[FairfieldLife] Re: Spong on Fundamentalism

2009-09-29 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 from Bishop Spong; (Bishop Spong is a modern Gnostic, a non-believer in the 
 Redemption theme of the Crucifixion of Jesusthis, from his pov, the 
 death of Christ provided no payment for the sins of mankind.) 

Biship Spong is a powerful speaker with a very important message.  But some of 
his views will clash with some religious authorities namely the Pope among 
others.  See the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZM3FXlLMug




 
 Deb McCollister from Nebraska writes:
 
 Militant fundamentalism in any family of faith seems to threaten our world. 
 Readers of your newsletter are aware of Christian scholars who examine 
 long-held assumptions. Can you tell us about penetrating scholarship in other 
 faith walks, study that examines history while seeking meaning and deeper 
 truths?
 
 Dear Deb,
 
 A very good question. The intellectual revolution that started with 
 Copernicus and traveled through Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Freud, Einstein and 
 many others has had an enormous impact on the religious tradition of the west 
 in both Judaism and Christianity. We have also in both traditions been 
 dealing with critical biblical scholarship for about 200 years. That 
 scholarship, while welcomed by many, has also served to create a 
 fundamentalist backlash in parts of Christianity and Judaism. We have 
 certainly seen evidence of this in the political arena, where the religious 
 right has been very vocal in America in the fight to restore prayer to the 
 classrooms of public schools, to resist the teaching of evolution, to oppose 
 sex education and to keep people like Terri Schiavo alive well after anything 
 resembling real life had long departed. 
 
 In the less developed and less well educated parts of the world, religion 
 serves a variety of purposes. It gives hope to the hopelessness of the poor 
 and downtrodden. It links people with their ancestral past. It helps them 
 deal with the radical insecurity of human existence. When threatened by 
 challenging insights into the origins of these faith traditions, many 
 religious people who are unable to embrace or to process new religious ideas 
 turn defensive and become both rejecting and fundamentalist. There is not as 
 yet a tradition of radical religious scholarship in Islam that would call 
 into question the way fundamentalist Muslims today use the Koran to justify 
 violence. In the world of Buddhism and Hinduism I find today that the 
 intellectually elite simply walk out of religion into secularism. Religion 
 therefore becomes more and more the activity of the unlearned. It is 
 therefore more and more likely to resist change, which makes modernizing that 
 religious system all but impossible.
 
 I am convinced that my religious heritage points me to truth that no religion 
 in and of itself can envision. I do not believe that secular non-belief is 
 the only alternative to being religious, but it takes hard work, deep 
 understanding, rich dialogue and a willingness to embrace vast amounts of 
 fear and insecurity to reach this conclusion. I can testify, however, that to 
 me it has been well worthwhile. As a witness to this truth let me quote a 
 retired bishop who said, The older I get the more deeply I believe, but the 
 fewer beliefs I have. I think that is where I am and I believe that is where 
 all religious systems will have to go if they want to live in our 21st 
 century world. 
 
 Change must come, however, from within the religious system itself. It can 
 never be imposed from outside. So you and I, Deb, must work within the faith 
 of our fathers and mothers. I have found my journey into the depths of 
 Christianity to be the most exciting adventure and the most affirming 
 experience of my life. I invite others to journey with me into the 
 unfathomable mystery of God and life and being. 
 
 
 – John Shelby Spong





[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 An exceprt appeared in the New Yorker a few months ago.
 
 I was shocked in reading it.  Why?  Not because it seemed 
 a satire but because it was so straight and very, very 
 un-Crumb-like.  

Like most people in the world, you don't know 
Robert Crumb at all. He's the straightest arrow
on Earth...doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't
do drugs. And the shyest person you've ever met.

 My immediate impression was that Crumb had become a born-
 again because the strip so adhered to orthodoxy Christianity.

Didn't you even read the review? The book is the
text of Genesis -- all of it -- with literally
every scene illustrated. Never been done before.

What was fascinating to watch is this guy you
characterize as only a satirist forming around
him a cadre of religious scholars and historians
to check his drawings for inaccuracies. And they
were there -- he had unconsciously drawn in things
that were anachronisms to the time, or clothing
that wouldn't have been worn in the times, only
much later in history. So he went back and changed
things. This book will be considered his master-
work, although I don't think it is. That title
applies to some of the private-edition erotic
works. (Don't bother looking for them unless you
have several thousand dollars to spend.) This
book will sell for the normal price...he even
refused to let them sell a limited-edition
private (read expensive) version of it.

 So I am surprised by what is written in the article 
 above because if the New Yorker excerpt is representative 
 of the work as a whole, it is neither a satire nor a 
 Crumb-like comic but more like the Classic Comics 
 version of the Bible without any liberties taken.

The difference is that the artists who did Classic
Comic books 1) weren't very good artists, 2) didn't
know their history or the periods of time they were
illustrating (or didn't care) and thus made it all
up, and 3) didn't have a real feel for the source
material, and a desire to bring it to life.

Robert's work has been compared favorably to the
best artists in the world; his drawing style was
called by one noted art critic Second to none,
and I include Breughel and Michaelangelo in that
statement. Get over Zap Comix, Shemp...Robert
did decades ago.





[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 You're to be commended, Barry, for minimizing your well-
 established trait of name-dropping.  

And you're to be pitied for still running on 
the J-OS operating system after all these years
of meditating. Jealous of me for having seen 
levitation, jealous of me for having stumbled
into having Robert Crumb as a next-door neighbor
and a friend, jealous of pretty much everyone
for having actually done the things you only
sat on your fat ass and wished for or read about.

Time's a wastin', dude. If you actually want to
do something yourself before you die, you've
got to shit or get off the pot. Continue on this
way and when you reach the age of another J-OS
user on this forum you'll be just like her.





[FairfieldLife] The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Great infographic from Kansas State University,
via Wired. It maps the seven deadly sins to the
states they most appear in. Iowa scores fairly
big on envy, wrath, lust and pride:

http://www.wired.com/culture/education/magazine/17-09/st_sinmaps
http://www.wired.com/culture/education/magazine/17-09/st_sinmaps


  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps8_f.jpg]

  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps_f.jpg]

Greed
Average income compared with number of people living below the poverty
line.


  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps2_f.jpg]
Envy

Total thefts (robbery, burglary, larceny, and grand theft auto) per
capita.


  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps3_f.jpg]
Wrath
Number of violent crimes (murder, assault, and rape) per capita.



  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps4_f.jpg]
Sloth
Expenditures on art, entertainment, and recreation compared with
employment.



  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps5_f.jpg]
Gluttony
Number of fast-food restaurants per capita.



  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps6_f.jpg]
Lust
Number of STD cases reported per capita.

  [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps7_f.jpg]

Pride
Aggregate of the other six offenses—because pride is the root of all
sin.




[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   I didn't bother to read it. I refer you instead
   to this writeup from Wikipedia, which I think
   better describes the phenomenon 
   [ snip Wiki definition of boogeyman ]
  
  Oh no, Turq.  Sorry you missed it.
  Yours is more descriptive while the other 
  Is more practical.  The other is more the 
  FF take on negativity.  The transcendental
  Look.  
 
 I see it as trying to put a New Age spin
 on the fact that they're focusing on their
 fears, personifying them, and indulging
 in them.

