[FairfieldLife] ColorCoded(TM) agnimiile!
Rgveda I, 1, 1 agnimiile purohitaMyajñasya devamRtvijamhotaaraM ratnadhaatamam pada-paaTha: agnim iile puro-hitaMyajñasya devam RtvijamhotaaraM ratna-dhaatamam A.A. Macdonell's translation: I magnify Agni the domestic priest,the divine ministrant of the sacrifice,the invoker, best bestower of tresure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Yes, I do believe we've heard all this from you before, more than once. What was the relevance to the issue of whether TM is a Hindu devotional practice? Really, Michael, it's getting a little worrisome. Whenever you're challenged, you just seem to sort of zone out and sing one of your old familiar choruses to yourself. It's a version of Lalalalala, I can't hear you. It's probably the effect of spiritism which could make people hallucinate and loose contact with the facts of normal life. History is full of examples of spiritists that lost it big time and ended up in places you wouldn't want to go. Living in a fantasy that others are bad is a side-effect of spiritism the MJ does his outmost to prove here.
[FairfieldLife] Catching the Big Fish (FULL AUDIOBOOK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=3QsTnxUTx7U
[FairfieldLife] Special today on Communion Wine Coolers
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[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Thank you - and, for the time being, you and others call it the ho-hum of the Universe.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I think Marshy called it the hum of the Universe From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Thanks for bringing up a traditional use of the mantra as pure sound value. I am hardly knowledgeable about the Veda, but it IS all about the transformation and manifestation of vibration (sound). Aside from doing my 9th grade science project on what sound waves at various frequencies look like, when iron filings on an aluminum sheet are laid atop a speaker, and later, all the TM stuff, that's about as far as it goes for me. Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I didn't say it was HIndu worship, I said it is a Hindu devotional practice Oh, please. That's a distinction without a difference, and you know it. emptybill's posts are a strong rebuttal of your skinboy pal's claims, and you've made it only too clear you have no substantive counter-rebuttal. If somebody else has a good response, let's hear it. We're sure not going to get one from Michael. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back àempty, if I may, I'm going to quote your follow-up post reinforcing the point: Baba Hari Dass is an impeccable yogin possessed of vairagya and dispossessed of any agenda. He is the yogin's yogin. My point was to call attention to an alternate authoritative source - someone able to explain the distinction between mantra-dhyana and mantra-japa. The key is to recognize that a mantra can be used in meditation simply for its sound value, without any reference to meaning. While this may seem over-obvious to TM and Sahaj Samadhi meditators, this is what demarcates it from ordinary language. Used in this way, mantric sound is part of the human sensorium but is self-generated in the same way that speech is. This kind of bare sensoria is non-conceptual and does not require analysis to be perceived. Bija mantras are yogic tools for just this type of non-conceptual (nirvikalpa) direct cognition. The fact is that MMY told us the truth about mantras and their proper yogic use in TM. The cultural artifact is that Indians use mantras for Japa to a hindu deity - it is just a datum of the Indian mind set. No self-respecting Hindu conducts their life without a least 20-30 mantras on-hand at all times (except the Indian communists). TM/Sahaj Samadhi meditators do not, unless they choose to worship a deva. When someone tells us such meditation is hindu worship then they are simply misinformed, ignorant or ideologues. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill wrote: Outside of your personal opinions, your statements about the TM technique are not accurate. M.Jack says: TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. In reply, here is a previous post discussing the differences between meditation-mantra and devotional-japa. \ * Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by some former TM'ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the meaning of mantras. Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. These are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit letters composing the written forms of the mantric sound. This textual assignment is sometimes done haphazardly and occasionally is done in the Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda. Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a statement by MMY, declaring that a mantra is a sound whose effect is known. This argument quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it produces in causing the spontaneous refinement
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special today on Communion Wine Coolers
LOL! I want that sign!!! Jai Guru Margarita --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207312_454334346\ 8320_1816134214_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Kumbha Mela 2013 - a Personal Journey by Andrew Lawson Kerr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9P5m2CHdsw
[FairfieldLife] Fw: Dolphins Have Their Own Names for Each Other
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Emily
As for compatability, that totally depends on how the other person feels about barnacle comments ho ho. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi Ravi, you just made my evening. So funny, you are. Share, did you find this funny? Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility exists between the two of you? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Share, Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas. I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary. Love, Ravi On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing with each other. They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me. For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him. You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF. Even Judy responded to you about that. Twice. That's when I realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have avoided you. I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me. Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to Buck this morning. But you missed it too, didn't you? When you said: wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc. Again, this is just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way. By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you recently in Jan. No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse coming to the aid of a damsel in distress. Which is what you used to do when he came to my defense. Remember? So it's ok when he comes to your defense but not when he comes to mine? Why is that? I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with you. And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other posters. So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an interaction with me this year. Especially since it seems you've already come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post. Which is your right of course. But generally I won't be participating in such. There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL. to Judy: when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January 2013. I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste. In any case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me. That's your spin on it. I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose name I wouldn't have recognized anyway. I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me. I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or holding a grudge against me. You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts. to Ravi: I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve. Nor did I at that time even know who Ravi Yogi is. Actually I skimmed Steve's post so didn't register his reference to Ravi Yogi at all. You are of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back barnacles
