Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! -- *From:* authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if nothing else. You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
So says Barry baby destroying the beauty of Ann's musings with his paranoid, delusional, narcissist rant. On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:58 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. While I cannot disagree with what Ann says here, I should point out to her that what she has posted is pretty much the clinical definition of someone suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Sociopathic Disorder. Unable to feel empathy, driven only by ego and self-importance and the need to fuel it, they often become charismatic (and abusive) priests or teachers or cult leaders and use their positions of supposed authority to dominate and exploit others (for whom they can feel no pity because they can't *feel*). And all the while they're *masking* their inability to feel empathy or real emotion by talking in language that makes them appear more sensitive or empathic than others. It's a strange affliction. And one that, as I've pointed out before, is not easily reversed or cured. Therapists and mental health experts consider the condition almost irreversible, because the same ego- and self- absorption issues that drive a person to think and act like this also prevent them from ever changing. They cannot conceive of anything they might want to change *into*, because for them the overpowering sense of their own importance and center-of-the-world-ness and I-ness in the present moment often blinds them to any ability to perceive or conceive of a different modality in the future. So the disorder becomes self- perpetuating. As Ann says, it's a kind of living Hell. Sadly, it often is as well for those who have to live with or deal with NPD individuals. There have been successful treatment therapies developed for how to help the *victims* of NPD or socio- pathy, but so far almost none that can help the perpetrators of it. If they're far gone enough into the behavior to be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, they're stuck with it for life. And possibly -- given karma -- for many lives to come...
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Card - Drummer question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hey Card, Who's that drummer with a rather long multi-syllabic name who's incredibly fast and good and plays in a big band? Too many possibilities. Perhaps you could find him/(her?) here: http://www.drummerworld.com/ If you are such a drum freak as myself, following 20 minutes is certainly worth of watching and hearing through...? http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/gergobolrlaibudapest.html
[FairfieldLife] The Masters role - by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 9 March 2013
The Masters' role by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 9 March 2013 For many years, We, the Masters, have been preparing Ourselves for the time of Emergence, the time, now near, when We will, in group formation, live openly in the everyday world. For Some it will be an experience altogether new. Many, as Masters, have spent all Their time within the Hierarchy and must now learn to work in entirely new ways. Even the use of speech has to be learned and practised, since telepathy has long been the mode used by Us. At first, and for some considerable time, Our contact will have to be restricted to senior disciples in the various fields of work and to trained personnel involved in the practical fields of administration, especially in food distribution. Many Masters are specialists in administration, while Others engage more readily in teaching. The aim is to work as closely as possible in every field, and as soon as possible with the general public. It is important to emphasise that the Masters' aim is to stimulate and guide humanity as needed, but to safeguard the essential freewill of men. Gradually the location of the various Mystery Schools, preparatory and advanced, will become known and many thousands of striving disciples will gravitate to them. There they will receive the training for the first two initiations, and enter the Sanctuary of Hierarchy. In the beginning We must expect some opposition to the Masters' presence and ideas, but eventually, even the most diehard fundamentalist of any religion or creed will find it difficult to fault the harmlessness of man's Elder Brothers. In due course, the cities of the world will be beautified and transformed. The new Science of Light will transform industry and travel, and the movement of people will bring Unity to the world. People of all nations will work in teams together in service to all. The advice of the Masters will be available, guiding men wisely with a gentle hand. The presence of even a few Masters among them will have an electrifying effect on thousands of people anxious to serve the needs of the world, and the idea of service will become a new life aim for many. In this way it can be seen that an enormous transformation can be accomplished in a relatively very short period of time. A mass programme of aid to the poor will achieve miracles in countries in Africa and South America, for example. An altogether new sense of the need for haste to rectify the wrongs of the past will ensure an intensity of help unknown today. Inspired by Maitreya and His group, hundreds of thousands of men and women will find their vocation in this way. We, the Masters, aim only to teach and guide, to show the way for men and protect them from harm. War in all its forms must become a thing of the past but the decision to make it so must be man's alone. I repeat, Our task is to show the way, to outline the plans, but men alone must embrace each step of the way. Have no fear; all will be achieved. The life ahead for men could not be more bright. (Read more articles by this Master) http://www.share-international.org/master/master.htm The future of mankind is bright - His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Questions and answers with Benjamin Creme, published March 2013
Q. Could you say what you think Hugo Chavez's influence has been in Venezuela and Latin America? A. I would have thought that his influence in Venezuela is fundamental and long lasting. Other Latin American nations do not have the oil reserves of Venezuela but the immediate response to Chavez's death of, for example, Bolivia and Argentina, are sincere and full of promise. Q. Chavez was popular with most Venezuelans but disliked by the American establishment; is it true that the US tried to have Chavez assassinated? A. No. Q. Do you think that Chavez was one of a group of fairly enlightened and relatively advanced leaders who have come to power in `recent' years in Latin America? A. Yes, clearly so. From his point of evolution he is ahead of most leaders in the world. Q. Was Hugo Chavez sometimes inspired by a Master or Maitreya he was apparently generous, altruistic and idealistic. A. Yes, by the Master Jesus. Q. There are rumours that a lot of money was syphoned off by the Chavez family from oil reserves. Is this true? A. Absolutely not. It is anti-Chavez propaganda. Q. Spring, we hope, is on its way in the northern hemisphere and with it come the three major spiritual festivals of Easter, Wesak and the Christ Festival. (1) Can we look forward to a significant boost in the spiritual energies transmitted by the Lord Maitreya and the Masters? (2) Could it be that the stimulus provided at this time of the year will speed up the needed changes? Do you think we will see marked changes in 2013 in (3) the effectiveness of people power, (4) genuine moves towards establishing a just settlement in the Middle East, especially Palestine, and (5) a powerful and effective peace movement demanding the end of war? A. (1) Yes. We are, even now, in a period which the Masters call a `spiritual push'. (2) Yes. (3) Yes. (4) No. (5) Yes. Q. With the resignation of the Pope, is it possible and likely that the Master Jesus will become the new Pope? A. No. Q. Do you think that Pope Benedict changed for the better during his Papacy? A. Yes. Q. A 10-meter-diameter meteor recently landed in western Siberia killing no one; shattered glass caused many injuries but only 50 people were hospitalised. In more or less the same period a 45-meter asteroid passed relatively close to the Earth. In 2008 a 4-meter-long rock exploded in the sky some 37 kilometers above the Nubian Desert in Sudan. The last large detonation of a 40-meter asteroid was also over an unpopulated part of Siberia in 1908. Do the Masters of our Spiritual Hierarchy and the Space Brothers play any role in diverting meteors from landing in populated parts of the world? A. Yes. Q. In the section of `Letters to the Editor' (SI, April 2012 issue http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2012/2012-04.htm#l2e\ d ) there was a letter titled `Timely Visit'. In the letter, the man who was confirmed to be the Master Jesus said: I think that this year, 2012, will be a crucial year. An important year. Something is going to happen. Something positive. It must happen now, otherwise we're lost. It can't continue as it is. But there's hope. The people must play their part. I wonder if any positive thing has already happened? Could this be the marches and other protests for justice all over the world? A. Yes, people throughout the world are crying out for change for justice and sharing, for jobs, a sense of well-being and peace. Q. Is it correct that Maitreya forecast the fall of Communism? A. He forecast the break up of the Soviet Union, which is not the same thing. Q. I read that the coming time is to be the age of women. I also read that the Masters were the inspiration behind the Women's Movement. Will the Masters guide humanity to create a more balanced attitude towards women? A. Yes. Q. The austerity measures in Britain are causing misery, suffering and deprivation; how is it possible that the British are not out on the streets in their millions? A. Perhaps the suffering has not gone far enough yet. The British have a strong sense of national unity and are slow to demonstrate. Q. Recently, I have learned that there is a Japanese Non Profit Organization which helps couples who cannot have children because of wives' physical problem. The way of its assistance is egg donation. A couple receives an egg from an unrelated donor. The donor gives it for free. Our government is co-operative to the activity, and no argument or objection has arisen among people after the donation project was broadcast through television. The TV program also told about Japanese women who went to other countries to give their eggs for profit. Most people may feel that it is too delicate an issue to raise an objection because they can guess the mind of the woman who wants a child but cannot have one due to her physical problem. Even so, I think that it is not only the misuse of technology and money but also selfish and indiscreet behaviour. The egg donation would generate
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
I am on Yifu's side on this one. Death is not the big deal it is cracked up to be(!). It is a continuation of this life, in a subtler body. Thoughts and vibration, karma, more easily, and clearly, create our environment, after death, than here on earth. I have not been in the presence of a criminal at their death, so cannot speak for the hell worlds they may inhabit after death, though I have visited such worlds in the dream state. For virtuous people, though, they do ascend to a heavenly existence, and for those troubled, they rest and watch their troubles, coming to terms with them in a gentle way, sometimes over years. Evolution, personal growth, continues after death, and if necessary, into another lifetime here on earth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In
[FairfieldLife] Deva repeat performance
SIGNS OF THE TIME Deva repeat performance [Share International photo for April 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; NASA Feabruary 2013 picture of angel or Deva] http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/images/2013\ 04_angel2.jpg The Deva or Angel filmed by NASA cameras in October 2012 was caught on film again in late February 2013, close to its previous position. Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that the figure seen again by NASA cameras is the same Deva that was filmed in October. http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-04.htm http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-04.htm\
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Gee, I can't recall anyone ever writing a poem about Barry on FFL before. Are you sure he's Jewish, though? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote: the hurler of curses and insults spinning truth as though it is a dreidel fails again and again succeeds only in revealing inner darkness poisoned words from disturbed mind earth day echoes in native nebraskan's consciousness arbor day planting day after next desert willow- chilopsis linearis while mindful of grateful dead scarlet begonias earworm and i knew without asking she was into the blues soft smile dreams of lush lawns as owls converse too pat to open and too cool to bluff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Earth Day is ending, the lawn of my lady-parts is still not green. Has J's curse gone astray, dear grey? From: azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a Sunday on FFL  Dear Share, Google has a full translation function. I'm not sure that the Jerseyese section contains all of the dialects as what I came up with is she either wants to preform sanyama on your lawn or is expressing an unnatural interest in the operation of your lady-parts. Alex might be able to help as he seen to be a native speaker. He might have to first get a refill on his ointment. Hugs, azgrey --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Share, are you familiar with the expression Blow it out your ass? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, your biases are noted. As is your continuing self delusion about the presence of those biases and your ongoing inability to see more complete truth much less express it. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) from Judy, best expression of her *hypochondria:àI'm allergic to dishonesty. (snip) *hypochondria n. The persistent conviction that one is or is likely to become ill, often involving symptoms when illness is neither present nor likely, Says the person who has to her discredit an *astounding* number of examples of the most flagrant dishonesty--most recently her combined smear of raunchy and Robin today-- including rewriting history as documented by *her own posts*, and who has been unable either to explain away the dishonesty or acknowledge it. (And by the way, the symptoms of allergy *are* the illness.)
