subject:"Re\: \[FairfieldLife\] Re\: \: \"All applicants come NOW.\"\-\-Maharishi \/\& Guidelines\?"

Those weren't the kinds of records I was talking about, obviously.

Any dirt on anyone I'm sure they'd keep somewhere, even any alleged dirt.  For all we know, they probably have a database somewhere on *future* dirt, and who is most likely to be a contender.  Anything to make someone's life a little more miserable, that's our TMO.

Sal


On Aug 23, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

There is someone on the course who was asked about his involvement
with Robin Carlson. Robin Carlson was doing his thing in FF back in
1982-83. Think the TMO doesn't keep records? Better think again 'cuz
they sure as hell

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 22, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

on 8/22/06 5:25 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:00 PM, new.morning wrote:
 > 
 >> That gets to my primary point. How many are being forcefully ejected
 >> from the domes?
 > 
 > So far, I've only heard of one, but even that is too many.  He 
 > apparently wasn't doing anything except meditating.

Actually, he was doing asanas in an outer room

Well, that explains everything then, doesn't it? :)

BTW, anybody know why Yahoo, from last night on, hasn't been posting some emails?  Anybody posting from the website having the same problems?

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?


On Aug 22, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

on 8/22/06 5:25 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:00 PM, new.morning wrote:
 > 
 >> That gets to my primary point. How many are being forcefully ejected
 >> from the domes?
 > 
 > So far, I've only heard of one, but even that is too many.  He 
 > apparently wasn't doing anything except meditating.

Actually, he was doing asanas in an outer room


Well, now that explains everything then, doesn't it? :)

Sal

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-23 Thread Rick Archer

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi  /& Guidelines?

on 8/22/06 5:25 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:00 PM, new.morning wrote:
> 
>> That gets to my primary point. How many are being forcefully ejected
>> from the domes?
> 
> So far, I've only heard of one, but even that is too many.  He 
> apparently wasn't doing anything except meditating.

Actually, he was doing asanas in an outer room.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

Oh, heavens.  Now who's being paranoid, Judy?  Yeah, I'm sure somebody would want to get on a course so badly they would do that.  That's right up there with the "CIA agents" silliness.  TMO courses are just *so* important people would fake their identities to participate.  Get real.

Sal


On Aug 23, 2006, at 11:11 AM, authfriend wrote:

THINK, Sal.  Photo IDs can easily be faked, first
of all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 23, 2006, at 8:29 AM, authfriend wrote:

> It's probably not a very *good* database, but they've
> had a database ever since I learned TM in '75,
> certainly.  How do you think National was able to
> send out all those mailings?

I never got any mailings.  And around 1975 sounds about right for their 
"database."
>
>> It's simply intimidation, like I said.
>
> And you *still* haven't come up with the threat
> that you imagine they're intimidating you *with*!

Sigh.  As I already said, a power trip. And no, I don't know WHY they 
would want to do that.   But that and all the other idiocy that went on 
is the main reason most of us are no longer involved.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 23, 2006, at 8:17 AM, authfriend wrote:

>> -- It's a power trip.  And I don't think getting involved
>> in that kind of game is healthy.
>
> That's just paranoid, Sal.  The TMO has always been on
> a power trip, but SS#s aren't an example, *except* to
> verify that one is qualified to go on particular
> courses and so on, and they could certainly check that
> just by using names and dates, although with more difficulty
> and more possibility of error.  I haven't gone on a course
> in a while, so I don't know if they're still doing this,
> but they also used to ask for the name of your initiator
> when you applied for a course.  That was another way of
> checking to make sure you had actually learned TM.

Come off it, Judy.  I'd be amazed if they had records going back a few 
years, much less when someone learned TM.  The bit about the teacher's 
name is just more TMO silliness, as anyone could have made up a name.  
Tell you what...next time you apply for a course, make up some name to 
put in the initiator's blank, and see what happens--I'll bet nothing.  
(The name, of course, would have to be something that doesn't call 
attention to itself, could even be the name of an initiator, just not 
*your* initiator.)
>
> In other words, unless they were to ask for no personal
> information at all, the "intimidation" you're imagining
> would still be a factor.  The only thing about SS#s is
> that they're a very efficient means of identification.
>
>> And another point--usually when an organization asks you for one,
>> that's it.  They don't keep asking you every single time.
>
> Sure they do, in many circumstances, as a way of verifying
> you're who you say you are.  An SS# is sort of like a
> password.

"Sort of like"? I must have missed the secret handshake.
>
>   These idiots
>> just want you to know they've got something on you--again and again.
>
> Got WHAT on you??
>
>>> And again, see the AARP link, which explains why
>>> SS#s are routinely used for identification.
>>
>> I didn't see any link.
>
> There's been a lot of posting delays these days.  I
> made the AARP post before I made the one saying to
> see the AARP link, but it just appeared this morning.
>
> For the record, if I had to give them my SS# to
> go on a course these days, I wouldn't do it, even
> if it meant I couldn't go.  I don't trust them to
> keep those records secure from people who might
> use them for identity theft.

 So then you *do* think they could be used for nefarious purposes-
> -
>>>
>>> Of course.  But that's not why the TMO is asking for
>>> them, obviously.
>>
>> OK, why are they asking for them then?
>
> AS A MEANS OF IDENTIFICATION.  Sheesh!  Same
> reason so many other institutions have used them.

