[FairfieldLife] Amenaza Mediatica
by Julio Alessandroni http://visionaryartgallery.weebly.com/julio-alessandroni.html
[FairfieldLife] Jon Beinart
As a child Beinart was lost in his imagination and preoccupied with ants, snails, spiders, and mice. http://surrealistisch.blogspot.com/2009/05/jon-beinart.html
[FairfieldLife] Featuring Sergey Tyukanov
...and I thought the feral pigs attacking Fairfield were bad...(look what they have in Russia!) http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wdBHQOza9lw/Tmn63-0CwEI/EqY/3jQTk-4FXB4/s1600/Sergey+Tyukanov+painter.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Virtual tour of Sergey Tyukanov's Museum
Neat!...looking forward to more of his work. http://www.tyukanov.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now. I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote: From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 5:16 PM Well Denise, if I were a woman I would be very careful in engaging perverts viz his fantasies with young women. He is an awesome writer no doubt but he is stuck in some tween fantasy la la land. And for some weird reason he wants appreciation from others for his low vibe slimeball perverted writings. At least he could have shut up and not criticized others, oh well. Of course I love it - Mother Kali loves tamasic offerings and having her energy makes it easy to deal with perverts like Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Dearest Bob, as someone says on this forum (and I suffer still from looking at content, not authors), Bhahahahahaha.bhaaahaaahaaa... Let me just say that I mean facetious in the simplest of definitions as put forth in The New American Webster Handy College Dictionary, which is dumbed down appropriately for the next generation, and in keeping with the third grade level...it is that which exemplifies a peculiar brand of optimism...defined as humorous or joking.  But, in all seriousness and as a reminder...as long as the roots are not severed, all is well, and all will be well in the garden.  Or, if you prefer, Easy Does It. --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: Bob Price bobpriced@... Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 3:42 PM  Denise, It's always a pleasure to hear from you. Originally meant having polished or urbane manners Treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant. I was curious how you meant facetious?  I have no issues with the former meaning above, but if you meant the ladder I'm wondering if you could enlighten me about what I should consider serious topics on FFL. For example, if your insightful and wholly original posts on current events are candidates I could devote a little more quality time between therapy sessions. The great thing about your work is that no one could refuse me an Internet connection based on the argument that I'm trolling realization sites, which they claim, is the source of my psychosis. Of course if anyone contacted you you'd have to play along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPQ9gww_qc From: Denise Evans dmevans365@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 9:36:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Dear Bob, all steps lead to the same place.   It's a simple concept...to be or not to be.  You know it all and none of it at the same time so don't let that get in your way.  I, for one, have missed your facetious wit and tales of the unenlightened-enlightened, unrealized-self-realized and am glad to hear you are engaged in the question of being still.  --- On Thu, 9/8/11, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: Bob Price bobpriced@... Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 8:37 AM  No One Is Paying Any Attention To Me So I'll Suck Up To 
A Few People Hoping They'll Fall For It And Focus On ME I'm writing this post from the nurse's station in the psychiatric wing of the Betty Ford Centre in Rancho Mirage. In the event the nurse returns, I apologize in advance if my post ends abruptly. As part of my recovery program, I'm not allowed any connection that might
[FairfieldLife] Francisco Sambo's Creatures
Reminds me of The Island of Dr. Moreau. http://surrealistisch.blogspot.com/2010/09/francesco-sambo.html
[FairfieldLife] painted woman with weird hat
works of Gil Bruvel http://surrealistisch.blogspot.com/2009/05/gil-bruvel.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Magritte's La Clairvoyance, 1936
Finally, Magritte...praise be to perspicacity easily divined. --- On Fri, 9/9/11, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Magritte's La Clairvoyance, 1936 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 9:21 PM http://rene-magritte-paintings.blogspot.com/2007/08/la-clairvoyance.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Virtual tour of Sergey Tyukanov's Museum
Very cool. --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Virtual tour of Sergey Tyukanov's Museum To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 11:18 PM Neat!...looking forward to more of his work. http://www.tyukanov.com/
[FairfieldLife] Hugest obstacle to all siddhis?
pratyuuhaH sarvasiddhiinaam* uttaapaH prathamaH kila. Judit Törzsök's translation: The first and foremost obstacle to all success is the heat of overenthusiasm. * genitive(aka possessive) plural from sarvasiddhi_s: all the siddhi_s.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I love it when you call me hon. The first time you did it, it was honey which I believe is a synonym for sweetheart? Is this an indication of where our relationship is headed--- next ho and then just plain h? BTW, did you mean non sequitur as in a literary device or lacking logic? And what do you consider yourself a gardener, lawn mower or well poisoner? Personally I like to think of myself as a lawn gnome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBU1_fEuH8feature=related When it comes to three kinds of people, I have to go with Will Rogers' definition: There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest of them, who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. I'm not sure how this relates to the question you asked, Bob, but my suspicion is that if someone is calling someone else a well poisoner, after several days of doing exactly that themselves, then they might fall into Will's last category. I'm just not sure how exactly a person of that gender manages to pee on a fence. :-) Lawn gnome seems to be a much higher designation to aspire to. Much more high-vibe, and if Amelie is any indication, you get to travel the world more. From: authfriend jstein@... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, I'm sorry for the tardy response, I believe you know about my recent challenges. Thank you for your post, its always a rare treat to hear from you. In case its awhile before we are in touch again I want to mention how much I enjoy your writing, you don't need me to tell you how talented you are. That said, I'd like to drill down a bit on this word, fascinated. I don't think for a minute you are fascinated by me You're very right about that, but since that wasn't what I wrote, it appears to be a non sequitur. Did you ever hear the old saw about there being three types of people, gardeners, lawn mowers, and well poisoners? Barry's a well poisoner. You're welcome to your fantasies about ritualism and addiction, but you'll excuse me if I ignore them and continue to call attention to Barry's poisoning attempts, as well as to the double standards of those who believe it's their mission to defend him (which I note you were unable to comment on, taking the ad hominem route instead). Are we clear, hon?
