Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread Ahti Aintila
Stig and Jim,

Dale is telling the plain truth, if your main interest is getting your
signal through in noisy conditions and DX pileups. The basses convey
very little speach information, but eat up the limited power of your
transmitter. Unless you want to broadcast a Hi-Fi music program on ham
bands use a good quality multi-channel equalizer to attenuate the
lower frequencies of your modulation. And if you want real information
carrying audio punch, you may use a PROPERLY MADE compressor or even
RF clipper. However, never use compressors and/or clippers, if the the
basses are not attenuated.

Almost four years' time already I have tried to convince our Flex
software wizards and gurus to implement an integrated audio processor
that would enhance the speech signal intelligibility in noise at least
as well as explained in the following ancient articles. Sorry for
this repeated use of the bandwidth, but please, please, read carefully
and understand these:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/filtclip.pdf
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/speechproc.pdf

My understanding is that these functions can be implemented by the DSP
means much more elegantly than 30 years ago by the hardware means. I
sincerely hope that some of our software experts would take my request
seriously.

73, Ahti OH2RZ


On 04/06/07, Dale Boresz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stig,

 I think your power meter is misrepresenting your power levels. I suspect
 that you are not using a peak-reading power meter, and that your power
 meter's ballistics are such that it averages the peaks more efficiently
 at the low audio frequencies than it does at the midrange and upper
 frequencies, thereby making it appear that when you boost the low end,
 you're getting extra talk power. Most likely, all that you are doing is
 concentrating the bulk of your transmitted energy into a very narrow
 range of frequencies that are in fact chewing up a lot of power and
 inflating your meter reading, but actually reducing your 'talk power'.

 The panadapter of the SDR-1000 has been a very interesting tool for me,
 as I have noticed may stations that have as much as a 20 to 30 dB peak
 at the low end of their transmitted frequency range (say around 40 to 70
 Hz) and are showing S9 on the meter. However, the part of their signal
 which is actually carrying the intelligibility is in fact averaging
 around S4. (S9 minus 30 dB). If the excessive peak was removed (the
 lower frequencies would remain - they just would not be boosted so
 much), the remainder of the audio passband could be amplified all that
 much more, such that the average of the remainder of the passband
 carrying intelligibility would in fact really average out to S9 instead
 of S4. Note though: Unless you are using a true peak reading power meter
 (something like a Coaxial Dynamics 83000-A) or an oscilloscope to
 monitor peak power, it will look as though you are transmitting at a
 much lower power level since the actual peaks will not be properly
 displayed. Attempting to drive everything harder to make the power meter
 read higher will result in a very distorted and severely over-driven signal.

 73, Dale
 WA8SRA

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[Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread FlexRadio KB Admin
To all current and perspective Flexers,

We are always striving to add new forward thinking capabilities, features
and technologies to the www.flex-radio web site in order to keep in step
with the always improving PowerSDR software and the SDR transceivers offered
by FlexRadio Systems.  Due in large part to the creative and inventive work
of Dale, WA8SRA, we are now able to offer Interactive Virtual Tours (IVTs)
of FlexRadio Systems products.  

With this new technology, we are able to use mouseovers to spawn different
types of content from a web page.  This can be as simple as a fly over
text box or more active content such as audio or video.  The first IVT web
page published is of the FLEX-5000A back panel.  Placing your mouse over a
connector will provide a description of the connector's function.  Some of
the fly over text boxes have secondary links to other web sites to provide
more detail about the connector or it's purpose.  You can view IVTs from the
Products menu on the web site or use this URL to go directly to the
FLEX-5000A back panel IVT.

http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_bpnl.aspx

One operational note.  The IVT web page doesn't render the dynamic content
using the Firefox web browser.  It works best with Internet Explorer or
Opera.  We hope to have the Firefox issue resolved shortly.

In the near future we will have IVTs for the PowerSDR console (with audio),
the insides of the FLEX-5000, the back panel of the SDR-1000 and others.  It
will take a little time for the volunteers to put these pages together, but
we are working diligently on getting them done.

We are also planning on using this technology to create visual how to
guides for operating different features of PowerSDR.  We are very excited
with this new way of presenting active content to our valued users and
potential new users and hope you enjoy it as well.


-Tim, W4TME

FRS KB Administrator

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Re: [Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread FlexRadio KB Admin
No, actually FlexWire is a completely different and new hardware
communication interface based on I2C (pronounced: I squared C) bus rather
than the old X2 connector.  It allows an intelligent device to communicate
bi-directionally with PowerSDR and the radio hardware.  You can read more
about I2C here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C2%B2C

The UCB will need to be modified to talk to the I2C bus and I believe that
as soon as the FLEX-5000 is released, work will begin on that.

