[FairfieldLife] Re: Green Tara

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> http://www.fpmt-osel.org/gallery/tara.htm



I think that I once dated her. The green tint comes
from an overfondness for well drinks during happy
hour but she usually sobered up by closing time.
And, oh the things she could do with those ears!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[TurquoiseB]

I'm sure it will be a fascinating course for 
those who like that sorta thing, but for me
nothing could better exemplify the TMO's
approach to self discovery and enlighenment:
60 bucks to hear about *someone else's*
"good experiences."

There was a time when TM was marketed for $35
as a way to have such experiences oneself. Now,
40 years later, they're reduced to selling
stories of other people's experiences to those
who still haven't had very many of their own. 

I mention this because I've been noticing the
same thing here on FFL. Have you ever noticed
that the strongest TM defenders tend to cite
someone else's experiences or "scientific 
studies" (which is essentially the same thing)
to support their claims, never their own? One 
could begin to suspect that the reason for this 
is that they don't have any of their own to 
present.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
> 
> MUM Review:
> 
> Seminar Offered on Experiences of Saints
> 
> A unique six-session seminar, titled "In Their Own Words: 
> Experiences of the Saints of Christianity, Judaism and 
> Islam," is currently being offered to the community.
> 
> Taught by Evan Finkelstein, the seminar is highlighting the divine
> experiences of great saints from these three traditions in the 
> light of Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness.
> 
> The sessions are being held on six consecutive Wednesday evenings,
> starting on September 9. All sessions begin at 8:00 p.m., in Dalby 
> Hall of the Argiro Student Center. Those who missed the first 
> session may still enroll in the seminar.
> 
> The cost for six sessions is $60 with a 10% discount for Invincible
> America Course Participants; the fee for full-time students, 
> faculty, and staff is $10.
> 
> Quotes from Maharishi and many writings of Christian, Jewish and 
> Muslim saints are being discussed and explored; there will also 
> be a PowerPoint presentation and time for comments and questions.
> 
> An example of the quotations is this by Abd Al-Karim Jili: "It 
> is the Holy Spirit which witnesses to man's innate perfection, 
> the Spirit is man's real nature and within him is the secret 
> shrine of the Divine"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> ---Naturally, there will be a lot of selectivity in regard to 
> the quotes; since Christianity looked at as a whole is populated 
> by far more Orthodox-dualistic "Saints" than Mystics such as 
> Meister Eckhart.
> But now the Saint is Aaron Eckhart and I'm wondering if I should 
> see the movie with him and Jennifer Anniston.

You might not be able to. It turns out that the
script was very possibly stolen from the two
original writers, and they are filing suit to
prevent the release of the movie. Word on the
street is that they can prove that all that the
studio did was rework their original script
slightly and credit it to different writers,
and that they can prove this.

>  The MUM people would of course have people believe that any 
> dualistic talk among the Christian Saints would amount only 
> to a stepping-stone on the road to pure Impersonalism. But 
> obviously, the whole point of Orthodox Christianity is the 
> Person of Jesus, redemption via Sacrifice; a concept which 
> harkens back long before Jesus with the Judaic practice of 
> animal sacrifice, including goats and lambs. (thus, the 
> saying "Lamb of Christ"...who taketh away the sins of 
> the world",...etc).   

I see this whole compulsion of Maharishi's to 
"reinterpret" the world's religions and "recast"
them in terms of TM as an extension of Hinduism
and its original co-opting of the Buddha. Same
thing exactly...if you can find some way to claim
that the original competing tradition was "really"
teaching the same thing that the TMO teaches, but
in a "lesser," less-fully-understood way, you
simultaneously 1) put that other tradition down,
and 2) co-opt it to some extent so that your own
students won't be tempted to check it out and thus
"stray from the highest path." And, in so doing,
take their money somewhere else (or keep it, 
because many of these other traditions teach for
free). 

As I said about Edg's comment on "threenesses"
the other day, I tend to see this trend as "scripture
fulfillment fantasies," the projection of one's own
scriptures or world view onto another tradition's.
In his case, he desired to make the square peg of
the three gunas fit into the mention of a triad of
forces in physics. In this case, there is a *stated*
desire to "interpret" all of these saints' exper-
iences *in terms of* Maharishi's teachings and TM.

And, as I said then, that strikes me as a fun thing
to do if one is doing it just *for* fun, and knows
that at best it's creative-but-entertaining bullshit.
When done as if it were serious -- or worse, true or
Truth -- not so much.

If anyone attends, I'd love to hear some of the things
taught in such a class. 


> In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > MUM Review:
> > 
> > Seminar Offered on Experiences of Saints
> > 
> > A unique six-session seminar, titled "In Their Own Words: Experiences of
> > the
> > Saints of Christianity, Judaism and Islam," is currently being offered
> > to
> > the community.
> > 
> > Taught by Evan Finkelstein, the seminar is highlighting the divine
> > experiences of great saints from these three traditions in the light of
> > Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness.
> > 
> > The sessions are being held on six consecutive Wednesday evenings,
> > starting
> > on September 9. All sessions begin at 8:00 p.m., in Dalby Hall of the
> > Argiro
> > Student Center. Those who missed the first session may still enroll in
> > the
> > seminar.
> > 
> > The cost for six sessions is $60 with a 10% discount for Invincible
> > America
> > Course Participants; the fee for full-time students, faculty, and staff
> > is
> > $10.
> > 
> > Quotes from Maharishi and many writings of Christian, Jewish and Muslim
> > saints are being discussed and explored; there will also be a PowerPoint
> > presentation and time for comments and questions.
> > 
> > An example of the quotations is this by Abd Al-Karim Jili: "It is the
> > Holy
> > Spirit which witnesses to man's innate perfection, the Spirit is man's
> > real
> > nature and within him is the secret shrine of the Divine"
> >
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[lurkernomore20002000]

I think a far more interesting course would have been, "The Secret Life
of Saints".  Of course the only definitive record of that at this point
would be the akashic records.  But likely you'd find some interesting 
instances if you could access it.  Evidently the only Hindu "Saint"
allowed is MMY.  Can't have any competition there.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
>
> MUM Review:
>
> Seminar Offered on Experiences of Saints
>
> A unique six-session seminar, titled "In Their Own Words: Experiences
of
> the
> Saints of Christianity, Judaism and Islam," is currently being offered
> to
> the community.
>
> Taught by Evan Finkelstein, the seminar is highlighting the divine
> experiences of great saints from these three traditions in the light
of
> Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness.
>
> The sessions are being held on six consecutive Wednesday evenings,
> starting
> on September 9. All sessions begin at 8:00 p.m., in Dalby Hall of the
> Argiro
> Student Center. Those who missed the first session may still enroll in
> the
> seminar.
>
> The cost for six sessions is $60 with a 10% discount for Invincible
> America
> Course Participants; the fee for full-time students, faculty, and
staff
> is
> $10.
>
> Quotes from Maharishi and many writings of Christian, Jewish and
Muslim
> saints are being discussed and explored; there will also be a
PowerPoint
> presentation and time for comments and questions.
>
> An example of the quotations is this by Abd Al-Karim Jili: "It is the
> Holy
> Spirit which witnesses to man's innate perfection, the Spirit is man's
> real
> nature and within him is the secret shrine of the Divine"
>

[FairfieldLife] Don't forget "Talk Like A Pirate Day" tomorrow!

[TurquoiseB]

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

I already have my eyepatch, so I plan to wear it
and watch a few pirated videos in celebration. I
may even rent a parrot and walk around town with
it perched on my shoulder, but only if it has been
trained to say stuff like, "Avast ye hearties!" 
and "Arr!" (From the URL above: "This one is often 
confused with 'Arrrgh,' which is of course the sound 
you make when you sit on a belaying pin. 'Arrr!' can 
mean, variously, 'Yes,' 'I agree,' 'I'm happy,' 'I'm 
enjoying this beer,' 'My team is going to win it all,' 
'I saw that television show, it sucked!' and 'That 
was a clever remark you or I just made.' And those 
are just a few of the myriad possibilities of Arrr!")

