Pat Holland wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
This message is from: Pat Holland pathollan...@gmail.com LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Pat Holland Pat Holland Executive Office Professional Dubuque, Iowa Area Confirm that you know Pat Holland https://www.linkedin.com/e/-emla4k-gh23rlmn-6n/isd/1959763959/c8qes4_P/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Pat Holland wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
This message is from: Pat Holland pathollan...@gmail.com LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Pat Holland Pat Holland Executive Office Professional Dubuque, Iowa Area Confirm that you know Pat Holland https://www.linkedin.com/e/-emla4k-gh23rsad-3a/isd/1959763959/c8qes4_P/ -- (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
auction May 16
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com On May 16 there will be an auction in northwestern Illinois at Gary and Pat Holland's farm. Besides an outstanding line of farm machinery, my tack, (English and western) training and driving equipment will all be included..I have some homemade unique pieces that I have developed/used for early/first time training horses to drive that some of you might find of interest. All cob size. For photos and complete listing go to www.lobdellauctionservice.com No horses are being sold thru this auction. Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
UP-DATED WEBSITE
This message is from: Pat Wolfe pwo...@istar.ca I've just up-dated my website with new articles and photos. Take a look. www.patwolfefjords.com It's our first summer-like day here in Ottawa and I'm off to drive the pair. Pat Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
racing pigeons
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com Per the message below: A racing pigeon will always have a band on one of it's legs. (VERY easily seen) When a pigeon is released (often great distances from their home) a band is attached so that when it does come home - it is removed and attached to a timing apparatus to document the time factor to find home and quickly. It's a race. I once worked for a Veterinarian who sadly lost his wife and 6 mt yr old son to a drunken driver. His hobby of pigeon racing was his safe haven to keeping his mind after such a horrific accident. Just for your information. Pat Holland *** This message is from: Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Karen McCarthy wrote: How do you tell a racing pigeon from a regular pigeon? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
tallest mare - Colorado
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com Catherine L wrote: There was a mare in CO that was 16 hands. Karen Mc wrote: Wasn't the owner Taffy Plaisted? can't remember the mares name but she was really horsey dead broke. Pat H writes: That was Taffy's mare...tipping 16 hands - she was used in the first evaluator training seminar in Co. I gave her a 10 for type, then Wayne Hipsley hit me over the head with his clip board.I loved her. ; ) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Pre-evaluation clinic
This message is from: Pat Wolfe pwo...@istar.ca Hello everyone, The CFHA will be adopting the NFHR evaluation program. This means we will be able to hold evaluations in Canada, and have the results recorded in Canada if the horse is CFHA registered or in the United States if the horse is NFHR registered. If there is enough interest in Ontario, Quebec and the Northern Eastern States I would like to organize an evaluation in the Ottawa area in the fall of 2009. I will be holding a pre-evaluation clinic March 14th on my farm. Please register by March 7th. I hope you can make it. For more information please contact Pat Wolfe. pwo...@istar.ca www.patwolfefjords.com (613) 256-0631 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
FYI Southern Wisconsin / Northern Illinois and HORSEN'AROUND magazine
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com There is a new Driving club established in Northern Illinois, for those of you around the Freeport/Rockford area. It is called The Northern Illinois Horse Driving Club. They have been up and going for a year now and have around 30 members. It is a nice diversified group, from those who show ADS, and also do parades, draft and pleasure driving. The President is Dr. Carolyn Sluiter and her husband Larry and she are very welcoming and engaging people. The club has lots of events throughout the year, clinics, parade participation together and pleasure drives. Most of the activities revolve around the Stephenson Co. Fairground area. Membership fees are nominal, camaraderie is large. Gary and I were asked to address the membership last week and it was a pleasant evening with some really nice people. For more information contact Carolyn at (815) 362-6002 and tell her I sent you, or contact me. I am not involved other than in a general member capacity. For those of you in the Midwest - the magazine: HORSEN'AROUND featured several Fjords on their Stallion Edition front cover - this past month. The Magazine's main office is located in Blue Earth, MN and the advertising sales representative, Becki Steier and their photographer, Mandy Jalnke met with me last year at the MWFHC Blue Earth show. They are working with the MWFHC to become one of our sponsors and run a special edition of HORSEN'AROUND - all devoted to the Fjord and the Blue Earth show - for s - for our 25th Celebration in 2010. These young ladies are enthusiastic, clever and ambitious. For more information about this publication go to: www.equinemonthly.com or call Becky at (507) 657-4663, their magazine is good quality and the advertising fees are VERY reasonable. Set up is FREE!!.. you can even send in a picture - just off of your computer, with text and they will design and put it together for you - very user friendly. When you call tell them you are with the Midwest Fjord Horse Club and I sent you. (I am not getting any commissions or paybacks on this - our Illinois Governor has the ticket on that one! ; ) Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Info needed - Indiana people
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com Hi List, I was hoping to contact someone in the Indianapolis area who would know of a good boarding facility for a Fjord mare. It would need to be of good quality and reputation. I have a very good client who lives in Indianapolis and sent me two horses for training, they are now ready for her. She also owns a farm in Iowa, but due to recent surgery and good recovery, she would prefer to board one or both of the horses near her home in Indiana before transporting them to Iowa in the spring, as she would like to try to ride and be around them, till the Iowa move. This client loves these two horses and wants a place that understands the feeding and care requirements of the Fjords. If anyone on this list knows of a facility, preferably with an indoor arena with quality ownership near the Indianapolis area would you please contact me personally. Thank you for your time and consideration. Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Blue Earth information
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com The 2009 Blue Earth show is now listed on the Events page on the NFHR website. If any one needs more information regarding this years show please feel free to contact me. Let me know what I can do for you to help you attend this event. Sincerely, Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Anvil's Torbjorn and Trygg
This message is from: Pat Holland pholl...@internetni.com really gives me hope to hear from someone who has been through this and come out the other side. I hope we have as much success with Trygg as you have with Joe, he sounds like quite a character. Hopefully, I'll be boring the list with my updates for a long time too :-) Krisse, I have worked with 7 Anvil's Torbjorn progeny. Several years ago 4 came to me as 7 and 8 year olds with out even being halter broke. I was hesitant to take them as I had never started any horse that age from scratch. All four came out from their un-education state, surprising well. For the most part all of the Toby sons and daughters have sense, and good minds. All 4 were started under saddle, by myself, I showed one at the Blue Earth show, under saddle with only 30 days in training and all four were sold to good homes where they continued as willing, trusting mounts. The other three were of various ages, two mares and a gelding. All had some training, one had some nasty habits and had three different homes before I got him in for training. He was an interesting schooling subject, he carried some of the descriptions you told about. It took some innovative thinking at times to get him to comply, but got the job done and he went on to be a youth's mount. Anvil's Torbjorn comes from some amazing bloodlines. bred by Orville and Anita Unrau whom are known for producing Fjords with good minds and work ethics and owned by Rich and Nancy Hotovy, respectable and honest breeder. Toby carried a Gold level 3 Medallion of Quality and several of his offspring earned their Medallions and continue to win, place at breed shows and in the open circuits as well as excellent, trusting riding (ring and trail), driving (pleasure and carriage), draft (competition and at home work), and exhibition (at Expo's, parades and Farm Progress Events). His sire, Rudaren had 51 progeny and his outstanding disposition fell in cleanly onto his foals. Toby had 67 progeny and I can only think of a few that did not do his sire proud. Toby died in 04' and it was a great loss to the breed. He left some outstanding sons and daughters to carry on his name, such as TUF Tana, owned by Mike and Susie Sadlon who use her a VERY safe and honest (and much loved) family and show horse. TUF Reba, owned by Rich and Nancy Hotovy - with a NFHR Gold Medallion of Quality is a do it all mare - riding, driving, single and multiple draft, TUF Julie with her NFHR Silver Medallion of Quality - is another outstanding offspring and TUF Voss owned by Patti Jo Walter, whom I personally rode, was an absolute wonder of a horse. Give your guy a chance, go slow and give him the benifit of the doubt for now - he has the pedigree and proof from his siblings to be able to do it for you. Good luck Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
It's good to be home
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've had a very long great show and business season here, at Fieldstone Farm - and perhaps now that Catherine Lassesen has made it back home too - she will share with you our combined efforts taking 14 horses (13 Fjords and one QH) to their new home in Nova Scotia for Kathy Monroe Nancy Barmore. It was definitely a trip for the memory books! Soafter all of that, I am home now - with three really nice babies for sale. All three are by Rokida's Niklaus - the GGG stallion (Great - Gentle - Grey). stallion owned by Mike and Susie Sadlon and standing at Patti Jo Walter's. One filly, Sulpher Springs Veronica, (DOB 5/15/08) And two colts, Sulpher Springs Magnus (DOB 6/21/08) and Sulpher Springs Steffon.(DOB 5/13/08) They are owned by Mike and Linda Neperney. They all carry the good minded genes of Valea's Lee (Ron Kit Davis), Steinfinn (Roger and Diane Whitney) and all go back to Rudaren, Leidjo and Orrjo - (Orville and Anita Unrau). These bloodlines are proven time and time again - for their gentle nature and willingness to work for you without disagreement. For those of you who attended the Blue Earth Show this year, you saw first hand the outstanding temperament of Niklaus - he not only performed like a gentleman in big rail classes, but won the Jumpers Choice class with Patti Jo's assistant trainer, Eby Higdon - and he did so with class, unreal athletic ability and space to spare! Nik has done it all - serving as a lesson horse, ridden western and English, been in parades, drill teams, recently a dressage show, and represented the breed numerous times at the Midwest Horse Fair. All three of these babies carry Nik's temperament - they are all brown duns - and very nicely put together. I have them halter broke, standing tied, they have been bathed, clipped and are currently in daily manner lessons. Mike and Susie Sadlon, Patti Jo Walter and I are making an attempt - together, to keep the bloodlines of the REALLY good minded Fjords alive and well. Nik personifies the nature we were all originally attracted to by the Fjord horse, - that great mind set, that says: whatever you want, I'll try my best for you and perhaps a discussion might come from this thought that in some cases we are loosing that mind set - the all around trait of the Fjord Horse. Some days it appears to me we might be headed in the direction of what happened to the Morgan - and I sincerely hope that doesn't happen. So, anyway..three good minded babies for sale, contact me privately for more information. www.pathollandtraining.info Patti Jo has kindly offered her website for pictures of the three and hopefully soon I'll get those to her. But check out her website www.franciscreekfjords.com for more information on the GGG stallion Rokida's Niklaus. Canada is beautiful, everyone up there must be on some sort of great drugs or it's the water, but I've never seen such a happy/content group of people! Nova Scotia in particular is a step back in time and Kathy Nancy's new farm is beautiful. A home built in the 1840'son the water (that is when the tide is in - oh my the tide!) We enjoyed great company and conversations along the way - and finally got to meet the Rune half of Catherine. By the way, even when we bought unlimited, international, coast to coast, interstate, nuclear war coverage on our cell phones, we were still left cell-less in many places in Canada - so there are a whole bunch of unanswered frantic text messages to my children still wandering out there in cyber space that someday - someone will receive! But now it's back to business at home and Like some little girl with red shoes once said there's no place like home. Sincerely, Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Classified site
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, Personally I think your site for classifies is great. And thank you for your work. I don't know about the rest of those on this list, but I'm swamped right now - in the middle of show season - trying to finish up at home horses in training, the list goes on and on. Perhaps the reason your not getting feed back is that many others are in the same boat. I hope you will feel encouraged to continue the classified site and know the appreciation we all have for your work to help us sell and/or find good horses and tack. By late October things may have slowed down to the point where I will utilize your addition to the Digest. For those of you going to the Columbus Carriage Classic and Villa, see ya there - Villa is especially large this year - should have some exciting classes to see. We in the Midwest are extremely fortunate to have three top notch Pleasure Driving shows for our use and the Fjords always do so well at all of them. Pat Holland Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Pony Web
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Jeanne for your work on Pony Web/Pedigree Search now with the evaluation scores. The new NFHR web site looks great, but to be honest with you the pedigree site is all I ever really use off the site - usually several times a day. I was so pleased that part of the site did not change, and now with the scores added - it is simply perfect. For those of us ancient people with dial up and limited technology experience - many sites are off limits to us, I understand we are the odd ones out there - and things change and grow. We're still trying to hang in there with you all, but to give you an idea - and a funny story to boot... We live in a valley - pretty much out in no where land. Dial up and only one line. This year alone the phone company has had to come out FIVE times to fix our service. I am getting to know our phone repair man by first name. The first two times our phone line was struck by lighting - (repairs #1 #2) they had to run another line for us but didn't put it under ground yet, when my brother in law cut the line with our lawn mower (repair #3) then the township was putting in a new bridge near us and ran the phone line OVER a creek - and we had a flash flood which again took out the phone line (repair #4)so the phone company came back again last week because THAT temporary line was chewed on by some type of animal - (repair #5)... do you all think God is trying to tell us somethinglike I am not to be connected - first lightning.then flood..then he sent wildlife to disconnect me! Good golly I can only imagine what will destroy our phone connect the next time! If any of you own stock in Verison - your making a killing off of us this year. Thanks Jeanne - for adding the scores - WHEN I am on line it's great! Pat Holland Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Young people Sami Robin
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Sami for your comments on the 08 BE Show. We do try. Sami was a bit modest about her accomplishments at BE and the Evaluation. She and Ralph took Reserve Versatility and Overall Adult Awards. And she didn't just earn high blues in the Draft, English Riding and Western Riding tests she did so with professionalism and class. She knows what she is doing, her confidence and innate sense about horses comes through clear and honest. Along time ago Denny Emerson wrote a great article about it.It is that something you cannot put words to, give clinics on or write articles and books about - you either have it or don't - when working with horses. It is that little voice in you that tells you when to push your horse, when not to push, when to ask, when to demand, when to quit and when to try again. Sami has it. On the note of age, it wasn't hard to be a young person there at the Evaluation, as the majority of exhibitors carry our AARP cards along with our tests. BOTH young girls, Sami and my daughter Robin did their generation proud. Robin got a 93 in the intro draft test with her big gelding Pine's Edge Ivan - (Rokida bloodlines - back to the Unraus - love that pedigree) and it was one of the nicest draft tests I've ever seen. The partnership she has with Ivan is unreal. She's worked with him for many years now - taught him draft work herself, on her own. She's shown him in every event, conformation, showmanship, driving, draft, riding - English western, trail, and games. Robin took her well earned Medallion of Quality with her to college and eventually when her work load is eased some we want to send Ivan down to Murray State for her as well. Where, he'll probably make Dean's List too! Tip your glasses to the young people - their future is bright. With pride Pat Holland. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Thank you Fjord Digest
