chairs, and > banquet halls filled with a variety of dishes and desserts served by professional caterers. That's old school. To be sure. lurk > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Immortality Hormone
washingtonpost.com Life-Lengthening Hormone Found in Mouse Research By Rob Stein Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, August 26, 2005; A01 Scientists have identified a hormone that significantly extends the life span of mice, a discovery that could mark a crucial step toward developing drugs that boost longevity in people. The hormone is the first substance identified that is produced naturally in mammals, including humans, and can extend life span -- a long-sought goal in the intense effort to help people live longer. Much more work is needed to study the substance, and investigate whether the hormone or a similar compound would be effective and safe in people, experts cautioned. But the discovery opens highly promising avenues for research and provides tantalizing new clues toward deciphering the basic biology of aging. "This is a significant discovery. It's an exciting paper," said Anna McCormick of the National Institute on Aging, which helped fund the new research, published online yesterday by the journal Science. "It's definitely the way you would go about designing molecules that would promote healthy aging and longevity in people." Makoto Kuro-o of the University of Texas's Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, who led the research, said, "This could provide a key to understanding the molecular mechanisms of aging and opens up new areas to the potential therapy for multiple age-related diseases in humans." The discovery was triggered by a study Kuro-o and his colleagues published in 1997. That study identified a gene in mice that, when damaged, caused the animals to experience all the hallmarks of aging in humans -- hardening of the arteries, thinning bones, withered skin, weak lungs -- and to die prematurely. They dubbed the gene Klotho, for the Greek goddess who spins the thread of life. Suspecting the gene may play a role in regulating life span, Kuro-o and his colleagues genetically engineered mice with overactive Klotho genes. In the latest experiments, they found that these animals lived an average of 20 to 30 percent longer than normal -- 2.4 to 2.6 years vs. a normal life span of about two years -- without any signs of ill effects, according to the new report. "The extension of life span is widely accepted as a reliable marker for the suppression of aging," Kuro-o said. "This shows the Klotho gene regulates aging." The researchers then identified a small protein component, called a peptide, that the gene produces and found it circulating in the animals' blood at double the normal level. After isolating and purifying the substance and reproducing it through genetic engineering techniques, the researchers injected the substance into normal mice. Tests on those animals, combined with experiments involving cells in the laboratory, indicate that the substance modulates a crucial biological pathway involved in an array of basic metabolic functions that has become the focus of aging research in recent years. "It's a pathway that has been conserved by evolution that has been found to play a key role in regulating life span for flies, worms, mice and probably humans," Kuro-o said. Studies, for example, suggest that damping down this pathway -- known as the insulin/insulin-like growth factor-1 signaling pathway -- may be the mechanism that extends longevity in animals that are fed an ultra-low-calorie diet. The Klotho hormone appears to have a similar effect, Kuro-o said. "Our work shows that the Klotho gene is an aging-suppressor gene," he said. Other researchers said the findings were remarkable because no one had previously found a naturally occurring hormone capable of extending the life span of a mammal. "You have lots of ways to shorten the life of an animal, but it's hard to get an animal to live longer," said George M. Martin of the University of Washington, who is scientific director of the American Federation for Aging Research. "You can kick a radio to make it not work so well, but it's hard to make it work better. It's quite a wonderful discovery." Kuro-o and his colleagues plan to inject the substance into normal mice to see whether it extends their life spans and to measure the substance in humans to determine whether levels of the protein are correlated with longevity. Previous research has shown that humans have the protein in their blood, and that people with a certain variation of the gene are prone to age-related diseases such as heart attacks, strokes and osteoporosis. Scientists will have to determine whether the protein can be produced in sufficient quantities to use it as a drug. It may turn out that other substances that mimic the protein's effects would also work or be safer, Kuro-o said. "That might be more practical," he said. Kuro-o and others cautioned, however, that agents that appear effective and safe in mice often produce complications in humans. The hormone, for example, appears to decrease the effectiveness of insulin, which could limit its use
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Correction: by "you" I meant "sparaig" not Judy (although Judy > is > > > certainly under suspicion). > > > > As I said, I appreciate your concerns. Do you have a specific cult > > deprogrammer in mind for me to consult? > > > > Stick around here and keep interacting with me...I am the ideal > deprogrammer for you because I do TM and you don't have to worry > that you'll lose your ability to do TM regularly...just the cult > indoctrination... > > Thanks for your concern... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Correction: by "you" I meant "sparaig" not Judy (although Judy is > > certainly under suspicion). > > As I said, I appreciate your concerns. Do you have a specific cult > deprogrammer in mind for me to consult? Stick around here and keep interacting with me...I am the ideal deprogrammer for you because I do TM and you don't have to worry that you'll lose your ability to do TM regularly...just the cult indoctrination... > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- > > maybe > > > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the > pronouncements > > > of > > > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM > > Program. > > > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for > > TM > > > to > > > > > work... > > > > > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > > > of constantly. > > > > > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you > simply > > > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > > degrees > > > were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as > > > a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that > puts > > > you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > > > > > In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > > > > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > > > > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > > > > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- > > maybe > > > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the > pronouncements > > > of > > > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM > > Program. > > > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for > TM > > > to > > > > > work... > > > > > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > > > of constantly. > > > > > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you > simply > > > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > > > degrees were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to > him > > > as a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that > > > puts you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > > > Actually it's a "blind un-believer" trait not > > to be able to consider Nader's degrees separately > > from his "king" title. > > May I ask you something, Judy: > > You are down on record as stating that you believe the whole "Nader > getting his weight in gold" episode was a publicity stunt. > > Would you please be kind enough to tell me whether each of the > following were publicity stunts, too? (a simple "yes" or "no" beside > each one would suffice...) ALL of the following have a "Publicity Stunt" component. Just about everything MMY has ever done, at least that gets mention in the press, has such a component. Why else get it mentioned in the press? > > Naming Tony Nader as "King". > > Naming a whole bunch of Movement people as "kings" or, > rather "Rajas". > > Calling for a $600 billion bond issue for Maharishi Vedic > Agriculture. > > Praising dictators Castro and Mugabe. > > Condemning Britain as a "scorpion nation" and ceasing all teaching > of TM there. > > Declaring that all bad things in the world come from the U.S. > > Damning Democracy. > > Declaring that Israel are "murderers" (sic). > > Calling for the building of the world's tallest office tower. > > Creating the National Law Party. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > of > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM > to > > > work... > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > of constantly. > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's degrees > were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as > a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that puts > you in the "blind believer" category for me. Actually, I'm the one that refered to him as "king." If you think I seriously consider him to be a "king," then you have evenmore problems than I thought before. > > In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > Why, thanks. Care to recommend anyone? > > > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correction: by "you" I meant "sparaig" not Judy (although Judy is > certainly under suspicion). As I said, I appreciate your concerns. Do you have a specific cult deprogrammer in mind for me to consult? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- > maybe > > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > > of > > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM > Program. > > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for > TM > > to > > > > work... > > > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > > of constantly. > > > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > degrees > > were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as > > a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that puts > > you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > > > In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > > > > > > > > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > > > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > > > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > > > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements of > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM to > > work... > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > of constantly. > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > pathological. This is yet another example: when > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > direction. That's normal. It's called "reaction formation," I think. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MUM's message to alumni
From: Jennine Fellmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:06:40 PM PDT Subject: Reconstructing the World Dear Alumni and Friends, 1400 fortunate people attended Maharishi's Guru Purnima Celebration this year in Meru, Holland. The event far exceeded anyone's expectations. It was as if Maharishi was offering the lives of everyone there to the lotus feet of Guru Dev. It felt and looked like Heaven on Earth. There were beautiful white tents everywhere, the kind used for Presidential inaugurations, decorated with red carpets, chandeliers, comfortable red velvet chairs, and banquet halls filled with a variety of dishes and desserts served by professional caterers. Outside raised walkways were constructed between the tents, covered in green carpet and decorated with small flowering trees. In the central area a pond was created with flowers floating on the water. Children collected precious stones around the grounds and greeted you at the dining entrance with their colorful displays. At around 3:30 or 4:00 each afternoon a variety of delicious Indian treats and snacks were distributed in all the tents. All the Rajas sat with His Majesty MahaRaj Nadar Raam, and the Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, our dear President Dr. Bevan Morris, and other Ministers each day discussing the implementation of Maharishi's programs around the world. Maharishi frequently remarked how wonderful it was to sit and think globally with our world family. During the Guru Purnima Day Maharishi instructed Bevan to tell people where we stand in time. The year is 1,955,855,107. Another perspective is Yudisthir of the Pandavas which is the year 5,143. In Shankar Samvatsar, time since Ati Shankaracharya established the four Mats, the Northern Mat - Jyotir Mat, the time counted from him is year 2,513. And then Maharishi Samvatsar is year 50. It was during this day that Maharishi launched his Global Reconstruction Program and invited builders in every country to begin building Peace Colonies in every city composed of "fortune- creating" homes, and Peace Palaces, where Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation and other Vedic-science-based programs will be taught to promote enlightenment for the individual and permanent peace for the world. Many of Europe's top builders came to the Rajas Tent to meet with the Rajas and His Excellency Dr. Eike Hartmann to commit their time and resources toward this project. During this week's Global Press Conference, Bevan gave a beautiful summary of Maharishi's desires for the world that were laid out during the Guru Purnima celebration. He said that globally we want a grand unified world. This hope has come in the midst of Maharishi's analysis of the history of the world. Government is based upon man-made laws instead of the laws that run the universe - the Constitution of the Universe. The result is a never-ending search for a better administration. The present system of government, democracy, has proven to be a divider of nations and a failure to provide solutions to the problems and suffering of society. Yet when we speak to governments and show them using scientific evidence how that system is failing, they have deaf ears. Maharishi explains that these leaders have subjected themselves to drugs, alcohol, poisonous foods and medications. In addition, the buildings where they reside and work are damaging to their fortune, clarity of thought, and ability to understand. Maharishi says it is like they are running into a fire and he is telling them don't do it, don't run into the gates of hell. But this is related to the destiny of the world -as you sow, so shall you reap. Maharishi has always done what ever he can to help change that. 50 years ago he started teaching the Transcendental Meditation program to the entire human race so that every adult and student can experience all possibilities in their own awareness. This experience alone awakens the total functioning of the brain. >From our own experience as alumni, we know habituating our self to that unbounded ocean of consciousness, the field in which the whole universe is floating, creates the most powerful thinking. With more and more people learning Transcendental Meditation and the TM-Sidhi program the coherence in national consciousness will raise to a level where government leaders will begin to make better decisions. But the other thing Maharishi is focusing on and he invites us to help is to reconstruct the world according to the principals of Vedic Architecture in harmony with Natural Law (www.GlobalReconstruction.org). Build everyone a lucky house, a house that promotes good fortune and will transform the lives of the people in these houses. When a house is not built according to the proper cardinal directions aligned to true north, south, east, west, then wrong layout of a home offends the harmony of nature. When every day you offend the harmony of natu