BTW, I did scan the letter you sent enough
to get the gist of it before I wrote this, 
and as a result class it as the rank super-
stition I think it is, Doug. Although a 
belief in rakshasas is not as prevalent
as a belief in the things in this article,
I'd class them all in the same category,
and a belief in rakshasas on the same 
level as #5, voodoo. Same thing -- blaming
one's own problems on an outer malevolent
source.

http://www.cracked.com/article/139_5-ridiculous-ancient-beliefs-that-thrive-internet/

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's true.

And just because it provides a cool magical
explanation for a mundane phenomenon and 
adds to one's own self importance (because
you think you know how things work) doesn't
mean that the magical explanation is true,
either. 

The guy (I have to assume it's a guy, because
of the level of self importance) who wrote
the rap about rakshasas you like so much is
proposing it as a sadhana to kill rakashasas
and remove fear. And yet he's still locked up
this way with his own sister, after a whole
life together. Great sadhana.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Looking up Joss on www.imdb.com I found that not only was 
 his dad a TV writer going back to Captain Kangaroo in 1955 
 but so was his grandfather who wrote in the early days of 
 television  (Lux Theater). 
 
 John Whedon (grandfather):
 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0923735/
 
 Tom Whedon (father):
 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0923737/
 
 So writing and TV producing is the family dharma.  

Interesting. Despite your opinion to the contrary,
I'm actually not that big a Joss Whedon fanboy. 
I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
(gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
either Buffy or Angel. :-)

So I don't know for sure whether this guy (a true,
certified Joss fanboy if there ever was one) is 
correct about the best episodes of those series.
But I do agree with his assessment of the best
episodes of Firefly and Dollhouse and Dr. Horrible,
so he might be.

25 Best Whedonverse Episodes
http://ca.tv.yahoo.com/blog/25-best-whedonverse-episodes--618





[FairfieldLife] The Guru Dev parampara (lineage)

2009-09-29 Thread Premanand
Have just put up a few pointers about this at:-
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/parampara.html



[FairfieldLife] Has the Right Wing lost its Mind?

2009-09-29 Thread raunchydog
If we had our guns, we would have fought a bloody battle. So, keep your guns, 
and buy more guns, and buy ammunition. [...] Take back America. Don't let them 
take the country into Socialism. And I refer again, Hitler's party was National 
Socialism. [...] And that's what we are having here right now, which is 
bordering on Marxism. 

Read More:
Think Progress: http://snipurl.com/s7njo
Video: http://snipurl.com/s7ne1



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread raunchydog
In his attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry goofed.  According to 
the color graph Iowa is on the saintly end of the spectrum and not the devilish 
end as he would have us believe. Can we say pants on fire or just plain stupid? 
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Great infographic from Kansas State University,
 via Wired. It maps the seven deadly sins to the
 states they most appear in. Iowa scores fairly
 big on envy, wrath, lust and pride:
 
 http://www.wired.com/culture/education/magazine/17-09/st_sinmaps
 http://www.wired.com/culture/education/magazine/17-09/st_sinmaps
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps8_f.jpg]
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps_f.jpg]
 
 Greed
 Average income compared with number of people living below the poverty
 line.
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps2_f.jpg]
 Envy
 
 Total thefts (robbery, burglary, larceny, and grand theft auto) per
 capita.
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps3_f.jpg]
 Wrath
 Number of violent crimes (murder, assault, and rape) per capita.
 
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps4_f.jpg]
 Sloth
 Expenditures on art, entertainment, and recreation compared with
 employment.
 
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps5_f.jpg]
 Gluttony
 Number of fast-food restaurants per capita.
 
 
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps6_f.jpg]
 Lust
 Number of STD cases reported per capita.
 
   [http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/st_sinmaps7_f.jpg]
 
 Pride
 Aggregate of the other six offenses—because pride is the root of all
 sin.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Replying to the Message View snark:  :-)

Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map ../../../../message/230925  In his
attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry goofed. According to
the color graph Iowa is on the saintly end of the spectrum and not the
devilish...

I said only that Iowa scored fairly big, without
specifying at which end of the scale. T'would seem
that Raunchy associates big with devilish, which
should come as no surprise to those who have read
her fantasies about cutting off men's private parts.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Replying to the Message View snark:  :-)
 
 Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map ../../../../message/230925  In his
 attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry goofed. According to
 the color graph Iowa is on the saintly end of the spectrum and not the
 devilish...
 
 I said only that Iowa scored fairly big, without
 specifying at which end of the scale. T'would seem
 that Raunchy associates big with devilish, which
 should come as no surprise to those who have read
 her fantasies about cutting off men's private parts.  :-)


O.K. then, not stupid. Just pants on fire with balls a-roasting.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
Great catch. Hilarious. Chalk up another meltdown for
Barry. What a loser.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 In his attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry
 goofed.  According to the color graph Iowa is on the
 saintly end of the spectrum and not the devilish end as
 he would have us believe. Can we say pants on fire or
 just plain stupid?  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Great infographic from Kansas State University,
  via Wired. It maps the seven deadly sins to the
  states they most appear in. Iowa scores fairly
  big on envy, wrath, lust and pride:
  
  http://www.wired.com/culture/education/magazine/17-09/st_sinmaps




[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  You're to be commended, Barry, for minimizing your well-
  established trait of name-dropping.  
 
 And you're to be pitied for still running on 
 the J-OS operating system after all these years
 of meditating.



I have no idea what J-OS means, try as I might to figure it out.



 Jealous of me for having seen 
 levitation,




Actually, I feel sad for you because:

1) You didn't see levitation but were hypnotized into seeing it by your cult 
master or saw a David Blaine type trick (see youtube for how they do it);

2) After seeing levitation once, it must be quite boring.

3) In your post-cult-leader addled state, you still pathetically cling to a 
silly happenstance of non-reality.

4) Like the cult members of the TMO which you constantly rail against, you are 
hung up on levitation.







 jealous of me for having stumbled
 into having Robert Crumb as a next-door neighbor
 and a friend,



Ah, yes.

This one I will cop to. I think it would be wonderful to meet and know Robert 
Crumb whom I think is a fascinating individual.



 jealous of pretty much everyone
 for having actually done the things you only
 sat on your fat ass and wished for or read about.




I am jealous of Bill Gates, yes.  But that's silly of me to think that I could 
have achieved what he did.

Oh, and I'm not dead YET, Barry, so for the things in life I still aspire to, 
there is still time.


 
 Time's a wastin', dude. If you actually want to
 do something yourself before you die, you've
 got to shit or get off the pot.




Wise words coming from someone who writes tomes and tomes on this forum and 
others against a woman he has had an ongoing hate-fest dialogue for 12 years.

How much time during the day must that take?  And what dreams of YOUR'S does 
that take away from (unless, of course, arguing and hating Judy IS your life's 
dream, which is not outside the realm of possibility).






 Continue on this
 way and when you reach the age of another J-OS
 user on this forum you'll be just like her.




Barry, you're WAY too sensitive to have had such a negative reaction to my 
rather innoculous yet honest post about your name-dropping.

Oh, and one more thing: if you are truly the cosmopolitain man-about-Europe 
that you make yourself out to be?  When you move back to France think about 
shedding the cloth of the arrogant American that you are and actually learn 
French why don't you instead of spending 10 years there, as you did, without 
learning the language.  Certainly, you have freedom of speech and don't have to 
speak the language of the majority but restricting your associations and 
conversations with fellow ex-pats and accomodating Europeans that, out of pity, 
will speak English with unilinguals such as yourself is neither cosmopolitain 
or urbane.