As for the eyepatch, here's a bit of trivia from
Wikipedia that shows that there is a logical and
physiological reason for wearing them, other than
having had one of your eyes gouged out by Captain
Jack Sparrow:

"Sailors (stereotyped by the eye-patch-wearing pirate) 
who often went above and below deck, used eye patches 
to have one eye adjusted for the top deck and the other 
eye already adjusted for the darkness when suddenly 
going below deck. The strong sunlight while above deck 
on an oceangoing vessel could require minutes of 
adjustment to the dim lighting below deck. With 
virtually no light sources below deck, sailors would 
have to rely heavily upon their eyes to adjust. In the 
critical moments of modifying the rigging, navigating, 
and especially during battle, those minutes were too 
precious. A simple switch of the patch from one eye to 
the other saved time and was more convenient than being 
temporarily blinded when going between decks."

Arrr. And possibly Arrrgh, depending on what you're
sitting on.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] UN says Israel should face war-crimes trial over Gaza

[do.rflex]

UN says Israel should face war-crimes trial over Gaza
Report also censures Hamas but accuses Israelis of punishing entire
population of the Palestinian Strip

By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem


Wednesday, 16 September 2009
  [A Palestinian woman next to her home destroyed during Israeli strikes
in Jabalia refugee camp in the Gaza Strip in January]
 AFP/GETTY
IMAGES - A Palestinian woman next to her home destroyed during Israeli
strikes in Jabalia refugee camp in the Gaza Strip in January




Israel targeted "the people of Gaza as a whole" in the three-week
militaryoperation which is estimated to have killed more than 1,300
Palestinians atthe beginning of this year, according to a
UN-commissioned report publishedyesterday.

A UN fact-finding mission led by the Jewish South African former Supreme
CourtJudge Richard Goldstone said Israel should face prosecution by
theInternational Criminal Court, unless it opened fully independent
investigations of what the report said were repeated violations of   
international law, "possible war crimes and crimes against humanity"
duringthe operation.

Using by far the strongest language of any of the numerous reports
criticisingOperation Cast Lead, the UN mission, which interviewed
victims, witnessesand others in Gaza and Geneva this summer, says
that while Israel hadportrayed the war as self-defence in response
to Hamas rocket attacks, it"considers the plan to have been
directed, at least in part, at a differenttarget: the people of Gaza
as a whole".

"In this respect the operations were in furtherance of an overall policy
aimedat punishing the Gaza population for its resilience and for its
apparentsupport for Hamas, and possibly with the intent of forcing a
change in suchsupport," the report said. It added that some Israelis
should carry"individual criminal responsibility."

The 575-page document presented to yesterday's session of the UN Human
RightsCouncil in Geneva was swiftly denounced by Israel. The foreign
ministryspokesman Yigal Palmor said the UN mission had "dealt a huge
blow togovernments seeking to defend their citizens from terror",
and that itsconclusions were "so disconnected with realities on the
ground that onecannot but wonder on which planet was the Gaza Strip
they visited".

The Gaza war began on 27 December 2008 and ended on 18 January 2009.

The UN report found that the statements of military and political
leaders inIsrael before and during the operation indicated the use
of"disproportionate force", aimed not only at the enemy but also at
the"supporting infrastructure". The mission adds: "In practice this
appears tohave meant the civilian population."

The mission also had harsh conclusions about Hamas and other armed
groups,acknowledging that rocket and mortar attacks have caused
terror in southernIsrael, and saying that where launched into
civilians areas, they would"constitute war crimes" and "may amount
to crimes against humanity".

It also condemned the extrajudicial killings, detention and
ill-treatment ofPalestinian detainees by the Hamas regime in Gaza -
as well as by thePalestinian Authority in the West Bank - and called
for the release onhumanitarian grounds of Gilad Shalit, the Israeli
corporal abducted by Gazamilitants in June 2006.

While the Israeli government refused to co-operate with the inquiry - or
allowthe UN team into Israel - on the ground that the team would be
"one-sided",Cpl Shalit's father, Noam, was among those Israeli
citizens who flew toGeneva to give evidence.

That said, the much greater part of the report - and its strongest
language -is reserved for Israel's conduct during the operation.
Apart from theunprecedented death toll, the report says that "the
destruction of foodsupply installations, water sanitation systems,
concrete factories andresidential houses was the result of a
systematic policy by the Israeliarmed forces". The purpose was "to
make the daily process of living anddignified living more difficult
for the civilian population".

The report also says that vandalism of houses by some soldiers and "the
graffiti on the walls, the obscenities and often racist slogans
constitutedan overall image of humiliation and dehumanisation of the
Palestinianpopulation". Hospitals and ambulances were "targeted by
Israeli attacks."

Amid a detailed examination of most of the major incidents of the war -
albeitan examinations carried out five months after the incidents
took place - itsays that:

* The first bombing attack on Day One of the operation when children
weregoing home from school "appears to have been calculated to cause
thegreatest disruption and widespread panic".

* The deaths of 22 members of the S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't forget "Talk Like A Pirate Day" tomorrow!

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
>
> I already have my eyepatch, so I plan to wear it
> and watch a few pirated videos in celebration. I
> may even rent a parrot and walk around town with
> it perched on my shoulder, but only if it has been
> trained to say stuff like, "Avast ye hearties!"
> and "Arr!"

Don't forget to wear the proper shirt!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> I see this whole compulsion of Maharishi's to 
> "reinterpret" the world's religions and "recast"
> them in terms of TM as an extension of Hinduism
> and its original co-opting of the Buddha. Same
> thing exactly...if you can find some way to claim
> that the original competing tradition was "really"
> teaching the same thing that the TMO teaches, but
> in a "lesser," less-fully-understood way, you
> simultaneously 1) put that other tradition down,
> and 2) co-opt it to some extent so that your own
> students won't be tempted to check it out and thus
> "stray from the highest path." And, in so doing,
> take their money somewhere else (or keep it, 
> because many of these other traditions teach for
> free). 
> 

yeah, corrupted in ego of packaging and marketing; said strictly as that is 
said, u r wrongish otherwise. 
More Largely is Just that Science is repeatable in nature.  There is justice in 
that. 

Really it is all Patanjali. All renders down on Patanjali.  buddhistic, 
hinduistic, gnostic mystical x-ian, judeoistic, proly somewhere in mohammadism. 
 Patanjali just happens to more clearly say it in writing.  Is all one when it 
works.

!Jai Patanjali!

-D in FF

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jimmy Carter, Jews, and calling others "racist"

[WillyTex]

Shemp McGurk wrote:
> Jimmy Carter, Jews, and calling others "racist"
> 
Oh, I get it - the anti-Semite calls the politician 
who called the President a liar, a racist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jimmy Carter, Jews, and calling others "racist"

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
> > "...When former President Jimmy Carter revealed that Israel has more than 
> > 150 nuclear weapons, 
> 
> **
> 
> Regardless of Carter's motives, revealing Israel's massive arsenal, nearly 
> equal to China's ( 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons ) is exactly 
> what Israel wants: an explicit and credible statement about the extreme 
> retaliatory and deterrent power of Israel, which Israel could not state 
> itself without creating problems in its relationships, especially with the 
> United States with its laws against supporting nuclear proliferation (a 
> stance which is pretty much out the door after India and Pakistan).
> 
> However, this is really a fool's game. Just as the U.S., after WWII, thought 
> it was on top of the world due to its nuclear monopoly until the Russians and 
> other burst that bubble, Israel's ability to threaten the Arab/Muslim world 
> is only going to last a few more years until oil-rich states finance a much 
> larger arsenal and no amount of diplomatic or military pressure is going to 
> stop that.
>


Gosh, I didn't realize that Israel "threatens" the Arab/Muslim world with 
nuclear anihilation.  I've been aware of Israel voicing its determination to 
defend itself but I didn't know that it threatens other sovereign states.

When did this occur, Bob?  Specifics, please.