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > > > > > way to make me the bad guy. > > > > > > > > Sorry. Not my intention. I'll go back to keeping my > observations > > > > to myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you. > > > > > > It's not just you. It's been a trend here for > > > awhile now. > > > > > > And it doesn't do *me* any harm. I'm just pointing > > > it out. I think it's amusing. > > > > If you thought it amusing then you wouldn't have gone out of your > > way to point out in the paranoid, I'm-the-victim, why-is- everyone > > persecuting-me tone that you did that you thought you were being > > singled out as "the bad guy." > > You sure are reading a lot into my words. I don't think I am but we'll let the readers on this forum decide for themselves... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- > maybe > > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > > of > > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM > Program. > > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM > > to > > > > work... > > > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > > of constantly. > > > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > > degrees were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him > > as a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that > > puts you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > Actually it's a "blind un-believer" trait not > to be able to consider Nader's degrees separately > from his "king" title. May I ask you something, Judy: You are down on record as stating that you believe the whole "Nader getting his weight in gold" episode was a publicity stunt. Would you please be kind enough to tell me whether each of the following were publicity stunts, too? (a simple "yes" or "no" beside each one would suffice...) Naming Tony Nader as "King". Naming a whole bunch of Movement people as "kings" or, rather "Rajas". Calling for a $600 billion bond issue for Maharishi Vedic Agriculture. Praising dictators Castro and Mugabe. Condemning Britain as a "scorpion nation" and ceasing all teaching of TM there. Declaring that all bad things in the world come from the U.S. Damning Democracy. Declaring that Israel are "murderers" (sic). Calling for the building of the world's tallest office tower. Creating the National Law Party. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > > > > way to make me the bad guy. > > > > > > Sorry. Not my intention. I'll go back to keeping my observations > > > to myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you. > > > > It's not just you. It's been a trend here for > > awhile now. > > > > And it doesn't do *me* any harm. I'm just pointing > > it out. I think it's amusing. > > If you thought it amusing then you wouldn't have gone out of your > way to point out in the paranoid, I'm-the-victim, why-is-everyone > persecuting-me tone that you did that you thought you were being > singled out as "the bad guy." You sure are reading a lot into my words. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > of > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM > to > > > work... > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > of constantly. > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > degrees were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him > as a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that > puts you in the "blind believer" category for me. Actually it's a "blind un-believer" trait not to be able to consider Nader's degrees separately from his "king" title. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > > > way to make me the bad guy. > > > > Sorry. Not my intention. I'll go back to keeping my observations > > to myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you. > > It's not just you. It's been a trend here for > awhile now. > > And it doesn't do *me* any harm. I'm just pointing > it out. I think it's amusing. If you thought it amusing then you wouldn't have gone out of your way to point out in the paranoid, I'm-the-victim, why-is-everyone persecuting-me tone that you did that you thought you were being singled out as "the bad guy." Instead, you would have just laughed and maybe put a "-)" beside his comment and moved on... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correction: by "you" I meant "sparaig" not Judy Speaking of blindness... (although Judy is > certainly under suspicion). > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- > maybe > > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > > of > > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM > Program. > > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for > TM > > to > > > > work... > > > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > > of constantly. > > > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's > degrees > > were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as > > a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that puts > > you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > > > In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > > > > > > > > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > > > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > > > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > > > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > "A casino in Vegas"... > > > > > > > > I rest my case. > > > > > > And a major New York City church, > > > > > > Churches have always got away with marginal stuff such as bingo > games > > and "Las Vegas Nights" because it is for "a good cause" and > everyone > > looks the other way, both from a legal and credibility standpoint. > > > > > > and a presidential > > > candidate. > > > > > > Dennis Kuchinich is a borderline Marxist nutcase who garnered very > > little support from the Democratic Party grassroots during the > > presidential primaries...so there's no credibility there to speak > > of...and if there was ever something that would make that point > more > > evident to the mainstream there's that wee little fact that he > > actually got endorsed by John Hagelin! > > You're missing the point. Never mind. Okay, Emily Litella. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > > way to make me the bad guy. > > Sorry. Not my intention. I'll go back to keeping my observations > to myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you. It's not just you. It's been a trend here for awhile now. And it doesn't do *me* any harm. I'm just pointing it out. I think it's amusing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus = Shiva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shiva brings light at the finest level of creation; in the darkest place. > So, there you have it. > Indra likes to make sparks, apparently. > Krishna likes to maintain the purity of everything. > Brahm likes to create. > > off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My armchair theory has always been that Shiva may be the Jewish > God. > > Sheva of course is the number 7 in hebrew. The traditional pose of > > shiva, with braid of hair rising up, arms outstretched to the sides, > > and one leg tucked under, and one hanging down, traces a star of > > david. Musings. > > > > lurk > > > > > > I always equated Shiva with Jesus > > > > > Jesus = Jeshua (Hebrew pronounciation) > Jai Shiwa > Joshua > (copyright is off_world_beings) Shiva is the slayer of the small self. Shiva draws us upwards in our ever greater transcendence, strengthening the Self, until at the final moment, the small self is slain. Then brillantly reborn As Self in Vishnu, fully expressed through Brahma, The Trinity reflected in Brahman, Infinitely Embodied in Krishna. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > - > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > - > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > "A casino in Vegas"... > > > > > > I rest my case. > > > > And a major New York City church, > > > Churches have always got away with marginal stuff such as bingo games > and "Las Vegas Nights" because it is for "a good cause" and everyone > looks the other way, both from a legal and credibility standpoint. > > > and a presidential > > candidate. > > > Dennis Kuchinich is a borderline Marxist nutcase who garnered very > little support from the Democratic Party grassroots during the > presidential primaries...so there's no credibility there to speak > of...and if there was ever something that would make that point more > evident to the mainstream there's that wee little fact that he > actually got endorsed by John Hagelin! You're missing the point. Never mind. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
Correction: by "you" I meant "sparaig" not Judy (although Judy is certainly under suspicion). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements > of > > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM > to > > > work... > > > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > > of constantly. > > > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > > pathological. This is yet another example: when > > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > > the critics' extreme negative bias. > > > > Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply > couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's degrees > were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as > a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that puts > you in the "blind believer" category for me. > > In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > > > > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements of > > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM to > > work... > > That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use > of constantly. > > Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based > is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. > > As I said, the criticism here is verging on the > pathological. This is yet another example: when > someone attempts to inject a little fairness and > an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a > "blind believer" because they don't buy into > the critics' extreme negative bias. Actually, the blind believer moniker came about because you simply couldn't see the absurdity of pressing me on whether Nader's degrees were "made-up" at the same time you were referring to him as a "King". It is the simple fact that you don't "get it" that puts you in the "blind believer" category for me. In fact, I'll go even further: you need to be deprogrammed. > > It's ironic, because the critics here have become > blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the > blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other > direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > "A casino in Vegas"... > > > > I rest my case. > > And a major New York City church, Churches have always got away with marginal stuff such as bingo games and "Las Vegas Nights" because it is for "a good cause" and everyone looks the other way, both from a legal and credibility standpoint. and a presidential > candidate. Dennis Kuchinich is a borderline Marxist nutcase who garnered very little support from the Democratic Party grassroots during the presidential primaries...so there's no credibility there to speak of...and if there was ever something that would make that point more evident to the mainstream there's that wee little fact that he actually got endorsed by John Hagelin! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements of > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM to > work... That's the same bogus accusation Barry makes use of constantly. Pointing out that a criticism is not soundly based is *not* the same as expressing blind belief. As I said, the criticism here is verging on the pathological. This is yet another example: when someone attempts to inject a little fairness and an objective fact or two, and they're painted as a "blind believer" because they don't buy into the critics' extreme negative bias. It's ironic, because the critics here have become blind un-believers. They're just as nutso as the blissiest TM ninny these days, only in the other direction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the > past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles but to live in the > present moment wisely and earnestly." > -Buddha We can create our past and future at will, and if we believe we cannot, we should avoid suffering, due to the inadvertent or ignorant creation, by us, of our past and our future. So why not create it, or not, by our conscious intention, instead of falling victim to the apparent external action of our imagined past and future? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "A casino in Vegas"... > > I rest my case. And a major New York City church, and a presidential candidate. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the > TMO > > > > > > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless > > > > > propaganda > > > > > > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives > that > > > have > > > > > > > received dubious PhD's... > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical > school > > > in > > > > > > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to > > suspect > > > > these > > > > > > are "made up?" > > > > > > > > > > ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which > you > > > refer > > > > > to him as "KING Nader"... > > > > > > > > Do you have any reason to doubt the validity of his degrees? > > > > > > spairig, I don't think you "got" what I was trying to point out > to > > > you. > > > > > > You asked me whether I had any reason to suspect Tony Nader's > > > degrees are "made-up". Yet in the very same paragraph you refer > to > > > him as a "King"! > > > > > > Do you not see the absurdity of your very own words? > > > > Nope. King Tony's "kingship" is well documented as a Maharishi > thang. > > His MD is also presumeably well-documented orhe'd be in jail by > now > > since his MD was refered to in his acceptance to MIT to get his > > doctorate in neuroscience, andits illegal to pose as an MD if > you're > > not one. > > Then I weep for you. > > You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe > even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements of > the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. > Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM to > work... YOu seem to have missed mypoint: "King Tony" is a made up TM thing. "MD" and "PhD in Neuroscience" are terms that have legal standing, unlike the King Tony thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Santayana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The world is not respectable; it is mortal, tormented, confused, > deluded forever; but it is shot through with beauty, with love, with > glints of courage and laughter; and in these, the spirit blooms > timidly, and struggles to the light amid the thorns. > > -George Santayana A Beautiful quote to be sure! