[Flexradio] Jack for Windows
Hi, Just in case this is not old news.. Sounds like it has potential.. Audio steering at the digital level. Anyone tried it? http://www.grame.fr/~letz/jackdmp.html 73, Fred WA8KCW ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] New radio
Lloyd, Great to hear.. Enjoy the new radio 73, Dudley WA5QPZ L&S Kubis wrote: > Just got delivery of my new Dell VOSTRO 400, Intel Quad Q6600 computer this > afternoon w/XP Pro (VISTA downgrade), ATI Video and firewire card, loaded > the Flex software and it worked right out of the box!! > I spent the night cruising the bands!! The best sounding HF rig I've ever > owned (Boise speakers really help) > Can't be any simpler!! > > Cheers! > Lloyd > VE3ERQ/VK4ERQ > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 > 6:00 AM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Thunderbird and PowerSDR...
Steve, Try a simple change in PowerSDR to see if it helps.. Raise the Priority in the Setup => General => Options menu.. Maybe even Real Time mode might get the PowerSDR console out ahead of the NIC.. Just a thought. 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Steve Kallal wrote: > I switched to Thunderbird from Outlook 2003 in hopes of using it with my > 5000A. Outlook always caused PowerSDR to hang. A simple stop and start > would bring PowerSDR back to life. > > Surprise! Thunderbird does the same thing. I download a LOT of email for > various reflectors. Perhaps that is what is causing Thunderbird to hang > up PowerSDR. > > A search of the reflector archives doesn't reveal any other users with > this issues. > > On the plus side, Thunderbird is much faster than Outlook for basic mail > retrieval. > > I am using XP Pro SP2 on a quad-core PC with 4 GB RAM. > > Oh well, Thunderbird has solved the problem. > > 73, > > Steve > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 > 6:00 AM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] SDR1000 on Vista
Jim, The sound card vendors were slow to come up with working drivers, but now there are drivers for the M-Audio and FA-66 sound cards.. You just need a PCI to Parallel port card to play well with the 1K. 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Jim Lux wrote: > Quoting Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:50:46 PM PDT: > > >> "If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista >> compatable/functional?" >> >> Here is the PowerSDR 1.x Compatibility Statement >> http://www.flex-radio.com/Support.aspx?topic=PowerSDR_Compatibility >> >> > > So... > > Flex really doesn't have much to do. They're not selling SDR1Ks any > more, so the fact that PowerSDR+SDR1K doesn't work with Vista isn't an > issue. > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 > 6:00 AM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio QSO Party!
What a fantastic idea. This is the first thing that has made me the slightest bit down that I will be in Dublin, Ireland that weekend! Bob ARRL SDR Working Group Chair Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. "Trample the slow Hurdle the dead" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison (W4TME) Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:19 PM To: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] FlexRadio QSO Party! The First Annual FlexRadio QSO Party will be held during the weekend of September 27-28. - Tim - FRS Internet Systems Administrator W4TME ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
To tell you how bad Vista is, most seem to have forgotten that XP was released with ten thousand DOCUMENTED bugs. Welcome to lala land of MS. I will never forget ME. My mother in law did not speak to me for a year after I installed it on her computer. Where can I buy ten more copies? ;-). Bob ARRL SDR Working Group Chair Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. "Trample the slow Hurdle the dead" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:41 PM To: flexradio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? No Tim, you are wrong. Millennium. What a buggy piece of work that was. I suffered through the beta. MS pushed that out the door knowing that it was horrible. Dave wo2x ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
Quoting Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:50:46 PM PDT: > "If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista > compatable/functional?" > > Here is the PowerSDR 1.x Compatibility Statement > http://www.flex-radio.com/Support.aspx?topic=PowerSDR_Compatibility > So... Flex really doesn't have much to do. They're not selling SDR1Ks any more, so the fact that PowerSDR+SDR1K doesn't work with Vista isn't an issue. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] HRFIO 34
Hello Tim, Jim, and All!!! I have never seen this type of support! Down loaded the firmware and re-calibrated the RX and all is well! This is a great group with not just the wealth of knowledge but the wealth to want to share the knowledge. Again, a big (Thank You) Ken K3YI Turning the lights out! - Original Message From: Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ken Danser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Flex Radio Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:47:24 PM Subject: RE: [Flexradio] HRFIO 34 You have to update the EEPROM with the board's new assembly number and revision. Download the following file and run it. http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=233 -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Danser Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:43 PM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] HRFIO 34 Hello All! I just installed the new HRFIO 34 board and I am getting the error (RFIO: error or not present). I deleted and un-installed all drivers and PowerSDR completely. I then reinstalled everything back on as usual and I am still getting this error. I looked in the PDF file on the installation of the new RX board, and also searched the Knowledge base files on Flex web site. I also took off the ribbon cable from the HRFIO 34 board and plugged it into the old HRFIO 27 C while just holding it and then restarted PowerSDR and everything was fine with the old one. (???) I am just not getting it!! Please bring in the experts!!! Thank you all, Ken K3YI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] FlexRadio QSO Party!
The First Annual FlexRadio QSO Party will be held during the weekend of September 27-28. FlexRadio Systems is excited to announce the first annual FlexRadio QSO Party Contest. This is a "friendly" contest where the objective is to make as many QSOs as possible on the standard contest bands using any mode. Making QSOs with operators using FlexRadio Systems' transceivers get you more points. For all of the contest details, please see the 2008 FlexRadio QSO Party Rules and FAQ located on the web site. http://www.flex-radio.com/Users.aspx?topic=FlexQSO_Party We will have a web based score submission page available for posting and updating your scores. There will not be any log checking since this is a friendly contest and all participants are on the honor system. If you can't access the web for score submission, you can download a score sheet from the web site and send it in for credit. http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=234 One web site feature you may not know about is the QRV Listing on the support web site. You can use this web feature to post when you plan to be QRV. This would be a great way to announce when you plan to be on the air so people will be able to find you more easily. Check it out. http://www.flex-radio.com/Qrv.aspx - Tim - FRS Internet Systems Administrator W4TME ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] HRFIO 34
You have to update the EEPROM with the board's new assembly number and revision. Download the following file and run it. http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=233 -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Danser Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:43 PM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] HRFIO 34 Hello All! I just installed the new HRFIO 34 board and I am getting the error (RFIO: error or not present). I deleted and un-installed all drivers and PowerSDR completely. I then reinstalled everything back on as usual and I am still getting this error. I looked in the PDF file on the installation of the new RX board, and also searched the Knowledge base files on Flex web site. I also took off the ribbon cable from the HRFIO 34 board and plugged it into the old HRFIO 27 C while just holding it and then restarted PowerSDR and everything was fine with the old one. (???) I am just not getting it!! Please bring in the experts!!! Thank you all, Ken K3YI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
For whatever Vista is, it is. I have been running the last three versions of Power SDR on it with no major problems, until the upgrades (for Vista came along). Now the Version 1.12.0 is running well. I expect Vista to be short lived. The question is, will MS pull a machine upgrade trick so soon as a result of their FUBAR. 73, Dale W4NBF - Original Message - From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "flexradio" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? > No Tim, you are wrong. > > Millennium. > > What a buggy piece of work that was. I suffered through the beta. MS > pushed > that out the door knowing that it was horrible. > > Dave > wo2x > > > > > -- > From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 PM > To: "Neal Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert McGwier" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? > >> Their last OS was MS-DOS >> >> >> >> -Tim >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:49 PM >> To: Robert McGwier >> Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? >> >>>From that web page >> >> >> >> 71% of Windows Vista customers liked it better than their last operating >> system >> >> Wonder what they are smokin'? >> >> Neal >> > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] XP Retired
Just got delivery of my new Dell VOSTRO 400, Intel Quad Q6600 computer this afternoon w/XP Pro (VISTA downgrade), ATI Video and firewire card, loaded the Flex software and it worked right out of the box!! I spent the night cruising the bands!! The best sounding HF rig I've ever owned (Boise speakers really help) Can't be any simpler!! Cheers! Lloyd VE3ERQ/VK4ERQ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Thunderbird and PowerSDR...
