[FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
I sometimes get the impression that John wouldn't take a crap if the stars didn't say it was a good idea. :-) From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
[FairfieldLife] TV review: The Honourable Woman
One of the best British television series of 2011 -- and IMO of all time -- was The Shadow Line, written and directed by Hugo Blick. In seven short episodes, it portrayed the murder of a crime boss that is being investigated by both sides -- the police, and the criminals. What made it so great was the combination of tremendous writing and even more phenomenal acting, featuring such paragons of the English theater and screen as Chiwetel Ejiofor, Christopher Eccleston, Stephen Rea, Rafe Spall, and Eve Best. It earned a Best Director award from BAFTA (the British Emmys) and a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Stephen Rea, who had never been better. Now Hugo Blick is back with another incredibly well-written and well-cast series called The Honourable Woman. It just started its run on BBC Two last night, and will show in the US on the Sundance Channel starting July 31. The writing is, if anything, even better and more tense, drawing viewers into a tale of Israeli-Palestinian-English intrigue from the first moment and not letting up (at least in the first episode) until the last. And the cast -- almost unbelievably -- may be even better. Maggie Gyllenhaal plays Nessa Stein, daughter of an Israeli arms merchant who was assassinated in front of her 29 years ago who has transformed his former weapons empire into a company creating cable networks to connect Israel and the West Bank to the rest of the world, and other philanthropic acts. Stephen Rea plays Hugh Hayden-Hoyle, a career MI6 spy, who is about to be forcibly retired and who is working his last case before being put out to pasture. It does not appear to be as great a role for Rea as Gatehouse, his character in The Shadow Line, but then I can't think of very many roles that *are* of that caliber, other than, say, Keyser Soze in The Usual Suspects. Still, he eats the screen every time he appears on it, and looks as if he's going to add master spy to his lifetime list of great characterizations in this series. Other notables include Janet McTeer as the head of MI6, Eve Best again as an MI6 agent, Andrew Buchan as Nessa's brother, and Lubna Aszabal as Nessa's best friend and nanny to Ephra's kids Atika. The first episode starts with Nessa being sworn in as a new member of the House Of Lords, and quickly segues to murder, extortion, kidnapping, and levels of international intrigue that would do justice to John Le Carré or Len Deighton. I'm reviewing it after only one episode because it's already clear that as a viewer I'm in the hands of a master dramatist, and that it's going to be another winner. Don't miss it, if it becomes available where you live.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
A total of thirty seven bodies were found. Although some were found in the same parts of the city, their distribution suggested that many came from different time periods [source needed]. Mohenjo-daro had three major periods: Early, Intermediate and Late. Some of the bodies were clearly Early period and some clearly Late. The two periods are a thousand or more years apart. Another key point is that the bodies actually showed clear signs of burial. The most infamous group of bodies, as highlighted from the quote above, that were found laying in the middle of the street was actually caused by the fact that the bodies were buried during the later period when the existing buildings had been built over earlier periods. The bodies were buried above a road from a period hundreds of years earlier. Proponents of the bomb explosion often like to point to the preservation of the bodies, particularly the lack of signs of scavengers as proof that something like a background radiation had to keep animals away. Several important points about this, the first is this is one of the driest and hottest spots on the planet, perfect weather for preservation. The scavenger problem is only a problem for the pseudohistorians who seem unaware that the bodies were actually buried. Small groups of bodies dating from multiple periods a thousand years apart, with clear signs of burial, and some stratum coincidences, clearly is weak evidence for an atomic explosion. The evidence is also nothing like what is presented on proponent websites or television. An interesting fact though is that this is not the first time that the Mohenjo-daro bodies were the subject of controversy. The original excavators tried to use them as proof that the indo valley civilization was killed by invading hordes of Aryans. Much of the evidence presented showing that the bodies were not due to a single large scale event was elucidated 50 years ago to disprove the invading horde hypothesis. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
Thanks for posting this Edg - shows how full of it the Movement was early on. Did you ever know exactly what infraction got you on the list to begin with? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday I was blacklisted at teacher training because of being cited in your file by someone never-to-be-named, and I had to talk myself outta that deal with John Black who told me, Ok, go back, I'll get you off the list. He knew me enough to do that, but I could've been bounced. Everyone at the course knew that eyes were upon us from all angles, and one had better toe the movement morality line (an always changing target.) Many WERE sent home without much explanation to them or to the rest of us. Meanwhile, Jerry Jarvis, when asked why initiations were waning was, Impurity in the lives of the teachers. Anyone going to any other spiritual teacher has their dome badge pulled. Jerry told my group that no one should be attending any other lectures lest someone spot us there and ask, Why is a TM teacher at THIS OTHER TECHNIQUE'S MEETING? Like that. I remember a whole session of Maharishi asking us to come to the mike and get all these others techniques out of the way. He batted them all aside with some scholarship but also with some flippancy. (One-month course in Humboldt 1971.) We. All. Knew. The. Price. Of. Apostasy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
we all know it couldn't have been a nuclear device - it had to be one of Indra's lightning bolts From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. I'm not seeing a lot of woo woo in this piece. Just a mystery. And no one seems intent on pushing an agenda. More a earth phenomenon on one side and a curious report on the other and a possible explanation. But Age of Enlightenment? Where does that come in? Or is that the mandatory bash? I guess it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Meditating Fairfield, Iowa on the 4th of July 2014
From this day to the ending of the world we transcendentalists in it shall be proudly remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers and sisters. For thee all who today came to meditate for all with us shall be of my family. We all shall always be indebted, in your honor. 4th of July 2014, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! I'm not seeing a lot of woo woo in this piece. Just a mystery. And no one seems intent on pushing an agenda. More a earth phenomenon on one side and a curious report on the other and a possible explanation. No woo, just interpreting myths as reality. Most ancient cities were destroyed by fire even those in the supposedly peaceful Indus valley I have never come across radioactive skeletons anywhere else. The trouble with ancient conspiracy theories like these is that anyone who discovers something paradigm shifting gets world notoriety and I don't see that happening. But Age of Enlightenment? Where does that come in? Or is that the mandatory bash? I guess it is. Don't be so sensitive, it's a wind up. Nabby would, in any other post, be telling us how fabulous the ancient vedic civilisation was. If they blew themselves up it makes the historical foundation of Marshy's attempt to re-introduce the perfect knowledge of the seers look rather embarrassing. Which is how it actually is anyway because the vedic civilisation you get taught about never existed, what was there met the same fate that other civilisations did. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
To quote the esteemed Scorpion-land citizen Sal, The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] What Would You Do?, was What If?
