Re: Water up your nose
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kilar likes to do this too. He tries to lap up the water as it comes out the hose, or he sticks his nostril up to the waterflow then blows the water back at me. Like an elephant's trunk. Wee Willy likes to play with the hose, but he does not want me to help him play. He bites it and aims it around at the other horses and himself. But heaven forbid I should squirt HIM! Martie in MD - Fjords are so much fun! Cynthia Madden wrote: > This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Fjords are such a hoot! Yesterday as I was watering > the new horse, Tank came over to help me. We spent > about 10 minutes playing with hose nozzle and Fjord > nose.
Re: It's a WARCO!!
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gee Robyn, your mom sounds like my mom. She never gave up trying to make me 'girly' and get me away from those 'dirty smelly animals'. Actually, she finally gave up when she came downstairs one morning and found my pony at the kitchen sink eating carrot tops out of the new casserole dish she had given me for my birthday. Oops. Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sounds great Amy would your Mom talk to my Mom? All I get for presents are > frilly girl dresses that really do not handle barn work well. Oh and one time > a sewing machine well that works great as a door stop. Robyn in MD :)
Re: fjord for sale?
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Frida is still for sale. She is about 16, about 14 h of heavy draft style with lots of feather on her legs. She is sweet to work around but has not done any meaningful work for several years (except being a great mommy). We would like $4000 for her. I can look up the exact data on her breeding etc. and find some pics if interested. thanks, Martie - crossing my fingers for your Fjordy to be a fine big healthy baby!! And for mom to slip him out with NOOO problems. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message to Midwesterners; > > Hi - I have been asked if I know of an older fjord for sale - for a family > with horse experience - to be used as a fun family horse:) > > If you sent information for the horse expo in MN? Do not resend. Message is > for anyone else with a horse for sale. > > Linda in MN > Goat babies are here! > One month to go for fjord foal:)
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #86
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I LOVE trail driving with Kilar! It is still pretty scary because I don't steer as well as I should, but Kilar really likes it as a 'day off' from regular, boring pasture work. He thinks he is hot stuff when we go out. And he is not spooky when I trail drive - sometimes he gives something a good look, but not like when we ride and he wants to spook (in place luckilly). Maybe I should ride with the driving bridle :-) Just kidding. Congratulations on your fun drive! I wish I had someone to ride with me while I drive so I could see how Kilar would handle it. I don't anticipate any problems because he has seen outriders when we've been to shows. They just have not been up close. There will be riders along on our first pleasure drive (hopefully) next week. Martie in MD Twin Oaks Graphics http://bolinsj.tripod.com/twinoaksgraphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 4/13/2002 6:00:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Hi Friends, My sweet 4 going on 5 gelding and a friend of mine took to the > > trails driving today
Re: Wanted: Fjords for sale
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joe, I know it is really late, but can you give me directions to Mel's Stables in New Holland? I am coming from south of Lancaster in northern MD. We can get to the New Holland Auction site and there is a Farriers outlet nearby we stop at occassionaly but I can't recall Mel's. If this gets to you too late, don't worry. Sorry for late request martie in MD Joe Glick wrote: > This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I will be taking my Fjord stallion to the "Stallion Presentation Day" at > Mel's Stables, New Holland, PA on March 30, 2002. It's an annual event open
Re: new saddle!
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is exactly the saddle I got for Kilar! I love it. Kilar does have whithers, but not really big ones. They are sort of 'fat' (read fluffy). The saddle sticks to him like glue; totally without slipping when I get on and off. Even with a light pad. I got the saddle for my Arab and it also fits him. He has no withers to speak of though and for trail riding would need a breast plate or something for me to feel really safe. Only complaint about the saddle is that the only one in stock when I got it was PURPLE. Looks great on an Arab and Kilar doesn't mind purple. I try not to think about the color. Martie in MD Twin Oaks Graphics http://bolinsj.tripod.com/twinoaksgraphics/ Bonnie Liermann wrote: > This message is from: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi everyone: > First, sorry Debi to hear of your surgery. Hope all goes well. > > I wanted to write about my new saddle. For you western riders out > there, I have a Fjord that does have alittle wither, although it is very > wide and muscular. I needed a western saddle for him and I found one I > really like! > It is an Abetta Arabian, round skirt saddle.
Brochures
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can anyone tell me the best way to obtain some brochures? Kilar and I have been invited to a 'Draft Day' program with the new driving club I just joined. None of the members has seen a Fjord. They would like me to bring a few brochures about the breed to the demos. If I could get one brochure and permission to make copies, that would be great also. thanks, Martie in MD Twin Oaks Graphics http://bolinsj.tripod.com/twinoaksgraphics/
Mare for sale
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is with a great deal of sorrow that we have decided to sell our newest mare, MVF Frida. Unfortunately, we bought her for my husband to ride and his health is such that it will be some time before he will be allowed to ride again. She will be 16 yrs this year, is about 14 h, brown dun. She is trained to ride and drive, but has not been used for anything but a brood mare for some years and will probably need a bit of retraining to make bring her up to her true potential. She's a great mare to work around and really smart. I have been trying to excersize her a little by ground driving and she does great. She likes to think her way through her occassional confusions unlike Kilar who always decides if he doesn't know what you want, you probably don't either and he should take command. She is a sweetheart. She will be priced reasonably to a knowledgeable buyer who does not want to breed. Please contact me privately for more info or photos. thanks, Martie in MD Twin Oaks Graphics http://bolinsj.tripod.com/twinoaksgraphics
Re: mosquito problems
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Try some of the pond suppliers or plant supply companies. I think that's where we got our last ones. Can't recall the name of the outfit, but I think it was one of the plant/seed catalogs we get every year. I'll try to dig deeper if you like. They were not called mosquito dunks though. We never cleaned and opened our swimming pool for swimming last 2 years, so we put fish and frogs in the 'pond' for the summer to keep down misquitos along with the floating plugs. Martie in MD Deb Williams wrote: > This message is from: "Deb Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dear Group, > Does any one know of a source for the mosquito killing plugs that you > put in wet lands. 2 years ago I tried to get some thru the feed store they > were called Mosquito dunks..They ran out and never got any reordered. Feed > store no longer in business. These are supposedly safe for everything else, > just killing the mosquitoes. > Debi Williams > Williams Hill Fjords > Waterford, Pa > Home of Tolgar,Tanja, Rosie, Belle,Hilda and Beckett > (Still on mare watch here)
Re: In response to modern breeding and eating at Dunkin Doughnuts
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I gotta agree (grin) except I prefer the Krispy Kremes to the Dunkin's. And my Fjordies look like they eat donuts too. Martie in MD DT wrote: > This message is from: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Lois, you know I have seen what you mean that breeders tend to go towards > slimmer, sleeker styles. Is this true in all parts of the world or just in > America where the media teaches society or visa versa that "thinner, leaner > and meaner" is better? I say eat the Dunkin doughnuts and go for the > draftiest Fjord you can find :-) > > Deb
Re: catch me if you can
