Re: [flexcoders] Re: performance issues

2006-07-28 Thread judah






You know what would be cool, is for someone to write a system
performance tester in flex2. Have it run through video tests, floating
point tests, regexp tests, etc. (all the subsystems) and then spit out
a report so we can compare and pinpoint some of these things. I'd do it
but I'm not familiar enough with the Flex 2 api yet. 

Anatole Tartakovsky wrote:

   
  should be 
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance.html  
- no customization - pure UITextField default renderer
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance1.html 
- some formatting - 5 labelFunctions
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance2.html 
- run-time styles, formatting and computed expressions
   
  Chances are that it is more video card issue - as a matter of
fact, I can reduce performance 3-4 times on the same machine using
VMWare as it uses CPU for emulation of some GDI calls.
  
  
 
  On 7/28/06, bhaq1972 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  





i tried your links out (btw the first 2 are pointing to the same

example). on my normal development machine (6 months old with all 
the trimmings) performance is very quick as expected.

but when i tried it from an old laptop (4-5 years old) it felt like 
one of my flex 1.5 datagridsvery slow and sluggish scrolling.

made me appreciate how much of a good job adobe did in flex2.

regards
bod

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How is the performance on your machine of the samples in my 
links ? - trying
> to isolate player/setStyle performance from application code 
efficiency.
> Thank you,
> Anatole
> 
> 
> 

> On 7/28/06, Pan Troglodytes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For reference, my testing was done on a dual core athlon 64 
4400 with a
> > geforce 7800 gt and 2 gigs of ram. Hardware is not a limiting

factor.
> >

> > On 7/28/06, Anatole Tartakovsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Matt,
> > > I placed typical business case to show the performance
issues 
based on
> > > hardware used:
> > >
> > > case 1 : basic 

grid<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance.h
tml>- no formatting or styling

> > > case 2: basic grid with typical 

formatting<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_perform
ance.html>- no styling

> > > case 3: typical usage of formatting and 

styling<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performanc
e.html>- IMPLEMENTED VIA RUN-TIME CSS AND COMPUTED EXPRESSIONS - very

> > > straightforward code
> > >
> > > While performance is reasonable on midrange 2 year old
PC, my 
business
> > > laptop is very sluggish , however multimedia one with
good 
graphics chip and
> > > slower CPU works faster then PC.
> > >
> > > Here is the source for the business case:
> > >
> > > 

> > > http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml
 "
> > > xmlns="*" layout="vertical"
> > > xmlns:lib="com.theriabook.controls.*"
> > > viewSourceURL="srcview/index.html">
> > > 

> > > .dgHeaderStyle {
> > > textAlign:center;
> > > fontWeight : bold;
> > > backgroundAlpha:.5;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 

> > > 

> > > 
> > > 
> > > headerStyleName="dgHeaderStyle"
> > > dataProvider="{getEmployees()}">

> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 

> > > 
> > > dataField="DEPT_ID"
> > > 
props="{{'resource':'employee','keyColumn&ap
os;:'dept_id','autoFill':'true'}}"/>

> > >
> > > 
> > > formatString="phone" />
> > > 
dataField="BENE_DAY_CARE"

> > > itemRenderer=" 
com.theriabook.controls.CheckBox"
> > > rendererIsEditor="true" 
editorDataField="value"
> > > textAlign="center" paddingLeft="5"

> > >
> > > 
expando="{{'onValue':'Y','offValue':&ap
os;N'}}"
> > > />
> > > 
> > > formatString="ssn" />
> > > 
> > > formatString="currency"
> > >
> > > 
styles="{{'color':salaryColor,'fontWeight':functi

on
> > > (item:*):String{ return item.SALARY > 5?{ return 
item.SALARY >
> > >
5?'bold':'normal'} }}"
> > > />
> > > 
> > > formatString="currency" editable="true" >
> > > 
> > > 
backgroundColor="{salaryColor}"
> > > backgroundAlpha=".3"/>

> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > formatString="shortdate"/>
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > On
7/21/06, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well DataGrid scrolling performance is something
that 
we've spent

> > > > a lot of time tuning so I would love for us to get
a full 
test case that we
> > > > can look at. I saw in the thread you linked
mentioning a 
1600x1200 monitor,
> > > > is the DataGrid taking up most of that real estate?
The 
more visible rows
> > > > the slower the scrolling will be. Another thing you
could 
look at is in
> > > > your setter for the data comparing against the old
value and 
if it hasn't

> > > > changed not doing anything, it may be that it's
invalidating

Re: [flexcoders] Re: performance issues

2006-07-28 Thread judah






I'd like to add a "me too" to the performance thing. If there is one
thing I'd like to worked on it would be optimizing the code. On the
first example it is a little bit sluggish. On the second and third
example start to get choppy. When I say choppy I mean it freezes for a
split second. I can record a video of it if needed. On some other flex
2 apps I've noticed some slow down or choppiness in transitions. Not
all of them. It's odd because any Flash 8 site runs smoothly. 

I am using a 4yr old pc with a brand new video card. I know its "old"
but I can run any program fine (photoshop, flash, flex, i get slow down
in notepad -jk) so I've never felt the need to upgrade. 
AMD Athlon 2400, 1GB Ram, NVidia Geforce 6600

Judah

Anatole Tartakovsky wrote:

   
  should be 
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance.html  
- no customization - pure UITextField default renderer
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance1.html 
- some formatting - 5 labelFunctions
  http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance2.html 
- run-time styles, formatting and computed expressions
   
  Chances are that it is more video card issue - as a matter of
fact, I can reduce performance 3-4 times on the same machine using
VMWare as it uses CPU for emulation of some GDI calls.
  
