[Finale] Text Expression Designer
FinMac 2006: In Text Expression Designer, Line Spacing seems to be unavailable. It's in the Text menu, not grayed out, but doesn't work. I'm pretty sure it was there in Fin 2005. Can anyone confirm? John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] MusicXML missing?
Hi all, Just tried to export a Finale 2006 file to MusicXML, and I got an error dialog: Files cannot be imported or exported through MusicXML because the necessary file MusicXML.dll could not be found in the Component Files directory. You must reinstall the missing file from your Finale CD to use this feature. The DLL file *is* in my Fin2006 Component Files directory, so I don't know what Finale is complaining about. Any ideas? (Slightly annoying in this context: Previous Finale versions included a separate Dolet installer on the CD. Fin2006 does not, nor does it offer this as a separate installation option under Custom installation. So to reinstall MusicXML, I'd have to fully reinstall the Finale app, and after the time I've spent setting up my customizations, I'm not sure I want to do that.) Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Autosave
On 7 Oct 2005 at 15:39, Carl Donsbach wrote: --On Friday, October 07, 2005 3:49 PM -0400 David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Oct 2005 at 13:31, Carl Donsbach wrote: The problem I have with autosave is that it is a substitute for a good habit. When I look at my undelete program's list of available file versions to recover, I have more BAK and MUS versions than ASV versions. That means I'm manually saving more often than the Autosave. So, I have good habits. Sorry, David, I hope that's not how you read me - I never said or meant to imply that you didn't have good habits. My observation is about the software, the way it is marketed, and the way too many people use it. I didn't think you were criticizing me at all. I was just saying that I think Autosave is a good thing even when you *do* have what you call good habits precisely because the backup systems we rely on to save ourselves from problems often fail together. While I Ctrl-S all the time, I'm glad that the Autosave file is there in the event that I might sometime need it. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: PHP Midi Class and Inaccurate Durations
This completely off-topic to Finale, but I'm trying to find someone who uses PHP and is familiar with MIDI files, and this is one forum where it's possible someone like that may be reading. I'm using aa PHP class written by someone else to calculate durations of MIDI files on a webpage and it's producing inaccurate results. The class is available here (free registration): http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1362.html or here (without registration but without showing the source code for the demos, which you can't see unless you download the class): http://staff.dasdeck.de/valentin/midi/ The problem is that the class is returning inaccurate durations for these two files: 8:04 duration calc'd as 7:09 http://www.dfenton.com/Midi/MozartK581Arr/MozartK581ArrD.mid 6:54 duration calc'd as 19:59 http://www.dfenton.com/Midi/FoersterOctet/FoersterOctetA.mid Now, for one, the class returns seconds, and I'm dividing that by 60 to get minutes, but if I run the files through the demo site: http://dasdeck.de/staff/valentin/midi/duration.php and take the results (in seconds) and divide by 60, I get the same incorrect answers. So, it seems the problem is within the class, and not in my code that converts the seconds to an HH:MM:SS format. Does anyone have the expertise to look into this? I will start digging, I guess, but the class itself is something I know how to use as a black box, but not something I understand the internals of. If you have any pointers for trying to figure it out, I'd also be interested. I don't want to bother the creator of the class until I've determined whether I'm doing something wrong with it or not. Could there be something weird about these particular MIDI files that could be causing the problem? -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
Hi Johannes, I know a few people that are very happy with this at least for mastering...I haven't tried it myself yet but I will be. See what you think: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/ -K On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I know this is not really the place, but after all the complaining about Fin2k6, I have just encountered something a lot worse: The latest Bias Peak 5. Just got it two days ago. It actually is a downgrade in functionality, making it completely unusable for the classical editing and mastering I have done with Peak for years. With the previous versions I have edited several CDs. With Peak 5 this is completely impossible. This is by far the worst application update I have ever paid for, and I paid a lot for it, as the German distributor asks for the same amount in Euros, as the amount in US, which is a really bad deal for an anyhow overpriced upgrade. Wow. I don't think I have been so upset in years! Thank God for Finale, at least it's unlikely they do such a major strip down in features. This would be like stripping Finale of MassEdit functionality. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Staff Style Query
Hello, there. I'm working on a piece, and some of the stuff I have to do to get the chords input is ... distracting when doing playback (to check for errors, mostly). I've heard there's a ways to set up a staff style for No Playback, but am not certain how. I'm using FinWin 2004a, and have looked through the 'manual' and had no luck. Any clues? cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Missing dll files
Hi all, I have finally installed FinaleWin 2005 and now it says it is missing a couple of dll files. Also, it won't shut down properly. Questions: Where do I find the missing files? Why didn't Finale install them? Why can't I exit the normal way? (Windows 2000 SP4) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Printing in the OS 9.2 environment
Got a new inkjet. Installed it. It shows up as the printer in a print request in both Word and Finale, but when I send the request, the printer's light flashes once but does not print. Can anybody help: MAC G4, Canon Pixma iP1600. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? Thanks, Dean ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Test
Nothing received 8th or 9th Oct. Am I un-subbed? K Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/124 - Release Date: 7/10/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] System numbers?