What if you woke up one morning and the U.S. was being invaded by Mayan aliens? What if they were refugees? What if they were frightened mothers and children? What if they were minors fleeing drug gangs and sexual predators to join their mothers? What if they were asking for asylum from terrorists? What would you do? 1. Just shoot them? 2. Do nothing? 3. Ignore them? 4. Detain, arrest and put them in jail? 5. Let them lose on the streets? 6. Load them on a bus and send them all back to Tijuana and shout Go back to where you came from! USA! USA! 7. Load them on a plane and fly them down to Central America. 8. Let one stay in your home. 9. Give them shelter and food to eat and help them get a lawyer. 10. Send in SWAT teams to root out and rip babies out of their mother's arms. 11. Blame the President and the U.S. Congress. 12. Demand that the federal government secure the border. 13. Demand that the federal government pay all expenses to house them. 14. All of the above. Read more: 'Immigrant detainees: Local officials deflect anger to Obama, Congress' Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-officials-deflect-immigration-uproar-obama-congress-20140703-story.html On 7/1/2014 12:18 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that thousands of child refugees were swarming over the Mexican-American border? What if you found out that the children were trying to join their parents in the U.S.? And, what would you think about deporting thousands of refugee children back to Central America? What if you found out that U.S. SWAT teams were going into homes and ripping children from their parents and sending them back home alone? According to to U.S. law, a child seeking asylum in the U.S. cannot be deported. Go figure. It's a huge humanitarian crisis that is testing the leadership skills of President Barack Obama and the capacity of agencies charged with controlling our borders and dealing with asylum requests. Desert Sun: http://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/editorials/2014/06/28/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-us-border/11698429/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
On 7/3/2014 10:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/3/2014 8:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I have a laugh at you guys who say this is forced as you are showing everyone how ridiculous you all are, Im not an Amma devotee at all. What does this post mean? IT MEANS YOU GUYS LAY OFF AMMA! Oh, touchy, touchy. Let me rephrase that: You guys just lay off Amma and stop spreading lies. Gail and Bronte.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
John, it sounds like a wonderful trip and great that the planets are so favorable for it. Vios con Dios (-: On Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:44 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa on the 4th of July 2014
Meditating Fairfield, Iowa [1974-2014-] There are times when the world asks ordinary people to do extraordinary things. From this day to the ending of the world we transcendentalists in it shall be proudly remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers and sisters for thee all who today came to meditate for all with us shall be of my family. We all shall always be indebted, in your honor. 4th of July 2014, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
On 7/4/2014 8:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: truth is something you wouldn't recognize unless Marshy told you what it was. I used the example of Raja Luis etc in my last post because that was the example of the last accusation on your part. You really have become as idiotic and incomprehensible as Willy Tex. We are waiting for your evidence about witnessing Bevan's and John's private sex life. What is taking you so long? Apparently you and Edg were telling some pretty big fibs about that. Why not just admit it and be honest? Again, give specific examples of what I have said that I can't back up. Come on do it or shut up. You are a gossip-monger - that's why you got fired from staff at MIU. You're not really interested in our spiritual well-being. You guys just want to spread rumors and talk trash like Gail and Bronte. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
It sure beats the Duck and Cover films of the 50's, as if a flimsy metal and plywood desk was going to save us from a thermonuclear blast... One thing that made me take notice, of the Kansas Capital Of The Age Of Enlightenment site, (active in the late 70's, early 80's), was that it was literally in the middle of a field of ICBM missiles - Every few miles, among the cornfields, was a rectangular fenced area, marked with, Use of deadly force authorized, signs, covered with gravel, with a silo door and the tracks it ran on, in the middle. Spooky. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
[FairfieldLife] Re: TV review: The Honourable Woman
Sounds excellent, I'll keep an eye out for these - Also enjoyed Miss Fischer's Mysteries, and Prime Suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the best British television series of 2011 -- and IMO of all time -- was The Shadow Line, written and directed by Hugo Blick. In seven short episodes, it portrayed the murder of a crime boss that is being investigated by both sides -- the police, and the criminals. What made it so great was the combination of tremendous writing and even more phenomenal acting, featuring such paragons of the English theater and screen as Chiwetel Ejiofor, Christopher Eccleston, Stephen Rea, Rafe Spall, and Eve Best. It earned a Best Director award from BAFTA (the British Emmys) and a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Stephen Rea, who had never been better. Now Hugo Blick is back with another incredibly well-written and well-cast series called The Honourable Woman. It just started its run on BBC Two last night, and will show in the US on the Sundance Channel starting July 31. The writing is, if anything, even better and more tense, drawing viewers into a tale of Israeli-Palestinian-English intrigue from the first moment and not letting up (at least in the first episode) until the last. And the cast -- almost unbelievably -- may be even better. Maggie Gyllenhaal plays Nessa Stein, daughter of an Israeli arms merchant who was assassinated in front of her 29 years ago who has transformed his former weapons empire into a company creating cable networks to connect Israel and the West Bank to the rest of the world, and other philanthropic acts. Stephen Rea plays Hugh Hayden-Hoyle, a career MI6 spy, who is about to be forcibly retired and who is working his last case before being put out to pasture. It does not appear to be as great a role for Rea as Gatehouse, his character in The Shadow Line, but then I can't think of very many roles that *are* of that caliber, other than, say, Keyser Soze in The Usual Suspects. Still, he eats the screen every time he appears on it, and looks as if he's going to add master spy to his lifetime list of great characterizations in this series. Other notables include Janet McTeer as the head of MI6, Eve Best again as an MI6 agent, Andrew Buchan as Nessa's brother, and Lubna Aszabal as Nessa's best friend and nanny to Ephra's kids Atika. The first episode starts with Nessa being sworn in as a new member of the House Of Lords, and quickly segues to murder, extortion, kidnapping, and levels of international intrigue that would do justice to John Le Carré or Len Deighton. I'm reviewing it after only one episode because it's already clear that as a viewer I'm in the hands of a master dramatist, and that it's going to be another winner. Don't miss it, if it becomes available where you live.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
I heard that he kept wanting to sit on Bevan's lap, which was already occupied by three other course participants - a *serious* no-no. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Edg - shows how full of it the Movement was early on. Did you ever know exactly what infraction got you on the list to begin with? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday I was blacklisted at teacher training because of being cited in your file by someone never-to-be-named, and I had to talk myself outta that deal with John Black who told me, Ok, go back, I'll get you off the list. He knew me enough to do that, but I could've been bounced. Everyone at the course knew that eyes were upon us from all angles, and one had better toe the movement morality line (an always changing target.) Many WERE sent home without much explanation to them or to the rest of us. Meanwhile, Jerry Jarvis, when asked why initiations were waning was, Impurity in the lives of the teachers. Anyone going to any other spiritual teacher has their dome badge pulled. Jerry told my group that no one should be attending any other lectures lest someone spot us there and ask, Why is a TM teacher at THIS OTHER TECHNIQUE'S MEETING? Like that. I remember a whole session of Maharishi asking us to come to the mike and get all these others techniques out of the way. He batted them all aside with some scholarship but also with some flippancy. (One-month course in Humboldt 1971.) We. All. Knew. The. Price. Of. Apostasy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
Look a little closer: Pokhran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran Pokhran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran Pokhran (also spelled Pokaran) is a city and a municipality located in the Jaisalmer district of the Indian state of Rajasthan. It is a remote location in t... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran Preview by Yahoo It seems this area was irradiated by nuclear weapons after all, plutonium devices too, that'll explain yer radiation readings... http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/India/IndiaShakti.html http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/India/IndiaShakti.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa on the 4th of July 2014
