Delayed messages
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Steve, if this gets delayed via Mongolia again, please post for me on your list.. Apparently my mail server that I go through (when sending a message) doesn't like angus.mystery.com very well and is delaying my messages to Steve's list. The system that Steve uses, angus.mystery.com is on my systems (Hughes.net) grey list and the automatic programs have to verify a lot of stuff before it is released. The system that I use, Hughes.net sometimes gets put on other systems bad list (grey list, black list) too. I can remember when Yahoo and AOL would not forward messages to the other. My last message, to Steve's list, was delayed by the system quite a while.. Steve and I have been going through the technicalities of the messages trying to figure out why the delays. There IS NO CENSORSHIP or moderation of my messages on Steve's part.PERIOD. Fred FjordIssues list owner.. PS..just wiped a big wet smooch out of my ear.give with love from my Meeracle (Miracle) gelding. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Postings.
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" This comment was made by our former trainer: . Number one this mare was not breed illegally nor behind anyone's back.Both parties involved had an agreement before the mare was ever bred and yes I was promised the foal .. We, Lois and I would be willing to take a lie detector test to attest to the fact that this is not completely true. She was denied permission to breed our mare to her stallionTWICE .. PERIOD. I have outlined why we reneged on the promise to let her have the foal. We didn't want a foal from her sire until big problems (and great expense) occurred with recovery of our horses. We had planned to breed her the following year to a Canadian stallion. In our former trainer's own words.. the mare Joline was owned by us. Written to Mike May BEFORE our settlement and after the foal was born. If there was any agreement, why was it not presented in mediation? Ownership of the foal was never discussed. Why? Because the owner of the mare owns the mare's offspring. The fact that she wanted the mare for herself does not make it fact. Tis not us who needs forgiveness! Our dispute with her is OVER settled. I did not break the disparagement clause first. SHE did. "Mr. Pack is under court order to not talk about me as he has a way of distorting the facts and lashing out. He did not pay his bills. So please keep this off the list as it is nobodys [SIC] business." May 16, 2011. I had let her remain on MY list until them. There is NO court order. It is part of the agreement. Settlement was April 19, 2011 I have done my best to just present facts without disparagement or even naming her or her business. We have honored the agreement. Someone else even tried to claim our foal and register her herself... I wonder who? Lois trusted her and tried to give her every chance and benefit of the doubt. . Our big mistake. The truth lies not in fantasy, but fact. Playing the victim in this case won't work. This is the last I will ever say of the PRIOR dispute between us, but I will not allow a fantasy to stand as fact. My beef is with the registry, not with our former trainer. I hope this doesn't take 11 hours to clear Steve's filters. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Missing messages...technical stuff but good information
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Steve and I have been sending (back and forth) some technical data regarding messages. At least two messages were lost somewhere in cyberspace. We took apart the message sent by Curtis. The tech data shows it WAS sent to this list as well as mine. For some unknown reason, I never got it nor has it shown up in the archives. Messages are sent to the archive server automatically and for another unknown reason, it is not there. We were unable to determine what happened to Ellen's message... it just got lost. It could be her iPad somehow. Her messages to my list come through OK. Some prior posts have noted similar non-postings of sent messages. No server, or system is fail-safe. There was NO censorship. It was a poor choice of words. You may note that my last message that appeared on this list took over 24hours from sent to posting. Steve took that message apart to try and figure out what took so long. End result, we don't know, but we tried. Hats off to Steve for trying to resolve the situation... Fred Yahoo FjordIssues Group owner. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/fjordissues/ BTW, I alert all my new members to Steve's list for more resource information. The better we ALL are informed, the happier our Fjords will be All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Is Steve's list being censored?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Where is Ellen's original message to this fjordhorse list? It is not in the archives either. Where is Curtis' reply on this list? It is also NOT in the archives. The only message in the archives is this reply from Ruth Bushnell with a subject of "registries and Strange symbols". Also searched by date yields no results. Is the fjordhorse list being censored?? I had nothing to do with Ellen posting her message. Let's see if THIS comes through on Steve's list. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: "ruth bushnell" -- From: > I wrote this email before, in HTML and it didn't get through. So here's the plain text version. I'll post it to the other Fjord list too, to see if it gets through. >>. Registries get to make their own rules. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH..Sent to me by our vet to get important word out..
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" (Fred's note: We are located in what is called the Enumclaw Plateau, SE of Seattle and W of Tacoma in the Cascade Mountain foothills) This is from ACVIM, the guru's guru when it comes to horse diseases (American College Veterinary Internal Medicine) Our local vet supply is sold out of rhino vaccine and its the worst thing you can do: READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH I am currently treating a horse from Ogden with neuro signs. I have consulted with several of my ACVIM colleagues, including Maureen Long at Florida State (who has probably treated as many of these cases as anyone), and have followed all the discussion on the ACVIM list serve. Here is my answer to your question: Following exposure to a horse with confirmed neuropathogenic EHV-1 by nasal swab PCR (whether that horse is simply febrile or febrile/neurologic, all horses should be temp'd 2x daily for 14 days. If such an exposed horse develops a fever, then NSAID treatment should be initiated immediately (500 mg flunixin BID) and the horse should have a nasal swab obtained. If the owner can afford it, I would recommend initiation of anti-viral therapy at that time. The recommended regimen now is 30 mg/kg Valacyclovir TID x 3 days. At the end of 3 days, if the horse is afebrile, then reduce to 20 mg/kg BID x 10 days. The cost for the entire regiment will be in the area of $2500 - the best price I have found is at Wall Mart pharmacy. Alternatively, the horse can be monitored and maintained on NSAID's. If neurologic signs develop, then anti-viral treatment can be initiated at that time. Most of the horses in the current EHV-1 incident are developing fevers and NOT going on to develop neurologic signs. There are ACVIM diplomates who would argue that the valacyclovir in febrile/non-neurologic horses is not indicated as there is no way to predict which febrile horses will go on to develop EHVM (clinical signs of CNS involvement). In my mind, and based on all that I have read, there is no down side (other than cost) of initiating valacyclovir at the onset of fever, and several clinicians report that early intervention with anti-virals leads to better outcomes. Having watched enough horses over the years succumb to fatal EHVM, I am hard pressed not to initiate potentially helpful therapy early in the course of disease. Bottom line: treatment of horses infected with neuropathogenic EHV-1 is in large part empirical, there simply have not been enough cases with uniform treatment to make hard and fast recommendations. In my opinion, under no circumstances should horses potentially exposed to neuropathogenic EHV-1 be vaccinated or recieve immunostimulants. Dr Bob Campbell Enumclaw, Wa Freds note: Doctor Bob has been our vet for years and is the vet for most of the major breeding/racing stables in our area. Forwarded with permission.. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
EHV-1 update
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Thanks Ray for the posting to my list. In the interest of getting the word out ASAP, I am cross-posting this to Steve's list. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 On Behalf Of Ray Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:00 PM Subject: EHV-1 update >From the Arizona Back Country Riders web site (azbcr.com) Newst update... The information below was provided to us directly, by each state veterinarians office. Although there is considerable speculation about additional cases in some states, it does take time to confirm positive reports before anything can be announced in an official capacity. The following notices will only be updated as we continue to receive e-mails from state veterinarian offices. California- The CA Dept. of AG was able to confirm that as of 9 am. this morning they have ten positive horses. Information to date suggests they were all at the Utah event. Colorado- Two confirmed cases of EHV-1 in two Colorado horses, that competed at the NCHA Western Nationals in Ogden, Utah. Further investigation is underway. Six additional horses exposed are showing clinical signs of EHV-1. Horses in four counties (Boulder, Larimer, Mesa and Weld) are under hold/quarantine orders and being investigated for disease. Colorado State Universitys Veterinary Teaching Hospital is now restricting non-emergency equine and camelid patients as a precaution to prevent exposing the facility to EHV-1. Connecticut- No exposed or diseased horses have been traced to Connecticut at this time. Delaware- No horses from Delaware have been exposed at this time. Florida- No exposed or diseased horses have been traced to Florida at this time. Georgia- There are no known exposed or positive animals in Georgia. Idaho- In Idaho, two horses that were in attendance at the Ogden, Utah event have died. Five other horses are currently under veterinary care. Laboratory confirmation of EHV-1 is pending. At least 26 Idaho horses were entered in the event. Illinois- Illinois had two owners and two horses participate at the Utah event. One horse returned to Illinois on 5/8. It is under current observation and is clinically normal. The second horse is currently stabled out of state, is under current observation, and is clinically normal. Kentucky- Information/recommendations we are making available to the public can be found on our web page at www.kyagr.com/statevet/equine/index.htm. Kentucky has no horses reported to be exposed to the outbreak. Louisiana- Louisiana had one owner with three horses that attended the Western Nationals. All horses are isolated and under a veterinarians observation since Saturday, May 14. There are asymptomatic as of now. Maine- The state of Maine did not have any horses that attended the Utah event. Maryland- Maryland does not have any horses listed as having attended the Utah event. There are no EHV-1 investigations, links or events in Maryland at this time. Michigan- There are no known exposed horses in Michigan. Missouri- Missouri only had one horse that attended the Utah event. It is now isolated and is being temped twice a day.- Taylor Woods, Missouri State Veterinarian Montana- Sixteen horse owners and 30-35 horses from Montana attended the Utah event, but no cases of the disease have been reported in the state, per a Montana Dept. of Livestock press release. Nebraska- We have five owners and five horses involved. All quarantined as of 10:30 am CST today. No symptoms yet and temping twice a day. Two of them exhibited at a local cutting show in Kearney, Nebraska, four days after attending Utah event. Nevada- Thirteen horses attended the NCHA Western National Championship. Nevada has provided information to all owners that attended the Utah event and advised them to monitor horse temperatures and to practice quality bio-security measures. We have not detected the disease within our state, yet. No additional movement requirements have been established due to the current situation. New Jersey- A horse farm in Colts Neck, Monmouth County was quarantined after six horses contracted EHV-1 in early April, before the Utah event. The quarantined has since been lifted. New York- At this time there are no known exposed horses in New York. We advise all animal owners to be extremely cautious when returning from fairs and other competitions. Returning livestock should always be isolated from the rest of the herd for three weeks whenever possible.- David Smith- NYS Dept. of Agriculture and Markets North Carolina- No horses from North Carolina have been exposed at this time according to a call from COSDA this afternoon. North Dakota- North Dakota has two horses listed that attended the Utah event, but they are both under the same owners name. The owner has been contacted and we are in the process of estab
WSU closed to inbounds except emergencies..