Seem to have disappeared since I updated the default files. As anyone else seen this? Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/~music/faculty/howey.html Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fin2006 opaque expression bug
Hi all, Can anyone confirm that a text expression with an opaque background does not cover up notes and rests? I'm seeing this in WinFin2006, though it also seems to exist in WinFin2004. (I'm doing a score that includes spoken word during GP measures. I did each line as a text expression with a frame and opaque background. When I place the expressions in the score, they do blot out the staff lines behind them, but not the rests. Changing to real rests doesn't help, and the same thing happens if I place the expression over notes.) And does anyone have a workaround? Text blocks don't seem to let me do a frame *or* an opaque background, so they're rather useless. Only thing I can think of is to create each one as a graphic and import it, and that's a big pain in the rear. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Gary Garritan
I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Fin2006 opaque expression bug
Hi all, I've found a workaround for the problem I reported earlier. I just need to apply the Blank Notation staff style to the measures under my text expression. This gets rid of the rests, and the opaque expression covers up the staff lines. (Actually, what I did was define my own blank notation style called Foo, because then before I extract parts I can either undefine the style (by setting all the options back to default) or I can do 'clear staff style foo' in FinaleScript. This gets those measures to display properly in parts without disturbing other measures I want to keep blank. Hey, this is the first thing I've actually found a use for FinaleScript for!) Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] WinFin06 missing plugin?
Hi all, This may seem like a stupid question, but did the Text Search Replace plugin accidentally get left out of WinFin2006? I don't see it in the plugin menus of either of my 2006 installations. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] test
The shsu site says I am still subscribed but I have received nothing for two days. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MusicXML missing?
Aaron-- Before installing a new version of the Dolet PI, it's necessary to uninstall the old one. I'll make sure that is more clear in the installer. Also, check your Finale folder. I believe the installer puts the Dolet installer somewhere in there. On 10/8/05 11:50 AM, Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: Hi all, Just tried to export a Finale 2006 file to MusicXML, and I got an error dialog: Files cannot be imported or exported through MusicXML because the necessary file MusicXML.dll could not be found in the Component Files directory. You must reinstall the missing file from your Finale CD to use this feature. The DLL file *is* in my Fin2006 Component Files directory, so I don't know what Finale is complaining about. Any ideas? (Slightly annoying in this context: Previous Finale versions included a separate Dolet installer on the CD. Fin2006 does not, nor does it offer this as a separate installation option under Custom installation. So to reinstall MusicXML, I'd have to fully reinstall the Finale app, and after the time I've spent setting up my customizations, I'm not sure I want to do that.) Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Missing dll files
Where do I find the missing files? A google search should answer this question. Why can't I exit the normal way? Are all of your drivers updated? --Allen On 10/9/05 10:47 AM, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: Hi all, I have finally installed FinaleWin 2005 and now it says it is missing a couple of dll files. Also, it won't shut down properly. Questions: Where do I find the missing files? Why didn't Finale install them? Why can't I exit the normal way? (Windows 2000 SP4) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style Query
