[FairfieldLife] Re: Double standard for Biden and Palin

[Robert]

 (snip)
> But Biden cast one of only five votes against the pipeline that has 
> produced more than 15 billion barrels of oil, supplied nearly 20 
> percent of this nation's oil, created tens of thousands of jobs, 
> added hundreds of billions of dollars to the U.S. economy and 
reduced 
> money transfers to the nation's enemies by about the same amount. 
 (snip)

Perhaps without cheap oil, all these years, we might have prepared 
for this time, in a more evolved manner.
Jimmie Carter, was on this track.
Ronald Reagan got us off of it, and we are coming to the end of the 
Reagan psychology; it has worn thin.

Ms. Ann coulter is another one, practiced in the art of deception.
She may be an agent of domestic brain-washing, as is the Fox news 
outlet.
She also, manages to channel Luciferian ideas, many times, I feel.
She carries that very cold, nazi-like vibration, of murder and 
torture, rape and destruction.
She is really a scarey woman.
I liked how she uses the word beautious, for Sarah, and refers to 
Sarah as some kind of Biblical figure, like our Saviour Sarah, save 
us from that bad black guy, who is so close to moving into the WH, 
that we have to desperately stop him at any cost.
I used the quality of seductress, to describe Sarah Palins energy, 
because it is obvious, she is well endowed.
But what is she using her talents and endowments toward, what end?
Toward war and power-mongering?
By continued stripping of our democracy from us, and handing it over 
to the god-less corportations and god-less military contractors, and 
god-less wall st. blokes...
Does she wish to establish the forth reich? in the USA.
Do we wish to turn into a corporatized, military dictatorship.
Is that what Sarah is about?
These two put together, John McCain and Sarah Palin are quite 
dangerous, and scarey.
They will use fear, manipulation and go to any length, to lie and 
tear down, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden, two courageous souls, working 
for the benefit of us all.
As best they can, without making him into a:
Celebrity Icon, like a Ronald Reagan or a Sarah Palin.
R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Length of comments?

[cardemaister]

As we "all" know by now, YS II 15 goes like this:

pariNaama-taapa-saMskaara-duHkhair guNa-vRtti-virodhaacca
(virodhaat; ca) duHkham eva sarvaM vivekinaH.

Taimni's (yikes!) translation:

To the people who have developed discrimination (vivekinaH;
that's actually genitive *singular*) all (sarvam) is misery
(duHkham) on account of the pains (duHkhaiH) resulting 
from change (pariNaama), anxiety (taapa) and tendencies 
(saMskaara), as also (ca) on account of the conflicts (virodhaat)
between the functioning of the guNas (guNa) and the vRttis (of the mind).

Vyaasa's comment in devanaagarii (2 lines):

http://tinyurl.com/43h7j7

Bhoja's comment (12 lines):

http://tinyurl.com/469dj6

Seems like Bhoja wanted to emphasize that suutra somewhat
more than Vyaasa several hundreds of years earlier...

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
> > >
> > > Pure energy and intelligence.
> > > (Hopefully)
> > >  
> > > _say it ain't so...
> > 
> > The results of the tests at the Giant Collider in Switzerland 
> > should confirm this idea soon.
> > 
> > If we are pure energy and intelligence, then we are all 
> > interconnected to the entire cosmos at any given time.  
> > 
> > This could be one of the explanations why the vedic literature 
> > has mentioned of ancient rishis who were able to travel to other 
> > planets or worlds through their minds alone, without the benefit 
> > of space ships.
> 
> Another explanation could be that the ancient
> rishis were doing *exactly* the same thing that
> their modern counterparts do -- making up "I'm
> so special" bullshit about themselves to convince 
> the rabble that they were hot stuff, so that the 
> rabble would continue paying for their lives.
>


Yeah...kinda like you writing about witnessing your cult guru 
RamaLenzKoolAid levitating on dozens of occasions.

[FairfieldLife] Fey does Palin agin on SNL

[bob_brigante]

"Fey again returned to ''Saturday Night Live'' to play Republican vice
presidential candidate Sarah Palin as the sketch comedy show continued
to pull out all the stops in its election year season. Queen Latifah
dropped by to portray Thursday's debate moderator, PBS's Gwen Ifill, and
cast member Jason Sudeikis stepped into the role of Democratic vice
presidential candidate Joe Biden.

The ''SNL'' take on the week's political events has become a dependable
part of the news cycle this fall, offering near-immediate parodies of
the presidential candidates, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John
McCain, and their running mates. The show -- particularly the opening
sketches -- have resonated with higher ratings for the NBC program and
increased traffic on its Web site where early-to-bed viewers catch the
talked-about sketches in the days after.

Saturday night's opening sketch of the VP debate appeared likely to
garner similar buzz thanks to Fey's popular Palin impression. Winking
and giving answers not always directly related to Queen Latifah's
questions, Fey's Palin said that if she was elected, her decisions would
be guided by considering ''what would a maverick do?''

At the end of the segment, she asked with flute in hand, ''Are we not
doing the talent portion?''

Palin was runnerup in the 1984 Miss Alaska contest.

Sudeikis, with hair slicked back and a tight-fitting suit, portrayed
Biden as conflicted in his feelings for McCain, whom he called ''a
raging maniac and a dear, dear friend.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-TV-SNL.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin Hits Obama's Terrorist Connection

[bob_brigante]

> This Annie
> Oakley is sharp too, 

***

Yeah, she real sharp:

"In her closing remarks at the vice-presidential debate Thursday 
night, Ms. Palin referred earnestly, if loosely, to a quote from 
Ronald Reagan. He had warned that if Americans weren't vigilant in 
protecting their freedom, they would find themselves spending 
their "sunset years telling our children and our children's children 
what it was like in America when men were free."

What Ms. Palin didn't say was that the menace to freedom that Reagan 
was talking about was Medicare. As the historian Robert Dallek has 
pointed out, Reagan "saw Medicare as the advance wave of socialism, 
which would `invade every area of freedom in this country.' "

Does Ms. Palin agree with that Looney Tunes notion? Or was this just 
another case of the aw-shucks, darn-right, I'm-just-a-hockey-mom 
governor of Alaska mouthing something completely devoid of meaning?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04herbert.html

[FairfieldLife] Obama/terrorist connection grows stronger day by day

[shempmcgurk]

raunchydog linked to this article.

I think it's so important that it deserves its own post here.

The more the Obama/Ayers relationship is looked at, the worse it is 
for him.  No wonder they want to hide it.

Indeed, I learned something new from this article: the far, far left 
radical philosophy that Ayers to this day promotes is fully supported 
by and was even funded by Barack.

And a book that I'd love to take a gander at that Kurtz says is 
unbelievably radical was unconditionally endorsed by Barack.  Can you 
imagine the 526 ads that will be made with THAT raw material if its 
as radical as Kurtz suggests it is?  Boy, it would be like shooting 
ducks in a barrel writing the copy for that ad!

Look, if all this stuff is true and enough voters are told about it, 
people simply won't vote for Barack in big numbers.  He'll only get 
the votes of radicals, the likes of which we read on this forum every 
day.  Why, McCain will even win Michigan.

Come on, FFL people, admit it: Barack simply wasn't properly vetted.  
If all this stuff was exposed BEFORE the primaries, he would have 
come in at par with that TM nutcase Dennis Kucinich.

--

Saturday, October 04, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/4tnwlc

NYT's Ayers-Obama Whitewash   [Stanley Kurtz]


As others have noted, today's New York Times carries a story on the 
relationship between Barack Obama and unrepentant Weather Underground 
terrorist, Bill Ayers. The piece serves as a platform for the Obama 
campaign and Obama's friends and allies. Obama's spokesman and 
supporters' names are named and their versions of events are 
presented in detail, with quotes. Yet the article makes no serious 
attempt to present the views of Obama critics who have worked to 
uncover the true nature of the relationship. That makes this piece 
irresponsible journalism, and an obvious effort by the former paper 
of record to protect Obama from the coming McCain onslaught.

The title of the article when it first appeared on the web last night 
was, "Obama Had Met Ayers, but the Two Are Not Close." That was 
quickly changed to, "Obama and the `60's Bomber: A Look Into Crossed 
Paths." Perhaps the first headline made the paper's agenda a bit too 
obvious. Even so, the new title simply parrots the line of Obama 
campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt that the two first met through an 
early "education project" and since have simply "encountered each 
other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood." Or, as New 
York Times reporter Scott Shane puts it at the head of his article, 
since an initial lunchtime meeting in 1995, "their paths have crossed 
sporadically...at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama's first run 
for office, on the schools project (i.e. the Chicago Annenberg 
Challenge) and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde 
Park neighbors."

There is nothing "sporadic" about Barack Obama delivering hundreds of 
thousands of dollars over a period of many years to fund Bill Ayers' 
radical education projects, not to mention many millions more to 
benefit Ayers' radical education allies. We are talking about a 
substantial and lengthy working relationship here, one that does not 
depend on the quality of personal friendship or number of hours spent 
in the same room together (although the article greatly 
underestimates that as well).

Shane's article buys the spin on Ayers' supposed rehabilitation 
offered by the Obama campaign and Ayers' supporters in Chicago. In 
this view, whatever Ayers did in the 1960's has somehow been redeemed 
by Ayers' later turn to education work. As the Times quotes Mayor 
Daley saying, "People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole 
life." The trouble with this is that Ayers doesn't view his terrorism 
as a mistake. How can he be forgiven when he's not repentant? Nor 
does Ayers see his education work as a repudiation of his early 
radicalism. On the contrary, Ayers sees his education work as 
carrying on his radicalism in a new guise. The point of Ayers' 
education theory is that the United States is a fundamentally racist 
and oppressive nation. Students, Ayers believes, ought to be 
encouraged to resist this oppression. Obama was funding Ayers' "small 
schools" project, built around this philosophy. Ayers' radicalism 
isn't something in the past. It's something to which Obama gave moral 
and financial support as an adult. So when Shane says that Obama has 
never expressed sympathy for Ayers' radicalism, he's flat wrong. 
Obama's funded it.

Obama was perfectly aware of Ayers' radical views, since he read and 
publically endorsed, without qualification, Ayers' book on juvenile 
crime. That book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we 
ought to have a prison system at all, comparing America to South 
Africa's apartheid system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of 
the United States as a kind or just country. Shane mentions the book 
endorsement, yet says nothing about the book's actual content.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
> >
> > Pure energy and intelligence.
> > (Hopefully)
> >  
> > _say it ain't so...
> 
> The results of the tests at the Giant Collider in Switzerland 
> should confirm this idea soon.
> 
> If we are pure energy and intelligence, then we are all 
> interconnected to the entire cosmos at any given time.  
> 
> This could be one of the explanations why the vedic literature 
> has mentioned of ancient rishis who were able to travel to other 
> planets or worlds through their minds alone, without the benefit 
> of space ships.

Another explanation could be that the ancient
rishis were doing *exactly* the same thing that
their modern counterparts do -- making up "I'm
so special" bullshit about themselves to convince 
the rabble that they were hot stuff, so that the 
rabble would continue paying for their lives.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Wacky World

[Robert]

 (snip)
> Dear Everyone,
> Dr Bevan Morris comments on the current economic situation in the US
> in light of Maharishi's programmes
> by Global Good News staff writer
 (snip)
This sounds about right...
We are going through a phase transition. 
During the phase transition one cycle is ending and another beginning 
on the circle of life.
Just like starting over, through the ashes the power of spirit begins 
to shine through, and we wake up, as if from a dream.
Many people and things are passing from our lives.
We hold onto what is familiar, as it is disappering before our eyes.
A deeper insight is gained, one is stopped in his tracks.
Sometimes there is great fear and trepidation, and knots in the gut.
It can be gut wrenching, at times.
But there is no way out, only through.
The time is to connect with why you are here, and get on with it.
Why are you here; for what purpose did you come here to the earth 
experience?
R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Palin Hits Obama's Terrorist Connection

[raunchydog]

YouTube http://tinyurl.com/4emahm "Despite the NYT's "whitewash,"
Sarah Palin Hits Obama on Bill Ayers Relationship" By SusanUnPC

Remember this? Do you remember Barack's snide line about Hillary Clinton?