[FairfieldLife] Like A Fish In Water
Inayar Khan offers the Sufi viewpoint of 'life absolute' http://lightkeepersblog.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/like-a-fish-in-water-quest-for-meaning/
[FairfieldLife] Android fairly profitable to M$?
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[FairfieldLife] Farmers Smash Records Without GMOs
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. Â Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? I suggest you drop the smug sense of superiority you exude when writing to Share. Share has more
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Absolutely. She would also be great at Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/ To me, FFL is more like a long, winding conversation than a scholarly journal where everything has to be absolutely accurate and consistent. People write in the moment, according to how they feel at the time, just as people do in conversation. Sometimes they may contradict themselves. (I am not saying that you have done so.) It happens all the time, and it is no big deal. And just as in real-time, actual relationships, it doesn't pay to go back and try to nail people for things they may have said months earlier. Nor does it work to try to force people to make apologies, especially if the apology is to be made to someone else who isn't even asking for one. It's just not a smart thing to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. àAnyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Curious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: This is for Salyavin - who do you think was the better leader, Thatcher or Blair? Were either of them initiated as meditators? -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Last night, while driving and scanning the radio channels, I happened upon a right wing radio show host, going through Obama's posted daily schedule (from yesterday) and attempting to misconstrue each event into something petty and self serving. Of course I immediately thought of Judy and how she operates here. And I agree, it is a sad waste of potential for her to, day in and day out, post in manner she does. On the other hand, Ravi thinks she's just swell. So that says something I guess. (-:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. àAnyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Honestly, do you think Judy has flow charts posted througout her apartment. I wouldn't be at all surprised. How bout it Judy, can we see a snapshot of those walls? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: Absolutely. She would also be great at Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/ To me, FFL is more like a long, winding conversation than a scholarly journal where everything has to be absolutely accurate and consistent. People write in the moment, according to how they feel at the time, just as people do in conversation. Sometimes they may contradict themselves. (I am not saying that you have done so.) It happens all the time, and it is no big deal. And just as in real-time, actual relationships, it doesn't pay to go back and try to nail people for things they may have said months earlier. Nor does it work to try to force people to make apologies, especially if the apology is to be made to someone else who isn't even asking for one. It's just not a smart thing to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: feste, thank you so much. Your words came at just the right time, made me cry with relief. Sometimes I'm so astonished by Judy's rampages that I simply don't know what more to say. You supplied the words that brought me some peace. Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I mean, really. Such misguided use of her time and energy seems almost tragic to me, or criminal. I still have in my inbox the story about forced feeding at Gitmo that you posted. Helps me keep a more reasonable perspective sometimes. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. àAnyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum from meditation who wants to meditate. There are those that feel that prospective meditators would be better served by having a larger range of facts (and in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a decision. There are some who do not understand what meditation can do, and some who overstate what meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished as is possible. As reality is all there is, this would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive element in our lives that meditation is an aid for ameliorating. What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that all our public policy should be that people come to meditation for all our welfare. -Buck (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from broken families of meditation, ... Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken communities now. As people mature they find the simplistic ideal society model of life slightly inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness everything may be ideal society, but the average joe on the street would find the concept as applied to say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short of the mark, if all details be made known. ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph having survived many years of organizational tumult along the way... Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down manager, who probably has no idea what the average meditator is going through. ...said ..these former meditators brought shame to the meditating family. The former meditators were last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 and 1978 respectively. Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or attempting to get others to experience life this way, he/she has no business being an elder, or being any kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The elder would serve best by guiding people strong, independent, and wise You put a shame on our entire family -- the meditating family -- and you put a shame on the entire meditating community, The community meditation Elder said. As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate people instead of lifting them up. When asked what provoked the anti-meditation suspects, the elder meditator stated: Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine. Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the elder should be sacked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
(Fairfield, Iowa) Interviews with elderly meditators who reportedly knew the anti-meditation suspects at earlier times, an elder meditator remarks, Anti-meditation is the dark religion and the former meditators became religiously anti-meditative. -0--- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum from meditation who wants to meditate. There are those that feel that prospective meditators would be better served by having a larger range of facts (and in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a decision. There are some who do not understand what meditation can do, and some who overstate what meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished as is possible. As reality is all there is, this would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive element in our lives that meditation is an aid for ameliorating. What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that all our public policy should be that people come to meditation for all our welfare. -Buck (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from broken families of meditation, ... Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken communities now. As people mature they find the simplistic ideal society model of life slightly inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness everything may be ideal society, but the average joe on the street would find the concept as applied to say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short of the mark, if all details be made known. ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph having survived many years of organizational tumult along the way... Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down manager, who probably has no idea what the average meditator is going through. ...said ..these former meditators brought shame to the meditating family. The former meditators were last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 and 1978 respectively. Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or attempting to get others to experience life this way, he/she has no business being an elder, or being any kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The elder would serve best by guiding people strong, independent, and wise You put a shame on our entire family -- the meditating family -- and you put a shame on the entire meditating community, The community meditation Elder said. As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate people instead of lifting them up. When asked what provoked the anti-meditation suspects, the elder meditator stated: Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine. Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the elder should be sacked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: snip Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. Hey Rav, I really wouldn't put Judy in the category of damsel in distress, but evidently you do! LYLAB On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: ** Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! -- *From:* authfriend authfriend@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if nothing else. You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Generally speaking, all this is true, but not always. I do not believe that was the case here, for a number of reasons that I've already explained *and documented* a number of times that your apologia cannot account for. I don't think Share can account for them either, and I strongly suspect that's why she has refused to provide a straightforward explanation--because if it were honest, it would reflect very badly on her, and perhaps even worse on some others. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? It isn't me she needs to make it right with. And the steps she has taken have been designed to get me off her back without revealing the real story. She has also refused to retract the accusation she made against Robin. She says only that she isn't making that accusation *now*--but the original accusation is still on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
(Fairfield, Iowa) Interviews with elderly meditators who reportedly knew the anti-meditation suspects at earlier times, an elder meditator remarks, Anti-meditation is the dark religion and the former meditators became religiously anti-meditative. -0--- Considering now that both the modern science and people's direct deeper spiritual experience are confirming first hand ancient and spiritual scriptures showing just how spiritually imperative transcending meditation practices are to all of humankind I feel it is important that we be more proactive in protecting ourselves from the radicalism of the anti-meditators here. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum from meditation who wants to meditate. There are those that feel that prospective meditators would be better served by having a larger range of facts (and in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a decision. There are some who do not understand what meditation can do, and some who overstate what meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished as is possible. As reality is all there is, this would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive element in our lives that meditation is an aid for ameliorating. What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that all our public policy should be that people come to meditation for all our welfare. -Buck (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from broken families of meditation, ... Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken communities now. As people mature they find the simplistic ideal society model of life slightly inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness everything may be ideal society, but the average joe on the street would find the concept as applied to say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short of the mark, if all details be made known. ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph having survived many years of organizational tumult along the way... Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down manager, who probably has no idea what the average meditator is going through. ...said ..these former meditators brought shame to the meditating family. The former meditators were last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 and 1978 respectively. Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or attempting to get others to experience life this way, he/she has no business being an elder, or being any kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The elder would serve best by guiding people strong, independent, and wise You put a shame on our entire family -- the meditating family -- and you put a shame on the entire meditating community, The community meditation Elder said. As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate people instead of lifting them up. When asked what provoked the anti-meditation suspects, the elder meditator stated: Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine. Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the elder should be sacked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
On a more interesting note: how was Shriver's talk last night? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: (Fairfield, Iowa) Interviews with elderly meditators who reportedly knew the anti-meditation suspects at earlier times, an elder meditator remarks, Anti-meditation is the dark religion and the former meditators became religiously anti-meditative. -0--- Considering now that both the modern science and people's direct deeper spiritual experience are confirming first hand ancient and spiritual scriptures showing just how spiritually imperative transcending meditation practices are to all of humankind I feel it is important that we be more proactive in protecting ourselves from the radicalism of the anti-meditators here. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum from meditation who wants to meditate. There are those that feel that prospective meditators would be better served by having a larger range of facts (and in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a decision. There are some who do not understand what meditation can do, and some who overstate what meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished as is possible. As reality is all there is, this would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive element in our lives that meditation is an aid for ameliorating. What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that all our public policy should be that people come to meditation for all our welfare. -Buck (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from broken families of meditation, ... Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken communities now. As people mature they find the simplistic ideal society model of life slightly inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness everything may be ideal society, but the average joe on the street would find the concept as applied to say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short of the mark, if all details be made known. ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph having survived many years of organizational tumult along the way... Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down manager, who probably has no idea what the average meditator is going through. ...said ..these former meditators brought shame to the meditating family. The former meditators were last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 and 1978 respectively. Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or attempting to get others to experience life this way, he/she has no business being an elder, or being any kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The elder would serve best by guiding people strong, independent, and wise You put a shame on our entire family -- the meditating family -- and you put a shame on the entire meditating community, The community meditation Elder said. As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate people instead of lifting them up. When asked what provoked the anti-meditation suspects, the elder meditator stated: Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine. Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the elder should be sacked.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