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, Thank you for letting us post the BE results on the list. I know it was long and took up alot of space. We had several new members show and do nicely this year and I thought they should get credit for all of their work and brave-ness. After looking over the FINAL results I see we had 490 some entries. I wrote awhile ago we were near the 700 mark. When I left home with the original book - from sent in entries I had 533 . At one point during the hectic pace of the show I went over the book and saw what appeared to be many additions - however as you can see - the entries were no where near the 700 I stated. I apologize for stating that. One of the things I try to do is create a show which is as inexpensive as we can make it to just get your horses there - low stall fees, low class fees - then hope you will put your horses in as many classes as you wish - I try to introduce new classes where people can try for. Something they might not have tried before like the Limited Log Pull. Another example is next years Suitable for Dressage class. We have many members who want to have dressage tests - but for the life of me - YET I have not been able to find the space in the schedule to do so - so this Suitable class will be a rail class - asking for a halt, working in frame, w/t/c maybe have an Intro class - with just w/t and a Training level class and maybe even a 1st or 2nd level class. Next year I hope to add a SMALL cross country driving class - I will need volunteers for this one - so email me privately if you would like to help make this new class doable. I'm working on the 09 show as we speak..and the 2010 show... I've gotten many suggestions from this years show we're still moving on... Thank you Pat H. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth 08 - 09 AND 2010
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Patti Jo for your post on the BE show. It was another great show, Again I want to thank everyone who braved the gas pumps and maxed out credit cards to attend. I also want to thank all of you who sponsored classes and the great group of volunteers, whom every year step up and go beyond the call of duty We ended up with 86 horses and over 700 entries. Using an Open Show judge with no political affiliations turned out to a good call. Out of a bit over 100 members attending I had two individuals with issues - so it would be safe to say we had a 98% approval rating? After the show in a private conversation with the judge he said he came away with an enormous appreciation for the Fjord breed and our members in particular, the versatility of the breed, the quality of horses, exhibitors and the family-like atmosphere of the entire show. I believe if we are trying to change the open show worlds opinion about the Fjords we just lite one candle that will burn for a long time. With that said the 08 show is packed away - and I am working on the 09 show as we speak. HOWEVER!!! I am also working on the 2010 show now as well - that is the MWFHC 25th Anniversary Show - which will be at the Blue Earth grounds in conjunction with the 150th Anniversary of the Fairbaught County Fair - the 2nd oldest county fair in Minnesota. I am working with some major national/international corporate sponsors whom share my enthusiasm. I am also working with a national known trainer who will be taking a Fjord - training it - into his act and we will be raffling the Fjord off afterwards - and someone will end up with a very special horse. I wish I could give more details, but I ASSURE you - you will all be surprised and will want to be in Blue Earth in July 2010. This is going to be an event to thank YOU.the exhibitors volunteers who have supported our humble efforts for 25 years with a show, at the same place, with the same atmosphere and with the same heartfelt try - it is important to me to show my appreciation to all you as individuals - who come every year, have attended in the past or always wanted to come. Lastly I cannot end this post without mentioning my family. I've been showing horses for somewhere near 43 years, I have been privileged to have worked as a private trainer with some great horses - and stood in line - in front of some big name trainers - in shows with more entries than there are Fjords in North America. But I have NEVER felt more proud, felt happier, or more accomplished - then when I see Robin in the ring smiling, and Gary laughing - seeing them both showing and having them both there with me it just doesn't get better than that. With Sincere appreciation to all of you, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth 2008
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, all of the entries are in - and we have ended up with 82 horses coming to the 23rd Annual Midwest Fjord Horse Club Show in Blue Earth - and 533 entries. I am so proud of these numbers and want to THANK ALL of you for supporting this event. We have several new people showing for the first time, and many returning exhibitors who skipped a year or two. Thank you for taking a second mortgage out on your homes, to fill your gas tanks - your ALL the best! Sincerely and with appreciation, Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Attention to people who might have gotten hurt/scared
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those of you who are fearless on a horse need not even read this post, but if you have gotten hurt and it created a bit of fear in you and you want to get back on and get your confidence back I have a great Fjord horse for you. I've known this mare since she was a weanling, I was privy to her sale twice - where she did exactly what she was suppose to do for each of them, and now she is up for sale again. Her name is Sylvia. She is 11 years old - brown dun - 14- possibly 14-1 hands - was imported from Holland, by Halstor, (sire of Prisco, Orinke and Raldiene) out of the Elite mare Jasmijn. Green Valley Farm first imported her when we wanted more breeding prospects out of the mare Jasmijn - we only showed her once and she won her halter class at BE. I broke her to ride and drive - then she was sold to a local Doctor's family for their children and she truly took great care of them. 100%When their horsy children grew to collage age - I sold her to a family up north - where once again she did her been there - take care of you 100% She hadn't been driven in like 5 years - and I put her to - like it was yesterday - the same with her riding...solid solid. Want to share a story about myself and Sylvia - first of all I am not fearless - I never was a real strong/bold rider even in my youth - I could stay on and do some good things with some non-good animals but fearless - never. Over the past few years I have taken a few falls and mishaps that has caused me to become, well more cautious. When I had Sylvia in my barn to sell for the Dr's family - I had to have a total hysterectomy. Not the two little holes kind - but the C-section kind. While I recuperating - people would come around and say things like - oh I had that done and was riding in two days..or love these - My Wife - had that done and she not only mowed the lawn with a push mower, tarred the roof and baked 20 apple pies - but found a cure for cancer... you know what I mean anyway I was determined to get on a horse - shortly after surgery - just so in later years I could fabricate/elaborate the same such stories. But I did get on - and it was on Sylvia because I knew she'd do nothing goofy. She is slow - her jog will put you to sleep - even WATCHING her jog will put you to sleep - and her canter - well.there IS one but it's hidden well ; )But she is full of heart, sweet as they come - and has many many years left in her to take care of another person. I honestly would buy her - as we are looking for a few mares for our stallion - but so far Gary has just looked at me when I said I wanted her... he hasn't come up with a plan on how to buy her. Write me privatly if you are serious about getting a horse that will take your fear away and get your confidence back. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Patti Jo
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti Jo is home - on blood thinners - email her I'm sure she'll like to hear from all of you who contacted me privately. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Patti Jo Walter
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti Jo Walter was just admitted into the hospital today with a blood clot from her knee injury/surgery. Lets all keep her in our thoughts. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth - what it is all about.
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Below is an email I just received, I wanted to share this with all of you, the membership in general and to some of you in particular - actually I get these kinds of messages frequently - more than the negative ones. It's human nature to take to heart the complaints and forget the compliments. When we took the survey earlier this year some comments stated we were not friendly to new comers - not youth friendly. Last year the Holtz's had a granddaughter that was new to showing and wanted to go in showmanship - during the show last year - I took their granddaughter aside and worked with her and her horse for a good hour or more - not in the limelight, but off to the side by their stalls.the Holtz's are actually very very good horsepeople - they just do not give themselves the credit due. I offered the use of our Ivan gelding if they needed him, as he is a been there- done it. Sometimes things happen in the background that everyone does not see - the help we offer new people, the things we do to solve problems and try to keep everyone relaxed/welcome/happy. The below email is what I feel our show is really all about, and I am forever grateful that now in the later part of my life I can be a part of this. OH and by the way.. as of date.this years Blue Earth show is at 80 horses coming. I am THRILLED with this. When I first chaired the show many years ago the show ran between 70-80 horses - our 20th anniversary show was bigger - and the last few shows ran around 100 horses. Considering gas prices and the cost of living in general - I am very happy with these numbers. Pat, Thanks for your offer and also your kind words. We should be good this year as our old reliable (6 years old) is back in business-being out last year with a colt. Just wanted to check on the rules as our granddaughter might want to try another horse in a different class also. The mare she will use in halter class is not as 'pretty' as our other mare...her beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but Ella is totally comfortable with her. Denny and I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for all the work you put into the Blue Earth Show. We entered the horse world a bit late...always had a riding horse...but had never attended a show. With the Fjords we are having great fun. We are not in the horse business...so the Blue Earth show is a good fit for our family.Good fun, good people, good horses. We were happy to see it will be there at least until 2010. I'm know it must be hard to coordinate all the classes, etc. and there will always be a complaint or two (not from our camp!) so we need to say thank you to you and all the others who find the time and energy to set everything up. See you soon. Sincerely, Margie and Denny Holtz and company. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
new lodging at Blue Earth transport
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was contacted by a women in Blue Earth who rents out a 3 bedroom home, remodeled, 8 twin beds, fully furnished kitchen - by the day or overnight use. This could be a very economic way to stay if your traveling with a group or a large family. You can contact her at (507) 526-2309 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also a member (with sudden problems with their truck) is looking to share a ride/and expenses if you are coming thru the sountern Twin City area to the Blue Earth show. Contact me for more information. Thank you Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Driving and draft workshop
This message is from: Pat Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 day hands on driving and draft workshop June 23rd. to June 27th. I now have space open as a riding accident has forced a cancelation. $550 lunch included. BB available locally. You will find the workshop information on my web site. www.patwolfefjords.com (613) 253-0631 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Columbus CC Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you that drive in the Midwest, you might have heard the Columbus Carriage Classic has been canceled due to flooding. The show has been rescheduled for August 22, 23, 24. I'd like to suggest that those of you whom might have wanted to attend the Columbus Carriage Classic but were unable to do so in the past due to the date, think about going this year. You can use the Blue Earth show as schooling and your horses will be better acclimated afterward. A win/win situation. Even with the gas prices and weather - entries are coming in for Blue Earth and it looks like we are going to have another good show. THANK YOU to everyone who continues to support the MWFHC sponsored Blue Earth Show. If anyone has any questions regarding the Blue Earth packet sent out, please feel free to contact me by phone (815) 591-3658 leave a message or contact me via email. ALL questions, comments and suggestions are welcome. If anyone has not gotten their packet, let me know and I can still send you one. Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Congratulations
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations to Jessica - good going! What a great pair you make. Talk about educating the public on what a Fjord can do... you've made the Dean's List! And congratulations to Mike Susie Sadlon and Patti Jo with Nik. I will second the motion on what a wonderful stallion he is. Mike Linda Neperney delivered Nik to my farm in route to Patti Jo's - I had the luck of playing with him for two days and what a wonderful horse he truly is. Mike Linda took great care of him, but only used him for breeding - by the way they have several young offspring of his at their farm in Straford, Iowa - four yearlings and three alongside. You will be hearing allot about Nik this coming year - and might want to purchase a baby from them before they are sold. Mike N. is going in for surgery this summer and I've helped them place some of their other horses for them. They have some of the best - foundation bred Fjords - for sale, call or email me for more information, or Patti Jo can direct you as well. Nik walked off the trailer a total gentleman - and I have three breeding age/mature stallions and mares in heat on grounds here. We gave him some time to roll and get off his sea legs - then I rode him - after three and 1/2 years in a pasture with mares - he didn't miss a beat. Total attention, kind, sweet, ...right with the program. I even had Robin get on him - totally took care of her. He is a perfect example of what the Fjord is all about. Someone mentioned awhile back a stallion should have THE presence the kind of presence of look at me...(and if you don't look at me I'm going to scream and fidget until you do) - Kind of a Tom Cruise kind of a thing.. Nik and those like him don't have to scream and posture - they act more like a John Wayne - quiet and confident. Congratulations to all. Pat Holland - in northwestern Illinois where after a record breaking winter - we are into floods/tornados and Amazon rains. I've noticed the animals are starting to walk around in pairs ; ) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
new grass vrs one flk hay
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Amy Goodloe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how much time on pasture equals one flake of grass hay? It takes exactly 2.3 seconds or 4.6 mouth fulls = FFM (Fjord Full Mouths) to equal one flake of grass hay cut two years ago in a drought.. This time of the year they will also gain weight on pasture smelling it, seeing it or jogging past it. If your cutting your lawn make sure you bag it up right away - other wise just the thought of cut grass will propel the need for you to enter your Fjord into a Jenny Craig program immediately. Spring pasture + Fjord = weight gain. Newton's Law #6 ; ) Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth Show Packet