I switched to Thunderbird from Outlook 2003 in hopes of using it with my 5000A. Outlook always caused PowerSDR to hang. A simple stop and start would bring PowerSDR back to life. Surprise! Thunderbird does the same thing. I download a LOT of email for various reflectors. Perhaps that is what is causing Thunderbird to hang up PowerSDR. A search of the reflector archives doesn't reveal any other users with this issues. On the plus side, Thunderbird is much faster than Outlook for basic mail retrieval. I am using XP Pro SP2 on a quad-core PC with 4 GB RAM. Oh well, Thunderbird has solved the problem. 73, Steve ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
"If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista compatable/functional?" Here is the PowerSDR 1.x Compatibility Statement http://www.flex-radio.com/Support.aspx?topic=PowerSDR_Compatibility -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael M. Moore Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:17 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] XP retired? Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my element 4 on Sat. And want to play with the big kids now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode is needed for device drivers and do not want to wait for possible release to play. I m also cautious of laptops due to h/w limitations. 73 and thanks. Michael M. Moore N5RWH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] HRFIO 34
Hello All! I just installed the new HRFIO 34 board and I am getting the error (RFIO: error or not present). I deleted and un-installed all drivers and PowerSDR completely. I then reinstalled everything back on as usual and I am still getting this error. I looked in the PDF file on the installation of the new RX board, and also searched the Knowledge base files on Flex web site. I also took off the ribbon cable from the HRFIO 34 board and plugged it into the old HRFIO 27 C while just holding it and then restarted PowerSDR and everything was fine with the old one. (???) I am just not getting it!! Please bring in the experts!!! Thank you all, Ken K3YI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
No Tim, you are wrong. Millennium. What a buggy piece of work that was. I suffered through the beta. MS pushed that out the door knowing that it was horrible. Dave wo2x -- From: "Tim Ellison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:33 PM To: "Neal Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? > Their last OS was MS-DOS > > > > -Tim > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:49 PM > To: Robert McGwier > Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? > >>From that web page > > > > 71% of Windows Vista customers liked it better than their last operating > system > > Wonder what they are smokin'? > > Neal > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
Their last OS was MS-DOS -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:49 PM To: Robert McGwier Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] XP retired? >From that web page 71% of Windows Vista customers liked it better than their last operating system Wonder what they are smokin'? Neal On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Newegg still has it in stock. >> 73, Jim KQ6EA >> >> --- "Michael M. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? >>> If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista >>> compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be able to spring for a >>> 5000A by Feb. I passed my element 4 on Sat. And want to play with >>> the big kids now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit >>> multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode is needed for >>> device drivers and do not want to wait for possible release to play. >>> I m also cautious of laptops due to h/w limitations. >>> 73 and thanks. >>> >>> Michael M. Moore >>> N5RWH >>> ___ >>> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >>> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
While you can not buy an HP professional PC with XP through the distribution channel, you can get a free set of CD/DVDs from HP that installs XP. That replaces the pre-installed XP "downgrade" that was available until recently. Microsoft can now claim that Vista is selling like mad, even though the corporate market has not embraced it to a significant extent. I support over 100 PCs in my client base, and not one is using Vista. To a limited extent you can still order XP on some products ordered from HP on line. 73, Rob, NC0B >>> Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/22/2008 6:16 PM >>> At 04:46 PM 7/22/2008, Robert McGwier wrote: >http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx > >On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Newegg still has it in stock. > > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > As MS says... In industry speak, this is called "end-of-sales." On June 30, Microsoft will stop distributing Windows XP as a stand-alone product that you can buy shrink-wrapped in the store. We'll also stop sending it to Dell, HP, Lenovo and all the other major PC manufacturers to sell on their PCs. That said, Windows XP isn't going to disappear overnight. You may still see copies of the software-or computers pre-loaded with it-for months, as stores and PC makers work through their inventory. Also, smaller local PC makers-known in the industry as "system builders"-can continue to sell PCs with Windows XP until January 2009. Finally, Microsoft recently announced that computers with limited hardware capabilities-devices sometimes called Netbooks or ultra-low cost PCs (ULCPC)-can carry Windows XP Home until June 2010 As others have pointed out, this effectively means that Flex-radio will have to make an effort to get PowerSDR (or it's replacement) working on Vista over the next year, since it's not a great business strategy to sell a radio with operating software that requires something you cannot buy (a new computer with XP). One could do this in a very limited market (e.g. people sell power supplies for SB220s and old Collins HF rigs which have been out of production for decades), but, realistically, that's a garage scale operation, more like someone selling "repair parts" for Model Ts and the like. Flex is bigger than that. I don't see it being a big deal... tedious for Eric W. and the rest of the support crew at Flex, to be sure. Lots of issues will arise with folks doing upgrades to Vista on existing hardware (for which the odds of incompatibility and problems are orders of magnitude greater.. just like going from Win 3.x to NT), even though it's not really necessary to upgrade (after all, XP will be supported til 2014..). However, I expect people who don't have a dedicated computer and who upgrade other software will eventually find that they want to run Vista (because the new version of whatever only supports Vista). I would see some support issues, even if the New Architecture is totally cross platform functional, just because folks will want to stay with their old friend PowerSDR 1.x. Flex will have to make some decisions about what configurations they want to sell: since they won't be able to sell 5000Cs with XP after the end of the year, they could either sell PowerSDR 1.x on Vista or NA on Vista or NA on Linux. (I cannot conceive of trying to get PowerSDR running reliably in emulation or VM...) just my opinions.. Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex ( http://mail.flex/ )-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail ( http://www.mail/ )-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex ( http://kb.flex/ )-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex ( http://www.flex/ )-radio.com/ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpam&Id=ODExMjI6Njk3MDgwMTQ1OnJvYkBuYzBiLmNvbQ%3D%3D ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 04:54 PM 7/22/2008, Brian Lloyd wrote: >Well, you are back to to talking about implementation rather than >messages on the wire. Where do I have access to the wire? I have >access at the Firewire and I have access at the I2C bus. yes.. I assume that there's some standard way to do "MIDI over Firewire", since I don't think PowerSDR installs any special drivers for this, and it's a common enough thing in the music business that there is some default way to do it. Clearly Windows supports it in some way (and probably so does MacOSX) > Seems to me >that what needs to be done is to ensure that everything that one might >want to do is instantiated in messages over these two wires. The existing transformation appears to be pretty broad (albeit undocumented in the details).. There's just not a whole lot of scope in I2C messages, and the obvious cases are mapped into a pair of MIDI SysEx messages. >Most definitely. Again, think in terms of messages on the wire. Who >interprets those messages can change. Right now it could be an >external controller but if that function is then subsumed by code >running in PowerSDR or ??? it gets done there. The question is really do you want to play at the Firewire/Midi message level, or at the PowerSDR API level. The midi message level seems fraught with peril, since it has to play nice with the midi messages between PowerSDR and F5K. >As for extending PowerSDR, maybe extensions should be implemented as >little servers listening on the net and implementing pieces of the new >architecture. Then as things migrate you don't need to upgrade >everything at once. i.e. a "cat" interface that listens on an IP address, rather than a serial port. (I think that already exists.. doesn't it?) Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