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I used this method on our Arab many years ago. Just went out and played around near him until he came to me. Then played with him (he loves it). Then gave treats. Then left. Most of the time, even from the very beginning he would come right to the barn with me - without the dreaded halter that meant he HAD to come to the barn. I I don't want him in the barn, well then, it's OK to go to the barn. He is a real hoot anyway. Now if he does not want to come to me, I ignore him and look anywhere but at him. He can't stand it! He absolutely HATES to be locked in the barn though. One day of locking him in (bad weather, illness, meds on his food) and its byebye momma, I AIN'T going back to that (*&$# barn! I think he is a little claustrophobic. And when he gets back OUT! Boy he can strut his stuff! Never had a problem with the Fjords. Keeping them away from me if I have a halter is the hard part. How to get just one horse??? Martie in MD
Re: nippers and trimming
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am pretty sure that someone, somewhere sells 'pony nippers' for smaller feet. We have a smaller set of nippers here that I can (barely) use with my small hands. I can't even get close to using the set my hubby uses for the real trims but the smaller ones come in handy for those 'emergency' trims to nip off a broken piece while waiting for a real trim. Try some of the farrier catalogs? Martie in MD
Re: paddock feeder
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen, I use a broom first on my rough floors, flagstone kitchen and brick. Then we go over with either a damp wet mop or vacuum and then mop if the floor is really gritty. I hardly use the vacuum in the rooms with the rough floors except for dusting. Don't try the swiffer sweeper on the rough stuff :-O. It leaves behind swiffer pieces everywhere and looks worse than the dog hair. I DO use a lot of floormop sponges though. Can't offer any suggestions about the feeder. We screwed the hayfeeders to the fence so they couldn't run off with them between feedings, but we don't have anything nearly as heavy as you describe. The grain feeders are also attached to the fence; they were the kind you can just set over the fence boards and remove easilly for cleaning. I found them ALL over the pasture and even outside the pasture where they were tossed.! Martie in MD Ellen Davidson wrote: > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have two questions.First,I have a large Rohn galvanized paddock feeder > (the kind with a large long hay rack on top and a large plastic feeding pan > on each side).It probably weighs 300lb.,but my two fjords think that it is > fun to tip it over.The ground is level and flat,but there must be one tiny > bit of hay that they can't reach so they knock it over.It takes two of us to > right it again.Any ideas on how to better secure this down yet still be safe > for the beasties? I really like it.Second question (not about > horses,sorry).Anyone suggest a vacuum cleaner when you let your dogs rule > the house? I've been through about one a year.Only the 10 gallon shop vac > has held up to dog hair,but it is a pain to push around the house.I have a > weird house,mostly brick floors,little carpet and some tile.I'm thinking > "leaf blower" but that probably would be rough in the kitchen and office. > Thanks,Ellen and her poor,starving fjords Lasse and Leka
"Come visit my web site!"
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John & Martie Bolinski wrote: > OK, I finally have something, still rough around the edges, but ready for it's > debut. > Please feel free to try the website and give me your feedback. There are a > lot of > links to artwork on the contact/links page, but there is also a link to a few > pics > of the horses and dogs and a page with photos of the farm and the trail we > drive > Kilar on.I hope to get more photos loaded as soon as I get the scanner > going again. I think it died of heartfailure when I started uploading the > artsy > pics. > > thanks, > Martie in MD > Twin Oaks Graphics > > > This email is being sent to you from the website notification service at > > Tripod. > > > > You can see my new site here: http://bolinsj.tripod.com/twinoaksgraphics/ > > > > Let me know what you think! > > > > Build your own web site at www.tripod.com.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #10
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have to agree with this train of thought. Most of my horses/ponies prior to the Fjords were what most people would term 'geriatric'. Most would have gone to the meat market if we had not picked them up. And they all gave us many years of useful life. Right now, our youngest is 13 - the oldest is 30. While the 30 year old is retired, he gave us quite a good few years before old age and infirmity required us to retire him. Most of these animals were picked up at between 16-21 years old from people who wanted 'something that still had some life in it'. Lots of miles left in some of those oldtimers. And lots they can teach us. martie in md [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In response to Deb's comments on geriatric horses, I cannot agree more!
Re: Wormer tastes
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe it is a personal preference. All my horses tolerate the Strongid, even suck it out of the wormer tubes, but Frida, our newest, like the Ivermectin so much she wants to fight the others for their share. They all like the Panacur when they get it, but we just put it on their feed and let them take it that way. Martie in MD Anjer Farms wrote: > This message is from: Anjer Farms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I would definitely agree I am certain that Ivermectrin tastes the worst from > the horses reactions. Mine seem to like Strongid Paste and never even make > faces when they get it! > > Andrea
Re: dressage ring
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen, Cheap and easy - I used 3-5 gal plastic buckets (without handles) to be my markers and I just let the grass grow between to be my 'fence'. Drill holes in the bottom of the buckets for drainage and put some stones or rocks in the bottom to keep the pastured horses from running off with the buckets. I thought about using boards on the ground for more definition, but they are always in the way of the mower. No chance of using chain with the silly Arab using the pasture I do dressage in. He'd be in it in a heartbeat. :-) Martie in MD Martie Ellen Davidson wrote: > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone got easy,cheap,or clever ideas on putting up a dressage ring in the
Re: shelter flooring
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just put rubber mats down over our sand/clay run-ins. It has helped tremendously with cleanup! Martie in MD Erlypine wrote: > This message is from: "Erlypine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What is best to use over sand in a run in shelter? > Julie > -Ori
Re: One Horse Reel Mower
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Katy and Jon, neat we have someone nearby with a Fjord! We live about an hour from Kinzers - to the south in MD. I am the gal who talked the ears of the Fjord guys. Its just so neat to see them work! Martie in MD
Re: Intro
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At one of the Horse Progress Days in PA, John and I looked at a one horse reel-type mower. The manufacturer said that the smaller model could easily be pulled by a single Halflinger, so I am sure a Fjord could manage it. I think it had 3 rotary mowers staggered underneath a deck. There were shafts and the whole thing looked sort of like a forecart. I can't remember the manufacturer though. Martie in MD
Re: Lexington Evaluations
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Mary, John and I are going to the evaluations,but we are not taking any horses. We hope to be able to help Curt with whatever 'odds and ends' need work. I really look forward to seeing the Fjord group again since we were unable to travel at all this year. Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All > > We are less than two weeks from the evaluations in Lexington, Virginia and I > have not seen any dialogue on the list about anyone heading this way.
off topic - advertisement
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Time for Christmas shopping? Twin Oaks Graphics has many gift ideas this year - from stained glass ornaments and sun-catchers, boxes, nite-lites (new), votive candle holders (new), and of course windows small and large - also stepping stones, coasters and other 'cast' items. Custom or off the shelf pieces. Fjords and other breeds are available. Prices are very reasonable. Please contact me privately. I am sorry that we are still having difficulty with the web site, but if you email me, I'll provide some photos and price list. thanks, Martie in MD Twin Oaks Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Autumn years
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> G*d, that is so beautiful, I am in tears. I just went with a friend to visit my oldest timer, BJ who is in his dotage and fading fast. Oh poop, gotta go find some tissues. Martie in MD "Frederick J. Pack" wrote: > This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Autumn Years > by Christy Caballero
Re: Advice, please!!
