Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Funnily enough, Fleetwood, lemon cake with vanilla frosting and organic, mango 
ice cream (-:



On Monday, June 30, 2014 4:54 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  
Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a birthday 
*pie* - lemon meringue



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :


salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-:



On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :


Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
 

Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sounds perfect!!  

 I had a black truffle cheeseburger yesterday that was amazing - 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 Funnily enough, Fleetwood, lemon cake with vanilla frosting and organic, mango 
ice cream (-:

 


 On Monday, June 30, 2014 4:54 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 

   Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a 
birthday *pie* - lemon meringue

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-:

 


 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
 

   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  
 

 Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?




 















 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Nadi astrology actually is NOT that much different from other 
techniques.  They just ad some supplemental features or shadings.  I 
think some of this stuff develops as crutches for bad astrologers of 
which there are quite a few.  Basically all astrology does is crudely 
recognize certain patterns that occur in nature.  It should be used like 
a weather report.


On 06/30/2014 10:52 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of 
the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets 
themselves for analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a 
good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas.


How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which 
also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't 
be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the 
same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems 
are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever 
vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated 
after the events anyway.


If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was 
the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't 
get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't 
be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of 
them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell 
if any of them work at all!


Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, 
planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal 
system in vedic astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in 
the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in 
the 7th using Nadi astrology.  So, the placement of the Moon has 
improved and the readings for the individual would change as well.


So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. 
Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of 
nonsense?


Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are 
where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just 
another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a 
different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is 
the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can 
vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of 
sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore 
most likely both wrong.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the 
cake and not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to 
look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  
Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to 
each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is 
research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a 
millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply 
it to charts and see if it plays out.


On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bhairitu,


You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on 
YouTube.  However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I 
labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak 
or understand a word of Hindi.


From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person 
another dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique 
basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making 
predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's 
another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... 
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :


In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants 
but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would 
say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of 
such.  You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into 
exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed 
Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far.  As Richard 
would say, go figger.



On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... 
mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty
good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving
into exaltation too. Yay!


On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Share,

May you have abundant blessings in all of your 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, I've noticed that when they say 30% chance of rain, it almost never 
rains!



On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:59 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  
Nadi astrology actually is NOT that much different from other techniques.  They 
just ad some supplemental features or shadings.  I think some of this stuff 
develops as crutches for bad astrologers of which there are quite a few.  
Basically all astrology does is crudely recognize certain patterns that occur 
in nature.  It should be used like a weather report.

On 06/30/2014 10:52 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :


Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the 
nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for 
analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use 
especially when many planets are in dusthanas.


How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also 
claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a 
different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The 
easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no 
effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any 
claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway.


If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the 
superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different 
results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it 
interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's 
all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all!



Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can 
be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic 
astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the 
regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi 
astrology.  So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for 
the individual would change as well.


So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you 
really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense?


Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where 
they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another 
planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect 
in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them 
anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same 
claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't 
both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :


I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the cake and 
not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated 
when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  Regarding Nadi astrology 
there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth 
instead of using dashas.  Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year 
cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you 
can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out.
 

On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
Bhairitu,


You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.


From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the 
Krishnamurti Padhati system.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :


In
some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others 
a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class 
malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to wait a few 
years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted in the 8th 
and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so 
far.  As Richard would say, go figger.


On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these 
days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. 
Yay!




On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



  
Share,


May you have abundant blessings in all of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Salyavin, 

 The main purpose of jyotish is find the best path to take in life and 
understand the consequences of your actions or decisions.  Each system in 
jyotish can give a person different perspectives which can give a person a 
better idea of what action to take.
 

 The only way to appreciate these different systems are to see how each system 
can reveal certain truths about your own life.  The Parasara system gives the 
traditional interpretation of the chart.  However, the Nadi system takes into 
consideration the modern fact that the planets do not revolve around the Sun in 
a perfect circle.  These planets actually travel an elliptical path around the 
Sun.  Thus, the actual placement of the planets would vary from the traditional 
method of computation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the 
nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for 
analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use 
especially when many planets are in dusthanas.
 

 How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also 
claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a 
different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The 
easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no 
effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed 
hits are always designated after the events anyway.
 

 If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the 
superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different 
results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it 
interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's 
all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all!
 

 Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can 
be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic 
astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the 
regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. 
 So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual 
would change as well.
 

 So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you 
really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense?
 

 Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where 
they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. 
If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in 
another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them 
anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same 
claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't 
both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong.
 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the cake and 
not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated 
when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  Regarding Nadi astrology 
there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth 
instead of using dashas.  Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year 
cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can 
always apply it to charts and see if it plays out.
  
 On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Bhairitu,
 

 You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.
 

 From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the Krishnamurti 
Padhati system.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in 
others a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a 
first class malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to 
wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted 
in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my 
life so far.  As Richard would say, go figger.
 
 
 On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-07-01 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Salyavin, 

 The main purpose of jyotish is find the best path to take in life and 
understand the consequences of your actions or decisions.  Each system in 
jyotish can give a person different perspectives which can give a person a 
better idea of what action to take.
 

 The only way to appreciate these different systems are to see how each system 
can reveal certain truths about your own life.  The Parasara system gives the 
traditional interpretation of the chart.  However, the Nadi system takes into 
consideration the modern fact that the planets do not revolve around the Sun in 
a perfect circle.  These planets actually travel an elliptical path around the 
Sun.  Thus, the actual placement of the planets would vary from the traditional 
method of computation.
 

 As long as you get the point that it isn't the planets telling you anything 
useful if different systems give you different results. It's all in your mind, 
but if it makes you happy.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the 
nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for 
analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use 
especially when many planets are in dusthanas.
 

 How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also 
claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a 
different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The 
easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no 
effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed 
hits are always designated after the events anyway.
 

 If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the 
superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different 
results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it 
interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's 
all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all!
 

 Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can 
be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic 
astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the 
regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. 
 So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual 
would change as well.
 

 So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you 
really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense?
 

 Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where 
they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. 
If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in 
another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them 
anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same 
claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't 
both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong.
 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the cake and 
not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated 
when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  Regarding Nadi astrology 
there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth 
instead of using dashas.  Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year 
cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can 
always apply it to charts and see if it plays out.
  
 On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Bhairitu,
 

 You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.
 

 From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the Krishnamurti 
Padhati system.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in 
others a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a 
first class malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to 
wait a few years for Rahu and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-30 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the 
nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for 
analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use 
especially when many planets are in dusthanas. 

 Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can 
be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic 
astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the 
regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. 
 So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual 
would change as well.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the cake and 
not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated 
when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  Regarding Nadi astrology 
there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth 
instead of using dashas.  Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year 
cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can 
always apply it to charts and see if it plays out.
  
 On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Bhairitu,
 

 You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.
 

 From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the Krishnamurti 
Padhati system.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in 
others a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a 
first class malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to 
wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted 
in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my 
life so far.  As Richard would say, go figger.
 
 
 On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these 
days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay!
 
 
 

 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Share,
 

 May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. 
(Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)
 

 Regards,
 

 JR
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  








 
 







 




 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-30 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the 
nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for 
analysing the timing of events.  Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use 
especially when many planets are in dusthanas.
 

 How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also 
claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a 
different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The 
easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no 
effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed 
hits are always designated after the events anyway.
 

 If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the 
superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different 
results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it 
interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's 
all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all!
 

 Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can 
be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic 
astrology.  For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the 
regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. 
 So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual 
would change as well.
 

 So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you 
really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense?
 

 Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where 
they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. 
If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in 
another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them 
anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same 
claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't 
both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong.
 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the cake and 
not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated 
when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  Regarding Nadi astrology 
there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth 
instead of using dashas.  Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year 
cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can 
always apply it to charts and see if it plays out.
  
 On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Bhairitu,
 

 You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.
 

 From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the Krishnamurti 
Padhati system.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in 
others a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a 
first class malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to 
wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted 
in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my 
life so far.  As Richard would say, go figger.
 
 
 On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these 
days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay!
 
 
 

 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Share,
 

 May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. 
(Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)
 

 Regards,
 

 JR
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  








 
 







 




 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-30 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology.  Nakshatras are icing on the 
cake and not the cake itself.  Foolish astrologers like use them to look 
sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques.  
Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to 
each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas.  Given there is 
research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium 
there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts 
and see if it plays out.


On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bhairitu,


You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on 
YouTube.  However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I 
labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak 
or understand a word of Hindi.


From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person 
another dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique 
basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making 
predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's 
another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants 
but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would 
say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of 
such.  You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into 
exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed 
Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far.  As Richard 
would say, go figger.



On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... 
mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty
good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving
into exaltation too. Yay!


On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Share,

May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the
entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)

Regards,

JR


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@...
mailto:rick@... wrote :

Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-30 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a birthday 
*pie* - lemon meringue
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-:

 


 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
 

   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  
 

 Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?




 


 












[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, 

 May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. 
(Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)
 

 Regards,
 

 JR
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these 
days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay!



On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  
Share,

May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. 
(Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)

Regards,

JR



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :


Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but 
in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it 
is a first class malefic and is following the description of such.  
You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into 
exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed 
Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far.  As Richard would 
say, go figger.



On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good 
these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into 
exaltation too. Yay!



On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



Share,

May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the 
entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)


Regards,

JR


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?







[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  
 

 Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-:



On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :


Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
 

Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 Salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-:

 

 Oh no! I'll raise a glass in your honour tonight...
 


 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
 

   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  
 

 Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?




 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share

2014-06-29 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, 

 You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube.  
However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi.  I labored by listening 
through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi.
 

 From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another 
dimension to understand the birth chart.  The technique basically uses the 
sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing 
the tendencies of the entire kundali.  It's another version of the Krishnamurti 
Padhati system.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in 
others a first class malefic.  Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a 
first class malefic and is following the description of such.  You'll have to 
wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation.  My Rahu is exalted 
in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my 
life so far.  As Richard would say, go figger.
 
 
 On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these 
days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay!
 
 
 

 On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Share,
 

 May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. 
(Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house)
 

 Regards,
 

 JR
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
  








 
 







 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

2011-12-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. 

But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional 
punching bag this Christmas.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s
 
 
 
 Curtis,
 
 
 So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* 
 that better captures your posting voice)
 to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive 
 by, we
 were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do
 have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me
 $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, 
 Bubbles,
 and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick
 received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. 
 
 
 Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining 
 communications should be stopped, 
 
 at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is 
 this a rerun? And it's
 completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long
 as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so 
 obviously
 provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected,
 for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely 
 un-cool.
 In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot
 around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the 
 first
 to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help
 with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of
 *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to
 post out again): The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL.
 But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at
 reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving 
 your
 Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi 
 because
 he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never
 forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very 
 seriously:
 My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  
 
 
 I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your 
 ciphers, to line up single file, to
 avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like
 Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's
 shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every
 hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as
 Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes
 and sizes.   
 
