Re: Getting horses to drink in cold weather
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com I have no trouble getting horses to drink even when it is -40 here: I have an insulated water tank with a sinking heater which is thermostat controlled. so water is never really cold. They drink fine, even more when they are getting extra hay in the very cold weather Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where it was a warm +20 today! We usually don't have this problem where I live but I take something we do in very hot weather and also use it when the weather is cold. I know some people are going to laugh and think we are crazy (which is probably not far from the truth) but in my part of Florida, we give our horses Gatorade in the hot weather after work when they have sweated a lot. I add electrolytes to it because the amount of Gatorade we give is not really for electrolyte replacement. After work, we give them an 8 quart bucket with 2 or 3 scoops of the powder. I use the lemon-lime, orange or blue so when they splash it on you, your clothes don't get stained. In the winter, if it gets below 50 at night which is cold for us, they really slow down their drinking so I throw a couple scoops in one of their water buckets at night and the bucket is empty in the morning. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Getting horses to drink in cold weather
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com We usually don't have this problem where I live but I take something we do in very hot weather and also use it when the weather is cold. I know some people are going to laugh and think we are crazy (which is probably not far from the truth) but in my part of Florida, we give our horses Gatorade in the hot weather after work when they have sweated a lot. I add electrolytes to it because the amount of Gatorade we give is not really for electrolyte replacement. After work, we give them an 8 quart bucket with 2 or 3 scoops of the powder. I use the lemon-lime, orange or blue so when they splash it on you, your clothes don't get stained. In the winter, if it gets below 50 at night which is cold for us, they really slow down their drinking so I throw a couple scoops in one of their water buckets at night and the bucket is empty in the morning. This also works if you want them to drink on the trailer or at a show. Any drink powder can be used, in fact, I have used crystal light for my warmblood that has had laminitis in the past. The downside is that some of them like it so much that they become almost crazed when they smell it or think you are making a bucket or giving some to another horse so the rule here is that they don't get it until they are rinsed or sponged and ready to be turned out and they have to stand politely without pawing or being rude in the crossties. Robin in chilly, windy SW Florida where it hasn't gotten out of the mid 60's for the past couple days and it is going to get in 30s tonight. Brrr--I know we're a bunch of wimps. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Weather
This message is from: Caroline Warren caroline.war...@att.net I got cold just reading Phil's post. Here in northern California we have unseasonably high temps for this time of year--high 60's and next week they're forecasting 70s! This isn't good news, as we're having a severe draught and one reservoir is only 18% of normal. We usually have green spring grass in November but we barely have a sprig in January. Irrigation is being shut off and very little water has not been sent to the Central Valley for overwintering wild fowl in rice fields. My fjord mare has her usual fluffy winter coat but I have to be careful she doesn't overheat when I'm driving her. At night it's down to 35 degrees so I don't want to clip her beautiful coat off. Oh, for the good old days of pouring rain and mud! I think I'd rather have our weather than Phil's, though--I've lived in the snow country and it is certainly beautiful but 40 below is a bit much! Caroline Warren Chico, CA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Yes! It is riding weather
This message is from: Jo Wilgus rjrfj...@verizon.net Hello all. Regn and I have been riding, finally. The heat is on in the afternoon but by 5 it cools down. Yesterday I purchased 4 leg bands from a gal ,they are reflective. She custom makes them. I have used others but was not happy with them. These have an additional safety strap. Richard asked me yesterday what I wanted for Christmas, today I know my answer...an arena. It would increase our property value right? Make it a great day. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Ca. Weather
This message is from: jerrell friz jf...@com-pair.net Hi Folks Hope you will excuse the following post, just could not resist telling you about our weather.[Believe me I am not bragging, so don't read that into this] 70F, today, more for the next few days. Will have to water my Winter garden tomorrow. Now for the bad news, we have less than 10 inches of rain this season. Water rationing, this Summer, high hay, and food prices. I see many ads in the paper for people trying to give their animals away. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. Ride and Drive your horses barrel to get the correct timing In God We Trust Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: weather
This message is from: crystal...@aol.com In a message dated 1/9/09 11:39:18 AM, owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes: Jean in frigid Fairbanks, Alaska, on the 12th day of -40 and below! but it will warm up over the weekend: Gonna be zero or above next week! Shirt sleeve weather! thanks a lot, jean. our weather guessers always tell us when it's cold in alaska, we can look for it next...and they are talking below zero most of next week. sigh. laurie ** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
cold weather and crazy horse theif
This message is from: ewig...@mindspring.com Corrine, you are NOT a wimp! In your neck of the woods you have much more moisture in your air and I would be freezing to death there at those temps! No, she's a wimp! You know I'm kidding, right Corinne?!!! :-) :-) :-) It's really dry in the Seattle area with these cold temps, and the snow is so fluffy you can't make snowballs. Not our typical wet white stuff (or wet liquid stuff, which I'm really missing!). It's weird having such cold temps, isn't it, Corinne? My horses seem to be doing ok, and since the paddocks are frozen and I can't clean them daily, it's good that I'm getting some exercise carrying water to the nine equines in residence. Everything is rock hard and bumps are hiding under the pretty snow - not even good for a cold weather ride! Zany! As for the horse thief, check the California laws for livestock rustling; it may still be on the books as it is in some places. It's different from (and more serious than) simple theft (non-animals). Just a thought. Quick perimeter of electric fence (be sure it's posted as hot on the fence line) may deter this crazy human. She sounds awful, and sad and in need of mental health help too. If your neighbors who share the easement want to press trespassing charges, the more the merrier may help convince the local law enforcement that this is a serious, dangerous situation. Restraining order? I sound crazy, I know, but this situation calls for it, IMHO. Take care, Emily Fish Bowl Farm, Vashon Island, Wa, www.FishBowlFarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Cowgirl inspiration warm weather gear
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beth, thanks for posting this...Yes, it was very inspirational, AND proof beyond a doubt that REAL cowgirls have assistants to zip up their chaps! ( I am half her age and I can't seem to zip my chaps w/o getting cramps...sad! Send in the assistants, please!!) My vote for comfy riding pants for warm weather are Irideon riding pants. i am a fan of their bootleg pants. I also like to wear them under chaps to show in instead of wranglers. Much more comfy. When I show I have some old Eurostar breeches that have a 2 sided fabric that is very cool and comfy. Considering what the price of show breeches are these days, needless to say I take very good care of them. But to be honest, when it gets over 90, I chicken out and don't ride unless its in a covered arena or a creek! I am bowing out of showing tomorrow. 99 predicted. I think I'll stay home and have pony beauty day: give the ponies baths and trims in the shade, not too far from the hammock ;~)) Karen in Madras, where summer has indeed arrived... Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:04:48 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Cowgirl inspiration This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] For all of you girls out there, check this out. She's not riding Fjords, but is quite an inspiration anyway. American Cowgirl http://www.americancowgirl.com/film.htm Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Riding pants for extreme hot weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like the Enduracool tights from _www.tropicalrider.com_ (http://www.tropicalrider.com) . They do a great job of wicking away moisture, and we certainly ride in some hot weather (although not for long periods of time!) I particularly like the deerskin patches, although I have several with the clarino as well. Great company to work with. Kate with Joe and Della (who both point out that the full seat breeches do NOT actually make me a better rider) ** In a message dated 6/27/2008 2:36:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering if you had any advice about riding pants for hot hot weather. **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:warm weather pants
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i second the opinion of the boink's tights. they make a collection called coolest boinks and they work really well, i have several pair. the come in both knee patch and full seat, and plus sizes in some. i like them a lot. i think their web address i boinkcatalog.com. laurie, and oz, who doesn't care what i wear as long as i feed him when i am done ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Riding pants for extreme hot weather
This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again, I was wondering if you had any advice about riding pants for hot hot weather. I just cannot picture myself with thick tight sythetic riding pants in super hot weather and was looking for a piece of advice. Right now, I use loose cotton cargo pants but they have the seam under my leg, I am a bit worried if I go out for several days... Thanks alot ! Yasmine Djabri (Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Riding pants for extreme hot weather
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] In southwest florida, we have what would be considered extremely hot, humid weather from May through October with daily high temps in the 90s and high humidity. I have found the Boink tights to be good as far as comfort and coolness but they do shrink (especially if they accidentally get in the dryer) and fade somewhat. They wear for a long time though and if you are not concerned about looking like a diva, I like them.I wear them every day for schooling but if you are going to a clinic, you can only wear a relatively new pair. I have a pair of the Kerritts low-rise full seats that are made out of some kind of very thin synthetic stuff that my farrier's wife who owns a tack shop convinced me to buy and I don't like them. They are thin and will dry quickly but the seat gets so sticky that I felt like I couldn't move in the saddle and the seat material literally feels like a hot sensation on your skin when you start sweating in them which you do as soon as you walk outside in the summer down here. Hope that helps. Robin in sw fl where there was a drought but now it is raining every day --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Riding pants for extreme hot weather To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 2:12 PM This message is from: Nature Friends Outdoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again, I was wondering if you had any advice about riding pants for hot hot weather. (Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Riding pants for extreme hot weather