  
 
  On 7/28/06, bhaq1972 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  





i tried your links out (btw the first 2 are pointing to the same

example). on my normal development machine (6 months old with all 
the trimmings) performance is very quick as expected.

but when i tried it from an old laptop (4-5 years old) it felt like 
one of my flex 1.5 datagridsvery slow and sluggish scrolling.

made me appreciate how much of a good job adobe did in flex2.

regards
bod

--- In 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Anatole Tartakovsky" 


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How is the performance on your machine of the samples in my 
links ? - trying
> to isolate player/setStyle performance from application code 
efficiency.
> Thank you,
> Anatole
> 
> 
> 

> On 7/28/06, Pan Troglodytes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For reference, my testing was done on a dual core athlon 64 
4400 with a
> > geforce 7800 gt and 2 gigs of ram. Hardware is not a limiting

factor.
> >

> > On 7/28/06, Anatole Tartakovsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Matt,
> > > I placed typical business case to show the performance
issues 
based on
> > > hardware used:
> > >
> > > case 1 : basic 

grid<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance.h
tml>- no formatting or styling

> > > case 2: basic grid with typical 

formatting<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_perform
ance.html>- no styling

> > > case 3: typical usage of formatting and 

styling<
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performanc
e.html>- IMPLEMENTED VIA RUN-TIME CSS AND COMPUTED EXPRESSIONS - very

> > > straightforward code
> > >
> > > While performance is reasonable on midrange 2 year old
PC, my 
business
> > > laptop is very sluggish , however multimedia one with
good 
graphics chip and
> > > slower CPU works faster then PC.
> > >
> > > Here is the source for the business case:
> > >
> > > 

> > > http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml
 "
> > > xmlns="*" layout="vertical"
> > > xmlns:lib="com.theriabook.controls.*"
> > > viewSourceURL="srcview/index.html">
> > > 

> > > .dgHeaderStyle {
> > > textAlign:center;
> > > fontWeight : bold;
> > > backgroundAlpha:.5;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 

> > > 

> > > 
> > > 
> > > headerStyleName="dgHeaderStyle"
> > > dataProvider="{getEmployees()}">

> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 

> > > 
> > > dataField="DEPT_ID"
> > > 
props="{{'resource':'employee','keyColumn&ap
os;:'dept_id','autoFill':'true'}}"/>

> > >
> > > 
> > > formatString="phone" />
> > > 
dataField="BENE_DAY_CARE"

> > > itemRenderer=" 
com.theriabook.controls.CheckBox"
> > > rendererIsEditor="true" 
editorDataField="value"
> > > textAlign="center" paddingLeft="5"

> > >
> > > 

Re: [flexcoders] Shouldn't we use Flex to built website

2006-06-30 Thread judah






I'm going to be a little abstract and off topic here but I think it's a
valid point. 

When a friend of mine and myself decided to write a game back in the
days of 386  and 486 machines the code we were writing would *barely*
run on the systems of the day. This is direct x 3 days. They just
weren't that powerful. And that was a real problem. But we weren't
writing it for the technology of today. It took a year to get through
and by that time new video cards and new processors came out and new
versions of direct x that all enabled it to run it. So the timing of
finishing an app and the technology also have to be considered. If you
look at and plan around the technology of the day then your work will
be shortsighted. 

When you take this in the Flash world you can see that people were
using Flex 2 beta to creates apps half a year ago in plans to release
them when FP9 was out. You can say, "Let's target Flash Player 8
because we can have it a few months early" or you can say, "Let's
target Flash Player 9 ActionScript 3, get it done quicker, have much
better features and speed but have it later." So you have a sacrifice
and decision. Patience pays off (if you can convince the client.)

So to sum it up, I wouldn't tell someone to limit their ideas too much
by the technology of today. In this case the speed of downloads. I
mean, I wouldn't go crazy but download speeds are much faster than they
have been in the past and every telco company and municipalities (and
even others like google) are working to bring high speed internet to
everyone. So I mean, I do understand what you are saying but keep in
mind these other things as well. 

Judah

Michael Hansen wrote:
Ted,
  
I've had the same thoughts for quite awhile. The techniques you
describe could be used for making an awesome CMS system. 
  
The only problem is the initial file size. A typical MXML applications
start off with a fairly high initial download size before _any_ viewing
of content. Users _hate_ this. They wanna start reading from the get
go, just like the HTML load stack allows. It's the small things that
pisses people off I'm afraid. 
  
You probably know this, but Roger (of Adobe) has begun some work on
shared resource injection (as far as i rememeber)
which i've yet to read through. But still, as long the framework code
is a big blob there no way to implement a HTML load stack, right?
  
  
Looking forward to see some postings from you. 
  
cheers
  
 -michael
  
  
  On 6/28/06, Ted Patrick <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  





I need to post a few examples but you can use Flex as a very
powerful
templating engine for large content sites. I am evaluating a technique
that provides seamless search engine support, restful urls
(del.icio.us),
rich presentation, and API RIA like interactivity.
Basically you have 1 Flex SWF file that provides the site template and
based on the URL loaded, the Flex SWF is injected with HTML/XML/URL/AMF
data based on the page.

The idea is to cleanly separate presentation from the data that drives
the page itself. HTML and AJAX force you into delivering a server merged
data/design to the client where Flash Player/SWF can merge the
presentation/data tier on the client side. Plus with E4X you can bind
controls to the injected XML/Data for very powerful interactive
templates.

1. Load HTML/XML Page with SWFObject DIV Overwrite.
2. Inject HTML/XML/URL/AMF into Flex SWF Template
3. Layout the data in Flash Player interactively. The SWF here might
support many States, Components, Panels, Forms that simplify user
interaction.
4. Restful URLs that allow for bookmark support and inner interactivity.

One of the key advantages is that you can skin a complete site by
changing one file. Once cached loading time is minimal and typically as
fast or faster than transferring a large quantity of HTML with images,
etc.

If anyone is interested in working on formalizing this design with me in
the community, I am wide open to suggestions.

Free your mind, Flex 2 can be anything you want it to be. You can use it
in the small (Widgets), in the large (Application), or somewhere
inbetween.

What is funny is that this solution actually delivers the promise that
XML/XSL tried to deliver a few years back but with layout containers,
controls, states, and interactivity.

Regards,

Ted Patrick
Flex Evangelist
Adobe Systems Incorporated






  
  
  
  



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Re: [flexcoders] Developing RIA book

2006-06-30 Thread judah




According to Barnes & Noble order system the book
"Delivering Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex 2 by Steven Webster" is
supposed to be out today. I have had it on order for a while now. So
just to be sure, you're saying this has just been started and it
*won't* be out for a while, correct? Not to pin a date on it or
anything but do you have any time estimates? 

Thanks,
Judah
PS IMHO I'd rather
have an awesome book that takes longer than a rushed book, with errors
and vague concepts. 

Steven Webster wrote:

  
  
  Arnold,
   
  Thanks for your question; if
your intent is to take code and type it in verbatim as examples, you'll
find lots of things won't compile from Flex 1.0 to Flex 2.  However,
our intent in writing the book was always to articulate concepts and
principles more than code, and I hope that much of that will still be
considered relevant by the community.
   
  It is our remit to update the
book for Flex 2, but that effort is only just about to be undertaken.
   
  I'd suggest that the book will
definitely get you off in the right direction, and I'd hope it'd be of
value to you.
   