I read them all too. But it took longer than the 2 minutes it took Judy. And I skimmed! Very bad! As my karmic retribution I missed the barnacle comment. I LOVE barnacle comments. I think we need more barnacle comments on FFL. Well technically use of the word more is not completely accurate. I mean we need more DIRECT barnacle comments not simply all this referring to another source. We need our very own FFL barnacle comments. Like: turq! very creative to give Ann a barnacle as a prom corsage. But I'm not 100% sure it will match her dress. oy, comedian still in training, have mercy, don't throw barnacles, thank you From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back Talk about devotion. To which cause, I don't know. But reading all the comments? Is barnacle a derogatory word? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: and if you have read all of the comments, you will see the TM people are bitching about the article not being positive enough! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Hah! Was I ever wrong! They just posted another eight comments, seven of which were positive, and the eighth of which was...Michael's. (Don Sosin made one too, BTW--positive, obviously.) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html#commentsContainer http://tinyurl.com/atqaxgx --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: So since they aren't posting my comment - here it is: FWIW, no new comments have been posted since the seven positive ones that were up last night. I'd guess that there will be another batch up soon (checking the comments for this piece is most likely not that high on the Times's priority list). I further predict that when the new comments go up, there will be a number of negative ones, but they will not include Michael's. Michael, just for the heck of it, I've edited your comment to reflect what I think they would be a lot more likely to publish: I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM cheerleader. But as the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to what I perceived as the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to restore TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. And that would be all right as long as the organization was upfront about it. In my observation, the Times likes its Comments sections to reflect many different points of view, but it avoids comments that are likely to start fights or, goodness knows, invite legal problems. Your comment as submitted had a good chance of doing both. I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM fanatic and cheerleader. As the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered, especially the awful, arrogant deceitful behavior of even the low to mid level managers of the TM organization, much less the leaders of the Movement. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to sanitize the TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. 1976 was the year their Maharishi announced the TM Sidhi program to the world. The TM Movement can honestly be characterized as a decades long flow of dishonesty and deceit, taking money under false pretenses and very unpleasant behavior on the part of those who administrate the Movement. I had the pleasure of speaking at some length with someone who spent years as Maharishi's personal secretary and for all his praise of the man, this person told me that it was clear that the leader of the TM movement was totally focused on sex, money and personal power. What the Big M created, his Movement perpetuates. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. And that is alright as long as you are upfront about what you are doing. For my money and in my experience, TM is one big scam. After more than 20 years I stopped doing TM and never looked back.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
thanks Bhairitu, this came at just the right time. I had purchased a homeopathic remedy for dizzyness but am holding off taking it while I'm taking other stuff to strengthen the immune system and deal with a chest tickle. So it's great to have a sound. I've already tried it a few times. I think it helped. The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. Also my ailment, whatever it is, seems to be moving around. A friend suggested osha root for the chest tingle. It cured her laryngitis overnight! I could definitely do with some increased blood flow to the brain (-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru Though dizziness can be due to different reasons, for me often any dizzy spell was often relieved by practicing a kapha reducing mantra such as hoong. As you know the three doshas have their centers in different areas of the body. Vata in the groin area, pitta in the stomach and kapha in the head. Being somewhat balanced I observed that vata reducing mantras tended to send energy (and thus blood flow) downward (hence grounding). Kapha reducing mantras sent energy (and blood flow) upward to the head. My observation was that my dizziness was due to some reduced blood flow to the brain. On 02/23/2013 11:07 AM, Share Long wrote: Yeah, thank you, very useful. I looked up dizzyness and learned a whole bunch of natural ways to deal with it. Will definitely visit again. And pass it along to friends. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru You might enjoy this web site that has a lot of videos and info for simple ayurvedic home remedies. http://www.homeveda.com/ On 02/21/2013 02:42 PM, Share Long wrote: Well I eat a lot of cold food so I can't claim to follow a vata pacifying diet. I think they emphasize it here because the US lifestyle is so vata vitiating. Of course not so much in slow paced Fairfield. I'd say I'm definitely a mixed type. I'm doing very well avoiding high carb foods like pasta, rice, bread, also dairy. And I don't eat as much fish as I'd like to. Basically that means a lot of legumes. Also not vata pacifying! Noozguru wrote: Since we're all yogis a collapse shouldn't matter much to us. We can live with only a bedroll and toothbrush, right? :-D Me: maybe you yogis can, but as a yogini, I like a little comfort (-: Thank you for the info about East Indian style jyotish chart which I googled and found. Also for knowledge of Maran siddhis which I had not known about. Always a good day when I learn something new. Snow began just as they predicted around 2 pm Central. A steady fall, the kind that accumulates stealthily. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL Sometimes I think that MA emphasized vata imbalances so much that people may have way over treated for it. I get kapha quite fast using vata balancing herbs and diet. That's why I like the metabolic or nutritional typing methods as they classify one as being a carbohydrate type, protein type or mixed type. Also this can change just trying to adjust a little for some people. On 02/20/2013 12:15 PM, Share Long wrote: Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and I were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were having heart attacks. On the same day!
[FairfieldLife] REM - What's The Frequency Kenneth?
One of the best art bands ever! REM - What's The Frequency Kenneth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWkMhCLkVOg
[FairfieldLife] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWkMhCLkVOg Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) are from another planet.
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
Okay, it's Sunday morning now. Maybe we can get go get some bacon and eggs! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Excellent, Steve...simply EXCELLENT!  But, I've seen you do better, so keep trying - it is Saturday night, after all.  Perhaps you can go find Ann on the dance floor and ask her to take you for a spin.   From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. How'd I do? Â
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
You may be confusing me with Buzz Lightyear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Yes, Judy's the *best* Steve - but do keep trying, if at first to infinity, you don't succeed, try, try, again.  From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Non sequitur. Standing in opposition and putting down are two different things. I will let you win your battles on technical points. It is what brings you satisfaction, and wins you respect from others. You are FFL's #1 poster, so I'm glad there is something to show for the time you put in here.  Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. Aw, gee, Steve, you forgot already. I beat you to the punch on declining to argue with your idiotic attempt at a putdown. You're just too damned good Judy.Â
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. How'd I do? Keep up the good work, Steve. Judy needs a good smack-down once in a while and you're just the guy to do it. http://youtu.be/jGIAJ3IHML0 (Guffaw), where do you FIND these things?!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) are from another planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Special today on Communion Wine Coolers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207312_454334346\ 8320_1816134214_n.jpg] I'm sure Jesus will be glad to know he truly died for our si(g)ns.