Ah hell, just when I was thinking of retiring, you call me out - ufff! From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity (Fairfield, Iowa) Interviews with elderly meditators who reportedly knew the anti-meditation suspects at earlier times, an elder meditator remarks, Anti-meditation is the dark religion and the former meditators became religiously anti-meditative. -0--- Considering now that both the modern science and people's direct deeper spiritual experience are confirming first hand ancient and spiritual scriptures showing just how spiritually imperative transcending meditation practices are to all of humankind I feel it is important that we be more proactive in protecting ourselves from the radicalism of the anti-meditators here. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum from meditation who wants to meditate. There are those that feel that prospective meditators would be better served by having a larger range of facts (and in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a decision. There are some who do not understand what meditation can do, and some who overstate what meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished as is possible. As reality is all there is, this would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive element in our lives that meditation is an aid for ameliorating. What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that all our public policy should be that people come to meditation for all our welfare. -Buck (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from broken families of meditation, ... Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken communities now. As people mature they find the simplistic ideal society model of life slightly inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness everything may be ideal society, but the average joe on the street would find the concept as applied to say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short of the mark, if all details be made known. ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph having survived many years of organizational tumult along the way... Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down manager, who probably has no idea what the average meditator is going through. ...said ..these former meditators brought shame to the meditating family. The former meditators were last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 and 1978 respectively. Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or attempting to get others to experience life this way, he/she has no business being an elder, or being any kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The elder would serve best by guiding people strong, independent, and wise You put a shame on our entire family -- the meditating family -- and you put a shame on the entire meditating community, The community meditation Elder said. As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate people instead of lifting them up. When asked what provoked the anti-meditation suspects, the elder meditator stated: Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine. Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the elder should be sacked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: On a more interesting note: how was Shriver's talk last night? I enjoyed it. It was taped, and it should be up on YouTube before too long. I'll post a link when I get it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
that's a pretty good assessment Ann From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: On a more interesting note: how was Shriver's talk last night? I enjoyed it. It was taped, and it should be up on YouTube before too long. I'll post a link when I get it. yup this town is full of public intellectuals and that guy is public intellectual number 1. It effectively was the narrative of the Fairfield meditating community. It was very graceful. Was video-ed by a number of people. It should surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: On a more interesting note: how was Shriver's talk last night? I enjoyed it. It was taped, and it should be up on YouTube before too long. I'll post a link when I get it. yup this town is full of public intellectuals and that guy is public intellectual number 1. It effectively was the narrative of the Fairfield meditating community. It was very graceful. Was video-ed by a number of people. It should surface. Also, keep an eye on his new blog: http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
Both UCLA Dr. Dan Siegel and Dr. Joan Harrigan of PKYC Knoxville offer effective and spiritually based solutions for those with even the more serious of the personality disorders. There is good reason to have hope. Dr. Siegel incorporates Buddhist mindfulness techniques into his therapy practice while Dr. Harrigan and the Adi Shankaracharya lineage she represents offer ways to deal with stuck and or deflected kundalini with a 97% success rate. from Kundalini Vidya by Joan Harrigan, PhD of Patanjali Kundalini Yoga Care (PKYC) in Knoxville, TN The words eccentric, complex, talented, intuitive, changeable, self deprecating, proud, quirky and dramatic may describe a person with a stuck Saraswati process. They can be brilliant but unstable and can tend to personality disorders if not disciplined and supported. They are fascinating and talented but can also be temperamental, reactive, idiosyncratic, and stubborn, creating a wrenching empathy in those who love them but are unable to steer them to more effective self-care. They are likely to have an interest in the arts, psychology, religion or metaphysics. Saraswati nadi people are more in touch with the astral plane and may have spirit guides of varying types...They are confident because of their special talents but they tend to put themselves in more subservient roles, feeling bound to serve another or a cause. Their simultaneous pride and self deprecation sends a double message that may create confusing interpersonal dynamics that feel conflictual especially given the hypersensitivity that is caused by the cognitive strain of intermittent over stimulation of brain centers. pg 129 As I've shared before I spent 2 weeks at PKYC in July 2009 and my deflected rising in vajra nadi was resolved. So I can answer questions based on my own experience or those interested can simply check out the PKYC website. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. While I cannot disagree with what Ann says here, I should point out to her that what she has posted is pretty much the clinical definition of someone suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Sociopathic Disorder. Unable to feel empathy, driven only by ego and self-importance and the need to fuel it, they often become charismatic (and abusive) priests or teachers or cult leaders and use their positions of supposed authority to dominate and exploit others (for whom they can feel no pity because they can't *feel*). And all the while they're *masking* their inability to feel empathy or real emotion by talking in language that makes them appear more sensitive or empathic than others. It's a strange affliction. And one that, as I've pointed out before, is not easily reversed or cured. Therapists and mental health experts consider the condition almost irreversible, because the same ego- and self- absorption issues that drive a person to think and act like this also prevent them from ever changing. They cannot conceive of anything they might want to change *into*, because for them the overpowering sense of their own importance and center-of-the-world-ness and I-ness in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
Would you be open to the possibility that you may be attached to the ideas of karma the Hindus have promoted for centuries? The only reason people believe that point of view is true is that they believe it. In truth, our reality is based on perception. For example, many people are convinced that Marshy was a saint and would therefore go to some sort of Hiranyaloka where others believe that he would be consigned to the places as you say, that criminals go. Moorjani didn't say that karma doesn't exist, only that her perception was there was no karmic cause for her cancer, other than the fear thoughts and feelings she had had in this life that became actualized in her body. The idea that one goes into freedom upon death is not new. Read Michael Roads book Journey into Oneness. He has some experiences of similar bent. I took from her book the feeling that we are so powerful we are able to create both in body and out of body pretty much what we want. For her, it was Oneness, for others who still have need for more concrete experience they might go into more touchable feel-able worlds. Not all of this is clear to me. Why do we take these bodies in the first place? If God is real, what the heck does he/she want to experience such torment? It is a bit disconcerting that people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani have the feeling/experience that God perceives all that we suffer as being just ok, cuz the entire universe is rolling along as it should be. What I feel is the karma rap, is just that a rap, a belief. That's my deal. One thing I am curious about, since you thought well of Alexander's book, how do you feel about his assertion that God told him that evil was necessary for free will to exist? From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enemy of Mankind spreading Negativity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: On a more interesting note: how was Shriver's talk last night? I enjoyed it. It was taped, and it should be up on YouTube before too long. I'll post a link when I get it. Thank you. I know virtually nothing about this man but the little I know and the little I read coupled with his response the the 'outing' of his 'dying' here at FFL I can certainly see he is one smart, well-spoken strong personality. I like that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
In Nebraska there is a holiday for planting trees for owls to perch in, watching the begonias grow, then drop their petals onto the green and silent grass From: azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL the hurler of curses and insults spinning truth as though it is a dreidel fails again and again succeeds only in revealing inner darkness poisoned words from disturbed mind earth day echoes in native nebraskan's consciousness arbor day planting day after next desert willow- chilopsis linearis while mindful of grateful dead scarlet begonias earworm and i knew without asking she was into the blues soft smile dreams of lush lawns as owls converse too pat to open and too cool to bluff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Earth Day is ending, the lawn of my lady-parts is still not green. Has J's curse gone astray, dear grey? From: azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a Sunday on FFL  Dear Share, Google has a full translation function. I'm not sure that the Jerseyese section contains all of the dialects as what I came up with is she either wants to preform sanyama on your lawn or is expressing an unnatural interest in the operation of your lady-parts. Alex might be able to help as he seen to be a native speaker. He might have to first get a refill on his ointment. Hugs, azgrey --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Share, are you familiar with the expression Blow it out your ass? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, your biases are noted. As is your continuing self delusion about the presence of those biases and your ongoing inability to see more complete truth much less express it. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) from Judy, best expression of her *hypochondria: I'm allergic to dishonesty. (snip) *hypochondria n. The persistent conviction that one is or is likely to become ill, often involving symptoms when illness is neither present nor likely, Says the person who has to her discredit an *astounding* number of examples of the most flagrant dishonesty--most recently her combined smear of raunchy and Robin today-- including rewriting history as documented by *her own posts*, and who has been unable either to explain away the dishonesty or acknowledge it. (And by the way, the symptoms of allergy *are* the illness.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Absolutely. She would also be great at Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/ To me, FFL is more like a long, winding conversation than a scholarly journal where everything has to be absolutely accurate and consistent. People write in the moment, according to how they feel at the time, just as people do in conversation. Sometimes they may contradict themselves. (I am not saying that you have done so.) It happens all the time, and it is no big deal. It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. But it does explain why you take the position that Share has done nothing wrong with regard to Robin, and why you are unwilling to acknowledge that she has blatantly contradicted herself in how she has described her experience of their upset. I'm glad you went on the record with this. It tells us something important about you. A number of things, actually. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I want to be *ready* when I go after Monsanto, Share. I've been in training for a long time. Taking you on is the culmination of that training. It won't be long now before I take that monstrous company down. Which means you're an important part of my efforts to expiate the negative karma I accrued many years ago when I worked at an ad agency on its Monsanto Roundup account. (Not making that last bit up. I quit shortly after I started TM to work for myself, but I've always felt guilty about having helped promote Roundup.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
On 04/24/2013 10:28 PM, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/24/2013 06:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I hope his teachers schedule extra checking for him. OTOH, if he tweeted just after learning, then a lot of his misconceptions will have already been cleared up by now. Expecting it to improve *everything* is a tad ambitious for the first week, but good luck to him. I imagine he needs a bit of peace after all the lawsuits that have been thrown at his hideous news network. All the revelations about the phonehacking scum in his employ who probably thought they'd never get caught. And all the, two-faced, cowardly politicians who finally turned on him after years of black- mail and denied him and his lawless family of parasites at News International almost complete control of British media. He must have lost billions, if he hasn't the courts in this country should keep at him until his brand of humiliation as entertainment and his vile right-wing tabloids are as much a part of history as the woman who enabled it all, our dear departed Maggie Thatch. Just one of her major and unacknowledged mistakes. Hopefully we'll never see his like again (once we've somehow got rid of the Daily [hate] Mail). Or maybe TM will reverse his fortunes! Nature support has to work for someone after all. Yes, he probably needs a bit of peace of mind. Funny thing is that FX, the FOX cable channel has some of the best programming around. It's current hit is The Americans about KGB spies during the 1980s in America. Also Justified which I know has some fans here. American Horror Story, Louis CK, Sons of Anarchy, Legit are more of my favorites. I read an interview back in the 1990s with Rupert in Esquire magazine where he said all he was concerned about was the TV shows are profitable. He keeps hands off FOX and FX and apparently too hands on the news properties. Stu once said that FOX was the easiest to work for. Apparently not so many MBAs trying their hand at seasoning the TV series soup as with the other networks. Fair enough but tear up a copy of the New York Post while you're watching. Who buy newspapers anymore? They're so retro. :-D Too much money makes people crazy. I doubt TM will cure Rupert of billionairitus. People should only be allowed an estate of a few million dollars. Humans do not have the ability to manage much more than that. Corporations should be limited in size and lifespan and must serve society not just their stockholders.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Android fairly profitable to M$?