  Best,
   
  Steven
   
  
  

  


  

  
  
  
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Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications)
Adobe Consulting
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Subject: [flexcoders] Developing RIA book



Hi!

As a newcomer to Flex, I was wondering if it is wise to buy the book
"Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex"? AFAIK this book was
made for flex 1.0 to 1.5, while the most up to date version of Flex is
2.0. Are these versions of Flex so much different?




  



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Re: [flexcoders] Camera Vs Scanner in Flex

2006-06-28 Thread judah
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

tinywhistles wrote:
> Hi
>
> Like Camera.GetCamera() to read images from a locally-attached camera, 
> is there a similar way to read images from a Scanner?
>
> Any clues?
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Re: [flexcoders] Large scale app, how to proceed?

2006-06-28 Thread judah
Hi Dude,

I'll do my best to answer a few of your questions.

mthielman11 wrote:
> Hello everyone.  I have beeen following flex for quite sometime during the 
> beta process. I 
> am currently beginning work on a large scale web based application.  We are 
> basically 
> migrating several different apps, some web based, some java based, to a new 
> platform.  
> We have spent the last couple of months exploring a JSP based solution 
> running on Resin 
> and connecting to a java based API with MySQL on the back end.  I am now 
> considering 
> flex.
>
> The app is a medical management based app that will consist of several 
> different modules 
> which all provide different, though related funcitonality.  Things like 
> browsing a medical 
> claim, enter a medical bill.
>
> I have a couple questions.
>
> 1.  IS flex well suited for large, multi module apps?  Can it provide any 
> real advantage or 
> JSP?
>   
Yes. Flex was built to scale to the conditions you describe. It also 
uses a new ActionScript Virtual Machine AVM1 in Flash Player 9 that is 
extremely fast.
> 2.  Is the application just one big MXML file with many states or lots of 
> little MXML files?  
> Or a combination of some kind, such as each module is an MXML with different 
> states?
>   
Depends what is being built. What I have seen that works, is that you 
have one main application mxml page and numerous other mxml components 
or mxml files. There is documentation being written now exactly on how 
to go about this. There is also a thing called Cairngorm that has a sort 
of setup already created for large scale enterprise level apps that you 
can use to get "right to it" so to speak.
> 3. IS FDS the best way to interact with a java API or are there other ways?
>
> 4. HOw do I run the app?  Can it run on resin?  I see it can be deployed as a 
> WAR file but 
> have yet to figure out how to do that.
>   
You publish to a SWF file and upload that a server. The SWF is embedded 
in an HTML file. The SWF file makes calls to to myriad of services on 
the server similar to how a form is submitted in html. Flex also uses 
addtional protocol called ActionScript Message Format or AMF if you 
will. AMF allows for highly compressed and extremely fast communication.

A lot of additional resources are coming out as soon as next week. I'm 
talking about books here. There are already new articles daily online. I 
am confident that Flex will be the best tool for the job.

Judah
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Re: [flexcoders] FB2 :: Switchig Workspaces

2006-06-28 Thread judah
Hi Mike,

Glorious day! :)

FB2 is a full version of Eclipse. It is just Adobe's own distro (think 
of the many Linux distros). So you can have all your features, plug-ins 
and everything else and not lose any functionality. I think the goal of 
making Flex Builder a plugin was so that everyone who has already been 
using Eclipse doesn't have to change their existing setup.

I think an Adobe personnel would have to tell us if they hard wired 
anything in their distro. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Judah

Michael Schmalle wrote:
> See this is the thing;
>
> I'm not using the plugin, never used Eclipse for Java and haven't used 
> Ant. Just swallowing to many things at once. I have Eclipse installed 
> and used the plugin for beta2 but, since I mainly use FB2 for 
> component development I didn't see a need for the full meal deal.
>
> Am I wrong here? I asked this question awhile ago and remember someone 
> saying that if you need certain things from Eclipse, use the plugin. I 
> really am not an Application dev, so I didn't see the need.
>
> As far as I see it now with the standalone, using different workpsaces 
> limits all the different projects that I don't want to look at given 
> my current component development set.
>
> Peace, Mike


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Books

2006-06-26 Thread judah






Delivering
Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex 2 by Steven Webster is supposed
to be out June 30th. The link is to the Flex 1 book. The new version is
not yet on the site. 

Macromedia Flex Builder 2 Training from the Source by Peach Pit Press
is supposed to be out Aug 18th. 

The Amazon and Barnes & Noble online databases weren't up to date
as of last Friday so you will have to ask your local B & N or do a
search for them to find these items. 

Judah


Chris Velevitch wrote:

  Here is a list of known (but yet to be released) Flex 2 books:-

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/059652689X
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596526954
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596526962
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/032142316X
http://www.riabook.com/

Are there any others?


Chris
  



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Re: [flexcoders] Can Flex record audio locally?

2006-06-26 Thread judah






Does Red 5 fit anywhere into this picture? http://www.osflash.org/red5

Judah

Carlos Rovira wrote:
AFAIK, with Flex 2 you can only transfer data and not
video/audio through RTMP. If you want other capabilities like streaming
video/audio, you still need FMS2...it's normal because in other way
FMS2 would not have too much sense if Flex 2 could do anything ;)
  
  
  On 6/26/06, Jeremy Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  






I've been wanting this for several years now (probably right after I
quit using Director) and the answer is still a firm *NO*.

But may be Apollo can bring some new possibilities ?

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  I've looked
into this same idea pretty
extensively, and I have not been able to come up with a solution
(without the
use of Flash Media Server).  My thoughts are that there has got to be a
way to
extend the NetStream class to get access to the actual data stream from
the
microphone object.  Unfortunately, there is nothing in the API that
gives you
the slightest hint of how to do this.  
   
  
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  Hi all:
Drupal is looking to create a project that will allow users to record
audio locally and then upload that audio to the server. Does Flex allow
developers to record audio to shared object and store it locally?
  
I think the answer to this is no and that developers need Flash Media
Server to record video and audio, but I just want to make sure.
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Shouldn't we use Flex to built website

2006-06-24 Thread judah
I heard that too. I'd like to know why for one and two, what happens if 
we are caught using it for that anyway?

Judah
PS just between you and me (and the 4000 other members on this list) i'm 
probably going to use it for that anyway. so...shhh... (holds finger 
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[flexcoders] Enjoyed this article on Flex 2 (Cynergy Systems)

2006-06-24 Thread judah






I really
enjoyed this article and where it was going.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/frontback_pt1.html

What is the status on part two? Or did I miss the link?

