Re: Helmets FOR KIDS
This message is from: Amy Evers >any ideas as to how to at least pitch a few lines to protect the young & innocent?? Whatever you say, try saying it quietly and with tact. If you don't meet with an answer that is to your approval, let it drop. Say you tried and call it good. Nothing worse than the proverbial harpy that comes up screatching at person how bad a parent they are because they don't use helmets like you do. Happy riding! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Cottage Grove OR 97424 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets FOR KIDS
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" At 03:15 PM 10/15/2009, you wrote: >This message is from: Deb Logan > >I was at a ride recently, & saw a 4 year old girl riding, with NO HELMET...it >really bothered me, I wanted to say something, but it would not have been >nice, or effective - any ideas as to how to at least pitch a few lines to >protect the young & innocent?? Yes - SAY SOMETHING!!! >Helmet Hair Deb > >in NW WA > >> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:00:29 -0700 >> From: sarahmagdalencla...@yahoo.com >> Subject: Re: Helmets >> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >> >> This message is from: Sarah Clarke >> >> Just adding my voice to the pro-helmet crowd. >> >> It is a miniscule >> > investment compared to the cost of brain injury/damage, or worse yet, >> death. >> AGREED, AND ON MY HEALTH PLAN A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM COSTS $75.00, >$100 >> IF THEY ADMIT. MORE THAN A HELMET (EXCEPT A CHARLES OWEN) EVEN IF YOU >DON'T >> GET BRAIN DAMAGE. >> >> > Generally, those who resist helmets wearing >> DON'T RIDE MY HORSES OR RIDE ON MY PROPERTY! >> >> Important FjordHorse List Links: >> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >> Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f >> >> > >_ >Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ > >Important FjordHorse List Links: >Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 Toll Free Fax - 888-646-5613 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:regist...@nfhr.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets, Stars and safety equiptment
This message is from: Lola Lahr Thanks for the good laugh! I loved your "diagnosis"! On 10/21/09, bry...@together.net wrote: > > This message is from: bry...@together.net > > . > A few years back, I saw a cowboy type clinician. He had a cowboy hat > (clinic was inside), chinks, boots and a big belt buckle. He talked to the > crowd about how he didn't need a helmet cause he had a big felt cowboy hat > on and it would protect him in a fall. Can't remember who it was - the guy > lost all credibility with me. Figured he had been dinged in the head so many > times by a horse, his brains weren't working well anymore. > > Marcy > > www.briarhillfarm.com > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets Comment #3
This message is from: Cynthia Madden OK, I do have one more comment: When we were forming Zia Carriage Driving Club, we had a big debate about requring helmets. We put in our membership form that all under age 18 would wear helmets whenever horses were present,. We continued to discuss the issue and finally decided that we would require helmets by any participant in a horse related activity. We do make an exception for pleasure shows, but encourage the use of decorated helmets. I know this policy cost us some members...too bad for them. The telling comment for helping us decide to be firm about most events was one of our more senior members, who upon thinking the issue over decided to finally buy a helmet because he wanted to set an example for his grandchildren. They could never say, "why do I have to wear one when you don't?" The other reason is one our primary purposes is to educate our members and safety was of utmost concern. When we have a clinic, we make sure the clinician is aware that he/she will wear a helmet while providing lessons...no exceptions. This has never caused a problem. If everyone is wearing a helmet, no one feels funny wearing one. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM cynt...@carriagehorse.com http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses. ~Herman Melville, Redburn. His First Voyage, 1849 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets
This message is from: Linda Lottie well said Cynthia..I have the same requirement at my farm. No one has ever refused. Linda in WI "Adoption Loss is the only trauma in the world where the victims are expected by the whole of society to be grateful" - The Reverend Keith C. Griffith, MBE Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets
This message is from: Cynthia Madden One last comment from me, actually two! 1) No one gets in one my carts or rides one of horses with a helmet (and I will provide them one). It is the option of my guest if they don't want to participate. 2). Gail, I understand completely what you say and I can't help but agree. It just points out once more that brain trauma can traumatize the family more than the injured individual. I think your perspective should be reflected upon by anyone on this list who doesn't wear a helmet. Thanks for sharing what was obviously a very painful period in your life. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM cynt...@carriagehorse.com http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses. ~Herman Melville, Redburn. His First Voyage, 1849 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets, adjustments...rt