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
Took you longer than I expected, but not bad. BTW, I do have picture of me with the Three Stooges when I was 5 or 6, when they were at the St. Louis Arena. One with the Lone Ranger too, I believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. How'd I do? Keep up the good work, Steve. Judy needs a good smack-down once in a while and you're just the guy to do it. http://youtu.be/jGIAJ3IHML0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Emily
You always make me smile. Or in this case laugh. Thanks. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: As for compatability, that totally depends on how the other person feels about barnacle comments ho ho. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi  Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility exists between the two of you?   From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi  And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Share, Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas. I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary. Love, Ravi On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  Ann, these examples of mine below have nothing to do with our disagreeing with each other. They were all instances where I was exchanging with SOME OTHER FFL POSTER and you responded, leading with a negative attitude towards me. For example, your assuming I'd call my ex ex if it bothered him. You also seem desperate to be negative about me when you leap on something casual I say, like you did with what I said about Norman churches in FF. Even Judy responded to you about that. Twice. That's when I realized how desperate you are to see me in a negative way and that is why I have avoided you. I'm not interested in dealing with your prejudices about me. Even today, you made fun of Mr. Leed for missing the humor of my post to Buck this morning. But you missed it too, didn't you? When you said: wouldn't a true sidha be able to walk to the Dome, etc. Again, this is just you seeing me and writing about me in a negative way. By the way, I noticed you didn't criticize Steve for taking up for you recently in Jan. No making fun of him for being a knight on a white horse coming to the aid of a damsel in distress. Which is what you used to do when he came to my defense. Remember? So it's ok when he comes to your defense but not when he comes to mine? Why is that? I've accepted that we're not compatible and I'm happy to not interact with you. And you don't seem to enjoy what I have to say, even when it's to other posters. So I wonder why you have kept trying to start an interaction with me this year. Especially since it seems you've already come to a negative conclusion about me and or what's in my post. Which is your right of course. But generally I won't be participating in such. There are more enjoyable and or enriching exchanges to be had on FFL.    to Judy: when I said Steve recently supported Ann, I was including January 2013. I'm pretty sure I did not reply to Ann before your reply to feste. In any case, I didn't BLAME her for not getting me. That's your spin on it. I skimmed Steve's post to Ravi and missed the bit about Ravi Yogi whose name I wouldn't have recognized anyway. I was talking about turq being ganged up on, not me. I'm not willing to be vulnerable with people who are prejudiced and or holding a grudge against me. You are of course entitled to your opinions about me and my posts. to Ravi: I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote my reply to Steve. Nor
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
The Stooges!! I tracked down and bought, both The Three Stooges Meet Hercules, and The Three Stooges In Outer Space - just to cover the entire spectrum of human existence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Took you longer than I expected, but not bad. BTW, I do have picture of me with the Three Stooges when I was 5 or 6, when they were at the St. Louis Arena. One with the Lone Ranger too, I believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. How'd I do? Keep up the good work, Steve. Judy needs a good smack-down once in a while and you're just the guy to do it. http://youtu.be/jGIAJ3IHML0
[FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons]
For some reason I feel like laughing this morning, and you are adding fuel to the fire. Thanks. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The Stooges!! I tracked down and bought, both The Three Stooges Meet Hercules, and The Three Stooges In Outer Space - just to cover the entire spectrum of human existence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Took you longer than I expected, but not bad. BTW, I do have picture of me with the Three Stooges when I was 5 or 6, when they were at the St. Louis Arena. One with the Lone Ranger too, I believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: (snip) I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more humble of the contributors here. snip I have to join the chorus here, even if belated. Steve is simply a nice guy, I never felt any kind of aggressions or put-downs from him. For the record, Steve is one of the most aggressive put-downers (down-putters?) on FFL. (And no, not just of me by any means!) I guess I should say thank you. To stand in opposition to you, on most things, would not bother me in the least. Would probably put me in the normal range on most scales. Oooopsie, did I forget the article? P.S. I am sorry I declined to participate in one of your never ending, Judy WINS, arguments a couple days ago. Maybe I can make it up to you somehow. How'd I do? Keep up the good work, Steve. Judy needs a good smack-down once in a while and you're just the guy to do it. http://youtu.be/jGIAJ3IHML0
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back barnacles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I read them all too. But it took longer than the 2 minutes it took Judy. And I skimmed! Very bad! As my karmic retribution I missed the barnacle comment. I LOVE barnacle comments. I think we need more barnacle comments on FFL. Well technically use of the word more is not completely accurate. I mean we need more DIRECT barnacle comments not simply all this referring to another source. We need our very own FFL barnacle comments. Like: turq! very creative to give Ann a barnacle as a prom corsage. But I'm not 100% sure it will match her dress. I do believe you could be right, it will certainly match my hat. oy, comedian still in training, have mercy, don't throw barnacles, thank you From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Talk about devotion. To which cause, I don't know. But reading all the comments? Is barnacle a derogatory word? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: and if you have read all of the comments, you will see the TM people are bitching about the article not being positive enough! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back àHah! Was I ever wrong! They just posted another eight comments, seven of which were positive, and the eighth of which was...Michael's. (Don Sosin made one too, BTW--positive, obviously.) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-me\ ditation.html#commentsContainer http://tinyurl.com/atqaxgx --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: So since they aren't posting my comment - here it is: FWIW, no new comments have been posted since the seven positive ones that were up last night. I'd guess that there will be another batch up soon (checking the comments for this piece is most likely not that high on the Times's priority list). I further predict that when the new comments go up, there will be a number of negative ones, but they will not include Michael's. Michael, just for the heck of it, I've edited your comment to reflect what I think they would be a lot more likely to publish: I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM cheerleader. But as the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to what I perceived as the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to restore TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. And that would be all right as long as the organization was upfront about it. In my observation, the Times likes its Comments sections to reflect many different points of view, but it avoids comments that are likely to start fights or, goodness knows, invite legal problems. Your comment as submitted had a good chance of doing both. I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM fanatic and cheerleader. As the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered, especially the awful, arrogant deceitful behavior of even the low to mid level managers of the TM organization, much less the leaders of the Movement. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to sanitize the TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. 1976 was the year their Maharishi announced the TM Sidhi program to the world. The TM Movement can honestly be characterized as a decades long flow of dishonesty and deceit, taking money under false pretenses and very unpleasant behavior on the part of those who administrate the Movement. I had the pleasure of speaking at some length with someone who spent years as Maharishi's personal secretary and for all his praise of the man, this person told me that it was clear that the leader of the TM movement was totally focused on sex, money and personal power. What the Big M created, his Movement perpetuates. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. And that is alright as long as you are upfront about what you are doing. For my money and in my experience, TM is one big scam. After more than 20 years I stopped doing TM and never looked back.