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Blue Earth Show packet went out in the mail on Monday - the 12th. 169 of the guys! The Post Office just loves us! Thank goodness for self sticking stamps - If anyone has any questions regarding the packet please feel free to call me (815) 591-3658 or by email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I got everyone who asked for the packet, in addition to those on our mailing list - if you have not received the packet by the end of the week, let me know. I'm actually a bit early this year getting it out - usually I'm stuffing envelopes during the Preakness. - Have a safe breeding season and show season - and see you in Blue Earth in July. Gonna be another good show. Pat Holland, MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The Blue Earth Show packet is near completion and will be going out in the mail next week. It will automatically go to all MWFHC members - if you are not a member and wish to become one please go on line off of the MWFHC link on the NFHR website for information to become a member. If anyone has any questions regarding the show please feel free to contact me via email [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've added two new classes, Jumpers Choice,and Log Skid Limited, divided up some of the other classes - separating the weanlings from the yearlings - and combined the Novice Men's and Novice Women single driving class. The Fairbaught County Fair BOD have given us MORE room this year to utilize for warm up, holding and possibly in the future we will offer a cross country driving class. Your MWFHC executive committee and show committee has worked especially hard this year to make this show user friendly and welcome all Fjord owners. Thank you to everyone who has supported this event each year, we're looking forward to seeing you in July. Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Betsy Scott
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betsy's funeral has been arranged as follows: Saturday, May 3,2008 Visitation: 11 am (no visitation on friday) Service: Noon Lunch to follow, location TBD Location: Gearty Delmore Funeral Chapel 3960 Wooddale Av. S. St. Louis Park, MN 55416 952-926-1615 Cards can reach Michael at their home: 4207 Salem Av. St. Louis Park, MN 55416 Obituary (detailed) notice will be in the Mpls Star Tribune by Wednesday (www.startribune.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Interesting sale package
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] With a soft horse market right now, we are finding some interesting situations out there coming up for sale. I guess one would say it's a buyers market now. I am privy to the sale of a really great stallion and a few mares - if someone is interested in getting into the breeding aspect. The stallion is Rokida's Niklaus, a 15 year old GREY - of the deep dark grey. he is 57.3 with a 9 cannon - breeder was Ron Kit Davis - known for the great disposition and work ethic. Nik was evaluated on onformation - he is by Valea's Lee and out of Ro Sandy's Vena by Anvil's Rorik - of the Orville Anita Unrau linage. Nik, himself is one of - if not the best disposition Fjord stallions I have ever seen. I watched him many times when you was used at the Midwest Horse Fair, riding English, western and jumping - UNREAL - quiet and sweet. He held no opinions of himself, he was one of those horses that kept his stallion behavior checked. Along with Nik, the owner is willing to sell a couple of Steinfinn daughters - again, keep in mind DISPOSITION. - Fair Acre's Ole is a Steinfinn son - and carries that great quiet/wise mid set. So here it is - you get the disposition and color, all wrapped up in a neat tidy package for someone looking to begin a breeding program - I believe Nik can be handled by just about anyone without an worry and he and the mares already have the history and base to build off of. Do not shy from the age - 15 is not old - remember how well received Hostar (at the age of 19) was received at the 25th Anniversary show. Nik has tons of years of good work in him, and he deserves to be kept intact and allow this great pedigree to go on. Contact me privately for more information. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Thank you
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you to those who contacted us regarding finding an overnight layover for Roger Mulnar, new Fjord owner, transporting his horses for the first time. I KNEW you would come thru. He's all set. It's a great world we've created among ourselves with our horses. Thank you Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
a new Fjord owner - attention Northern Wisconsin people
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if someone in the northern part of Wisconsin, could help me, help a new Fjord owner. A wonderful couple bought two Fjords from David Lusty - He will be traveling the middle of next week - I think David is about 2 hours from St Paul area - the new owner lives in northern Michigan - apparently it is close to a 12 hr drive and he would like to overnight somewhere between David's and his home in northern Michigan. He is a relative new horse owner and these are his first Fjords. He wants to do right by the horses and give them a good transport - and worried he, with a friend might not see signs of stress with a 12 hr drive. I believe he wants to over night on Wednesday evening. I told him about all of the great Fjord people who usually come to the aid of all of us and was wondering if anyone in that area would consider offering him an overnight layover - a place where he can let the horses out for a night. We looked on the Wisconsin map and think the area around Wausau or north of there would be a good place to hold over. He is coming down thru the UP. The new owners name is Roger Mulnar, very very nice man. his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] he is a retired pilot. If anyone can help, you can contact him via email - or contact me privately and maybe we can all help him. Thanks everyone. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
MWFHC survey
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've received several emails regarding the survey we're handing out at the MWFHC winter meeting. This is something we've been talking about for sometime, and we would like to get it in the hands of all members eventually. We felt offering it to those who were coming to the winter meeting was a good beginning in this process. If there is anyone who would like to fill out the survey and cannot attend the winter meeting please contact me and I will forward it to you. I just ask that you respond to it before the winter meeting, either by copying the form and sending it to me or answering the questions via a reply email. Thank you for your time and suggestions. Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Midwest Fjord Horse Club Winter Meeting
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all Midwest Fjord Horse Club members, If there is any chance some of you are sitting on the fence (so to speak) about coming to the winter meeting or not - please consider attending. On Saturday I am going to hand out a questionnaire regarding the MWFHC, Blue Earth show and I would really like your input. There are some important questions on the survey and with the show growing and continuing changing each year we want to maintain your interests. All of the show committee members will be there. I will collect the questionnaires Saturday night and address the results at the meeting Sunday after brunch. Thank you for your time and hopefully will see you in February, Pat Holland MWFHC Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Nice article on Fjords
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary Ofjord sent me the site www.duluthnewstribune.com where a great article about her and Jon's and Philis Anderson's Fjords are highlighted. Mary and I have gone back and forth about our riding styles - she and Jon enjoy doing real stuff with their horses - riding on trails that mountain goats would have trouble traversing - where I feel accomplished with a good circle in a level ring and a good halt at X. Check out the site - it's written nicely and there's a video too. STILL getting snow in NE Illinois Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Nutrena Lite
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know of many people who switched to Nutrena Lite Balance after the 25th Anniversary Show but will let them speak for themselves. I wrote about feeding Nutrena Lite a couple years ago, it wasn't by choice, our local/long time feed provider switched from Purina to Nutrena - I really like the Lite product. All of my Fjord horses, and those in training with me are on it. I use a Nutrena 14% Omalene mixture - growth (with Molasses) on the youngsters and one very old pony (not Fjord). I also use the Nutrena Lite product on one Irish Sport Horse. The amount given (anywhere between 1/2 lb per feeding to 1 1/2 lbs per feeding - twice a day) depends on: age weight amount of work individual demeanor predisposed to injuries their free choice intake and what kind of shape they came to me in (I've had them come to me obese and underweight) And most importantly the quality of hay given. Our hay is tested. The above formula is when the horses are in a controlled eating environment, in the spring if they are on pasture (for Fjords - more than a split second) then all of the above needs to be reanalyzed and reconfigured. If I had known about the Nutrena Lite product earlier, I would have used it. I am pleased with the results. Thinking now, I don't think I've ever fed two horses exactly the same, ever. Pat Holland, where if we get anymore snow here in NW Illinois I'm going to wrap the Nobel Prize around Al Gore's neck! ; ) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Extreme Home Makeover preview
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Guys, Did anyone happen to see the preview to next weeks Extreme Home Makeover show? It's a makeover in Maryland and shows a Fjord in a handicapped riding program. Anyone know whom this might be? Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
WW Reidar and SNF Maarta
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was great to see WW Reidar on the front cover of the Jan/Feb issue of Driving Digest. Congratulations to owner, Kathy Johnson and Linda Syverson-Kerr driving him put to an antique cutter. Beautiful picture and Linda's smile says it all. Grab a copy if you can get one, it's a keeper. It was also great to see SNF Maarta owned by Neil and Ruth Sorum, ridden by Lauren Chumley highlighted with three great pictures in the Nov/Dec issue of EVENTING (official publication of the United States Eventing Association). Congratulations to all of you and your dedication and honest hard work you all have put into training and getting these great horses out there for the world to see. Respectfully, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth - and MWFHC winter meeting - must come
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Laurie and Kay for responding to the question what is Blue Earth. As with Jen, from Texas, perhaps there are others that might find the below information interesting. In 1985 Two Fjord breeders, Mitch Perrizo and Roger Whitney exhibited their Fjords at the Fairbault County Fair in Blue Earth Minnesota, a very small town off I-90 known for it's agricultural background and connect with Senica Foods (Jolly Green Giant Brand), where there is a huge statue of the Green Giant. From just a few Fjords as exhibits - the Fjords. as usual brought more and more attention and by 1990 -1991- the Fairbault County Fairboard and the newly formed Midwest Fjord Horse Club joined forces and through hours and hours of working together, understanding, tweaking, sweat and down right care and pride - for not only the breed but our members as well - we have today the largest Fjord event in North America - every year. If I were to list all the people who made this happen - you all would still be sitting at your computers, reading that list - far into the new year. We are celebrating our 23rd year there, this year - and for the life of me, looking back, I am still in wonder and hold great respect for those who work this show, support this show and keep it alive and well. This is a good time to bring up our MWFHC Annual Winter Meeting, to be held February 23 24 at the Whal Equestrian Center near Sterling, Illinois. Dawn Schlickman has done a great job again putting this event together, and one of the opportunities you will all have is to be a part of what the MWFHC is doing for our members regarding the Blue Earth Show. I will be at your service, at a table, with all the information on the 2008 show, and be there to answer any questions you might have. PLEASE - all of you try to come. Oh by the way, Jen over the years members have come from every corner of the United States and Canada to attend the MWFHC Show. EVERY one is always very welcome. See you in February Pat Holland, MWFHC Show Chairman (at Blue Earth, MN) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Merry Christmas Thank You
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you all - for the great discussions, advice, information, comical stories, sad news, good times, bad times, and general atmosphere of care and concern that comes through to all of us via the Digest. I'm not always able to respond to all the subject matter - flying by the computer whenever I can, I always look and see what's going on and it gives me a link to all of you from time to time. Thank you. And to all of those who support my small humble training business, thank you for another great year working for you and the wonderful horses you trusted me with. So as this year is slowly coming to an end, my family and I would like to wish all of you a happy Holiday Season and all the best in the New Year. Sincerely, Pat, Gary, Todd Robin Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
MWFHC - Blue Earth Show dates
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering what the dates are for the MWFHC's winter meeting and the BlueEarth Show. I just bought my 2008 calendar . * The dates of the MWFHC, Blue Earth show are set for July 21,22 23 2008. Pat Holland, Show Chairman The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
before anyone
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before anyone gets their undies in a bundle, the white issue Robin brought up is purely and really a college project, her idea and I said to throw it out on the Digest - email her privately with your opinions - so she can complete her work. Neither her or I are trying to change anything, cause concern or make an uproar. Thanks Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
pictures from the KHP
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin just sent me a CD with somewhere near 100 pictures and a few video clips of the Fjord demonstrations at the Kentucky Horse Park She got some great pictures of Lauren Chumley, Linda Syverson-Kerr, Kathy Johnson and JJ, Marsha Korose, Emma Schwartz, Kay Van Natta and Mike and Susie Sadlon, plus pictures of the facilities and grounds at the park. If you contact her privatly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] she might be able to send you a copy (if you pay for mailing) or send via email. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Pony Power
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure if any of you are following the eventing world but Karen O'Connor just took an individual gold at the Pan Am games in Argentina with a 14-1 hd PONY. (He is by a Thoroughbred and out of an Arab/Shetland x mare.) The Pan Am Games are three star, but according to the article, Karen said some of the exercises were four star, as did Phillip Dutton. There might be photos of this little guy, named Theodore O'Connor aka Teddy on www.useventing.com . Interesting story - maybe some day we'll see a Fjord there? Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Kentucky Horse Park
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope those who went to Kentucky this past week end will go on line and tell us how it went. I could not go, but Robin (my daughter) did, as did Susie and Mike Sadlon, and Kathy Johnson, and Linda Syverson-Kerr were part of the presentation - and I talked to them during the event - I sounded like they all had a blast and the demos went great with comments from staff that it was one of the best demos ever presented for breed representations. I know Robin was still laughing and reminiscing when she arrived back on campus and had a great time there. Thank you to those who took care of Robin for Gary and I, and thank you to those who did such a great job representing the Fjord breed for the rest of us. Sincerely, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Don't make
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure why it was brought up again. Susan - Longtheway Farm Susan, No need to look into that statement - as if there was a motive. I just wrote that as an aside - we all saw Tyler - a competent person take care of a situation, with quiet confidence, who knew what they were doing - and did it. Period. That was all. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
new business, no but.....
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie wrote: very strange. doesn't that look like one of pat holland's drawings? pat, are you in a new business? * Pat writes: No I'm not in the embroidery business, but Dawn Schlickman has been utilizing some of my drawings with my whole hearted consent and has made some very nice things. The Fjord head is one of my drawings. With the show season over, and finally getting things organized here at home, I have some time to draw again, and rather enjoy it. If anyone would like a custom drawing, or one of my custom cartoons, write me privately for details. There is a link on my website www.pathollandtraining.info The cartoons are especially fun to do - some of you may have seen them. They are created totally custom to whatever situation you've found yourself in. You provide me photo's of yourself, your horse, your dogs (or cats), hubby, house, children..anything..and everything - then give me the details of what happened - or what you would have liked to have happened - I add the sense of humor and my imagination and so far everyone's been pretty happy with the results. I love doing the personality horses - putting my own touch on how our horses think, with a twist of humor. With Christmas coming, some people have used my drawings for their own personalized cards, I'd be happy to work with you on any kind of design. Thanks Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
oh and...