After program come join us for Bar B Que, Hot dogs and Beer! On Friday, July 4, 2014 8:13 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa [1974-2014-] There are times when the world asks ordinary people to do extraordinary things. From this day to the ending of the world we transcendentalists in it shall be proudly remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers and sisters for thee all who today came to meditate for all with us shall be of my family. We all shall always be indebted, in your honor. 4th of July 2014, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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I never bought any of that ward off misfortune stuff. It was obviously a waste of money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Understood. But fortunately for me I don't need a good or bad jyotish-ee to hep me understand myself. I have Nabby, Buck in the Dome, Dr. D aka Freemacncheesy, and Stevie who has apparently become Willy Tex's understudy to tell me all about myself. Maybe you rub elbows with different TM'ers than I did and than I do, but by FAR the vast majority of TM'ers I ever knew who were into jyotish were into it for two reasons - finding out what kind of good stuff was gone happen, and freaking out when they were told something bad was gonna happen and then scrambling around to buy whatever kind of nostrum was recommended to negate the bad karma. I did it too when I had my chart done, back in 2001. Used all the mantras Brent gave me and bought a big ass moonstone since I hadn't the cash for the size pearl I was supposed to get. Got it wrapped in silver and wore it night and day. Since I didn't die I suppose I could attribute that fact to the remedial measures I took. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted. There are of course bad astrologers as well as good ones. I have found astrology most useful as a tool for self-understanding. Predictions for the future I have found to be iffy at best. And like you I am rather skeptical about preventive measures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Had one done once by Brent Becvar, the jyotish guy for the Chopra Center. Some of the info seemed credible, if you are willing to believe in sade sati which is what I was supposedly in at the time. It was sort of fitting event to the prevailing theory. Some of the other stuff was way off. I have heard many good things about Chakrapani, except for the few people I have spoken with who said he didn't do much for them. I find astrology is wonderful - for those who believe. My destiny, if I have one doesn't have shit to do with the alignment of the planets. So I wouldn't care what Chakrapani had to say about anything. The only thing jyotish had to offer that I was interested in when I was still somewhat of a foolish believer was the idea of preventive measures to prevent or negate one's karma. All of which are bullshit and don't work. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is
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After finishing the excellent series Salamander available on Netflix they recommended Hidden, a British series, which I began watching last night. Also watched the movie Banshee Chapter which started Katia Winter (Sleepy Hollow, Dexter), Michael McMillian (True Blood) and Ted Levine (Monk, The Bridge) as a Hunter S Thompson like character. Winter plays a character investigating her missing boyfriend played by McMillian after he takes a mysterious drug linked to old MKUltra experiments. On 07/04/2014 08:46 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sounds excellent, I'll keep an eye out for these - Also enjoyed Miss Fischer's Mysteries, and Prime Suspect ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the best British television series of 2011 -- and IMO of all time -- was The Shadow Line, written and directed by Hugo Blick. In seven short episodes, it portrayed the murder of a crime boss that is being investigated by both sides -- the police, and the criminals. What made it so great was the combination of tremendous writing and even more phenomenal acting, featuring such paragons of the English theater and screen as Chiwetel Ejiofor, Christopher Eccleston, Stephen Rea, Rafe Spall, and Eve Best. It earned a Best Director award from BAFTA (the British Emmys) and a Best Supporting Actor nomination for Stephen Rea, who had never been better. Now Hugo Blick is back with another incredibly well-written and well-cast series called The Honourable Woman. It just started its run on BBC Two last night, and will show in the US on the Sundance Channel starting July 31. The writing is, if anything, even better and more tense, drawing viewers into a tale of Israeli-Palestinian-English intrigue from the first moment and not letting up (at least in the first episode) until the last. And the cast -- almost unbelievably -- may be even better. Maggie Gyllenhaal plays Nessa Stein, daughter of an Israeli arms merchant who was assassinated in front of her 29 years ago who has transformed his former weapons empire into a company creating cable networks to connect Israel and the West Bank to the rest of the world, and other philanthropic acts. Stephen Rea plays Hugh Hayden-Hoyle, a career MI6 spy, who is about to be forcibly retired and who is working his last case before being put out to pasture. It does not appear to be as great a role for Rea as Gatehouse, his character in The Shadow Line, but then I can't think of very many roles that *are* of that caliber, other than, say, Keyser Soze in The Usual Suspects. Still, he eats the screen every time he appears on it, and looks as if he's going to add master spy to his lifetime list of great characterizations in this series. Other notables include Janet McTeer as the head of MI6, Eve Best again as an MI6 agent, Andrew Buchan as Nessa's brother, and Lubna Aszabal as Nessa's best friend and nanny to Ephra's kids Atika. The first episode starts with Nessa being sworn in as a new member of the House Of Lords, and quickly segues to murder, extortion, kidnapping, and levels of international intrigue that would do justice to John Le Carré or Len Deighton. I'm reviewing it after only one episode because it's already clear that as a viewer I'm in the hands of a master dramatist, and that it's going to be another winner. Don't miss it, if it becomes available where you live.
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On 7/4/2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. In a previous post didn't you indicate that you believed that thoughts could cause change in the physical world? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Salyavin, That's a good question. If the period is very negative without any mitigating effects, I would not attempt to do anything extraordinary. This would apply to attending weddings of relatives in foreign countries. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 9:45 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon? The klan murdered people all over the south, but the TMO is MJ's enemy. Go figure.
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MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 9:49 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't see it as a matter of belief at all. It's more a question of the accuracy with which the chart is interpreted... Noting the fact that the ancient Indians invented numerals, the zero, and the naught, it is not surprising that they may have invented astronomy also. Certainly, the readers of the Indian Brihat Samhita, perhaps the world's oldest self-help manual, think this is so. It is a fact needing no further proof that /the first sight of another person's face can determine the outcome of an entire day. / However, we should all pay very careful heed to the prediction in the Brihat: /'If a man or woman is seriously ill and his spouse's face looks shinning and bright, he or she is sure to die'. / However, if this fellow is not seriously mistaken, according to a recent reading by Rita using Parashara's Light, in exactly one more incarnation, WillyTex will bethe Prime Minister of India! Go figure. Titles of interest:: 'Stars of India' Recent travels in India. by Peter Holt Mainstream, 1998 'Astrology of the Seers' A modern classic describing general Indian Astrology. by David Frawley 'Beneath a Vedic Sky' One of the best books concerning Jyotish by a teacher of TM. Includes CD. by William Levacy
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Feste, Chakrapani has been called the jyotishi for the celebrities in LA. I've taken a course from him in Seattle once. He's very knowledgeable. I believe his success came primarily from Muktananda who requested for him to work in the USA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : MJ, I'm wondering if you have ever had your jyotish chart done by a competent astrologer. If not, you might be surprised at the results. I had mine done many years ago by Chakrapani, who is a noted LA astrologer. It was astonishing how well he had me pegged. It was very illuminating. I have had similar positive results from Western astrologers too. The cosmos stamps its unique signature on you at birth, I have no doubt about it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
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On 7/4/2014 10:08 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. You are incorrect. According to most Christians in S.C. and in the South, you must REPENT - it's not enough to mouth the word Jay-sus before you die. When you repent you can be saved - once saved, always saved. Get a Bible and read it. Get some smarts and learn what you are talking about and then get back to us. Thanks. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. *From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? Is that likely? Why would this make jyotish practical, the only way the sun won't rise is if the Earth stops spinning. Unless you're going to predict we would all die, but I could tell you that without any astro-software! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? On 7/4/2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. Well, it's settled then - gravity does not suck. Thanks And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, That's a good question. If the period is very negative without any mitigating effects, I would not attempt to do anything extraordinary. This would apply to attending weddings of relatives in foreign countries. I would say, planets be damned, go and enjoy yourself! Here's another question, suppose you didn't work out your chart and went and had a good time, only to look later and found it was supposed to have been crap. What would you think? I'm going to Spain myself this year, bit of camping in the mountains, bit of snorkelling if I can get away from the tourists. Will be looking at the stars you can be sure, but only for the view of our home galaxy you get when away from city lights. Can't wait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
On 7/4/2014 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. According to my Asrtro-physics teacher, astrology reveals the result of our past karma, expressed probably in terms of what we crudely call our planetary influences. Astrology reveals the consequence of our actions which we do not remember in this life and are untraceable in this birth, planets, therefore, indicate the results of previous karma and hence there is nothing like fate or destiny in its absolute sense controlling us. The future is a reflection of the past. The horoscope simply indicates the future. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Would You Do?, was What If?