This message is from: "coy...@acrec.com" ...I was sort of hoping that the "scalp must move" rule could be avoided... I could use high school physics (for example KE = 1/2*m*V^^2) to explain, but the bottom line is this: the closer your skull is to the compressive cushioning, the better. The helmet is designed as a one-time energy absorbing cushion between your skull and the ground. It absorbs as much energy from an impact as possible by distorting, crumpling, and breaking up. That means a helmet that fits snugly is better as long as it doesn't hurt. Your skull should contact the cushioning as quick as possible in an accident. The looser the fit, the less energy the helmet will absorb -- which means your head will absorb the energy instead, and the possibility of injury will be exponentially higher. That is why a good, trim fit is so important. It is also important to replace a helmet after an impact, however trivial. If the compressive layer is crushed, compressed, or cracked, the helmet will NOT function properly in a second impact. --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: Barbara Greetings from Middleage Spread, Nine years ago when we bought our two fjords we did not know any thing about horses or how to ride. We hired a trainer and were told by both the trainer and the stable owner where we were boarding that we could not ride without boots with heels and a helmet. A year later went we went out for our first solo ride without our trainer riding on a path along a hay field, my sweet (but known to spook) Biscuit did a little dance ending with a buck that tossed me over her head, as I was looking down on her ears I thought," Well I can let go of the reins now." Helmet was cracked. So yes we wear helmets always. Simple reason is not so much about ourself but that we have made a promise to our horses that we will do what ever we can to see to it that they are always taken care of. I want to make a poster for our barn, just a simple photo of a helmet with the caption underneath "GOT BRAINS" Barb Middleage Spread Eagle Creek OR. Overcast 55 F 13 days to go to retirement ! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: "jerry friz" Lisa, I am with you 100 percent, yes, I have seen the fools with no helmuts die. Jerry. I live in Pure Cowboy Country. NOBODY here wears a helmet, nobody except myself and my kids. > I continue to wear my he lmet, and proudly, in spite of the remarks I get. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets, adjustments...rt
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net" I was sort of hoping that the "scalp must move" rule could be avoided if one had a helmet that came down over the back of the neck...like the Tipperary. My theory is the more encompassing shape of the Tipperary means the helmet stays in place better. The helmets that have moved my scalp have hurt and given me headaches. If the "scalp must move" rule is about not having any travel space for the head when head and helmet hit the ground (such that both hit at the same time) I can see that the rule would still apply. If it is about keeping the helmet in place...I would hope I could fudge a little in that realm? Gail I was told to check the fit by seeing if the helmet would slide off the head w/o the chin strap (it shouldn't) , or if the scalp moves with the helmet (it should). Hopefully someone who sells tack can elaborate... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets
This message is from: "Lisa" I live in Pure Cowboy Country. NOBODY here wears a helmet, nobody except myself and my kids. We are ridiculed quite often for wearing helmets, but I won't budge. I grew up with a very ornery pony that bucked me off constantly -- this was back in New England, everyone wore helmets there, even in the 70s. My helmet saved my life numerous times. I was bucked off into stone walls, stepped on in the head --everything you can think of. On the other hand, a neighbor just down the road from me was kicked in the head when handling a stallion and the neighbor died. This happened about 2 years ago. The stallion was supposedly "easy" to handle. I saw the life-flight helicopter fly over my house and take him away. A helmet may have saved his life. We also had a big story here about a little girl riding a horse during the stock-show -- I think she was three or four. Fell off in a soft arena, no helmet, and now she is brain damaged. Again, on the annual wagon ride, there was a gentleman who took a spill, no helmet, and was killed by the fall. I continue to wear my helmet, and proudly, in spite of the remarks I get. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets
This message is from: Cynthia Madden I am going to chime in here because I feel so strongly about helmets. Many of you know Tank and how extremely unexcitable he is. However, I was riding Tank (the last time I have ridden bareback) several years ago when he spooked and I slam dunked off of him onto very hard ground. I felt the helmet compress when I landed. I didn't get a head injury because I was wearing the helmet.I did break two ribs and my collar bone. Oh yeah, we were walking. Years of experience of rider/driver or horse have nothing to do with the sudden accident that can cause a brain injury. IMHO, those who chose not to wear helmets because it is their choice not to, do not care for the anguish of family members who may have to care for them if they get brain injured or worse, bury them.. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM cynt...@carriagehorse.com http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses. ~Herman Melville, Redburn. His First Voyage, 1849 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: "Beth" I had a very similar experience and ended up with a concussion.. at that time I didn't wear a helmet...( back in the seventys..) However from that day on I have worn a helmet and no one rides here without one.. no helmet no ride.. So far no one has argued with me here. Doesn't matter how good a rider or how well trained a horse is.. accidents happen. Beth in Maine where we are having winter chill in October..:( were "Good Riders" so didn't need a helmet!. Well, the time my helmet really saved my head was when my well broke, gentle Fjord STUMBLED unexpectedly and went down on his nose, and I went over his head landing on my head, felt the shock down my whole > Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: Starfire Farm plumg...