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > > > > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > > > > about something and it's challenged. Then I > > > > may well read the whole thing to see whether > > > > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > > > > awfully silly quoting something in the early > > > > paragraphs as support when it turns out > > > > something later on showed I was wrong. > > > > > > I'll call you disingenious instead of just outright calling you > > > a liar, Judy, which is what you are so quick to call others. > > > > > > On October 16, 1998 at 12:00 a.m. in reference to Tony Nader > > > and the gold, you said: "That's what the news release said > > > explicitly that the gold was to be used for." > > > > That's correct, that's what the press release says. > > > > And your point is...? On what basis do you call me > > anything but 100 percent accurate? > > ...you claim to only read movement publications -- specifically, > the 11-page, 2,500 word press release in question -- in full when > there's a good reason to do so, say if you've made a claim about > something and you're challenged. > > But that's not the case because you read it in its entirety back in > 1998... "Say" means "for example" in this context, Shemp. You can retract your "disingenuous" accusation now. An apology would be appropriate too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > > > > > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless > > > > propaganda > > > > > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that > > have > > > > > > received dubious PhD's... > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school > > in > > > > > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to > suspect > > > these > > > > > are "made up?" > > > > > > > > ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which you > > refer > > > > to him as "KING Nader"... > > > > > > Do you have any reason to doubt the validity of his degrees? > > > > spairig, I don't think you "got" what I was trying to point out to > > you. > > > > You asked me whether I had any reason to suspect Tony Nader's > > degrees are "made-up". Yet in the very same paragraph you refer to > > him as a "King"! > > > > Do you not see the absurdity of your very own words? > > Nope. King Tony's "kingship" is well documented as a Maharishi thang. > His MD is also presumeably well-documented orhe'd be in jail by now > since his MD was refered to in his acceptance to MIT to get his > doctorate in neuroscience, andits illegal to pose as an MD if you're > not one. Then I weep for you. You know, sparaig, TM will be just as effective for you -- maybe even more so! -- if you didn't subscribe to the pronouncements of the cult that has taken over the propagation of the TM Program. Your mindset of blind belief simply is NOT a requirement for TM to work... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > [...] > > > > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > > > > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless > > > propaganda > > > > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that > have > > > > > received dubious PhD's... > > > > > > > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school > in > > > > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to suspect > > these > > > > are "made up?" > > > > > > ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which you > refer > > > to him as "KING Nader"... > > > > Do you have any reason to doubt the validity of his degrees? > > spairig, I don't think you "got" what I was trying to point out to > you. > > You asked me whether I had any reason to suspect Tony Nader's > degrees are "made-up". Yet in the very same paragraph you refer to > him as a "King"! > > Do you not see the absurdity of your very own words? Nope. King Tony's "kingship" is well documented as a Maharishi thang. His MD is also presumeably well-documented orhe'd be in jail by now since his MD was refered to in his acceptance to MIT to get his doctorate in neuroscience, andits illegal to pose as an MD if you're not one. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I'm sorry...this "Global Development Fund"...is it connected to > > the > > > > United Nations or something? You indicate it is a separate > > > > independent entity from the TMO. > > > > > > > > Who is it connected to then? Which well known U.S. or European > > > > university or hospital or public or private research body? > > > > > > It's independent. > > > > Uhhh, okay, it's independent and where do they get their funds from? > > Donations, I believe. ...like the United Way gets money from a cross section of society? Tell me, does the expression: "He who pays the piper call the tune" have any resonance with you? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > As I already pointed out, this is standard > > > language. Scientists "receive awards" of money > > > to continue their research all the time, > > > > ...by putting their fat butts onto a larger-than-life scale and > > weighing it in gold? > > No, Shemp, that's the publicity-stunt part. But > that's a non sequitur anyway, because what you > were objecting to was the specific language that > was used, which was entirely appropriate and not > misleading. > > > > > They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. > > > But it was a splashy, fun story, > > > > Well, I apologise for being such a party-pooper for feeling that > > the organisation responsible for propagating the spiritual > > technique that I've been doing "religiously" for the past 32 years > > is making complete asses of themselves. > > As I've already pointed out, that's a different > issue entirely. > > > > > Reporters, and most people with any sense, > > > understand about publicity stunts. They > > > enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little > > > of the substance. > > > > Could you please show me one mainstream reporter who covered the > > event that didn't come away with a negative reaction? > > No. This was in 1998. Most newspapers didn't > have Web sites back then. But the stories I > remember reading were as positive as they've > been about any of TM's publicity stunts. They > just reported it straightforwardly. > > If I'd been a reporter, not associated with TM, > I think I'd have considered it a pretty good > stunt. > > A casino in Vegas recently offered to pay a > woman's college tuition if she'd shave her > head and have the casino's name tatooed onto > her scalp. Brought the casino huge publicity, > got her a college education. "A casino in Vegas"... I rest my case. > > The Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New > York City holds an annual Blessing of the > Animals. People bring their pets to be blessed, > animal handlers bring all kinds of colorful > animals. Every TV station and newspaper in > the city, and many from outside the city, > shows up and does stories on it. > > Dennis Kuchinich held a very public bride > search when he was running for the Democratic > nomination. He didn't end up with a wife, but > he did get lots of publicity. > > The purpose of publicity stunts is to get > publicity. The more unusual the event, the > more publicity it gets. They're not always > entirely dignified, but nobody *cares* because > that isn't the point. > > There was nothing offensive about this one. It > was a clever way to give Nader some research > money and get a lot of media attention. It's > utterly absurd for you to obsess about it like > this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry...this "Global Development Fund"...is it connected to > the > > > United Nations or something? You indicate it is a separate > > > independent entity from the TMO. > > > > > > Who is it connected to then? Which well known U.S. or European > > > university or hospital or public or private research body? > > > > It's independent. > > Uhhh, okay, it's independent and where do they get their funds from? Donations, I believe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > As I already pointed out, this is standard > > language. Scientists "receive awards" of money > > to continue their research all the time, > > ...by putting their fat butts onto a larger-than-life scale and > weighing it in gold? No, Shemp, that's the publicity-stunt part. But that's a non sequitur anyway, because what you were objecting to was the specific language that was used, which was entirely appropriate and not misleading. > > They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. > > But it was a splashy, fun story, > > Well, I apologise for being such a party-pooper for feeling that > the organisation responsible for propagating the spiritual > technique that I've been doing "religiously" for the past 32 years > is making complete asses of themselves. As I've already pointed out, that's a different issue entirely. > > Reporters, and most people with any sense, > > understand about publicity stunts. They > > enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little > > of the substance. > > Could you please show me one mainstream reporter who covered the > event that didn't come away with a negative reaction? No. This was in 1998. Most newspapers didn't have Web sites back then. But the stories I remember reading were as positive as they've been about any of TM's publicity stunts. They just reported it straightforwardly. If I'd been a reporter, not associated with TM, I think I'd have considered it a pretty good stunt. A casino in Vegas recently offered to pay a woman's college tuition if she'd shave her head and have the casino's name tatooed onto her scalp. Brought the casino huge publicity, got her a college education. The Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York City holds an annual Blessing of the Animals. People bring their pets to be blessed, animal handlers bring all kinds of colorful animals. Every TV station and newspaper in the city, and many from outside the city, shows up and does stories on it. Dennis Kuchinich held a very public bride search when he was running for the Democratic nomination. He didn't end up with a wife, but he did get lots of publicity. The purpose of publicity stunts is to get publicity. The more unusual the event, the more publicity it gets. They're not always entirely dignified, but nobody *cares* because that isn't the point. There was nothing offensive about this one. It was a clever way to give Nader some research money and get a lot of media attention. It's utterly absurd for you to obsess about it like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The definition of "chutpah"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > [...] > > > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > > > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless > > propaganda > > > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that have > > > > received dubious PhD's... > > > > > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school in > > > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to suspect > these > > > are "made up?" > > > > ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which you refer > > to him as "KING Nader"... > > Do you have any reason to doubt the validity of his degrees? spairig, I don't think you "got" what I was trying to point out to you. You asked me whether I had any reason to suspect Tony Nader's degrees are "made-up". Yet in the very same paragraph you refer to him as a "King"! Do you not see the absurdity of your very own words? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reconstructing the World
Judy, here's another wordy press release that you can read in full... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I received the message below from Jennine > Fellmer, Maharishi University of Management director > of expansion. > > Main points: > > - This is year 1,955,855,107. > > - World leaders are deaf to Maharishi's message because > they've subjected themselves to drugs, alcohol, poisonous > foods and medications. > > - Buildings not in accord with the proper cardinal directions > offend the harmony of nature, which cannot be soothed or overcome. > > - In spite of what everyone else is doing wrong in the world, > Maharishi is doing right. > > - You are divine inside, you are cosmic inside, you are universal > inside, your soul is a Unified Field, you are bliss inside, you are a > flow of bliss. > > Here's the message in full: > > Friday, August 26, 2005 > > Dear Alumni and Friends, > > 1400 fortunate people attended Maharishi's Guru Purnima Celebration this year in Meru, > Holland. The event far exceeded anyone's expectations. It was as if Maharishi was offering > the lives of everyone there to the lotus feet of Guru Dev. It felt and looked like Heaven on > Earth. There were beautiful white tents everywhere, the kind used for Presidential > inaugurations, decorated with red carpets, chandeliers, comfortable red velvet chairs, and > banquet halls filled with a variety of dishes and desserts served by professional caterers. > > Outside raised walkways were constructed between the tents, covered in green carpet and > decorated with small flowering trees. In the central area a pond was created with flowers > floating on the water. Children collected precious stones around the grounds and greeted > you at the dining entrance with their colorful displays. > > At around 3:30 or 4:00 each afternoon a variety of delicious Indian treats and snacks were > distributed in all the tents. All the Rajas sat with His Majesty MahaRaj Nadar Raam, and the > Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, our dear President Dr. Bevan Morris, > and other Ministers each day discussing the implementation of Maharishi's programs > around the world. Maharishi frequently remarked how wonderful it was to sit and think > globally with our world family. > > During the Guru Purnima Day Maharishi instructed Bevan to tell people where we stand in > time. The year is 1,955,855,107. Another perspective is Yudisthir of the Pandavas which is > the year 5,143. In Shankar Samvatsar, time since Ati Shankaracharya established the four > Mats, the Northern Mat - Jyotir Mat, the time counted from him is year 2,513. And then > Maharishi Samvatsar is year 50. > > It was during this day that Maharishi launched his Global Reconstruction Program and > invited builders in every country to begin building Peace Colonies in every city composed > of "fortune-creating" homes, and Peace Palaces, where Maharishi's Transcendental > Meditation and other Vedic-science-based programs will be taught to promote > enlightenment for the individual and permanent peace for the world. Many of Europe's top > builders came to the Rajas Tent to meet with the Rajas and His Excellency Dr. Eike > Hartmann to commit their time and resources toward this project. > > During this week's Global Press Conference, Bevan gave a beautiful summary of > Maharishi's desires for the world that were laid out during the Guru Purnima celebration. > He said that globally we want a grand unified world. This hope has come in the midst of > Maharishi's analysis of the history of the world. > > Government is based upon man-made laws instead of the laws that run the universe - the > Constitution of the Universe. The result is a never-ending search for a better > administration. The present system of government, democracy, has proven to be a divider > of nations and a failure to provide solutions to the problems and suffering of society. > > Yet when we speak to governments and show them using scientific evidence how that > system is failing, they have deaf ears. Maharishi explains that these leaders have subjected > themselves to drugs, alcohol, poisonous foods and medications. In addition, the buildings > where they reside and work are damaging to their fortune, clarity of thought, and ability to > understand. > > Maharishi says it is like they are running into a fire and he is telling them don't do it, don't > run into the gates of hell. But this is related to the destiny of the world -as you sow, so > shall you reap. Maharishi has always done what ever he can to help change that. 50 years > ago he started teaching the Transcendental Meditation program to the entire human race > so that every adult and student can experience all possibilities in their own awareness. > This experience alone awakens the total functioning of th