Texas officials appealed to the Obama administration on Thursday to secure the U.S.-Mexico border once and for all as waves of illegal immigrant children overwhelm the system, with one lawmaker saying U.S. military bases effectively have been transformed into camps to handle the influx. 'Texas rep says military bases 'turning into refugee camps,' appeals for help on border' http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/03/texas-rep-says-military-bases-turning-into-refugee-camps-appeals-for-help-on/ On 7/4/2014 9:59 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up one morning and the U.S. was being invaded by Mayan aliens? What if they were refugees? What if they were frightened mothers and children? What if they were minors fleeing drug gangs and sexual predators to join their mothers? What if they were asking for asylum from terrorists? What would you do? 1. Just shoot them? 2. Do nothing? 3. Ignore them? 4. Detain, arrest and put them in jail? 5. Let them lose on the streets? 6. Load them on a bus and send them all back to Tijuana and shout Go back to where you came from! USA! USA! 7. Load them on a plane and fly them down to Central America. 8. Let one stay in your home. 9. Give them shelter and food to eat and help them get a lawyer. 10. Send in SWAT teams to root out and rip babies out of their mother's arms. 11. Blame the President and the U.S. Congress. 12. Demand that the federal government secure the border. 13. Demand that the federal government pay all expenses to house them. 14. All of the above. Read more: 'Immigrant detainees: Local officials deflect anger to Obama, Congress' Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-officials-deflect-immigration-uproar-obama-congress-20140703-story.html On 7/1/2014 12:18 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that thousands of child refugees were swarming over the Mexican-American border? What if you found out that the children were trying to join their parents in the U.S.? And, what would you think about deporting thousands of refugee children back to Central America? What if you found out that U.S. SWAT teams were going into homes and ripping children from their parents and sending them back home alone? According to to U.S. law, a child seeking asylum in the U.S. cannot be deported. Go figure. It's a huge humanitarian crisis that is testing the leadership skills of President Barack Obama and the capacity of agencies charged with controlling our borders and dealing with asylum requests. Desert Sun: http://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/editorials/2014/06/28/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-us-border/11698429/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 7/4/2014 4:37 AM, salyavin808 wrote: It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. You are not even making any sense. It was probably a nuclear comet. According to what I've read, a natural nuclear fission reactor is a uranium deposit where analysis of isotope ratios has shown that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions have occurred. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
So sorry Michael but Herr Schicklgrüber not only gets heaven but a fine seat in front of YVHV. All he had to do was ask Haysoos to forgive him for his sins - including the millions he fried. I'm sure those millions of Yews will be applauding as YVHV says ... Why sure - come on in. Not even MMY had the gall to offer something so wondrous. This is why the Romans called Christianity the religion of women and slaves. Who else would depend so heavily upon having no responsibility? Got gall?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Since when have you felt the water in your body sloshing about? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 7/4/2014 5:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The original excavators tried to use them as proof that the indo valley civilization was killed by invading hordes of Aryans. Aryans landed from mars - everyone knows that. The question is, did the Aryans come into India or did the Aryans come out of India?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 7/4/2014 6:54 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. It was probably a nuclear comet. Nuclear weapons or reactors weren't invented until 1945. According to what I've read, the location of Oklo is the only known location for this in the world and consists of 16 sites at which self-sustaining nuclear fission reactions took place approximately 2 billion years ago, and ran for a few hundred thousand years, averaging 100 kW of power output during that time. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
If it doesn't it won't have shit to do with jyotish or the (according to Marshy) lesser forms of astrology. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 7/4/2014 5:50 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: we all know it couldn't have been a nuclear device - it had to be one of Indra's lightning bolts The conditions under which a natural nuclear reactor could exist had been predicted in 1956 by Paul Kuroda. The conditions found were very similar to what was predicted. Wake up and smell the coffee! http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1288730/pg1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. On 7/4/2014 9:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Apparently the USA sent up a satelite about 5 years ago that measures radio-activity, and it found that there is evidence of thousands of atomic blasts throughout planet earth, dating back to possibly hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years ago.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swami Nityananda Chakrapani D. Ullal learned astrology at the feet of his father and grandfather, both renowned astrologers of Kerala state in south India. Even though his father directed him to a university education, resulting in degrees in commerce and law, Chakrapani ultimately returned to the traditional science. He lives in Los Angeles. California, where his clients include movie stars, major corporations and the immigrant Indian community. In an exclusive interview for HINDUISM TODAY, he discusses his craft: HINDUISM TODAY: What was your association with Swami Nityananda and Baba Muktananda? Chakrapani: I don't think there is anyone as great as Swami Nityananda living at this moment. He was never on a human level in the sense of human emotions. He was much beyond that. He was just like a God. Whenever I went to see him, my whole body used to shiver. That's the power he had. Baba Muktananda I saw for the first time in 1958. It is Muktananda who said. You should become an astrologer. He really pushed me into that and that is why in the late 1960's I really started my profession as such. I was one of the closest persons to Swami Muktananda for 25 years. It is he who brought me to America. HT: What is the spiritual side of astrology? Chakrapani: Hindu astrology is based on bringing harmony into the body, mind and spirit, as against the western astrology which is goal oriented and influenced by the culture of the society which says I want to be in control of everything, rather than bringing harmony into oneself. Hindu astrology is the gateway to philosophy. When a person values astrology not just as a profession, but as a knowledge, as a wisdom, as a means to understand one's growth, then that knowledge is supported by the devotion - the feelings, the faith you have in your own self, as well as in the Deity or the spirit which may guide oneself. And when you have that kind of a faith. Then the inspiration within gives you the judgement, rather than the mechanical interpretation of the chart, which everybody can learn by studying textbooks. HT: Many people complain about astrologers wanting large sums of money for rituals to fix a bad chart. What is your advice? Chakrapani: Remedial measures are genuine. But most of the people practicing the astrology do it as a business. They use it as a tool to bring fear into the client to spend money on things which may not be necessary, nor are they capable of handling it. HT: What can be remedied and what cannot? Chakrapani: There is the destiny which cannot be changed, no matter what you do, the destiny which can be changed with hard work and the destiny which can be changed with bringing changes into your life. Most of the things of one's life can be changed. Death cannot be changed, but disease can be minimized. You cannot eradicate suffering, but you can reduce it. HT: Can the astrologer do the remedy for the client, or should the client do the remedy? Chakrapani: Both are not correct. The astrologer can do the remedy, but he has no time. If he is proficient in his own spiritual practices and he has values for what he does, then he may undertake a very few people for whom he is close. The client cannot do it, because the propitiation of these planets is for an adept in the spiritual practices of mantras and tantras, then only they will work. HT: Will California sink in the ocean? Chakrapani: It will never sink in the ocean. I am against that kind of a statement. It may sink in the ocean after maybe one million years. In the next generation, it won't sink. HT: What about India and Sri Lanka? Chakrapani: India is definitely going to come out of all these problems, as well as Sri Lanka. Saturn is just moving into Capricorn in the month of December and it will be there for two years and three months or so. Once the Saturn moves out of Capricorn, all these problems will begin to settle down for them. I'm very certain that all these problems will be resolved amicably ultimately. HT: What is your message for our readers? Chakrapani: Astrology is a science of Indications only, it is not a fatalistic science. So therefore people should have the idea that they have the power, it they want to, to bring amendments and changes, to modify the influence by their effort and their willingness. When I give a reading I say, By using the willpower, by gaining the grace of God or guru, we can change everything. Otherwise people misunderstand astrology by thinking Oh, it is in the stars. It is in the stars for only those people who do not want to take responsibility for their life. Article copyright Himalayan Academy. Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swami Nityananda - Magazine Web Edition March 1991 - Publications - Hinduism Today Magazine