I can, of course, cite you instances of the Muslim world threatening Israel 
with anhiliation.  Why just today, the President of Iran did just that.

[FairfieldLife] Right wing media revelation of the day

[do.rflex]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Don't forget "Talk Like A Pirate Day" tomorrow!

[Vaj]

On Sep 18, 2009, at 8:06 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Arrr. And possibly Arrrgh, depending on what you'resitting on. :-)Don't forget your pirate encyclopedia:

[FairfieldLife] Great live Bruce Cockburn concert + new reincarnation/karma song

[TurquoiseB]

For those whom Vaj and I have been able to infect with
our love for Bruce Cockburn, or for those who are liberal
and Bruce-curious, here's a lovely online (streaming) 
concert recorded by CBC Radio 2. It's playable in its
entirety (and makes lovely background music for work as
such), but also playable cut by cut. It's solo, just 
Bruce and his guitar, and arguably better than the 
recent Slice O'Life album. 

http://www.cbc.ca/radio2/cod/concerts/20090421bruce

P.S. For Bruce fans, "The City Is Hungry" is new, and 
only available elsewhere on the aforementioned Slice
O'Life album. "Call Me Rose" is available nowhere else.
To whet your interest, it's a song about karma. Richard
Nixon reincarnates as a girl living in the projects:

My name was Richard Nixon only now I'm a girl
You wouldn't know it but I used to be the king of the world
I'm back here learning what it is to be bored
To have no power but the strength to endure
I'll perform my penance well
Maybe the memoir will sell
It's not what I would've chose
Now you have to call me Rose

Track Listing:
1   [applause]
2   World Of Wonders
3   Last Night Of The World
4   See You Tomorrow
5   Night Train
6   Lovers In A Dangerous Time
7   The City Is Hungry
8   Jerusalem Poker
9   Beautiful Creatures
10  How I Spent My Fall Vacation
11  Wait No More
12  Elegy
13  Bone In My Ear
14  Call Me Rose
15  Kit Carson
16  Put It In Your Heart
17  If A Tree Falls
18  Mystery
19  Wondering Where The Lions Are
20  Mama Just Wants To Barrelhouse All Night Long
21  Anything Can Happen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jimmy Carter, Jews, and calling others "racist"

[Bhairitu]

ShempMcGurk wrote:
> Gosh, I didn't realize that Israel "threatens" the Arab/Muslim world with 
> nuclear anihilation.  I've been aware of Israel voicing its determination to 
> defend itself but I didn't know that it threatens other sovereign states.
>
> When did this occur, Bob?  Specifics, please.
>
> I can, of course, cite you instances of the Muslim world threatening Israel 
> with anhiliation.  Why just today, the President of Iran did just that.

Israel sort of set up shop in a bad neighborhood, didn't they Shemp?  If 
you bought a house in a crack neighborhood in Oakland I don't think you 
would have much luck demanding that the Oakland police give you extra 
special protection.  Likewise Israel shouldn't be expecting the US to 
provide any extra special protection either.

[FairfieldLife] New Book: 'American Guru: Former Students Of Andrew Cohen Speak Out'

[Rick Archer]

AMERICAN GURU: 
A STORY OF LOVE, BETRAYAL AND HEALING -
FORMER STUDENTS OF ANDREW COHEN SPEAK OUT

http://americanguru.net/

American Guru is a multifaceted account of life in the contemporary
spiritual community known as EnlightenNext, and the controversial ³teaching
methods² of its New York-born founder, self-proclaimed ³guru² Andrew Cohen.
With contributions from several of Cohen¹s former students, William Yenner
recalls the thirteen-year trajectory of his career as a leader and manager
in Cohen¹s community -- his early days as an idealistic ³seeker,² his years
of service on EnlightenNext¹s Board of Directors, his ultimate
disillusionment and departure, and his efforts to make sense of his
experiences as a once-devoted follower of a ³Teacher of Evolutionary
Enlightenment.² With wit and insight, Yenner and his colleagues have
produced a riveting cautionary tale on the dangers of authoritarian
spirituality, and an insider¹s case study on the promises and pitfalls of
postmodern discipleship.

Yenner¹s book is a depiction of abuse of power as it continues to play out
in the lives of real people, the students of spiritual teacher Andrew Cohen,
at Cohen¹s 220-acre Foxhollow ashram in western Massachusetts. A look behind
the scenes at ³EnlightenNext,² a global nonprofit devoted to ³the evolution
of consciousness and culture,² American Guru reveals what happens when
hundreds of contemporary idealists devote their lives to the teachings of a
charismatic leader who demands the unconditional surrender of their ³egos.²

William Yenner and his fellow contributors, all former members of Cohen¹s
³EnlightenNext² community, describe their initial meetings with Cohen and
their varied responses, over the twenty years that followed, to his promise
to lead them to enlightenment. It was a journey that began in love and
beauty, during which deep friendships were forged and profound spiritual
meaning was discovered by many. Energized and fulfilled by their
participation in Cohen¹s projects, they derived purpose, satisfaction and
hope from their years of discipleship, until darkness clouded the light that
had illuminated the early years of their association with this powerful
teacher. Gradually, their abandonment of the familiar for the guidance of a
charismatic guru came to feel less like a life freely chosen than forced
enlistment in the service of an individual bent on total control.

How did it all go wrong? What are the lessons to be learned? What comes next
for the many seekers, on a wide variety of contemporary spiritual paths, who
become disillusioned with iconoclastic authority figures who have opened
their minds and hearts to previously unimagined possibilities? And how can
an understanding of the authoritarian dynamic inoculate others against abuse
at the hands of such powerfully charismatic individuals?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[yifuxero]

---I've read the bios of numerous Roman Catholic Saints and can't find much, if 
anything, close to Patanjali (except in a very few, say Saints Theresa of Avila 
and St. John of the Cross).  However, those 2 Saints were among the most famous 
of the actual levitators (seen on many occasion hovering in the air for long 
periods of time in an apparent state of Ecstasy. Haven't seen that yet among 
the TMO people. Could they be missing some steps from Patanjaji, or perhaps 
some other ingredient?

  Here are some statements from a compiled source for the letters of Saint 
Padre Pio: [nope!...no Patanjali here].

Even when wracked physically, mentally, and spiritually by Satan, sometimes on 
a daily basis, he avoided blaming God. In fact, he praised and thanked God for 
delivering him from the powers of the devil. This faith in the Father's 
protection is one of the most powerful--and sometimes most colourful--parts of 
the book: 

"Bluebeard [Satan] follows, with divine permission, to wage war against me; but 
God is with me." And more explicit: "I complained to my Guardian Angel about 
this, who, after having preached a nice little homily to me, added, 'Give 
thanks to Jesus, that he treats you as one chosen to follow him closely up the 
steep slope of Calvary.'" 

Perhaps most strongly is the Saint's articulation of his suffering for God. He 
believed that Jesus was close to those who suffer, and so he too wanted 
tribulation, writing without bitterness that "my life is becoming a cruel 
martyrdom." He saw his trials through Christ's agony, which, the Saint 
believed, continued up to the present day because of the grievous sins of 
humans. Saint Pio shared in this pain. Yet for this, he felt only gratitude 
towards Jesus. 

This sense of human sin and the harm that it does to the soul and to one's 
relationship with God is a constant theme in Saint Pio's letters. 

The Saint was so readily capable of sharing in Christ's anguish because of his 
great, unfailing hope that God would come to his aid: "Do you not see that I 
have no more strength to fight, that all my vigour is gone? ... Oh my God, you 
who know the extreme bitterness of my spirit, do not delay in coming to my aid. 
You alone can and must draw me out of this prison of death." These innocent, 
charming, and poetic selections testify to the way that God so deeply touched 
Saint Padre Pio. 