 
 I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, 
 before entering into a conversation
 about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let
 me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your
 buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not 
 perfectly;
 till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue to do the same
 thing over and over and expect different results; the break through came
 a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as 
 if he
 had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette
 seemed to be saying: 
 
 
 I think it's very important to know when to stop. 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-Ifeature=related
 
 
 PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still 
 pondering that KOAN you shared with us that
 bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously 
 bullying
 MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going
 these days, your dialogues are missed.  The *nice* thing about the handle 
 *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all
 the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming,
 the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite 
 look mushy,
 your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your
 spelling mistake, and your Most disgusting... post to me will forever
 weld you to your *Bubbles*, and your behavior of choice (starts with an h and 
 ends with an y).
 
 
 PPS: Bubbles, be careful about twisting your neck into a pretzel pretending 
 you don't spend your life reading
 everything posted on FFL; the chiropractor was right, you're not exactly a 
 spring chicken. I hadn't realized how much 
 
 Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama, those Dutch people are 
 pretty tolerant, why don't you try
 telling the waitress what's upsetting you so much. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

2011-12-08 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


Bob Price:
 Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama...

Barry himself has written the most embarassing Rama 
stories. There's something funny about almost every
guru or teacher.

http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html

But, I actually liked Fred Lenz - I love almost all 
gurus. I mean if you can't laugh at yourself and your 
guru, who can you laugh at?

After Trungpa died, we had a big ceremony just before 
he was about to be cremated. All the senior students 
gathered inside the enormous, orange-pillared big
Dharmadhatu shrine hall, with its blue, red and gold 
trim.

It was standing room only with the Trungpa disciples 
sitting in rows, upon the softy pillows, in practiced 
posture, evoking the mantras and the visualizations 
just like the lama had instructed. 

There were rows and rows of solemn meditators sitting 
with eyes half closed. Everything was in acordance 
with Tibetan tradition, down to the clicking of the 
prayer beads and the empty throne where a photograph 
of the late Rinpoche had been placed.

Up on the dais sat the Vajra Regent, appointed by the 
Trungpa Rinpoche, Osel Tendzin; and the visiting high 
lamas of the Tibetan Kagya sect; the monks and the 
VIPs and the laity. I got to sit down in front because 
I, among six others, had taken the Vajrayana vows and 
had been intitiated into Shambala training by the lama 
himself.

In the back of the temple a special cadre of advanced 
students sat in a circle grinding the bones of the 
Trungpa Tulku, once the spiritual leader of the Surmang 
group of monesteries in Tibet. We recited a hundred 
thousand dharanis, performed a thousand bows in order 
to  empowered the Rinpoche's bones. 

And to what avail?

Years later, I learned that both the Trungpa and his 
Vajra Regent were gay alcoholics who had built, out of 
money donated by hapless students, a vast beaucratic 
organization in the form of a co-dependent support 
group, i.e., both the Trungpa and the Vajra Regent 
literally drank and screwed themselves to death right 
in front of the whole organization! 

And they called it Tantra, blessed by none other than 
the great Kalu, himself a Tibetan philanderer. 

Go figure.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)

2011-12-08 Thread Bob Price
Golly Curtis,



You're slipping, the same rubber arrow, two days in a row (emotional punching 
bag), what are you getting *Bubbles* for Christmas: Geraldine loves diamonds.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgHpvcg0o8



***Have to run, I have an appointment for the nails.






From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:54:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; 
the hypocrite slayer)



Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. 

But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional 
punching bag this Christmas. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s
 
 
 
 Curtis,
 
 
 So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* 
 that better captures your posting voice)
 to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive 
 by, we
 were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do
 have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me
 $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, 
 Bubbles,
 and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick
 received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. 
 
 
 Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining 
 communications should be stopped, 
 
 at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is 
 this a rerun? And it's
 completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long
 as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so 
 obviously
 provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected,
 for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely 
 un-cool.
 In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot
 around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the 
 first
 to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help
 with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of
 *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to
 post out again): The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL.
 But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at
 reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving 
 your
 Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi 
 because
 he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never
 forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very 
 seriously:
 My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  
 
 
 I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your 
 ciphers, to line up single file, to
 avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like
 Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's
 shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every
 hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as
 Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes
 and sizes.   
 
 
 I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, 
 before entering into a conversation
 about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let
 me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your
 buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not 
 perfectly;
 till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue to do the same
 thing over and over and expect different results; the break through came
 a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as 
 if he
 had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette
 seemed to be saying: 
 
 
 I think it's very important to know when to stop. 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-Ifeature=related
 
 
 PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still 
 pondering that KOAN you shared with us that
 bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously 
 bullying
 MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going
 these days, your dialogues are missed.  The *nice* thing about the handle 
 *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all
 the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming,
 the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite 
 look mushy,
 your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your
 spelling mistake, and your Most disgusting... post to me will forever
 weld you to your *Bubbles*, and your behavior

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and The Walking Blues -- Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-06 Thread Buck
Tart, Curtis wears white when he sings bhajans for the Rajas.  He's very 
politic I have heard.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
 
  -
 
 
   Curtis does a wonderful version of Walkin' Blues (well, I am sure many
 many versions, but I heard the one from his CD or site.) Maybe as good,
 though very different style, to Paul Butterfield, which I am partial to
 -- probably having to do with the times, those days, of my first darshan
 with that version (new dimensions opened up).
 But you be the judge (non judgmentally, ha).
 Erichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPXoLjQX-Y
 Roberthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sml8W5SAwo
 
 Paulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8TNYEJmnF4http://www.youtube.com/wat\
 ch?v=VoNJysPjjtchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpz-1qpNBwfeature=fvst
 Bonniehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z65oAMwWq54
 Susanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I1AH5Bshukfeature=related
 Deadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPYml9xO-E
 Quicksilverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBBtIPvU3t0
 
 And for the  grand finale, our own Headliner:  Curtis Blues!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-arnwUV2VI
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-arnwUV2VI
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis - a reply sent to you.

2011-06-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the heads up.. Very interesting stuff and I will respond.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 I sent an email reply to your return address as suggested.
 However, since you don't check it much, I'm noting it here
 just to let you know.
 
 Nothing too special, just some follow-up.
 
 emptybill





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, did you make it to this festival in DC?

2011-06-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Damn I missed it!  I was performing at a local blues festival yesterday. If I 
didn't have a gig I would have considered going.  I am always up for a 
challenge to my pallet and my straightness and this seems to combine both in 
one stroke. (Unfortunate term but unavoidable I am afraid!) 

The local Fox station shot me for the festival promo a few days ago.  If you 
click under the video on the second video link with my picture you can see my 
few minutes of local fame play out:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/mornings/tinner-hill-blues-festival-060911




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Sounds like it was a ball. Or several.
 
 http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/06/10/testicle-festival-2011_n_875049.html
 
 :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, did you make it to this festival in DC?

2011-06-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Damn I missed it!  I was performing at a local blues festival 
 yesterday. If I didn't have a gig I would have considered going.  
 I am always up for a challenge to my pallet and my straightness 
 and this seems to combine both in one stroke. (Unfortunate term 
 but unavoidable I am afraid!) 
 
 The local Fox station shot me for the festival promo a few days 
 ago.  If you click under the video on the second video link with 
 my picture you can see my few minutes of local fame play out:
 
 http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/mornings/tinner-hill-blues-festival-060911

Cool. Always good to see da man playin' da blues.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Sounds like it was a ball. Or several.
  
  http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/06/10/testicle-festival-2011_n_875049.html
  
  :-)
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, this sounds a lot like you... :)

2010-04-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... 

Thanks for thinking of me Sal and if it wasn't for the being Satan thing I 
would jump on it!



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis has some tough competition

2010-02-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 One man band (cigo man band)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2xOw-VXe_g


Yeah, guys like this do a lot for the field's image problem!  Very funny.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN

2009-10-03 Thread Duveyoung

Yay Curtis!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire
 f=videosearch





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN

2009-10-03 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire
 f=videosearch



Shining like a National Guitar -- Graceland, by Paul Simon

From the video, it appears that at least two of Curtis' instruments are 
National Guitars, although there wasn't a good enough shot to see the top of 
the guitar to see the name of the manufacturer.

Am I right, Rick?

I also noted the overflowing busking basket of bills. Good for him.  I wish him 
all the success in the world.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN

2009-10-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 1:06 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN
 
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote:


http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire
 f=videosearch


Shining like a National Guitar -- Graceland, by Paul Simon

From the video, it appears that at least two of Curtis' instruments are
National Guitars, although there wasn't a good enough shot to see the top of
the guitar to see the name of the manufacturer.

Am I right, Rick?
 
I don't know. Don't know much about guitars.
 
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...

2009-06-10 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain
and Curtis
 

 Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon,
FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding.
Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say
you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of
Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll
say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchy...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain
and Curtis
 

 Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon,
FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding.
Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say
you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of
Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll
say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother.


And I'll say he got his ass kicked by a Shotokan master.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...

2009-06-10 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis
 
 
 Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife 
 will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will 
 say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand 
 in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say 
 you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and 
 will write home soon. Peace Brother.

I fucking miss 'im thass fer shur.

I had the premonition when he left for Italy -- how ya gunna keep him down on 
the FFL farm after he's seen that, amazing, he has two more hours in his day in 
which he doesn't have to spar with someone -- fucking heaven!

You go boy -- soar into the light and forget the flickers of shadow here.  

Wingless, yet do we imagine your heights.

Edg




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...

2009-06-09 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:


 [snip]

 
  Happy Birthday Curtisdeltablues.
 
  Even though he is passed away, we can still celebrate his birthday !
 
  OffWorld
 


 Yes, we can.

 But I am sorry to hear that he has died.

 Wonderful guy.

 How did it happen?


He just stopped posting. And that was end of it.

OffWorld




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...

2009-06-09 Thread Rick Archer
The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis


[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...

2009-06-09 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis


Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife will 
become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will say he 
spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand in the 
face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say you mooned 
him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and will write 
home soon. Peace Brother.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with 
 all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all 
 here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as 
 to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in 
 something to balance the scales.
 
 Edg

HeHe, you are probably right ! :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
  Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite 
  spiritual in a meditative way.
  
  Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can 
  have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience.
  
  
  For instance, the power of music:
  
  http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2
 
 
 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo.   
 Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype?
 
 Edg


Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest 
spiritual thing going in FF.  Has been for a long time.  Of course, happens 
under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small.  Like so much of all 
the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating 
community now.  Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place.  Is part 
of the spiritual practice community.

In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards 
opening people's inner experience.  Is a real deal.  

She is more humble and not really a cult-builder.  Has her experience and does 
her work.  But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual 
practice things  life.  

Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like 
this living here.  She is masterful.  Has helped a lot of even the top TM 
people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems.   Also helpful 
to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off.  Is quite 
experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way.  Amazing 
musician talent too.

That's the review from the street,

-Doug in FF




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread Duveyoung
Now, ya see? -- Doug, what with your recent flood of posts that seem to be from 
a true believer, and with your being in everyone's face about are you a 
meditator, your below review of Janet Sussman seems so extra sweet that I'm 
thinkin' you're pulling my leg.

I finally found a sample of her piano playing, and frankly, I can play like 
that all day long while answering Cash Cab questions. That aside, note that I 
do understand that being in the presence of the artist is a whole 'nother deal, 
and that, given my general state of consciousness, it wouldn't be a surprise 
that I was unable to appreciate an ethereal artist.

So, just to push you a bit further, er, would you call yourself a Sussman true 
believer?

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
   Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite 
   spiritual in a meditative way.
   
   Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can 
   have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience.
   
   
   For instance, the power of music:
   
   http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2
  
  
  Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo.   
  Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype?
  
  Edg
 
 
 Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest 
 spiritual thing going in FF.  Has been for a long time.  Of course, happens 
 under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small.  Like so much of 
 all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating 
 community now.  Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place.  Is part 
 of the spiritual practice community.
 
 In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards 
 opening people's inner experience.  Is a real deal.  
 
 She is more humble and not really a cult-builder.  Has her experience and 
 does her work.  But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their 
 spiritual practice things  life.  
 
 Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints 
 like this living here.  She is masterful.  Has helped a lot of even the top 
 TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems.   Also 
 helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off.  Is quite 
 experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way.  Amazing 
 musician talent too.
 
 That's the review from the street,
 
 -Doug in FF





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
 Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses
 affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj:  a chronic and usually
 incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of
 people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis
 Maximus.  This condition usually
 manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew  
 forth
 from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact
 that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with
 regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer
 is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own
 nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original
 point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly.
 
 There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there
 is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping
 pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending
 on your POV) who might actually attempt to
 make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply
 yawning and pressing the delete button.
 
 Sal

Is that so? 

Edg




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:47 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
 
Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest
spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens
under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of
all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating
community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part
of the spiritual practice community.
When and where is that?
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread enlightened_dawn11
quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal 
diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing 
for what it is.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses
  affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj:  a chronic and usually
  incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of
  people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis
  Maximus.  This condition usually
  manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew  
  forth
  from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact
  that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with
  regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer
  is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own
  nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original
  point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly.
  
  There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there
  is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping
  pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending
  on your POV) who might actually attempt to
  make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply
  yawning and pressing the delete button.
  
  Sal
 
 Is that so? 
 
 Edg





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-25 Thread Duveyoung
In all fairness, in a moment of astoundingly rare humility, let me admit that 
my power of music query was, even for me, fluffy, scattered, ambling and all 
around Edg lite.  So much so, that even Vaj had to complain.

That said, what the hey, eh?  If I blog here, if I overly indulge in promoting 
Trikkes, if I snort about the imagined-up look in some expat's eye, really, 
what the hey -- where's the harm?  

Here's my prevailing theory about why, say, Sal is so eager to be a critic 
about my posts: she knows that even thousands of years from now, I'll be 
recognized as one of the wisest of posters ever in existence, and she figure's 
she'll at least get some footnote in history as one of the trolls who attach 
themselves to Edg's greatest by any means.  Ahh, that was fun just typing it!

As for anyone seeming sexy to me, geeze, I don't even pick up the swimsuit 
edition of Sports Illustrated at the newstand and fan it for a quickie 
titter-giggle.  I don't know how it happened, but I turned into an old man 
somewhere along the line, such that, while a hawt bod can get me to pause when 
viewing a bevy, the second thought never comes now.  The parts of me that once 
invested in such fantasies have discovered that investment in such 
entertainments always leads to a final reality check that poofs the thought 
balloon above my cartoon head.  

Nope, me needs a real relationship if I'm going to see someone as sexy.  It's 
the same deal with being a side-walk artist with one's wares hung on a fence 
for passers-by -- the viewers that pause and peer closely, those are the ones 
to whom the artist introduces him/herself.  Just so, who wants a stranger 
sucking on your dick when you can have someone who really really really knows 
all about your darkside and yet still wants physical intimacy?  No competition 
at all, see?

So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with 
all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here 
that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to 
create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in 
something to balance the scales.

Edg




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote:

 quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his 
 verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior 
 writing for what it is.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
   Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses
   affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj:  a chronic and usually
   incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of
   people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis
   Maximus.  This condition usually
   manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew  
   forth
   from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact
   that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with
   regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer
   is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own
   nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original
   point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly.
   
   There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there
   is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping
   pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending
   on your POV) who might actually attempt to
   make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply
   yawning and pressing the delete button.
   
   Sal
  
  Is that so? 
  
  Edg
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-24 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite 
 spiritual in a meditative way.
 
 Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can 
 have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience.
 
 
 For instance, the power of music:
 
 http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2


Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo.  I tried to get one 
of her songs to play, but my computer started choking on the process, and after 
about ten minutes of futzing around, I gave up getting Rhapsody to run 
correctly on my machine.  I tried google and still couldn't find any online 
samples of her stuff.  I cannot imagine that her singing/playing has any 
instantly magical dynamics that are self-evidently validating her dogmaso 
many singers in history and not one yet has grabbed my psyche in any 
therapeutically obvious way, so what are the chances that she has mojo?

Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype?

Edg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-23 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 Hopefully you're lurking.
 
 There's a mystery about music that perhaps you've considered 
 far more deeply than I have; it's that music is so 
 unfailingly meaningful yet has such severe limitations 
 on where its buzz-yer-brain qualities are useful for 
 impacting reality.
 
 Play even one measure of ANY piece of music and have 
 ANYONE listen to it, and that person will have a point 
 of view about the music's meaning to him/her.  The music 
 will be easily characterized by any listener in a fashion 
 that is consistent within for them -- but not necessarily 
 mono-meaningfully consistent socially speaking.  
 
 Even a young child can tell you if a few notes are happy or 
 sad, or whatever, and their inner musical-Rosetta-Stone will 
 be remarkably consistent in labeling other musical passages.  
 Whether it is merely the beat or the voices/instruments used 
 or whatever, it seems that each piece of music is utterly 
 unique and unwaveringly precise in its presentation of message 
 to listeners, yet everyone understands any music the very 
 first time it is played.  Not that any two listeners will 
 agree on what words best describe a piece of music, but that 
 each person will have some sort of inner process that seems 
 to be rule driven and idiosyncratic.
 
 Given the absolutism of music on a personal level -- meaning: 
 the same music will produce the same brain response for at 
 least a few repetitions before jaded becomes an eroding 
 dynamic -- I'm mystified that music has not been very potent 
 as a psychologically therapeutic tool.  It's the old music 
 soothes the savage breast concept. Why can't music be used 
 to impact psychology very strongly when it seems to have 
 such power to symbolize -- nay, even embody and be -- emotions?
 
 Music is so emotional that I find it hard to believe that 
 emotions in general are not perceived as musical.  If I'm 
 feeling an emotion, say, love, it seems like music is playing 
 in that my mind has a soundtrack that harmonizes with 
 conceptual content (lyrics?) Yet, it is rare to have folks 
 describe their feelings with musical terminology, e.g. 
 I'm feeling sotto voce stacatto love.  It might be a cool 
 thingie, eh?
 
 My main question is: we know that we can get a crowd all 
 tapping their feet and seemingly having the same emotions 
 when listening to a piece, but we also know that the priest 
 along with the serial killer in the crowd -- though sharing 
 a musically triggered mood -- do not come away from the 
 listening experience with any measurable change in their personalities -- so, 
 WHY NOT?  How can music have such power 
 to trigger one's inner state, but be so seemingly impotent 
 when it comes to having a measurable impact. I don't see any 
 school of psychology doing anything like, say, the torture 
 technique in A Clockwork Orange by pouring music and imagery 
 into a brain and having that impact personality.  I see no 
 evidence of music soothing any breasts at all except while 
 the music is being actually played.
 
 To me it is astounding that someone can listen to a full
 orchestration of a symphony by Mozart and not be driven sane.  
 Where's the beef, ya know?  Why doesn't music stick?
 
 My working theory is that music, like ordinary life experiences, 
 can have a power to gradually nudge a personality, but that it 
 would take a hell of a lot to get measurable results.  Maybe 
 if a person tried to mindfully listen to Mozart in a nuanced 
 fashion like initiators are trained to be mindfully listening 
 to the puja as they sing it, then Mozart could be a great 
 healer.  Don't know -- and so I ask your opinion.
 
 Edg
 
in that music that they interpret as, say, happy, will be found

The innate ability to appreciate music...to appreciate harmony or disharmony...
The power of sound, in and of itself...the power of the sound quality of the 
mantras.
The way emotion gets involved with sound...

The way the art of music reflects the culture...
'The music of the Sixties'.
A feeling for a second: Love is all you need.

The music of the lately...
'Gansta Rap' 'Heavy Metal'...
'Grunge Punk' Yucky Music of no harmony...

Reflects pants down around the knees...
Prison population, feelings of anger and hopelessness...
Confusion, chaos, meaninglessness
Like everything is a joke man, just ask Jon Stewart of the C.Report...
Everything is just a video game man!
Nothing is real...it's all electronic images on a screeen...
'Don't ask, don't tell, man...
Shut up, and listen to the rap, man...

You can listen to Mozart all you want, 
But when they tell you to eat cake, when you have no bread...
Things start getting out of hand...
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?

2009-05-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite 
spiritual in a meditative way.

Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have 
on the subtle systems of spiritual experience.


For instance, the power of music:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote:
  I have a vague memory of him accusing that 
  person of being someone else?  I haven't 
  followed that closely enough to comment...
 
Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea.

Judy wrote:
 That's the double standard I was talking about.

The double standard of Vaj, Barry, and Curtis?

During TM practice he displayed exceptionally high 
ampli-tude alpha spindles across all EEG channels 
and periods of respiratory suspension (Kesterson, 
1985).

Source:

Psychological Content of Consciousness During 
Sleep in a TM Practitioner:
Jayne Gackenbach and William Moorecraft
http://tinyurl.com/6mtkjn

'Conscious Mind, Sleeping Brain'
by J. Gackenbach
Springer, 1988
http://tinyurl.com/59dnne

Kesterson and Clinch report that the reduction 
in respiration during the breath slowing is not 
due to a reduction in metabolic rate, as was 
previously thought, 2 but rather due to a 
significant drop in the respiratory exchange 
ratio (the ratio of the amount of carbon 
dioxide produced by the body to the amount of 
oxygen consumed).

Read more:

'The Issue: Isn't transcendental consciousness 
just a metaphysical concept?'
http://tinyurl.com/6pl4xv

'The Physical and Psychological Effects of Meditation'
http://tinyurl.com/5ndtzv



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread Vaj


On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Curtis wrote:

I have a vague memory of him accusing that
person of being someone else?  I haven't
followed that closely enough to comment...


Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea.



Actually he did.

And as predicted by Ruth and me: the TMO was cherry-picking sleep  
witnessers and got a sleep apnea patient. In his case probably  
central sleep apnea, which fits his subjective description to a tee.  
Actual true sleep witnessing is quite pleasurable, the opposite of  
his experience! Go figure.


Surprise, surprise: more phony TM research.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
 My point is that you let all kinds of crap, flat-out
 lying and gross unfairness, go by with Barry and Vaj
 because, as you told me recently, you have offlist
 contact with them and therefore know them better as
 people.
 
 But I don't lie, and I do my best not to be unfair,
 and you jump on me when your idea of fairness doesn't
 happen to quite coincide with mine.
 
 That's the double standard I was talking about.

I gave what you wrote some thought Judy.  I was thinking about how I
relate to different people here and why I would challenge you on what
I perceive to be a falsehood, but I don't approach some other writers
here with that filter on.

Barry and Vaj and many other people here never make personal comments
about me in that personal evaluation style that characterizes so many
of your posts. For example in this exchange I basically said you are
lying and you are commenting on me having a double standard because I
don't write this way to some others.  We are communicating in the same
personally accusing style.  I would not call Barry and Vaj on
something like this because they don't communicate with me that way
ever.  I read your posts with this filter on, sort of a petty gotcha
game.  There are only a few other writers who I communicate in such a
petty way.  I'm not blaming you for how I am acting, I am trying to
understand why I do it, and I think this is it.  I'm ready to own my
part of what is going on.

Even though I have respectful interesting discussions with you here, I
am never sure that your next response wont be a personal comment on my
character or just some negitive spin on who I am or how I present
myself here.  So you have not established personal trust in the way
some others have.  Barry and Vaj know that even when I disagree with
them, I will always make sure they understand that it is in the
context of liking them, so it stays very friendly.  Neither of them
have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to each other within a
bubble of good will and I trust it. 

As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here I can
pretty much group them that way.  Those who have taken a personal shot
in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who have not.  And for anyone
who has, I tend to respond to what they write in a petty way as in
gotcha.  And the cycle goes on and on.  With you we have plenty of
good exchanges that don't end this way, but when you break the
ceasefire, I feel a bit betrayed.  Perhaps you do too when I make such
a comment on you.  But I am always aware that the next post may be an
unflattering characterization of me and a dismissal of me personally.

I'm sure there are other useful distinctions to make.  And none of
this is about you changing.  It is about the choices I am making with
how I communicate with everyone here and how I want that to look for
this New Year.  



 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj
   making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth.
  
  I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being
  someone else?  I haven't followed that closely enough to
  comment.
 
 I've made at least a half-dozen posts on that, two of
 them containing quotes from the contradictory posts.
 How could you have missed all of them?
 
 No, it has nothing to do with accusing coldbluice of
 being someone else. It has to do with Vaj having
 blatantly misrepresented what coldbluice had reported
 of his experiences, telling an entirely different
 story, as if from what coldbluice had said, when in
 fact he had said something virtually the opposite.
 
   But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to
   describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and
   warrants a long scolding from you.
  
  That got my attention because I read almost all your
  posts not directed to Barry.
 
 Except those directed at Vaj, apparently.
 
   I thought that you were being unfair by taunting
  John, and then when he responded in defense, you
  claimed he STARTED it.
 
 Well, we never finished that discussion. You didn't
 respond to my last post in it. I think you way 
 exaggerated my sin in that instance.
 
 My point is that you let all kinds of crap, flat-out
 lying and gross unfairness, go by with Barry and Vaj
 because, as you told me recently, you have offlist
 contact with them and therefore know them better as
 people.
 
 But I don't lie, and I do my best not to be unfair,
 and you jump on me when your idea of fairness doesn't
 happen to quite coincide with mine.
 
 That's the double standard I was talking about.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
 
 On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
snip
  Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea.
 
 Actually he did.

Not according to Steve Perino (aka coldbluice).

In April, Vaj asked him if he had ever been
diagnosed with sleep apnea. Here's what he said:

About 1-1/2 yrs ago by a anathesiologist and a ER
nurse said i had 'sleep apnea'..when i went in the
hospital for a routine minor surgery..The doctors
could not figure out why i did not breath when i
was sleeping.

It's pretty clear from the way he phrases this
that he thought the diagnosis was absurd. But
Vaj wants us to believe otherwise:

 And as predicted by Ruth and me: the TMO was cherry-
 picking sleep witnessers and got a sleep apnea
 patient. In his case probably central sleep apnea,
 which fits his subjective description to a tee.

But in the very same post, just before he responds
to Vaj's question about sleep apnea, SP says:

-
The study i was involved in was in regards to
witnessing during sleep..i told the
researchers that i could from deep sleep control
autonomic funtions.

Dr. Skip Alexander, PhD miu..first interviewed
me for that study-(witnessing deep sleep)..which
i proved conclusively that i was being honest.
Later (in Summer or 1988) i advised Dr. Skip
Alexander, PhD miunot use any of my research for
tmo federally funded grants.

The scientifically validated control of autonomic
functions that i demonstrated i.e.-- g.s.r/core
body temp.  heart rate  breath suspension were
done from deep sleep.

The study's original protocal-,i was to use a pre-
determined signal(as series of rapid eye
movements) to indicate to the researchers when i
as witnessing deep sleep.

Then i suggested that i would signal from
'witnessing sleep that i was to begin controlled
periods of breath suspension  lowered core body
temp  heart rate.

Later the study evolved into something completely
different..Dr. Steven La Berge, PhD of Stanford
Univ. (now the with Lucidity Instiute) wanted me to
do all sorts of things that the tmo did NOT
APPROVE of.. Interestingly, Dr La Berge said at
that time that of the thousands of magnetic sleep
records he examined mine was the MOST UNIQUE!!
-

As far as SP is concerned, whether it's true or
not, he was not only intentionally controlling his
breathing while in deep sleep, but was signaling
with eye movements that he was about to suspend
his breathing.

And this is the description that Vaj thinks fits
central sleep apnea to a tee??

In his recent post, Vaj goes even further:

From our conversations, it wasn't he who was
so interested in the breath suspension, other
than to get some understanding of what was going
on. He was lead to believe it was related to his
state of consciousness. Sadly, that was not the
case--he was mislead. It turned out he wasn't in
some 'higher' state of consciousness, but one
suffering from a severe form of sleep apnea. Nor
was he someone who was yogically conscious during
deep sleep.

Again, this is completely contrary to what SP told
Vaj in their April conversation.

The point here isn't whether the TMO boggled or
fudged the research, nor is it whether SP actually
had sleep apnea.

It's that Vaj has attributed to SP things he never
said, when SP in fact (and on the record) said *to
the contrary*.

Maybe SP did have sleep apnea. But Vaj doesn't
*know* that, he's just guessing, despite claiming
a number of times that he did as if it were a
matter of established fact.

And again, SP himself clearly thinks otherwise. He
believes he was able to control his autonomic
functions, including by suspending his breathing,
in a deep sleep state, and believes he proved it
scientifically.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here 
 I can pretty much group them that way.  Those who have taken 
 a personal shot in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who 
 have not.  

What I have noticed, Curtis (and making this a 
generic rap, not about anyone in particular), is 
that the personal shots tend to happen immediately 
after you have presented an idea that causes the 
personal shotters some cognitive dissonance 
because it conflicts with and challenges an idea 
that they hold to be true.

I think I know you well enough to know that most of
the time when you present such ideas, to you they
are Just Ideas. They're an interesting new way of
approaching a subject and looking at it. 

But it's as if a few people here react to them as if
the idea itself *caused them pain*. And in a sense it
did. Cognitive dissonance -- encountering an idea 
that, if true, renders one of your own ideas false
or at the very least not as true -- is perceived by 
some AS pain. 

I think the issue is that we don't perceive these 
ideas that way. To us they're Just Ideas. And after
all this time thinking about and analyzing our exper-
iences with meditation and various follies along the
spiritual path or just life path, the out of the box
ideas are Just Another Way Of Looking At Things, no
biggie.

When we think about one of these ideas -- say the 
implicit wrongness of the caste system, or the unden-
iable sexism of a tradition that wouldn't even allow 
women to be near it -- we DON'T tend to feel pain. No 
cognitive dissonance arises at all because we are years 
or decades away from justifying the caste system just 
because Maharishi did, or ignoring the sexism of the 
Shankaracharya tradition because we still identify 
with it and consider ourselves part of it.

But others don't have that distance on things, and when
they encounter ideas that to us are Just Ideas, they
perceive them as ATTACKS, because what they feel inside
when they hear these ideas is pain. We didn't cause the
pain; all we did is present an idea. But to them the
idea ITSELF causes pain, because it causes cognitive
dissonance. So in their mindes we are very definitely 
the cause of their pain, because we said the horrible, 
offensive, unforgivable thing that they consider heresy.

If our idea that the caste system is wrong has merit,
then Maharishi's defense of it his entire life may have
less merit, or be actually w...w...w...wrong.

If our idea that Guru Dev and other teachers within the
Shankaracharya tradition just might have been being less
than honest about their desire for the liberation of 
their fellow man by restricting their teachings to...uh...
their fellow MAN, with no women allowed, then maybe
they weren't the perfect saints they've been portrayed
to be.

I suspect that contemplating either of these ideas doesn't
raise a single hair on your neck or cause you the least
amount of pain. They certainly don't cause me any dis-
comfort in the least. 

But these same ideas cause some people so MUCH pain that
their first impulse -- an impulse that they seemingly
cannot control -- is to lash out and aim a well-placed
personal shot across your bow.

On the whole, I think you've dealt with such cheap shots
better than I have, and with consistent grace and humor.
A great deal more grace and humor than the ones *taking*
the cheap shots have, that's fer damned sure.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
snip
For example in this exchange I basically said you are
 lying and you are commenting on me having a double
 standard because I don't write this way to some
 others.  We are communicating in the same personally
 accusing style.  I would not call Barry and Vaj on
 something like this because they don't communicate
 with me that way ever.  I read your posts with this
 filter on, sort of a petty gotcha game.  There are
 only a few other writers who I communicate in such a
 petty way.  I'm not blaming you for how I am acting,
 I am trying to understand why I do it, and I think
 this is it.  I'm ready to own my part of what is
 going on.

I appreciate your taking the time to ponder this
and to take responsibility for it, but from my
perspective, I don't think you're owning all of
your part in it yet. Several points:

As far as I'm concerned, a person who aims to be
fair gets only partial credit if they respond to
unfairness only when it's directed at them.

But you're not even consistent along that line.
It's one thing for you to retaliate in kind in a
discussion you're having with me. (I very rarely 
give you a basis for retaliating except when
we're in the middle of a discussion and I think
you aren't playing fair with me.)