@pon.net wrote: A person on this list (who can pipe up if she wants to) started wearing a helmet after the day that she was riding in a Buck Branaman clinic. The horses were lined up at a standstill in front of Buck, and Buck was teaching how to get horses to cross over in front to move their front quarters. Buck had the end of the mecarte, and the rider had the reins (as I understand it). The horse got his legs tangled up and went down in the arena (think soft dust arena). The rider ended up with a concussion. Yea, that was me. I still don't remember the horse going down. All I remember is being on the horse and looking down at Buck thinking, "Gee, I have the best seat in the house." Next thing I remember is looking up at Buck (as he was right at my side) and wondering who he was and where I was. They said I was out for over a minute (and my poor mom was there and saw the whole thing). I have had several horses go down with me during my lifetime (young, green colts) and I always thought that I would be able to handle it, like I had in the past. This time, I never had a chance to do anything about it. Very experienced horse trainers, who watched the event, told me that it happened so quickly that I never had a chance to prepare for the horse going down. Once I had my wits about me, I asked Buck about it and he said that he thought the horse might have crossed both front and hind legs at the same time, but it happed so quickly that even he wasn't sure. The arena was very well worked, several inches deep and soft, but the whiplash effect of the horse coming down with me really created a lot of force. Could I have fractured my neck because I was wearing a helmet? Perhaps. Who can know that? With the location of the bruise on the side of my head, I don't think my neck would have fractured, but it's after the fact and I will never know. Prior to that, I never had a problem riding those spinny kind of carnival rides, etc. Now, I have to be careful about how I go about my day, because I can get vertigo at the drop of a hat, ten years after the accident. So, stuff happens, even under the best of circumstances. Even with all of that wonderful preparation, whatever program you work with, horses can still spook and horses can fall. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net" HmmmI wonder what that instructor would say after being sued for the cost of caring for an invalid for the rest of their life. A contingency-only lawyer would love that set of facts. Someone on another list wrote to the Parellli organization and got the same story. That person was actually starting a letter writing campaign to the Parelli organization...but for now...what you got is the "Parelli line." A person on this list (who can pipe up if she wants to) started wearing a helmet after the day that she was riding in a Buck Branaman clinic. The horses were lined up at a standstill in front of Buck, and Buck was teaching how to get horses to cross over in front to move their front quarters. Buck had the end of the mecarte, and the rider had the reins (as I understand it). The horse got his legs tangled up and went down in the arena (think soft dust arena). The rider ended up with a concussion. So...you can get hurt with a broke horse, at a near standstill, on a soft arena, in a deep-seated western saddle, with an experience rider AND Buck Branaman on the end of the lead rope. Gail When I took a Parelli clinic here, the instructor ridiculed me for wearing a helmet, saying that Parelli teaches you and your horse to be safe and Parelli students don't fall offsomething like that. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: Lola Lahr If you have good insurance and make a choice that results in your using it in the way Robin describes, you are driving up the cost of health insurance for the rest of us too. That also is unfair. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Lola Lahr wrote: > Amen Robin > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Robin Churchill wrote: > >> This message is from: Robin Churchill >> >> I guess if you have good insurance, including long-term care insurance >> then it is your business whether you wear a helmet or not. Unfortunately >> most people who get a serious head injury don't seem to have planned on >> needing medical care for the rest of their lives, so the taxpayers are >> paying for their care which I think is unfair. It is pretty clear that >> wearing a helmet decreases the risk of serious head injury but we all know >> that nothing protects us 100% of the time, particularly when we sustain some >> other type of injury that the helmet was not designed to prevent. I have >> only fallen 4 times and every time I was wearing a helmet. Once I saw stars >> and technically probably had a mild concussion and another time recently, I >> broke the helmet. Come see what somebody with a serious head injury looks >> like lying in the ICU and then decide if you want to wear your helmet or >> not--it's generally not a pretty sight. It bears little resemblance to what >> they show >> on TV. >> >> >> Robin in SW Florida where there is supposed to be a cold front this >> weekend to get the temps down into the 70s >> >> Important FjordHorse List Links: >> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >> Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: Lola Lahr Amen Robin On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Robin Churchill wrote: > This message is from: Robin Churchill > > I guess if you have good insurance, including long-term care insurance then > it is your business whether you wear a helmet or not. Unfortunately most > people who get a serious head injury don't seem to have planned on needing > medical care for the rest of their lives, so the taxpayers are paying for > their care which I think is unfair. It is pretty clear that wearing a helmet > decreases the risk of serious head injury but we all know that nothing > protects us 100% of the time, particularly when we sustain some other type > of injury that the helmet was not designed to prevent. I have only fallen 4 > times and every time I was wearing a helmet. Once I saw stars and > technically probably had a mild concussion and another time recently, I > broke the helmet. Come see what somebody with a serious head injury looks > like lying in the ICU and then decide if you want to wear your helmet or > not--it's generally not a pretty sight. It bears little resemblance to what > they show > on TV. > > > Robin in SW Florida where there is supposed to be a cold front this weekend > to get the temps down into the 70s > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: helmets - trying to push them on people who don't use them.
