[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
...and an early ruling from Nader Ram will be that someone other than himself will handle the public face of the TMO, and the details of running the TMO. Nader Ram can save face by declaring that he's going to rule from the field of permanent silence. In all due respect to Nader Ram, Deepak Chopra had the greatest potential to be a successful successor to MMY. When Deepak left the TMO, MMY tried to elevate Nader Ram based predominantly on academic credentials as a Harvard-trained neuroscientist. Nader Ram's heart seems pure, but he will be eaten alive by Bevan, Girish, John, and others, in short order, if he really tries to run the TMO. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > After 50 years of micro-managing the TMO, Maharishi several weeks > ago > > presumably gave up the reins of power of the TMO and handed it over > > to others. > > > > But what will happen when a major decision has to be made? Will > > Maharishi be able to defer to Maha Poobah Nader Ram (or whoever it > is > > that is now making the final decisions)? Or will he insist upon > > making the decision himself? > > > > The following is how Don Corleone handled the situation once he > > retired. Will Maharishi be as wise? > > > > > > > > CLEMENZA (to the Don) > > > > Don Corleone -- you once said that the day would come when Tessio > and > > me could form our own Family. Til today, I would never think of it. > I > > must ask your permission... > > > > VITO CORLEONE (looking away) > > > > Well, Michael is now head of the Family, and if he gives his > > permission, then you have my blessing... > > > > MICHAEL (seated on a chair) > > > > After we make the move to Nevada -- you can break off from the > > Corleone Family and go on your own. After we make the move to > Nevada. > > > > Interesting comparison. But the TMO does not any place to move > into. They've already divided the world into various sectors for the > Rajahs to rule. IMO, Nader Ram has the final say in the > administration of the TMO. >
[FairfieldLife] Chris Rock's 2008 Election Analysis
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[FairfieldLife] Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting By Michelle Boorstein Washington Post, January 26, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy The grandson of Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi resigned yesterday as president of the board of a conflict resolution institute after writing an online essay on a Washington Post blog calling Jews and Israel "the biggest players" in a global culture of violence. In his resignation letter to the board of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, founder Arun Gandhi wrote that his Jan. 7 essay "was couched in language that was hurtful and contrary to the principles of nonviolence. My intention was to generate a healthy discussion on the proliferation of violence. Clearly I did not achieve my goal. Instead, unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion and embarrassment." The institute is housed at the University of Rochester and has a university-paid director. Gandhi submitted his resignation to the board Thursday and it was accepted yesterday. Board members could not be reached immediately yesterday, but a brief unsigned statement on the university's Web site said: "The essence of Arun Gandhi's work has been to educate and promote the principles of nonviolence. In that spirit, the Institute plans to work with the University of Rochester and other community groups to use the recent events as an opportunity to deepen mutual understanding through dialogue employing the principles of nonviolence and peace." Gandhi's comments were part of a discussion about the future of Jewish identity on the religion blog On Faith at washingtonpost.com. He wrote that Jewish identity is "locked into the holocaust experience," which Jews "overplay . . . to the point that it begins to repulse friends." The Jewish nation -- Israel, he wrote -- is too reliant upon weapons and bombs and should instead befriend its enemies. "Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity," he wrote. The posting drew 438 comments -- an exceptionally high response for an On Faith essay -- and prompted such a backlash that Gandhi later posted an apology. The Web site also apologized. On Jan. 11, university President Joel Seligman labeled Gandhi's initial comments stereotyping and said they were "fundamentally inconsistent with the core values" of the school. Yesterday, he called the resignation "appropriate." The institute will remain at the university, which will host a forum later this year "to provide Arun Gandhi, a leader of the Jewish community and other speakers the opportunity to address the issues raised by Mr. Gandhi's statements and related issues. A University can and should promote dialogue in which we can learn from each other even when the most painful or difficult issues will be discussed," Seligman said in his statement yesterday.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > After 50 years of micro-managing the TMO, Maharishi several weeks > ago > > presumably gave up the reins of power of the TMO and handed it over > > to others. > > > > But what will happen when a major decision has to be made? Will > > Maharishi be able to defer to Maha Poobah Nader Ram (or whoever it > is > > that is now making the final decisions)? Or will he insist upon > > making the decision himself? > > > > The following is how Don Corleone handled the situation once he > > retired. Will Maharishi be as wise? > > > > > > > > CLEMENZA (to the Don) > > > > Don Corleone -- you once said that the day would come when Tessio > and > > me could form our own Family. Til today, I would never think of it. > I > > must ask your permission... > > > > VITO CORLEONE (looking away) > > > > Well, Michael is now head of the Family, and if he gives his > > permission, then you have my blessing... > > > > MICHAEL (seated on a chair) > > > > After we make the move to Nevada -- you can break off from the > > Corleone Family and go on your own. After we make the move to > Nevada. > > > > Interesting comparison. But the TMO does not any place to move > into. They've already divided the world into various sectors for the > Rajahs to rule. IMO, Nader Ram has the final say in the > administration of the TMO. Let's say that, tomorrow, Nader Ram decides to put the price of learning TM down to $100.00. Do you think Maharishi will support that move without interfering, just as the Don supported Michael?
Re: [FairfieldLife] A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
In a message dated 1/25/08 11:59:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After we make the move to Nevada -- you can break off from the Corleone Family and go on your own. After we make the move to Nevada. Hey everybody! Maharishi is moving to Nevada! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
The default application of extreme punishment on those who have the courage to express moderate voices is amazing to behold. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting > > By Michelle Boorstein > Washington Post, January 26, 2008 > http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy > > > The grandson of Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi resigned > yesterday as president of the board of a conflict resolution institute > after writing an online essay on a Washington Post blog calling Jews > and Israel "the biggest players" in a global culture of violence. > > In his resignation letter to the board of the M.K. Gandhi Institute > for Nonviolence, founder Arun Gandhi wrote that his Jan. 7 essay "was > couched in language that was hurtful and contrary to the principles of > nonviolence. My intention was to generate a healthy discussion on the > proliferation of violence. Clearly I did not achieve my goal. Instead, > unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion and > embarrassment." > > The institute is housed at the University of Rochester and has a > university-paid director. Gandhi submitted his resignation to the > board Thursday and it was accepted yesterday. > > Board members could not be reached immediately yesterday, but a brief > unsigned statement on the university's Web site said: "The essence of > Arun Gandhi's work has been to educate and promote the principles of > nonviolence. In that spirit, the Institute plans to work with the > University of Rochester and other community groups to use the recent > events as an opportunity to deepen mutual understanding through > dialogue employing the principles of nonviolence and peace." > > Gandhi's comments were part of a discussion about the future of Jewish > identity on the religion blog On Faith at washingtonpost.com. He wrote > that Jewish identity is "locked into the holocaust experience," which > Jews "overplay . . . to the point that it begins to repulse friends." > The Jewish nation -- Israel, he wrote -- is too reliant upon weapons > and bombs and should instead befriend its enemies. > > "Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, > this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate > them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are > the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going > to destroy humanity," he wrote. > > The posting drew 438 comments -- an exceptionally high response for an > On Faith essay -- and prompted such a backlash that Gandhi later > posted an apology. The Web site also apologized. > > On Jan. 11, university President Joel Seligman labeled Gandhi's > initial comments stereotyping and said they were "fundamentally > inconsistent with the core values" of the school. Yesterday, he called > the resignation "appropriate." > > The institute will remain at the university, which will host a forum > later this year "to provide Arun Gandhi, a leader of the Jewish > community and other speakers the opportunity to address the issues > raised by Mr. Gandhi's statements and related issues. A University can > and should promote dialogue in which we can learn from each other even > when the most painful or difficult issues will be discussed," Seligman > said in his statement yesterday. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Run Lurky Run (Rick. I think Turq needs a time out)
Shemp: If I had the money, I'd leave the biggest, fattest, juiciest carbon footprint that I could by flying the biggest, fattest, juiciest private jet I could get my clammy hands on. Rick: Shemp got his degree in environmental science from Ronald Reagan University: Hell no, Shemp is a card carrying member of the James Watt society. Wait, wasn't the world supposed to end by now. 110.00 of us, or was it 440,00 were supposed to transported directly to heaven. message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 7:44 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls!