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Linda, WE are useing 2 types of pole structure here, with the horses having free access to them. The 'main barn' has concrete and rubber mats. Just shovel/sweep/spray. No bedding in the summer; straw in winter if needed. We do not use sawdust because my hubby thinks the turpentine in it dry out the feet too much. Our horses mostly have dry feet anyway. The other shelter is a shed that is enclosed on 3 sides with a dirt floor and rubber mats. We just put in the rubber mats about a year ago after trying to decide how much 'muck' was muck and how much was just wet dirt. The shed is now about 8-10 inches deeper than when we built it. I LOVE the rubber mats But may not be practical if you are talking a big area. Luck! Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Everyone; > > I'm moving horses from stalls to living outside with a polebarn for shelter. > Those of you who keep your horses outside with shelter -- what footing works > best in the polebarn?? Do you bed the polebarn with > shavings/straw/anything??
Re: wild neighbors
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When I first bought Kilar, I used to trail ride him because I did not have a cart and harness yet. I worried that he would spook at the wildlife the he was not used to. HA! We spooked up a small herd of napping deer who jumped up practically under our feet in the deep grass. NO Problems. He stopped and watch, but no spook. On the way home from the same ride, we passed an old white-walled tire at the edge of the woods. There was the spook! He ran circles around the other horses before I could slow him enough to really look at the tire. Obviously wild animals belong on the trails and old tires do not. So far my Fjords have been the sanes, unspookingest (is that a word?) horses I have ever owned. Thank goodness. Martie in MD
Re: Hello
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OOPS! Is my face red. I did NOT mean that last mesage to go to the entire list. Sincere apologies, Martie in MD
Re: Hello
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, this message is for Cindy. I received your phone call this afternoon and will send out the brochure first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the referral! You did not mention if she was into Fjords or other breeds, but I guess she will let me know herself. thanks again! Martie Bolinski Twin Oaks Graphics - Stained Glass
Re: bugged
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We bought those little battery operated fly sprayers for the sheds and run-in stalls in our barn. The horses spend most of the worse fly times near these, so I guess they work. For some reason, the two fjords always crowd into the same stall in the shed; Wee Willy takes the other. The sprayers only coxt about $40 and come with insecticide refill cans. They take ordinary batteries. We originally installed them as a stop gap until we could put in an electric fly system, but they have worked well enough that we decided to spare ourselves the extra expense. None of the fly sprays/sheets/wipes we have tried this year seem to be working so I am glad that the fly sprayers help. My fjords seem to be much more sensitive to the biting flies (and they attract them more) than my other horses. Mariposa Farm wrote: > This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One of our Fjords is extra sensitive to bugs and we put her in the barn during > the day and let her out at night.
Re: Thursday from Hell
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Catherine, We were so sorry to hear about your horrible Thursday. I hope the mare is OK and any future foalings go smoother. Martie in MD
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This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now that the worst of our spring is over (we hope!) with Wee Willy back to normal and Frida getting better after the stillbirth, I just want to mention that I will have some small stained glass Fjord items available again this year. If anyone is interested in these for Fjord promo items at shows, fairs or other events, please contact me privately. There are a few on the shelf, but I will need to make more if there is a call for consignment items. There are also a couple of 'new' small items available as Fjord or other breeds. thanks, martie in MD
Re: water hazards
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My first pony used to LOVE water. He would go into anything wet and would splash and play. A lot of people warned me that he was just getting ready to roll, but the only time he ever went down on me, he did it without a splash or so much as an earflick. Just sank like a hippo. My advice is to just keep him moving if you can. Beast used to love the water so much that sometimes I needed to use the crop and tap him smartly on the rump once. All my other horses - if they pay they go down. Martie in MD Denise Delgado wrote: > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > hey listers, my just turned 4 yr old fjord, used to hate crossing > streams on the trail. he would always jump, no matter how large or > small (read; a hose trickle). so i started working him using the lyons > and marty marten techiniques. now i have the opposite problem!!! > yesterday i could barely get him out of the middle of the stream.