On 04/25/2013 03:41 AM, card wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-squeezes-even-more-money-android-signs-licensing-194054218.html The Microsoft and Apple era is over. They have now become patent thugs. Many of those patents are just the way digital devices work and should have never been granted. The US Patent Office was unprepared for tech patents. Android is the new kid on that block and will have it's era too and fade.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Just in case anyone reading this post of Share's is brainless enough to have been taken in by it (Share evidently has little respect for the intelligence of FFLers), allow me to explain a couple of things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! What I've been badgering Share about is, of course, to make it right with Robin. I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. Actually I said this just recently *to Share*. Odd that she would get that wrong, isn't it? What I said to Share was that I would not recommend to Robin that he reconcile with her. I would recommend that he stay as far away from her as possible, even if she were to retract and apologize for her accusation. That's something she needs to do just on the general principle of doing the right thing, not in hopes of a reconciliation. It's too late for that, but it's never too late to do the right thing. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. I don't think anybody here is so metaphorically challenged as Share seems to think, but just in case: If Share were to explicitly retract and apologize for her accusation, that would constitute taking it off the record. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. Oh, my goodness. I have more than enough excuses to stay on Share's back indefinitely. Her reprehensible treatment of Robin is just at the top of my list. You know what would stop me? If Share retracted her accusation, apologized to Robin, *and* gave up her phony, dishonest act on FFL. (Try it and see, Share. You will feel so much better once you've made peace with reality and no longer need to constantly throw up barriers against it.) I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. Share is absolutely right. I have, of course, been speaking for myself all along. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Share never *has* had anything to say to me about it, so this doesn't represent any change in her behavior. That's the problem, you see. She's been doing an intricate dance (including in the post I'm responding to) in an attempt to *avoid* addressing the points I've raised about her dishonesty in this matter. Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! sanctimony: affected or hypocritical holiness Share describes herself to a T. Decent human beings see the exposure of falsehood to be about the discovery of reality and the promotion of justice. Sanctimonious human beings project their own hypocrisy onto those seeking the truth.
[FairfieldLife] New papers on Transcendental Meditation (TM)
New papers onTranscendental Meditation (TM)for lowering hypertension and Post-Traumatic Stress symptoms Dear Colleagues, Here is a newly reported scientific statement from the American Heart Association recommending TM practice for hypertension, and a new paper reporting that the practice is effective in reducing post-traumatic stress symptoms in Congolese refugees. 1. TM recommended for hypertension by the American Heart Association. An estimated 29% of American adults suffer from hypertension and it is projected to affect 1.5 billion people by 2025. It accounts for 13.5% of all deaths and half of all strokes and ischemic heart disease. The global hypertension-related public health burden is enormous.1 The American Heart Association just published a scientific statement on alternative approaches to reducing blood pressure, which included a critical evaluation of research on meditation techniques, including the Transcendental Meditation technique (TM). 1 Here is what they said about the TM technique and other meditation practices: · “TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. · Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR) received a Class III, no benefit, Level of Evidence C recommendation . · Thus, other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time.” MBSR refers to Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction. Here is a link to the full report. http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.full.pdf+html?sid=0aea85a1-f240-4b68-8174-07ecc3e2cfec 2. TM reduces PTSD symptoms in Congolese refugees. The Second Congo War killed 5.4 million people and forced an estimated 80,000 refugees to flee. A new controlled study published in the Journal of Traumatic Stress of Congolese refugees in a camp near Kampala, Uganda found that TM practice markedly reduced post-traumatic stress symptoms from the severe level to the normal level at the one month and 4.5 month posttests.2 Abstract: This matched single-blind pilot study tested the effect of Transcendental Meditation R [1] (TM) practice on symptoms of posttraumatic stress (PTS) in Congolese refugees. Urban refugees (N = 102) staying around Kampala, Uganda attended introductory meetings. After initial random assignment to the TM group, 30 refugees who revealed that they were unable to attend all meetings were eliminated from the study. The remaining 21 TM group participants were then instructed in TM and matched with refugees in the control group on age, sex, and baseline scores on the Post-traumatic Stress Disorder Checklist–Civilian (PCL-C). All participants completed the PCL-C measure of PTS symptoms at baseline, and 30-day and 135-day posttests. The PCL-C scores in the control group trended upward. In contrast, the PCL-C scores in the TM group went from 65 on average at baseline indicating severe PTS symptoms to below 30 on average after 30 days of TM practice, and remained low at 135 days. Effect size was high (d 1.0). Compliance with TM practice was good; most reported regular practice throughout the study. There were no adverse events. All refugees who learned TM completed the study and were able to practice TM successfully, with subsequent substantial reduction in PTS symptoms. 1. Brook RD, Appel LJ, Rubenfire M, et al. Beyond medications and diet: Alternative approaches to lowering blood pressure : A scientific statement from the American Heart Association. Hypertension: Journal of the American Heart Association. 2013(61). 2. Rees B, Travis F, Shapiro D, Chant R. Reduction in post traumatic stress symptoms in Congolese refugees practicing Transcendental Meditation. Journal of Traumatic Stress. 2013:1-14. All the best, David David W. Orme-Johnson, PhD - From October to April 191 Dalton Dr., Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459 From May to September 1100 University Manor Dr., # 15B, Fairfield, Iowa, 52556 (850) 231-2866 (Home) (850) 830-5847 (Mobile) Skype: davidoj108 davi...@earthlink.net www.TruthAboutTM.com www.Orme-JohnsonPaintings.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] American Heart Association report on meditation, blood pressure: TM winner-ish
On 04/23/2013 03:09 PM, sparaig wrote: http://www.clinicaladvisor.com/aha-releases-recommendations-for-alternative-hypertension-treatments/article/290039/# The writing group conferred to TM a Class IIB, Level of Evidence B recommendation in regard to BP-lowering efficacy. TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR) received a Class III, no benefit, Level of Evidence C recommendation Thus, other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time. As usual, more research needed, but it's a change from the no consistent effect found for any form of meditation that has been the result of the last few mainstream meta-analyses of the topic. Once head-to-head studies between meditation techniques become more common, I'm sure another report will be forthcoming, and with this new report, every proponent-researcher of MBSR will be scrambling to include TM in future research just so they can prove that their form of meditation really is better. Stay tuned. L They probably favor TM because TM teachers wear suits instead of kurtajamis. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Oh, darn, you might be out of posts. No matter, Friday's come up. I guess twiddle your fingers till then. But it does explain why you take the position that Share has done nothing wrong with regard to Robin, and why you are unwilling to acknowledge that she has blatantly contradicted herself in how she has described her experience of their upset. I'm glad you went on the record with this. It tells us something important about you. A number of things, actually. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) Anyway, this morning I was thinking how sad it is that Judy wastes her talents on me and my alleged transgressions. Imagine how much good she could do for example, if she took on MONSANTO. I want to be *ready* when I go after Monsanto, Share. I've been in training for a long time. Taking you on is the culmination of that training. It won't be long now before I take that monstrous company down. Which means you're an important part of my efforts to expiate the negative karma I accrued many years ago when I worked at an ad agency on its Monsanto Roundup account. (Not making that last bit up. I quit shortly after I started TM to work for myself, but I've always felt guilty about having helped promote Roundup.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Just in case anyone reading this post of Share's is brainless enough to have been taken in by it (Share evidently has little respect for the intelligence of FFLers), allow me to explain a couple of things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! What I've been badgering Share about is, of course, to make it right with Robin. I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. Actually I said this just recently *to Share*. Odd that she would get that wrong, isn't it? What I said to Share was that I would not recommend to Robin that he reconcile with her. I would recommend that he stay as far away from her as possible, even if she were to retract and apologize for her accusation. That's something she needs to do just on the general principle of doing the right thing, not in hopes of a reconciliation. It's too late for that, but it's never too late to do the right thing. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. I don't think anybody here is so metaphorically challenged as Share seems to think, but just in case: If Share were to explicitly retract and apologize for her accusation, that would constitute taking it off the record. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. Oh, my goodness. I have more than enough excuses to stay on Share's back indefinitely. Her reprehensible treatment of Robin is just at the top of my list. You know what would stop me? If Share retracted her accusation, apologized to Robin, *and* gave up her phony, dishonest act on FFL. (Try it and see, Share. You will feel so much better once you've made peace with reality and no longer need to constantly throw up barriers against it.) I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. Share is absolutely right. I have, of course, been speaking for myself all along. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Share never *has* had anything to say to me about it, so this doesn't represent any change in her behavior. That's the problem, you see. She's been doing an intricate dance (including in the post I'm responding to) in an attempt to *avoid* addressing the points I've raised about her dishonesty in this matter. Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! sanctimony: affected or hypocritical holiness Share describes herself to a T. Decent human beings see the exposure of falsehood to be about the discovery of reality and the promotion of justice. Sanctimonious human beings project their own hypocrisy onto those seeking the truth.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE
I interviewed her, in case anyone would like to listen to that: http://batgap.com/anita-moorjani/ From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yifu Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine
What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week,... If she hasn't, she'll piss away the last of them now. :-) ...But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. The thing is, I think most of us know that this whole vendetta against Share is not about what she said to Robin at all. The vendetta started before that, when share bailed from the Judy Clique and started having opinions of her own and not bad-mouthing Judy's sworn enemies the way she was supposed to do. The Robin thang is just a charade -- a mask to hide the fact that Judy will never forgive Share for not wanting to be part of her Haters Club. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Just in case anyone reading this post of Share's is brainless enough to have been taken in by it (Share evidently has little respect for the intelligence of FFLers), allow me to explain a couple of things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! What I've been badgering Share about is, of course, to make it right with Robin. I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. Actually I said this just recently *to Share*. Odd that she would get that wrong, isn't it? What I said to Share was that I would not recommend to Robin that he reconcile with her. I would recommend that he stay as far away from her as possible, even if she were to retract and apologize for her accusation. That's something she needs to do just on the general principle of doing the right thing, not in hopes of a reconciliation. It's too late for that, but it's never too late to do the right thing. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. I don't think anybody here is so metaphorically challenged as Share seems to think, but just in case: If Share were to explicitly retract and apologize for her accusation, that would constitute taking it off the record. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. Oh, my goodness. I have more than enough excuses to stay on Share's back indefinitely. Her reprehensible treatment of Robin is just at the top of my list. You know what would stop me? If Share retracted her accusation, apologized to Robin, *and* gave up her phony, dishonest act on FFL. (Try it and see, Share. You will feel so much better once you've made peace with reality and no longer need to constantly throw up barriers against it.) I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. Share is absolutely right. I have, of course, been speaking for myself all along. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Share never *has* had anything to say to me about it, so this doesn't represent any change in her behavior. That's the problem, you see. She's been doing an intricate dance (including in the post I'm responding to) in an attempt to *avoid* addressing the points I've raised about her dishonesty in this matter. Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! sanctimony: affected or hypocritical holiness Share describes herself to a T. Decent human beings see the exposure of falsehood to be about the discovery of reality and the promotion of justice. Sanctimonious human beings project their own hypocrisy onto those seeking the truth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.13
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: You pay a paltry 19 Euros per year for a pass. Then you walk up to a Velib bike rack, swipe your card, take the bike, and ride it. If you ride for less than half an hour, when you check it in at the next Velib site there is no charge. If you ride that particular bike for longer, there is a very reasonable charge. So I went out bike riding in Paris. Any of these for hire? Yanks can always do it better - wave your freak flag high, and all that. http://vimeo.com/64653759#at=0
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy? Sunshine Sal always refused to take Judy seriously, and treated her as the abusive petty tyrant she is. Judy reacted to that the way she always does, with hatred and vendettas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
...her perception was there was no karmic cause for her cancer, other than the fear thoughts and feelings she had had in this life that became actualized in her body. In other words, her karma. Fear causes a lot of cancers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Would you be open to the possibility that you may be attached to the ideas of karma the Hindus have promoted for centuries? The only reason people believe that point of view is true is that they believe it. In truth, our reality is based on perception. For example, many people are convinced that Marshy was a saint and would therefore go to some sort of Hiranyaloka where others believe that he would be consigned to the places as you say, that criminals go. Moorjani didn't say that karma doesn't exist, only that her perception was there was no karmic cause for her cancer, other than the fear thoughts and feelings she had had in this life that became actualized in her body. The idea that one goes into freedom upon death is not new. Read Michael Roads book Journey into Oneness. He has some experiences of similar bent. I took from her book the feeling that we are so powerful we are able to create both in body and out of body pretty much what we want. For her, it was Oneness, for others who still have need for more concrete experience they might go into more touchable feel-able worlds. Not all of this is clear to me. Why do we take these bodies in the first place? If God is real, what the heck does he/she want to experience such torment? It is a bit disconcerting that people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani have the feeling/experience that God perceives all that we suffer as being just ok, cuz the entire universe is rolling along as it should be. What I feel is the karma rap, is just that a rap, a belief. That's my deal. One thing I am curious about, since you thought well of Alexander's book, how do you feel about his assertion that God told him that evil was necessary for free will to exist? From: Yifu yifuxero@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE Â She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of
Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine
Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy? By the way, this is what is known among Internet old timers as a Hate Setup. It's akin to asking a guy wearing a white sheet and a pointy white hat what exactly he doesn't like about black people. It's an invitation to rant. But now that Ann has gotten the ball rolling, let's give the person she's feeding setup lines to some more fodder for when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday: - What was it that Ruth did to piss off Judy so much that she drove her away from FFL? - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Wow, good thing turq responded, before he leaves FFL!!! Close call, Share. Sally Sunshine lives in Fairfield. You could probably look her up, and ask her yourself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine
Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmqv6V44Sk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? Though as a fellow member of the Geminian tribe, I conclude that you have many, many, better things to do, today, and every day, than fulfilling your curiosity about whats-her-face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine  Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? Get a life. If Sal had wanted to be known by her real name, she would have used it here on FFL. Those of us who know it respect her -- and her decision to leave this place behind in favor of Having A Life -- well enough that we're not going to tell you. If someone else does, it probably means that they mean Sal ill, and want to try to suck her back into the FFL tarbaby. She was -- and is -- a nice lady, and funny as hell. I miss her intelligence here. Her crime was refusing to take Judy's shit. In other words, don't try to stalk someone in real life who left this this virtual place and stayed left. That's just rude. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Call me paranoid, call me delusional but this post by Barry just nails the pure evilness of Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:58 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy? By the way, this is what is known among Internet old timers as a Hate Setup. It's akin to asking a guy wearing a white sheet and a pointy white hat what exactly he doesn't like about black people. It's an invitation to rant. But now that Ann has gotten the ball rolling, let's give the person she's feeding setup lines to some more fodder for when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday: - What was it that Ruth did to piss off Judy so much that she drove her away from FFL? - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
You are a strange bird, castigating us all, for not leaving this place, FFL, your addiction. Praising someone for their fortitude and strength because they have overcome FFL, your addiction. Implying just recently that you were ready to leaving here, FFL, your addiction. Confused much, Barry? Can't tell a snake from a ladder anymore? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? Get a life. If Sal had wanted to be known by her real name, she would have used it here on FFL. Those of us who know it respect her -- and her decision to leave this place behind in favor of Having A Life -- well enough that we're not going to tell you. If someone else does, it probably means that they mean Sal ill, and want to try to suck her back into the FFL tarbaby. She was -- and is -- a nice lady, and funny as hell. I miss her intelligence here. Her crime was refusing to take Judy's shit. In other words, don't try to stalk someone in real life who left this this virtual place and stayed left. That's just rude. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:  What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
I think she meant it as her culture would have put it, i.e. - that her actions, karma in other lifetimes was responsible for her this lifetime cancer From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE ...her perception was there was no karmic cause for her cancer, other than the fear thoughts and feelings she had had in this life that became actualized in her body. In other words, her karma. Fear causes a lot of cancers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Would you be open to the possibility that you may be attached to the ideas of karma the Hindus have promoted for centuries? The only reason people believe that point of view is true is that they believe it. In truth, our reality is based on perception. For example, many people are convinced that Marshy was a saint and would therefore go to some sort of Hiranyaloka where others believe that he would be consigned to the places as you say, that criminals go. Moorjani didn't say that karma doesn't exist, only that her perception was there was no karmic cause for her cancer, other than the fear thoughts and feelings she had had in this life that became actualized in her body. The idea that one goes into freedom upon death is not new. Read Michael Roads book Journey into Oneness. He has some experiences of similar bent. I took from her book the feeling that we are so powerful we are able to create both in body and out of body pretty much what we want. For her, it was Oneness, for others who still have need for more concrete experience they might go into more touchable feel-able worlds. Not all of this is clear to me. Why do we take these bodies in the first place? If God is real, what the heck does he/she want to experience such torment? It is a bit disconcerting that people like Michael Roads and Anita Moorjani have the feeling/experience that God perceives all that we suffer as being just ok, cuz the entire universe is rolling along as it should be. What I feel is the karma rap, is just that a rap, a belief. That's my deal. One thing I am curious about, since you thought well of Alexander's book, how do you feel about his assertion that God told him that evil was necessary for free will to exist? From: Yifu yifuxero@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE Â She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you
Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine
Oh stupid me, I was thinking it was you whose sugar was plummeting to dangerous levels that was making you all paranoid about Sal and Judy - may be it's not paranoia but just your passive aggressiveness again? Oh well - just had coffee but no worries lunch time's close. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Ravi, I'm not sure you'd still even know what to do with a set if you were fortunate to come across them. That's why you got me. I can help you navigate these kinds of situations. Here for ya bro. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine
I had a debate with a local vaidya on whether most Indians have kapha or vata constitutions. The vaidya told me his teacher said vata while Dr. Robert Svoboda says kapha. Deepak Chopra said his constitution was pitta/kapha. Skipping breakfast for pittas and vatas may make them fly off the handle in the morning while making kaphas more clear minded. On 04/25/2013 11:04 AM, Share Long wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything so I'm fine with foregoing comradeship with Sal. Doc: I'm a triple Gemini. I love to write. I love to connect via the written word. Go figure. Plus I've been retired much longer than you have so I have pretty much figured out what activities give me the most enjoyment. Good Lord, did I just say that about FFL?! You all have finally driven me bonkers! Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? Get a life. If Sal had wanted to be known by her real name, she would have used it here on FFL. Those of us who know it respect her -- and her decision to leave this place behind in favor of Having A Life -- well enough that we're not going to tell you. If someone else does, it probably means that they mean Sal ill, and want to try to suck her back into the FFL tarbaby. She was -- and is -- a nice lady, and funny as hell. I miss her intelligence here. Her crime was refusing to take Judy's shit. In other words, don't try to stalk someone in real life who left this this virtual place and stayed left. That's just rude. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:  What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
See - how you don't come across as an obnoxious, moronic troll here? This is funny. Good progress Steve - stick to this (not the big tits but the style of the post :-)) and we can all enjoy your posts again. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi, I'm not sure you'd still even know what to do with a set if you were fortunate to come across them. That's why you got me. I can help you navigate these kinds of situations. Here for ya bro. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives. OMG - what the fuck is wrong with you all attention vampires - reducing Sal to a non-entity? Putting a damper on all paranoid fantasies of Share? We need to help Share out so her bulbs work right - come on people, am I the only one on Share's side?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives. OMG - what the fuck is wrong with you all attention vampires - reducing Sal to a non-entity? Putting a damper on all paranoid fantasies of Share? We need to help Share out so her bulbs work right - come on people, am I the only one on Share's side? The evil witch Judy is no match for the light bulb short-circuiting over Share' head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives. OMG - what the fuck is wrong with you all attention vampires - reducing Sal to a non-entity? Putting a damper on all paranoid fantasies of Share? We need to help Share out so her bulbs work right - come on people, am I the only one on Share's side? I can't help it, Ravi. It pains me to see all this juicy attention going to waste on someone who isn't even here to revel in it. It's just not fair, or as Jan Brady would say, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=-yZHveWFvqM#t=8s
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives. OMG - what the fuck is wrong with you all attention vampires - reducing Sal to a non-entity? Putting a damper on all paranoid fantasies of Share? We need to help Share out so her bulbs work right - come on people, am I the only one on Share's side? The evil witch Judy is no match for the light bulb short-circuiting over Share's head. You're right, Ravi. Share needs help, so I'm placing an ad in the Weekly Reader stalker section: Desperately seeking Sal Sunshine. All tips as to the whereabouts and identity of Sal Sunshire will remain confidential.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:10 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I have not been to Fairfield, Iowa for twenty years. However, I keep hearing about these gathering spots, like Revelations. Possibly someone there could assist you? I hang out at Revs, and in all these years, I have yet to meet Sal in person. To be honest, I'm not sure she even exists beyond a collection of ones and zeros scattered among millions of Internet-connected hard drives. OMG - what the fuck is wrong with you all attention vampires - reducing Sal to a non-entity? Putting a damper on all paranoid fantasies of Share? We need to help Share out so her bulbs work right - come on people, am I the only one on Share's side? The evil witch Judy is no match for the light bulb short-circuiting over Share's head. You're right, Ravi. Share needs help, so I'm placing an ad in the Weekly Reader stalker section: Desperately seeking Sal Sunshine. All tips as to the whereabouts and identity of Sal Sunshire will remain confidential. OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Subject matter Rav. Subject matter. There are times when I get my game face on. This qualifies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: See - how you don't come across as an obnoxious, moronic troll here? This is funny. Good progress Steve - stick to this (not the big tits but the style of the post :-)) and we can all enjoy your posts again. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Ravi, I'm not sure you'd still even know what to do with a set if you were fortunate to come across them. That's why you got me. I can help you navigate these kinds of situations. Here for ya bro. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@ no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: This is what I think you meant to say Raunch, and in the absence of a qualified editor, I will assume the role. And finally you're making some sense. The evil witch Judy is no match for Share.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.13
On 04/24/2013 08:28 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: turquoiseb: So I went out bike riding in Paris. So, you rode a bike today. Sounds like a great idea, biking in Paris! The city of San Antonio has been designated as a Bronze Level Bicycle Friendly Community by the League of American Bicyclists. Might help if the bicyclists themselves were friendly. Most of them behave like elitist assholes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Boy, boy, crazy boy, keep cool boy. Got a rocket, in your pocket, turn off the juice boy. Go man go, but not like a yo-yo, cool boy, just play it cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc BTW, you're not making a lot of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
Stop irritating me with your irrelevant videos Steve, I don't have to make any sense to idiots like you - but Jackie sure will knock some sense in to you - got taken aback there didn't you? Anyway don't you have better things to do - like console your poor, pitta-putrefied, paranoid friend Share? Even Barry asked her to stop stalking her friend Sal !!! On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:22 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Boy, boy, crazy boy, keep cool boy. Got a rocket, in your pocket, turn off the juice boy. Go man go, but not like a yo-yo, cool boy, just play it cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc BTW, you're not making a lot of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] What Martial Arts Have to Do With Atheism
'An interview with Sam Harris about self-defense and the seduction of faith.' 'Sam Harris is best known as a vocal opponent of religious faith. But he is also a student of martial arts and armed self-defense, and a practitioner of daily silent meditation.' 'In the May issue of The Atlantic, Graeme Wood recounts the experience of learning meditation and Brazilian jiu-jitsu with him. Harris is finishing his next book, Waking Up: Science, Skepticism, Spirituality, about self-transcendence in the absence of religion. Following their encounter, Wood caught up with Harris to discuss violence, faith, and meditation.' http://tinyurl.com/ceur4wo [ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/what-martial-arts-have-to-do-with-atheism/275273/ ]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine's tits
Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, *attention* vampire be able to suck a woman's tits from across the room?? Has Barry commented on the physics of this yet? And not to make you wrong, or anything, Ravi, but I heard Sal had *four* tits - teats, really...two really big ones, and two smaller, more shapely ones, kind of resting underneath the bigger, floppy ones. Her sister actually served as the inspiration for the pillow top mattress... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Surprising IQs of Famous People
Johann Bach was 165. Asia Carrera is 156. Charles Dickens had 180. Marilyn Vos Savant is 228. Surprisingly, Albert Einstein only had 160 compared to some of the people on the list. http://newsterm.blogspot.com/2013/02/johann-sebastian-bachs-iq-was-165.html
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 26-Apr-13 00:15:03 UTC
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine's tits
Well a little too crude for my comfort Doc but whatever rocks yer boat. I suspect Barry donning his pseudo Buddhist, psycho Lenz hat may say your secondary, tertiary through n-ary attention is all over the park and that your trans-incarnational karma is totally out of whack..LOL. On Apr 25, 2013, at 5:04 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, *attention* vampire be able to suck a woman's tits from across the room?? Has Barry commented on the physics of this yet? And not to make you wrong, or anything, Ravi, but I heard Sal had *four* tits - teats, really...two really big ones, and two smaller, more shapely ones, kind of resting underneath the bigger, floppy ones. Her sister actually served as the inspiration for the pillow top mattress... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hey Doc - stop being such an attention vampire, big tits are a turn off for me, I recall Sal being skinny with beautiful small tits, you think she was curvy with really big tits - let's just agree to disagree. The point here is the vile, vindictiveness of the evil witch Judy. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:01 AM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: LOL - I heard she had really big tits, too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her. This is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surprising IQs of Famous People