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Re: [flexcoders] Please Adobe. Unanswered questions, and building the community

2006-06-22 Thread judah
I'd give it a bit more time. Having a beta schedule makes it difficult 
with the full release coming up. On the betas I've been on the support 
and questiong answering has always been spotty. This is because the 
state the program is in. Bugs need to be queued, tested and then 
confirmed before an answer can be given. Features are still floating 
around. Once they get out of beta I think things will settle down.

Personally, I think they are doing a great job, but I know you've had 
questions unanswered. The solution may be to wait and see until after 
Flex 2 is released, reword the question over and over breaking it down, 
or on the Adobe side have additional community TSR's (technical support 
reps) on this list (which if they do add more I hope they'll announce 
it). I've been to Barnes & Nobles every week checking and I know of at 
least 3 new Flex 2 books coming out and two ActionScript 3 books in the 
next few months. One is coming out next week. These will hopefully 
answer a lot of questions.

Best Regards,
Judah

sourcecoderia wrote:
> IMHO a community is not at all built this way, any answer is better 
> then no answer. For developers we ask a question if it goes without 
> response we think either they are ignoring the question, can't be 
> bothered, or it's a bug. Since the first thought is that they can't 
> be bothered we continue to try and find a solution to the problem, 
> until completely frustrated. 
>
> Theses things are very important (to me at least) when choosing to 
> switch from a dot net development environment to something such as 
> flex. I've been working with flex for a year now, and of course I'm 
> very happy with it, however I feel that the community involvement 
> from adobe is rather lacking. 
>
> You can't hope to build a solid community that supports it self, we 
> are not the experts, you are. We need your help, and you need our 
> help. But; the communication, and participation in the building of 
> the community has to work both way's. I've answered far more 
> questions then I have had answered, I participated in the alpha 
> testing, I've reported bug's in this forum. All this I'm very willing 
> to do, and continue doing. However your community support people 
> could at least take the time and read the question, and either 
> confirm it as a bug, not possible, or give an idea of where to look. 
>
> I'm not unhappy with Flex, I'm rather impressed and energized. 
> Learning a new language, and platform is difficult, and time 
> consuming. 
>
> Why are there no tutorials except the few you have done to get people 
> up to speed, where is all the learn by example stuff, tips, general 
> community building. Surly you can invest in some full time community 
> support personnel.
>
> Flex is moving Adobe into a developer realm, as apposed to the 
> designer realm. I think if you hope to convince the developer realm 
> (a more demanding task) community involvement from Abode needs to be 
> greatly increased. A couple blog entries a week will not do it. A 
> couple of questions answered here, and there will not do it. We need 
> to see that your behind us, that you want to help us succeed with 
> your product, that you continue to listen, and that you're doing 
> everything humanly possible to help get us up to speed. 
>
> Flex has the potential to be more then just some other platform. In 
> order to go head to head with MS, and unlock the dedicated developer 
> community they've built, you need to greatly increase your community 
> involvement.
>
> Hopefully in posting this I've not managed to get on the spam/ignore 
> list of all Adobe support :)
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> Here are some example things with no response, I'm sure if asked, 
> every person in this forum could repost at least 1 or 2 unanswered 
> questions. Any answer is better then none.
>
> Garbage collection and removeChild [Flex 2 beta 3]?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/40262
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> E4X Interpreter:
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Re: [flexcoders] Design Pattern books for AS3 and Flex 2

2006-06-21 Thread judah
fyi, i stopped by the bookstore and found design patterns for dummies. 
it seems to be language nuetral too up until the examples which are in 
java. i read through the first two chapters and it was very easy to 
understand

http://www.amazon.com
search "design patterns for dummies" by steve holzner

judah wrote:
> Are there any design pattern books coming out in the near future that 
> talk about design patterns with ActionScript 3 or Flex 2?
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: [flexcoders] Design Pattern books for AS3 and Flex 2

2006-06-20 Thread judah






i wanted to go to that! thanks, i found the link to the book by danny
and joey on amazon. 
i'm including it for future readers of this thread
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321426568/ref=sr_11_1/104-0583550-8675930?%5Fencoding=UTF8

i ordered the head first design patterns book in the meantime. :)



Alan Shaw wrote:

  Danny Patterson and Joey Lott have an AS3 design patterns book
coming out this summer from Adobe.  They presented parts of it at
FlashBelt last week, and it's going to be a must buy.
   
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know about flex as 3 specifically, but worth checking out
O'Reilly's "Head First Design Patterns"

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HTH

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judah wrote:
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[flexcoders] Design Pattern books for AS3 and Flex 2

2006-06-20 Thread judah
Are there any design pattern books coming out in the near future that 
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Re: [flexcoders] MovieClips in AS3

2006-06-19 Thread judah






to Adobe employees,

To quote that link to the blaze post,
We also decided to take this opportunity to do something that we've
never been able to do before. We're planning to release a very early
alpha build of BLAZE publicly to all Flash Professional 8 or Studio 8
customers that will allow Flash developers to use ActionScript 3.0 and
compile to Flash Player 8.5. We plan to release this public preview
alpha release of BLAZE in the Spring of 2006 when Flash Player 8.5 is
released. We're doing so in order to give developers who use the Flash
authoring tool a chance to start learning ActionScript 3.0, migrate
existing projects, and slowly transition to the new language.

I purchased or should I say upgraded to Studio 8 last month. I emailed
Adobe support about two weeks ago about getting an alpha of Blaze and I
never got a response. I could guess a number of legit reasons for not
getting a response, but I'd rather not guess. What is the status on
Blaze and can developers still get an alpha of it? Thanks

Judah


Hilary Bridel wrote:

  Ok,
  I did some more research.
  You cannot programmatically make AS3 movieclips.
  Ali Mills has a blog post with a workaround using
localconnection until Blaze
is available
   
  http://www.asserttrue.com/articles/2006/05/16/library-type-assets-in-actionscript-3-0-using-assets-created-with-current-releases-of-flash-authoring
  
  
 
  Thanks Ali...
   
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Weyert, that's correct.
If I cant do it with a flash 8 swf, how can I make a flash
9/AS3 movieclip so I can use it in Flex with gotoAndPlay etc.
The AS3 docos say that you can only manipulate AS3 movieclips.
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: newbie: deploying

2006-05-31 Thread judah






Hi Joe,

You need to copy out the js files in the bin directory:

AC_OETags.js
history.htm
history.js

I didn't see where the list of these are (I know they are in the help
somewhere) but upload these and try it again. 

Judah

josulliv101 wrote:

  Hi,
I don't have any pointers to any files outside the domain (just 3
local xml files)  so I thought I did not need crossdomain.xml? Is this
correct?

