[FairfieldLife] Re: !Gambling is Now Okay in the Domes!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
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> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's shocking, it is so without spiritual discipline and order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bingo is coming next?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, c'mon Buck, the other two gunas need some lovin' too!
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >   That all meditators, both old and young be careful not to Imatate the
> > > > vain Fashions of the World in wearing their hatts set up on three sides
> > > > (with Ribins broads or Bunched) nor powder the hair to be seen, nor are
> > > > thee Neck cloath Long hanging down or twisted through the Button holes;
> > > > nor bigg superfluous, or superfluity of holes, nor bigg Buttonholes, or
> > > > places wrought in Imatation of holes, nor cross Pocketts, nor Capes on
> > > > their Coates. Nor wide Laped Sleaves, nor gathered Skirts, drawn in
> > > > Foulds like the vain practice of the world. Nor unsutable linings of
> > > > Gaudy Coulors, nor the Breeches too Strait, nor bigg Unbecoming
> > > > Shubauckles.
> > > > -BuckObviously one of the few conservative meditators on this blog.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I wear lots of vainly fashionable designer clothes, so I guess I'm going 
> > > to hell. Good thing for me, though, is that several pairs of my shoes are 
> > > Prada. The Devil wears Prada, which means I must be the Devil. So, while 
> > > I may be going to hell, at least I'll be the one in charge.
> > >
> > 
> > As a conservative meditator I worry for the teaching in their hands.  Not 
> > just the money-changing.  The Airs.  Om those robes and high crowns sitting 
> > in stuffed chairs and their women in saris attending them.   Grown men 
> > seriously in costume on stage and their western women arrayed in saris is 
> > mighty clearly a cultism.
> >
> 
> Airs and 
> These same people think that someone going to sit with a saint somewhere 
> would be confusing?
>

In pride and robes of honor shine.
(fugue)
But oh, their end,
 

[FairfieldLife] Lust to be Good

[John]

Richard Dawkins explains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAPnKmXNPDM&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Yagya

[John]

This ceremony reminds me of the one I attended in Sunnyvale, CA about two years 
ago.  I was wondering why this lady whom I knew requested for this offering.  
Later, I found out that she had changed her career and moved to Oklahoma as a 
marketing consultant.  Recently, she sent me an email saying that she is in 
Texas now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxlTtyeajDw&feature=g-vrec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:

> Shankara and his disciples found a hidden cave for Shankara to perform his 
> kaya-pravesh, entering of another's body, which he had learned how to do in 
> his youth. He went into deep meditation, and one by one shut down all of his 
> bodily functions until he, too, was no more than a corpse. Two disciples sat 
> in the cave and protected the vulnerable body of their master, while he did 
> his "work," for he would need to return to his own body later.

ME:
Yeah, wasn't it because he was debating a householder king and needed a year of 
householder experience to win?  He spent the year banging some guy's wife if I 
remember it correctly and came back and won the debate.  (Talk about using a 
phone-a-friend option!)

Funnily enough I also learned how to enter someone else's body in my youth as 
well. I remember there was this "bad" orphan kid in our neighborhood who lived 
with his Grandmother who literally ran away and joined the carnival (Circ du 
soleil it was NOT) when he was 17 (actually had a mustache!) or so.  He 
described to us how he had survived traveling around with these carny types.  
There were many stories and unless he was a brilliant writer, he actually lived 
it.  (Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, I'm going with lived it.)  

Anyway the most amazing story he told was about how the rest of the carny 
workers chipped in to pay him to service the fat lady.  (I am not being un PC 
here, it was her job and she was billed as the fat lady.  It was sort of a rite 
of passage for young bucks on the road on their first tour of duty to go though 
this initiation and he was paid handsomely for his trouble.  It was the fist 
time I actually heard how you can enter another person, and the knowledge 
serves me well to this day. It turns out it wasn't so bad for the kid (scarred 
for life) the woman appreciated his enthusiastic efforts, and the crew got 
their money's worth in months of good natured (or nasty put downs who knows?) 
ribbing for months afterward. All in the spirit of carrying on the tradition of 
the traveling carnival rite of passage.  

So Shankara and I have a lot in common...well maybe just this one thing.





>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> > pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to 
> > see if they edited the material at all from the original.
> > 
> > I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on 
> > vacation with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the 
> > book as an excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my 
> > parents at age 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and 
> > am sure he didn't.
> > 
> > It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> > started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> > book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi 
> > stuff box.
> > 
> > I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> > did Hermit in the House. 
> > 
> > When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> > talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> > stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can 
> > continue your yoga. 
> Shankara and his disciples found a hidden cave for Shankara to perform his 
> kaya-pravesh, entering of another's body, which he had learned how to do in 
> his youth. He went into deep meditation, and one by one shut down all of his 
> bodily functions until he, too, was no more than a corpse. Two disciples sat 
> in the cave and protected the vulnerable body of their master, while he did 
> his "work," for he would need to return to his own body later
>  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present today including 
> his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would be nice if they were more 
> honest about his actual teaching and how it progressed through his life, 
> published it all and let people choose for themselves what they think.  I 
> have no skin in the game now but if I was still involved I would be really 
> pissed to still be denied access to his full teaching.
> > 
> > Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> > sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did 
> > not appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before 
> > starting, I do remember that!
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > > This beaut

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of TM Gala with Degeneres and Brand

[John]

Since she is wealthy, learning the various TM techniques should be easy for 
her.  Can anyone imagine her doing the flying sutra and actually levitate?  
That would be a big hit for the TMO.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Video of TM Gala Event with Ellen Degeneres and Russell Brand:
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralXpMsoG-k
> 
> &feature=player_embedded
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[emptybill]

I work with four of them. Two are brothers- one a light skin tone and
the other slighty darker skin tone. The others (a mother and her
daughter) are light ... one very light complexion, lighter than me (even
with good German stock).

I've meet blonde Iranians, also, so no generalizations work with them.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus"
 wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Spy drone captured by foreign country...
> > >
> obbajeeba:
> > All the more reason to go and kill more brown people?
> >
> Iranians are not 'brown people', they are Indo Europeans.
> The majority of modern Iranians actually descend from the
> Medes, who formed the bulk of the peoples of ancient
> Persia, originally from the Caucasus mountains.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[shukra69]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to see 
> if they edited the material at all from the original.
> 
> I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on vacation 
> with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the book as an 
> excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my parents at age 
> 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and am sure he didn't.
> 
> It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi stuff 
> box.
> 
> I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> did Hermit in the House. 
> 
> When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can continue 
> your yoga. 
Shankara and his disciples found a hidden cave for Shankara to perform his 
kaya-pravesh, entering of another's body, which he had learned how to do in his 
youth. He went into deep meditation, and one by one shut down all of his bodily 
functions until he, too, was no more than a corpse. Two disciples sat in the 
cave and protected the vulnerable body of their master, while he did his 
"work," for he would need to return to his own body later
 It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present today including 
his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would be nice if they were more 
honest about his actual teaching and how it progressed through his life, 
published it all and let people choose for themselves what they think.  I have 
no skin in the game now but if I was still involved I would be really pissed to 
still be denied access to his full teaching.
> 
> Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did not 
> appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before starting, 
> I do remember that!
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> > on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> > 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> > Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> > his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> > Topics Include:
> > How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> > The Cure for Suffering
> > The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> > Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> > The Development of Higher Consciousness
> > Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> > The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> > Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> > On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> > Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> > The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> > "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> > increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
> > and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
> > to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> > peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> > All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
> > endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
> > man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
> > wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
> > birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
> > Price: $19.95
> > 
> > Item# TMQA
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[shukra69]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to see 
> if they edited the material at all from the original.
> 
> I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on vacation 
> with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the book as an 
> excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my parents at age 
> 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and am sure he didn't.
> 
> It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi stuff 
> box.
> 
> I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> did Hermit in the House. 
> 
> When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can continue 
> your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present 
> today including his wacky two nervous systems ideas. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system
It is classically divided into two subsystems: the parasympathetic nervous 
system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS).[1][2] Relatively recently, 
a third subsystem of neurons that have been named 'non-adrenergic and 
non-cholinergic' neurons (because they use nitric oxide as a neurotransmitter) 
have been described and found to be integral in autonomic function, 
particularly in the gut and the lungs.[3]

With regard to function, the ANS is usually divided into sensory (afferent) and 
motor (efferent) subsystems. Within these systems, however, there are 
inhibitory and excitatory synapses between neurons.


 But it would be nice if they were more honest about his actual teaching and 
how it progressed through his life, published it all and let people choose for 
themselves what they think.  I have no skin in the game now but if I was still 
involved I would be really pissed to still be denied access to his full 
teaching.
> 
> Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did not 
> appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before starting, 
> I do remember that!
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> > on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> > 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> > Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> > his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> > Topics Include:
> > How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> > The Cure for Suffering
> > The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> > Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> > The Development of Higher Consciousness
> > Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> > The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> > Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> > On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> > Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> > The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> > "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> > increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
> > and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
> > to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> > peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> > All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
> > endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
> > man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
> > wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
> > birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
> > Price: $19.95
> > 
> > Item# TMQA
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > > ===
> > > Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011
> > > End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 10 00:00:00 2011
> > > 789 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 09 00:13:30 2011
> > > 
> > > 52 whynotnow7 
> > 
> > Ruh-roh!
> >
> 
> Mr. Moderator; As a point of rare privilege I wish to yield two of
> my remaining posts for this week to our distinguished colleague and
> enlightened writer from the great Golden State, Whynotnow7.  Please
> take two off my total and extend those to the gentleman, 
> Whynotnow7,  that he should remain silent until late this Friday
> only.  Thank you,  -Buck in FF
>

Sorry, Buck, the post count policy doesn't work that way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: !Gambling is Now Okay in the Domes!

[Buck]

>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's shocking, it is so without spiritual discipline and order.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bingo is coming next?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, c'mon Buck, the other two gunas need some lovin' too!
> > > >
> > > 
> > >   That all meditators, both old and young be careful not to Imatate the
> > > vain Fashions of the World in wearing their hatts set up on three sides
> > > (with Ribins broads or Bunched) nor powder the hair to be seen, nor are
> > > thee Neck cloath Long hanging down or twisted through the Button holes;
> > > nor bigg superfluous, or superfluity of holes, nor bigg Buttonholes, or
> > > places wrought in Imatation of holes, nor cross Pocketts, nor Capes on
> > > their Coates. Nor wide Laped Sleaves, nor gathered Skirts, drawn in
> > > Foulds like the vain practice of the world. Nor unsutable linings of
> > > Gaudy Coulors, nor the Breeches too Strait, nor bigg Unbecoming
> > > Shubauckles.
> > > -BuckObviously one of the few conservative meditators on this blog.
> > >
> > 
> > I wear lots of vainly fashionable designer clothes, so I guess I'm going to 
> > hell. Good thing for me, though, is that several pairs of my shoes are 
> > Prada. The Devil wears Prada, which means I must be the Devil. So, while I 
> > may be going to hell, at least I'll be the one in charge.
> >
> 
> As a conservative meditator I worry for the teaching in their hands.  Not 
> just the money-changing.  The Airs.  Om those robes and high crowns sitting 
> in stuffed chairs and their women in saris attending them.   Grown men 
> seriously in costume on stage and their western women arrayed in saris is 
> mighty clearly a cultism.
>

Airs and 
These same people think that someone going to sit with a saint somewhere would 
be confusing? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > But I may be wrong, who knows what genetic resetting is and how we know 
> > mental processes accomplish this.  I don't even remember any TM research 
> > that approaches this level of fantasy claim.
> > 
> 
> Curtis, you just don't understand it because your intellect is 
> underdeveloped,>

Hey, I'm doing the best I can with my genes all akimbo like they are without 
having been reset.  I needs ma genes reset man!


< but this can be rectified by attending the course, and it will be clear to 
you beyond proof that every word said about it is not only true but 100% 
scientific.>

Hey, they had me at "better tummy."


< Only its future science, and your intellect has to be higher intellect, if 
you know what I mean.>

Do I ever!  I got a PHD in what you mean in my misspent youth.


< Meanwhile I am pondering, who is seen left and right of the Purusha mandala, 
in the cosmos at about minute 5:35 to 5:50 of the video, see here (url with 
timecoding) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c#t=5m50s My guess is its 
Captain Kirk and Lieutenant Uhura.

Thanks for the heads up on the apparitions, excellent catch!

I had assumed that it was my late Uncle Merle and Aunt Kitty back from the 
grave to let their favorite nephew know that there IS life after death and its 
just like those big resorts in the Catskills with the wonderful pillow soft 
Portuguese dinner rolls and a crab-stuffed flounder to die for covered with 
capers and browned butter with a wedge of lemon in one of those cheese cloths 
that keep the seeds out of your fish. (How thoughtful is that?)  Now isn't that 
heaven?  Not yet?  Well perhaps when they bring out the baked Alaska in a conga 
line of waiters all aflame with the lights turned off we'll turn that frown 
upside down! 






>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > ===
> > Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 03 00:00:00 2011
> > End Date (UTC): Sat Dec 10 00:00:00 2011
> > 789 messages as of (UTC) Fri Dec 09 00:13:30 2011
> > 
> > 52 whynotnow7 
> 
> Ruh-roh!
>

Mr. Moderator; As a point of rare privilege I wish to yield two of my remaining 
posts for this week to our distinguished colleague and enlightened writer from 
the great Golden State, Whynotnow7.  Please take two off my total and extend 
those to the gentleman, Whynotnow7,  that he should remain silent until late 
this Friday only.  Thank you,  -Buck in FF 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 02:11 PM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote:
>
>
>
> I suspect we'll eventually find out some heretofore
>>> unknown properties of human DNA. It's really just a matter of time.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> That's because there are mantras that can control
>> many of the facets of body functioning...
>>
> So, you're thinking that a thought could actualy cause
> a physiological change in the human body?
>
> If so, this would be a Copernican change in physics!

Thinking?  I experience it.  Don't you?  That's IS also the basis of 
TM.  So you don't believe in TM anymore?  Major change in Willy, folks.  
Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
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Ruh-roh!

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:

> 
> But I may be wrong, who knows what genetic resetting is and how we know 
> mental processes accomplish this.  I don't even remember any TM research that 
> approaches this level of fantasy claim.
> 

Curtis, you just don't understand it because your intellect is underdeveloped, 
but this can be rectified by attending the course, and it will be clear to you 
beyond proof that every word said about it is not only true but 100% 
scientific. Only its future science, and your intellect has to be higher 
intellect, if you know what I mean. Meanwhile I am pondering, who is seen left 
and right of the Purusha mandala, in the cosmos at about minute 5:35 to 5:50 of 
the video, see here (url with timecoding) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c#t=5m50s My guess is its Captain Kirk 
and Lieutenant Uhura. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: !Gambling is Now Okay in the Domes!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's shocking, it is so without spiritual discipline and order.
> > > >
> > > > Bingo is coming next?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, c'mon Buck, the other two gunas need some lovin' too!
> > >
> > 
> >   That all meditators, both old and young be careful not to Imatate the
> > vain Fashions of the World in wearing their hatts set up on three sides
> > (with Ribins broads or Bunched) nor powder the hair to be seen, nor are
> > thee Neck cloath Long hanging down or twisted through the Button holes;
> > nor bigg superfluous, or superfluity of holes, nor bigg Buttonholes, or
> > places wrought in Imatation of holes, nor cross Pocketts, nor Capes on
> > their Coates. Nor wide Laped Sleaves, nor gathered Skirts, drawn in
> > Foulds like the vain practice of the world. Nor unsutable linings of
> > Gaudy Coulors, nor the Breeches too Strait, nor bigg Unbecoming
> > Shubauckles.
> > -BuckObviously one of the few conservative meditators on this blog.
> >
> 
> I wear lots of vainly fashionable designer clothes, so I guess I'm going to 
> hell. Good thing for me, though, is that several pairs of my shoes are Prada. 
> The Devil wears Prada, which means I must be the Devil. So, while I may be 
> going to hell, at least I'll be the one in charge.
>

As a conservative meditator I worry for the teaching in their hands.  Not just 
the money-changing.  The Airs.  Om those robes and high crowns sitting in 
stuffed chairs and their women in saris attending them.   Grown men seriously 
in costume on stage and their western women arrayed in saris is mighty clearly 
a cultism.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:

"the women all looking pretty and invisible"

Great song lyric Jim!