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Important Announcement about Equine Herpes The Washington State University Veterinary Teaching Hospital is entering a period of voluntary isolation for equine and camelid patients. This is in response to a patient that was confirmed to be shedding Equine Herpes Virus type 1 (EHV-1). In the past week there have been 2 confirmed cases of EHV-1 in Colorado in horses that competed at the National Cutting Horse Association Western National Championships in Ogden, Utah. A horse admitted to the Washington State University Veterinary Teaching Hospital for evaluation of unrelated problems was found to have competed at the show. Subsequent diagnostic testing confirmed that the horse was positive for EHV-1. Due to the potential for spread of the virus, access to the VTH is currently restricted. During this time, no new equine or camelid patients may be admitted to the hospital except for critical emergencies. It is expected that the period of isolation will last at least 2 weeks. There are currently no horses exhibiting signs of EHV-1 at WSU.Equine Herpes Virus does not affect cattle, sheep, goats, pigs or birds, and the remainder of the VTH remains open. There is no risk of transmission to people. Source: http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vth/announcements/index.aspx All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Additional information RE: Equine Herpes Outbreak...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" >From an area Fjord owner Teresa: http://blogs.equisearch.com/horsehealth/2011/05/15/washington-state-universi ty-vet-school-ehv-virus-cutting/?utm_source=facebook <http://blogs.equisearch.com/horsehealth/2011/05/15/washington-state-univers ity-vet-school-ehv-virus-cutting/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=sn&utm_camp aign=eph> &utm_medium=sn&utm_campaign=eph Here is a post from this weekend. A horse treated at the WSU veterinary hospital that had been to the show was tested and was positive for this EHV Neurologic form. So they have put themselves on voluntary isolation. My friend Jasmine looked at the entry list for the cutting show and saw that Washington State horses entered were from Anacortes, Bremerton, Woodinville, Issaquah, North Bend, and Methow. There is a link in the article to more information about the disease. Teressa All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
A wonderful Fjord tail
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" I saw this on Steve M's list and note it was also addressed to my list. It never showed up within Yahoo so I am printing it here as a courtesy.. Yahoo has been having troubles lately with group messages... You are welcome Bonnie... Fred FjordIssues list owner -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of morrisshado...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:58 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com; fjordiss...@yahoogroups.com Subject: A wonderful Fjord tail This message is from: morrisshado...@aol.com Hello Everyone! Just had to share today's Fjord story.I just got done giving a lesson to a young lady who is mentally challenged. She was so ecstatically happy just to be able to brush a horse. When she got on one of our sweet Fjord mares( Rosie). She could not stop laughing! So of course it was contagious and everyone at the barn could not stop laughing with her! What a fun day. She is now going to be coming every week to ride. We had to stop every few steps, because all she wanted to do was hug her Fjord and laugh! Gotta get out and finish planting my garden the sun is shining! Bonnie Morris WA Washington it is not raining! (snip) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Death of Fairacres Sonja
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Dear Gwenn, Words will never be able to express our heartfelt sympathy Beautiful Sonja will never really leave you...she will always have a home in your heart... Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: Gwenn Berard Beaupre My beloved, loyal and honest Sonja has gone from our lives. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
FW: Oregon SB 262 (Horse Bill)
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Sorry for the double posting This was supposed to go to my FjordIssues Yahoo list.. Lois and Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: my "Lang"
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Dear Debby, I could re-publish some of the great poems and sayings about a loss but nothing will really help right now When your time comes, "Langster" will be waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge. Cherish the memories of giving and receiving the love between you. You tried your best Don't dwell on "what if's" All of us will carry part of your pain. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: "Debby" I lost my Langster yesterday. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
In Henry's memory
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" REMEMBER ME When you hear the thunder remember me for those are my hoof beats upon your heart deep in the night. Do not fear the lightning and remember me for my hooves strike sparks so you may see in your darkest hour. And when the rain falls remember me for those are my tears of joy as I run with the sky herd free of rein and heavy burden. Look up and remember me for you will see the shape of my head thrown high among the clouds, warmed by the sun but even more because you remember me. R.I.P. Henry Heather, if you were nearbyI would wrap my arms around you and try to carry some of your emotional burden. Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE:
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK... I BROKE IT INTENTIONALLY. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL GET THE SAME BUG THAT LINDA HAS... I SENT HER A PRIVATE MESSAGE All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Linda Lehnert Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:56 AM To: REMOVED BY ME... Subject: This message is from: Linda Lehnert http://yuteriy. tripod.com/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Do NOT click on the link from Lyn
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Her email account has been hacked. I sent her a private message that hopefully will get to her, not the spammer... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of LYN NEWMAN Subject: This message is from: LYN NEWMAN http://batucada web.com.ar/default.php I BROKE THIS LINK SO IT CAN NOT BE CLICKED ON... FRED _ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Young Gelding and Herding Pups for Sale
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Carol, One of my herd is Bushwhacker's Honi Blondee, a gentle mare. She has her dam's temperament and fine lines. A beautiful and trustworthy mare. Here is a short link for Honi's (the dam) pedigree... http://tinyurl.com/27jjmu9 Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 . This message is from: Carol Pastore Hello I received your email and wanted to ask you if you can give me any information about Bushwhackers Honi? I saw this name listed on your email. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Spammer messages appearing on lists and private mail...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Marie's Yahoo account has been hacked... I sent a private message to her Yahoo address but it may only end up with the hackers. NEVER< NEVER Guys, I really don't think I'd click on the links in these recent messages that don't have any other content. This seems really fishy to me. --DeeAnna . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
KRIS' EMAIL ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINKS SUPPOSEDLY FROM KRIS... -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of kjmartin...@msn.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 7:28 AM To: kathlee...@msn.com; da...@funshinefinance.comcastbiz.net; dper...@gci.net; dutchm...@yahoo.com; eve...@portofanacortes.com; fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com; franyet...@comcast.net; funinthesundriv...@earthlink.net; glow...@juno.com Subject: This message is from: LINK DISABLED.. http://oking3vh. webs.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Purina Horse food recall STRATEGY
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" http://www.petproductnews.com/headlines/2010/04/19/purina-recalls-horse-and- poultry-feeds.aspx All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Posted for Jen Frame
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Hello Fred, it's Jen Frame here, hoping to prevail upon your generosity! yesterday evening I had the extreme good fortune of meeting Bernice Ende, the Lady Long Rider, as she journeyed from Wimberly Texas towards Llano Texas. You may remember that a few years ago she got a lame Fjord named Essie Pearl, to be her pack horse on her Long Riding journeys. Bernice healed the abscesses in Essie's feet, and Essie has become a much beloved (and totally sound!) companion to Bernice. In a tragic accident a few weeks ago, Bernice's riding horse Honor was killed. Now Bernice is making the journey from Texas to Minnesota and then on to Montana with only one horse: her Fjord Essie Pearl. This makes the going sow, and Bernice ends up having to walk most of the way. She is very much wanting another Fjord. Her wish is to be given a tall gelding by some generous Fjord breeder who realizes the wonderful potential for publicity both about the Fjord breed in general, and that breeder's particular breeding business also. Everywhere Bernice and Essie Pearl go, people stop and are amazed by Essie. They want to know what kind she is, where Bernice got her, etc. Bernice prefers riding smoother horses like her beloved Honor who just died, but realizes the WOW factor that a pair of Fjords would give all the people who she meets. I feel incredibly blessed to have met Bernice. She inspires people to give. When I knew where she would be, I took great joy in packing up our truck full of horse food, hay, food for her dog, food for her, and equipment to "camp" along the road with her for just an evening to bask in her delightful inspirational personality. Bernice is a Fjord carried ambassador of love and integrity. I hope that as a group, the Fjord owners of America can gather their energy and good will to find Bernice the second Fjord that she wants. Ideally, this Fjord would be in Texas, or close to Texas, so we can somehow haul him to her easily. But I'm sure that we could find a way to haul a Fjord from far away too. We could all donate money towards this. She will be in Llano for 2 days. She has no cell phone, but can check e-mail at the library. And if we can pull this together quickly, I can drive on out to Llano and meet with her at the Fair Grounds where she will be camped, and help make arrangements with her. Please post this e-mail Fred, to your group and to the other Fjord group. I would be so grateful. If anybody needs to call me, I can be reached on my cell phone (415) 637-5157. Lets keep her inspirational journey going! She hopes to be given a Fjord that is trained to ride and drive, but will accept one that isn't. She plans to take time to train him to the ways of the road and long riding, before hitting the road with him. She is an incredible woman, and any Fjord would be lucky to join her odyssey. I fell madly in love with her Fjord Essie Pearl who is so sweet and gorgeous, and happy! Thanks so much, Jen Frame All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Laminasaver