This message is from: Robin Churchill I guess if you have good insurance, including long-term care insurance then it is your business whether you wear a helmet or not. Unfortunately most people who get a serious head injury don't seem to have planned on needing medical care for the rest of their lives, so the taxpayers are paying for their care which I think is unfair. It is pretty clear that wearing a helmet decreases the risk of serious head injury but we all know that nothing protects us 100% of the time, particularly when we sustain some other type of injury that the helmet was not designed to prevent. I have only fallen 4 times and every time I was wearing a helmet. Once I saw stars and technically probably had a mild concussion and another time recently, I broke the helmet. Come see what somebody with a serious head injury looks like lying in the ICU and then decide if you want to wear your helmet or not--it's generally not a pretty sight. It bears little resemblance to what they show on TV. Robin in SW Florida where there is supposed to be a cold front this weekend to get the temps down into the 70s Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: Lola Lahr The manufacturers, as well as outside experts, recommend replacing helmets within 5 years of manufacture. The materials naturally break down and after 5 years may not hold up in an accident. Helmets should also be replaced after every incident (any hard blow to the helmet) for the same reason. It may look like it's ok, but it's structural integrity could be compromised and is then unsafe or won't protect you in an accident. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Helmets
This message is from: Karen McCarthy Not trying to say the Tippperary is the 'only' way to go helmet-wise, but they do offer a couple of foam shims which velcro in. (( My head must be "perfect" as I didn't require them ;~)) Kmac... :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: "jerry friz" Hi List, What I have found in helmets--- Each manufacture, makes different shapes, uses different materials. So, what might fit me would not fit you. I always buy mine in a shop where I can try several on. I find with a lot of use they only last a couple years, so I am always looking for a new one. When I bought my ski helmet I had to go to 4 or 5 stores to find one that fit correctly. You will know when you find the right size. Same when buying western boots, or better yet English riding boots. Rule number 1. NEVER mail order !!! to save a nickel, only to pitch the helmet in the back of the tack room. Same thing applies to a protective vest, mine fits perfect, only after trying several on. Cheers, Jerry Friz, Anderson,Ca. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: Sarah Clarke Just adding my voice to the pro-helmet crowd. It is a miniscule > investment compared to the cost of brain injury/damage, or worse yet, death. AGREED, AND ON MY HEALTH PLAN A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM COSTS $75.00, $100 IF THEY ADMIT. MORE THAN A HELMET (EXCEPT A CHARLES OWEN) EVEN IF YOU DON'T GET BRAIN DAMAGE. > Generally, those who resist helmets wearing DON'T RIDE MY HORSES OR RIDE ON MY PROPERTY! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: Lola Lahr My Tipperary Sportage literally saved my noggin (as KMac puts it ;-) a > couple of years ago. I came out of it with a few minutes if unconsciousness, > a bruise on my head, an incredible rayed crack pattern on the outside shell, > and a horrifying set of cracks in the styrofoam inside the helmet. I keep > it to remind myself, and anyone who doubts the value of wearing helmets,of > what my head would have looked like without that Tipperary on my head. And > my wonderful Fjord horse and I were quietly standing still on the side of > the trail when it all started to happen. The shape of the Troxels (more of an oval shape)doesn't fit my round head, > but they have some rally cool colrs that are so fun! It is a miniscule > investment compared to the cost of brain injury/damage, or worse yet, death. > Generally, those who resist helmets wearing helmets will tell a story of > someone they know whose life, and/or some serious neck injury was spared > because they weren't wearing one. I say take the chance and wear one!!! Your > chances of being spared the worst are a LOT less with a *helmet in place*to > mitigate the impact of your fragile skull hitting the hard ground, or > some other surface more stubborn than your skull. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Helmets
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you List for your advice on helmets. I finally got myself into a store to try a bunch on. They didn't have Tipperary. I ended up with a Troxel Sierra. It was more $$ than I wanted to spend but it fit my head the very best so I got it and will use it when doing ground work (and riding) from now on. Bonnie MacCurdy, Visalia, CA103 degrees and rising - Original Message - From: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Helmets This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Helmet brand and style really does make a difference to the comfort of the helmet. I had one that I thought fit me well, but it did not. I had bought one that was too small in order to keep it from falling off because it was not shaped well to my head. I have since bought a new one and there is a world of difference in the comfort of wearing the helmet. Sometimes I even forget to take the new one off, whereas the other one I was ripping off the minute I dismounted. Try lots on to get one that is comfy. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Helmets
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Helmet brand and style really does make a difference to the comfort of the helmet. I had one that I thought fit me well, but it did not. I had bought one that was too small in order to keep it from falling off because it was not shaped well to my head. I have since bought a new one and there is a world of difference in the comfort of wearing the helmet. Sometimes I even forget to take the new one off, whereas the other one I was ripping off the minute I dismounted. Try lots on to get one that is comfy. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Helmets