At 04:46 PM 7/22/2008, Robert McGwier wrote: >http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx > >On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Newegg still has it in stock. > > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > As MS says... In industry speak, this is called "end-of-sales." On June 30, Microsoft will stop distributing Windows XP as a stand-alone product that you can buy shrink-wrapped in the store. We'll also stop sending it to Dell, HP, Lenovo and all the other major PC manufacturers to sell on their PCs. That said, Windows XP isn't going to disappear overnight. You may still see copies of the softwareor computers pre-loaded with itfor months, as stores and PC makers work through their inventory. Also, smaller local PC makersknown in the industry as "system builders"can continue to sell PCs with Windows XP until January 2009. Finally, Microsoft recently announced that computers with limited hardware capabilitiesdevices sometimes called Netbooks or ultra-low cost PCs (ULCPC)can carry Windows XP Home until June 2010 As others have pointed out, this effectively means that Flex-radio will have to make an effort to get PowerSDR (or it's replacement) working on Vista over the next year, since it's not a great business strategy to sell a radio with operating software that requires something you cannot buy (a new computer with XP). One could do this in a very limited market (e.g. people sell power supplies for SB220s and old Collins HF rigs which have been out of production for decades), but, realistically, that's a garage scale operation, more like someone selling "repair parts" for Model Ts and the like. Flex is bigger than that. I don't see it being a big deal... tedious for Eric W. and the rest of the support crew at Flex, to be sure. Lots of issues will arise with folks doing upgrades to Vista on existing hardware (for which the odds of incompatibility and problems are orders of magnitude greater.. just like going from Win 3.x to NT), even though it's not really necessary to upgrade (after all, XP will be supported til 2014..). However, I expect people who don't have a dedicated computer and who upgrade other software will eventually find that they want to run Vista (because the new version of whatever only supports Vista). I would see some support issues, even if the New Architecture is totally cross platform functional, just because folks will want to stay with their old friend PowerSDR 1.x. Flex will have to make some decisions about what configurations they want to sell: since they won't be able to sell 5000Cs with XP after the end of the year, they could either sell PowerSDR 1.x on Vista or NA on Vista or NA on Linux. (I cannot conceive of trying to get PowerSDR running reliably in emulation or VM...) just my opinions.. Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] DDUtil Announcement
Steve If you would be able to ALC the 5000 from my Tokyo Hi Power amp I would worship you as a God. The amp is severly limited without it. Jim K5HY > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:55 -0500 > CC: Flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] DDUtil Announcement > > I have a couple of things that may be of interest to some users. > > 1. DDUtil is currently being tested with Vista Home Premium (32 bit) and > appears to be stable so far. > > 2. I'm currently in the process of adding an adjustable WatchDog timer to > shut down the transmitter should it exceed the preset value. This should be > available in the next release (1.6.2). > > 3. ALC implementation is being looked into for feasibility. There are a > number of issues to be considered, but I don't see it being a FireWire > device. I would think a USB Dongle would be a better choice, at least in the > short term. If I can stay away from the Flex code I would rather at least in > its current incarnation. I do need help with the hardware design so if > anyone has any ideas please contact me off line. > > 73, > Steve K5FR > > http://k5fr.com/ddutilwiki/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DDUtil/ > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
>> It seems to me that the messages are more important than the >> interface. I have a number of different ways to talk to various I2C >> busses (I use I2C for IPC in our various robots). So for me, I would >> just want to know what the message format is. >> >> Is there are standard form for messages on the flexwire I2C bus? I am >> late to the party and I am certain you have probably thought of it. > > It would appear that although there are two API calls, one with 8 > bits of data, one with 16, they both map to the same MIDI message. > The address in the API call is a ushort, but I don't know if the F5K > implementation uses 7 or 10 bit addresses, or what speed it runs at. > From the comments in the PowerSDR code, it's not clear whether they > use the SMBus semantics, and, of course, the details of the MIDI > message to Flexwire I2C are buried in the (non-open) firmware inside > the F5K. All we can see is the MIDI message format, and infer what > the transformation is. Well, you are back to to talking about implementation rather than messages on the wire. Where do I have access to the wire? I have access at the Firewire and I have access at the I2C bus. Seems to me that what needs to be done is to ensure that everything that one might want to do is instantiated in messages over these two wires. >> That strikes me as the important thing as then anyone with any >> hardware that can speak to the I2C bus could code a control or data >> collection program. > > interesting idea you triggered... I2C is a multimaster bus.. once > you have I2C peripherals, you could control them either by having > the F5K send commands (as the result of appropriate API calls from > within PowerSDR, or, by painfully shooting MIDI messages out) or > from an external I2C master (for which there are "zillions" of PC > implementations).. then, when PowerSDR is enhanced or a suitable New > Architecture node is created, you could do away with your I2C > controller. Most definitely. Again, think in terms of messages on the wire. Who interprets those messages can change. Right now it could be an external controller but if that function is then subsumed by code running in PowerSDR or ??? it gets done there. As for extending PowerSDR, maybe extensions should be implemented as little servers listening on the net and implementing pieces of the new architecture. Then as things migrate you don't need to upgrade everything at once. > Actually, given that there isn't support for any FlexWire > peripherals in the current software (at least, greping for the word > "wire" doesn't find any), you might as well not bother connecting > them to the F5K. Just build your system and hope that when PowerSDR > does support FlexWire, it will have the necessary flexibility to be > configured for your peripherals. Well, what are the devices you want to control? What can you do with them? How do we expect to control these devices remotely? This seems somewhat similar to some of the network management problems I was working on a number of years back. My approach at that time was to have the devices themselves serve up their own management semantics to the management system. Sort of a, "hi, this is what I am and here is what you can do with me," architecture. That way the manufacturer of the device can extend its capabilities without requiring everybody to know ahead of time what it can do. (I always hated that we needed to write and compile a MIB and then add the code to do something with it. The coder had to know the semantics of the variable in the MIB which seemed to me to negate the value of the MIB in the first place -- well other than it defined what actually traveled over the wire and that was a plus. Still ...) Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
FYI - new XP Home computers are available in my local Wal-Mart. Saw some yesterday. Jerry W4UK At 07:16 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: >Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? If so is the >full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista >compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be able to spring for a >5000A by Feb. I passed my element 4 on Sat. And want to play with >the big kids now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit >multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode is needed for >device drivers and do not want to wait for possible release to >play. I m also cautious of laptops due to h/w limitations. >73 and thanks. > >Michael M. Moore >N5RWH >___ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
>From that web page 71% of Windows Vista customers liked it better than their last operating system Wonder what they are smokin'? Neal On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Newegg still has it in stock. >> 73, Jim KQ6EA >> >> --- "Michael M. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? >>> If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered >>> Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be >>> able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my >>> element 4 on Sat. And want to play with the big kids >>> now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit >>> multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode >>> is needed for device drivers and do not want to wait >>> for possible release to play. I m also cautious of >>> laptops due to h/w limitations. >>> 73 and thanks. >>> >>> Michael M. Moore >>> N5RWH >>> ___ >>> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >>> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Newegg still has it in stock. > 73, Jim KQ6EA > > --- "Michael M. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? >> If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered >> Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be >> able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my >> element 4 on Sat. And want to play with the big kids >> now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit >> multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode >> is needed for device drivers and do not want to wait >> for possible release to play. I m also cautious of >> laptops due to h/w limitations. >> 73 and thanks. >> >> Michael M. Moore >> N5RWH >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
Newegg still has it in stock. 73, Jim KQ6EA --- "Michael M. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? > If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered > Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be > able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my > element 4 on Sat. And want to play with the big kids > now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit > multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode > is needed for device drivers and do not want to wait > for possible release to play. I m also cautious of > laptops due to h/w limitations. > 73 and thanks. > > Michael M. Moore > N5RWH > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] XP retired?