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Robin, I used Laminasaver and the companion product Inflammasaver on one of my minis that foundered badly. I used it in conjunction with Cortaflex liquid. It pulled her thru and now she is sound. Go to the archives of this list: FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw type in laminasaver. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 . This message is from: Robin Churchill Has anyone used the product LaminaSaver? . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: New videos posted....small brag
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Hi Jean, I sent this message via the web, rather than my email program... it never made it to the board: Hi Jean, Both are judged on time and accuracy (hitting any cones causes a penalty). Joline and Bonnie have been in dressage at the Happs competitions but no dressage at ML. I was looking for all the results in the Herald, but only Blue Earth was posted. I do not know of anyplace else where results are available yet. Bonnie's intern, Gabriella... a lovely Swiss lady took the videos for us. She did a great job with an unfamiliar camera. Hopefully the next show will be held a Happs and we can go personally. Lois could not have handled the long drive to Moses Lake. David Van Hoof was going to try and have the results posted on the PNFPG site. DAVID Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stable Wilkeson, Washington On Oct 10, 2009, jern...@mosquitonet.com wrote: This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com Nice videos! Are the cones competition and the Gambler's choice both judged on time? Best time wins? How did she do in driven dressage? or was there such a class? Are the results of the Moses Lake show posted somewhere? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
New videos posted....small brag
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" I just posted two driving events held at the Moses Lake show. My Joline (yo-LEE-na) and driver Bonnie Morris of Shadow Mountain Stables won the cones competition with the ONLY clean run. The Gamblers choice event was tied after the first round. The second half of the video is where Joline and Bonnie won the competition. They finished the requirements, during the runoff, so quickly (and CLEAN) that they were allowed to WALK the final portions Gamblers choice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1yfBu41b1s Cones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVgdoOjPBJk Shirley, Donna, Brian, Sherrie, and Lisa..we're baaack.and we won.. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Laura asks-where do they go?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Laura, if you have ever listened to the Kim Komando radio show Kim says that they sometimes go into the Galactic Bit Bucket...never to be seen again. It happens Fred BTW good show and LOTS of good computer information PLUS access to a LOT of FREE useful programs. http://www.komando.com . Been waiting for a royalty check Guess I'll have to wait longer . All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: Laura asks-where do they go? This message is from: laura fisher I have written a couple other monologues that I was quite proud of. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: re archives
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Not only just March 09 and earlier, but the major search functions (Refine Search) that was there a couple of days ago is not available. Some messages, that I KNEW were there would not come up...even if I refined dates to include a known message. Some of the messages had just disappeared. Now, only threads of message and chronological messages from March show up. I looked up old messages from March on my machine, and some didn't appear in the archives even for March now... I hope some of the archived material has not been lost. Fred (PS... regarding my Chickens and Horses posting... I forgot to mention the "sound effects" involved when the little hen went sailing over the fence Talk about one VERY ticked off little hen One of the funniest things I have ever seen/heard. (Nobody got physically hurtjust dignity and feelings). My mare, after the referee raised his arms to indicate a score.just went back to eating All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com It's not just you! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Personal decisions and backlashes ...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" You are corrected not so, at least on my list... I checked the archives on this list and could not find anything Fred This message is from: Heather Baskey Correct me if I'm wrong - Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: I stand corrected
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Apology accepted and I have removed you from my list. Sorry to have to use this list but you have all personal email from me blocked. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: I stand corrected This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com In a message dated 9/21/2009 2:20:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes: And also, PLEASE UN-Sub me from your list. I do apologise for embelishing the " booting off " . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: musings
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Lisa wrote: To accept, on face value, the above paragraph "Requires the suspension of disbelief" (to steal an appropriate phrase). You have learned, well, the tactic of attacking someone else when attacked yourself. The same member that Steve removed, from this list, was removed from my list for the same reasons. That is one. Another member was removed yesterday for violating a "Cease and Desist" order. That is two. You use the singular word "list", not lists. The only other list that you can allude to is mine, the FjordIssues list. You receive the daily digest from my list. They are not bouncing. You are aware of what was posted. I will not burden readers here with any of the comments made on my list. Many owners and Fjord lovers are members of both lists. They know what went on and what was said. Why can't you be truthful? I can not willingly suspend my disbelief. Taking this opportunity to attack my list and actions in shutting down a subject that was about to get really out of hand is a diversion that won't work. This is on the main group web page: "No subject pertaining to the Fjord is off-limits as long as the topic is treated, by all, with respect, consideration, and decency. I reserve the right to shut down any subject which I consider getting out of hand." What a cheap shot It missed the markas usual. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Moses Lake Show...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Would those of you fortunate enough to attend the Moses Lake Show please file some reports for those of us less fortunate?? I do know that my mare, Joline (yo-LEE-na) with Bonnie Morris (Shadow Mountain Stables) driving won the cones and gamblers choice. I am begging for any pictures of all events and horses/riders etc. especially pix on my little stallion The Showman and mare Joline. We could only attend in spirit as my wife is infirm and could not have tolerated the trip. Please. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
A personal request
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" We are unable to personally attend the Moses Lake Fjord show. My wife, Lois, is invalid and can not tolerate the length of time (in the car) to get there. She can not sit for very long. Our Stallion, The Showman will be evaluated. The Showman and our mare Joline will be in 15 events. Any photographs or videos of the evaluation and events my horses are in would soften the hurt of not being there in person. I thank everyone in advance.. Is there going to be a professional photographer assigned to the show too? Name? Contact information?? I would give my eye teeth to be able to come.. The care of my wife is more important. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: tiny brag
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Such fun. Good news about the Coggins. What a scare... I must correct you when you write: " laurie, oz and giz, the only two horses there with a Z in their names" We have a stallion out of Prydarson named "Zavtra" which is Russian means tomorrow. We kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting for him to pop out...each night saying...Maybe tomorrow. The name stuck. Another mare, Zagorska...named for the oldest monastery in Russia. We visited some good friends there. Got to see the "real" Russianot what they wanted the tourists to see. One of my mares got in with a mini stallion while in heat last month. We have been holding our breath that we might have a "Finny" on the way. She came back in heat today... WHEW!! (She would have had to lie down to be bred, but I've heard of stranger things happening). Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 crystal...@aol.com This message is from: crystal...@aol.com laurie, oz and giz, the only two horses there with a Z in their names Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Caribou CDE-- Canada--Trinity Fjords
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" How did you do at Happs CDE?? All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: FW: Caribou CDE-- Canada--Trinity Fjords This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" Greetings; Although this is my third CDE this summer I thought to write you about our last CDE at 70 mile House in Caribou Country of Interior B.C. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Crista. Multiple Choice
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" I think I know someone who has some un-necessary "Depends" and "Pampers" available Definition of a blessing: "A dry tushie!" Wonderful news... Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjordies in the News-Oregon
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Here is the direct link... it is no longer the third one down: http://www.kgw.com/video/video-index.html?nvid=362126 Good promo for our favorite breed The Fjord Fred Pam G Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:38 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Fjordies in the News-Oregon You can check it out at.. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: founder update.