And a photo ID would do just as well, same reason so many other 
organizations have used *them.*  Sheesh.  (Actually, your word 
"institution" to describe the TMO, is a much better one, for obvious 
reasons.  You hit the mark.)
>
 who else besides people in the TMO would ever have access to that
 info?
>>>
>>> Not everyone in the TMO is necessarily an upstanding
>>> citizen, first of all.  Some lower-level administrative
>>> person with financial needs and no scruples might have
>>> access to a list of SS#s and get ideas.  Lists of SS#s
>>> are worth big bucks in the identity theft market.  You
>>> can sell them to brokers, who then sell them to
>>> individuals who commit the actual identity theft.
>>>
>>> Second, there are any number of ways the numbers could
>>> get to non-TMO people.  Someone could walk in a door
>>> left unlocked and steal the records; some nitwit TMer
>>> could throw a batch of unneeded printouts in the trash;
>>> a janitor could find the records sitting on someone's
>>> desk; a hacker could break into the computer system if
>>> it weren't secured properly, etc., etc., etc.
>>>
>>> This is why you don't want to have to give out your
>>> SS# if you can possibly avoid it--because they're
>>> *worth lots of money*, and even an organization
>>> with the most spotless motives can be careless about
>>> how they're handled.
>>>
>>> Knowing the level of disorganization and general
>>> incompetence in the TMO, I simply wouldn't trust them
>>> to keep the numbers secure.
>>
>> That's my point exactly.  Whether it's directly by someone with
>> some nefarious intent, or simply because some idiot gets careless,
>> you would not trust the TMO with potentially sensitive
>> information.
>
> Once again: So they're trying to intimidate people by
> suggesting that people with nefarious intent will get
> hold of your SS# and commit identity theft because
> the TMO is riddled with careless idiots?

No, that was your point--I said they did it for intimidation.  But I 
certainly agree with anyone who says the TMO is filled with a bunch of 
careless idiots--works for me. :)
>
> Sal, that was *not* your original point.  If it were,
> I'd have agreed with you instantly.  You claimed they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

And none of that applies to the TMO, as you know, Judy.  If you think they could identify Micky  Mouse by his SS #, try a little test.  Try giving them a fake one and see what happens--bet nothing will, because they've never put in place the means  to detect a fake one, probably because they don't have the brains to.  They have no "database" to speak of,  which is why they ask for it every time.  It's simply intimidation, like I said.

Sal

On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:56 PM, authfriend wrote:

The private sector also uses SSNs extensively as a means to identify 
an individual's records in a database and as an authenticator to 
confirm the identity of an individual.6 SSNs are often used by 
financial service companies to link individuals to their accounts 
and, as a result, they are highly valuable to would-be identity 
thieves.7

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>
>>> I had to supply it to my lawyer when I purchased a
>>> condo recently; the town requires it to transfer the
>>> deed.  And as I noted, a physician I went to for a
>>> flu shot asked for it as well.  It's still fairly
>>> common.

And those are routine occurrences?
>>
>> Only in your world, Judy.
>
> Uh, no, Sal.  It's still fairly common, as I said
> (and the AARP confirms).
>
>> Last time I got a flu shot I paid them 10
>> bucks and they gave me the shot.  I could have been a Martian for
>> all they cared.
>
> And that proves...what, exactly?
>
> My health insurance card, with TEIGIT, has my SS#
> on it.  I complained to them, because I can't carry
> the card in my wallet.  They said they were working
> on a new system, but it wouldn't be ready for some
> time yet.

Well, neither my health insurance card or that for my kids has any SS 
#s on it.  My driver's license used to, but they stopped that years 
ago.  I don't remember whether or not I had to give it to apply for any 
of the credit cards I've had over the years.

> I had to give my SS# to open a bank account six
> five years ago.  You have to give it on most
> credit card applications.  My landlord wanted it
> when I first rented the condo I just bought, also
> five years ago.

And these relate to the TMO how, exactly? Would you describe any of the 
above situations as routine?

I thought SS #s were used  when security issues were at stake, like 
with savings accounts and deeds, or when dealing with large amounts of 
people.  Neither of those situations applies to the TMO courses, 
especially nowadays.
>
> You didn't answer my question, Sal.  I don't think you
> have any actual threat in mind.  You just thought it
> sounded good to use the word "intimidation."

And you've proven my point for me, by admitting you wouldn't give it to 
them.  I think they know perfectly well that people, in general, don't 
like to give them out and probably never have.  I doubt they'd use them 
for anything (since to my knowledge they never actually have)-- It's a 
power trip.  And I don't think getting involved in that kind of game is 
healthy.

And another point--usually when an organization asks you for one, 
that's it.  They don't keep asking you every single time.  These idiots 
just want you to know they've got something on you--again and again.

> And again, see the AARP link, which explains why
> SS#s are routinely used for identification.

I didn't see any link.
>
>>> For the record, if I had to give them my SS# to
>>> go on a course these days, I wouldn't do it, even
>>> if it meant I couldn't go.  I don't trust them to
>>> keep those records secure from people who might
>>> use them for identity theft.
>>
>> So then you *do* think they could be used for nefarious purposes--
>
> Of course.  But that's not why the TMO is asking for
> them, obviously.