There is "compatible" and "desirable". I am sure its compatible but not desirable! Go to www.pricegrabber.com and search for XP Home and I bet you can find some new OEM copies of XP in the $80 range! Neal On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Michael M. Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? If so is the full Flex > Radio suite now considered Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be > able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my element 4 on Sat. And want to > play with the big kids now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit > multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode is needed for device > drivers and do not want to wait for possible release to play. I m also > cautious of laptops due to h/w limitations. > 73 and thanks. > > Michael M. Moore > N5RWH > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] XP retired?
Was it June 30,2008 that MS "retired" XP from sales? If so is the full Flex Radio suite now considered Vista compatable/functional? Hopefully I will be able to spring for a 5000A by Feb. I passed my element 4 on Sat. And want to play with the big kids now ;-) I would prfur Linux (SuSE) but know 64 bit multi's are needed for processing, and 32 Bit mode is needed for device drivers and do not want to wait for possible release to play. I m also cautious of laptops due to h/w limitations. 73 and thanks. Michael M. Moore N5RWH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 03:20 PM 7/22/2008, Brian Lloyd wrote: >On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Frank Brickle wrote: > >>The CAT system is intended precisely to handle legacy software, so >>it's the >>right thing to be using in these situations. That will continue to >>be the >>case. >> >>Regarding MIDI control, it's very unlikely that the F5K MIDI ports >>will >>*ever* be opened up directly to user apps -- MIDI access to the F5K is >>handled separately through the Virtual interface, so the issues >>raised here >>are moot. > >Are the MIDI ports only reachable through the firewire? I guess if you >own that device you can enforce that. Essentially.. commands to F5K microcontroller are encapsulated in MIDI messages which are encapsulated in FireWire transport. It's exposed to the user application as a MIDI device with several possible names, enumerable by the Windows multimedia API call. "FLEX 5000","FLEX-5000 Midi", "FlexRadio Flex-5000", "FlexRadio Flex-5000 MIDI" PowerSDR just gets the list of devices using MidiInGetName, and uses the first one that matches one of the above names. There's a slightly different set of names for the output device: "FLEX 5000", "2- FLEX-5000 Midi", "FlexRadio Flex-5000", "2- FlexRadio Flex-5000 MIDI" I would imagine that any Windows application could enumerate and open the relevant (virtual) MIDI device and send all manner of messages... Someone who has a F5K could probably go into Windows Device Manager and find out what it enumerates as. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 03:10 PM 7/22/2008, Brian Lloyd wrote: >On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > >Wouldn't it have to? There is nothing in the MIDI message that >indicates its destination. Therefore, there is nothing the receiver >can do to route the message to its proper recipient. Whoever gets the >message must be the recipient or you need some sort of manual >configuration to route different messages based on command or content. >The music guys manage this with physical patching but that seems a bit >of a kludge for what we want to do here. There is a virtual equivalent of patching provided by the MM DLL.. Actually, MIDI note and controller messages do have an address (channel), although SysEx messages don't necessarily have this. There is a SubID described in the SysEx, but the F5K interface doesn't appear to use it. There IS an address for I2C, of course, and it's encapsulated in the MIDI message. Probably best to think of the MIDI link as just a "transport" between an API inside PowerSDR and the I2C interface on the back of the F5K, and ignore the fact that it happens to be MIDI. That is, work at the PowerSDR internal API level (or through an interface to that API exposed by CAT), and let everything below that be abstracted. Then it's just Send I2C word Receive I2C word ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database A script to import a CSV file into the bantext table
If you want to create a csv file of the bands then this script will import
it
Save the lines after this line to a file called ImportCSV.vbs in the same
dir as PowerSDR then create BandTest.csv and import
' importCSV.vbs
' This file should be placed in the same directory as the PowerSDR.mdb file
' The BandText.csv should also be in the same directory.
' Import Band info into PowerSDR.mdb from a csv file
' the csv file is called BandText.csv and is formatted as follows
'
' Low,High,Name,Transmit
' the following is an example line
' 0.153,0.279,AM - Long Wave,False
'
'
**
' This script will replace data in the BandText table the data from the CSV
file
'
**
'
' Add your own error handling if you want
'
' Backup you PowerSDR.mdb database by making a copy before you run this
script
'
Const adOpenStatic = 3
Const adLockOptimistic = 3
Const ForReading = 1
Set objConnection = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Set objRecordSet = CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
objConnection.Open _
"Provider = Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; " & _
"Data Source = PowerSDR.mdb"
' clear out the table we are going to copy to so we dont have duplicates
objConnection.Execute("delete * from BandText")
objRecordSet.Open "SELECT * FROM BandText", _
objConnection, adOpenStatic, adLockOptimistic
Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set objFile = objFSO.OpenTextFile("BandText.csv")
Do Until objFile.AtEndOfStream
strBandData = objFile.ReadLine
arrBandData = Split(strBandData, ",")
objRecordSet.AddNew
'MsgBox strBandData + "> " + arrBandData(0) + " : " + arrBandData(1)
+ " : " + arrBandData(2) + " : " + arrBandData(3)
objRecordSet("Low") = arrBandData(0)
objRecordSet("High") = arrBandData(1)
objRecordSet("Name") = arrBandData(2)
objRecordSet("Transmit") = arrBandData(3)
objRecordSet.Update
Loop
objRecordSet.Close
objConnection.Close
MsgBox "BandText data has been Imported"
' End of Script File
Regards,
Bob Ashmore.