On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:10 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Hello, there. I'm working on a piece, and some of the stuff I have to do to get the chords input is ... distracting when doing playback (to check for errors, mostly). I've heard there's a ways to set up a staff style for No Playback, but am not certain how. I'm using FinWin 2004a, and have looked through the 'manual' and had no luck. Any clues? I'm not certain exactly what you are trying to accomplish here. Is it chord SYMBOLS you don't want to play back? There are two much easier way to accomplish this than staff styles (which I don't even know if it is possible.) 1) This method is the easiest, and is global for the entire piece, all staves. With the chord tool selected, go to the Chord menu. The last item should be Enable chord playback. Uncheck it. This is my normal work habit, since chord playback is horrendous for jazz symbols. The MIBAC rhythm section generator plugin gives reasonable chord symbol playback for my purposes, and is light-years ahead of Finale's builit-in playback. 2) This is for single staves only, assuming you might WANT chord symbol playback in some other staves. In the Instrument List window, click on the triangle to the left of the staff that you want to affect. The second to last item is Chords, so click on the green box to deselect it. If you just have a passage in one staff where you don't want chord playback, this is a little more complex, but doable. Just for that passage, attach the chords to a layer that you are not using for anything else in that staff, say layer 4. If everything is already entered, there is a Copy/Move Layers option in the Mass Edit tool. In the Instrument List, set Layer 4 not to play back for that staff in the same way as method 2 above. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style Query
On 08/10/05, Carl Dershem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a piece, and some of the stuff I have to do to get the chords input is ... distracting when doing playback (to check for errors, mostly). I've heard there's a ways to set up a staff style for No Playback, but am not certain how. I'm using FinWin 2004a, and have looked through the 'manual' and had no luck. You actually don't need to use staff styles to turn off chord playback. If you go to the Instrument List, you can click the arrow on the left-hand side of the staff with chords and mute only the chords layer for that staff. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Missing dll files
At 10/9/2005 11:47 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: I have finally installed FinaleWin 2005 and now it says it is missing a couple of dll files. Also, it won't shut down properly. Questions: Where do I find the missing files? What are their names? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin06 missing plugin?
On 09/10/05, Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may seem like a stupid question, but did the Text Search Replace plugin accidentally get left out of WinFin2006? I don't see it in the plugin menus of either of my 2006 installations. I don't actually have the answer, but FinaleScript is supposed to be able to do that. Maybe MM! removed it from the plug-ins menu to force people to figure out FS if they haven't tried it yet. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Silence will save me from being wrong (and foolish), but it will also deprive me of the possibility of being right. ~ Igor Stravinsky ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
On Oct 8, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? Trills, single note tremolos, and octave tremolos are all quite easy and effective on xylophone. Single-note tremolos are perhaps the most common, but you may like one of the others better for your purposes, so I couldn't really give you an answer that you are guaranteed to like. My best advice is to try all three when the player is there with the band, then choose one and edit the part afterward. I find that the octave I choose makes a difference, too, so experiment with that as well. Different octaves than the winds makes the xylo pop out more, while the same octave makes it mix in more, but once again, you have to hear it to decide. The notation of a tremolo on a single note is with three diagonal slashes, attached to the stem of the note (or below for whole notes.) This is found in the Articulation set of every music font I've seen. In the Engraver default it is slot 32, metatool 8. Tremolos on octaves are more complex to notate, which is why I use TG Tools tremolo maker! It is amazing and beautiful. Basically, if you are doing this manually, you have to get the upper and lower notes WITH THEIR FULL VALUES EACH (as a tuplet, say two whole notes in the space of one whole, no number or bracket) into the bar, and almost connect where the stems would have been if they were half notes with three diagonal slashes. You have to see it to understand, as it is too complex to explain here, and there is a lot of manual futzing around to do. The TG Tools website shows some excellent examples. Trill marks are best entered with the Smart Shape tool. I usually set Music Spacing to take articulations into account, so the Articulation trill causes bad results for me when I extend it. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MusicXML missing?