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way...the original art work (in full color) - for what is on that shirt on ebay , is on my website - go under About Pat and down at the bottom is a link to my artwork. That picture I first designed when asked to come up with a new logo for NFHR - then when the NFHR logo was not changed, I used it for the Blue Earth 20th Anniversary show, we had it on all the trophies and so forth. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
what to take with
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awhile back there was a post from someone asking what to take with you when you drive a horse. Suggestions such as slow moving vehicle sign, cell phones and such came back. I wanted to write and suggest Take a Tyler... The Tyler I am referring to - in type - of person, is Tyler Schlickman - for those of you in the Midwest - he's the one with the black cowboy hat - of the group of hat guys at Blue Earth - (Rich Hotovy and his bowler - Mike Sadlon and his crunched straw). Tyler could also be known as the guy at the 25th with the electric tape that kept a four in hand together with their vehicle. Tyler is a quiet confident horseman. One that instills that with not only the horses he trains but the people who then work them. Take a Tyler person with you on a drive. However...if your going for a real trail ride, one of those big group rides - take a Dawn Schlickman. Some of you know I am not a fan of the trail riding, but I joined a group this week end ( 100+ horses) and did so. It was a two day, but I only went one, just so I could say I did it. But I could not have without Dawn. Ended up riding Dawn and Tyler's 3 yr old mare and she was great (Erland on the top side old Gene Bauer on the bottom side breeding). OK, I'm just chicken s---I really don't like narrow paths through trees and brush, or rocky, sandy, muddy, uneven footing - people riding too close or running around you - deer jumping out - hills - up OR down - water crossing, logs in the path, or anywhere near Indian burial grounds (they were buried out there for a reasonyour NOT suppose to be there). Dawn was a great companion rider - I told her if I got quiet that was when I was tense - and for her to just talk about anything - to get my mind refocused. Well - after 4 1/2 hours I think we covered every subject from birthing babies to rocket science. So this is a thank you to two great people - Dawn and Tyler - and the Fjords we rode. Unfortunately we didn't get any ribbons, points or trophiesI kinda thought one should, it wouldhave been well deserved - but in the end - you get a sore butt, a tired horse and another place to strengthen that friendship line we hold so dear. Thanks Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Indiana Horse Fair two other things
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was contacted by a member in Indiana regarding The Indiana Horse Council. They were looking for someone to present a Fjord stallion on their Stallion Row during the Indiana Horse Fair, April 4th, 5th 6th 2008. In Indianapolis. For more information you can contact me privately. On another note: I still have that little weaned colt for sale for Bob Long, and can't imagine why he hasn't been snatched up yet. LVG Solvar has the bloodlines of 14 Elite's, 19 lkl*, 2 lavk, 3 ster, 1 perferente and 1 model prestatie. He is by Kastanjegardens Fernando - from Denmark (twice Fjordhorse of the year) - and was 2nd overall in the 2000 stallion test. He was evaluated three years in a row with a 9 score in general impression. Kastanjegardens full sister was the high scored 3 year old mare 2001 and his dam Julie Halsnaes was high scored mare overall and earned her Elite. He carries a Medallion of Quality through the NFHR. There is allot of Halsnaes bloodline in this colt and it could be noted Rei Halsnaes was the first horse Imported TO Norway, apparently the Mother country thought so highly of this horse. LVG Solvar's bottom of his top side carries the rare bloodline of Plutonikk, by Pluto - the sire of the Modellon lineage) LVG Solvar's dam - Sari - H-97-0362 H-K -1335-M S2 imported from Holland - she carries a Medallion of Quality through the NFHR - known for her very quiet disposition, she rides, drive - team and single - her sire is Manus, known for his movement and by Havstad (deceased) which left only two intact sons, Thorvald (the 2nd highest scored stallion in North America) and one in Germany. When Solvar's full brother PCF Vidar (currently owned by Neil and Ruth Sorum - and also hold a Medallion of Quality) was sold from Alan Merrill I put together an information sheet on these bloodlines- and figured out that he carried the combination of Norway, Holland and Denmark all in one great little package. I have been working allot with this young fellow, everyday - twice a day since he came to me. He is totally halter broke, leads like a heeling dog. Totally weaned form the horse world and into the human world Cross ties, post ties with out pawing or fret. Baths (and loves it) Clips without twitch, ears, nose Picks up feet and stands for farrier Led over tarps, wood piles, ditches and piles of sand and gravel. Loads into two types of trailers - stock and my slant load with just a cluck I've led him around everything on our farm - around cows, calves (and even INTO the calf barn). He's great around tractors, haybinds, cars, trucks, 4-wheelers, motorcycles, cats jumping down from the hay loft, dogs, and my radio with WGN talk show blasting at him all day long. I've even had him in my barn office - He is stalled every night and turned out with my old gelding during the day and comes running when I call him. He does not bite or nip and slips his head into the halter. If I keep him much longer he'll have the job of secretary/book keeper - as I need one. Along time ago I said with the resources we have here in North America we have been importing from Europe for so long, we now have the best of the best from over there.. right here. No one could possibly debate his quality based on parentage - it is a culmination of it all and done so in North America. And to add to his paper proof, he is well mannered and as I got thru all the hard, tedious stuff already. The time consuming, often frustrating work is all done for his age. Conformation wise he is good. Good strait legs, very pretty headed, neck ties in high and well set - body balanced and proportioned, moves light and bright and correct, brown dun with good marking coming through. He is sport in type. He will definitely put ribbons on your wall. Lets get this little fellow moved and into a good breeding program, contact me privately for more information and pictures. He is located in northwestern Illinois. AND LASTLY - if Robin does get that video of the Blue Earth show up on You Tube - I highly suggest those of you with situations regarding your shows out west and other places to click on and look at it. It just might put showing horses in perspective and why the MWFHC show has grown throught it's 22 years of exhistance. Thank you Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
someone mention clippers?
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone was asking about clippers before? For those of you who know me, clippers are my best friends. I would clip hair between a horses teeth if it grew there. For all of my life I was THE #1 Oster fan, never would consider another brand and have three sets of Oster Golden A5's in my barn right now - not because they wear out, but because I use them so often I always have one pair cooling off - while continuing clipping. However this year Kathy Johnson, as a bonus, gave me a the Whal cordless clipper - I believe the number is 1854 or 8786. And they are really great. I shied away from the first cordless models because I thought they were gutless - but this particular model works as well - if not better than the electric/cord clippers. I thought I would use the cordless only at shows, as they come in handy when you are somewhere without an electric outlet - but I find myself using the Whals all the time now - so,first thank you Kathy and second, add a pair for your wish list, they are great. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
weanling for sale
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a quality youngster for sale - his name is LVG Solvar currently in my barn in northwestern Illinois. He is weaned, 4 month old, owned by Bob and Donna Long He is by Kastanjegardens Fernando (twice Fjord horse of the year in Denmark) with a conformation (NFHR) score of 86 and earned his Gold Medallion of Quality He is out of Sari an imported mare for Holland (Manus - Havstad) she received a conformation (NFHR) score of 82 and earned her Silver Medallion of Quality. His full brother, PCF Vidar also earned his Medallion of Quality. Both sire and dam and full brother and siblings have proven themselves in the show ring, by the evaluation system and in Europe. Solvar is currently being handled by me, he has learned manners, baths, clips, leads well, feet picked and ready for farrier, cross ties, loads. He has a refined head and neck, well attached, good legs and very well balanced body frame, sport in type. Brown dun with good markings. Please contact me for pictures and more information Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
WW Reidar
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to take this opportunity to Thank Kathy Randy Johnson for their trust in me with their great little stallion WW Reidar. After what I think was a very successful year of work and learning, Reidar went home after the LaCrosse Evaluation with a Silver Medallion of Quality and back to Kathy, whom was one of the best owners I have ever been privileged to work with. And I might add the most organized, compassionate, hard working and supportive owner and friend. THANK YOU Kathy, ..it was a great ride. After his success at CDE's and Pleasure Championships prior to coming to me, Reidar rode at the MWFHC Winter Meeting in Dixon, Il, Rode at and represented the Fjord breed at the Midwest Horse Fair, in Madison, Wi. Took First place in 4 Over stallions and Reserve Championship Halter at the MWFHC Blue Earth Show, placed in the Ride Drive, Won the Women's Working Pleasure Driving class, Placed in Turnout and Placed in cones, and at the Evaluation he upped his score to a high red in conformation, red in draft and blue in driving. Reidar is truly one of, if not the most athletic Fjords I have ever ridden or driven. Very young at age five with great endurance and willingness to perform, Reidar was for me a horse I will never forget and grew to become fond of for his understanding of what I was trying to teach him. Being in my care for nearly a year, he made me a better trainer and taught me Fjords come in all packages and abilities, and as trainers we need to work with them with thoughtfulness and care as individuals. I'll always remember the quiet rides we had at home, just him and me - his ability to learn so quickly and what a fun ride he was. The most memorable moment though was when I handed the reins to Linda Syverson in the Double Jeopardy Class at Blue Earth - Linda who had past experience with Reidar's abilities in cart - (and is fearless) but the metal to the pedal - so to speak - and really showed me what that little power engine can do - I have NEVER been in cart - going that fast and with such tight turns, and watching him worm his way thru cones was absolutely amazing (when I opened my eyes)I know I have never been INthen OUT of any class sooo fast. Wow! If anyone is looking to lighten up a good mare, I highly suggest breeding to this great son of Gjest. He will place movement and presence into your breeding formula, not to mention bloodlines of value and importance. Reidar will be shown by Linda Syverson at the Villa show next month, and I know with his talents and Kathy Randy's sincere love of him - his future will be full of high ribbons and beautiful goes. With sincere thanks and heartfelt graitude to been able to swing a leg over such a great horse. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Marta, Heldig and A2Z Thorson
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would also like to take this time to thank Kathy Monroe and Nancy Barmore for allowing me to train and show three of their horses this year - finishing up at the LaCrosse Evaluation. Their great little mare Highland Prairie Marta took home her Silver Medallion and Heldig and A2Z Thorson both received good red's in conformation. Both Heldig and A2Z received some nice remarks and both were pleasures to present, I was honored to stand in front of. It was a good evaluation in LaCrosse this year - although temps were hot and humid, leaving those of us who dress formal for the occasion with a good fluid weight drop afterward. ; ) Both Kathy and Nancy are a trainer's dream come true, owners - giving their trust and support unconditionally, and allowing myself to do my thing without question. (and always providing a cooler of cold drinks near by and great get together dinners at night). Life throws us all many ups and downs and I just want to thank those who brighten my life by sending me their good horses to work with, who give me solid reasons for getting up each morning to spend the long days in the barn doing what I love to do. With respect and gratitude. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #185
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiskar scissors are so much used by Fjord people that when we celebrated the 20th Anniversary Show in Blue Earth 2 years ago I wrote the company and sent pictures of our horses manes and how we use their product within our breed - I also sent pictures of all the different scissors I own and use of theirs - they then kindly sent us 80 some pairs as a sponsorship promo - it was fun. Imagine a company , for those of you in the corporate world getting a mailing of this sort - I'm sure there were a few good laughs that day at corporate headquarters - and I admired the company for making the effort for us. Good company - quality product. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
who decides
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Teressa wrote: What is the procedure for class participants to request that large classes be divided? Or is it something that one doesn't do...as in question the judge or show stewards? Or who does make that decision? ** Pat writes: It is the show managements decision to split classes or not - this is usually done prior to the show, when we get the entries in and see if a class out sizes the ring. I always send a special packet out to the judge prior to the show giving him/her an idea of how many exhibitors are in each class, this allows the judge to know how to pace himself during the day. If the entire show is well participated, often the entire schedule will have to be changed in order to get the days show over with in due time, as splitting the class adds triple time for each event. Another factor is the experience level of exhibitors for the class. In Novice Whip or Maiden Horse or First Year Green, classes will be divided due to the inexperience of the driver/rider and or horse in a more forthright manner than say in a Open Class, with aged horses and or experienced riders/drivers. The same thought process goes if there are so few in one class a class can be dropped or combined with another similar class. Managements decision. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Rail traffic -
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I actually rarely use the rail in a driving class. Too crowded and it subjects you to having go the exact same speed ( or not ) of the person in front of you. I also do not appreciate others using my hitch to slow their pairs down. I personally think that the world is too big to have 2 FIRE Breathing Dragons hanging on our fender. ( some of those old timers hitch teams come to mind, yeee ha ? ) This is a subject that needs to be addressed and hopefully a club or two somewhere will offer a clinic on traffic strategies in the ring. First of all the rail should not be crowded if the exhibitors know how to use space properly - if the ring is adequate size for driving (small rings designed for riding or in some cases uneven footing) makes for difficult traffic flow - and if the class is so big - that it is crowded on the rail - the class should be split. Driving your horse off the rail is not only rude to other exhibitors, but dangerous if the turnout your passing happens to come off the rail unrepentantly. I always tell my clients that besides ALL the other things you need to worry about in the ring - your own personal performance, listening to the announcer, watching what is alongside the rail, watching the judge, watching the ring steward, you ALSO have to take notice of who else is in the ring and their abilities in the ring and how their horses move. You cannot zone out while in the ring, nor show only for yourself. I try to teach them to use their corners to gain space, or cut a corner to get away from someone hanging onto your butt. In ADS division classes - you realize pretty quickly in your first class who is in the ring with you and how their horses move - so in the following rail classes you should utilize that knowledge to find clean clear spaces on the rail. I know in Reinsmanship, part of the judging is how you traffic your horse. I agree with Lisa that rail horses should definitely be driving in the open while training so that they do not become rail robots. If you happen to have a horse with a big trot and when the extended trot is asked for - passing others and coming off the rail is of course a necessity - but I say PASSING - not STAYING off the rail - it is unfair to your turnout to stay on the rail and blend in when you have a horse that has exceptional gates. HOWEVER if you are on the inside and they ask for that extended, the exhibitor on the rail whom you are alongside might have a big trot as well - and so in reality you are cutting him off - which is not good showmanship. It is a talent only gained through much experience on how to keep a good spot on the rail, clear from others - but it can be done and part of the showmanship factor. It's a luck factor too - I've had some great goes in large classes and been able to stay by myself on the rail and show off my horses - but I have also gotten myself in some bottle-necks that you can't seem to get away from. I guess the point here is if everyone or most of the exhibitors drove off the rail to avoid the crowd - the poor judge would be trying to judge horses as if he were standing in the middle of a six lane interstate highway. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