[FairfieldLife] Extremely futile features: NFC sharing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTSPyin8370NR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fraulein Barracks
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42145.jpg Just wanted to say that I always enjoy your posts of artworks and photos, Yifu, though I rarely comment on them. This one deserves comment. :-) [http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42145.jpg] I'm old enough to have seen Stag magazine on the newsstands, although I have no memory of ever having read one. This cover looks like it's from the second incarnation of Stag, which according to Wikipedia focused on ostensibly 'true-life' fiction of men in wartime or in rugged adventure mode. So that means that the adventure depicted in this cover art was considered potentially true-life. The readers could identify with the leather-jacketed hunk about to be locked up in a Nazi prison run by women who looked like the dominatrix babe on the cover , because this was considered a true- life adventure. Now *that* is having an active fantasy life. :-) Before it transitioned to a porn magazine, among the writers who wrote for Stag were Mario Puzo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo , Bruce Jay Friedman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Jay_Friedman , David Markson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Markson , Mickey Spillane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Spillane and Martin Cruz Smith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Cruz_Smith . Those issues must be collectibles these days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New photograph of Saturn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: from Cassini probe: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0901/newrings_cassini_big.jpg Now that is cool. I want that image for my company logo.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Nice troll post, Turq. Seriously, both well-crafted to offend almost everyone, and well written in a conversational tone to draw the suckers in. Good job, lil' guy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I love it when you call me hon. The first time you did it, it was honey which I believe is a synonym for sweetheart? Is this an indication of where our relationship is headed--- next ho and then just plain h? BTW, did you mean non sequitur as in a literary device or lacking logic? And what do you consider yourself a gardener, lawn mower or well poisoner? Personally I like to think of myself as a lawn gnome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBU1_fEuH8feature=related When it comes to three kinds of people, I have to go with Will Rogers' definition: There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest of them, who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. I'm not sure how this relates to the question you asked, Bob, but my suspicion is that if someone is calling someone else a well poisoner, after several days of doing exactly that themselves, then they might fall into Will's last category. I'm just not sure how exactly a person of that gender manages to pee on a fence. :-) Lawn gnome seems to be a much higher designation to aspire to. Much more high-vibe, and if Amelie is any indication, you get to travel the world more. From: authfriend jstein@ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, I'm sorry for the tardy response, I believe you know about my recent challenges. Thank you for your post, its always a rare treat to hear from you. In case its awhile before we are in touch again I want to mention how much I enjoy your writing, you don't need me to tell you how talented you are. That said, I'd like to drill down a bit on this word, fascinated. I don't think for a minute you are fascinated by me You're very right about that, but since that wasn't what I wrote, it appears to be a non sequitur. Did you ever hear the old saw about there being three types of people, gardeners, lawn mowers, and well poisoners? Barry's a well poisoner. You're welcome to your fantasies about ritualism and addiction, but you'll excuse me if I ignore them and continue to call attention to Barry's poisoning attempts, as well as to the double standards of those who believe it's their mission to defend him (which I note you were unable to comment on, taking the ad hominem route instead). Are we clear, hon?
[FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. Finally, I really appreciate you reserving me a Netflix-enabled bed in the asylum. I look forward to watching X over and over, especially every time Nurse Ratched comes around with my meds. She gets SO angry when she sees women more slim and more attractive than herself, and Viva Bianca is pretty much the queen of both. The films in this basket-weaving exercise may be preordained by Netflix, but the use I put them to is my own weaving. Heh heh. The only questions I have about your enlightened vision of the FFL Asylum are: 1) there seems to be no bed reserved for Curtis; I can only imagine that he would spice up the group therapy sessions big-time, and 2) you haven't mentioned who picks up the tab at the bar. As you can imagine (having written all of this and still only halfway through a single Westmalle Tripel), the eventual size of the bar bill is of interest to me, and to my health insurance provider. Another thing I'm curious about, given your fondness for movies and good TV series, is who you'd cast in the movie of The FFL Asylum. Who would play you? Who would play Robin? And most important -- because, after all, none of us would have been committed here if we weren't suffering from terminal narcissism -- who would play me? I'm still drawn to Kevin Spacey, if he's available and willing to grow a beard and put on a few pounds for the role. Physically (even though we all know the physical doesn't really exist) I resemble the before picture of him as Lester Burnham more than I do the after picture. Do they have a gym in the asylum? Gotta start pumpin' up in case this movie goes large, and people from People magazine start coming to the asylum to interview me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: No One Is Paying Any Attention To Me So I'll Suck Up To â¨A Few People Hoping They'll Fall For It And Focus On ME I'm writing this post from the nurse's station in the psychiatric wing of the Betty Ford Centre in Rancho Mirage. In the event the nurse returns, I apologize in advance if my post ends abruptly. As part of my recovery program, I'm not allowed any connection that might allow me to post on FFL or any Internet forum where I could announce my recent ascendance to a higher state of consciousness. My present circumstance began a couple of weeks ago last Saturday when I started using the mantra BIRDIENUMNUM after watching The Party the night before. After one meditation, I began to experience a complete sense of being present and awakeof being here and now---in a place I had always been and therefore could never find. Not unlike a fish that never stops to consider the latest fashion in swimming suits. At first, I felt a great deal of fear and trepidation as I started to entertain the possibly I might have finally become enlightened and wondered if the planet could sustain another realized soul with a heroic capacity for sticking to a narrative no matter what evidence was presented to the contrary. Fortunately, it was not long before I realized that I was not realized since that implied that I was different and since I had always been where I had arrived---I had always been there, and had not gone anywhere that wasn't where I already was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT75Uce6pqc Of course, the realization
[FairfieldLife] Re: New photograph of Saturn
This stunning photograph of Saturn was made on September 15, 2006. It is actually a composite of 165 separate exposures necessary to cover the angle of view and to capture color information through various color filters (as the camera is black and white only for any given exposure). It took three hours to get all the information needed with those 165 shots to produce this image while the Sun was behind Saturn. Saturn is roughly 120,000km in diameter and some 1-1/2 billion kilometers from the Sun, so this image represents some extraordinary planning required to pull it off. Meanwhile back on Earth, I am still coming out from under the effects of (with comparison to storms on Saturn) a tiny tiny storm called Irene. I now have power and water, though some of my acquaintances were supposed to get these back only today. There are still areas nearby where perhaps 1 to 10% of the population still has these 'problems'. There is a certain relaxation and quietness associated with living conditions that are more like those found in the mid-19th century. No phones, no Internet, no movies, no TV. Kind of a mental relaxation, as other chores take a lot more time, such as getting water etc. I did sneak a laptop out occasionally to an area with power and wireless connectivity, but the desire to connect became decidedly low key. Seeing others with their attention glued to their little plastic cases resting in their hands sometimes seemed surreal as I was about to return home in the evening to a dark, powerless abode. Sweet lady Irene gave me an opportunity to experience more deeply how wonderful it can be to not communicate with anyone for a time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: from Cassini probe: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0901/newrings_cassini_big.jpg Now that is cool. I want that image for my company logo.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Nice troll post, Turq. Seriously, both well-crafted to offend almost everyone, and well written in a conversational tone to draw the suckers in. Good job, lil' guy! You can always tell when Barry has been badly stung by a criticism: he ostentatiously makes a bunch of posts that attempt to exhibit the opposite of what he's just been criticized for. Having been pegged as a well-poisoner, his next three posts after the ritual troll post were upbeat and complimentary, one currying favor with Bob, one exclaiming about the new photo of Saturn, and one to Yifu saying how much he always enjoys Yifu's links to old photos and artwork, for the first and only time in the many months Yifu has been posting them. Let's see how quickly he returns to normal. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of colorspaint spray can in hand. Mel and I have a wager on the color of her Victoria Secrets. I've gone with black---no he didn't take redand he doubled down on white. Anti-Semite that he is, old Mel is crafty; white on white fits the sadistic streak we've noticed in her insisting I wear a pink Johnny shirt with my butt showing. She was cheeky enough to ask me; How do you like being covered in pink? Of course this doesn't limit my imagining her in her white Victoria Secrets dancing to a Fosse tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN68ujZdTE I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. ***Couldn't agree more. With my recent exchanges with some of my fellow not realized, realized travelers I realized that the realization that I'm not realized, realized does not preclude the witnessing and execution of a whole range of emotions that could still end life as we know it. Imagine if one or more of my fellow travelers gone their hands on the presidents briefcase or heaven forbid the Agni option in the great nation of India. With the added feature of being able to witness their rage and trepidation there’s no telling how far things could get out of hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPnnPHkIucfeature=related I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. ***The Don't try this at home... caution would have been a big help, but I don't blame you as much as I might blame Emptybill for introducing me to the mantras that really work. I figure he owes me when day pass day comes. Finally, I really appreciate you reserving me a Netflix-enabled bed in the asylum. I look forward to watching X over and over, especially every time Nurse Ratched comes around with my meds. She gets SO angry when she sees women more slim and more attractive than herself, and Viva Bianca is pretty much the queen of both. The films in this basket-weaving exercise may be preordained by Netflix, but the use I put them to is my own weaving. Heh heh. ***I have a feeling you and Nurse Ratched are going to get along just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUG_8jQGvY The only questions I have about your enlightened vision of the FFL Asylum are: 1) there seems to be no bed reserved for Curtis; I can only imagine that he would spice up the group therapy sessions big-time, and 2) you haven't mentioned who picks up the tab at the bar. As you can imagine (having written all of this and still only halfway through a single Westmalle Tripel), the eventual size of the bar bill is of interest to me, and to my health insurance provider. ***I think previous FFL posts they found in my Yahoo account determined the sleeping arrangements. Turns out they are considering inviting Curtis as a guest lecturer. I'm actually a little concerned they might figure out Curtis is more like us than they think and he has an inner child guru wanting to break out and party.