EI6GDB
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Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 02:13 PM 7/22/2008, Brian Lloyd wrote: >On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > >>At 09:26 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: >>>There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire >>>interface. These >>>functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as >>>all other >>>control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. >>> >>> >>>Eric Wachsmann >>>FlexRadio Systems >> >>If someone were to figure out the format of the MIDI messages needed, >>could a separate program feed them in, without needing to change >>PowerSDR? (i.e. does the Windows MIDI driver do "mixing"?) > >It seems to me that the messages are more important than the >interface. I have a number of different ways to talk to various I2C >busses (I use I2C for IPC in our various robots). So for me, I would >just want to know what the message format is. > >Is there are standard form for messages on the flexwire I2C bus? I am >late to the party and I am certain you have probably thought of it. It would appear that although there are two API calls, one with 8 bits of data, one with 16, they both map to the same MIDI message. The address in the API call is a ushort, but I don't know if the F5K implementation uses 7 or 10 bit addresses, or what speed it runs at. From the comments in the PowerSDR code, it's not clear whether they use the SMBus semantics, and, of course, the details of the MIDI message to Flexwire I2C are buried in the (non-open) firmware inside the F5K. All we can see is the MIDI message format, and infer what the transformation is. >That strikes me as the important thing as then anyone with any >hardware that can speak to the I2C bus could code a control or data >collection program. interesting idea you triggered... I2C is a multimaster bus.. once you have I2C peripherals, you could control them either by having the F5K send commands (as the result of appropriate API calls from within PowerSDR, or, by painfully shooting MIDI messages out) or from an external I2C master (for which there are "zillions" of PC implementations).. then, when PowerSDR is enhanced or a suitable New Architecture node is created, you could do away with your I2C controller. Actually, given that there isn't support for any FlexWire peripherals in the current software (at least, greping for the word "wire" doesn't find any), you might as well not bother connecting them to the F5K. Just build your system and hope that when PowerSDR does support FlexWire, it will have the necessary flexibility to be configured for your peripherals. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Jim Lux wrote: > At 09:26 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: >> There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire >> interface. These >> functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as >> all other >> control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. >> >> >> Eric Wachsmann >> FlexRadio Systems > > If someone were to figure out the format of the MIDI messages needed, > could a separate program feed them in, without needing to change > PowerSDR? (i.e. does the Windows MIDI driver do "mixing"?) It seems to me that the messages are more important than the interface. I have a number of different ways to talk to various I2C busses (I use I2C for IPC in our various robots). So for me, I would just want to know what the message format is. Is there are standard form for messages on the flexwire I2C bus? I am late to the party and I am certain you have probably thought of it. That strikes me as the important thing as then anyone with any hardware that can speak to the I2C bus could code a control or data collection program. Brian Lloyd Granite Bay Montessori School 9330 Sierra College Bl brian AT gbmontessori DOT com Roseville, CA 95661 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)+1.791.912.8170 (fax) PGP key ID: 12095C52A32A1B6C PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0 CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] DDUtil Announcement
I have a couple of things that may be of interest to some users. 1. DDUtil is currently being tested with Vista Home Premium (32 bit) and appears to be stable so far. 2. I'm currently in the process of adding an adjustable WatchDog timer to shut down the transmitter should it exceed the preset value. This should be available in the next release (1.6.2). 3. ALC implementation is being looked into for feasibility. There are a number of issues to be considered, but I don't see it being a FireWire device. I would think a USB Dongle would be a better choice, at least in the short term. If I can stay away from the Flex code I would rather at least in its current incarnation. I do need help with the hardware design so if anyone has any ideas please contact me off line. 73, Steve K5FR http://k5fr.com/ddutilwiki/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DDUtil/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 11:40 AM 7/22/2008, Jim Lux wrote:
>At 10:59 AM 7/22/2008, Larry W8ER wrote:
> >Jim ... I am confused a bit. Steve k5fr's DDUtil seemingly has all
> >of this functionality. Steve has a different approach, in that he
> >uses the software CAT interface of PSDR and the driving of the
> >computers serial and parallel ports, but the end results are the
> >same. It effectively controls the SteppIR and the various amps like
> >the Quadra and the PW1 and the LP-100 power meter and rotor
> >direction control and autotune tuners. It can even lock other radios
> >together for synchronizing the tuning. The only thing I see that is
> >lacking is an ALC input for the 5K. Am I missing something or will
> >the Flexwire box expand on these functions? -- Larry W8ER
>
>
>I think you're right. DDUtil could conceivably issue an appropriate
>CAT command to PowerSDR which would send the appropriate I2C stuff
>out the FlexWire port. No difference logically..
>
>I don't think there's any CAT commands currently defined to do this
>(but adding that might be a fairly easy thing to do... ZZFW or something..)
>
>Jim
Something like
FlexWire Control
true
8
4
8
Get ZZFW P1 P1 P1 P1;
Set ZZFW P1 P1 P1 P1 P1 P2 P2 P2 P2;
Answer ZZFW P1 P1 P1 P1 P1 P2 P2 P2 P2;
P1 is I2C address in hex
P2 is data to send or readback in hex
I haven't delved into the CAT parser, etc., so there's probably some
handy utilities for format conversions, but I assume you'd need to
throw in a routine in CATCommands.cs along the lines of:
public string ZZFW(string s)
{
if (s.Length == parser.nSet)
{
addr = Convert...(0:3)
val1 = Convert...(4:5)
val2 = Convert...(6:7)
I2C_Write2Value(addr, val)
}
else if (s.Length == parser.nGet)
{
addr = Convert...(0:3)
I2C_ReadValue(addr,val)
return(convertformat(val))
}
else
{
return parser.Error1;
}
}
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Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Not sure what the issue here is
On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Ted wrote: > >> Well, mostly I was thinking about what gets foisted off on us by >> Microsoft every time there is an "upgrade". > Yes! But this is part of the landscape of today's operating systems. And why do we put up with this? I have used reliable systems in the past so there is no question that it is possible. Why do we accept broken software as normal? > You can > pick your OS to critique and there will be people on both sides to > cheer with > you or yell at you. Windows vs Mac vs Linux vs embedded ??? Actually, as curmudgeon I am able to find something wrong with all of them. All kidding aside, there doesn't seem to be a lot to recommend any of the current crop of operating systems. > It seems that > developers pick their OS and cope with the pros and cons. The major > effort of > PowerSDR has been to use the open source philosophy of 'free' and > 'collaboration' for the key DSP components and publishing the SOURCE > of Windows > code for 'collaboration'. In addition the stated development > direction is > towards a newer architecture. I understand. I am looking forward to it. I am even hoping to contribute in a useful fashion. (Besides being a bad example.) >> Which is why we need a set of snap-together modems neatly integrated >> into the radio. Signal stream in, data stream out. No worrying about >> what it looks like because that is what the UI module is for and that >> isn't part of the modem. Now you just reuse the modem LEGOs. Want a >> better modem, drop it in. You don't need a whole new system or whole >> new application. > > If you search the reflector archives you may be pleased to see that > is EXACTLY > where the newer architecture is headed. That is how good networked applications are constructed. >> Unless, like me, the bloody legacy applications DON'T WORK RIGHT! >> (Sorry, that's the frustration speaking -- oh yes, that IS a new >> PCI-E >> display adaptor next to the extra gig of RAM and the separate IEEE >> 1394 card. Thanks for asking.) > > Agreed, this is the least 'plug and play' radio I've ever > encountered. Most of > my early frustration (uh, excitement?) came from trying to get first > one > computer working, a Dell 2.4ghz. Now I've got a 3.0ghz > hyperthreaded machine > doing the PC work. The hypertheaded machine is much better, but > still not > there yet. I'm slowly building up a quad core machine to dedicate > to the > radio. That strikes me as just, uh, overkill. >> I hope to get to that point someday! > > Get hold of some snap on ferrite cores from your junk box or check > here on the > reflector for the best places (cheapest) to buy them. As you start > radiating > power you may need these. That is scary too. We shall see. Actually I have radiated RF while testing. Nothing evil occurred. OTOH, the antenna is well matched and about 40' away with a faraday cage around the radio. >> And there is nothing quite like those little spur spikes skipping >> hither and yon as one meanders through the spectrum. (That is >> something I am worried about because I think that is a function of >> the >> DDS LO.) > > The spurs end up being scarier visually than audibly. When I first > tuned > across 6m there were picket fences of moving spurs that scared the > heck out of > me. They disappeared in the next software version. Well, I am running the latest and greatest. They are *very* audible. The sudden jump in broadband noise at some frequencies is even more disturbing. > Then there is the phenomenon of an actual RF signal on the > panadapter, with the > 'Avg' button pushed in, bouncing up and down as you tune across the > band. This > appears to be a spur that changes amplitude as you tune but is > really caused by > the averaging function taking a moment to work. The bouncing up and > down of > the signal goes away as you tune if you turn off the 'Avg' function. > Disconcerting but understandable. No, that is not what I am looking at. These 'artifacts' are very obvious with a dummy load on. They are masked by atmospheric noise (QRN) on the lower bands but very prominent on the higher bands. 10M and 6M are just loaded, hence my comment about the possibility of DDS artifacts aliasing back into the passband. > Years ago I did some digital DSP work using an oscilloscope for the > spectrum > display, this is before we had PC's to use. As I tuned my digital > oscillator I > followed the 'blip' on the screen of the scope move. Every few cm's > of > movement the scope screen would break out in an array of picket > fence spurs. > Finally the lab guys and I figured out that we were observing very > common > mixing artifacts. They occur all the time in mixers. In old style > radios > they are very carefully dealt with over many iterations of trial and > error. > There is some math but there is a lot of trial and error. With > these new SDR > rad