OK, why are they asking for them then?
>
>> who else besides people in the TMO would ever have access to that
>> info?
>
> Not everyone in the TMO is necessarily an upstanding
> citizen, first of all.  Some lower-level administrative
> person with financial needs and no scruples might have
> access to a list of SS#s and get ideas.  Lists of SS#s
> are worth big bucks in the identity theft market.  You
> can sell them to brokers, who then sell them to
> individuals who commit the actual identity theft.
>
> Second, there are any number of ways the numbers could
> get to non-TMO people.  Someone could walk in a door
> left unlocked and steal the records; some nitwit TMer
> could throw a batch of unneeded printouts in the trash;
> a janitor could find the records sitting on someone's
> desk; a hacker could break into the computer system if
> it weren't secured properly, etc., etc., etc.
>
> This is why you don't want to have to give out your
> SS# if you can possibly avoid it--because they're
> *worth lots of money*, and even an organization
> with the most spotless motives can be careless about
> how they're handled.
>
> Knowing the level of disorganization and general
> incompetence in the TMO, I simply wouldn't trust them
> to keep the numbers secure.

That's my point exactly.  Whether it's directly by someone with some 
nefarious intent, or simply because some idiot gets careless, you would 
not trust the TMO with potentially sensitive information.  Neither 
would I.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:

> I had to supply it to my lawyer when I purchased a
> condo recently; the town requires it to transfer the
> deed.  And as I noted, a physician I went to for a
> flu shot asked for it as well.  It's still fairly
> common.

Only in your world, Judy.  Last time I got a flu shot I paid them 10 
bucks and they gave me the shot.  I could have been a Martian for all 
they cared.
>
>> And identity theft is really not the issue,  as Judy knows,
>> that's just a diversionary tactic she is using--intimidation is.
>
> Sal, you're losing it.  I never suggested the TMO
> was collecting SS#s so it could commit identity
> theft.  How the heck did you get that idea??

Judy, you're losing it.  I never suggested you suggested the TMO was 
collecting SS#s to use them for identity theft.  Want to play 
telephone?
>
> I mentioned identity theft simply to point out that
> before identity theft became a threat, SS#s were
> routinely used for identification.

And I tried to point out that that is b*llshit, and you know it.  You 
routinely buy condos?
>
> What I don't get is why you think asking for your
> SS# would be *intimidating*.  What is it you would
> be intimidated *about*?  What would the implied
> threat be?

What exactly do you think they need them for, Judy?  To keep all the 
people who happen to have the same names and addresses when applying 
for a course separate?
>
> For the record, if I had to give them my SS# to
> go on a course these days, I wouldn't do it, even
> if it meant I couldn't go.  I don't trust them to
> keep those records secure from people who might
> use them for identity theft.

So then you *do* think they could be used for nefarious purposes--who 
else besides people in the TMO would ever have access to that info?

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

I'm pretty sure the reference is to a bar that you step over.

But the image of all those Rajas dancing around trying to get under a 
limbo bar is definitely a good one.

Sal

On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:30 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

> I've never understood the anaology of "the bar".
>
> If it is a limbo bar, then the expression would have to be "the bar
> seems pretty high", not "low" because if it was a low limbo bar,
> almost no one would be able to pass under it.  If it's "high" then
> almost anyone can pass under.
>
> So if the analogy doesn't refer to a limbo bar, what is it referring
> to?
>
> Sheltered and sequestered my whole life, I remain...Shemp McGurk.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:00 PM, new.morning wrote:

> That gets to my primary point. How many are being forcefully ejected
> from the domes?

So far, I've only heard of one, but even that is too many.  He 
apparently wasn't doing anything except meditating.

> How many are being rejected. My impression is that its
> very few. And in some, if not most cases, it kind of makes sense --
> Shivama being a good example, IMO.

I didn't find anything threatening in her letter--did you?
>
>> Doesn't any of that bother you?
>
> If only a handful are being forcefully ejected from the domes or
> rejected, and for those that are there is some pretty extreme
> circumstances behind it, I am not heavily bothered. Thats why I asked,
> how frequent are these rejections?
>
>
> I thought the days of people laying
>> guilt trips on others, while also telling them to ignore their own
>> better judgment, were over.
>
> Agreed. Per above, heavy handed recruiting / guilt-trips are so 80's.
> Quite passe.
>
>> the fact that they are asking for SS #s (or so I understood) is
>> troubling
>
> As judy has pointed out, many ask for it. I routinely refuse if its
> irrelevant. Or if that stops my application, I put in a "creative" one.
>
And Judy's argument is simply an apologia.  I have not found that many 
ask for it at all--in fact, outside of the TMO, I can't think of any 
private organization that has, and definitely not with any regularity.  
Apart from someone who said they needed it when I was thinking of 
getting a satellite dish, nobody in the last 10 years (I would guess) 
has asked me for it. (I declined on the SD.)

And identity theft is really not the issue,  as Judy knows, that's just 
a diversionary tactic she is using--intimidation is. I felt the same 
way years back when I routinely gave it to them.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

New,
It wasn't really a question of who is and who isn't being accepted 
(although I would argue that the rejection of *anyone* for any reason 
other than a fear (based on some kind of reality) that they might be 
dangerous, would a good enough reason for everyone else to stay away) 
but of Ken's contention that everyone should apply, regardless of where 
they are and what other obligations they might have...and also, that it 
should somehow not bother anyone else that people are being 
discriminated against by these rejections, forcibly ejected from the 
Domes, etc.