"Who does she think she is? Annie Oakley?"

Well, Barack. Here's another tough woman comin' at you. This Annie
Oakley is sharp too, and she's taken aim at your long, close
relationship with terrorist William Ayers that you've tried to conceal
because, among many terrorist acts, he helped bomb the Pentagon.
Sarah's job has become more difficult since the New York Times abetted
your concealment with what Stanley Kurtz calls its "irresponsible
journalism" in today's "whitewash" story. (Kurtz also refers to the
exceptional research by Steve Diamond whose investigative stories are
published here regularly.)

Of course, at No Quarter, our readers already KNOW a great deal about
Barack Obama's extensive ties to Bill Ayers. Read more
http://tinyurl.com/4g468j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Wacky World

[shempmcgurk]

This post made me think of the beginning of the film "The Last King 
of Scotland" about a young Scottish doctor who decides in the '70s to 
go off to Uganda under Idi Amin to do medical work.

The film begins with the doctor and how he chose Uganda as his 
destination: he closes his eyes, spins a globe, and decides that he 
will go wherever his finger randomly lands...which ended up being 
Uganda (actually, it landed on Canada first but he did a take-
over 'cause that obviously wasn't a very exciting destination).

This parallels what happened to the Movement at the time Maharishi 
died. Maharishi while alive continually invented new projects, great 
new undertakings...and each time he did, he would abandon his most 
recent great, new project.

These projects were always in flux, just like a spinning globe.

Maharishi's death was like the doctor closing his eyes and putting 
down his finger in order to stop the globe and indicate a particular 
location: whatever was Maharishi's passing fad-of-the-moment at the 
time of his death, why that is what the Movement Peons like Bevan are 
now stuck with doing for the rest of their lives.

If building the world's largest outhouse was what was tickling 
Maharishi's fancy the week of his death, well, that would have ended 
up being their lifes' work.

So I guess Bevan should be thanking his lucky stars that Maharishi's 
attention was on something as interesting and as luxurious as the 
Wall Street TM Center.  Otherwise, he may have been stuck with 
Siberia or Central Africa.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sirenia108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I was wondering when the TMO's internal logic and bizarre MMY-
centric
> rationalizations would cough up a phlegmy furball like this:
> 
> 
> Dear Everyone,
> Dr Bevan Morris comments on the current economic situation in the US
> in light of Maharishi's programmes
> by Global Good News staff writer
>  
> Global Good News  
> www.globalgoodnews.com
> 25 September 2008
>  
> Speaking on 24 September Maharishi Global Family Chat, Dr Bevan
> Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, 
described
> his recent visit to Maharishi Vedic City, in Iowa, USA, and 
commented
> on the current economic and political situations in the United 
States.
>  
> Dr Morris had visited Maharishi University of Management and 
Maharishi
> Vedic City, where over 900 Vedic Pandits are currently part of the
> Invincible America Assembly and also performing daily Yagyas for the
> creation of Invincible America and world peace. Dr Morris said it 
is a
> very difficult place to leave 'due to the saturated bliss, the 
feeling
> of everything flowing in Totality there'.
>  
> Dr Morris also spoke about the remarkable transformation that has
> taken place at 70 Broad Street in New York City, the new home of the
> Global Financial Capital of New York, which has been completely
> reconstructed internally and redesigned to be a place where the top
> leaders in any field will be welcomed and feel completely 
comfortable.
>  
> So many people have given so much detailed attention and put in so
> much hard work to bring the building to completion; Dr Morris 
praised
> and appreciated all those individuals who have been involved.
>  
> Dr Morris then gave his perspective on the current financial 
situation
> in the United States and how the Invincible America Assembly is
> transforming the fortune and destiny of the United States; together
> with the change in the financial markets and the government, and a
> group of the most influential and wealthiest executives, who have
> expressed interest in learning Transcendental Meditation—all of this
> coming together at the same time Dr Morris felt was very 
significant.
>  
> Dr Morris reminded everyone that the great investment banks would 
not
> previously invest in Maharishi Global Development projects because
> they said the projects were too risky, but now they are collapsing 
due
> to unwarranted risks that were taken. Dr Morris said that the 
current
> financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being
> purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective 
consciousness.
> That which he felt was completely wrong, the huge contrast between 
the
> great wealth and extreme poverty in the world—the upside down nature
> of the economy and finances—is now being set right, although we 
cannot
> foresee in what way this will unfold.
>  
> Dr Morris felt it must be that all these areas have to be purified 
if
> we are to have a better world, and it was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's
> intention that these transformations would be gradual, not happening
> so quickly that it would be destructive. Maharishi had said 
previously
> that it was not the money from the banks that will relieve the 
poverty
> in the world. It is the infinite potential of consciousness that has
> to be enlivened and that will relieve the poverty on every level.
>  
> Dr Morris spoke about Maharishi's Poverty Remo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Wacky World

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "sirenia108"   
> Dr Morris said that the current
> > financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being
> > purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective 
consciousness.
> 
> Even though you knew it was coming, you just got to marvel every time 
> this card is played.  The shape shifter rising world consciousness 
> card.  You can play it high or low.  It covers you coming or going.  
> God love em. (to use a Joe Biden phrase)
>

**

>From Bevan's message:

"Maharishi had said previously
that it was not the money from the banks that will relieve the poverty
in the world. It is the infinite potential of consciousness that has
to be enlivened and that will relieve the poverty on every level."

Exactly, so all the complaining about banks not financing the Global 
Country is irrelevant.

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Campaign

[raunchydog]

Attention Election Committee for Peter: I'm convienced we should enlist
the aid of ACORN to help get Peter elected President. If it can work for
Obama it can work for Peter. All we have to do is tag the big toe of a
few dead folks with their ballot attached and gurney them to the
courthouse for early voting. Best of all you won't need to make any
chicken sandwiches. Here's a how to do it video:
http://tinyurl.com/3qlpb3    Also, be sure to
read this article to learn the finer points of elections fraud from
Obama's ACORN friends.

The Dead "Unmoved" By Palin's Debate, Continue To Vote For
Obama
Posted on October 4, 2008
by Uppity Woman
Chicagoans Against Obama  
did me one better with my post on ACORN Registering Dead People
   in Indiana. As always, a picture is
worth….

  [341] 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Americans,
> Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie
with my lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed
an election committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and
affection and I do humbly accept this nomination to be the next
president of the United States of America. God bless America and
goodnight! And don't forget your chicken sandwich!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Wacky World

[lurkernomore20002000]

"sirenia108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Dr Morris said that the current
> financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being
> purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective consciousness.

Even though you knew it was coming, you just got to marvel every time 
this card is played.  The shape shifter rising world consciousness 
card.  You can play it high or low.  It covers you coming or going.  
God love em. (to use a Joe Biden phrase)

[FairfieldLife] 'The Original Sixties Radical= LBJ

[Robert]

LBJ, was the original sixties radical,
Because he sent tens of thousands,
Of our young boys, to die and be maimed in Viet Nam.
Hundreds of innocent civilians died, in the nastiest of ways.
Napalm is like a Vaseline substance, that sticks to your skin,
At burns at a highly destructive temperature; burns are very painful, indeed.
He finally quit at the end, after he continued a war...
Which his own Secretary of State, Robert McNamara said was unwindable.
Unwindable war, short of going nuclear, which LBJ even considered.
He was sure where the buck stops, at the top, of the food chain...
That had led to all of the sixties radicalism,
And even the dark days of the abandonment of Southern Dems.
That continues to this day; It's called the Red State, The Blue Collars.
Anyway, if you ask me the buck stops with the president,
It is the president who sets the tone,
That is how the framers, Framed it to Be.
So, the president sets the tone, for the country.
And that past eight years, reminds me of the sixties:
And that Fearsome? Macho Texan Attitude, that we all have to Contend with...
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] Bevan's Wacky World

[sirenia108]

I was wondering when the TMO's internal logic and bizarre MMY-centric
rationalizations would cough up a phlegmy furball like this:


Dear Everyone,
Dr Bevan Morris comments on the current economic situation in the US
in light of Maharishi's programmes
by Global Good News staff writer
 
Global Good News  
www.globalgoodnews.com
25 September 2008
 
Speaking on 24 September Maharishi Global Family Chat, Dr Bevan
Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, described
his recent visit to Maharishi Vedic City, in Iowa, USA, and commented
on the current economic and political situations in the United States.
 
Dr Morris had visited Maharishi University of Management and Maharishi
Vedic City, where over 900 Vedic Pandits are currently part of the
Invincible America Assembly and also performing daily Yagyas for the
creation of Invincible America and world peace. Dr Morris said it is a
very difficult place to leave 'due to the saturated bliss, the feeling
of everything flowing in Totality there'.
 
Dr Morris also spoke about the remarkable transformation that has
taken place at 70 Broad Street in New York City, the new home of the
Global Financial Capital of New York, which has been completely
reconstructed internally and redesigned to be a place where the top
leaders in any field will be welcomed and feel completely comfortable.
 
So many people have given so much detailed attention and put in so
much hard work to bring the building to completion; Dr Morris praised
and appreciated all those individuals who have been involved.
 
Dr Morris then gave his perspective on the current financial situation
in the United States and how the Invincible America Assembly is
transforming the fortune and destiny of the United States; together
with the change in the financial markets and the government, and a
group of the most influential and wealthiest executives, who have
expressed interest in learning Transcendental Meditation—all of this
coming together at the same time Dr Morris felt was very significant.
 
Dr Morris reminded everyone that the great investment banks would not
previously invest in Maharishi Global Development projects because
they said the projects were too risky, but now they are collapsing due
to unwarranted risks that were taken. Dr Morris said that the current
financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being
purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective consciousness.
That which he felt was completely wrong, the huge contrast between the
great wealth and extreme poverty in the world—the upside down nature
of the economy and finances—is now being set right, although we cannot
foresee in what way this will unfold.
 
Dr Morris felt it must be that all these areas have to be purified if
we are to have a better world, and it was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's
intention that these transformations would be gradual, not happening
so quickly that it would be destructive. Maharishi had said previously
that it was not the money from the banks that will relieve the poverty
in the world. It is the infinite potential of consciousness that has
to be enlivened and that will relieve the poverty on every level.
 
Dr Morris spoke about Maharishi's Poverty Removal Programme, the great
economic development programme with the Global Development Currency,
the Raam; through this programme, any government will be able to
rebuild and develop the schools, the housing, the roads, the cities,
and also clinics for Maharishi Ayur-Veda—all built according to Vedic
principles of architecture, Maharishi Sthapatya Veda.
 
Agriculture can also be transformed and developed through Maharishi
Vedic Organic Agriculture, in which the unused lands of the poorer
countries of the world are used to provide income and wealth through
sales of organic produce to other countries.
 
In every area of life transformation is needed—in health, agriculture,
education, etc—and now Maharishi's programmes are bringing all these
areas of life to be founded on the reality of life, the unbounded
level of consciousness, the Unified Field of Natural Law, 'completely
full of bliss and intelligence—and that is the true wealth of
everybody', Dr Morris said.
 
© Copyright 2008 Global Good News®
 

[FairfieldLife] McCain's Reputation Revealed...

[sparaig]

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print


'nuff said.

L.

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign

[gullible fool]

 
Can you count on the Cuban vote?
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:14 PM

Dear Americans,
Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my
lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election
committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do humbly
accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of America.
God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken sandwich!


  



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[FairfieldLife] My Campaign

[Peter]

Dear Americans,
Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my 
lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election 
committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do 
humbly accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of 
America. God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken 
sandwich!