[FairfieldLife] Retro on Stag Mag
This is good but also shows the slide down to the merely mundane skin mag. The early covers are great to see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42145.jpg Just wanted to say that I always enjoy your posts of artworks and photos, Yifu, though I rarely comment on them. This one deserves comment. :-) [http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/42145.jpg] I'm old enough to have seen Stag magazine on the newsstands, although I have no memory of ever having read one. This cover looks like it's from the second incarnation of Stag, which according to Wikipedia focused on ostensibly 'true-life' fiction of men in wartime or in rugged adventure mode. So that means that the adventure depicted in this cover art was considered potentially true-life. The readers could identify with the leather-jacketed hunk about to be locked up in a Nazi prison run by women who looked like the dominatrix babe on the cover , because this was considered a true- life adventure. Now *that* is having an active fantasy life. :-) Before it transitioned to a porn magazine, among the writers who wrote for Stag were Mario Puzo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo , Bruce Jay Friedman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Jay_Friedman , David Markson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Markson , Mickey Spillane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Spillane and Martin Cruz Smith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Cruz_Smith . Those issues must be collectibles these days.
[FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fKfnTt9zg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. Finally, I really appreciate you reserving me a Netflix-enabled bed in the asylum. I look forward to watching X over and over, especially every time Nurse Ratched comes around with my meds. She gets SO angry when she sees women more slim and more attractive than herself, and Viva Bianca is pretty much the queen of both. The films in this basket-weaving exercise may be preordained by Netflix, but the use I put them to is my own weaving. Heh heh. The only questions I have about your enlightened vision of the FFL Asylum are: 1) there seems to be no bed reserved for Curtis; I can only imagine that he would spice up the group therapy sessions big-time, and 2) you haven't mentioned who picks up the tab at the bar. As you can imagine (having written all of this and still only halfway through a single Westmalle Tripel), the eventual size of the bar bill is of interest to me, and to my health insurance provider. Another thing I'm curious about, given your fondness for movies and good TV series, is who you'd cast in the movie of The FFL Asylum. Who would play you? Who would play Robin? And most important -- because, after all, none of us would have been committed here if we weren't suffering from terminal narcissism -- who would play me? I'm still drawn to Kevin Spacey, if he's available and willing to grow a beard and put on a few pounds for the role. Physically (even though we all know the physical doesn't really exist) I resemble the before picture of him as Lester Burnham more than I do the after picture. Do they have a gym in the asylum? Gotta start pumpin' up in case this movie goes large, and people from People magazine start coming to the asylum to interview me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: No One Is Paying Any Attention To Me So I'll Suck Up To â¨A Few People Hoping They'll Fall For It And Focus On ME I'm writing this post from the nurse's station in the psychiatric wing of the Betty Ford Centre in Rancho Mirage. In the event the nurse returns, I apologize in advance if my post ends abruptly. As part of my recovery program, I'm not allowed any connection that might allow me to post on FFL or any Internet forum where I could announce my recent ascendance to a higher state of consciousness. My present circumstance began a couple of weeks ago last Saturday when I started using the mantra BIRDIENUMNUM after watching The Party the night before. After one meditation, I began to experience a complete sense of being present and awakeof being here and now---in a place I had always been and therefore could never find. Not unlike a fish that never stops to consider the latest fashion in swimming suits. At first, I felt a great deal of fear and trepidation as I started to entertain the possibly I might have finally become enlightened and wondered if the planet could sustain another realized soul with a heroic capacity for sticking to a narrative no matter what evidence was presented to the contrary. Fortunately, it was not long before I realized that I was not realized since that implied that I was different and
[FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
How does Bobaji think he has insulted my testonical (new english) masculinity? I am all ears and other dangle-amenities ... A song dedicated to the over Priced treatment center you are visiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgLE--QvTw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of colorspaint spray can in hand. Mel and I have a wager on the color of her Victoria Secrets. I've gone with black---no he didn't take redand he doubled down on white. Anti-Semite that he is, old Mel is crafty; white on white fits the sadistic streak we've noticed in her insisting I wear a pink Johnny shirt with my butt showing. She was cheeky enough to ask me; How do you like being covered in pink? Of course this doesn't limit my imagining her in her white Victoria Secrets dancing to a Fosse tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN68ujZdTE I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. ***Couldn't agree more. With my recent exchanges with some of my fellow not realized, realized travelers I realized that the realization that I'm not realized, realized does not preclude the witnessing and execution of a whole range of emotions that could still end life as we know it. Imagine if one or more of my fellow travelers gone their hands on the presidents briefcase or heaven forbid the Agni option in the great nation of India. With the added feature of being able to witness their rage and trepidation thereâs no telling how far things could get out of hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPnnPHkIucfeature=related I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. ***The Don't try this at home... caution would have been a big help, but I don't blame you as much as I might blame Emptybill for introducing me to the mantras that really work. I figure he owes me when day pass day comes. Finally, I really appreciate you reserving me a Netflix-enabled bed in the asylum. I look forward to watching X over and over, especially every time Nurse Ratched comes around with my meds. She gets SO angry when she sees women more slim and more attractive than herself, and Viva Bianca is pretty much the queen of both. The films in this basket-weaving exercise may be preordained by Netflix, but the use I put them to is my own weaving. Heh heh. ***I have a feeling you and Nurse Ratched are going to get along just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUG_8jQGvY The only questions I have about your enlightened vision of the FFL Asylum are: 1) there seems to be no bed reserved for Curtis; I can only imagine that he would spice up the group therapy sessions big-time, and 2) you haven't mentioned who picks up the tab at the bar. As you can imagine (having written all of this and still only halfway through a single Westmalle Tripel), the eventual size of the bar bill is of
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
* * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
BobaLouie is humbled you have no memory of my less than priceless shot off your bow and far be it from me to push my luck. For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] How does Bobaji think he has insulted my testonical (new english) masculinity? I am all ears and other dangle-amenities ... A song dedicated to the over Priced treatment center you are visiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgLE--QvTw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of colorspaint spray can in hand. Mel and I have a wager on the color of her Victoria Secrets. I've gone with black---no he didn't take redand he doubled down on white. Anti-Semite that he is, old Mel is crafty; white on white fits the sadistic streak we've noticed in her insisting I wear a pink Johnny shirt with my butt showing. She was cheeky enough to ask me; How do you like being covered in pink? Of course this doesn't limit my imagining her in her white Victoria Secrets dancing to a Fosse tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN68ujZdTE I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. ***Couldn't agree more. With my recent exchanges with some of my fellow not realized, realized travelers I realized that the realization that I'm not realized, realized does not preclude the witnessing and execution of a whole range of emotions that could still end life as we know it. Imagine if one or more of my fellow travelers gone their hands on the presidents briefcase or heaven forbid the Agni option in the great nation of India. With the added feature of being able to witness their rage and trepidation there’s no telling how far things could get out of hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPnnPHkIucfeature=related I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. ***The Don't try this at home... caution would have been a big help, but I don't blame you as much as I might blame Emptybill for introducing me to the mantras that really work. I figure he owes me when day pass day comes. Finally, I really appreciate you reserving me a Netflix-enabled bed in the asylum. I look forward to watching X over and over, especially every time Nurse Ratched comes around with my meds. She gets SO angry when she sees women more slim and more attractive than herself, and Viva Bianca is pretty much the queen of both. The films in this basket-weaving exercise may be preordained by Netflix, but the use I put them to is my own weaving. Heh heh. ***I have a feeling you and Nurse Ratched are going to get along just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUG_8jQGvY