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope someone sends you info on great riding pants, cuz I want some too! I have a pair of Smooth Stride Trail Riders Ultra. They are very flattering, but they claim to be a fabric that wicks away moisture but they don't! When I ride in them in hot and humid Texas, I feel like my lower body is in a steam bath. I bought a pair of coton and lycra workout leggings--like the kind we all used in the late 1980's for Aerobics class(!) at the Good Will. They cost me 6 bucks and were the best riding pants I had. But my Fjord was trying to avoid some mud and ran me into a branch and they were torn to shreds! So now I gota go to the Good will again, unless y'all can suggest cool riding pants! Jen On 6/27/08, Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if you had any advice about riding pants for hot hot weather. (Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Cold weather
This message is from: Susan Cargill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeanne - that's just not fair - I'm further south than you are in Alaska. They are promising warmer weather next week even in the 40's. The fjords are telling me that spring is coming because there are piles of hair everywhere. Susan - Longtheway Farm, Wisconsin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Cold weather gear
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dover saddlery is having a great sale on their winter riding stuff - tons of riding pants! They have the windpro breeches and some pants that fit over your breeches or jeans (like snow pants). I just got their sale catalog and there are more choices in there than what they have on their website, or at least they're easier to find... I have some Kerrits windpro breeches that I use in wet, cold weather. I wear silk long johns under them and my legs stay warm and dry. I vowed I would never trail ride in the winter in jeans again after getting caught in the rain on a November ride. It seemed like I'd never so cold, I could hardly move my legs because the denim was so wet and heavy that the material stuck to my skin - and I could hardly get the darn things off! On Jan 11, 2008 2:38 PM, Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers! I want to thank everyone who responded privately and on the list to my request for suggested cold weather gear. Quite a few people have commonly recommended specific brands or products that I will particularly look into. Love the woolies idea butout of my price range...I'm sure they would do an excellent job though. Thanks again everyone, and warm riding to you all! -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Cold weather gear
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Lola for the tip on the Dover Saddlery sale! Much appreciated! Jen On 1/12/08, Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dover saddlery is having a great sale on their winter riding stuff - tons of riding pants! They have the windpro breeches and some pants that fit over your breeches or jeans (like snow pants). I just got their sale catalog and there are more choices in there than what they have on their website, or at least they're easier to find... I have some Kerrits windpro breeches that I use in wet, cold weather. I wear silk long johns under them and my legs stay warm and dry. I vowed I would never trail ride in the winter in jeans again after getting caught in the rain on a November ride. It seemed like I'd never so cold, I could hardly move my legs because the denim was so wet and heavy that the material stuck to my skin - and I could hardly get the darn things off! On Jan 11, 2008 2:38 PM, Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers! I want to thank everyone who responded privately and on the list to my request for suggested cold weather gear. Quite a few people have commonly recommended specific brands or products that I will particularly look into. Love the woolies idea butout of my price range...I'm sure they would do an excellent job though. Thanks again everyone, and warm riding to you all! -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
rain pants etc for wet and/or cold weather
This message is from: safreivald [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rain pants are perfect, except slippery. Maybe use that rubbery drawer liner stuffwrap it around the saddle fenders, or put over the seat somehow...to create a bit of grip. Not elegant, but maybe? Riding in Scotland a few years ago the rain pants were a necessity. I automatically put my suede half chaps (the cheapest available at State Line Tack) OVER the rain pants. Worked like a charm and gave me the grip I needed. Our guide took one look and pulled his half-chaps from under to over his rain pants as well, with a big grin don't know why I didn't think of this years ago, he said. they are also washable in cold water (the half-chaps) and while they dry stiff, supple up nicely with use. Sue F. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Cold weather gear
This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers! I want to thank everyone who responded privately and on the list to my request for suggested cold weather gear. Quite a few people have commonly recommended specific brands or products that I will particularly look into. Love the woolies idea butout of my price range...I'm sure they would do an excellent job though. Thanks again everyone, and warm riding to you all! -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Cold weather gear
This message is from: jen frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lois Anne, would you be willing to make a list of all the cold weather riding breeches reccomendations that people have sent you (since we all missed the recs that were sent to you off list) and their websites? Thanks! Jen On 1/11/08, Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers! I want to thank everyone who responded privately and on the list to my request for suggested cold weather gear. Quite a few people have commonly recommended specific brands or products that I will particularly look into. Love the woolies idea butout of my price range...I'm sure they would do an excellent job though. Thanks again everyone, and warm riding to you all! -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
weather related in NE
This message is from: sam Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] As most of you know the latest storm brought the northeast a significant amount of snow and rain. Due to fast accumulation and switch to rain, My modest38 x 72 riding/training structure collapsed on Sun shortly after the change over to rain. We had no chance to clear it off in time. No one was injured, Thank goodness I had a concerns about a dying pine tree I felt was too close for comfort and chose not to house the few horses I usually put under the cover -all during inclement weather. I had also chose not to continue the clean up of the snow just inside it or on it from the inside not too long before it came down. For that I am eternally grateful. Compared others my loss seems relatively small and again I am so very gratefull for no loss of life or limb. My heart is with those even more diffuclties and weather related issues. I am over the shock of the total loss (no insurance on the structure) the loss of revenue, clean up costs and disbelief that I have to start over. Those of you that know me, know I have 90% therapeutic and entry level clients. Not all of them can endure the elements and the clean dry peaceful environment was key to building up that client base. I have to reduce the horses to a number I can feed and care for properly over the winter with the cash flow from the few clients that will be able to ride in the snow and icy conditions. I have a few nice ponies (3-4) for sale or lease, all are Fjords and quite sweet. Each one is familiar with PNH and has had a lot of good thoughtful handling. I am quite willing to work out free leases or let them go quite inexpensively to the right situations. Anyone interested can e-mail me for more details and pictures. I am also looking for thoughts and ideas on fund raising to replace with another modest indoor. We are not a non profit but service local ones for kids and assisted living adults. Thank you all for your support and help. Sam Stanley Barefoot Farm Amesbury Ma - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
weather related in NE
This message is from: sam Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] As most of you know the latest storm brought the northeast a significant amount of snow and rain. Due to fast accumulation and switch to rain, My modest38 x 72 riding/training structure collapsed on Sun shortly after the change over to rain. We had no chance to clear it off in time. No one was injured, Thank goodness I had a concerns about a dying pine tree I felt was too close for comfort and chose not to house the few horses I usually put under the cover -all during inclement weather. I had also chose not to continue the clean up of the snow just inside it or on it from the inside not too long before it came down. For that I am eternally grateful. Compared others my loss seems relatively small and again I am so very gratefull for no loss of life or limb. My heart is with those even more diffuclties and weather related issues. I am over the shock of the total loss (no insurance on the structure) the loss of revenue, clean up costs and disbelief that I have to start over. Those of you that know me, know I have 90% therapeutic and entry level clients. Not all of them can endure the elements and the clean dry peaceful environment was key to building up that client base. I have to reduce the horses to a number I can feed and care for properly over the winter with the cash flow from the few clients that will be able to ride in the snow and icy conditions. I have a few nice ponies (3-4) for sale or lease, all are Fjords and quite sweet. Each one is familiar with PNH and has had a lot of good thoughtful handling. I am quite willing to work out free leases or let them go quite inexpensively to the right situations. Anyone interested can e-mail me for more details and pictures. I am also looking for thoughts and ideas on fund raising to replace with another modest indoor. We are not a non profit but service local ones for kids and assisted living adults. Thank you all for your support and help. Sam Stanley Barefoot Farm Amesbury Ma - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Bad weather
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda, Thank you for your remarks about our Hurricane. It was the worst I have ever endured at 82. I envy your ability to just take off and go wherever!! Never made it to East Germany when I lived in Stuttgart after the war. It was not a place we wanted to see. The destruction in West Germany was bad enough. Have one old friend left in Babenhausen bei Ulm and she is 88 and not doing well. Was going to visit this summer but was not doing too well myself. Great now despite a fall during the storm. Hope you have friends to visit during the Holidays. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Weather related
This message is from: Susan Cargill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was amazed when reading the post about the hurricane in Oregon and Washington. Living in the Midwest and rural Wisconsin I must have missed the news or amazingly it never reached our press. But ice storms are something I've experienced. Where we live in northern Wisconsin we mainly get snow, but where I grew up in Southern Minnesota ice storms happened every year. Some worse than others. While I believe in global warming, weather moves in cycles - this year we appear to be in a snow cycle.. yeah Happy Holidays to all from everyone at Longtheway Farm in Birchwood, WI Susan The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
weather
This message is from: Janet [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Jean said, the weather is changing. I'm surprised we haven't had any reports from you folks in the Midwest and NE. Probably because getting hammered with snow and ice is normal for us. I won't forget the Holloween Blizzard of 1991...3 feet of snow and below zero temps on Oct 31. Haven't heard much about global warming recently from certain MN newsanchors. Its a hard sell in MN right now. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Bad weather