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Valerie, I forgot to mention to add the powders (with very little grain) to some soaked beet pulp. Give it a toss in the pan (like you would stir fries) to mix the powder with the pulp. The powder will adhere to the beet pulp. Fred On Behalf Of brass-ring-f...@juno.com Subject: founder update. This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com Thank you Fred, and all the other people who have helped me with advice and support. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Valerie, did you get my private message about the LaminaSaver product you asked privately about?? I sent it with High importance and a return receipt and have heard nothing back. My message may be in your spam folder. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 brass-ring-f...@juno.com Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse with laminitis that overnight turned into a "sinker." Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: who wrote results of loose manure quest?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Dave, Private forward coming which was on another list... the CD-L.. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Dave McWethy Subject: who wrote results of loose manure quest? Can someone post it again, or send it to me? Thanks Dave Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Trimming posts
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Hmmm That message didn't come thru for some reason... I'll have to look thru the galactic bit bucket... Fred On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com In fact, if you will look back in yesterday's messages from this List, you will find a post from me that gave instructions that are even more detailed than yours. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Trimming posts
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" DeeAnna, With Outlook and Outlook Express (I know nothing about Thunderbird...sorry) after you hit reply, click your mouse cursor where you with to start editing/deleting. Then while holding down the LEFT mouse button, drag it across all the text that you do NOT want to send. Hit deletepoof it is gone. You can highlight parts of the original message in segments, and delete portions one at a time. Note in the edited text below. I have removed most of the header information, leaving only "On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com" to identify to whom, and to what subject I am replying to. I left the subject: "Trimming Posts". Then left only enough of your message to indicate that the prior suggestion did not work on those programs. You can then place your reply above or below the remaining text. This way you will see exactly what you would send BEFORE you hit the send key. If satisfied, hit send... Hope this helps... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 On Behalf Of coy...@acrec.com Subject: Re: Trimming posts I did a quick check with Mozilla Thunderbird, MS Outlook, and MS Outlook Express. This method does not appear to work for these email programs. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: so predictable
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" To come out with a comment like this is beneath contempt... Fred On Behalf Of Ursula & Brian Jensen Subject: so predictable Bonnie and Ruthie et al. .so predictable, so short sighted and not too bright... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Horse slaughter
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Re: Euthanasia of horses in Washington State... I just heard from my VERY respected vet that putting down an otherwise healthy horse IS permissible in Washington as long as the LEGAL owner OK's it. I just got my WSU news (Washington State University Equine Newsletter). They took in a big bunch of horses but had to put down most of them as they could not care for them all... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord Rescue Subject
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Euthanasia, according to my farrier, is NOT an option in Washington State if the horse is healthy. My farrier said that a Vet will walk away if asked to put down a healthy horse. I have NOT been able to confirm this with my Vet yet... Poor guy gets hardly any sleep this time of year I don't want to bother him with just a question right now Anyone else know whether this is true or not?? Could be only a Washington State thing... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Starvation nor slaughter is humane - humane euthanasia by a veterinarian is the answer. -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Thank-you STEVE correction
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" This line: My trainer, who was trashed by you and others at Libby, are not aware of some facts. Should read: Readers should be aware of some facts about my trainer. The same trainer who was trashed by you and others at Libby. I had to run and break up a dog fight. Something fell on the keyboard in my haste. The message was sent before I proof read it. If someone has a bone to pick with me, or my list, either write me privately or do it on MY listNOT HERE. Subject closed as far as I'm concerned. I will write nothing more about this. PERIOD Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Frederick J Pack Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:38 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Thank-you STEVE This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Lisa et al, My trainer, who was trashed by you and others at Libby, are not aware of some facts. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Thank-you STEVE
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Lisa et al, Rescue and Fjord welfare is STILL a paramount concern on my FjordIssues list. The conversations regarding Horse Slaughter were getting out of hand. I stopped that thread. Steve would have done the same thing here. Before YOU or anyone else, who is only on THIS list, the information about Mr. Stewart in Scotland had been posted on my list for some time. You know this. You are subscribed to my list. FJORD welfare has always been paramount. I personally posted many links to follow up and assist in the assessment (by readers) of the situation. But, you already know this.. Other readers, only on this list, do not. It seems devious to object to something about my list without writing something about it on mine. You have been conspicuously quiet and haven't posted anything since October of 2006. We could use some of your wisdom on my list as well. You write: Even another Fjord list, which was created and actually encouraged to discuss these tough rescue abuse and " saving Fjords in need " topics, I hear they called for an end to the conversation, while this list does not. I am puzzled by the use of the word HEAR in the above paragraph. Or are you trashing any messages from my list too. Have you bothered to READ what has been sent to you. Perhaps if you had, you would have not have written here. If you, in fact, DID...then you know why I shut the subject of horse slaughter down. I would e-mail this directly to you but you have set your email to block any messages from me directly. Don't trash my list just because you don't like me or my trainer My trainer, who was trashed by you and others at Libby, are not aware of some facts. Bonnie Morris has a heart of gold. She presently has three rescued horses at her facility right now that she saved from the knife or starvation. A couple of years ago, she bought two other horses to save them. One was nothing but a skeleton. She nursed both of these back to health. The mare that was a skeleton is now a mother. Bonnie is presently nursing one of MY Fjords back to health as I didn't have the facilities to adequately care for her. She has become an accomplished CDE competitor. Just last week she had two of my fjords hooked up to Dave McQwethy's (Sp?) cart at Happs. Dave drove and loved them too. You, and the other nay-sayers from our Libby Incident will not admit you made a mistake about her. Next time you object to something going on on MY list, write your thought there...not here. And, NO...I haven't removed you from my list just because you trashed us here. Fred (owner Yahoo FjordIssues list) and a proud to be a member of this list too... All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of pedfjo...@aol.com This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com Even another Fjord list, which was created and actually encouraged to discuss these tough rescue abuse and " saving Fjords in need " topics, I hear they called for an end to the conversation, while this list does not. When name calling begins and personal accusations of embelishing or how someone is making pompus statements while sitting behind their computer, shielded from the world, and without knowing where they have been or what they have done, makes for uncomfortable reading. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
FW: re 7 fjords died in Scotland
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Some links to the story that I posted on my list a while ago... This story has been VERY active on the FjordIssues list beginning a week ago. I will ask some of the members if I may cross post some messages... http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/278927.html http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/195651.html http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1128053 Fred Pack Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
My great apologies
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Dear Cheryl, Steve, and the group... Your message that I responded to about trimming showed up on my lists inbox in error. It was an error on my end. The rules that I have to separate mail screwed up and it was placed in the inbox for MY list.I get after my list people to keep their messages trimmed in deference to those that have slow dial up connections. Thinking that it was a message on MY list, I responded about trimming. When I realized that the message was in fact on Steves list .OOOps.. My most humble apologies to you, the list, and the owner Steve. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Vestlandshest meeting Sunday, Feb 1
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Cheryl, You forget to trim??? All highlighted in yellow should have been deleted. Entire message re-sent to show an example of how it should have been trimmed. Folks, take pity on those with slow downloads... Fred (owner) All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of CHERYL GARNICA Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:56 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Vestlandshest meeting Sunday, Feb 1 This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA See you there! cheryl --- On Tue, 1/27/09, reviv...@thegrid.net wrote: From: reviv...@thegrid.net Subject: Vestlandshest meeting Sunday, Feb 1 To: "fjord List" , "fjordiss...@yahoogroups.com" , "Linda Adame" , "Jon Anderson" , "Jenny Barnes" , cowanh...@yahoo.com, fjo...@inreach.com, "Donna Fenich" , "Green Valley Farm" , "Bob & Cindi Frojd" , "Cheryl G" , "Lauren Haggerty" , "Jim & Judith Jeude" , "Kathy Kramer" , "Dalie Mathan" , "Dorothy McPherson-Donnell" , "Bitten Nors" , "larry pool" , "Karen & John Schweikle" , "Laura Sokol" , "npso...@aol.com" , "mi...@earthlink.net" , "Carl & Rondi Tyler" , "cynthia vallecillo" , "Jayne Olson" Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:38 PM This message is from: reviv...@thegrid.net Hi everyone, This is a reminder that the next Vestlandshest meeting is scheduled to be held during Equine Affaire in Pomona next Sunday, February 1st at 11:30 a.m. We will meet outside at the tables between the vendor buildings 5 and 8. Included on the agenda will be discussion of plans for Vestlandshest in 2009. If you plan on eating lunch during the meeting, please be ready promptly at 11:30 as we have a lot to cover during the meeting and folks will want to get back to the clinics or shopping. Bring your ideas and we hope to see you there! Karen Haines Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Small Minds are Easily Amused