>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Cool story Curtis - I was wondering if the newly released book was 
> > > 'sanitized' too. I like the idea of a compendium of his writing - all of 
> > > it.
> > 
> > I was wrong about the dates, this book came our in 68 so it must have been 
> > then or maybe as late as 69 when I first tried to read it.
> > 
> > I can't imagine the movement being open with all his material which is too 
> > bad because the people who would care aren't getting any younger.  The 
> > access I had was all hush hush and my library connection was completely 
> > paranoid about letting me read it all.  Some of it reads as if Maharishi 
> > was just telling stories to keep people on the course back then.
> > 
> > Then there are supposed to be tapes Maharishi made without an audience.  
> > What a shame that they wont see the light of day for people into his 
> > teaching.  If they were all on disks there could be a massive volunteer 
> > project to at least go through them and put them into search categories.
> 
> **Yeah, too bad. Maybe it gets done at some point. 
> > 
> > When I see how cavalier the movement is about his teaching it reinforces my 
> > opinion that there really is no there there.  He was just an intro lecture 
> > spouting machine, cranking out the basics again and again and again and 
> > again...  I often had that feeling on TTC through the hours of tapes.
> 
> **Ah, the hours of tape. yep. Many years ago, I bought some cassette tapes 
> (remember those?) of Maharishi's sort of all time fave talks, and last 
> listened to them about five years ago, and was surprised that they were ok. 
> Not worth endless repetition, but nonetheless, original and held my interest 
> for the most part. I have some VHS tapes of him too. 
> 
> I always enjoy seeing the audience shots from the 70's, the guys wearing the 
> maroon sport jackets and striped ties, before it all went to "creme", with 
> 'stache, and hair sorta long but not really. Then with granny dresses, long 
> straight hair and oval rim glasses, the women all looking pretty and 
> invisible. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small 
> > > > SRM pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be 
> > > > curious to see if they edited the material at all from the original.
> > > > 
> > > > I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on 
> > > > vacation with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought 
> > > > the book as an excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away 
> > > > from my parents at age 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole 
> > > > thing then and am sure he didn't.
> > > > 
> > > > It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before 
> > > > I started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most 
> > > > of the book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my 
> > > > Maharishi stuff box.
> > > > 
> > > > I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like 
> > > > they did Hermit in the House. 
> > > > 
> > > > When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts 
> > > > of talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some 
> > > > wacky stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you 
> > > > can continue your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi 
> > > > teaching they present today including his wacky two nervous systems 
> > > > ideas.  But it would be nice if they were more honest about his actual 
> > > > teaching and how it progressed through his life, published it all and 
> > > > let people choose for themselves what they think.  I have no skin in 
> > > > the game now but if I was still involved I would be really pissed to 
> > > > still be denied access to his full teaching.
> > > > 
> > > > Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it 
> > > > all sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my 
> > > > course did not appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the 
> > > > book before starting, I do remember that!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   
> > > > > Transcendental
> > > > > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > > > > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > > > > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > > > > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 01:59 PM, Vaj wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>> That's because there are mantras that can control many of the facets of
>> body functioning. You can influence your autonomic nervous system with
>> them. Once you have a quiet mind you can clearly note the effects of
>> any mantra and make recommendations. You will also be able to clearly
>> note the influences of foods, herbals substances as well as other
>> elements the environment. Someone looking at how TM is taught might
>> wonder if MMY got it from ayurvedic concepts though I would say the
>> concepts go throughout all of yoga and Indian philosophy.
>
> He had cognized mantras, but also various herbal formulas and a system of 
> acupuncture.

Are you saying they just popped into his mind?  Probably not, but he 
arrived at the conclusions experientially.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[whynotnow7]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Cool story Curtis - I was wondering if the newly released book was 
> > 'sanitized' too. I like the idea of a compendium of his writing - all of it.
> 
> I was wrong about the dates, this book came our in 68 so it must have been 
> then or maybe as late as 69 when I first tried to read it.
> 
> I can't imagine the movement being open with all his material which is too 
> bad because the people who would care aren't getting any younger.  The access 
> I had was all hush hush and my library connection was completely paranoid 
> about letting me read it all.  Some of it reads as if Maharishi was just 
> telling stories to keep people on the course back then.
> 
> Then there are supposed to be tapes Maharishi made without an audience.  What 
> a shame that they wont see the light of day for people into his teaching.  If 
> they were all on disks there could be a massive volunteer project to at least 
> go through them and put them into search categories.

**Yeah, too bad. Maybe it gets done at some point. 
> 
> When I see how cavalier the movement is about his teaching it reinforces my 
> opinion that there really is no there there.  He was just an intro lecture 
> spouting machine, cranking out the basics again and again and again and 
> again...  I often had that feeling on TTC through the hours of tapes.

**Ah, the hours of tape. yep. Many years ago, I bought some cassette tapes 
(remember those?) of Maharishi's sort of all time fave talks, and last listened 
to them about five years ago, and was surprised that they were ok. Not worth 
endless repetition, but nonetheless, original and held my interest for the most 
part. I have some VHS tapes of him too. 

I always enjoy seeing the audience shots from the 70's, the guys wearing the 
maroon sport jackets and striped ties, before it all went to "creme", with 
'stache, and hair sorta long but not really. Then with granny dresses, long 
straight hair and oval rim glasses, the women all looking pretty and invisible. 

> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> > > pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to 
> > > see if they edited the material at all from the original.
> > > 
> > > I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on 
> > > vacation with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought 
> > > the book as an excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from 
> > > my parents at age 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then 
> > > and am sure he didn't.
> > > 
> > > It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> > > started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of 
> > > the book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my 
> > > Maharishi stuff box.
> > > 
> > > I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like 
> > > they did Hermit in the House. 
> > > 
> > > When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts 
> > > of talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some 
> > > wacky stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can 
> > > continue your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they 
> > > present today including his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it 
> > > would be nice if they were more honest about his actual teaching and how 
> > > it progressed through his life, published it all and let people choose 
> > > for themselves what they think.  I have no skin in the game now but if I 
> > > was still involved I would be really pissed to still be denied access to 
> > > his full teaching.
> > > 
> > > Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it 
> > > all sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course 
> > > did not appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book 
> > > before starting, I do remember that!
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > > > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > > > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > > > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > > > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> > > > on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> > > > 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> > > > Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> > > > his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> > > > Topics Inclu

[FairfieldLife] Re: !Gambling is Now Okay in the Domes!

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's shocking, it is so without spiritual discipline and order.
> > >
> > > Bingo is coming next?
> > >
> >
> > Oh, c'mon Buck, the other two gunas need some lovin' too!
> >
> 
>   That all meditators, both old and young be careful not to Imatate the
> vain Fashions of the World in wearing their hatts set up on three sides
> (with Ribins broads or Bunched) nor powder the hair to be seen, nor are
> thee Neck cloath Long hanging down or twisted through the Button holes;
> nor bigg superfluous, or superfluity of holes, nor bigg Buttonholes, or
> places wrought in Imatation of holes, nor cross Pocketts, nor Capes on
> their Coates. Nor wide Laped Sleaves, nor gathered Skirts, drawn in
> Foulds like the vain practice of the world. Nor unsutable linings of
> Gaudy Coulors, nor the Breeches too Strait, nor bigg Unbecoming
> Shubauckles.
> -BuckObviously one of the few conservative meditators on this blog.
>

I wear lots of vainly fashionable designer clothes, so I guess I'm going to 
hell. Good thing for me, though, is that several pairs of my shoes are Prada. 
The Devil wears Prada, which means I must be the Devil. So, while I may be 
going to hell, at least I'll be the one in charge.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[whynotnow7]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>

> He had cognized mantras, but also various herbal formulas and a system of 
> acupuncture.
>

People said the stoned wheat pizza crust he threw was to die for, and that '66 
Vette that he roared around in was the shnizzit! Four on the floor baby! It was 
said he could frikkin' say your name backwards and you'd never be bothered by 
horseflies again, ever, in your entire life. He once built a 1/10 scale replica 
of the Bahrain Hilton in his backyard, out of toothpicks - no glue, just 
balancing, and then to show the impermanence of matter, blew it away in seconds 
while chanting '...dontpaddlememum...' or something like that.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[whynotnow7]

I'll probably hack my own version together at some point. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM 
> > practitioners too.  
> 
> 
> Jepp, you'll have no problems attending this Jim :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: !Gambling is Now Okay in the Domes!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
 wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > It's shocking, it is so without spiritual discipline and order.
> >
> > Bingo is coming next?
> >
>
> Oh, c'mon Buck, the other two gunas need some lovin' too!
>

  That all meditators, both old and young be careful not to Imatate the
vain Fashions of the World in wearing their hatts set up on three sides
(with Ribins broads or Bunched) nor powder the hair to be seen, nor are
thee Neck cloath Long hanging down or twisted through the Button holes;
nor bigg superfluous, or superfluity of holes, nor bigg Buttonholes, or
places wrought in Imatation of holes, nor cross Pocketts, nor Capes on
their Coates. Nor wide Laped Sleaves, nor gathered Skirts, drawn in
Foulds like the vain practice of the world. Nor unsutable linings of
Gaudy Coulors, nor the Breeches too Strait, nor bigg Unbecoming
Shubauckles.
-BuckObviously one of the few conservative meditators on this blog.

[FairfieldLife] Video of TM Gala with Degeneres and Brand

[Rick Archer]

Video of TM Gala Event with Ellen Degeneres and Russell Brand:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ralXpMsoG-k

&feature=player_embedded

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

> > Spy drone captured by foreign country...
> >
obbajeeba:
> All the more reason to go and kill more brown people?
> 
Iranians are not 'brown people', they are Indo Europeans. 
The majority of modern Iranians actually descend from the 
Medes, who formed the bulk of the peoples of ancient 
Persia, originally from the Caucasus mountains.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

I suspect we'll eventually find out some heretofore 
> > unknown properties of human DNA. It's really just a matter of time.
> >
Bhairitu:
> That's because there are mantras that can control 
> many of the facets of body functioning...
>
So, you're thinking that a thought could actualy cause 
a physiological change in the human body?

If so, this would be a Copernican change in physics!

[FairfieldLife] Oprah talking about TM and Fairfield on Dr. Oz's show

[Dick Mays]

Charming 4-minute clip:
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/oz-exclusive-oprah-winfrey-pt-7

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Vaj]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

> That's because there are mantras that can control many of the facets of 
> body functioning. You can influence your autonomic nervous system with 
> them. Once you have a quiet mind you can clearly note the effects of 
> any mantra and make recommendations. You will also be able to clearly 
> note the influences of foods, herbals substances as well as other 
> elements the environment. Someone looking at how TM is taught might 
> wonder if MMY got it from ayurvedic concepts though I would say the 
> concepts go throughout all of yoga and Indian philosophy.


He had cognized mantras, but also various herbal formulas and a system of 
acupuncture.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[curtisdeltablues]

Quoted from claims:

"What you see you become
Putting our attention on the Vedic sequence creates brainwave coherence "

Maybe this was tested, maybe not.  Does anyone know?  It is quite a claim that 
would require evidence to be believed.  I suspect that the old Maharishi 
"flying" coherence move is in play again.


"and enlivens the genetic sequence of the DNA. When the genes are reset,"

This is the most dubious claim.  I think they are using sciency sounding terms 
to lend some credibility to outrageous speculation. In what sense are the genes 
reset?  Do we have any other scientific evidence for this kind of affect at 
this level of our cells?  "Enlivens the genetic sequence of the DNA" is 
practically an Onion parody of flim flam medical claims.

But I may be wrong, who knows what genetic resetting is and how we know mental 
processes accomplish this.  I don't even remember any TM research that 
approaches this level of fantasy claim.


< they in turn reset the physiology to a more ideal and healthy functioning. 
This is the physiological reality of the Vedic saying `What you see you 
become'.>

And then your tummy feels better no doubt.  Nice choice of baby words in the 
video to assist the listener access that mother is at home zone of credulity.  

But I may be wrong, lets hear from someone who wants to explain what these 
beliefs are based on and why scientific terms are invoked rather than just 
using the Vedic terms which in my view is a more honest presentation of where 
these beliefs come from.  This is a matter of religious faith on the level of 
the spiritual value of the Eucharist.  






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary
> December 3, 2011
> 
> 
> Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology
> 
> 
> A course to align oneself with the Veda, Total Natural Law, has become
> an extraordinary success.
> 
>   [Dr Alarik] Early this year Dr. Morris suggested to Drs Alarik and
> Cynthia Arenander that they design a course based on Maharaja's
> discovery that the human physiology is the expression of Veda. The
> course they created is entitled `The Individual is Cosmic'. The
> central feature is an electronic model, which Maharishi designed and
> refined over many years, to demonstrate the correspondences between the
> verses of Rik Ved and aspects of the human physiology. The model,
> developed by the Ministry of Health of the Global Country of World
> Peace, shows the physiology, and the relevant part lights up and blinks
> when the corresponding verses of the Veda are recited.
> 
>   [Model]
> 
> Extraordinary results
> The first course was offered in June, and participants had such
> unexpected and excellent results that more and more people have joined
> each course and now the 8th course is about to start. Many people just
> keep attending as many courses as they can, as the experience of healing
> and growth of consciousness just keep on improving.
> 
> A course participant wrote, `I am amazed at how quickly my health
> disorders – just – poof – disappeared! I have worked on my
> health for years. Imagine, now having something that is so easy, quick,
> enjoyable and long lasting. What a great gift to humanity! It is the
> future in health care coming to us NOW! Thank you Maharishi, Maharaja
> and the Health Ministry.'
> 
>   [Group]
> 
> How does it work?
> The course includes both intellectual understanding and experience of
> Vedic recitations. Dr Arenander gave a brilliant explanation of how the
> evolutionary, healing effects are generated. When awareness settles, it
> becomes Self-referral, and the innate intelligence of the body, which is
> Veda, is enlivened. All possibilities are enlivened in the memory of
> order in Veda, which is the internal structure of the Self. This is
> `self-repair mechanism'—the order does it itself.
> 
> Veda, Total Natural Law, gives rise to the DNA as the perfect expression
> of Total Natural Law, which in turn gives rise to the physiology. When
> through daily living some `dust' collects—stress or disorder
> accumulates—and the physiology no longer functions according to the
> original design, then we can return to the Veda to reset it. Maharishi
> called this `Putting Atma to practice'. The Vedic recitation
> enlivens the perfect sequential expression of DNA and physiology.
> 
> What you see you become
> Putting our attention on the Vedic sequence creates brainwave coherence
> and enlivens the genetic sequence of the DNA. When the genes are reset,
> they in turn reset the physiology to a more ideal and healthy
> functioning. This is the physiological reality of the Vedic saying
> `What you see you become'.
> 
> Available in Europe this month
> At the end of December Drs Arenander will begin a tour of Europe:
> 
> MERU, Holland – 27 to 31 December
> United Kingdom – 6 to 9 January
> Italy – 14 and 15 January
> Spain – 17 to 22 January
> Turkey – 23 to 29 January
> 
> Every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[obbajeeba]

All the more reason to go and kill more brown people?

Spy drone captured by foreign country.  
Not to worry too much if they do sell it to other countries. Someone will make 
money and most likely an American contractor, and someone will have to invent a 
better spy drone for the Americans that is less likely to be found?  : )


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> The Iranians will probably sell the drone technology to Russia or China.
> 
> Also, this should make the US and Israeli to have second thoughts about 
> attacking any suspected Iranian nuclear sites.
> 
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The Iranians apparently possesses a sophisticated defense system to 
> > > capture a plane fully intact.
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-releases-images-downed-u-spy-drone-171144210.html
> > >
> > 
> > "Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday they brought down an 
> > intact American spy drone--and now they are giving tours of the drone, in 
> > what is sure to be another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national 
> > security agencies."
> > 
> > It sure beats them being able to gloat about capturing a pilot as well as a 
> > plane. 
> > 
> > And, of course, it wouldn't truly be a proper FFL post without a linked 
> > video. Take us out, B&B:
> > 
> > http://youtu.be/ExFXDFtt_zY
> > 
> > Full episode here:
> > 
> > http://www.vureel.com/video/33121/Beavis-and-Butt-Head-S09E04
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[Bhairitu]

I have the original "Hermit in the House", "Maharishi's Himalayas" and a 
few other original publications. I think I've got some of the early SRM 
booklets too around here somewhere.

I wish I had kept the book by the chiropractor who determined that some 
patients did better with exercise than meditation. And had bought the 
book probably published in 1989 by the son of an Indian guru who 
critiqued TM in it and said that mantras without OM left people 
uncentered. He was also critical of the guru thing as his dad seemed to 
degenerate into a child that followers took care of.