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring a person's internal state from what they write. So to create some balance, one has to read opinions pro and con, and that often results in no resolution of the situation either.) There are many surmises as to Turq's inner state, some of which I have imagined myself, but are there any incontrovertible facts? Especially current facts, not things that happened months ago, or years ago? All the posts here can have this effect of stirring our hidden agendas, if such agendas exist, but particularly if they contain attacks on what we think is true, or contain personal attacks. Besides having the various spiritual illusions represented by this group, there are also politically conservative and politically liberal persons here as well. I find it interesting that spiritual growth does not seem to have much effect on political polarisations, even though spiritual growth supposedly gets us closer to truth. As for Turq returning to 'normal': Why should we imagine him to have beliefs and a personality that must remain in a straight-jacket, forever stuck in a certain mindset. It is a convenience, but lazy intellectually to characterise people in a certain way, but perhaps that invites the question of why we would want someone to not have an opportunity to change, to either grow or deteriorate, as the case may be, and gradually or even suddenly become someone we might never had suspected before? And I mean that for everyone here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Xenophaneros, Thank you for this post, I found it an excellent read. I apologize for not addressing your points more specifically, which I hope to do in the future, but I'm running between sessions and I just wanted to let you know how cool i think your writing is and how much I missed you. I was sorry to hear about the damage Irene inflected and hope it has not been too traumatic, you seem like someone practiced at taking it as it comes and making it a it goes. Thought you might enjoy this link: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-bits-advice-that-dont-make-sense-until-its-too-late/ From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:33:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring a person's internal state from what they write. So to create some balance, one has to read opinions pro and con, and that often results in no resolution of the situation either.) There are many surmises as to Turq's inner state, some of which I have imagined myself, but are there any incontrovertible facts? Especially current facts, not things that happened months ago, or years ago? All the posts here can have this effect of stirring our hidden agendas, if such agendas exist, but particularly if they contain attacks on what we think is true, or contain personal attacks. Besides having the various spiritual illusions represented by this group, there are also politically
[FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
If you saw my bald little bumpy head, and my hair shaved from my back all stuck to the sides of the oily bathtub for which I sit, you may think a bit different about me, as I position my anal delight and spray my dysentery ass debris towards your face. I could be humbled, if yes, I have memory, but just in case I do remember...Does this kind of reply satisfy your sexual perversions? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: BobaLouie is humbled you have no memory of my less than priceless shot off your bow and far be it from me to push my luck. For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] How does Bobaji think he has insulted my testonical (new english) masculinity? I am all ears and other dangle-amenities ... A song dedicated to the over Priced treatment center you are visiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgLE--QvTw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of colorspaint spray can in hand.àMel and I have a wager on the color of her Victoria Secrets. I've gone with black---no he didn't take redand he doubled down on white. Anti-Semite that he is, old Mel is crafty; white on white fits the sadistic streak we've noticed in her insisting I wear a pink Johnny shirt with my butt showing. She was cheeky enough to ask me; How do you like being covered in pink? Of course this doesn't limit my imagining her in her white Victoria Secrets dancing to a Fosse tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN68ujZdTE I share your fears whether the planet is ready for another realized, realized being at this point. That might overclock the cosmic CPU that runs the Maharishi Effect, and propel too many slackers into the Age Of Everything The Way We Want It To Be too quickly. Better to let the Laws Of Nature handle the timing of such important phase transitions. ***Couldn't agree more. With my recent exchanges with some of my fellow not realized, realized travelers I realized that the realization that I'm not realized, realized does not preclude the witnessing and execution of a whole range of emotions that could still end life as we know it.àImagine if one or more of my fellow travelers gone their hands on the presidents briefcase or heaven forbid the Agni option in the great nation of India.àWith the added feature of being able to witness their rage and trepidation thereââ¬â¢s no telling how far things could get out of hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPnnPHkIucfeature=related I also humbly apologize if acting out my People Of Color rap got you into hot water with the wife, and led to your incarceration. I really meant to add a caveat saying Don't try this at home...at least not without obtaining prior written consent to paint a woman a different color. I've gone the no prior consent route myself, and as a result have found myself and my spray cans running down an alley, pursued by police. Not a happy situation. Better to be up front about it, and bring it up first in casual conversation over a glass of wine in a picturesque sidewalk cafe, a la, You remind me so much of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi that I wonder if you'd consider letting me paint you blue. That line has worked for me more often than you'd imagine. ***The Don't try this at home... caution would have been a big help, but I don't blame you as much as I might blame Emptybill for introducing me to the mantras that really work. I figure he owes me when day pass day comes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Do any of the following catch your drift? 1. A concept describing those types of human behavior that are a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal. 2. Differs from deviant behavior, since the latter refers to a recognized violation of social rules or norms. 3. The concept of perversion is subjective,and its application varies depending on the individual. Originating in the 1660s a pervert was originally defined as one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate. 4. The verb pervert is less narrow in reference than the related nouns, and may be used with no sexual connotation 5. The sense of a pervert as a sexual term was derived in 1896, and applied originally to variants of sexualities or sexual behavior rejected by the individual who used the term. 6. Is often considered derogatory and in psychological literature the term paraphilia has been used as a replacement, though this term is controversial, and deviation is now used instead by others. 7. The noun sometimes occurs in abbreviated slang form as perv and used as a verb meaning to act like a pervert, and the adjective pervy also occurs. 8. In economics the term perverse incentive means a policy that results in an effect contrary to the policymakers' intention. 9. Where internal controversy did arise in the liberal consensus was about the exact relation of variations to normal development - some considering in the wake of Freud that 'these different sexual orientations can best be explained and understood by comparison with normal development', and highlighting the fear of intimacy in perversion as 'a kind of sex...which is hedged about with special conditions...puts a vast distance between the partners'. 10. From such a standpoint, 'whatever the deviant impulse or fantasy may be, that's where the real, true, loving sexuality is hidden'- a point of transition perhaps to some of the bleaker post-permissive visions of perversion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2ctsCbTMwfeature=related From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:18:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] If you saw my bald little bumpy head, and my hair shaved from my back all stuck to the sides of the oily bathtub for which I sit, you may think a bit different about me, as I position my anal delight and spray my dysentery ass debris towards your face. I could be humbled, if yes, I have memory, but just in case I do remember...Does this kind of reply satisfy your sexual perversions? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: BobaLouie is humbled you have no memory of my less than priceless shot off your bow and far be it from me to push my luck. For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] How does Bobaji think he has insulted my testonical (new english) masculinity? I am all ears and other dangle-amenities ... A song dedicated to the over Priced treatment center you are visiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgLE--QvTw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of colorspaint spray can in hand. Mel and I have a wager on the color of her Victoria Secrets. I've gone with black---no he didn't take redand he doubled down on white. Anti-Semite that he is, old Mel is crafty; white on white fits the sadistic streak we've noticed in her insisting I wear a pink Johnny shirt with my butt showing. She was cheeky enough