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Kate and all, Freezing temperatures can hone your golf skills. Frozen balls may get sent over the fence skillfully with a 9 Iron. Of course my Pyrenees think that they should attempt to retrieve each one . Make sure that you whack a frozen one though... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 . On Behalf Of katesei...@aol.com . Subject: Small Minds are Easily Amused This message is from: katesei...@aol.com . I discovered all of my high school lacrosse skills coming back to me! . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: cold
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Linda, You should have 5 of them. We have three rescues and two "storebought" pups now going on two years old. You should see the "Chinese Circus" when they were all playing together in our deep snow.. Only problem was them bringing in Giant Snowballs on their feet when they wanted inside for a nap. We have never had our Fjords or our Llamas bothered by coyotes, bear, bobcats, or cougars since we got them. Our big male wouldn't let our farrier in one day. I had to walk down to the main gate and tell "Bear" that the farrier was OK It is amazing everybody gets along together except the Fjords HATE the miniature mares, but love the little stallions. When in heat, the Fjords drive the little guys nuts..showing...winking and blinking... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 . Linda Lottie .Subject: RE: cold This message is from: Linda Lottie . My Great White Pyrenes is amazing. He virtually lives outside, by choice. . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #6
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" It went out to everyone in Linda's address book. She has a "Trojan". Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: crystal...@aol.com i got this in my personal mail, also, and linda thinks she has some kind of virus, so delete it if you get it. it's not from her. laurie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
A sad day...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" I sadly report that our foundation mare, Susie C-48, reported to the Rainbow Bridge. She would have been 35 years old in two weeks. Her rear end would no longer support her for long and once down..she could not get up. I picked her up twice with the tractor but when she went down the last time, we had to say goodbye. Susie came to us on Christmas Day, 1997. She was carrying her final foal, Troika. Her foal, Troika, stood guard at the doorway all night out in the snow. Susie was inside one of our small barns. We had alerted the vet the night before that he probably would be needed. She crossed the "Bridge" with her head in my lap. She came to us with dignity, and left the same way. Our great lady will be sorely missed. Fred Enjoy EVERY minute with your Fjords. You may never get a second chance. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: crazy horse thieves
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Ellen, you forgot E) Sorry, But I think there's only one real solution. Do like people do in Tennessee: A) Get the "No trespassing signs" B) Get yourself a good gun C) Get yourself a motion detector D) When you see her again on your property: Shoot her E) Bury her somewhere and keep your mouth shut. SSS Shoot Shovel Shutup Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Galiana and Frodo
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hurray for Galianna and Frodo, I went thru flight training at Mainside Pensacola, Whiting Field, Cory Field, Saufley Field, and finished basic with my carrier qualification at Baron Field (Foley, Alabama). Then off to jet fighter training in Corpus Christi, TX. Darned if I can remember what the helicopter training base's name was at the time help me... I think it started with an "E"??? You must be near Whiting Field as I believe that is where the chopper training is now... I soloed at Whiting in fixed wing T-34 in 1955. I almost landed on a gator at Whiting as it was ambling across the runway. Did you happen to check around under the fence lines for any gator tracks? Funny about helicopters: When we finished building up here on the mountain and got everything electrified (horse water heaters and all), my power bill jumped dramatically. I think the DEA got wind of the big jump and came looking one night around midnight. VERY quiet, but the anti-collision strobe light lit up our bedroom. They never came back as their infra-red gear would have picked up a lot of warm horse bodies, Llama bodies and the heated horse waterers must have stood out like beacon lights. We didn't even bother getting out of bed... as it was not bothering the Fjords at all. We have CCTV and don't have to get out of bed to look around. Darn handy. Ours are hard wired systems and especially useful to watch the foaling pen too. We are really proud of your Fjords WITH you... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: Galiana and Frodo This message is from: Paula Chmura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks everyone for the good wishes. Galianna was doing much better today and was able to be turned out and even nibbled some grass. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #203
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paula, I tried to find where you live. The registry shows Pensacola. If you are in the Pensacola area, could it be a stray gator?? Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula Chmura Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:52 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #203 This message is from: Paula Chmura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Treating abscesses
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, if you know anyone who works at Emerald Downs, the poltice is available at the jockey shop. I had someone working here who warmed up horses. She got me some from the track. She has disappeared to parts unknown and I know nobody else who works at the track. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:31 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Treating abscesses This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If anyone finds this poltice bandage, let me know. I am thinking of stocking up for hoof bandaging. Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: New to Fjord List
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kristie, Welcome to this list. Unfortunately, pictures can not be posted here. Only plain text messages are accepted. I run a Yahoo group called FjordIssues. There, pictures can be attached OR put within a message. While pictures within messages may not be viewed if mail is accessed thru the web page, members who select to receive individual e-mails will get all the pictures. We also maintain a picture library. Steve, this lists owner, has posted a link to my list on his main web page. I have a link to this list on mine. We are not in competition with each other, and friends too. Take a look: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FjordIssues/ Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Kristie Strange Subject: New to Fjord List This message is from: "Kristie Strange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, Can we attach photos in our emails? If so, then I will share some photos of Izzy in another email. Sincerely, Kristie Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Moses Lake 2008 Show
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian, I sent a private message requesting permission to cross-post this to my FjordIssues list. I request the courtesy of a reply. This information need to go out to everybody. Teresa gave permission to forward hers and I have... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ursula & Brian Jensen Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:45 AM To: fjordlist Subject: Moses Lake 2008 Show This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008 will be remembered as a special year for the Fjord owners/breeders attending the Moses Lake Show. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #177
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You must have missed how to get to the classifieds, click on: http://fjordhorselist.com/classifieds/ then click on the individual categories. No question is dumb if you don't know the answer... It is only dumb NOT to ask. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dumb question..how do i access the classified ads? laurie, it's the heat, not the humidity, fried the brain Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: classified ads
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debbi, and STEVE I put your name and email into your posting on the wanted list. To do it yourself, go to your ad...click on modify...and put in your phone number too. Fred TO STEVE: I think this is a GREAT idea. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Debby Stai Subject: classified ads This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I posted an ad to the "wanted" section, but hadn't given email or contact info. I didn't see a place where to put that. Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Sad News
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Michele, Thank you for sharing with us. Lois and I will gladly carry some of the weight of your sorrow for you. Soren will never leave you. He will always be in your heart. Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Noonan Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:21 PM To: fjordhorse-digest Subject: Sad News This message is from: "Michele Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't even know where to begin. I have been dreading this post but also want some closure and also you guys are all my friends and friends share sorrows as well as joys. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New Video posted
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi folks, I have posted a new video taken at the All Breed Show in Puyallup, WA. This video was taken while getting ready for the announcer's introduction to the Fjord Breed in the arena. The audio is a little difficult to hear as only one half of the stands were occupied by spectators and there is a lot of echo from the far side empty seats. However, a good background of the breed was given while Bonnie Morris and Navigator Macawlay Dukes presented my Joline in a cart. Mike Melby presented Bonnie's white stud colt, Lordalen on lead. Mrs. Dukes, Macawlay's mom, presented Bonnie's dun filly Georgina on lead. Link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BUIlLWk3uQ The patriotic video that I have already posted followed the introduction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj92gR-2qgg Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
My Joline at the All Breed Show
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Last weekend, the All Breed Show was held at the Western Washington Fairgrounds in Puyallup, WA. My Fjord, Joline: Driver/Trainer Bonnie Morris, and Navigator Macawlay Dukes performed for the audience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_R6neO-Ac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4DTVzjAhQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj92gR-2qgg After their performance, the participants of the Warhorse Challenge attacked targets on horseback. Joline, Bonnie, and Macawlay were invited to try the tests from a cart. I hope you enjoy the videos as much as I enjoyed making them. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: [FjordIssues] If you happen to be around Puyallup, WA today or tomorrow
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Drat.spelled her White Stallion wrong. Lordalen. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