[FairfieldLife] Obama Digs Brains
What Our Brains Can Teach Us color: rgb(102, 102, 153);text-decoration: initial; Kristina Collantes AFTER President Obama's recent announcement of a plan to invigorate the study of neuroscience with what could amount to a $3 billion investment, a reasonable taxpayer might ask: Why brain science? Why now? Here's why. Imagine you were an alien catching sight of the Earth. Your species knows nothing about humans, let alone how to interpret the interactions of seven billion people in complex social networks. With no acquaintance with the nuances of human language or behavior, it proves impossible to decipher the secret idiom of neighborhoods and governments, the interplay of local and global culture, or the intertwining economies of nations. It just looks like pandemonium, a meaningless Babel. So it goes with the brain. We are the aliens in that landscape, and the brain is an even more complicated cipher. It is composed of 100 billion electrically active cells called neurons, each connected to many thousands of its neighbors. Each neuron relays information in the form of miniature voltage spikes, which are then converted into chemical signals that bridge the gap to other neurons. Most neurons send these signals many times per second; if each signaling event were to make a sound as loud as a pin dropping, the cacophony from a single human head would blow out all the windows. The complexity of such a system bankrupts our language; observing the brain with our current technologies, we mostly detect an enigmatic uproar. Looking at the brain from a distance isn't much use, nor is zooming in to a single neuron. A new kind of science is required, one that can track and analyze the activity of billions of neurons simultaneously. That's a tall order, but it's worth it, because this is an exceptionally personal mystery to crack. Our thoughts, desires, agonies and ecstasies all emerge from the details of the neural landscape. Just as an alien studying the planet could catalog several large-scale calamities disease epidemics, volcanic eruptions, political-feedback loops that lead to war so can we observe disasters transpiring in the dense communities of our brain cells. We give them names like neurodegeneration, stroke and epilepsy. But just because we can name them doesn't mean we know how to fix them. For example, we have little idea how to mend the damage from the widespread destruction of a traumatic brain injury (the signature injury of America's wars). The same goes for diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Huntington's, and for brain tumors, autism, dementia, paralysis and so on. While we have improved our ability to diagnose problems, we have yet to understand how to remedy them. Learning to better speak the language of the brain is our best hope for turning the chaos into order, for unmasking and addressing the hidden patterns behind disease. But deciphering the neural code is not only about physical health. Consider the implications for societal health. A deeper understanding of mental illness will improve early detection, resources and rehabilitation, potentially helping us find a way to stop using our prisons as a de facto mental health care system. Similarly, we can leverage brain science for a more cost-effective approach to drug crime. We cannot win the war on drugs simply by attacking supply; we must focus on demand. And that requires decoding the circuitry and pharmacology in the brain of the addict. Beyond social policy, a better understanding of the brain will steer the future of our technologies. Smart people have been beating at the door of artificial intelligence for decades with only limited success. Google Translate can convert any language to any other, but understands nothing of the content. Watson still can't answer simple questions like, When President Obama walks into a room, does his nose come with him? Our most promising hope for creating artificial intelligence is figuring out how natural intelligence works. It can also usher in an era of bio-inspired machinery. You can't pull a piece of circuitry out of your smartphone and expect the phone to function. But when a young child with severe epilepsy has half of her brain surgically removed, she tends to do just fine: the remaining brain tissue automatically rewires itself to take over responsibility for the parts that are missing. Similarly, when an animal breaks a leg, its brain adapts the gait of the remaining legs so the animal can keep moving. We don't know how to build self-configuring machines like these. When a Mars http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/mars_planet/index.htm\ l?inline=nyt-classifier rover loses a wheel, our investment ends: it becomes another piece of immovable space junk. Imagine a future in which we capitalize on the principles of neural reconfiguration, producing devices from smartphones to cars to space stations that flexibly adapt rather than bust. For now, the brain is
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back barnacles
Okay, Ann's sense of humor,which was always good has now been upgraded to top tier. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: I read them all too. But it took longer than the 2 minutes it took Judy. And I skimmed! Very bad! As my karmic retribution I missed the barnacle comment. I LOVE barnacle comments. I think we need more barnacle comments on FFL. Well technically use of the word more is not completely accurate. I mean we need more DIRECT barnacle comments not simply all this referring to another source. We need our very own FFL barnacle comments. Like: turq! very creative to give Ann a barnacle as a prom corsage. But I'm not 100% sure it will match her dress. I do believe you could be right, it will certainly match my hat. oy, comedian still in training, have mercy, don't throw barnacles, thank you From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Talk about devotion. To which cause, I don't know. But reading all the comments? Is barnacle a derogatory word? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: and if you have read all of the comments, you will see the TM people are bitching about the article not being positive enough! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back àHah! Was I ever wrong! They just posted another eight comments, seven of which were positive, and the eighth of which was...Michael's. (Don Sosin made one too, BTW--positive, obviously.) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-me\ \ ditation.html#commentsContainer http://tinyurl.com/atqaxgx --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: So since they aren't posting my comment - here it is: FWIW, no new comments have been posted since the seven positive ones that were up last night. I'd guess that there will be another batch up soon (checking the comments for this piece is most likely not that high on the Times's priority list). I further predict that when the new comments go up, there will be a number of negative ones, but they will not include Michael's. Michael, just for the heck of it, I've edited your comment to reflect what I think they would be a lot more likely to publish: I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM cheerleader. But as the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to what I perceived as the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to restore TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice of chanting (silently) the names of Hindu goddesses. And that would be all right as long as the organization was upfront about it. In my observation, the Times likes its Comments sections to reflect many different points of view, but it avoids comments that are likely to start fights or, goodness knows, invite legal problems. Your comment as submitted had a good chance of doing both. I began TM in 1974 and enjoyed it enough to become a real TM fanatic and cheerleader. As the years went by, I left the TM Movement due to the huge disconnect between the promises of TM and what it actually delivered, especially the awful, arrogant deceitful behavior of even the low to mid level managers of the TM organization, much less the leaders of the Movement. Lynch is spearheading a very carefully orchestrated effort to sanitize the TM's image to a pre-1976 luster. 1976 was the year their Maharishi announced the TM Sidhi program to the world. The TM Movement can honestly be characterized as a decades long flow of dishonesty and deceit, taking money under false pretenses and very unpleasant behavior on the part of those who administrate the Movement. I had the pleasure of speaking at some length with someone who spent years as Maharishi's personal secretary and for all his praise of the man, this person told me that it was clear that the leader of the TM movement was totally focused on sex, money and personal power. What the Big M created, his Movement perpetuates. TM is not a simple mental technique making use of meaningless sounds. It is in fact a Hindu devotional practice
[FairfieldLife] Ice Music
Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Music
beyond cool (-: From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ice Music Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. *Even* CDC? Wow. I guess it must really be true, then, huh? I mean, that's what just about every MD in world says-- you know, because antibiotics kill bacteria and not viruses. But all those MDs could be wrong, so we can never really be sure unless CDC agrees, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: (snip) The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. BTW, I'll bet a buck CDC also says you should always take the full amount of antibiotic prescribed, even if you're feeling better. That's because you want to kill off *all* the bacteria. If you only kill some of them, it can mean that the ones that survive are more resistant to the antibiotic, and when they revive the infection, you may have to take a stronger antibiotic, or more of it, or for a longer period, to get rid of the resistant ones too.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