lost found @ Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone lost a nice English running martingale at Blue Earth I have it - it was laying by the wash rack. Also someone left a grooming box with brushes, hoof pick and such and a size small white shirt and a BIG honker of a pocket knife - well not a pocket knife - more like something you could kill a bear with. I can return them to you. And Bob G, you left your block (with the cute little handle on it) - that you put under your 5th wheel thingie - if your coming to LaCrosse I'll put it in my truck and bring it for you. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Two great mares for sale
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List, A very sad thing happened, I just came back from a clients home. Jill and Steve Chesler, clients and friends of mine who bought two very good mares through me a year and a half ago. Jill's husband Steve was mowing along a roadway to their farm and rolled the lawnmower onto himself, He died immediately. Jill cannot take care of the horses and will eventually move in with a son of hers. She has asked me to find homes for both mares. The mares: Reterra Alida was trained by Tyler Schlickman - and he did an absolutely FANTASTIC training job on her - she was part of his team that he did weddings with and he and them were actually in the Thanksgiving Day parade in downtown Chicago. Alida is 17 years young. She rides and drives, single and as a team. She is 100% honest, calm cool and great to handle and be around on the ground. She is a King Harald and Anvil's Torbjorn - Rudaren. Brown dun 14-1If anyone needs a confidence builder SHE is the one. She trail rides, anyone can ride her - The Pine's Dokka is the other one - a daughter of Alida - by Fair Acre's Sven by Orrjo. She also drives single or double, her riding is very nice, walk.trot, canter and has laterals too! She was trained by Jessica Katzman and Tyler. Jessica showed her at Blue Earth the year before last and last year she was shown by Keelie Finnel. Dokka is bred to our stallion Wood's Sven - a Silver Medallion of Quality - earned at the Winona/25th Anniversary Evaluation - Wood's son, Holden won the weanling/yearling colt class this year at Blue Earth. Wood's is a dark brown dun and has very good, calm disposition. Both horses have had excellent care - kept up on worming, vaccinations, farrier and given daily and very loving attention. Last winter they boarded at my place where I tuned them up for them - rode them separately and again took excellent care of them. Do not discard Alida due to her 17 year age.She looks great, is in great shape and is one heck of a honest mare. Buying them together is the best idea as they have been together all along - but they could go separately. When Jill Steve first contacted me about finding horses for them - they were new to the breed and Jill hadn't been around horses since younghood - I wanted to find two very well trained/bomb proof horses for them - I found them thru Tyler and Dawn Schlickman - both horses are what this breed is known for, usually they are hard to find because no one wants to let them go - this is an odd and sad situation - Contact me privately regarding prices at this time I do not know what she will be letting them go for, and considering the circumstances I didnot ask - she is overwhelmed right now, but wanted me to start working on finding homes for them . Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Robin's CD
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] How much are you and Robin asking for the CD ? I'd love to get one. ** We're not charging anything for the CD/with music. Robin had a great time showing in all of the classes she could, from halter, riding, driving, draft, youth and games - She wanted to do this CD, on her own and give it to those who just want a memory (like she did) of the show. When you email me please give me your address. Robin worked very hard prior to the show, getting the paperwork organized for me, working her gelding Pine's Edge Ivan everyday, most of the time twice a day She was welcomed by everyone - Cheered on by other exhibitors, Helped when she got into trouble in the log skid, (Thank you draft guys - your the best) Helped by adults (thank you Nancy Hotovy, Tyler Schlickman, Michael Kline, Kathy Johnson, and Linda Syverson - for being the adult where needed with a youth in cart - when I was busy showing) - Helped by Michael Kline, taking in her yearling colt - when I had two to take in - Watched over by all of you making sure she was safe in cart - and fedwhen I was busy. And this is her way of thanking all of you. You know it's funny - Robin only won one class - halter with Ivan.she was disappointed in some of her performance classes, not because she didn't win, but because Ivan just didn't do what they had worked so hard for here at home. But she left having had the time of her life. Having spent my entire life competing - seriously competing, getting ulcers over a win or not.the ultimate win for me was that she just have a good time. And she did. . Meeting new people (thank you Anna Poiter for joking and laughing with Robin while waiting for your classes and in line). Getting to see her old friends again, watching all of you compete so well, From my stand point..it just doesn't get any better than that. Thanks again everyone Life is good Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice size classes, well turned out horses and handlers and FRIENDLY, HELPFUL Fjord Owners! Our MWFHC - Blue Earth show went well again this year and I would like to thank everyone for making it so. The one thing that allows me to sleep at night is that not one person nor one horse got hurt, we might have had a few panic/anxiety attacks (mine) and most of us left sunburned - but all in all the show went great. For those of you who attended, Robin, upon arrival at home, made a wonderful CD/PowerPoint with pictures and music of the whole show - beginning with the Welcome to Minnesota state sign - and other additions - like the picture of David Lusty riding in the games classes and sitting on a chair (half asleep) holding his team of super mannered horses. Also great candid pictures of the youths in and out of the ring with everyone with BIG smiles. Anyone who would like a copy let me know and I'll send it to you. I won't be able to do it until the end of the month - I'm getting ready for the Lacrosse Eval and then taking Robin to Kentucky for college. It really was a great show - and I sincerely appreciate every one who came and every one who helped. With respect and gratitude to all, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Congratulations MWFHC
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to thank everyone who is coming to the 2007 MWFHC Blue Earth show. It does appear after a very busy last few weeks, putting the entries together, the show will have over 100 horses (106 to be exact). I am especially pleased that so many new people are coming and trying their home grown, hard work skills at a show. This in my opinion is what a good show is all about and I am happy we are able to create and hold a venue of this nature. All of you who have attended the show before please make our new-comers welcome, offer support and encouragement and most of all HAVE FUN!!! I am leaving Thursday the 19th. So if anyone needs me call my cell phone (815) 858-4046 or Robin's (my daughter) (815) 858-4042. We are staying at the AmericInn (507) 526-4215 where you can leave a message as well. My stalls will be located on the northwest side of the barn - if you can't find your stalls come see us and Robin will have a sheet showing you where your stalls are. If you have any questions during the show please see us or any of the show committee listed below. For those of you familiar with the Blue Earth Show grounds - there will be NO PARKING of trailers on the south east side - by the entry gate - we're leaving that area open for a warm up area. There will be allowed parking on the south west side - from the wash rack to the fair ground area and we will have three rows of parking on the north side of the barn (the Wal Mart side). Hook-ups are limited so I am trying my best to allow those who need electric hook-up to have it - some areas will be reserved for that purpose. Our MWFHC meeting and dinner will be Sunday night at 7:00 at the 4-H Building on the fairgrounds. Mary Ofjord will have a table there where you can pick up your numbers. Again, I would like to thank everyone who has helped put this show together. Roger and Diane Whitney, Andrew Hinrichs, Jessica Katzman, Rich and Nancy Hotovy, Mike and Susie Sadlon, Tyler and Dawn Schlickman, Patti Jo Walter, Mary and John Ofjord, Linda Syverson-Kerr, Bob and Therene Gudknecht, Chuck Kelly and DeeAnn Weed, Kit Davis and Robin Holland. Andrew, Kit and Bob are our TD's again this year. In the real world TD's (technical delegates) have the power of God to make sure all is well and SAFE. They have the power to say to you - your bit is on up side down, please fix it or as in Bob's case the experience to stop a run away, by just looking at the horse! ( God bless him).Look for these three people for help and guidance if you need it - they, all three have more experience, knowledge and common horse sense than Carter has liver pills - good people - use them! OK,...I'm gone.have a safe trip to Blue Earth and see you there! Always, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Lern by doing
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve wrote: On the other hand I would ask those who learn by doing, just where do you come up with ideas for what you are next going to try doing? Pat Writes: I think training horses well is just like what all the rest of you - who wrote in with what they do in their real livesafter awhile an instinct comes into action. No matter what you do - dig ditches, drive long haul trucks, brain surgery, fly planes, sell insurance, teach, marketing.whatever you've chosen for a living. A feel. An intuitive reaction from an action - comes into play long after you attended the classes and read the books on the basics of the chosen field of work.. And sometimes you go outside of the box to get a job well done. By feel. If your an Attorney, you have a feel after a while of working within the parameters of the law - over time - a feel for winning a case or working with a particular client one way and working with another client another way.. If you are a Doctor - a sense comes over you - after all the book learning - a sense of what is right to do, when something just doesn't feel right - and when to call in the troops for additional help or call it done. If your a salesman - you know from experience how to approach a client for a sale or whom to avoid. Or make a sale with a different slant. All of you were/are very good and successful at what you do in your real lives, otherwise you probably couldn't afford a horse to work with and enjoy. Training horse and as a matter of fact all animals I still believe depends on a feel that is difficult to write down. I once joked that working and training horses is like greeting your husband when he comes home from work - you instinctually know before he walks in the door what kind of a day he's had - the way he parks the car, the way he walks in the house, the way he puts the mail down, . you just know how to react, ... Go with your guts - listen to what your feelings and take your time. and Good luck. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #156
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve wrote: I'm really surprised to see such a response from a trainer like yourself. I would have thought you'd be delighted to find someone who believes they have anything to learn about horses. Pat H writes; I guess I was never much of a book learner. I always learned by watching - I cannot reset my message machine from the instuctions sent with - I have to watch someone do it - then I can. Everything I've learned about training was taught to me either by the horse itself - (trial and error) or by trainers I worked for and watched them. Not one trainer I ever worked for wrote a book, made a video or even gave clinics. They were good horsemen from experiance and years of trying to do a better job for the horse and their owners. I love it when owners want to learn more for the betterment of their horses - but sometimes I think too much is credited to the written word over the feel one receives working directly - everyday - alongside the animal itself. And so much of that type of work cannot even touch a written page. I mean, how can you write an article about when you know a horse has it - or didn't get it - or how one horse gets it on the first try - or how it feels when they finally are TRYING to get it but it's just not there - working with live - living animals is not black and white. Just too much quiet, feel there - Probably not making allot os sense here - but maybe someday I'll write a book for short, overweight people, with no necks who smoke. With humor on a 90+ degree day Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
what to do with books and DVD's
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if you could recommend good training books or DVD. In my own personal, opinion, MOST books on training should be used to fix the broken leg on your couch and the training DVD's for coasters. Find a good trainer, friend with ageless horse knowledge, or a relative with patience and common sense and go with self intuition. Training horses is not Rocket Science. It takes Time Consistency Confidence Proper environment Humor and patience like a box of rocks. Pat H ; ) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Blue Earth
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] The MWFHC Blue Earth show is coming along great - lots and lots of entries and more coming in as we speak. Lots of new people here this yearit's gonna be a good show. My daughter Robin is coming and if anyone wants her to cut the manes of your horses I'm sure she'll be happy to do it...(remember she's really REALLY good at it) ..she's going to be showing our gelding Ivan - in just about everything she can and is looking forward to showing with you all before going off to college August 18th She's another one of those youths who grew up around the Blue Earth Show - what a great present, we as adult horsepeople, can give to the kids..a place to compete, laugh, find lifelong friends and enjoy their horses. A place to make memories. See you all there! Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Jordbaer memories
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Karina's filly foal Jordbaer (Strawberry; a red dun now 6 years old) is the most wonderful mare you could ever imagine. It's funny, I remember like it was yesterday when we deceided to breed to BDF Kanada King for Karine. When we were shipping semen we had to get Penny Stucky's ok to call her vet and ship - and Penny was at a wedding in Florida.I remember calling her on her cell and the ceremony was just beginning (heard it in the back ground)... I can only imagine the conversation that might have been over heard - while the bride was probably coming up the isle. I also remember when Jordbaer was born - we had two mares bred that year to King, and Sophie slept down in the office at the barn. I don't remember how long she slept there but I think it was weeks, not days. She was born in Feburary and we were all a bit concerned about the weather and so forth. Both came out fine - We used to turn them out for exercise in the indoor which had a high solid kick board around it and when the babies played all you would see was these two yellow bouncing things pop up and down.I called them popcorn kids. I also remember that was a good combination breeding - Karine and King gave the best of both of them in terms of conformation. Just some memories shared Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
another good one gone
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just received information this morning that a very good, honest mare died of colic this morning. Her name was Karina - owned by Green Valley Farm. When I first started working for them she was Sophie's mount and her favorite - and remained Sophie's horse in heart and soul. Karina was a neat mare - not fancy breeding just a good solid mare. Did go Blue in eval conformation - and I think she got her S-2 but she took great care of Sophie in her early years of riding. She was a nice solid dressage horse and jumped early on in her career in eventing. Her best feature is that she could tell us who was a good rider immediatly. She never did anything to harm a novice rider, she would just do less and less - under a good rider she had a great flying lead change, light and bright canter departs and patience of a box of rocks. Honest in the ring as well as on the trails - I rode her at the Iowa Horse Fair, The Midwest Horse Fair and Sophie rode her at the big Equine Expo that used to be held in Louisville. We did a drill team together with Lindsey Sweeney and her group from the northeast - Sophie campained her in the Chicago suburbs dressage circuit and everytime Karina gave her all to Sophie and provided her with a safe experiance and hearfelt care for Sophie's well being. Karine was by the old stallion Sverre and out of a mare named Andreas who only produced two offspring which are now both deceased. Karina did have three offspring, Jordbaer, a filly by Kanada King and GVF Karina by Kastenjegardens Fernando (Ralph) and Rolf a colt also by Kastenjegardens. Jordbaer is owned by Elisa Harvy of Sandy Spring, MD. A great cross with Kanada King (deceased). It's nice to know she left some offspring to take on her part in life. She was 17 and I am certain her memory will live forever at Green Valley and those of us whom she touched. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