This message is from: Linda Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] The weather has been bad all over the US this year from the fires in So. CA to the ice storm in the Midwest, the snow storm in the NE and the high winds and storm in the Pacific NW. As Jean said, the weather is changing. I'm surprised we haven't had any reports from you folks in the Midwest and NE. Jean, I'm glad to hear you weren't injured and didn't have any significant damage, but 7 days without electricity is hardship duty. I hope you were able to keep warm. Gail, I hope you can get the problems solved with your house and was sorry to hear about the flood you had. Merry Christmas, God Jul and happy holidays to everyone and your fuzzy family members and best wishes for a wonderful holiday season from cold, but dry east Germany. Linda, Klein Max the German farm tiger, HM Queen Sonja the other one (self-crowned, formerly an asylum seeker), Grau Tiger the resident terrorist, Metro the resident Turk and Minke the tiny black panther from Guben http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Bad weather
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:19 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: This message is from: Linda Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] The weather has been bad all over the US this year from the fires in So. CA to the ice storm in the Midwest, the snow storm in the NE and the high winds and storm in the Pacific NW. As Jean said, the weather is changing. I'm surprised we haven't had any reports from you folks in the Midwest and NE. The BIG storm that hit us was not all that BIG. I was watching the National news last night when they had a guy on in Rochester, NY (I am about 10 miles from Rochester). He was telling everyone about how bad it was he was standing in about 3 of snow. We probably had about 6 - 10 inches or so but that isn't much of a storm for us really. It is the first big one of the season I guess. Mike Jean, I'm glad to hear you weren't injured and didn't have any significant damage, but 7 days without electricity is hardship duty. I hope you were able to keep warm. Gail, I hope you can get the problems solved with your house and was sorry to hear about the flood you had. Merry Christmas, God Jul and happy holidays to everyone and your fuzzy family members and best wishes for a wonderful holiday season from cold, but dry east Germany. Linda, Klein Max the German farm tiger, HM Queen Sonja the other one (self-crowned, formerly an asylum seeker), Grau Tiger the resident terrorist, Metro the resident Turk and Minke the tiny black panther from Guben http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Bad weather
This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The same here in Maine... We had a little over a foot but not nearly as bad a storm as was predicted... at least not where I live in Maine. Lovely here today and roads all clear. Cold wind though!!! Happy Holidays to each and every one and may the new year be healthy and prosperous one. Beth We'll have a white Christmas in Maine this year!!:) This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:19 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: about 6 - 10 inches or so but that isn't much of a storm for us really. It is the first big one of the season I guess. Mike The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
trailering in hot weather...
This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great idea about the crushed ice...I'd heard of spraying with water, but the ice is definetly needed in these hot and humid days of Texas... The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Hot Weather Treats
This message is from: Kim Nord [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about watermelon? Horses even like the rind... Kim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Hot Weather Treats This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for a lower calorie, low sugar treat the ponies would like. Sure, we know they love carrots and applesbut We have worked our way through green beans, peas, cucumbers, and celery - and they have rejected them all!! Joe will snuffle up popcorn, but Della won't even take it in her mouth. So much for the myth that Fjords eat anything! Kate ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Hot Weather Treats
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for a lower calorie, low sugar treat the ponies would like. Sure, we know they love carrots and applesbut We have worked our way through green beans, peas, cucumbers, and celery - and they have rejected them all!! Joe will snuffle up popcorn, but Della won't even take it in her mouth. So much for the myth that Fjords eat anything! Kate ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hot weather treats
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, The weather folks are saying that we will be getting our first hot days next week (90+ hot for the NW). So I thought it might be time to share my hot weather treat story with the list. When it's hot we keep a container of Fjord bite size watermelon in the small refrigerator in the hay barn so that we can dole out sweet cold treats whenever we are heading out to the barn. Once last year when I was filling the container I cut more than the container would hold, no problem I just took the extra pieces out to the Fjords and as always they came right up for treats. I held out a handful for each and in unison their mouths opened and engulfed the sweet juicy watermelon. Before I could drop my hands they each again in unison did the most unfjord like thing I've ever seen them do they actually spit out food. Good fresh wholesome (love it yesterday) food. I though perhaps it had been to much at once so I retrieved two pieces from the ground and offered it again. they sniffed and walked off. The problem it was not cold! So now you all know that we have two vary spoiled Fjords. Barb Middleage spread, Eagle Creek, OR. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: weather woes
This message is from: Rose or Murph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin, you are funny freezing in the 50's. That is shorts weather for us in the pacific Northwest. Rosemary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Churchill Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:43 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: weather woes This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know you guys feel real sorry for me when I am complaining about freezing when the daytime high is 50 degrees. Us Florida people always make the excuse that it just feel much colder down here because of the wind. Last winter when I went to get some roofing material and it was one of the few days we had in the 50s, they told me I had to get there by noon because they would be quitting early due to the cold temps. You will be laughing in summer when you have great temps and we are down here flooded and suffocated getting carried off by mosquitos and no see-ums. Robin --- Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin, I will try to remember your hay difficulties the next time I'm slogging through snow or warming frozen toes! I just picked up twenty two 1500 pound bales @ $35 per bale ($46 per ton) of a very nice upland grass hay stored indoors. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: weather woes
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know you guys feel real sorry for me when I am complaining about freezing when the daytime high is 50 degrees. Us Florida people always make the excuse that it just feel much colder down here because of the wind. Last winter when I went to get some roofing material and it was one of the few days we had in the 50s, they told me I had to get there by noon because they would be quitting early due to the cold temps. You will be laughing in summer when you have great temps and we are down here flooded and suffocated getting carried off by mosquitos and no see-ums. Robin --- Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin, I will try to remember your hay difficulties the next time I'm slogging through snow or warming frozen toes! I just picked up twenty two 1500 pound bales @ $35 per bale ($46 per ton) of a very nice upland grass hay stored indoors. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
wet weather riding.
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to say that I ride in a lot of wet weather and like high boots and poncho. I find a lot of slickers drip down the front of the saddle and that a poncho will cover both the pommel and cantle. Thank you for this assessment. This is what I suspected. I suppose most of the slickers come from Australia, or arid cowboy country where it doesn't rain for hours and hours. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that with the shells on? If so, seems expensive to me. The whole seeds are a lot cheaper here in Alaska. The sunflower hearts shelled seeds cost about that tho. Maybe it is shelled, though you would think they would say that in the ad, and I don't think they did. Possibly just a high mail order price. So...I better call the feedstores and see if I can find them. GAil The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather
This message is from: kelly MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] I feed BOSS. All my horses have been on BOSS regularly since mid-summer. They've never looked better. Even in their winter coats they are sleek, soft and shiny. And they LOVE them. My Fjord gets a cup twice a day along with his tid-bit of feed. He is in good shape, but BOSS is also an excellent way to put some weight on. Kelly From: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:46:09 -0800 This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awhile back someone asked about carrot storage. I also purchase my carrots in 25# bags. They are about 25 cents a pound here. I usually grow my own, but did not this last year. I store mine in a plastic bag, and then keep the bag in a large cooler, along with my water bottles. In the Summer, I dump ice cubes in the cooler.. I use the carrots after training for stretching exercises. [ I don't think it is a good idea to give horses treats.[ Dogs different story.] I would not use newspapers due to the ink, which has LEAD in it ! I use the old formula 2# total food, for every 100# of weight. Adjust up or down. [example, a horse that weighs 1000# would eat 20# TOTAL. My fjord, and Lip., take about 17 #. My 1300# Warmblood takes about 28# I don't see any one feeding BOSS. [ Black Oil Sunflower Seeds] If is my understanding that they provide extra copper, not to mention the oil that is digestible in this form. Copper is needed for black skinned horses. Anyway, I have been using them for about 2 years. My horses have the best coats ever. I know people that have been using boss for 5 years. The down side is, they will gain weight. But, again, total, all food. So, you will have to cut back somewhere else.I feed 1 cup to my Fjord, and Lip., and 3 cups to the WB., once daily. Weather, seems to be normal this year. Co., is getting the snow that it normally should get, Ak., is cold, which is normal, and here ,well ,we are enjoying 70 degree days. I was able to bath my horses outside today. My round pen is dry, will have to water it tomorrow. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson,Ca The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it Albert Einstein For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] How much do you pay for your black oil sunflower seeds. I just found a place that will ship them for free for 30.00 for 20 lbs. Is that more or less than you pay? (I can probably find them at my feed store, but am lazy about shopping and will order if I can.) Gail I feed BOSS. All my horses have been on BOSS regularly since mid-summer. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are these the regular black oil sunflower seeds that I would buy for the birdfeeder? Do the horses eat the shells too?! Melinda On 1/10/07, kelly MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: kelly MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] I feed BOSS. All my horses have been on BOSS regularly since mid-summer. They've never looked better. Even in their winter coats they are sleek, soft and shiny. And they LOVE them. My Fjord getsa cup twice a day along with his tid-bit of feed. He is in good shape, but BOSS is also an excellent way to put some weight on. Kelly -- Coaching with Melinda Schumacher, MD Personal Empowerment through Creative Expression and Equine Experiential Learning You wander from room to room hunting for the diamond necklace that is already around your neck. ~Jalal-Uddin Rumi As she knotted the reins and took her stand, the horse's soul came into her hand, and up from the mouth that held the steel came an innermost word, half thought, half feel.~paraphrased, John Masefield Fly Without Wings www.flywithoutwings.net Gestalt Practitioner www.gestaltcleveland.org The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Carrot storage, BOSS, weather