At 12:09 PM 10/10/2005, Fisher, Allen wrote: Before installing a new version of the Dolet PI, it's necessary to uninstall the old one. I'll make sure that is more clear in the installer. I don't entirely understand. Are you saying that I have to uninstall the one from 2004 before installing the one from 2006? And if so, how will I import into 2004 files which I export from 2006? Also, check your Finale folder. I believe the installer puts the Dolet installer somewhere in there. Yes, I see it now, thanks. But Finale is complaining that it can't find the DLL, and the DLL is already where it needs to be. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style Query
On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: I've been using notes (usually the root of the chord) to 'anchor' the chord sybols to, and would like those notes to be quiet. I've tried rests, but can't anchor chords to them. Huh? I've been anchoring chord symbols to rests ever since I started using Finale (3.2). The only time this is ineffective is when using stemmed slashes (rhythmic notation), so I just copy the bass notes for those purposes. That way I don't get my stupid pitch choices (or lack of choices!) muddying the playback. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Chuck and Hiro... I also have a (small) association with Gary, and I find him to be 100% sincere in his desire to make his tools available to as many people as possible. Additionally, while Gary proposes to a large extent, Tom Hopkins is the one who disposes. Tom is the programming wizard that translates Gary's visions into viable products. His programming of the samples is nothing short of brilliant. Together, they are a formidable team!! Jim Williams (known as Snorlax on the GPO and Finale Forums) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chuck Israels Sent: Mon 10-Oct-05 11:15 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale winmail.dat___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
At 9:04 AM -0700 10/8/05, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? You might want to add suspended cymbal, which does this very well. On the xylophone you actually have 3 choices: rolling on one pitch, trilling normally to the pitch above (which I assume your woodwinds are doing), and the octave roll. If you can, try all 3. Tremolo on a whole note is indicated with 2 whole notes and three strokes between them (although to save time and trouble I often imply write the two notes and use the 3-stroke tremolo indication). John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
By the way, For those interested in the kind of results that are possible with GPO, check out the new Comparison of real orchestra to Personal Orchestra file on GPO's home page: http://www.garritan.com/ - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 12:15 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] shameless self-promotion
Thought the list might like to know that a piece of mine, and an interview with me, will be aired on BBC-4 radio next month. The Beeb is doing a 5-part series for the bicentennial of the periodic table, and they plan to play my A Periodic Table of the Elements as part of it all, and to interview me about the piece. In addition, apparently, they plan to use bits of my music for filler or intro on all five programs. The programs will be aired on Nov. 7-11 at 3:45 PM GMT (wh. I think is 10:45 AM EST--but don't take my word for it), and can be heard online at www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 . Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin06 missing plugin?
At 12:29 PM 10/10/2005, Brad Beyenhof wrote: I don't actually have the answer, but FinaleScript is supposed to be able to do that. Yes, it can, but one of the included scripts says: //NOTE: TSAR is also available as a separate Plug-in in Plug-ins--Miscelleneous This is where it was in 2004, but not 2006. And the web site still talks about it. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
On Oct 8, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? There's a terminology problem here, because if the xyl. is trilling on one pitch, then it is not trilling at all. If the winds are also doing that, then they are flutter-tonguing--but I suspect you want real trills in the winds. If so, why not have a real trill in the xyl. as well? And if you want a bright, intense, loud, shimmering sound, I would recommend glockenspiel instead of xylophone. Give it a real trill to play, just like the winds, and if you want you can even give it two simultaneous trills an octave apart, w. a pair of sticks in one hand playing the main pitch and a pair in the other hand playing the auxiliary notes. (You can do the same on the xyl. if you want.) tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? Should you decide to do this, then you should notate two whole notes in the place of one with a diagonal triple beam in the space between them. There is a shape-expression available for the beams. The whole tremolo can be created in a single step by using the Tremolos plugin from TGTools. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Chuck Israels / 2005/10/10 / 12:15 PM wrote: Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. Yes, but not for this GPO Jazz Lib release, which is almost done printing. The way how I got hooked up with Gary was that he hired Brian C Peters (see under Sonic Studio / Metric Halo section of the same page) to capture impulse convolution. Brian uses Metric Halo hardware, and I have also been heavily involved with them for years :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: MusicXML missing?