This message is from: "fjords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I absolutely love my Tipperary helmets. They fit my head more comfortably than other brands that I tried. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Clarke Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:20 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Helmets This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Mike, ASTM/SEI certification is a must. (Unless they are certified they carry a warning label that says something like "apparel only.") Unless you are doing a repeat buy, it's best to not mail order but go where you can try them on, as different brands vary in their shape from oval to round, and you need to get a feel for what shape fits your head the best. when you first put it on try to shake it off. If you can, it's too loose. My personal brand favorite is the Troxel. It has hidden vents even on my dressy velvet show helmet. I think Helmet cost for a non-velvet schooling helmet is pretty darn reasonable. But then I figured out early on I was never going to earn a living by my looks or athletic ability so I guess I better take good care of my brain. When I started teaching lessons and the Boy scout horsemanship badge I invested in 6 adjustable helmets (2 each small, medium and large) so nobody will ever have the excuse of I haven't got my helmet. Bicycle helmets do not cover all the same areas of the head as horse helmets. I don't know if they are ASTM certified - that's very important. to get ASTM certification they do controlled testing to bash in the helmet and see how much force is transmitted. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Hi all, Since we are on the subject of helmets, which ones do you like or dislike? I need to get one and don't want to pay a ton. Will bicycle helmets suffice or are "equine" helmets more durable? It is hot where I live so ventilation is important to me. Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bonnie MacCurdy Visalia, CA---HOT - Original Message - From: "Emily Wigley" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Helmets > This message is from: Emily Wigley > > Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think > your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is." > Suffice it to say that we simply wear helmets, in and out of the saddle > (and cart., although I rarely drive). I always wear one grooming my tall > warmbloods because I've been clocked in the side of the head by tall > youngsters a couple of times. I wear a helmet when teaching unless I'm > standing in the middle of the arena -- often I'm walking near the horse > or longing, and not only think it's a safe thing to do but a very good > excample to all my students, who range in age from just 6 to 60 at the > moment. > Emily, flat haired today and proud of it! > :-) > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Mike, ASTM/SEI certification is a must. (Unless they are certified they carry a warning label that says something like "apparel only.") Unless you are doing a repeat buy, it's best to not mail order but go where you can try them on, as different brands vary in their shape from oval to round, and you need to get a feel for what shape fits your head the best. when you first put it on try to shake it off. If you can, it's too loose. My personal brand favorite is the Troxel. It has hidden vents even on my dressy velvet show helmet. I think Helmet cost for a non-velvet schooling helmet is pretty darn reasonable. But then I figured out early on I was never going to earn a living by my looks or athletic ability so I guess I better take good care of my brain. When I started teaching lessons and the Boy scout horsemanship badge I invested in 6 adjustable helmets (2 each small, medium and large) so nobody will ever have the excuse of I haven't got my helmet. Bicycle helmets do not cover all the same areas of the head as horse helmets. I don't know if they are ASTM certified - that's very important. to get ASTM certification they do controlled testing to bash in the helmet and see how much force is transmitted. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Hi all, Since we are on the subject of helmets, which ones do you like or dislike? I need to get one and don't want to pay a ton. Will bicycle helmets suffice or are "equine" helmets more durable? It is hot where I live so ventilation is important to me. Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bonnie MacCurdy Visalia, CA---HOT - Original Message - From: "Emily Wigley" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Helmets > This message is from: Emily Wigley > > Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think > your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is." > Suffice it to say that we simply wear helmets, in and out of the saddle > (and cart., although I rarely drive). I always wear one grooming my tall > warmbloods because I've been clocked in the side of the head by tall > youngsters a couple of times. I wear a helmet when teaching unless I'm > standing in the middle of the arena -- often I'm walking near the horse > or longing, and not only think it's a safe thing to do but a very good > excample to all my students, who range in age from just 6 to 60 at the > moment. > Emily, flat haired today and proud of it! > :-) > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:45 PM 6/27/2007, you wrote: This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is." Back when I was a 4H Leader I was asked a lot of questions about helmets by parents & kids too. Mostly it was which one should I buy? How much do I need to spend on one? I always gave them the same line the guy at the snowmobile shop gave me when I was buying a helmet back in the 70's. I had asked him which helmet I should buy from a whole rack full of them. His reply was a classic I have never forgotten. He said "Well if you have a $10 head then buy the $10 helmet, if you have a $100 head then buy the $100 helmet". Of course those were the 1970's prices when a $100 actually bought a pretty nice helmet. I always told the 4h kids and the parents the same thing. You usually do get what you pay for in this case. Of course style & looks have some to do with riding helmets too. Best advise now days is to make sure it is ASTM certified. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Since we are on the subject of helmets, which ones do you like or dislike? I need to get one and don't want to pay a ton. Will bicycle helmets suffice or are "equine" helmets more durable? It is hot where I live so ventilation is important to me. Thanks in advance for your opinions. Bonnie MacCurdy Visalia, CA---HOT - Original Message - From: "Emily Wigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Helmets This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is." Suffice it to say that we simply wear helmets, in and out of the saddle (and cart., although I rarely drive). I always wear one grooming my tall warmbloods because I've been clocked in the side of the head by tall youngsters a couple of times. I wear a helmet when teaching unless I'm standing in the middle of the arena -- often I'm walking near the horse or longing, and not only think it's a safe thing to do but a very good excample to all my students, who range in age from just 6 to 60 at the moment. Emily, flat haired today and proud of it! :-) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK, so I have a solution. Motorcycle