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business? > > > > Would you wear the crown and robes? > > If I were in his position, etc? Sure, why not? Yeah, with King's "right" I would... It's nice to be da King... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > [...] > > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless > propaganda > > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that have > > > received dubious PhD's... > > > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school in > > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to suspect these > > are "made up?" > > ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which you refer > to him as "KING Nader"... Do you have any reason to doubt the validity of his degrees? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Reconstructing the World
Today I received the message below from Jennine Fellmer, Maharishi University of Management director of expansion. Main points: - This is year 1,955,855,107. - World leaders are deaf to Maharishi's message because they've subjected themselves to drugs, alcohol, poisonous foods and medications. - Buildings not in accord with the proper cardinal directions offend the harmony of nature, which cannot be soothed or overcome. - In spite of what everyone else is doing wrong in the world, Maharishi is doing right. - You are divine inside, you are cosmic inside, you are universal inside, your soul is a Unified Field, you are bliss inside, you are a flow of bliss. Here's the message in full: Friday, August 26, 2005 Dear Alumni and Friends, 1400 fortunate people attended Maharishi's Guru Purnima Celebration this year in Meru, Holland. The event far exceeded anyone's expectations. It was as if Maharishi was offering the lives of everyone there to the lotus feet of Guru Dev. It felt and looked like Heaven on Earth. There were beautiful white tents everywhere, the kind used for Presidential inaugurations, decorated with red carpets, chandeliers, comfortable red velvet chairs, and banquet halls filled with a variety of dishes and desserts served by professional caterers. Outside raised walkways were constructed between the tents, covered in green carpet and decorated with small flowering trees. In the central area a pond was created with flowers floating on the water. Children collected precious stones around the grounds and greeted you at the dining entrance with their colorful displays. At around 3:30 or 4:00 each afternoon a variety of delicious Indian treats and snacks were distributed in all the tents. All the Rajas sat with His Majesty MahaRaj Nadar Raam, and the Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, our dear President Dr. Bevan Morris, and other Ministers each day discussing the implementation of Maharishi's programs around the world. Maharishi frequently remarked how wonderful it was to sit and think globally with our world family. During the Guru Purnima Day Maharishi instructed Bevan to tell people where we stand in time. The year is 1,955,855,107. Another perspective is Yudisthir of the Pandavas which is the year 5,143. In Shankar Samvatsar, time since Ati Shankaracharya established the four Mats, the Northern Mat - Jyotir Mat, the time counted from him is year 2,513. And then Maharishi Samvatsar is year 50. It was during this day that Maharishi launched his Global Reconstruction Program and invited builders in every country to begin building Peace Colonies in every city composed of "fortune-creating" homes, and Peace Palaces, where Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation and other Vedic-science-based programs will be taught to promote enlightenment for the individual and permanent peace for the world. Many of Europe's top builders came to the Rajas Tent to meet with the Rajas and His Excellency Dr. Eike Hartmann to commit their time and resources toward this project. During this week's Global Press Conference, Bevan gave a beautiful summary of Maharishi's desires for the world that were laid out during the Guru Purnima celebration. He said that globally we want a grand unified world. This hope has come in the midst of Maharishi's analysis of the history of the world. Government is based upon man-made laws instead of the laws that run the universe - the Constitution of the Universe. The result is a never-ending search for a better administration. The present system of government, democracy, has proven to be a divider of nations and a failure to provide solutions to the problems and suffering of society. Yet when we speak to governments and show them using scientific evidence how that system is failing, they have deaf ears. Maharishi explains that these leaders have subjected themselves to drugs, alcohol, poisonous foods and medications. In addition, the buildings where they reside and work are damaging to their fortune, clarity of thought, and ability to understand. Maharishi says it is like they are running into a fire and he is telling them don't do it, don't run into the gates of hell. But this is related to the destiny of the world -as you sow, so shall you reap. Maharishi has always done what ever he can to help change that. 50 years ago he started teaching the Transcendental Meditation program to the entire human race so that every adult and student can experience all possibilities in their own awareness. This experience alone awakens the total functioning of the brain. >From our own experience as alumni, we know habituating our self to that >unbounded ocean of consciousness, the field in which the whole universe is floating, creates the most powerful thinking. With more and more people learning Transcendental Meditation and the TM-Sidhi program the coherence in national con
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > > > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > > > about something and it's challenged. Then I > > > may well read the whole thing to see whether > > > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > > > awfully silly quoting something in the early > > > paragraphs as support when it turns out > > > something later on showed I was wrong. > > > > I'll call you disingenious instead of just outright calling you a > > liar, Judy, which is what you are so quick to call others. > > > > On October 16, 1998 at 12:00 a.m. in reference to Tony Nader and > > the gold, you said: "That's what the news release said explicitly > > that the gold was to be used for." > > That's correct, that's what the press release says. > > And your point is...? On what basis do you call me > anything but 100 percent accurate? ...you claim to only read movement publications -- specifically, the 11-page, 2,500 word press release in question -- in full when there's a good reason to do so, say if you've made a claim about something and you're challenged. But that's not the case because you read it in its entirety back in 1998... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You see, Judy, I am much more jaded. I will NOT waste my time > > reading through 11 pages of platitudes and superlatives to find out > > what I should have gotten in the first paragraph. > > > > So, yes, I am lazy. From experience, the TMO has taught me to be... > > > > But kudos to you for having the time in your day to actually READ > > ALL of the Movement's publications. It must be heartwarming to the > > scribes that spit out this stuff in Holland to know that a TBer is > > taking the time out to actually READ this stuff... > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > about something and it's challenged. Then I > may well read the whole thing to see whether > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > awfully silly quoting something in the early > paragraphs as support when it turns out > something later on showed I was wrong. > > > > > > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > > > > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > > > > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > > > > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > > > > shenanigans going on. > > > > > > Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite > > > straightforward as far as the transfer of money > > > was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. > > > mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his > > > personal use. > > > > Gee, then say it in the first paragraph, don't call it an "award" > > and don't say that Nader "received" the money. > > As I already pointed out, this is standard > language. Scientists "receive awards" of money > to continue their research all the time, ...by putting their fat butts onto a larger-than-life scale and weighing it in gold? $100,000 in useless Raams to the first person who can show me a scientist outside of the TM cult who got a research grant by getting his weight in gold... > and > that's exactly how the process is described. > Nothing at all misleading about it. > > > > > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that > > was > > > > not successful at all. > > > > > > As I said, it was extremely successful, got all > > > kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what > > > publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed > > > reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, > > > in the hope that some of them will reproduce some > > > of it in their news stories, which they did. The > > > TM folks got to talk about the scientific research > > > on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch > > > TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the > > > world. > > > > Yeah, it worked out really, really well. > > > > It really increased the credibility of TM and the TMO in the eyes > > of all the mainstream reporters that either attended the press > > conference or read about it. Yeah, they really took seriously a > > purported scientist and grown man sitting on a scale having himself > > weighed in gold. > > They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. > But it was a splashy, fun story, Well, I apologise for being such a party-pooper for feeling that the organisation responsible for propagating the spiritual technique that I've been doing "religiously" for the past 32 years is making complete asses of themselves. > and in order to > have a basis for publishing it, they had to put in > a little something about the TM research and the > goals of the movement, which was why the stunt > was devised in the first place. It accomplished > exactly what the TMO wanted it to accomplish. > > Reporters, and most people with any sense, > understand about publicity stunts. They > enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little > of the substance. Could you please show me one mainstream reporter who covered the event that didn't come away with a negative reaction? > > If you're objecting that they'd have found the > substance foolish, it's a different story, as I said: > > > > Then your argument is with TM > > > for having such a spiel in the first place, not for > > > holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. > > > That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > > > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > > > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > > > something *different*. How much time did you waste > > > doing that? > > > > I wondered how much time it took too. However, as it seems to be > > in keeping with other invitations you have given to visit alt. m.t. > > to clarify something, you're "time wasting" comment seems a bit > > catty to me. > > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > way to make me the bad guy. No, Kitten, you're not the bad guy. Jeff is just being a mean, old poop. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > > about something and it's challenged. Then I > > may well read the whole thing to see whether > > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > > awfully silly quoting something in the early > > paragraphs as support when it turns out > > something later on showed I was wrong. > > I'll call you disingenious instead of just outright calling you a > liar, Judy, which is what you are so quick to call others. > > On October 16, 1998 at 12:00 a.m. in reference to Tony Nader and > the gold, you said: "That's what the news release said explicitly > that the gold was to be used for." That's correct, that's what the press release says. And your point is...? On what basis do you call me anything but 100 percent accurate? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Brits Devolving To Ape-Men/Ape-Women'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050826/ap_on_fe_st/britain_human_zoo_3 But scorpions are on an even lower level of devolution than ape- persons, no? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > > > > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > > > > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, he probably doubles over with laughter at times > at > > > the > > > > > > > relative absurdity of it all, though he does seem to be > > > > enjoying > > > > > > > his current ride in the amusement park! > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > > > > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > > > > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > > > > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > > > > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > > > > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to > > reapportion > > > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > > > > > If this is what you are saying then the whole publicity stunt > > was, > > > > at worst, dishonest in its portrayal, at best, fraudulent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a publicity stunt and the original PR on it said it was a > > > research grant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, 1,000 words into an 11-page, 2,500 word "press release". > > > > Yes, I am guilty as charged of not reading ALL of the endless > > diatribes and propaganda that the TMO publishes. > > > > > > More like you're guilty of obsessing about a what, 10-year-old (or > more) press release that you admit you misread in the first place? I never even READ the entire press release back in -- what was it? -- 1998. I guess seeing the photo in Age of Enlightenment News freaked me out so much that I was afraid to read any of the details... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > [...] > > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless propaganda > > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that have > > received dubious PhD's... > > Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school in > Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to suspect these > are "made up?" ...and you ask that question in the same sentence in which you refer to him as "KING Nader"... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > > > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > > > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > > > something *different*. How much time did you waste > > > doing that? > > > > > > In any case, you were correct that I'd suggested > > > it was transferred within the TMO proper. > > > > > > But I'd forgotten that the money was from the Global > > > Development Fund until I'd read the press release > > > again. It wasn't within the TMO proper after all. > > > > I'm sorry...this "Global Development Fund"...is it connected to the > > United Nations or something? You indicate it is a separate > > independent entity from the TMO. > > > > Who is it connected to then? Which well known U.S. or European > > university or hospital or public or private research body? > > It's independent. Uhhh, okay, it's independent and where do they get their funds from? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Brits Devolving To Ape-Men/Ape-Women'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Vedic Teachings/Hit's the East Coast/Well, Almost'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1125049415 263130.xml&coll=1 The events of human life, whether public or private, are so intimately linked to architecture that most observers can reconstruct nations or individuals in all the truth of their habits from the remains of their public monuments or from their domestic relics. -Honoré de Balzac, The Search for the Absolute Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You see, Judy, I am much more jaded. I will NOT waste my time > > reading through 11 pages of platitudes and superlatives to find out > > what I should have gotten in the first paragraph. > > > > So, yes, I am lazy. From experience, the TMO has taught me to be... > > > > But kudos to you for having the time in your day to actually READ > > ALL of the Movement's publications. It must be heartwarming to the > > scribes that spit out this stuff in Holland to know that a TBer is > > taking the time out to actually READ this stuff... > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > about something and it's challenged. Then I > may well read the whole thing to see whether > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > awfully silly quoting something in the early > paragraphs as support when it turns out > something later on showed I was wrong. I'll call you disingenious instead of just outright calling you a liar, Judy, which is what you are so quick to call others. On October 16, 1998 at 12:00 a.m. in reference to Tony Nader and the gold, you said: "That's what the news release said explicitly that the gold was to be used for." > > > > > > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > > > > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > > > > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > > > > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > > > > shenanigans going on. > > > > > > Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite > > > straightforward as far as the transfer of money > > > was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. > > > mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his > > > personal use. > > > > Gee, then say it in the first paragraph, don't call it an "award" > > and don't say that Nader "received" the money. > > As I already pointed out, this is standard > language. Scientists "receive awards" of money > to continue their research all the time, and > that's exactly how the process is described. > Nothing at all misleading about it. > > > > > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that > > was > > > > not successful at all. > > > > > > As I said, it was extremely successful, got all > > > kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what > > > publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed > > > reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, > > > in the hope that some of them will reproduce some > > > of it in their news stories, which they did. The > > > TM folks got to talk about the scientific research > > > on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch > > > TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the > > > world. > > > > Yeah, it worked out really, really well. > > > > It really increased the credibility of TM and the TMO in the eyes > > of all the mainstream reporters that either attended the press > > conference or read about it. Yeah, they really took seriously a > > purported scientist and grown man sitting on a scale having himself > > weighed in gold. > > They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. > But it was a splashy, fun story, and in order to > have a basis for publishing it, they had to put in > a little something about the TM research and the > goals of the movement, which was why the stunt > was devised in the first place. It accomplished > exactly what the TMO wanted it to accomplish. > > Reporters, and most people with any sense, > understand about publicity stunts. They > enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little > of the substance. > > If you're objecting that they'd have found the > substance foolish, it's a different story, as I said: > > > > Then your argument is with TM > > > for having such a spiel in the first place, not for > > > holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. > > > That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] report from Omaha World Herald
$3 million 'palace' to rise from the prairie Omaha World-Herald Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:10 PM PDT The Prairie Peace Park will soon be transformed into a Peace Palace. Followers of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the religious leader and founder of Transcendental Meditation, are buying the 27-acre site in Seward County that now is home to a private park dedicated to promoting peace, said Don Tilley of Lincoln, co-founder and director of the park. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1638&u_sid=1491871 (full link requires membership signup) -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Maharishi's Vedic Teachings/Hit's the East Coast/Well, Almost'
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[FairfieldLife] Santayana
The world is not respectable; it is mortal, tormented, confused, deluded forever; but it is shot through with beauty, with love, with glints of courage and laughter; and in these, the spirit blooms timidly, and struggles to the light amid the thorns. -George Santayana Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jesus = Shiva
Shiva brings light at the finest level of creation; in the darkest place. So, there you have it. Indra likes to make sparks, apparently. Krishna likes to maintain the purity of everything. Brahm likes to create.off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > My armchair theory has always been that Shiva may be the Jewish God. > Sheva of course is the number 7 in hebrew. The traditional pose of > shiva, with braid of hair rising up, arms outstretched to the sides, > and one leg tucked under, and one hanging down, traces a star of > david. Musings.> > lurk> > > I always equated Shiva with Jesus> Jesus = Jeshua (Hebrew pronounciation)Jai ShiwaJoshua(copyright is off_world_beings)__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > > > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > > > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, he probably doubles over with laughter at times at > > the > > > > > > relative absurdity of it all, though he does seem to be > > > enjoying > > > > > > his current ride in the amusement park! > > > > > > > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > > > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > > > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > > > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > > > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > > > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to > reapportion > > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > > > If this is what you are saying then the whole publicity stunt > was, > > > at worst, dishonest in its portrayal, at best, fraudulent. > > > > > > > > > It was a publicity stunt and the original PR on it said it was a > > research grant. > > > > > > Yeah, 1,000 words into an 11-page, 2,500 word "press release". > > Yes, I am guilty as charged of not reading ALL of the endless > diatribes and propaganda that the TMO publishes. > > More like you're guilty of obsessing about a what, 10-year-old (or more) press release that you admit you misread in the first place? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > > > > Well, just before he says "What the f**k", he says "this is what > I > > > get after 12 years of post-secondary education and medical > school?" > > > > > > And a doctorate in neuroscience from MIT? > > > > > -) PRECISELY my point! > His degrees to waste. What IS your point? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > the f**k!" > > > > Some of what MMY has said about King Tony implies that he's in > Unity > > Consciousness... > > > > Gotta wonder at your scenario if this is so... > > > > > > What are you saying, that being in Unity Consciousness removes your > common sense, that it obliterates your sense of decency and self- > respect? Dunno. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [...] > Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO > publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless propaganda > and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that have > received dubious PhD's... Regardless, King Nader's degees are MD from a medical school in Lebanon, and a PhD from MIT. Do you have any reason to suspect these are "made up?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Buddha
"The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly." -Buddha Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business? > > Would you wear the crown and robes? If I were in his position, etc? Sure, why not? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a > way to make me the bad guy. Sorry. Not my intention. I'll go back to keeping my observations to myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > > something *different*. How much time did you waste > > doing that? > > I wondered how much time it took too. However, as it seems to be > in keeping with other invitations you have given to visit alt. m.t. > to clarify something, you're "time wasting" comment seems a bit > catty to me. Congratulations, Jeff. Once again you've found a way to make me the bad guy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > > something *different*. How much time did you waste > > doing that? > > > > In any case, you were correct that I'd suggested > > it was transferred within the TMO proper. > > > > But I'd forgotten that the money was from the Global > > Development Fund until I'd read the press release > > again. It wasn't within the TMO proper after all. > > I'm sorry...this "Global Development Fund"...is it connected to the > United Nations or something? You indicate it is a separate > independent entity from the TMO. > > Who is it connected to then? Which well known U.S. or European > university or hospital or public or private research body? It's independent. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > So I did not, in fact, say anything about > > reapportioning money from one department within > > the TMO to another. (And in any case, even if > > that *was* what had happened, organizations do > > that all the time. There would have been nothing > > "fraudulent" about it.) > > I think we'll let your words speak for themselves. Translation: Ooops. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You see, Judy, I am much more jaded. I will NOT waste my time > reading through 11 pages of platitudes and superlatives to find out > what I should have gotten in the first paragraph. > > So, yes, I am lazy. From experience, the TMO has taught me to be... > > But kudos to you for having the time in your day to actually READ > ALL of the Movement's publications. It must be heartwarming to the > scribes that spit out this stuff in Holland to know that a TBer is > taking the time out to actually READ this stuff... Actually I only read it when there's a good reason to do so--say if I have made a claim about something and it's challenged. Then I may well read the whole thing to see whether my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look awfully silly quoting something in the early paragraphs as support when it turns out something later on showed I was wrong. > > > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > > > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > > > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > > > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > > > shenanigans going on. > > > > Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite > > straightforward as far as the transfer of money > > was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. > > mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his > > personal use. > > Gee, then say it in the first paragraph, don't call it an "award" > and don't say that Nader "received" the money. As I already pointed out, this is standard language. Scientists "receive awards" of money to continue their research all the time, and that's exactly how the process is described. Nothing at all misleading about it. > > > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that > was > > > not successful at all. > > > > As I said, it was extremely successful, got all > > kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what > > publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed > > reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, > > in the hope that some of them will reproduce some > > of it in their news stories, which they did. The > > TM folks got to talk about the scientific research > > on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch > > TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the > > world. > > Yeah, it worked out really, really well. > > It really increased the credibility of TM and the TMO in the eyes > of all the mainstream reporters that either attended the press > conference or read about it. Yeah, they really took seriously a > purported scientist and grown man sitting on a scale having himself > weighed in gold. They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. But it was a splashy, fun story, and in order to have a basis for publishing it, they had to put in a little something about the TM research and the goals of the movement, which was why the stunt was devised in the first place. It accomplished exactly what the TMO wanted it to accomplish. Reporters, and most people with any sense, understand about publicity stunts. They enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little of the substance. If you're objecting that they'd have found the substance foolish, it's a different story, as I said: > > Then your argument is with TM > > for having such a spiel in the first place, not for > > holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. > > That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrity Poker and Stephen Collins
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last night I was channel surfing and tuned in to the middle of the > two hour Celebrity Poker show on Bravo in which TMer Stephen Collins > was one of five celebrities playing No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em. > > Each of the celebrities plays for the charity of their choice and I > think the charity gets $25,000 if their celebrity wins (losers get > $5,000 for their charity). > > Because I was going back and forth from one channel to another, I > just missed the part where each celebrity talks a bit about their > chosen charity. But after Collins talked about his charity, for the > rest of the program there was an occasional quip by the other > celebrities about Collins playing for "world peace"...so I suspect > Collins' chosen charity was for MMY's Peace Palaces. > Collins probably gave to Lynch's effort to pay for TM for schoolkids -- he appeared with Lynch somewhere or other and endorsed this effort to raise $7 billion. > Well, I'll tell you who won... > > > [spoiler -- if you don't want to know, don't scroll down any > farther...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins won. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Give War a Chance' Vs. 'Give Peace a Chance'...