 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I see this whole compulsion of Maharishi's to 
> > "reinterpret" the world's religions and "recast"
> > them in terms of TM as an extension of Hinduism
> > and its original co-opting of the Buddha. Same
> > thing exactly...if you can find some way to claim
> > that the original competing tradition was "really"
> > teaching the same thing that the TMO teaches, but
> > in a "lesser," less-fully-understood way, you
> > simultaneously 1) put that other tradition down,
> > and 2) co-opt it to some extent so that your own
> > students won't be tempted to check it out and thus
> > "stray from the highest path." And, in so doing,
> > take their money somewhere else (or keep it, 
> > because many of these other traditions teach for
> > free). 
> > 
> 
> yeah, corrupted in ego of packaging and marketing; said strictly as that is 
> said, u r wrongish otherwise. 
> More Largely is Just that Science is repeatable in nature.  There is justice 
> in that. 
> 
> Really it is all Patanjali. All renders down on Patanjali.  buddhistic, 
> hinduistic, gnostic mystical x-ian, judeoistic, proly somewhere in 
> mohammadism.  Patanjali just happens to more clearly say it in writing.  Is 
> all one when it works.
> 
> !Jai Patanjali!
> 
> -D in FF
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Saints course at MUM

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of bob_brigante
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saints course at MUM
 
  

MUM Review:

Seminar Offered on Experiences of Saints

A unique six-session seminar, titled "In Their Own Words: Experiences of
the
Saints of Christianity, Judaism and Islam," is currently being offered
to
the community.

Taught by Evan Finkelstein, the seminar is highlighting the divine
experiences of great saints from these three traditions in the light of
Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness.

The sessions are being held on six consecutive Wednesday evenings,
Sounds like they decided to go head-to-head with our Wednesday Night
Satsangs. (which are free)
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[Vaj]

On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:23 PM, yifuxero wrote:

Could they be missing some steps from Patanjaji, or perhaps some  
other ingredient?



They are actually missing quite a lot. They're missing authentic  
instruction in meditation, compared to the Patanjali tradition.  
They're also missing the fact that each of the sutras for siddhis  
have oral instructions which go along with them. The sutras are just  
brief notes to jog the memory. Some, like levitation, include several  
sutras and instructions for not only mastering a certain form of  
prana, but for raising that prana into the skull. This is very  
dangerous, in that this is the same prana that yogis say lies behind  
the manifestation of thought or thinking processes. If you 'get it  
wrong', you can go insane.


As one teacher said 'it's a sharp path'.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:47 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 ]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:27 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "dhamiltony2k5"
>  wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are these people skulking out of town? 
> > > 
> > > Shirking.
> > 
> > Well, writing here now as a conservative meditator. Somebody here simply
> to share those inner unspoken thots here for the real meditators here.
I'll
> do it for the moment.
> > 
> > Yes, is a skulking and shirking. The shirking about here is enough to
make
> a patriot meditator here who does remain with the work lose their seeming
> equanimity over it. 
> > 
> > These people, these quitters who have slipped off had the wisdom of the
> integration of life in their hands and they just threw it away. Yes, their
> names are not important anymore because their names will be forgotten as
> soon as they have left. 
> > 
> > They are the worst of meditators; ill-disciplined spiritual quitters.
> Don't got the character to make it the whole way over the spiritual path.
In
> a same category as ordinary non-meditators. Worst. & we do know what
science
> has to say about non-meditators now. But, in time of need these quitters
are
> the worst of deserters. & you know of what they would do with deserters?
So
> it is. 
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > -Doug in FF
> 
> Amen.
> 
> Weak souls, most attracked to TM for small and personal issues; not
altruism
> or wishing for spiritual growth. 
> An easy prey for the so-called "saints" invading Fairfield thus becoming
> confused and leaving FF.
>
> Actually, since Doug posted this, I've found out who he was 
> referring to. At least two of the couples. One is an early
> member of the TM movement and her husband, both still
> meditating. They're just following an employment opportunity
> and wouldn't be leaving FF if they had a choice. Another
> couple decided to maintain their home here while the husband
> gets an apartment near his new job three hours away and comes
> home on weekends. Nabby, are you ever even vaguely aware of
> your judgmental, holier-than-thou attitude, and do you
> realize that your example probably does the TM movement more
> harm than good?

Nabby's just echoing what Doug said at considerably
greater length and with even greater viciousness.

How come you're chastising Nabby but not Doug?
I haven't spoken with Doug lately, but I've known him for decades, and he's
a very liberal, easygoing, open-minded, non-judgmental, eclectic guy, as is
his wife (except that she's not a guy). I'm not entirely sure why he posts
things like this, but i think he's doing a Steven Colbert, goofing one
everyone by trying to act like a fundie meditator, while in actuality he's
quite the opposite.
 

[FairfieldLife] Scientists find lifesaver for India – rice that doesn't have to be cooked

[do.rflex]

Scientists find lifesaver for India – rice that doesn't have to be
cooked
By Andrew Buncombe in Delhi


Thursday, 17 September 2009
   [The new strain of rice offers
hope for malnourished children in India] 
 The new strain of rice offers hope for malnourished children in
India


It sounds too good to be true. But if Indian scientists are correct,
hundreds of millions of people across the subcontinent could benefit
from a specially-developed strain of rice that "cooks" simply by being
soaked in water.

Experts at the Central Rice Research Institute (CRRI) in Orissa who have
developed the grain were inspired by so-called soft rice, or komal saul,
that grows in the north-east Indian state of Assam. Traditional recipes
call for such rice to be soaked overnight in water, then eaten with
mustard oil and onions.

Until now, these low-yielding grains have not grown outside the
north-east, but the scientists at CRRI have managed to develop a hybrid
of a traditional soft rice with a high-yielding variety of regular rice.
The result has been called Aghunibora.

The institute's director, Dr TP Adhya, said field trials of the new
hybrid were already positive, suggesting that it could be grown in
different climates across India. "This is the first time soft rice has
been grown anywhere else," he said. "We are testing it now and it is
growing here in Orissa where the humidity is very high and the
temperature range is higher than in Assam."

The aim, he said, was to produce a grain that would allow people across
the country to prepare the rice "simply by putting it in water". In a
country where malnutrition remains rampant, the grains could prove a
crucial weapon against hunger. For all of the advances made by India's
economy since the liberalisation of the early 1990s, the country has a
third of the world's malnourished children.

A report by the UK-based Institute of Development Studies said that
while India's GDP per capita grew by an average of 4 per cent between
1980 and 2005, the percentage of underweight children under three fell
from just 52 to 46 over the same period.

"Normally, we expect economic growth and improved nutrition to go
hand-in-hand but at the current rate India will not reach the Millennium
Development Goal – to reduce the number of people suffering from
hunger by 50 per cent by 2015– until 2043," the report said. "By
failing to reach this target, the Indian government is condemning a
further generation to the brain damage, poorer education and early death
that result from malnutrition."

http://snipurl.com/ryvvh   [www_independent_co_uk]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[Vaj]

On Sep 18, 2009, at 3:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


I see this whole compulsion of Maharishi's to
"reinterpret" the world's religions and "recast"
them in terms of TM as an extension of Hinduism
and its original co-opting of the Buddha. Same
thing exactly...if you can find some way to claim
that the original competing tradition was "really"
teaching the same thing that the TMO teaches, but
in a "lesser," less-fully-understood way, you
simultaneously 1) put that other tradition down,
and 2) co-opt it to some extent so that your own
students won't be tempted to check it out and thus
"stray from the highest path." And, in so doing,
take their money somewhere else (or keep it,
because many of these other traditions teach for
free).



I can almost guarantee you what is meant by interpreting them "in the  
light of Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness" is  
that they're going to squeeze other people's realizations into the TC- 
CC-GC-UC model. The fact is, most hardcore TMers actually believe  
this is "true" as if it was somehow "universal", like some  
perennialist's dream. Actually, all they've really done they've just  
trapped themselves inside a pretty-looking cage.