In this case, though--and in several others
recently--you jumped on me because you thought I
was being unfair *to others*.

Further, I object to your suggestion of moral
equivalency. What Vaj and, especially, Barry say
in their attacks on me and others is far, far
worse than anything I've ever said to them or to
anybody else, including to you.

I guess I don't understand how you can be so
sanguine and jolly about your friendship wih Barry
and Vaj when they're both so vicious and dishonest.
How can you form a genuine friendship with people
like that, even if they restrain themselves when
they're interacting with you? To me, that seems
grossly hypocritical.

snip
Neither of them
 have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to
 each other within a bubble of good will and I 
 trust it.

I'm not sure Barry's recent criticism of you for
your purportedly hewing to the TM mindset in the
discussion of reincarnation was all that full of
good will, and it seemed awfully personal to me. I
thought it was grossly unfair and off target when
I read it, and I'd have pointed that out if you
hadn't done so yourself.

snip
 I'm sure there are other useful distinctions to make.
 And none of this is about you changing.  It is about
 the choices I am making with how I communicate with
 everyone here and how I want that to look for this
 New Year.

I respect that.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here 
  I can pretty much group them that way.  Those who have taken 
  a personal shot in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who 
  have not.  
 
 What I have noticed, Curtis (and making this a 
 generic rap, not about anyone in particular), is 
 that the personal shots tend to happen immediately 
 after you have presented an idea that causes the 
 personal shotters some cognitive dissonance 
 because it conflicts with and challenges an idea 
 that they hold to be true.

You mean, like this?

Curtis, do you realize how much of the 'TM
mindset' underlies what you are saying above?

Both you and Stu are going on and on about
the 'burden of proof.' That might be relevant
to New Jim, who is making some silly claims
about 'proof' of reincarnation, but you are
extending it to anyone who happens to quietly
believe in reincarnation and doesn't really
give a rat's ass what you believe.

We don't owe you 'proof.' We don't owe you
jack shit.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread Vaj


On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:28 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:


An anesthesiologist told him of the sleep apnea, yes?  (If you don't
breathe for 10 seconds when sleeping, that is apnea.) I haven't read
much of what coldblueice has written, so I don't know all of what he
has described.  In any event, physical causes for his experiences
cannot be ruled out, including the witnessing experiences.  Sleep
apnea effects brain waves as well as having other physical effects, so
he shouldn't be a TM research subject. If I were him, I would have a
sleep study.


He already has.

As I said before, you would (of course) have to rule out any  
incidence of obstructive or central sleep apnea (or other possible  
etiologies) before making any further observations and conclusion.  
They'd have to clear certain Somnological criteria. This is  
especially the case when people are self-selecting in a anyone who  
witnesses during sleep, please contact us -type fashion.


The experiential difference between yoganidra--yogic sleep--and the  
I'm almost awake, I'm almost asleep limbo quality of sleep in sleep  
apnea is easy to differentiate. In one it's like torture, in the  
other you rest in the bliss-sheath and abide over a calm void. In one  
you wake up groggy or with a headache, in the other you're more  
energized than the deepest of regular sleep.


There are other anecdotal reports of TM night technique  
practitioners who also experienced the results of that practice as a  
sleep disturbance.




I have been trying to track down some TM research subjects.  If anyone
knows of any, email me at ruthsimplic...@yahoo.com.  I did talk to one
person who was asked a bunch of questions and then rejected as a
subject.  Still trying to pin that one down. Anyone know an email for
coldblueice?

I have no evil plan, I am just searching for facts.



Keep in mind, it appears a lot of the people snagged for TM  
research are Purusha, MD and or hard-core TM/TMSP TB's. They will  
likely perceive ANYONE outside the TMO questioning them as suspect or  
tainted. Some of the most interesting TM studies were done on people  
who were outside the mainstream TB practitioners (e.g. people in  
Seattle who went to a TM center there).


Good luck!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 Keep in mind, it appears a lot of the people snagged for TM  
 research are Purusha, MD and or hard-core TM/TMSP TB's. They will  
 likely perceive ANYONE outside the TMO questioning them as suspect or  
 tainted. Some of the most interesting TM studies were done on people  
 who were outside the mainstream TB practitioners (e.g. people in  
 Seattle who went to a TM center there).
 
 Good luck!


Yeah, I know.  I know of two Parusha guys who have  participated in
several studies but they won't talk to me. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip
 
 I appreciate your taking the time to ponder this
 and to take responsibility for it, but from my
 perspective, I don't think you're owning all of
 your part in it yet. Several points:
 
 As far as I'm concerned, a person who aims to be
 fair gets only partial credit if they respond to
 unfairness only when it's directed at them.

This sounds like way too much of a judgmental place for me to live in.
 This place is not my life.  I'm not interested in taking most of the
word wars that go in here that seriously.  This is a big difference
between us.  You see that kind of correction as having a real value
outside yourself. For me when I run the tisk tisk routine, it is for
my own enjoyment and self-righteousness buzz.  I'm real clear that I
am not doing any real good. But I have noted that you consider the
fact that I have different communication relationships here a lack of
fairness.  I don't see it that way.

 
 But you're not even consistent along that line.
 It's one thing for you to retaliate in kind in a
 discussion you're having with me. (I very rarely 
 give you a basis for retaliating except when
 we're in the middle of a discussion and I think
 you aren't playing fair with me.)

Consistency in how I interact here is probably not a goal for me.  I
enjoy reacting spontaneously as a sort of a Rorschach test for myself
at any given time to a specific poster.  Sometimes things bug me,
sometimes I shrug them off.  That seems normal.

 
 In this case, though--and in several others
 recently--you jumped on me because you thought I
 was being unfair *to others*.

Yeah,me being a busybody.  I'm reassessing this behavior.  

 
 Further, I object to your suggestion of moral
 equivalency. What Vaj and, especially, Barry say
 in their attacks on me and others is far, far
 worse than anything I've ever said to them or to
 anybody else, including to you.

The intention to hurt feelings is the same in my opinion.  That is the
quality that matters to me.  You are more interested in the content. 
You have different styles of expressing your contempt for each other
but the intention is the same. I understand that you believe that what
they say is worse in some way that you can rate.  From outside it
isn't as obvious or maybe I haven't cared enough to judge it that way.
 There is a higher level of drama going on than I can relate to.  I
can get off on hating here and am not above it.  But I pick those
battles pretty carefully because I get an unpleasant blowback that I
don't dig.

 
 I guess I don't understand how you can be so
 sanguine and jolly about your friendship wih Barry
 and Vaj when they're both so vicious and dishonest.

First of all I try to avoid posts that have that vibe from anyone here
when it isn't directed towards me.  That is called minding my own
business.  I am trying to do that more and include you in that rather
than mind their business more.  I judge people by how they treat me. 
This framework is a very limited slice of their lives and I know that.
 Most people are posting with a persona that they would not have in
their real lives.  So the nature of online communication is to amplify
negitive traits.  I accept that with the medium.  I am trying to get
less judgmental, not more.  I am really only interested in how a
person interacts with me for good reason.  I work at bringing my
communication with each poster to a level I can enjoy.  That is my
personal agenda here.

Taking your point of view on them serves no purpose for me.  And
frankly many times I disagree with how you are characterizing them in
the worst possible light.  I think you have a little self-fulfilling
prophesy going on with them.  Your contempt is so unrelenting it
dehumanizes them, and vice versa.  So neither side is encouraged to
show up in a sensitive, appreciative way.  I've been in that place so
I know how it feels.  

 How can you form a genuine friendship with people
 like that, even if they restrain themselves when
 they're interacting with you? To me, that seems
 grossly hypocritical.

Again your judgmentalness is ratcheted up to high for me.  This is not
a friendship in the world, these are all online communications within
a very limited scope. But a guy like Barry who has taken the time to
listen to my music and communicate with me about it and has shared
more about his life onffline in emails with me, has earned more
closeness than someone who has not.  So my perspective on him is not
influenced by how you two relate.

I know you feel victimized by him but I have trouble seeing it that
way.  You have created the relationship with him that you want,and so
have I.  They are not connected.  Judging me as a hypocrite because I
am focusing on a different and vastly more pleasant side of him seems
like a very sour philosophy Judy.  It sounds like a POV that would
make you pissed off a lot at people.  I want no part of that.

 
 snip
 Neither of them
  have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to
  each other 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

  For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do
  you think Barry really believes this? If so,
  what might his basis be for believing it?
 
 If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100
 posts to you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 
 99.

So it's perfectly OK with you if Barry lies about
me (and raunchy) because he's just fucking with
us; and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj
making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth.

But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to
describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and
warrants a long scolding from you.

Curtis, I think you really believe you try to be
fair, but you're too often blind to your own
double standards.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do
   you think Barry really believes this? If so,
   what might his basis be for believing it?
  
  If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100
  posts to you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 
  99.
 
 So it's perfectly OK with you if Barry lies about
 me (and raunchy) because he's just fucking with
 us;

First of all you are assuming I read beyond the first shot fired
between you guys, I rarely do. It is not my battle, I enjoy each of
you for different reasons and don't enjoy the ill will between you. 
But my point was that you are taking the content seriously when in
fact I believe it is mostly a formulaic attack designed to get you to
fire back.  You want me to take the content seriously and I can't do that.

Plus you are assuming that each of us has a some kind of police role
here.  You guys seem to be doing a good enough job on your own of
defending yourselves.  I can't get into the oneupsmanship aspect of
that particular fight, although I am not immune to its charms in some
other exchanges..  

 and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj
 making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth.

I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being someone
else?  I haven't followed that closely enough to comment.

 
 But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to
 describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and
 warrants a long scolding from you.

That got my attention because I read almost all your posts not
directed to Barry.  I thought that you were being unfair by taunting
John, and then when he responded in defense, you claimed he STARTED
it.  I made my point.  It was not about you taking the shot is was how
you tried to play it off as his fault that I didn't buy.  It was my
unsolicited busybody opinion and I gave you a chance to give your
side, which you did.  

 
 Curtis, I think you really believe you try to be
 fair, but you're too often blind to your own
 double standards.

I find that easy to believe.  This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not
above anything that goes on here.  But by your standard of fairness
you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive
personally against me and other posters. But we each pick our battles
here don't we?  There is a limit to how much busy body activities I
can tolerate in myself.

I'm not trying to post out at the beginning of the week so I'm not
going to speak up in situations that I don't care about.  So in that
little skirmish, I had some history of feeling that Nabby is a
name-caller and a mean-spirited personal attacker. So when I saw him
pulling that on Paul I spoke up.  Likewise you have a history with
Paul and corrected me in my attempt to saint him.  All valid choices
IMO.  I enjoyed your points and agreed with some of them that
corrected my POV.  That process is what makes this place fun for me.  

You are one of my most reliable responders to make me think about what
I am writing in a different way.  Can you really blame me that I spend
most of my time in that kind of exchange here and pick my dogfights
carefully?