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Johann Bach was 165. Asia Carrera is 156. Charles Dickens had 180. Marilyn Vos Savant is 228. Surprisingly, Albert Einstein only had 160 compared to some of the people on the list. http://newsterm.blogspot.com/2013/02/johann-sebastian-bachs-iq-was-165.html Marilyn vs Savant really only has an IQ of about 130. Her 228 is due to some fancy manipulation of test scores by her and her publicist in a way that was deliberately designed to allow her to claim world's highest IQ. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything so I'm fine with foregoing comradeship with Sal.   Doc: I'm a triple Gemini. I love to write. I love to connect via the written word. Go figure. Plus I've been retired much longer than you have so I have pretty much figured out what activities give me the most enjoyment. Good Lord, did I just say that about FFL?! You all have finally driven me bonkers! Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... [light figures art lamp sculptures people recycled material socket electricity bulb heads electricity ] From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, very cute but I'm concerned that your blood sugar has plummeted to dangerously low levels. Go get some lunch for God's sake, and not the liquid kind, if you know what I mean. Comment to Doc: no Sal Sunshine in the FF phone book. What to do? Get a life. If Sal had wanted to be known by her real name, she would have used it here on FFL. Those of us who know it respect her -- and her decision to leave this place behind in favor of Having A Life -- well enough that we're not going to tell you. If someone else does, it probably means that they mean Sal ill, and want to try to suck her back into the FFL tarbaby. She was -- and is -- a nice lady, and funny as hell. I miss her intelligence here. Her crime was refusing to take Judy's shit. In other words, don't try to stalk someone in real life who left this this virtual place and stayed left. That's just rude. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] curious about Sal Sunshine Sally Sunshine was the epitome of innocence, purity and beauty. She had long blonde hair and big beautiful blue eyes, men lusted after her and worshipped the very ground she walked on. Women, well, they just hated her.àThis is it Share, as simple and pure as that. Her very innocent purity, alas turned out to be her transgression. Oh how poor Sal suffered at the hands of Judy, the evil witch of FFL. But Share - one day, a stranger, a handsome, strong youth with equally blond hair and equally blue eyes arrived - Curtis as he was known as, feared for his prowess, valor. They fell in love and Curtis rescued Sal from Judy, the evil witch and they both galloped away in Curtis's horse to a magical, beautiful, mysterious land and they both lived happily ever after. On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: àWhat was her alleged transgression against Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy? By the way, this is what is known among Internet old timers as a Hate Setup. It's akin to asking a guy wearing a white sheet and a pointy white hat what exactly he doesn't like about black people. It's an invitation to rant. I don't get that. Who is going to rant? Judy? Don't think so since Share didn't ask Judy and Judy is almost out of posts and certainly isn't going to waste her last one answering this question. So that leaves everyone else to answer (who actually knows, which I don't, before my time) and it is unlikely to create a rant since nobody probably wants to answer (too much old news) and those who would bother to answer probably don't like Judy anyway so that leads me to believe there would be no rant from the peanut gallery you consider the 'bad guys'. Clear as mud? But now that Ann has gotten the ball rolling, With what dear boy? I think you may have me confused with another Ann or somebody else completly. let's give the person she's feeding setup lines to some more fodder for when she Hits The Ground Hating again just after the clock ticks midnight Friday: Huh? This sentence is not understandable and you keep confusing me with Judy or me with Sal or Sal with the KKK or what the hell are you trying to say? Spit it out. - What was it that Ruth did to piss off Judy so much that she drove her away from FFL? Gez, I think you just gave away Sal's first name. How could you? Steve, is Barry despicable for doing this or just being silly? - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? Steve, I think it is Barry who has the almighty flow chart posted on his wall and he seems to carry it with him wherever he goes. There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, (snip) DrD, no matter what Sal's faults may be, this post was out of line, IMHO. Nobody deserves this kind of crap. Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he was willing to sacrifice his sense of what's right in order to defend you. That had nothing to do with Robin; no matter who the accusation was aimed at, it would have been a *very* big deal indeed, and it's shameful for feste to pretend otherwise. In any case, we know even more about *you* now, snooks. You're the kind of person who is willing to misrepresent something a person you are hostile toward has said, with the intention of trying to mess up their relationships with others. I wonder what feste will think of this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What was her alleged transgression against Judy? Who alleged a transgression against Judy by Sal? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) The thing is, I think most of us know that this whole vendetta against Share is not about what she said to Robin at all. Whoever claims to know this is very seriously mistaken. Except for
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Stop irritating me with your irrelevant videos Steve, I don't have to make any sense to idiots like you - but Jackie sure will knock some sense in to you - got taken aback there didn't you? Ravi, do you even know what you are talking about. I think you are getting this Jackie Chiles and Jackie Chan mixed up. But I think I think you'll figure it out. At least I hope so! And let's be real, given your track record with lawyers got taken aback there didn't you? Anyway don't you have better things to do - like console your poor, pitta-putrefied, paranoid friend Share? Ravi, you are doing what's known in the trade as babbling. Please stop embarassing yourself. A smoke break might have been in order here. Some nice deep drags might have done you a load of good. Even Barry asked her to stop stalking her friend Sal !!! Hooboy. Is this where the term off the rails' comes from? On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:22 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Boy, boy, crazy boy, keep cool boy. Got a rocket, in your pocket, turn off the juice boy. Go man go, but not like a yo-yo, cool boy, just play it cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc BTW, you're not making a lot of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: That was my attorney Jackie Chiles you idiot. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I'm sorry Ravi. Thank God you're a Brahmin. You'd never make it as a Kshatriya. But no matter. Ya got friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFy3YWpRx8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:43 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: OMG dear RD - you had to join this get-Share fest, this get-Share orgy isn't it? Remember this dear RD - would John Newton approve of this? Recall he is already quite pissed off at depriving your granddaughter of his goat fainting healing magic. All well and good Ravi,but let's call it like it is. It's a you don't get Share fest You need to gettus your headus outofyour tuchuss* then maybe you'll have more luck * old Yiddish expression This is totally inappropriate. It's nebulous, malicious, obnoxious, outrageous. This man is just trolling for attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Martial Arts Have to Do With Atheism
Tremendous find! Thanks for passing it along. The Yanagi Ryuken metaphor is just perfect; I've actually seen this done, people pretending to be being knocked down by someone who never touched them, all because they believed in his Woo Woo. I've also seen what happens to such Great and Powerful Oz poseurs when someone pulls back the curtain on them and reveals who they really are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: 'An interview with Sam Harris about self-defense and the seduction of faith.' 'Sam Harris is best known as a vocal opponent of religious faith. But he is also a student of martial arts and armed self-defense, and a practitioner of daily silent meditation.' 'In the May issue of The Atlantic, Graeme Wood recounts the experience of learning meditation and Brazilian jiu-jitsu with him. Harris is finishing his next book, Waking Up: Science, Skepticism, Spirituality, about self-transcendence in the absence of religion. Following their encounter, Wood caught up with Harris to discuss violence, faith, and meditation.' http://tinyurl.com/ceur4wo [ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/what-martial-arts-have-to-do-with-atheism/275273/ ]
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Gez, I think you just gave away Sal's first name. How could you? Steve, is Barry despicable for doing this or just being silly? Hi Ann, No Ruth is not Sal's first name. I do happen to know what it is so I can say that with some authority. Ruth was another contributor who had some good posts, or at least I thought so. I think in Ruth's case, she tired of the nitpickiness for which Judy is known for. Actually I thought Judy raised some good points with Ruth. IMO it didn't get to the level of nitpicking that I often find objectionable in Judy's posting. And in the case of Sal, (and I have nothing to base this on, other than my own opinion) I think that she finally had had enough of the constant demeaning from Judy, not at all unlike what we see from Judy towards Share. Although in Share's case I think Judy has amped it up. Putting Share on the level of Monsanto is a first I believe. - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? Steve, I think it is Barry who has the almighty flow chart posted on his wall and he seems to carry it with him wherever he goes. There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfriend@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. Right Judy. So the fact is that Share never called Robin a psychological rapist. That's what we call in the trade, the bottom line. That is a business term that is often applied to other situations. Another example might be something like saying someone hit a home run in a non baseball context. These all come under the heading of devices that are sometimes used by writers. Wait, could we also say that you are what is called a, a, a, LIAR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. Well good. Thank you for clarifying that. Mostly I am just happy for you. I never can be sure of how far off the rails* you can get. * this is another figure of speech applied to a non railroad situation. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. That doesn't surprise me. But it has a tendency to ooze out of you. Sort of like someone who eats a ton of garlic. Eventually it starts to come out of the pores. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. I can't speak for Share, but Idon't think anyone enjoys being the target of your constant, vicious, demeaning attacks. (and I can't help but feeling that a slight smile come over your face at these words) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. Epitaph material here. (replacing Sal with fill in the blank) (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he was willing to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash Uncle Feste of yore - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/298103 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, (snip) DrD, no matter what Sal's faults may be, this post was out of line, IMHO. Nobody deserves this kind of crap. Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he was willing to sacrifice his sense of what's right in order to defend you. That had nothing to do with Robin; no matter who the accusation was aimed at, it would have been a *very* big deal indeed, and it's shameful for feste to pretend otherwise. In any case, we know even more about *you* now, snooks. You're the kind of person who is willing to misrepresent something a person you are hostile toward has said, with the intention of trying to mess up their relationships with others. I wonder what feste will think of this. ---
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the illustrious footsteps of his grandfather. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some
[FairfieldLife] Re: Responses to DrD, Stevie-poo, Share, and Barry