Sounds like the Wednesday Night SS!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:44 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM
 
  
 
On Sep 18, 2009, at 3:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:



I see this whole compulsion of Maharishi's to 
"reinterpret" the world's religions and "recast"
them in terms of TM as an extension of Hinduism
and its original co-opting of the Buddha. Same
thing exactly...if you can find some way to claim
that the original competing tradition was "really"
teaching the same thing that the TMO teaches, but
in a "lesser," less-fully-understood way, you
simultaneously 1) put that other tradition down,
and 2) co-opt it to some extent so that your own
students won't be tempted to check it out and thus
"stray from the highest path." And, in so doing,
take their money somewhere else (or keep it, 
because many of these other traditions teach for
free). 



 
I can almost guarantee you what is meant by interpreting them "in the light
of Maharishi's teachings on higher states of consciousness" is that they're
going to squeeze other people's realizations into the TC-CC-GC-UC model. The
fact is, most hardcore TMers actually believe this is "true" as if it was
somehow "universal", like some perennialist's dream. Actually, all they've
really done they've just trapped themselves inside a pretty-looking cage.
 
Sounds like the Wednesday Night SS!
 
Which you're qualified to judge based on your extensive experience of it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[Vaj]

On Sep 18, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

I can almost guarantee you what is meant by interpreting them "in  
the light of Maharishi's teachings on higher states of  
consciousness" is that they're going to squeeze other people's  
realizations into the TC-CC-GC-UC model. The fact is, most hardcore  
TMers actually believe this is "true" as if it was somehow  
"universal", like some perennialist's dream. Actually, all they've  
really done they've just trapped themselves inside a pretty-looking  
cage.




Sounds like the Wednesday Night SS!



Which you're qualified to judge based on your extensive experience  
of it?


Just an observation after observing and then listening to the mailing  
list for what, a year or two or so? Once one's been around one does  
get some perspective on things, and honestly I saw/see no difference  
between the FF SS and other SS's I'd visited before the FF flavor. It  
is the same patterns. And so you learn to recognize different  
patterns of suffering and their simulacrums. And you also share with  
others and get another perspective.


That's why I said "sounds like".

[FairfieldLife] Tourists "Arrested" in Kalona

[It's just a ride]

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/59690142.html


The early bird may catch the worm but the second rat gets the cheese.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[yifuxero]

---right, but you seem to be saying that since the TC...etc. model isn't 
"really" universal; it never happens.  But nobody knows for sure,...we 
certainly can't rely on the MUM statistics.
It might happen, now and then.  JJ seemed to describe the complete transition, 
having claimed to be in CC at one time, then later giving lectures on GC and UC 
speaking from what appeared to be first hand experience.
 Now if one compares this "progressive" model with various "immediate 
Enlightenment" paths; we have to first identify which Gurus/Schools are 
promoting the immediate model vs progressive.  Some of the "immediates" would 
include

1. Dzogchen in general and in particular your Guru Norbu Rinpoche
2. Various other Gurus as mentioned by Ken Wilbur including those who were 
first "immediates" such as Adi Da aka Franklin Jones - who changed his tune 
after a number of years when that approach wasn't working.
3. Ramana Maharshi - seems to have bypassed all stages at once, according to 
his own account, then entering UC on his Enlightenment day, 7-17-1896.  But 
this type of experience may be so rare as to be virtually unheard of. 
...
Some progressives
 Sri Aurobindo gives a more popular account of a progression through GC.

Sri Ramakrishna mentions "going into Samadhi"; but later mentions complete 
realization of the Self (as if he possibly spent a number of years being 
engaged in various subtle experiences).

But there's a glitch here, Vaj.  Taking the "immediate Enlightenment" school, 
just be cause a Guru tauts that approach, who's to say taht the beginning 
practitioners don't go through the TC...etc stages?
Dzogchen seems to be a conceptual model that may or may not pan out according 
to the ideal model.

For the most part, I'd say there isn't enough information to draw definitive 
conclusions yet. 


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > I can almost guarantee you what is meant by interpreting them "in  
> > the light of Maharishi's teachings on higher states of  
> > consciousness" is that they're going to squeeze other people's  
> > realizations into the TC-CC-GC-UC model. The fact is, most hardcore  
> > TMers actually believe this is "true" as if it was somehow  
> > "universal", like some perennialist's dream. Actually, all they've  
> > really done they've just trapped themselves inside a pretty-looking  
> > cage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like the Wednesday Night SS!
> >
> >
> >
> > Which you're qualified to judge based on your extensive experience  
> > of it?
> >
> Just an observation after observing and then listening to the mailing  
> list for what, a year or two or so? Once one's been around one does  
> get some perspective on things, and honestly I saw/see no difference  
> between the FF SS and other SS's I'd visited before the FF flavor. It  
> is the same patterns. And so you learn to recognize different  
> patterns of suffering and their simulacrums. And you also share with  
> others and get another perspective.
> 
> That's why I said "sounds like".
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:23 PM, yifuxero wrote:
> 
> > Could they be missing some steps from Patanjaji, or perhaps some  
> > other ingredient?
> 
> 
> They are actually missing quite a lot. They're missing authentic  
> instruction in meditation, compared to the Patanjali tradition.  
> They're also missing the fact that each of the sutras for siddhis  
> have oral instructions which go along with them. The sutras are just  
> brief notes to jog the memory. 

  ; )

[FairfieldLife] " Racism has nothing to do with it "

[do.rflex]

[FairfieldLife] BMW plugin electrodiesel: 0-60 in 4.8s

[bob_brigante]

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-neil18-2009sep18,0,820738.column

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jimmy Carter, Jews, and calling others "racist"

[bob_brigante]

> I can, of course, cite you instances of the Muslim world threatening Israel 
> with anhiliation.  Why just today, the President of Iran did just that.
>


***

"Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a lie, Israel has no future"

*Well, he's half-right...

[FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal | New York Real Estate News

[Rick Archer]

http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/peace-palace-at-70-broad-street-buil
t-by-american-bank-note-company-for-sale-for-45-million-by-global-country-of
-world-peace

[FairfieldLife] Sri Sri's panhandlers

[yifuxero]

from Jody's Guruphiliac:

Thursday, August 06, 2009
Sri Sri Rips Off A Rip-Off 

File under: Gurubusting

Bangalore is being overrun by yuppie beggars taking courses at Sri Sri Ravi 
Shankar's Art of Living ashram:
Men and women trying to camouflage their affluent breeding and chic clothes are 
going about begging in south Bangalore. People at signals were startled 
yesterday to find smart, English-speaking men and women seeking alms. The 
beggars, with grime smeared on their faces, looked like characters out of a 
college play. Motorists, shoppers, and pedestrians dropped small change into 
their hands, but continued to gape. The beggars bought food with the money they 
had earned from begging, and ate in public.

MiD DAY discovered that they were disciples of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, who runs 
the Art of Living spiritual movement from his headquarters on Kanakapura. The 
beggars, it turned out, were well-bred professionals told by their instructors 
to go "lose the ego" by begging. "Our areas are frequented by educated beggars 
from Sri Sri's ashram," said a resident of BTM Layout.
"Lose your ego by glorifying mine" is Sri Sri's credo. And don't think for a 
second that these losers get to keep the cash they panhandled.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal | New York Real Estate News

[Mike Dixon]

Geez , you should see the Peace Palaces they started a few years ago in 
Navasota Texas. They started them, got them to the point of putting up sheet 
rock and then left them sitting. No exterior siding on them. Whenever it rains 
the roof leaks and the sheet rock and insulation is already molding. Whatever 
has been spent on them so far is virtually ruined. Why do they spend hundreds 
of thousands of dollars on a project and half way through it just walk away? 
This is one of the reasons I have to keep my distance fromn the TMO. They will 
drive a person insane!