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that with the shells on? If so, seems expensive to me. The whole seeds are a lot cheaper here in Alaska. The sunflower hearts shelled seeds cost about that tho. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where it is warming up and will be +15 to +20 tomorrow. we're sending that big mass of cold air down south! How much do you pay for your black oil sunflower seeds. I just found a place that will ship them for free for 30.00 for 20 lbs. Is that more or less than you pay? (I can probably find them at my feed store, but am lazy about shopping and will order if I can.) Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fairbanks weather
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it is cold this morning, -40 here at home and -45 in town. Fjords are doing fine, enjoying extra hay, all fluffed up and frosty. See what is looks like in downtown Fairbanks: http://arcticcam.com:16080/cam/ Here's some interesting information about Fairbanks weather and temperatures. The Interior, home of Fairbanks and Denali National Park, has some of the most extreme weather in the world with rapid temperature swings, thunderstorms with hail and lightning and snow in the summer. Winters are very long, lasting from late September to mid-April. They are very cold and dry, with temperatures sometimes dipping down to -65 °F (-53.9 °C). Usually the temperature is below zero Fahrenheit, almost for entire months. The coldest temperature ever recorded in Fairbanks was -66 °F (-54.4 °C) on January 14, 1934. The average January low is -19 °F (-28.3 °C) and the average January high is -2 °F (-18.8 °C). Winter snowfall averages around 67.40 inches per year. During the winter months, if the temperature drops below -20 °F (-28.9 °C), ice fog can occur. The summers are usually very warm, with temperatures often reaching into the 80s °F and sometimes reaching into the 90s °F. The average July low is 53 °F (11.6 °C) and the average July high is 72 °F (22.2 °C). The highest temperature ever recorded in Fairbanks was 99 °F (37.2 °C) on July 28, 1919. Thunderstorms with hail and lightning can occur in summer. August and September can be rainy, and snow often starts falling in September. The average precipitation is 10.34 inches per year. Fairbanks is known for its lingering summer days. The sun is up for 21 hours and 49 minutes on the 21st of June with 24 hours of usable daylight. Conversely, the sun is up for 3 hours and 42 minutes on the 21st of December with 6 hours and 33 minutes of usable daylight. Jean in Frosty Fairbanks, Alaska, -40 clear and sunny The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re weather during draft tests at Winona
This message is from: Beaver Dam Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- I have posted to the Digest two or three times since returning from the 25th, about how absolutely fabulous the show was. Well, from my point of view, it was. But I was inside most of the time and wasn't trying to do an Evaluation Draft Test in the coditions that prevailed. -- I think Margaret Bogie made an excellent point . . . . It wasn't a very fair setting to evaluate performance against a standard, particularly when the results go on the horse's record and affects the medallion of quality level. The evaluators themselves were upset with the conditions and wrote about the wind on their evaluation comments. ~~ The point here is that all the horses doing the draft test that day will have their performance record entered into the Record Book to be compared to other horses who've done the test under more favorable conditions. -- The whole point of the Evaluation performance testing is that the horse's results are judged against The Standard, and that everything else, as much as is possible, is a level playing field. --- If it were a question of choosing the horse that did the best test on that day, then that is a whole different ballgame. So, therefore, the fact that all the horses were working under the same conditions at Winona is not at all the point. What is the point is if all the horses at Winona were working under conditions as close as possible to horses doing that test at other Evaluations. -- As far as I know, no other Evaluation draft test has ever been done under such really adverse conditions. To make this fair, I suggest that owners be given the option of having their results made official or not. -- For those who choose not to have the results included in the Winona 2006 Evaluation, they would have the option of doing the test at a later date. I suuppose another option for the Evaluating Committee would be to note the awful conditions in the Record Book. -- There may be other and better options. Regards, Carol Rivoire The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Weather at 25th
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the point of view of a softie from CA, the weather was truly awful. High winds, and COLD. However it did change. I am not certain whether it moderated in the middle of some of the testing or not. Gail This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would have been an alternate plan? Did all the participants have to contend with the same weather? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: MWFHC winter meeting -- Watch the weather!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! It was +40 here yesterday, but below zero today! Horses are still shedding piles of hair. We have been spoiled this winter. Suzan, in cold Minnesota Every exit is an entry somewhere. â Tom Stoppard
hot weather trailering
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] along the lines of my newness and paranoia about doing right by my guys, i could use a few tips on hauling to blue earth. it's only 200 miles from my place, but it could very well be very hot. i have the world's smallest two horse trailer, at least for other breeds it would be a two horsewith oz we took out the divider and it becomes a semi-slant one fjord trailer. he fits, but it wouldn't hold two. i noticed when i brought him home from my instructor's on saturday, when it was hot (when hasn't it been lately), he was quite wet, and that was only 25 miles. i plan to leave early in the morning, getting there about noon or so. will he be ok for the trip without needing to stop and cool him off? i of course open all the windows, and take the back top panels off. maybe i am overly concerned since he seems to do ok standing in the sun all afternoon, even though he has shade.this is the guy who on the way home last year managed to unhook himself, turn around and stick his head out the back, presenting quite a surprise to the car behind us :) laurie and oz. who is happy riding as long as he has hay in front of him
Re: Weather/bloodlines
This message is from: Myriam/Ptite_marmotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Thank you for your answers. Your opinions are important for me because I hope to do a good job by our article about bloodlines and origins. I completely agree that both mare and stallion influenced their offspring.Unfortunately, It s more difficult to get some documents or books about old bloodlines by mares..I have found more databases about stallions bloodlines, and I continue my searches about mares lines. You are right Patti jo Walter, I m afraid of making mistakes on our article, it s hard for us who are a little 'new' in the fjord horse breeding to really know the lines , what's more there are a few documents about it here.But,we are very enjoyed by learning origins of fjord horse and I ve noted that many people ( breeders and owners) are interessed by this subject and want tn know more about it.I m talking about it with many breeders who live in my 'state'( I don t find the right english word) in France . By this article, we want to be objective and learn some knowledges who have almost disapared in my country.We will do our best! I will send you my article when it will be finished.If it would be good, I will tell about to write it on our fjord horse newspaper in France by the association ( I m member). Other subject: I have read your mails about winter, in France it s the same, we have a lot of snow where I live.My Fuego is the only fjord horse here and the only horse who can ride with me in this weather; he is less sensitive to the cold than me. I show you a photo: http://poneyfjord.nuxit.net/fuego/fuegov/dec0434.jpg We have make a short film of us in the snow: http://poneyfjord.nuxit.net/fuego/fuegov/galop.avi Escuse me for my poor english. Myriam France [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.poney-fjord.com --- Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] On another note I was ... talking with my appy breeder friend. ... he would go on to say, that stallion throws brains, that stallion throws performance, that stallion throws disposition,.. What do you think??? Patti jo I THINK this man throws confidence in his dominant masculinity (theory) =))) I agree with you that bloodlines are overall important too, but not necessarily a slam-dunk guarantee for total predictability. Each offspring of identical parents is uniquely different from another, same as humans, because the selection process is polygenic, and RANDOM besides! The stallion is no more important than the mare, except for her piddly mitochondria (one part in hundreds of thousands) ...it's a 50/50 combo! And it is only the combination of those TWO that make for the finished product ...not a single horse! When you look at a beautiful stallion you are seeing only HALF of the potential whole, and when you look at a handsome foal you are seeing TWO parents, (and each of them represent the many, many, genes in their innumerable ancestors.) However, choosing the best lines possible for both mates certainly heightens your chances of producing a good specimen... but that's called selective breeding which is purportedly the philosophy that has ruined many breeds. Maybe it's a more complex issue than we mortals can equate or specify? Ruthie, nw mt US Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: WI Weather/bloodlines
This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] On another note I was ... talking with my appy breeder friend. ... he would go on to say, that stallion throws brains, that stallion throws performance, that stallion throws disposition,.. What do you think??? Patti jo I THINK this man throws confidence in his dominant masculinity (theory) =))) I agree with you that bloodlines are overall important too, but not necessarily a slam-dunk guarantee for total predictability. Each offspring of identical parents is uniquely different from another, same as humans, because the selection process is polygenic, and RANDOM besides! The stallion is no more important than the mare, except for her piddly mitochondria (one part in hundreds of thousands) ...it's a 50/50 combo! And it is only the combination of those TWO that make for the finished product ...not a single horse! When you look at a beautiful stallion you are seeing only HALF of the potential whole, and when you look at a handsome foal you are seeing TWO parents, (and each of them represent the many, many, genes in their innumerable ancestors.) However, choosing the best lines possible for both mates certainly heightens your chances of producing a good specimen... but that's called selective breeding which is purportedly the philosophy that has ruined many breeds. Maybe it's a more complex issue than we mortals can equate or specify? Ruthie, nw mt US
Re: WI Weather/bloodlines
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally think it is a great idea. That article would be a keeper. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Dave and Patti Walter wrote: BUT it just got me thinking how it would be kind of neat to write an article but Fjord Stallions and just see how accurate it follows our breed too.