Well, one of the things, that I noticed this morning, was they decided to keep the Air Force Base open in South Dakota; The Senator that defeated the lead Democrat, Tom Daschel, is from there. Anyway, they have these latest bombers there; the B-1 Bombers. Well, I heard that the B-52's are the greatest bombing machine, we've ever had. Besides, this kind of high-class weapon, that costs billions of dollars each, could be used to develop good will in the world towards the United States. All that money could be used to help the starving children, and moms and dads in Africa; But I guess they are the wrong color, and there's no 'Black Gold' there,to be had... So, anyway, this Military/Industrial Complex, is out of control, and just spends money to keep it going. The danger of this, is the continued need for conflict, to make sure these weapons, and their billion-dollar cost, can be justified. That is why this administration, insists that we must continue to war indefinitely, and that is the "way to peace". Only the reality is, indiscriminant bombing of people, leads to hatred and the tendency to want to destroy the arrogant, advanced invading force. Just as we would not like an invading force in our country. It's just common sense. Does, this administration have common sense. And why do these Presidents from the "Lone Star State"; Seem to get us in these Hellish situations???- > -- - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > 'Give Peace A Chance" sure thing- we have over 6,000 nukes; how much more military stuff do we need; to feel safe? > "Give Peace a Chance" works particularly well when you have a few > nuclear weapons under your belt... > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business? > > Would you wear the crown and robes? You mean instead of a sailor's cap? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > something *different*. How much time did you waste > doing that? I wondered how much time it took too. However, as it seems to be in keeping with other invitations you have given to visit alt. m.t. to clarify something, you're "time wasting" comment seems a bit catty to me. These interchanges are somewhat mesmerizing for me, like hanging around at a car wreck: I want to see what happens, but part of me wonders why. I guess I rationalize the volitional waste of my own time with this stuff as at least I'm reading, rather than being gamma rayiedly (correct this spelling please) stupified by the boob tube. There is perverse entertainment value in it all for me. So, for that, I thank you (the collective you). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from > my recent post here, instead of going back and digging > up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said > something *different*. How much time did you waste > doing that? > > In any case, you were correct that I'd suggested > it was transferred within the TMO proper. > > But I'd forgotten that the money was from the Global > Development Fund until I'd read the press release > again. It wasn't within the TMO proper after all. I'm sorry...this "Global Development Fund"...is it connected to the United Nations or something? You indicate it is a separate independent entity from the TMO. Who is it connected to then? Which well known U.S. or European university or hospital or public or private research body? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, he probably doubles over with laughter at times at > the > > > > > relative absurdity of it all, though he does seem to be > > enjoying > > > > > his current ride in the amusement park! > > > > > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to reapportion > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > If this is what you are saying then the whole publicity stunt was, > > at worst, dishonest in its portrayal, at best, fraudulent. > > > > > It was a publicity stunt and the original PR on it said it was a > research grant. Yeah, 1,000 words into an 11-page, 2,500 word "press release". Yes, I am guilty as charged of not reading ALL of the endless diatribes and propaganda that the TMO publishes. > > > > > > > > > And I rather doubt his crown and robe were a major > > > expenditure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > Well, just before he says "What the f**k", he says "this is what I > > get after 12 years of post-secondary education and medical school?" > > > And a doctorate in neuroscience from MIT? -) PRECISELY my point! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Or maybe he's terrified of making his own decisions > > > > and thus > > > > taking responsibility for his own life? Certainly > > > > way easier to think > > > > "my Master told me to do this so it must be right" > > > > than it is to critically > > > > examine one's own behavior and beliefs while > > > > admitting the possibility > > > > that many things you have held as absolute truth for > > > > decades might > > > > be not only absurd, but possibly even intentionally > > > > concocted by > > > > someone you implicitly trusted to deceive and fleece > > > > you. > > > > > > > > The latter is a very serious "oh shit" experience, > > > > as I have found. > > > > Maybe Tony just hasn't gotten to the "oh shit" yet. > > > > Or maybe he > > > > has so much invested in ignoring the shit that he'll > > > > never come face > > > > to face with it in this lifetime. Or maybe he > > > > really is King of the > > > > Universe and an incarnation of the Divine. I know > > > > which ones I > > > > think are more likely... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > "Cliff" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not just you. I have exactly the same > > > > reaction. Any > > > > > westerner > > > > > > > > > who puts on that crown has just removed > > > > themselves from any > > > > > > > > > possibility of being taken seriously on > > > > this planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it exactly. And anyone who says > > > > "Yes" to the > > > > > > > > idea, out of a mistaken sense of loyalty to > > > > the teacher > > > > > > > > who proposes it, is IMO doing a disservice > > > > both to the > > > > > > > > teacher and to that which he teaches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the teacher MUST be wrong when he asks you > > > > to do an apparently > > > > > > > SILLY thing? > > > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily, but if *you* know it to be > > > > silly > > > > > > and feel in your heart that it's the wrong thing > > > > > > to do, and do it anyway out of a sense of > > > > loyalty > > > > > > to the teacher, then yes, it's wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. > > > > He > > > > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to > > > > > > really believe that this silly world government > > > > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the > > > > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that > > > > must be endured, > > > > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who > > > > should be honored? > > > > > > > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than > > > > the rest of us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ~--> > > > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > > > Yahoo! your home page > > > > > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > > > > > --- --- > - > > -~-> > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ---
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to > > reapportion > > > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > > > Funny, I don't recall saying anything about > > > reapportioning funds from one department to > > > another. You made that up. > > > > [snip] > > > > Judy Stein from Nov. 10, 1998 (amt): > > > > "Anyway, this is what he got his > > weight in gold for. But it was stipulated that it must be used > > for further research into these matters, SO THE FUNDS WERE REALLY > > JUST MOVED FROM ONE OF THE MOVEMENT'S POCKETS INTO ANOTHER --it > > was a publicity stunt, in other words." (my emphasis) > > Hmm, let's see, that was, what, seven years ago? > > I don't believe you'd call the Global Development > Fund a "TMO department"; I believe it operates > independently of the TMO. But it certainly would be > appropriate to call it a "movement pocket." (That's > what's called a "metaphor," Shemp.) "TM movement" and > "TM organization" are not synonymous, of course. > > So I did not, in fact, say anything about > reapportioning money from one department within > the TMO to another. (And in any case, even if > that *was* what had happened, organizations do > that all the time. There would have been nothing > "fraudulent" about it.) I think we'll let your words speak for themselves. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > the f**k!" > > Some of what MMY has said about King Tony implies that he's in Unity > Consciousness... > > Gotta wonder at your scenario if this is so... What are you saying, that being in Unity Consciousness removes your common sense, that it obliterates your sense of decency and self- respect? > > > > > --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Or maybe he's terrified of making his own decisions > > > and thus > > > taking responsibility for his own life? Certainly > > > way easier to think > > > "my Master told me to do this so it must be right" > > > than it is to critically > > > examine one's own behavior and beliefs while > > > admitting the possibility > > > that many things you have held as absolute truth for > > > decades might > > > be not only absurd, but possibly even intentionally > > > concocted by > > > someone you implicitly trusted to deceive and fleece > > > you. > > > > > > The latter is a very serious "oh shit" experience, > > > as I have found. > > > Maybe Tony just hasn't gotten to the "oh shit" yet. > > > Or maybe he > > > has so much invested in ignoring the shit that he'll > > > never come face > > > to face with it in this lifetime. Or maybe he > > > really is King of the > > > Universe and an incarnation of the Divine. I know > > > which ones I > > > think are more likely... > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "Cliff" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Not just you. I have exactly the same > > > reaction. Any > > > > westerner > > > > > > > > who puts on that crown has just removed > > > themselves from any > > > > > > > > possibility of being taken seriously on > > > this planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it exactly. And anyone who says > > > "Yes" to the > > > > > > > idea, out of a mistaken sense of loyalty to > > > the teacher > > > > > > > who proposes it, is IMO doing a disservice > > > both to the > > > > > > > teacher and to that which he teaches. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the teacher MUST be wrong when he asks you > > > to do an apparently > > > > > > SILLY thing? > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily, but if *you* know it to be > > > silly > > > > > and feel in your heart that it's the wrong thing > > > > > to do, and do it anyway out of a sense of > > > loyalty > > > > > to the teacher, then yes, it's wrong. > > > > > > > > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. > > > He > > > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to > > > > > really believe that this silly world government > > > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the > > > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway. > > > > > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that > > > must be endured, > > > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who > > > should be honored? > > > > > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than > > > the rest of us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ~--> > > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > > Yahoo! your home page > > > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > > > - --- > ~-> > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscri
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the Movement didn't want to mislead people they could have > > called it a scientific "grant" in the first paragraph instead of > > qualifying it 1,000 words later (by the way, a 2,500 word text is > > about 11 pages single-spaced...whoever heard of a press release - - > > at least a successful press release anyway! -- being more than a > > few paragraphs or, at most, a page in length? My God, this is a > > diatribe, NOT a press release!) > > Most of the news stories I read cited the fact > that it was to be used for his research, so > apparently reporters aren't as lazy as you are. No, they're not. Probably because they are not used to the fact that the TMO publishes pages and pages and pages and pages of useless propaganda and made-up and unfounded platitudes of TMO operatives that have received dubious PhD's...and when a reporter is assigned the job of doing a piece on the TMO -- probably for the first time -- he does his job properly enough to actually READ a whole 11 page "press release". You see, Judy, I am much more jaded. I will NOT waste my time reading through 11 pages of platitudes and superlatives to find out what I should have gotten in the first paragraph. So, yes, I am lazy. From experience, the TMO has taught me to be... But kudos to you for having the time in your day to actually READ ALL of the Movement's publications. It must be heartwarming to the scribes that spit out this stuff in Holland to know that a TBer is taking the time out to actually READ this stuff... > > > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > > shenanigans going on. > > Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite > straightforward as far as the transfer of money > was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. > mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his > personal use. Gee, then say it in the first paragraph, don't call it an "award" and don't say that Nader "received" the money. > > > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that was > > not successful at all. > > As I said, it was extremely successful, got all > kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what > publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed > reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, > in the hope that some of them will reproduce some > of it in their news stories, which they did. The > TM folks got to talk about the scientific research > on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch > TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the > world. Yeah, it worked out really, really well. It really increased the credibility of TM and the TMO in the eyes of all the mainstream reporters that either attended the press conference or read about it. Yeah, they really took seriously a purported scientist and grown man sitting on a scale having himself weighed in gold. For the TMO's next publicity stunt that will surely also increase their credibility, they're going to have an elephant named Ganesh take a dump on a plate of spaghetti. The meal will be called the United States. Then a monkey called Hanuman is going to eat it. Hanuman will represent the purifying power of Shtapatya architecture and will demonstrate overcoming of evil. > > It was certainly no worse than other TM publicity > stunts, Agreed! > like the Yogic Olympics it used to hold > for the same reason, to get reporters in a room to > listen to a spiel by putting on a splashy event. Oh, and we've been taken seriously ever since...NOT! > > The spiel *itself* is weird, but that's another > story altogether. 'Fraid not. The publicity stunts have BECOME the message...and any 6th grade child could have told MMY that from the very first one... > Then your argument is with TM > for having such a spiel in the first place, not for > holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. > That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.c
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business? Would you wear the crown and robes? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > giving money to the TMO. Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from my recent post here, instead of going back and digging up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said something *different*. How much time did you waste doing that? In any case, you were correct that I'd suggested it was transferred within the TMO proper. But I'd forgotten that the money was from the Global Development Fund until I'd read the press release again. It wasn't within the TMO proper after all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 8/26/05 10:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I think Warren Berman donated most of the money for the weight in > > > gold. I wonder if Tony got to keep the gold or graciously handed > it > > > over to MMY. > > > > The money was a grant was funded by the Global > > Development Corporation. It was put in a bank > > to fund Nader's scientific research. > > The press release of Feb. 6, 1998 quite clearly says that "Tony > Nader ... will receive his weight in gold". > > It then goes on several times to refer to it as an "award", NOT a > grant. > > Are you trying to tell us that the following paragraph somehow > suggests the money was a grant? > > "The award is being offered with the support of the Maharishi Global > Development Fund in fact, it is the first performance of this $400 > million Fund recently set up in the U.S.A. to support the development > and reconstruction of the world according to Natural Law." > > ...'cause if you are, the above paragraph, at best, is a confusing > ambiguous statment that does NOT make clear whether it is the weight > in gold given to Nader which is to support the development and > reconsruction of the world according to Natural Law or whether it is > the $400 million fund...and, at worst, contradicts the wording > of "award" and "will receive his weight in gold". It also says...: Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special scale, and gold will be piled up on the other side until the scale balances. This gold then will be given to Professor Nader as his scientific award, and deposited in a bank to support his continued scientific work. During the ceremony, Professor Nader will respond with a special address to the global audience and members of the press about his most recent discoveries in the physiology particularly concerning the specific location in the human brain of the intelligence which rules the universe. Their Weight in Silver for His Research Colleagues Professor Nader's colleagues, Dr. Volker Schanbacher from Germany, and Dr. Keith Wallace and Ted Wallace from the United States, and Dr. Walter Mölk and Dr. Rainer Picha from Austria, who have recently joined Maharishi Vedic University, and have assisted him in continuing the research, will then take their turn on the scale. Silver will be piled up equivalent to their weights, and this will be granted to them in honour of their achievements. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > > > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > > > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > > > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > > > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > > > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to > reapportion > > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > Funny, I don't recall saying anything about > > reapportioning funds from one department to > > another. You made that up. > > > > > If this is what you are saying then the whole publicity stunt > was, > > > at worst, dishonest in its portrayal, at best, fraudulent. > > > > Oh, please. The TMO would have funded his > > research in any case. They just decided to > > hand out the money in a way that would give > > them some publicity. Nothing the least bit > > fraudulent about it. The press release said > > what the money was to be used for. > > > > And publicity stunts are by definition > > "dishonest." This was a good one, imaginative > > and quite successful. > > > > Let me understand this, Judy. > > You most certainly seem to be saying that the "giving Tony Nader his > weight in gold" was: > > 1) a good publicity stunt; and > > 2) "imaginative"; and > > 3) "quite successful? > > I will cede to you that, yes, #2 is correct that it WAS imaginative. > > But I suggest to you and the others readers on this forum that if > you do actually ascribe to both #1 and #3 that you are either: > > 1) deluded; > > 2) quite possibly brainwashed by a cult; or > > 3) in denial. > > > Are you sure you don't want to retract your statement above? > > Only after you admit you can't read "research grant" when it is presented to you over and over again... > > > > > No kidding, folks, the criticism here is > > verging on the pathological. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > > > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > > > > the f**k!" > > > > > > > > Agreed, he probably doubles over with laughter at times at the > > > > relative absurdity of it all, though he does seem to be > enjoying > > > > his current ride in the amusement park! > > > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to reapportion > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > If this is what you are saying then the whole publicity stunt was, > at worst, dishonest in its portrayal, at best, fraudulent. > It was a publicity stunt and the original PR on it said it was a research grant. > > > > > And I rather doubt his crown and robe were a major > > expenditure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > the f**k!" > > > Well, just before he says "What the f**k", he says "this is what I > get after 12 years of post-secondary education and medical school?" And a doctorate in neuroscience from MIT? > > > > > > > --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Or maybe he's terrified of making his own decisions > > > and thus > > > taking responsibility for his own life? Certainly > > > way easier to think > > > "my Master told me to do this so it must be right" > > > than it is to critically > > > examine one's own behavior and beliefs while > > > admitting the possibility > > > that many things you have held as absolute truth for > > > decades might > > > be not only absurd, but possibly even intentionally > > > concocted by > > > someone you implicitly trusted to deceive and fleece > > > you. > > > > > > The latter is a very serious "oh shit" experience, > > > as I have found. > > > Maybe Tony just hasn't gotten to the "oh shit" yet. > > > Or maybe he > > > has so much invested in ignoring the shit that he'll > > > never come face > > > to face with it in this lifetime. Or maybe he > > > really is King of the > > > Universe and an incarnation of the Divine. I know > > > which ones I > > > think are more likely... > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "Cliff" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Not just you. I have exactly the same > > > reaction. Any > > > > westerner > > > > > > > > who puts on that crown has just removed > > > themselves from any > > > > > > > > possibility of being taken seriously on > > > this planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it exactly. And anyone who says > > > "Yes" to the > > > > > > > idea, out of a mistaken sense of loyalty to > > > the teacher > > > > > > > who proposes it, is IMO doing a disservice > > > both to the > > > > > > > teacher and to that which he teaches. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the teacher MUST be wrong when he asks you > > > to do an apparently > > > > > > SILLY thing? > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily, but if *you* know it to be > > > silly > > > > > and feel in your heart that it's the wrong thing > > > > > to do, and do it anyway out of a sense of > > > loyalty > > > > > to the teacher, then yes, it's wrong. > > > > > > > > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. > > > He > > > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to > > > > > really believe that this silly world government > > > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the > > > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway. > > > > > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that > > > must be endured, > > > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who > > > should be honored? > > > > > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than > > > the rest of us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ~--> > > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > > Yahoo! your home page > > > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > > > -- - > -~-> > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subje