You're just an ugly American with a wallet.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Replying to the Message View snark:  :-)
  
  Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map ../../../../message/230925
  In his attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry
  goofed. According to the color graph Iowa is on the saintly
  end of the spectrum and not the devilish...
  
  I said only that Iowa scored fairly big, without
  specifying at which end of the scale. T'would seem
  that Raunchy associates big with devilish, which
  should come as no surprise to those who have read
  her fantasies about cutting off men's private parts.  :-)
 
 O.K. then, not stupid. Just pants on fire with balls a-roasting.

Actually both. He got it wrong and is now lying in an
attempt to cover up his stupidity.

Scoring big means the devilish end of the scale in
these maps: more theft (envy), more violent crime (rage),
more STD cases (lust), and aggregate of the other six
offenses (pride), because pride is the root of all sin.

Iowa scores low (saintly), not big, on all the above.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 I'm actually not that big a Joss Whedon fanboy. 
 I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
 (gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
 either Buffy or Angel. :-)

Barry, 3/21/09 (#212517):

...My past experience with 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer'
and 'Angel' and 'Firefly' and 'Serenity' and 'Dr.
Horrible's Sing-Along Blog' has convinced me that in
Joss Whedon I am dealing with a very talented human
being.

Barry, 2/21/09 (#209588):

I missed a lot of 'Buffy' and 'Angel'...

Barry to Lawson, 6/17/05 (#62778):

Never watched Buffy The Vampire Slayer?!!! You've
missed out. It's actually tremendously clever. And
Buffy is a babe-and-a-half.

This is a demonstration of how in the moment
Barry is: In moments in February and March of
this year, and in June of '05, Barry had seen at
least some episodes of Buffy and Angel.

In the moment today, he's never seen any of them.




[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   You're to be commended, Barry, for minimizing your well-
   established trait of name-dropping.  
  
  And you're to be pitied for still running on 
  the J-OS operating system after all these years
  of meditating.
 
 I have no idea what J-OS means, try as I might to
 figure it out.

Jealousy operating system.

snip
 Barry, you're WAY too sensitive to have had such a
 negative reaction to my rather innoculous yet honest
 post about your name-dropping.

It wasn't a *negative* reaction, it was a *positive*
reaction. You gave him a golden opportunity to 
fantasize that you're jealous of him.

That's what motivates shallow people like Barry to
drop names, so they can imagine they inspire jealousy
in others. It makes them feel Important and Special.

Boy, how deprived do you have to be of satisfaction
in your life to get off on the fantasy that other
people are jealous of you??





[FairfieldLife] Buddhism Wins Best Religion in the World Award

2009-09-29 Thread Vaj

Someone just sent this to me. Pretty funny, but sadly so.
-

Jonna Hult, Director of Research for ICARUS said It wasn't a  
surprise to me that Buddhism won Best Religion in the World, because  
we could find literally not one single instance of a war fought in  
the name of Buddhism, in contrast to every other religion that seems  
to keep a gun in the closet just in case God makes a mistake.  We  
were hard pressed to even find a Buddhist that had ever been in an  
army. These people practice what they preach to an extent we simply  
could not document with any other spiritual tradition.


Freedom From Religion: Buddhism Wins Best Religion in the World Award

Wednesday July 15, 2009
Categories: Buddhism, Merit/Demerit Badge


In light of the ongoing Freedom From Religion Foundation case, I  
found this news item interesting.



Linda Moulin | 15.07.2009 | 16:55
Tribune de Geneve

In advance of their annual Leading Figure award to a religious figure  
who has done the most to advance the cause of humanism and peace, the  
Geneva-based International Coalition for the Advancement of Religious  
and Spirituality (ICARUS) has chosen to bestow a special award this  
year on the Buddhist Community.  We typically prefer an under-the- 
radar approach for the organization, as we try to embody the spirit  
of modesty found in the greatest traditions, said ICARUS director  
Hans Groehlichen in a phone conference Monday. But with organized  
religion increasingly used as a tool to separate and inflame rather  
than bring together, we felt we had to take the unusual step of  
creating a Best Religion in the World award and making a bit of a  
stir, to inspire other religious leaders to see what is possible when  
you practice compassion.
Groehlichen said the award was voted on by an international  
roundtable of more than 200 religious leaders from every part of the  
spiritual spectrum.  It was interesting to note that once we  
supplied the criteria, many religious leaders voted for Buddhism  
rather than their own religion, said Groehlichen.  Buddhists  
actually make up a tiny minority of our membership, so it was  
fascinating but quite exciting that they won.


Criteria included factors such as promoting personal and community  
peace, increasing compassion and a sense of connection, and  
encouraging preservation of the natural environment. Groehlichen  
continued The biggest factor for us is that ICARUS was founded by  
spiritual and religious people to bring the concepts of non-violence  
to prominence in society.  One of the key questions in our voting  
process was which religion actually practices non-violence.


When presenting the information to the voting members, ICARUS  
researched each of the 38 religions on the ballot extensively,  
offering background, philosophy, and the religions role in government  
and warfare. Jonna Hult, Director of Research for ICARUS said It  
wasn't a surprise to me that Buddhism won Best Religion in the World,  
because we could find literally not one single instance of a war  
fought in the name of Buddhism, in contrast to every other religion  
that seems to keep a gun in the closet just in case God makes a  
mistake.  We were hard pressed to even find a Buddhist that had ever  
been in an army. These people practice what they preach to an extent  
we simply could not document with any other spiritual tradition.


At least one Catholic priest spoke out on behalf of Buddhism.  Father  
Ted O'Shaughnessy said from Belfast, As much as I love the Catholic  
Church, it has always bothered me to no end that we preach love in  
our scripture yet then claim to know God's will when it comes to  
killing other humans. For that reason, I did have to cast my vote for  
the Buddhists.   And Muslim Cleric Tal Bin Wassad agreed from  
Pakistan via his translator. While I am a devout Muslim, I can see  
how much anger and bloodshed is channeled into religious expression  
rather than dealt with on a personal level. The Buddhists have that  
figured out. Bin Wassad, the ICARUS voting member for Pakistan's  
Muslim community continued, In fact, some of my best friends are  
Buddhist.  And Rabbi Shmuel Wasserstein said from Jerusalem, Of  
course, I love Judaism, and I think it's the greatest religion in the  
world. But to be honest, I've been practicing Vipassana meditation  
every day before minyan (daily Jewish prayer) since 1993.  So I get it.


Groehlichen said that the plan was for the award to Buddhism for  
Best Religion in the World to be given to leaders from the various  
lineages in the Buddhist community. However, there was one snag.  
Basically we can't find anyone to give it to, said Groehlichen in a  
followup call late Tuesday. All the Buddhists we call keep saying  
they don't want the award.  Groehlichen explained the strange  
behavior, saying Basically they are all saying they are a  
philosophical tradition, not a religion. But that doesn't change the  

[FairfieldLife] Facebook poll: should Obama be killed or not?

2009-09-29 Thread It's just a ride
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/28/facebook.poll/index.html

The social networking site Facebook on Monday pulled a third-party
application that allows users to create polls after a site member
built a poll asking if President Obama should be killed.


I wish that just once people wouldn't act like the clichés that they are.


[FairfieldLife] Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map

2009-09-29 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Replying to the Message View snark:  :-)
   
   Re: The Seven Deadly Sins Map ../../../../message/230925
   In his attempt to poke America in the eye...again, Barry
   goofed. According to the color graph Iowa is on the saintly
   end of the spectrum and not the devilish...
   