   











[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:
 
 I find that easy to believe.  This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not
 above anything that goes on here.  But by your standard of fairness
 you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive

Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a Hillbilly.
But agressive ? Not so much...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  I find that easy to believe.  This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not
  above anything that goes on here.  But by your standard of fairness
  you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive
 
 Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a Hillbilly.
 But agressive ? Not so much...

And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I called you a
mean-spirited old coot whose only pleasure comes from feeling superior
to other people through your spiritual delusions Nabby.  








[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
   I find that easy to believe.  This is a bit of a mosh pit and 
I'm not
   above anything that goes on here.  But by your standard of 
fairness
   you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being 
aggressive
  
  Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a 
Hillbilly.
  But agressive ? Not so much...
 
 And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I called you a
 mean-spirited old coot whose only pleasure comes from feeling 
superior
 to other people through your spiritual delusions Nabby.  

Don't worry about it curtis, I rather enjoyed it ! :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltabl...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj
  making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth.
 
 I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being
 someone else?  I haven't followed that closely enough to
 comment.

I've made at least a half-dozen posts on that, two of
them containing quotes from the contradictory posts.
How could you have missed all of them?

No, it has nothing to do with accusing coldbluice of
being someone else. It has to do with Vaj having
blatantly misrepresented what coldbluice had reported
of his experiences, telling an entirely different
story, as if from what coldbluice had said, when in
fact he had said something virtually the opposite.

  But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to
  describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and
  warrants a long scolding from you.
 
 That got my attention because I read almost all your
 posts not directed to Barry.

Except those directed at Vaj, apparently.

  I thought that you were being unfair by taunting
 John, and then when he responded in defense, you
 claimed he STARTED it.

Well, we never finished that discussion. You didn't
respond to my last post in it. I think you way 
exaggerated my sin in that instance.

My point is that you let all kinds of crap, flat-out
lying and gross unfairness, go by with Barry and Vaj
because, as you told me recently, you have offlist
contact with them and therefore know them better as
people.

But I don't lie, and I do my best not to be unfair,
and you jump on me when your idea of fairness doesn't
happen to quite coincide with mine.

That's the double standard I was talking about.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
  think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
  his basis for believing it be?
 
 If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100 posts to 
 you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 99.

98. :-)

When it comes to women I characterize as feminists 
(very much with quotes), I'm completely serious 
about the vast majority of them never having actually 
DONE anything.

They just talk, talk, talk as if they deserve
to be listened to simply because they're talking.
It's like bloggers, thinking that they're actually
influencing history or influencing public opinion
when all they're really doing is typing a few words
into a computer, most of which are never read by
anyone at all. Probably only a couple of dozen
bloggers have any effect at all.

When it comes to feminists (without quotes) I am 
spoiled because I got to work with and alongside
many of them over the years. Real feminists don't
whine. Real feminists don't have to come up with
silly manufactured outrage battles to fight. On
the whole, they're too busy trying to actually DO
something with their own lives, and help others
DO something with their own.

I have ZERO respect for talkers. I have great respect
for those who DO something. Nothing about Judy Stein
convinces me she's ever done shit -- not in the world
of spirituality, not in the world of business, and
not in the world of politics. I think she's basically
a blogger with an overinflated view of her audience.
She rants to a very, very small audience here on
FFL, *most* of whom don't even bother to read what
she writes. And to her this is synonymous with DOING
something. To me it's a bunch of talk, talk, talk.

A woman who quietly achieves her goals in life without
making a big deal out of it has done more for feminist
ideals than 10,000 women who rant and whine about the
mistreatment of women. That one woman is providing an
*example* of a woman DOING something, whereas the 10,000
are just talk, talk, talking.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
   I don't agree that you and Raunchy (if that is
   who this round is aimed at) don't do squat and
   blame others for your not doing anything.  You
   both seem pretty empowered to me.
  
  Thanks. I guess that's the most I can expect from
  you, but it's basically what I was looking for.
  
  This is specifically what I was asking you to
  comment on (which you did), BTW:
  
 You, as far as I can tell, followed the great god
 Nike and Just did it. As far as I can tell, the 
 feminists didn't -- and don't -- do squat except 
 blame someone else for them never having done 
 anything. 
  
  For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
  think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
  his basis for believing it be?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
   For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
   think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
   his basis for believing it be?
  
  If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100 posts to 
  you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 99.

For the record, here's what Barry said that I was
asking about:

You [Ruth], as far as I can tell, followed the
great god Nike and 'Just did it.' As far as I can
tell, the 'feminists' didn't -- and don't -- do
squat except blame someone else for them never
having done anything.

 When it comes to women I characterize as feminists 
 (very much with quotes), I'm completely serious 
 about the vast majority of them never having actually 
 DONE anything.
snip
 A woman who quietly achieves her goals in life without
 making a big deal out of it has done more for feminist
 ideals than 10,000 women who rant and whine about the
 mistreatment of women. That one woman is providing an
 *example* of a woman DOING something, whereas the 10,000
 are just talk, talk, talking.

Thirty-two years ago, I decided my goal in life was 
to work for myself, after having worked for other
people since I graduated from college.

And I just did it. I started my own editing 
business and have supported myself that way ever
since.

Contrary to Barry's claim, I've never once blamed
someone else for my never having done anything. I
don't *have* to, obviously, because I have indeed
DONE something, very successfully. And even if I
hadn't, it would never occur to me to blame anybody
else for my own faiilure.

In other words, what Barry's saying about me is
complete, utter fantasy. And he knows none of it is
true (as with a very large percentage of the things
he says about me).

If he had a legitimate case, why would he need to
lie? The fact that he *does* lie, repeatedly,
demonstrates that he knows he *doesn't* have a case.

What kind of crappy human being, what kind of total
wimp, has to *make up* stuff about somebody he
doesn't like?

Curtis isn't threatened by me; he got it right:

I don't agree that you and Raunchy (if that is who
this round is aimed at) don't do squat and blame others
for your not doing anything.  You both seem pretty
empowered to me.

raunchy can speak for herself about how she's
achieved her own goals.

Barry finds us so threatening because we *are*
empowered. He lies about us because he has to find
some way to *dis*empower us, at least in his own
twisted, frightened mind.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thirty-two years ago, I decided my goal in life was 
 to work for myself, after having worked for other
 people since I graduated from college.
 
 And I just did it. I started my own editing 
 business and have supported myself that way ever
 since.

Cool. 

Now, in those 32 years, and in the years
that preceded them, what have you done for
anyone *else*? 

The friend I wrote about today is about 2/3
your age. For the first half of her life she 
was a public defender who worked for pennies to
help people who couldn't afford to pay for a
lawyer themselves. Since switching careers,
she has created several hundred new jobs for
other people and facilitated the promotion
of dozens of women within the companies she
worked for. 

While doing this, full-time, she managed to
teach several thousand people how to meditate,
free, paying for all of it herself. In the 
last few months, she has taught several thou-
sand Indian men and women how to become self-
sufficient by teaching them computer skills.

I understand that, like Dick Cheney, you had
other priorities in your life, and I'm 
pleased as punch that you achieved them. But
part of my definition of a feminist is some-
one who walks the walk of helping other people,
and doesn't just talk about the mistreatment
of those people and blame the mistreaters.

No response is necessary or desired. I'm just
explaining why I feel the way I do about you
personally. When I was speaking of feminists
(very much with quotes), I was referring NOT
to just you and RD on this forum but to thous-
ands of people, both men and women, whom I have
encountered in life who seem to have focused 
on the negatives of sexual inequality and whined
about them monotopically, without ever doing 
much to provide any positives. 

I appreciate you speaking up about what you have
accomplished in terms of your personal goals,
and I think that's admirable. It's just that
from time to time, especially on *this* forum,
you should remember that you are addressing a
lot of people who put their personal goals 
aside or on hold for decades because it was 
more important to them to help other people 
than it was to help themselves.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Thirty-two years ago, I decided my goal in life was 
  to work for myself, after having worked for other
  people since I graduated from college.
  
  And I just did it. I started my own editing 
  business and have supported myself that way ever
  since.
 
 Cool. 
 
 Now, in those 32 years, and in the years
 that preceded them, what have you done for
 anyone *else*?

I don't have the drive or the talent for activism,
but I've supported women's (and many other) causes
financially using the drive and the talent I *do*
have. I've made more of a contribution that way
than I ever could have trying to do the kind of
things your friend has done.

snip
 I appreciate you speaking up about what you have
 accomplished in terms of your personal goals,
 and I think that's admirable. It's just that
 from time to time, especially on *this* forum,
 you should remember that you are addressing a
 lot of people who put their personal goals 
 aside or on hold for decades because it was 
 more important to them to help other people 
 than it was to help themselves.

Helping others has always been one of my goals,
and I've done it in a way that was best suited
to my abilities.

I respect the contributions of activists. But I
would expect the same respect for my contributions.
Thing is, they've been private rather than public.
You and the others who boast about helping others
should remember from time to time that not everyone
who contributes to human welfare does so in a way
that you can see.

(This is 50 for me.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy,
 Any comments?


I didn't follow the whole thread.  I'm not sure what you want me to
comment on.  I don't agree that you and Raunchy (if that is who this
round is aimed at) don't do squat and blame others for your not doing
anything.  You both seem pretty empowered to me.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
What could BE more sexist than these character-
izations of women? And yet they get a pass
from the same women who obsess about childish
behavior in modern men who admittedly should
know better, and try to use that childishness
to demonize their boss, who *wasn't involved*.
   
   Hey, I am a feminist! 
  
  Ruth, the difference is that you are a feminist
  (without quotes) and the ones I am referring to
  are feminists (very much with quotes).  :-)
  
  You, as far as I can tell, followed the great god
  Nike and Just did it. As far as I can tell, the 
  feminists didn't -- and don't -- do squat except 
  blame someone else for them never having done 
  anything. 
 
 Any comments?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I don't agree that you and Raunchy (if that is
 who this round is aimed at) don't do squat and
 blame others for your not doing anything.  You
 both seem pretty empowered to me.

Thanks. I guess that's the most I can expect from
you, but it's basically what I was looking for.

This is specifically what I was asking you to
comment on (which you did), BTW:

   You, as far as I can tell, followed the great god
   Nike and Just did it. As far as I can tell, the 
   feminists didn't -- and don't -- do squat except 
   blame someone else for them never having done 
   anything. 

For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
his basis for believing it be?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?

2008-12-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
 For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
 think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
 his basis for believing it be?

If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100 posts to you, just to
get a rise, I'll be right 99.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 snip
  I don't agree that you and Raunchy (if that is
  who this round is aimed at) don't do squat and
  blame others for your not doing anything.  You
  both seem pretty empowered to me.
 
 Thanks. I guess that's the most I can expect from
 you, but it's basically what I was looking for.
 