-Joe


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Joe - do you have a crossdomain.xml file on your server?
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14213

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  Hi,
When I view my flex 2 beta 3 app via the flex builder build button
(viewing it locally), I can see my application fine. But when I move
the files to the real server I cannot get it to work.

Does anyone know a good intro tutorial for me to get this thing
  

  
  working?
  
  

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex2B3 :: SWFLoader :: Using an Application and sizing issues

2006-05-24 Thread judah






I'm not Adobe but I saw this code in a thread further down. 
Then in as:
mySwf.content.gotoAndPlay(10);

So you could conceivably use (off the top of my head):
mySwf.content.size(myWindow.width, myWindow.height);

You could add a listnerer to the content that listens for the window
resize event and run that code inside of it. 

Judah

Michael Schmalle wrote:
Hi,
  
I am using a resizable window to load swf content. When I use the
SWFLoader, I understand about scaling and things. Looking at the
source, I really don't see a way that the component sizes itslef to a
'fluid' app.
  
How can I get my window to size the application swf inside the loader,
when my sizing logic is actually sizing the "SWFLoader instance"? Well,
I think I know a way but, I am asking if it is possible before I waste
time trying.
  
So the problem is 'treating a loaded Application.swf as a quasi
component when loaded that can resize fluidly".
  
There are a couple layers to this loading and contentHolders so Adobe,
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Re: [flexcoders] FB2B Flex Builder extensions and plugins

2006-05-23 Thread judah






Thanks guys,

I am glad to hear the extension points are going to be kept in (from
what I gather at david z's site). 

Judah

Michael Schmalle wrote:
Thanks Matt,
  
That blog is very enlightening and it's nice to know there is something
we can follow.
  
Just his 'Quick Fix' plugin was enough to make the trip worth it ;-)
  
Peace, Mike
  
  On 5/23/06, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  



I believe
the extension API will does have
some documentation in the help.  At least I can see it in my current
build, so there
may be some in Beta 3.  I know that the eng team is planning on
releasing more
unofficial docs post-release to cover anything we fail to get.  Keep an
eye on
David Zuckerman's blog for example (http://www.davidzuckerman.com/adobe).
 
Matt
 



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Flex Builder extensions and plugins



 
Judah,

This is to early in the morning for you! Whats going on? ;-)

Search the archives, I asked the same question about plugins and
somebody
replied with an Eclipse book that is all about plugins. I really don't
think it
is 'easy' but, I know it can be done.

Adobe, you also say you have extension API's which I have seen but, are
you
releasing any docs or have any that could get us 'interested in
extensions' a
first step or direction?

Peace, Mike

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I
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The Adobe site says
that Flex Builder 2.0 can
be installed as a standard 
desktop application or as a plug-in to the Eclipse 3.1 IDE. If it is 
installed as a standard desktop application does it lose any support
for 
plug-ins?

For example, can I make a plug-in or panel for the Flex Builder IDE? Is

there any documentation on this?

Thanks,
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Re: [flexcoders] FB2B Flex Builder extensions and plugins

2006-05-23 Thread judah






awesome! time to read those eclipse plug in docs! 

Till Schneidereit wrote:

  The stand alone version of FB2 is pretty much a customized distribution of Eclipse based on (at the moment) Eclipse 3.1.2, so you get all the functionality and extensibility of Eclipse.
The major difference is that many of the features that come preinstalled with the default distribution of Eclipse (the JDT, for example) aren't bundled with FB2, while the Flex Builder feature is.

Bottomline: If you plan on working with more than just Flex in the same IDE, you're probably better off choosing the plugin. If on the other hand, you pretty much only do Flex based stuff anyway, you should use the FB2 distribution.

cheers,
till

judah wrote:
  
  
The Adobe site says that Flex Builder 2.0 can be installed as a standard 
desktop application or as a plug-in to the Eclipse 3.1 IDE. If it is 
installed as a standard desktop application does it lose any support for 
plug-ins?

For example, can I make a plug-in or panel for the Flex Builder IDE? Is 
there any documentation on this?

Thanks,
Judah



  
  
  



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[flexcoders] FB2B Flex Builder extensions and plugins

2006-05-23 Thread judah



The Adobe site says that Flex Builder 2.0 can be installed as a standard 
desktop application or as a plug-in to the Eclipse 3.1 IDE. If it is 
installed as a standard desktop application does it lose any support for 
plug-ins?

For example, can I make a plug-in or panel for the Flex Builder IDE? Is 
there any documentation on this?

Thanks,
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment

2006-05-19 Thread judah






In the Flash world there is:

FlashCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've
looked everywhere else first
FlashNewbies - questions for newbies
http://www.figleaf.com/Community/listserv.cfm
ExtendFlash - questions related to JSFL, XML2UI, Commands, Behaviours,
Timeline Effects and Tools
http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extending-flash-mailing-list/

These lists served there purpose great. I could get nearly any question
answered from these three lists except when it came to component
development. There was nothing for that and it was really missed. 

I wouldn't mind if we do the same thing for Flex and add a
component/framework development list to the list where we can ask about
list components (eh hehe - couldn't resist):

FlexCoders - questions related to coding in flash - usually you've
looked everywhere else first
Flex2Coders - i really want to add a flex 2 list but only if the adobe
people would join
FlexNewbies - questions for flex newbies
FlexExtension - questions related to extending the flex ide, flex
components or flex framework

Maybe something like that???

Judah



Tariq Ahmed wrote:

  
I've actually quietly made some new Flex mailing lists; I've let it
simmer while waiting for Flex 2 to become final. I don't think too
granular of lists works well as there's too much overlap in a lot of
things. But I do see one problem arising with one super list like this
- not only are the spectrum of topics vast, now you got to content with
two major versions of the language in use (1.5 and 2), and so you'll
have to do a lot prefacing of context in every single message.
  
So... to alleviate that, I created the following:
  
Flex 2- General :: General discussion regarding anything Flex 2.
  http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-General
  
Flex 2- Coldfusion :: Topics regarding Flex to CF integration
  http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-CF
  
Flex Builder 2 :: Discussion regarding the IDE, debugging, design,
etc
  http://groups.google.com/group/Flex2-Builder
  
  
Flex Jobs :: Recruiters welcome!
  http://groups.google.com/group/FlexJobs
  
  
  
  
Tim Hoff wrote:
  
I agree with you.  It might be beneficial to
have a separate list for component/framework related threads.  It's
probably cumbersome to weed through the development questions and
answers some times.  I personally joined this list because I was led
here by a link at Adobe and the list description was applicable to my
Flex usage.