  

[FairfieldLife] Peter gets the support of the military

[shempmcgurk]

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> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution
to
> > > > > > society's
> > > > > > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
> > Peter
> > > > and
> > > > > > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we
should
> > ban
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we
> ban
> > > all
> > > > of
> > > > > > > us for our connections to Peter?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter
> for
> > > > > > president.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here
> on
> > > > > FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
> > campaign
> > > > > for 2012.
> > > > >
> > > > > He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers
> totally
> > > > down.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic
crisis
> --
> > > > > still ongoing since 2008?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: More fucking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q More fucking what?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: More fucking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
> > Irag
> > > > > for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: I never withdraw prematurely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Seniors should fuck more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: And the education crisis:
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Students should fuck more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
> > > Fucking,
> > > > > Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman
> over
> > 16
> > > > > will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
> > pump
> > > up
> > > > > the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an
> pleasure.
> > > My
> > > > > platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of
that
> > > > > platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are
nationalizing
> > all
> > > > > escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The
> fucking
> > > > > money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of
> these
> > > > > nationalized fucking businesses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different
things.
> > > > >
> > > > > Q After you win the election what will you do?
> > > > >
> > > > > A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Peter's supporter's rally for him

[shempmcgurk]

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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
> > > > > society's
> > > > > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
> Peter
> > > and
> > > > > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should
> ban
> > > > > Peter
> > > > > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we
ban
> > all
> > > of
> > > > > > us for our connections to Peter?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter
for
> > > > > president.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here
on
> > > > FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
> campaign
> > > > for 2012.
> > > >
> > > > He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers
totally
> > > down.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis
--
> > > > still ongoing since 2008?
> > > >
> > > > A: More fucking.
> > > >
> > > > Q More fucking what?
> > > >
> > > > A: More fucking.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
> Irag
> > > > for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
> > > >
> > > > A: I never withdraw prematurely.
> > > >
> > > > Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
> > > >
> > > > A: Seniors should fuck more.
> > > >
> > > > Q: And the education crisis:
> > > >
> > > > A: Students should fuck more.
> > > >
> > > > Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
> > > >
> > > > A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
> > Fucking,
> > > > Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman
over
> 16
> > > > will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
> pump
> > up
> > > > the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an
pleasure.
> > My
> > > > platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
> > > > platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
> > > >
> > > > A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing
> all
> > > > escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The
fucking
> > > > money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of
these
> > > > nationalized fucking businesses.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
> > > >
> > > > A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
> > > >
> > > > A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
> > > >
> > > > Q After you win the election what will you do?
> > > >
> > > > A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign mail-out thanking supporters for contributions

[shempmcgurk]

   







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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
> > > > society's
> > > > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
Peter
> > and
> > > > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should
ban
> > > > Peter
> > > > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban
> all
> > of
> > > > > us for our connections to Peter?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
> > > > president.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
> > > FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
campaign
> > > for 2012.
> > >
> > > He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
> > down.
> > >
> > > Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
> > > still ongoing since 2008?
> > >
> > > A: More fucking.
> > >
> > > Q More fucking what?
> > >
> > > A: More fucking.
> > >
> > > Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
Irag
> > > for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
> > >
> > > A: I never withdraw prematurely.
> > >
> > > Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
> > >
> > > A: Seniors should fuck more.
> > >
> > > Q: And the education crisis:
> > >
> > > A: Students should fuck more.
> > >
> > > Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
> > >
> > > A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
> Fucking,
> > > Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over
16
> > > will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
pump
> up
> > > the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure.
> My
> > > platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
> > > platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
> > >
> > > Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
> > >
> > > A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing
all
> > > escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
> > > money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
> > > nationalized fucking businesses.
> > >
> > > Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
> > >
> > > A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
> > >
> > > Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
> > >
> > > A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
> > >
> > > Q After you win the election what will you do?
> > >
> > > A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign poster

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
> > > society's
> > > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter
> and
> > > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban
> > > Peter
> > > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban
all
> of
> > > > us for our connections to Peter?)
> > >
> > >
> > > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
> > > president.
> >
> >
> > I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
> > FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
> > for 2012.
> >
> > He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
> down.
> >
> > Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
> > still ongoing since 2008?
> >
> > A: More fucking.
> >
> > Q More fucking what?
> >
> > A: More fucking.
> >
> > Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
> > for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
> >
> > A: I never withdraw prematurely.
> >
> > Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
> >
> > A: Seniors should fuck more.
> >
> > Q: And the education crisis:
> >
> > A: Students should fuck more.
> >
> > Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
> >
> > A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
Fucking,
> > Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
> > will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump
up
> > the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure.
My
> > platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
> > platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
> >
> > Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
> >
> > A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
> > escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
> > money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
> > nationalized fucking businesses.
> >
> > Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
> >
> > A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
> >
> > Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
> >
> > A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
> >
> > Q After you win the election what will you do?
> >
> > A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Peter's tour bus and lawn sign

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning 
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
> > society's
> > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter
and
> > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban
> > Peter
> > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all
of
> > > us for our connections to Peter?)
> >
> >
> > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
> > president.
>
>
> I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
> FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
> for 2012.
>
> He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
down.
>
> Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
> still ongoing since 2008?
>
> A: More fucking.
>
> Q More fucking what?
>
> A: More fucking.
>
> Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
> for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
>
> A: I never withdraw prematurely.
>
> Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
>
> A: Seniors should fuck more.
>
> Q: And the education crisis:
>
> A: Students should fuck more.
>
> Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
>
> A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking,
> Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
> will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up
> the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My
> platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
> platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
>
> Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
>
> A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
> escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
> money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
> nationalized fucking businesses.
>
> Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
>
> A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
>
> Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
>
> A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
>
> Q After you win the election what will you do?
>
> A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President

[authfriend]

Fucking hilarious, new.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > 
> > > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
> > society's
> > > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with 
Peter and
> > > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should 
ban 
> > Peter
> > > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban 
all of
> > > us for our connections to Peter?) 
> > 
> > 
> > ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
> > president.
> 
> 
> I think that is a winning idea.  We have a grass routs org here on
> FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
> for 2012. 
> 
> He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally 
down.
> 
> Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
> still ongoing since 2008? 
> 
> A: More fucking.
> 
> Q More fucking what?
> 
> A: More fucking.
> 
> Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
> for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
> 
> A: I never withdraw prematurely.
> 
> Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: 
> 
> A: Seniors should fuck more.
> 
> Q: And the education crisis:
> 
> A: Students should fuck more.
> 
> Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
> 
> A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global 
Fucking,
> Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
> will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump 
up
> the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. 
My
> platform is the Politics of Pleasure.  And in Celebration of that
> platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
> 
> Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
> 
> A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
> escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
> money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
> nationalized fucking businesses.
> 
> Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
> 
> A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
> 
> Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
> 
> A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
> 
> Q After you win the election what will you do?
> 
> A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
>

[FairfieldLife] Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> 
> > 
> > (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
> society's
> > problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
> > were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban 
> Peter
> > from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
> > us for our connections to Peter?) 
> 
> 
> ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
> president.


I think that is a winning idea.  We have a grass routs org here on
FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
for 2012. 

He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down.

Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
still ongoing since 2008? 

A: More fucking.

Q More fucking what?

A: More fucking.

Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?

A: I never withdraw prematurely.

Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: 

A: Seniors should fuck more.

Q: And the education crisis:

A: Students should fuck more.

Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?

A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking,
Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up
the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My
platform is the Politics of Pleasure.  And in Celebration of that
platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.

Q: How can the fucking money be spent?

A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
nationalized fucking businesses.

Q: Is it a big fucking budget?

A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.

Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?

A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.

Q After you win the election what will you do?

A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Pure energy and intelligence.
> (Hopefully)
>  
> _say it ain't so...
>

The results of the tests at the Giant Collider in Switzerland should 
confirm this idea soon.

If we are pure energy and intelligence, then we are all interconnected 
to the entire cosmos at any given time.  

This could be one of the explanations why the vedic literature has 
mentioned of ancient rishis who were able to travel to other planets or 
worlds through their minds alone, without the benefit of space ships.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Total federal (public) debt
> > > > 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> > > > 
> > > > And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too 
> much 
> > > to bear for any country. 
> > 
> > Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
> > country with a billion people?
> 
> Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for 
> analyses. 

Holy shit. you are out palining Paling. My hats off to you.

yea I mean like all ratios in economics are games. meant to decieve
and not clarify, You  are SO right on. How did you figure out this
conspiracy against hard workin americans perpetrated by economists?
You are one smart brainiac!

> For my taste, 

> debt is a debt no matter how you take it.  

> The ideal situation is to have zero debt.

Welcome to the caveman economy. 

Can't wait to har your grand theories on savings and investments.



>  
> > 
> > > There should be a goal to at least reduce 
> > > the debt by half in about 25 years.  
> > 
> > Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
> > 
> > > Once that's reached, there 
> > > should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
> > > half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
> > 
> > So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
> > national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
> > cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, 
> everything
> > else being equal than one with some debt?
> 
> Ideally, yes.  But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay 
> for big ticket items--those that are essential.
> 
> 
> >  
> > > Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely 
> collapse.
> > > 
> > You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
> > What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> > 1) Total federal (public) debt
> > 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> 
> I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the 
> debt burden.  You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or 
> so.  Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 
> percent.  The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has 
> now.  The ideal is zero debt.  
> 
> IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past 
> economic history.
> 
> 
> >  
> > Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
> > Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
> > debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be 
> instructive
> > to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
> > "appropriate" level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
> > economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no 
> federal
> > debt.
> > 
> > Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
> > building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
> > should be done in all upfront cash?
> 
> Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt.  If you don't have 
> the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money.  But you should 
> make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments.  It's common 
> sense.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
> > might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
> > better than reducing debt, during a recession?
> 
> At the national level, the principles become more complicated.  The 
> government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy.  This was 
> done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the 
> Great Depression Era.  As such, it was necessary to incur debt to 
> stimulate the economy.
> 
> Currently, the situation is similar.  However, the indebtedness is 
> made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse.  So, 
> in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by 
> Congress.
> 
> Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national 
> debt sometime in the near future.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To All:
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates 
> today 
> > > and 
> > > > > the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
> > > national 
> > > > > debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
> > > forget 
> > > > > to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing 
> canc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond the observable universe...

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> "Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the 
sky
> beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and
> NASA team members have discovered.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d 
>

Richard Hugo pointed this out earlier this week.  Nonetheless, it is 
interesting to note what the Rig Veda has sung about the universe, as 
interpreted by an Indian author a few years ago.  Supposedly, the 
universe is expanding and is rotating at a certain axis.  So, as we see 
galaxies spin, so does the entire universe.

This principle could account for the anomalies that the astronomers 
have found. 

[FairfieldLife] Palin Gush - Rich Lowry So lonely. So very lonely

[do.rflex]

Dear Penthouse . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phqYQS5NO0s

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> > > 
> > > 1) Total federal (public) debt
> > > 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> > > 
> > > And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> > The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too 
much 
> > to bear for any country. 
> 
> Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
> country with a billion people?

Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for 
analyses.  For my taste, a debt is a debt no matter how you take it.  
The ideal situation is to have zero debt.

 
> 
> > There should be a goal to at least reduce 
> > the debt by half in about 25 years.  
> 
> Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
> 
> > Once that's reached, there 
> > should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
> > half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
> 
> So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
> national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
> cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, 
everything
> else being equal than one with some debt?

Ideally, yes.  But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay 
for big ticket items--those that are essential.


>  
> > Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely 
collapse.
> > 
> You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
> What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> 1) Total federal (public) debt
> 2) Foreign holding of federal debt

I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the 
debt burden.  You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or 
so.  Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 
percent.  The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has 
now.  The ideal is zero debt.  

IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past 
economic history.


>  
> Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
> Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
> debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be 
instructive
> to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
> "appropriate" level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
> economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no 
federal
> debt.
> 
> Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
> building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
> should be done in all upfront cash?

Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt.  If you don't have 
the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money.  But you should 
make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments.  It's common 
sense.


> 
> Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
> might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
> better than reducing debt, during a recession?

At the national level, the principles become more complicated.  The 
government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy.  This was 
done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the 
Great Depression Era.  As such, it was necessary to incur debt to 
stimulate the economy.

Currently, the situation is similar.  However, the indebtedness is 
made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse.  So, 
in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by 
Congress.

Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national 
debt sometime in the near future.







> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To All:
> > > > 
> > > > It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates 
today 
> > and 
> > > > the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
> > national 
> > > > debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
> > forget 
> > > > to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing 
cancer 
> > that 
> > > > cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
> > > > 
> > > > President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when 
his 
> > > > administration actually realized a budget surplus which 
helped 
> > reduce 
> > > > the national debt--but not by much.
> > > > 
> > > > In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax 
cuts 
> > > > which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase 
to 
> > the 
> > > > national debt.
> > > > 
> > > > Someone has to deliver the message to the American people 
that 
> > the 
> > > > party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
> > > > eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
> > > > 
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> .
> > 
> > There were more.
> > 
> > 
> 
> *
> 
> "...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less 
> demanding than a face-to-face interview — the kind Ms. Palin had 
with 
> Katie Couric of CBS.
> 
> Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a 
> prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question.





Gosh, the KING of prepared only-speak-from-the-teleprompter speakers 
is Barack Obama and he has NEVER been exposed to the kind of Gotcha! 
journalism that Palin was exposed to by both Couric and Gibson.

Obama was interviewed by O'Reilly who did NOT play Gotcha! journalism 
with him...but in hindsight he should have.

Who else beside O'Reilly did Barack get interviewed with that can be 
said to be hostile to him?

Can you name them?  If so, did they give him the kind of "What is the 
speed velocity of a hummingbird's wings" questions that Palin got?

Anytime Obama is confronted with off-the-cuff questions he hems and 
haws and stumbles and mumbles TEN TIMES worse than anything Palin has 
done.

But everyone in the media treats him with kid gloves.

What a big, fat, fucking baby.  Wah-wah-wah.





> Imagine this 
> exchange — based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen 
> Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden — if it took place in 
> casual conversation over coffee:
> 
> LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at 
> its worst? 
> 
> MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to 
figure 
> out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, 
is 
> go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there 
> on the sideline and ask them, "How are you feeling about the 
economy?"
> 
> 
> Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a 
> conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, 
> monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for 
relevance 
> to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. 
> Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and 
> you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or 
make 
> faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The 
concerns 
> raised by the Couric interviews — that Ms. Palin memorizes talking 
> points rather than grasping issues — should not be allayed by her 
> performance in the forgiving format of a debate. 
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "shempmcgurk" 

> wrote:
> >
> > According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of
> > getting their facts wrong in the debate.>>
> 
> Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more 
like
> comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been
> married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about 
his
> own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama.
> 
> They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy
> 
> OffWorld




Then you need to compare Obama's record/stance on issues BEFORE he 
secured the nomination with his record/stance AFTER he secured the 
nomination.

Obama's nose will be, oh, about 6 times longer than McCain's.

And, please note, I am NO fan of McCain's and I feel very 
uncomfortable painting him in a good light as a result of these 
comparisons with Barky.

They are both bums.

I think we can agree, off-kilter, that the bailout is a horrible 
thing.  Yet both McCain and Obama are for it.  The difference is that 
Obama was much more eager for this government intervention than 
McCain was.

As such, on this issue, Obama was MUCH MORE in line with Bush than 
McCain was.

So who's more representative of Bush's third term?





> 
> 
> >
> > Here's their full fact check on the debate:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4fpela 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , new.morning 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > But whats Truth got to do with it?
> > >
> > > Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe.
> > Speaking
> > > right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it 
blatently
> > > lying to the American people and world.
> > >
> > > With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy 
pulling in
> > > over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-
prized.
> > >
> > > And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so
> > clear
> > > he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
> > >
> > > It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it 
but
> > > don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She 
can
> > be
> > > (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what
> > handlers
> > > have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that 
make it
> > > OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish 
a
> > > cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
> > >
> > > (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as 
I
> > held
> > > their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very 
endearing
> > and
> > > cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "shempmcgurk" 

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , off_world_beings
> > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I 
mentioned
> > the
> > > > gaffe
> > > > > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media
> > > > treatment
> > > > > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> > > > >
> > > > > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New
> > York in
> > > > > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> > > > > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in 
the
> > city
> > > > > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would 
go on
> > > > radio
> > > > > and TV to make speeches about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and 
Shemp
> > is
> > > > > swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like Biden was right.
> > > > >
> > > > > OffWorld
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what
> > could
> > > > pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the
> > most
> > > > limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and 
the
> > > > whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the
> > broadcasts
> > > > were local, not state-wide.
> > > >
> > > > There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any 
TV
> > > > broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 
1929.
> > > >
> > > > However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts 
has
> > been
> > > > making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
> 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[bob_brigante]

.
> 
> There were more.
> 
> 

*

"...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less 
demanding than a face-to-face interview — the kind Ms. Palin had with 
Katie Couric of CBS.

Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a 
prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question. Imagine this 
exchange — based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen 
Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden — if it took place in 
casual conversation over coffee:

LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at 
its worst? 

MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to figure 
out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, is 
go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there 
on the sideline and ask them, "How are you feeling about the economy?"


Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a 
conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, 
monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for relevance 
to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. 
Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and 
you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or make 
faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The concerns 
raised by the Couric interviews — that Ms. Palin memorizes talking 
points rather than grasping issues — should not be allayed by her 
performance in the forgiving format of a debate. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other
> astute posters here. 
> 
> Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does
> this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being
> president because of the Ayers connections? 



...only the ones running for president.



> 
> You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief
> scientists are "nuts" -- or at least say very nutty things.  And the
> goofiest thing -- you "flew" everyday at this so called university.
> Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the 
truth
> about you!





I would slink into the nearest hole if ever I was presented to my 
clients as such.

But, again, I'm not running for president (would YOU vote for someone 
that went to MIU?  I wouldn't!)

As Groucho said: I wouldn't belong to a club that would have me as a 
member.





> 
> I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there.
> Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals.



Did they commit acts of terrorism?

I don't think Marcuse did.

Davis is another story, although if memory serves me correctly, she 
was NOT convicted for the George Jackson thing, for which she was a 
fugitive (remember the "Free Angela" buttons?).






> Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin
> all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open
> revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and 
natioanl
> protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there 
and
> he advocated strong resistance against the government.



MLK never advocated terrorism and you do insult his name by putting 
him in the same paragraph as the likes of Hayden and Hoffman.

I leave out Rubin and Cleaver because they changed their thinking in 
later years.

Leary?  He was just a drug addled junkie.




> Heck, Ronald
> Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was
> there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled
> with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US
> economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled 
around
> with mobsters,



...yes, and quite rightly have been admonished for it many times 
since it has come to light.





> and "started" the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam
> -- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster.





Yes, and history has dealt with them for that.

Gosh, new.morning, you're just giving reasons why people shouldn't 
vote for Obama.

Whose side are you on?





> Should I
> and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because
> of the "Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy"
> connection?




...if you supported terrorism and terrorists then, yes, you should be.

But I don't think any of the above were.

Hayden and Hoffman neither blew up or advocated blowing things up as 
far as I know and they're the worst of the bunch.




> 
> (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
society's
> problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
> were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban 
Peter
> from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
> us for our connections to Peter?) 



...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
president.




> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > At least someone in this campaign has some balls.
> > 
> > This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
> > president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.
> > 
> > Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the 
primaries 
> > about this?
> > 
> > What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware 
of 
> > the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
> > And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
> > because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a 
whole 
> > lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.
> > 
> > And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with 
William 
> > Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been 
doing 
> > for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.
> > 
> > Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is 
supposed 
> > to be different; he's supposed to be "change we can believe 
it"...a 
> > leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the 
crowd 
> > is doing it.
> > 
> > If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill 
politicians, 
> > why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who 
would 
> > have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many 
of 
> > my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
> > admitted terrorist, I won't h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was
originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke. 
That's actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen
Konigsberg (aka Woody Allen) on the right.  The other two in the
picture were secretaries in the Brill Building where Allen's agent at
the time had his office.  As I'm sure Bill Maher would tell you, he's
not the originator of this kind of humor!
==


~Woody Allen's early humor enjoyed after all this time. I had the
biggest laughs I can remember reading the comments and not recognizing
the spoof.



 
> --- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> From: do.rflex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM
> 
> http://www.boingboi ng.net/200810011 126.jpg 
> 
> Read stunned viewer comments:
> http://lpcoverlover .com/2008/ 09/28/god- have-mercy/
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate

[gullible fool]

 
She has more Palin vidoes on her main page:
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/LisaNova


"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:51 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Thats a good one.


IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina
Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the
woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a
satiric way). 



  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
>  
> "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no
`you,' only love." 
>  
> - Amma 
>





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[FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Thats a good one.


IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina
Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the
woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a
satiric way). 



  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
>  
> "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no
`you,' only love." 
>  
> - Amma 
>

[FairfieldLife] LisaNova does the debate

[gullible fool]

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of 
> getting their facts wrong in the debate.
> 
> Here's their full fact check on the debate:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4fpela

A lot of the fact "misstatements" are due to ineadequate time to
explain context and the fuller issues. Short cut statments need to be
made in 90 seconds. I didn't hear anything from Biden that was
applaulling or which could not have been clarified with more time. I
did from palin. She made BOLD FACED lies. Winking and smiling and darn
tootin it up as she did so. He is less scrupulous than a used car
salesman in a navy town when the ship is in. 

1) She repeated said Obama would raise taxes on regular people, the
middle class. Thats a bold, bald-faced lie if you define middle class
as making under 250k a year. (I know MCain defines it as making less
than 5 mil -- but that speaks for itself. Obama proposes a tax cut for
those making under $125 k. She was lying through her teeth -- but
maybe its ok -- she winked. (which is NOT blinking mind you)

2) She said McCain would lower taxes for everyone in the audience. He
is not lowering their marginal tax rate for personal income -- which
her words imply. He does propose lowering business taxes and capital
gains / dividends. That is NOT what her statement said or implied.

(Actually, I am for a subset of that -- to eliminate double taxation.
Tax income once -- either a business tax or dividend tax; and income
or capital gains made from saved income -- but not both.) 

3) Energy policy -- some bold faced lies about the obama energy plan
-- and the merits of the mcCain plan.

4) "Having a time table for Iraq is the white flag of surrender" -- I
guess Bush and the president of Iraq are raising the white flag of
surrender then.

There were more.


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> > But whats Truth got to do with it?
> > 
> > Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. 
> Speaking
> > right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
> > lying to the American people and world.  
> > 
> > With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
> > over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 
> > 
> > And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so 
> clear
> > he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
> > 
> > It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
> > don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can 
> be
> > (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what 
> handlers
> > have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
> > OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
> > cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
> > 
> > (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I 
> held
> > their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing 
> and
> > cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned 
> the 
> > > gaffe
> > > > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
> > > treatment
> > > > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> > > > 
> > > > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New 
> York in
> > > > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> > > > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the 
> city
> > > > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
> > > radio
> > > > and TV to make speeches about it.
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp 
> is
> > > > swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> > > > 
> > > > Looks like Biden was right.
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what 
> could 
> > > pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the 
> most 
> > > limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
> > > whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the 
> broadcasts 
> > > were local, not state-wide.
> > > 
> > > There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
> > > broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
> > > 
> > > However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has 
> been 
> > > making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of
> getting their facts wrong in the debate.>>

Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more like
comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been
married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about his
own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama.

They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy

OffWorld


>
> Here's their full fact check on the debate:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4fpela 
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , new.morning 
> wrote:
> >
> > But whats Truth got to do with it?
> >
> > Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe.
> Speaking
> > right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
> > lying to the American people and world.
> >
> > With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
> > over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized.
> >
> > And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so
> clear
> > he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
> >
> > It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
> > don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can
> be
> > (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what
> handlers
> > have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
> > OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
> > cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
> >
> > (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I
> held
> > their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing
> and
> > cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "shempmcgurk" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , off_world_beings
> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned
> the
> > > gaffe
> > > > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media
> > > treatment
> > > > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> > > >
> > > > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New
> York in
> > > > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> > > > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the
> city
> > > > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on
> > > radio
> > > > and TV to make speeches about it.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp
> is
> > > > swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like Biden was right.
> > > >
> > > > OffWorld
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what
> could
> > > pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the
> most
> > > limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the
> > > whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the
> broadcasts
> > > were local, not state-wide.
> > >
> > > There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV
> > > broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
> > >
> > > However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has
> been
> > > making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw

> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Amma's US tour dates

[gullible fool]

 
http://www.amritapuri.org/yatra/
 
Below are the tentative dates of USA yatra, they may be subjected to change

San Ramon, CA
Nov 23 to 25: Public Programs
Nov 26 to 28: San Ramon Retreat

Michigan
Nov 30 eve and Dec 1:  Public Programs
Dec 2 - 4 : Michigan Retreat


"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

[Jonathan Chadwick]

Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was 
originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke.  That's 
actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen Konigsberg (aka 
Woody Allen) on the right.  The other two in the picture were secretaries in 
the Brill Building where Allen's agent at the time had his office.  As I'm sure 
Bill Maher would tell you, he's not the originator of this kind of humor!