On 12/08/2011 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to see 
> if they edited the material at all from the original.
>
> I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on vacation 
> with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the book as an 
> excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my parents at age 
> 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and am sure he didn't.
>
> It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi stuff 
> box.
>
> I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> did Hermit in the House.
>
> When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can continue 
> your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present 
> today including his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would be nice if 
> they were more honest about his actual teaching and how it progressed through 
> his life, published it all and let people choose for themselves what they 
> think.  I have no skin in the game now but if I was still involved I would be 
> really pissed to still be denied access to his full teaching.
>
> Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did not 
> appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before starting, 
> I do remember that!
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>>   [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
>> Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
>> Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
>> This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
>> years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
>> on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
>> 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
>> Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
>> his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
>> Topics Include:
>> How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
>> The Cure for Suffering
>> The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
>> Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
>> The Development of Higher Consciousness
>> Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
>> The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
>> Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
>> On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
>> Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
>> The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
>> "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
>> increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
>> and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
>> to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
>> peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
>> All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
>> endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
>> man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
>> wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
>> birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
>> Price: $19.95
>>
>> Item# TMQA
>>
>
>





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 10:13 AM, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>> >
>> > Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
>>
>> I saw it and was blown away by the implications. And with the rapid 
>> acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the 
>> believable. The question will be whether or not overclocking our CPU 
>> is inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab 
>> for everything they have come up with. But that limit may not last. 
>> I'll bet just getting closer with fewer side affect will work just 
>> fine for most of us.
>
>
> Actual yogis who develop these abilities often seem to develop a 
> spontaneous knowledge of workable holistic forms of medicine along 
> with their omniscience. That's what happened to my grandmaster, he was 
> just a peasant kid with little education, yet the kings of the 
> Himalaya sought him out for treatment.
>
> As westerners, we tend to boo hoo these things, because no one in the 
> west was really experiencing these states - until an American 
> Dzogchenpa actually attained the Body of Light several years ago. When 
> the Catholic church realized humans were experiencing it, they were 
> forced to investigate as well - after all it appeared their founder 
> had as well. I suspect we'll eventually find out some heretofore 
> unknown properties of human DNA. It's really just a matter of time.

That's because there are mantras that can control many of the facets of 
body functioning.  You can influence your autonomic nervous system with 
them.  Once you have a quiet mind you can clearly note the effects of 
any mantra and make recommendations. You will also be able to clearly 
note the influences of foods, herbals substances as well as other 
elements the environment.  Someone looking at how TM is taught might 
wonder if MMY got it from ayurvedic concepts though I would say the 
concepts go throughout all of yoga and Indian philosophy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM 
> practitioners too.  


Jepp, you'll have no problems attending this Jim :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Cool story Curtis - I was wondering if the newly released book was 
> 'sanitized' too. I like the idea of a compendium of his writing - all of it.

I was wrong about the dates, this book came our in 68 so it must have been then 
or maybe as late as 69 when I first tried to read it.

I can't imagine the movement being open with all his material which is too bad 
because the people who would care aren't getting any younger.  The access I had 
was all hush hush and my library connection was completely paranoid about 
letting me read it all.  Some of it reads as if Maharishi was just telling 
stories to keep people on the course back then.

Then there are supposed to be tapes Maharishi made without an audience.  What a 
shame that they wont see the light of day for people into his teaching.  If 
they were all on disks there could be a massive volunteer project to at least 
go through them and put them into search categories. 

When I see how cavalier the movement is about his teaching it reinforces my 
opinion that there really is no there there.  He was just an intro lecture 
spouting machine, cranking out the basics again and again and again and 
again...  I often had that feeling on TTC through the hours of tapes.





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> > pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to 
> > see if they edited the material at all from the original.
> > 
> > I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on 
> > vacation with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the 
> > book as an excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my 
> > parents at age 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and 
> > am sure he didn't.
> > 
> > It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> > started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> > book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi 
> > stuff box.
> > 
> > I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> > did Hermit in the House. 
> > 
> > When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> > talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> > stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can 
> > continue your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they 
> > present today including his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would 
> > be nice if they were more honest about his actual teaching and how it 
> > progressed through his life, published it all and let people choose for 
> > themselves what they think.  I have no skin in the game now but if I was 
> > still involved I would be really pissed to still be denied access to his 
> > full teaching.
> > 
> > Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> > sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did 
> > not appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before 
> > starting, I do remember that!
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> > > on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> > > 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> > > Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> > > his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> > > Topics Include:
> > > How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> > > The Cure for Suffering
> > > The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> > > Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> > > The Development of Higher Consciousness
> > > Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> > > The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> > > Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> > > On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> > > Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> > > The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> > > "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> > > increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
> > > and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
> > > to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> > > peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> > > All that we call wisdom today, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 12:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 12/08/2011 09:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj   wrote:
 Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
>>> I saw it and was blown away by the implications.  And with the rapid 
>>> acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the 
>>> believable.  The question will be whether or not overclocking our CPU is 
>>> inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab for 
>>> everything they have come up with.  But that limit may not last.  I'll bet 
>>> just getting closer with fewer side affect will work just fine for most of 
>>> us.
>>>
>>>
>> However our brains aren't really like CPUs.   They aren't even
>> computers.  AI experts exploring "artificial consciousness" say it is
>> more of a pattern matching system.  IOW, we learn things by patterns.
>> If it were like a computer we wouldn't make mistakes balancing our
>> checkbooks. ;-)
>
> Agreed.  But do you remember when geeks would overclocked their CPUs and 
> sometimes it would cause problem overall?  That was why I used that analogy.  
> The more I study the brain the less I know!

They still overclock just as they like to "root" their mobile devices 
and think they are out of style if their mobile device is more than two 
months old! :-D

It's all this "pile on" to survive over population.  As a developer I 
watch these geeks asking how to do crazy things on mobile devices they 
were never intended to do so they can win their rice bowl.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For you Dexter lovers :-)

[Alex Stanley]

For you FFL website users, who can't see the pic, it's the same image as this:

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnvt6imjnH1qeunjno1_400.png

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[whynotnow7]

Cool story Curtis - I was wondering if the newly released book was 'sanitized' 
too. I like the idea of a compendium of his writing - all of it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
> pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to see 
> if they edited the material at all from the original.
> 
> I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on vacation 
> with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the book as an 
> excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my parents at age 
> 15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and am sure he didn't.
> 
> It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
> started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
> book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi stuff 
> box.
> 
> I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they 
> did Hermit in the House. 
> 
> When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
> talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky 
> stuff including entering another body if yours wears out so you can continue 
> your yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present 
> today including his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would be nice if 
> they were more honest about his actual teaching and how it progressed through 
> his life, published it all and let people choose for themselves what they 
> think.  I have no skin in the game now but if I was still involved I would be 
> really pissed to still be denied access to his full teaching.
> 
> Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
> sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did not 
> appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before starting, 
> I do remember that!
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> >  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> > Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> > This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> > years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> > on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> > 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> > Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> > his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> > Topics Include:
> > How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> > The Cure for Suffering
> > The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> > Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> > The Development of Higher Consciousness
> > Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> > The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> > Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> > On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> > Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> > The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> > "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> > increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
> > and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
> > to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> > peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> > All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
> > endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
> > man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
> > wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
> > birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
> > Price: $19.95
> > 
> > Item# TMQA
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[whynotnow7]

What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM 
practitioners too.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary
> December 3, 2011
> 
> 
> Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology
> 
> 
> A course to align oneself with the Veda, Total Natural Law, has become
> an extraordinary success.
> 
>   [Dr Alarik] Early this year Dr. Morris suggested to Drs Alarik and
> Cynthia Arenander that they design a course based on Maharaja's
> discovery that the human physiology is the expression of Veda. The
> course they created is entitled `The Individual is Cosmic'. The
> central feature is an electronic model, which Maharishi designed and
> refined over many years, to demonstrate the correspondences between the
> verses of Rik Ved and aspects of the human physiology. The model,
> developed by the Ministry of Health of the Global Country of World
> Peace, shows the physiology, and the relevant part lights up and blinks
> when the corresponding verses of the Veda are recited.
> 
>   [Model]
> 
> Extraordinary results
> The first course was offered in June, and participants had such
> unexpected and excellent results that more and more people have joined
> each course and now the 8th course is about to start. Many people just
> keep attending as many courses as they can, as the experience of healing
> and growth of consciousness just keep on improving.
> 
> A course participant wrote, `I am amazed at how quickly my health
> disorders – just – poof – disappeared! I have worked on my
> health for years. Imagine, now having something that is so easy, quick,
> enjoyable and long lasting. What a great gift to humanity! It is the
> future in health care coming to us NOW! Thank you Maharishi, Maharaja
> and the Health Ministry.'
> 
>   [Group]
> 
> How does it work?
> The course includes both intellectual understanding and experience of
> Vedic recitations. Dr Arenander gave a brilliant explanation of how the
> evolutionary, healing effects are generated. When awareness settles, it
> becomes Self-referral, and the innate intelligence of the body, which is
> Veda, is enlivened. All possibilities are enlivened in the memory of
> order in Veda, which is the internal structure of the Self. This is
> `self-repair mechanism'—the order does it itself.
> 
> Veda, Total Natural Law, gives rise to the DNA as the perfect expression
> of Total Natural Law, which in turn gives rise to the physiology. When
> through daily living some `dust' collects—stress or disorder
> accumulates—and the physiology no longer functions according to the
> original design, then we can return to the Veda to reset it. Maharishi
> called this `Putting Atma to practice'. The Vedic recitation
> enlivens the perfect sequential expression of DNA and physiology.
> 
> What you see you become
> Putting our attention on the Vedic sequence creates brainwave coherence
> and enlivens the genetic sequence of the DNA. When the genes are reset,
> they in turn reset the physiology to a more ideal and healthy
> functioning. This is the physiological reality of the Vedic saying
> `What you see you become'.
> 
> Available in Europe this month
> At the end of December Drs Arenander will begin a tour of Europe:
> 
> MERU, Holland – 27 to 31 December
> United Kingdom – 6 to 9 January
> Italy – 14 and 15 January
> Spain – 17 to 22 January
> Turkey – 23 to 29 January
> 
> Everyone is welcome, including non-meditators.
> Apply early for the MERU course by email at: courses@...
>  rishi.net>  or at
> http://www.globalcountrycourses.com/events/winter/index.php#assembly
> 
> For the national courses please book through your national office.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[John]

The Iranians will probably sell the drone technology to Russia or China.

Also, this should make the US and Israeli to have second thoughts about 
attacking any suspected Iranian nuclear sites.

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > The Iranians apparently possesses a sophisticated defense system to capture 
> > a plane fully intact.
> > 
> > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-releases-images-downed-u-spy-drone-171144210.html
> >
> 
> "Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday they brought down an 
> intact American spy drone--and now they are giving tours of the drone, in 
> what is sure to be another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national 
> security agencies."
> 
> It sure beats them being able to gloat about capturing a pilot as well as a 
> plane. 
> 
> And, of course, it wouldn't truly be a proper FFL post without a linked 
> video. Take us out, B&B:
> 
> http://youtu.be/ExFXDFtt_zY
> 
> Full episode here:
> 
> http://www.vureel.com/video/33121/Beavis-and-Butt-Head-S09E04
>

[FairfieldLife] Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

[nablusoss1008]

Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary
December 3, 2011


Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology


A course to align oneself with the Veda, Total Natural Law, has become
an extraordinary success.

  [Dr Alarik] Early this year Dr. Morris suggested to Drs Alarik and
Cynthia Arenander that they design a course based on Maharaja's
discovery that the human physiology is the expression of Veda. The
course they created is entitled `The Individual is Cosmic'. The
central feature is an electronic model, which Maharishi designed and
refined over many years, to demonstrate the correspondences between the
verses of Rik Ved and aspects of the human physiology. The model,
developed by the Ministry of Health of the Global Country of World
Peace, shows the physiology, and the relevant part lights up and blinks
when the corresponding verses of the Veda are recited.

  [Model]

Extraordinary results
The first course was offered in June, and participants had such
unexpected and excellent results that more and more people have joined
each course and now the 8th course is about to start. Many people just
keep attending as many courses as they can, as the experience of healing
and growth of consciousness just keep on improving.

A course participant wrote, `I am amazed at how quickly my health
disorders – just – poof – disappeared! I have worked on my
health for years. Imagine, now having something that is so easy, quick,
enjoyable and long lasting. What a great gift to humanity! It is the
future in health care coming to us NOW! Thank you Maharishi, Maharaja
and the Health Ministry.'

  [Group]

How does it work?
The course includes both intellectual understanding and experience of
Vedic recitations. Dr Arenander gave a brilliant explanation of how the
evolutionary, healing effects are generated. When awareness settles, it
becomes Self-referral, and the innate intelligence of the body, which is
Veda, is enlivened. All possibilities are enlivened in the memory of
order in Veda, which is the internal structure of the Self. This is
`self-repair mechanism'—the order does it itself.

Veda, Total Natural Law, gives rise to the DNA as the perfect expression
of Total Natural Law, which in turn gives rise to the physiology. When
through daily living some `dust' collects—stress or disorder
accumulates—and the physiology no longer functions according to the
original design, then we can return to the Veda to reset it. Maharishi
called this `Putting Atma to practice'. The Vedic recitation
enlivens the perfect sequential expression of DNA and physiology.

What you see you become
Putting our attention on the Vedic sequence creates brainwave coherence
and enlivens the genetic sequence of the DNA. When the genes are reset,
they in turn reset the physiology to a more ideal and healthy
functioning. This is the physiological reality of the Vedic saying
`What you see you become'.

Available in Europe this month
At the end of December Drs Arenander will begin a tour of Europe:

MERU, Holland – 27 to 31 December
United Kingdom – 6 to 9 January
Italy – 14 and 15 January
Spain – 17 to 22 January
Turkey – 23 to 29 January

Everyone is welcome, including non-meditators.
Apply early for the MERU course by email at: cour...@maharishi.net
  or at
http://www.globalcountrycourses.com/events/winter/index.php#assembly

For the national courses please book through your national office.

[FairfieldLife] For you Dexter lovers :-)

[Rick Archer]

<>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 12/08/2011 09:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >> Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
> > I saw it and was blown away by the implications.  And with the rapid 
> > acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the 
> > believable.  The question will be whether or not overclocking our CPU is 
> > inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab for 
> > everything they have come up with.  But that limit may not last.  I'll bet 
> > just getting closer with fewer side affect will work just fine for most of 
> > us.
> >
> >
> 
> However our brains aren't really like CPUs.   They aren't even 
> computers.  AI experts exploring "artificial consciousness" say it is 
> more of a pattern matching system.  IOW, we learn things by patterns.  
> If it were like a computer we wouldn't make mistakes balancing our 
> checkbooks. ;-)


Agreed.  But do you remember when geeks would overclocked their CPUs and 
sometimes it would cause problem overall?  That was why I used that analogy.  
The more I study the brain the less I know!






> 
> 
> >> Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the
> >> unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.
> >>
> >> In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer
> >> with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's
> >> into his ex-wife's brother and he claims he has a new pill, a still
> >> unreleased nootropic drug that has the ability for humans to access
> >> 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" max of 20%. So
> >> he decides to try it.
> >>
> >> Well the drug immediately begins giving abilities like infinite
> >> correlation between everything he's ever experienced and present
> >> experience. Perfect recall, perfect concentration, perfect
> >> photographic memory. For example, he sees the corner of a book's
> >> spine and is able to recollect a person he knew, with the same book,
> >> and that she was a law student and the full title, and thus is able
> >> to infer that she's a law student. One listen to a foreign language
> >> CD and he is fluent in that language, and on and on.
> >>
> >> I suspect they'll be a sequel to this one.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
> >>> kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
> >>> as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
> >>> Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
> >>> "If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
> >>> Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc
> >>>
> >>> Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
> >>> The title says it all.
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU
> >>>
> >>> "The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
> >>> crimes based on his stories.
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo
> >>>
> >>> A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
> >>> even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 09:46 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>> Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
> I saw it and was blown away by the implications.  And with the rapid 
> acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the 
> believable.  The question will be whether or not overclocking our CPU is 
> inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab for 
> everything they have come up with.  But that limit may not last.  I'll bet 
> just getting closer with fewer side affect will work just fine for most of us.
>
>

However our brains aren't really like CPUs.   They aren't even 
computers.  AI experts exploring "artificial consciousness" say it is 
more of a pattern matching system.  IOW, we learn things by patterns.  
If it were like a computer we wouldn't make mistakes balancing our 
checkbooks. ;-)


>> Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the
>> unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.
>>
>> In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer
>> with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's
>> into his ex-wife's brother and he claims he has a new pill, a still
>> unreleased nootropic drug that has the ability for humans to access
>> 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" max of 20%. So
>> he decides to try it.
>>
>> Well the drug immediately begins giving abilities like infinite
>> correlation between everything he's ever experienced and present
>> experience. Perfect recall, perfect concentration, perfect
>> photographic memory. For example, he sees the corner of a book's
>> spine and is able to recollect a person he knew, with the same book,
>> and that she was a law student and the full title, and thus is able
>> to infer that she's a law student. One listen to a foreign language
>> CD and he is fluent in that language, and on and on.
>>
>> I suspect they'll be a sequel to this one.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
>>
>>> Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
>>> kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
>>> as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
>>> Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
>>> "If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
>>> Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc
>>>
>>> Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
>>> The title says it all.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU
>>>
>>> "The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
>>> crimes based on his stories.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo
>>>
>>> A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
>>> even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I
>
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Souls that Changed the World'

[Robert]

 
 
Souls that Changed the World
 
John Lennon, Baptizer of the World
 
Barack Obama, Hope of the World
 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Transcender of the World
 
Paul McCartney, Musician of the World
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah talking about TM, Fairfield, etc, on the Dr. Oz show :

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Oprah talking about TM, Fairfield, etc, on the Dr. Oz show (3:44) :
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/oz-exclusive-oprah-winfrey-pt-7
>

http://youtu.be/ZkQBl-3t5sg

[FairfieldLife] Oprah talking about TM, Fairfield, etc, on the Dr. Oz show :

[Rick Archer]

Oprah talking about TM, Fairfield, etc, on the Dr. Oz show (3:44) :

 

 

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/oz-exclusive-oprah-winfrey-pt-7

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[curtisdeltablues]

I have fond memories of that book.  It was pieced together from small SRM 
pamphlets.  I have a few copies of them somewhere.  I would be curious to see 
if they edited the material at all from the original.