Doesn't any of that bother you?  I thought the days of people laying 
guilt trips on others, while also telling them to ignore their own 
better judgment, were over. I was wrong.  And I'm not sure how 
currently you mean--it's apparently happened on this course.  Also the 
fact that they are asking for SS #s (or so I understood) is 
troubling--that would rule me out immediately, as I simply wouldn't 
give it to them.  What could the reason possibly be except to 
intimidate people?  I've been on a lot of courses given by various 
organizations, and I have never been asked to give that.  What are your 
feelings?

Sal

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken,  all your silly rantings are going to accomplish is to show
> people
>>> how lucky they are *not* to be in the Domes...and castigating
> people
>>> for standing on principle by refusing to apply when others are
> still
>>> being rejected, shows an almost incredible lack of basic
> integrity.
>>>
>>> Get a life.
>>>
>>> Sal
>>
>> Hi Sal,
>>
>> Over time, I have enjoyed your posts, common sense, and sly wit.
>>
>>> people [who] stand[ing] on principle by refusing to apply when
>> others are still
>>> being rejected
>>
>> I am curious about your comment [slightly edited to hone in on the
>> point I am interested in]. Are many people being rejected
> currently?
>> Shivama seems to be quite an exceptions, perhaps a reasonable one,
> to
>> the general "rule' -- that is my impression that all but the most
>> blatant are being accepted.
>>
>> For example Rory has been and is in the domes. Perhaps he was
> posting
>> here before your time -- I don't recall your "entrance" [slinky
> black
>> cocktail dress, right? :) ].
>>
>> Rory has been accepted and per Rick, is attending the Domes. While
>> Rory is an engaging, interesting and charming guy, I like him, he
> is
>> hardly what one would call TMO mainstream.
>>
>> For example, he has a website that postulates or claims
> realization --
>> depending on which day you ask him :) 16 or 32 or some large
> number
>> of states of enlightenement -- most beyond (the apparently MMY/TMO)
>> BC. And he has expounded on, done, dabbled, or seriously pursued
> many
>> different techniques and teaqches, AFAIR. Including some sort of
>> mediumship according to his website -- and former wife (who used to
>> post here also -- Vashti). He also used to run a esoteric book
> shop,
>> and gave classes on many esoteric topics. Apparently when he was in
>> FF, he had a "following". All good and fine things in my book. But
> not
>> your typical TMO TBer.
>>
>> So if Rory is being accepted, then the bar seems pretty low
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-22 Thread kenwoodfx




You did not understand what I have written.Still that is not reason for you not to be more polite.Doesn`t matter.Bye.Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ken,  all your silly rantings are going to accomplish is to show people  how lucky they are *not* to be in the Domes...and castigating people  for standing on principle by refusing to apply when others are still  being rejected, shows an almost incredible lack of basic integrity.  Get a life.  Sal  On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:28 AM,
 kenwoodfx wrote:  >  If you don`t, or don`t want to understand what I meant, then it`s  > also your decision. > Those who want to understand, will understand. If someone doesn`t  > want, it is also OK. > Anyway, I have tried to explain it to you, in my previous reply. > For some time, I will not lose my time. > You, and everyone else can write whatever you want. > I had a good will to inspire more people to come in the Dome. > Everyone will choose for themselves what they like. > Let it be. > I wish you all the best. > > > > dhamiltony2k5  wrote:--- In  > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> >> >>  wrote: Is this the 'SIMS Shuffle' ? >>  -JohnY
 >> >>  > >>  > >>  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx  wrote: >>  > > >>  > > It is, as anything else an individual decision. >> >>  Doug writing, yes a beautiful example of TM.movement non-answer. TM- >>  Movement-Speak. >>  Part of the deal here is that we do live together in this community >>  and how the Tmorg acts and thinks does influence a lot of people >>  here, our friends and neighbors. To just dismiss the real and say >>  it is all an individual decision begs the question: >>  > What would >>  > you suppose they would have to do in order to bring a more >>  > significant number of people back? Would they come back? >>  > Start with round numbers, a million TM meditators
 taught in the >>  US, >>  > with >>  > some tens of thousands of TM teachers taught, some tens of >>  thousands >>  > people taught the TM0-sidhis (27K?); and a few hundreds show up >>  when >>  > called. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 >>  > >>  > A lasting peace and reconciliation? Reconciling the numbers, what >>  > would the TMOrg need do to reconcile >>  > with its people? It had got pretty ugly in recent years, what could >>  > the elements of a lasting peace and reconciliation for the TMorg >>  > with its meditators? >>  > >>  > With Kind Regards, >>  > >>  > -Doug in FF >>  > >> >>  This question above,
 what say the tru-believer reading the list? >>  Have they no thot on this? How do the insiders going to the domes >>  see it going? How about a defender of the faithful speaking for >>  them? A public defender? What do they see it taking to bring a >>  significant number back? >> > > Do you Yahoo!? >  Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

Ken,  all your silly rantings are going to accomplish is to show people 
how lucky they are *not* to be in the Domes...and castigating people 
for standing on principle by refusing to apply when others are still 
being rejected, shows an almost incredible lack of basic integrity.

Get a life.