Re: WI Weather/bloodlines
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Patti; I was thinking just today. After I got done feeding our mares. How many of the foals we have had I can really see both parents in them. And feel the mares don't get enough credit. Sometimes I see more of the mares in them. Jim Sherette
Re: Cold weather and fjords
This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa...! you do have us beat... only 17 below this morning but too cold for the wind to blow anyhow. This is our coldest day so far this winter. (better than floods!) I love to watch the way the Fjords deliberately position themselves sideways to the first sunshine, soaking up the warm rays like big beige fuzzy sponges ...their eyes half-mast...you can imagine they say, Ooooh, that feels so good =))) cleaning cupboards Janne? I'm not that desperate yet HAH stay warm, Ruthie, nw mt US We had 36 below overnight, the high today is supposed to be 28 below. Fjords are all outside, including the young yearling colt. The wind chill will reach 50 - 60 below tonight. Fjords are just fine. They do have shelter from the winds, plus woods to the west and north. Eating lots of hay and getting a bit of hay bellies, but they have to have free choice during these cold winters for sure! Janne, in ND, indoors making cookies and cleaning cupboards.
Re: CA stress?/rope halters/weather report
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/9/2005 1:38:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too have RFD and have seen Clinton, Monty,Chris, John, Dennis et al. and yes, I do see horses that CA works with that do seem pretty stressed, or if not stressed, almost forced/mechanical in their actions, afraid to make a wrong move, as personally, I feel he drills too long; maybe he repeats repeats so his viewing audience can absorb it. *** That's what I think, Karen. These clinicians have to produce miraculous, consistent results on camera or in front of an audience. They also have to make sure the cues and responses are visible to your average clinic-observer. At first I hated CA, thought he was rough and pointless. The more I watched his programs, however, the more I picked up useful ideas. The nice thing about watching clinicians is that you can put your own spin on the exercises, take your time and do them in a way which is less stressful. Also, with positive reinforcement, you need wy less repetition. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA _www.Brigid.Clickryder.com_ (http://www.brigid.clickryder.com/)
Re: CA stress?/rope halters/weather report
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I too have RFD and have seen Clinton, Monty,Chris, John, Dennis et al. and yes, I do see horses that CA works with that do seem pretty stressed, or if not stressed, almost forced/mechanical in their actions, afraid to make a wrong move, as personally, I feel he drills too long; maybe he repeats repeats so his viewing audience can absorb it. He's just not my favorite guy to watch - a bitt oo hyper Yes, each has many good things to offer, and thats why I keep watching. However, the important thing to remember, the number one rule, no matter who's system(s) you are using, is that you have to be fair in your timing for punishment/reward, and consistant w/ demands. Re. rope halters. Why would you not use them for trailering? I use them almost exclusively, with no ill effects (that I am aware of). I can see why not to use them x-tying, as there are no rings to clip on to. And, one thing about x-tying, I have been in barns where folks do this, and many of the horses that are tied this way do NOT know how to stand tied! My S.O. Dave the Shoer-Guy works at some pretty high falutin' HJ/dressage barns, and he uses his own rope halter on his shoeing horses, and does not use x-ties, even if they are there in the shoers area. He should know, he spends 1/2 his day underneath horses for a living. Btw, we found some really nice rope halters made by a fellow up in eastern Idaho; he was exhibiting in the trade show section of the Winnemucca Ranch Rodeo last April. They are nice and stout, but have a very soft feel, not stiff hard. But the neat thing is by using an old fashioned cast slip thru fastener (like on the old cheap cotton shipping halters) he takes all of the guess-work out of handtying them, which in winter is a hassle w/ gloved hands, and can lead to some escapes if folks don't tie correctly. They are still able to adjust over the poll, but it just has an easier way of fastening. He also does some beautiful bridlework w/ gorgeous lined leather stiching, as he was trained in making NICE driving harness up in Canada and is quite reasonable. I can look up his name number if anyone is interested. We are experiencing one heck of a storm here in the basin below the sierras, land of the 'rain shadow', HA! We are at Day 3, and expect 2 more days according to the weather guru's. So far in this 'Pineapple Experss' storm we had 12 inches of snow dump onto an allready exisitng 8from the previous storm last weekend. Dave has been quite busy on the backhoe getting folks out of thier snowed in driveways. I couldn't get into work last Fri. due to the highway btwn reno Carson being shut down twice before 8 am. A very warm storm with mostly snow that turns to rain. We are worried about flooding. In '97 the Carson River that is about 1/4 mi to the E of us rose up covered 1/2 of the ranch for 5 days. Talk about horses acting wierd! My stallion Sven his mare-for-life, Jorunn, refused to get into their paddock in the dark, so I turned them out in their 5 acre pasture. Well, by morining, their paddock was under a foot a 1/2 of water with seagulls and ducks bobbing along ! They instictively knew, as neither of them had ever been in this kind of situation before. Listen to you horse! Looks like a bit of a break so i am gonna climb on someones back go check out the snowy landscape see how the river is 'doin. Cheers, Kmac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees
RE: Jeans weather reports...
This message is from: Gwenn Paul Beaupre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean wrote: Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, light snow, +10F Winter is here! You often do not put in the F, so as a good Canadian I often look and think hey, close to the temp here in Ontario, why is she getting the snow and we arent... the penny dropped this evening (maybe I'm just tired)... F vs. C ... ok, now I get it... *grin* Hoping for our turn at some snow.. they're calling for it wet this evening but it won't last. Yet. ... Gwenn
Re: yucky weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/23/04 12:40:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Janice in Nebraska PS It occurred to me as I reread this post that we are indeed in a doldrum, nothing spicier on the list than a weather report!! But I suspect that too will change. thanks, janice.i am sure i will be writing again when it's 20 below LOLOL.. i am finding that fjord do remember everything. i was told that oz's only vice is a fear of white plastic. nobody is sure why he has it, but even after a clinic where we tried to desensitize horses to just about anything, he still has problems with plastic bags. he is getting a terrific winter coat right now.. laurie and shaggy oz
Re: yucky weather
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't get to ride very often in these Alaskan winters but my Fjords seems to remember their training over the winter. They do get a little Attitude at first, mostly on the ground, but quickly become the respectful horses they were in the fall..It seems they just have to try to see what they can get away with..testing ME to see what I have forgotten LOL. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, winter has come with 4 snow on the ground, but still mild: 30 degrees. anyhowdo you find your horses pick it up again in the spring if they aren't ridden a lot in the winter? i am going to take lessons once a week, but not sure how much i can do other than on the ground. laurie and oz the dodge central minnesota
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anyone else sick of this prelude to winter we have been having? i rode last weekend at a clinic where i used to take lessons (let me tell you what happens when someone who doesn't ride enough spends almost 6 hours total in one day!..forget about riding the next day LOL). i was hoping to get out at least a little during the week, and it's been rainy, drizzly and dark ALL week. poor oz, i hardly ride much in the winter, but this sure isn't helping! besides that, when i get home it's dark.i would hand walk him down our dirt road, but not in the RAINY dark. i think he had a good time at the clinic, though maybe not when all the other horses were cantering around him. the second day, when i was watching, a very good young rider from the east coast, who is the goddaughter of the clinic instructor, rode him for a while, and it was interesting to watch him with someone else riding him the last thing they always do in these clinics is play tag on horseback, and i wondered how he would do. one person starts out as it and tags someone. everyone who gets tagged becomes it, until there are many more people who are than aren't. this young woman rode his trot way up his neck in a two-point, and he just hugged the ground and did that wonderful fast, fjord pony trot and avoided getting tagged for a long time. when it was just her and three others left, the tagged people came toward them side by side down the arena. she took oz and just ran toward them like a linebacker, and rumbled through them all, avoiding the tag. next time she did the same thing, and just as they got to the group, they did a wonderful pivot and ran the other direction. hee hee.when i congratulated her on the great evasive manuever she used, she told me the truth..he saw them all coming at him and said i'm outta here! anyhowdo you find your horses pick it up again in the spring if they aren't ridden a lot in the winter? i am going to take lessons once a week, but not sure how much i can do other than on the ground. laurie and oz the dodge central minnesota