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: do.rflex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM








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[FairfieldLife] I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!

[new . morning]

I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other
astute posters here. 

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does
this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being
president because of the Ayers connections? 

You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief
scientists are "nuts" -- or at least say very nutty things.  And the
goofiest thing -- you "flew" everyday at this so called university.
Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the truth
about you!

I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there.
Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals.
Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin
all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open
revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and natioanl
protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there and
he advocated strong resistance against the government. Heck, Ronald
Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was
there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled
with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US
economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled around
with mobsters, and "started" the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam
-- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster. Should I
and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because
of the "Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy"
connection?

(And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's
problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter
from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
us for our connections to Peter?) 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> At least someone in this campaign has some balls.
> 
> This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
> president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.
> 
> Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries 
> about this?
> 
> What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of 
> the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
> And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
> because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole 
> lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.
> 
> And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William 
> Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing 
> for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.
> 
> Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is supposed 
> to be different; he's supposed to be "change we can believe it"...a 
> leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd 
> is doing it.
> 
> If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, 
> why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would 
> have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of 
> my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
> admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him.
> 
> But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go 
> AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, 
> obviously, give in to peer-group pressure.
> 
> This is not a leader; this is a follower.
> 
> We need a leader as president.
> 
> As Palin says: "This is not a man who sees America as you see America 
> and as I see America." Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president.
> 
> ---
> 
> Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists  
>  
> Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern
> By JIM KUHNHENN
> Associated Press Writer 
> 
> 'America Needs to Know This'
> 
>  
>   ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate 
> Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling 
> around with terrorists" because of his association with a former 
> 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as 
> unacceptable to American voters. 
> 
> Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group 
> the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, 
> including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, 
> during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who 
> was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with 
> Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and 
> activities. 
> 
> The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make 
> attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate 
> John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. 
> 
> Palin told a group of donors at a private ai

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[FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

[do.rflex]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of
> politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect,
> even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can 
cripple
> a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his 
vote.
> The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is 
tawdry
> enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural 
supporters.  [...]




Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is public information 
about Barky that can be used against him.




> 
> It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be
> effective.


Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is stuff about Barky that 
can be used against him that is true.




> The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth
> and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness.



Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is information about Barky 
that are not just kernels but whole cobs.



> 
> Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and
> prevents the campaign from talking issues. 
> 
> ~~  McCain campaign manager Rick Davis
> Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo
>

[FairfieldLife] Who's more of an elitist/nutcase/religious fanatic: Barry or Sarah?

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
> > nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
> > It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
> > in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
> > an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
> > of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
> 
> My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
> that she IS a part of a very small and very 
> important elite -- God's elite.
> 
> My take on the woman since seeing her give that
> talk to the graduating missionaries of her old
> church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic.
> Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes 
> now -- that God has big plans for her. 

[snip]

No matter how nutty you may paint Sarah Palin as a religious fanatic, 
Barry, nothing she has ever done in the spiritual field comes close 
to the fanaticism and nuttiness that you are/were involved in 
spiritually.  See:

http://tinyurl.com/3uytfb

That's why it is so surprising that you are so eager to cast 
dispersions on her.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[shempmcgurk]

According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of 
getting their facts wrong in the debate.

Here's their full fact check on the debate:

http://tinyurl.com/4fpela





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> But whats Truth got to do with it?
> 
> Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. 
Speaking
> right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
> lying to the American people and world.  
> 
> With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
> over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 
> 
> And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so 
clear
> he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
> 
> It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
> don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can 
be
> (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what 
handlers
> have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
> OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
> cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
> 
> (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I 
held
> their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing 
and
> cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned 
the 
> > gaffe
> > > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
> > treatment
> > > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> > > 
> > > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New 
York in
> > > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> > > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the 
city
> > > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
> > radio
> > > and TV to make speeches about it.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp 
is
> > > swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> > > 
> > > Looks like Biden was right.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what 
could 
> > pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the 
most 
> > limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
> > whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the 
broadcasts 
> > were local, not state-wide.
> > 
> > There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
> > broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
> > 
> > However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has 
been 
> > making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Palin: Barky is "palling around" with terrorists

[shempmcgurk]

At least someone in this campaign has some balls.

This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.

Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries 
about this?

What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of 
the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole 
lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.

And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William 
Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing 
for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.

Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is supposed 
to be different; he's supposed to be "change we can believe it"...a 
leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd 
is doing it.

If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, 
why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would 
have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of 
my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him.

But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go 
AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, 
obviously, give in to peer-group pressure.

This is not a leader; this is a follower.

We need a leader as president.

As Palin says: "This is not a man who sees America as you see America 
and as I see America." Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president.

---

Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists  
 
Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern
By JIM KUHNHENN
Associated Press Writer 

'America Needs to Know This'

 
  ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate 
Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling 
around with terrorists" because of his association with a former 
1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as 
unacceptable to American voters. 

Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group 
the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, 
including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, 
during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who 
was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with 
Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and 
activities. 

The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make 
attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate 
John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. 

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... 
is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, 
imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would 
target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees 
America as you see America and as I see America." 

Palin, Alaska's governor, said that donors on a greeting line had 
encouraged her and McCain to get tougher on Obama. She said an aide 
then advised her, "Sarah, the gloves are off, the heels are on, go 
get to them." 

The escalated effort to attack Obama's character dovetails with TV 
ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted 
former Obama fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Obama's former 
pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. 

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and 
Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on 
the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops 
community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 
2002. 

Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a 
school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a 
meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran 
for office in the mid-1990s. 

Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed 
Obama's relationship with Ayers. In an interview with CBS News 
earlier in the week, Palin didn't name any newspapers or magazines 
that had shaped her view of the world. 

Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: "A review of records of the 
schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, 
suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. 
Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has 
Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions 
of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable 
acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'" 

Earlier Saturday, Palin spent 35 minutes at a diner in Greenwood 
Village where she met with Blue Star Moms, a support group of 
families whose sons or daughters 

[FairfieldLife] a very peaceful ''hurricane''

[michael]

India, Land of the Veda: Tour on Maharishi's Vedic Science by renowned brain 
research expert an 'overwhelming success'
by Global Good News staff writer

Global Good News    Translate This Article
4 October 2008

Speaking on Maharishi Global Family Chat on 1 October, Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja 
of Invincible India, the land of the Veda, for the Global Country of World 
Peace, introduced Dr Alarik Arenander and Dr Cynthia Arenander and spoke of the 
'overwhelming success' of their tour of Northern India. The Arenanders are 
presenting Maharishi's Vedic Science to thousands of people there from the 
perspective of modern science and brain wave research. 

Raja Harris began by saying that recently in India he 'had met a force of 
nature, a very peaceful ''hurricane'' by the name of Hurricane Alarik and 
Hurricane Cynthia Arenander, who have come through India with a hurricane of 
peace and enlightenment'. (Raja Harris was alluding humorously to a recent 
series of storms in the western hemisphere.) 

Raja Harris said that 'this most fabulous couple' are still in India, and 
introduced the Arenanders, who 'by their own look and feeling, even before 
words start, convince people to practise Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technologies 
of consciousness. And then when they speak, everyone says ''I want to start 
right now.'' ' 

Speaking from Allahabad, India, Dr Alarik Arenander explained that they are in 
the middle of a six-week tour of India. He expressed their thanks to Raja 
Harris and Dr Girish Varma*, the leader of the 'gigantic' Indian organization 
of the Global Country of World Peace, for all their guidance, bliss, and 
support during the tour. Dr Alarik also thanked and praised all the individual 
organizers of the tour for 'so kindly taking care of everything' and looking 
after them so well. 

Dr Arenander explained they have given 55 presentations to literally thousands 
of people in groups of 200-500—including government officials, business people, 
students, teachers, Rotary members—many of whom are leaders in business and 
government institutions. 

Dr Alarik said that when they speak the people are 'enraptured with Maharishi's 
knowledge. It comes back to them in this logical, simple, research-oriented 
format, but it is Maharishi they love automatically, and [the knowledge] coming 
back in this scientific garb, they like it. They just so much appreciate it 
that everybody wants to start' the practice of Transcendental Meditation. 

Dr Alarik showed slides of the faculty and Transcendental Meditation Teachers 
working at Allahabad University—where Maharishi himself was a student—which has 
100,000 students. There was a great response to a lecture the Arenanders gave 
to the leaders of the university, and Maharishi University of Management has 
organized a team of Transcendental Meditation Teachers to be in Allahabad to 
help structure a programme for teaching the many individuals at the university. 

Dr Cynthia Arenander added that 'the air there is so traditional, and to think 
that Maharishi was there is a very special feeling.' 

Dr Alarik showed the EEG (electroencephalograph) reading for a local 
practitioner of Transcendental Meditation, which confirmed again 'that indeed, 
at the beginning of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Technique, within a 
very few moments, there is a phenomenon in the brain, a ''neuro-switch'', in 
which there is a very rapid and highly sustained onset of brain orderliness.' 

The appearance of pure alpha frequencies, coherence, and power is a 'very great 
indicator, a characteristic of the experience of Atma [the Self], the 
experience of Turiya [the fourth state of consciousness], Transcendental 
Consciousness. There is a sustained, very high level of coherence between the 
two sides of the brain and especially in the pre-frontal cortex, the learning 
or control centre of our lives,' Dr Arenander explained. 

'This phenomenon is unique to Transcendental Meditation, and is at the basis of 
all good things that come from the brain, and therefore all good things that 
come in the lives of those practising Transcendental Meditation.' 

Dr Cynthia added that 'a lot of the success is due to the old saying, ''Seeing 
is believing.'' ' When people actually see rather than just hear about all the 
scientific research, 'a switch goes on, she said. 'We feel that the doctors, 
especially, are saying that now they are given the documentation, this logic, 
that's how the brain is trained'—when they grasp the logic, 'as one doctor from 
Jabalpur Hospital said, ''Now you have our stamp of approval. We've always 
wanted to believe about Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation since Maharishi 
comes from this area, but now that we can actual see it, you have our stamp of 
approval.' This doctor will be learning Transcendental Meditation himself. 

Global Good News will continue to report on the Arenanders' tour of India in 
the coming days. 

* Dr Girish Varma is National Director of t

[FairfieldLife] McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent

[do.rflex]

The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of
politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect,
even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can cripple
a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his vote.
The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is tawdry
enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural supporters.  [...]

It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be
effective. The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth
and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness.

Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and
prevents the campaign from talking issues. 

~~  McCain campaign manager Rick Davis
Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[new . morning]

Dana Perino -- the presidents press secretary -- is a more subtle
paradox. She appears articulate, smart, well informed, is attractive
and vibrant -- and seems nimble and fast on her feet. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dana-perino-02.jpg

I find her enticing to watch -- even when defending and spinning Bush
and Bush policies.