If you happen to be around Puyallup, WA today or tomorrow
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bonnie Morris, my trainer and driver, will be doing a demonstration in the main arena today (Saturday) at 1:15PM and Sunday around 6PM. She will be driving my Joline pulling our Coyaltix Marathon cart. Also exhibited will be her Dun Mare Georgina, and her White Stallion Ironwood Loadalen. Since Corrine Logan had to cancel, these will be the only Fjords at the all breed show. See you there. Fred and Lois Pack All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: One hell of an adventure update
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It turns out that the latest account is not accurate. It was a different individual who attempted to rob a house and the police were after him. Fred Joline's owner All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: One hell of an adventure update This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone An update. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: One hell of an adventure update
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It turns out that the latest account is not accurate. It was a different individual who attempted to rob a house and the police were after him. Fred Joline's owner All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: One hell of an adventure update This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone An update. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: One hell of an adventure
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, that is my "super mare"... All of you can see why I am proud of my mare and trainer... Fred (who is ALWAYS armed...legally) All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Linda Lehnert Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:17 AM Is that Fred's horse, Joline, you were out with? She sounds like a super horse to remain calm with all of that going on. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Wintec saddle recommendations?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bonnie, the strange characters are the list's attempt to translate a HTML message to plain text. Messages to this list must be sent in plain text...It can NOT display graphics or graphic characters. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 In a message dated 6/14/2008 1:42:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question what does this mean ? Bonnie Morris The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Cell phone numbers going public
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is false...read the linked Snopes article... http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-.Subject: Cell phone numbers going public This message is from: Ronni Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Keeping a senior fjord
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kelly, Lots of good suggestions on how to feed the "elders". Our Susie is now 34 and very fit. She gets grass hay AND once a day she gets a bucket of "smush". Our trainer, Bonnie Morris, taught me this trick. In a 5 gallon bucket: 6 8oz cups of Sterling pellets, 6 8oz cups of Equine Senior, 1/1/2 cups Alfalfa pellets, 1 1/2 cups of soaked Beet Pulp (No Molasses...Equine Sr. has Molasses), and 1 fluid Oz of Equine Corta Flx. Add 3 gallons of luke warm water and let stand for at least 10 minutesdo NOT stir. She cleans out the bucket well enough to almost put it back on the shelf without rinsing. She is getting fluids as well as nourishments that are easily digested. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Trirogoff Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:17 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Keeping a senior fjord This message is from: Kelly Trirogoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list; We have finally moved my fjord, Skovy, home. Upon arrive home we discovered that Skovy does not like to be alone, and had to quickly aquire another horse. Luckily there was free one one in the paper. Now our new fjord (I had get another one of course) is deffinetly a senior citizen (deffinetly over 20). It is believed that he came from the Narnia lines here in BC, the previous owner said he was a stud at one point but i doubt it. Anyways, I have had him about 5 days, and I don't know much about keeping the oldies...He is having a hard time keeping/gaining weight. He is getting a ton of food, and it may be helping (just slow). He gets senior pellets, complete pellets, beet pulp, oil, alfalfa cubes and regular 1st cut hay. Plus the occassionl graze on the lawn. I don't give him ton, as I am increasing the amounts so I don't shock his system. Now Andy (Narnia fjords Andros???aka "Grandpa") is too thin for my liking he is probably a 3 on the body rating. His pelvis protrudes, his ribs are just slightly visible and his mane won't stay up as the weight of his hair too much( it just flops over). I know this guy will probably never look like his plump former self again, but I want to make sure he is comfortable for the coming years. He has had his teeth done and was just wormed. Any suggestions on keeping the older guys would be appreciated. Thanks Kelly Trirogoff _ Enter today for your chance to win $1000 a daytoday until May 12th. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/215 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: NFHR site down?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Worked, but very slow to load... All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:39 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: NFHR site down? This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I tried www.nfhr.com and got nothing? Or did the address change? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Recalls - I just got this on a dog list
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The correct link to the blog entry is: http://www.animaltalknaturally.com/2008/05/03/purina-horse-feed-recall/#more -757 or http://tinyurl.com/6eby5b (I made it smaller) All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bonnie Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:41 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Recalls - I just got this on a dog list This message is from: Bonnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I called Purina Horse Feeds. The recalled products are from these 3 East Coast Plants: Guilderland, NY; Harrisburg, PA; Statesville, NC The mfg plant codes are: GDL, HAR, STA If these codes are on your feed bags, stop feeding and contact your dealer NOW. I did not bother to get a list of products or the particulars. Purina Phone number is: 1-800-227-8941 Essentially, those who are WEST of Ohio, Tenn, Ky, Mississippi, should all be okay. Those who are in Ohio, Tenn, KY, Mississippi and states East of there should all check their feed to be sure it isn't among the recall list. This is the list of products, but only if from the GDL, HAR, STA plant Formula No. - Item No. - Description 56AT - 0049098 - Country Acres All Stock 14% Texture 56AZ - 0051858 - Country Acres All Stock 16% Texture 35EX - 0048193 - Country Acres Horse Complete 14 35DR - 0041941 - Country Acres Horse Pellet 10 35DS - 0041940 - Country Acres Horse Pellet 12 35DN - 0041937 - Country Acres Horse Sweet 10 35DP - 0041943 - Country Acres Horse Sweet 12 6514 - 0009876 - Country Acres Layer 16% 3505 - 0034202 - Complete Advantage 35G9 - 0001206 - Equine Junior 35J9 - 0001209 - Equine Senior 5501 - 0001403 - Goat Chow 3531 - 0004984 - Horse Chow 100 35CZ - 0054628 - Horsemans Edge 10:10 TXT HF 35TK - 0065331 - Horsemans Edge Complete 14 35Y5 - 0010610 - Horsemans Edge Pellet 10:6 35TG - 0065244 - Horsemans Edge PLT 12:6 + Lys 35TP - 0065356 - Horsemans Edge Sweet 14:6 35TM - 0065354 - Horsemans Edge Sweet 12:6 + Lys 3516 - 0001187 - Pure Pride 100 26WK - 0047869 - Sow & Pig Builder OTC 50 61S3 - 0057259 - Start & Gro Sunfresh Recipe + + + + + + Purina has recalled several horse products including Senior. She contacted her feed store and they confirmed. I havent as yet but will. According to the email, the recall was not made available to the general public!! Notices went to the dealers directly. On 4/9 they recalled 27 equine products inc. Senior and Platformline. On 4/21 they recalled another 18 products. The problem is Aflatoxins which can cause liver dysfunction, immune suppression and neurological difficulties. >> Please read the entire article here: _http://www.animalta lknaturally. com/2008/ 05/03/purina- horse-feed- LINK INCOMPLETE.. FRED The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: orphan foal "milker" changed to "so Sorry"
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Philis, Hugs and good thoughts. Only time passing works We hope the good thought help plug the hole in your heart. Guilt trips only make the hole larger. Fred and Lois Pack All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philis Anderson Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:52 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: orphan foal "milker" This message is from: "Philis Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On another note, I just wanted to say that I lost my seven month old Fjord gelding back in January. It was terribly heartbreaking for me because I was caring for him 24/7 for days. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: saddles
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Deb, I like the Orthoflex... No, I don't have one for sale...sorry. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: "Deb Logan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know this question gets asked over & over BUT - I am looking for a western or endurance type saddle for my Fjord - if anyone has one for sale 15 or 16 seator just some ideas of what type & model work best for fjords for trail riding - I currently have a treeless, but want a saddle with a treeThanks!! Deb in Western Washington The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Kez
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hope this helps a littlewe know what you are going through all too well Stories teach. Once upon a time (Genesis 9: 8-17), God made a promise to Noah, to all human kind, and (significantly) to all animals on the ark: never again would a flood destroy the earth. God signed that promise, placing a rainbow in the heavens. The Hebrew word qesheth, as used in this passage, has the same meanings as the English word bow: a qesheth, or bow, is an implement used to shoot deadly arrows. By extension, it is anything shaped like a bow. In times and cultures where the bow, often highly decorated, was a primary military weapon, chieftains ratified peace treaties publicly by hanging up their war bows. When God hung that gloriously colored bow in the heavens, it sealed a covenant between the Supreme Being and all earthly creatures. Eventually the oral tradition of Genesis was written down, and all who read or heard its message understood the symbol of the rainbow: so long as that bow stood in the heavens, there would be an effective treaty between God and earth. Whenever a rainbow appears, we see tangible evidence, an arched bridge between earth and heaven, of a divine promise. It is a path between known and unknown, between finite and infinite, between storm and sunshine. Gods brilliant, beautiful, celestial signature confirms unending, individual concern for all creatures. Its ephemeral splendor takes our breath away, and we stop a moment, staring, mouths agape, awed in the presence of something so wonderful. And we remember its significance. Animal lovers use the earth-bound base of the rainbow to symbolize the verdant, flower-strewn meadows, hills, and groves, interwoven by cool, murmuring streams of sweet water, where our dearly missed companion animals--now transfigured, forever healthy-gambol and await our arrival. When finally we join them, equally transfigured, and following a joyful re-acquaintance, we will cross an eternal promise into heaven