 This is specifically what I was asking you to
 comment on (which you did), BTW:
 
You, as far as I can tell, followed the great god
Nike and Just did it. As far as I can tell, the 
feminists didn't -- and don't -- do squat except 
blame someone else for them never having done 
anything. 
 
 For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you
 think Barry really believes this? If so, what might
 his basis for believing it be?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis doesn't khow to send an e-mail

2008-09-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
  So, apparently Curtis, who faults McCain for not
  using email, can't spell and can't count. And I 
  doubt if Curtis has ever used any 'speech 
  recognition software'.
 
 I haven't needed to use it, and your point is?

If you can't type or spell or count, maybe you should
be using a bullhorn instead of a computer - I doubt
speech recognition software would make your message
any easier to understand. 

  I'm convinced, from what I've read, that Obama wants
  to smear McCain and Palin - one a cripple
 
 Oh, well I'm glad to get a political correctness from 
 you Richard. Does cripple replace gimp in your 
 lexicon of sensitive terms for disabilities? I'm not 
 sure that people with shoulder and arm injuries were 
 ever called cripples, even back in your day when 
 women were dames or broads or skirts. 
 
This coming from a predator who favors 'ball-gags' on
his women! Amazing.

  and the other a woman. Obama's campaign has reached 
  a new low! First the finger, then the 'pig', and 
  'stinking', then calling Sarah a liar, now making 
  fun of the handicapped. 
 
 I think John Mcain would punch you in the face for 
 calling him disabled or using it as an excuse for 
 why he isn't an email user.

From what I've read, McCains vehicle plate reads 'DV'.  

 And being into computers wont have any relevance for 
 the next president anyway, its just a passing fad.
 
Let's make fun of older people, and women, and the 
disabled. Let's question their patriotism. Let's lie 
and smear them, and make sexist remarks about them. 

Let's win at any cost - we will not be 'Swift Boated'!

So, when American workers hear John McCain talking 
about putting 'Country First', it's fair to ask –- 
which country? - Barak Obama



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis doesn't khow to send an e-mail

2008-09-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Two words, speech recognitions software. 
 
 Sal wrote:
   That is really funny.
  
 So, apparently Curtis, who faults McCain for not
 using email, can't spell and can't count. And I doubt 
 if Curtis has ever used any 'speech recognition software'.

I haven't needed to use it, and your point is?

  
 I'm convinced, from what I've read, that Obama wants
 to smear McCain and Palin - one a cripple

Oh, well I'm glad to get a political correctness from you Richard. 
Does cripple replace gimp in your lexicon of sensitive terms for
disabilities? I'm not sure that people with shoulder and arm injuries
were ever called cripples, even back in your day when women were
dames or broads or skirts. 

 and the other
 a woman. Obama's campaign has reached a new low!
  
 First the finger, then the 'pig', and 'stinking', then calling
 Sarah a liar, now making fun of the handicapped. 

I think John Mcain would punch you in the face for calling him
disabled or using it as an excuse for why he isn't an email user.  And
being into computers wont have any relevance for the next president
anyway, its just a passing fad.


  
 Now Sal posting all her replies beginning with RE: and 
 beginning and ending on one line.
  
 This is a new low for FFL, fer sure.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis doesn't khow to send an e-mail

2008-09-13 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:52 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


Now Sal posting all her replies beginning with RE: and
beginning and ending on one line.

This is a new low for FFL, fer sure.


It's my job, as a longtime FF Life poster, Richard, to
bring down the tone here to new lows whenever
possible.  And if using RE: will do it, then RE:
it'll be, dammit.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mediicates! ! [Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? )]

2008-05-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for the hooray Edg.  I am such a dilitantte with meditation, I
wouldn't hold your breath for any deep insights from this fool.  There
are so many others here who take the whole thing so much more
seriously.  For me it seems like some kind of brain endorphin
addiction that I picked up again like an AA dude fallling off the
wagon and finding out his disease was exactly where he had left it
when he resumes!  That is a little negative, but I do sense that my
brain is effected in a way it likes, and I detect that this may be
something different from it being good for me.  It is a primal
pleasure.  But when Vaj and Turq talk about beginner meditation,
that resonates fine with me.  I'm a training wheels kind of guy in
this realm.  I'm the guy I used to try to mindfuck into taking a
residence course after checking his meditation who would look at me
wryly and head for the door, happy to enjoy a twice a day break, but
not trying to start giving Lord Shiva a little reach around!

But meditating without the belief package has some advantages for me
just as tripping without magical thinking was much more enjoyable for
me.  When I was full of magical thinking, acid would make the world a
much squirrelier and less stable place where ANYTHING could happen. 
As a non-magical thinker, the trip was so much more calm and centered
because I wasn't looking at the experience as Canstaneda would, as an
insight into another world.  Meditation for me now is kind of like
that.  Same expansion and internal party, but without any implications
that any of it means something more than its face value.  I am
carefully monitoring the dissociation factor and if I started lifting
off again as far as I was in the old days I would probably chill on it
for a while.  I believe this is not a state I need a lot of.  Sort of
like exercise.  There is a too much there too where I start to lose
energy instead of gain it.  

It was good for me to shake up my identity as a non-meditator. Plus it
makes it so much weirder when I bring up where I think Maharishi was
full of shit! A meditating, EX-TMer, how Zen is that!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 Good on ya for doing, erp, no other phrase for it, research into
 consciousness.
 
 If you do post more about your experiment, I'll be reading it -- word
 by word.  
 
 I think that your doing so (non-doing so?) is a neat modeling to us
 that despite your well known circumspections of suspiciousity
 regarding TM, you're rolling up your sleeves for a little role in the
 HEY!
 
 I'm rooting fer ya.
 
 One thing I would be looking for -- after meditation when I would
 review the events -- is the differences between the subtleties -- such
 as: 
 
 -- blank vs. aware blank or 
 
 -- silence concurrent with awareness vs. silence concurrent with
 time/space
 
 -- energy in body vs. a topic spurred emotion or 
 
 -- love emanating vs. a welcoming open silence
 
 -- dream vs. astral and real
 
 -- a step inward towards non-doing vs. becoming aware of the
 vastness of doingness as subtle levels of mentation become more
 clearly graspable.
 
 -- directed hallucination vs. deep nature revealed
 
 -- unchangingness vs. unchanging things.
 
 -- mantra and silence equating to the practice of samyama vs.
 mantra is entirely spontaneous without any stink of egoic intent.
 
 And on and on could such polarities be poetically suggested.
 
 I don't know that I am yet fit to return to such an experiment -- I
 have so much of an intellectual veneer to poke through first -- that
 is be naturally aware instead of my constantly inspecting processes
 by defining them on the fly according to Advaitan dogma.
 
 Bravo ta ya.
 
 Edg
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Curtis,
   
   MMY said in the past that once you've been initiated into the 
   tradition, the effects of of the mantra stays with you ad
infinitum.  
   If your meditation practice is interrupted in this lifetime, you
will 
   probably pick it up again in the next one.
  
  And how do you imagine a human being could know such a thing?  I
  think it is just a way for mediators to deal with drop outs.  Can you
  see how it might be viewed as a bit condescending? I don't assume that
  TM is good for everyone, do you? 
  
  Anyway I've been meditating regularly as a test since February.  I am
  trying to understand its value as a practice without all the beliefs
  in the system.  (at least the ones I am conscious of and have
  discarded)  So far so good, so I guess my magic mantra found me again
  in this life.  At least for now.  
  
  
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:

 Curtis wrote:
  Here is a little gem from Maharishi on caste 
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mediicates! ! [Caste (Was Guru Dev really Santa? )]

2008-05-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
[...]
 It was good for me to shake up my identity as a non-meditator. Plus it
 makes it so much weirder when I bring up where I think Maharishi was
 full of shit! A meditating, EX-TMer, how Zen is that!


Maharishi would be quite pleased, I think...


L



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for checking out my music.  They have posted two other videos
from my site.  Search under Curtis Blues and they all come up.  It is
kinda freaky that videos I put on my site can be taken and posted
everywhere.  It works out nicely for these ones but it definitely
gives me pause about putting up the ones with me dancing around the
room with my Inflate-a-date!

Cool to hear about your blues bands.  I'm more Delta than Chicago but
I love it all.  I prefer acoustic harp, played away from the mike
instead of cupping a green bullet and getting that Chicago distortion
sound.  Here in D.C. we have a lot of Chicago style bands but very few
acoustic players.  Is there a good acoustic scene in Seattle?





--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 curtisdeltablues wrote:
  Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
  appearance. (high brow Wayne's World but TV nonetheless!) Any well
  wishers who care to check it out, give me a star rating, and write
  comments like I want to have his babies (women and effeminate
  power-bottoms only please) would be much appreciated.  It doesn't
  exactly have viral potential but it would be nice to boost it up a bit
  so more people see it.  Anyone who writes something nice will be
  mentioned at my Grammy acceptance speech after Jesus Christ, Lord
  Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Sam Harris...(you get the idea).
 
  The song is from Big Joe Williams who used to liven up his
  performances by shooting a pistol in the air if the crowd got too
  rowdy.   He was a contemporary of Robert Johnson and was re-recorded
  in the 60's in the folk revival.  He used to add 3 strings to his
  guitar by drilling holes in the headstock which doubled certain
  strings for busking volume.  It starts:
 
  When the blues come out of Texas, they were loping like a mule, but
  those Texas women are just too hard to fool!
 
  Thanks for indulging this blatant self promotion.
 Great stuff.  I think you would have enjoyed sitting in with some of
the 
 blues bands I played with in Seattle and we certainly would have  
 enjoyed having you sit in.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-12 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote:
 Thanks for checking out my music.  They have posted two other videos
 from my site.  Search under Curtis Blues and they all come up.  It is
 kinda freaky that videos I put on my site can be taken and posted
 everywhere.  It works out nicely for these ones but it definitely
 gives me pause about putting up the ones with me dancing around the
 room with my Inflate-a-date!

 Cool to hear about your blues bands.  I'm more Delta than Chicago but
 I love it all.  I prefer acoustic harp, played away from the mike
 instead of cupping a green bullet and getting that Chicago distortion
 sound.  Here in D.C. we have a lot of Chicago style bands but very few
 acoustic players.  Is there a good acoustic scene in Seattle?


   
I don't know what the current scene is like in Seattle, I lived there 16 
years ago and was playing in a blues band then (as well as other 
groups).   The guy whose band I played in has been gigging around there 
a lot now days.  He's also a former TM'er and checks in on this list 
from time to time. I once played a gig with Lightin' Hopkins which was 
interesting. :)



 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
 Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
 appearance. (high brow Wayne's World but TV nonetheless!) Any well
 wishers who care to check it out, give me a star rating, and write
 comments like I want to have his babies (women and effeminate
 power-bottoms only please) would be much appreciated.  It doesn't
 exactly have viral potential but it would be nice to boost it up a bit
 so more people see it.  Anyone who writes something nice will be
 mentioned at my Grammy acceptance speech after Jesus Christ, Lord
 Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Sam Harris...(you get the idea).