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Incorrect! There is no evidence that Hitler accepted Jesus into his heart before he kilt hisself. But then, the TM Movement claims there is no evidence that long term TM can lead to suicide either so From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain So sorry Michael but Herr Schicklgrüber not only gets heaven but a fine seat in front of YVHV. All he had to do was ask Haysoos to forgive him for his sins - including the millions he fried. I'm sure those millions of Yews will be applauding as YVHV says ... Why sure - come on in. Not even MMY had the gall to offer something so wondrous. This is why the Romans called Christianity the religion of women and slaves. Who else would depend so heavily upon having no responsibility? Got gall?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
I've heard that Atlantis sunk because they were doing all sorts of science against nature, including but not limited to nuclear weapons. On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:40 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. On 7/4/2014 9:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Apparently the USA sent up a satelite about 5 years ago that measures radio-activity, and it found that there is evidence of thousands of atomic blasts throughout planet earth, dating back to possibly hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years ago.
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Great article, thanks for posting MJ. On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:39 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Astrologer Chakrapani on Remedies, California and Swami Nityananda Chakrapani D. Ullal learned astrology at the feet of his father and grandfather, both renowned astrologers of Kerala state in south India. Even though his father directed him to a university education, resulting in degrees in commerce and law, Chakrapani ultimately returned to the traditional science. He lives in Los Angeles. California, where his clients include movie stars, major corporations and the immigrant Indian community. In an exclusive interview for HINDUISM TODAY, he discusses his craft: HINDUISM TODAY: What was your association with Swami Nityananda and Baba Muktananda? Chakrapani: I don't think there is anyone as great as Swami Nityananda living at this moment. He was never on a human level in the sense of human emotions. He was much beyond that. He was just like a God. Whenever I went to see him, my whole body used to shiver. That's the power he had. Baba Muktananda I saw for the first time in 1958. It is Muktananda who said. You should become an astrologer. He really pushed me into that and that is why in the late 1960's I really started my profession as such. I was one of the closest persons to Swami Muktananda for 25 years. It is he who brought me to America. HT: What is the spiritual side of astrology? Chakrapani: Hindu astrology is based on bringing harmony into the body, mind and spirit, as against the western astrology which is goal oriented and influenced by the culture of the society which says I want to be in control of everything, rather than bringing harmony into oneself. Hindu astrology is the gateway to philosophy. When a person values astrology not just as a profession, but as a knowledge, as a wisdom, as a means to understand one's growth, then that knowledge is supported by the devotion - the feelings, the faith you have in your own self, as well as in the Deity or the spirit which may guide oneself. And when you have that kind of a faith. Then the inspiration within gives you the judgement, rather than the mechanical interpretation of the chart, which everybody can learn by studying textbooks. HT: Many people complain about astrologers wanting large sums of money for rituals to fix a bad chart. What is your advice? Chakrapani: Remedial measures are genuine. But most of the people practicing the astrology do it as a business. They use it as a tool to bring fear into the client to spend money on things which may not be necessary, nor are they capable of handling it. HT: What can be remedied and what cannot? Chakrapani: There is the destiny which cannot be changed, no matter what you do, the destiny which can be changed with hard work and the destiny which can be changed with bringing changes into your life. Most of the things of one's life can be changed. Death cannot be changed, but disease can be minimized. You cannot eradicate suffering, but you can reduce it. HT: Can the astrologer do the remedy for the client, or should the client do the remedy? Chakrapani: Both are not correct. The astrologer can do the remedy, but he has no time. If he is proficient in his own spiritual practices and he has values for what he does, then he may undertake a very few people for whom he is close. The client cannot do it, because the propitiation of these planets is for an adept in the spiritual practices of mantras and tantras, then only they will work. HT: Will California sink in the ocean? Chakrapani: It will never sink in the ocean. I am against that kind of a statement. It may sink in the ocean after maybe one million years. In the next generation, it won't sink. HT: What about India and Sri Lanka? Chakrapani: India is definitely going to come out of all these problems, as well as Sri Lanka. Saturn is just moving into Capricorn in the month of December and it will be there for two years and three months or so. Once the Saturn moves out of Capricorn, all these problems will begin to settle down for them. I'm very certain that all these problems will be resolved amicably ultimately. HT: What is your message for our readers? Chakrapani: Astrology is a science of Indications only, it is not a fatalistic science. So therefore people should have the idea that they have the power, it they want to, to bring amendments and changes, to modify the influence by their effort and their willingness. When I give a reading I say, By using the willpower, by gaining the grace of God or guru, we can change everything. Otherwise people misunderstand astrology by thinking Oh, it is in the stars. It is in the stars for only those people who do not want to take responsibility for their life. Article copyright
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salyavin, wikipedia agrees with you (-: On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:27 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! On 7/4/2014 10:57 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D This type of messages have been around for sometime and it seems the scientists are not taking these seriously any more as they could have probably carried out the radioanalytical studies and found the pattern of the available radioisotopes in those sites to be different from what is available in the sites where nuclear explosions have been actually carried out. - Sunil KB https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ancient_indian_astrology/conversations/messages/72072
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Like. On 7/4/2014 11:09 AM, obbajeeba wrote: fee
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:-)(-: On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:50 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Like. On 7/4/2014 11:09 AM, obbajeeba wrote: fee
