Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?
In a message dated 10/22/07 4:20:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Much of the legislation the GOP has blocked has been overwhelmingly supported by the American people. The Webb amendment for longer breaks for our troops and the extension of SCHIP are just two examples. Then I suppose you have some evidence to back that claim up. CBS Poll: Overwhelming Support for SCHIP CBS News is out with a new poll (PDF format) that makes it clear how popular SCHIP - the State Children's Health Insurance Program - is among the American people. How about these numbers? WOULD YOU FAVOR OR OPPOSE EXPANDING SCHIP? Favor 81% Oppose 15 _http://www.cbsnews.http://www.http://www.cbhttp://www.chtt_ (http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/CBS_news_poll_101707.pdf) Via: _http://www.raisingkhttp://wwhttp://wwwhttp://www.http:_ (http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=10960) === Apparently there was no public poll on the Webb Amendment. However it was backed by the Military Officers Association of America representing over 370,000 military officers. I believe you left out my comment about the devil is in the details. Many more republicans would have supported the SCHIP program had it not raised the age of children to 25 in some states and allowed families earning up to eighty thousand dollars to be enrolled in it,that's why we have a republican form of government, we have representatives read the details of the legislation and know exactly what is being voted on.So yes, the SCHIP program is a popular idea , just not in the form that it was presented in the legislation. I can guarantee you the CBS poll didn't spell out the details when it asked if people were in favor of it or not. The Webb amendment is bad policy meant to tie the hands of the President. The President is Commander in Chief, not the Congress. I'm sure the Military Officers Association of America would also back legislation giving every soldier a million dollar life insurance policy as well. Can't blame them for that, it's just not practical. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/23/07 1:22:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious to see the results of the military vote in the '08 elections. It's clear that our troops are not gung ho about Bush's bullshit Iraq war. Oh, they'll love Hillary! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/23/07 1:22:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that's why we have a republican form of government, we have representatives read the details of the legislation and know exactly what is being voted on. What a load of horseshit. Most Senators and House members, Democratic AND Republican, rarely ever read the full legislation they vote on, much less the details. If your legislator isn't doing his/her job, you fire them. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/21/07 4:33:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well then it must be the will of the people that they do it. Nope. Much of the legislation the GOP has blocked has been overwhelmingly supported by the American people. The Webb amendment for longer breaks for our troops and the extension of SCHIP are just two examples. Then I suppose you have some evidence to back that claim up. Remember, the devil is in the details of the proposed legisation. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/20/07 5:31:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/20/07 6:41:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also fails to acknowledge that Congress isn't a 'Democratic' Congress. Sixty votes are required to freely pass legislation in the Senate and the Senate is as follows: Democratic Senators 49 Republican Senators 49 Independent 1 Connecticut for Lieberman Party 1 AND, a 2/3 majority is required to pass bills in the House: House of Representatives Democratic Representatives 233 Republican Representatives 200 Who sets the agenda's in the House and the Senate? Reid and Pelosi? And? U, Democrat Congress means that the Democrats control the House and the Senate, hold the majority and leadership positions, control the committees, decide what legislative bills will come to the floor to be voted on and just as importantly, which ones will not. That was the case when the Congress was referred to as a Republican House and Senate. It doesn't mean that either side can pass their agenda without bipartisan support and to get that, there must be agreement on the details of a bill. I'm sure you've heard the saying, the devil is inside the details. You whine and complain about Republican obstructionism now and say they are standing in the way of the will of the people when Democrats have done the very same thing since '94. So, turn about is fair play,wouldn't you say? Losing control of the legislative initiative or even the White House isn't a disaster, it's just a delay in advancing ones agenda. It's kind of like football. You get the ball for four downs and as long as you make the required progress, you get to keep it, until you score. The Constitution are the rules and the voters are the referees. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/21/07 12:05:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi snip You whine and complain about Republican obstructionism now and say they are standing in the way of the will of the people when Democrats have done the very same thing since '94. Nope. The Republicans are doing it *far more*--three times as much, in fact--than the Democrats ever did (or previous Republicans ever did, for that matter). Well then it must be the will of the people that they do it. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/20/07 6:41:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also fails to acknowledge that Congress isn't a 'Democratic' Congress. Sixty votes are required to freely pass legislation in the Senate and the Senate is as follows: Democratic Senators 49 Republican Senators 49 Independent 1 Connecticut for Lieberman Party 1 AND, a 2/3 majority is required to pass bills in the House: House of Representatives Democratic Representatives 233 Republican Representatives 200 Who sets the agenda's in the House and the Senate? Reid and Pelosi? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 7:38:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al Gore in earth tones? You wanted evidence the country is growing more fascist. Read the article, asshole. I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole, fool! It's based on facts, bwana. Are you the classic less than bright redneck? Haven't you noticed your boy George is at 24% approval now? He's tied with Nixon when Nixon walked out of the White House in shame. Based on facts? Prove it! Are you the kind of fool that believes everything you read, especially from a fellow left winger ? What are Reid and Pelosi doing about it? Twenty-four percent, who's poll? Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Don't count on Bush walking out any time soon. He will be a pain in the butt to Reid/Pelosi till then. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people want and impeaching Bush and Cheney. Show me a poll that reflects this statement. That's a cop out. Instead why don't you find some articles that refute my statement.