Birth of 'Torbeau' - long and rambling
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, Frida finally gave birth to little 'Torbeau' this morning after many hours of labor and much assistance from our vet. We were treating her yesterday for a colic. Did not know she had any problems until she refused to come out of her shed for the dinner bell. She is always a super chowhound. So of course, we called the vet immediately. He gave her banamine, diperone (sp?) and a tubing and she passed some manure and looked better. We were told to check up on her every hour or so through the night in case there was more trouble. so. At about 2:50, John got me up (it was his turn to check her) and told me she had 'something coming out of her anus'. Excited, I ran to see and by the time I got to the barn, she was down and straining. A little head was briefly visible, then withdrawn. Uh oh. Waited for next contraction and sure enough. no feet. Called the vet back at about 3:00. Poor Joe. Had just gotten to bed around 2:00. He said keep her up and walking if at all possible so the baby could reposition itself. Frida was cooperative. She stood and sweated and occassionaly strained and 'cried'. It took Joe 30 minutes to get there. It felt like days! Baby was positioned so his head was correctly turned, but the entiire rest of the body was upside down and his little feet were twisted upward and back. After much effort on the part of both Joe and Frida, the legs were positioned so the baby could be born - still upside down. Frida was a champ - pushing when she was asked (it sure seemed like it anyway) and keeping quiet and standing for the vet to take care of things behind her. Bottom line, little Torbeau hit the ground dead. Joe says he was probably dead at least 2 days before the birthing and his not being viable probably contributed to both the colic and the malpositioning. I think the vet suspected the baby was dead when he was checking on Frida's vitals for the colic and just did not want to say anything. He did not tell us the foal was dead until after it had been completely born. I was at the head for most of the time, so could only see a little of what was happening, but he sure did not look alive. He was a beautiful little brown dun with a head of curly cream colored hair and almost no hair on the rest of him. He woudl have been a beautiful baby boy. Frida nickered to him a couple times when the vet tried to take him from the stall, so we let her stand with him for a little while. She figured things out pretty quickly and let us take him after about 20 minutes when she couldn't get any responses. This was around 5:00. As of this writing, Frida still has retained the placenta. We are checking on her periodically; she looked weak and tired this morning at 7:00 but did get up to eat her 'John Lyons Senior' horsefood - eating completely around her usual ration of timothy cubes. She is drinking well. Please keep your fingers crossed that Frida makes it through this ordeal. I can't stand to think I will lose her as well as the little guy. We will not rebreed her. She did not want to get pregnant this time and we kept after her until she was. We will not do it again. Burial detail will be scheduled as soon as this (*&%^$(*7 rain stops. Oh well, sorry to ramble so. I am now looking at a blurry screen through my tears. No more babies for me; I can't take the stress. I guess Wee will remain our 'only' baby. He is crying for Frida right now. Got to go check on the placenta again. Martie in MD
Re: sick horse
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We worm every 6 weeks with the wormers that the vet recommended. He said that even on regular schedules, you sometimes get a buildup of 'resistant' larva. A few years back (7?10?) we had a similar problem with our Arab. Nothing since. You just never know. Next time my babies start losing weight, I will check more carefully before things get out of hand. I hope. Martie in MD Mary Thurman wrote: > This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Jan, > > > The description sounds like our Wee Willy just > > went through, except for the > > scours. None of the bloodwork was conclusive but > > the vet put him on a regimen > > of antibiotics and had us give him a heavy dose of > > larvacidal wormer. > > I don't know if either one worked or if he just > > came through it himself, > > Ditto here. Last spring my niece's Mini went through > almost exactly the same symptoms - with some scours at > first - and the vet treated the horse with antibiotics > and a couple of moderate doses of wormer. The vet's > explanation was that a large buildup of certain kinds > of parasites can cause a systemic reaction in some > horses - similar to the reaction to any infection. He > didn't give a 'why or wherefore' to it, just said it > happens, treated the horse, and the horse recovered > quite well. It did take a couple of weeks for the > horse to be back to 'normal'(eating everything in > sight) again. My niece has been very careful to keep > to a good worming schedule since then, and has not had > the problem again. It only happened to one horse on > her place - maybe this one was extra sensitive to > parasites, who knows. > > Mary > > > > = > Mary Thurman > Raintree Farms > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: sick horse
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jan, You and your horse are in our thoughts and prayers. The description sounds like our Wee Willy just went through, except for the scours. None of the bloodwork was conclusive but the vet put him on a regimen of antibiotics and had us give him a heavy dose of larvacidal wormer. I don't know if either one worked or if he just came through it himself, but after 2 weeks he is back to his old ornery self, sharing everyone's food then hiding in the creep shed to eat his own when the Fjordies are done. Luck and good wishes! Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, >Your prayers and good thoughts, please, for my dear Kai, who has been > really sick since Monday night, with a mystery illness. Symptoms include > moderate colic, very high fever, depression, scours, dehydration, and not > eating or drinking at all. He's getting 24 liters of IV fluid daily to keep > him from crashing, as well as banamine and ulcer meds. Many tests run to > date, nothing conclusive, he's gone to the clinic for the evening for > further tests. >Jan, in central Virginia
Re: trail riding
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Try tucking one of those skin-so-soft wipes into the bridle behind the horses ears. Works pretty good for misquitoes. Martie in MD truman matz wrote: > T* > Have you ever tried Skin So Soft by Avon?
Re: Just Another Fjord Story
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Having just finished with the aftermath of spring shots, I share the opinion that Fjords are SO much different than the other breeds! Our two Fjords took their shots, including, for Kilar, the new 'nasal adminstered' dose of something or other with no complaints. The quarter horse fell asleep, the Arab took the regular shots well, but would NOT allow the vet to put anything up his nose. This from a horse who is always sticking things up his own nose! We had to go with the ear twist and neck pinch to get him done. I cannot imagine doing this myself! Then 1/2 hour after the shots, the little pony, Wee Willy was down. Flat. And would not get up without my help. Had to have the vet back immediately; fortunately, he had only gotten as far as the next farm and was back inside of 15 minutes. Wee had a severe colic. Followup over the next couple days was intense - reaction to the shots was ruled out although the 'trauma' was blamed for helping to show the colic symptoms. Evidently Wee has had a problem we did not see for some time. With all the attention from us and the vet, he got a little hard to catch after a couple days, but low and behold - the Fjords help me round him up everyday for his meds. They corner him in the corral and hold him for me to catch. So neat! Not that Wee appreciates it, but he has improved markedly in the past week and appears to be out of the woods. Martie in MD
Re: GO SHOW
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HA, That is Kilar's favorite thing! To stop at X and 'pee for the judge'. We have been working on him at home to NOT pee when he is in the dressage arena. He he. Best of luck!! And remember, have FUN. Martie in MD > Tommes will more likely decide it's "potty break time" when directly in front > of the judge. Maybe that would be a good time for my hat to blow away, to > distract him/her : )
Re: Orphan foal
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ardeth, Please, I am still looking for baby names for our pending foal. Could you Email me privately on [EMAIL PROTECTED] with some ideas? His/her daddy is Torblakken/ mommy is MVF Frida. If it is a colt, I wanted to call it TorBeau (beau after my hubby, it's his nickname) but hubby doesn't like the name. No ideas for filly names. thanks, Martie in MD
Re: heads up
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have all ganders except one VERY old goose. She lays eggs then eats them. There are no eggs. But the ganders get this way every spring as though there were hens and eggs to protect. This is the first year though that they have really pestered the horses. We got 4 new ones last year, and I think it is the newbies doing the nasties. The oldest ganders just hiss and pretend they are bad; they back off quickly when you confront them. More experience maybe. Martie in MD Jean Gayle wrote: > This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Are you sure the gander is not guarding eggs? The only time one of my > honkers attacked my pregnant mare was as she was innocently standing next to > a puddle where the goose had sloppily laid an egg. > > Jean Walters Gayle > Aberdeen, WA > [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" > Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] > http://www.techline.com/~jgayle > Three Horses Press > PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: heads up
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am having a similar problem with one of my geese chasing the horses. He terrifies the poor arab (he's afraid of everything) and even chases the old quarter horse who just shuffles away with his head in the air. The goose actually BIT Kilar on Saturday while I was grazing him after a whorkout. Kilar just looked startled and turned his head away for more grass. The goose threatened a couple more times, even flapping his wings and hissing, but Kilar just kept his head turned away and kept on eating. Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Along the same line, there's a huge golden retriever here who chases horses, > only in the turnout pen never outside, and the arabs here and he make a game > of it. He has now tried sneaking up and attacking my fjords, who refuse to > stop eating for him, too. He finds them very unsatisfactory.