But it appears to be a its a veneer -- 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://toohugeworld.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dana-perino.jpg&imgrefurl=http://toohugeworld.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/short-memory/&h=321&w=451&sz=35&tbnid=j8zG7eWhKAEJ::&tbnh=90&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddana%2Bperino&hl=en&usg=__N0LS1zcU5PkodN1wNCLI5gdENzI=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&cd=1
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
> > > nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
> > > It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
> > > in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
> > > an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
> > > of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
> > 
> > My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
> > that she IS a part of a very small and very 
> > important elite -- God's elite.
> > 
> 
> **
> 
> I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy 
> thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. 
> This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of 
> that thinking in the marketplace of ideas:
> 
> "...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a 
> particular type of woman—let's call her the Sexy Puritan—that's 
> become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent 
> years.
> 
> Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss 
> America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early 
> exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively 
> dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern 
> version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, 
> the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy 
> Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to 
> Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in 
> improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a 
> career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical 
> footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the 
> draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) 
> 
> 
> Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levels—not simply by 
> advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by 
> embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and 
> behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of 
> cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a 
> little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with 
> the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig 
> as you expected to.
> 
> http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/
>

[FairfieldLife] Karma-- Coming Home to Roost for US -- or bush supporters?

[new . morning]

B and or others said the US is in for it -- having started an invasion
abroad -- etc. 

Assuming for sake of discussion that karma is a valid principal -- how
does this work. Most here did not support Bush. In was both grand and
subtle, we have fought against him and his madness for most of the
decade. Why would the karma from his war come to us. Because our taxes
-- mandated by the govt paid for it? Seems a weak link -- particularly
since our taxes di not pay for it -- the chinese did. Will China go to
hell in a handbasket for loaning themoney to fight the war?
  
How much karmas national and how much individual (or perhaps group)? 

Bush and republicans have their karma coming due for lying and
cheating into a war. And then managing it with disasterous ineptitude.
Will those opposing the war receeve the same karmic blast -- simply
because they are unfortunate enough to live in the same country as
Bush and his devil friends? Seems thats suffering enough.

Take it back a step -- and some say getting Bush as president is our
karma. if so, is it a seed within a seed. We really f'ed up somewhere
in the past so we got Bush as president -- and contained within that
is all of the karma of Iraq?

If some do good and great things, is the karma shared with all
Americans? What if they are Californians? Is it shared mostly with
them? That is -- there are many groups, boundaries, etc. Why is the
American bucket (for karma) any more significant than any of the othr
groups and subsets to which we are connected? 

By hosing Iraq, did we suddenly create the "good" karma to get an
intelligent and considerate president in Nov? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
> > nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
> > It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
> > in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
> > an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
> > of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
> 
> My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
> that she IS a part of a very small and very 
> important elite -- God's elite.
> 

**

I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy 
thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. 
This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of 
that thinking in the marketplace of ideas:

"...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a 
particular type of woman—let's call her the Sexy Puritan—that's 
become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent 
years.

Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss 
America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early 
exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively 
dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern 
version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, 
the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy 
Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to 
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in 
improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a 
career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical 
footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the 
draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) 


Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levels—not simply by 
advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by 
embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and 
behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of 
cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a 
little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with 
the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig 
as you expected to.

http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/

[FairfieldLife] Scathing commentary on Sarah Palin by feminist Eve Ensler

[do.rflex]

Watch: http://www.goleft.tv/view.asp?c=27&v=1855

[FairfieldLife] CFLs may cut mercury exposure

[bob_brigante]

http://tinyurl.com/4c6abe 
Fluorescent lighting 
 uses less energy
than comparably bright incandescent bulbs
  do. So switching
to fluorescents will shave your energy bill. The big surprise: Relying
on fluorescent lights may also cut how much mercury — that toxic
metallic element — is released into the environment each year.



That finding was not intuitively obvious, since fluorescent lights
contain mercury and the bulbs they're replacing do not. But new
calculations by a team of Yale University  
scientists now indicate that when the electricity used to power lighting
comes primarily from coal-fired generating plants, the energy savings
associated with fluorescent bulbs will translate into reductions in coal
burning. And since most coal contains small but substantial quantities
of mercury, burning less coal will reduce the electric industry's
release of mercury into the environment. In fact, most mercury emissions
in the United States today trace to coal use
 .

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
> nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
> It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
> in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
> an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
> of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 

My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
that she IS a part of a very small and very 
important elite -- God's elite.

My take on the woman since seeing her give that
talk to the graduating missionaries of her old
church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic.
Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes 
now -- that God has big plans for her. 

She doesn't believe she's destined to be the Vice
President; she believes that she's destined to
be President. And she believes that God wants this
to happen. Which leads me to what Sarah Palin must 
think of Barrack Obama, the man who is currently
beating the pants off of her and the wrinkled old
guy who is merely a temporary obstacle to her
doing God's work and becoming President. 

Think about it -- if she really DOES believe that 
God has "big plans for her," what must slipping 
lower and lower in the polls leave her thinking 
that Obama is, or works for?  

Could it be...Satan?

Think this is silly? Watch her face and listen
to her voice every time she talks about Obama 
lately. Come to your own conclusions. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[bob_brigante]

... she is not part of an
> elite. She is certainly right about that.
>

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the observable universe...

[bob_brigante]

"Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky
beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and
NASA team members have discovered.

http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d 

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[feste37]

I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than
one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she
can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself
to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an
elite. She is certainly right about that. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Sarah Palin:
> 
> She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
> President of the United States, "Some of his comments that he has made
> about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
> from consideration as the next commander in chief." Palin said, "Some
> of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
> supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
> reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
> have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
> indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
> the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk
> to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for."
> 
> 
> Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago:
> 
> U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for
> recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan.
> 
> "I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets
> for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air
> strikes," Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in
> Kabul.
> 
> "While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian
> casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder."--
> 
> 
> Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost
> daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the
> Palin choice:
> 
> For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat,
> so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you
> should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the
> ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a
> candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the
> political leadership they have received are very closely related.--
> 
> 
> It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small
> alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is
> talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should
> speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on
> jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may
> explain her appeal to the Republican base.
> 
> ~~  by John Cole, former Republican
> Links here:  http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699
>

[FairfieldLife] McCain coffee mug

[bob_brigante]

 [Benedict Arnold, War Hero Large Mug] Benedict Arnold was a war hero
too

[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

[bob_brigante]

>
> Ha Ha! Classic!
> 
> 

***

I'm sure everybody is aware that ignorance is not solely held by 
towelheads:

"How does the U.S. compare with other countries in terms of belief in 
evolution? Not so hot. A study of attitudes in 34 countries published 
in Science in 2006 shows that the United States ranks last in popular 
acceptance of evolution except for Turkey. Almost 40 percent of 
Americans in this study flatly rejected evolution...

http://tinyurl.com/3kvoo3

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
 
> > This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
> > was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
> > to use as she saw fit.
> > 
> > What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
> > cares if it's been debunked??
> 
> It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world,
> unsubstantiated, unresearched theory?

He didn't have to "research" it, just read the
article he himself cited. Apparently he only
skimmed the first couple of paragraphs, then
assumed he magically knew the whole story,
including where she got the idea for the attack
and why she decided to use it.

What's really funny is that there's more basis
in reality for Palin's attack than there is for
Barry's fantasies about it. And then he bases his
subject heading on his fantasies, as if they
were established fact.

Remember last week when he mocked people here
by accusing them of calling McCain a "hero"?

Nobody on FFL had called McCain a hero except
Barry himself, in a previous spate of mockery
of McCain.

The Republicans generally know when they're
making stuff up; they just don't care. I don't
think Barry is even aware that's what he's
doing.

It's no wonder he's so threatened by
solipsists, even to the point of punching them
in the stomach to get them to shut up.

[FairfieldLife] America Is About To be Reintroduced To Rev. Wright

[do.rflex]

The GOP is desperate. Expect the worst of the worst to
start hitting here soon. Jeremiah Wright is overdue for 
his second act, as well as Ayers, the Muslim crap, and 
anything else desperate Republicans can fabricate. At 
this point, they literally have nothing to lose.

~~  Markos Moulitsas
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/1/165238/584/399/616938


Flop sweat smells like fear:

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly
aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to
win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions
about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations,
several top Republicans said.

With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has
decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero,
experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to
close a growing gap with Obama.

The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation
away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has
helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican
operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is
coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon.
There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the
operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the
condition of anonymity.


In other words, they are going to behave like Republicans in October.
No one could have ever predicted this would happen. That could explain
this pointless piece in the NY Times today about William Ayers (long
story short- there really is no relationship there), and could explain
why the wingnuttosphere was whipping themselves into a froth about the
FBI's raiding the office of Larry Walsh, when it turns out they did
nothing of the sort.

The thing about this is that while it will no doubt infuriate folks
like me, the good news is that we know some stuff about negative
advertising- yes, it works, but it also drags down the negatives of
the people launching it.

Additionally, we know that there are ways to combat negative
campaigning, and that the Obama campaign is aware of this and knows
what they are doing- on many of the things that will be brought up,
the country has already dealt with them and moved on.

Another factor is the enthusiasm factor- most of the Obama supporters
I know would crawl over glass to vote for him in November. And
finally, for those of you who are Michael Pfau fans, we know that
elections usually end badly for folks who never get out of the
negative campaigning phase of the election cycle.

In other words, bring it on. McCain will continue to trash his brand
as a straight-talking bi-partisan maverick, the media will be
repulsed, and it really is too little too late.

I really am surprised that they thought they could run a substance
free biography based campaign during a two-front war and an economic
crisis, but by now I should never be surprised by Republican stupidity.

~~  by John Cole, former Republican
Key links here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11715 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bailout unfair to Canadians

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that 
> suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of 
> all real estate purchases in the area.
> 
> This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American "second 
> homes": (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any 
> time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low 
> prices.
> 
> But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, 
> making purchases more expensive for Canadians.
> 
> Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA?  I'm 
> only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of 
> provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries 
> regarding "unfair" subsidies.
> 
> Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under 
> NAFTA?
>

Funny point.

But highlights a major problem with the bailout. it indirectly props
up housing prices above levels consistent with the fundamentals. this
imbalance with continue to create problems and haunt the economy and
tax payer until housing prices are left to fall to fundamentals-based
levels.  

[FairfieldLife] Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

[new . morning]

But whats Truth got to do with it?

Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking
right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
lying to the American people and world.  

With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 

And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear
he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.

It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be
(and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers
have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?

(But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held
their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and
cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the 
> gaffe
> > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
> treatment
> > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> > 
> > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in
> > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city
> > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
> radio
> > and TV to make speeches about it.
> > 
> > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is
> > swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> > 
> > Looks like Biden was right.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> 
> Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what could 
> pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the most 
> limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
> whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the broadcasts 
> were local, not state-wide.
> 
> There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
> broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
> 
> However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been 
> making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pure energy and intelligence.
> (Hopefully)
> �
> _say it ain't so...
>

What are you when you ARE "having thoughts?"


Lawson (lots more quotes appropriate above, but left 'em out...)

[FairfieldLife] Bailout unfair to Canadians

[shempmcgurk]

I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that 
suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of 
all real estate purchases in the area.

This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American "second 
homes": (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any 
time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low 
prices.

But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, 
making purchases more expensive for Canadians.

Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA?  I'm 
only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of 
provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries 
regarding "unfair" subsidies.

Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under 
NAFTA?

[FairfieldLife] Republicans Desperate to shutdown Palin Troopergate Investigation

[do.rflex]

Republican state legislators, at the behest of the McCain campaign,
have now filed an emergency appeal with the Alaska Supreme Court
trying to shutdown the 'Troopergate' investigation. The plaintiffs
(echoing the Bush v. Gore decision) claim "the plaintiffs and Alaskans
will suffer irreparable harm" if the Branchflower report is released,
as scheduled, next Friday, October 10th.

Bear in mind, the people in charge of the investigation moved the
release date up so as not to have it released on the eve of the
election. That was the original schedule long before Palin was chosen
as veep nominee. And the GOP lawyers the McCain campaign sent to
Alaska have succeeded in having almost all the parties connected to
Palin refuse to cooperate with the investigation. So it's not
completely clear just what Branchflower is going to be able to come up
with, either inculpating or exculpating.

But this is an opportunity to refocus our attention on something that
has been lost in the nonstop coverage of Palin's campaign trail lies
and botched interviews: her record in Alaska strongly suggests she
lacks the character to be trusted with high office. 

Though the troopergate scandal is tied narrowly to Palin's firing of
Alaska's top cop, Walt Monegan, the heart of the story is about a
private vendetta that Palin tried to settle using her new powers as
the chief executive of the state of Alaska. Thwarted in doing so, all
evidence suggests she fired the public official who refused to execute
her plan.