Hi Aaron, As you have discovered, the error message is wrong. What it really is complaining about is that it can't find the version of Java that the MusicXML functions need. Usually rebooting your machine after installing Finale will fix this. There's no need to uninstall any earlier versions of the Dolet plug-in from earlier versions of Finale. As Allan mentioned, the Finale 2006 installer should be putting a DoletLight.exe file in your Finale 2006 directory. This is the installer for repairing an installation in case you do need to uninstall and reinstall. The only time you should need to do that is if you didn't have Java 1.4 or 5.0 on your machine before installing Finale. If this doesn't help, please let us know what version of Windows you are using. Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC www.recordare.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: PHP Midi Class and Inaccurate Durations
I tried the class with some files made by me (and I mean completely created form scratch using a program I made) and the result came out right. You could try to open the MIDI files with a sequencer, export them again as MIDI files and try the class again. I have found that Finale does funny things with MIDI sometimes. Hope you find the solution! This completely off-topic to Finale, but I'm trying to find someone who uses PHP and is familiar with MIDI files, and this is one forum where it's possible someone like that may be reading. I'm using aa PHP class written by someone else to calculate durations of MIDI files on a webpage and it's producing inaccurate results. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: MusicXML missing?
At 01:26 PM 10/10/2005, Michael Good wrote: As you have discovered, the error message is wrong. What it really is complaining about is that it can't find the version of Java that the MusicXML functions need. Aha! Usually rebooting your machine after installing Finale will fix this. My machine has been rebooted several times since I installed Finale, so that's not it. uninstall and reinstall. The only time you should need to do that is if you didn't have Java 1.4 or 5.0 on your machine before installing Finale. Yes, that's it. This is a virgin install of WinXP. I don't follow the Java wars much, but I do remember a flap a few years ago when MS decided not to include Java by default. I've downloaded and installed Java, and now I can install Dolet. I would suggest that when the Dolet installer is run as part of the Finale install, it should give the same error message about missing Java that it does when I just ran it now, along with instructions on how to install Dolet after Java has been installed.I would also suggest that when the Dolet installer is run standalone, it should have a dialog at the end to indicate completion -- it installed so quickly I almost missed it. Thanks for your help. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Missing dll files
Hi Allen, The missing dlls are hp.dll, fpa.dll, smartmusicmarkers.dll and textsearchreplace.dll. I don't think I'll find those on the internet. Where do I find them on the cd? Finale closed down normally today, so there must have been something strange going on yesterday. The dll's are still missing today however. My drivers are up to date, yes. Barbara - Original Message - From: Fisher, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Missing dll files Where do I find the missing files? A google search should answer this question. Why can't I exit the normal way? Are all of your drivers updated? --Allen On 10/9/05 10:47 AM, Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: Hi all, I have finally installed FinaleWin 2005 and now it says it is missing a couple of dll files. Also, it won't shut down properly. Questions: Where do I find the missing files? Why didn't Finale install them? Why can't I exit the normal way? (Windows 2000 SP4) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: PHP Midi Class and Inaccurate Durations
On 10 Oct 2005 at 18:41, Javier Ruiz wrote: I tried the class with some files made by me (and I mean completely created form scratch using a program I made) and the result came out right. But the results *are* right on many of my other files (though it's off by a second or two compared to what some of the programs I have say about the lengths of the files) -- the problem is that it's inaccurate on *some* files. You could try to open the MIDI files with a sequencer, export them again as MIDI files and try the class again. I have found that Finale does funny things with MIDI sometimes. That's what I suspected, but saving them in a sequencer doesn't make a difference -- the results are still wrong. I guess I am going to have to dig into the class to see where it's producing the erroneous information. Thanks for looking at it, though. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: PHP Midi Class and Inaccurate Durations
I opened one of your files with Finale and many bars with non common time signatures appeared. Like 17/16... Maybe the PHP class has a bug. On 10 Oct 2005 at 18:41, Javier Ruiz wrote: I tried the class with some files made by me (and I mean completely created form scratch using a program I made) and the result came out right. But the results *are* right on many of my other files (though it's off by a second or two compared to what some of the programs I have say about the lengths of the files) -- the problem is that it's inaccurate on *some* files. You could try to open the MIDI files with a sequencer, export them again as MIDI files and try the class again. I have found that Finale does funny things with MIDI sometimes. That's what I suspected, but saving them in a sequencer doesn't make a difference -- the results are still wrong. I guess I am going to have to dig into the class to see where it's producing the erroneous information. Thanks for looking at it, though. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2006 opaque expression bug