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Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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Ha, emptybill! With 7.2 billion peeps on the 3rd rock, at 9 months a pop, that's how many gazillion hours a woman has been extremely responsible? On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:28 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So sorry Michael but Herr Schicklgrüber not only gets heaven but a fine seat in front of YVHV. All he had to do was ask Haysoos to forgive him for his sins - including the millions he fried. I'm sure those millions of Yews will be applauding as YVHV says ... Why sure - come on in. Not even MMY had the gall to offer something so wondrous. This is why the Romans called Christianity the religion of women and slaves. Who else would depend so heavily upon having no responsibility? Got gall?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, wikipedia agrees with you (-: That'll teach you not to trust wikipedia. Oh wait On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:27 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, it's just common sense. The moon affects the tides. Our bodies are 80% water. Therefore, the moon must affect us, because we are a vertical body of water! That'll teach you not to trust common sense! The first problem is that the moon's gravitational effect on us is minimal due to our small size, it only works on large open bodies of water anyway not small things like our heads. What would water moving around in our heads do anyway? it won't be worse than bending over - not by a long shot - and that doesn't drive me crazy. But the whole argument would be moot if we had a measurable effect from any phase of the moon but we don't. On Friday, July 4, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets? The moon doesn't affect human behaviour, it's a myth. And even if it did it would be due to it's proximity and gravitational effects. The other planets are so far away there is a larger pull from lorries going past your house. On Friday, July 4, 2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? What's that got to do with astrology? No one has ever demonstrated a link between lunar phase and human emotions/events. Nor with any other astrological claims. I convert for evidence. Or that solar flares affect communication devices? There's money in predicting solar flares, can anyone do it with a star chart? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? The claims of astrology are easy to test and have failed resoundingly whenever anyone has tried. For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. There are no scientific aspects. I can't see how it makes any sense at all. And I used to know how to draw up horoscopes, except I did it the hard way with a slide rule and set of ephemeris. All I know is that the Earth isn't the centre of the solar system and I can't see why my chart is set at birth rather than any time before or after because the stars would be having the same effect - unless the planets are into symbolism I could sit here until doomsday picking holes in it but if it was unequivocally effective I wouldn't have to. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
what science are you referring to ? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
Contemporary mainstream science. There was a link to the article about this posted on FFL a few years ago by Judy, I think. Found the elephant's hoof yet? :-D On 07/04/2014 11:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. *From:* Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Why not ask what would happen if the planets the ancient jyotish-ees couldn't see and didn't know existed would suddenly disappear. In fact JR, I pattern my life and my beliefs after the ancient jyotish-ees who I revere and admire. Much like they ignored the existence of real actual planets, I choose to ignore jyotish and all such metaphysical clap trap. The fact that it was created by ancient Hindoos does not make it anymore appealing to me. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain MJ, Jyotish is more practical than you think. For example, what do you think will happen if the Sun didn't rise tomorrow? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There IS no science to jyotish, nor any other aspect of TM - at best it is pseudo-science, or as we common folk in the South like to call it, made up bullshit. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain salyavin, are you saying that you don't agree that the moon affects tides on earth? Or that solar flares affect communication devices? More importantly, are you saying that there are phenomenon that we're simply not yet able to measure? For a guy who's into science, you surprise me when you don't see the scientific aspects of jyotish. On Friday, July 4, 2014 2:14 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Are you saying that you wouldn't go on a trip to Europe for a family wedding if the planets said it was a bad idea? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Happy Independence Day Everyone!
Lest we Americans forget, today is July 4th, the day to commemorate the birth of this nation. This country was and is an experiment by the Founding Fathers to establish a perfect government. They did so by dividing the power of the government between the three branches of government: the executive, legislative and judicial. Ordinarily, this power would have been held by the king, the supreme ruler. The obvious advantage to this system is to eliminate the power of government from being wielded by a single individual. The disadvantage is very apparent as well when we see the government get bogged down by political maneuvers between the president and certain members of the legislative branch.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
you are nuts if you believe that - even the idea that Egyptians used batteries for electroplating thousands of years ago is not accepted by any mainstream scientists, just a few fringe nuts. As Sal said, how can we have artifacts from thousands of years ago Bronze age, etc but none from some advanced civ? Answer: Such civs didn't exist but nuts who want to believe it ever so badly make up bullshit excuses so they have something to hang their hats on. I mean, anyone who believes in Atlantis being an advanced civ that used nuclear energy and so forth is raving. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast Contemporary mainstream science. There was a link to the article about this posted on FFL a few years ago by Judy, I think. Found the elephant's hoof yet? :-D On 07/04/2014 11:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Independence Day Everyone!
I am happy to live in America, but the idea that the FFs wanted to establish a perfect government is absurd. They were tired of England (a Scorpion nation even then!) screwing around with their streams of income - it was mainly about money, then and now. Take a look at the lives of the Founding Fathers - you might be surprised. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy Independence Day Everyone! Lest we Americans forget, today is July 4th, the day to commemorate the birth of this nation. This country was and is an experiment by the Founding Fathers to establish a perfect government. They did so by dividing the power of the government between the three branches of government: the executive, legislative and judicial. Ordinarily, this power would have been held by the king, the supreme ruler. The obvious advantage to this system is to eliminate the power of government from being wielded by a single individual. The disadvantage is very apparent as well when we see the government get bogged down by political maneuvers between the president and certain members of the legislative branch.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. I guess it would depend if it gets buried or not. And there's always exceptions, like the pyramids at Giza, they are the world's first large buildings and they would probably outlast anything we've built if our civilisation ended tomorrow. But if things get buried they will last. Take the fabulous remains discovered in Turkey at Göbekli Tepe http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Göbekli Tepe http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Welcome to the presentation of the The World’s First Temple, Gobeklitepe … a pre-historic site, about 15 km away from the city of Sanliu... View on www.gobeklitepe.info http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Preview by Yahoo against the usual run of things they were actually buried by the makers (we assume) and are pristine. If they had been left to the elements they would have disappeared by now as they are 12,000 years old! Because of the age there are all sorts of fantasies about them being the Garden of Eden - loads of it on the net - but we will probably never know who built it or why. But why a civilisation that could make nuclear weapons would disappear completely is beyond me, it would have to have been huge. You don't get the sort of technology required from spending most of the day farming, you need a proper scientific caste with money to burn, and all the technology involved would have to be painstakingly invented. It takes time and makes a mess, it took most of the population of Egypt working together hundreds of years just to make the pyramids. The idea of a nuclear early human culture is just ridiculous, we were too busy hunting rhino's to worry about much else in the sort of time they would have needed to be working out how atoms work. I can't believe I'm actually spending time thinking about it, I'm going out for a drink! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