I'm back thank you
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] My computer is patched up - and I am back on line. Thank you- to all of you who contacted me the old fashioned way - by phone - with Blue Earth questions. If anyone has any questions, concerns or needs help in any way - you can now email me. I swear guys. when I retire I am going to throw my computer out the window and laugh as it crashes by MY doing. ; ) Entries are coming in and once again it looks like a good/big show is forming. See you in Blue Earth Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Columbus Carriage Classic
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] A congratulations needs to go out to Nancy Barmore and her good mare Highland Prairie Marta for an excellent showing at this years Columbus Carriage Classic held this past week end. Nancy AND Marta's first show EVERwas at last years Columbus show.. This year she was selected Concours d' Elegance from her division of the Novice Whip, and taking ribbons in 5 out of 6 classes. The only class she did not ribbon was Town and Country ( a cross country class) - of which our time was slow, (but clean) due to my advice to do so because of the layout of the course. With temps in the 90's it was a challenging show for everyone (people and horses) - but again the Fjords were well represented with Chet and Donna Thomas, Phil and Elsa Odden, Howard and Sophie Fiedler, and Joanie Kempros. An interesting entry this year was a young lady from South Dakota with an imported Norwegian Dole. An interesting breed of which I personally never knew of. Apparently there are few in North America, they don't even have a registry here. He was a chestnut with real feathers and long, long mane along with an exceptional disposition. Thank you Nancy and Kathy Monroe for giving me the opportunity to have trained Marta and coached them, it is such a rewarding feeling when clients go on and do as well as they have in tuff competition. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
confidence
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone out there willing to share about a big loss of confidence with horses, and their path back to comfortable horse using? It's the path back that I'm most hoping to hear about... Dear Kate, With my schedule right now, I an TOTALLY swamped, BUT I HAD to write you regarding the confidence issue, because I think it is a very very very important subject. I've been training horses since I was old enough to have an owner think I had something to offer his horse. Going back 30+ years. Fjords alone I've trained over 70 some, and a good percentage stallions. In my youthful years I did some amazing things with horses that, well .weren't so amazing. I filled owners walls with trophies and ribbons, I catch rode at the big AHSA (now USEF) h/j shows, and played with the Big Boys in the QH world, and at all the big time shows... and stood in line and in front of some pretty highly touted trainers in the nation, on horses bought with enough money to feed a small nation. A few years back I lost ALL confidence. Every ounce. It took a couple of ill mannered horses, too many times on the ground and a few comments from people who thought I was damaged property, to do it - but it happened. After spending most of my life with a horse under me, I really thought I was done. The first horse and person to open the door for me - to allow me back - to my old self was Patti Jo Walter and her stallion Fair Acre's Ole. BOTH were/are honest as the day is long and gave me back my confidence. Patti Jo believed in me and Ole took care of me. Two factors with major impact on regaining confidence. Since then, I've had other good/honest horses and great owners that have reaffirmed my abilities. A few years ago I wrote on this list about Denny Emerson..and how he wrote an article about him loosing HIS confidence on a horse. (he was on the US Olympic Team). I wrote him and he wrote me back with what I am going to tell you. He said to find a GOOD, solid...HONEST horse, a horse that will not take advantage of your uncertainties. (That kind of horse is out there, Kate - but they are worth their weight in GOLD). And trust him. Take all the time you need, walk until you are so bored of walking, you want to trot. surround yourself with people who believe in you (true friends) and it will come back. DO NOT listen to people who say,...:just do it because - I know it doesn't work that way.it comes back slowly, ... very slowly.and suddenly one day youhave a horse under you and your breathing , or driving and the old feeling just does come back to you - and it feels so good. I have been truly blessed by a supportive family and extended family of great friends and owners who trust and believe in me. With that in my pocket I was able to move on...and so will you. With respect for your concerns, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
MWFHC Blue Earth Show Packets
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Blue Earth show packets went out in the mail TODAY. Due to important family matters (Our son graduated from college and our daughter from high school within a week of each other) so I did not make my May 15th deadline. I apologize to all of you who might have been waiting for them, my children came first. The packet, for you who are on the Midwest Fjord Horse Club mailing list and those who requested packets should be receiving it in your mail boxes this week. If anyone else would like a packet sent to them please email me privately. The packet is complete. Enclosed you will find your entry form, class patterns, stall reservation cards, Versatility entry form and qualifications there of, sponsorship form, class schedule, safety rules and class descriptions. Please read the class descriptions and safety rules IN the packet sent to you and please bring them along with you to the show - as they are not the same as the NFHR Show Committee guidelines on the NFHR website. The show is July 23, 24 25 in Blue Earth, MN. We have 68 classes this year - a full line of conformation, draft, driving, youth, walk/trot, novice, maiden, open, riding (English western), trail, games, hunter hack and new hunter over fence classes. The Blue Earth show is known for it's open and friendly atmosphere and everyone is welcome. Thank you Pat Holland, MWFHC Show Chair The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Robin Holland
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I was writing my post about the Blue Earth Show - I realized so many of you got to meet and know our daughter Robin through the Fjords. She graduated from high school this past week and did so with high honors. She made Honor Society and graduated with a 4.5 GPA. On June 15th in Springfield, IL at the FFA Convention she will be honored as one of the top ten FFA officers in the state and is up for election for a state office. If she gets elected she will travel the state, nation and to Europe representing the Illinois FFA. She has been accepted into Murray State University, in Kentucky with 3 scholarships awarded and will major in instrumental music education. Once again a big thank you to Beth Sandy for helping to find a concert quality Oboe and to Nancy Barmore for the gift of a concert quality clarinet for her - (she plays 7 other instruments). And especially to ALL of you who have welcomed Robin into their horse lives, and have given her encouragement, love and friendship through out the years at Blue Earth, Midwest Horse Fair and other common attended horse events. Robin was a shy, introspective girl and all of you that befriended her left a part of yourselves in what she has made of herself. Andshe turned out really well. With love and respect, Pat Gary Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fair Acre's Ole
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Corinne Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote *** I found out about Fair Acres Ole and was once again in that shock awe of such a stunning creature. could not believe my luck - I knew this was one of those opportunities of a lifetime. So Ole will be coming out West Dear Scott Corinne, I've been meaning to write about the sale of Fair Acre's Ole - Patti Jo and I are friends and when she said she was selling Ole, it effected myself as well - most of you know the story about Ole and I, but I have to retell it for Scott Corinne. Awhile back when Patti Jo and Dave were expecting their first grandchild, Patti asked me to present Ole for her at an evaluation in draft and riding. I had taken a break from the Fjord world for a time, and this evaluation was a first in awhile - I was nervous - big time. I wanted to do well for Patti Jo and for Ole, because I knew what a great horse he really is. As I was getting ready for the riding test my anxiety just kept growing and growing - usually my nervousness would effect the horse under me - but for reasons I still cannot explain - I found myself hacking Ole around the warm up ring, riding off the buckle and HE was calming ME down. You could honestly feel him saying I've got it down, it's going to be okand it was. When he was at my farm, he was such a joy to handle. I am one of the old show people - I rarely go out of the ring, circles on level ground are my best friends - my idea of a trail ride is avoiding rain puddles in the outdoor arena. We own a 160 acre farm and I had never ridden the property - until Ole came - he is such an honest horse I was more than comfortable - riding every inch of the farm - having ridden most of my career in the ring, I grew to hate trail riding, until Ole - and when he left I truly missed the ability and adventure he gave me outside the ring. At his conformation evaluation Wayne Hipsley felt so strongly about him, he said this is the type of horse we need to preserve. You are very fortunate to have purchased this fellow and for one who knows his well, appreciates that he is going to a home that understands what a gem they are getting. I own a yearling son of his, which I am keeping intact, to try to do what Wayne advised - and for me to have a part of Ole here, forever. Congratulations to you and keep him well. Sincerely Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
interesting read and good going Fjord people!
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I just read an interesting article regarding what the AHA (Arabian Horse Association) is launching onto their programs - First they have enacted and approved (going into effect in April 2008, using 2007 to train and educate judges - a new conformation judging system which dovetails much like our evaluation program - where a horse is scored in seven categories that determine the Arabian breed standard. So. NFHR membersI think it's great we're already ahead of what some of the established breeds are doing. But even MORE interesting is a program called ACS (Arabian Community Shows) with the basic concepts of: 1) Affordability that emphasizes FUN over qualifying for regional and national shows. 2) General guidelines rather than strict rules. To quote from the article: ACS offer perhaps the most democratic show ring in the equine industry. A typical show may feature a fox hunting enthusiast wanting to try showing for the first time with her 20-year-old Arabian gelding, a 4-H girl and her mother sharing the same horse, a professional introducing a young horse to the show ring, or a teenager looking for a venue that won't use up her entire savingsACS is stepping stone for future Class A competitors, a growth opportunity for clubs and an invitation to everyone in the community to celebrate Arabian ownership. Everyone has to start somewhere - this new concept is for reaching out to horse owners and giving them a FUN, FRIENDLY place to show their horses, in a stress-free environment where people can learn and share in the joys of owning Arabian horses . They go on to say it seems to be serving as a model for the industry overall as both the United States Equestrian Federation and the United States Hunter Jumper Association have contacted AHA about the concept. As chairman of the Midwest Fjord Horse Club, Blue Earth Show - I would like to think - again- we are already ahead of this concept, as mentioned goals of the ACS - with affordability, FUN, friendliness and guidelines rather than strict rules- describe what the Blue Earth Show has always worked to achieve in it's 22 years of existence. Speaking of which, the Blue Earth Show packets are on schedule and going out in the mail his week. Anyone not on the MWFHC mailing list that would like a show packet contact me privately. Another great show is planned and waiting for all of you! See you in Blue Earth in July! Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
caution with the use of husbands
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a note of caution when asking help from your husbands - well, those husbands with farming skills. My outdoor arena was getting packed down so I asked Gary if he could do something about it - to kinda just fluff it up... so with his 165 horsepower tractor and 22 foot disk he proceeded to work my arena. My arena now looks into China and you could plant a 100 year old oak tree in it with room for its roots. He also brought up items buried from the Blackhawk War - if any of you are looking for ancestors of Indian heritage, we might have unearthed them today. On the good side however - he did clean my paddocks for me with one of the big tractors and loaders - all of which was done like in 2 seconds flat Gotta love em'. With humor and having a great spring Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
In honor to a great horse and his owner
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Several weeks ago Mary Ofjord lost a great horse to colic. Due to what Sonny did for Mary and how special their relationship was I wanted to share the particulars with all of you. Years ago I received a big sweet gelding in for sale, the owner, Mary Wine was offering him for sale, not because she wanted to, but her son suggested she was getting to old to ride and wanted her to sell him, and with deep emotions she did - she contacted me because it was most important to her that he went to the absolutely right home. I found that home at Jon and Mary Ofjords and indeed the match was perfect. Everyonce in awhile we all find ONE horse that we truly click with and that takes care of us in unique and kind fashion. Sonny and Mary was that match, . perfect in everyway. Now Mary really wanted a good trail horse, as most of you know where she liveslike,...no mans land.really rugged, half way to the North Pole!. Mary told me story after story how Sonny took care of her time and again and how he so very much loved trail riding. I believe she once told me they even cut trails off of him with a chainsaw! Not to mention the wild animals they came across - and the footing they traversed. Sonny was bred by Sharon and Bill Falck, who were founders of the Midwest Fjord Horse Club and the Blue Earth Show, retired from the horse business they left a solid mark on the breed thru their breeding practices. Mary Wine used him as a riding mount and boarded him at a busy dressage stable near Peoria, where he was the joy of the barn - many riders there exercised him for her - and he had a very good solid riding education in dressage.But the trails was where he absolutely enjoyed life. Sonne 's real name was Sonne Son of Grabb by Grabbson out of a daughter of Kinniknnick. Old bloodlines that need to be preserved. He was a big gelding - and beautifully put together - he took Reserve Champion halter Gelding at Blue Earth - he had that eye we find occasionally in some Fjords, big, soft and wise. It's always hard to loose any horse, but when they did what Sonne did for Mary it's very difficult. I was happy he was allowed to have such a good home, where they understood him and allowed him to do what he enjoyed and live his last few years doing it well - and I will be forever satisfied that somehow I was able to match these two together. It doesn't happen often. A great horse is gone, but will always be remembered. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Check it out - Blue Earth 07 and congratulations
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The current - up to date show schedule and class descriptions for the 2007 MWFHC Blue Earth show is up. Go to http://mwfhc.org/Events.htm to check it out. A new class is offered this year, due to popular demand and thanks to the extra effort of Andrew Hinrichs and Patti Jo Walter who are heading the organization of this class - the Low Hunter Over Fences Class. It will be class #34, right after the Hunter Hack class and before the afternoon trail classes on Tuesday, 2nd day of the show. Andrew and Patti Jo have offered to bring their own standards and poles, set up and design the class - so those of you with Fjords that can do a 2 ft - 8 jump hunter course - there's a good class for you. Thank you Andrew Patti Jo - what great members we have! Going to be another good show - AND soon to be Mr. Mrs Andrew Hinrichs - this week end will be their wedding! - congratulations, Andrew.. wish we could be there. Funny too - just one week before his wedding he's talking to me on the phone about Blue Earth - horse people,...gotta love them. I told him he could talk and think about Blue Earth during the wedding - but not on their honeymoon ; ) Life IS good. See you all in July - Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Congratulations Laurie
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] which brings me to oz, if I may get personal for a minute. Congratulations Laurie and to all of you who participated at the Mn Horse Fair. Laurie, I am so happy for you and your success with Oz at the Fair. Few people realize what a zoo' those expos can be - you really never know what is around the corner and we really do ask allot of our horses to be a part of such events. Every year I've taken a first timer and you NEVER know what will trip their trigger - one year I had a horse afraid of mini's, another year the Icelandic's threw my horse into spins, once just leopard Appaloosas were enough to send my horse onto Detroit - The hardest part for me has been when dealing with an anxious horse and then meeting up with an all American family with baby carriages - who of all things want to pet your horse - I mean how do you sweetly tell this family that if they come any closer they may end up as instant mashed potatoes. You did GOOD, Laurie.very very good. I'm proud of you,. and Oz..I truly know where you came from with your fears and I admire your tenacity and spirit.good job girl. With joy for you Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