Re: shoes
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We need to shoe when we drive somewhere with a lot of gravel. Kilar seems to have tender feet. I keep him barefoot unless we know we are going somewhere that the ground is especially bad. At our first CDE, he went lame in the dressage ring (stone bruise) because it was SO rocky. You could tell as soon as he stepped on the rock; he nearly fell. Then of course he was completely off for the rest of the dressage course. I had video taken of the event, and you can see exactly what happened. They have since resurfaced the arena, but the cones and marathon course there are equally rocky. I agree - barefoot unless you know you need shoes. Martie in MD Joel Harman wrote: > Why bother shoeing them at all? I have never put shoes on any of mine in > 14 yr. It takes about 30 mi. on gravel before they get tender.
Re: advice, please
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I get the heads up for halters by offering a piece of carrot or horse cookie. Or even a hay cube. Kilar is especially bad about picking his head up if there is ANYTHING to eat but looks forward to me coming into the field now. He knows he will get a goody if he puts on his halter although it took him a while for it to sink in. Martie in MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > My problem is how to get their heads up to get halters on, other than a royal > battle -- climb under neck, push up, try to hold up long enough to get halter > on. I know other fjord owners have had this problem. Am I being too soft? > Gail Dorine
Re: Rainbow's End Farm Horse Driving Trial- August 12, 2001
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vivian, How about some really nice stained glass Fjord pictures as trophies? Either to hang or in stand-alone wood frames. Just a thought. Sales pitch. Don't know if we can be there to help out, but would like to if Frida foals on time and we get our act together to find a new farm-sitter. We would not be showing a horse; have decided to do the pleasure drive routine this year and see how that works out. Martie in MD Vivian Creigh wrote: > This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If anyone is interested in helping out in any capacity please contact me > asap at my e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone 802-885-5762. It's > hard to imagine being ready for this event with all the snow on the ground > but the time to start is now. I am very interested in finding someone with a > creative approach to handling the trophies for this event as it would be > nice to offer something unique rather than the same old, same old... > Thanks, Vivian Creigh
Re: Our first time in public as a team! (long)
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Martie, > > Congratulations on your parade outing. In my opinion Parades are the hardest > things to do. Mass confusion, no time to settle in before you have to perform > and all the other things you encountered. I gave up doing the Woodstock > Wassail parade having cheated death, mine or someone else's in the crowd, for > several years. > > If you can do a parade you are more than ready for the challenges of Combined > Driving. Where you have ample time to settle in and there are so many things > to do and memorize you're usually to busy to stress about the what ifs? I > look forward to seeing you at some CDE's in the very near future... Vivian C. Vivian, Thanks for the encouragement. It was one of your earlier notes about 'drafty' Fjords and CDEs that made me decide to do SOMETHING with Kilar besides drive around in circles. We are now doing a little bit of hazard work and preparing some 'marathon trails' behind the hay field. He did his first cones course at home without fighting or attacking the cones just last week. He even pretended to be cheerful. We really need to work on dressage again, but he gets SO bored doing the same old things that I am trying to give him all three options plus hopefully now an occasional day away from home. Our biggest problem with going anywhere is that we do not have a trailer; this trip was thanks to my instructor and her husband who vanned us without charge. thanks again, Martie
Our first time in public as a team! (long)
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, we did it! Finally got the nerve up to go out with Kilar to the parade at the Fair Hill MD races today. Decided since he did a lot of parading with his previous owners, this would be the best way to get into things. Do something he was familiar with anyway. I had a couple bad moments when he first got out of the trailer at the track. He was neighing and challenging every horse he saw. Then one of the halflingers neighed back and he stood up taller, looked at him and said 'Oh, OK' and that was that. He was s calm and cool I could not believe he was the same terror of the cones course I usually drive. We led him around a little before harnessing; he wanted to visit the coolers and picnic baskets along the way. when he did nothing else, we hitched and drove around so he could look at everyone's turnouts and the big trucks and the scary bleachers (ho hum) and the race horses and all that stuff it was just so much boring walking around for him. Then the line up for the parade. No problem with Kilar, just put him where you want him. We were positioned on a steep hill where he had to hold the cart in place and wait. After a couple minutes I decided to pull him up the hill just a little higher where it was more level but still in line so that he could take some of the weight off, but he didn't really seem to mind. When we filed through the gate onto the track he gave one more hearty neigh at a poor distracted thouroughbred and off we jogged. The rest was orderly mayhem. Something evidently went wrong with the holding pattern. There was none. We expected each horse to be held at the first timber jump while the horse ahead trotted past the grandstand and was introduced (including a nice little intro about the horse's breed and the type of cart he was put to). The first horse went off fine; the 2nd followed immediately after; the 3rd was not going to be left out. The rest goes without saying. We looked like a cross between 'Wagons Ho' and the Ben Hur chariott races. But Kilar was such a trooper. He kept his distance from the cart ahead without any fussing from me (in fact when I tried to close up a little he told me NO! until I suggested a couple times). He obviously knows the proper distance. No problems going down the track past the grandstand except a flag snapped on one of the jumps just after we passed it and he sort of jumped a little. And of course he wanted to zoom in on all the tailgate parties and picnic lunches along the rail. When we came back past the grandstand the 2nd time, the crowd started clapping. Kilar jumped a little, looked to the side and started prancy-dancing like he knew the applause was all for him. What a ham! We had such a good time! We decided not to do the trail drive after the parade because it was so hot and Kilar is not fit for Fair Hill's UNfair hills. My instructor was in the cart with me as groom with calming, helpful hints, so that helped my nerves too. Spent all day Sunday at the Unicorn Farm CDE in Chesapeake City MD as a timer on one of the hazards. In the middle of a hay field in the blazing heat! Thanks to all on the list who gave me encouragement and helpful ideas! Maybe I'll try the Unicorn Farm CDE next year. We could have done the hazards if we went very slow. And if we were fit. And so on. But at least now I know I don't have to worry about Kilar being too 'wound up' for me. thanks again! Martie and Kilar in HOT muggy MD.