Fairbnaks weather, was Mid's Brita
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually the highest temperatures occur about 6:30-7:00pm and it does cool down at night somewhat. Right now it IS getting really dark for about an hour, around 2:00am. Our time zone is skewed so high noon actually occurs here at 2:00 Alaska daylight time! In June it didn't really cool down that much at night. This june was the Hottest and driest on record. Thank goodness May was the wettest on record or we wouldn't have had any hay. As it was, with a wet May and a warm dry June, everybody got their hay in without rain, and it was a great crop! The second cutting, if there is any, will be poor, however as there was hardly any growth due to the lack of rain. The fires are still going, with flare ups in the unburned islands in the center, no growth on the perimeters, but some smoke in town. I guess they won't be out until snow flies! Jean in sunny and warm Falirbanks, ALaska, 85 degrees. PS BTW Jean, I've been wondering, if it stays light most of the night do the temperatures still cool down or does it stay warm all night? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glory bits and the change in weather
This message is from: M Korose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ref the bit discussion. Looks like a lot of folks will be going out to get G. bits, which is great, I swear they are the BEST Fjord driving bits and some folks swear by them for riding. I have some information for you all, if you want to get further, I used butterflys as a single and just naturally started to use them with my pair. Muffy Seaton (reknowned driving person) here said yes, the bit is fine, but the butterfly cheeks are not good for a pair, the inner lines tend to pull the cheeks out of alignment, she suggested the liverpool cheek butterflys for the pair. I did that, I personnally don't like liverpools, but the bit cheeks don't pull out and these liverpools are nicely made. More trivia!! Change in weather, notice the colic cases coming up? As the weather changes make sure your horses get water that they want will drink as we go into the colder temps. I was very suprised to have a colt weanling refuse the first cold water of the season as he was confused 2 years ago, that could lead to problems. I now have 2 buckets for a weanling stall and monitor them carefully. Keep an eagle eye on newcomers and youngsters asthe season progresses! Marsha in VA where the temps are really falling this week, need to get those heated buckets out soon. The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh that's too funny Martie. I sure love the chat we are reading on our list lately. I was looking out the window yesterday after our girls Emily and Taffeta finished their feed. Taffy's 10 mo. old Prins who was gelded before 3 mo. old and weaned before 5 months old is always the last at the feed box. When he finished the girls were laying down looking so full and contented. He goes over to Mom , nudged then nibbles on her face ,ears, and head.I watched as Mom , finally Mom gets up and walks away, he then followed her and has his nose under her, looking for a little milk. Mom scolded and he left her to get what's left. Water!!! Its great to have a little one around. Tillie P/S our weather has been a little cold at night 30 to 35 and the days gets up to low 50. Beautiful but we need moisture. Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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This message is from: bolinsj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weather again today! Just as we went out to feed this morning, a big gale and driving rain started. I ran for the barn (late this morning cause I was on the phone), sloshing through shin high water and frozen melt from the 28 inches of recent snow and started getting the feed together. Usually, Kilar and Wee eat on one side of the barn in two side-by-side stalls and Frida goes to the other side of the barn for her food. (Away from the brat, Wee). Today, because of the downpour, both Fjordies dove into Kilar's stall and when I put the feed in the feeders, Frida said NO way was she going back out into that rain to walk around the barn. Well, I was NOT going to grab her and LEAD her around in this mess, so I let her come across the barn aisle from one stall to the other. On the way, she grabs an unopened bale of hay and drags it along to her stall :-) . I yelled at her and she dropped it, looked at me like 'sheesh! first they feed me late, then they expect me to walk through a downpour, and NOW they're mad at me for trying to help speed things up a little! Boy Mom sure is a crab!' She's so .. Frida. Gotta love the Fjord-helpful mentality. Wow are they shedding! With all this rain, their manes are falling over again too. Guess its clipper time. Martie -looking for ANYTHING cheerful in this dreary weather.
Re: rain, weather swings
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talk about weird weather swings...It has been 40-45 ABOVE zero here for the last two days, snow has melted off the trees, dripping off the roof. The biggest worry, with your weather, would be the wind. My guys definitely dislike wind, and try to get out of it, standing behind the barn when it comes a certain direction. Wind and cold rain, sleet, etc. IS a good reason to keep them in. As for their fur Freezing and falling out, no it won't do that! your young ones probably have a very wooly coat, and probably somewhat oily, too, as Karen Mc. mentioned one time. the wet hair may freeze on the outside, but stick your finger in to feel down at their skin and you will probably find that it is dry at the skin. If you do see them shivering, get them into shelter and feed some hay and the shivering should stop. If not, then maybe blanket until they warm up. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with warm chinook winds bringing the February thaw +40 predicted again today! We had a weird weather swing here recently, 45 and rainy one day, 3 F w. 40 mph winds the next. For the first time 6mo Kirsten and the donkey did not dry out completely overnite (the two big Fjords did, tho) So I kept them all in their fancy 3 sided barn for the day and night till the weather moderated and the young ones were dry. I was afraid the young ones would get the dreaded Pneumonia or their fur would freeze and fall out or they would get the shivers. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rain, weather swings
This message is from: Hope Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] We had a weird weather swing here recently, 45 and rainy one day, 3 F w. 40 mph winds the next. For the first time 6mo Kirsten and the donkey did not dry out completely overnite (the two big Fjords did, tho) So I kept them all in their fancy 3 sided barn for the day and night till the weather moderated and the young ones were dry. I was afraid the young ones would get the dreaded Pneumonia or their fur would freeze and fall out or they would get the shivers. I've never had young horses before. My vet said I don't need to put jackets on them in pasture, just on a working horse to cool them out. Do you guys put wicking sheets on the littles in weather like this, or just keep them in or turn them out and with activity they finish drying themselves off? They have free access to good shelter and warm water all the time. The big Fjords were very complacent about the weather change, didn't bother them at all, were ready to go out, but kept them in for the comfort of the little ones. Hard to eval risk of weather vs. risk of change in routine. Thanks, Hope N IL
cold weather
This message is from: Oscar and Shirley Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Brr Morning, 8 degrees in north Idaho this morning. I have already found which tank heaters work, and am carrying a hammer for the ice on the tank that has a problem. My ponies are fuzzy and appear ready for the cold, I however am not. Don't forget that horses continue to need a large amount of water each day, and I personally think they do better if that water doesn't have ice cubes floating in it. I am also sending out a reminder to anyone involved (or those who would like to be involved), that Saturday, November 2 is the Fall meeting for the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group. Bill Weber and Woody Hoopes have planned a packing clinic, and hope to put together a (late July) pack trip for those ready to try an easy trip with their Fjords. The clinic is at 2:00pm with a buffet dinner and meeting at 4:00pm. It all takes place at the Shilo Inn in Moses Lake, Washington. For more information contact Bill and Sally at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Shirley Anderson, Oscar's Round Mountain Fjords.