For all other devices that just pull pins to ground to make things happen,
this functionality is not in the FlexWire interface and an external
controller (peripheral) will need to be developed to mimic that
functionality.  


-Tim, W4TME

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Flanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

Very nice, Tim.

Is the FlexWire Peripheral Interface Bus connector compatible with existing
devices like the UCB? Is this just a new name for the old 15 pin connector
on the SDR-1000?

Jerry W4UK

At 09:02 AM 6/4/2007, FlexRadio KB Admin wrote:
...  You can view IVTs from the
Products menu on the web site or use this URL to go directly to the 
FLEX-5000A back panel IVT.

http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_bpnl.aspx
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[Flexradio] mouseovers

2007-06-04 Thread FireBrick
Back Panel with it's informative mouseovers...very nice and informative
Front Panel, no matter how I turned the monitor.kind of blah looking.


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Re: [Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread Jerry Flanders
Very nice, Tim.

Is the FlexWire Peripheral Interface Bus connector compatible with 
existing devices like the UCB? Is this just a new name for the old 15 
pin connector on the SDR-1000?

Jerry W4UK

At 09:02 AM 6/4/2007, FlexRadio KB Admin wrote:
...  You can view IVTs from the
Products menu on the web site or use this URL to go directly to the
FLEX-5000A back panel IVT.

http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_bpnl.aspx
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[Flexradio] NB/NR for AM

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Monnier
Many of us use the SDR 1000 for AM operation. Unfortunately for us the noise 
blanker and noise reduction functions of Power SDR have little or no effect 
on noise levels when used in the AM mode.

I find the same noise limiter functions work very well for other modes and 
wish the same advantages could be applied to AM.

I have searched the Feature Request list for any indication of previous 
requests. If any requests have been made, I haven't found them. I wonder 
what the rest of you think.

I would also like to know how to list a Feature Request. Thanks.

Mike 


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[Flexradio] Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-44

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Homsley
Is anyone using a Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-44?  Do you plug
it into the SDR-1000 front panel or the sound card?  Does it require a
pre-amp?  Also, which adapter is required?

 

Thanks,

Tom N4WBS

 

 

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[Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread Lee A Crocker
One thing I would add is that the flex wire allows for line leve audio both in 
and out as well.  I don't know of any other radio that has such a feature




   

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[Flexradio] SDR-1000_Hardware_Manual_v3.8.pdf

2007-06-04 Thread Bernhard . Stralka
Hi,

Bought  the SDR-1000  this year.

Concerning the hardware, I have the SDR-1000_Hardware_Manual_v3.8.pdf 
That manual sceems to be  out-of-date.
It does NOT contain the RFE-board. So especially for the RFE-board I have 
the RFE_v1.4a_Schematics.pdf

Fine, but even that is not fully correct, as it is not containing those 
both ECOs
ECO-001 - Protection Diodes for the SDR-RFE Board – 8/17/04
ECO-025 RFE Preamplifier Upgrade – 7/15/2005

Strange affair. You buy a tranceiver, get not suitable schematics in the 
box and if want to download them,
it sceems, that they do not to fit to the electronic, that has been 
supplied.

Did I look at the wrong place? Is there some newer Relase as the Version 
3.8 available ?

73 de DK9NW Bernhard




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Re: [Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread Chris Maukonen
Lee A Crocker wrote:
 One thing I would add is that the flex wire allows for line leve audio both 
 in and out as well.  I don't know of any other radio that has such a feature


Neither do I. Which is why I have had to in the past mod
my previous rigs to add this functionality. Pain in the butt.

WA4CM
Chris

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Re: [Flexradio] New Interactive feature on the web site

2007-06-04 Thread Jerry Flanders
I don't know the voltage level, but my 756PRO3 has fixed low level 
audio in and out that is voltage compatible with sound cards.

My old FT847 has a fixed in for digital modes IIRC- I think it has an out also.

Jerry W4UK

At 10:25 AM 6/4/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote:
One thing I would add is that the flex wire allows for line leve 
audio both in and out as well.  I don't know of any other radio that 
has such a feature


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Re: [Flexradio] Scratchy CW sidetone when using a bug?

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Sounds like a buffer size issue to me.  Have you set the FA-66 buffers to
minimum?  What Audio Buffer size are you using in PowerSDR?


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Kallal
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:40 PM
 To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] Scratchy CW sidetone when using a bug?
 