Idle chit chat about people's > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > Inability to do a good job? I think Beven has done a fabulous job of transferring capital from the West to the East. He has been soldier and master at vedic fundraisin for Maharishi's family and all. By all accounting standards anyone would have to remark about his job in this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh for heaven's sake go and get laid. Idle chit chat about people's > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bevans_celibacy" > wrote: > > > > This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, >
[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Patrick Gillam
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The default application of extreme punishment on those who have the courage to express > moderate voices is amazing to behold. H. Quite an interesting response, mainstream, but I am befuddled as to whom you are referring. At first blush, I thought that the "those" you refer to in your comment "application of extreme punishment on those who have the courage to express moderate voices" was to Arun Gandhi. But then thinking about it, I realized that it couldn't be Gandhi because the "punishment" he experienced was self-inflicted: he resigned (and there was no indication anywhere in the piece that he was asked to; it appears to be totally unilateral). Therefore, he couldn't have meant Gandhi. Then I thought: perhaps mainstream is referring to Israel as the party that has the courage to express a moderate voice. After all, through the ages the right to self-defense has NEVER, EVER been considered anything BUT moderate. Defending oneself is not an extreme position; it is moderate and the norm. Indeed, Israel has, since its inception, been the party in the conflict that has ALWAYS been the only moderate voice and has ALWAYS been on the receiving end of extreme punishment by its neighbors (the surrounding Arab neighbors just haven't been very successful in actually meting out the extreme punishment they have intended to apply to Israel, which is to annihilate them). So I have concluded that mainstream is referring to Israel, not Arun Ghandi. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > > > Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting > > > > By Michelle Boorstein > > Washington Post, January 26, 2008 > > http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy > > > > > > The grandson of Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi resigned > > yesterday as president of the board of a conflict resolution institute > > after writing an online essay on a Washington Post blog calling Jews > > and Israel "the biggest players" in a global culture of violence. > > > > In his resignation letter to the board of the M.K. Gandhi Institute > > for Nonviolence, founder Arun Gandhi wrote that his Jan. 7 essay "was > > couched in language that was hurtful and contrary to the principles of > > nonviolence. My intention was to generate a healthy discussion on the > > proliferation of violence. Clearly I did not achieve my goal. Instead, > > unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion and > > embarrassment." > > > > The institute is housed at the University of Rochester and has a > > university-paid director. Gandhi submitted his resignation to the > > board Thursday and it was accepted yesterday. > > > > Board members could not be reached immediately yesterday, but a brief > > unsigned statement on the university's Web site said: "The essence of > > Arun Gandhi's work has been to educate and promote the principles of > > nonviolence. In that spirit, the Institute plans to work with the > > University of Rochester and other community groups to use the recent > > events as an opportunity to deepen mutual understanding through > > dialogue employing the principles of nonviolence and peace." > > > > Gandhi's comments were part of a discussion about the future of Jewish > > identity on the religion blog On Faith at washingtonpost.com. He wrote > > that Jewish identity is "locked into the holocaust experience," which > > Jews "overplay . . . to the point that it begins to repulse friends." > > The Jewish nation -- Israel, he wrote -- is too reliant upon weapons > > and bombs and should instead befriend its enemies. > > > > "Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, > > this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate > > them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are > > the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going > > to destroy humanity," he wrote. > > > > The posting drew 438 comments -- an exceptionally high response for an > > On Faith essay -- and prompted such a backlash that Gandhi later > > posted an apology. The Web site also apologized. > > > > On Jan. 11, university President Joel Seligman labeled Gandhi's > > initial comments stereotyping and said they were "fundamentally > > inconsistent with the core values" of the school. Yesterday, he called > > the resignation "appropriate." > > > > The institute will remain at the university, which will host a forum > > later this year "to provide Arun Gandhi, a leader of the Jewish > > community and other speakers the opportunity to address the issues > > raised by Mr. Gandhi's statements and related issues. A University can > > and should promote dialogue in which we can learn from each other even > > when the most painful or difficult issues will be discussed," Seligman > > s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Run Lurky Run (Rick. I think Turq needs a time out)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Shemp: > If I had the money, I'd leave the biggest, fattest, juiciest carbon > footprint that I could by flying the biggest, fattest, juiciest private > jet I could get my clammy hands on. > > > Rick: > Shemp got his degree in environmental science from Ronald Reagan > University: > > > Hell no, Shemp is a card carrying member of the James Watt society. > Wait, wasn't the world supposed to end by now. 110.00 of us, or was it > 440,00 were supposed to transported directly to heaven. It was 110.00 of us, Genius. > > > > message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: > 1/25/2008 > > 7:44 PM > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good to have you on the planet. I understand that the death of Heath Ledger has totally screwed up his latest movie. He had a similar problem with that movie he was doing about Don Quixote. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 7:44 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/25/08 11:59:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > After we make the move to Nevada -- you can break off from the > > Corleone Family and go on your own. After we make the move to > > Nevada. > > Hey everybody! Maharishi is moving to Nevada! Been there, done that. He's already lived there, *in* Michael Corleone's house. :-) Really.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > The default application of extreme punishment on those who have the > courage to express > > moderate voices is amazing to behold. > > > > > H. > > Quite an interesting response, mainstream, but I am befuddled as to > whom you are referring. > > At first blush, I thought that the "those" you refer to in your > comment "application of extreme punishment on those who have the > courage to express moderate voices" was to Arun Gandhi. But then > thinking about it, I realized that it couldn't be Gandhi because > the "punishment" he experienced was self-inflicted: he resigned (and > there was no indication anywhere in the piece that he was asked to; > it appears to be totally unilateral). Therefore, he couldn't have > meant Gandhi. > > Then I thought: perhaps mainstream is referring to Israel as the > party that has the courage to express a moderate voice. After all, > through the ages the right to self-defense has NEVER, EVER been > considered anything BUT moderate. Defending oneself is not an > extreme position; it is moderate and the norm. > > Indeed, Israel has, since its inception, been the party in the > conflict that has ALWAYS been the only moderate voice and has ALWAYS > been on the receiving end of extreme punishment by its neighbors (the > surrounding Arab neighbors just haven't been very successful in > actually meting out the extreme punishment they have intended to > apply to Israel, which is to annihilate them). > > So I have concluded that mainstream is referring to Israel, not Arun > Ghandi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting > > > > > > By Michelle Boorstein > > > Washington Post, January 26, 2008 > > > http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy > > > > > > > > > The grandson of Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi resigned > > > yesterday as president of the board of a conflict resolution > institute > > > after writing an online essay on a Washington Post blog calling > Jews > > > and Israel "the biggest players" in a global culture of violence. > > > > > > In his resignation letter to the board of the M.K. Gandhi > Institute > > > for Nonviolence, founder Arun Gandhi wrote that his Jan. 7 > essay "was > > > couched in language that was hurtful and contrary to the > principles of > > > nonviolence. My intention was to generate a healthy discussion on > the > > > proliferation of violence. Clearly I did not achieve my goal. > Instead, > > > unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion > and > > > embarrassment." > > > > > > The institute is housed at the University of Rochester and has a > > > university-paid director. Gandhi submitted his resignation to the > > > board Thursday and it was accepted yesterday. > > > > > > Board members could not be reached immediately yesterday, but a > brief > > > unsigned statement on the university's Web site said: "The > essence of > > > Arun Gandhi's work has been to educate and promote the principles > of > > > nonviolence. In that spirit, the Institute plans to work with the > > > University of Rochester and other community groups to use the > recent > > > events as an opportunity to deepen mutual understanding through > > > dialogue employing the principles of nonviolence and peace." > > > > > > Gandhi's comments were part of a discussion about the future of > Jewish > > > identity on the religion blog On Faith at washingtonpost.com. He > wrote > > > that Jewish identity is "locked into the holocaust experience," > which > > > Jews "overplay . . . to the point that it begins to repulse > friends." > > > The Jewish nation -- Israel, he wrote -- is too reliant upon > weapons > > > and bombs and should instead befriend its enemies. > > > > > > "Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the > bomb, > > > this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate > > > them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews > are > > > the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually > going > > > to destroy humanity," he wrote. > > > > > > The posting drew 438 comments -- an exceptionally high response > for an > > > On Faith essay -- and prompted such a backlash that Gandhi later > > > posted an apology. The Web site also apologized. > > > > > > On Jan. 11, university President Joel Seligman labeled Gandhi's > > > initial comments stereotyping and said they were "fundamentally > > > inconsistent with the core values" of the school. Yesterday, he > called > > > the resignation "appropriate." > > > > > > The institute will remain at the university, which will host a > forum > > > later this year "to provide Arun Gandh
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Talk all you want about the hypocrisy of the TMO, > > because I agree with you there is plenty of that, > but > > listing the names of the innocent is absolute > > bullshit. > > > Pete, > How this guy could turn so many posters against him > with a point that > the movement heads are hypocritical is amazing! I > totally second your > point. > > Lets say it was an abuse of power from an authority > figure. Why hurt > the victim? Does this guy really miss this simple > point? I think this guy native tongue is not English and he's from a third world country so his thinking is very different. I don't think he gets what we're talking about and why everybody is so upset with him. > It is funny to remember when we were students how > many faculty > including Domash the president, had student body > GFs. Lets make a > quick check, philosophy, art, music, physics, > political science, > University President, Dean of Students...it was a > perk of the low > paying job I guess. I heard about a few of them. I too thought it was rather odd that these 45 year old guys had these 20-something girlfriends that were students. At any other college you'd be fired immediately for an ethics violation. > Now to the name poster. Please acknowledge that you > understand the > point everyone has been making. You may have plenty > to contribute and > we all learn by posting. But being stubborn about > this without > understanding the feedback you are getting does not > bode well for the > relevance of your POV here. No one is trying to > curtail your freedom > of speech. But you can learn something about being > fair on a public > forum if you are willing. I think I'm going to make a list of all the women I had the hots over while going to MIU. Perhaps a list of who I didn't sleep with. Wait a second, that's easy. Every single woman there! > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- nadarrombus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > the way to talk about the sex lives of people > who > > > claim to have a > > > superior knowledge and practice of conducting > > > themselves sexually, ie. > > > claiming purusha, or brahmachari yet commonly > known > > > to have had sex > > > partners is exactly this way. > > > > You are a hopeless idiot. It is important to talk > > about this issue, but you don't start listing > names of > > the people the alleged perp had sex with. What the > > hell does that do? Its just pure slander. What is > so > > difficult to understand about that? > > > > > > > you are sounding like > > > a zealous > > > terrorist. your tone suggests you would protect > the > > > reputation of tm > > > leaders with violence to promote your beliefs. > > > > You completely miss my point. English must be your > > second language because you completely and totally > > miss the point I'm making with your recent post > and > > this one of mine from several years ago. I am not > > protecting the reputation of the TM leaders. I am > > protecting the reputation of these woman that you > > treat like a terrorist, not giving a shit about > the > > effect this has on them and they are the innocent > > victims here. Do you understand this? > > > > > > > you > > > believe you are > > > more right and special like they are cause they > are > > > a superior human > > > or have a better purpose than others. you ignore > the > > > way of our free > > > society and attempt to introduce > totalitarianism. > > > our individual > > > rights protect us from weak minded fools like > you. > > > > More rant from your erroneous assumptions. > > > > > > > it is ok for john, > > > bevan and nader ram to be duplicitous in your > mind > > > as they are the > > > state before the commune of heaven on earth > > > establishes itself. you > > > continue to use a threatening tone towards the > > > people interested in > > > truth in this forum. there is no slander except > your > > > continued > > > aggression to free and truth loving people in > your > > > stupid claims that > > > they are not moral enough to have their own > > > information and opinions. > > > we have the right to discuss freely our ideas > and > > > opinions despite the > > > terror tactics you continue to employee. no > > > discussion on a forum such > > > as this can have any legal implications > whatsoever > > > as it is an open > > > media undefined as fact or fiction, not intended > to > > > provide or deride > > > information toward anyone or any group and > contains > > > no contractual > > > agreements regarding statements in any > > > way... > > > > Pal, you are arguing with yourself, because this > is > > not even remotely my position. I really don't > think > > you get it at all. Here it is again: DO NOT POST > THE > > NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT YOU THINK HAVE HAD SEX WITH > JOHN, > > BEVAN OR WHOMEVER BECAUSE THAT IS SLANDER. YOU DO > NOT