Nor is it the only example. Both as mayor and governor, Palin has
shown the tell-tale signs of a politician who hires cronies and fires
or blackballs critics. This part of Palin's record gets deep in the
weeds. So it's not as flashy as the boffo interviews or and
irresistible as the straight-up lies she's been caught in. But we need
no closer example than the Bush administration to know that people
like this are dangerous and corrosive to our public institutions.

--Josh Marshall
Links: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/221903.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[new . morning]

Graph of national debt as % of GDP

http://wasatchecon.blogspot.com/2007/05/us-national-debt-as-percentage-of-gdp.html


http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/28/165539.php


As I pointed out yesterday, the debt / GNP ratio was lowest (in modern
era) under Carter. Was the economy strongest during the Carter years? 

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> > > 
> > > 1) Total federal (public) debt
> > > 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> > > 
> > > And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> > The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
> > to bear for any country. 
> 
> Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
> country with a billion people?
> 
> 
> > There should be a goal to at least reduce 
> > the debt by half in about 25 years.  
> 
> Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
> 
> > Once that's reached, there 
> > should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
> > half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
> 
> So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
> national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
> cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything
> else being equal than one with some debt? 
>  
> > Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.
> > 
> You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
> What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> 1) Total federal (public) debt
> 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
>  
> Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
> Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
> debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive
> to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
> "appropriate" level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
> economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal
> debt.
> 
> Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
> building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
> should be done in all upfront cash?
> 
> Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
> might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
> better than reducing debt, during a recession?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To All:
> > > > 
> > > > It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
> > and 
> > > > the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
> > national 
> > > > debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
> > forget 
> > > > to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
> > that 
> > > > cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
> > > > 
> > > > President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
> > > > administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
> > reduce 
> > > > the national debt--but not by much.
> > > > 
> > > > In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
> > > > which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
> > the 
> > > > national debt.
> > > > 
> > > > Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
> > the 
> > > > party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
> > > > eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
> > > > 
> > > > But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FDR on TV in 1929? -- Biden gaffe

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


[snip]

> I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the 
gaffe
> of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
treatment
> of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
> 
> My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in
> 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
> broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city
> where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
radio
> and TV to make speeches about it.
> 
> Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is
> swallowing it hook line a sinker.
> 
> Looks like Biden was right.
> 
> OffWorld
>


Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what could 
pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the most 
limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the broadcasts 
were local, not state-wide.

There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.

However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been 
making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> > What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> > 
> > 1) Total federal (public) debt
> > 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> > 
> > And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
> > 



> The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
> to bear for any country. 

Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
country with a billion people?


> There should be a goal to at least reduce 
> the debt by half in about 25 years.  

Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?

> Once that's reached, there 
> should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
> half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.

So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything
else being equal than one with some debt? 
 
> Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.
> 
You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
1) Total federal (public) debt
2) Foreign holding of federal debt
 
Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive
to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
"appropriate" level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal
debt.

Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
should be done in all upfront cash?

Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
better than reducing debt, during a recession?




> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > To All:
> > > 
> > > It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
> and 
> > > the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
> national 
> > > debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
> forget 
> > > to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
> that 
> > > cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
> > > 
> > > President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
> > > administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
> reduce 
> > > the national debt--but not by much.
> > > 
> > > In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
> > > which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
> the 
> > > national debt.
> > > 
> > > Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
> the 
> > > party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
> > > eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
> > > 
> > > But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Apparently the 'caste' system was first 
> > brought to India from the West during 
> > the 'Aryan' invasions.
> >
Peter wrote:
> "Williams" is that an old Gujurati name?
> 
Indeed, the name 'Williams' covers the earth.

There have been 'Willams' in Gujarat certainly
since before 1858, the beginning of the British 
Raj.

The Gujaratis are descended from the Aryans
who migrated to Gujarat from Georgia around
the first century BC. But there is no evidence
that the inhabitants of Lothal supported the
'caste' system.

[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Sarah Palin:
> 
> She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
> President of the United States, "Some of his comments that he has 
made
> about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
> from consideration as the next commander in chief." Palin 
said, "Some
> of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
> supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
> reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
> have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
> indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
> the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to 
talk
> to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand 
for."
> 

IMO, the McCain campaign is realizing that they are behind in the 
polls.  They are taking harder swings at the illusive ball of 
victory, hoping for a grand slam.  As such, Palin has been designated 
to take swipes at Obama's increasing lead in the polls.  It's a 
double edged sword.  She can also strike out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
> 
> 1) Total federal (public) debt
> 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
> 
> And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
> 

The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
to bear for any country.  There should be a goal to at least reduce 
the debt by half in about 25 years.  Once that's reached, there 
should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.

Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > To All:
> > 
> > It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
and 
> > the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
national 
> > debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
forget 
> > to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
that 
> > cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
> > 
> > President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
> > administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
reduce 
> > the national debt--but not by much.
> > 
> > In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
> > which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
the 
> > national debt.
> > 
> > Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
the 
> > party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
> > eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
> > 
> > But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

[Sal Sunshine]

On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, gullible fool wrote:

Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of  
place as a Christmas card:


http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm


Rick, I was just kidding--the photos are really nice.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> do.rflex wrote:
> > Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
> > to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
> > forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN
reports.
> >
> > "We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
> > loan and give her the house," said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. "Given
> > the circumstances, we think it's appropriate."
> >
> > Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
> > Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
> > Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
> > house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
> > describing what he saw.
> >
> > "There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
> > thing about it," said Akron City Council President Marco
> > Sommerville."They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
> > her. This is just a major problem."
> >
> > CNN explains Polk's story:
> >
> > In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
> > $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
> > The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.
> >
> > Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
> > 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
> > 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.
> >
> > Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
> > times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
> > the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
> > they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.
> >
> > Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
> > homes. "But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
> > and the economy is in the shape that it's in?"
> >
> > He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help
Polk.
> >
> > USA TODAY:
> > http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 
> I hear this kind of story a lot around here.  People refinanced and
then 
> took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money.  The 
> selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with 
> her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with
extra 
> money when they sell.  The house on the same corner was sold earlier 
> this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and 
> also took out a LOC.  When they sold at around $500K they had to
come up 
> with an extra $27K because of the difference.
> 
> I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but 
> still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis.   I learned that
loans 
> aren't "free money."  Bet others can relate to that here and how that 
> lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis.


The buyer HAS to *know* the loan terms and his/her *realistic* ability
to pay it back. My father repeated to me over and over to "never bet
on the come." 

However, it's obvious at this point that there has been a multitude of
unscrupulous lenders who have mislead gullible and/or vulnerable
buyers with 'easy' beginning rates and false pitches of market
prosperity - solely for the purpose of closing a deal for their fee.
This is a direct consequence of 'free market' deregulation. It's like
they decriminalized fucking people over.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[new . morning]

What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 

1) Total federal (public) debt
2) Foreign holding of federal debt

And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To All:
> 
> It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and 
> the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national 
> debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget 
> to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer that 
> cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
> 
> President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
> administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce 
> the national debt--but not by much.
> 
> In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
> which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the 
> national debt.
> 
> Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the 
> party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
> eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
> 
> But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
>

[FairfieldLife] -Clueless

[do.rflex]

Sarah Palin:

She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
President of the United States, "Some of his comments that he has made
about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
from consideration as the next commander in chief." Palin said, "Some
of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk
to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for."


Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago:

U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for
recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan.

"I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets
for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air
strikes," Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in
Kabul.

"While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian
casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder."--


Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost
daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the
Palin choice:

For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat,
so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you
should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the
ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a
candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the
political leadership they have received are very closely related.--


It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small
alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is
talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should
speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on
jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may
explain her appeal to the Republican base.

~~  by John Cole, former Republican
Links here:  http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699

Re: [FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

[Bhairitu]

do.rflex wrote:
> Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
> to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
> forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports.
>
> "We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
> loan and give her the house," said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. "Given
> the circumstances, we think it's appropriate."
>
> Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
> Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
> Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
> house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
> describing what he saw.
>
> "There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
> thing about it," said Akron City Council President Marco
> Sommerville."They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
> her. This is just a major problem."
>
> CNN explains Polk's story:
>
> In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
> $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
> The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.
>
> Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
> 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
> 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.
>
> Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
> times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
> the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
> they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.
>
> Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
> homes. "But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
> and the economy is in the shape that it's in?"
>
> He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk.
>
> USA TODAY:
> http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 
I hear this kind of story a lot around here.  People refinanced and then 
took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money.  The 
selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with 
her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with extra 
money when they sell.  The house on the same corner was sold earlier 
this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and 
also took out a LOC.  When they sold at around $500K they had to come up 
with an extra $27K because of the difference.

I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but 
still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis.   I learned that loans 
aren't "free money."  Bet others can relate to that here and how that 
lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis.

[FairfieldLife] The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

[John]

To All:

It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and 
the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national 
debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget 
to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer that 
cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.

President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce 
the national debt--but not by much.

In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the 
national debt.

Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the 
party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.

But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

[Peter]

Ha Ha! Classic!


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab 
> News Publishes...)
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:44 AM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily
> > Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429)
> > 
> > An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism
> > David R. Leffler
> 
> 
> Looks as if the ME has finally found a "home,"
> somewhere readers will take it seriously and
> understand that it's hard science...just as 
> real and as supported by science as, say, the 
> "evil eye." From the same issue of UK-based 
> ArabNews.com:
> 
> 
> Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura
> Bashraheel
>  
> JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the
> Kingdom — like
> those of other cultures and religions — generally believe
> in. However,
> many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a
> psyche to
> continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to
> the concept.
> 
> The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as "Ain,"
> comes into effect
> when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the
> person
> affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of
> material harm.
> 
> The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the
> influence of the
> evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when
> someone
> sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from
> the evil
> eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke
> God's blessings on
> the object or person that is being admired. Reciting
> certain verses
> from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from
> the evil eye.
> 
> In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the
> evil eye
> symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out
> wiping rituals.
> However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and
> a clean
> forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith
> teaches
> believers to look toward those who are above them when
> considering
> righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them
> when
> considering their material physical wellbeing.
> 
> However, some people go to the extreme by believing that
> the evil eye
> is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy
> people
> refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye
> might
> adversely affect them.
> 
> One mother of three, who asked her name not be published,
> is convinced
> that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too
> much money or
> show off their opulence.
> 
> Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in
> Canada, believed
> that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he
> first brought
> the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds
> into it to
> protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing
> and curing
> especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.)
> 
> The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of
> the black seeds
> when he got the car cleaned.
> 
> Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that
> she and her
> friends once befriended a woman.
> 
> "My friends and I started to hang out with this woman.
> The first time
> she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first
> walked into the
> house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and
> commented on how
> nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them
> by sitting
> on them," said Ibrahim.
> 
> Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave
> birth to her
> first child. The woman commented on how she was
> breast-feeding her
> baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a
> strange type
> of eczema.
> 
> "On another occasion we were all at my friend's
> house and the woman
> commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that
> time a
> charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The
> resulting burn
> looked like an eye," she said. "This was when we
> decided not to
> contact her again."
> 
> Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at
> the Jeddah
> Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes
> the effects
> of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all
> sickness to
> the concept.
> 
> "As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the
> evil eye but some
> people go to extremes," said Al-Khateeb.
> 
> "If someone is affected with the evil eye and then
> falls in the street
> and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious
> man? The
> result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically,"
> he added.
> 
> Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye.
> "If someone
> was affected with it then he or she should see a
> specialist, for
> example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and
> not a magician
> who uses black m

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hey O.J./It's called kkkarma, dude!'

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 44 minutes ago 
> 
> LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to 
celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was 
found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at 
gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room. 

It's not over until it's over.  OJ still can appeal the verdict.  His 
alternative lifestyle since the LA acquittal case has been as a 
person in exile in Florida.  And, now he has a chance to live his 
life as a convict in jail.  It's actually a sad case of a man who 
rose to the heights of adulation and crash down to a level of an 
outcaste in society.


