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? Its a pattern. Judy has been on forums with this guy for a long, long time, and this is what he does. I don't see Judy closing the door on Barry's future behavior, though she is mocking his consistency re: returning to bastardhood. It is rhythmic, bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastard-bastard-nice. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring a person's internal state from what they write. So to create some balance, one has to read opinions pro and con, and that often results in no resolution of the situation either.) There are many surmises as to Turq's inner state, some of which I have imagined myself, but are there any incontrovertible facts? Especially current facts, not things that happened months ago, or years ago? All the posts here can have this effect of stirring our hidden agendas, if such agendas exist, but particularly if they contain attacks on what we think is true, or contain personal attacks. Besides having the various spiritual illusions represented by this group, there are also politically conservative and politically liberal persons here as well. I find it interesting that spiritual
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
About a week ago, with a little extra time, I watched Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ for the first time. (on youtube). Based on all I had heard, I was expecting something moving. But, I thought it was poorly acted, unmoving, quite boring, with an almost complete emphasis on gore. I don't understand how it got any traction, or critical acclaim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? Its a pattern. Judy has been on forums with this guy for a long, long time, and this is what he does. I don't see Judy closing the door on Barry's future behavior, though she is mocking his consistency re: returning to bastardhood. It is rhythmic, bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastar\ d-bastard-nice. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring a person's internal state from what they write. So to create some balance, one has to read opinions pro and con, and that often results in no resolution of the situation either.) There are many surmises as to Turq's inner state, some of which I have imagined myself, but are there any incontrovertible facts? Especially current facts, not things that happened months ago, or years ago? All the posts here can have this effect of
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
I had the same thing to say. Xeno what you have to say clearly reflects your personality and I take offense that you would project your laudable intentions on someone as emotionally damaged as Barry. Judy is spot on. I was under the naive impression like you that may be Barry can self-reflect, I got deceived by some of his nice posts as well. The pattern she describes is spot on. You are seriously underestimating Judy's skills. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? Its a pattern. Judy has been on forums with this guy for a long, long time, and this is what he does. I don't see Judy closing the door on Barry's future behavior, though she is mocking his consistency re: returning to bastardhood. It is rhythmic, bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastard-bastard-nice-bastard-bastard-bastard-nice. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring a person's internal state from what they write. So to create some balance, one has to read opinions pro and con, and that often results in no resolution of the situation either.) There are
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Since this seems to be an ongoing thing, back to the post that nails it most accurately: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. That's really it. Ravi, too. My sin is that I won't give them any attention and allow them to suck me into an argument so that they can spew their venom at me. And the more I ignore them, and the more that their attempts *to* suck me into arguments fail, the more obsessive and the more pissed off they seem to get. Was I right on by calling this syndrome attention vampirism, or what? They're all acting like vampires who haven't been able to feed for some time, and are starting to starve.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Dear PaliGap, I would never try to enter into a discussion or debate about the problem of reconciling the existence of God with the reality of evil. If no one (on God's side) had ever done this, I might venture some ideas of my own. But anything I might say by way of defence of God, or in proof of his existence despite the fact of evil, has already been saidprobably 100 trillion words have been devoted to this subject (just a wild estimate there). And nothing has been proven by this. The problem of evil intrinsically defeats the human mind. But I will say a few things that perhaps have not been said (or at least I think that haven't been said before). Your very capacity to make the determinations and judgments you make in this post (directed towards me) calls out for an explanation. The process by which you can contemplate the problem of God's existence, giving powerful arguments against his existence, this, I considerintuitively at leastthe best proof of God there is. Consider that God does not really exist; there is only physical, blind, purposeless, random physicality. The kind of order and precision and intelligence required for you to make the reflections and discernments you have made (in this post) argues against anything but the existence of some simple intelligence of loving goodness which caused you to be able to do this. The atheist, in my way of thinking about these things, is a greater proof of God than the theist, because he/she possesses the capacity to meaningfully and honestly and convincingly reject the idea of a Creator. And who is this atheist? what does he amount to? Well, he honours and respects an intelligence and consciousness which he is not the creator ofhis own. How can nature, evolution, impersonal physical particles acquire the dignity, the complexity, the self-consciousness, the *confidence* capable of this astounding act? It is more like the atheist is standing in for God, and pronouncing upon the truth of whether God exists or not. This seems to me quite incredible and marvellous. You see, PaliGap, it is as if the atheist iswithout realizing thisimagining himself as God. And then rejecting that he exists, not realizing in doing so that he is essentially discounting the basis of his own existence. Do we hear only physical particles talking here? Or do we hear and experience a person talking? [And don't forget: you expressed appreciation for that GMH quote some time back.] There is a kind of self-apotheosis in becoming a devout atheistor someone, at least, who finds strong and persuasive evidence (as you have) against the existence of God (at least a God who is perfectly loving, all-powerful, all-knowing, and *omnisubjective*). I like to think of this as the grace of the atheist*provided to him by his Creator*. After all, if God does exist (or rather *did* exist), isn't it interesting and imaginative of him to allow what he created to doubt, to reject his existence? This again, from this angle, permits me to believe that God exists (*did* existsomewhere, in some form, *still* exists), because he allows this kind of supreme freedom: I created you, but I will permit you to reach the conviction that I, who created you, *do not exist*. Believing in God is a simple thing, it seems. Disbelieving in Godif one has arrived at this position through some strenuous and serious intellectual effort and exerciseseems a much more, humanly considered, noble and extraordinary and even heroic thing. Because (like Camus as you say) it fully taxes the purely individual, existential, capacity of a human being. For methinking across history before I was bornit always seems to me that if one is a theist, and that theism is supposed to be congruent with reality (i.e. God is behind that belief, supports that belief, is ultimately the originator of that belief), then alwaysin every casethe theist is making (he must be making) more contact with reality than the atheistwho, according to my hypothesisrepresents an ultimate irony: he is being allowed to disbelieve in the existence of what is making him, right in that moment, capable of thinking that God does not exist. No, the believer in God must produce (even if he self-consciously has nothing to do with this) the evidence that his own apprehension of the universe is somehow closer to the way things actually are than is the atheist's apprehension of the universe. It's pretty simple: if you, PaliGap really existand you are my creator and the creator of the entire universethen my believing that you exist somehow, to be operationally valid, must be inspired by you, PaliGap. And that intimate connection whereby you bestow upon me belief in your existence, and belief therefore that you created me, must amount to something more real, more compelling, than in the instance of the person who does not believe that PaliGap exists. For the most sensitive persons, this evidence