I recently listened to the very same song. Love this video too. Live, Wembley, 1982 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) are from another planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Barry?  Barry who? Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that button pushing takes its toll.  Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share.  I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to compatibility. I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the crap, for his sake you understand. Share and I are selfless like that.  The very nice thank you for your reply sounds like you are making good progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners. It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks.  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and clarity and your manners, my dear, your manners. My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the manners).  From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your behavior include gratuitous, nasty, and overall -  negative.  Ann, there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop taking things so personally.  I'm not sure who here knows how to do that. Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems.  I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon. I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time finding abalone shoes to match the dress.  Love, Emily From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ravi, you just made my evening. àSo funny, you are. àShare, did you find this funny? àIs there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility exists between the two of you? ààA word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry regards as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean right. You'll have to ask him what he said - I've got to go and figure out what I'm going to wear to the prom. From: Ravi Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi àAnd oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share, Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas. I'm sick Share - have pity on me for god's sake. I'm just waiting for the ascended masters to haul my sorry ass into the age of Enlightenment, till then I keep posting all kinds of cool quotes, pictures from Gandhi, Teresa on my Facebook page. And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi
Ah, selfless does sound like a compatible quality. I think Xeno was exhibiting acceptance of whatever. Smile. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Barry?  Barry who? Look for the guy with the big callous on his right index finger. All that button pushing takes its toll.  Dear Ann, I'll have you know, I find you far more interesting and I've been laughing my ass off at you.  I particularly enjoy your exchanges with Share.  I can see that the two of you are moving closer and closer to compatibility. I do believe you may be correct here, dear Em, especially if by 'compatibl'e you mean more tolerant and willing to let a lot of things slide by unremarked upon. Although, now that Share and I both know how much Barry enjoys following our posts we may just have to keep pumping out the crap, for his sake you understand. Share and I are selfless like that.  The very nice thank you for your reply sounds like you are making good progress.  You are a hard case and a tough nut to crack, Ann, but someone is finally here to put you in your place and teach you a few manners. It's been tried before, with limited success. Hence, the lash marks.  You've been far too independent in your thought process; your sense of humor is much too irreverent.  Your insights lack both content and clarity and your manners, my dear, your manners. My mother, in all truthfulness, would be devastated to hear it (about the manners).  From where I sit, it is clear that the best descriptors around for your behavior include gratuitous, nasty, and overall -  negative.  Ann, there is a smidgen of hope for you, thanks be to God, but you must stop taking things so personally.  I'm not sure who here knows how to do that. Maybe Xeno could help me. Anyone who can listen to a potential terminal diagnosis and not take it personally can surely help me with my problems.  I think maybe Bob did, but I hear he is off traipsing through the Himalayas these days.  I'm rootin' for you Ann, I really am.  I hope you find the perfect prom dress that sets of your beautiful blue eyes with the perfect shade of lipstick to match and that you dance the night away in wild abandon. I would love to, I really would Emily but I am having a dickens of a time finding abalone shoes to match the dress.  Love, Emily From: Ann To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ravi, you just made my evening.  So funny, you are.  Share, did you find this funny?  Is there hope that the equivalent of a wee dram of compatibility exists between the two of you?   A word of caution here Emily. You are getting a tad close to what Barry regards as high school crap and if you aren't careful you may not be able to blow your nose. Or was it if you aren't smart enough dynamite will take the top of your head off? No, wait, I think he said if you blow your nose and brains come out you can't blame him. Damn, that can't be Wright, I mean right. You'll have to ask him what he said - I've got to go and figure out what I'm going to wear to the prom. From: Ravi Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex--this is spam! to Ann Judy Ravi  And oh - Ravi Yogi was some loser who used to post here - any coincidence, resemblance to me is imaginary Oh no - not that Ravi Yogi - I loved him once and got burned. He represents something unknown, mysterious, dangerous, he's walking on razor's edge, he will go down and take me down as well. I'm vulnerable and don't want to be harmed - no matter if he changes names, shows me how he leads as normal life as any - he is trouble. There's great safety in numbers, in the cult - haven't you read the Guru Gita - the Guru is stable, predictable, consistent, poses no threat, challenge to me and will lead me across. No thank you, Ravi Yogi's crazy - not again, never. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Share, Yay you are awesome - with your persistence I can clearly see I am very prejudiced and hold lots and lots of grudges, as thick as 6 inches of snow on the Fairfield dome, against you. My samskaras are fucked up, my aura too dense, my chakras totally polluted , karma - a big rap sheet, reincarnation - destined to the nether world, the abode of evil Rakshasaas. I'm sick Share - have
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice cubes. I sent an email to the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't heard back yet... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Snow Day
The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. Enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0feat=directlink
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Right. My question was, Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? The answer is that he said something a little different: mantras of personal gods, not names of personal gods. This is one of the things that emptybill pointed out. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Snow Day
Thank you raunchy; this warms my heart. These events are internalized in children's memories. We lived in wisconsin for a year before I was four, but I still remember the feeling of sledding down the hill in the backyard with my dad holding on to me. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Snow Day The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. Enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0feat=directlink
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
WOW! That was like chapter two from the original - always wanted to see the car in the first one - Great!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I recently listened to the very same song.  Love this video too.  Live, Wembley, 1982 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime  Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) are from another planet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Doc....Regarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences -
Dr. Dumbass, did you respond to this? I missed it. From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey DocRegarding psychedelic/hallucinogen drug experiences - Hey Doc, Sometime in this past week I read one of your responses on a thread. I forget the thread now. But I recall the essence of your response. (I couldn't respond at the time because I had carpal tunnel surgery this past Monday, 2/18, and wasn't able to really type and now can't remember where you commented. Sorry bout that.) Anyhoo...you stated something to the effect that a person's experience when under the influence of a psychedelic drug mirrored that person's internal state. (Again, going by memory ... so if I mis-understood, please correct me.) In my experience that isn't always true. An example would be the drug/herb jimson weed. Every experience I've ever read/heard has always been horrid hallucinations. (I danced with jimson weed when I was 15 years old and can atest to its horrors.) As far as other psychedelics, they each had their own nuance in my experiences. For example: Mescaline often made me laugh a lot. MDA made me horny. LSD afforded psychedelic sensory distortions. I'm of the opinion that different chemicals evoke various hormones (or whatevers) to respond...and thus a certain drugs/herbs can cause bad effects (bad trips) or good effects (good trips). I do think whatever one experiences within the good trip or the bad trip comes from somewhere in the person's psyche...but the drug used helps determine if what is pulled from the psyche is pleasurable or not pleasurable. (Hope that makes sense.) Eventually all my trips tuck a turn toward the dark side, which was probably a blessing because I gave up tripping. Hmmmthat is when I turned to TM by the way. Ha.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- general (some pointing out that TM is not the only worthwhile technique). You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted that there would be more than the original seven, and that they would include negative ones. The only thing I was wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish yours. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- general (some pointing out that TM is not the only worthwhile technique). You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted that there would be more than the original seven, and that they would include negative ones. The only thing I was wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish yours. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Emily, what is it you hate to say? Leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. I wonder why that part of her post didn't show up for you. And why? Just a wild guess: Because the TM critics on FFL are likely to find her observation annoying. I'm sure she'll correct me if I'm wrong. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my second wild guess, though. ;-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily  Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Or, maybe I said it that way because I was responding to Michael who has been critical - I was more acknowledging the benefits that seem apparent from the practice itself, separate from the org or guru who spearheaded the movement. I could have saidI will say, that the benefits of TM come across... From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