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> 
> 
> The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his 
life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.
> A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges 
were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was 
immediately taken into custody.
> The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed 
robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and 
storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized 
several game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the 
men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring 
a gun.
> The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of 
murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald 
Goldman, in Los Angeles in one of the most sensational trials of the 
20th century.
> "I don't like to use the word payback," defense attorney Yale 
Galanter said. "I can tell you from the beginning my biggest 
concern ... was whether or not the jury would be able to separate 
their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and judge him fairly and 
honestly."
> Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, also was found 
guilty on all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody.
> Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked 
him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind 
him in the arms of Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said "I love 
you" as Simpson passed by. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio 
collapsed.
> Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the 
courtroom. They declined to answer questions after the verdict was 
read.
> Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a 
courthouse conversation with an Associated Press reporter on 
Thursday, Simpson had implied as much.
> Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was "afraid that I 
won't get to go to my kids' college graduations after I managed to 
get them through college."
> Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. "His only hope is 
the appellate process," he said.
> Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment 
until the case was "completely resolved."
> Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for 
its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on 
bail.
> She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for 
new trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. 
The attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record.
> "I've sat through the trial," Glass said. "If you want a motion for 
new trial, send me something."
> Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal.
> "If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the 
history of jurisprudence, it's this case," he said of unsuccessful 
attempts to separate Stewart's case from Simpson's because of 
the "spillover" effect. 
> From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was 
not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been 
stolen from him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and 
did not see any guns. 
> The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who 
wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who 
saw his arrest as an opportunity to "get" him and avenge his 
acquittal. 
> Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was 
irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force. 
> "When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far 
side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody 
out of here!' — six very large people detaining these two victims in 
the room with the intent to take property through force or violence 
from them — that's kidnapping," prosecutor David Roger said. 
> Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed 
robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind 
bars, and could bring as much as 30

[FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

[do.rflex]

Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports.

"We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
loan and give her the house," said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. "Given
the circumstances, we think it's appropriate."

Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
describing what he saw.

"There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
thing about it," said Akron City Council President Marco
Sommerville."They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
her. This is just a major problem."

CNN explains Polk's story:

In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
$45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.

Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.

Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.

Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
homes. "But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
and the economy is in the shape that it's in?"

He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk.

USA TODAY:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest?
> What do the Vedas say about this?

The vedic literature favors the warrior class (kshatriyas) to govern 
society.  The intellectuals (brahmins) are best suited as advisors and 
priests.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> I've been expecting this:
>
> Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
> With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/4f436p
>
> In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the 
> inevitable -- having an "anti-handler
> attack." It was inevitable because, just
> like McCain, she really is a maverick 
> at heart (that is, someone who does not 
> think before he or she acts, and believes
> that this is a "higher order" of action
> than thinking things through), and has 
> resented the 8-10 hours a day of "remedial 
> education" that have been forced on her 
> to prep her for the debate.
>
> Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
> herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
> "I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
> scending bastards that I know a thing or
> two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
> points."
>
> That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
> No handler in the Republican Party would have
> let her trot out an old crapola smear like
> this. She pretty much had to have discovered
> it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
> Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
> "doing her research" on Obama before the 
> debate itself? This was one of the "zingers"
> she thought she'd found, and was saving for
> the appropriate moment to unleash.
>
> And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed
> off at being handled -- and needing it -- she
> decided to "go with her gut" and take the same
> kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that
> McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee.
>
> In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling
> on most of what she said to Katie Couric, 
> while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge
> pattern we saw when she took office as mayor,
> and then again as governor. The moment she feels
> that the "pressure is off," she goes into revenge
> mode and starts lashing out at her perceived 
> enemies, "going with her gut" in an attempt to
> 1) "get" them and 2) "prove" that she doesn't 
> need handling.
>
> Unfortunately, she does.
>
> Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the
> next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on 
> her for a few days, and now they realize what
> happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down
> on her again, and she'll resent that even more,
> and keep "going with her gut."
>
> And that's going to be really entertaining...
MovieStorm a free program I use to make 3D animations has released an 
Election 2008 addon pack (not free though inexpensive) complete with 
Palin, McCain, Obama, Bush and they will be adding Biden.   I'm going to 
have some fun with this particularly taking some Frances McDormand lines 
from Fargo for Palin to say (completely non-sequitur of course).
http://www.moviestorm.co.uk/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

[gullible fool]

 
Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of place as a 
Christmas card:
 
http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:15 PM




On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm

Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.


Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's 
so special about the gazebo?


Sal

 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm
> 
> Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.
> 
> Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's
> so special about the gazebo?
> 
> Sal
>

It creates woo woo energy like the pyramids and SV homes. duh.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >

> This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
> was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
> to use as she saw fit.
> 
> What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
> cares if it's been debunked??


It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world, unsubstantiated,
unresearched theory? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

[Sal Sunshine]

On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:


http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm


Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.

Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's
so special about the gazebo?

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

[Rick Archer]

http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been expecting this:
> 
> Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
> With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-
pali_n_131841.html
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/4f436p

> Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
> herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
> "I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
> scending bastards that I know a thing or
> two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
> points."
> 
> That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
> No handler in the Republican Party would have
> let her trot out an old crapola smear like
> this. She pretty much had to have discovered
> it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
> Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
> "doing her research" on Obama before the 
> debate itself? This was one of the "zingers"
> she thought she'd found, and was saving for
> the appropriate moment to unleash.

Heh. Try actually reading the article you cited:

"One year after Obama's initial remark, the McCain
campaign marked the anniversary by randomly raising
it in the form of a biting press release. That
charge didn't create many waves. (The Huffington
Post wrote an article examining that attack as well.)
But the McCain campaign kept at it..."

This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
to use as she saw fit.

What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
cares if it's been debunked??

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?

[Peter]

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Richard J. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:45 AM
> > > So is there a caste lower than untouchable?
> > > 
> Curtis wrote:
> > Yes, Untouchables are still in the caste system.  
> > The shit-for-brains status for Westerners with 
> > no shakka lineage is called "outcaste", not
> > even IN the caste system.  
> > 
> Obviously you're in the elite, Curtis. Like
> you'd be knowing anything about the Hindu 
> social systems. Apparently the 'caste' system
> was first brought to India from the West during 
> the 'Aryan' invasions.

"Williams" is that an old Gujurati name?



 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

[gullible fool]

Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
he has the most executive experience.
 
Living in Massachusetts, I thought Romney would be the best of all the 
Republicans by far. The US will be better of with Obama, though, both because 
he's a few notches higher on the evolutionary scale than all the others and 
because the US is accustomed to swinging back and forth from one party to 
another and now it is the other party's turn. 
 
I vote the person, not the party. If it had been Romney versus Hillary, I 
would have voted Republican again, which I have not done since before Hagelin 
ran.
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:36 AM

John wrote:
> At this time, the Americans would be looking 
> for the most qualified executives who can 
> steer the country in the right direction for 
> the next four years at least.
>
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
he has the most executive experience.




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[FairfieldLife] Geek Meditation -- the new Checking procedure

[TurquoiseB]

Just as Maharishi adapted meditation to the 
language of the times, so will the next
generation of meditation teachers:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2053458310_6a30f248b1_o.jpg

There should be one more talk balloon at 
the end that says, "It was user friendly?"

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: We're Screwed Now: The Pelosi, Reid, Bush bailout passes

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu wrote:
> There *will* be blow back.  
>
"All of this raises the question: are 
they trying to make things worse in the 
hopes of furthering their party's election 
prospects? Similar suspicions were raised 
when Nancy Pelosi seemed to inflame her 
partisan opponents and resist any effort 
to whip her own caucus on the first failed 
bailout bill vote. Certainly as the 
financial crisis has intensified their 
electoral prospects have brightened."

Read more:

'What's The Matter With Harry?'
By Jennifer Rubin
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/

[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily
> Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429)
> 
> An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism
> David R. Leffler


Looks as if the ME has finally found a "home,"
somewhere readers will take it seriously and
understand that it's hard science...just as 
real and as supported by science as, say, the 
"evil eye." From the same issue of UK-based 
ArabNews.com:


Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura Bashraheel
 
JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the Kingdom — like
those of other cultures and religions — generally believe in. However,
many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a psyche to
continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to the concept.

The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as "Ain," comes into effect
when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the person
affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of material harm.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the influence of the
evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when someone
sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from the evil
eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke God's blessings on
the object or person that is being admired. Reciting certain verses
from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from the evil eye.

In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the evil eye
symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out wiping rituals.
However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and a clean
forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith teaches
believers to look toward those who are above them when considering
righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them when
considering their material physical wellbeing.

However, some people go to the extreme by believing that the evil eye
is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy people
refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye might
adversely affect them.

One mother of three, who asked her name not be published, is convinced
that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too much money or
show off their opulence.

Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in Canada, believed
that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he first brought
the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds into it to
protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing and curing
especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.)

The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of the black seeds
when he got the car cleaned.

Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that she and her
friends once befriended a woman.

"My friends and I started to hang out with this woman. The first time
she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first walked into the
house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and commented on how
nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them by sitting
on them," said Ibrahim.

Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave birth to her
first child. The woman commented on how she was breast-feeding her
baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a strange type
of eczema.

"On another occasion we were all at my friend's house and the woman
commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that time a
charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The resulting burn
looked like an eye," she said. "This was when we decided not to
contact her again."

Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at the Jeddah
Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes the effects
of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all sickness to
the concept.

"As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the evil eye but some
people go to extremes," said Al-Khateeb.

"If someone is affected with the evil eye and then falls in the street
and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious man? The
result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically," he added.

Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye. "If someone
was affected with it then he or she should see a specialist, for
example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and not a magician
who uses black magic. As psychiatrists we try to cure the illness ...
we try to convince the patient that he or she needs help," he added.

Al-Khateeb pointed out that some people attribute certain chronic
psychological illnesses whose causes are unclear to the evil eye. "I
also believe that the media plays a role in making people believe that
evil eye is behind everything, such as a soap about black magic and
the evil eye aired on MBC in Ramadan. If someone is a believer he or
she would never be affected," he added.

[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

[TurquoiseB]

I've been expecting this:

Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/4f436p

In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the 
inevitable -- having an "anti-handler
attack." It was inevitable because, just
like McCain, she really is a maverick 
at heart (that is, someone who does not 
think before he or she acts, and believes
that this is a "higher order" of action
than thinking things through), and has 
resented the 8-10 hours a day of "remedial 
education" that have been forced on her 
to prep her for the debate.

Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
"I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
scending bastards that I know a thing or
two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
points."

That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
No handler in the Republican Party would have
let her trot out an old crapola smear like
this. She pretty much had to have discovered
it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
"doing her research" on Obama before the 
debate itself? This was one of the "zingers"
she thought she'd found, and was saving for
the appropriate moment to unleash.

And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed
off at being handled -- and needing it -- she
decided to "go with her gut" and take the same
kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that
McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee.

In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling
on most of what she said to Katie Couric, 
while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge
pattern we saw when she took office as mayor,
and then again as governor. The moment she feels
that the "pressure is off," she goes into revenge
mode and starts lashing out at her perceived 
enemies, "going with her gut" in an attempt to
1) "get" them and 2) "prove" that she doesn't 
need handling.

Unfortunately, she does.

Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the
next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on 
her for a few days, and now they realize what
happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down
on her again, and she'll resent that even more,
and keep "going with her gut."

And that's going to be really entertaining...

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

[Robert]

 (snip)
> > the next four years at least.
> >
> Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
> John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
> ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
> he has the most executive experience.
 (snip)
If we're just seeking executive experience,
Why not elect Bevan Morris as president?
Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Australia...

What about Arnold Schwartzennager...
Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Austria...

I pick the priest.
I will be voting for the eventual winner:
Barack Obama.
R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

[Robert]

 (snip)
Dear Tex,
I'm sorry for thinking you were gay,
But, I wasn't really thinking you were gay.
But, I'm sorry you took it the wrong way.
I know I haven't been too politically correct,
In my observations of the Gay and Lesbian culture...
And I apologize for that.
God Bless all the Gay and Lesbian people in this world,
And the next.
Amen.