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 10:59 AM 7/22/2008, Larry W8ER wrote: >Jim ... I am confused a bit. Steve k5fr's DDUtil seemingly has all >of this functionality. Steve has a different approach, in that he >uses the software CAT interface of PSDR and the driving of the >computers serial and parallel ports, but the end results are the >same. It effectively controls the SteppIR and the various amps like >the Quadra and the PW1 and the LP-100 power meter and rotor >direction control and autotune tuners. It can even lock other radios >together for synchronizing the tuning. The only thing I see that is >lacking is an ALC input for the 5K. Am I missing something or will >the Flexwire box expand on these functions? -- Larry W8ER I think you're right. DDUtil could conceivably issue an appropriate CAT command to PowerSDR which would send the appropriate I2C stuff out the FlexWire port. No difference logically.. I don't think there's any CAT commands currently defined to do this (but adding that might be a fairly easy thing to do... ZZFW or something..) Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
The CAT system is intended precisely to handle legacy software, so it's the right thing to be using in these situations. That will continue to be the case. Regarding MIDI control, it's very unlikely that the F5K MIDI ports will *ever* be opened up directly to user apps -- MIDI access to the F5K is handled separately through the Virtual interface, so the issues raised here are moot. 73 Frank AB2KT On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Larry W8ER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim ... I am confused a bit. Steve k5fr's DDUtil seemingly has all of > this functionality. Steve has a different approach, in that he uses the > software CAT interface of PSDR and the driving of the computers serial > and parallel ports, but the end results are the same. It effectively > controls the SteppIR and the various amps like the Quadra and the PW1 > and the LP-100 power meter and rotor direction control and autotune > tuners. It can even lock other radios together for synchronizing the > tuning. The only thing I see that is lacking is an ALC input for the 5K. > Am I missing something or will the Flexwire box expand on these > functions? -- Larry W8ER > > Jim Lux wrote: > > At 09:53 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: > > > >> Could you? Yes. Would you want to? That's questionable. The midi > >> messages are basically like a stream of bytes going to/from a serial > port. > >> The messages themselves are >10 bytes each. To allow another "writer" > to > >> the port would mean that you would have to synchronize who was sending > when. > >> > >> Having said all of that, there is nothing that would technically keep > this > >> > > >from working as long as you avoid the collisions. In RX mode, unless > you > > > >> are changing frequency or setting some function, I don't believe there > is > >> anything active going on. So in RX, this should be pretty easy. > >> > > > > I was wondering if the Windows MM driver would essentially "queue" > > the outbound messages. (probably not, see below) > > > > So PowerSDR is sending messages. Simultaneously, say you have > > something like a rotator control that is sending messages, destined > > for the I2C output. Presumably, the state machine in the F5K > > receives the entire midi sysex, parses it, then fires it off to do > > whatever, then goes back to fetch the next MIDI message.. So the > > messages are interleaved according to time of arrival at the Windows > > Midi outbound queue. > > > > Indeed, if one did the query messages, I could see things getting > > confused. The F5K would send the SysEx back, and it's not clear who > > the recipient task would be. > > > > But, if the Windows MM driver can only talk to one task at a time, > > (i.e. it's like opening a serial port), then this is moot. > > That is, if when you call Midi.MidiOutOpen, it only allows one user. > > > > (without delving too deeply into the arcana of the Windows MultiMedia > API... > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms789663.aspx > > > > Fascinating that they handle MIDI as an audio device... > > > > More at > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms712058%28VS.85%29.aspx > > > > It shows that MidiOutOpen can return a status of "MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED" > > so it appears that only one process can talk to a given MIDI device > > at a time... > > > > > > } > > > > So you're stuck with feeding the stuff through PowerSDR (or > > implementing some changes in the "CAT" style interface in PowerSDR to > > accept commands for "passthrough") > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > -- Travelling by airplane in the US is nothing more than mass training of Americans to the requirements of the coming police state. The whole point is to make you learn to acquiesce without question, en masse, to completely absurd directives by dull functionaries wearing uniforms. -- Digby ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
Jim ... I am confused a bit. Steve k5fr's DDUtil seemingly has all of this functionality. Steve has a different approach, in that he uses the software CAT interface of PSDR and the driving of the computers serial and parallel ports, but the end results are the same. It effectively controls the SteppIR and the various amps like the Quadra and the PW1 and the LP-100 power meter and rotor direction control and autotune tuners. It can even lock other radios together for synchronizing the tuning. The only thing I see that is lacking is an ALC input for the 5K. Am I missing something or will the Flexwire box expand on these functions? -- Larry W8ER Jim Lux wrote: > At 09:53 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: > >> Could you? Yes. Would you want to? That's questionable. The midi >> messages are basically like a stream of bytes going to/from a serial port. >> The messages themselves are >10 bytes each. To allow another "writer" to >> the port would mean that you would have to synchronize who was sending when. >> >> Having said all of that, there is nothing that would technically keep this >> > >from working as long as you avoid the collisions. In RX mode, unless you > >> are changing frequency or setting some function, I don't believe there is >> anything active going on. So in RX, this should be pretty easy. >> > > I was wondering if the Windows MM driver would essentially "queue" > the outbound messages. (probably not, see below) > > So PowerSDR is sending messages. Simultaneously, say you have > something like a rotator control that is sending messages, destined > for the I2C output. Presumably, the state machine in the F5K > receives the entire midi sysex, parses it, then fires it off to do > whatever, then goes back to fetch the next MIDI message.. So the > messages are interleaved according to time of arrival at the Windows > Midi outbound queue. > > Indeed, if one did the query messages, I could see things getting > confused. The F5K would send the SysEx back, and it's not clear who > the recipient task would be. > > But, if the Windows MM driver can only talk to one task at a time, > (i.e. it's like opening a serial port), then this is moot. > That is, if when you call Midi.MidiOutOpen, it only allows one user. > > (without delving too deeply into the arcana of the Windows MultiMedia API... > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms789663.aspx > > Fascinating that they handle MIDI as an audio device... > > More at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms712058%28VS.85%29.aspx > > It shows that MidiOutOpen can return a status of "MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED" > so it appears that only one process can talk to a given MIDI device > at a time... > > > } > > So you're stuck with feeding the stuff through PowerSDR (or > implementing some changes in the "CAT" style interface in PowerSDR to > accept commands for "passthrough") > > > > Jim > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 09:53 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: >Could you? Yes. Would you want to? That's questionable. The midi >messages are basically like a stream of bytes going to/from a serial port. >The messages themselves are >10 bytes each. To allow another "writer" to >the port would mean that you would have to synchronize who was sending when. > >Having said all of that, there is nothing that would technically keep this >from working as long as you avoid the collisions. In RX mode, unless you >are changing frequency or setting some function, I don't believe there is >anything active going on. So in RX, this should be pretty easy. I was wondering if the Windows MM driver would essentially "queue" the outbound messages. (probably not, see below) So PowerSDR is sending messages. Simultaneously, say you have something like a rotator control that is sending messages, destined for the I2C output. Presumably, the state machine in the F5K receives the entire midi sysex, parses it, then fires it off to do whatever, then goes back to fetch the next MIDI message.. So the messages are interleaved according to time of arrival at the Windows Midi outbound queue. Indeed, if one did the query messages, I could see things getting confused. The F5K would send the SysEx back, and it's not clear who the recipient task would be. But, if the Windows MM driver can only talk to one task at a time, (i.e. it's like opening a serial port), then this is moot. That is, if when you call Midi.MidiOutOpen, it only allows one user. (without delving too deeply into the arcana of the Windows MultiMedia API... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms789663.aspx Fascinating that they handle MIDI as an audio device... More at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms712058%28VS.85%29.aspx It shows that MidiOutOpen can return a status of "MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED" so it appears that only one process can talk to a given MIDI device at a time... } So you're stuck with feeding the stuff through PowerSDR (or implementing some changes in the "CAT" style interface in PowerSDR to accept commands for "passthrough") Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