  The flexcoders mailing list is for enterprise
software developers, developing Rich Internet Applications using
Macromedia Flex. The list will discuss methods and practices for Flex RIA development, including MXML and
ActionScript 2.0, as well as best-practices including testing, design
patterns, J2EE and .NET integration, etc.

However, imho this is a two-way street. 
Application developers learn and benefit from component/framework
threads.  And conversely, some component/framework
developers appreciate the feedback from developers that are using Flex
to create real enterprise solutions.  I am slowly but surely digging
deeper into the Flex framework and its advanced concepts.  So for me,
it's good to have both sides in the same place.
Just my thoughts,
Tim Hoff
  
  




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Re: [flexcoders] Using amf0 in f2b3

2006-05-18 Thread judah






In the same interest of sharing helpful amf stuff I found this article
helpful:

http://t8design.com/weblogs/?p=14

Xavi Beumala wrote:
Hi there,
  
I've thought some of you would also be interested on this topic, so
I've published a lass which allows you to work with amf0 through f2b3.
  
You can get it at 
http://www.code4net.com/archives/000119.html
  
Hope it helps
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Re: [flexcoders] Inline Design View Rich Text Editing - where?

2006-05-16 Thread judah






hi manish,

any plans for this? sorry i am not very clear on this. i am not talking
about the rich text editor component. i am talking about rich text
editing in the flex ide at design time. like in flash, you add static
textfields to the stage in the flash ide. you can then double click on
that static textfield and select a single word and make it bold, then
select the next word and make it italic all in the same static
textfield. 

judah

Manish Jethani wrote:

  On 5/16/06, Anant Gilra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
 The RichTextEditor does exactly that.  is available in
Flex2. (Are you using Flex 1.5?)

  
  
He's referring to design-time rich text editing (i.e. he wants to
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Re: [flexcoders] Wanted - A simple WSDL example

2006-05-16 Thread judah



Thanks guys. I got it to work.

judah wrote:
> I am looking for an super simple working example of an WSDL. I tried to 
> get the one in the help files working and I get no response success or 
> fail. I've spent a day working on this and found out the wsdl url is 
> fake and found plenty of other WSDLs online, looked at the xml but get 
> fail response on all of them.
>
> heres the article in the help file i'm looking at:
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex20beta3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Parts&file=0700.html
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Re: [flexcoders] Wanted - A simple WSDL example

2006-05-15 Thread judah






That is an awesome link. I will use that. My problem is getting them to
work in Flex. This is really a newbie question but I don't know how to
take that information on that site and put it into Flex. I've looked at
the help, I've tried to apply it and I cannot see what I'm doing wrong.
I'm pulling out my hair (insert hair pulling emoticon here).

Here is my code:

"http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml">
    
       
wsdl="http://www.jasongaylord.com/webservices/zipcodes.asmx?wsdl"
    result="successfulCall();"  fault="errorCall();"
    useProxy="false">
  
    
    
    {zipCode.text}
    
    
    
   
    
    
    


    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
    
    




John C. Bland II wrote:
Anytime I need to look at or test a wsdl I always go to xmethods.net.
  
  
  On 5/15/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
  

I am looking for an super simple working example of an WSDL. I
tried to 
get the one in the help files working and I get no response success or 
fail. I've spent a day working on this and found out the wsdl url is 
fake and found plenty of other WSDLs online, looked at the xml but get 
fail response on all of them.

heres the article in the help file i'm looking at:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex20beta3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Parts&file=0700.html



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[flexcoders] Wanted - A simple WSDL example

2006-05-15 Thread judah



I am looking for an super simple working example of an WSDL. I tried to 
get the one in the help files working and I get no response success or 
fail. I've spent a day working on this and found out the wsdl url is 
fake and found plenty of other WSDLs online, looked at the xml but get 
fail response on all of them.

heres the article in the help file i'm looking at:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex20beta3/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Parts&file=00000700.html


Judah

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Re: [flexcoders] Inline Design View Rich Text Editing - where?

2006-05-15 Thread judah






Hi David,

In Flash you have the TextField in the toolbar. You drag that textfield
to the stage and then you can highlight and select certain words and
format them. You probably have about 20 different formatting options.
In Flex there is no toolbar with a textfield control on it. You can add
a text input, textarea or label component to the stage and double click
on it and a simple single text field appears but there are no options
to format the text. 

So any formatting that I do I have to do I do by hand in the mxml
source code inside a text tag or if I'm there is a lot of formatting
I'll go into Dreamweaver, format it and then copy and paste it into the
mxml Text tag. But I heard that they are going to improve the inline
text tool. I just want to know where they are at and what to expect. 

Judah

David Harris wrote:

  Hi,

there is a 
Is this what you mean?

On 5/16/06, judah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
 Hi Adobe,

 I'm not sure if I missed it or not but I do not see any rich text
 editing tools in the Flex Builder 2.0 IDE. If there aren't any at this
 time are there any plans to put something in before final release?

 I know Flex is for creating RIA's but I'm running into cases/places in
 my app where I'd like to format text information. What I'm doing now is
 jumping into Dreamweaver to edit html text that I then copy and paste
 inside a textarea htmlText tag. I'm not complaining. Flex has some
 killer features. What I want to know is if I should I fill out a feature
 request.

 Judah

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[flexcoders] label htmltext property bug?

2006-05-15 Thread judah



I saw a link to a known bugs page but I can't seem to find it now.

I don't know if this a bug in the htmlText property of the label 
component. This doesn't show up for me.

http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml" 
layout="absolute" fillColors="[#ff, #ff]">
    
    
    
    
    


If I put the text all on one line, right after "CDATA[",  then it does 
show up.

Judah

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[flexcoders] Inline Design View Rich Text Editing - where?

2006-05-15 Thread judah



Hi Adobe,

I'm not sure if I missed it or not but I do not see any rich text 
editing tools in the Flex Builder 2.0 IDE. If there aren't any at this 
time are there any plans to put something in before final release?

I know Flex is for creating RIA's but I'm running into cases/places in 
my app where I'd like to format text information. What I'm doing now is 
jumping into Dreamweaver to edit html text that I then copy and paste 
inside a textarea htmlText tag. I'm not complaining. Flex has some 
killer features. What I want to know is if I should I fill out a feature 
request.