I first read it when I was 10 years old on Nantucket Island while on vacation 
with my parents. That would have been 1967.  My brother bought the book as an 
excuse to hide on the beach and smoke cigarettes away from my parents at age 
15.  I don't believe I got through the whole thing then and am sure he didn't.

It sat in my brother's bookshelf till I found it at age 16 right before I 
started.  It's spine was riddled with the bbs holes that marked most of the 
book spines in his bookshelf, but I still have the copy in my Maharishi stuff 
box.

I really would be curious if they left it alone or messed with it like they did 
Hermit in the House. 

When I was at MIU I had a chance to read through a bunch of transcripts of 
talks Maharishi gave in India in the early 60's.  It included some wacky stuff 
including entering another body if yours wears out so you can continue your 
yoga.  It is far from the sanitized Maharishi teaching they present today 
including his wacky two nervous systems ideas.  But it would be nice if they 
were more honest about his actual teaching and how it progressed through his 
life, published it all and let people choose for themselves what they think.  I 
have no skin in the game now but if I was still involved I would be really 
pissed to still be denied access to his full teaching.

Glad you posted this Nabby.  I remember how exotic and authoritative it all 
sounded back in 1975 when I started TM.  The initiators of my course did not 
appreciate my questions based on my knowledge from the book before starting, I 
do remember that!


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
>  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
> Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
> his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> Topics Include:
> How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> The Cure for Suffering
> The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> The Development of Higher Consciousness
> Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
> and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
> to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
> endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
> man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
> wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
> birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
> Price: $19.95
> 
> Item# TMQA
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[whynotnow7]

I put your dialog below through a speech converter, and it came up with this. 
The accuracy of the software is amazing! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4W1xXymQ-c

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to admit to feeling happy that they are still 
> > > generating new material for us.  My hope is that they 
> > > ramp this up and can evolve beyond this 60's technology 
> > > (doesn't it remind you of that vibration football game 
> > > or electronic Battleship?) and get into some video game 
> > > technology.  Or better yet, something for my Wii cuz 
> > > then at least I will get the health benefit of getting 
> > > up off my ass.
> > 
> > Sign me up for that. Can't you just imagine? One of the
> > TMO WII games could be called Shoot The Heretic, in which 
> > tiny versions of Off The Vedic Program slime run around 
> > on your TV screen doing nasty things and you have to zap 
> > them. Because that's the dharmic thing to do, doncha know. :-)
> > 
> > > Now I know what to put in that little note I'm gunna burn 
> > > in the fire place with the smoke wafting all the way to 
> > > the North Pole.  Where Raja Ram lives dressed in silk 
> > > and imagining more imaginarium gifts for his movement 
> > > children while serving up an actual X-Box 360 WITH 
> > > connect for his real kids.   
> > 
> > Interesting image. Sadly, probably true. Maybe he will
> > invent...uh, excuse me...cognize an Eating Like A Raja
> > game, in which you as Raja have to wave your WII at the
> > screen (and by "WII" I am definitely referring to the 
> > controller for the game platform of that name, not 
> > anything non-Vedic) to select which of the seven meals
> > prepared for you tonight to eat, and which to throw
> > away. That would certainly be a good educational program
> > for children.  :-)
> 
> I've gotta figure that some Indian programmers have all the code ready for 
> the Mahabharata Game, it is tailor made for serious gaming.  They are 
> probably just waiting on the financing to roll it out.  A series on the 
> Puranas would be so cool.  Perhaps the young uns in India want Tour of Duty 
> instead.  That would be a real loss of the tradition in my book.  It all just 
> writes itself.  You pick your Istideva in the beginning and follow their 
> limitations and power through the game.  Or maybe a Holy Tradition game where 
> you have to get past the naked perv Shukadeva before he flashes you with his 
> virtuously unused wiener. 
> 
> Hey maybe we should be working on a cyber temple site where you can make 
> offerings to a linghum or whatever online.  I can so see Grannie Patel 
> sitting in front of a laptop with a candle in her hand and a wax proof cover 
> for the keyboard.  Unfortunately the Indians who would go for it are not into 
> computers and the people into computers are into porn.  Hard to beat the live 
> cams on slave girls sites for viewer eyeballs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[turquoiseb]

I'd camp out overnight at your local bookstore for this one, Nabby.
Don't take chances on missing out on an early copy by trusting in
Amazon; this one's gonna be flying off the shelves.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
>  [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]  
Transcendental
> Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
> This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
> years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
> on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
> 1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
> Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences
attending
> his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
> Topics Include:
> How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
> The Cure for Suffering
> The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
> Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
> The Development of Higher Consciousness
> Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
> The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
> Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
> On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
> Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
> The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
> "There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
> increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national
affairs,
> and international relations. The great and urgent need is for
something
> to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
> peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
> All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
> endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
> man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
> wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
> birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
> Price: $19.95

[FairfieldLife] Just Released: Early Book by Maharishi Out of Print For Over 40 Years

[nablusoss1008]

 [Transcendental Meditation with Questions and Answers]   Transcendental
Meditation with Questions and Answers  By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Softcover, 168 pages Published in 2011
This beautiful and charming book is being released after more than 40
years being out-of-print. It consists of two parts. Part One is a talk
on Transcendental Meditation given by Maharishi from March 1960 to mid
1961, when Maharishi held evening discourses in London, England. Part
Two consists of questions addressed to Maharishi by audiences attending
his lectures and the answers given by Maharishi.
Topics Include:
How All Things Have Their Origin in Absolute Bliss Consciousness
The Cure for Suffering
The Way to Realisation through the Absolute Consciousness
Bliss-Attribute of the Divine
The Development of Higher Consciousness
Unfoldment of Latent Faculties
The Ultimate Goal of Transcendental Meditation
Timeless Tradition of Knowledge
On Faith and Religion and God Realisation
Mantra—A Specific Sound and Its Value
The Role of an Enlightened Master (Teacher or Guide)
"There is an ever-increasing state of chaos in the world; tension
increases daily in the individual, in social life, in national affairs,
and international relations. The great and urgent need is for something
to re-establish harmony in the individual human being and to give him
peace; only from such an inner peace can wisdom and happiness be born.
All that we call wisdom today, all knowledge, the whole process of
endless fact-gathering must utterly fail to satisfy the real needs of
man; for these real needs are called happiness, understanding, and
wisdom, and they are not vain and unworldly aspirations but man's
birthright." - Maharishi, 1961, London
Price: $19.95

Item# TMQA

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> The Iranians apparently possesses a sophisticated defense system to capture a 
> plane fully intact.
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-releases-images-downed-u-spy-drone-171144210.html
>

"Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday they brought down an 
intact American spy drone--and now they are giving tours of the drone, in what 
is sure to be another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national security 
agencies."

It sure beats them being able to gloat about capturing a pilot as well as a 
plane. 

And, of course, it wouldn't truly be a proper FFL post without a linked video. 
Take us out, B&B:

http://youtu.be/ExFXDFtt_zY

Full episode here:

http://www.vureel.com/video/33121/Beavis-and-Butt-Head-S09E04

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[whynotnow7]

"Actual yogis who develop these abilities often seem to develop a spontaneous 
knowledge of workable holistic forms of medicine along with their omniscience. 
That's what happened to my grandmaster, he was just a peasant kid with little 
education, yet the kings of the Himalaya sought him out for treatment."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=945CPuRUZv8

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
> >
> > I saw it and was blown away by the implications. And with the rapid  
> > acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the  
> > believable. The question will be whether or not overclocking our  
> > CPU is inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar  
> > tab for everything they have come up with. But that limit may not  
> > last. I'll bet just getting closer with fewer side affect will work  
> > just fine for most of us.
> 
> 
> Actual yogis who develop these abilities often seem to develop a  
> spontaneous knowledge of workable holistic forms of medicine along  
> with their omniscience. That's what happened to my grandmaster, he  
> was just a peasant kid with little education, yet the kings of the  
> Himalaya sought him out for treatment.
> 
> As westerners, we tend to boo hoo these things, because no one in the  
> west was really experiencing these states - until an American  
> Dzogchenpa actually attained the Body of Light several years ago.  
> When the Catholic church realized humans were experiencing it, they  
> were forced to investigate as well - after all it appeared their  
> founder had as well. I suspect we'll eventually find out some  
> heretofore unknown properties of human DNA. It's really just a matter  
> of time.
>

[FairfieldLife] Iran Shows Downed US Spy Plane

[John]

The Iranians apparently possesses a sophisticated defense system to capture a 
plane fully intact.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-releases-images-downed-u-spy-drone-171144210.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Vaj]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> Have you seen "Limitless" yet?

I saw it and was blown away by the implications. And with the rapid  
acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the  
believable. The question will be whether or not overclocking our  
CPU is inherently dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar  
tab for everything they have come up with. But that limit may not  
last. I'll bet just getting closer with fewer side affect will work  
just fine for most of us.



Actual yogis who develop these abilities often seem to develop a  
spontaneous knowledge of workable holistic forms of medicine along  
with their omniscience. That's what happened to my grandmaster, he  
was just a peasant kid with little education, yet the kings of the  
Himalaya sought him out for treatment.


As westerners, we tend to boo hoo these things, because no one in the  
west was really experiencing these states - until an American  
Dzogchenpa actually attained the Body of Light several years ago.  
When the Catholic church realized humans were experiencing it, they  
were forced to investigate as well - after all it appeared their  
founder had as well. I suspect we'll eventually find out some  
heretofore unknown properties of human DNA. It's really just a matter  
of time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > Have you seen "Limitless" yet?
> 
> I saw it and was blown away by the implications.  

It ("Limitless") is one reason I am so fond of
the TV series "Unforgettable." That's based on a 
real-life ability that series consultant Marilu
Henner really *has*, the ability to remember 
everything about her life. *Everything*. Such
an ability exists, although there are only half
a dozen people on the planet who can demonstrate
it. So there is some possibility that someone
could invent a pharmacological way for more of
us to be able to do that. The data is already
*there* in our brains; all that's missing is 
the ability to access it at will.

> And with the rapid acceleration of "smart" drug use on 
> campuses it was well within the believable.  The question 
> will be whether or not overclocking our CPU is inherently 
> dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab for 
> everything they have come up with.  But that limit may 
> not last.  I'll bet just getting closer with fewer side 
> affect will work just fine for most of us.  
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the  
> > unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.
> > 
> > In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer  
> > with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's  
> > into his ex-wife's brother and he claims he has a new pill, a still  
> > unreleased nootropic drug that has the ability for humans to access  
> > 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" max of 20%. So  
> > he decides to try it.
> > 
> > Well the drug immediately begins giving abilities like infinite  
> > correlation between everything he's ever experienced and present  
> > experience. Perfect recall, perfect concentration, perfect  
> > photographic memory. For example, he sees the corner of a book's  
> > spine and is able to recollect a person he knew, with the same book,  
> > and that she was a law student and the full title, and thus is able  
> > to infer that she's a law student. One listen to a foreign language  
> > CD and he is fluent in that language, and on and on.
> > 
> > I suspect they'll be a sequel to this one.
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > 
> > > Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
> > > kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
> > > as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
> > > Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
> > > "If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
> > > Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc
> > >
> > > Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
> > > The title says it all.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU
> > >
> > > "The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
> > > crimes based on his stories.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo
> > >
> > > A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
> > > even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> Have you seen "Limitless" yet?

I saw it and was blown away by the implications.  And with the rapid 
acceleration of "smart" drug use on campuses it was well within the believable. 
 The question will be whether or not overclocking our CPU is inherently 
dangerous or not. So far there seems to be a bar tab for everything they have 
come up with.  But that limit may not last.  I'll bet just getting closer with 
fewer side affect will work just fine for most of us.  



> 
> Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the  
> unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.
> 
> In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer  
> with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's  
> into his ex-wife's brother and he claims he has a new pill, a still  
> unreleased nootropic drug that has the ability for humans to access  
> 100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" max of 20%. So  
> he decides to try it.
> 
> Well the drug immediately begins giving abilities like infinite  
> correlation between everything he's ever experienced and present  
> experience. Perfect recall, perfect concentration, perfect  
> photographic memory. For example, he sees the corner of a book's  
> spine and is able to recollect a person he knew, with the same book,  
> and that she was a law student and the full title, and thus is able  
> to infer that she's a law student. One listen to a foreign language  
> CD and he is fluent in that language, and on and on.
> 
> I suspect they'll be a sequel to this one.
> 
> 
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> 
> > Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
> > kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
> > as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
> > Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
> > "If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
> > Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc
> >
> > Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
> > The title says it all.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU
> >
> > "The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
> > crimes based on his stories.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo
> >
> > A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
> > even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[whynotnow7]

Fair enough - At this point, I think Ravi is sick of reading my stuff about 
him. Completely hilarious video! I wonder if the guy in it now walks around 
with a t-shirt that reads, "I licked the Pope's face"?
As for KB/Bubbles, I hope you'll contribute to the betting pool!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I lurked for some time before I posted, you might want to consider that 
> before questioning my choice of words. And please, don't think I don't enjoy 
> your posts, I have watched you more than once send *Bubbles* to bed for the 
> afternoon. And as I said I'm sure Raja Ravi Yogi thinks I'm nuts to include 
> you with the gang bangers. Now its time for my nails.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Xy1nI4Wzw&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> From: whynotnow7 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:11:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Bob, You weren't here when Ravi was putting on quite a show upon his 
> arrival on FFL. It was done brilliantly, with real links to mental hospitals, 
> doctors and psychiatrists. I was not taken in, but many others were, and it 
> was truly an alarming experience for them. After all, no one knew Ravi at 
> that point. So you may want to consider that, before calling people 
> hypocrites. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > I read all these posts, when they were posted. Unless you're
> > 
> > doing a Curtis; you seem to have missed my point. I do not agree with yours 
> > or
> > Alex's interpretation of your exchanges with Ravi.  I don't believe the 
> > two of you are anywhere near as innocent
> > as you'd like the other posters to believe. Alex is passive aggressive, read
> > his "projections" response to me last night.  You, on the other hand, 
> > are being
> > hypocritical; I have no reason to think it's (like Curtis), a permanent 
> > affliction,
> > or, (like Bubbles), that you're a low functioning sociopath, but your
> > explanations are BS (hope that doesn't offend). There are numerous examples 
> > of
> > Ravi's points that were completely ignored in the rush to *cyber* lynch 
> > him, I've
> > already mentioned the obvious metaphors he was using; everyone ignored his
> > explanation that one might be forgiven for thinking someone who uses a 
> > handle
> > like yours might not be offended by some colorful language; chivalry my ass,
> > you're all hypocrites. But like Watergate, or the sudden stop---to the 
> > fall, the
> > cover-up was worse than the break in. I think the posts after Ravi, and 
> > Judy,
> > posted out stink to high heaven of the basest type of mob thinking, and all 
> > of
> > you (not you Bubbles we understand your challenges) should be ashamed of
> > yourselves. *Attempting* to get even with someone by discussing their past 
> > and
> > present mental health is nasty, but pretending you're doing it out of some
> > type of concern for a fellow human being, is the worst type of hypocrisy. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy#Jung_on_the_General_Hypocrisy_of_Man
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: raunchydog 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:34:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> > >
> > > RD,
> > > 
> > > Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except 
> > > for the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: raunchydog 
> > > 
> > > Hi Robin, 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his 
> > > posts with much interest except to notice that he has had some 
> > > enjoyable back and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My 
> > > initial experience of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such 
> > > a depressive state that we had extensive discussions about his mental 
> > > health and concern that he might commit suicide. Since then I see 
> > > that he has come back from the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still 
> > > see him as an unstable individual with the potential to go off the 
> > > rails again. Given his history, I think Alex's explanation for what 
> > > might have happened with Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to 
> > > provoke Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? 
> > >
> > 
> > Incorrect. I've already explained the motivation for my actions and the 
> > sequence of events here: 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297639
> > 
> > Out of respect for your friendship with Ravi, I'll answer you question. 
> > Just for the record, despite the row I've had with Ravi, I don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> Have you seen "Limitless" yet?