2007 Blue Earth Show
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, The show packet for the 2007 MWFHC, Blue Earth Show will be going out in the mail on May 15. You will receive it via snail mail if you are a CURRENT member of the Midwest Fjord Horse Club. It will also be placed on the MWFHC Web site link from NFHR or http://mwfhc.org/index.htm Deeanna will have the newly updated class descriptions up soon. This years show will run the same as last years show and we will continue to update, revise and rework the show adaptable to you, the members, and your individual needs. Our MWFHC rules/guidelines provide the show committee, exhibitors, judges and spectators with guidelines for the classes provided by the Midwest Horse Club's Horse Show held at Blue Earth, MN. The goal is to promote safety and standardization for conducing a show or event to promote the Fjord Horse. The Midwest Fjord Horse Club (MWFHC) encourages exhibitors planning to show at a NFHR SANCTIONED show to thoroughly read the NFHR Horse Show Rules Handbook, as the MWFHC MAY NOT have adopted the NFHR rules in their ENTIRETY. It does appear that we will once again be sponsoring a good size show, interest from new members contacting me have already doubled from last year. And we are all looking forward to another great show. To become a member of the MWFHC please contact Therine Gudknecht at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Mary Ofjord at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Chuck Kelly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or myself. If anyone has ANY questions regarding the 2007 MWFHC Blue Earth show please feel free to contact me a [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (815) 591-3658 Thank you Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
horse expos THANK YOU
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catherine, At the Midwest Horse Fair they set the theme for everyone and ask (but don't mandate) that we all work around the selected theme. Nancy Hotovy is our group leader for this event and she might speak up on the particulars. I know we are rated each year, and so far I do know we've gotten very good ratings and are welcomed highly by the sponsors. I believe Wayne Williams (the announcer of the 25th Anniversary show in Winona) is actually the head hauncho of the Midwest Horse Fair. During our presentation he added to our script that he attended the 25th celebration and brought recognition of that event back to notice. Dawn really does do a GREAT job with decorations and we all kind of give a bit of ourselves with ideas for the event. We pay for everything ourselves, dividing up expenses and so forth. I would also like to thank Nancy Rich, Dawn Tyler and Jessica, Patti Jo, Eby and Keelie, Mike and Susie Sadlon, Joani and Raymond, and my husband Gary. AND very importantly - Kathy Johnson - THANK YOU for being there for all of your help. Kathy owns WW Reidar and for a young stallion with lots of energy we had a great time. I am learning to sit the lavade and capriole very nicely, thank you. ; ) Every horse brings something different to the table when you ride and train them. And every owner does the same. I am very fortunate to have Reidar and Kathy in my world this year. Back at it...and moving forward. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #86
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] . How does a person new to Fjords get educated about what names to look for in a pedigree? Or what names indicate a calm temperament, or dressage-worthy movement, or more drafty type, or whatever you might be shopping for? I've been told that my horse has a nice pedigree, but I'm stumped as to which names on that piece of paper would indicate that, and why. How does one get educated? Kate, It's been my experience after working directly with several bloodlines that eventually you find common demeanor with similar lines - there's always the odd one that doesn't follow through - but typically you will find something that they all share. One way to get an idea - is to get the two Evaluation Record Books through Mike May - there are pictures of each horse and you can see type and overall scores on conformation - Medallion horses will also have their performance scores recorded, this is a good place to begin. Another idea is just go to a Fjord event - and watch - look at what appeals to you - ask owners what bloodlines those horses go back to. And lastly find a reputable breeder with a history of producing usable Fjords for a variety of owners. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
The good ones -
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie wrote: pat, what fun to open your new site and there's that photo of you and hostar from the 25th. thanks for choosing my stuff to put on your site. i am flattered :) Pat H writes: THANK YOU Laurie.for being there at the 25th and capturing some of the most precious moments I experienced at the event. The one picture that is on the page About Pat was taken when I was waiting to do the riding evaluation test - normally a time of great anxiety. My husband was suppose to bring out the mounting block at G ...and as he is not dressage literate ; )... Wayne Hipsley who knows Gary is a dairy farmer was telling Gary to just take the milking stool out for me...that is where these showscan be FUN...little behind the scenes stories that over ride ribbons won or lost. If you notice Hostar's expression - he also was enjoying the moment. Laurie also caught a nice riding picture with Hostar in the big English pleasure class - BEFORE my legs went numb and I needed oxygen - (I'm not as young as I used to be). The picture driving Hostar was taken during the stallion review/presentation - and we both were having a blast. *** Melinda wrote: And as for Hostar, he is thriving in his mountain climate. I wish I knew his secret to aging. ** Pat H writes: Having had Hostar in my care for such a long time - I will admit I still miss him, I am glad he is doing well in Idaho. Hostar is not only unique in his mind and his uncanny ability to win your heart, he amazed everyone - especially Bob V. Bon when he saw him at the 25th - he could not believe how great he looked at his age. Hostar is a testament to the breed and their longevity. A VERY special horse indeed. * AND speaking of VERY special horses - Patti Jo Walter spoke about her selling Fair Acre's Ole - Ole is a very VERY special minded horse that also won my heart when Patti Jo asked me to present him in a LaCrosse evaluation in draft and riding - (when her daughter was expecting their first grandchild.) I'll never forget how calm and cool he was there - how he did his job without question and with great willingness to please. I wish I could afford to buy him for myself - he not only was extremely well mannered at events, he was a joy to have on my farm. I personally felt so confident in Ole and his pedigree I have a custom made offspring by him. I asked a client who sent me several horses to breed a particular mare of his to Ole and if he did I would buy the offspring sight unseen. That resulting foal, a colt was born May 13th last year - and I brought him home last fall - I named him Bravado - because that name, to me means: showing braveness - in spite of fear.. something I've lived my life by. Many years ago Roger and Diane Whitney gelded Anvil's Steinfinn (Ole's sire) because no one seemed to be interested in purchasing this great sire. And that was a major loss to the breed. The Steinfinn line is what the Fjord horse is truly about - the great mind set - the willingness to try and give their all - please do not let this pedigree stamp - die out - THAT is by far what this breed is about. With great respect for the GOOD ones - Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New Website
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I've had my website revamped. DeeAnna Weede did it for me and she did a great job. It is now up and running. THANK YOU DeeAnna! It is up to date and includes information on WW Reidar owned by Kathy Johnson - Reidar is a really special son of Gjest - but out of a Sabastian daughter - a bit of a twist on most of the Gjest offspring we have standing in North America. Michael Scott took Reidar for his early training in driving and took championships at CDE's and carriage driving events - Kathy sent him to me for riding and I will be presenting him at the Midwest Horse Fair, Blue Earth and the 07 LaCrosse Evaluation. I will be standing him for the 07 breeding season here at my farm. Reidar will give the Gjest movement and refinement to your breeding program. Reidar is the first Gjest I've ever worked with and I am learning allot from this pedigree. He is very athletic, very handy, body built for riding, and is very fun to ride. His work ethic is very strong, he is smart and very responsive - currently I have three breeding age stallions on my farm and mares in season and our training sessions go on like clockwork. Reidar's early and very respectable conformation scores as a youngster are on the site, but I expect those to change dramatically - after the August evaluation as those reflect his youth and as he is maturing he is showing beautiful presence, balance and unique beauty. Kathy Johnson's operation in Montrose, MN - Woodpecker Farm is linked off of my new site as well. There is also information on the stallion Woods Sven - a five year old stallion my husband and I purchased last July. I saw Woods when he was at a sale as a two year old and there was something about him - I couldn't bid high enough to buy him then, but later this past year he came up again and we got him. With only 3 months of training we took him to the 25th Anniversary event in October - where he received his Silver Medallion of Quality. His scores are not the highest in the nation, but his mind is pure Fjord standard. Willing, kind and honest. Eventually we will continue evaluation prep and I expect good things to come from this boy. To get to the site other than thru the NFHR link you can go to www.pathollandtraining.info The old name was a .com - If any of you are thinking of changing your websites DeeAnna really was a pleasure to work with and very professional - thank you again DeeAnna and to Patti Jo for telling me about DeeAnna and a thank you to Mike May who made the change over on the NFHR site so quickly. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
interesting bloodlines
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian J wrote: He won overall young stock that year/ his sire is Saethersblakken out of Edna. Saethersblakken is Radar and Lindi and then Tunfeld/Monica and DragmannLinda Edna is Ernarson Pat Holland writes: Saethersblakken is and has been in the United States for some time, owned by Janice Lee of Valley, NE And one of - if not THE best daughter of Ernarson is Janita's Ronja (which are pretty rare) is owned by Green Valley Farm. Ronja was the high scored mare at her conformation evaluation in 1998 and is a Gold Medallion mare. I have nothing against importing horses, as I was privy to getting 15 of them over here - however at some point I began to think we here in North America have accumulated some of if not already the best of the best. One good example is a colt I was especially fond of from Green Valley - Thorvald he is by Havstad whom is dead, if someone can correct that please do - Havstad only has 3 intact offspring - Mosby in Germany and Manus who I also believe is dead.(correct me again if I am wrong) Therefore .. if one were to hunt and peck - and investigate a few bloodlines - I betcha a guy could find the mix of some pretty amazing animals right here in the ol' USA, oh and Canada too.sorry. Actually I kinda think it's about time some of OUR mixes and matches should be looked at by the Europeans to utilize in their breeding programs. I'm pretty proud of what we've done with our Fjords here and so should the rest of you. Just my thoughts. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
when to stop when hauling
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] How often is stopping often in you opinion? Do you get them out and walk them around or just take a break from movement? On this particular trip with this particular horse we did stop maybe twice a day - and got him out. But this trip carried a bit more concern than I usually had to deal with. We had a 19 year old, that was being doctored from a respiratory issue acquired at the Anniversary Event. He had been stalled for 4 days at the event, and he was used to turnout. I left the event early Sunday because I had the opportunity to turn him out at Kathy Monroe's and Nancy Barmore's farm near the Winona facility - then he was loaded early the next morning for the long haul to Idaho. With a normal situation and with a younger horse I might not have gotten them out and about - just stopped the movement. We did stop each night and allow the horse to get his sea legs back. We utilized turnout paddocks instead of box stalls - The accommodations varied greatly when you stop at these horse motels. In our case with a breeding stallion we lucked out and all went well. If your hauling long distance and want to use one of these kind of accommodations - ask, ask ask..friends ahead of time. Some of them are very nice,...others questionable. When we stopped at various times during the day (maybe twice a day ? - Catherine you can remind my memory here) and I led him around on a lunge tape - once at a rest area, another in a gas station parking lot, I think once in a Wal-Mart parking lot - places like that. However I do not recommend just stopping anywhere and taking your horse for a walk.. unless you know him VERY well. Hauling horses is a feel, each horse is different. You first have to know your individual horse and the trailer your hauling. Ventilation systems vary in each trailer. Ride in the back sometime - open and close the windows and vents and see for yourself where the air flows - sometimes the sweat your seeing on your horses is actually the condensation from poorly ventilated trailers. Hauling and stopping also depends on the road system your on - I-90 west of MN for the most part is level and an easy ride for a horse (also many parts of I-80 ) - from experience I've noticed many horses fall asleep and relax well on such a road - however if your stopping allot, or changing speeds, or adapting to curves and hills - it'll take its toll on the horse. A good driver is worth their weight in gold - someone who understands what they are hauling. Lastly - this horse already came with lots of hauling experience - I joked he had more road miles than a UPS truck - so take that into consideration when you load your horse for a trip. A young inexperienced horse with few road miles will need different attention. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
hauling horses
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever Catherine Lassesen has to haul with -maybe she'll come onto the list and tell you what she has - but when we took Hostar back to Idaho - the trip went exceptionally well because of her unit. Or maybe its because Catherine is such an intuitive driver with livestock in tow - Hostar arrived after three days on the road in fantastic shape, 100% sound and content, even after becoming sick at the Winona Event. We stopped often and let him stretch and relax - I know her trailer was an older (better) Feathrlite - made much better than the new ones. I don't remember what kind of truck she had but she drove it like a seasoned long haul trucker driver - I never did publically thank Catherine for her work on that trip - it was long and tedious and it would have been hard to find a better companion for the trip. I'll always remember her great care and concern for the care of an animal I thought the world of. Thanks Catherine, your a gem and I'll always remember that trip with fond memories. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
purge worming
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone ever heard of worming for 5 consecutive days Yes, many times - and have had good results. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
red socks
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't like white maybe I can bring along my hand knit red wool ones . Redonly if you put it on the right and keep the one white on the left ; ) get it? Maybe we should have a class at Blue Earth just for men to dress however they want to..can you imagine what they would show up in! I have a picture of Rich Hotovy shirtless and I have to tell ya...he don't look bad. Is it Paris Hilton that says..hot. sorry Nancy... it's good to be joking again. Pat Holland with the sun shining in the Midwest The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
warning -
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the good weather I'm riding/cleaning/ trying to find horses under the mud - just came back from trying to wash horse blankets at the undromat - Where I broke a washer, flooded the floor and was asked to leavein not to kind words .man those people get pissed when you leave the place smelling like 40 dead horses and looking like a California mud slide. I even made a 3 year old kid cry. I thought he was going to throw up when I had to drag a wet, half washed blanket out of the washer. His Mother looked at me like I had just let a pedophile go free. . Jeeze... So if any of you need to take your mud covered horse blankets to a laundromat go at midnight and have a 'get - a - way' car running and waiting... Pat Holland in muddy Illinois The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hats by Sherri Lower spring is here!!!!! - oh...and Phil Odden........