show vs parade protocols - grooming and appointments
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list, Martie in Maryland where we are finally getting some much needed rain. Funny how it rained all winter but now that we need it, we get nada. Except on my driving lesson days (Thursdays). Kilar and I have been invited to take part in the carriage parade at the Fairhill races, here in MD on the 31st. I have not decided yet whether to participate; it would be our first public appearance together if we say yes. Kilar has done parades with his previous owners and I have ridden at Fairhill on race day (no not racing) but we have never been away from home together. Questions: Kilar has a lot of leg hair. Long beautiful hair on the back of his knees/hocks to fetlocks and nice fluffy, feathery hair on his fetlocks and pasturns. I have ignored our trainer's wishes to have the leg hairs clipped because I personally like hairy horses. But for a parade/show, is it better to have him 'tidied up' a little? I don't want someone who doesn't know Fjords seeing him and saying 'my, what a lumpy, hairy little horse'. My husband has been threatening to make me braid his leg hair (Kilar's leg hair, not John's) before he trims his feet next time because he can't find the foot when he picks it up. And what about his forelock, also heavy? When I just drive for fun, I put his forelock into 2 pigtails and pull them to the sides (Viking style?) Looks sort of silly on a macho horse. Must be something better? One pigtail is so thick it makes a lump under his browband and Kris, our instructor does not like the look of it 'natural'. What about dress for the driver? Do I need the lap robe, gloves etc? A legal spares kit? We will be driving a Meadowbrook, not a 'carraige', but several other people I know will also be driving Meadowbrooks. We shouldn't even be thinking about this; I am the bashful, hide behind the barn type of driver, but 2 people from the parade committee and our vet have told me I should participate. Guess there has to be a first time. thanks for any suggestions, Martie and the furball, Kilar
Re: Tyr's training is not going so well.
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sorry to hear about Tyr's problem training. I had similar problems finding someone willing and able to train an older Arab some years ago. The only Arab trainer in our nearby area (trained mainly for the show circuits) gave him back saying he 'was not worth the time or getting hurt over' before he even started working with him. He was older, I think around 5 when we started riding training because he had had a severe injury and 'emothional trauma' as a 2 year old and the vet thought he just was not mature enough to train. Anyway, we tried 2 other trainers, one of whom trained quarter horses for reining and pleasure and was extremely calm and patient. He did call shortly after training started and say he 'had never been bucked so high in his life and not fallen off'. At first he suggested the horse might never be safe 'for a lady' to ride and wouldn't we prefer to sell him and find something easier. When I said no I wanted Kissy trained he said OK, got down to business and trained him as a 'push button' western pleasure horse. To make a long story short, not all trainers are capable of working with all horses IMO. Keep checking. Kissy was trained to do an immediate 'whoa' on voice or body command, and whatever else he gets into I can alway say 'whoa' (or anything that sounds like whoa, like 'go', 'no', 'crow') in my 'command voice' (ha!) and expect immediate response. that way I can dismount easilly in case there is reason to believe he might run or buck or whatever. He is extremely shy and spooky. silly even. But SO proud of his ability to stop on command that he looks for excuses, even when the devil himself is after him (in his mind) and the other horses are hot-footing it for home. Then he stands with his head and tail in the air looking around and saying 'look at me, I'm s good! and they're soo bad!' For my Fjord, I use a draft horse trainer/driving instructor who seems to understand Kilar and the ways he is the same and different from her own Percherons and Appaloosas. He got very pushy when I first got him because I treated him like the Arab. Kissy would not think of pushing me around; he gets treats out of my hands. He is allowed to look in my pockets. He understands 'no' means stop it now. Kilar did not. He does now, but needs more constant reminders. Once he started to understand that I was not a pushover he started behaving better under saddle; he was always good in harness. And one day recently I came home to discover that I have yet another trainer. One I did not hire. Anyone else out there have horses training other horses when you aren't watching? My pony, Wee Willy, is training Kilar to stand stretched on command. He walks up behind him and nips at his rump just about where the breeching would hit. Kilar stretches and stands there. Wee wanders off laughing. When Kilar gets tired of posing and moves, Wee goes back and sets him up again. I have no idea what Wee gets out of this. Or what Kilar gets out of it that he tolerates it. This morning when I went out to feed, Kilar had a goose in his tail. Yes, a large toulouse gander hanging on to the long tail and Kilar dragging him to the feeder. Kilar would stop and look around, the goose would pinch, Kilar would 'pose'. Then the thought of food would get too much and the show would move on again. I thought at first that the goose was tangled in the long tail, but no, he was hanging on by himself. Kilar even threatened him once with a hind foot, lifting it and pushing the goose gently, but the goose did not let go until I went after him. My horses are WIERD! So are my geese evidently. Martie in Maryland where the ground is finally dry enough to drive; and my harness is still too dirty to use.
Re: Stumbling and Farm work
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to everyone on the farm-working suggestions! Kilar is very strong. My trainer/instructor thinks that pound for pound he is stronger than her Percherons. But of course, being so much smaller she has no idea just how much horse power I can expect from him. I will try the Small Farm Journal and talk to some people in Lancaster PA about 'smaller' forecarts and how they use them with their 'small' Belgians. Fetching the hay may not be a good idea. There is a pretty good hill coming home loaded with hay. Or maybe I can just make 4 trips instead of the current 2 with the pickup truck. My husband can't understand why I would like to do the work with the horse, since it is so much faster to do it with the tractor/truck. But he doesn't really care to spend hours playing with the horses either. About stumbling; Kilar stumbles once in a while trail riding if he is NOT in front. He doesn't pay attention unless he is on 'lookout'. An attention deficit thing, I guess. But I would advise anyone with a stumbling problem to get a vet's opinion. I had a quarter horse that stumbled and just kept having the farrier try different things with him. He had EPM and by the time I finally got it diagnosed he was pretty far gone. He will probably never recover completely. thanks again, Martie, John and Kilar
re: Fjords and farm work?
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No answers to my previous message about fore-carts and Fjords doing farmwork. Guess either no one out there has anything to say. Any ideas where I can get some info? Other lists? Books? People to interview? ANYTHING? thanks for any info, Martie, John and Kilar (who is finally looking more like a horse than a yak and leaving lots of hair for the wrens to build their nests out of).
Re: Here's a new (controversial?) topic!
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bushnell's wrote: > > This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This MSM subject is interesting to me as I've been trying it on my Fila > Mastiff dog who has a severe problem in his back quarters, he's only two > years old! I wonder if you could further explain the caution in using it > along with...what? > > Fila, I only meant that with DMSO/MSM as a carrier, everything else it is used with might get to its target sight in higer doses and/or faster than you expect. Also, if there are any toxins (do you use insecticides in the barn?) in contact with the DMSO/horse in a skin application, the insecticides can be transported into the horses (or your own) system quite quickly. I remember once not wearing gloves handling DMSO and getting immediately the garlic flavor. And this just from touching it, NOT getting any actually into my mouth. It moves through the skin very quickly.
Re: Here's a new (controversial?) topic!