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Since this seems to be an ongoing thing, back to the post that nails it most accurately: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. That's really it. Ravi, too. My sin is that I won't give them any attention and allow them to suck me into an argument so that they can spew their venom at me. And the more I ignore them, and the more that their attempts *to* suck me into arguments fail, the more obsessive and the more pissed off they seem to get. Was I right on by calling this syndrome attention vampirism, or what? They're all acting like vampires who haven't been able to feed for some time, and are starting to starve. RESPONSE: You are absolutely wrong in this.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Only took three nice posts before he had to go back to bastard. ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Since this seems to be an ongoing thing, back to the post that nails it most accurately: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. As I pointed out to Stupid Sal, Barry does just as much piling on as anybody else, if not more (the post I'm responding to being an example). That's really it. Ravi, too. My sin is that I won't give them any attention and allow them to suck me into an argument so that they can spew their venom at me. Says Barry, not giving us any attention. ;-) Barry, we don't *need* you to argue with us. We can spew our venom at you just fine without your participation, just as you have no problem spewing your venom at us without our participation. And the more I ignore them, and the more that their attempts *to* suck me into arguments fail, the more obsessive and the more pissed off they seem to get. No, that's your fantasy. It isn't borne out by the traffic. Our criticism of you has *nothing* to do with your refraining from arguing. Nothing. It has to do with your persistent all-around nastiness and hypocrisy. Was I right on by calling this syndrome attention vampirism, or what? They're all acting like vampires who haven't been able to feed for some time, and are starting to starve. Nope. Your fantasy, again. It's obvious that you desperately *need* to maintain this fantasy. You also hope that somehow voicing it will intimidate us into not criticizing you. But it doesn't work, never has, as many times as you've used it. As I've pointed out before, if you don't want to be criticized, *stop doing* what you're being criticized for. One might even suggest that your relentless unpleasantness is designed to *provoke* criticism, because you don't have as much success as you crave getting attention any other way. If anybody here on FFL is an attention vampire, it's you.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: About a week ago, with a little extra time, I watched Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ for the first time. (on youtube). Based on all I had heard, I was expecting something moving. But, I thought it was poorly acted, unmoving, quite boring, with an almost complete emphasis on gore. I don't understand how it got any traction, or critical acclaim. Dear Steve, I understand, appreciate, and respect this adjudication of The Passion of the Christ. I only sayand I doubt I will have single taker on FFL in thisthat my own experience of viewing this film, was to witness what actually happened when Christ was crucified. Or rather, as close to it as it is possible to get to this historical event, after the fact, after the death of the inner vitality of Roman Catholicism. I have referred in many of my previous posts to the experience I have of sensing a very different metaphysic which governed the world before I was born. A metaphysic which made belief in Godand even in his Churchsomething very real and consequential. The present world does not (to me) present the same metaphysical context as that previous (before the Second World War) world did. The saints (Catholic) sound believable *inside the time-space-caustion context* within which they lived. They do not compel us with their spiritual convictions as played off inside this world. The ontological acoustic has changed. To believe in what the saints did nowadays requires a certain arbitrariness and even mystical sentimentalitybecause such a belief goes against the grain of the way the universe isnow. But what Mel Gibson did (by the way, he cast a Jewish actor as Mary) was to (I can't fathom how he did this: perhaps some grace from that older world came into him?) create a context which, in my experience, faithfully represented the context within which this event actually happened. That it was horrifying, gory, repulsive, extreme is only to say: that's how it (Christ's crucifixion) really was. For me it was a movie outside of time and spacethat is, outside of our time and space. Again, I think your judgment a true and honest one. And probably the unanimous judgment of everyone at FFL. For me, it was a real miracle. And Jim Caviezel as Christ was the only actor I have ever seen in this role who was believable. No, God liked this production. I, I loved it. That said, I would be surprised if you had any other reaction to it than the one you have expressed in this post. I think your response a normal and appropriate one. For me, it was the most extraordinary movie I have ever seen. Robin
[FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Um yeah. Very educated cut and past for a lawn gnome. ; ) I found you (zoom effects give a more direct local view.)here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWLG3IuMrUA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Do any of the following catch your drift? 1. A concept describing those types of human behavior that are a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal. 2. Differs from deviant behavior, since the latter refers to a recognized violation of social rules or norms. 3. The concept of perversion is subjective,and its application varies depending on the individual. Originating in the 1660s a pervert was originally defined as one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate. 4. The verb pervert is less narrow in reference than the related nouns, and may be used with no sexual connotation 5. The sense of a pervert as a sexual term was derived in 1896, and applied originally to variants of sexualities or sexual behavior rejected by the individual who used the term. 6. Is often considered derogatory and in psychological literature the term paraphilia has been used as a replacement, though this term is controversial, and deviation is now used instead by others. 7. The noun sometimes occurs in abbreviated slang form as perv and used as a verb meaning to act like a pervert, and the adjective pervy also occurs. 8. In economics the term perverse incentive means a policy that results in an effect contrary to the policymakers' intention. 9. Where internal controversy did arise in the liberal consensus was about the exact relation of variations to normal development - some considering in the wake of Freud that 'these different sexual orientations can best be explained and understood by comparison with normal development', and highlighting the fear of intimacy in perversion as 'a kind of sex...which is hedged about with special conditions...puts a vast distance between the partners'. 10. From such a standpoint, 'whatever the deviant impulse or fantasy may be, that's where the real, true, loving sexuality is hidden'- a point of transition perhaps to some of the bleaker post-permissive visions of perversion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2ctsCbTMwfeature=related From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:18:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] If you saw my bald little bumpy head, and my hair shaved from my back all stuck to the sides of the oily bathtub for which I sit, you may think a bit different about me, as I position my anal delight and spray my dysentery ass debris towards your face. I could be humbled, if yes, I have memory, but just in case I do remember...Does this kind of reply satisfy your sexual perversions? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: BobaLouie is humbled you have no memory of my less than priceless shot off your bow and far be it from me to push my luck. For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] How does Bobaji think he has insulted my testonical (new english) masculinity? I am all ears and other dangle-amenities ... A song dedicated to the over Priced treatment center you are visiting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgLE--QvTw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Turq, As always, great to read your post. More below. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:53:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The FFL Asylum [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Bob, I was busy on other projects when your first post in this laudable series appeared, and thus wasn't able to comment. I shall belatedly do so, if for no other reason than to applaud your attempt to get people to focus on you by writing something creative. As opposed to the other approaches, you understand -- whining, pleading, insults, ad hominem, demonization, etc. -- all of which leave me kinda cold. Plus, you deserve commendation for sneaking past Nurse Ratched and announcing your ascendency to a higher state of consciousness, despite her rules. ***It's interesting you mentioned our nurse who oddly enough Mel nicknamed Nurse Ratched. She's the type of woman whose many gifts make it more than easy to fantasize about her with her clothes off, in any number of