   I said only that Iowa scored fairly big, without
   specifying at which end of the scale. T'would seem
   that Raunchy associates big with devilish, which
   should come as no surprise to those who have read
   her fantasies about cutting off men's private parts.  :-)
  
  O.K. then, not stupid. Just pants on fire with balls a-roasting.
 
 Actually both. He got it wrong and is now lying in an
 attempt to cover up his stupidity.
 
 Scoring big means the devilish end of the scale in
 these maps: more theft (envy), more violent crime (rage),
 more STD cases (lust), and aggregate of the other six
 offenses (pride), because pride is the root of all sin.
 
 Iowa scores low (saintly), not big, on all the above.


Barry the weasel. LOL. It's interesting that the hot bed of conservatism, the 
fundies who are Oh so concerned about what happens in your bedroom and your 
sexual orientation, reside in the lusty states of the south. All except 
Florida. Too old to get it up or smart enough to wear protection? 



[FairfieldLife] How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread It's just a ride
IIRC, about a year ago there were announcements on FFL for the
formation of a group of survivalists who intended to weather a storm
with the economy collapsed, surviving by hunting, gathering, growing
and just making do, bartering because money would be worthless.  Just
wondering how this group is faring since where I live none of this has
become necessary.


I wish that just once people wouldn't act like the clichés that they are.


[FairfieldLife] Burning Down The House

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
For those of us who have been watching House
for the previous five episodes, this two-part
season opener was an inevitability. Greg House
(Hugh Laurie) has been pushing the envelope of
karma for a long time now, and had to get a 
return on his investment sooner or later. And, 
as karma often does, it pays off not with an
Old Testament-like judgment, but with a second
chance. 

Great episode, great script, great acting by
Hugh Laurie as usual (he'll probably finally
get that Emmy for this one), helped along by
stellar performances by Franka Potente and
Andre Braugher. 

It's a fascinating moment in a multi-year TV
series when its lead character actually is
allowed to *change* his character. Will the 
audiences *allow* him to? 

Clint Eastwood's biggest box-office failures
were in films where he wasn't the hero who
rides off into the sunset. One of them (The
Beguiled) contained some of his best work as
an actor, but it flopped like a dead fish in
theaters because audiences didn't want to *see* 
a different Clint Eastwood. They wanted the 
one they had gotten used to.

Similarly, Paul Newman once said that his big-
gest regret as an actor was that he'd never
gotten the chance to play a villain. He'd tried,
many times over the years, but no one would ever
produce a film unless he was the hero. 

So will Greg House be a new Greg House, or will
the producers take the easy road and allow him
to backslide into the Same Old Same Old? If they
don't, will the ratings tank because audiences
want the old House? 

I wait with 'bated breath to find out...





[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  An exceprt appeared in the New Yorker a few
  months ago.
  
  I was shocked in reading it.  Why?  Not
  because it seemed a satire but because it
  was so straight and very, very un-Crumb-like.  
 
 Like most people in the world, you don't know 
 Robert Crumb at all. He's the straightest arrow
 on Earth...doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't
 do drugs. And the shyest person you've ever met.

Of course, this is entirely irrelevant to Shemp's
comment, which was referring to Crumb's *work*,
not Crumb as a person.

But Barry was much more interested in reminding
us all that unlike most people in the world, HE
KNOWS ROBERT CRUMB, because that makes him IMPORTANT
AND SPECIAL, at least in his own mind.

  My immediate impression was that Crumb had
  become a born-again because the strip so
  adhered to orthodoxy Christianity.
 
 Didn't you even read the review? The book is the
 text of Genesis -- all of it -- with literally
 every scene illustrated. Never been done before.

Non sequitur.

Again, Barry doesn't want to discuss the book--
he doesn't have anything insightful to say
about it, in fact--he only wants to make the
point that HE KNOWS ROBERT CRUMB, because that
makes him IMPORTANT AND SPECIAL.

Does this have a familiar ring? I seem to recall
many iterations from Barry of a rant about how
people feel IMPORTANT AND SPECIAL because of their
association with a famous guru.

 What was fascinating to watch is this guy you
 characterize as only a satirist forming around
 him a cadre of religious scholars and historians
 to check his drawings for inaccuracies. And they
 were there -- he had unconsciously drawn in things
 that were anachronisms to the time, or clothing
 that wouldn't have been worn in the times, only
 much later in history. So he went back and changed
 things. This book will be considered his master-
 work, although I don't think it is. That title
 applies to some of the private-edition erotic
 works. (Don't bother looking for them unless you
 have several thousand dollars to spend.) This
 book will sell for the normal price...he even
 refused to let them sell a limited-edition
 private (read expensive) version of it.

Nothing whatsoever in this paragraph that
actually responds to Shemp's comments. Just
more self-important boasting about Barry's
inside-baseball knowledge of Crumb.

  So I am surprised by what is written in the
  article above because if the New Yorker
  excerpt is representative of the work as a
  whole, it is neither a satire nor a Crumb-like
  comic but more like the Classic Comics version
  of the Bible without any liberties taken.
 
 The difference is that the artists who did Classic
 Comic books 1) weren't very good artists, 2) didn't
 know their history or the periods of time they were
 illustrating (or didn't care) and thus made it all
 up, and 3) didn't have a real feel for the source
 material, and a desire to bring it to life.

This is not only totally irrelevant--again--to
Shemp's comments, but it's total bullshit. The
quality of Classic Comics was uneven, but there
was some *excellent* work by top artists who *did*
care about the material and went to the trouble
to get it right.

 Robert's work has been compared favorably to the
 best artists in the world; his drawing style was
 called by one noted art critic Second to none,
 and I include Breughel and Michaelangelo in that
 statement. Get over Zap Comix, Shemp...Robert
 did decades ago.

Blahblahblah. Still totally irrelevant to Shemp's
observations. But Barry KNOWS ROBERT CRUMB, and
that's almost like knowing Breughel and
Michaelangelo [sic]! It makes Barry IMPORTANT
AND SPECIAL.

From an earlier post:

I've seen some of these drawings. In all honesty,
I think that someday art historians will be dis-
cussing them in the same sentences they use to
describe Breughel's drawings of the Bible.

In all honesty, it appears Barry didn't come up
with the Breughel comparison himself; he got it
from the noted art critic but tried to palm it
off as his own in the earlier post.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhism Wins Best Religion in the World Award

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 However, there was one snag. Basically we can't find anyone 
 to give it to, said Groehlichen in a followup call late 
 Tuesday. All the Buddhists we call keep saying they don't 
 want the award.  

I nominate Nabby to accept the award on behalf
of Buddhism. My bet is that if we promise him 
front row seats when Maitreya shows up and 
announces that he's really a Buddhist, he'll
do it.

But we may have to throw in a ride with the
Space Brothers to clinch the deal. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread WillyTex
bill hicks wrote:
 IIRC, about a year ago there were announcements 
 on FFL for the formation of a group of survivalists 
 who intended to weather a storm with the economy 
 collapsed, surviving by hunting, gathering, growing
 and just making do, bartering because money would be 
 worthless.  Just wondering how this group is faring 
 since where I live none of this has become necessary.
 
Maybe you don't live close to Yellowstone, or in a 
climate where you could freeze to death in the winter,
but anything could happen to put you in survival mode. 
I'm very interested in things like this. 

I read that the average person would last only a few 
days without any survival supplies. Beyond that, they'd 
be forced to do battle with their neighbors over food 
alone. 