Judah

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[flexcoders] FB2B3 - Submitting data - Newbie

2006-05-14 Thread judah



I've been trying to get either of the two "Submitting data to a Server" 
examples to work and I'm not getting any response, either success or 
fail. When I run it the browser status bar says, "Looking up 
weather.unisysfsp.com" and nothing happens. I thought if I put the 
example on a production server that might do the trick but that causes 
the app to not even show up (blank screen)???

The example code is from here and I've included it below:
Flex Applications > Using Layout Containers > Form, FormHeading, and 
FormItem layout containers > Submitting data to a server
http://127.0.0.1:54417/help/topic/com.adobe.flexbuilder.help/html/0700.html

Any help for this newbie is appreciated. :)

Judah

Code:

http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml">
    
    
wsdl="http://weather.unisysfsp.com/PDCWebService/WeatherServices.asmx?WSDL"
    result="successfulCall();"  fault="errorCall();">
  
    
    
    {zipCode.text}
    
    
    
   
    
    
    


    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
text="{WeatherService.GetWeather.result.CityShortName}"/>
    
    




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[flexcoders] FB2B3 Installation Question

2006-05-10 Thread judah






On the FB2B3 standalone complex
download page there is this notice. 

Important: If you have used an
earlier
release of Flex Builder 2.0, you must completely uninstall Flex Builder
2.0 AND
delete your project definitions before installing and using beta 3.
Please see
the installation
instructions for more information.

Are the project definitions the .project files? That link above doesn't
give
anymore information. I just moved the projects out of the Flex
directory so I
could get this installed. What files do I need to delete and how should
I get the projects going in FB2B3? (eclipse newbie)

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: FB2B3 - Source code

2006-05-10 Thread judah






Thanks Scott

Scott Romer wrote:

  Take a look in:
\Flex Builder 2.0 Beta 3\Flex SDK 2.0\frameworks\source


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I've just downloaded the Flex Builder 2 Beta 3 and I'm having

  
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the typical locations but do not see it. Can someone tell me where

  
  this is?
  
  
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[flexcoders] FB2B3 - Source code

2006-05-09 Thread judah



I've just downloaded the Flex Builder 2 Beta 3 and I'm having difficulty 
finding the source code that I heard was going to be in it. I looked in 
the typical locations but do not see it. Can someone tell me where this is?

Judah

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Re: [flexcoders] Are there any Flex Seminars coming up

2006-05-01 Thread judah






There was a overview of Flex 2 by Jesse Warden last week that was
really good (http://www.gotoandstop.org/meetings.htm). You could have
attended in person or online. They have the recording up if you want to
watch it. The only problem in this video is when he starts to show his
desktop (showing Flex Builder and such) a lot of the video dropped out.
You can still hear the audio.

But if you are past the overview stage then you're only options are
attending classes (cfunited.com). Macromedia has a some good videos
online but they sort of target key features and glaze over the actual
process. 

I would really like to see another presentation where someone would
walk through creating a simple website with some design and thought
behind it. Sort of a beginners guide, best practices as well. Maybe
using Cardhouse or Carnies or whatever it is. 

Judah

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   have sort of hit a brick wall with Flex I am trying to self
teach myself with a book which is fine except I think I could learn a
lot more. I believe Flex to be very useful I just want to make sure I
can get everything out of it so I can help others. I live in Atlanta
Georgia if there are any Seminars on the subject of Flex near me let me
know, also I do not mind flying out to go to one if there are any. Also
if there are any near Hartford Connecticut let me know
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[flexcoders] Repost: Drag from Tree to List

2006-04-19 Thread judah






This was originally posted as "Drag from Tree, drop to List?". 
---
Hi Paul,

Could you check into some possible bugs for me? When I test this code
the drag separator appears to jump around when dragging inside the
tree. For example, drag the "Sent" folder up and down the Tree and
watch the location of the drag separator. 

Also, there seems to be a couple of times that it does not drop into
the correct location. For example, run the project and drag and drop
the "Inbox" node below the "Sent" node. In my tests it is being placed
below the "Trash" node. 

On a design side (feature request), I can see the need to be able to
drop "into" a list row, such as when someone wants to drag and drop a
file into a folder. 

Best Regards,
Judah Frangipane
PS I'm reattaching the code below:


    "http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"
xmlns="*" layout="absolute" creationComplete="initApp();">
        
            
                
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                
                
                
                
            
        
        
                showRoot="false"
                labelField="@label"
                dragEnabled="true" dropEnabled="true"
                allowMultipleSelection="true"
                creationComplete="initApp();"/>
        
            
                
            
        
        
            
        
    



Paul Williams wrote:
 
 
I think you
will need to write event
handlers to allow the list control to accept items from a tree control.
In
addition to the docs, there’s a sample chapter on the labs with some
good
drag-and-drop tutorials:
 
 
 
http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_Framework:tutorials:tfts_drag_drop
 
 
 
See below
for a very simple example based
on your code (flex 2 beta 2).
 
 
 
Paul
 
 
 

 
"http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"
xmlns="*"
layout="absolute" creationComplete="initApp();">
 
   
    
 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   
   
        
 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   

 

 
  
 
   

 
   
showRoot="false"
 
   
labelField="@label"
 
   
dragEnabled="true"
dropEnabled="true"
 
   
allowMultipleSelection="true"
 
   
creationComplete="initApp();"/> 
 
 
 
   

 
   

 
   

 
   
  

 
   

 
   
        
 
   
    
 
   

 
   

 
   
 
 
    
 

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex framework: ARP, Cairngorm... Which to use?

2006-04-19 Thread judah






What I want to know is how do you say it? Is there history behind the
name? 

Judah

Steven Webster wrote:

  Oh man, I write a 6 page article series and still people go on and on
and on about ViewLocators :)  We innovated the ModelLocator pattern in
Cairngorm, and have done our best to communicate the practices around
using the ModelLocator, over ViewLocator (a relic from our Flash RIA
days).

Cairngorm and ARP are both implementations of the same design patterns;
so the approach in terms of breaking down your application's technical
architecture over a microarchitecture will be very similar.  You'll
start thinking in terms of all the same concepts, you'll approach your
application development the same way.  The frameworks are more similar
than different, imho.

We took a very strategic decision with Cairngorm, only to support the
Flex framework; the framework started life in the Flash world, but we
believed that Flex would become the defacto technology for building RIAs
of any complexity that merits a microarchitecture, and so have made
conscious decision not to support back to Flash or any other Flash
platform technologies.  In that way, we can focus on leveraging the Flex
framework without concering ourselves deeply with how this translates to
the non-Flex world.  We do have developers using Cairngorm on Flash
projects - but that's not the expected use-case.