[FairfieldLife] #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprob...@terra.com.br
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Barry opined, My sin is that I won't give them any attention and allow them to suck me into an argument so that they can spew their venom at me. And you are...the Pope, perhaps? Such a martyr sometimes Barry. The passage almost sounds scriptural in its purity, pitting the evildoers spewing their venom at virtuous, pious Barry, who's only sin is to discriminate in his ministrations to the unwashed. I usually think of myself as a reasonably perceptive person, but I must confess through the hundreds of posts of yours I've read, I missed this other side of you completely.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Since this seems to be an ongoing thing, back to the post that nails it most accurately: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Jim, Judy and now, it appears, Robin, can't get Barry to engage in their childishness, so instead they have to go at him indirectly, insulting him amongst themselves. That's really it. Ravi, too. My sin is that I won't give them any attention and allow them to suck me into an argument so that they can spew their venom at me. And the more I ignore them, and the more that their attempts *to* suck me into arguments fail, the more obsessive and the more pissed off they seem to get. Was I right on by calling this syndrome attention vampirism, or what? They're all acting like vampires who haven't been able to feed for some time, and are starting to starve.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Thank you for your reply. I must be in denial. Maybe because of my religious affiliation. But, I don't think so, because my wife is a devout Catholic and she was also unmoved by it when she saw it (when it came out). I say I must be in denial because I thought the gore was simply gratutious. But you seem to indicate that it was probably in line with how those events took place. For one, I am not sure how a body could withstand the torture it endured here without dying. But that seemed to be the case. And I've got to say that I thought James Calviezel's portrayal of Jesus before the passion, or agony was quite hollow. And then his depiction during the passion, which was about 90% of the movie was mostly grunts and sighs. I just didn't find it convincing, or moving. But perhaps you are onto something, because, as I recall, the movie did over $800,000 million at the box office. I thought the depiction of the devil was stand out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: About a week ago, with a little extra time, I watched Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ for the first time. (on youtube). Based on all I had heard, I was expecting something moving. But, I thought it was poorly acted, unmoving, quite boring, with an almost complete emphasis on gore. I don't understand how it got any traction, or critical acclaim. Dear Steve, I understand, appreciate, and respect this adjudication of The Passion of the Christ. I only sayand I doubt I will have single taker on FFL in thisthat my own experience of viewing this film, was to witness what actually happened when Christ was crucified. Or rather, as close to it as it is possible to get to this historical event, after the fact, after the death of the inner vitality of Roman Catholicism. I have referred in many of my previous posts to the experience I have of sensing a very different metaphysic which governed the world before I was born. A metaphysic which made belief in Godand even in his Churchsomething very real and consequential. The present world does not (to me) present the same metaphysical context as that previous (before the Second World War) world did. The saints (Catholic) sound believable *inside the time-space-caustion context* within which they lived. They do not compel us with their spiritual convictions as played off inside this world. The ontological acoustic has changed. To believe in what the saints did nowadays requires a certain arbitrariness and even mystical sentimentalitybecause such a belief goes against the grain of the way the universe isnow. But what Mel Gibson did (by the way, he cast a Jewish actor as Mary) was to (I can't fathom how he did this: perhaps some grace from that older world came into him?) create a context which, in my experience, faithfully represented the context within which this event actually happened. That it was horrifying, gory, repulsive, extreme is only to say: that's how it (Christ's crucifixion) really was. For me it was a movie outside of time and spacethat is, outside of our time and space. Again, I think your judgment a true and honest one. And probably the unanimous judgment of everyone at FFL. For me, it was a real miracle. And Jim Caviezel as Christ was the only actor I have ever seen in this role who was believable. No, God liked this production. I, I loved it. That said, I would be surprised if you had any other reaction to it than the one you have expressed in this post. I think your response a normal and appropriate one. For me, it was the most extraordinary movie I have ever seen. Robin
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Thanks. I enjoyed the blog post, though I am a long way from being a teenager. As Mark Twain supposedly said: 'When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.' This quote is on the wall of the library he started over in Connecticut near where his last home was, though he may never have said this, the quote is thought to be apocryphal (according to snopes.com). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Xenophaneros, Thank you for this post, I found it an excellent read. I apologize for not addressing your points more specifically, which I hope to do in the future, but I'm running between sessions and I just wanted to let you know how cool i think your writing is and how much I missed you. I was sorry to hear about the damage Irene inflected and hope it has not been too traumatic, you seem like someone practiced at taking it as it comes and making it a it goes. Thought you might enjoy this link: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-bits-advice-that-dont-make-sense-until-its-too-late/ From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:33:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy] Having indulged, without much success, in attempting to characterise peoples' inner life and experience by observation of their outer character, and on FFL, primarily by what and when they write, I find it difficult how one can generate so much information by this process, which would seem fraught with potential error. Supposedly, on a spiritual forum, we are all 'evolving' somehow, leaving the past behind. Human memory is very fallible, and neuroscience has been demonstrating recently that each time we remember something, we are basically rewriting the memory, and that those memories modify each time they are re-written - shift and change as a result of current circumstances, so that in time the memory is often different from what actually transpired (as perhaps could be recorded by video). So we end up with a distorted rut in our mind about those past occurrences. So how do we know that 1. Turq was stung by recent posts? 2. That he was in fact, 'badly' stung, rather than just merely stung to a lesser degree? 3. That he has changed his behaviour as a result? 4. That he is just playing nice? (even total bastards sometimes can be naturally nice). Maybe he is just pretending to be nice; maybe he is having a really good day. I do not know Turq, but I can imagine him being nice, but I can't know if that or its opposite is true based on his posts here. Posts here often play off of what someone else has written before, and the character of that previous post might determine the response one might dream up. Correlation is not causation. If Turq writes, as he says, just for the fun of it, I can consider this as very possibly a 'true' statement, then coming to conclusions about what he is feeling on that basis would seem to be hypothesising to the nth degree. If Turq has even a reasonable degree of spiritual progress in his life, even if it is stalled now for some unknown reason, the likely-hood he would be even upset by what people say here would be remote. Turq is quite good a provocation. I did an experiment. I took one of his posts and removed all the asterisks and quotation marks, and it read kind of academically compared to the original version. I call these emphasises he puts in emotibombs, because they seem designed to incite an emotional response. As such he is providing a means for us to notice how we react mechanically to a given scenario, how our intellectual constructs are tied to our emotional quirks; whether they serve us or undermine us. Emotion, and the consequent lack of rationality that often pertains to emotional states are subtly tied to our intellectual life. For example, persons with certain types of brain damage that eliminates emotional responses to situations have a terrible time making decisions. The connexion between our supposed rational thought and emotion is often not noticed, and when we think we are being fully rational, the opposite can clearly be the case. One might note that Turq's posts, for all their provocative qualities, are actually rather emotionally cool, pretty much like a crowbar mechanically being used to lift up a rock to see what is festering under it. One only need read the opinions section of newspapers to appreciate this where one's like or dislike is expressed concerning a specific situation. Turq's post generally are not like this. (Of course here, I may be making the mistake of inferring