 I have a Vibroplex bug that I've been using with the SDR-1000. The problem
 is a scratchy sidetone. This same bug does NOT has a scratchy sidetone on
 my
 ICOM 756 PRO II. It didn't sound scratchy on 746 PRO at my local HRO
 store.
 A local friend of mine did NOT hear scratchy dits on my signal when I was
 using the SDR-1000 with this bug.
 
 If I set the ramp in setup up to 20 ms or higher (25 is the max), most of
 this goes away. I don't have the problem on the built-in keyer via the
 rear
 jack unless I reduce the ramp to a real low value.
 
 The bug is connected to a COM port built into my PC. I also can use a
 straight key on the COM port. It doesn't sound scratchy unless under
 normal
 use, but will sound scratchy if I lightly tap it.
 
 I operate no faster than 16 wpm. I don't know how a high ramp value will
 affect the transmitted waveform. I don't want to use a high ramp value
 just
 to make the sidetone sound more pleasant.
 
 I suspect the overwhelming number of CW ops use a keyer, either internal
 or
 external, with the SDR-1000. Again, the scratchy sidetone is NOT present
 on
 a couple of ICOM rigs. I suspect is has more to do with the quirks of the
 SDR-1000. It is rather annoying. I'd like to solve this one. How do I know
 if it is really the bug or the rig? Perhaps I want to use a separate
 sidetone separate from the one in the rig.
 
 BTW, I am using the FA-66 sound card at 48000 (mostly for better DSP
 options
 such as sharper filters). Changing the sample rate doesn't seem to make a
 difference. The PowerSDR version is v1.8.0.
 
 73,
 
 Steve N6VL
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Can't seem to make PowerSDR start up on secondarymonitor

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Wachsmann
I believe the issue is that we are now checking the boundaries of the
primary screen to make sure that if you were running at say 1600x1200, and
then switch to 800x600, that when you launch the application, it is not off
the screen.  

I'll have to see what can be done to handle the multiple monitor scenario.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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 Subject: [Flexradio] Can't seem to make PowerSDR start up on
 secondarymonitor
 
 Normally, programs start up on the monitor they were last used and closed
 on.
 Sometimes you can force this, by holding down the Shift key when closing a
 program.
 
 So far, none of those tricks has worked and PSDR alsways starts on the
 Primary monitor.
 
 If anyone knows how to do it...please tell me.
 Or I'll put it in the 'feature request' page.
 
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[Flexradio] Accessories for SDR-1000

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Homsley
So far I've read that I need to buy the following for my new SDR-1000.  It
would be good to put a list in one place.

 

1.  Astron SS-30 power supply 
2.  100 watt dummy load (I have an MFJ-949E) 
3.  Mic (Heil PR, GM or HM-10 recommended); maybe a pre-amp with
Delta-44 ??
4.  Parallel 25-pin cable (Is it included? It's hard to find these any
more) 
5.  Is the USB cable better? 

 

Have I missed anything?

 

Thanks,

Tom, N4WBS

 

 

 

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Re: [Flexradio] NB/NR for AM

2007-06-04 Thread Frank Mayer
Obviously the NR does not work on AM but I find the NB to be quite effective on 
AM
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Monnier 
  To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:17 AM
  Subject: [Flexradio] NB/NR for AM


  Many of us use the SDR 1000 for AM operation. Unfortunately for us the noise 
  blanker and noise reduction functions of Power SDR have little or no effect 
  on noise levels when used in the AM mode.

  I find the same noise limiter functions work very well for other modes and 
  wish the same advantages could be applied to AM.

  I have searched the Feature Request list for any indication of previous 
  requests. If any requests have been made, I haven't found them. I wonder 
  what the rest of you think.

  I would also like to know how to list a Feature Request. Thanks.

  Mike 


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Re: [Flexradio] Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-44

2007-06-04 Thread Ray Andrews
Tom,

I am using the Heil ProSet Plus with the Delta-44 card.

I found that it does need a pre-amp.  Otherwise, the mic gain has to be set too 
high  I get some instability.  I use an NCS Multi-Switcher to switch the 
headset between my SDR  my FT-847.  The Multi-Switcher includes a pre-amp for 
leveling the audio between different audio sources.

I use the Heil Yaesu adapter cable, plugged into the Multi-Switcher  the 
Multi-Switcher is plugged into the front panel connector on the SDR.

73, Ray, K9DUR

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Re: [Flexradio] Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-44

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Ellison
I just did a test with W2IHY's EQplus and it works great as a preamp for
my ProSet Plus! Headset. 