[FairfieldLife] MMY Mahasamadhi?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
When I was on MIU faculty a long time ago, I dated more than one of my students. It was no big deal. No one thought anything of it, and a number of faculty members eventually married former students. There was no big age discrepancy between faculty and students in those days. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is funny to remember when we were students how many faculty > including Domash the president, had student body GFs. Lets make a > quick check, philosophy, art, music, physics, political science, > University President, Dean of Students...it was a perk of the low > paying job I guess. > > Now to the name poster. Please acknowledge that you understand the > point everyone has been making. You may have plenty to contribute and > we all learn by posting. But being stubborn about this without > understanding the feedback you are getting does not bode well for the > relevance of your POV here. No one is trying to curtail your freedom > of speech. But you can learn something about being fair on a public > forum if you are willing. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > --- nadarrombus wrote: > > > > > the way to talk about the sex lives of people who > > > claim to have a > > > superior knowledge and practice of conducting > > > themselves sexually, ie. > > > claiming purusha, or brahmachari yet commonly known > > > to have had sex > > > partners is exactly this way. > > > > You are a hopeless idiot. It is important to talk > > about this issue, but you don't start listing names of > > the people the alleged perp had sex with. What the > > hell does that do? Its just pure slander. What is so > > difficult to understand about that? > > > > > > > you are sounding like > > > a zealous > > > terrorist. your tone suggests you would protect the > > > reputation of tm > > > leaders with violence to promote your beliefs. > > > > You completely miss my point. English must be your > > second language because you completely and totally > > miss the point I'm making with your recent post and > > this one of mine from several years ago. I am not > > protecting the reputation of the TM leaders. I am > > protecting the reputation of these woman that you > > treat like a terrorist, not giving a shit about the > > effect this has on them and they are the innocent > > victims here. Do you understand this? > > > > > > > you > > > believe you are > > > more right and special like they are cause they are > > > a superior human > > > or have a better purpose than others. you ignore the > > > way of our free > > > society and attempt to introduce totalitarianism. > > > our individual > > > rights protect us from weak minded fools like you. > > > > More rant from your erroneous assumptions. > > > > > > > it is ok for john, > > > bevan and nader ram to be duplicitous in your mind > > > as they are the > > > state before the commune of heaven on earth > > > establishes itself. you > > > continue to use a threatening tone towards the > > > people interested in > > > truth in this forum. there is no slander except your > > > continued > > > aggression to free and truth loving people in your > > > stupid claims that > > > they are not moral enough to have their own > > > information and opinions. > > > we have the right to discuss freely our ideas and > > > opinions despite the > > > terror tactics you continue to employee. no > > > discussion on a forum such > > > as this can have any legal implications whatsoever > > > as it is an open > > > media undefined as fact or fiction, not intended to > > > provide or deride > > > information toward anyone or any group and contains > > > no contractual > > > agreements regarding statements in any > > > way... > > > > Pal, you are arguing with yourself, because this is > > not even remotely my position. I really don't think > > you get it at all. Here it is again: DO NOT POST THE > > NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT YOU THINK HAVE HAD SEX WITH JOHN, > > BEVAN OR WHOMEVER BECAUSE THAT IS SLANDER. YOU DO NOT > > HAVE THE LEGAL PRIVILEGE NOR THE MORAL RIGHT TO POST > > NAMES. THIS IS HERSEY WRITTEN AS FACT. > > > > Talk all you want about the hypocrisy of the TMO, > > because I agree with you there is plenty of that, but > > listing the names of the innocent is absolute > > bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls!
I find it amusing that through the TM movement the East is finally learning how to exploit the West, rather than the other way round. The Third World strikes back! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Idle chit chat about people's > > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > > > > Inability to do a good job? I think Beven has done a fabulous job of > transferring capital from the West to the East. He has been soldier > and master at vedic fundraisin for Maharishi's family and all. By all > accounting standards anyone would have to remark about his job in this. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" > wrote: > > > > Oh for heaven's sake go and get laid. Idle chit chat about people's > > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bevans_celibacy" > > wrote: > > > > > > This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi's Grandson Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
My, the strain of perpetual conflict is putting at risk some of the finest intellects on the planet. Partisanship in the extreme form has a corrosive effect on the intellect; feigning a broad perception initially, the partisan's intellect soon assigns incoming info as further evidence that proves the partisan's position. May comfort and security come to all soon, lest we lose the wonderful capacity for thinking clearly that so many involved in the conflict once had in abundance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > The default application of extreme punishment on those who have the > courage to express > > moderate voices is amazing to behold. > > > > > H. > > Quite an interesting response, mainstream, but I am befuddled as to > whom you are referring. > > At first blush, I thought that the "those" you refer to in your > comment "application of extreme punishment on those who have the > courage to express moderate voices" was to Arun Gandhi. But then > thinking about it, I realized that it couldn't be Gandhi because > the "punishment" he experienced was self-inflicted: he resigned (and > there was no indication anywhere in the piece that he was asked to; > it appears to be totally unilateral). Therefore, he couldn't have > meant Gandhi. > > Then I thought: perhaps mainstream is referring to Israel as the > party that has the courage to express a moderate voice. After all, > through the ages the right to self-defense has NEVER, EVER been > considered anything BUT moderate. Defending oneself is not an > extreme position; it is moderate and the norm. > > Indeed, Israel has, since its inception, been the party in the > conflict that has ALWAYS been the only moderate voice and has ALWAYS > been on the receiving end of extreme punishment by its neighbors (the > surrounding Arab neighbors just haven't been very successful in > actually meting out the extreme punishment they have intended to > apply to Israel, which is to annihilate them). > > So I have concluded that mainstream is referring to Israel, not Arun > Ghandi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting > > > > > > By Michelle Boorstein > > > Washington Post, January 26, 2008 > > > http://tinyurl.com/ysj2xy > > > > > > > > > The grandson of Indian spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi resigned > > > yesterday as president of the board of a conflict resolution > institute > > > after writing an online essay on a Washington Post blog calling > Jews > > > and Israel "the biggest players" in a global culture of violence. > > > > > > In his resignation letter to the board of the M.K. Gandhi > Institute > > > for Nonviolence, founder Arun Gandhi wrote that his Jan. 7 > essay "was > > > couched in language that was hurtful and contrary to the > principles of > > > nonviolence. My intention was to generate a healthy discussion on > the > > > proliferation of violence. Clearly I did not achieve my goal. > Instead, > > > unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion > and > > > embarrassment." > > > > > > The institute is housed at the University of Rochester and has a > > > university-paid director. Gandhi submitted his resignation to the > > > board Thursday and it was accepted yesterday. > > > > > > Board members could not be reached immediately yesterday, but a > brief > > > unsigned statement on the university's Web site said: "The > essence of > > > Arun Gandhi's work has been to educate and promote the principles > of > > > nonviolence. In that spirit, the Institute plans to work with the > > > University of Rochester and other community groups to use the > recent > > > events as an opportunity to deepen mutual understanding through > > > dialogue employing the principles of nonviolence and peace." > > > > > > Gandhi's comments were part of a discussion about the future of > Jewish > > > identity on the religion blog On Faith at washingtonpost.com. He > wrote > > > that Jewish identity is "locked into the holocaust experience," > which > > > Jews "overplay . . . to the point that it begins to repulse > friends." > > > The Jewish nation -- Israel, he wrote -- is too reliant upon > weapons > > > and bombs and should instead befriend its enemies. > > > > > > "Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the > bomb, > > > this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate > > > them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews > are > > > the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually > going > > > to destroy humanity," he wrote. > > > > > > The posting drew 438 comments -- an exceptionally high response > for an > > > On Faith
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it amusing that through the TM movement the East is finally > learning how to exploit the West, rather than the other way round. The > Third World strikes back! ...that's pretty much how I view casinos on Indian reservations... > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > Idle chit chat about people's > > > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > > > > > > > Inability to do a good job? I think Beven has done a fabulous job of > > transferring capital from the West to the East. He has been soldier > > and master at vedic fundraisin for Maharishi's family and all. By all > > accounting standards anyone would have to remark about his job in this. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" > > wrote: > > > > > > Oh for heaven's sake go and get laid. Idle chit chat about people's > > > sex life has no bearing on their proven inability to do a good job. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bevans_celibacy" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You and your posts, I just lift my leg on and walk > away from, the same way my dog does... :-) > yeah, and now we now why your dog is bowlegged, you drunken old fart... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > I vote he gets suspended for a week, and then we'll see. There's > definitely a line between keeping this an open forum, and just > ceaselessly dragging it into the gutter. > > > Fuck you asshole. I'll take 1000 of his posts to one of you mamby pamby > whines. > I think you meant this to go to Turdquoise, he's the one who wants to fuck your asshole, asshole.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
Lurk: Fuck you asshole. I'll take 1000 of his posts to one of you mamby pambywhines. Sandiego: I think you meant this to go to Turdquoise, he's the one who wants to fuck your asshole, asshole. At least we know who he is. I don't believe he has ever expressed a sentiment of the type you propose
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Lurk: > > Fuck you asshole. I'll take 1000 of his posts to one of you mamby > pambywhines. > > Sandiego: > > I think you meant this to go to Turdquoise, he's the one who wants to > fuck your asshole, asshole. > > At least we know who he is. I don't believe he has ever expressed a > sentiment of the type you propose > have I woken you up out of your comfortable stupor? Hey, whaddya call a Buddhist who is full of shit? Turdquoise B! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev
Secret wrote: > But if you come from a hustler family and hustle as he > did to keep close to Guru Dev, you're going to stay a > hustler. > Maybe so, but I've seen no evidence that Mr. Yogi was from a "hustler family". From what I've read, Mahesh was raised in the Varma family, but he may have actually been the son of Mr. Srivastava, an employee of the Indian railway system. Marshy's maternal uncle was Raj Varma, an artist of some repute. There's no indication in Marshy's biography by Paul Mason that would indicate that the Varma's were hustlers. More likely they were devotees of Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. Can you cite any evidence that Marshy was from a family of hustlers? Work cited: 'Maharishi: The Biography' by Paul Mason Element Books, 1994
[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Let's say that, tomorrow, Nader Ram decides to put the price of > learning TM down to $100.00. Do you think Maharishi will support > that move without interfering, just as the Don supported Michael? > As we are all speculating. . . I question whether MMY has the ability anymore to intervene. However, if the price was dropped to $100, there is a good chance that others would intervene. I wonder what is the real power structure now and planned for the future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, whaddya call a Buddhist who is full of shit? Turdquoise B! :-) An excellent play if ever there was one.