Yep. Loved it.
 
> Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing 
> the unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.

Not to mention the issue of becoming addicted to
the thing you believe does the developing. That's
why I associated the LED Visible Man with a bong. :-)

[FairfieldLife] For Emily, previously known as Re: Hey Ravi

[obbajeeba]

 
Bob, you are well worth to take this risk, as I am nearing my peak of posts.
Thank you for the week's worth of coming to the rescue of mental retards 
masking as normal functional peeps. I take sides with you because your words 
speak absolute truth and no other. 
Time to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdUgOyHIAPY

ps. Turq, I am getting off of that thang! ; )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> Thank you for lowering yourself enough to answer, your thoughts are always 
> appreciated; I thought you might like a tour of the gang bangers mental 
> institution of choice.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtXCwbFASQ&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:19:46 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks. I took the bait to answer. Although Bates motel 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VP5jEAP3K4 may be more like the seventh slot, 
> I take my letter and flush it down the toilet. : )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Be careful, using handles like *Bubbles* and not playing along with the 
> > *viewer* defense might land you in slot seven, although, on behalf of the 
> > six, the air is a lot cleaner over here; a lot less gas.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: obbajeeba 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:45:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> > > 
> > > I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> > > when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> > > happens from time to time. :-)
> > > 
> > > All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> > > need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> > > other people on this forum and either what you think
> > > of them or what they think of you.
> > >
> > 
> > Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he 
> > grabbed the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, 
> > back into the brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
> > Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
> > Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same 
> > category of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve 
> > around the other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own 
> > head? LOL
> > 
> > 
> >  Â 
> >
> 
> 
>   
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Vaj]

Have you seen "Limitless" yet?

Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the  
unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain.


In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer  
with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's  
into his ex-wife's brother and he claims he has a new pill, a still  
unreleased nootropic drug that has the ability for humans to access  
100% of the brain's power, as opposed to the "normal" max of 20%. So  
he decides to try it.


Well the drug immediately begins giving abilities like infinite  
correlation between everything he's ever experienced and present  
experience. Perfect recall, perfect concentration, perfect  
photographic memory. For example, he sees the corner of a book's  
spine and is able to recollect a person he knew, with the same book,  
and that she was a law student and the full title, and thus is able  
to infer that she's a law student. One listen to a foreign language  
CD and he is fluent in that language, and on and on.


I suspect they'll be a sequel to this one.


On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
"If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc

Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
The title says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU

"The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
crimes based on his stories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo

A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I

[FairfieldLife] KB's Hater List Betting Pool [was Re: Hey Ravi]

[whynotnow7]

I was thinking we could hold a KB Hater List Betting Pool. Everyone chips in a 
buck each and the person who guesses closest to the number of people actually 
on KB's **global** hater list, wins. 

Of course we would have to enlist a confidant of Turq's who has actually seen 
the list, and that would be tough. Next best course would be to enlist members 
with absolute integrity, perhaps Judy and MZ, to confidentially come to a best 
estimate, which would then be held privately by an FFL moderator, along with 
the proceeds, until the drawing takes place. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Be careful, using handles like *Bubbles* and not playing along with the 
> *viewer* defense might land you in slot seven, although, on behalf of the 
> six, the air is a lot cleaner over here; a lot less gas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:45:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> > 
> > I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> > when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> > happens from time to time. :-)
> > 
> > All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> > need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> > other people on this forum and either what you think
> > of them or what they think of you.
> >
> 
> Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he 
> grabbed the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, back 
> into the brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
> Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
> Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same 
> category of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve 
> around the other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own 
> head? LOL
> 
> 
>   
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[Bob Price]

Thank you for lowering yourself enough to answer, your thoughts are always 
appreciated; I thought you might like a tour of the gang bangers mental 
institution of choice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qtXCwbFASQ&feature=related



From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:19:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi



Thanks. I took the bait to answer. Although Bates motel 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VP5jEAP3K4 may be more like the seventh slot, I 
take my letter and flush it down the toilet. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Be careful, using handles like *Bubbles* and not playing along with the 
> *viewer* defense might land you in slot seven, although, on behalf of the 
> six, the air is a lot cleaner over here; a lot less gas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:45:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> > 
> > I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> > when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> > happens from time to time. :-)
> > 
> > All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> > need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> > other people on this forum and either what you think
> > of them or what they think of you.
> >
> 
> Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he 
> grabbed the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, back 
> into the brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
> Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
> Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same 
> category of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve 
> around the other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own 
> head? LOL
> 
> 
>  Â 
>


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[obbajeeba]

Thanks. I took the bait to answer. Although Bates motel 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VP5jEAP3K4 may be more like the seventh slot, I 
take my letter and flush it down the toilet. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Be careful, using handles like *Bubbles* and not playing along with the 
> *viewer* defense might land you in slot seven, although, on behalf of the 
> six, the air is a lot cleaner over here; a lot less gas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:45:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> > 
> > I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> > when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> > happens from time to time. :-)
> > 
> > All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> > need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> > other people on this forum and either what you think
> > of them or what they think of you.
> >
> 
> Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he 
> grabbed the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, back 
> into the brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
> Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
> Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same 
> category of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve 
> around the other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own 
> head? LOL
> 
> 
>   
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[Bob Price]

I lurked for some time before I posted, you might want to consider that before 
questioning my choice of words. And please, don't think I don't enjoy your 
posts, I have watched you more than once send *Bubbles* to bed for the 
afternoon. And as I said I'm sure Raja Ravi Yogi thinks I'm nuts to include you 
with the gang bangers. Now its time for my nails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Xy1nI4Wzw&feature=related



From: whynotnow7 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:11:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi



Hi Bob, You weren't here when Ravi was putting on quite a show upon his arrival 
on FFL. It was done brilliantly, with real links to mental hospitals, doctors 
and psychiatrists. I was not taken in, but many others were, and it was truly 
an alarming experience for them. After all, no one knew Ravi at that point. So 
you may want to consider that, before calling people hypocrites. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I read all these posts, when they were posted. Unless you're
> 
> doing a Curtis; you seem to have missed my point. I do not agree with yours or
> Alex's interpretation of your exchanges with Ravi.  I don't believe the two 
> of you are anywhere near as innocent
> as you'd like the other posters to believe. Alex is passive aggressive, read
> his "projections" response to me last night.  You, on the other hand, are 
> being
> hypocritical; I have no reason to think it's (like Curtis), a permanent 
> affliction,
> or, (like Bubbles), that you're a low functioning sociopath, but your
> explanations are BS (hope that doesn't offend). There are numerous examples of
> Ravi's points that were completely ignored in the rush to *cyber* lynch him, 
> I've
> already mentioned the obvious metaphors he was using; everyone ignored his
> explanation that one might be forgiven for thinking someone who uses a handle
> like yours might not be offended by some colorful language; chivalry my ass,
> you're all hypocrites. But like Watergate, or the sudden stop---to the fall, 
> the
> cover-up was worse than the break in. I think the posts after Ravi, and Judy,
> posted out stink to high heaven of the basest type of mob thinking, and all of
> you (not you Bubbles we understand your challenges) should be ashamed of
> yourselves. *Attempting* to get even with someone by discussing their past and
> present mental health is nasty, but pretending you're doing it out of some
> type of concern for a fellow human being, is the worst type of hypocrisy. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy#Jung_on_the_General_Hypocrisy_of_Man
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: raunchydog 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:34:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > RD,
> > 
> > Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except for 
> > the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> > 
> > 
> > From: raunchydog 
> > 
> > Hi Robin, 
> > 
> > 
> > RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his posts 
> > with much interest except to notice that he has had some enjoyable back 
> > and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My initial experience 
> > of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such a depressive state 
> > that we had extensive discussions about his mental health and concern 
> > that he might commit suicide. Since then I see that he has come back 
> > from the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still see him as an unstable 
> > individual with the potential to go off the rails again. Given his 
> > history, I think Alex's explanation for what might have happened with 
> > Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> > 
> > 
> > ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to provoke 
> > Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? 
> >
> 
> Incorrect. I've already explained the motivation for my actions and the 
> sequence of events here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297639
> 
> Out of respect for your friendship with Ravi, I'll answer you question. Just 
> for the record, despite the row I've had with Ravi, I don't dislike him. 
> Since I'm going into far more detail explaining myself than I expected, I 
> hope you will at least follow the threads I have outlined before judging me.
> 
> In a nutshell: Ravi gay baited Alex. I gay baited Ravi. Ravi ranted about 
> blowjobs. I dropped it here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297404
> 
> I thought Ravi dropped it here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297409
> 
> Then I commented on Vaj's link here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297443
> 
> Ravi took offense and for no a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[Bhairitu]

On 12/08/2011 08:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods"
> kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
> as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods.
> Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
> "If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
> Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc
>
> Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
> The title says it all.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU
>
> "The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
> crimes based on his stories.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo
>
> A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see
> even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I

And in the spirit of the season I've heard good things about "Silent 
Night, Zombie Night" though it is not available for rental anywhere just 
on sale.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1330216/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

[Bob Price]

Golly Curtis,



You're slipping, the same rubber arrow, two days in a row (emotional punching 
bag), what are you getting *Bubbles* for Christmas: "Geraldine loves diamonds".



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgHpvcg0o8



***Have to run, I have an appointment for the nails.






From: curtisdeltablues 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:54:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; 
the hypocrite slayer)



Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. 

But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional 
punching bag this Christmas. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s
> 
> 
> 
> Curtis,
> 
> 
> So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* 
> that better captures your posting voice)
> to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive 
> by, we
> were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do
> have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me
> $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, 
> Bubbles,
> and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick
> received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. 
> 
> 
> Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining 
> communications should be stopped, 
> 
> at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is 
> this a rerun? And it's
> completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long
> as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so 
> obviously
> provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected,
> for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely 
> un-cool.
> In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot
> around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the 
> first
> to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help
> with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of
> *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to
> post out again): "The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL".
> But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at
> reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving 
> your
> Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi 
> because
> he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never
> forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very 
> seriously:
> My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  
> 
> 
> I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your 
> ciphers, to line up single file, to
> avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like
> Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's
> shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every
> hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as
> Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes
> and sizes.   
> 
> 
> I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, 
> before entering into a conversation
> about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let
> me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your
> buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not 
> perfectly;
> till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue "to do the same
> thing over and over and expect different results"; the break through came
> a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as 
> if he
> had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette
> seemed to be saying: 
> 
> 
> "I think it's very important to know when to stop". 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-I&feature=related
> 
> 
> PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still 
> pondering that KOAN you shared with us that
> bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously 
> bullying
> MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going
> these days, your dialogues are missed.  The *nice* thing about the handle 
> *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all
> the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming,
> the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite 
> look mushy,
> your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your
> spelling mistake, and your "Most disgusting..." post to me wil

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[whynotnow7]

Hi Bob, You weren't here when Ravi was putting on quite a show upon his arrival 
on FFL. It was done brilliantly, with real links to mental hospitals, doctors 
and psychiatrists. I was not taken in, but many others were, and it was truly 
an alarming experience for them. After all, no one knew Ravi at that point. So 
you may want to consider that, before calling people hypocrites. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I read all these posts, when they were posted. Unless you're
> 
> doing a Curtis; you seem to have missed my point. I do not agree with yours or
> Alex's interpretation of your exchanges with Ravi.  I don't believe the two 
> of you are anywhere near as innocent
> as you'd like the other posters to believe. Alex is passive aggressive, read
> his "projections" response to me last night.  You, on the other hand, are 
> being
> hypocritical; I have no reason to think it's (like Curtis), a permanent 
> affliction,
> or, (like Bubbles), that you're a low functioning sociopath, but your
> explanations are BS (hope that doesn't offend). There are numerous examples of
> Ravi's points that were completely ignored in the rush to *cyber* lynch him, 
> I've
> already mentioned the obvious metaphors he was using; everyone ignored his
> explanation that one might be forgiven for thinking someone who uses a handle
> like yours might not be offended by some colorful language; chivalry my ass,
> you're all hypocrites. But like Watergate, or the sudden stop---to the fall, 
> the
> cover-up was worse than the break in. I think the posts after Ravi, and Judy,
> posted out stink to high heaven of the basest type of mob thinking, and all of
> you (not you Bubbles we understand your challenges) should be ashamed of
> yourselves. *Attempting* to get even with someone by discussing their past and
> present mental health is nasty, but pretending you're doing it out of some
> type of concern for a fellow human being, is the worst type of hypocrisy. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy#Jung_on_the_General_Hypocrisy_of_Man
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: raunchydog 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:34:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > RD,
> > 
> > Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except for 
> > the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> > 
> > 
> > From: raunchydog 
> > 
> > Hi Robin, 
> > 
> > 
> > RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his posts 
> > with much interest except to notice that he has had some enjoyable back 
> > and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My initial experience 
> > of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such a depressive state 
> > that we had extensive discussions about his mental health and concern 
> > that he might commit suicide. Since then I see that he has come back 
> > from the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still see him as an unstable 
> > individual with the potential to go off the rails again. Given his 
> > history, I think Alex's explanation for what might have happened with 
> > Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> > 
> > 
> > ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to provoke 
> > Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? 
> >
> 
> Incorrect. I've already explained the motivation for my actions and the 
> sequence of events here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297639
> 
> Out of respect for your friendship with Ravi, I'll answer you question. Just 
> for the record, despite the row I've had with Ravi, I don't dislike him. 
> Since I'm going into far more detail explaining myself than I expected, I 
> hope you will at least follow the threads I have outlined before judging me.
> 
> In a nutshell: Ravi gay baited Alex. I gay baited Ravi. Ravi ranted about 
> blowjobs. I dropped it here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297404
> 
> I thought Ravi dropped it here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297409
> 
> Then I commented on Vaj's link here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297443
> 
> Ravi took offense and for no apparent reason, he launched into another 
> abusive rant about blowjobs here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297571
> 
> At that point Rick stepped in and I stepped back. I did not respond to Ravi's 
> rant. In fact I'm on record saying Ravi should not be censored here: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297765
> 
> I don't know anything about Ravi's mental health other than he is no longer 
> talking about suicide. For all the reasons I explained, the notion that I 
> provoked Ravi because I was concerned for his mental stability seems to im

[FairfieldLife] Re: Goodle Doodle's Diego Rivera

[obbajeeba]

It is interesting as remnants of Detroit's crumbling city decay and splinter, 
the most celebrated tourist attraction well preserved (as it should be because 
it is an art museum.), the art what was not American art work, yet about 
manufacturing and the ethnic mix of working class people in a town that took 
all cultures to be embraced (community living), the art work still exists...but 
do not let anyone see you may have bought a foreign car and park it in your 
driveway, because that is unAmerican!
Having a foreign car in Detroit, was and may still be looked at as an insult to 
American values, and the key scratches on the paint job proves such prejudice 
is present,  but the artwork of a "communist," are cherished as "Art," and 
supported by tax payer's dollars and are now one of the few things left to 
visit in Motown that is maintained. All the next generations of children can 
see what beauty is left and what values are prettier than others. : )
I am comparing the demise of business in Detroit to the artwork it still 
maintains.

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Detroit Industry: The Murals of Diego Rivera at the Detroit Institute of Arts 
> Museum is one of the coolest paintings I've ever had the pleasure to groove 
> on while high on pot. Even without the pot, it's a spectacular mural. 
> 
> I started visiting the museum regularly as a kid in Jr. High. Detroit Public 
> Schools offered Saturday morning summer art classes at the museum for kids 
> recommended by art teachers around the city. So for 50 cents I had access to 
> a closet full of drawing materials, a shelf reserved for my stuff and roaming 
> privileges anywhere in the museum to draw or paint for two hours. I was in 
> heaven. I fell in love with the Rivera mural from an early age. It holds many 
> memories for me as a child. As a student at nearby Wayne State University, I 
> visited there many times. If you ever get to Motown, the Rivera mural is a 
> must see.
> 
> http://www.npr.org/multimedia/2009/04/rivera/gallery/index.html
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103337403
> 
> http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/1208/Diego-Rivera-communist-and-Mexican-icon-honored-with-Google-Doodle
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[Bob Price]

Be careful, using handles like *Bubbles* and not playing along with the 
*viewer* defense might land you in slot seven, although, on behalf of the six, 
the air is a lot cleaner over here; a lot less gas.