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Thanks Rory! I can use a good crucifixion now and again. Keeps things on the up and up. Starting from scratch, so to speak, after hitting the nail on the head several times.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
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[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
* * Yea, verily, Jim! There's nothing like a good crucifixion to bring us back to the zero-point, the nothingness from which everything flows. For verily, verily, unless our inner Sun is eclipsed and the temple veil of our egoic body is rent, spilling ourselves out once and for ever into All That Is, how can we surrender wholly into the utter perfection of God? For it is written, no one shall see the face of God and live, and also, in that One who personifies the crucifixion I die daily :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Thanks Rory! I can use a good crucifixion now and again. Keeps things on the up and up. Starting from scratch, so to speak, after hitting the nail on the head several times.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
On 09/10/2011 02:55 PM, Paulo Barbosa wrote: Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprob...@terra.com.br Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Yeah, I always liked, I die daily. Beautiful! What could be better than surrendering every fear, anxiety, love and hope to God? Its like, OK Big Fella, do me right!, and He (Vishnu for the time being) always comes through with at least a power of ten over expectations.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: * * Yea, verily, Jim! There's nothing like a good crucifixion to bring us back to the zero-point, the nothingness from which everything flows. For verily, verily, unless our inner Sun is eclipsed and the temple veil of our egoic body is rent, spilling ourselves out once and for ever into All That Is, how can we surrender wholly into the utter perfection of God? For it is written, no one shall see the face of God and live, and also, in that One who personifies the crucifixion I die daily :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Thanks Rory! I can use a good crucifixion now and again. Keeps things on the up and up. Starting from scratch, so to speak, after hitting the nail on the head several times.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
Good Lord! Don't you know God when you look up and see Him? http://www.wga.hu/tours/sistina/index1.html http://www.wga.hu/tours/sistina/index1.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
The personification is just to get closer to the essence of God, or his personal rep we are most drawn to. Its all yadda yadda illusion, but somehow it works! Blossoms into Unity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 09/10/2011 02:55 PM, Paulo Barbosa wrote: Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprobert@... Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 09/10/2011 02:55 PM, Paulo Barbosa wrote: Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprobert@... Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary. Amen. Sorta. ;-) Actually the concept of Brahman is rather ancient... Thing is, folks don't necessarily actively personify God; some of them have very vivid, spontaneous experiences of a God-person. What do you tell them? I'm inclined to suspect that what they're experiencing is Brahman, but through their own personhood, so that Brahman takes on personal qualities. Don't know, though. Just a guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
I've been inclined for awhile to have spontaneous interactions with saints and gods, one at a time. Very specific. If it is Shiva, He is unmistakable, much as if you were hugging your dad, you wouldn't sense that it was someone else. Same with Vishnu, and Krishna, and Saraswati. All go back a long way - each distinct. It is a very enjoyable and divine side show, so I'll continue to track it as it unfolds. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 09/10/2011 02:55 PM, Paulo Barbosa wrote: Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprobert@ Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary. Amen. Sorta. ;-) Actually the concept of Brahman is rather ancient... Thing is, folks don't necessarily actively personify God; some of them have very vivid, spontaneous experiences of a God-person. What do you tell them? I'm inclined to suspect that what they're experiencing is Brahman, but through their own personhood, so that Brahman takes on personal qualities. Don't know, though. Just a guess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think about this: Good is to talk about God things
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Only with duality that there is joy and celebration, an awakened one certainly relishes this duality with playful indulgence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, J F whynotnow7@... wrote: I've been inclined for awhile to have spontaneous interactions with saints and gods, one at a time. Very specific. If it is Shiva, He is unmistakable, much as if you were hugging your dad, you wouldn't sense that it was someone else. Same with Vishnu, and Krishna, and Saraswati. All go back a long way - each distinct. It is a very enjoyable and divine side show, so I'll continue to track it as it unfolds. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 09/10/2011 02:55 PM, Paulo Barbosa wrote: Think about this: Good is to talk about God things It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night (Psalms 92:1, 2). Do you praise God and tal about Him allways? Paulo Barbosa tprobert@ Ever thought about God as being everything that has ever, is and will be? The underlying glue and structure that maintains the universe and universes and the immutable laws that formulate such structures? Celebrate it as you will but there is no need for personification as a magic man in the sky who micromanages everything. Such devices were used in ancient times to explain the phenomenon to simple people who had no education. In this day in age it is not necessary. Amen. Sorta. ;-) Actually the concept of Brahman is rather ancient... Thing is, folks don't necessarily actively personify God; some of them have very vivid, spontaneous experiences of a God-person. What do you tell them? I'm inclined to suspect that what they're experiencing is Brahman, but through their own personhood, so that Brahman takes on personal qualities. Don't know, though. Just a guess.
[FairfieldLife] construction Beej mantras
hello .. Anyone know any books on construction Beej mantras example om aim klim Hrim krim kalakaye namah? how to build the mantra? I looked on amazon, but I lost the link
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hugest obstacle to all siddhis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: pratyuuhaH sarvasiddhiinaam* uttaapaH prathamaH kila. Judit T�rzs�k's translation: The first and foremost obstacle to all success is the heat of overenthusiasm. * genitive(aka possessive) plural from sarvasiddhi_s: all the siddhi_s. Sounds about right to me. L
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Damn Rory, when you choose to stay in one lane, or should I say one plane, you can make a darn funny post. Fun stuff. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Very laudable indeed, Sir! Your most economical choice of only three nails, albeit almost certainly less comfortable, would represent a savings of XXV per centum to the Empire. Since you so clearly uphold the greater good, you could not possibly be the selfish, narcissistic insurrectionist your detractors have claimed you to be. Enough Pontificating -- I wash my hands of the entire affair, and declare you now and forever a Free Man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Three works, and right side up please! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * Don't mind if I do, Jim! Which would you prefer -- three nails or four? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn Rory - Nail me to a cross! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: Ravi, not to worryI am well-aware that I do not have the IQ or creative skill-set needed to maintain a heady riff with the experts on this site..I disassociate when necessary. This should be fairly evident by now.  I jump in here and there when my neurons connect in a moment of spontaneous thought - not original thought, just spontaneous. Mostly, the posts on this forum (those that I actually fathom on any level) entertain and inform me greatly - and for this I am grateful, as I see myself as a bit of an energy vampire at this moment in my life, and I know that I really don't belong here amongst the shining stars of enlightened diction. * * Well said, Denise; being without the three gunas, we really don't belong anywhere. The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the [Daughter] of [Wo]Man has no place to lay [Her] head. For the heartbreaking beauty of it all is this: when the rug is yanked out from beneath our feet once and for all, we hang in freefall forever here and now, suspended alone, all-one, forever amidst the ever-singing stars. And so in apparently belonging nowhere, we really belong now here, and now here belongs heartfully to us, for we are not of them, but they are of us. And those galaxies of ever-murmuring shining stars are nothing but our childish thoughts, who nourished by our soma-milk, feed vampire-like upon our love, and hang a-tremble on our softest breath -- the beauty of our body and our blood. :-)