[FairfieldLife] RIP Scott Girard
Purusha fellow. Just died of cardiovascular disease. Service this weekend at the Liberal Catholic Church here in FF. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I was on MIU faculty a long time ago, I dated more than one of my > students. It was no big deal. No one thought anything of it, and a > number of faculty members eventually married former students. There > was no big age discrepancy between faculty and students in those days. Did you date them at the same time you had them in one of your classes? Big power difference, even if not a large age difference. It is like me dating one of my employees, lots of risks there if things go wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Aras Baskauskas...
... is a yoga teacher of prolly Lithuanian ancestry! :0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Patrick Gillam
Hey, thanks kindly, Rick! It's good to be on the planet with all y'all. Here's a poem for the occasion: _Bugs in a Bowl_ Han Shan, that great and crazy, wonder-filled Chinese poet of a thousand years ago, said: We're just like bugs in a bowl. All day going around never leaving their bowl. I say, That's right! Every day climbing up the steep sides, sliding back. Over and over again. Around and around. Up and back down. Sit in the bottom of the bowl, head in your hands, cry, moan, feel sorry for yourself. Or. Look around. See your fellow bugs. Walk around. Say, Hey, how you doin'? Say, Nice Bowl! "Bugs in a Bowl," by David Budbill, from Moment to Moment: Poems of a Mountain Recluse (Copper Canyon Press) http://tinyurl.com/39h36d --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good to have you on the planet. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 7:44 PM >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:20 PM, The Secret wrote: I hadn't even bothered to read the subject line, and I had no idea that it was our favorite Enlightened Soul doing the complaining. Figures. Sal Actually, I'm more interested in meeting your favorite Enlightened Soul. He's back, posting under the name of sandiego108. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sure is nice to have a fully enlightened being > back with us, eh? > > I mean, now that Maharishi's on the verge of croak- > ing and all, isn't it good to be reminded of the > bliss, joy, contentment and peace of mind that lies > waiting for *all* of us if we just keep doing what > he told us to do. Y'know...the way Jim did. > > :-) > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- how's FiFi? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
As we are all speculating. . . > > I question whether MMY has the ability anymore to intervene. > > However, if the price was dropped to $100, there is a good chance that > others would intervene. I wonder what is the real power structure now > and planned for the future. I see lost business opportunity... The movement could re-position itself if they could get over their addiction to silliness and have another 70's style meditation teaching run I'll bet. They were ahead of the Ayurveda curve, and went only for the high end customer, then tried it with TM. But with a new marketing plan I'll bet there are plenty of aging boomer dollars to scoop up with a simple, natural meditation technique with some brand name recognition built in. I guess the Buddhist have been making inroads in the market for the person who doesn't want to change their life, but is interested in a few minutes of silence daily. But the aspects of the movement that made it work well in the 70's are long gone. No innocent fresh faced idealists, willing to put up posters for free, too many rich movement leaders who really don't understand the life most people live. And then there is the Raja problem... This is a boomer marketing killer on the scale of the recent Tom Cruise Scientology video. The boomer market can't buy in to such high camp. This product needs the simplicity vibe MMY had running for a while. Sri Sri and Amma have scooped up most of the "spiritual" meditation seekers. But the large majority of early meditators never bought into the big promises. They just liked an excuse to close their door on their family and carve out a little "me" time. And it worked fine till they dropped it like most people do most self help programs including exercise. But I'm telling you, there is an untapped market that the movement will miss because its head is too far up itself. I remember lecturing to hundreds of people in the DC area with the long form commercial campaign. Those people are still out there. A person who didn't have the baggage of all the mystical beliefs could deliver it. It wont be me, but Shemp? Anybody? MMY had the cuteness factor and the marketing "story". But he also came with a lot of built in mystical baggage as much as he tried to keep it cool. It needs to have a touch of ritual but not quite so over the top as the puja. I'm sure some of you out there already know about teachers working this angle. But no one has really gained the national recognition the movement had Perhaps the market is too fragmented to allow for that scale of fad again. I hope some people weigh in on this topic. I certainly am not the first person to travel this thought highway! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Let's say that, tomorrow, Nader Ram decides to put the price of > > learning TM down to $100.00. Do you think Maharishi will support > > that move without interfering, just as the Don supported Michael? > > > > > As we are all speculating. . . > > I question whether MMY has the ability anymore to intervene. > > However, if the price was dropped to $100, there is a good chance that > others would intervene. I wonder what is the real power structure now > and planned for the future. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
> speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our > continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- how's > FiFi? :-) Welcome back Jim. At first I thought you were trying to establish some new patterns with a new identity, but I can see that wasn't the purpose. So what did you learn as an temporarily anonymous poster? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > It sure is nice to have a fully enlightened being > > back with us, eh? > > > > I mean, now that Maharishi's on the verge of croak- > > ing and all, isn't it good to be reminded of the > > bliss, joy, contentment and peace of mind that lies > > waiting for *all* of us if we just keep doing what > > he told us to do. Y'know...the way Jim did. > > > > :-) > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our > continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- how's > FiFi? :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
In those days it was hard to fend the girls off, so I took the line of least resistance. You may perhaps think that an abuse of power and authority, but in truth I had little power and no authority, so I encountered no problems. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > When I was on MIU faculty a long time ago, I dated more than one of my > > students. It was no big deal. No one thought anything of it, and a > > number of faculty members eventually married former students. There > > was no big age discrepancy between faculty and students in those days. > > > Did you date them at the same time you had them in one of your > classes? Big power difference, even if not a large age difference. It > is like me dating one of my employees, lots of risks there if things > go wrong. >
[FairfieldLife] Noam's brief history of Merkin terrorism
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4920 I'll resist, mostly, going against my promise to Lurk to settle down about MURDERERS WE'VE ELECTED. Oops, my blurt. The above article shows Noam doing what I cannot do without fuming: he shows our tawdry American policies under Dems and Repugs in an easily read shorthand. Read it and weep. Probably, if you're a weepy type, you're already up on this history, but I found it bracing and clarifying to revisit. If Richard comes on strong and supports this history as the proper thing for Americans to have done, I may have to break my vow to Lurk. This Mideast history is as bad as the history of the American slavery era or the Nazi genocidal policies. And, Richard I have fully answered your "abortion defense," so don't even try that ruse again without going over my topic-of-abortion posts point by point. You can't get more spiritual than Satan . . . meaning Satan does major sinning which necessarily involves the subtle realms, and killing millions in the Middle East or gassing 6,000,000 Jews or raping the entire continent of Africa for slaves descends to that lowest of levels and surely is a devastating spiritual crime that must be atoned by American comeuppance of extreme degree. 2012 seems to be properly timed, yes? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: A life lesson for Maharishi from "The Godfather"
1968 versus 2008 : BeatlesversusHoward Stern; Idealism versus the extreme of Reaganism run amok; 'It's not a religion..mantra a meaningless sound' vs "MMY has fully revived Vedic culture"; TM 20 min 2X/day, practiced anywhere vs. TMSP several hours 2X / day, in group; Meditate, then enjoy activity -follow your traditions' vs. -Every step of life programmed; 'Take it (life) as it comes' vs. 'Your inherent birth chart has defects-have yagyas done- indefinitely. 'One - time fee to learn, & free lifetime checking' vs. 'The Vedic way of life is complete. We have outrageously expensive products available to address every aspect of your life, relative and divine'. The 2008 version of TM, with its all-consuming nature of every aspect of a person's dignity, time and resources is so repugnant to the concepts of simplicity and universality that gave TM its initial appeal. Perhaps something can be done to teach TM widely again, and if a new organization can create tremendous distance between itself and the current TMO, new trust could be established with the public which wisely now see TM for the sorry confiscatory program that it is. The current TMO, if it gave free instruction of TM, would have few takers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As we are all speculating. . . > > > > I question whether MMY has the ability anymore to intervene. > > > > However, if the price was dropped to $100, there is a good chance that > > others would intervene. I wonder what is the real power structure now > > and planned for the future. > > I see lost business opportunity... > > The movement could re-position itself if they could get over their > addiction to silliness and have another 70's style meditation teaching > run I'll bet. They were ahead of the Ayurveda curve, and went only > for the high end customer, then tried it with TM. But with a new > marketing plan I'll bet there are plenty of aging boomer dollars to > scoop up with a simple, natural meditation technique with some brand > name recognition built in. I guess the Buddhist have been making > inroads in the market for the person who doesn't want to change their > life, but is interested in a few minutes of silence daily. > > But the aspects of the movement that made it work well in the 70's are > long gone. No innocent fresh faced idealists, willing to put up > posters for free, too many rich movement leaders who really don't > understand the life most people live. And then there is the Raja > problem... This is a boomer marketing killer on the scale of the > recent Tom Cruise Scientology video. The boomer market can't buy in > to such high camp. This product needs the simplicity vibe MMY had > running for a while. Sri Sri and Amma have scooped up most of the > "spiritual" meditation seekers. But the large majority of early > meditators never bought into the big promises. They just liked an > excuse to close their door on their family and carve out a little "me" > time. And it worked fine till they dropped it like most people do > most self help programs including exercise. > > But I'm telling you, there is an untapped market that the movement > will miss because its head is too far up itself. > > I remember lecturing to hundreds of people in the DC area with the > long form commercial campaign. Those people are still out there. A > person who didn't have the baggage of all the mystical beliefs could > deliver it. It wont be me, but Shemp? Anybody? > > MMY had the cuteness factor and the marketing "story". But he also > came with a lot of built in mystical baggage as much as he tried to > keep it cool. It needs to have a touch of ritual but not quite so > over the top as the puja. I'm sure some of you out there already know > about teachers working this angle. But no one has really gained the > national recognition the movement had Perhaps the market is too > fragmented to allow for that scale of fad again. > > I hope some people weigh in on this topic. I certainly am not the > first person to travel this thought highway! > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's say that, tomorrow, Nader Ram decides to put the price of > > > learning TM down to $100.00. Do you think Maharishi will support > > > that move without interfering, just as the Don supported Michael? > > > > > > > > > As we are all speculating. . . > > > > I question whether MMY has the ability anymore to intervene. > > > > However, if the price was dropped to $100, there is a good chance that > > others would intervene. I wonder what is the real power structure now > > and planned for the future. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > It sure is nice to have a fully enlightened being > > > back with us, eh? > > > > > > I mean, now that Maharishi's on the verge of croak- > > > ing and all, isn't it good to be reminded of the > > > bliss, joy, contentment and peace of mind that lies > > > waiting for *all* of us if we just keep doing what > > > he told us to do. Y'know...the way Jim did. > > > > > > :-) > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here > > for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal > > lover"-- how's FiFi? :-) > > Just as a tip for you newbies...if you've ever > had any questions about enlightenment and couldn't > get to the microphone to ask Maharishi, here's your > opportunity to ask a real, genuine, TM-enlightened > master. Jim Flanegin (now posting as sandiego108) is > not only enlightened, he experiences Brahman on a > fairly regular basis and his cognitions are by def- > iniion (at least his definition) Truth...just ask him. You don't even have to ask him. Just watch Barry tying himself into enraged knots like a demon at an exorcism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:47 PM, authfriend wrote: Just as a tip for you newbies...if you've ever had any questions about enlightenment and couldn't get to the microphone to ask Maharishi, here's your opportunity to ask a real, genuine, TM-enlightened master. Jim Flanegin (now posting as sandiego108) is not only enlightened, he experiences Brahman on a fairly regular basis and his cognitions are by def- iniion (at least his definition) Truth...just ask him. You don't even have to ask him. Just watch Barry tying himself into enraged knots like a demon at an exorcism. Judy, anyone who sees rage in Barry's jibing is seriously in need of getting out more. IMO of course. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: [snip] > > These are but a few of the questions I and other seekers > > have for you, O guru, now that you're back. Start with > > these, and we'll try to work up some others that are > > worthy of you. > > > spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you > call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your "wee-pain" around in > my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? :-) Is that really Jim Flanegin?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: These are but a few of the questions I and other seekers have for you, O guru, now that you're back. Start with these, and we'll try to work up some others that are worthy of you. spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your "wee-pain" around in my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? :-) Is that really Jim Flanegin? The Enlightened One himself, flex, stepping down from Mt. Olympus to give us paltry mortals the benefit of his sensitive and kind observations, as per the lovely piece of drivel above. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:47 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> Just as a tip for you newbies...if you've ever > >> had any questions about enlightenment and couldn't > >> get to the microphone to ask Maharishi, here's your > >> opportunity to ask a real, genuine, TM-enlightened > >> master. Jim Flanegin (now posting as sandiego108) is > >> not only enlightened, he experiences Brahman on a > >> fairly regular basis and his cognitions are by def- > >> iniion (at least his definition) Truth...just ask him. > > > > You don't even have to ask him. Just watch Barry > > tying himself into enraged knots like a demon at > > an exorcism. > > Judy, anyone who sees rage in Barry's jibing is seriously in > need of getting out more. IMO of course. And I'd say anyone who *doesn't* see the rage behind Barry's jibing is seriously in need of getting out more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > >>> These are but a few of the questions I and other seekers > >>> have for you, O guru, now that you're back. Start with > >>> these, and we'll try to work up some others that are > >>> worthy of you. > >>> > >> spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you > >> call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your "wee-pain" around in > >> my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? :-) > > > > > > Is that really Jim Flanegin? > > The Enlightened One himself, flex, stepping down from Mt. Olympus to > give us paltry mortals the benefit of his sensitive and kind > observations, as per the lovely piece of drivel above. > > Sal How utterly repellent. Any shred of 'benefit of the doubt' I had for him just went flying out the window. What a dirtbag.
[FairfieldLife] The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
"You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of > 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True > realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for > Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." > > Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog. BillyG, there's a whole lot of beautiful stuff from Guru Dev at Paul's website here: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm
[FairfieldLife] Atonement
I don't know why, but from the moment I heard about this film I had expectations of it running through my head. Somehow, and for some unknown reason, I expected it to be one of those upper-class Brit morality plays full of upper-class twit-Brits and repressed sexuality and emotion. People talked about Keira Knightly as if she were really good in it, and I guess I took that with a grain of salt, too, because I've never been all that impressed by her. At any rate, I really didn't go out of my way to see it. My mistake. It's pretty much a masterful film made from what must be an even more masterful novel. It's not just Keira Knightly who is good in it, but *every- one* in the production, especially James MacAvoy and the three "generations" of actresses playing Briony Tallis, especially the last. Several people here have suggested their favorite films of the year so far. I've seen all of them, and thought that each of the FFL reviewers was onto some- thing with their "nominations." But that was before I saw "Atonement." This is my fave so far. Really good film. The kind you'll want to stay in your seat for after the credits roll and watch it a second time. It's that good. Keira Knightly got an Oscar nod for this film, and deserves it. But who should have gotten another one, for only seven minutes of screen time, is Vanessa Redgrave.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!
Looking back on those MIU days during the 70s and early 80s it's easy to understand why there was a frequent sexual exchange going on. First, the community was small, the selection pool was limited so dorky guys and gals who had it tough in high school did better at MIU. Next, since there was common ground of TM experience and philosophy, this kind of legitimized the process between partners. Next, since we were unstressing, especially on courses, what better way to relieve stress than to go out and get a good screw by simply walking the dorms and halls of [EMAIL PROTECTED], the woman's dorms, the men's dorms, etc. Selection of partners was promoted by the ebb and flow of Being, it all just worked out naturally. And then there were the good looking people, the teachers, the administrators of power, etc., which gave them a 'leg up' on the whole process. But it was fun because as a natural extension of TM, it just seemed to flow as a part of that natural process, meet someone, go to bed, and then meet someone else. It's not like it was an orgy at MIU because the basis of the whole thing was really nice people. We all got along really well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > "You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of > > 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True > > realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for > > Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." > > > > Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog. > > > BillyG, there's a whole lot of beautiful stuff from Guru Dev at Paul's > website here: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm Amazing how 'thirsty' we all are, still, for knowledge, even after 50 years of MMY!! It's refreshing to hear the unvarnished truth as expounded by Guru Dev; this science crap has got to go, yuck, gag me with a spoon! But sadly, it may be necessary in this age of kali-yuga ignorance!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If *you* claim all this and then act like an idiot, > doesn't it kinda make it look like what Maharishi's > teachings *produce* is idiocy? > What does the "B" in "Turdquoise B" stand for, anyway? "Bitch"? Cuz that's all I hear from your direction- a little whiny bitch. Oh, right, because of your dog... hey bitch did I forget to act enlightened? Or should I get in touch with my "inner asshole"? or do we just do that when we're drinking? Damn, clue me in Turdquoise, I'm gettin' lost out here in Reality ...bitch. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > > > "You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of > > > 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True > > > realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for > > > Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." > > > > > > Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog. > > > > > > BillyG, there's a whole lot of beautiful stuff from Guru Dev at Paul's > > website here: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm > > Amazing how 'thirsty' we all are, still, for knowledge, even after 50 > years of MMY!! It's refreshing to hear the unvarnished truth as > expounded by Guru Dev; this science crap has got to go, yuck, gag me > with a spoon! But sadly, it may be necessary in this age of kali-yuga > ignorance!! Luckily there is a lot of wonderful, powerful and deeply meaningful stuff from Guru Dev to fill the empty places.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
On Jan 26, 2008, at 3:05 PM, BillyG. wrote: "You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog. If one so desires, one can receive all sorts of instruction into the various shaktis. And it's often gratis/donation or very inexpensive to do so. I imagine one could even find a Hindu priest with tantric experience who could do it for a couple of dollars or a few rupees. The Buddhist tantric ishtas are also very accessible nowadays, again very reasonably. So there is no obstacle for the interested people...knock and it will open...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Judy is so gone that she's on record as thinking > that I'm a demon and that you're *exorcising* me. :-) No, she's not. But Barry sure is on record as thinking that's what I said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev spits out the truth.....
BillyG. wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: >> >>> "You must get to know the Mantra of your 'ISHTA' and the method of >>> 'Dhyana' (meditation) thereof, through an experienced 'SATGURU' (True >>> realized GURU) and somehow or other devote some time every day for >>> Japa (repetition) of the 'Ishta Mantra' ..." >>> >>> Credits to Paul Mason for post on TMfreeblog. >>> >> BillyG, there's a whole lot of beautiful stuff from Guru Dev at Paul's >> website here: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm >> > > Amazing how 'thirsty' we all are, still, for knowledge, even after 50 > years of MMY!! It's refreshing to hear the unvarnished truth as > expounded by Guru Dev; this science crap has got to go, yuck, gag me > with a spoon! But sadly, it may be necessary in this age of kali-yuga > ignorance!! In his book "Meditation and Mantras" Swami Devananda on page 62 explains by his tradition how a guru selects a ishta devata for a devotee. Keep in mind rules change from tradition to tradition and I also have some tantra books that show how to select it from the astrological chart. And in some traditions there are two levels of meditation: one for the masses where "safe" mantras are used and one for "initiates" where the guru mantra for the tradition is given.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Important massage for all TM Teachers= puja everyday .....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Rajas seem to be saying: "We don't know what to do without overbearing direction". I > guess we can't go wrong if we do puja everyday..so, do puja daily for the next month; > let's agree that doing puja is the most beneficial thing for world" > > If these TMO leaders would get a clue and remember that performance of puja ideally > takes place when a person learns TM, perhaps they would dedicate their actions to actually > creating new meditators. Ask this of the Rajas--- How many new meditators have the 47 > Rajas initiated in the past two decades? But, it's not about teaching TM anymore, is it ? > It's all about self-aggrandizement through ostentatious displays of wealth. > > MMY will haunt the Rajas after he passes (he has already begun) , for ruining his TMO. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: > > > > Subject: FW: IMPORTANT MASSAGE FOR ALL GOVERNORS > > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:07:51 -0600 > > > > Dear Governors and Initiators, > > > > > > We are forwarding this email as requested. This is all we know for > > now. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > > > Cheryl Beckett, Dan Swanson, Gail Lynch, Reve Fraser, Rusty Fraser > > > > January 23, 2008 > > > > > > All Governors and Initiators have been asked to do Puja every day > > this month. Please let all your Governors and TM teachers in your > > area know. These are times of large potential change and we can help > > ourselves and all mankind through these offerings. We should be > > aware of change and be prepared for change. We as a body of Teachers > > of TM are always united through this common expression of gratitude. > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > With All Best Wishes > > > > > > Raja Tom Stanley > > Does that mean the decertified (unrecertified ?) initiators, governors? The ones in improper vastu too ? The unUnited Teachers too? What is that number? About 50? JohnY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Atonement
TurquoiseB wrote: > I don't know why, but from the moment I heard about > this film I had expectations of it running through > my head. Somehow, and for some unknown reason, I > expected it to be one of those upper-class Brit > morality plays full of upper-class twit-Brits and > repressed sexuality and emotion. People talked about > Keira Knightly as if she were really good in it, and > I guess I took that with a grain of salt, too, because > I've never been all that impressed by her. At any rate, > I really didn't go out of my way to see it. > > My mistake. It's pretty much a masterful film made > from what must be an even more masterful novel. It's > not just Keira Knightly who is good in it, but *every- > one* in the production, especially James MacAvoy and > the three "generations" of actresses playing Briony > Tallis, especially the last. > > Several people here have suggested their favorite > films of the year so far. I've seen all of them, and > thought that each of the FFL reviewers was onto some- > thing with their "nominations." But that was before I > saw "Atonement." This is my fave so far. > > Really good film. The kind you'll want to stay in > your seat for after the credits roll and watch it > a second time. It's that good. > > Keira Knightly got an Oscar nod for this film, and > deserves it. But who should have gotten another one, > for only seven minutes of screen time, is Vanessa > Redgrave. I haven't seen it as it sounded like a "chick flick" by its slugline but I may make it out and see it this week as it is still at the local arthouse. Usually I reserve such films for rentals.