From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:45:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> 
> I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> happens from time to time. :-)
> 
> All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> other people on this forum and either what you think
> of them or what they think of you.
>

Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he grabbed 
the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, back into the 
brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same category 
of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve around the 
other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own head? LOL


   

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Partisans: Rick Perry - Weak, man.

[curtisdeltablues]

Excellent!  Anderson Cooper cleaned his clock pretty well too:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/07/video-perry-obama-at-war-on-religious-traditions/?hpt=ac_bn1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > http://youtu.be/BbrI3F7p6-o
> 
> This is Second City's "answer video" to one of 
> Rick Perry's real campaign videos:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Partisans: Rick Perry - Weak, man.

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> http://youtu.be/BbrI3F7p6-o

This is Second City's "answer video" to one of 
Rick Perry's real campaign videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[Bob Price]

Jim,

I have no doubt Ravi will forgive you; and I certainty have no problem any more 
with your enlightenment. I agree with you that assuming anything about someones 
consciousness, based on behavior, is nonsense. Also, I should be nice to you 
because I may need your help lifting *Bubbles* into the ambulance. That said, I 
wouldn't want you watching my back in the dark end of the alley. And, I thought 
you might have figured out by now that I'm not overly attached to my *adult* 
persona. 



From: whynotnow7 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:17:50 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi



Oops, I thought I was interacting with another adult, Bob. My mistake.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Save it for Ravi Jim, he has a much bigger heart than I do. 
> 
> 
> Do you have any clue how dumb your second paragraph makes you sound?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: whynotnow7 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:49:22 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Bob, I did not try to "cyber lynch" Ravi, so please include me with Oboe 
> and the others. RD has been on here a long time and Ravi's stuff didn't fit 
> the object of his rant, however well intentioned. 
> 
> As for the implication to us all through the video clip, I grew up with brown 
> people, not whiteys. I lived mostly in SE Asia until I was 19. They raised 
> me. I spoke the languages of Indonesia, the Philippines and Hong Kong. 
> Thankfully the last two were primarily English, with a smattering of Tagalog 
> and Cantonese. Also lived in Mexico, Spain, Fiji, and Surinam. So no big deal 
> about Ravi having a really, really good tan. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
> >
> > RD,
> > 
> > Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except for 
> > the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> > 
> > 
> > From: raunchydog 
> > 
> > Hi Robin, 
> > 
> > 
> > RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his posts 
> > with much interest except to notice that he has had some enjoyable back 
> > and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My initial experience 
> > of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such a depressive state 
> > that we had extensive discussions about his mental health and concern 
> > that he might commit suicide. Since then I see that he has come back 
> > from the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still see him as an unstable 
> > individual with the potential to go off the rails again. Given his 
> > history, I think Alex's explanation for what might have happened with 
> > Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> > 
> > 
> > ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to provoke 
> > Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? Do I also understand 
> > correctly that the *attempted* lynching of Raja Ravi Yogi, by pretty much 
> > all of FFL (excluding Judy, Edg and Oboe) was also out of concern for his 
> > mental health; and we should ignore the fact that the *attempted* lynching 
> > was lead by those paragons of emotional maturity Curtis and Bubbles? In 
> > addition, the stated fact: "I really don't know Ravi very well at all." is 
> > no barrier to your meditation or an accurate diagnosis of his mental state, 
> > and further, being the trained mental health professionals that you and the 
> > Alex must so obviously be, the two of you had no doubt that provoking him 
> > was the high road to his recovery? I want to thank you for clearing that 
> > up; I'm a bit slow; I had thought it was that the two of you were being 
> > passive aggressive and working on some issues, and Ravi, as always, was more
 than
> >  happy to help you out. 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgKXK9giPYQ&feature=related
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Alex: "I can see why many traditions of awakening get the 
> > samskara/vasana inner work out of the way before awakening, because 
> > once sole identity with the I/me story is broken, it is tempting to 
> > disregard the story as unimportant and let it act out messily. Also, 
> > for people with serious mental health issues, nondual awakening can 
> > make matters worse."
> > 
> > 
> > ***BP: I'm sure I'm wrong about this; on the off chance Raja Ravi Yogi was 
> > using closet and Mother Teresa as a metaphors for ignorance and hypocrisy 
> > respectively, would it be fair to interpret yours and Alex's posts as 
> > *attempts*, to provoke Ravi; and having the heart of a lion, in a herd of 
> > zebras, he accommodated you?   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLFi9Xd7yys
> > 
> > 
> > RDOG: As long as Ravi isn't threatening to do himself in, I don't make 
> > any claims to know th

[FairfieldLife] The Partisans: Rick Perry - Weak, man.

[Alex Stanley]

http://youtu.be/BbrI3F7p6-o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I have to admit to feeling happy that they are still 
> > generating new material for us.  My hope is that they 
> > ramp this up and can evolve beyond this 60's technology 
> > (doesn't it remind you of that vibration football game 
> > or electronic Battleship?) and get into some video game 
> > technology.  Or better yet, something for my Wii cuz 
> > then at least I will get the health benefit of getting 
> > up off my ass.
> 
> Sign me up for that. Can't you just imagine? One of the
> TMO WII games could be called Shoot The Heretic, in which 
> tiny versions of Off The Vedic Program slime run around 
> on your TV screen doing nasty things and you have to zap 
> them. Because that's the dharmic thing to do, doncha know. :-)
> 
> > Now I know what to put in that little note I'm gunna burn 
> > in the fire place with the smoke wafting all the way to 
> > the North Pole.  Where Raja Ram lives dressed in silk 
> > and imagining more imaginarium gifts for his movement 
> > children while serving up an actual X-Box 360 WITH 
> > connect for his real kids.   
> 
> Interesting image. Sadly, probably true. Maybe he will
> invent...uh, excuse me...cognize an Eating Like A Raja
> game, in which you as Raja have to wave your WII at the
> screen (and by "WII" I am definitely referring to the 
> controller for the game platform of that name, not 
> anything non-Vedic) to select which of the seven meals
> prepared for you tonight to eat, and which to throw
> away. That would certainly be a good educational program
> for children.  :-)

I've gotta figure that some Indian programmers have all the code ready for the 
Mahabharata Game, it is tailor made for serious gaming.  They are probably just 
waiting on the financing to roll it out.  A series on the Puranas would be so 
cool.  Perhaps the young uns in India want Tour of Duty instead.  That would be 
a real loss of the tradition in my book.  It all just writes itself.  You pick 
your Istideva in the beginning and follow their limitations and power through 
the game.  Or maybe a Holy Tradition game where you have to get past the naked 
perv Shukadeva before he flashes you with his virtuously unused wiener. 

Hey maybe we should be working on a cyber temple site where you can make 
offerings to a linghum or whatever online.  I can so see Grannie Patel sitting 
in front of a laptop with a candle in her hand and a wax proof cover for the 
keyboard.  Unfortunately the Indians who would go for it are not into computers 
and the people into computers are into porn.  Hard to beat the live cams on 
slave girls sites for viewer eyeballs.





>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[whynotnow7]

Thanks for the confirmation Buck - You say 'being there' - have you been more 
than once, or is it a set number of times in order to have the practice become 
automatic? If I am in confidential territory, please let me know - I am just 
interested to compare this stuff to techniques which evolve from the siddhis 
naturally.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a 
> > group as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are 
> > simply pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being 
> > something up in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to 
> > simply place their attention on the blinking body part, which is 
> > synchronized to the particular Vedic hymn being played at the time. This 
> > then promotes healing or at least waking up that particular area of the 
> > body by the attendee's own attention, enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 
> >
> 
> Whynot, Yep, you got it. It is very Buddhistic like in practice. The teachers 
> introduce it telling how to use the 'attention' then turn on the gizmo that 
> conducts the meditation. Also they may play a Maharishi or Tony tape.  People 
> are there experientially for the technique.  The point is to sit through the 
> guided meditation.  It is a type of samyama when you get the hang of it.  
> That is my experience being there.
> 
> Best Regards,
> -Buck in FF
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[Bob Price]

I read all these posts, when they were posted. Unless you're

doing a Curtis; you seem to have missed my point. I do not agree with yours or
Alex's interpretation of your exchanges with Ravi.  I don't believe the two of 
you are anywhere near as innocent
as you'd like the other posters to believe. Alex is passive aggressive, read
his "projections" response to me last night.  You, on the other hand, are being
hypocritical; I have no reason to think it's (like Curtis), a permanent 
affliction,
or, (like Bubbles), that you're a low functioning sociopath, but your
explanations are BS (hope that doesn't offend). There are numerous examples of
Ravi's points that were completely ignored in the rush to *cyber* lynch him, 
I've
already mentioned the obvious metaphors he was using; everyone ignored his
explanation that one might be forgiven for thinking someone who uses a handle
like yours might not be offended by some colorful language; chivalry my ass,
you're all hypocrites. But like Watergate, or the sudden stop---to the fall, the
cover-up was worse than the break in. I think the posts after Ravi, and Judy,
posted out stink to high heaven of the basest type of mob thinking, and all of
you (not you Bubbles we understand your challenges) should be ashamed of
yourselves. *Attempting* to get even with someone by discussing their past and
present mental health is nasty, but pretending you're doing it out of some
type of concern for a fellow human being, is the worst type of hypocrisy. 



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy#Jung_on_the_General_Hypocrisy_of_Man






From: raunchydog 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:34:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> RD,
> 
> Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except for 
> the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> 
> 
> From: raunchydog 
> 
> Hi Robin, 
> 
> 
> RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his posts 
> with much interest except to notice that he has had some enjoyable back 
> and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My initial experience 
> of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such a depressive state 
> that we had extensive discussions about his mental health and concern 
> that he might commit suicide. Since then I see that he has come back from 
> the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still see him as an unstable 
> individual with the potential to go off the rails again. Given his 
> history, I think Alex's explanation for what might have happened with 
> Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> 
> 
> ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to provoke 
> Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? 
>

Incorrect. I've already explained the motivation for my actions and the 
sequence of events here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297639

Out of respect for your friendship with Ravi, I'll answer you question. Just 
for the record, despite the row I've had with Ravi, I don't dislike him. Since 
I'm going into far more detail explaining myself than I expected, I hope you 
will at least follow the threads I have outlined before judging me.

In a nutshell: Ravi gay baited Alex. I gay baited Ravi. Ravi ranted about 
blowjobs. I dropped it here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297404

I thought Ravi dropped it here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297409

Then I commented on Vaj's link here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297443

Ravi took offense and for no apparent reason, he launched into another abusive 
rant about blowjobs here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297571

At that point Rick stepped in and I stepped back. I did not respond to Ravi's 
rant. In fact I'm on record saying Ravi should not be censored here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297765

I don't know anything about Ravi's mental health other than he is no longer 
talking about suicide. For all the reasons I explained, the notion that I 
provoked Ravi because I was concerned for his mental stability seems to imply 
cruel intent on my part and is simply not true.

>
Do I also understand correctly that the *attempted* lynching of Raja Ravi Yogi, 
by pretty much all of FFL (excluding Judy, Edg and Oboe) was also out of 
concern for his mental health;
>

I doubt it, but you'll have to ask them.

>
and we should ignore the fact that the *attempted* lynching was lead by those 
paragons of emotional maturity Curtis and Bubbles? 
>

Curtis can speak for himself. I note that Judy has a serious beef with him for 
his hypocrisy concerning Barry and Vaj then choosing to pile on Ravi. I like 
Curtis, but I tend to agree with her about his hypocrisy in general on the 

[FairfieldLife] Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

[turquoiseb]

Not due out until 2012, "The Cabin In The Woods" 
kinda tops my list. The IMDB describes its plot
as "Five friends go to a remote cabin in the woods. 
Bad things happen." The tagline for the film is
"If you hear a strange sound outside... have sex."
Written and produced by Joss Whedon. Instant classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXfc12BqFkc

Then there is "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter."
The title says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4U3kbV4dCU

"The Raven," with Edgar Allen Poe trying to solve
crimes based on his stories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeLylWccNo

A Francis Ford Coppola movie that I'll probably see 
even though it's got Val Kilmer in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7cQnOcU7I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[whynotnow7]

Well said - You should invite some of the course participants who experienced 
benefits over to your place so you can act snide and superior around them, and 
tell them what fools they are! Invite KB too! And if they are too wimpy to go 
for popping pills and getting cut open, the only real ways to heal, suggest 
they try leeches. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a 
> > > > group as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model 
> > > > are simply pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than 
> > > > being something up in the mind, the participants are probably 
> > > > instructed to simply place their attention on the blinking body part, 
> > > > which is synchronized to the particular Vedic hymn being played at the 
> > > > time. This then promotes healing or at least waking up that particular 
> > > > area of the body by the attendee's own attention, enlivened by the 
> > > > Vedic vibrations. 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Whynot, Yep, you got it. It is very Buddhistic like in practice. The 
> > > teachers introduce it telling how to use the 'attention' then turn on the 
> > > gizmo that conducts the meditation. 
> > 
> > Then you keep eyes open? On the video it says: visualizing Brahm, that's 
> > another new element.
> > 
> > >Also they may play a Maharishi or Tony tape.  People are there 
> > >experientially for the technique.  The point is to sit through the guided 
> > >meditation.  It is a type of samyama when you get the hang of it.  That is 
> > >my experience being there.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > -Buck in FF
> 
> I was thinking that they would be playing the part of the Veda Tony imagines 
> relates to that part of the body while the audience sits in the group trance 
> after a meditation listening to the Vedic drone.  If they had pacifiers and 
> glow rings we could call it a rave.
> 
> The A of E and Chopra technique is a real departure from Maharishi's usual 
> schtick.  Can you imagine the initiator's answer to any question from another 
> system that described this practice?  It would get labeled superficial 
> moodmaking before they were done describing it.
> 
> I was thinking that the brain doesn't have sensation receptors and our 
> internal organs have very few.  The whole thing is another imaginarium 
> exercise carefully couched in lawyer generated language to imply but not make 
> direct health claims.
> 
> But back in the day it would have worked for me.  Everything "worked" for me. 
>  That is the nature of being really good at maintaining trance states. In 
> mixed martial arts the term "worked" for a match means that it was fake with 
> a predetermined outcome, think professional wrestling.  
> 
> The larger issue is that imagining healing is a long way from actual healing 
> and $85 is still too much for a placebo that could be accomplished with a 2 
> cent sugar pill or a capsule of magic Vedic leper dust.  (Do NOT open those 
> capsules and pour it into your eggnog instead of nutmeg. There is not enough 
> Christmas punch in the world to take the funk off of that part zombie part 
> funeral pyre ash flavor no matter how magically healthful they are for your 
> imaginary dosha imbalance. 
> 
> Basically they are taking Tony's SCI integration metaphor literally as if any 
> of our MIU course connections between one discipline and another was not just 
> a metaphor but was a cognition of how things actually are, really really.
> 
> But if viewed as a normal to low ticket price for a headline music act, and 
> knowing how much fun this will be for all those who it "works" for, the $85 
> is probably well worth it for the ride.  I would have considered it a bargain 
> at any price. 
> 
> I have to admit to feeling happy that they are still generating new material 
> for us.  My hope is that they ramp this up and can evolve beyond this 60's 
> technology (doesn't it remind you of that vibration football game or 
> electronic Battleship?) and get into some video game technology.  Or better 
> yet, something for my Wii cuz then at least I will get the health benefit of 
> getting up off my ass.
> 
> I wish that posting on FFL had a Wii connection, don't you?  Maybe I should 
> be using voice recognition software while bouncing on a mini tramp!  Now I 
> know what to put in that little note I'm gunna burn in the fire place with 
> the smoke wafting all the way to the North Pole.  Where Raja Ram lives 
> dressed in silk and imagining more imaginarium gifts for his movement 
> children while serving up an actual X-Box 360 WITH connect for his real kids. 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

Bob Price:
> Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama...
>
Barry himself has written the most embarassing Rama 
stories. There's something funny about almost every
guru or teacher.

http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html

But, I actually liked Fred Lenz - I love almost all 
gurus. I mean if you can't laugh at yourself and your 
guru, who can you laugh at?

After Trungpa died, we had a big ceremony just before 
he was about to be cremated. All the senior students 
gathered inside the enormous, orange-pillared big
Dharmadhatu shrine hall, with its blue, red and gold 
trim.