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On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:28 AM, kenwoodfx wrote:

>  If you don`t, or don`t want to understand what I meant, then it`s 
> also your decision.
> Those who want to understand, will understand. If someone doesn`t 
> want, it is also OK.
> Anyway, I have tried to explain it to you, in my previous reply.
> For some time, I will not lose my time.
> You, and everyone else can write whatever you want.
> I had a good will to inspire more people to come in the Dome.
> Everyone will choose for themselves what they like.
> Let it be.
> I wish you all the best.
>
>
>
> dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:--- In 
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>  wrote: Is this the 'SIMS Shuffle' ?
>>  -JohnY
>>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx  wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > It is, as anything else an individual decision.
>>
>>  Doug writing, yes a beautiful example of TM.movement non-answer. TM-
>>  Movement-Speak.
>>  Part of the deal here is that we do live together in this community
>>  and how the Tmorg acts and thinks does influence a lot of people
>>  here, our friends and neighbors. To just dismiss the real and say
>>  it is all an individual decision begs the question:
>>  > What would
>>  > you suppose they would have to do in order to bring a more
>>  > significant number of people back? Would they come back?
>>  > Start with round numbers, a million TM meditators taught in the
>>  US,
>>  > with
>>  > some tens of thousands of TM teachers taught, some tens of
>>  thousands
>>  > people taught the TM0-sidhis (27K?); and a few hundreds show up
>>  when
>>  > called. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974
>>  >
>>  > A lasting peace and reconciliation? Reconciling the numbers, what
>>  > would the TMOrg need do to reconcile
>>  > with its people? It had got pretty ugly in recent years, what could
>>  > the elements of a lasting peace and reconciliation for the TMorg
>>  > with its meditators?
>>  >
>>  > With Kind Regards,
>>  >
>>  > -Doug in FF
>>  >
>>
>>  This question above, what say the tru-believer reading the list?
>>  Have they no thot on this? How do the insiders going to the domes
>>  see it going? How about a defender of the faithful speaking for
>>  them? A public defender? What do they see it taking to bring a
>>  significant number back?
>>
>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-22 Thread kenwoodfx




If you don`t, or don`t want to understand what I meant, then it`s also your decision.Those who want to understand, will understand. If someone doesn`t want, it is also OK.Anyway, I have tried to explain it to you, in my previous reply.For some time, I will not lose my time.You, and everyone else can write whatever you want.I had a good will to inspire more people to come in the Dome.Everyone will choose for themselves what they like.Let it be.I wish you all the best.dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].>   wrote: Is this the 'SIMS Shuffle' ? -JohnY  > >  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx  wrote: > > > > It is, as anything else an individual decision.   Doug writing, yes a beautiful example of TM.movement non-answer. TM- Movement-Speak.   Part of the deal here is that we do live together in this community  and how the Tmorg acts and thinks does influence a lot of people  here, our friends and neighbors.  To just dismiss the real and say  it is all an individual decision begs the question: > What would > you suppose they would have to do in order to bring a more > significant number of people back? Would they come
 back? > Start with round numbers, a million TM meditators taught in the US, > with > some tens of thousands of TM teachers taught, some tens of thousands > people taught the TM0-sidhis (27K?); and a few hundreds show up when > called. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 > > A lasting peace and reconciliation? Reconciling the numbers, what > would the TMOrg need do to reconcile > with its people? It had got pretty ugly in recent years, what could > the elements of a lasting peace and reconciliation for the TMorg > with its meditators? > > With Kind Regards, > > -Doug in FF >  This question above, what say the tru-believer reading the list? Have they no thot on this? How do the insiders going to the domes see it going? How
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2006-08-22 Thread kenwoodfx




It is, as anything else an individual decision. You, and everyone else decide for yourself what you will do, where you will go or not, whether you will go in the dome or not, whether you will trust and follow your teacher, who gave us such a tremendously great knowledge. Do we really understand what he has given us? It all goes naturally, everything goes naturally, there is no reason to worry about it. Don`t wait for anyone else to be more perfect, but decide for yourself to become more perfect, and then the environment will be more perfect, too.  Decide what you want, and enjoy in that freedom of choice.  If you want to come in the dome, then come.  Drop by drop, the ocean will be full. dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Ken, a defender of the faith. Thanks for coming out. It is good to have the more purist take also here. Ken, I posted a question the other day and there were really no takers. Could you take a try?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/109126what say the tru-believer reading the list?Have they no thot on this? How do the insiders going to the domessee it going? How about a defender of the faithful speaking forthem? A public defender? What do they see it taking to bring asignificant number back?-Doug in FF--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote:>> Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your pure source, and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you will be more happy and better in every way. Still there is time for that.> > Peter ...> wrote: > > --- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote:> > > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that,> > but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome> > in this important time in world history.> > People who wants to do good will not think like> > that.> > Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason,> > and should come and do good for the world, not> > thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for> > his
 existence.> > Ken ,you mood making twit. Do you have an original> thought. Seems like you lost your balls a long time> ago. How's your yoni? MMY has been beating this silly> drum for decades (are you new canon fodder or> something?). Next you'll be telling us that the> pundits will come if we just squeeze our butt checks> together hard enough. Ahh. Wonderful rajasic outburst> for the day! I can't stand these mood-making, Capital> fops that have ruined the movement with there> sing-songy little girl voices wearing their light tan> suits and so terrified of aggression or asserting an> original thought. The greatest irony is that you are> MMY's curse and you don't even know it. > > ..., 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-21 Thread kenwoodfx