[FairfieldLife] What must they think?
FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they’re required to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ FairfieldLife/ and figure they’ve stumbled upon a pretty cool, open-minded group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don’t have to leave comments when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate loss IMO. Don’t the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don’t understand how people can tolerate indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It’s self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they're required > to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on > HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ > FairfieldLife/ and figure they've stumbled upon a pretty cool, open-minded > group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see > many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don't have to leave comments > when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the > bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate > loss IMO. Don't the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, > forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don't understand how people can tolerate > indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It's > self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look > within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick?
[FairfieldLife] Re: only chickenshit people are afraid of the truth tm leaders are sex pervs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In those days it was hard to fend the girls off, so I took the line of > least resistance. You may perhaps think that an abuse of power and > authority, but in truth I had little power and no authority, so I > encountered no problems. > I can understand that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
Sandiego: speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- how's FiFi? :-) Curits: Welcome back Jim. At first I thought you were trying to establish some new patterns with a new identity, but I can see that wasn't the purpose. So what did you learn as an temporarily anonymous poster? I say this is NOT Jim. You're not gonna get Jim being this crude, OR mean. I'll put money on it.
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] What must they think?I eradicate with my delete button
There is a second method I use I do NOT respond & there by do not feed the anger & negative thoughts all too common here Rick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: 1/26/2008 4:16:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: [FairfieldLife] What must they think? FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they’re required to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/) and figure they’ve stumbled upon a pretty cool, open-minded group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don’t have to leave comments when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate loss IMO. Don’t the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don’t understand how people can tolerate indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It’s self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7 :44 PM **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your "wee-pain" around in my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? :-) No, this ain't Jim. Can't be. This was not Jim's personality. What makes others think this is Flanagan?
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: FW: Two Wolves Re; negative thoughts on this cite do NOT feed the WOLF
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/25/2008 9:17:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: FW: Two Wolves From: Rosemary Flaxy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:31 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Fwd: Two Wolves Best I've heard it explained!! Two wolves One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, "My son, the battle is between two "wolves" inside us all. One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Sandiego: > > > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is > > > "mffmmffmm..." > > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here > > > for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal > > > lover"-- how's FiFi? :-) > > > > Curtis: > > > > Welcome back Jim. At first I thought you were trying to > > establish some new patterns with a new identity, but I > > can see that wasn't the purpose. So what did you learn > > as an temporarily anonymous poster? > > I say this is NOT Jim. You're not gonna get Jim being > this crude, OR mean. I'll put money on it. >From post #162123, after I had suggested that he still had...uh...unresolved issues towards Buddhists. Note the geographical location, note the fact that he knows my name even though it hasn't come up since "sandiego108" has been on FFL, note the characteristic need to defend his enlightened self from any criticism. It's Jim. And just as enlightened as he's always been. > FYI-- > > San Francisco Asian Art Museum > AsiaAlive: Korean Buddhist Art > Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 > Start Time: 12:00 pm End Time: 4:00 pm > (Time Zone: US/Pacific) > Location: (Bogart) North Court > > Category: Demonstrations and Activities > > Description > Inspired by the hugely successful series on traditional Korean > Buddhist arts in 2003, the museum is thrilled to present another > artist residency by three gifted Korean monk/artists: Seol Min > seunim (a female monk and master painter formerly called Jae U > seunim), Myung Chun seunim (also a renowned artist), and Sung Ryun > seunim. The program will consist of painting demonstrations and > hands-on activities for the public. Visitors may create their own > woodblock prints of a Buddhist sutra, the "Heart Sutra," (Banya > Simgyeong in Korean), as well as create rubbings of the Buddha and a > stone pagoda. The program will culminate on January 20 with a sacred > eye-opening ceremony of two hanging scrolls that the monks are > donating to the museum. > > In 2003, Seol Min seunim completed a new painting of the Guardian > King of the West, which she then donated to the Asian Art Museum. To > see photographs related to this program, please click here. > = > > You should have been there Barry- I was. My wife made a wonderful > rubbing of an image of Buddha. The Buddhist monks were painting when > we were there. Also it was amazing to wander the galleries and look > at the many statues of Buddha and Hindu gods. Filled with silence. I > will be back! > > PS Just for contrast, I haven't visited a TM facility in about ten > years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > It sure is nice to have a fully enlightened being > > > back with us, eh? > > > > > > I mean, now that Maharishi's on the verge of croak- > > > ing and all, isn't it good to be reminded of the > > > bliss, joy, contentment and peace of mind that lies > > > waiting for *all* of us if we just keep doing what > > > he told us to do. Y'know...the way Jim did. > > > > > > :-) > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here > > for our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal > > lover"-- how's FiFi? :-) > > Just as a tip for you newbies...if you've ever > had any questions about enlightenment and couldn't > get to the microphone to ask Maharishi, here's your > opportunity to ask a real, genuine, TM-enlightened > master. Jim Flanegin (now posting as sandiego108) is > not only enlightened, he experiences Brahman on a > fairly regular basis and his cognitions are by def- > iniion (at least his definition) Truth...just ask him. How do you know this is Jim ? You don't. You simply never got over the fact that Jim got enlightened by TM while you are still stuck in your pretentious mud.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > These are but a few of the questions I and other seekers > > > have for you, O guru, now that you're back. Start with > > > these, and we'll try to work up some others that are > > > worthy of you. > > > > > spew on Turdquoise- you're as easy to bait as that limp fish you > > call your dick. Oh, and feel free to wave your "wee-pain" around in > > my absence- we're impressed! PS How's Fido? :-) > > > Is that really Jim Flanegin? No it is not.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:02 PM, do.rflex wrote: What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? You have to be breathing. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they're required > to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on > HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/"http://groups.yahoo.co m/group/ > FairfieldLife/ and figure they've stumbled upon a pretty cool, open- minded > group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see > many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don't have to leave comments > when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the > bickering and trash talk Spot on ! that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate > loss IMO. Don't the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, forgiveness, acceptance, Should be. And Rich Archer could try it himself. etc? I don't understand how people can tolerate > indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It's > self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look > within Why not start analyzing your own motfis Rich Archer ? and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. One can only hope. But rumourmonging seems to be in many peoples bloodstreams.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sandiego: > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear is "mffmmffmm..." > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for our > continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- how's > FiFi? :-) > > > Curits: > > Welcome back Jim. At first I thought you were trying to establish some > new patterns with a new identity, but I can see that wasn't the purpose. > So what did you learn as an temporarily anonymous poster? > > I say this is NOT Jim. You're not gonna get Jim being this crude, OR > mean. I'll put money on it. Ofcourse it is not Jim. It is interesting to see how much frustration one man created in the minds of frustrated souls like Turq et al by claiming to have achieved enlightenment with TM. Since Jim is only one in many, many that will achieve enlightenment in the months and years to come, one can but wonder what effect that will have on the boring nitwits who never took the Knowledge very seriously in the first place anyway - "Governors" or not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sandiego: > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear > > is "mffmmffmm..." > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for > > our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- > > how's FiFi? :-) > > Ofcourse it is not Jim. It is interesting to see how much frustration > one man created in the minds of frustrated souls like Turq et al by > claiming to have achieved enlightenment with TM. Since Jim is only > one in many, many that will achieve enlightenment in the months and > years to come, one can but wonder what effect that will have on the > boring nitwits who never took the Knowledge very seriously in the > first place anyway - "Governors" or not. Ok, Nabby, assume it's not Jim. It's some *other* person. I was wrong. So give us your assessment of the state of consciousness *of* this other person. What *is* the state of consciousness -- according to you and what you have learned from MMY and Benny Hill...uh, sorry...Benny Creme of the person who thinks and talks like this? I'm interested in hearing your assessment. In your opinion, would someone who went on like this about fucking dogs be a *possible* can- didate for enlightenment, or are they as lost in Maya as I am? We already know what you think of me, so use me as a "barometer" to measure sandiego108 with. Is he *as* low-vibe as I am, more low-vibe, or less low-vibe? We know you don't believe that it's Jim. But is it possible that this *other* person I have mistaken for Jim is enlightened?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > Sandiego: > > > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear > > > is "mffmmffmm..." > > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for > > > our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"- - > > > how's FiFi? :-) > > > > Ofcourse it is not Jim. It is interesting to see how much frustration > > one man created in the minds of frustrated souls like Turq et al by > > claiming to have achieved enlightenment with TM. Since Jim is only > > one in many, many that will achieve enlightenment in the months and > > years to come, one can but wonder what effect that will have on the > > boring nitwits who never took the Knowledge very seriously in the > > first place anyway - "Governors" or not. > > Ok, Nabby, assume it's not Jim. > > It's some *other* person. I was wrong. > > So give us your assessment of the state of > consciousness *of* this other person. What > *is* the state of consciousness -- according > to you and what you have learned from MMY and > Benny Hill...uh, sorry...Benny Creme of the > person who thinks and talks like this? > > I'm interested in hearing your assessment. No you are not. Evidence found to sentences above.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time outJUSAT IGNORE IT