It was standing room only with the Trungpa disciples 
sitting in rows, upon the softy pillows, in practiced 
posture, evoking the mantras and the visualizations 
just like the lama had instructed. 

There were rows and rows of solemn meditators sitting 
with eyes half closed. Everything was in acordance 
with Tibetan tradition, down to the clicking of the 
prayer beads and the empty throne where a photograph 
of the late Rinpoche had been placed.

Up on the dais sat the Vajra Regent, appointed by the 
Trungpa Rinpoche, Osel Tendzin; and the visiting high 
lamas of the Tibetan Kagya sect; the monks and the 
VIPs and the laity. I got to sit down in front because 
I, among six others, had taken the Vajrayana vows and 
had been intitiated into Shambala training by the lama 
himself.

In the back of the temple a special cadre of advanced 
students sat in a circle grinding the bones of the 
Trungpa Tulku, once the spiritual leader of the Surmang 
group of monesteries in Tibet. We recited a hundred 
thousand dharanis, performed a thousand bows in order 
to  empowered the Rinpoche's bones. 

And to what avail?

Years later, I learned that both the Trungpa and his 
Vajra Regent were gay alcoholics who had built, out of 
money donated by hapless students, a vast beaucratic 
organization in the form of a co-dependent support 
group, i.e., both the Trungpa and the Vajra Regent 
literally drank and screwed themselves to death right 
in front of the whole organization! 

And they called it Tantra, blessed by none other than 
the great Kalu, himself a Tibetan philanderer. 

Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Goodle Doodle's Diego Rivera

[raunchydog]

Detroit Industry: The Murals of Diego Rivera at the Detroit Institute of Arts 
Museum is one of the coolest paintings I've ever had the pleasure to groove on 
while high on pot. Even without the pot, it's a spectacular mural. 

I started visiting the museum regularly as a kid in Jr. High. Detroit Public 
Schools offered Saturday morning summer art classes at the museum for kids 
recommended by art teachers around the city. So for 50 cents I had access to a 
closet full of drawing materials, a shelf reserved for my stuff and roaming 
privileges anywhere in the museum to draw or paint for two hours. I was in 
heaven. I fell in love with the Rivera mural from an early age. It holds many 
memories for me as a child. As a student at nearby Wayne State University, I 
visited there many times. If you ever get to Motown, the Rivera mural is a must 
see.

http://www.npr.org/multimedia/2009/04/rivera/gallery/index.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103337403

http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/1208/Diego-Rivera-communist-and-Mexican-icon-honored-with-Google-Doodle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> I have to admit to feeling happy that they are still 
> generating new material for us.  My hope is that they 
> ramp this up and can evolve beyond this 60's technology 
> (doesn't it remind you of that vibration football game 
> or electronic Battleship?) and get into some video game 
> technology.  Or better yet, something for my Wii cuz 
> then at least I will get the health benefit of getting 
> up off my ass.

Sign me up for that. Can't you just imagine? One of the
TMO WII games could be called Shoot The Heretic, in which 
tiny versions of Off The Vedic Program slime run around 
on your TV screen doing nasty things and you have to zap 
them. Because that's the dharmic thing to do, doncha know. :-)

> Now I know what to put in that little note I'm gunna burn 
> in the fire place with the smoke wafting all the way to 
> the North Pole.  Where Raja Ram lives dressed in silk 
> and imagining more imaginarium gifts for his movement 
> children while serving up an actual X-Box 360 WITH 
> connect for his real kids.   

Interesting image. Sadly, probably true. Maybe he will
invent...uh, excuse me...cognize an Eating Like A Raja
game, in which you as Raja have to wave your WII at the
screen (and by "WII" I am definitely referring to the 
controller for the game platform of that name, not 
anything non-Vedic) to select which of the seven meals
prepared for you tonight to eat, and which to throw
away. That would certainly be a good educational program
for children.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Could be. I just noticed that you and 7thray just 
> > "piled on" to a thread that was all about other
> > people, not about anything substantive. Basically,
> > I suspect that many here are bored with their lives,
> > and depend on the ongoing FFL soap opera to liven
> > them up. I think that's sad.
> > 
> > Then again, I live with a small child and her three
> > parents, two dogs and two cats. One's life rarely 
> > needs livening up in that situation. :-)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCja1WGZx-E
> Haha. No wonder you spend so much time at a cafe!  
> Bravo for your retreat!   

True that!  :-)

> I would tend to think all posters on FFL have a life 
> that enjoys taking time to post here, because boredom 
> swoops in all of our lives at some times more than others. 
> 
> Soap opera is the best reality FFL has to offer! : )

True that, too.  :-)

> My bum has very little creased imprint (from NOT sitting 
> behind a computer all day) and has kept muscle tone on 
> it as it has not become glued to a chair, FYI, unsolicited, 
> of course.
> ; )

This, however, may just fall into the category of Too 
Much Information. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a 
> > > group as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are 
> > > simply pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being 
> > > something up in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to 
> > > simply place their attention on the blinking body part, which is 
> > > synchronized to the particular Vedic hymn being played at the time. This 
> > > then promotes healing or at least waking up that particular area of the 
> > > body by the attendee's own attention, enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 
> > >
> > 
> > Whynot, Yep, you got it. It is very Buddhistic like in practice. The 
> > teachers introduce it telling how to use the 'attention' then turn on the 
> > gizmo that conducts the meditation. 
> 
> Then you keep eyes open? On the video it says: visualizing Brahm, that's 
> another new element.
> 
> >Also they may play a Maharishi or Tony tape.  People are there 
> >experientially for the technique.  The point is to sit through the guided 
> >meditation.  It is a type of samyama when you get the hang of it.  That is 
> >my experience being there.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > -Buck in FF

I was thinking that they would be playing the part of the Veda Tony imagines 
relates to that part of the body while the audience sits in the group trance 
after a meditation listening to the Vedic drone.  If they had pacifiers and 
glow rings we could call it a rave.

The A of E and Chopra technique is a real departure from Maharishi's usual 
schtick.  Can you imagine the initiator's answer to any question from another 
system that described this practice?  It would get labeled superficial 
moodmaking before they were done describing it.

I was thinking that the brain doesn't have sensation receptors and our internal 
organs have very few.  The whole thing is another imaginarium exercise 
carefully couched in lawyer generated language to imply but not make direct 
health claims.

But back in the day it would have worked for me.  Everything "worked" for me.  
That is the nature of being really good at maintaining trance states. In mixed 
martial arts the term "worked" for a match means that it was fake with a 
predetermined outcome, think professional wrestling.  

The larger issue is that imagining healing is a long way from actual healing 
and $85 is still too much for a placebo that could be accomplished with a 2 
cent sugar pill or a capsule of magic Vedic leper dust.  (Do NOT open those 
capsules and pour it into your eggnog instead of nutmeg. There is not enough 
Christmas punch in the world to take the funk off of that part zombie part 
funeral pyre ash flavor no matter how magically healthful they are for your 
imaginary dosha imbalance. 

Basically they are taking Tony's SCI integration metaphor literally as if any 
of our MIU course connections between one discipline and another was not just a 
metaphor but was a cognition of how things actually are, really really.

But if viewed as a normal to low ticket price for a headline music act, and 
knowing how much fun this will be for all those who it "works" for, the $85 is 
probably well worth it for the ride.  I would have considered it a bargain at 
any price. 

I have to admit to feeling happy that they are still generating new material 
for us.  My hope is that they ramp this up and can evolve beyond this 60's 
technology (doesn't it remind you of that vibration football game or electronic 
Battleship?) and get into some video game technology.  Or better yet, something 
for my Wii cuz then at least I will get the health benefit of getting up off my 
ass.

I wish that posting on FFL had a Wii connection, don't you?  Maybe I should be 
using voice recognition software while bouncing on a mini tramp!  Now I know 
what to put in that little note I'm gunna burn in the fire place with the smoke 
wafting all the way to the North Pole.  Where Raja Ram lives dressed in silk 
and imagining more imaginarium gifts for his movement children while serving up 
an actual X-Box 360 WITH connect for his real kids.   






> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying 
> > attention and he grabbed the chicken on the string. As 
> > the crocodile sinks out of sight, back into the brackish 
> > water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
> >  Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which 
> > you claim not to?)
> 
> Excuse me? I don't think I've ever suggested that
> I don't read your posts, or choose to read or not
> read posts based on the Subject line (which as all
> should know by now often doesn't have anything to
> do with the content). I only check in Message View 
> on who sent them, scanning for (because some seem
> a bit concerned that they're on my list of six
> "not worth my time" posters) Jim, Ravi, MZ, Judy,
> Bob Price, and Willytex. I am choosing to reward
> their sometimes fixation on me by ignoring them. :-)
> 
> > Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing 
> > users in a same category of who you think are needing, 
> > "to get a life that doesn't revolve around the other 
> > people on this forum," when that may just be in your 
> > own head? LOL
> 
> Could be. I just noticed that you and 7thray just 
> "piled on" to a thread that was all about other
> people, not about anything substantive. Basically,
> I suspect that many here are bored with their lives,
> and depend on the ongoing FFL soap opera to liven
> them up. I think that's sad.
> 
> Then again, I live with a small child and her three
> parents, two dogs and two cats. One's life rarely 
> needs livening up in that situation. :-)
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCja1WGZx-E
Haha. No wonder you spend so much time at a cafe!  Bravo for your retreat!   

 I would tend to think all posters on FFL have a life that enjoys taking time 
to post here, because boredom swoops in all of our lives at some times more 
than others. 

Soap opera is the best reality FFL has to offer! : )

My bum has very little creased imprint (from NOT sitting behind a computer all 
day) and has kept muscle tone on it as it has not become glued to a chair, FYI, 
unsolicited, of course.
 ; ) 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying 
> attention and he grabbed the chicken on the string. As 
> the crocodile sinks out of sight, back into the brackish 
> water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
>  Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which 
> you claim not to?)

Excuse me? I don't think I've ever suggested that
I don't read your posts, or choose to read or not
read posts based on the Subject line (which as all
should know by now often doesn't have anything to
do with the content). I only check in Message View 
on who sent them, scanning for (because some seem
a bit concerned that they're on my list of six
"not worth my time" posters) Jim, Ravi, MZ, Judy,
Bob Price, and Willytex. I am choosing to reward
their sometimes fixation on me by ignoring them. :-)

> Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing 
> users in a same category of who you think are needing, 
> "to get a life that doesn't revolve around the other 
> people on this forum," when that may just be in your 
> own head? LOL

Could be. I just noticed that you and 7thray just 
"piled on" to a thread that was all about other
people, not about anything substantive. Basically,
I suspect that many here are bored with their lives,
and depend on the ongoing FFL soap opera to liven
them up. I think that's sad.

Then again, I live with a small child and her three
parents, two dogs and two cats. One's life rarely 
needs livening up in that situation. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a 
> > group as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are 
> > simply pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being 
> > something up in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to 
> > simply place their attention on the blinking body part, which is 
> > synchronized to the particular Vedic hymn being played at the time. This 
> > then promotes healing or at least waking up that particular area of the 
> > body by the attendee's own attention, enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 
> >
> 
> Whynot, Yep, you got it. It is very Buddhistic like in practice. The teachers 
> introduce it telling how to use the 'attention' then turn on the gizmo that 
> conducts the meditation. 

Then you keep eyes open? On the video it says: visualizing Brahm, that's 
another new element.

>Also they may play a Maharishi or Tony tape.  People are there experientially 
>for the technique.  The point is to sit through the guided meditation.  It is 
>a type of samyama when you get the hang of it.  That is my experience being 
>there.
> 
> Best Regards,
> -Buck in FF
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

[curtisdeltablues]

Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. 

But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional 
punching bag this Christmas.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s
> 
> 
> 
> Curtis,
> 
> 
> So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* 
> that better captures your posting voice)
> to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive 
> by, we
> were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do
> have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me
> $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, 
> Bubbles,
> and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick
> received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. 
> 
> 
> Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining 
> communications should be stopped, 
> 
> at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is 
> this a rerun? And it's
> completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long
> as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so 
> obviously
> provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected,
> for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely 
> un-cool.
> In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot
> around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the 
> first
> to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help
> with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of
> *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to
> post out again): "The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL".
> But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at
> reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving 
> your
> Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi 
> because
> he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never
> forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very 
> seriously:
> My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  
> 
> 
> I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your 
> ciphers, to line up single file, to
> avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like
> Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's
> shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every
> hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as
> Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes
> and sizes.   
> 
> 
> I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, 
> before entering into a conversation
> about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let
> me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your
> buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not 
> perfectly;
> till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue "to do the same
> thing over and over and expect different results"; the break through came
> a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as 
> if he
> had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette
> seemed to be saying: 
> 
> 
> "I think it's very important to know when to stop". 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-I&feature=related
> 
> 
> PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still 
> pondering that KOAN you shared with us that
> bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously 
> bullying
> MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going
> these days, your dialogues are missed.  The *nice* thing about the handle 
> *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all
> the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming,
> the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite 
> look mushy,
> your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your
> spelling mistake, and your "Most disgusting..." post to me will forever
> weld you to your *Bubbles*, and your behavior of choice (starts with an h and 
> ends with an y).
> 
> 
> PPS: Bubbles, be careful about twisting your neck into a pretzel pretending 
> you don't spend your life reading
> everything posted on FFL; the chiropractor was right, you're not exactly a 
> spring chicken. I hadn't realized how much 
> 
> Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama, those Dutch people are 
> pretty tolerant, why don't you try
> telling the waitress what's upsetting you so much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
> 
> I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
> when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
> happens from time to time. :-)
> 
> All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
> need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
> other people on this forum and either what you think
> of them or what they think of you.
>

Checking the water to see if the crocodile was paying attention and he grabbed 
the chicken on the string. As the crocodile sinks out of sight, back into the 
brackish water, "Bubbles," are seen on the surface. 
 Test completed. : ) (You do read the posts for which you claim not to?)
Your above quote about "some of you," are you placing users in a same category 
of who you think are needing, "to get a life that doesn't revolve around the 
other people on this forum," when that may just be in your own head? LOL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[obbajeeba]

Originally, was this some of the technology if one calls it that, for which 
Doug Henning was working on for Vedaland?   I remember hearing of different 
types of experiences to be presented to show the correlation of the physiology 
and vedic knowledge.  
The LED thing is what brought this to mind. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a group 
> as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are simply 
> pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being something up 
> in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to simply place their 
> attention on the blinking body part, which is synchronized to the particular 
> Vedic hymn being played at the time. This then promotes healing or at least 
> waking up that particular area of the body by the attendee's own attention, 
> enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
> > >
> > > its not mindfulness
> > 
> > So what is it according to you? Really a kind of a technique, or just a 
> > knowledge presentation? Tell us, what do TMers feel that it is?
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

[Vaj]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:53 AM, zarzari_786 wrote:

Coming to think of it, given the time frame, it is likely MMY was  
influenced to some degree by SA. SA, when the topic came up,  
somebody wanted to popularize his teachings in the US, saying that  
he should offer some courses, something like a formula, as this was  
sucessfull with Vivekanada and Yogananda, simply refused. MMY was  
at Aurobindo Ashram, I heard trying to persuade some Ashramite to  
join him. So his project of transforming world consciousness may  
well have been informed by SA. Also, the whole story about absolute  
body, sounds a lot like SA's supramental body. Creating a new man  
was really SA's project. SA regarded himself as a tantric yogi. So  
MMY may have taken the 'uniqueness' and 'rediscovery of a lost  
knowledge' as a traditionalists version of the new yoga.



It always seemed clear that Mahesh was getting material from both  
Aurobindo AND Yogananda - both of which are from his caste.

[FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> > 
> > > I for example compare the TM movement to the Sri Aurobindo Ashram,  
> > > where the last leader died about 40 years ago. I just met an old  
> > > lady, who works there in the Ashram since 40 years, is now 75 years  
> > > old, and to my opinion, has the typical TB mindset. She still  
> > > experienced the master (Mira Alfassa) about 3 years, if so, from a  
> > > distance (balcony darshans). And I just read a book by Peter Heehs  
> > > on Sri Aurobindo, and as I thought it was actually a very positive  
> > > review of his life. But it stirred up the whole Ashram, lead to a  
> > > huge controversy, the book is actually forbidden in India (the  
> > > lives of Sri Aurobindo), while most ashramites have read  
> > > photocopies. The book is published by the cambridge universtity  
> > > press, and directed to academics, not devotees. Yet it is in no way  
> > > deferrential, but it happens to mention certain biographic facts,  
> > > seen as a no no by the ashramites. Now the funny thing is, that the  
> > > ashram leadership, might actually have inspired the book, and is  
> > > not really against it. (they don't endorse it either) That in  
> > > itself is the reason for controversy, as it seems there is a group  
> > > of fundamentalists who want to overtake the Ashram. Right now there  
> > > are efforts on the way, to deprive Heehs of his visa, he lives  
> > > since decades in India, and was one of the main Ashram archivars,  
> > > the book was originally approved by the ashram leadership (without  
> > > reading it) before it was published.
> > >
> > > Also, the philospophy of Aurobindo is elitary, by definition, he  
> > > says that nobody before embarked on this type of yoga or knowledge.  
> > > So, for Ashramites, anybody practicing a more traditional form of  
> > > yoga misses out on the new yoga. (The old yoga has its basis in the  
> > > 'overmind', with all its gods, which is something like 'supermind'  
> > > gone wrong) And the only way is to be devoted to SA and / or Mirra  
> > > Alfassa. There is a similar idea like in TM, that 'we are the ones  
> > > doing the transformation for the world, unprecedented, for all  
> > > times to come' And it's all there in the writings of SA.
> > 
> > 
> > You have to wonder how much of this is part of their caste mindsets,  
> > as both Mahesh and Aurobindo come from the same caste.
> >
> Really? I didn't know that. Caste always plays a role in India, but bear in 
> mind that SA was educated in England. While I think that it plays a definte 
> role with MMY, I don't think that SA would subscribe to it. But it may be 
> there subconsciously, go to SA Ashram, most Indians there are from either 
> Bengal or Orissa, but the local Tamils there are like the servants, same in 
> Auroville, not present in the leadership. 
> 
> Yet SA was already a star much before he became a guru, after he was 
> imprisoned in Alipur by the English, he was an independence fighter around 
> 1906-1910, much before Gandhi appeared on the scene in the 1930ies, he 
> actually coined the words 'passive resisitence', which was finally 
> popularised by Gandhi (in a different, more exclusive way). People saw in him 
> a guru before he became a spiritual figure. He was always used to being 
> looked up to and attracted masses.
>

Coming to think of it, given the time frame, it is likely MMY was influenced to 
some degree by SA. SA, when the topic came up, somebody wanted to popularize 
his teachings in the US, saying that he should offer some courses, something 
like a formula, as this was sucessfull with Vivekanada and Yogananda, simply 
refused. MMY was at Aurobindo Ashram, I heard trying to persuade some Ashramite 
to join him. So his project of transforming world consciousness may well have  
been informed by SA. Also, the whole story about absolute body, sounds a lot 
like SA's supramental body. Creating a new man was really SA's project. SA 
regarded himself as a tantric yogi. So MMY may have taken the 'uniqueness' and 
'rediscovery of a lost knowledge' as a traditionalists version of the new yoga.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a group 
> as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are simply 
> pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being something up 
> in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to simply place their 
> attention on the blinking body part, which is synchronized to the particular 
> Vedic hymn being played at the time. This then promotes healing or at least 
> waking up that particular area of the body by the attendee's own attention, 
> enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 
>

Whynot, Yep, you got it. It is very Buddhistic like in practice. The teachers 
introduce it telling how to use the 'attention' then turn on the gizmo that 
conducts the meditation. Also they may play a Maharishi or Tony tape.  People 
are there experientially for the technique.  The point is to sit through the 
guided meditation.  It is a type of samyama when you get the hang of it.  That 
is my experience being there.

Best Regards,
-Buck in FF

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.

I honestly don't think about you much at all, except
when you post something funny. Which, to your credit,
happens from time to time. :-)

All in all, though, I think some of you on this forum
need to get a life that doesn't revolve around the
other people on this forum and either what you think
of them or what they think of you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> RD,
> 
> Since the *attempted* cyber lynching appears to be all but over, except for 
> the clean up, I have a couple of questions for you below; 
> 
> 
> From: raunchydog 
> 
> Hi Robin, 
> 
> 
> RD: I really don't know Ravi very well at all. I haven't read his posts 
> with much interest except to notice that he has had some enjoyable back 
> and forth banter with Denise/Emily and Bob Price. My initial experience 
> of Ravi was about a year ago when he got into such a depressive state 
> that we had extensive discussions about his mental health and concern 
> that he might commit suicide. Since then I see that he has come back from 
> the brink but rightly or wrongly, I still see him as an unstable 
> individual with the potential to go off the rails again. Given his 
> history, I think Alex's explanation for what might have happened with 
> Ravi in the past seems to ring true.
> 
> 
> ***BP: Do I understand correctly that the reason you *attempted* to provoke 
> Ravi was your concern for his mental stability? 
>

Incorrect. I've already explained the motivation for my actions and the 
sequence of events here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297639 

Out of respect for your friendship with Ravi, I'll answer you question. Just 
for the record, despite the row I've had with Ravi, I don't dislike him. Since 
I'm going into far more detail explaining myself than I expected, I hope you 
will at least follow the threads I have outlined before judging me.

In a nutshell: Ravi gay baited Alex. I gay baited Ravi. Ravi ranted about 
blowjobs. I dropped it here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297404 

I thought Ravi dropped it here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297409 

Then I commented on Vaj's link here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297443

Ravi took offense and for no apparent reason, he launched into another abusive 
rant about blowjobs here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297571

At that point Rick stepped in and I stepped back. I did not respond to Ravi's 
rant. In fact I'm on record saying Ravi should not be censored here: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297765

I don't know anything about Ravi's mental health other than he is no longer 
talking about suicide. For all the reasons I explained, the notion that I 
provoked Ravi because I was concerned for his mental stability seems to imply 
cruel intent on my part and is simply not true.

>
Do I also understand correctly that the *attempted* lynching of Raja Ravi Yogi, 
by pretty much all of FFL (excluding Judy, Edg and Oboe) was also out of 
concern for his mental health;
>

I doubt it, but you'll have to ask them.

>
and we should ignore the fact that the *attempted* lynching was lead by those 
paragons of emotional maturity Curtis and Bubbles? 
>

Curtis can speak for himself. I note that Judy has a serious beef with him for 
his hypocrisy concerning Barry and Vaj then choosing to pile on Ravi. I like 
Curtis, but I tend to agree with her about his hypocrisy in general on the 
Barry/Vaj front, but that's another story. 

Who's Bubbles? By the way "lynching" is a bit of a loaded word for historical 
reasons and unfairly prejudices this discussion. 

>
In addition, the stated fact: "I really don't know Ravi very well at all." is 
no barrier to your meditation or an accurate diagnosis of his mental state, and 
further, being the trained mental health professionals that you and the Alex 
must so obviously be, the two of you had no doubt that provoking him was the 
high road to his recovery? I want to thank you for clearing that up; I'm a bit 
slow; I had thought it was that the two of you were being passive aggressive 
and working on some issues, and Ravi, as always, was more than
>  happy to help you out. 
> 

I get it that you want to defend Ravi. But sarcasm doesn't further, discussion. 
It only shows you're angry with me and would rather hurt me than give me a fair 
hearing. I don't know Ravi. I only know that we were concerned for his life 
about a year ago. I don't know his mental state now, but I can assure you, it 
had nothing to do with how I choose to interact with him. I'm happy he is no 
longer suicidal. I don't know if that was a one time event in his life or if it 
can happen again. Nobody knows.
 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgKXK9giPYQ&feature=related
> 
> 
> Alex: "I can see why many traditions of awakening get the samskara/vasana 
> inner work out of the way before awakening, because once sole identity 
> with the I/me story is broken, it is tempting to disregard the story as 
> unimportant and let it act out messily. Also, for people with serious 
> mental health issues, nondual awakening can make matters worse."
> 
> 
> ***BP: I'm sure I'm wrong about

[FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> 
> > I for example compare the TM movement to the Sri Aurobindo Ashram,  
> > where the last leader died about 40 years ago. I just met an old  
> > lady, who works there in the Ashram since 40 years, is now 75 years  
> > old, and to my opinion, has the typical TB mindset. She still  
> > experienced the master (Mira Alfassa) about 3 years, if so, from a  
> > distance (balcony darshans). And I just read a book by Peter Heehs  
> > on Sri Aurobindo, and as I thought it was actually a very positive  
> > review of his life. But it stirred up the whole Ashram, lead to a  
> > huge controversy, the book is actually forbidden in India (the  
> > lives of Sri Aurobindo), while most ashramites have read  
> > photocopies. The book is published by the cambridge universtity  
> > press, and directed to academics, not devotees. Yet it is in no way  
> > deferrential, but it happens to mention certain biographic facts,  
> > seen as a no no by the ashramites. Now the funny thing is, that the  
> > ashram leadership, might actually have inspired the book, and is  
> > not really against it. (they don't endorse it either) That in  
> > itself is the reason for controversy, as it seems there is a group  
> > of fundamentalists who want to overtake the Ashram. Right now there  
> > are efforts on the way, to deprive Heehs of his visa, he lives  
> > since decades in India, and was one of the main Ashram archivars,  
> > the book was originally approved by the ashram leadership (without  
> > reading it) before it was published.
> >
> > Also, the philospophy of Aurobindo is elitary, by definition, he  
> > says that nobody before embarked on this type of yoga or knowledge.  
> > So, for Ashramites, anybody practicing a more traditional form of  
> > yoga misses out on the new yoga. (The old yoga has its basis in the  
> > 'overmind', with all its gods, which is something like 'supermind'  
> > gone wrong) And the only way is to be devoted to SA and / or Mirra  
> > Alfassa. There is a similar idea like in TM, that 'we are the ones  
> > doing the transformation for the world, unprecedented, for all  
> > times to come' And it's all there in the writings of SA.
> 
> 
> You have to wonder how much of this is part of their caste mindsets,  
> as both Mahesh and Aurobindo come from the same caste.
>
Really? I didn't know that. Caste always plays a role in India, but bear in 
mind that SA was educated in England. While I think that it plays a definte 
role with MMY, I don't think that SA would subscribe to it. But it may be there 
subconsciously, go to SA Ashram, most Indians there are from either Bengal or 
Orissa, but the local Tamils there are like the servants, same in Auroville, 
not present in the leadership. 

Yet SA was already a star much before he became a guru, after he was imprisoned 
in Alipur by the English, he was an independence fighter around 1906-1910, much 
before Gandhi appeared on the scene in the 1930ies, he actually coined the 
words 'passive resisitence', which was finally popularised by Gandhi (in a 
different, more exclusive way). People saw in him a guru before he became a 
spiritual figure. He was always used to being looked up to and attracted masses.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > What I've noticed for some time is that there are
> > some people on this forum who not only feel that
> > they have the right to use the people whose ideas
> > they don't like as punching bags, they actually
> > seem to feel that their victims "owe it to them"
> > to punch back.
> > 
> > I owe them nothing. Nada. Zip. Bupkus. They can
> > say anything about me they want, and chances are
> > (for the 6 people on my "written off as bad bets"
> > list) I'll never even see what they write. This seems
> > to piss them off no end, because what they seem
> > to want is for me to take what they write -- and
> > them -- seriously, and "get into it" with them,
> > in some head-to-head argument that they can then
> > imagine they "won." Not gonna happen.
> 
> I mean, you gotta admit, that it is a little odd that maybe 90% of Barry's 
> interactions here are between BarryI and BarryII.  I guess that's what they 
> call inadvertent irony.  
> 
> But I wonder why Barry feels like he needs to reiterate this other point 
> repeatedly.  He's made it clear that he doesn't read the posts of certain 
> people, and has it in his mind that they are wringing their hands about it.
> 
> And then he sets up the big "gotcha", that if you respond to something he 
> says, then it proves whatever point he is trying to make.  Oh well. 
> 
> P.S.  I like Barry, but I don't think he cares for me much.
>

I like Barry too, but I don't think he cares for me much either.
 He probably will not read this post. Probably because this thread has the  
name Ravi in it. : )
[As Judy's fingers spread across her keyboard typing all the characters at 
once, resembling a Chopin recitation, holding back from posting one more post 
for the week that would lead to her 51st post, she sits shifting her buttocks 
in the seat, her eyebrows twitch side to side, mouth partially open, 3M sticky 
Post-it over the web cam of her computer, she begs her mind to close the eyes..]

Re: [FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

[Vaj]

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, zarzari_786 wrote:

I for example compare the TM movement to the Sri Aurobindo Ashram,  
where the last leader died about 40 years ago. I just met an old  
lady, who works there in the Ashram since 40 years, is now 75 years  
old, and to my opinion, has the typical TB mindset. She still  
experienced the master (Mira Alfassa) about 3 years, if so, from a  
distance (balcony darshans). And I just read a book by Peter Heehs  
on Sri Aurobindo, and as I thought it was actually a very positive  
review of his life. But it stirred up the whole Ashram, lead to a  
huge controversy, the book is actually forbidden in India (the  
lives of Sri Aurobindo), while most ashramites have read  
photocopies. The book is published by the cambridge universtity  
press, and directed to academics, not devotees. Yet it is in no way  
deferrential, but it happens to mention certain biographic facts,  
seen as a no no by the ashramites. Now the funny thing is, that the  
ashram leadership, might actually have inspired the book, and is  
not really against it. (they don't endorse it either) That in  
itself is the reason for controversy, as it seems there is a group  
of fundamentalists who want to overtake the Ashram. Right now there  
are efforts on the way, to deprive Heehs of his visa, he lives  
since decades in India, and was one of the main Ashram archivars,  
the book was originally approved by the ashram leadership (without  
reading it) before it was published.


Also, the philospophy of Aurobindo is elitary, by definition, he  
says that nobody before embarked on this type of yoga or knowledge.  
So, for Ashramites, anybody practicing a more traditional form of  
yoga misses out on the new yoga. (The old yoga has its basis in the  
'overmind', with all its gods, which is something like 'supermind'  
gone wrong) And the only way is to be devoted to SA and / or Mirra  
Alfassa. There is a similar idea like in TM, that 'we are the ones  
doing the transformation for the world, unprecedented, for all  
times to come' And it's all there in the writings of SA.



You have to wonder how much of this is part of their caste mindsets,  
as both Mahesh and Aurobindo come from the same caste.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

[zarzari_786]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> I am not a TMer, but my impression is that the course is conducted in a group 
> as was shown, and various parts of the physiology of the model are simply 
> pulsed on and off, to the sounds of the Veda. Rather than being something up 
> in the mind, the participants are probably instructed to simply place their 
> attention on the blinking body part, which is synchronized to the particular 
> Vedic hymn being played at the time. This then promotes healing or at least 
> waking up that particular area of the body by the attendee's own attention, 
> enlivened by the Vedic vibrations. 

Well, that sounds like a guided meditation to me. You could easily imagine that 
this can be put  DVD and with the instructions of where to place your attention 
to, you simply listen to the vedic hymns. You could also select the organs you 
want to attend to, or just go through the main ones. 



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
> > >
> > > its not mindfulness
> > 
> > So what is it according to you? Really a kind of a technique, or just a 
> > knowledge presentation? Tell us, what do TMers feel that it is?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

[whynotnow7]

He actually keeps lists of people he doesn't like, up to six now, on this forum 
alone? If that is the case, I am pretty sure it doesn't stop with FFL. 

I wonder if he scribbles the names down feverishly on little Post-It notes 
while in his cubicle at work? Folding them and thrusting them deep into the 
pocket of his Dockers, so that the next time he visits a cafe for some 
unloading, I mean writing, and draws a blank, he can plunge his grimy hand into 
his right front pocket and out emerges his little hater list. Ahh, Inspiration!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > What I've noticed for some time is that there are
> > some people on this forum who not only feel that
> > they have the right to use the people whose ideas
> > they don't like as punching bags, they actually
> > seem to feel that their victims "owe it to them"
> > to punch back.
> > 
> > I owe them nothing. Nada. Zip. Bupkus. They can
> > say anything about me they want, and chances are
> > (for the 6 people on my "written off as bad bets"
> > list) I'll never even see what they write. This seems
> > to piss them off no end, because what they seem
> > to want is for me to take what they write -- and
> > them -- seriously, and "get into it" with them,
> > in some head-to-head argument that they can then
> > imagine they "won." Not gonna happen.
> 
> I mean, you gotta admit, that it is a little odd that maybe 90% of Barry's 
> interactions here are between BarryI and BarryII.  I guess that's what they 
> call inadvertent irony.  
> 
> But I wonder why Barry feels like he needs to reiterate this other point 
> repeatedly.  He's made it clear that he doesn't read the posts of certain 
> people, and has it in his mind that they are wringing their hands about it.
> 
> And then he sets up the big "gotcha", that if you respond to something he 
> says, then it proves whatever point he is trying to make.  Oh well. 
> 
> P.S.  I like Barry, but I don't think he cares for me much.
>