no surprise there since the TMO alerted all their pretend regular people like Tom Ball and Tammy Harshaw to huurry up and post a bunch of I love TM comments before real people see the article and tell the world what most people think of Marshy and TM From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. Yes, they put up another batch. There are 39 comments now; quite a few of the new ones are critical of TM, the TMO, and/or Lynch himself; a number of others are from practitioners of other techniques touting meditation-in- general (some pointing out that TM is not the only worthwhile technique). You seem to think the new comments somehow rebut something I've said, but I have no idea what it might be. I predicted that there would be more than the original seven, and that they would include negative ones. The only thing I was wrong about was my prediction that they wouldn't publish yours. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. But his explanations of how he combines meditation with psycho-sexual violence have never been very convincing, he probably never expected to get his orders to go out proselytising and didn't think he'd need to explain it. Not in a positive way anyway, if he said I just like weird, pervy shit and left it like that, no one would mind I'm sure. He did have a good chat up line though. When he met Isabella Rosselini he said: My God, you're so beautiful you could be Ingrid Bergman's daughter. And she replied: I am Ingrid Berman's daughter. Blue Velvet was his second best film which is interesting as he always says the TM experience takes him to greater creative heights but it seems that his career has been going downhill for a long time. Some good bits but the first few were classics, the rest like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are just tired and weird either for it's own sake or to detract from the fact no one could be bothered to finish the script. IMO of course.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's why it was over closed circuit tv From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram Ravi From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. snip So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a small handful of people personally in his last years living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took care of his personal needs. Everything else was via videoconference.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's why it was over closed circuit tv Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing them via videoconference. Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* suffering from dementia. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? That is correct. The abbreviated URL failed for some reason, it worked when I tested it before I put it in my post. The PDF file is located under FFL 'Files' in the folder 'Theory Spiritual Development', it is an excerpt of one day's lecture from 1955, plus a handwritten note by MMY at the beginning. Sorry the link I put in failed. Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. snip So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a small handful of people personally in his last years living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took care of his personal needs. Everything else was via videoconference. OK, but they kept it quiet from me and I knew someone on the first one and he didn't say: We got personal instruction daily, but only via TV. No one did, and as that is the strangest bit of the whole thing I'm sure someone would have mentioned it? I knew he never came out of his room but assumed he might have granted a meeting to a bunch of devotees who'd coughed up 1000 big ones. There ya go
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. They did? I knew about it long ago. I'd have been very surprised, in any case, if he had appeared in person. From everything I'd heard, he didn't see more than a small handful of people personally in his last years living at Vlodrop, and they were the folks who took care of his personal needs. Everything else was via videoconference. This is a well known fact and no secret at all. It seems Sal is rather uninformed as usual :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thanks for bringing up a traditional use of the mantra as pure sound value. I am hardly knowledgeable about the Veda, but it IS all about the transformation and manifestation of vibration (sound). Aside from doing my 9th grade science project on what sound waves at various frequencies look like, when iron filings on an aluminum sheet are laid atop a speaker, and later, all the TM stuff, that's about as far as it goes for me. Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) Doc, I really appreciate your writings about enlightenment. Spot on in my experience too. For a while I was thinking of saving your quips about this as aphorisms but I ain't got the time to edit that now. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it disturbing and MJ calls it trash. Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for bringing up a traditional use of the mantra as pure sound value. I am hardly knowledgeable about the Veda, but it IS all about the transformation and manifestation of vibration (sound). Aside from doing my 9th grade science project on what sound waves at various frequencies look like, when iron filings on an aluminum sheet are laid atop a speaker, and later, all the TM stuff, that's about as far as it goes for me. Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) Doc, I really appreciate your writings about enlightenment. Spot on in my experience too. For a while I was thinking of saving your quips about this as aphorisms but I ain't got the time to edit that now. -Buck Nowadays, its either my tinnitus, or everything sings, or both.:-) I must say I love that quote too :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing them via videoconference. Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* suffering from dementia. More likely severe confusion brought about by contact with too many disembodied souls.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at the top of the list. Perhaps the NYT list will have some more positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? poor PR job if it doesn't. Might offer them my services again. If the price is right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it disturbing and MJ calls it trash. Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea. Ill wager that if Lynch didn't do TM, you'd think it was trash too. Not just an idea. PS To me, disturbing is good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I believe he was already in the beginning stages of dementia and his handlers wouldn't let him be seen by anyone - that's why it was over closed circuit tv Well, of course. There's no way you could possibly tell if someone was suffering from dementia just from seeing them via videoconference. I could tell there was something seriously wrong with him during his appearances on the Marshy channel, shaking hands, forgetfulness, repetitive speech and all his fading in and out of conciousness. Probably enough for a doctor to make a preliminary diagnosis or have him brought into hospital. It was certainly enough for me to think he should be propped up in bed with a hot water bottle at the very least, and not waffling on live television. I thought that if they cared about him at all they would make him lie down and rest, it wasn't like he was making sense at that stage. Jesus, Michael. You're beginning to sound like *you're* suffering from dementia. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It really backfired in the Guardian once when one of the regular commenters noticed that all the positive remarks were from people who joined within an hour or so of the article appearing. Made me laugh as I knew everyone and found it quite sweet that they had all got the hang of modern PR methods as they were usually not the most tech- nically minded people I'd ever met. So it's good that the NYT have posted negative stuff too as some of it is rather interesting. But the most interesting bit for me is that MMY didn't actually appear in person on the millionaires courses. I didn't know that, the big attraction for everyone of course was the personal intuition, but via TV! Very odd behaviour, and they kept it quiet very well. But what did the CPs think? I guess if you've handed over that much dosh to who knows where you must be used to the TMO way of operating. I would be well hacked off of course, but then I wouldn't have given them the cash in the first place so it's probably self selecting who gets disappointed with the misleading course details.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it disturbing and MJ calls it trash. Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea. I must say I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive, and thought there were many spiritual clues in it, but none of my friends whom I forced to see it shared my enthusiasm. I saw Eraserhead only on youtube, I found it interesting, but couldn't make so much out of it. Generally I like mysterious and surreal movies. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lynchian 1. lynchian adj. - having the same balance between the macabre and the mundane found in the works of filmmaker David Lynch. a lynchian juxtaposition of perversion with americana. by cygnet74 Sep 29, 2004 share this add a video 2. lynchian Referring to a certain quality of the works of film director David Lynch. You have no fucking clue what's going on, but you know it's genius. Did Dennis Hopper just fucking whip out an oxygen mask right before he started talking to that chick's pussy? What the fuck is happening? This is fucking genius. LYNCHIAN. genius fucked up wtf david lynch blue velvet by imlynchian Sep 2, 2012 share this add a video 3. lynchian 1.Any fan of David Lynch, An odd ball film director who directed such films as, Mulholland drive, Blue velvet, eraser.. etc.. 2.The specific style that David Lynch, which is usually odd or weird, but original. The fishheaded midget running around the oval room backwards while constantly changing color then finally turning into water was really lynchian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. Eraserhead is the most spiritual film Lynch ever made, something he also acknowledges himself. But the same struggle and reach for human dignity can be seen in all his films. Every one of them without exception. Lynch didn't become a living legend by making what to some simple souls seems to be horror movies. To see light and love in art can't be taught. Either it resonates with you or it doesn't. Which mean those, ten and thousands of his fans, experience something which you don't. You might find it disturbing and MJ calls it trash. Perhaps this says something about your ability to perceive. Just an idea. Ill wager that if Lynch didn't do TM, you'd think it was trash too. Not just an idea. Your ideas are rather uninteresting, IMO. As if you are able to value my understanding of art, or any other understanding for that matter. As many others I had no idea he was doing TM before he started the DLF, never saw him in Vlodrop or anywhere else in the Movement. I happened to love his films about 20 years before I knew he was doing TM.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at the top of the list. Well, but then as you read the comments, your last impression is of the positive ones rather than the negative ones. But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not even *get* to the positive ones. Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other half after the cynics are done? Perhaps the NYT list will have some more positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. (The NYT lets you choose, BTW, whether you want to read from oldest to newest or newest to oldest. The Grauniad should give its readers that choice as well.) poor PR job if it doesn't. Might offer them my services again. If the price is right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice cubes. I sent an email to the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't heard back yet... I'd like to see you produce something outstanding with them, other than iced tea. How about an ice cube sculpture with some coloured light generated by prismatic light? Then compose a soundtrack to go with. Please, please incorporate some aspect of the now famous duck walk too - that is still one of my favourite parts of your last video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
[FairfieldLife] Re: Snow Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: The kids had a snow day Friday, no school, plenty of time to shovel the walk and play in the snow. I heaped up a pile of snow with granddaughter and took some photos of our snow witch. The green teeth are left over brussel sprouts. Enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/106545400900838340106/SnowDayInFairfieldIowa?authuser=0feat=directlink Very fun. It's good to see kids doing things outside in the elements, having a wonderful time. These kinds of things are what I remember as a child: snow, snow suits, making things and coming in feeling tuckered out and satisfied. Thanks for sharing those.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: WOW! That was like chapter two from the original - always wanted to see the car in the first one - Great!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I recently listened to the very same song.  Love this video too.  Live, Wembley, 1982 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRILLqV0l58 Great music, great group and some major kundalini animating Mr Byrne there at the beginning, or at least the kind of energy I can relate to. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime  Ooops - wrong URL in previous - corrected below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Another gem - Always loved this song - Hadn't seen the original vid. before - For others with a similar curiosity, here it is: Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3c-22lL_s Used to enjoy this on my boom-box (!), with a doob, before boogey-boarding in the Winter surf in Santa Barbara - early '80's. PS I'm pretty sure David Byrne, Michael Stipe, (and David Bowie, of course) are from another planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Oh really ? You are as off about art as on any other subject. The films of Lynch is about human struggle towards dignity, love and Light. Terms utterly alien to MJ. So in what way is Eraserhead about the human struggle towards dignity, love and light? It's about a guy whose wife gives birth to an alien baby with its internal organs on the outside, then his head falls off and gets made into pencils. Great movie (Lynch's first and best) but highly disturbing. OMG, you have me laughing - uncontrollably. Love this synopsis and your timing was perfect. But his explanations of how he combines meditation with psycho-sexual violence have never been very convincing, he probably never expected to get his orders to go out proselytising and didn't think he'd need to explain it. Not in a positive way anyway, if he said I just like weird, pervy shit and left it like that, no one would mind I'm sure. He did have a good chat up line though. When he met Isabella Rosselini he said: My God, you're so beautiful you could be Ingrid Bergman's daughter. And she replied: I am Ingrid Berman's daughter. Blue Velvet was his second best film which is interesting as he always says the TM experience takes him to greater creative heights but it seems that his career has been going downhill for a long time. Some good bits but the first few were classics, the rest like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are just tired and weird either for it's own sake or to detract from the fact no one could be bothered to finish the script. IMO of course.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1;
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. But their story was somehow neglected from his research?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Music
I'm simply offering the raw material - I have lots of it unfrozen too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Very cool! I actually have this machine in my kitchen that manufactures proto-ice instruments, 24x7. We call them ice cubes. I sent an email to the guy in the video offering to sell him mine at a fair price - Haven't heard back yet... I'd like to see you produce something outstanding with them, other than iced tea. How about an ice cube sculpture with some coloured light generated by prismatic light? Then compose a soundtrack to go with. Please, please incorporate some aspect of the now famous duck walk too - that is still one of my favourite parts of your last video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Speaking of hums in the universe, these seem to reverberate nicely. http://www.dontpaniconline.com/magazine/music/ice-instruments-from-iceland
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. Smiley face. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my second wild guess, though. ;-) From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily  Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  From: Michael Jackson To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or delusional like you. So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram Ravi From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. Smiley face. Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-: From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my second wild guess, though. ;-) From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily àEmily, what is it you hate to say?àAnd why? From: Emily Reyn To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back àI read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across. àFrom: Michael Jackson To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back àOh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field. PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. But their story was somehow neglected from his research?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: (snip) From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed and I do not use that word lightly by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. Well, if you look at the comments on the Lynch article, most of the negative ones are not from former TMers (or current TMers, for that matter). Among TM critics generally, a significant number have never done TM. They object to the price of instruction, or assume all gurus are frauds, or all Eastern spiritual groups are cults or (among fundamentalists) tools of Satan, or are scornful of the TM-Sidhis and particularly Yogic Flying, or the TM research, etc., etc. And even former TMers can be misinformed on some topics. But their story was somehow neglected from his research? He seems to have been researching the research on TM's benefits, not TM's public image.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
Just for the record, as a comment. Dr. Oz bugs the crap out of me. From the beginning, I've never made it through a single show of his. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field. PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. From NYTimes page: Jack Forem Boise, Idaho I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and re-think their position. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1; But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed. But their story was somehow neglected from his research?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
Ahhh ha ha ha. Well, not and admit it anyway. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past. Smiley face. Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-: From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile. I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my second wild guess, though. ;-) From: Share Long To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily  Emily, what is it you hate to say? And why? From: Emily Reyn To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  From: Michael Jackson To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the Himalayas'. And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. Right? Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? Oz has a large and enthusiastic following, but he's come in for some very serious criticism lately for touting unproven therapies. I wouldn't use him as a poster boy for TM. I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still being idiotic enough to believe that something is good because someone famous does it?