In the average household, there's maybe enough food to 
feed a family for a few days, at most. After that, it's 
into panic mode. 

No water; no food; no transportation; no heating fuel;
no matches or even BIC lighters; no candles. It would 
be a pretty tough existence, fer sure, until you got a
garden started! Got seeds?

So, I've got a garage full of canned goods; a lake full
of water; and I live in a warm climate. I also have lots 
of bullets for defense in case the neighbors try to
barge in and make off with my stash.

Unless I receive some really big firepower, I figure I
could last a year or two until the garden really started
to pay off. Down here, I've got three planting seasons
every year.

Most people think it couldn't happen to them, but it's
amazing how much damage the weather can do, not to
mention a surprise volcano eruption or an asteroid hit,
or a really big riot. Of course, if push comes to 
shove, I could always count on the government. LOL!

Be prepared is the Scout's motto.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev parampara (lineage)

2009-09-29 Thread do.rflex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandp...@...
wrote:

 Have just put up a few pointers about this at:-
 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/parampara.html



I wonder how many really catch the monumentally staggering and far
reaching evolutionary significance of what you have just shared, Paul:


Guru Dev's guru was a swami called Shri 108 Shri Dandi Ji Swami
Krishnanand Saraswati. What is less well known is just who his guru was,
or indeed the names of Krishanand Saraswati's other disciples.

Well, it appears certain that Krishnanand's guru was the famous 32nd
acharya of Sri Sharada Peetam, Sringeri - Sri Narasimha Bharati VIII
http://www.kataragama.org/sages/kadaiswa.htm , 32nd Shankaracharya of
Sringeri (1817-1879).

It is recorded that Paramahansa Krishnanand attended a very important
meeting of rishis in 1855, some way northwest of his ashram, at Dharali,
close to Gangotri (on what is now National Highway, NH-108
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NH_108 ). The meeting of rishis was
addressed by Vyasa, who possibly addressing Krishnanand personally,
said:-

Holy Guardians of Dharma! Illustrious Rishis! A new sub-cycle in
this Yuga is ending. A new light of the torch of Eternal Truth is to be
ushered into the world. The West has to live according to the Law which
the Lord gave her nearly 2,000 years ago. Optimism and activity,
ambition and love of power have stifled the growth of the spirit of the
West. Now let a new era open. A tributary of the holy Ganga of the Gita
is winding its way to Angala Desha (England). Thus it has been decreed.
This holy and venerable Sage, this representative of the great Shankara,
this saint is undertaking the great task. Give your blessings, holy
Sages.

- preface, `Shri Dada Sanghita - The Heart of the Eastern Mystical
Teaching' by Hari Prasad Shastri, Shanti Sadan, 1948








[FairfieldLife] The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin

2009-09-29 Thread do.rflex

The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin

Michelle Flynn
Teacher
Laura H. Carnell Elementary School

Dear Mrs. Flynn mailto:mfl...@phila.k12.pa.us ,

  [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5386718438772051762] 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mh1TZAM-AWU/SsF34UgODzI/Cgk/tb1TSMkDu\
go/s1600-h/child.png I fondly remember the ten years I spent in
elementary school. We respected our teachers back then. We loved them
with all the love we could gather within our little hearts. A kind word
from a teacher made our world a happy, joyous place.

Our love and respect made us loyal to our teachers. It's why we all took
Mrs. Nelson's side when she slugged Mrs. Goldman after she complained
about making her son pray. Mrs. Nelson deserved our love. She taught us
to sing, Up with People http://www.upwithpeople.org/index.php?id=33 
so we wouldn't fall prey to the enticements of hippies. But more than
that, she deserved our love because she was our teacher.

It's sad you don't get the same respect and love from your students.
That's what the Pennsylvania Human Rights Commission Decision
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/13134/update-pa-state-investigation\
-finds-valley-club-did-discriminate-against-minority-kids-at-its-pool 
On The Valley School Swimming Pool Discrimination Case
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-put-little-white-chocolate-\
lester.html  seems to say.

By now you've read it. It was the investigation into why black kids were
banned from your club's swimming pool.

When investigators asked the black kids who had said, Why are there
black kids here? I am afraid they will do something to my kids , and
they might steal some of my stuff, one child responded, It was
teacher; it was Mrs. Flynn.

I wonder how that child felt when his teacher told him he was too black
to join her family in the pool. I hope he was feeling disloyalty. I
imagine you were devastated by it. It's hard for me to understand how
the innocent love a child has for his teacher could be subverted in such
a way.

Now, of course, you'll be called a racist.

White people can't get a break these days. If you say Obama hates white
culture
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/09/28/beck-cant-or-wont-define-white-\
culture/ , or you throw a fit because black kids are in your pool,
everyone will start calling you a racist.

You're going to have to be very careful at school. You can't make the
black kids sit at the back of the room. You can't ignore them when they
need help. You can't make cracks about nappy hair. You'll have to
pretend to treat them equally. You might even have to hug one of them.

That's the America we live in today.

Heterosexually yours in a chaste, biblically appropriate, and bleached
pool kind of way,

Gen. JC Christian, patriot

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/09/sad-sorry-plight-of-white-christi\
an_24.html






[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread WillyTex
  Like most people in the world, you don't know 
  Robert Crumb at all. He's the straightest arrow
  on Earth...doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't
  do drugs. And the shyest person you've ever met.
 
Judy wrote:
 Of course, this is entirely irrelevant to Shemp's
 comment, which was referring to Crumb's *work*,
 not Crumb as a person...
 
I met Crumb when he lived in San Francisco; he was
working on an album cover for Big Brother. Crumb was,
and probably still is, a 'redneck', and a self-admitted 
misogynist. But it's just amazing how many people 
think murder and rape are funny.

Crumb thought the 'Peace Movement' was a liberal 
conspiracy. He was, by all accounts, a very 
disagreeable person to be around. He couldn't
stand Rock Music like the Dead or the Airplane,
and never attended any concerts at the Avalon or
Winterland. 

According to some of the artists who lived in the 
Haight Ashbury, R. Crumb was one of the least 
talented, compared to people like Rick Griffin, 
Gilbert Shelton, and Ralph Bakshi. None of these
artists could stand to be around Crumb, since he
was so racist and bigoted. Crumb hated hippies.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin

2009-09-29 Thread WillyTex
John wrote: 
 The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin
 
Don't you just hate those straight, white, American 
Christians!



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin

2009-09-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 The Sad, Sorry Plight of the White Christian Merakin

White Christian Merkins? From Wikipedia:

Merkin (first use 1617)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin#cite_note-0  is a pubic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair  wig
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wig_%28hair%29 , originally worn by
prostitutes after shaving http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving  their
genitalia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitalia .

The pervert in me cannot help but ask whether the merkins themselves are
white (and why someone would want to simuate white pubic hair), or
whether the only people these days who buy merkins are white Christians?
Either way, it's gotta be an interesting story.

What? [ in my best Emily Latella voice ] Merakin?

Oh. Never mind.

:-)





[FairfieldLife] The Creepy Mentality of Wingnut World

2009-09-29 Thread do.rflex

  [This Modern World By Tom Tomorrow]




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Guru Dev parampara (lineage)

2009-09-29 Thread Premanand
Still tinkering with the webpage on the Guru Dev parampara, adding little bits 
of info - http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/parampara.html


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand premanandpaul@
 wrote:
 
  Have just put up a few pointers about this at:-
  http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/parampara.html
 
 
 
 I wonder how many really catch the monumentally staggering and far
 reaching evolutionary significance of what you have just shared, Paul:
 
 
 Guru Dev's guru was a swami called Shri 108 Shri Dandi Ji Swami
 Krishnanand Saraswati. What is less well known is just who his guru was,
 or indeed the names of Krishanand Saraswati's other disciples.
 