NO TIME OUT IGNORE IT DO NOT ENCOURAGE BY KEEPING UP THE PRATTLE In a message dated 1/26/2008 6:28:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > Sandiego: > > > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear > > > is "mffmmffmm..." > > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for > > > our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"- - > > > how's FiFi? :-) > > > > Ofcourse it is not Jim. It is interesting to see how much frustration > > one man created in the minds of frustrated souls like Turq et al by > > claiming to have achieved enlightenment with TM. Since Jim is only > > one in many, many that will achieve enlightenment in the months and > > years to come, one can but wonder what effect that will have on the > > boring nitwits who never took the Knowledge very seriously in the > > first place anyway - "Governors" or not. > > Ok, Nabby, assume it's not Jim. > > It's some *other* person. I was wrong. > > So give us your assessment of the state of > consciousness *of* this other person. What > *is* the state of consciousness -- according > to you and what you have learned from MMY and > Benny Hill...uh, sorry...Benny Creme of the > person who thinks and talks like this? > > I'm interested in hearing your assessment. No you are not. Evidence found to sentences above. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out JUST KEEP SILENT
In a message dated 1/26/2008 6:25:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sandiego: > > > > speak up please Turdquoise...all I hear > > is "mffmmffmm..." > > cuz your mouth is so full of shit. Just what we need on here for > > our continuing spiritual education-- an impotent "animal lover"-- > > how's FiFi? :-) > > Ofcourse it is not Jim. It is interesting to see how much frustration > one man created in the minds of frustrated souls like Turq et al by > claiming to have achieved enlightenment with TM. Since Jim is only > one in many, many that will achieve enlightenment in the months and > years to come, one can but wonder what effect that will have on the > boring nitwits who never took the Knowledge very seriously in the > first place anyway - "Governors" or not. Ok, Nabby, assume it's not Jim. It's some *other* person. I was wrong. So give us your assessment of the state of consciousness *of* this other person. What *is* the state of consciousness -- according to you and what you have learned from MMY and Benny Hill...uh, sorry...Benny Creme of the person who thinks and talks like this? I'm interested in hearing your assessment. In your opinion, would someone who went on like this about fucking dogs be a *possible* can- didate for enlightenment, or are they as lost in Maya as I am? We already know what you think of me, so use me as a "barometer" to measure sandiego108 with. Is he *as* low-vibe as I am, more low-vibe, or less low-vibe? We know you don't believe that it's Jim. But is it possible that this *other* person I have mistaken for Jim is enlightened? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] What must they think?
On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Rick Archer wrote: FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they’re required to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and figure they’ve stumbled upon a pretty cool, open-minded group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don’t have to leave comments when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate loss IMO. Don’t the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don’t understand how people can tolerate indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It’s self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. There are spiritual jihadists everywhere is all FFL tells us. And watching a movement, supposedly consisting of millions of people, "crashing" and that there are some who will wring their necks to watch what goes on here, just like a slow motion train wreck. What's so surprising about that? I guess what is surprising is that some would feign the opportunity to catalyze and join together. Move beyond differences. That, to me, is a weird idea. Instant Karma sometimes does get the billionaire renunciates. Many wait to watch the wreck, but few volunteer to join the blow-by-blow commentary? Why should we pretend to be surprised? We all shine on. For Mahesh, on his death bed, from me and John: Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna knock you right on the head You better get yourself together Pretty soon you're gonna be dead What in the world you thinking of Laughing in the face of love What on earth you tryin' to do It's up to you, yeah you Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna look you right in the face Better get yourself together darlin' Join the human race How in the world you gonna see Laughin' at fools like me Who in the hell d'you think you are A super star Well, right you are Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Well we all shine on Ev'ryone come on Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna knock you off your feet Better recognize your brothers Ev'ryone you meet Why in the world are we here Surely not to live in pain and fear Why on earth are you there When you're ev'rywhere Come and get your share Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Yeah we all shine on Come on and on and on on on Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Yeah we all shine on On and on and on on and on Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Well we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun Yeah we all shine on Like the moon and the stars and the sun
[FairfieldLife] 'The Real Fairytale...'
The real fairytale is this: Bill Clinton says that he would support Hillary, Even if he wasn't married to her. Give me a break! How could it be, that Mr.1st Black President- Would turn to the spoiler of: The real first Black Presidential candidate. Liar, liar, pants on fire, Mr. Former President Clinton! - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RIP Scott Girard
Holy Cow! Rick, Scott was on Purusha right from the beginning, right? Very friendly, but quiet guy. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Purusha fellow. Just died of cardiovascular disease. > Service this weekend at > the Liberal Catholic Church here in FF. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - > Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 7:44 PM > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Busy Fairfield Life
Lot of people here on FFL seem from out of town. Just to share a little of our in-town experience living here in Fairfield, the Weekly Reader is a way we keep schedule here. Is busy enough that a lot of choices have to be made between things off-campus. http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ For instance, I started off the morning at the Fairfield Economic Development Summit and then went over to the Mother Divine mantras & yantra workshop, spent meditating a lot of the day long workshop. Tonight is the musical, 'funny thing happened on the way to the forum' staged in town here at the new performing arts facility. Someone's birthday party too in the Ammachi satsang. http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ Scroll down further below on the website and you'll get the idea. This is just the off-campus things going on in the meditating community. It's a pretty good place. -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
4 to 8 new members a week? Hmmm. I wonder: does the TMO get more initiations per week nation- wide or does FFL? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. I see the comments they're required > to make when they sign up. Many are intrigued by the description on > HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/"http://groups.yahoo.co m/group/ > FairfieldLife/ and figure they've stumbled upon a pretty cool, open- minded > group of spiritual seekers. For the most part, they have, but I also see > many of them unsubscribe after a few days. They don't have to leave comments > when they unsubscribe, but I suspect that many of them are turned off by the > bickering and trash talk that sometimes prevails. This is an unfortunate > loss IMO. Don't the spiritual traditions which we all respect advocate love, > forgiveness, acceptance, etc? I don't understand how people can tolerate > indulging in negative feelings and behavior for weeks, months, years. It's > self-polluting. I should think spiritual seekers would be inclined to look > within and locate the source of such impulses, and try to eradicate it. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 > 7:44 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick. I think Turq needs a time out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > > wrote: > > I vote he gets suspended for a week, and then we'll see. There's > > definitely a line between keeping this an open forum, and just > > ceaselessly dragging it into the gutter. > > > > > > Fuck you asshole. I'll take 1000 of his posts to one of you mamby > pamby > > whines. > > > I think you meant this to go to Turdquoise, he's the one who wants to > fuck your asshole, asshole. > Well, I'm going to take at least a week time out. The temporary civility of FFL is gone and the rancor and language is jarring. Bye.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
He was a jolly guy who I hadn't thought of in years. RIP indeed Scotty.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jymbonic Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard He was a jolly guy who I hadn't thought of in years. RIP indeed Scotty. The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn’t exercise because “Exercise isn’t part of our tradition.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think? What's the criteria for being accepted to post, Rick? Just that their desire to join is sincere. That they’re not a spammer. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
Gossip Opportunity: I see the Divine Mother workshop was led by the Rev. Connie Huebner. Are she and David still married? What's he doing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lot of people here on FFL seem from out of town. Just to share a > little of our in-town experience living here in Fairfield, the Weekly > Reader is a way we keep schedule here. Is busy enough that a lot of > choices have to be made between things off-campus. > > http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ > > For instance, I started off the morning at the Fairfield Economic > Development Summit and then went over to the Mother Divine mantras & > yantra workshop, spent meditating a lot of the day long workshop. > Tonight is the musical, 'funny thing happened on the way to the forum' > staged in town here at the new performing arts facility. Someone's > birthday party too in the Ammachi satsang. > > > http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ > > Scroll down further below on the website and you'll get the idea. This > is just the off-campus things going on in the meditating community. > > It's a pretty good place. > > -Doug in FF >
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet > recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise > because "Exercise isn't part of our tradition." That would be ironic only if the type of cardiovascular disease he had would have been prevented or remedied by exercise during the time he was in Purusha.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet > > recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise > > because "Exercise isn't part of our tradition." > > That would be ironic only if the type of > cardiovascular disease he had would have > been prevented or remedied by exercise > during the time he was in Purusha. > ** http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap1f.html "The cave was ideal for Tat Wale Baba. It had only a tiny opening which was barely visible from the passing trail. If the opening was sealed from within by a rock the cave was secluded completely. The cave was also conveniently located near a fresh water spring. And, its location of about one kilometer from Swargashram made it easy for Tat Wale Baba to go there to obtain his food supply. However, after some time, Tat Wale Baba felt that the daily trips to the ashram for food were too disturbing for him. So, he decided to forage for food in the ambient forest where he found kandamulo leaves and roots, and fruits to sustain him. He foraged for food only occasionally, gathering a sufficient supply to last him for several days at a time. He ate sparingly during these secluded periods of long silence. Tat Wale Baba's regular schedule of meditating was from 2:00 a.m. until 10:00 a.m. From 10:00 a.m. until noon he would eat and rest. Then, from noon until 4:00 p.m. he would again meditate. He would exercise for about two hours, until 6:00 p.m. For exercise he usually took long walks of about ten kilometers, collected firewood, and worked hard at expanding the dimensions of his cave. He only did a few asanas (yoga postures). Instead, he preferred to meditate." * Most people on this list have heard MMY talk about how Guru Dev used to hand MMY a note, saying it was urgent that it be delivered quickly to a monk at some other ashram. MMY would run to deliver the note, and only found out much later that the note read something like "I'm fine, how are you. Please tell the messenger to return your reply quickly."