There's a 6-page article series on Cairngorm on Macromedia Devnet,
starting here:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/cairngorm_pt1.html

We'll continue to make these articles available to you through devnet,
and through blogs, to enable you to be successful in building more
complex RIAs upon this architecture, and to guide you in how we think
the architecture fits with new features of the Flex framework, be that
States, Internationalisation, Flex Data Services, etc.

If you follow that article series, you'll be ready in a few hours to
start building RIAs today, with Flex 2 and ActionScript 3.0, on
Cairngorm.  As we start to move through the final betas, and into
release of Flex 2.0, a number of us within Adobe Consulting are
absolutely committed and ready to ship the community updated versions of
Cairngorm as required - we're using it on a significant number of our
own Flex 2.0 projects here, and are a step ahead of the public beta
programs that you have access to.

There's a huge number of people on the flexcoders list successfully
using Cairngorm; so once you have more specific questions, I'm sure
we'll be able to help you in your application development.

Good luck !

Best,

Steven

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  If you are coming with Flash, stick with ARP.  If you want to learn 
something new, try Cairngorm as it has a VeiwLocator.  Most Flex 
developers utilize Cairngorn, but both know what a Command, 
  

Delegate, 


  ServiceLocator, and ModelLocator is so the lingo is very similiar 
since they have a lot in common.

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:11 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex framework: ARP, Cairngorm... 
  

Which to use?


  
Arp? Cairngorm? ...?

A little of you light on this matter would be appreciated.

I've been using ARP for a while with Flash projects. I've read that 
migrating would be as easy as change the ArpForms to MXML 
  

forms. So it 


  sound very promising.

By the other hand, I've heard Cairngorm is more wide-spread between 
programmers.

The thing is I think I have to decide now wich to use, as I will be 
programming a new RIA on Flex and would like to ensure it's quality 
from the begginning :)

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Loading an SWC into Flex 2 Beta 2

2006-04-18 Thread judah






It sounds like you are saying they are making a Flex 2 loader that will
load Flash 7, 8 and Flex 1.5 swfs. Is that what you mean?

Judah

JesterXL wrote:

  Agreed.  We all tried to actually create a Yahoo Maps SWF in Flash 8, and 
then load the SWF into a Flex 2 Loader (component or flash intrinsic class), 
but no dice.

They are making one though, so maybe if we bitch more, they'll make it come 
out faster!

- Original Message - 
From: "Harris Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Loading an SWC into Flex 2 Beta 2


Thanks for the reply Jester... that stinks that things like the Yahoo
Maps component can not be imported into Flex 2.  I tried importing
the SWC directly *and* creating a new SWC with the MXP and obviously
didn't have any luck with either approach.  I am sure support from
Yahoo will be coming in the future, but it would be nice to have it
now!

Thanks man,

~harris

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It needs to be created & compiled in Flex 2 Beta 2.  Flex 1, Flex

  
  1.5, Flash
  
  
MX 2004, and Flash 8 SWC's will not work in Flex 2 Beta 2

  
  projects.  That's
  
  
because Flex 2 Beta 2 utilizes ActionScript 3 and the Flash Player

  
  8.5
  
  
whereas the others do not.

- Original Message - 
From: "Harris Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Loading an SWC into Flex 2 Beta 2


Has anyone had success importing a 3rd party SWC into a Flex 2 Beta

  
  2
  
  
project?  I have tried two different components and each time I get

  
  the
  
  
following error:

"unable to load SWC componentnamehere.swc: unknown element swc

  
  found in
  
  
componentPackage section in catalog.xml."

Does anything special need to be done to the SWC to make it

  
  compatible
  
  
with Flex 2?

thanks,

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Re: [flexcoders] Drag from Tree, drop to List?

2006-04-18 Thread judah






Hi Paul,

Could you check into some possible bugs for me? When I test this code
the drag separator appears to jump around when dragging inside the
tree. For example, drag the "Sent" folder up and down the Tree and
watch the location of the drag separator. 

Also, there seems to be a couple of times that it does not drop into
the correct location. For example, run the project and drag and drop
the "Inbox" node below the "Sent" node. In my tests it is being placed
below the "Trash" node. 

On a design side (feature request), I can see the need to be able to
drop "into" a list row, such as when someone wants to drag and drop a
file into a folder. 

Best Regards,
Judah Frangipane
PS I'm reattaching the code below:


    "http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"
xmlns="*" layout="absolute" creationComplete="initApp();">
        
            
                
                
                    
                    
                    
                    
                
                
                
                
            
        
        
                showRoot="false"
                labelField="@label"
                dragEnabled="true" dropEnabled="true"
                allowMultipleSelection="true"
                creationComplete="initApp();"/>
        
            
                
            
        
        
            
        
    



Paul Williams wrote:

  
  

  
  
  
  I think you
will need to write event
handlers to allow the list control to accept items from a tree control.
In
addition to the docs, there’s a sample chapter on the labs with some
good
drag-and-drop tutorials:
   
  http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_Framework:tutorials:tfts_drag_drop
   
  See below
for a very simple example based
on your code (flex 2 beta 2).
   
  Paul
   
  
  "http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml" xmlns="*"
layout="absolute" creationComplete="initApp();">
     
   
  
     

     

     

     

     

     
   
        
     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  
    
     

     
showRoot="false"
     
labelField="@label"
     
dragEnabled="true"
dropEnabled="true"
     
allowMultipleSelection="true"
     
creationComplete="initApp();"/> 
   
     

     

     

     
  
  
     

     
       
  
     
   
  
     

     

     

  
      
  
  


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[flexcoders] Sharpen after smoothing

2006-04-07 Thread judah
I was looking at the final quality of the Bitmap.smoothing property on 
an image and I thought it would look great to have the option to 
"sharpen" the image after it was smoothed. Is this something that can be 
added or will it be too cpu intensive?

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Re: [flexcoders] Special Thanks to Matt Chotin

2006-04-05 Thread Judah Frangipane
Jonathan Miranda wrote:
>
> So, funny little story….my boss is attempting to understand some Flex 
> and started running through the tutorials here: 
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flex/2/Flex2_beta2_Hands-onTutorials.pdf
>  
> - which I recommend to everyone, it’s a great little document. Now my 
> boss was working specifically with the BlogReader example and he 
> quickly sends me an email with the output:
>
>
>
> The email and congratulations I got from my boss was priceless J 
> Thanks Matt for entertaining me with that post and always being a 
> great help on the boards – you don’t get enough credit for the posting 
> you do.**
>
>

I ageee, Matt rocks for developer relations!

Peace, Mike

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