-Tim

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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-44

Tom,

I am using the Heil ProSet Plus with the Delta-44 card.

I found that it does need a pre-amp.  Otherwise, the mic gain has to be
set too high  I get some instability.  I use an NCS Multi-Switcher to
switch the headset between my SDR  my FT-847.  The Multi-Switcher
includes a pre-amp for leveling the audio between different audio
sources.

I use the Heil Yaesu adapter cable, plugged into the Multi-Switcher 
the Multi-Switcher is plugged into the front panel connector on the SDR.

73, Ray, K9DUR

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Re: [Flexradio] Accessories for SDR-1000

2007-06-04 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
On 6/4/07, Tom Homsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So far I've read that I need to buy the following for my new SDR-1000.  It
 would be good to put a list in one place.


I'm sure there is list on the Flex website somewhere, as I've seen it before.


 1.  Astron SS-30 power supply

Most all SS rigs these days need a power supply.  It's good to have
one anyway, as a lot of ham gear requires 12vdc suppiles.  I use an
Astron RS-35-M.

 2.  100 watt dummy load (I have an MFJ-949E)

All hams should have at least a 100 watt dummy load for tuning, etc..
off the air.  Mine is a Palstar DL2K.  Good for 2KW for about 60
seconds with the fan on.

 3.  Mic (Heil PR, GM or HM-10 recommended); maybe a pre-amp with
 Delta-44 ??

I use a PR-40 now, however I've used several different mics.  I would
get a pre-amp.  A low cost solution to that is the Behringer 802 for
about $50.  I have of people running some of the Heil's without a
preamp however.

 4.  Parallel 25-pin cable (Is it included? It's hard to find these any
 more)

Last I heard they still come with the rig...

 5.  Is the USB cable better?

So long as you have a High quality PCI parallel port, that will work
fine.  Eric knows of a good one.  I don't know about the USB
alternative myself.


 Have I missed anything?

You might consider getting some ferrite clamp on beads.  They can be
had from RF Parts, Radiodan.com, and Palomar.  They come in different
sizes for different size cables.  You can't have too many of these,
and they will really help if you encounter any RF in the shack.  I've
got them on all my interconnect cables just to be safe, and have no
RFI running the legal limit.

Good luck and have fun with your new SDR!

73
Brian / wa5am




 Thanks,

 Tom, N4WBS


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Re: [Flexradio] Can't seem to make PowerSDR start up onsecondarymonitor

2007-06-04 Thread Ray Andrews
Eric,

That is it exactly.  If I position the window somewhere on the primary monitor, 
shut it down,  restart it, it is positioned where I had it before.  However, 
if I position it on the secondary monitor, it comes up in the upper left-hand 
corner of the primary monitor  (coordinates 0,0) after a restart.  

Maybe you could make the check for off screen position optional, or, better 
yet, pop up a message box warning the user during start up that the window will 
be off the primary screen  asking if they want to proceed or move the window 
to the default position (0,0).  If you do this, I would prefer that you include 
a Do not ask this again check box.

Either way, if the user screws it up, they can always recover by renaming 
PowerSDR.mdb  creating a clean copy of the database.

73, Ray, k9DUR

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Re: [Flexradio] Accessories for SDR-1000

2007-06-04 Thread FireBrick

On 6/4/2007 10:22:55 AM, Tom Homsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 So far
 I've read that I need to buy the following for my new SDR-1000.  It
 would be good to put a list in one place.
 
 
 
 1. Astron SS-30 power supply
 2. 100 watt dummy load (I have an MFJ-949E)
 3. Mic (Heil PR, GM or HM-10 recommended); maybe a pre-amp with
 Delta-44 ??
 4. Parallel 25-pin cable (Is it included? It's
 hard to find these any
 more)
 5. Is the USB cable better?
 
 
 
 Have I missed anything?
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom, N4WBS

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[Flexradio] I2C

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Lux
At 06:45 AM 6/4/2007, FlexRadio KB Admin wrote:
No, actually FlexWire is a completely different and new hardware
communication interface based on I2C (pronounced: I squared C) bus rather
than the old X2 connector.  It allows an intelligent device to communicate
bi-directionally with PowerSDR and the radio hardware.  You can read more
about I2C here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C2%B2C

Is it actually I2C or just based on I2C?
And, is the interface exposed or documented?
(i.e. does the F5K essentially provide a 1394 to I2C translator of some sort?)
I assume the F5K is an I2C master?
Which speed is it running at? (10kHz,100kHz, more?)