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In a message dated 10/19/07 4:42:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. Uh, huh ...how does that differ from what I said? A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. So Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of Bush's. Apparently you're either blind or mentally retarded: CBS Poll dated - 10/12-16/07 - Approval of Congress at 27% Evidently you can't read or you refuse to accept the Zogby poll results which stated that A Paltry 11% gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. That line was right under the line giving Bush a 24% approval rating. So what are you doing, shopping your poll numbers? Zogby gives Bush lower numbers so you quote it but CBS gives Congress higher numbers so you use that. You might want to read the entire Zogby Poll over and you will see Congress getting 11% approval rating, two months in a row! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 3:52:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people want and impeaching Bush and Cheney. Show me a poll that reflects this statement. That's a cop out. Instead why don't you find some articles that refute my statement. Bwahhahahahahaah. No, your's is the cop out. You make a claim. I'm just saying,*back it up*. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 4:59:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. So Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of Bush's. I should have added according to Zogby. Yes. You should have. Why? Do you not accept Zogby's polling results when it comes to Congress, but accept the results when they regard Bush's ? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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THYPERLINK http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+dylan/talkin+world+war+iii+blues_20021598. htmlalkin’ World War III Blues Talkin' World War III Blues was a spontaneous composition created in the studio during Dylan's final session for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan. Some time ago a crazy dream came to me, I dreamt I was walkin into world war three, I went to the doctor the very next day To see what kinda words he could say. He said it was a bad dream. I wouldnt worry bout it none, though, They were my own dreams and they’re only in my head. I said, hold it, doc, a world war passed through my brain. He said, nurse, get your pad, this boys insane, He grabbed my arm, I said ouch! As I landed on the psychiatric couch, He said, tell me about it. Well, the whole thing started at 3 oclock fast, It was all over by quarter past. I was down in the sewer with some little lover When I peeked out from a manhole cover Wondering who turned the lights on. Well, I got up and walked around And up and down the lonesome town. I stood a-wondering which way to go, I lit a cigarette on a parking meter And walked on down the road. It was a normal day. Well, I rung the fallout shelter bell And I leaned my head and I gave a yell, Give me a string bean, Im a hungry man. A shotgun fired and away I ran. I dont blame them too much though, I know I look funny. Down at the corner by a hot-dog stand I seen a man, I said, howdy friend, I guess theres just us two. He screamed a bit and away he flew. Thought I was a communist. Well, I spied a girl and before she could leave, Lets go and play adam and eve. I took her by the hand and my heart it was thumpin When she said, hey man, you crazy or sumpin, You see what happened last time they started. Well, I seen a cadillac window uptown And there was nobody aroun, I got into the drivers seat And I drove 42nd street In my cadillac. Good car to drive after a war. Well, I remember seein some ad, So I turned on my conelrad. But I didnt pay my con ed bill, So the radio didnt work so well. Turned on my player- It was rock-a-day, johnny singin, Tell your ma, tell your pa, Our loves are gonna grow ooh-wah, ooh-wah. I was feelin kinda lonesome and blue, I needed somebody to talk to. So I called up the operator of time Just to hear a voice of some kind. When you hear the beep It will be three oclock, She said that for over an hour And I hung it up. Well, the doctor interrupted me just about then, Sayin, hey Ive been havin the same old dreams, But mine was a little different you see. I dreamt that the only person left after the war was me. I didnt see you around. Well, now time passed and now it seems Everybodys having them dreams. Everybody sees themselves walkin around with no one else. Half of the people can be part right all of the time, Some of the people can be all right part of the time. I think abraham lincoln said that. Ill let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours, I said that. HYPERLINK http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+dylan/Bob Dylan lyrics No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 5:47 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: World War III?