But you are ignoring the obvious here Sal - the Ascended Masters had helped create all the ancient high civilizations like Lemuria, Atlantis, Shamballa and so forth - these all existed on the ETHERIC plane, not the physical plane so their bodies, clothes, buildings and all that were not gross enough to exist on the physical plane. So when they disappeared, there were never any physical artifacts to leave behind. Plus much of the earth's original technology was imported here by our Space Brothers This is the kind of explanation that a lot of people actually believe. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. I guess it would depend if it gets buried or not. And there's always exceptions, like the pyramids at Giza, they are the world's first large buildings and they would probably outlast anything we've built if our civilisation ended tomorrow. But if things get buried they will last. Take the fabulous remains discovered in Turkey at Göbekli Tepe Göbekli Tepe Welcome to the presentation of the The World’s First Temple, Gobeklitepe … a pre-historic site, about 15 km away from the city of Sanliu... View on www.gobeklitepe.info Preview by Yahoo against the usual run of things they were actually buried by the makers (we assume) and are pristine. If they had been left to the elements they would have disappeared by now as they are 12,000 years old! Because of the age there are all sorts of fantasies about them being the Garden of Eden - loads of it on the net - but we will probably never know who built it or why. But why a civilisation that could make nuclear weapons would disappear completely is beyond me, it would have to have been huge. You don't get the sort of technology required from spending most of the day farming, you need a proper scientific caste with money to burn, and all the technology involved would have to be painstakingly invented. It takes time and makes a mess, it took most of the population of Egypt working together hundreds of years just to make the pyramids. The idea of a nuclear early human culture is just ridiculous, we were too busy hunting rhino's to worry about much else in the sort of time they would have needed to be working out how atoms work. I can't believe I'm actually spending time thinking about it, I'm going out for a drink! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Share, I actually wanted to travel to Spain before this invitation came along. So, there appears to be a synchronicity of events involved here. Michelle, my cousin's daughter, will be happy for her wedding and I'll be happy for attending it and for the opportunity to travel. Also, she was in Paris when I went there in 2003. But I didn't know at that time that she was there too. So, our paths seem to cross quite often. In my chart, she appears to be represented by Mercury which is placed in my first house. It's actually fascinating to see how these events are unfolding. From what I can see, she is making me travel to see her. And, I don't mind since I like to travel anyway. That's the mystery of karma and jyotish. By the way, I am now running the major period of Mercury. Is that interesting or what? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a wonderful trip and great that the planets are so favorable for it. Vios con Dios (-: On Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:44 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I just got an invitation to attend the wedding of my cousin's daughter. Ordinarily, I wouldn't accept an invitation like this from a far away location. But it just so happens that my jyotish chart indicates that I'll be traveling this year due to the exalted Jupiter in conjunction with the lord of the 12th house in Cancer, the first house. Also, the sign of Cancer represents the second house of marriage for my cousin's daughter, who is represented by the 12th house in my own chart. These indicators look auspicious for everyone involved since the benefic Jupiter is exalted while in transit on the same sign for the entire year. So, I should take advantage of this karmic event to get out of San Francisco and visit a foreign country. While over there, I might as well take a side trip to Madrid and a little town called Antequera, which just so happens to be the namesake of the town where I grew up in the Philippines. It should be a good trip since I'm expecting to travel with my cousin and her husband. And, NO. I don't speak fluent Spanish. I've taken the language course while in high school. But I'll bring my Spanish dictionary just in case. Believe it or not, I made a previous trip to France, Switzerland, and Italy without knowing how to speak their languages. If all of the planets align properly, I should be in Seville, Spain on September 27, 2014 to attend the wedding.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
MJ, It's possible that Jesus was actually teaching the same concepts that MMY was teaching. The kingdom of God can be translated to Pure Consciousness in TMO speak. When Jesus said during the Last Supper to eat his body and blood in the form of bread and wine, he was actually saying that he was and is the Consciousness that created the basic elements which constituted the bread and wine. So, in effect, the apostles were eating the body and blood of Jesus in the form of bread and wine, although they did not fully understand the significance at that time. Even today, most Christian churches don't understand the significance of the Last Supper. But since you're not a Christian (from what I can gather), it doesn't really any difference. As MMY stated before, facts or information available in the world can be interpreted differently depending on one's state of consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : according to the folks down here, it don't matter what you do in life, as long as you sincerely give yourself over to Jay-sus before you die. If you do that, God will forgive ALL your sins and you get a plum spot in heaven. That's what my cousin by marriage Bobby did, he who figured so prominently in my story Fat Bitch Doughnuts. As my mother once said of him The Devil ain't got no better servant than Bobby! She said that based mainly on his penchant for cussing, and as momma called it, bad cussing - meaning taking the Lord's name in vain and using the f-word. Momma takes a very dim view of cussing and somehow believes that bad cussing is a sign of influence of the Old Scratch. When she said that about Bobby being the Devil's servant, I pointed out to her that our other cousin Tommy and my own brother, Momma's oldest son cusses everyday as bad or worse than Bobby. She was silent for about 30 seconds until she said Well, I pray for all of 'em ever day. Two weeks before he died, Bobby accepted Jesus and Momma was satisfied he went to heaven as a result. I think about it sometimes. I think it would be a fine thing to be in heaven since Marshy and Company won't be there, them bein' Hindus and all and not believing in Jay-sus. I reckon Marshy is someplace else, maybe schmoozing with Hitler whom he admired in life. From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain Michael slays: ... as we common folk in the South like to call it ... Since yer a Southern boy, how come you haven't taken Jesus into your heart like you shoulda? Instead you played with the hindoo demons and were shafted by the TMO. No doubt you were unique in that regard. Why won't you just get down on yer knees and pray Jesus for forgiveness. Yer still playing with the demons here on FFL and you don't want to admit it to yerself. We could, of course, send a few yer way. Got demon?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Richard, That's an excellent point. But one has to remember that events that occur in this lifetime can be due to karmas from the past life, from actions in this life time, and from karmas of one's parents or ancestors. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/4/2014 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: More likely the planets were used in astrology as crude time markers for cycles in nature. For instance there has been research into recurring 80 cycles in society which have occurred over centuries. The ancients wanted to know when droughts hence famine were likely to occur. According to my Asrtro-physics teacher, astrology reveals the result of our past karma, expressed probably in terms of what we crudely call our planetary influences. Astrology reveals the consequence of our actions which we do not remember in this life and are untraceable in this birth, planets, therefore, indicate the results of previous karma and hence there is nothing like fate or destiny in its absolute sense controlling us. The future is a reflection of the past. The horoscope simply indicates the future. On 07/04/2014 08:40 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, are you really asking me what does the moon and its affects have to do with jyotish?! Plus, I think there is research indicating that violence increases at the full moon. My point is that we recognize that the moon affects human behavior so why not the other planets?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Obba, We can read your post. It appears to me that your Windows browser edition is old. You have two options: 1. Download the current Windows version from Yahoo. or 2. Download the Chrome browser from Google so that you can access the Groups in Yahoo. Thus, you will be able to post your messages on FFL without fetters. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Mrs. Obba here. I can not see what I am typing. Is there a fee now? Please tell. I am happy Mrs. Obba Hello to you all!
[FairfieldLife] The Old Man
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What Would You Do?, was What If?