I2C in it's bare form, designed to provide a low cost interface 
between TV remote control receivers and PLL tuners, and, more 
recently, for onboard interconnects, because it connects right up to 
the chip, tends to be a real ESD sensitivity problem causer.  Is 
there some sort of buffering/ESD protection?   There are a variety of 
industrial control kinds of products out there that use some 
variant of I2C. (i.e. using robust Optos to drive open collector 
drivers, while not necessarily meeting all the timing requirements of 
the Philips spec)

I know that Flex probably doesn't want to give away the store as to 
the internal design of the F5K, but it might be nice to publish what 
we call end-circuit-data-sheets that define what the circuitry is 
at the external interfaces, so you can design an appropriate 
connecting device.  Sort of like the diagrams in the TI TTL databook 
that show the totem pole output stage, but not the rest of the design.


For all other devices that just pull pins to ground to make things happen,
this functionality is not in the FlexWire interface and an external
controller (peripheral) will need to be developed to mimic that
functionality.

Such things are available off the shelf commercially (i.e. I2C to 
parallel port), usually using one of the standard ICs mounted on a 
small board with some surrounding parts and connectors.

(see, for instance, http://www.i2cchip.com/  I've never used their 
stuff, never heard of anyone who has, but it's an example of the kind 
of thing available).



Jim, W6RMK 



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[Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Lux
At 09:50 AM 6/4/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote:
The flex wire is a 2 wire plus ground bus that can control eproms 
rotors switches potentiometers and other devices in a 2 way fashion 
and it can also carry audio I/O on the same 2 wires plus ground.  It 
is not the same as a separate line level audio I/O.  If you had a 
flex wire going up your tower you could theoretically work DX while 
you were at the top.  The audio I/O on the 5K is also present


the flex-wire interface carries the audio, too?  Seems incompatible 
with a I2C style implementation

Jim 



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[Flexradio] I'm still a bit worried about my audio level

2007-06-04 Thread FireBrick
FA-66 Sample Rate 192000 AND BUFFER of 2048
VAC 4.6

I'm still a tad worried that I'm driving this too hard in PSK mode
In SSB I have it so it does not go too high.
But it looks like I may be wrong here.

10 meter PSK
tx gain is -3
this results in a power out of approx   18- 20 watts into a dummy load.
about -6.6dBm

I can lower the peak in the bandpass by lowering the TX Gain
but at a substantial loss of output power.

Almost exactly the same reading if in afsk rtty mode.


so here's the picture
www.qsl.net/w9ol/pskpic.jpg

Am I doing something wrong here?
it worries me that the signal peak if off the scale.


-
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing! 
-

Bill H. in Chicagoland
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Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread Stig Rasmussen
Hello, please stop this. :-)
I dont want any discussion around ESSB / and or DX-pileups modulation. Whats
best etc.
My point is only to state the fact that SDR-1000 handle bass-less modulation
much
less punchy than other traditional transceivers, f.example my TS-870 or
IC-746PRO.
Same power-meter used. Thats it! If there is an explanation I would like to
hear...

Stig

-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Ahti Aintila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. juni 2007 10:26
Til: Dale Boresz
Kopi: Jim McLester; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Stig Rasmussen
Emne: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch


Stig and Jim,

Dale is telling the plain truth, if your main interest is getting your
signal through in noisy conditions and DX pileups. The basses convey
very little speach information, but eat up the limited power of your
transmitter. Unless you want to broadcast a Hi-Fi music program on ham
bands use a good quality multi-channel equalizer to attenuate the
lower frequencies of your modulation. And if you want real information
carrying audio punch, you may use a PROPERLY MADE compressor or even
RF clipper. However, never use compressors and/or clippers, if the the
basses are not attenuated.

Almost four years' time already I have tried to convince our Flex
software wizards and gurus to implement an integrated audio processor
that would enhance the speech signal intelligibility in noise at least
as well as explained in the following ancient articles. Sorry for
this repeated use of the bandwidth, but please, please, read carefully
and understand these:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/filtclip.pdf
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/speechproc.pdf

My understanding is that these functions can be implemented by the DSP
means much more elegantly than 30 years ago by the hardware means. I
sincerely hope that some of our software experts would take my request
seriously.

73, Ahti OH2RZ





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Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

2007-06-04 Thread John P Basilotto W5GI
It simply is in the adjustments. Traditional amateur radios have
pre-emphasis in the audio, i.e there is a certain amount of bass already
there. The SDR1K is flat as a pancake. When you add bass, either externally
or with the built-in EQ, you are simply adding pre-emphasis. 

The SDR1k was designed to be flat just like a commercial broadcast
transmitter.