No, dear friend, I don`t think that you or anyone else here are fallen creatures.I have respect for your experiences, however they have been in the past.I just like that everyone who wants come in group flying in the Dome, because it is proven helpfull for collective and individual consciousness, but I also respect everyone who, for any reason, does not want.Everyone here is clever, and knows to choose what is best for him in each moment.I just like that everyone is happy and friendly to others.All the best.curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Nicely said Chaim Laib.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "chaim_laib" ...> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx  wrote:> >> > Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your> pure source, and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you> will be more happy and better in every way. Still there is time forthat.> > Kenwoodfx> > The way you come across, though seemingly sweet, nice, concerned,> parental, is also sanctimonious, better-than, I have the answer and> you people are fallen creatures-however you want to word it. It is not> helpful. > > There are and have been many
 people who have given up many, many > years of their adult lives livng life the TM/Maharishi way, and who> found that the intended result you speak of was not happening in their> lives and the longer they stayed invoved the worse their lives got. > > I'm sure you, and others, will have the party line answer for this> (unstressing). Give us credit for being adults and able to make up our> own minds based on our own experience in life.> > Chaim Laib> > > > > > Peter > wrote: > > > > --- kenwoodfx  wrote:> > > > > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that,> > > but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome> > > in this important time in world history.> > > People who wants to do good will not think like> > > that.>
 > > Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason,> > > and should come and do good for the world, not> > > thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for> > > his existence.> > > > Ken ,you mood making twit. Do you have an original> > thought. Seems like you lost your balls a long time> > ago. How's your yoni? MMY has been beating this silly> > drum for decades (are you new canon fodder or> > something?). Next you'll be telling us that the> > pundits will come if we just squeeze our butt checks> > together hard enough. Ahh. Wonderful rajasic outburst> > for the day! I can't stand these mood-making, Capital> > fops that have ruined the movement with there> > sing-songy little girl voices wearing their light tan> > suits and so terrified of aggression or asserting an> > original thought.
 The greatest irony is that you are> > MMY's curse and you don't even know it. > > > > __> > Do You Yahoo!?> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -> > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> >> 
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Instructions are good, but people`s lives could, and should be better.Programme influence life, but life also influence programme.Better life, better programme, and vice versa.Don`t worry, be happy and live always good, and have a nice, blissful TM-Sidhi programme and Yogic Flying.Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kenwoodfx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..>  wrote: > >  >  > Altough you
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No, dear friend, I don`t think that you or anyone else here are fallen creatures.I have respect for your experiences, however they have been in the past.I just like that everyone who wants come in group flying in the Dome, because it is proven helpfull for collective and individual consciousness, but I also respect everyone who, for any reason, does not want.Everyone here is clever, and knows to choose what is best for him in each moment.I just like that everyone is happy and friendly to others.All the best.chaim_laib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: > > Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your pure source, and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you will be more happy and better in every way. Still there is time for that.  Kenwoodfx  The way you come across, though seemingly sweet, nice, concerned, parental, is also sanctimonious, better-than, I have the answer and you people are fallen creatures-however you want to word it. It is not helpful.   There are and have been many people who have given up many, many  years of their adult lives livng life the TM/Maharishi way, and who found that the intended result you speak of was not happening in their lives and the longer they stayed invoved the worse their lives got.   I'm sure you,
 and others, will have the party line answer for this (unstressing). Give us credit for being adults and able to make up our own minds based on our own experience in life.  Chaim Laib  >  > Peter ...> wrote:   >   >  --- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: >   >  > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, >  > but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome >  > in this important time in world history. >  > People who wants to do good will not think like >  > that. >  > Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason, >  > and should come and do good for the world, not >  > thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for >  > his existence. >   >  Ken ,you mood making twit. Do you have an original >  thought. Seems
 like you lost your balls a long time >  ago. How's your yoni? MMY has been beating this silly >  drum for decades (are you new canon fodder or >  something?). Next you'll be telling us that the >  pundits will come if we just squeeze our butt checks >  together hard enough. Ahh. Wonderful rajasic outburst >  for the day! I can't stand these mood-making, Capital >  fops that have ruined the movement with there >  sing-songy little girl voices wearing their light tan >  suits and so terrified of aggression or asserting an >  original thought. The greatest irony is that you are >  MMY's curse and you don't even know it.  >   >  __ >  Do You Yahoo!? >  Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around  >  http://mail.yahoo.com  > 
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Nice post, Rick.All the best.Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:on 8/20/06 8:08 AM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:  > Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your pure source,  > and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you will be more happy  > and better in every way. Still
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-20 Thread Rick Archer

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi  /& Guidelines?

on 8/20/06 8:08 AM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your pure source, 
> and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you will be more happy 
> and better in every way. Still there is time for that.

Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Luke... Luke... do not... do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor or suffer your father's fate you will. Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be. Luke, the Force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned, Luke. There is... another... Sky... walker.”

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-20 Thread Rick Archer

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi  /& Guidelines?

on 8/20/06 6:13 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This implies that Maharishi does not know exactly what is going on, 
> which is a rather naive thought in my opinion. The "destruction" of 
> the Movement was obviously a willed and nesessary process.  

It least you acknowledge it has been destroyed. And why do you feel this was necessary?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-20 Thread Sal Sunshine

Are they still asking for it?