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Rick Archer  wrote:


From: Rick Archer 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal 
| New York Real Estate News
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 11:10 PM


  





http://therealdeal. com/newyork/ articles/ peace-palace- at-70-broad- 
street-built- by-american- bank-note- company-for- sale-for- 45-million- 
by-global- country-of- world-peace















  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramraj TV

[shukra69]

I have yet to ever see this site function as advertised

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.ramrajtv .com
> 
> As per Maharishi Ji’s divine wish, Ramraj TV channel is being established 
> to introduce the most beautiful life supporting Vedic principles and 
> practical programmes in the life of all Individuals and nations of our dear 
> World Family. At present the channel is available on Internet and is in 
> process of getting license from Government of India for satellite uplink and 
> downlink. Maharishi Ji has established Maharishi Vishwavyapi 
> Ramrajya-Maharishi Global Administration through Natural Law. The basis of 
> Maharishi Ramrajya is: Ramraj dukh kahu na vyapa-no one has to suffer in the 
> rule of Lord Shri Raam.
> 
> 
> Ramraj TV will present the following: - Discourses of Maharishi Ji, other 
> Saints 
>    and Vedic Scholars on various Vedic and other related life oriented 
> disciplines. 
> - Vedic chanting (Ved Paath), 
> - Maharishi Gandharva Veda Music, 
> - Semi Indian Classical Music-light music, 
> - Devotional songs (Bhajans), 
> - Devotional, classical and folk group and mono dance, 
> - Monthly, weekly and daily Jyotish predictions for all 12 Rashis, 
>   live and pre-recorded Vedic celebrations as per Vedic calendar.  
> 
> Ramraj TV - Village Chhan, Bhojpur Temple Road - Block Misrod, Bhopal, Madhya 
> Pradesh
> E-mail: ramra...@...   
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri's panhandlers

[shukra69]

its not loosing the ego its loosing any moral sense, learning to be a 
psychopath abusing the tradition of begging when you don't need the money 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> from Jody's Guruphiliac:
> 
> Thursday, August 06, 2009
> Sri Sri Rips Off A Rip-Off 
> 
> File under: Gurubusting
> 
> Bangalore is being overrun by yuppie beggars taking courses at Sri Sri Ravi 
> Shankar's Art of Living ashram:
> Men and women trying to camouflage their affluent breeding and chic clothes 
> are going about begging in south Bangalore. People at signals were startled 
> yesterday to find smart, English-speaking men and women seeking alms. The 
> beggars, with grime smeared on their faces, looked like characters out of a 
> college play. Motorists, shoppers, and pedestrians dropped small change into 
> their hands, but continued to gape. The beggars bought food with the money 
> they had earned from begging, and ate in public.
> 
> MiD DAY discovered that they were disciples of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, who runs 
> the Art of Living spiritual movement from his headquarters on Kanakapura. The 
> beggars, it turned out, were well-bred professionals told by their 
> instructors to go "lose the ego" by begging. "Our areas are frequented by 
> educated beggars from Sri Sri's ashram," said a resident of BTM Layout.
> "Lose your ego by glorifying mine" is Sri Sri's credo. And don't think for a 
> second that these losers get to keep the cash they panhandled.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri's panhandlers

[shukra69]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
>
> its not loosing the ego its loosing any moral sense, learning to be a 
> psychopath 
sorry sociopath
abusing the tradition of begging when you don't need the money 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> >
> > from Jody's Guruphiliac:
> > 
> > Thursday, August 06, 2009
> > Sri Sri Rips Off A Rip-Off 
> > 
> > File under: Gurubusting
> > 
> > Bangalore is being overrun by yuppie beggars taking courses at Sri Sri Ravi 
> > Shankar's Art of Living ashram:
> > Men and women trying to camouflage their affluent breeding and chic clothes 
> > are going about begging in south Bangalore. People at signals were startled 
> > yesterday to find smart, English-speaking men and women seeking alms. The 
> > beggars, with grime smeared on their faces, looked like characters out of a 
> > college play. Motorists, shoppers, and pedestrians dropped small change 
> > into their hands, but continued to gape. The beggars bought food with the 
> > money they had earned from begging, and ate in public.
> > 
> > MiD DAY discovered that they were disciples of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, who 
> > runs the Art of Living spiritual movement from his headquarters on 
> > Kanakapura. The beggars, it turned out, were well-bred professionals told 
> > by their instructors to go "lose the ego" by begging. "Our areas are 
> > frequented by educated beggars from Sri Sri's ashram," said a resident of 
> > BTM Layout.
> > "Lose your ego by glorifying mine" is Sri Sri's credo. And don't think for 
> > a second that these losers get to keep the cash they panhandled.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

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[FairfieldLife] 'Fox News- On Same Page as Charlie Manson?'

[Robert]

Thanks to Fox News:
Stirring Up Racist Hatred,
Joseph Goebbels, would be so proud of you, all!..

We all remember, that Charlie Manson, in his psychopathic way...
Was attempting to initiate a ‘Race War’...
We all remember how, Ronald Reagan, used Charlie,
In an attempt to use him as the ‘Mascot’ or the  ‘Counter-Culture Movement’...
We all remember how Ronald Reagan turned our country over to the 
‘Corporations’...

Now we watch, passively, how the Corporations, Fox News...
Does not care much for our country, anymore...
They care more about continuing to make money from:
Incorporated Fear/War Mongering’
~Corporate Nazi Bastards!

We must take this situation, seriously, now...
The ‘Nazi Sympathizers’ at Fox News, and the ‘Corporate/Military Take-Over’...
Of : ‘A Country, of the people, by the people, for the people...

We need to keep the ‘Corporate Psychopaths’, in some kind of check, because 
they are insane!
Insane are ones, that are attempting to do what Charlie Manson, was doing..

They are doing the work, of Charlie, while he is in Jail...

’Charlie Manson Loves Fox News’

They are attempting to create, a race war...
Out of their fear and desperation...

 They are:

'Damn Racist Nazi Bastards'...

Robert G.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[ShempMcGurk]

Why am I listed and counted twice?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
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> 14 cardemaister 
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[FairfieldLife] Scientists Isolate Barry Wright's Stench, Hope to use it as a weapon

[It's just a ride]

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/deathstench/

Next time you’re faced with a serious bug infestation, you might try
spraying your house with eau-de-death.

Scientists have discovered that insects from cockroaches to
caterpillars all emit the same stinky blend of fatty acids when they
die, and this sinister stench sends bugs of all kinds running for
their lives.

Biologist David Rollo of McMaster University in Canada made this
morbid discovery while studying the social behavior of cockroaches.
When a roach locates a great new abode (like your kitchen cupboard),
it gives off a chemical signal to attract its cockroach friends. To
determine the chemical composition of these pheromones, Rollo and his
team started crushing dead cockroaches and spreading around their body
juice.

“It was amazing to find that the cockroaches avoided places treated
with these extracts like the plague,” Rollo said in a press release.
“Naturally, we wanted to identify what chemical was making them all go
away.”

Of course, there was nothing to do but grind up more bugs. The team
found that their concoction repelled not just cockroaches, but ants,
catepillars, woodlice and pillbugs. And even though they’re
technically crustaceans rather than insects, dead woodlice and pill
bugs produced the same set of fatty acids as the other animals.

Insects and crustaceans diverged from each other 400 million years
ago, so the researchers think their death mix represents a universal,
ancient warning signal. “Recognizing and avoiding the dead could
reduce the chances of catching the disease,” Rollo said in the
release, “or allow you to get away with just enough exposure to
activate your immunity.” The researchers published their findings in
this month’s edition of Evolutionary Biology.

The scientists hope the right concoction of death smells might protect
crops against pesky invaders. For instance, a log treated with the
fatty acids repelled wood beetles in a forest for a full month.

Thankfully, human noses can’t detect the fatty acid extracts. “Not
like the rotting of corpses that occurs later and is detectable from
great distances,” Rollo wrote in an e-mail. “I’ve tried smelling
papers treated with them and don’t smell anything strong and certainly
not repellent.”