Could you? Yes. Would you want to? That's questionable. The midi messages are basically like a stream of bytes going to/from a serial port. The messages themselves are >10 bytes each. To allow another "writer" to the port would mean that you would have to synchronize who was sending when. Having said all of that, there is nothing that would technically keep this from working as long as you avoid the collisions. In RX mode, unless you are changing frequency or setting some function, I don't believe there is anything active going on. So in RX, this should be pretty easy. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: Jim Lux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Neal Campbell'; 'Maarten' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Flexwire At 09:26 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: >There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire interface. These >functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as all other >control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. > > >Eric Wachsmann >FlexRadio Systems If someone were to figure out the format of the MIDI messages needed, could a separate program feed them in, without needing to change PowerSDR? (i.e. does the Windows MIDI driver do "mixing"?) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database -- a little progress
Tim Ellison wrote: > I believe the OO tool is mucking up the Access database. Obviously it is > truncating the precision of the field value which is probably why you are > receiving the error. The data is there, but OO is not showing it. > > Maybe if you can provide a detailed band plan for digital modes on all bands > for region II, I can create a small database table that is updated and you > could import it with Ray's DB table import tool. > > > -Tim > > After you open the table in OO, you can adjust the displayed decimal points, etc. by r-clicking the title and selecting format. There you can increase the number of decimal points shown among many other format changes. However, I entered 3.552 TEX CW Net and the database shows it is there in the database, but in PowerSDR when I select the frequency, it still shows 80m CW. Chuck ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 09:28 AM 7/22/2008, Neal Campbell wrote: >Sorry to have mis-represented this. I guess we just need to write >routines that can use these functions to talk to our products! > >Neal > >On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Eric Wachsmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire > interface. These > > functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as all other > > control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. > > > > Well... adding functionality to PowerSDR is non-trivial. The process is straightforward, but decidedly non-trivial: One has to scrounge up Visual Studio 2003, then figure out how and where to add the functions you'd want (User interface wise). After that, it's pretty easy to figure out how to call Eric's control functions. (this is assuming you have a piece of gear that is I2C controlled, and you know how to command it already. here's the functions: I2C_WriteValue(ushort addr, byte val) I2C_Write2Value(ushort addr, byte v1, byte v2) I2C_ReadValue(ushort addr, out uint val) If you want to do it with MIDI messages, it's a bit more complex.. (because they're sent back and forth as SysEx messages).. Something along the lines of F0, 00, 00, 41, 2byte msg id, 2 byte protocol id (unused), 4byte opcode, 4 byte data, 4 byte data, F7 I think you need to turn the short ints into hex (I can't remember if MIDI allows high bit set in the middle of a SysEx.. probably not) opcode is found in a big ENUM, and might be 1019, 1020, 1021, for the three functions above. Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 09:26 AM 7/22/2008, Eric Wachsmann wrote: >There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire interface. These >functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as all other >control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. > > >Eric Wachsmann >FlexRadio Systems If someone were to figure out the format of the MIDI messages needed, could a separate program feed them in, without needing to change PowerSDR? (i.e. does the Windows MIDI driver do "mixing"?) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
Sorry to have mis-represented this. I guess we just need to write routines that can use these functions to talk to our products! Neal On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Eric Wachsmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire interface. These > functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as all other > control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. > > > Eric Wachsmann > FlexRadio Systems > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Lux > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:19 AM > To: Neal Campbell; Maarten > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire > > At 09:31 PM 7/21/2008, Neal Campbell wrote: > --snip-- I am not sure but do not believe >>there is anything in Psdr currently that sends data over that port so >>you would have to "homebrew" that also. > > --snip-- > > Depending on how a PC application "talks" to the FlexWire (is it > through midi messages?) one might be able to make an add-on utility > that looks at CAT and spits out/receives the appropriate stuff > (assuming that the Windows MIDI driver can tolerate multiple > "talkers").. A bit of "grep"ing through the PowerSDR code base might > be called for... > > -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
There are tested functions defined to talk to the FlexWire interface. These functions do indeed talk through the firewire midi port (same as all other control messages). See ...Source\Console\FWC\fwc.cs for the details. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:19 AM To: Neal Campbell; Maarten Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire At 09:31 PM 7/21/2008, Neal Campbell wrote: --snip-- I am not sure but do not believe >there is anything in Psdr currently that sends data over that port so >you would have to "homebrew" that also. --snip-- Depending on how a PC application "talks" to the FlexWire (is it through midi messages?) one might be able to make an add-on utility that looks at CAT and spits out/receives the appropriate stuff (assuming that the Windows MIDI driver can tolerate multiple "talkers").. A bit of "grep"ing through the PowerSDR code base might be called for... ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
At 09:31 PM 7/21/2008, Neal Campbell wrote: >You only need to worry about homebrewing an I2C interface until Flex >comes out with some Flexwire products or defines a protocol so some of >us can (like happened with the UCB). I am not sure but do not believe >there is anything in Psdr currently that sends data over that port so >you would have to "homebrew" that also. Bear in mind that the radio's really only been in most people's hands for about 6 months (first shipping was around September last year), and options tend to lag... Last April, Flex made the following statement: "FlexWire Universal Peripheral Controller: The UPC will provide for control of amplifiers, rotators, antenna tuners, etc. FlexRadio's FlexWire UPC (not to be confused with the Universal Controller Board, soon to be available as a third party item) is in engineering and design. We expect a FlexWire UPC release in Q3 2008. " (from the support page at Flex) That would be any day now, if they hold to their expectation (since we're 1/4 way through Q3, and all) (it's a revision from the announcement in September 2007: "FlexWire accessories will be available second quarter of 2008." Back last October, Bob N4HY asked for suggestions about ALC interfaces to be sent to John B at Flex. Don't know if anything materialized from that. He also reported to ARRL at the beginning of the year that Flex was "about to release.. several "Flexwire" peripheral devices...", but that might have been optimistic. Mid July, last year, (before the radio was shipping) there was discussion about blocking a pin in the connector to prevent folks from inadvertently cooking something. Those of you contemplating homebrew... Flex has the usual warning about "non-approved devices might void the warranty" (but, hey, that's the same as any other radio.. Don't go using that tesla coil as a driver) >The thinking behind the flexwire port is that it could be smarter than >just relays turned on and off (so, for instance, a flexwire device >could send BCD data to antenna switches or sense ALC data and clamp >down power output for amps, etc.). So you do run "protocols" to use a >word over it to smart devices that could do more that just sink or get >high signals. > >Until Flex comes out with something to use the port, the second best >option is to tell us (on the list) what you really need to do and who >knows, maybe someone will code up something for you! I don't think >somethink has sophisticated was even envisioned like DDUtil a year ago >and it does everything but turn on the coffee pot (Steve, are you >working on this?) > >Neal Depending on how a PC application "talks" to the FlexWire (is it through midi messages?) one might be able to make an add-on utility that looks at CAT and spits out/receives the appropriate stuff (assuming that the Windows MIDI driver can tolerate multiple "talkers").. A bit of "grep"ing through the PowerSDR code base might be called for... (I'd have grep'd by now, but I have a new computer, and I didn't copy the source code over yet. The current software is 1.12.0, but the most recent source that the support page has (without SVNing) is apparently 1.8.0.. and 1.8.0 is from 2006, so doesn't include the F5K.. If I can drag it up from a backup or get SVN up, I'll take a look..) Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] New PS. Switching or not?