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. >> Lol...don't kid yourself Rick, that is just Shemp creating as many new accounts as he can. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of jymbonic > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:03 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard > > > > He was a jolly guy who I hadn't thought of in years. RIP indeed Scotty. > > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet recently Maharishi > told Purusha they shouldn't exercise because "Exercise isn't part of our > tradition." To wit. ...and what have I been telling you people about doing the TM Program properly? It's the TM Technique twice a day and then YOUR tradition the rest of the day, not some Hindu monk's tradition. It's a wonder this Scot lasted as long as he did. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 > 3:45 PM >
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet > > recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise > > because "Exercise isn't part of our tradition." > > That would be ironic only if the type of > cardiovascular disease he had would have > been prevented or remedied by exercise > during the time he was in Purusha. Pray tell, Doctor Stein, are you saying that there are instances in which exercise is NOT a good thing?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What must they think?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > >>> > > > FFL gets about 4-8 new members a week. >> > > Lol...don't kid yourself Rick, that is just Shemp creating as many new > accounts as he can. > > OffWorld > Actually, OffWorld is one of my alter-ego's that I've been using to skirt the 50-post-a-week rule. OffWorld doesn't exist as he is just a figment of my imagination. I took the schmuckiest and most irritating part of my personality and asked myself: how would he act and what should I call him? And I came up with OffWorld. And I've never even been to Vermont! So, now you've all been forewarned. Oh, and one more thing: the OffWorld part of my psyche is SO real that sometimes he actually thinks he exists and sometimes he has a mind of its own, so I suspect he will respond to this email with invectives and denials. Just ignore them. I'm working out the kinks.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Gillam Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Busy Fairfield Life Gossip Opportunity: I see the Divine Mother workshop was led by the Rev. Connie Huebner. Are she and David still married? What's he doing? Still married and doing fine. I don’t know what he does for a living. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:38 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet > > recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise > > because "Exercise isn't part of our tradition." > > That would be ironic only if the type of > cardiovascular disease he had would have > been prevented or remedied by exercise > during the time he was in Purusha. Pray tell, Doctor Stein, are you saying that there are instances in which exercise is NOT a good thing? I was going to make a similar comment. I’m no medical expert, but I can’t imagine a cardiologist telling anyone that exercise wouldn’t benefit them, unless they were so ill that the slightest exertion might kill them. I’ve seen people in their 90’s who had gotten proper exercise all their lives and could still run, ski, etc. Maharishi, who has been sedentary, has been bound to a wheelchair for several years. If non-exercise is part of his tradition, then the tradition is deficient. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
[FairfieldLife] 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter'
Op-Ed Contributor A President Like My Father By CAROLINE KENNEDY Published: January 27, 2008 OVER the years, Ive been deeply moved by the people whove told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama. Skip to next paragraph My reasons are patriotic, political and personal, and the three are intertwined. All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals. Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible. We have that kind of opportunity with Senator Obama. It isnt that the other candidates are not experienced or knowledgeable. But this year, that may not be enough. We need a change in the leadership of this country just as we did in 1960. Most of us would prefer to base our voting decision on policy differences. However, the candidates goals are similar. They have all laid out detailed plans on everything from strengthening our middle class to investing in early childhood education. So qualities of leadership, character and judgment play a larger role than usual. Senator Obama has demonstrated these qualities throughout his more than two decades of public service, not just in the United States Senate but in Illinois, where he helped turn around struggling communities, taught constitutional law and was an elected state official for eight years. And Senator Obama is showing the same qualities today. He has built a movement that is changing the face of politics in this country, and he has demonstrated a special gift for inspiring young people known for a willingness to volunteer, but an aversion to politics to become engaged in the political process. I have spent the past five years working in the New York City public schools and have three teenage children of my own. There is a generation coming of age that is hopeful, hard-working, innovative and imaginative. But too many of them are also hopeless, defeated and disengaged. As parents, we have a responsibility to help our children to believe in themselves and in their power to shape their future. Senator Obama is inspiring my children, my parents grandchildren, with that sense of possibility. Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning. I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved. I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans. Caroline Kennedy is the author of A Patriots Handbook: Songs, Poems, Stories and Speeches Celebrating the Land We Love. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter'
> A President Like My Father >By CAROLINE KENNEDY [snip] > I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell > me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe > I have found the man who could be that president not just for me, > but for a new generation of Americans. Good! Maybe Barack, like her father, will give us another Vietnam.
[FairfieldLife] Lights make milk taste bad
http://hubpages.com/hub/For_Flavor__Buy_your_Milk_in_the_Dark Robert Marshall, University of Missouri Professor says buy milk placed in the dark corners. Does your milk taste like wet cardboard? Blame the bright lights in your market's dairy section. Robert Marshall, University of Missouri food science professor said milk when exposed to fluorescent light has a bitter taste. If the milk is stored within a few inches of fluorescent light in translucent shelves, has an oxidized flavor within a few hours and distinct off flavor after 12 hours. Marshall the closer the milk stays to the lights and longer it stays there it creates an off flavor which other experts also call it as "burnt" flavor. The good news is these lights have little effect on milk's nutritional value and is not related to bacteria, however fluorescent light inactivates riboflavin (vitamin B2) and ascorbic acid (vitamin C). The researchers say Whole milk variety suffers the least compared to other low percent and low fat milk varieties. The high level of fat present in whole milk blocks out the damaging light wavelengths, but other milk varieties will lose its flavor when exposed to fluorescent lights. Milk in glass and translucent plastic containers are affected quickly with fluorescent light, while opaque paper board containers prevents this off flavor problems, the best. Marshall recommends buying milk from the deepest corners where the milk receives less light, but definitely not from the front rows. I think the groceries stores and marketplaces should start using LEDs which doesn't seem to affect the food and keeps the foods fresh a longer time. The LED's doesn't emit ultraviolet or infrared lights which are harmful and spoils the foodstuffs. One supermarket place, Migros in Switzerland is incorporating this, since the local superstores are not doing this, we better take the milk from the back rows not the front ones. Or go to the farmer's market and get fresh milk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Scott Girard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > The irony is that he died of cardiovascular disease, yet > > recently Maharishi told Purusha they shouldn't exercise > > because "Exercise isn't part of our tradition." > > That would be ironic only if the type of > cardiovascular disease he had would have > been prevented or remedied by exercise > during the time he was in Purusha. > ** Exercise may not be a critical factor in preventing heart disease, which is probably due to diet factors: http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/140/12/1007 Conclusions: Aerobic physical exercise did not attenuate progression of atherosclerosis, except in a subgroup of men not taking statins.
[FairfieldLife] The Ability To Inspire (was Re: 'Renewed Hope for JFK's Daughter')
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A President Like My Father >By CAROLINE KENNEDY > All my life, people have told me that my father changed > their lives, that they got involved in public service or > politics because he asked them to. And the generation he > inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet > young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was > president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals. > Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has > a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to > tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that > together we can do great things. In those rare moments, > when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our > plans and reach for what we know is possible. the rest. You get the point. Ms. Kennedy feels the same breath of fresh air coming from Barack Obama that I do, that all-important Ability To Inspire. I've been thinking about this ability a lot lately, as a result of posts on this forum and others. On each of them, one or more people have attempted to "Declare Things True." They stood up on their key- board soap boxes and screamed out, "This is what is true. This other stuff that these other people here are saying is NOT true. And the fact that they're saying it means that they're low-vibe, unevolved poopypants doo-doo heads." I made the last part about the poopypants and doo- doo heads up; the Declare Things True types used... uh...more colorful and scatalogical language. They threw as many F-bombs into their declarations of what they think Truth is as humanly possible. And ya know what? No one paid a *damned* bit of attention to them. Oh, a few folks shrugged and said to themselves, "Oh, *he's* back again...still as enlightened as ever, still declaring that he knows the Truth about things and that no one else does." A few hurled a few F-bombs back, and then forgot about the Declare Things True type completely, because he or she had made absolutely zero impact on their lives. He or she had accomplished NOTHING by trying to declare the truth about something or by claiming "special" knowledge or insight about something. I watched this same phenomenon play itself out on three or four different forums this last week, always exactly the same, and always with the same ending. The person trying to be a "leader" or a "guru" and to get folks to listen to him or her and treat his or her words as if they were "special" or as if they came straight from God just got ignored, or laughed at. And why? Because of what Caroline Kennedy says in this article about her father, and about Barack Obama. None of these wannabee gurus ever had a ghost of a chance to change anyone's life, because none of them have a clue as to How To Inspire. *That* is a special gift, one that cannot easily be defined, but that we can all feel when we encounter it. One of the reasons we're all feeling a little con- flicted right now as Maharishi passes from the scene is that -- whatever we may think of him and his accomp- lishments or lack thereof -- he once inspired us. Most of us "got on the bus" of the TM movement way back when BECAUSE he inspired us. People have been talking here about what it would take to "get more initiations," to have more people learn TM. I agree with those who don't think that lowering the price would help a damn bit. I suspect that you couldn't get most people in the general public to learn TM these days if you paid *them* to learn it. And why? Because there is no one in the TM movement who can INSPIRE, or who IS inspired. The people who flocked to learn TM by the thousands in the 70s weren't coming because of the intro lectures and the scientific studies. They were coming because of US, the teachers. We were fuckin' INSPIRED! And people had really not SEEN all that much inspiration around them at that point, so they were attracted to it. They saw us silly short-haired ex-hippies in our cheap suits and our big smiles and they *wanted* some of whatever was making us smile like that. That's what people saw and flocked to in the halcyon days of the TM movement -- inspiration. That's what they saw and flocked to in JFK, and what they see and respond to in Barack Obama. And it's what they DON'T see in the TM movement, in Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and in *any* of the people who represent the TM movement at this point. Not one of them could inspire a Newage blissninny with no dis- crimination and who is a pushover for anything with "god" or "bliss" in it, much *less* someone who lives in the real world. Those who talk nobly about wanting to "change" the TM movement, to make it better or more responsive, to get it "back to what it was" -- they're all missing the point too as far as I can tell. *They* aren't inspired, either...they're frustrated. So the people they talk to and hope to get on "change the TMO" band- wagon with them