together, there to be united again with our human family and friends who have preceded us, many with their own animal companions. How sweet, how glorious those reunions will be! Our eyes fill with tears of anticipation: the sound of a beloved voice, the touch of a well-known hand, the familiar but long-gone scent, the soft fur we knew so well, the velvet shape of an ear, the pink, smiling tongue. Together again, for all eternity! Like Noah, we bring animals into our lives with delight, knowing the great probability that they will predecease us. Before separation and sorrow, however, comes unconditional love, a love so joyously profound that it transcends even death. Death itself is as integral to life as birth. Both are part of an unending cycle of change, of beginnings and endings, of additions and losses. But the rainbow promise is constant and eternal as God. Now we come to a new year, an ending and a beginning, a death and a birth. As the old year dies and the new is born, we remember the joy and the sorrow of the past, and we look forward with hope to the future. As we ponder these matters, we count our manifold blessings, and we resolve to better our world and ourselves. It is fitting on such an occasion to pause in remembrance of those we have lost during the past twelve months. So many are gone! We each remember members of our family. Our friends: Those others who touched our lives, our minds, our hearts, our imaginations, our souls. All these people we loved, each in her, or his, own way. They gave our lives meaning, and our spirits wings and song. We will see them again, and not, we are promised, through a glass darkly, but then face-to-face. On the threshold of a new year, we mourn those of whatever race, nationality, or creed who perished in disaster, conflict, or earth-shattering conflagrations and plagues of terror. We have seen the grim visage of evil among us. But, there are numberless others who slipped away without recognition or honor. They, too, deserve our prayerful reflection. We remember our beloved companion animals, those blessed creatures who shared our lives all too briefly. And we think of those poor waifs who departed this life without ever knowing human love; or, having known it, lost it. All are waiting in our imaginations, there at the earthly beginning of Gods promise, until we are called home. The rainbow promises that we and our animals are each known by the Designer and Creator of the Universe. Our finite inability to comprehend an infinite plan does not alter this truth. As we consider the Noaic Covenant and the legend of the Rainbow Bridge, may we remember those we no longer see, or touch, or hear; may tears of memory assuage our earthly pain (tears, too, are Gods gift); and may we rejoice in the wonder, the joy, the love our friends and companions brought into our lives. In the midst of remembrance, acknowledge that the
RE: PNFPG Newsletter
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Corinne, Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the clarification and it is understood and accepted with thanks. Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Willows Edge Farm Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:45 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: PNFPG Newsletter This message is from: "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I didn't realize this morning when I read the note that it was a public note, so I guess I'll share my response publicly as well, so we can hopefully clarify any misunderstandings with the PNFPG newsletter and the color pages: Hi Lois, I was forwarded your note and wanted to clarify that the color pages are limited in each issue as they are inserts and were offered first to our corporate sponsors and previous full page, regular advertisers. Both Ursula and I held back taking those color pages, (although we would both be in the right to do so since we both pay for our full pages ads and volunteer our time to get the newsletter out) to see if the others took them first and boy they did! The offer was put out before I had received Bonnie's ad and within 48 hours were taken. Bonnie was not turned down as much as they just weren't there to take. For Bonnie, Ursula or myself. She did email me her full page ad and I had told her this information and I thought that she understood. I would appreciate it if you would pass along my apology if she misunderstood. Hopefully, as the group grows and gains in popularity and strength, we might even look to having a full color, glossy book like the beautiful Fjord Herald - yes, I dream B-I-G! Until that time though, Ursula and I will do our best to accommodate everyone. Thanks, Corinne Logan Willows Edge Farm Bothell, WA (425) 402-6781 www.willowsedgefarm.com Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:09:43 -0800 From: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PNFPG Newsletter This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ursula, perhaps you can answer why my trainer (Bonnie Morris of Shadow Mountain Stables) was turned down (by you) for a color ad in the NL even though she had her request in very early. It appears that ads are not accepted on a first come first serve basis. Color ads are reserved for the select few. Ms. Morris is apparently not among the select few. Lois Pack The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: mare lost a baby
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh Dear. Such a heartbreak Perhaps the wet mare could be a nurse mare to an orphan in the area??? I would ask around, rather than just let her dry up. Put the word out We are so darn sorry Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Clarke Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:32 PM To: Fjord List Subject: mare lost a baby This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This morning we found Nika's 5 week old foal lying next to the fence with a broken neck. It looks as if maybe he ran, hit a slick spot and fell. We are heart broken and so is she. But I need advice on the best way to handle Nika's milk. Is it best to let it dry up naturally or should I milk off a little to relieve the pressure? I have heard both ways, but want to hear from someone who has tried it. this is really different from weaning a foal because at 5 weeks she was just hitting the peak of milk production. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: PNFPG Newsletter
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ursula, perhaps you can answer why my trainer (Bonnie Morris of Shadow Mountain Stables) was turned down (by you) for a color ad in the NL even though she had her request in very early. It appears that ads are not accepted on a first come first serve basis. Color ads are reserved for the select few. Ms. Morris is apparently not among the select few. Lois Pack All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ursula & Brian Jensen I will be working on the NL in the next two weeks so here is your chance...Spring is coming so breeders should get their ads in NOW...we have added color to our NL...yeehaaa!!! Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: East facing Fjords...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Only if the horse breaks out a prayer rug... All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (if he starts kneeling toward the East then I will know he has been converted!) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:Fords facing East?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To be a little frivolous, maybe the horse is watching for a bright star rising in the east No offense intended to anyone... IMHO, it has to do with the rotation of the earth. A resting animal...humans included..rest better with their heads to the east. With all the strange hours that I had to endure as an international jet pilot, I rested MUCH better when I was able to sleep with my head to the east. Liken it to sleeping uphill or downhill... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jgayle Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:18 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Re:Fords facing East? This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, he is on a flat pasture. If we had sun (long time without) I would think he would change sides and hence face west. I hope it is not an omen!! Or maybe I am making too much of it. But every time I go out or look out he is either grazing head down or facing East. Jean Gayle The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Rusty old t-post
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A bumper jack with a short loop of cable works wonders on T post removal... Hope the horse recovers fully. Cuts like that scare the heck out of you One of my little gals sliced open her nose and was covered with blood. Found a logging spike that the horses had uncovered and had to play with. They have even uncovered 20' lengths of logging cable that was discarded years and years ago... Vet did a magnificent job of sewing it up and you have to look hard for the scar now. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jgayle Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:57 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Rusty old t-post This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So sorry about the accident. Seems horses can just find these things. My posts break off when I try to straighten them from Gunnar's tail scratching. As they are on the fence line they are just driven in or removed if they can be. Good lesson to learn, but painful. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Making the (powdered Psyllium) Medicine go Down?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, When I feed the powdered Psyllium to my horses, soaked beet pulp is a regular in their diet. When they get their grain (sweet feed so it already has molasses), minerals, and beet pulpa measure of powdered Psyllium will easily adhere (when tossed/mixed) to the beet pulp without making a big gooey mess. Nobody has turned that mixture down.. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:41 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Making the (powedered psyillium) Medicine go Down? This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I bought powdered psyllium mixed with ground flax seed from Horse Tech because it is supposed to be better at picking up sand than pelleted forms. Problem is, some horses will not eat it at all. Others breath hard on it (or the wind blows in the outside corrals) and the psyllium just blows away. I know it should not be put in water. I have considered spraying ground up hay or hay pellets with water, just enough to make the psyllium stick, and trying that. My husband mixes psyllium with molasses and pellets and that works fairly well, but is horribly messy. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Messages finally coming thru
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My many thanks for the list and private messages of sympathy and condolence. They are helping a lot.. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
not getting any mail from the list
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have not received any individual e-mail from the list for 2 days.including my "sadness" posting and just sent a test message. Steve, my postings are showing up in the archives but I am getting not mail from the list. I just checked with my ISP (Hughes) and anything addressed from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not being blocked by them. Reena, I just saw your reply to my "With Great Sadness" on the archives.thank you. If you receive this message from the list, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] that you received the individual message. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
test please ignore
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not receiving any mail from the list All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
With Great Sadness...