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to > reapportion > > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > > > Funny, I don't recall saying anything about > > reapportioning funds from one department to > > another. You made that up. > > [snip] > > Judy Stein from Nov. 10, 1998 (amt): > > "Anyway, this is what he got his > weight in gold for. But it was stipulated that it must be used > for further research into these matters, SO THE FUNDS WERE REALLY > JUST MOVED FROM ONE OF THE MOVEMENT'S POCKETS INTO ANOTHER --it > was a publicity stunt, in other words." (my emphasis) Hmm, let's see, that was, what, seven years ago? I don't believe you'd call the Global Development Fund a "TMO department"; I believe it operates independently of the TMO. But it certainly would be appropriate to call it a "movement pocket." (That's what's called a "metaphor," Shemp.) "TM movement" and "TM organization" are not synonymous, of course. So I did not, in fact, say anything about reapportioning money from one department within the TMO to another. (And in any case, even if that *was* what had happened, organizations do that all the time. There would have been nothing "fraudulent" about it.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/26/05 10:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >>> I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > >>> sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > >>> the f**k!" > >> > >> Agreed, he probably doubles over with laughter at times at the > >> relative absurdity of it all, though he does seem to be enjoying > >> his current ride in the amusement park! > > > > I think it's good every so often to remember who > > *paid* for his E-ticket ride. Where do you think > > the money came from for his robes and crown, much > > less his weight in gold? From all the TBs who > > donated to projects along the way that they'd > > convinced themselves were really going to happen. > > I think Warren Berman donated most of the money for the weight in gold. I > wonder if Tony got to keep the gold or graciously handed it over to MMY. I wonderif anyone ever reads the original announcements... It said explicitly that themoney was a research grant. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bevan and John Confronting Maharishi?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/25/05 12:35 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Well said. I finally saw that the emperor's new clothes were not what > > I wanted to believe and left. It took nearly 30 more years before I > > found someone who embodied the wisdom I had only read about. > > Who? Y'know, Rick, I have thought about this and thought. If I give you a name, it won't be important. What is important is to find a way to be very aware of exactly what you are experiencing, right now. It is important to be very open to what you hear, see, feel, experience, sense and then to not let that go until you have seen it for what it is. Sorry. It's the best I can do. Sometimes, at least for me, it is a matter of comparing what I learned from and about MMY/MCS/MPV/BBM (so many names for one little man) and then comparing that with what I know about myself, what I havelearned since those days when the Emperor's new clothes were seen, suddenly, one day, just as they were. It is important to keep moving on. When you think you are there, when you think "this is it", well, it may be close and it may be important, but you are it and thinking somthing outside yourself is it ismissing the point. G Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > > the f**k!" > > It would be really, really, really, really scary > if he didn't. What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror, > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What > the f**k!" Some of what MMY has said about King Tony implies that he's in Unity Consciousness... Gotta wonder at your scenario if this is so... > > --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or maybe he's terrified of making his own decisions > > and thus > > taking responsibility for his own life? Certainly > > way easier to think > > "my Master told me to do this so it must be right" > > than it is to critically > > examine one's own behavior and beliefs while > > admitting the possibility > > that many things you have held as absolute truth for > > decades might > > be not only absurd, but possibly even intentionally > > concocted by > > someone you implicitly trusted to deceive and fleece > > you. > > > > The latter is a very serious "oh shit" experience, > > as I have found. > > Maybe Tony just hasn't gotten to the "oh shit" yet. > > Or maybe he > > has so much invested in ignoring the shit that he'll > > never come face > > to face with it in this lifetime. Or maybe he > > really is King of the > > Universe and an incarnation of the Divine. I know > > which ones I > > think are more likely... > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "Cliff" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Not just you. I have exactly the same > > reaction. Any > > > westerner > > > > > > > who puts on that crown has just removed > > themselves from any > > > > > > > possibility of being taken seriously on > > this planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's it exactly. And anyone who says > > "Yes" to the > > > > > > idea, out of a mistaken sense of loyalty to > > the teacher > > > > > > who proposes it, is IMO doing a disservice > > both to the > > > > > > teacher and to that which he teaches. > > > > > > > > > > So the teacher MUST be wrong when he asks you > > to do an apparently > > > > > SILLY thing? > > > > > > > > Not necessarily, but if *you* know it to be > > silly > > > > and feel in your heart that it's the wrong thing > > > > to do, and do it anyway out of a sense of > > loyalty > > > > to the teacher, then yes, it's wrong. > > > > > > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. > > He > > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to > > > > really believe that this silly world government > > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the > > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway. > > > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that > > must be endured, > > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who > > should be honored? > > > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than > > the rest of us? > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > Yahoo! your home page > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > ~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the Movement didn't want to mislead people they could have > called it a scientific "grant" in the first paragraph instead of > qualifying it 1,000 words later (by the way, a 2,500 word text is > about 11 pages single-spaced...whoever heard of a press release -- > at least a successful press release anyway! -- being more than a > few paragraphs or, at most, a page in length? My God, this is a > diatribe, NOT a press release!) Most of the news stories I read cited the fact that it was to be used for his research, so apparently reporters aren't as lazy as you are. > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > shenanigans going on. Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite straightforward as far as the transfer of money was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his personal use. > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that was > not successful at all. As I said, it was extremely successful, got all kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, in the hope that some of them will reproduce some of it in their news stories, which they did. The TM folks got to talk about the scientific research on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the world. It was certainly no worse than other TM publicity stunts, like the Yogic Olympics it used to hold for the same reason, to get reporters in a room to listen to a spiel by putting on a splashy event. The spiel *itself* is weird, but that's another story altogether. Then your argument is with TM for having such a spiel in the first place, not for holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. He > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to > > > really believe that this silly world government > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway. > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that must be endured, > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who should be honored? > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than the rest of us? > > No, no, no. No way. Tony Nader can't *possibly* > have as clear a perspective or as much insight into > what he's doing as we have right here on this forum. So true. I mean everyone on this newsgroup has two doctorates, including one given at one of the top universities in the world which he obtained in his non-native tongue... Most Americans, at least, fail to understand how hard it is to obtain a degree of ANY kind while using a second language. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > For the record, the money didn't go to him personally > > > but to fund his research; essentially, it was the TMO > > > giving money to the TMO. > > > > So he did NOT get his weight in gold. > > > > In other words, the whole scale stunt was just a way to reapportion > > funds WITHIN the TMO from one department to another... > > Funny, I don't recall saying anything about > reapportioning funds from one department to > another. You made that up. [snip] Judy Stein from Nov. 10, 1998 (amt): "Anyway, this is what he got his weight in gold for. But it was stipulated that it must be used for further research into these matters, SO THE FUNDS WERE REALLY JUST MOVED FROM ONE OF THE MOVEMENT'S POCKETS INTO ANOTHER --it was a publicity stunt, in other words." (my emphasis) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > And I suggest to you that you frequently seem > > > to have difficulty interpreting plain English when > > > it's saying something you don't want to accept. > > > > > > A "good" publicity stunt is a successful one. A > > > "successful" publicity stunt is one that gets-- > > > wait for it!--a lot of publicity. > > > > > > This stunt got a lot of publicity. You concede it > > > was imaginative. Therefore, it was a good > > > publicity stunt, imaginative and quite successful. > > > > then according to you "Nurenberg" and the 1936 Olympic Games were > > good publicity stunts and very, very successful. > > If you consider them publicity stunts and they got > a lot of publicity, then, as publicity stunts, yes, > indeed, they were good publicity and very, very > successful. > > > Sad. > > Not. A matter of the plain meaning of English > words. Sorry you can't deal with that. No, I can't. And I'll call a spade a spade. It sucked. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 8/26/05 10:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > I think Warren Berman donated most of the money for the weight > in > > > > gold. I wonder if Tony got to keep the gold or graciously > handed > > it > > > > over to MMY. > > > > > > The money was a grant was funded by the Global > > > Development Corporation. It was put in a bank > > > to fund Nader's scientific research. > > > > The press release of Feb. 6, 1998 quite clearly says that "Tony > > Nader ... will receive his weight in gold". > > > > It then goes on several times to refer to it as an "award", NOT a > > grant. > > > > Are you trying to tell us that the following paragraph somehow > > suggests the money was a grant? > > > > "The award is being offered with the support of the Maharishi > Global > > Development Fund in fact, it is the first performance of this > $400 > > million Fund recently set up in the U.S.A. to support the > development > > and reconstruction of the world according to Natural Law." > > > > ...'cause if you are, the above paragraph, at best, is a confusing > > ambiguous statment that does NOT make clear whether it is the > > weight in gold given to Nader which is to support the development > > and reconsruction of the world according to Natural Law or whether > > it is the $400 million fund > > "The Fund has concluded that Professor Nader's research has provided > a powerful scientific basis for this programme because it has > demonstrated how crucial is the relationship of individual life to > cosmic life, and how vital it is to maintain balance between the > individual nature of intelligence and its cosmic status, so that > natural harmony and order prevail, and everyone enjoys maximum > health, happiness and good fortune." > > The Fund, in other words, is supporting the > development and reconstruction of the world > according to Natural Law by giving a grant to > Tony Nader to continue his research. > > ...and, at worst, contradicts the > > wording of "award" and "will receive his weight in gold". > > Grants are frequently referred to as "awards." > > "Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special scale, and > gold will be piled up on the other side until the scale balances. > This gold then will be given to Professor Nader as his scientific > award, and deposited in a bank to support his continued scientific > work." > > These quotes are from the same page you quoted from. Yes, the rather long, tortured, full of platitudes and propaganda page...which you have to scroll down half way through the 2,500 word "press release" to get to.. If the Movement didn't want to mislead people they could have called it a scientific "grant" in the first paragraph instead of qualifying it 1,000 words later (by the way, a 2,500 word text is about 11 pages single-spaced...whoever heard of a press release -- at least a successful press release anyway! -- being more than a few paragraphs or, at most, a page in length? My God, this is a diatribe, NOT a press release!) Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and shenanigans going on. Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that was not successful at all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