Probably what is happening is that the notes are drawing after the expression. Try attaching the expression to the following system so that it will print after the notes. BF Aaron Sherber wrote: Hi all, Can anyone confirm that a text expression with an opaque background does not cover up notes and rests? I'm seeing this in WinFin2006, though it also seems to exist in WinFin2004. (I'm doing a score that includes spoken word during GP measures. I did each line as a text expression with a frame and opaque background. When I place the expressions in the score, they do blot out the staff lines behind them, but not the rests. Changing to real rests doesn't help, and the same thing happens if I place the expression over notes.) And does anyone have a workaround? Text blocks don't seem to let me do a frame *or* an opaque background, so they're rather useless. Only thing I can think of is to create each one as a graphic and import it, and that's a big pain in the rear. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: PHP Midi Class and Inaccurate Durations
On 10 Oct 2005 at 19:56, Javier Ruiz wrote: I opened one of your files with Finale and many bars with non common time signatures appeared. Like 17/16... That would be correct -- it's my way of introducing out-of-time phrase breaks for playback. Maybe the PHP class has a bug. Well, some of the files that the PHP class delivers correct timings for have those odd time signatures, too, and, in fact, the Foerster Octet oughtn't have any of those, because that MIDI file dates to before I started adding small values to my time sigs to put in space between phrases. So, I really don't think that should be the issue at all. As I said, I'll have to dig into the inner workings of the class and see what I can find out. The first thing will be to figure out which tracks it's thinking are longer than they are, and then see if I can figure out why. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
I tried, but after waiting for the spinning wheel to stop for about 2 min., I gave up. Hope it was worth it. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: By the way, For those interested in the kind of results that are possible with GPO, check out the new Comparison of real orchestra to Personal Orchestra file on GPO's home page: http://www.garritan.com/ - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 12:15 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
Excellent info, many thanks. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? Trills, single note tremolos, and octave tremolos are all quite easy and effective on xylophone. Single-note tremolos are perhaps the most common, but you may like one of the others better for your purposes, so I couldn't really give you an answer that you are guaranteed to like. My best advice is to try all three when the player is there with the band, then choose one and edit the part afterward. I find that the octave I choose makes a difference, too, so experiment with that as well. Different octaves than the winds makes the xylo pop out more, while the same octave makes it mix in more, but once again, you have to hear it to decide. The notation of a tremolo on a single note is with three diagonal slashes, attached to the stem of the note (or below for whole notes.) This is found in the Articulation set of every music font I've seen. In the Engraver default it is slot 32, metatool 8. Tremolos on octaves are more complex to notate, which is why I use TG Tools tremolo maker! It is amazing and beautiful. Basically, if you are doing this manually, you have to get the upper and lower notes WITH THEIR FULL VALUES EACH (as a tuplet, say two whole notes in the space of one whole, no number or bracket) into the bar, and almost connect where the stems would have been if they were half notes with three diagonal slashes. You have to see it to understand, as it is too complex to explain here, and there is a lot of manual futzing around to do. The TG Tools website shows some excellent examples. Trill marks are best entered with the Smart Shape tool. I usually set Music Spacing to take articulations into account, so the Articulation trill causes bad results for me when I extend it. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
It's just an MP3 file. You can control-click (or right-click) to download to your desktop. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 3:35 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I tried, but after waiting for the spinning wheel to stop for about 2 min., I gave up. Hope it was worth it. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: By the way, For those interested in the kind of results that are possible with GPO, check out the new Comparison of real orchestra to Personal Orchestra file on GPO's home page: http://www.garritan.com/ - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 12:15 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] shameless self-promotion