Sal

On Aug 20, 2006, at 8:13 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:

> Would you trust these people with your social security number?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

2006-08-20 Thread Peter

Okay ;-)

--- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just
> come in your pure source, and all the impurities
> will simply go away. Just then you will be more
> happy and better in every way. Still there is time
> for that.
> 
> Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>  
>  --- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>  > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for
> that,
>  > but that is not a reason for not coming in the
> Dome
>  > in this important time in world history.
>  > People who wants to do good will not think like
>  > that.
>  > Everyone who is invited is invited with good
> reason,
>  > and should come and do good for the world, not
>  > thinking about what small ego says, being afraid
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Mistakes you make, wrong words, wrong thinking. Just come in your pure source, and all the impurities will simply go away. Just then you will be more happy and better in every way. Still there is time for that.Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com> wrote: > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, > but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome > in this important time in world history.
> People who wants to do good will not think like > that. > Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason, > and should come and do good for the world, not > thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for > his existence. Ken ,you mood making twit. Do you have an original thought. Seems like you lost your balls a long time ago. How's your yoni? MMY has been beating this silly drum for decades (are you new canon fodder or something?). Next you'll be telling us that the pundits will come if we just squeeze our butt checks together hard enough. Ahh. Wonderful rajasic outburst for the day! I can't stand these mood-making, Capital fops that have ruined the movement with there sing-songy little girl voices wearing their light tan suits and so terrified of aggression or asserting an original thought. The greatest irony is that you are MMY's curse and you don't even know it.
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2006-08-19 Thread Peter

--- kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that,
> but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome
> in this important time in world history.
> People who wants to do good will not think like
> that.
> Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason,
> and should come and do good for the world, not
> thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for
> his existence.

Ken ,you mood making twit. Do you have an original
thought. Seems like you lost your balls a long time
ago. How's your yoni? MMY has been beating this silly
drum for decades (are you new canon fodder or
something?). Next you'll be telling us that the
pundits will come if we just squeeze our butt checks
together hard enough. Ahh. Wonderful rajasic outburst
for the day! I can't stand these mood-making, Capital
fops that have ruined the movement with there
sing-songy little girl voices wearing their light tan
suits and so terrified of aggression or asserting an
original thought. The greatest irony is that you are
MMY's curse and you don't even know it. 

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On Aug 19, 2006, at 5:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

> I had a fantasy about the story told here a week or so ago about the
> fellow who was in the Dome but the security guards came and, without
> incident, escorted him out.  Remember that one?

Yep.
>
> Well, in my fantasy, when the guards come up to him (he's already in
> full lotus position with his eyes closed), he says to the
> guards: "well, I'm in here now and I'm not leaving.  If you'd like
> to talk with me outside after program and tell me why I won't be
> allowed back in in the future, that's fine.  But I ain't budging
> now...and if you want a very ugly incident, just try laying a finger
> on me.  Now, I'm in bliss so kindly fuck off!"

If he'd had any guts, that's what he would have said.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

Ken, I think you must have forgotten to take your regular 
Anti-Sanctimonious Crap Pills today.  Please do so immediately.

Sal


On Aug 19, 2006, at 4:30 PM, kenwoodfx wrote:

> You don`t have good intentions.
> I said that what I thought is that if someone is rejected, it is not a 
> reason for OTHERS not to come.
> Begin to do good for yourself and for others.
>
> Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Rick, I had a friend who almost did that, a number of years ago. She
> got to the Dome a few minutes late, had gone to a lot of trouble to get
> there, and was seriously ticked. So she stood outside the doors,
> yelling, "Open up, you b*tches, open up!" It worked. :)
>
> Boy, would I have loved to have been there for that one. Talk about
> vicarious thrills.
>
> Sal
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > on 8/19/06 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> > reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world
> > history.
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> > “Rejected” means you can’t go in the dome. What are they supposed to
> > do, break down the door? __._,_.



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You don`t have good intentions.I said that what I thought is that if someone is rejected, it is not a reason for OTHERS not to come.Begin to do good for yourself and for others.Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rick, I had a friend who almost did that, a number of years ago.  She got to the Dome a few minutes late, had gone to a lot of trouble to get there, and was seriously ticked.  So she stood outside the doors, yelling, "Open up, you b*tches, open up!"  It worked. :)Boy, would I have loved to have been there for that one.  Talk about vicarious thrills.SalOn Aug 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:> on 8/19/06 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>> > reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world > history.>> Rejected means you cant go in the dome. What are they supposed to > do, break down the door?  __._,_.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/  
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Dear Rick, I wanted to say that if someone is rejected it is not a reason for OTHERS not to come in this important time.Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:on 8/19/06 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:Rejected means you cant go in the dome. What are they supposed to do, break down the door?  

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Rick, I had a friend who almost did that, a number of years ago.  She 
got to the Dome a few minutes late, had gone to a lot of trouble to get 
there, and was seriously ticked.  So she stood outside the doors, 
yelling, "Open up, you b*tches, open up!"  It worked. :)

Boy, would I have loved to have been there for that one.  Talk about 
vicarious thrills.

Sal

On Aug 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> on 8/19/06 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world 
> history.
>
> “Rejected” means you can’t go in the dome. What are they supposed to 
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You didn`t understand, or you intentionally write it wrong.Read again what I said.If some is rejected, it is not a reason for OTHERS not to come in the Dome.Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Being rejected from the course isn't a reason to not go in the Domes?   I'd say it's a pretty darn good reason--what is that person supposed to  do...bring their own security guards?  BTW, what flavor Kool-Aide was it you drank today?  Sal  On Aug 19, 2006, at 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx wrote: 
 >  If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, but that is not a  > reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world  > history. > People who wants to do good will not think like that. > Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason, and should come  > and do good for the world, not thinking about what small ego says,  > being afraid for his existence.  
  