helmet, or horse helmet. I just have my wife shave my head with the clippers, about 1/4 inch long, and no more helmet hair. Plus, when you don't get around to washing it for a few days, like on a backpack trip, it still looks pretty good. I guess I have seen a few women who look pretty good with short hair, some it doesn't do much for though. Maybe a pony tail for them. You could always shave it off and sell it for wig material to the cancer patients, buy a halter or something with the proceeds. My wife wears helmet also even when ground training. I wear one when trimming hoves, ground work, and riding. Mark Skeels -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emily Wigley Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:45 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Helmets Emily, flat haired today and proud of it! :-) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is." Suffice it to say that we simply wear helmets, in and out of the saddle (and cart., although I rarely drive). I always wear one grooming my tall warmbloods because I've been clocked in the side of the head by tall youngsters a couple of times. I wear a helmet when teaching unless I'm standing in the middle of the arena -- often I'm walking near the horse or longing, and not only think it's a safe thing to do but a very good excample to all my students, who range in age from just 6 to 60 at the moment. Emily, flat haired today and proud of it! :-) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: "Shannon Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I always tell my students that the people that don't wear helmets while riding, don't have any brains to protect. ;) Have a GREAT Fjord summer Shannon www.ChehalemMountainRanch.com Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/17/2002 6:56:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My daughter has gone to Germany to be a foreign exchange student for a > semester. She is taking riding lessons while there. It was her biggest hope > was that she would get a Fjord for her lesson horse. However, she complains > that all they have are Hanoverians!! She has requested that I send her > helmet. (We didn't pack it with the 2 bag/70lb limit.) She said that the > stable doesn't have good helmets, doesn't overly encourage them, nor fits > them properly. Gee. how to know ya raised her right! > LOL, what a good girl! I do like Hanoverians though. When Juniper was too pregnant to trailer for lessons, my instructor let me ride her Hanoverian. What a tall drink of water! But very gentle, if I found his gaits a bit odd. :) Pamela
Re: Helmets.....you bet. resent in plain text....
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well Fred you are a living, (thank God) example of what we are talking about. Mend quickly. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/14/2002 6:20:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bent, but mending. > > > > Fred > Oh Fred, I'm sorry you got hurt. But very glad you were indeed wearing your helmet. Now you need to get a new one to replace this one, I'm certain you know. Hope you mend swiftly. Pamela
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robyn, just a further note on the rubber band safety stirrups. They were no problem when riding or dismounting etc for me. One day, however, I was going at a fast trot in my field when my Howdy tripped and went down on his knees. This threw me forward onto his neck and it frightened him and he took off at a furious gallop. I was riding Indian style and knew I could not hang on. I held onto the reins as I dropped off (father was a cavalry man) and it jerked me around and I hit the ground, body first then head with a crunch of my helmet and I remember thinking that was a mighty crunch! Interestingly after I collected my senses and my body seemed alright, I found my short boots imbedded in my wire fence, about three-four feet from where I landed. Took some pulling to get them loose. Have never been able to figure out if they were catapulted by the pull of the stirrups or if it happened when I was jerked around by the reins. Hate to think of what would have happened if I had regular stirrups. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/14/2002 4:58:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > One other thing - safety stirrups - in the past we used peacock stirrups > (the ones with the rubber band on one side) they work great as far as not > letting the foot get stuck but I had other problems with them. My cancer > survivor clients sometimes have iv lines for their meds and they could get > hooked on the open side, my heavy clients would actually bend them when > posting or doing two point or kids clothes would get hooked. Two years ago > we > found the KwikOut stirrups which look like regular stirrups but the side > flips open if you get stuck. Work great. Those are what my riding instructor uses. I love them! And am hoping I find a set in my Christmas stocking this year! They are a little spendy, but are a great investment. I think they'd be allowed in shows also, while the peacocks aren't. Pamela
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I totally agree with you Pam. I know the revelation on helmets came to me when my 5 year old niece went off her event pony and hit the ring fence post. There was a horrible crack when helmet met post and I later took the helmet to the hospital where they xrayed it and showed how badly it had broken. Other than a headache my niece was fine, we just needed to purchase a new helmet for her. One other thing - safety stirrups - in the past we used peacock stirrups (the ones with the rubber band on one side) they work great as far as not letting the foot get stuck but I had other problems with them. My cancer survivor clients sometimes have iv lines for their meds and they could get hooked on the open side, my heavy clients would actually bend them when posting or doing two point or kids clothes would get hooked. Two years ago we found the KwikOut stirrups which look like regular stirrups but the side flips open if you get stuck. Work great. Robyn in MD
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/13/2002 8:42:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I endorse helmets every time, every event. There's a national law for > wearing seatbelts. I am with you. I always wear a helmet. All it takes is one time and I don't care how many years I have ridden without one and haven't gotten hurt, - it still only takes one time. My husband's niece died a few years ago fallling off a horse and she trained horses. She fell on her head and her 10 year old daughter and little baby boy were there and saw it happen. She died instantly. It was just awful. And she did NOT have a helmet on. What a tragedy. She was only 28 years old and a beautiful young woman. Really sad. Rondi Tyler. So. Calif.