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/13/2002 6:07:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The best part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out. Very well said!! Don't let that mane intimidate you, it's just hair. ;) Just comb it good and imagine that arch, then start snipping. Good Luck! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just do it. Use a good pair of Fiskars. They cost about $15. The best part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out. Well, I did it. Lisken no longer looks like a baby with curly, fluffy long mane. What change it made in her looks! I gave her a full bath at the same time. She looks pretty good right now - of course I know she'll go roll in the dirt somewhere and undo it all. Ü She loves to roll after standing in the irrigation sprinklers, too. Forgot where you live, but it must be in the southwest. Yes? Central Washington state. Who ever named this state the evergreen state never visited the east side of the state! It's been over 105* all week. Built FJORD tough Carol M. , On Golden Pond, Northern Wisconsin I love the built FJORD tough! Lisken was born April 28th so is a Taurus so we'd jokingly thought about calling her Quad-L's Fjord Taurus. We're a Ford family and of course Fjord is just Ford with a J! Ü Have a great day everyone, Taffy Mercer in HOT central Washington state
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Mercers wrote: This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Well, it's time for me to do my first mane trimming. Anyone have some good hints as to what works best for them? I also have to trim my 2 1/2 month old filly's mane for the first time. How do you start? Hi, Just do it. Use a good pair of Fiskars. They cost about $15. The best part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out. There should be plenty of chat and info about this in the archives. Forgot where you live, but it must be in the southwest. Yes? Good luck on the manes. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Well, it's time for me to do my first mane trimming. Anyone have some good hints as to what works best for them? I also have to trim my 2 1/2 month old filly's mane for the first time. How do you start? She looks like Little Orphan Annie with the gorgeous mane of red curls which is now turning the standard black and cream as it grows out. It was 107* here at the farm today. In town it was up to 117* according to a thermometers at a bank. I gave all three Fjords a good washing to cool them off and we installed Arizona misters in the paddock area to help cool it a few degrees. Keep cool! Taffy Mercer
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, with the best laid plans, I have had mares foal in and out of stalls, once in the open doorway (!), a mud bog, on D.G. sand, on grass, on straw and on shavings (kiln dried fir) - all with no ill effects. The babies were fine. 'Course it helps if mom is in fine shape and is current on her shots etc. As far as foal vigor goes, I think its very rare indeed that a fjord foal comes into this world unprepared for the worst weather. They are the fluffiest little greaseballs (lanolin) I have ever been around. I think it is our own human notions of whats comfortable for *us* that get in the way sometimes. We try to make things too cushy, forgetting the reality of where these horses originated from. kmac _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: cold weather babies
This message is from: sara faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wow... thanks for all the great info... we are getting in some unexpected winter midwifery practice... 8 sheep we got about 3 months ago are all pregnant!! they had been in with a little jacob ram lamb but the guy we got them from swore that he was too small and too young to cause any trouble... we did think they were getting a little plump... the first was born last night so we have out all the heat lamps and are bedding them deep. spring must be just around the corner... sara Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: Deb Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have used sawdust course without problems in the distant past. however my references from The Complete Book of Foaling says to avoid this if at all possible. it sites the presence of klebsiella bacteria. (this is a nasty bug for people) I had been using course planner sawdust from kiln dried wood rather than the green sawdust from mills cutting raw lumber. Our first is due the end of February. Last year Rosie foaled 2 weeks early with no bag prior. I'm watching her like a hawk this year. She started being picky about hay 3 days ago and only has some congestion on her belly infront of her udder. that's what last year was like. I'll be watching the emails for your delivery news. Debi Williams Williams Hill Fjords Waterford, Pa Home of Tolgar,Tanja, Rosie, Belle,Hilda and Beckett and 3 on the way. - Original Message - From: GAIL RUSSELL To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:35 AM Subject: Re: cold weather babies This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rice straw works...if you can get it, of course. Are chips/shavings safe? I thought I remembered something about not using them at foaling? Stevensville, MT Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: rlg_creations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gee Amy, that is hard to imagine.LOL!!! Reena and Gustav 24° Michigan This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, you should try wheat straw - we had very little problem with ours trying to eat that. I guess it's not very tasty even to a fjord! Amy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/2002
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/11/2002 8:01:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One time I had some oat hay which pretty much looked like straw but with seed heads, and they ate that eagerly. Actually, you should try wheat straw - we had very little problem with ours trying to eat that. I guess it's not very tasty even to a fjord! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I used barley straw, not so tasty! One time I had some oat hay which pretty much looked like straw but with seed heads, and they ate that eagerly. I think to be safe, grass hay instead of straw would be best? Jean, some straws are not as tasty as others so they do not eat it. yes, last year I bedded Ori's stall with oat straw ... nice and thick. put her in it for the night, left her plenty of hay and water and went inside. When I came out in the morning, I thought the wind had blown the majority of the straw out of her stall. It turns out she had eaten it. She colic'd for 3 days. It was NOT fun. Jean in Fairbanksk, Alaska, 0 degrees (F) and 2 new sparkly snow! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rice straw works...if you can get it, of course. Are chips/shavings safe? I thought I remembered something about not using them at foaling? I ended up using chips to bed her stall with, a nice thick layer. Her foal was due the first of April and it was very cold. The chips worked well, the stall was easy to clean and they didn't get eaten! I could also haul the bags home easily in my van and didn't have to take the truck to town. But I've heard there can be a downside to the ch ips too. Sarah Stevensville, MT Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: Sarah Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, some straws are not as tasty as others so they do not eat it. Mine helped themselves to some oat straw that I had put down so we could walk over the mud. Both horses impacted on the dry stuff. $$$ Vet bill plus the worry. Jean yes, last year I bedded Ori's stall with oat straw ... nice and thick. put her in it for the night, left her plenty of hay and water and went inside. When I came out in the morning, I thought the wind had blown the majority of the straw out of her stall. It turns out she had eaten it. She colic'd for 3 days. It was NOT fun. In a 3 day period, the vet was out 2 times, and I hauled her in 2 times. We were up with her at night continously. If it weren't for my sis-in-law Teresa being there, I don't know how I would have done it. From what my vet said, many horse owners feed their horses straw as a filler, and he didn't feel the straw could have been a problem. But, heck, anytime you eat almost an entire bale of something in an 8 hour period, it's probably going be trouble! lol Fjords love to eat. That Oat straw was a big problem. Perhaps a coarser straw, not so good smelling wouldn't have been so palatable. I don't know. I ended up using chips to bed her stall with, a nice thick layer. Her foal was due the first of April and it was very cold. The chips worked well, the stall was easy to clean and they didn't get eaten! I could also haul the bags home easily in my van and didn't have to take the truck to town. But I've heard there can be a downside to the ch ips too. Sarah Stevensville, MT
cold weather babies....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jean Ernest, for your input on bedding broodmares with straw. We have also kept plenty of good hay in front of our Green Meadow broodmares while on straw after foaling and, thankfully, never had an issue. 'Hope our friends in Maine do read your important message since I neglected to address that in my e-mail. Karen
Re: cold weather babies....
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, some straws are not as tasty as others so they do not eat it. Mine helped themselves to some oat straw that I had put down so we could walk over the mud. Both horses impacted on the dry stuff. $$$ Vet bill plus the worry. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, I used straw, but had plenty of hay in the stall for my mare to eat. You could also bed them down in clean grass hay to avoid any worries about eating straw. A friend here, who is on the list, has a fjord mare due to foal in March here in Fairbanks, where it can be -40 at night sometimes. She had to have the mare bred early as she was being transported up to Fairbanks in May..but she will have a heated area for foaling. The trick is to make sure the mare is inside when she foals..She has lined up several friends to watch the mare while she is teaching at school. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +18 F today and I started to clear the arena with the snowblower. At 03:37 PM 2/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen that is a toasty clean stall you prepare but just one word of caution. Fjords eat straw, the mare could overload on it and have more than just birth problems. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen that is a toasty clean stall you prepare but just one word of caution. Fjords eat straw, the mare could overload on it and have more than just birth problems. Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
cold weather babies....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sara, We've been breeding Morgan horses here on Green Meadow Farm for twenty-two years. Our earliest foal arrived one year in February. It's really very manageable if you make a few extra preparations to your foaling stall ahead of time. First, be sure to cover any exterior paddock doors with a sheet of plywood to stop any drafts from entering. Then (after thoroughly cleaning the stall floors as we use a double stall for foaling our mares out) put down a layer of shavings/sawdust that is at least six inches in depth. Once that is down, leveled and covers every corner of the stall; shake out as much weedless, dustless, clean straw as it takes to make a bed of straw at least a foot deep. When your curly, pink, adorable little Fjord foal arrives it will be toasty warm By the way, being of Norwegian descent, these little guys are born waterproof and very ready for the cold. The lanolin on their coats is by far the finest hand cream you will ever rub on your hands! They're much hardier than our Morgan foals, so you have no need for concern. April in Maine is certainly warmer than February in Massachusetts. First foals are a little scarey, but be sure to enjoy them when they're little. They grow sooo quickly, and they're absolutely the cutest! 'Feel free to call at any time if I might be of help, Karen Emirzian Green Meadow Farm Wilbraham, Massachusetts phone: 413-596-9009
Re: cold weather babies
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] sara faull wrote: We are expecting a baby this year in early April, Hi Sara, last year we had a colt born on April 5, I was a bit worried ahead of time because it was still cold here, but he came out with one of the thickest furriest coats I've ever seen, and he was just fine. He was foaled indoors and the stall was well bedded with straw and we were there to help dry him off, perhaps it would have been different if he was born in snow bank or something. But, he had the thickest coat of any foal we've had, the others were all born much later in April or in May, so Mother Nature definitely was on top of the situation. Lori
Re: cold weather babies
This message is from: Deb Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just keep the drafts of them. we use rubber mats on the floor to keep it warmer too. Debi Williams Williams Hill Fjords Waterford, Pa Home of Tolgar,Tanja, Rosie, Belle,Hilda and Beckett - Original Message - From: sara faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: cold weather babies This message is from: sara faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello everyone out there... I am pretty new to the list. I have been working with fjords for over two years at a non-profit farm up in Maine. My partner and I are beginning to take over the breeding side of the farm and will move it and some of the horses to our own farm this spring-- keeping a partnership with the farm we are on now (perhaps you saw the ad for our stallion Karimann in the Herald). I have been so impressed with the fjords and am excited to use them for all different kinds of things on the farm. We are expecting a baby this year in early April, although there have been many babies born here, this will be the earliest in the season that we have had one... so I wanted to ask if anybody else in the colder climates has any experience or words of wisdom... Maine weather is unpredictable especially in April I have really enjoyed the list so far...Sara Faull MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here
Re: cold weather babies
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the list Sara. I have only brief experience with foals but am sure you will receive some ideas here. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
cold weather babies
This message is from: sara faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello everyone out there... I am pretty new to the list. I have been working with fjords for over two years at a non-profit farm up in Maine. My partner and I are beginning to take over the breeding side of the farm and will move it and some of the horses to our own farm this spring-- keeping a partnership with the farm we are on now (perhaps you saw the ad for our stallion Karimann in the Herald). I have been so impressed with the fjords and am excited to use them for all different kinds of things on the farm. We are expecting a baby this year in early April, although there have been many babies born here, this will be the earliest in the season that we have had one... so I wanted to ask if anybody else in the colder climates has any experience or words of wisdom... Maine weather is unpredictable especially in April I have really enjoyed the list so far...Sara Faull MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here
Re: snow cold - request for weather
This message is from: Kathy Spiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just north of Cache Valley and a lot south of Fairbanks. ( Southeastern Idaho ) I have 2-3 feet of snow on the ground, ( not counting drifts) lowest this week was 20 below at night 20 during the day. We will have a white Christmas even if we do not get any more snow. If we get a Chinook though we will need an ARK. We seem to be in a local snow bowl this year. Just ordered a BIG snowblower since we are running out of places to put the stuff with an old tractor and blade-but not complaining since we are hopefully coming out of the second year of a very severe drought. My tall mule and TB are tiptoeing around - do not like the snow and are hilarious to watch. The Fjord is practicing for a calendar cover. Runs through it as fast as she can - and looks like shes enjoying it. ( could be trying to keep her belly out of the snow too- the other two equines are a whole lot taller). In spite of howling winds and almost daily snow they do not go in the barn. Love their morning coffee and ditto the excuse for more feed especially the fjord. Kathy in the Caribou highlands of SE Idaho
sweaty horses in cold weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers; In response to sweaty horses in cold weather -- might want to check this company. From NORMAN EQUINE DESIGNS -- 1-800-348-5673 website: horse-blankets.com The Snuggy Line I have the Snuggy II - it is great! The fabric wicks away the moisture while keeping the horse warm. Design of blanket is comfortable and it can be washed in machine. Easy on and off. Stretchy for ease of movement. Linda in MN - temps are cooling off but no snow yet. Sven and Lena have become good friends - they each have a grain pan but, prefer to share!!