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Fjord lovers, Cherish your horses minute by minute..as "stuff happens". I have kept a running update on my mare, Spring Hills Kirste, on my list but have written nothing here yet. Kirste suffered a large sand impaction at the end of November even though she (and all my other horses are on a Psyllium regimen). She was taken to Pilchuck Veterinary Hospital for treatment. The Vets were unable to flush out the sand so an operation was undertaken. Two GALLONS of crap was taken from her belly. After mega-bucks of treatment, she was sent home on the 10th of December. Her incision was healing nicely, but normal bowl function was sporadic. Finally on Christmas, she started to pass manure normally. We thought we had beaten the odds..wrong. Yesterday morning, Saturday, she started to run a fever and began to tremble all over. The vet was called immediately and he filled her with just about every antibiotic made. They didn't work. Her upper respiratory infection caused her to fill up with fluid. She was never allowed to be where she could get a chill, or get wet. It has been determined by the Vet that she was not contagious, so my other horses are not at risk. The sudden lung problem can occur because of the anesthetic procedure involved in a major operation. Some make it..some don't. She crossed the Rainbow Bridge yesterday afternoon. It was that quick. I buried her up here on Pack's Peak today. Her last chance to compete would have been a Moses Lake or Libby, but we (mistakenly) were not allowed to go. My sweet Kirste will never run in unison beside her sister, Kise again. I do not write this in bitterness, but to prod everyone to value the unconditional love that your horses will give.It can be taken from you suddenly. I believe that all members, here, value their horses love as much as we do.. Take a moment to reflect on the gift that your horses give you.. Love. No one can put a value on that. Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Information request
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What are the dates in '08 for the Moses Lake and Libby Shows. Thanks in advance, Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Ironwood Farm Announcements and Sale Horses
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey folks! This means that there will be an extremely well trained white Fjord stud west of the mountains, near Seattle. I know it will be will trained, as Bonnie trained Mike Melby's stallion to Blue in Libby in '06 and trained our stud "The Showman" to Blue in ground driving at Libby in '05. Although it will be two years or so before being available for stud, I would strongly suggest booking an advance position as this white colt is magnificent. Our stud, The Showman, is in advanced training at Bonnie's and will be available for stud come spring. Our Prydarson colt, Zavtra, should be ready to stand at stud this spring also. Got to get some pix taken when they shed out Our options, and herd, are finally coming together..except Bonnie has the white colt and we don'tDRAT. All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ironwood Farm Announcements and Sale Horses This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm pleased to announce some exciting news for West Coast mare owners.? Ironwood Lordalen, our 2007 white dun colt (Ironwood Blitzen/FC Madellin) has been sold to Bonnie Morris.? Lordalen will be relocating to Washington State later this week.? I appreciate that it will be years before Lordalen will be covering mares, but he's worth keeping tabs on.? Bonnie, who posts regularly here, will doubtlessly keep us informed of his adventures.? I'm particularly happy that Bonnie is interested in showing him both under saddle and in harness.? Lordalen has his sire's personality, which means he'll be steady and have a good work ethic.? So congratulations to Bonnie and may she enjoy this special colt. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Herald
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jen, You join the NFHR. Go to http://www.nfhr.com click on Joining the NFHR on the left side. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:43 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Herald This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How can I get a subscription? Jen The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Water consumption in the Fjord breed
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry Jen, but I am unfamiliar with other breeds. I have only Fjords and miniatures. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jen frame Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:31 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Water consumption in the Fjord breed This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Fred. Is 7 to 10 gallons MORE than other breeds of horses drink? Jen On 11/4/07, Frederick J Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Jen, > My Fjords average between 7 and 10 gallons per day. Cold days less, hot > days more. My kids don't like cold-cold water, but will break ice to sip > icy water below sometimesrather than walk to the water trough. > > All our piped water sources are thermostatically controlled to never go > below 50 degrees. > > Fred > > All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. > Fred and Lois Pack > Pack's Peak Stables > Wilkeson, Washington 98396 > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jen frame > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:13 AM > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Water consumption in the Fjord breed > > This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Everyone, > I hope you all don't mind all my questions--I am new to the Fjord > breed and curious about the differences between Fjords and other > breeds. > My question today is about the amount of water your Fjords drink. > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Water consumption in the Fjord breed
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jen, My Fjords average between 7 and 10 gallons per day. Cold days less, hot days more. My kids don't like cold-cold water, but will break ice to sip icy water below sometimesrather than walk to the water trough. All our piped water sources are thermostatically controlled to never go below 50 degrees. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jen frame Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:13 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Water consumption in the Fjord breed This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, I hope you all don't mind all my questions--I am new to the Fjord breed and curious about the differences between Fjords and other breeds. My question today is about the amount of water your Fjords drink. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Halloween Fjordies in action
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just sent the pictures to Carol in a personal message. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Pastore Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:02 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Halloween Fjordies in action This message is from: Carol Pastore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do you download these pics? Carol Pastore, Director Challenge Colorado Therapeutic Riding Program 0536 Swede Lane Monte Vista, Colorado 81144 ~Speech Pathologist~ ~NARHA Instructor~ ~NARHA Registered Therapist ~ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:20:27 -0400 > Subject: Halloween Fjordies in action > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is my new 5 month old filly and her first Halloween. She enjoyed it > very much and really loved all the attention from all the children. She sure > is a little gem. I have many more pictures, but as you can see she stole > the show! The little girl in the green and yellow costume begged and begged > for a ride. Just had to share these with all > > Bonnie > > > > > > > > > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1 033 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Halloween Fjordies in action
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol, these pictures are available in the photo section of my list: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FjordIssues/ Join up, go to photos, click on Fjords at Halloween. Fred (FjordIssues owner) All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Pastore Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:02 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Halloween Fjordies in action This message is from: Carol Pastore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do you download these pics? Carol Pastore, Director Challenge Colorado Therapeutic Riding Program 0536 Swede Lane Monte Vista, Colorado 81144 ~Speech Pathologist~ ~NARHA Instructor~ ~NARHA Registered Therapist ~ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:20:27 -0400 > Subject: Halloween Fjordies in action > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is my new 5 month old filly and her first Halloween. She enjoyed it > very much and really loved all the attention from all the children. She sure > is a little gem. I have many more pictures, but as you can see she stole > the show! The little girl in the green and yellow costume begged and begged > for a ride. Just had to share these with all > > Bonnie > > > > > > > > > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1 033 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Halloween Fjordies in action
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Bonnie, Pictures will not come thru on this list...only text. The pictures DID come thru on my FjordIssues list. How come no pictures of Joline pulling the wagonette and kids around? The little filly is a doll... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:20 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Halloween Fjordies in action This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is my new 5 month old filly and her first Halloween. She enjoyed it very much and really loved all the attention from all the children. She sure is a little gem. I have many more pictures, but as you can see she stole the show! The little girl in the green and yellow costume begged and begged for a ride. Just had to share these with all Bonnie ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Check out these Fjord cross pmu babies needing homes
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TA DA! You got it for us Thanks from all of us... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melinda Schumacher Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:20 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Check out these Fjord cross pmu babies needing homes This message is from: "Melinda Schumacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uhhh.I think it's really this one! http://www.theanimalifarm.com/ Mel in Marengo :) On 10/30/07, Frederick J Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Both wrong... > http://www.theanimalfarm.com > > All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. > Fred and Lois Pack > Pack's Peak Stables > Wilkeson, Washington 98396 > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Ernest > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:13 PM > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Re: Check out these Fjord cross pmu babies needing homes > > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The link is wrong, should be http://www.theanimalifarm > > At 02:21 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >The site is _www.theandimalifarm.com_ (http://www.theandimalifarm.com) > >very cute foals and mares needing homes.Very reasonable adoption > fees. > >They also cover transport. > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > -- Coaching with Melinda Schumacher, MD Personal Empowerment through Creative Expression and Equine Experiential Learning "You wander from room to room hunting for the diamond necklace that is already around your neck." ~Jalal-Uddin Rumi "As she knotted the reins and took her stand, the horse's soul came into her hand, and up from the mouth that held the steel came an innermost word, half thought, half feel."~paraphrased, John Masefield Fly Without Wings www.flywithoutwings.net Gestalt Practitioner www.gestaltcleveland.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Check out these Fjord cross pmu babies needing homes
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both wrong... http://www.theanimalfarm.com All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Ernest Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:13 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Check out these Fjord cross pmu babies needing homes This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The link is wrong, should be http://www.theanimalifarm At 02:21 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >The site is _www.theandimalifarm.com_ (http://www.theandimalifarm.com) >very cute foals and mares needing homes.Very reasonable adoption fees. >They also cover transport. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: emergency plans
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh yes... If they start to fray on the end, melt the loose threads with a flame. Also, to put a new hole in one, heat a nail with a heat source and melt a new hole where you need it. Imagine what one would do to a horse's face and head in a fire... It melts like hot glue... Fred Pack PS: Have you mailed in your NFHR BOD ballot yet? All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 jgayle Re "nylon" halters, are these heavy woven, colored halters nylon? I always thought they were like canvas Jean The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: synthetic harness preferences
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jen, You might check into the Picasso harnesses which are biothane. http://www.picassoforhorses.com/en/productos/guarniciones1.php Mary Tobey is the US representative and can be contacted at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent product and they stand behind the material and workmanship. The traces were too thin for use with our 2 wheeled cart and a strong Fjord. They started to break. Picasso, replaced them with thicker/stronger traces at no cost by direct mail from Spain. Not cheap, but you get what you pay for... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: NFHR Board of Directors election
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the correction... Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marsha Jo Hannah Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:28 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NFHR Board of Directors election This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > NFHR BOD ballots must be mailed by November 1st. Oh, really? The letter that came with my ballot said, "must be postmarked by November 15th 2007 to be counted". Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR Board of Directors election
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Shameless plug: NFHR BOD ballots must be mailed by November 1st. I would appreciate your vote. Frederick J. (Fred) Pack All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