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This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thank you catherine, i wear it all the time and now in turlock. can't wait!! have been starting to practice some of the "events" with quinn. shh!!! don't want to pre-clue the competition. yeah, right!! ;~) denise - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > No way would you ever get points off for wearing a helmet at any show I > manage, judge or work at. I would walk out on the show before I would put up > with that...
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This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol-- Wednesday, September 27, 2000, you wrote: > Not to sound morbid, but I can't think of a better way to go than > when I am riding my horse. I do not wear a helmet and never plan to. I have heard the argument from friends who refuse to wear a helmet that they too can think of no better way to die than riding. That is certainly a great romantic picture. However it doesn't take into account the better probability of not dying, but ending up in a permanent vegetative state, or at least robbed of so much mental capacity that they will never ride again except in therapeutic programs. Considering that modern helmets are more comfortable to wear than baseball caps and take two seconds to put on, it's just not worth the risk. I for one do not want to spend the rest of my days drooling in the corner of some VA ward. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA A canter is the cure for every evil. --Benjamin Disraeli(1804-1881)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/27/00 7:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a law that EVERONE under the age of 18 must wear an ASTM-SEI appoved helmet when mounted. Many other states are following this upcoming year with the same legislation. >> I was told that it was anyone under 14 who had to wear a helmet. This affects my pony party affairs. Which age is it? Merek
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This message is from: "Denise's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear anneli, do you mean like a bullet proof vest or the type of vests the bull riders wear? the soldiers call them flak jackets. also kevlar jackets. (made out of kevlar) denise - Original Message - From: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:22 AM Subject: Helmets > This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I always wear a helmet and I actually feel 'naked' without it. In the last year or so, I've actually been thinking of buying one of the 'waistcoats' (don't know the English name) that eventers use. There has been some really bad accidents in the neigbourhod with injuries that COULD have been much less serious if the riders would have had one waistcoat on. A friend of mine bought one years ago and she says that she got used to it very fast and now she feels that something's really missing when she doesn't wear it. > > Does anyone have experience from the waistcoats? (And what are they called in English:o) > > Regards > > Anneli > * > > Anneli Sundkvist > Department of Archaeology & Ancient History > Uppsala University > St. Eriks Torg 5 > S-753 10 Uppsala > Sweden > Phone: +46-18-4712082 (dept.) +46-18-553627 (home) > >
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This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There was a story/article written by a mom who's young daughter was killed at one of the saddle seat shows. Was very sad, they sold all of their horses, even though they'd always been a part of their lives. This child was on a very trustworthy, dependable horse but he spooked at something and flipped over. Its not worth it. The mom was hoping this story would encourage the wearing of helmets. I was already convinced years ago. I even drive a small pony and where my helmet. I've fallen from a horse that was just walking and tripped, I always land on either my head or my butt. Not much I can do about the butt I guess but the helmets are a blessing. I would vote "for" a mandantory rule that all children wear helmets, I think its a good thing, like seat belts, they save lives. Debby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 9/27/00 11:24:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> > > I was told that it was anyone under 14 who had to wear a helmet. This > > affects my pony party affairs. Which age is it? Merek > > > The article I read said age 18. It affects alot of people, I know kids who > show saddle seat that are upset as they usually wear bowler caps. > > Kate in CT > mom to Baldur
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This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol, I have met many people who feel as you do about not wearing helmets and put forth the very same argument, I refute this argument by pointing out the many cases of people who have head injuries and don't die but become vegetables or have painful and slow recovery periods, becoming serious burdens to their unfortunate relatives and friends who love them and wish the loved one intelligently present and participating in their lives. Four years ago, I fell hard enough from my horse (at a walk) to break my collarbone and two ribs. When I felt my helmet compress as I hit the ground, all I could think of was how grateful I was that I had that helmet on. I didn't even realize about my other injuries for several minutes. I know that if I had not had my helmet on that day, I would have sustained serious, if not fatal, head injuries. BTW, I forgot to put my helmet on when I got on the horse, but Steve reminded me of it and went and got it for me. I was back at work in a week and driving my horse in two weeks. I showed at Blue Earth that year in a neck collar. So my point really is, that one should think about the other people in your life , as well as the quality of your own existence, before you make a decision never to wear a helmet. Cynthia Madden email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:36 AM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/27/00 7:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a law that EVERONE under the age of 18 must wear an ASTM-SEI appoved helmet when mounted. Many other states are following this upcoming year with the same legislation. >> I was told that it was anyone under 14 who had to wear a helmet. This affects my pony party affairs. Which age is it? Merek I have also heard 14 not 18 but I would make sure before I would put a 15 year old on one without one I guess. Not sure who would have that information but I would check it out first if it was me. You might give your local Cooperative Extension office a call they should know.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/27/00 11:24:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> > I was told that it was anyone under 14 who had to wear a helmet. This > affects my pony party affairs. Which age is it? Merek > The article I read said age 18. It affects alot of people, I know kids who show saddle seat that are upset as they usually wear bowler caps. Kate in CT mom to Baldur