Re: weather
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eunice writes: Maybe deep down inside Judy is really envious of your weather Not a chance! In southern Ontario it has been very wet.We too should cut the grass again. * Can't imagine it NOT being under about a foot of snow by now, Eunice. Today it is cloudy and cool.. had a few light flurries last night. Judy, do you not get tired of the same old weather day after day? ** Not a bit But we do have rainy days interspersed, so it's not really the same. It reminds me of something I saw on the net once,... All weather is good, just some days are different. Or something like that. Well, here in AR, it's all been VERY good. :-) Just think of all the fun you are missing when you can't go for a sleigh ride in the winter through the deep snow with bells ringing! *** Have to admit that that DOES sound nice. But I'll make that sacrifice to avoid months and months of nothing but white, blinding, and very COLD snow. Here we can understand why our fjords put on those wooly coats. ** And the Curly horses dress up in their very best curls. John had a cap given to him with the following on the front of it. Pictures of a Canadian flag and an igloo,and printed words: Eh!and ONLY IN CANADA. That pretty well describes us in the north. Eh! What ya think? ** Eh,... personally, I think I'll stick to the Southwest. Judy in 70 degree with sun AR, after a nice rain last night.
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This message is from: John Eunice Bosomworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I too enjoy it the weather reports included in the message along with your location. Maybe deep down inside Judy is really envious of your weather when she wrote: Well, Ruthie and Jean, I don't know how either one of you stand those horrible loong winters and temperatures. We're still running around in shirt sleeves during the day, and may use just a touch of heat in the morning. Pastures are still green, and could even have to mow the lawn one more time before winter. Judy, in sunny, balmy Arkansas. In southern Ontario it has been very wet.We too should cut the grass again. Today it is cloudy and cool.. had a few light flurries last night. Judy, do you not get tired of the same old weather day after day? Just think of all the fun you are missing when you can't go for a sleigh ride in the winter through the deep snow with bells ringing! Here we can understand why our fjords put on those wooly coats. John had a cap given to him with the following on the front of it. Pictures of a Canadian flag and an igloo,and printed words: Eh!and ONLY IN CANADA. That pretty well describes us in the north. Eh! What ya think? Fjordally yours, Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Eunice Bosomworth Deere Country Fjords Ayton, Ontario, CANADA `
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/5/01 10:38:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today was wonderful. It was slightly overcast high about 72 or so, really comfortable for a change. Tomorrow is supposed to be about the same then a little warmer for the show on Fri, Sat, Sun with sunshine. Highs in the Thanks to both of you for the weather report. We'll bring appropriate clothes.And my laptop computer! Pamela
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:55 AM 9/5/01 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good. Mike, what's the weather like? We're leaving Portland tomorrow at noon and I don't know what to pack! Today was wonderful. It was slightly overcast high about 72 or so, really comfortable for a change. Tomorrow is supposed to be about the same then a little warmer for the show on Fri, Sat, Sun with sunshine. Highs in the high 70's according to the news. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:37 PM 9/5/01 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela I met Mike in Libby today.. maybe he's too busy to respond.. it's overcast here today (thank God for some relief from the heat) but quite warm anyhow. It does get cold at nights here though so bring a jacket =)) Ruthie (looks like a rousing turnout!) Na I am never that busy! ;-) Meeting a lot of the people form the list out here. That is one of the nice parts of coming to the different shows Evaluations around the country. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela I met Mike in Libby today.. maybe he's too busy to respond.. it's overcast here today (thank God for some relief from the heat) but quite warm anyhow. It does get cold at nights here though so bring a jacket =)) Ruthie (looks like a rousing turnout!) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/4/01 10:35:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it isn't. I am still here I am in Libby typing this actually! Hello from the Libby Evaluation! Mike Good. Mike, what's the weather like? We're leaving Portland tomorrow at noon and I don't know what to pack! Pamela
Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/4/01 10:35:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it isn't. I am still here I am in Libby typing this actually! Hello from the Libby Evaluation! Mike Good. Mike, what's the weather like? We're leaving Portland tomorrow at noon and I don't know what to pack! Pamela
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] His bucking behaviour is just if I want to stop him running. Thats more a temparement-problem. We were out with another horse, a mare, and he didn't want to stay behind her. His saddle is one personnaly made for him because his back is going up. The problem with laying down was a circulation collapse due to the warm weather as I was told by the Vet. If it is the only time I needn't do anything, if it will come a second time I have to give him medicine against it. If it is very warm I should cool him with cold water beginning from legs upwards. (Embedded Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]@angus.mystery.com image moved 03.08.2001 20:15 to file: pic07815.pcx) Please respond to fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com cc: Subject: Re: Whether to ride in warm weather? Security Level:? Internal This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anke that is very sad. but perhaps it is a saddle problem. I use a heavy, thick western pad for my english saddle and it then fits all of my horses. Also perhaps a back problem? Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Amazon.com to order [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of pic07815.pcx]
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anke that is very sad. but perhaps it is a saddle problem. I use a heavy, thick western pad for my english saddle and it then fits all of my horses. Also perhaps a back problem? Such a worry as I am still struggling with the founder of my huge horse Charley. It is up and down to where every morning I say to my self, Now what? as I head for the barn. But with your horse it does sound like bad pain of some sort. Best of luck and let us know. . Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Amazon.com to order
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was out yesterday for a short trail. My gelding A'simi seemed to has a lot of power. He always wanted to galopp, was bucking, when I was trying to stop him and suddenly he laid down. He sweat hardly and I walked home with him slowly. Today the Vet will come and have a look for him.
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your input, Steve. Subtracting the wind speed makes sense. We had some T-storms pass through last night so our temp. is down in the 70s-8os, but the humidity is way up to 80-90%-can't win! I haven't ridden my gelding, Jock, for over a week now-I hate this stuff! Supposed to get drier tomarrow. Joni
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/30/01 11:13:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Fjord enjoy standing in the sun. He do not walk into the shadow. Why? Hi Anke- I imagine God blessed the horse (and the Fjord doubly so : ) with many abilities, including thermoregulation. With free choice, he will move in or out of sun, shade, rain, etc., as needed. Interestingly, mine go under trees during hot days, but they will stand unbothered by driving rain! Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We had 370 C = 98,40 F here at the weekend - much to warm for riding I thought ... and so we brought our straw inside while the horses had to relax. On monday I knew that's also to warm for working a lot. My Fjord enjoy standing in the sun. He do not walk into the shadow. Why?
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The formula that I've heard of is temp + humidity - wind speed. If the total is less than 150 then it is OK to work the horse. Some people use 130 as the cut off. I've been using this formula most of the summer and it seems reasonable. Steve in Nebraska, where at noon the total is 138 (T 87F + H 61% - W 10mph) and rising fast. Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: Whether to ride in warm weather?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone out there heard of a rule stating you don't work a horse when the temp. and humidity added together equal 140? Joni in Wis. where we had a short break from heat and humidity, but it's already back on the rise :-(