Ravi, you are a piece of work. Perhaps at some point you will realize that people change, situations change, and people respond to them accordingly. Even if you find yourself stuck in the same rut, others may not be so stuck. Does this remind you of someone you know, rather intimately? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbYIGS8lvf8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbYIGS8lvf8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash Uncle Feste of yore - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/298103 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:27 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Sorry, but that reminds me, would a male, or lesbian, (snip) DrD, no matter what Sal's faults may be, this post was out of line, IMHO. Nobody deserves this kind of crap. Using my last post of the week to clean up a bunch of pathetic messes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: It's hard to read, feste, that you consider calling someone a psychological rapist to be no big deal. Hey Judy, would you care to put your well honed investigative skills to work and show where Share actually used this, exact, term in addressing, or referring to Robin, or is just this just some concoction on your part. I'll wait. P.S. A straight answer will be preferred if you are capable of one. Well, yours is not a straight question, but I'll give you a straight answer anyway: As you know, you're just echoing Share's dimwit ploy. As you also know, I pointed out to her that someone who commits rape (psychological or physical) is *by definition* a rapist. So if you claim you were psychologically raped by somebody, as Share did, you are ipso facto accusing them of being a psychological rapist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Judy, honey, hopefully you have extinguished your fifty posts for the week, But thank you, thank you very much for this Share - Monsanto tirade. You're not even smart enough to respond to the right post. This one had nothing to do with Monsanto. But I'll comment on your remarks as if they had been in response to the correct post: This truly is one for the records books. Share's stature in your mind is of global proportions. Yes, it's true, I've liked her from the start, but you are elevating her status to a whole other level. You missed the irony *again*, Stevie boy. It was Share who elevated *me* to global stature by suggesting that I was so powerful I could take on Monsanto. I'm just riffing on that idiocy. But it's pretty good entertainment, if it wasn't so poisonous to the person spewing it. Sorry to disappoint you, but actually I'm immune to my own poison. Hopefully it did cause Share some discomfort (although she'll deny it), if only because of the effort required for her to block out the reality and pretend she was untouched by it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, please don't you go daft too. Of course I figured Sunshine was not her last name! But I wanted to kid Doc without fibbing so I did look it up in the FF phone book. Besides I don't think having been bullied by Judy makes a great basis for anything Actually Sal was the bully. I just bullied her back, and she didn't like it. (snip) Just how desperate Judy is shows in her most recent jabs at feste. Feste and Robin, as best as I remember, have had only cordial and interesting exchanges. But Judy seems to be trying to put the kabash (Kibosh, not kabash.) on that friendship too. Hmmm, detecting a pattern, light bulb going on over Share head... Light bulb going on over Share['s] head: Oh, boy, I'll bet I can make feste loathe Judy and make Robin loathe feste *and* Judy by pretending she was trying to create enmity between them. You poor sap. Did you really think I wouldn't correct you? Did you really think either feste or Robin would fall for this? (What was the *other* friendship I've been trying to put the k[ibo]sh on, by the way?) In the first place, as I'm quite sure you know, feste not long ago went through a phase of denouncing Robin rather nastily. He's told us he got over that, and I hope it's true, because he and Robin *did* have some wonderful exchanges. In the second place, my jab at feste had to do with his dismissing your accusation that Robin was a psychological rapist as no big deal. That's shocking, and what it told us about him was that he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week your posts still reflect your willingness to reconcile with Robin interspersed with your other phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. Feste and Steve are not around but your sweet-talking, damsel in distress routine means there are no dearth of shameless, brainless, clueless idiots who are ensnared into defending you at all costs - why, Steve's grandson is one of them, continuing in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Ravi, you really are wearing me out. I can only toy with you for so long. It's two hours earlier where you are. I'm getting ready to turn in. Try something to calm yourself down before you retire for the evening. That's what I'm going to do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** Ravi, you're in a league of your own with the reactive, frivolous, stupid posts. But I liked the lawyer bit. I wish you'd stay on that theme a little more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Please don't humiliate yourself with your frivolous, careless, reactive posts - day in and day out. How shameless, clueless, brainless can you be - is there a bottom that you can hit or is this a bottomless pit you are in? Take another shot at it, take your time, there's no hurry, I will give my complete attention to it, I promise. Come up with something that has a morsel of dignity and intelligence - anything - some creative insult, insight, irony. Please I beg you - give me something Steve baby. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** You are vomiting Ravi. You might want to try the toilet. They should have a nice one where you work. Or at least tomorrow, if it should come up again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Sorry dear Share we all got distracted by your stalking err searching for Sal. Considering your disability I have made this real easy for you. Please feel free to take the help of the idiots Feste and Steve. Your post referring to my grandmother below has the characteristics of which of the following a) Phony b) Passive-aggressive c) Platitude puking d) Pitta-putrefied e) Paranoid d) My heart says (a) but it's probably (b) g) My intuition says (b) but it's probably (d) h) My gut says (e) but it's probably (a) i) Feste may say sweet but it's (a) j) Steve may say Kali but it's (b) h) Any of the above k) All of the above Remember there's no right or wrong answer and there's good and bad in you and imagine this process to be a kind of a spring cleaning for your chakras which even the likes of John Newton may approve. Love, Ravi On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Ravi, even before I read this tale of grandsons illustrious and otherwise, I was remembering that sweet sweet photo of you with your Grandmother. See how in tune we are?! Anyway, IMHO what's in that photo is what's really important in life. love, Share From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Dear Share, A sincere apology entails honesty, accountability and integrity and you show none of these qualities - all we see is this bait and switch of an impending apology while you continue along your phony, passive-aggressive, platitude-filled posts. You continue this week after week, this bait and switch strategy and I can clearly see this. Year 2043 - you are in ICU, you can't talk but due to the advances made after the hugely popular book of Dr. Curtis M - NDE's - the perspective of the Epistemological Purity of Neuroscience - my grandson who is your attending neurosurgeon, and the only Neurosurgeon to be enlightened, analyzes your brain scans which Steve's grandson converts as posts to FFL. You are already wildly popular as the leading subject of Dr. Curtis M's book, the only person in history who slips into NDE every week. Robin's not alive but his brain scans show he had an ADE(After Death Experience) and is in heaven chilling with Jesus forcing God to get an Internet connection so he has access to Merriam Webster and a decent ability to keep up with Robin. But my super intelligent, enlightened grandson doesn't break the news of Robin's passing away considering your fragile state. Yet week after week
[FairfieldLife] Re: curious about Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Gez, I think you just gave away Sal's first name. How could you? Steve, is Barry despicable for doing this or just being silly? Hi Ann, No Ruth is not Sal's first name. I do happen to know what it is so I can say that with some authority. Ruth was another contributor who had some good posts, or at least I thought so. I think in Ruth's case, she tired of the nitpickiness for which Judy is known for. Actually I thought Judy raised some good points with Ruth. IMO it didn't get to the level of nitpicking that I often find objectionable in Judy's posting. And in the case of Sal, (and I have nothing to base this on, other than my own opinion) I think that she finally had had enough of the constant demeaning from Judy, not at all unlike what we see from Judy towards Share. Although in Share's case I think Judy has amped it up. Putting Share on the level of Monsanto is a first I believe. Hey Steve. I 've missed you here. You went strangely silent for the last few days and then Ravi showed up and you got verrry animated! In fact, this afternoon became a veritable flurry of activity here at FFL. It has been really, really entertaining. That is good that Sal's name is not Ruth because it didn't sound like it should be Ruth, it just didn't FEEL right. Plus, Ruth is quite an old fashioned name. It was my mother's name actually and she was born in 1921 and I doubt Sal is that old. Too bad I missed all the action here when she was around because I don't have any real 'take' on her other than she had a pretty good mouth on her. I wonder if people will remember Judy so fondly when she quits this place; it sounds like Sal was quite a pistol and of course Judy could qualify as an Uzi in comparison. But I doubt, if Sal was half of what she seems to be cracked up to be, that Judy could have demeaned Sal to the point where she exited this place. That would disappoint me. Now about that Monsanto thing. I read it that Share said Judy should take on Monsanto. I don't think it had anything to do with Share being equated with Monsanto by Judy. Why not check it out for both of us so we get it right? Anyway, you keep that Ravi in line, okay? I think you're just the man for the job - he is such a pest and what is with all those insults he keeps throwing around? Maybe he's trying to quit smoking and is just a bit cranky these days. At any rate, I don't want to take him on, he sort of likes me at the moment and I want to keep it that way. The last thing I want is either Judy or Ravi to start harping at me. One they get the taste of blood it's over, man. Anyway, glad to see you're back and in full swing. Raunchy even made an appearance today. The only one conspicuous by his absence was Curtis - oh, and Robin but he doesn't really count. - What was Andrew Skolnick's mortal sin that she spent *years* stalking him on alt.m.t. and still rants about him occasionally on FFL, a decade after he last posted to any TM forum? - What did John Knapp do to deserve Judy's never- ending hatred? - What exactly does Judy have against Vaj? - What made Judy turn on John from Brazil (do.rflex) and spend so many posts trying to demonize him? - What is it about Curtis (whom most people like) that drives Judy crazy and causes her to devote so much time to trying to get other people to hate him as much as she does? - What was it about Barry that caused Judy to start stalking him within days of his first appearance on alt.m.t., and to continue doing so -- pretty much non-stop -- for over EIGHTEEN YEARS? Steve, I think it is Barry who has the almighty flow chart posted on his wall and he seems to carry it with him wherever he goes. There. That should give her something to do while sitting on the Post Flood bench. :-) Isn't it GREAT that Rick invented the Posting Limits?
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Life Speed Dating
Assign your favorite FFL character to each of these Superheroes In Their Own Minds. Have fun... http://gizmodo.com/5995407/watching-supervillains-try-to-find-dates-through-speed-dating-is-hilarious