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
512-535-5266



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stig Rasmussen
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Ahti Aintila; Dale Boresz
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch

Hello, please stop this. :-)
I dont want any discussion around ESSB / and or DX-pileups modulation. Whats
best etc.
My point is only to state the fact that SDR-1000 handle bass-less modulation
much
less punchy than other traditional transceivers, f.example my TS-870 or
IC-746PRO.
Same power-meter used. Thats it! If there is an explanation I would like to
hear...

Stig

-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Ahti Aintila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 4. juni 2007 10:26
Til: Dale Boresz
Kopi: Jim McLester; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Stig Rasmussen
Emne: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch


Stig and Jim,

Dale is telling the plain truth, if your main interest is getting your
signal through in noisy conditions and DX pileups. The basses convey
very little speach information, but eat up the limited power of your
transmitter. Unless you want to broadcast a Hi-Fi music program on ham
bands use a good quality multi-channel equalizer to attenuate the
lower frequencies of your modulation. And if you want real information
carrying audio punch, you may use a PROPERLY MADE compressor or even
RF clipper. However, never use compressors and/or clippers, if the the
basses are not attenuated.

Almost four years' time already I have tried to convince our Flex
software wizards and gurus to implement an integrated audio processor
that would enhance the speech signal intelligibility in noise at least
as well as explained in the following ancient articles. Sorry for
this repeated use of the bandwidth, but please, please, read carefully
and understand these:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/filtclip.pdf
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/speechproc.pdf

My understanding is that these functions can be implemented by the DSP
means much more elegantly than 30 years ago by the hardware means. I
sincerely hope that some of our software experts would take my request
seriously.

73, Ahti OH2RZ





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[Flexradio] Heil ProSet with the SDR-1000 and Delta-4

2007-06-04 Thread James T. Rogers, W4ATK
Indeed I do use the ProSet with my SDR-1000.  I plug directly into  
the Delta 44 IN3.

The Yaesu Heil adapter with the pistol grip PTT will not work  
without some changes. Also you should be aware of the internal wiring  
between the front panel MIC jack and the rear panel MIC jack on the  
SDR-1000. A standard stereo cable from the 1/8 rear panel MIC jack  
to the 1/4 Delta 44 will not work, as provision has been made to  
isolate the audio from chassis ground through the SDR-1000

.The audio - (pin 7 of the front panel jack) is not common to ground  
rather it is connected to the RING of the rear panel MIC jack.
 The audio + (pin 8 of the front panel jack) does indeed connect to  
the TIP of the rear panel jack.
 The SLEEVE of the rear panel jack is at chassis ground.

With a mono plug such as on the ProSet, you will have to make some  
provision to complete the audio circuit.

73s Jim, W4ATK



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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Wachsmann
FlexWire does carry the audio, but it is on separate lines than the I2C.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim Lux
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:31 PM
 To: Lee A Crocker; Jerry Flanders; Flexradio
 Subject: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?
 
 At 09:50 AM 6/4/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote:
 The flex wire is a 2 wire plus ground bus that can control eproms
 rotors switches potentiometers and other devices in a 2 way fashion
 and it can also carry audio I/O on the same 2 wires plus ground.  It
 is not the same as a separate line level audio I/O.  If you had a
 flex wire going up your tower you could theoretically work DX while
 you were at the top.  The audio I/O on the 5K is also present
 
 
 the flex-wire interface carries the audio, too?  Seems incompatible
 with a I2C style implementation
 
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[Flexradio] Remote operaton

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Homsley
I live in a CCR 'hood but I have in-laws with a farm 1 mile away so I may
try remote.  Is anyone remote operating successfully on a regular basis for
day-to-day operation?

Tom, N4WBS

 

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[Flexradio] SDR-1000 availability?

2007-06-04 Thread Dave Haupt
I'm trying to wrap my brain around the SDR concept and
embrace it as a good main radio.  Competing in price
with my last car, the SDR-5000 is well beyond my
means, so I was scouring the flex-radio website for
pricing and availability of the SDR-1000.

Anyway, I was unable to find PA on the
SDR-1000...rather than a handy-dandy link on the front
page to quick pricing, I found a link to an online
store with little more than a search box.  The link
to transceivers contained just pricing for the
Flex-5000.  I tried every manner of search that my
feeble brain could conjure in the search box, but
could not find any pricing info for the
SDR-1000...only accessories.  Is the SDR-1000 NLA?

TIA,

Dave W8NF


   

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Wachsmann


 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:33 PM
 To: Eric Wachsmann; 'Lee A Crocker'; 'Jerry Flanders'; 'Flexradio'
 Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?
 