[FairfieldLife] Cults claiming persecution are not new
Nor, seemingly, is the fact that it isn't true, just something they say to make cult members seem more important: http://www.salon.com/2013/02/24/the_myth_of_persecution_early_christians_werent_persecuted/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it? How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still being idiotic enough to believe that something is good because someone famous does it? This is odd; Barry read smart and successful and healthy and thought it said famous.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: And another batch--it's 61 now. I didn't count them up, but it looks to me as though most of the new ones are negative. Tsk, the governors aren't pulling their weight. In the UK if someone gets an article published it goes out on the gov's email list so loads of positive comments can be put out before the cynics get find it. It would be smarter, it seems to me, for the devotees to comment *after* the cynics. Wouldn't work in the Grauniad case as the first comments stay at the top of the list. Well, but then as you read the comments, your last impression is of the positive ones rather than the negative ones. But if there are a lot of comments, you're right, because folks would be unlikely to read all of them and might not even *get* to the positive ones. Maybe half the team should post right away, and the other half after the cynics are done? Perhaps the NYT list will have some more positive remarks near the top by tomorrow? How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top. Poor MJ. If the TMO decides to sue him for lies and slander he will loose his trailer.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 25-Feb-13 00:15:06 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] Who cares about the Oscars?
Believe it or not being a film buff I really don't care about awards shows so won't bother with the Oscars and haven't in a long time. Actually the favored best picture, Argo, I have seen. It was probably one of the last movies I've gone out to see. BTW, some of the movies nominated will be available this coming month to rent. This week I see The Master is available for rent. Hollywood doesn't care much about art anymore just money. And they aren't even good at the latter these days.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Feinstein To Rig Gun Control Hearings
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru
I've had tinnitus since 2007. It comes and goes and not any result of loud music, etc. In fact my hearing seems to be as good as ever (tested above average while playing in a rock band). But I had never heard of pineapple as a folk cure for tinnitus until I saw it on that homeveda site. So I went to the store and bought a container of sliced pineapple since a whole one is a bit much and then the mess of slicing it up. Well, it worked! BTW, how many of you have big ears? I've been noticing more recent generations seem to have smaller ears. On 02/24/2013 05:09 AM, Share Long wrote: thanks Bhairitu, this came at just the right time. I had purchased a homeopathic remedy for dizzyness but am holding off taking it while I'm taking other stuff to strengthen the immune system and deal with a chest tickle. So it's great to have a sound. I've already tried it a few times. I think it helped. The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. Also my ailment, whatever it is, seems to be moving around. A friend suggested osha root for the chest tingle. It cured her laryngitis overnight! I could definitely do with some increased blood flow to the brain (-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru Though dizziness can be due to different reasons, for me often any dizzy spell was often relieved by practicing a kapha reducing mantra such as hoong. As you know the three doshas have their centers in different areas of the body. Vata in the groin area, pitta in the stomach and kapha in the head. Being somewhat balanced I observed that vata reducing mantras tended to send energy (and thus blood flow) downward (hence grounding). Kapha reducing mantras sent energy (and blood flow) upward to the head. My observation was that my dizziness was due to some reduced blood flow to the brain. On 02/23/2013 11:07 AM, Share Long wrote: Yeah, thank you, very useful. I looked up dizzyness and learned a whole bunch of natural ways to deal with it. Will definitely visit again. And pass it along to friends. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL to noozguru You might enjoy this web site that has a lot of videos and info for simple ayurvedic home remedies. http://www.homeveda.com/ On 02/21/2013 02:42 PM, Share Long wrote: Well I eat a lot of cold food so I can't claim to follow a vata pacifying diet. I think they emphasize it here because the US lifestyle is so vata vitiating. Of course not so much in slow paced Fairfield. I'd say I'm definitely a mixed type. I'm doing very well avoiding high carb foods like pasta, rice, bread, also dairy. And I don't eat as much fish as I'd like to. Basically that means a lot of legumes. Also not vata pacifying! Noozguru wrote: Since we're all yogis a collapse shouldn't matter much to us. We can live with only a bedroll and toothbrush, right? :-D Me: maybe you yogis can, but as a yogini, I like a little comfort (-: Thank you for the info about East Indian style jyotish chart which I googled and found. Also for knowledge of Maran siddhis which I had not known about. Always a good day when I learn something new. Snow began just as they predicted around 2 pm Central. A steady fall, the kind that accumulates stealthily. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL Sometimes I think that MA emphasized vata imbalances so much that people may have way over treated for it. I get kapha quite fast using vata balancing herbs and diet. That's why I like the metabolic or nutritional typing methods as they classify one as being a carbohydrate type, protein type or mixed type. Also this can change just trying to adjust a little for some people. On 02/20/2013 12:15 PM, Share Long wrote: Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and I were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were having heart attacks. On the same day!
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: NYC Bans 2-Liter Bottles Of Soda With Pizza Delivery
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or delusional like you. So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. May be you are Mark yourself - now that would make lot of sense. He was into this healing/channeling delusional bullshit and would explain your childish stubbornness in your mention of the skin boy for every argument. You are probably screaming in your head every time your write about the skin boy - it's me, it's me goddammit Nice, harmless guy - but totally stunted, tortured soul. OMG get some therapy, get some healing, go on some medication dude. On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram Ravi -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest document I know of that describes his system of meditation. Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't work (HTTP 404). This is a PDF document, an excerpt from
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
A must read for anyone who is still not convinced by my reference to channeling and healing as delusional - a clear example here - http://www.iloveyouandforgiveyou.org/newbook.htm On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Look MJ - you need to do better than this pathetic, retarded retort of yours and if its not obvious to you - unless you are a woman or my friend - my attention is a curse and worse for someone stunted, paranoid and/or delusional like you. So go again or learn from Barry and/or Share on how to avoid my attention. Anyway it's confirmed - Mark and you are pals then huh? LOL - a great pairing BTW - I'm not complaining. May be you are Mark yourself - now that would make lot of sense. He was into this healing/channeling delusional bullshit and would explain your childish stubbornness in your mention of the skin boy for every argument. You are probably screaming in your head every time your write about the skin boy - it's me, it's me goddammit Nice, harmless guy - but totally stunted, tortured soul. OMG get some therapy, get some healing, go on some medication dude. On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote: Ahh, I am blessed with attention from Ravi - thank you for your darshan Ram Ravi -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back OMG - you really need to get a grip on yourself MJ - need to separate out Marshy, Lynch from the technique, the practices. Marshy was doomed to begin with but can't blame the technique or his intent. Is this skin boy Mark Landau - he is as nice and emotionally stunted as you. You are sounding very paranoid at this point. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** You already answered your own question: For our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of life. -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: that is a good quote - and it points out something else the former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of gods or goddesses Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different? (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said before more than once, but we might as well go over it again.) Oh, and are enlightenment and the accumulation of personal power mutually exclusive? For that matter, does make us happier in every walk of life even refer to personal power? so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goood thing to do. And even if you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address the case emptybill made. You won't even address the question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it. I could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or not, What Michael and I are actually sparring about is Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional practice. the following link points to a few