Andrew Stiller wrote: Thought the list might like to know that a piece of mine, and an interview with me, will be aired on BBC-4 radio next month. The Beeb is doing a 5-part series for the bicentennial of the periodic table, and they plan to play my A Periodic Table of the Elements as part of it all, and to interview me about the piece. In addition, apparently, they plan to use bits of my music for filler or intro on all five programs. The programs will be aired on Nov. 7-11 at 3:45 PM GMT (wh. I think is 10:45 AM EST--but don't take my word for it), and can be heard online at www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 . Wow, that is great, Andrew! Did they say anything about how they heard about your music? I think it's wonderful that you'd get such large exposure! Here's hoping you get some additional performances from people who listen to the program and try to find out who wrote the music for the filler and intro. Congratulations! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestration Question (OT)
Very good, thanks. Yes, I didn't mean trilling on one pitch, you are correct. What I had in mind there was a rapid alternation of strokes on one bar, say, 32nd notes, or the tremolo between octaves. I've now had some excellent alternatives proposed, so I shall have to think them through. Thanks again, Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm finishing a piece for Wind Ensemble. I want a bright, intense, loud shimmering unison (or octaves) in the upper winds on a trill. In adding some perc. to this sound, I'll have the triangle on a trill and would like to add a xylophone trilling on the same note as the winds. Question: Can a xylophone create the sound I want trilling on one pitch, or would it be more effective on a tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? There's a terminology problem here, because if the xyl. is trilling on one pitch, then it is not trilling at all. If the winds are also doing that, then they are flutter-tonguing--but I suspect you want real trills in the winds. If so, why not have a real trill in the xyl. as well? And if you want a bright, intense, loud, shimmering sound, I would recommend glockenspiel instead of xylophone. Give it a real trill to play, just like the winds, and if you want you can even give it two simultaneous trills an octave apart, w. a pair of sticks in one hand playing the main pitch and a pair in the other hand playing the auxiliary notes. (You can do the same on the xyl. if you want.) tremolo an octave apart? If the later, how do I notate the tremolo on a whole note? Should you decide to do this, then you should notate two whole notes in the place of one with a diagonal triple beam in the space between them. There is a shape-expression available for the beams. The whole tremolo can be created in a single step by using the Tremolos plugin from TGTools. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Ah, thanks. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's just an MP3 file. You can control-click (or right-click) to download to your desktop. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 3:35 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I tried, but after waiting for the spinning wheel to stop for about 2 min., I gave up. Hope it was worth it. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: By the way, For those interested in the kind of results that are possible with GPO, check out the new Comparison of real orchestra to Personal Orchestra file on GPO's home page: http://www.garritan.com/ - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 12:15 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2006 opaque expression bug
At 03:04 PM 10/10/2005, Burt Fenner wrote: Probably what is happening is that the notes are drawing after the expression. Try attaching the expression to the following system so that it will print after the notes. Yes, WinSupport just suggested something similar. I don't like this workaround for several reasons, not least of which is that I then lose the expression's auto-positioning capabilities. Also, while in my case I don't need the expression to print in parts, if I *did* want it to appear in parts, this workaround would make me go into each part and adjust the position of each expression, which is not good. I think the workaround I posted (blank notation staff style) gives a better result. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
On 08.10.2005 Karen wrote: Hi Johannes, I know a few people that are very happy with this at least for mastering...I haven't tried it myself yet but I will be. See what you think: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/ Karen, this seems to be a plugin, not an application, no? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Well, I'm ashamed to say it, but I can hardly tell the difference. Other than that, after having played around with Fin/GPO for a couple of months, I must say that the person creating that GPO version knows a hell of a lot more than I do about manipulating Finale, or whatever he used. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's just an MP3 file. You can control-click (or right-click) to download to your desktop. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 3:35 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I tried, but after waiting for the spinning wheel to stop for about 2 min., I gave up. Hope it was worth it. Dean On Oct 10, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: By the way, For those interested in the kind of results that are possible with GPO, check out the new Comparison of real orchestra to Personal Orchestra file on GPO's home page: http://www.garritan.com/ - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 12:15 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi Hiro, Yes, Gary does seem to be a very cool guy. I am getting to know him and the guys that work with him and find them to be working hard to make things that are useful and practical and not too expensive. I am glad to have some association with the GPO Jazz Library and am eager to get a copy, so I can get a little closer to a good sketch sound with my scores. Gary called from NY yesterday where he had recorded ambient sound at the Village Vanguard for the jazz library. He was grateful for the opportunity to do that, and I think that indicates a pretty good level of care about getting as close to the sounds we are used to hearing as he can. Sometimes a few of the little guys get something good accomplished. Chuck On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:30 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just met Gary Garritan at AES NYC. He was nominated for Tech Award. Very cool guy (and well dressed - hard to find in audio engineer cloud!). Not a very good photo, but just in case you are interested in: http://www.a-no-ne.com/music/aes/2005/#gpo -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Gary Garritan
Dan Kury used Digital Performer to create this demo. I imagine it would be theoretically possible to do something like this directly in Finale, but it would take an awful lot of work. I also discovered that Andy Brick http://www.andybrick.com/ home.html is the person who created the GPO Finale Edition demos on MakeMusic's website. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Oct 2005, at 4:36 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Well, I'm ashamed to say it, but I can hardly tell the difference. Other than that, after having played around with Fin/GPO for a couple of months, I must say that the person creating that GPO version knows a hell of a lot more than I do about manipulating Finale, or whatever he used. Dean ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Weird bug?
Here's a new one, at least for me. Anyone else seen this before? I'm working on a large score, layout is updated but not locked (I usually don't lock anything until final layout). When I print out p. 103 by itself, there's one more measure on the page than appears on screen. When I print p. 104 by itself, it's the same as it appears on screen. If I print both pages at the same time, p. 103 still has the extra measure, and now p. 104 follows it with measures in the proper sequence.(i.e., shifted one measure to the right compared to on screen). This is easy enough to work around by locking p. 103, but I wonder if this is a known problem. I'm on Fin2k4a. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
Hi Johannes, Yes, it is a plugin but it works with Garageband. -K On Oct 10, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 08.10.2005 Karen wrote: Hi Johannes, I know a few people that are very happy with this at least for mastering...I haven't tried it myself yet but I will be. See what you think: http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/ Karen, this seems to be a plugin, not an application, no? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
On 10.10.2005 Karen wrote: Yes, it is a plugin but it works with Garageband. Peak is a mastering application, and the problems are with editing, not with plugins or DSP. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
Johannes Gebauer / 2005/10/11 / 06:20 PM wrote: Peak is a mastering application, and the problems are with editing, not with plugins or DSP. I left Peak at version 3, when its auth crapped out on me on stage at Umbria Jazz Festival. Of course my auth copy was at hotel. I was so pissed at that time. I heard Peak got much better by version 4, but I always had a problem with its narrow image and less detailed sound up until version 3. I then moved to Spark, which sounded much better but the product was killed because of its piracy. Illegal copy of Spark around the net killed the product. TC couldn't justify keeping Spark alive. Sad. I am then moved to DSP-Quattro: http://dsp-quattro.com The creator of this application was one of the key engineers who designed Spark. DSP-Q sounds as good as Spark, wide and detailed. And price is just too right, $150!! I am a mixing engineer (when I am not playing flute nor composing) and not a mastering engineer. I only need these apps for CD finalizing for low budget clients. Otherwise I sent out to mastering house as the way should be. If I were a real mastering engineer, I would need at least Sonic Solution (now SonicStudio) and not to mention mastering room (this is the main problem!). -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: A much worse upgrade than Fin 2k6
Hi Johannes, I'm familiar with Peak. But I guess I'm looking at editing, processing and mastering as separate things. Ozone is a mastering plug-in. But it sounds like Peak is still covering that part of it for you. Sorry for the headaches you are having with the Peak upgrade. Best, Karen Peak is a mastering application, and the problems are with editing, not with plugins or DSP. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