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The waistcoats are called vests or body armor here. There has been some contrversy about them. Pony Club was going to require them for eventing, but they are/were expensive and at the time of discussion were not ASTM-SEI approved. Alot of the kids ride with them now, but they are still optional. As for helmets, a helmet is not protective unless it is ASTM-SEI approved and is LESS than 5 years old. The foam inside breaks down and is no longer strong enough to protect at impact. I get alot of adults that come to me for lessons that are wearing the old style helmets or even helmets without chinstraps. They might as well be riding with nothing on their heads! I cringe when I see them bring their kids to lessons with the old helmets saying that they would prefer NOT to buy a new helmetsaying that they are too expensive. It's their kids head and life! Helmets are just my pet peeve, it's all common sense. There is a fantastic video put out by Pony Club called "Every time, Every ride". It is very graphic, but does get it's point across about the importance of wearing a proper helmet. Kate Grad B from Mystic ARIA certified instructor Fjord Fan
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a law that EVERONE under the age of 18 must wear an ASTM-SEI appoved helmet when mounted. Many other states are following this upcoming year with the same legislation. Kate in CT mom to Baldur
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary, Thanks for sharing your story. I wear my helmet everytime I drive and ride outside the arena but I have to admit, I don't wear it in the arena where I have a greater comfort level. All our accidents have been outside but the best would be to wear it all the time as you suggest. I hope you took advantage of the replacement program if you have a Troxel helmet. I got a crack in the exterior of one of mine and for $10 (I think), they replaced it with a new one. Sure is cheaper than buying a new one. Susan in MN
Re: helmets - so glad you are OK!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary - I'm SO glad you are ok! Thanks for the helmet reminder. Love ya! Ann
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This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> here's another helmet story. i wear mine all the time now. i was working quinn in the round pen at a trot doing figure eights, with quick turns to the left and right at the wall. he has a tendency toward laziness on turns and just in general so i was'nt expecting this. the sand was wet from rainy weather and he slipped, sped up, but i expected him to go the other way, so i went in the opposite direction, hitting my noggin on the lower pipe. whew!!! i saw stars and little birds swirling over my head and had a dull ache on that side. my helmet was ok but the pipe had a large skid mark from the helmet. i laid there in the sand for a couple of minutes for my head to clear. WEAR THOSE HELMETS!! denise, quinn and knute
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whew, Mary, that was way too close and totally unpredictable. I have noted young horses run to you while older ones try to avoid you and especially not to step on you as it is not "firm" footing. Yet when they start that uncontrolled run they do not care where they end up. Charley came up from the field one night like a freight train after hearing a bird fall out of the tree He flew through a metal gate, across through the graduated wire fencing and posts and would have gone through a second fence but there was light shining on it. I have been knocked ten or fifteen feet when big Charley was young. Of course on more than one occasion I would stand in front of him to try and stop him. Three times was enough! He liked to dart out gates. Glad you are all right but watch your eye pupils for a difference as a sign of concussion. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was also very saddened to read this post regarding your daughter. I think Pamela's reply says it all ">I'm so sorry :( I think your post says it all, and I'll think of your daughter tomorrow as I put on my helmet for my morning ride."< > >Pamela Reena -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Helmets >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 11/19/98 14:25:45 Pacific Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< My daughter, Peggy-Lynne, died at age 26 of a head injury after 11 years > of suffering. WEAR HELMETS. >> > >I'm so sorry :( I think your post says it all, and I'll think of your >daughter tomorrow as I put on my helmet for my morning ride. > >Pamela >
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/19/98 14:25:45 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << My daughter, Peggy-Lynne, died at age 26 of a head injury after 11 years of suffering. WEAR HELMETS. >> I'm so sorry :( I think your post says it all, and I'll think of your daughter tomorrow as I put on my helmet for my morning ride. Pamela
Re: Helmets - a personal story
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/19/98 7:27:31 Pacific Standard Time, Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If an adult conciously chooses not to wear a helmet, that's their lookout. But what I have a real problem with are those irresponsible adults who don't make children wear helmets. It should not be a choice for children - ever! >> Yep. Here's another story. This happened when we lived in New Mexico, about 100 yards from the Rio Grande. I was looking out my front window one day and I saw a man (helmetless, that's okay I guess) riding by, looking like he thought he was macho. Behind him was his child. Scared to death. All hunched over, grabbing the horn, with no helmet on. Uh oh. Macho man is yelling for the kid to catch up. Poor kid needed instruction, not to be yelled at. Next thing I see, Mr. Macho has urged his horse into a full gallop (the trail also had various rodent holes). The child's horse, seeing his companion leave at a full gallop decided he didn't want to be left behind. Next thing I see is the poor child in the ditch, crying. Dad walked the horse back to him, yelled at him, and made him walk the horse back home. The boy was probably terrified of getting back on the horse. It could have been worse. The child wasn't injured, but I bet he never wants to get near another horse as long as he lives. Pamela