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex, We have been using MSM off and on for about 20 years for inflamation and arthritis in older horses. Sometimes in addition to BUTE. I used it on my old (25-34 yr) old pony on the advice of my vet; the pony did not tolerate BUTE very well, or the other medications we tried. The MSM seemed to keep him moving and mostly painfree until the last year of his life. He had had a severe shoulder injury when he was about 15 and had problems off and on for the rest of his life. With the MSM, we used him up to the last 6 months before he died of a heart failure after a severe colic at age 34. We currently use it on my husband's 31 year old Tennessee Walker who has some hip inflamation and once in a while on my 23 year old Quarter horse who is recovering from EPM. As far as using it on humans, I would advise caution. It IS chemically the same thing as DMSO. I believe that it is the ultrapurified form of DMSO. DMSO does not 'contain' solvent; the impure form melts at room temperature or below. And of course, DMSO can dissolve most organic compounds and move them, as a carrier, into your system through the skin. Need to be very careful what else you are using at the same time as DMSO so as not to injest anything harmful. I am not sure if the solid would also act as a carrier for things in the feed if fed as the solid. And I am not sure what the impurities are in DMSO that make it melt so low. Water, for sure, but what else? PS. I was a chemist who used DMSO a LOT in the laboratory before I retired. Martie in Maryland
Fjords and farm work - equipment
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Still can't seem to get the hand of addressing these #(*%&%& things! Martie My husband, John and I are thinking of buying a fore-cart and asking Kilar to do a little farm work for us. Just light stuff, I think. We have never actually done any draft work except moving tree stumps and logs. Can anyone tell me about fore-carts? What should I look for/avoid when purchasing? How heavy should the fore-cart be? I looked at one that a Percheron person uses and it seems awfully heavy to hitch a Fjord to AND ask him to pull the small manure spreader, for instance. How much weight can a single Fjord be expected to pull? Can I reasonably expect him to be able to pull the fore-cart, manure spreader and manure? We have only one hill to worry about; he would be heading down hill with the spreader full and coming up the hill empty. The actual spreading would be mostly on the flat. I would also like to use him to pull a hay wagon to the neighbors to pick up hay (approx 25 bales at a time). This would be across fields, not on roads but would be UP hill with the hay. I could make more trips for fewer bales at a time (that might be even more fun - more of an excuse to stay out with him). He has been laid off most of the winter, so would need to be gotten back into shape slowly, but he is a heavy built, drafty type of Fjord and VERY strong! He did mostly draft work before I bought him. Thanks for any help. Martie and Kilar in raining-again Maryland. But it is getting better!
Looking for a draft type Fjord
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Rob Johnson would be interested in hearing about draft type Fjords for sale and in information about the breed in general. I am sure he is especially interested in anyone in Australia, but said he would like to hear from anyone with the drafty type fjords. Please Email him privately or send information packets to his snail-mail address. I gave him the Fjordlist address in case he wants to join. thanks, Martie in MD where the wind is threatening to blow the roof off the new barn but the crocus are UP and flowering! ===Original Message=== From: "White Lodge Carriage Drives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fjords and Fjord owners Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:49:05 +1000 No worries Martie , I would like to hear from people with the old style draughty types , my address is Rob Johnson. RMB 429 Sandon. Via Newstead 3462. Victoria . Australia phone/fax 03 54 76 2023
Re: Geldings
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, I had also heard that in Norway the 'also-rans' were meat. My understanding was that my own Fjord was a second class colt, gelded and probably going to the butcher when he was purchased to be imported to USA. Probably the breeder's first import experience, as they said they would not import another gelding. Too much hassle to be had importing something they couldn't use as breeding stock. But they kept and used him for several years before allowing me to addopt him and I am SO grateful. Of course this is only hear-say. I am certainly glad we do not do some things the same as Norway. But speaking with a woman from Norway a while back, she said farmland was at a premium and hard to buy and it was difficult to keep as many animals as a person would like. Martie in raining-again Maryland
Re: Lighten up!
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Gerstel wrote: > > This message is from: David Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > i think too few people talk too much, and most of those don't listen. seems > to me there are too many podiums, too many ads, and too much ranting. I think I agree on the too many podiums and too much ranting. I originally joined the list to get to know more about Fjords, bloodlines, general horsey stuff and just 'sit around talking to other horse people'. The pleasure is dribbling away and I find myself deleting more messages than I read top to bottom. where has the fun gone? I think the winters are too long! Martie in MD, waiting for either snow or 60's? You can never tell.
Re: The North American Gjest Challenge
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arthur Rivoire wrote: > Carol, I never intended to try Kilar as a 'racing' Fjord, he does not have the interest, but just to see how fast he could fly around a 1K track, I trotted him as fast as he could go (with only 1 break) for the distance, and we finished in less than 5 minutes. It sure felt fast to me. I can't even imagine the thrill of going 1K at a little over 2 minutes. Must be just great! Obviously Kilar is not going to be a winner of the fastest time. Maybe the slowest. I think it is a great idea, though. Martie and Kilar in rainy/snowy/sleety Maryland where they just promised us 60 degrees by mid-week.
Re: choppy trot and tripping
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Starfire Farm, L.L.C. wrote: > > This message is from: "Starfire Farm, L.L.C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >... > On a trail ride, I have noticed that some horses, fjords especially, > have a tendency to trip if they are not the lead horse on a trail. To > check the tripping horse out, I move him to the front, where he usually > picks up interest in what is in front of him, and starts picking up his > feet! > > Beth > Starfire Farm in sunny,gorgeous today, Colorado. Beth, Your note on Fjords being in front of the trail ride must be the difference. I wondered that my Fjord so seldom trips. He almost always leads our rides (except sometimes coming home; he like to keep on going new places and sometimes goes SO slowly coming home that we need to put someone ahead of him to lead him on). He is the only horse I have that does NOT trip regularly. Of course, he is also the only horse I have under the age of 20. We have routinely trimmed him a just little more upright with his front toes rolled because our previous pony tended to grow a long toe and trip. Martie
Re: How cold is it
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We are at I think +1 right now. We have well over 2.5 feet of snow on the > ground and it is still coming at about 2" an hour right now. Most schools > are closed and they just issued a warning about "Unnecessary Travel" on the > radio. > > We are supposed to get that warm stuff later on today and through the > weekend too from what I hear. > > Mike > > === > > Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry > Mike May, Registrar > Voice 716-872-4114 > FAX 716-787-0497 > > http://www.nfhr.com > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Martie from slick and slippery Maryland here. I have been reading all the postings about whether or not to bring your horses into the barn when the weather is bad but heard only ideas about how the horses will 'get through the weather' and whether it is healthier to leave them out or bring them in. We live in that weather corridor where we may get a little snow, but if we do, it is immediately followed by rain, sleet and freezing rain so that the ground is an ice-rink. So far since the 1st of the new year, both John and I have taken spills and made unintended snow-angels trying to get the livestock fed and walking across snowcovered ice patches. The geese evidently find this interesting if not downright hilarious, but John and I do not. Our policy has been whenever it is going to be slick, or there is any chance the ground will be slick, we bring the horses in to the barn and feed/water there. That way we have less chances of falling while feeding. The horses seem to do OK on the slippery ice most of the time except for the shetland who 'freezes in place' whenever he starts to slip and needs to be hand-escorted off the slippery patch. Martie in Maryland, where we just had another 2 days of nasty freezing rain.