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[FairfieldLife] [Status Quo]= [Huge Income for Large Corporations]

[Robert]

‘Status Quo= Huge Income for Large Corporations’

There is a system, called ‘Self-Insurance’ for large corporations...
Where, the money that they take in, for Health Insurance...
Becomes a large floating boat of cash, every month...
While they just keep a fund, to cover possible pay-outs...
Here’s more, on why they are fighting so hard...
To keep things, exactly the same:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_insurance

R. G .





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal | New York Real Estate News

[It's just a ride]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
>
> Geez , you should see the Peace Palaces they started a few years ago in 
> Navasota Texas. They started them, got them to the point of putting up sheet 
> rock and then left them sitting. No exterior siding on them. Whenever it 
> rains the roof leaks and the sheet rock and insulation is already molding. 
> Whatever has been spent on them so far is virtually ruined. Why do they spend 
> hundreds of thousands of dollars on a project and half way through it just 
> walk away? This is one of the reasons I have to keep my distance fromn the 
> TMO. They will drive a person insane!
>

I spent many a dollar and many an hour working on that Forest Academy.
 Jane Hopson, glad she died suffering, sent a letter to 200+ people
giving each of them the opportunity to buy the crystal chandelier in
Maharishi's suite.  She used the money to buy ceiling lights for the
entire capital.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[Vaj]

On Sep 18, 2009, at 3:37 PM, yifuxero wrote:

---right, but you seem to be saying that since the TC...etc. model  
isn't "really" universal; it never happens. But nobody knows for  
sure,...we certainly can't rely on the MUM statistics.


Well that's a separate point from what I'm saying. What I'm pointing  
out is that it's common in people who've accepted the TC-CC-GC-UC  
model of awakening as real, and solidified that as the way  
consciousness evolves, whenever they look at other ways of awakening  
(in this case different saints) they project the solidified idea-- 
which is being perceived consciously or unconsciously as an "absolute"  
model--onto an often very different way of awakening.


At the same time, some awakeners who solidified their belief in the TC- 
CC-GC-UC model will reify their awakening within the acquired cage  
they've accepted as real or even absolute, often without ever  
realizing it. The dead giveaway is when you understand that MMY's  
terms do to a certain extent parallel actual yogic and Vedantic  
awakening paths that are already very well established, but he only  
describes them in part. When you realize a certain awakener is  
expressing their awakening solely within what "Maharishi said", it can  
become clear they're up against an acquired cage (without even  
"realizing" it).


It might happen, now and then. JJ seemed to describe the complete  
transition, having claimed to be in CC at one time, then later  
giving lectures on GC and UC speaking from what appeared to be first  
hand experience.
Now if one compares this "progressive" model with various "immediate  
Enlightenment" paths; we have to first identify which Gurus/Schools  
are promoting the immediate model vs progressive. Some of the  
"immediates" would include


1. Dzogchen in general and in particular your Guru Norbu Rinpoche


Relatively speaking the Dzogchen path is a sudden path, but most  
Dzogchen teachers will also teach of the other aspects of the 9  
darshanas generally practiced in that system at the same time, which  
are more gradual paths. This is helpful since there may be certain  
aspects of our on-going awakening that may be better integrated in  
other ways than a sudden one.


2. Various other Gurus as mentioned by Ken Wilbur including those  
who were first "immediates" such as Adi Da aka Franklin Jones - who  
changed his tune after a number of years when that approach wasn't  
working.


That is a very interesting case. I'm not sure what to make of Bubba.  
Not my cuppa tea, although I enjoyed some of what he said and some of  
his scene.


3. Ramana Maharshi - seems to have bypassed all stages at once,  
according to his own account, then entering UC on his Enlightenment  
day, 7-17-1896. But this type of experience may be so rare as to be  
virtually unheard of.


That's not my understanding, but then I'm no expert on Ramana. It was  
my understanding he had achieved considerable yogic mastery prior--as  
had other later advaitins like Nisargadatta, who was a Nath.


Ramana, per what I recall, would often go into samadhi for days and  
days at a time--but not progressing completely, until some friend told  
him to focus on the makara, the upper "third eye".



...
Some progressives
Sri Aurobindo gives a more popular account of a progression through  
GC.


Sri Ramakrishna mentions "going into Samadhi"; but later mentions  
complete realization of the Self (as if he possibly spent a number  
of years being engaged in various subtle experiences).


But there's a glitch here, Vaj. Taking the "immediate Enlightenment"  
school, just be cause a Guru tauts that approach, who's to say taht  
the beginning practitioners don't go through the TC...etc stages?
Dzogchen seems to be a conceptual model that may or may not pan out  
according to the ideal model.


All I'm saying is it's foolish IMO to attach absolute, universal or  
perennial qualities to any sequence of awakening and solidify it as  
real and then try to project that onto other awakenings in very  
different schools. It's really a rather self-centered way-of-seeing IMO.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> Why am I listed and counted twice?
 
Because the post count script treats the capital letters as a different 
spelling. Stick to one spelling and that won't happen. 

> > 27 shempmcgurk 
> >  8 ShempMcGurk 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal | New York Real Estate

[Robert G.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/peace-palace-at-70-broad-street-buil
> t-by-american-bank-note-company-for-sale-for-45-million-by-global-country-of
> -world-peace
>
45 Mil? 
What a bargain!
Just a little pocket change, from the till...

~The Pope
Vatican, Rome, Italy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri's panhandlers

[Robert G.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
>
> its not loosing the ego its loosing any moral sense, learning to be a 
> psychopath abusing the tradition of begging when you don't need the money 
> 
(snip)
Can you imagine the reactions, if someone led a big course in Iowa, and sent 
people begging in 'Downtown Fairfield'...
I'm not too sure, how  the 'Towns Folk'...would react to this...
But, then again, who knows...

Robert.

[FairfieldLife] 'Who is it, That seeks...War?...'

[Robert]

The Israelis, do not want war...the people in Israel, do not want war...

The Iranians, do not want war...the people, in Iran, do not want war...

The Americans, in general, do not want war...with each other...like in a 'Civil 
War'...

The 'People of America' do not want torture, war and violence...do they? do you?

So, who does want war...

What's in it for them...what is the 'Rationalization for Murder'...

Who wants war, and:
 What is it good for?

Robert.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[yifuxero]

--OK, sounds reasonable enough; but no more a cage than Norbu Rinpoche's except 
that he's obviously closer to being what/whom Carlos Casteneda called an 
"impeccable person". I wouldn't use that expression as a description of MMY; 
but even some of the "Rinpoches" are rumored to have certain faults.
 Just my opinion,but since no single Guru seems to have a one-stop shop for 
all the goodies, I prefer the Smorgasboard approach: techiques + doses of 
religion from Buddhism, Hinduism, and Christianity along with Santeria.
 I use the Santeria (Spaniard term for a Spirit-oriented religion of West 
Africa which became Syncretized and evolved into Voodoo, Macumba, etc.) quite a 
bit a work to put hexes on people. Works quite well but takes a lot of effort.  
"no pain, no gain",...but animal sacrifices are out of the question.
 Speaking of animals, that Yale lab suspect who may have killed Annie Le, the 
initial rumor was that he was displeased over her treatment of the laboratory 
rats.