 At 12:56 PM 6/4/2007, Eric Wachsmann wrote:
 FlexWire does carry the audio, but it is on separate lines than the I2C.
 
 digital format?

[Eric] No.  Analog.

 audio?

[Eric] 1 input, 1 output.

 Connector pinout?

[Eric] I don't have that in front of me, but we'll get it on the web soon.



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Re: [Flexradio] Remote operaton

2007-06-04 Thread A.R.S. - W5AMI
On 6/4/07, Tom Homsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I live in a CCR 'hood but I have in-laws with a farm 1 mile away so I may
 try remote.  Is anyone remote operating successfully on a regular basis for
 day-to-day operation?


Tom,

I'm sure there are others here than can tell you more than I can,
however all I had to do was get a VOIP program, in my case IP-Sound.
Use Remote Desktop (comes with Windows and can be accessed via a
remote Linux box too) to see and control Power-SDR and have IP-Sound
for your audio to and fro.  In my case, it was a cinch to set up the
Flex for this.

Being an SDR rig, the Flex is an ideal candidate for remote operation
in my thinking, much easier than any other rig on the market.  I need
to get back on that project, as it's been a month or so since I played
with it, but I can almost assure you that you should have no problems
using the Flex remote from anywhere in the world once you get things
established locally.

I'll be interested to hear your progress on this...

73
Brian  wa5am

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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Lux
At 12:56 PM 6/4/2007, Eric Wachsmann wrote:
FlexWire does carry the audio, but it is on separate lines than the I2C.

digital format?
audio?

Connector pinout?


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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

2007-06-04 Thread Lee A Crocker
Guess I got my wires crossed

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To: Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee A Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jerry 
Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
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Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?

FlexWire does carry the audio, but it is on separate lines than the I2C.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim Lux
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:31 PM
 To: Lee A Crocker; Jerry Flanders; Flexradio
 Subject: [Flexradio] Flexwire carries audio?
 
 At 09:50 AM 6/4/2007, Lee A Crocker wrote:
 The flex wire is a 2 wire plus ground bus that can control eproms
 rotors switches potentiometers and other devices in a 2 way fashion
 and it can also carry audio I/O on the same 2 wires plus ground.  It
 is not the same as a separate line level audio I/O.  If you had a
 flex wire going up your tower you could theoretically work DX while
 you were at the top.  The audio I/O on the 5K is also present
 
 
 the flex-wire interface carries the audio, too?  Seems incompatible
 with a I2C style implementation
 
 Jim
 
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 availability?

2007-06-04 Thread Phil LaMarche

Dave, Go to WWW.qth.com and do a search.  I see one every other day from
people upgrading.  Good price and you know it will be working perfectly.
There is a mind shift going from a PRO3 to the Flex but once comfortable, I
wouldn't buy another rice radio.  I love it.

Phil 


 
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Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 availability?

I'm trying to wrap my brain around the SDR concept and embrace it as a good
main radio.  Competing in price with my last car, the SDR-5000 is well
beyond my means, so I was scouring the flex-radio website for pricing and
availability of the SDR-1000.

Anyway, I was unable to find PA on the
SDR-1000...rather than a handy-dandy link on the front page to quick
pricing, I found a link to an online store with little more than a search
box.  The link to transceivers contained just pricing for the Flex-5000.
I tried every manner of search that my feeble brain could conjure in the
search box, but could not find any pricing info for the SDR-1000...only
accessories.  Is the SDR-1000 NLA?

TIA,

Dave W8NF


   


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Re: [Flexradio] Can't seem to make PowerSDR start up on secondarymonitor

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Mumaw
I'm running SVN 1210 and a GeForce 6800 card with current drivers.
PowerSDR always starts up on the second monitor.

Mark NU6X



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Re: [Flexradio] Can't seem to make PowerSDR start up on secondarymonitor

2007-06-04 Thread Ray J
I have no problems with this..

  the window stays where i put it... the funny thing is the startup 
splash screen comes up in the main monitor then the SDR opens in the 
other monitor..

... windows xp pro with GeForce 7300gt graphics card..


W9RAY




Mark Mumaw wrote:
 I'm running SVN 1210 and a GeForce 6800 card with current drivers.
 PowerSDR always starts up on the second monitor.
 