In a message dated 10/19/07 11:14:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a messag Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. So Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of Bush's. I should have added according to Zogby. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. So Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of Bush's. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 7:26:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/19/07 7:18:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a messag Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al Gore in earth tones? You wanted evidence the country is growing more fascist. Read the article, asshole. I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole, fool! _Breitbart.tv » Stark Raving Mad: Congressman Accuses President of Deriving ‘ Amusement’ from American War Dead_ (http://breitbart.tv/html/6912.html) If Bush were a fascist, Stark would be in prison with no bail. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 7:18:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al Gore in earth tones? You wanted evidence the country is growing more fascist. Read the article, asshole. I did. And it's pure emotionalism and hyperbole, fool! ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/19/07 8:40:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last I saw it was in the thirties. How about that 11% approval rating for that Democrat congress? Nope. Congress is rated higher than boy George at 27%: Try reading the polls you site.Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month's record low. So Congress' positive poll numbers are a fraction of Bush's. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people want and impeaching Bush and Cheney. They are afraid of being called soft on terror when they return to their districts but what they are now finding is they are being called soft of Bush. I think, as Nader points out in this video, they have been blackmailed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIO-tCPSfHA Naomi Kline argued here how America is going fascist. But I think one has to be brain dead not to see America is going fascist (or you don't understand *what* fascism is). http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Naomi_Klein_explains_how_we_willingly_1013.html
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In a message dated 10/19/07 11:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Congress is getting a low rating, almost as low as Dick Cheney because the cowards (yes Democrats too) are not doing what the American people want and impeaching Bush and Cheney. Show me a poll that reflects this statement. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/19/07 6:32:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please explain how the country is growing more and more Fascist day by day. Won't Back Down By: Naomi Wolf Who on God's earth is Naomi Wolf? Wasn't she the one that dressed Al Gore in earth tones? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/18/07 9:15:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --Not Fascist, but rather: religious fundamentalist.--Not takeover with various fundies in the Pentagon and Military. The fundies will have difficulty throwing their support to Giulianni, thus giving the next election to a Democrat. In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi In a message dated 10/18/07 2:48:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His legacy will be the worst president in history and if anyone in congress has enough balls he'll serve it out in Leavenworth. The country is growing more and more fascist day by day. I think the country has been pretty much in the control of *fundies* since it's inception. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/18/07 9:46:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. Please explain how the country is growing more and more Fascist day by day. Try reading the news. We've lost habeas corpus. We now know that Bushco had the telecoms snooping through our emails before 9-11. The telecoms should NOT be granted immunity from prosecution for the snooping. We have unwarranted search and seizures. We have the cops tasering innocent people. We have stuck on the do not fly list who don't belong there but can't get off it. And on and on and on. My goodness, well I guess Lincoln was a precursor to Adolf Hitler since he suspended Habeas Corpus as well. And Roosevelt? How about throwing all those *Japs* in concentration camps and spying on the Kraut/Americans in the US. So Bush has cops tasering innocent people? Ha! Those were campus police, under the control of a University President who hosted John Kerry to speak. Kerry could have done more to prevent *Don't tase me Bro* from getting what he deserved better than Bush could have. If Bush were half the Fascist you seem to think he is, there would be no *Bundestag*( Congress), no articles critical of him or his administration printed, your e-mail investigated by the FBI and on and on and on. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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John wrote: Bush's popularity here in the USA has gone down drastically because of the war in Iraq. He is lucky no one in Congress has motioned for impeachment. His saber rattling with Iran and Russia would certainly raise many questions about his capacity to lead a nation. As of now, he is considered by most Americans as a lame duck president. He should just serve out his time and retire like all other presidents to preserve his legacy, whatever that might be. His legacy will be the worst president in history and if anyone in congress has enough balls he'll serve it out in Leavenworth. The country is growing more and more fascist day by day. The Democrats aren't helping any as they are kissing the asses of the corporations too. I think that congress has been blackmailed that if they do anything against Bush something bad will happen and if they even admit they've been blackmailed something bad will happen. The French sure have more courage than the American sheeple: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=auFu4fx7WyZg It would be sheer fantasy to imagine anything like that happening here.
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In a message dated 10/18/07 2:48:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His legacy will be the worst president in history and if anyone in congress has enough balls he'll serve it out in Leavenworth. The country is growing more and more fascist day by day. Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. Please explain how the country is growing more and more Fascist day by day. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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In a message dated 10/18/07 8:36:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All Members: Will Bush take us to another war before he leaves office? Please, see the article below: Bush: Threat of World War III if Iran goes nuclear By Matt Spetalnick. Wed Oct 17, 2:33 PM ET ...and, of course, if he does, he can suspend or cancel next year's election, thanks to one of his recent amusing Presidential Decrees. Am I right about this? uns. No. Elections have never been suspended during a time of war. Iran won't be armed with nuclear capabilities before 2008 elections. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/18/07 2:48:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His legacy will be the worst president in history and if anyone in congress has enough balls he'll serve it out in Leavenworth. The country is growing more and more fascist day by day. Sorry, that's Jimmy Carter's legacy. Please explain how the country is growing more and more Fascist day by day. Try reading the news. We've lost habeas corpus. We now know that Bushco had the telecoms snooping through our emails before 9-11. The telecoms should NOT be granted immunity from prosecution for the snooping. We have unwarranted search and seizures. We have the cops tasering innocent people. We have stuck on the do not fly list who don't belong there but can't get off it. And on and on and on.