 Well, it appears certain that Krishnanand's guru was the famous 32nd
 acharya of Sri Sharada Peetam, Sringeri - Sri Narasimha Bharati VIII
 http://www.kataragama.org/sages/kadaiswa.htm , 32nd Shankaracharya of
 Sringeri (1817-1879).
 
 It is recorded that Paramahansa Krishnanand attended a very important
 meeting of rishis in 1855, some way northwest of his ashram, at Dharali,
 close to Gangotri (on what is now National Highway, NH-108
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NH_108 ). The meeting of rishis was
 addressed by Vyasa, who possibly addressing Krishnanand personally,
 said:-
 
 Holy Guardians of Dharma! Illustrious Rishis! A new sub-cycle in
 this Yuga is ending. A new light of the torch of Eternal Truth is to be
 ushered into the world. The West has to live according to the Law which
 the Lord gave her nearly 2,000 years ago. Optimism and activity,
 ambition and love of power have stifled the growth of the spirit of the
 West. Now let a new era open. A tributary of the holy Ganga of the Gita
 is winding its way to Angala Desha (England). Thus it has been decreed.
 This holy and venerable Sage, this representative of the great Shankara,
 this saint is undertaking the great task. Give your blessings, holy
 Sages.
 
 - preface, `Shri Dada Sanghita - The Heart of the Eastern Mystical
 Teaching' by Hari Prasad Shastri, Shanti Sadan, 1948





[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  An exceprt appeared in the New Yorker a few months ago.
  
  I was shocked in reading it.  Why?  Not because it seemed 
  a satire but because it was so straight and very, very 
  un-Crumb-like.  
 
 Like most people in the world, you don't know 
 Robert Crumb at all. He's the straightest arrow
 on Earth...doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't
 do drugs. And the shyest person you've ever met.



The straight that I was referring to was absense of reference to sex, body 
parts (such as exhaggerated women's behinds and boobs), and racial stereotypes 
and racial epithets.

And of course I don't know Robert, Barry.  He lives in France and I live in 
America with the other peons.




 
  My immediate impression was that Crumb had become a born-
  again because the strip so adhered to orthodoxy Christianity.
 
 Didn't you even read the review? The book is the
 text of Genesis -- all of it -- with literally
 every scene illustrated. Never been done before.
 
 What was fascinating to watch is this guy you
 characterize as only a satirist


...well, in addition to pornography of course...and comedy.



 forming around
 him a cadre of religious scholars and historians
 to check his drawings for inaccuracies. And they
 were there -- he had unconsciously drawn in things
 that were anachronisms to the time, or clothing
 that wouldn't have been worn in the times, only
 much later in history. So he went back and changed
 things. This book will be considered his master-
 work, although I don't think it is. That title
 applies to some of the private-edition erotic
 works. (Don't bother looking for them unless you
 have several thousand dollars to spend.) This
 book will sell for the normal price...he even
 refused to let them sell a limited-edition
 private (read expensive) version of it.




Uh, I think you're making my point for me: that this work is quite unusual for 
Crumb.




 
  So I am surprised by what is written in the article 
  above because if the New Yorker excerpt is representative 
  of the work as a whole, it is neither a satire nor a 
  Crumb-like comic but more like the Classic Comics 
  version of the Bible without any liberties taken.
 
 The difference is that the artists who did Classic
 Comic books 1) weren't very good artists, 2) didn't
 know their history or the periods of time they were
 illustrating (or didn't care) and thus made it all
 up, and 3) didn't have a real feel for the source
 material, and a desire to bring it to life.
 
 Robert's work has been compared favorably to the
 best artists in the world; his drawing style was
 called by one noted art critic Second to none,
 and I include Breughel and Michaelangelo in that
 statement. Get over Zap Comix, Shemp...Robert
 did decades ago.



I find everything Robert did outside of his porno/Zap/satire/etc. stuff quite 
boring.  I am referring to his countryside and village etchings (around 
France), his old Blues etchings, and now his Bible stuff.

I only like his -- as you put it -- Zap stuff.  I suppose I am an uneducated 
Rube, not as urbane and as sophisticated as you Barry, and don't know real 
art.  But I know what I like.




[FairfieldLife] Re: R Crumb Zaps the Bible

2009-09-29 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

   Like most people in the world, you don't know 
   Robert Crumb at all. He's the straightest arrow
   on Earth...doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't
   do drugs. And the shyest person you've ever met.
  
 Judy wrote:
  Of course, this is entirely irrelevant to Shemp's
  comment, which was referring to Crumb's *work*,
  not Crumb as a person...
  
 I met Crumb when he lived in San Francisco; he was
 working on an album cover for Big Brother. Crumb was,
 and probably still is, a 'redneck', and a self-admitted 
 misogynist. But it's just amazing how many people 
 think murder and rape are funny.
 
 Crumb thought the 'Peace Movement' was a liberal 
 conspiracy. He was, by all accounts, a very 
 disagreeable person to be around. He couldn't
 stand Rock Music like the Dead or the Airplane,
 and never attended any concerts at the Avalon or
 Winterland. 
 
 According to some of the artists who lived in the 
 Haight Ashbury, R. Crumb was one of the least 
 talented, compared to people like Rick Griffin, 
 Gilbert Shelton, and Ralph Bakshi. None of these
 artists could stand to be around Crumb, since he
 was so racist and bigoted. Crumb hated hippies.



He appears to have a lot of hate around him according to your account, 
WillyTex.

Now I understand why him and Barry are such good friends.

Hey, Barry, do you and Robert have ex-pat Thanksgiving together every year?



[FairfieldLife] David Lynch shames the TM Movement

2009-09-29 Thread ShempMcGurk
The stupid schmuck has signed a petition in support of child rapist Roman 
Polanski:

http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutient-Roman-Polanski-Petition-for-Roman-Polanski.1340.0.html



[FairfieldLife] Bill Clinton on Right Wing Conspiracy

2009-09-29 Thread John
Obama is the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45_09YojZYkfeature=related



Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch shames the TM Movement

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
ShempMcGurk wrote:
 The stupid schmuck has signed a petition in support of child rapist Roman 
 Polanski:

 http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutient-Roman-Polanski-Petition-for-Roman-Polanski.1340.0.html
As a rock musician in the 60's I can tell you that under age girls were 
always a problem.  They would make themselves look older.  One had to 
gingerly tell them they couldn't come home with us without hurting their 
feelings.  It was a real pain in the ass.  The cops were always trying 
to bust us for under age chicks.   Little did they know I had friends in 
high places who alerted us about that surveillance.  I had one major 
rock star of the period leave us with two runaways when he visited our 
house.  :-(

I was often very happy that a parent would accompany their child when 
they took music lessons from me in the 1980s.  It was well known that if 
a kid didn't like the lessons they might say the teacher hit on them 
when they didn't.  And sometimes the mom would decide they wanted to 
sign up for lessons too. ;-)

These days if I was teaching I would probably video record the lesson 
and let the student take home a copy too.  It  would serve two purposes 
obviously.