 The song is from Big Joe Williams who used to liven up his
 performances by shooting a pistol in the air if the crowd got too
 rowdy.   He was a contemporary of Robert Johnson and was re-recorded
 in the 60's in the folk revival.  He used to add 3 strings to his
 guitar by drilling holes in the headstock which doubled certain
 strings for busking volume.  It starts:

 When the blues come out of Texas, they were loping like a mule, but
 those Texas women are just too hard to fool!

 Thanks for indulging this blatant self promotion.
   
 Great stuff.  I think you would have enjoyed sitting in with some of
 
 the 
   
 blues bands I played with in Seattle and we certainly would have  
 enjoyed having you sit in.

 



   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
I once played a gig with Lightin' Hopkins which was
interesting. :)

That is the coolest thing I've heard this week!  What a character that
guy was.  I play his version of Baby Please Don't Go.  His little
trick of adding an upstroke beat to his shuffle defines the Texas
sound doesn't it.  Any details about him are welcome.  You gigged with
a legend!



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 curtisdeltablues wrote:
  Thanks for checking out my music.  They have posted two other videos
  from my site.  Search under Curtis Blues and they all come up.  It is
  kinda freaky that videos I put on my site can be taken and posted
  everywhere.  It works out nicely for these ones but it definitely
  gives me pause about putting up the ones with me dancing around the
  room with my Inflate-a-date!
 
  Cool to hear about your blues bands.  I'm more Delta than Chicago but
  I love it all.  I prefer acoustic harp, played away from the mike
  instead of cupping a green bullet and getting that Chicago distortion
  sound.  Here in D.C. we have a lot of Chicago style bands but very few
  acoustic players.  Is there a good acoustic scene in Seattle?
 
 

 I don't know what the current scene is like in Seattle, I lived
there 16 
 years ago and was playing in a blues band then (as well as other 
 groups).   The guy whose band I played in has been gigging around there 
 a lot now days.  He's also a former TM'er and checks in on this list 
 from time to time. I once played a gig with Lightin' Hopkins which was 
 interesting. :)
 
 
 
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  curtisdeltablues wrote:
  
  Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
  appearance. (high brow Wayne's World but TV nonetheless!) Any well
  wishers who care to check it out, give me a star rating, and write
  comments like I want to have his babies (women and effeminate
  power-bottoms only please) would be much appreciated.  It doesn't
  exactly have viral potential but it would be nice to boost it up
a bit
  so more people see it.  Anyone who writes something nice will be
  mentioned at my Grammy acceptance speech after Jesus Christ, Lord
  Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Sam Harris...(you get the idea).
 
  The song is from Big Joe Williams who used to liven up his
  performances by shooting a pistol in the air if the crowd got too
  rowdy.   He was a contemporary of Robert Johnson and was re-recorded
  in the 60's in the folk revival.  He used to add 3 strings to his
  guitar by drilling holes in the headstock which doubled certain
  strings for busking volume.  It starts:
 
  When the blues come out of Texas, they were loping like a mule, but
  those Texas women are just too hard to fool!
 
  Thanks for indulging this blatant self promotion.

  Great stuff.  I think you would have enjoyed sitting in with some of
  
  the 

  blues bands I played with in Seattle and we certainly would have  
  enjoyed having you sit in.
 
  
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-11 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, thanks for catching that.  If you search for Curtis Blues I
 come up.  Otherwise you can go to 
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbLehU3j_os
 
 
 

It's real good, stardom awaits.

I would offer my services as drummer but you seem to have it sewn up, 
plus it might disturb the one-man-band ethos a bit.






 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:37 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis Blues on Youtube.com
  
   
  
  Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
  
  So where's the link?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks man.  I appreciate your checking it out.  I never perform with
drummers but love to jam with them.  A real drummer can lay down much
more complex rhythms than I can with my bass and hi-hat.  It
challenges me, changes the music and teaches me a lot.  I get a lot 
more out of that kind of creative jam then I do from playing with
another guitarist.  Other guitarists tend to fill in the silences that
this style requires to preserve the feel.  I have also had some great
jams with people playing dumbek or djimbe hand drums.  I have always
had a strong affinity with percussion and rhythm.  If you don't get
that right people don't move their hips which is my whole purpose of
my life, getting those hips moving!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Sorry, thanks for catching that.  If you search for Curtis Blues I
  come up.  Otherwise you can go to 
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbLehU3j_os
  
  
  
 
 It's real good, stardom awaits.
 
 I would offer my services as drummer but you seem to have it sewn up, 
 plus it might disturb the one-man-band ethos a bit.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:37 AM
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis Blues on Youtube.com
   

   
   Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
   
   So where's the link?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sorry, thanks for catching that.  If you search for Curtis Blues I
come up.  Otherwise you can go to 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbLehU3j_os





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:37 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis Blues on Youtube.com
 
  
 
 Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
 
 So where's the link?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on Youtube.com

2007-04-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone just posted my first video on Youtube from a TV show
 appearance. (high brow Wayne's World but TV nonetheless!) Any well
 wishers who care to check it out, give me a star rating, and write
 comments like I want to have his babies (women and effeminate
 power-bottoms only please) would be much appreciated.  It doesn't
 exactly have viral potential but it would be nice to boost it up 
 a bit so more people see it.  Anyone who writes something nice 
 will be mentioned at my Grammy acceptance speech after Jesus 
 Christ, Lord Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Sam Harris...(you get the idea).
 
 The song is from Big Joe Williams who used to liven up his
 performances by shooting a pistol in the air if the crowd got too
 rowdy.   He was a contemporary of Robert Johnson and was re-recorded
 in the 60's in the folk revival.  He used to add 3 strings to his
 guitar by drilling holes in the headstock which doubled certain
 strings for busking volume.  It starts:
 
 When the blues come out of Texas, they were loping like a mule, but
 those Texas women are just too hard to fool!
 
 Thanks for indulging this blatant self promotion.

Congratulations yet again, Curtis. Review and rating
duly posted...

Unc





[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:

http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
 my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
 
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm


Very nice work with harmoica and guitar. Took me back to The Cup Coffehouse in 
the early 
70s (where Linda Ronstadt got her start).





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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 Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while 
 to ride my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
 
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm

Very nice. 

I'm not a big blues afficionado, but my next-door
neighbor is. He's got a collection of maybe 10,000
78s, plays several instruments, and performs music
of the 20s through the 40s himself. 

Anyway, he came over to return a DVD I'd lent him 
and heard this playing and commented that he liked
it a lot. That's a real compliment...in general he 
doesn't like anything recorded since the 30s.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread cardemaister
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 Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
 my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
 
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm



I guess I gots to replace my NT4(!) with XP or somesuch to
see that... 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread hermandan0
And a very fine hat it is!
Thanks Curtis.

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 Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
 my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
 
 http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
  my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
  
  http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
 
 
 
 I guess I gots to replace my NT4(!) with XP or somesuch to
 see that...

You need to have Quicktime installed, and it won't work on NT4:  

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

Windows Minimum Requirements

* A Pentium processor-based PC or compatible computer
* At least 128MB of RAM
* Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 or XP

My advice: go with Win2000. It performs better than XP on older,
slower hardware, and it's remarkably robust for a M$FT OS. I used it
on this machine up until a month or so ago, when I finally switched to
XP because I was encountering too much multimedia content requiring
WMP 10.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks Spraig.  Linda was sooo hot back in the day...

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  Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
  my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
  
  http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
 
 
 Very nice work with harmoica and guitar. Took me back to The Cup
Coffehouse in the early 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks HermandanO!

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 And a very fine hat it is!
 Thanks Curtis.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while to ride
  my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
  
  http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues Video

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for passing this on about your blues friend.  As a collector of
78 he really is into this style!  If he has anything out that I can
hear please pass it on.  Chicago blues took over the scene so he and I
are into a dying art.  For me the personal solo style is more direct
emotionally than the electric bands that came after.


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Here is my hat for the music video ring.  It took me a while 
  to ride my video software to pull this off.  Check it out:
  
  http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
 
 Very nice. 
 
 I'm not a big blues afficionado, but my next-door
 neighbor is. He's got a collection of maybe 10,000
 78s, plays several instruments, and performs music
 of the 20s through the 40s himself. 
 
 Anyway, he came over to return a DVD I'd lent him 
 and heard this playing and commented that he liked
 it a lot. That's a real compliment...in general he 
 doesn't like anything recorded since the 30s.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis: is my memory correct?

2006-09-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Yes, good memory.  I was a good friend of Paul's and was very
interested in hanging out with Cistertian monks with Paul while at
MIU.  It was an unique exposure to an interesting culture.  Paul is
back in the monastery in Georgia last I heard.  I lost touch with him
in the 80's.

That sucks about them demolishing the MIU chapel, it was one of the
only charming buildings on campus, great for music.




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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 9/17/06 1:55 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
   
And am out of line drawing a parallel between what the Taliban 
 did
and what the TMO desires to do with the monastery?
   
  Not too far. There was a huge outcry in FF when MUM tore down the 
 beautiful,
  historic chapel on campus (which faced slightly to the south).
 
 
 
 Curtis:
 
 Correct me if I am wrong here, but I have a distinct memory of you 
 attending Paul Marichal's lectures at lunchtime at the chapel of which 
 Rick speaks.  Yes?








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mailloux my friend how to contact him in W.VA

2006-05-08 Thread WLeed3





Curtis I met in FL when he was @ Avon Park  we became great 
friends with laughs there  long talks. I lost contact yrs ago. How may I 
reach him now by email or tel. or address . Is he married  living in 
what town etc. THANKS in advance Bill Leed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mailloux my friend how to contact him in W.VA

2006-05-08 Thread shempmcgurk





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 Curtis I met in FL when he was @ Avon Park  we became great friends
with
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now by
 email or tel. or address . Is he married  living in what town etc.
THANKS in
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Why not just send magical thoughts of those happy faces you posted here
out into the ether? I'm sure Curtis will pick up on them and respond to
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mailloux my friend how to contact him in W.VA

2006-05-08 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mailloux my friend how to contact him in W.VA





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Curtis I met in FL when he was @ Avon Park  we became great friends with laughs there  long talks. I lost contact yrs ago. How may I reach him now by email or tel. or address . Is he married  living in what town etc. THANKS in advance Bill Leed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

His email is here: http://www.curtisblues.com/contact1.htm

People were commenting on the quality of his songs. Was there a site where you could listen to them?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Mailloux my friend how to contact him in W.VA

2006-05-08 Thread authfriend



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 on 5/8/06 9:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Curtis I met in FL when he was @ Avon Park  we became great 
friends with
  laughs there  long talks. I lost contact yrs ago. How may I 
reach him now by
  email or tel. or address . Is he married  living in what town 
etc. THANKS in
  advance Bill Leed, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 His email is here: http://www.curtisblues.com/contact1.htm
 
 People were commenting on the quality of his songs. Was there a site
 where you could listen to them?

Clips from the songs on his CD:

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues













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