 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 3:37 PM, yifuxero wrote:
> 
> > ---right, but you seem to be saying that since the TC...etc. model  
> > isn't "really" universal; it never happens. But nobody knows for  
> > sure,...we certainly can't rely on the MUM statistics.
> 
> Well that's a separate point from what I'm saying. What I'm pointing  
> out is that it's common in people who've accepted the TC-CC-GC-UC  
> model of awakening as real, and solidified that as the way  
> consciousness evolves, whenever they look at other ways of awakening  
> (in this case different saints) they project the solidified idea-- 
> which is being perceived consciously or unconsciously as an "absolute"  
> model--onto an often very different way of awakening.
> 
> At the same time, some awakeners who solidified their belief in the TC- 
> CC-GC-UC model will reify their awakening within the acquired cage  
> they've accepted as real or even absolute, often without ever  
> realizing it. The dead giveaway is when you understand that MMY's  
> terms do to a certain extent parallel actual yogic and Vedantic  
> awakening paths that are already very well established, but he only  
> describes them in part. When you realize a certain awakener is  
> expressing their awakening solely within what "Maharishi said", it can  
> become clear they're up against an acquired cage (without even  
> "realizing" it).
> 
> > It might happen, now and then. JJ seemed to describe the complete  
> > transition, having claimed to be in CC at one time, then later  
> > giving lectures on GC and UC speaking from what appeared to be first  
> > hand experience.
> > Now if one compares this "progressive" model with various "immediate  
> > Enlightenment" paths; we have to first identify which Gurus/Schools  
> > are promoting the immediate model vs progressive. Some of the  
> > "immediates" would include
> >
> > 1. Dzogchen in general and in particular your Guru Norbu Rinpoche
> 
> Relatively speaking the Dzogchen path is a sudden path, but most  
> Dzogchen teachers will also teach of the other aspects of the 9  
> darshanas generally practiced in that system at the same time, which  
> are more gradual paths. This is helpful since there may be certain  
> aspects of our on-going awakening that may be better integrated in  
> other ways than a sudden one.
> 
> > 2. Various other Gurus as mentioned by Ken Wilbur including those  
> > who were first "immediates" such as Adi Da aka Franklin Jones - who  
> > changed his tune after a number of years when that approach wasn't  
> > working.
> 
> That is a very interesting case. I'm not sure what to make of Bubba.  
> Not my cuppa tea, although I enjoyed some of what he said and some of  
> his scene.
> 
> > 3. Ramana Maharshi - seems to have bypassed all stages at once,  
> > according to his own account, then entering UC on his Enlightenment  
> > day, 7-17-1896. But this type of experience may be so rare as to be  
> > virtually unheard of.
> 
> That's not my understanding, but then I'm no expert on Ramana. It was  
> my understanding he had achieved considerable yogic mastery prior--as  
> had other later advaitins like Nisargadatta, who was a Nath.
> 
> Ramana, per what I recall, would often go into samadhi for days and  
> days at a time--but not progressing completely, until some friend told  
> him to focus on the makara, the upper "third eye".
> 
> > ...
> > Some progressives
> > Sri Aurobindo gives a more popular account of a progression through  
> > GC.
> >
> > Sri Ramakrishna mentions "going into Samadhi"; but later mentions  
> > complete realization of the Self (as if he possibly spent a number  
> > of years being engaged in various subtle experiences).
> >
> > But there's a glitch here, Vaj. Taking the "immediate Enlightenment"  
> > school, just be cause a Guru tauts that approach, who's to say taht  
> > the beginning practitioners don't go through the TC...etc stage

RE: [FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The Real Deal | New York Real Estate Ne

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of It's just a ride
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:13 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Peace Palace for sale for $45 million | The
Real Deal | New York Real Estate News
 
  
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>
> Geez , you should see the Peace Palaces they started a few years ago in
Navasota Texas. They started them, got them to the point of putting up sheet
rock and then left them sitting. No exterior siding on them. Whenever it
rains the roof leaks and the sheet rock and insulation is already molding.
Whatever has been spent on them so far is virtually ruined. Why do they
spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a project and half way through it
just walk away? This is one of the reasons I have to keep my distance fromn
the TMO. They will drive a person insane!
>

I spent many a dollar and many an hour working on that Forest Academy.
Jane Hopson, glad she died suffering, sent a letter to 200+ people
giving each of them the opportunity to buy the crystal chandelier in
Maharishi's suite. She used the money to buy ceiling lights for the
entire capital.
Sounds like the tactic from The Producers.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints course at MUM

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

> All I'm saying is it's foolish IMO to attach absolute,
> universal or perennial qualities to any sequence of
> awakening and solidify it as real and then try to
> project that onto other awakenings in very different
> schools. It's really a rather self-centered way-of-
> seeing IMO.

It seems that some here have fantasized exactly what
is to be taught in this course in significantly greater
detail than is found or implied in the announcement.

Here's the description from the announcement:

"Taught by Evan Finkelstein, the seminar is highlighting
the divine experiences of great saints from these three
traditions in the light of Maharishi's teachings on higher
states of consciousness."

One example is given of the quotations to be discussed:

"It is the Holy Spirit which witnesses to man's innate
perfection, the Spirit is man's real nature and within
him is the secret shrine of the Divine."

Of course, it's necessary for Vaj and Barry et al. to be
able to bad-mouth the course before it's even been given,
but the description in the announcement is really much
too sketchy to justify their criticisms. Not that this
will stop them...

[FairfieldLife] 'Annable Lee by Edgar Allen Poe' (coo~coo~a~choo!)

[Robert]

 Annable Lee by Edgar Allen Poe
 
It was many and many a year ago,
In a kingdom by the sea,
That a maiden there lived whom you may know
By the name of ANNABEL LEE;
And this maiden she lived with no other thought
Than to love and be loved by me.

I was a child and she was a child,
In this kingdom by the sea;
But we loved with a love that was more than love-
I and my Annabel Lee;
With a love that the winged seraphs of heaven
Coveted her and me.

And this was the reason that, long ago,
In this kingdom by the sea,
A wind blew out of a cloud, chilling
My beautiful Annabel Lee;
So that her highborn kinsman came
And bore her away from me,
To shut her up in a sepulchre
In this kingdom by the sea.

The angels, not half so happy in heaven,
Went envying her and me-
Yes!- that was the reason (as all men know,
In this kingdom by the sea)
That the wind came out of the cloud by night,
Chilling and killing my Annabel Lee.

But our love it was stronger by far than the love
Of those who were older than we-
Of many far wiser than we-
And neither the angels in heaven above,
Nor the demons down under the sea,
Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee.

For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And the stars never rise but I feel the bright eyes
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
Of my darling- my darling- my life and my bride,
In the sepulchre there by the sea,
In her tomb by the sounding sea.

(coo-coo-a-choo)


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Annable Lee by Edgar Allen Poe' (coo~coo~a~choo!)

[ShempMcGurk]

In the 2005 movie "Heights", Glenn Close plays the mother of Elizabeth Banks' 
character, Isabelle.  At one point in the movie Close recites parts of this 
poem to Banks and replaces the name Annabel with Isabell.

A really well-made movie and I recommend it highly.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
>
>  Annable Lee by Edgar Allen Poe
>  
> It was many and many a year ago,
> In a kingdom by the sea,
> That a maiden there lived whom you may know
> By the name of ANNABEL LEE;
> And this maiden she lived with no other thought
> Than to love and be loved by me.
> 
> I was a child and she was a child,
> In this kingdom by the sea;
> But we loved with a love that was more than love-
> I and my Annabel Lee;
> With a love that the winged seraphs of heaven
> Coveted her and me.
> 
> And this was the reason that, long ago,
> In this kingdom by the sea,
> A wind blew out of a cloud, chilling
> My beautiful Annabel Lee;
> So that her highborn kinsman came
> And bore her away from me,
> To shut her up in a sepulchre
> In this kingdom by the sea.
> 
> The angels, not half so happy in heaven,
> Went envying her and me-
> Yes!- that was the reason (as all men know,
> In this kingdom by the sea)
> That the wind came out of the cloud by night,
> Chilling and killing my Annabel Lee.
> 
> But our love it was stronger by far than the love
> Of those who were older than we-
> Of many far wiser than we-
> And neither the angels in heaven above,
> Nor the demons down under the sea,
> Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
> Of the beautiful Annabel Lee.
> 
> For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams
> Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
> And the stars never rise but I feel the bright eyes
> Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
> And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
> Of my darling- my darling- my life and my bride,
> In the sepulchre there by the sea,
> In her tomb by the sounding sea.
> 
> (coo-coo-a-choo)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramraj TV

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
> http://www.ramrajtv.com
> I have yet to ever see this site function as advertised
> 
> 

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For months, a screen popped up asking for a username and password, but it seems 
to be working fine now without this popup -- I just clicked on the video screen 
and some beautiful chanting with a very pacific Girishji -- very nice. Oops, 
spoke too soon, the feed quit after about two mins...restart after a couple 
more mins, must be having bandwidth problems.

[FairfieldLife] 'Wizard Spotted in Kansas' (and your little dog too!)

[Robert]

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