And BTW what is the legal age in India?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
FYI, Firefly was a series that came later than Buffy and Angel. 
Barry's saying he liked Firefly enough to check out Whedon's earlier 
series.  I only became aware of Firefly after a friend who owned a local 
video rental recommended the DVDs of the series.   I was aware of Buffy 
but it was too teen for me and never saw an episode of Angel which 
was probably too teen too.  Firefly was a fun space western.  Whedon 
was having a good run.  In fact probably to Barry's chagrin I was trying 
to find Whedon's birth info to see if he is running a bad planetary 
period.  Unfortunately he's not in the AstroDataBank and the best I can 
get is the day and location of birth.

I also thought the family dharma element might be interesting to some 
other FFL'ers.  Whedon probably grew up visiting sets for the series his 
dad worked on.  There's a very interesting commentary by Randy Newman on 
the Pleasantville DVD about how he grew up hanging out with his uncles 
and listening to people like John Goldsmith rip Beethoven symphonies and 
other classical composers works.  Growing up in the business can be a 
real advantage as you know the mindfields before you even start.

authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
 snip
   
 I'm actually not that big a Joss Whedon fanboy. 
 I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
 (gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
 either Buffy or Angel. :-)
 

 Barry, 3/21/09 (#212517):

 ...My past experience with 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer'
 and 'Angel' and 'Firefly' and 'Serenity' and 'Dr.
 Horrible's Sing-Along Blog' has convinced me that in
 Joss Whedon I am dealing with a very talented human
 being.

 Barry, 2/21/09 (#209588):

 I missed a lot of 'Buffy' and 'Angel'...

 Barry to Lawson, 6/17/05 (#62778):

 Never watched Buffy The Vampire Slayer?!!! You've
 missed out. It's actually tremendously clever. And
 Buffy is a babe-and-a-half.

 This is a demonstration of how in the moment
 Barry is: In moments in February and March of
 this year, and in June of '05, Barry had seen at
 least some episodes of Buffy and Angel.

 In the moment today, he's never seen any of them.



   




[FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 FYI, Firefly was a series that came later than Buffy
 and Angel. Barry's saying he liked Firefly enough to
 check out Whedon's earlier series.

Well, actually, no, he's saying he has *never seen* an
episode of either Buffy or Angel:

snip
  I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
  (gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
  either Buffy or Angel. :-)

Not clear why he's lying now--or lied the three times
previously when he said he *had* seen some episodes.
Seems an awfully trivial thing to lie about, one way
or the other.

Maybe it's just that the idea of your assuming he's a
fanboy gives him the collywobbles, because he thinks
it sounds, you know, so unevolved and unelite, so
*attached*.

Urban Dictionary's third definition of fanboy does
seem quite apt, though: An arrogant person who goes
into an outburst every time something he likes is
questioned.



  Barry, 3/21/09 (#212517):
 
  ...My past experience with 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer'
  and 'Angel' and 'Firefly' and 'Serenity' and 'Dr.
  Horrible's Sing-Along Blog' has convinced me that in
  Joss Whedon I am dealing with a very talented human
  being.
 
  Barry, 2/21/09 (#209588):
 
  I missed a lot of 'Buffy' and 'Angel'...
 
  Barry to Lawson, 6/17/05 (#62778):
 
  Never watched Buffy The Vampire Slayer?!!! You've
  missed out. It's actually tremendously clever. And
  Buffy is a babe-and-a-half.
 
  This is a demonstration of how in the moment
  Barry is: In moments in February and March of
  this year, and in June of '05, Barry had seen at
  least some episodes of Buffy and Angel.
 
  In the moment today, he's never seen any of them.




[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch shames the TM Movement

2009-09-29 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 ShempMcGurk wrote:
  The stupid schmuck has signed a petition in support of child rapist Roman 
  Polanski:
 
  http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutient-Roman-Polanski-Petition-for-Roman-Polanski.1340.0.html
 As a rock musician in the 60's I can tell you that under age girls were 
 always a problem.  They would make themselves look older.  One had to 
 gingerly tell them they couldn't come home with us without hurting their 
 feelings.  It was a real pain in the ass.  The cops were always trying 
 to bust us for under age chicks.   Little did they know I had friends in 
 high places who alerted us about that surveillance.  I had one major 
 rock star of the period leave us with two runaways when he visited our 
 house.  :-(
 
 I was often very happy that a parent would accompany their child when 
 they took music lessons from me in the 1980s.  It was well known that if 
 a kid didn't like the lessons they might say the teacher hit on them 
 when they didn't.  And sometimes the mom would decide they wanted to 
 sign up for lessons too. ;-)
 
 These days if I was teaching I would probably video record the lesson 
 and let the student take home a copy too.  It  would serve two purposes 
 obviously.
 
 And BTW what is the legal age in India?



Your policy was not too far off from Billy Graham who had a life-long policy of 
never being alone in a room with a female 'cuase he was so afraid of being 
compromised and of compromising his ministry.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 bill hicks wrote:
   
 IIRC, about a year ago there were announcements 
 on FFL for the formation of a group of survivalists 
 who intended to weather a storm with the economy 
 collapsed, surviving by hunting, gathering, growing
 and just making do, bartering because money would be 
 worthless.  Just wondering how this group is faring 
 since where I live none of this has become necessary.

 
 Maybe you don't live close to Yellowstone, or in a 
 climate where you could freeze to death in the winter,
 but anything could happen to put you in survival mode. 
 I'm very interested in things like this. 

 I read that the average person would last only a few 
 days without any survival supplies. Beyond that, they'd 
 be forced to do battle with their neighbors over food 
 alone. 

 In the average household, there's maybe enough food to 
 feed a family for a few days, at most. After that, it's 
 into panic mode. 

 No water; no food; no transportation; no heating fuel;
 no matches or even BIC lighters; no candles. It would 
 be a pretty tough existence, fer sure, until you got a
 garden started! Got seeds?

 So, I've got a garage full of canned goods; a lake full
 of water; and I live in a warm climate. I also have lots 
 of bullets for defense in case the neighbors try to
 barge in and make off with my stash.

 Unless I receive some really big firepower, I figure I
 could last a year or two until the garden really started
 to pay off. Down here, I've got three planting seasons
 every year.

 Most people think it couldn't happen to them, but it's
 amazing how much damage the weather can do, not to
 mention a surprise volcano eruption or an asteroid hit,
 or a really big riot. Of course, if push comes to 
 shove, I could always count on the government. LOL!

 Be prepared is the Scout's motto.

Sound like you've been listening to Alex Jone's sponsors. :-D

Here's one person's account of what life was like in Argentina after the 
economy collapse.  Not pretty:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9628597/Lessons-from-Argentinas-economic-collapse




[FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfiend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  FYI, Firefly was a series that came later than Buffy
  and Angel. Barry's saying he liked Firefly enough to
  check out Whedon's earlier series.
 
 Well, actually, no, he's saying he has *never seen* an
 episode of either Buffy or Angel:
 
 snip
   I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
   (gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
   either Buffy or Angel. :-)
 
 Not clear why he's lying now--or lied the three times
 previously when he said he *had* seen some episodes.
 Seems an awfully trivial thing to lie about, one way
 or the other.
 
 Maybe it's just that the idea of your assuming he's a
 fanboy gives him the collywobbles, because he thinks
 it sounds, you know, so unevolved and unelite, so
 *attached*.
 
 Urban Dictionary's third definition of fanboy does
 seem quite apt, though: An arrogant person who goes
 into an outburst every time something he likes is
 questioned.


Also from the Urban Dictionary:

Stalker- a person obsessed with another to the point of insanity.
Someone who harrasses, annoys, provokes because of self 
contempt and jealousy. Is known for doing anything to get a
reaction.

punk'd-to get embarassed in front of your crew


You lose, again.