 Mark NU6X
 
 
 
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[Flexradio] cw keying question

2007-06-04 Thread FireBrick
How come:
using cwx to send cw
Iambic must be off or the cw is wrong
but
Using a paddle connected to the key in jack
Iambic must be on and reverse paddles must be checked




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Re: [Flexradio] I'm still a bit worried about my audio level

2007-06-04 Thread Charles Greene
Firebrick,

I looked at your picture and didn't see anything unusual.  Your power 
output should be flat over the audio spectrum range and then some.  I 
don't know what you are doing, but something is wrong. How are you 
measuring power?  The meters in the PSDR Console are useless for 
making peak power.  Get a good true reading peak power meter or an 
old scope.  I use a Autec WM-1 Computing meter and it does read true 
peak power; there are a very few others.  I heard someone mention a 
Dawai with two needles that is labeled peak power, but I have one and 
it does not read true peak power.  Set your power control at 100 and 
control the power with the TX gain.  TX gain setting is only 
relative; a lot of things can affect it so it is not a good measure 
of anything so the value of the external meter.  Test the power at 
100 watts very briefly.  Then adjust it for 30 to 35 watts.  You can 
run less, but more will put the final in danger of damage.

73

Chas W1CG

At 02:19 PM 6/4/2007, you wrote:
FA-66 Sample Rate 192000 AND BUFFER of 2048
VAC 4.6

I'm still a tad worried that I'm driving this too hard in PSK mode
In SSB I have it so it does not go too high.
But it looks like I may be wrong here.

10 meter PSK
tx gain is -3
this results in a power out of approx   18- 20 watts into a dummy load.
about -6.6dBm

I can lower the peak in the bandpass by lowering the TX Gain
but at a substantial loss of output power.

Almost exactly the same reading if in afsk rtty mode.


so here's the picture
www.qsl.net/w9ol/pskpic.jpg

Am I doing something wrong here?
it worries me that the signal peak if off the scale.


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[Flexradio] Janus/Ozy/Atlas/Pinocchio/psu for sale

2007-06-04 Thread Bob Tracy
All,

It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that I'm not going to have time
to play with the HPSDR stuff I bought (and I have a Flex5000A on order) so
I'm putting it up for sale.  If anyone is interested, I'll bring the
equipment to Hamcom this weekend or I can ship it.

I have the following:

1  Janus assembled and tested (ESD package never opened)
1  Ozy assembled and tested (ESD package never opened)
1  Pinocchio kit (new in package)
1  Atlas (assembled by me and tested for proper LED function with power
supply but never tested with boards)
1  Atlas bare board (plus some excess resistors and capacitors from building
the first board, no connectors)
1  picoPSU-120 120 watt ATX power supply (used only to test the Atlas card
above)

Lot price $390 pickup or $400 shipped in CONUS only.

Contact me off reflector if you have any questions.

Bob K5KDN


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[Flexradio] New Digs for my SDR1000

2007-06-04 Thread john_eckert
Hi All,

While anxiously awaiting delivery of my new Flex 5000A I decided my
SDR1000 could use a new home.  I moved it from its humble apartment
into a nice duplex with wonderful neighbors.

Take a look:  www.exothink.com/OXDR   exothink.com/OXDR

73,
John
k2ox

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[Flexradio] New FlexRadio IVT added for the Front of the FLEX-5000

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Ellison
We have added a new Interactive Virtual Tour (IVT) web page to the IVT
collection.  You can now take a tour of the FLEX-5000 front panel.
Remember that these pages are best viewed using Internet Explorer.

http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_fpnl.aspx?topic=vt_flex5ka_fp

-Tim, W4TME

FRS KB Administrator

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[Flexradio] SDR5000 Microphone compatibility?

2007-06-04 Thread Jerry Flanders
Re:  New FlexRadio IVT added for the Front of the FLEX-5000 at
http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_fpnl.aspx?topic=vt_flex5ka_fp

The microphone connector is the ubiquitous standard 8-pin Foster 
connector found on just about every HF transceiver 

Good news.

Does its pinout match a microphone found in just about every ham's 
shack? There are probably tens of thousands of Yaesu/ICOM (maybe 
Kenwood also) mikes out here in the real world that were included 
with the rigs we already have. Same 8 pin connector, but will any of 
them work with the SDR-5000 without rewiring? Which ones?

Jerry W4UK


At 11:00 PM 6/4/2007, Tim Ellison wrote:
We have added a new Interactive Virtual Tour (IVT) web page to the IVT
collection.  You can now take a tour of the FLEX-5000 front panel.
Remember that these pages are best viewed using Internet Explorer.

http://www.flex-radio.com/Explore_f5ka_fpnl.aspx?topic=vt_flex5ka_fp

-Tim, W4TME



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