RE: Calendars
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi there, This is Martie from Maryland, where I have received my 3rd Fjord calendar. I guess we have a little confusion over either how many I ordered, or how many you sent. I had intended to order 2 and sent a check for 2. I have recieved 3 in 3 separate mailings. I will send along another check for the 3rd one, but please do not send any more? I guess I will need your adress again; I seem to have deleted your original message with the address attached. Appologies for the confusion, Martie and the gang
Stall building and 'horse items for sale?'
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Martie and John here in Maryland, where the plants have finally succombed to frost (except for one hardy miniature rose which is blooming it's little red heart out in the middle of a dead garden). Questions: We are putting up a new barn, 6 stalls-one of which will be a tack/feed room. We want to use 'plastic lumber' for the stall walls. Has anyone out there had any experience with plastic lumber? This is NOT the hollow stuff that fences are made from, but recycled, solid polyethylene we get from a local recycling center. The boards are 1"X6". The price is about the same or a little less than T-111 or pine boards and hopefully more long-lived and durable. But does anyone know if it might pose any health hazards for horses? So far, none of our horses have shown any interest in chewing it, but Fjords being so oral If we use the recycled lumber, does anyone know how much reinforcement might be needed for the interior stall walls; every 2 feet? closer? The interior walls will be about 4' high with a row of galvanized bars another 3' above. For sale: I am thinking about selling stained glass items via the Internet. I currently do horse related patterns based on the customer's photograph and small horse 'ornaments' for hanging in windows or on the Christmas tree. I do have a 'generic' Fjord ornament design. A custom window runs about $50 for 10X14" for a 'modestly complicated' design (~50 pieces or less). Small ornaments run about $8 and all can be done in any colors. For more information, pictures of finished products and price lists, please contact me privately. If you want one of my own patterns, the price is a little less compared to custom pattern. I would not be able to have much for this Christmas, since I have about a 30 day backlog but would like to know if there is any interest out ther. Please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!! Martie and John
Re: Fjord calendars
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Knutsen wrote: > > This message is from: Doug Knutsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This message is from Peg Knutsen; > > Hi to Marsha Jo Hannah - On Thursday you inquired about 1999 Fjord calendars. > We have made one with pictures of our Fjords to give for Christmas. We > could snail-mail them to anyone who was interested - we think they're very > nice, and we're not barn blind in the least I think $6.00 would cover > the cost of the paper, mailer, postage, etc. How does that sound? Let me > know if you're interested. Thanks, Peg I would be interested in a couple copies of the calendar. How do I order?? Martie in Maryland
Re: safety concerns
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Martie here, About helmets - I have been wearing my hardhat to drive almost since I started. Right after begining to learn to drive, I attended the Internationals at Fair Hill (last year) and there was a terrible accident where a vehicle overturned, the horse kicked it to pieces, the drivers fell out; at least one was run over; one person who tried to catch the horse before he could hurt himself any further was run over - an on-and on. This was only last year. I had driven Kilar only a couple times and my lesson horse only about a dozen times. It all seemed so much safer than riding. I always wear a helmet to ride. I have had too many 'dizzy' horses; for some reason I seem to attract or be attracted to the nutsies. Having fallen off many times (without serious injuries) and haven been knocked unconsious even WITH a hard hat I wouldn't think of getting ON a horse without the hard hat. It just took seeing someone else get hurt driving to bring it home to me that driving is at least as potentially dangerous as riding. Now, even when I ground drive, I wear the hardhat. By the way, I bought my husband one of those western hard-hats. He wore it once or twice. Now he wears one of those air-conditioned looking new plastic models. He rides western though, and would really like a nice western hard hat that doesn't make him look like he has a 10 gallon head. Martie in Maryland
Re: Blatant Advertising on the list
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Gerstel wrote: > > This message is from: David Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I THINK ITS THE FREQUENCY AND THE TONE OF THE ADS. MOST PEOPLE KNOW CAROL > SELLS HORSES, LODGING AND A BOOK. PERSONALLY, I THINK AN AD TYPE POSTING > SHOULD BE RESTRICTED TO SAY, ONCE A MONTH OR A QUARTER. I BELIEVE THE > MAJORITY OF READERS ARE LOOKING FOR HELP IN TRAINING, FELLOWSHIP, ETC. IF > WE WANT TO BUY, WE KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. ITS THE FACT THAT SELLING OVERLAYS > EDUCATION, AND SEEMS TO BE OVERWHELMING IT. > > DAVID GERSTEL I personally enjoy seeing the ads. It would be nice if there were someting in the supject line so those who do not want to buy a horse can delete without reading. I am still looking for a horse, but not quite ready to buy, so Carol's messages about horses, descriptions and prices is quite informative to me. I have only purchased a single Fjord. I really want to know more about what is out there. Martie in dim and dreary Maryland, wishing I were out driving
re: FairHill CDE's
This message is from: john & martie bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi to the list! I have spent the past 4 days at Fairhill at the CDE's and CCI's. Yes! Vivian and Marnix did a great job. I wish I had been able to watch more of their competition, but I was a carriage weigher and always in the wrong place to see the intermediate competition! I did see Marnix and Vivian having a splash in the water hazard. They came in 2nd overall to Kimberly Wheeler of Middletown DE with 'Miles To Go', a 5 year old Conn/TB gelding owned by Lana Wright of Chesapeake City MD. Their points were 112.2 compared to Vivian's 128.6 overall. 3rd place was John Taylor of West Grove PA with 'Chauncey', a 10 year old Hackney gelding owned by Controversy Farm PA with 133.8 points. I hope I have the points correct; just picked up my copy of the finishes at the Volunteer Booth. And what a beautiful weekend for it! This to Vivian: I really did try to come by and say hi! I had several talks with Marnix, who was always there when I stopped and understandably proud of himself, but obviously your schedule and mine did not mesh. Maybe next time? Congratulations!!! Martie of MD where the leaves are finally trying to change, but falling faster than changing this year.