[FairfieldLife] Duetto buffo di due gatti

2009-09-29 Thread do.rflex


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjtVDG0drG0



[FairfieldLife] Rotten Tomatoes Worst of the Worst 2000-2009

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
100 worst movies of the period.  How many have you seen?  I've seen only 
a few.  Some like Babylon AD might be better if we ever get to see the 
movie the director wanted to make.  Some are so bad they are campy fun 
to watch.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Worst of the Worst 2000-2009

2009-09-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 100 worst movies of the period.  How many have you seen? 

I never even heard of any on the 91-100 page, so I skipped ahead to the 1-10 
page. Never heard of any of them, either.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Worst of the Worst 2000-2009

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 100 worst movies of the period.  How many have you seen? 
 

 I never even heard of any on the 91-100 page, so I skipped ahead to the 1-10 
 page. Never heard of any of them, either.
Turq recently wrote about number 100: Whiteout.  I would bet you've 
seen some between 11-90.
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch shames the TM Movement

2009-09-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

ShempMcGurk wrote:
The stupid schmuck has signed a petition in support of child rapist  
Roman Polanski:


http://www.sacd.fr/Le-cinema-soutient-Roman-Polanski-Petition-for-Roman-Polanski.1340.0.html


As a rock musician in the 60's I can tell you that under age girls  
were

always a problem.  They would make themselves look older.


Yeah such a rough life Bhair.  The problem
with your example is that the girl told RP,
apparently several times, what her age was.
And told him no several times as well.
It's pretty much as much of a clear-cut case
of rape as you can get--even Polanski admits that.


 One had to
gingerly tell them they couldn't come home with us without hurting  
their

feelings.


Tenderness and sensitivity being real hallmarks
of 60s-era rockers, of course.


 It was a real pain in the ass.  The cops were always trying
to bust us for under age chicks.   Little did they know I had  
friends in

high places who alerted us about that surveillance.


And of course you guys were the
only ones who knew this inside info.


I had one major
rock star of the period leave us with two runaways when he visited our
house.  :-(

I was often very happy that a parent would accompany their child when
they took music lessons from me in the 1980s.  It was well known  
that if

a kid didn't like the lessons they might say the teacher hit on them
when they didn't.  And sometimes the mom would decide they wanted to
sign up for lessons too. ;-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread meowthirteen
- Eat red clover flowers
and
sun gaze for nutrition

One really doesn't need much food to thrive, actually.









-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 WillyTex wrote:
  bill hicks wrote:

  IIRC, about a year ago there were announcements 
  on FFL for the formation of a group of survivalists 
  who intended to weather a storm with the economy 
  collapsed, surviving by hunting, gathering, growing
  and just making do, bartering because money would be 
  worthless.  Just wondering how this group is faring 
  since where I live none of this has become necessary.
 
  
  Maybe you don't live close to Yellowstone, or in a 
  climate where you could freeze to death in the winter,
  but anything could happen to put you in survival mode. 
  I'm very interested in things like this. 
 
  I read that the average person would last only a few 
  days without any survival supplies. Beyond that, they'd 
  be forced to do battle with their neighbors over food 
  alone. 
 
  In the average household, there's maybe enough food to 
  feed a family for a few days, at most. After that, it's 
  into panic mode. 
 
  No water; no food; no transportation; no heating fuel;
  no matches or even BIC lighters; no candles. It would 
  be a pretty tough existence, fer sure, until you got a
  garden started! Got seeds?
 
  So, I've got a garage full of canned goods; a lake full
  of water; and I live in a warm climate. I also have lots 
  of bullets for defense in case the neighbors try to
  barge in and make off with my stash.
 
  Unless I receive some really big firepower, I figure I
  could last a year or two until the garden really started
  to pay off. Down here, I've got three planting seasons
  every year.
 
  Most people think it couldn't happen to them, but it's
  amazing how much damage the weather can do, not to
  mention a surprise volcano eruption or an asteroid hit,
  or a really big riot. Of course, if push comes to 
  shove, I could always count on the government. LOL!
 
  Be prepared is the Scout's motto.
 
 Sound like you've been listening to Alex Jone's sponsors. :-D
 
 Here's one person's account of what life was like in Argentina after the 
 economy collapse.  Not pretty:
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/9628597/Lessons-from-Argentinas-economic-collapse





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread Bhairitu
Thanks, Bambi.   :-D

meowthirteen wrote:
 - Eat red clover flowers
 and
 sun gaze for nutrition

 One really doesn't need much food to thrive, actually.


   



[FairfieldLife] Re: How goes survival in FF?

2009-09-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Thanks, Bambi.   :-D

Mmmm... Bambi...
 
 meowthirteen wrote:
  - Eat red clover flowers
  and
  sun gaze for nutrition
 
  One really doesn't need much food to thrive, actually.
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Joss Whedon's TV Dharma

2009-09-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfiend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   FYI, Firefly was a series that came later than Buffy
   and Angel. Barry's saying he liked Firefly enough to
   check out Whedon's earlier series.
  
  Well, actually, no, he's saying he has *never seen* an
  episode of either Buffy or Angel:
  
  snip
I discovered him only with Firefly and have never 
(gulp...forgive me, Saint Joss) seen an episode of
either Buffy or Angel. :-)
  
  Not clear why he's lying now--or lied the three times
  previously when he said he *had* seen some episodes.
  Seems an awfully trivial thing to lie about, one way
  or the other.
  
  Maybe it's just that the idea of your assuming he's a
  fanboy gives him the collywobbles, because he thinks
  it sounds, you know, so unevolved and unelite, so
  *attached*.
  
  Urban Dictionary's third definition of fanboy does
  seem quite apt, though: An arrogant person who goes
  into an outburst every time something he likes is
  questioned.
 
 Also from the Urban Dictionary:

From the first definition of Stalker:

The term...has come to be used as a defense
mechanism for anyone seeking justification for
not being attracted socially or physically to
someone elseNote: Far too many idiots
think they're more important than they really
are90 percent of the people who use the
term couldn't get a real stalker to save their
lives.

Tip from Ethics 101: The reprehensible person
is the one who tries to con others and pretends
to be someone he isn't (as well as those who
attempt to cover for him)--not the whistleblower
who exposes the con.


 
 Stalker- a person obsessed with another to the point of insanity.
 Someone who harrasses, annoys, provokes because of self 
 contempt and jealousy. Is known for doing anything to get a
 reaction.
 
 punk'd-to get embarassed in front of your crew

I guess you must be pretty embarassed [sic], huh?
 
 
 You lose, again.

   Barry, 3/21/09 (#212517):
  
   ...My past experience with 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer'
   and 'Angel' and 'Firefly' and 'Serenity' and 'Dr.
   Horrible's Sing-Along Blog' has convinced me that in
   Joss Whedon I am dealing with a very talented human
   being.
  
   Barry, 2/21/09 (#209588):
  
   I missed a lot of 'Buffy' and 'Angel'...
  
   Barry to Lawson, 6/17/05 (#62778):
  
   Never watched Buffy The Vampire Slayer?!!! You've
   missed out. It's actually tremendously clever. And
   Buffy is a babe-and-a-half.
  
   This is a demonstration of how in the moment
   Barry is: In moments in February and March of
   this year, and in June of '05, Barry had seen at
   least some episodes of Buffy and Angel.
  
   In the moment today, he's never seen any of them.