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Thank you, dear friend.Jai Guru Devnablus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: > > Do not listen these little voices thinking on who`s winning or who`s  loosing. > Everyone is winning when more and more people come to fly together in  the Dome. > This is time for open heart and mind for everyone, this is time for  togetherness, friendliness and broad and
 universal vision. > The world is asking us to do the most possible for the world peace. > We are those who know that, and we will do the best with our  knowledge which we got from our Master and our Holy Tradition. > Come everyone, and let us do the best what we can for our world.  Every sane voice is very welcome here on this strange forum kenwoodfx.  I congratulate you !  
  
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What is robotic in my post?Don`t you see that want that more and more people come to fly together?chaim_laib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: > > If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world history. > People who wants to do good will not think like that. > Everyone
 who is invited is invited with good reason, and should come and do good for the world, not thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for his existence. >   That is pure double-talk. You must be a robot.  chaim_laib ...> wrote:  This is not the right venue to post your nice thought. It should be >  going over to the Capital of the Age of Enlightenment-they are the >  ones who are doing the rejecting. >   >  Your attitude is the very one people complain about---"we're the great >  ones" except when we reject and ban all those who follow their own >  personal nature. >   >  Chaim L. >   >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx  wrote: >  > >  > Do not listen these little voices thinking on
 who`s winning or who`s >  loosing. >  > Everyone is winning when more and more people come to fly together >  in the Dome. >  > This is time for open heart and mind for everyone, this is time for >  togetherness, friendliness and broad and universal vision. >  > The world is asking us to do the most possible for the world peace. >  > We are those who know that, and we will do the best with our >  knowledge which we got from our Master and our Holy Tradition. >  > Come everyone, and let us do the best what we can for our world. >  >  >  > Rick Archer  wrote: >  on 8/19/06 12:44 PM, chaim_laib at chaim_laib@ wrote: >  >   >  >   >  >  >  >  > Rick >  >  >  >  >  > Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a >  victory, > 
 >  > for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick >  >  > Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly >  >  > get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return >  >  > of the Prodigal Son."   >  >  >  >  >  > You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice >  >  > that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but >  >  > wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from >  Amma and >  >  > going back to your TM mantra?  >  >  >  >  >  > You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your >  >  > program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the >  >  > overall grand scheme of world peace? >  >  >  >  > 
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Being rejected from the course isn't a reason to not go in the Domes?  
I'd say it's a pretty darn good reason--what is that person supposed to 
do...bring their own security guards?

BTW, what flavor Kool-Aide was it you drank today?

Sal

On Aug 19, 2006, at 4:01 PM, kenwoodfx wrote:

>  If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, but that is not a 
> reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world 
> history.
> People who wants to do good will not think like that.
> Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason, and should come 
> and do good for the world, not thinking about what small ego says, 
> being afraid for his existence.

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If someone is rejected, there is a reason for that, but that is not a reason for not coming in the Dome in this important time in world history.People who wants to do good will not think like that.Everyone who is invited is invited with good reason, and should come and do good for the world, not thinking about what small ego says, being afraid for his existence.chaim_laib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is not the right venue to post your nice thought. It should be going over to the Capital of the Age of
 Enlightenment-they are the ones who are doing the rejecting.  Your attitude is the very one people complain about---"we're the great ones" except when we reject and ban all those who follow their own personal nature.  Chaim L.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kenwoodfx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote: > > Do not listen these little voices thinking on who`s winning or who`s loosing. > Everyone is winning when more and more people come to fly together in the Dome. > This is time for open heart and mind for everyone, this is time for togetherness, friendliness and broad and universal vision. > The world is asking us to do the most possible for the world peace. > We are those who know that, and we will do the best with our knowledge which we got from our Master and our Holy Tradition. > Come
 everyone, and let us do the best what we can for our world. >  > Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 8/19/06 12:44 PM, chaim_laib at [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: >   >   >  >  > Rick >  >  >  > Why would you even bother at this point? It would seem like a victory, >  > for the Capital, and one they could use to their benefit, "See, Rick >  > Archer agreed to do things out way" kinda thing. It would certainly >  > get lots of tongues wagging. You could be the representative "return >  > of the Prodigal Son."   >  >  >  > You've made personal choices in your life, you are doing a practice >  > that works for you. If acquiescing would work for you, so be it, but >  > wouldn't it mean no longer using the mantra you received from Amma and >  > going back to your TM mantra?
  >  >  >  > You don't think your two hours (or however much time) per day in your >  > program is contributing (if one believes this line of thought) to the >  > overall grand scheme of world peace? >  >  >  > "To thine own self be true."  >  > -W. Shakespeare >  >  >  > "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay >  > centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate." >  > -Chuang Tsu >   >  I concur with what you said, and thanks for the nice quotes. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario, which will actualize when pigs fly, in which the course office would decide not to concern themselves with people's lives any longer. So if that happened and I did end up going I don't think people would see it as a victory for the old way of doing things. But as you say, I enjoy my practice as it is, so
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