What if the federal government gave the immigrants work permits and refugee status? What if they got jobs and worked and paid income taxes? What if we could improve the living conditions in the countries where they came from? An overload of immigrant families at the U.S. border with Mexico has led to calls for aid from the Obama administration and ignited conversation around immigration reform. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/murrieta-braces-more-immigration-protests-n147956 On 7/4/2014 9:59 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up one morning and the U.S. was being invaded by Mayan aliens? What if they were refugees? What if they were frightened mothers and children? What if they were minors fleeing drug gangs and sexual predators to join their mothers? What if they were asking for asylum from terrorists? What would you do? 1. Just shoot them? 2. Do nothing? 3. Ignore them? 4. Detain, arrest and put them in jail? 5. Let them lose on the streets? 6. Load them on a bus and send them all back to Tijuana and shout Go back to where you came from! USA! USA! 7. Load them on a plane and fly them down to Central America. 8. Let one stay in your home. 9. Give them shelter and food to eat and help them get a lawyer. 10. Send in SWAT teams to root out and rip babies out of their mother's arms. 11. Blame the President and the U.S. Congress. 12. Demand that the federal government secure the border. 13. Demand that the federal government pay all expenses to house them. 14. All of the above. Read more: 'Immigrant detainees: Local officials deflect anger to Obama, Congress' Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-officials-deflect-immigration-uproar-obama-congress-20140703-story.html On 7/1/2014 12:18 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that thousands of child refugees were swarming over the Mexican-American border? What if you found out that the children were trying to join their parents in the U.S.? And, what would you think about deporting thousands of refugee children back to Central America? What if you found out that U.S. SWAT teams were going into homes and ripping children from their parents and sending them back home alone? According to to U.S. law, a child seeking asylum in the U.S. cannot be deported. Go figure. It's a huge humanitarian crisis that is testing the leadership skills of President Barack Obama and the capacity of agencies charged with controlling our borders and dealing with asylum requests. Desert Sun: http://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/editorials/2014/06/28/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-us-border/11698429/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wedding Invitation from Seville, Spain
Share, Reproduction was a function of biology and was regulated by the society/civilization surrounding its citizens. In ancient Rome, women and slaves were people who could not exercise free will. Women were legally under the rule of their fathers first and husbands later. Most slaves were captured in warfare and then later sold. They were usually chosen for their ability to perform labor and even if they were household slaves they were unable to employ their power of choice because they were owned by their master and were totally subservient to the will/choice of someone else. Most Christians initially came from these groups, although slaves were the major population. Most women, especially the high-breds, had no need of Christianity since they ruled their households in their husbands name and had many slaves. Same thing in Islam, where it is still legal to own and use slaves. The prefix abd- in all those Arabic names means slave, only in this case, slave of Allah in one of his manifest qualities.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa on the 4th of July 2014
mdixon.6569 writes : After program come join us for Bar B Que, Hot dogs and Beer! Buck writes: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa [1974-2014-] There are times when the world asks ordinary people to do extraordinary things. From this day to the ending of the world we transcendentalists in it shall be proudly remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers and sisters for thee all who today came to meditate for all with us shall be of my family. We all shall always be indebted, in your honor. 4th of July 2014 in Fairfield, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa on the 4th of July 2014
On Solid Rock All Else is Sinking Sand.. As an old and experienced meditator, _l. My hope is built on nothing less Than in abiding experience of the Unified Field transcendent, Science and their righteousness; I dare not trust the sweetest frame, But wholly lean on Its Being. Refrain: On The Unified Field transcendent, The Solid Rock, I stand; All other ground is sinking sand, All other ground is sinking sand. _2.When darkness veils Its lovely face, I rest on Its unchanging grace; In every high and stormy gale, My anchor holds within the veil. _3.Its natural law, its covenant, in source Support me in the whelming flood; When all around my soul gives way, It then is all my hope and stay. _4.When It shall come with triumphant sound, Oh, may I then in It be found; Dressed in Its righteousness alone, Faultless to stand alongside Its throne. Om. mdixon.6569 writes : After program come join us for Bar B Que, Hot dogs and Beer! Buck writes: Meditating Fairfield, Iowa [1974-2014-] There are times when the world asks ordinary people to do extraordinary things. From this day to the ending of the world we transcendentalists in it shall be proudly remembered. We lucky few, we band of brothers and sisters for thee all who today came to meditate for all with us shall be of my family. We all shall always be indebted, in your honor. 4th of July 2014 in Fairfield, -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Not Just Another Tantric Sect!
So, you're thinking that there is an oral tradition in India and that the TM bija mantras are derived from that tradition? Yet, the TM mantras are nowhere mentioned in the Rig Veda. I wonder what's up with that? You would think that there would be some scripture or work composed after the oral tradition that spelled out exactly where the bija mantras came from. Go figure. However, there are no bija mantras mentioned in Patanjali's Yoga Sutra (circa 200 B.C.) or in the Rig Veda. Does the historical Buddha, Shakya the Muni, (circa 400 B.C.) mention any bija mantras? Did the Adi Shankara, the founder of the Shankaracharya tradition, mention any bija mantras? Did Shankara even approve of yogic introspection? Are there any TM bija mantras mentioned in the tantras? So many questions; so few answers. So, let's review what we know. The TM bija mantras must have been formulated after the Buddha and after Patanjali. There are bija mantras mentioned in the tantras. But, when were the tantras composed? According to what I've read, the tantras were composed during the Gupta Age. But, most people can't read the scriptures in Sanskrit, so we don't really know if there are any mention of bija mantras in them or not! So, if Patanjali and Shankara didn't mention any bija mantras, then an enquiring person would want to ask, EVEN IF THE TECHNIQUE WORKS - where do the TM bija mantras come from and from what tradition? After years of practice and study, I think I have the answer to all these questions. Auspicious Wisdom - the Tradition of Sri Vidya http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/srividya.htm
[FairfieldLife] For TMers Only
Warning!!! This is the only message in this thread. Do not read this if you're averse to consciousness-change, either natural or otherwise! Enter at your own risk - the price of admission is your Mind. According to Maharishi, ...soma is produced in the human body when cosmic consciousness is attained. The purpose of soma thus engendered is to enable the individual to see everything as one's infinite self. Maharishi says that the gods are not enlightened, so they need to get soma by means of certain rituals performed by humans. In Deepak Chopra's book, /The return of the Rishi/, soma is described as ...a very rare plant that grows in the Himalayas. But, the soma plant doesn't grow in the Himalayas! Go figure. Seratonin is generated in the brain during TM practice too, so there's no need to procure illegal chemicals. MMY has made a complete program available with hundreds of organic substances and potions available for self medication. /Psychic and spiritual powers (siddhi) may be inborn, or they may be gained by the use of simples, or by mantra, or by striving, or by meditation./ - Patanjali, Y.S. IV, 1.0 Read more: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/nectar.htm
[FairfieldLife] Fly Agaric and Yoga
The use of substances is a ritual practice that is abundantly attested in the shamanic world as well as among some yogins, and in the Vedas. We know that Patanjali himself puts simples (ausadhi), together with samadhi, among the means of obtaining the siddhis. Simples means ecstasy-inducing herbs, from which the elixir of longevity was extracted in Ayerveda. In any case, simples produce ecstasy and not the yogic samadhi. According to Eliade, these mystical means, properly belong to the phenomenology of ecstasy and they were only reluctantly admitted into the sphere of classic Yoga. /Psychic and spiritual powers (siddhi) may be inborn, or they may be gained by the use of simples, or by mantra, or by striving, or by Meditation./ - Patanjali, Y.S. IV, 1
[FairfieldLife] Signing the Pledge
Classics from Usenet: /I never signed any such pledge at Estes Park, Humboldt or anywhere else./ Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: John Manning Date: Wed, Jul 31 2002 7:47 am Subject: Re: Maharishi's mantras http://tinyurl.com/6q9kmd