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we all are busy (and happy) with this fresh breath of spring and out and about working our horses. I just had to write after the UPS man came with my new driving hat made by Sherri Lower of Hats Off Boutique in Williston, FL. NO..I do not have the kind of money to buy one for myself, I received a gift certificate from Marta the great little diving pony via Nancy Barmore and Kathy Monroe for it. (THANK YOU again Kathy Nancy). Last year while showing for them my hat looked like a drowned rat after an all day rain at the Villa Louis show - we joked that I looked like the Ruby character played by Renee Zellwegar in the movie Cold Mountain. ; ) Sherri makes them custom to your turnout - down to your own personality. It turned out PERFECT. Fits like a glove, very very comfortable and well,perfect. I highly suggest any of you looking to tidy up your turnout, to go to Sherri at www.hatsoffboutique.com Phil, Sherri doesn't sell socks, (a little private joke here) but she does put together some nice turnout things for men too! OK...let you in on the private joke, last year at Villa, Phil who DOES have a great turnout - Norwegian and classy - had everything just right - except for the brightest, whitest socks - which could have been used as a runway for landing planes , which we had to kid him about. The other joke that went around the winter meeting, thanks to Rich Hotovy is that Tyler Schlickman numbers his socks - why...who knows...must be a man thing? So maybe Tyler Phil ought to get together and create a company for men's socks.numbered white - Just came back from riding a great little Steinfinn daughter - just jumped on her after most of winter off - and she was as cool as a cucumber - love those Steinfinn's! Great to have sunshine on our backs. Pat Holland - in the Midwest spring. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Ford for sale - a bow to Patti Jo
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti Jo wrote: This year is going to be VERY exciting here at FCF. I am getting a LOT of QUALITY Fjords in on consignment. * Pat Holland writes: Can't compete with the sales -lady of the Midwest, Patti Jo - you go girl! But I am getting a nice mare in to sell for an owner. She is a nine year old, brown dun 14-3 hands - by Engar (Gjestarson) out of an Ask daughter. old foundation bloodlines worth preservation. She rides and drives - HOWEVER - apparently she was in a driving accident, a spook driving down a road meeting cows - but was sent back to Susan Keating (Gene Bauer's in house trainer) - and she got her driving again. I do not know if she is a dependable driving horse for a beginner but she has been shown in dressage , training level. She has had one foal - which the owner is keeping - she comes from an excellent home, very well cared for. I've only seen pictures so far - she is very pretty - middle of the road in type. At 14-3 .tall. Something you might consider if you were interested in this mare - she might make a perfect mate to WW Reidar and while he is with me, get her bred to him.Get it all done in one shot - so to speak. Reidar is of the sport type, big mover, light and airy. Looks to me like a nice buy - I sold a gelding to a client in Maryland awhile back by Engar and he was the one that went on to do so much confidence building for her and a youth who rode him as well - the gelding was a total sweetheart when I had him - as I expect this mare to be too - they trail rode him - showed him - all the bells and whistles.. For those of you who are in the market for a Fjord this year contact me personally and I will put you in contact with the owner - I don't do allot of selling, but once in awhile a nice one comes thru the barn - I do have some pictures of her. This mare is in northern Illinois. Thanks Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
new member - husbands - and finding the breed
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lianne wrote: Hello from Wisconsin: My name is Liann Tetzlaff. . My first introduction to the Norwegian Fjord was in 2001 at the Midwest Horse Fair in in Madison WI. but even better I now had my husband on the fjord band wagon. *** Pat writes: Welcome to the wonderful world of Fjords and the people they own. Several things to touch on here, that you made mention of Lianne - I was glad to hear that your first introduction to the breed was thru the Midwest Horse Fair - it's a great event and those of us who promote the breed there each year do so with honest intentions - mainly what you came away with. Nancy Hotovy took over the organization of us all participating from Tom Ann Hans and it's not an easy thing to do - we don't have the opportunity to practice before meeting there - only one shot together before we do the demo's to a full coliseum. - Patti Jo Walter, Joanie Griffin, Dawn Tyler Schlickman, Mike Susie Sadlon, myself and this year my husband will all be there again and of course Rich and Nancy Hotovy. We've all brought green horses at one time or another - or stallions in post breeding season frenzy - and somehow we put together a good enough show to be invited back each year. Our efforts are rewarded when we hear of someone like yourself leaving with the desire to own one (or two) of this amazing breed. The other part you mentioned about your husband showing interest in the breed - is a common factor I see isolated within THIS breed alone. For reasons I'm not sure of - once we women fall for the breed our husbands follow suit, unusual in most breed/discipline associations. I mean how often do you see Mom, Dad and brother or sister ALL riding in a dressage show? Or a hunter/jumper show. The Fjord due to it's versatility and personable nature finds himself in the hearts of even the most un-horsy husband. So good luck to you and think about attending the Midwest Fjord Horse Club sponsored Blue Earth Show in July - it is the largest gathering of Fjords in North America - a great show held in a friendly atmosphere, welcoming everyone. Contact me personally for the show schedule and class descriptions or go to www.mwfhc.org for more information. Pat Holland, MWFHC Showchairman Sitting now in mid 20 degree weather - which feels like summer compared to last weeks temps! Ya Hoo! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
evaluation temperment credit to Wayne Hipsley
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruthie write: I could go on about the lack of a temperament score also, but realize that no breed judging system is perfect and that it is at least better than nothing. *** Pat Writes: For sure the system we have in play right now is far far better than what most breed associations offer. I personally give a great deal of credit to that system to Wayne Hipsley - who when I first got into Fjords was gathering up all the loose ends and reignited a flame under the evaluation program. Wayne is an extra ordinary individual who's educational skills are exceptional. Without his work training the new evaluators, we would not be where we are today. I used to worry about not having a true score for temperament - but after awhile it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what that individual has in terms of demeanor individually or what he/she throws. As offspring goes out and works for their owners it gets pretty obvious after awhile if temperament and willingness to work and try is an inherent issue or not. With, I believe 4 or 5 evaluations in the works for this year, I highly recommend those on the fence about going to one, to first read and look over the old record books, - good time of the year to do so - weather bound and all - then attend one in your area. I finally got to meet and talk with Bob v. Bon at the 25th Anniversary - and I'll agree with Carol that he is a walking encyclopedia - regarding the Fjord breed in particular and horses in general. But I'll stick with Wayne Hipsley - as far as the top gun - and sincerely hope he remains with us, and that the newly elected Board of Directors utilize him - in our attempt to progress and keep this breed as great as it is. With respect for work done and the future. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
numbers - look for more
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren wrote: Unfortunately, Carl did not score above an 80 in conformation in the NFHR Evaluation. He is, however, a super horse with a super brain. I'd be happy to tell about my experiences with him if anyone was interested. Carl was on our farm for many, many years. He sired some lovely blue ribbon mares that we currently use in our breeding program. Pat Writes: This is a good example of a composite score that needs to be looked at the way the evaluation system was meant to be. In more detail. Carl IS a good horse, Lauren is right. First Lauren is a good, experienced trainer who has ridden and trained many Fjords and earned the right be heard and respected for her assessment.. Second, Carl although his composite score was a 78.25 is NOT BAD! He received an 8.0 Overall an 8.5 on his walk, 8.0 on his trot and all else in the 7 - 7.5's Type was 8.0 Very nice individual scores! Then look at his performance scores - 89 in intro draft, 83.5 in intro driving, 77.25 in intro English and they even took him in western - then on to the advanced tests where he got red levels in driving and riding and only 3 points off a red in advanced draft - difficult tests - This tells me he is a horse with a very willing nature and versatile as all get out. Don't dismiss a horse just because he doesn't hold a blue ribbon in conformation - look at the whole picture - now if he got a 5 or a 6 in a particular component in the conformation evaluation I might hesitate - but his scores were all within warrant for breeding. Just my thoughts, Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
the good show for good people
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate wrote: Dear Pat, Thank you, thank you for your reply! Every once in a while I read something on this list that I need to print out and keep. Your reply is one of them. Might not be earth shattering news to some, but exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you. My entire goal for myself and my young gentleman is to go to Blue Earth this year. Can't guess what we'll be ready to actually DO there, but we'll be there! *** Pat writes: Your more than welcome Kate, This particular situation which we are all privet to, with Kate is EXACTLY what I feel is MOST important to the breed in general and the registry in particular. We have some really great owners of these Fjord horses, people who are proud of their own horses. By virtue of the breed alone (with their kind and gentle nature) we acquire members who might have come from another breed association that got way over board on competitiveness and cut throat attitude. Allot of those people got burned out - or due to life demands were unable to continue with that particular venue. They come from all sorts of backgrounds - some want to get back into the show world - but want to do so in a more friendly atmosphere. I have many owners, in my barn right now -who want to compete - but they also want to laugh over a mistake, share a good placing with friends, feel welcome, and feel a part of the camaraderie in the show process. Some do not have the money to compete at the big time shows, yet allot of those same people DO have the skills and talents. The Blue Earth show is unique in that aspect, we encourage the new person and value their participation, they are simply the life blood that keeps our show going as successfully as it is. And still we offer a venue for the experienced horseman, some of our classes are very competitive - my goodness, over the years the best of the best have shown with us, and continue to come back. Kate, your going to have the time of your life at Blue Earth this July - you will find friends, helpers, mentors and most of all, you'll leave feeling good and wanting to come back again. Life is good - lets enjoy it! Pat Holland - MWFHC Show Chair The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fashion Police
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate wrote: I am gearing up to have my first show season with my coming 3 year old gelding. Pat writes: Hi Kate, Your questions are more timely then you realize, thank you for bringing up the subject. As the Show Chairperson of the Midwest Fjord Horse Club's Blue Earth Show, and our show committee and MWFHC Executive Committee - we have been working all winter on addressing the likes of your concerns. The Blue Earth show has traditionally been the exhibitor friendly show. Our current rule book and class descriptions are very basic and user friendly. Our first and foremost concern is safety, then we try to provide a show where everyone is welcome from all the disciplines and levels of which we find our members coming from. We are entering into our 22 year at Blue Earth - and it still remains the largest gathering of Fjord horses in North America. We have an unbelievable group of volunteers that work endlessly to make this show what it is. It truly is a GROUP effort of ownership - and we are proud of it. First of all to answer your cart question, your training cart is very welcome at our show - we understand how not everyone can afford or might not want to invest in the big boy toys until you get your feet wet in the competition environment. MANY exhibitors, myself included first brought the wire wheeled/training carts the first few times showing - then gradually found used affordable vehicles after we got hooked. Your concerns about attire are valid. The Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry has created the NFHR Show Book Rules - which can be found on the NFHR Website and downloaded. The rules and class descriptions found on those documents are an effort to bring continuity to all of the Fjord show through out the country. An honorable endeavor. The MWFHC utilizes those documents as GUIDELINES.. suggestions only - to assist those new to the regional shows. However we do not mandate - verbatim - those rules and class descriptions. Nor do we adhere to ADS, USEF, or USDF rules and regulations, because those are purely individual DISCIPLINE shows - where as our regional Fjords shows are BREED shows - where we have to combine one show, once a year for many many venues due to the versatility of the breed - youth, Jr-Jr youth, adult, green, maiden, draft, ( hitches and logs) driving, (pleasure and cones) riding (English and western), jumping, showmanship, horsemanship, trail, farm classes and the full range of conformation. We try to make ONE show, ONCE a year - where EVERYone is welcome - it's difficult - but apparently doable. We have several great classes for the walk/trot exhibitor/horse - and we've tweaked our schedule over the years to accommodate this venue. We have many classes not offered at other shows, these classes were grown from and created for our membership as our show has evolved. The one thing I have learned from the Blue Earth show is that - an exhibitor can learn by watching those who win consistently. We have a great group of talented, experienced and kind hearted exhibitors to see and learn from. Please make sure you are on the Midwest Fjord Horse Club mailing list or contact me personally and I will forward you are current show schedule and class descriptions. Pat Holland - still in frigid Midwest weather. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
insurance good Fjord reads
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll second the motion for Markel as an insurance agent for my horse business and Suggest Carol Naveta Rivoire's The Fjordhorse Handbook for reading material regarding the Fjord Horse - Also buy through Mike May the two editions of : The Record Book Evaluation Results 1994 - 2000 and the second edition 2001-2004 (lots and lots of great info in them - also the program from the 25th Anniversary Show ( Mike has those as well for sale - has some great articles on the history of the breed overseas and in North America. Pat Holland - in single digit Midwestbu The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
BIG Thank you - oboe
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot express the gratitude I feel for all of the private correspondence regarding finding a donated Oboe for my daughter, Robin. At this point, Sandy North is working on one in particular through a friend of hers - THANK YOU so much, Sandy Beth and Sandy's friend Jenny who has volunteered to donate her Oboe to the cause. This is a unique case - and I sincerely appreciate how many people responded favorably to this effort. We sometimes hear only the negative within our up and coming generation of kids, I can certainly attest to the fact that there are some great kids out there - Robin turned out to be 10 times a better person than myself - and with all the effort and ambition I put into my life, she far outweighs, by shear determination and positive attitude - anything and everything I've accomplished. Finding a concert quality Oboe is a very expensive venture - and as I said we bought seven other instruments for her over the years - the last five she learned on her own - I am so very proud of her. I mentioned the domino effect and now that Robin knows one is coming she is donating her old one (still in great shape) to our school district - which has none - for another child to someday use - our school is very small ( her graduating class is only 38). Resources within our district is very limited. I also mentioned I would provide a life time of cartoons (or serious drawings) for the person who found an Oboe for Robin - as I speak, I am drawing something for Sandy Beth. A life time of humor is yours. Thank you ALL..so very very much. With gratitude and a pay-it-forward thought process- Sincerely, Pat, Gary and Robin Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