TNX a lot to ALL for your answers. My problem with noise in the PS has been solved. I was using an Alinco DM-330MVE PS. When i was in TX i could listen a noise inside the PS. I have changed it for a Diamond GSV3000 Power Supply. All is fine now, no problems, no noise and when in TX Voltage stays solid. With the Alinco it was going down around 1 v at full power. Is very possible that problem was my Alinco PS and not all the Alinco's 330. TNX a lot. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo http://www.palotes.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Fw: Not sure what the issue here is
> Well, mostly I was thinking about what gets foisted off on us by > Microsoft every time there is an "upgrade". Yes! But this is part of the landscape of today's operating systems. You can pick your OS to critique and there will be people on both sides to cheer with you or yell at you. Windows vs Mac vs Linux vs embedded ???It seems that developers pick their OS and cope with the pros and cons. The major effort of PowerSDR has been to use the open source philosophy of 'free' and 'collaboration' for the key DSP components and publishing the SOURCE of Windows code for 'collaboration'. In addition the stated development direction is towards a newer architecture. > Which is why we need a set of snap-together modems neatly integrated > into the radio. Signal stream in, data stream out. No worrying about > what it looks like because that is what the UI module is for and that > isn't part of the modem. Now you just reuse the modem LEGOs. Want a > better modem, drop it in. You don't need a whole new system or whole > new application. If you search the reflector archives you may be pleased to see that is EXACTLY where the newer architecture is headed. > Unless, like me, the bloody legacy applications DON'T WORK RIGHT! > (Sorry, that's the frustration speaking -- oh yes, that IS a new PCI-E > display adaptor next to the extra gig of RAM and the separate IEEE > 1394 card. Thanks for asking.) Agreed, this is the least 'plug and play' radio I've ever encountered. Most of my early frustration (uh, excitement?) came from trying to get first one computer working, a Dell 2.4ghz. Now I've got a 3.0ghz hyperthreaded machine doing the PC work. The hypertheaded machine is much better, but still not there yet. I'm slowly building up a quad core machine to dedicate to the radio. > > I hope to get to that point someday! Get hold of some snap on ferrite cores from your junk box or check here on the reflector for the best places (cheapest) to buy them. As you start radiating power you may need these. > > > And there is nothing quite like those little spur spikes skipping > hither and yon as one meanders through the spectrum. (That is > something I am worried about because I think that is a function of the > DDS LO.) The spurs end up being scarier visually than audibly. When I first tuned across 6m there were picket fences of moving spurs that scared the heck out of me. They disappeared in the next software version. Then there is the phenomenon of an actual RF signal on the panadapter, with the 'Avg' button pushed in, bouncing up and down as you tune across the band. This appears to be a spur that changes amplitude as you tune but is really caused by the averaging function taking a moment to work. The bouncing up and down of the signal goes away as you tune if you turn off the 'Avg' function. Disconcerting but understandable. Years ago I did some digital DSP work using an oscilloscope for the spectrum display, this is before we had PC's to use. As I tuned my digital oscillator I followed the 'blip' on the screen of the scope move. Every few cm's of movement the scope screen would break out in an array of picket fence spurs. Finally the lab guys and I figured out that we were observing very common mixing artifacts. They occur all the time in mixers. In old style radios they are very carefully dealt with over many iterations of trial and error. There is some math but there is a lot of trial and error. With these new SDR radios, the Flexradio being the latest and greatest, we get to observe these artifacts if and when they occur. The programmers have been fantastic in working them out of the system. I attribute that to their skill, dedication and the visual tools that the panadapter display provides. > Well, the radio is too but we have such a long way to go for the > software to catch up that I think it will work for a bit longer yet. > (I certainly hope so as I share your vision. I passed up the K3 for > the '5K.) yes, as did I. It's taking a leap of faith. No doubt in that! > Well, faster than what? My whole (subtle) point was that once your > computer is fast enough, making it faster won't make things perform > better ... until you add something else in that requires more CPU > cycles. So if the display is updating fine, you are sampling at > 192Ksps and there are no dropouts, and the other applications, e.g. > MixW, are running without gaps in the waterfall and garble in the > text, then paying for extra computer power doesn't make it run better. I've yet to get to 192 Ksps AND use all the filter buttons AND do auxiliary and legacy software. sigh. > Well, not quite. It is more like FM -- once you have enough signal for > full-quieting, more power won't make the signal any better. agreed, but I keep adding functions and I want more features. Every addition needs more compute power and less hassles from interrupts and system proces
Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database wasn't what I wanted originally anyway
Yes, that would be a nice feature and if you haven't already done so, you need to add it as a feature request. But, with the current state of development as it is now with the emphasis on the new architecture, features of this nature are not going to be integrated into PowerSDR anytime in the near future, which is why I was providing an alternative method (work around) for your request. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:19 AM To: Flex Group Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database wasn't what I wanted originally anyway On 07/22/08 06:23 am I wrote: > On 07/21/08 10:29 pm Ray, K9DUR wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> You must be correct about Open Office causing a problem. >> >> Alan's statement that, "...the database is defined to permit only two >> decimal places..." is absolutely not correct. The "Low" & "High" fields in >> the BandText table are double-precision floating-point numbers, with at >> least 14 significant digits. With a maximum frequency of 65 MHz, this means >> that the values stored can have up to 12 digits after the decimal point. >> Typical values in these fields are entered to the nearest Hz, or 6 digits >> after the decimal point. Any limitation to only 2 digits must be either a >> limitation in or a setting of Open Office. > Perhaps I jumped to the wrong conclusion based on what I observed: I > could enter 14.236, but as soon as I moved over to the next field, what > was displayed was "14.24." Note that what I had in mind when I posted my original feature request was the ability to click on a frequency and be offered the option to add my own label. I'm trying to gather a list of digital frequencies whose labels could be added in one fell swoop, but I still think some people might like a simple method of labeling some pet frequency as, for example, "Old Farts' bitching net." Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database wasn't what I wanted originally anyway
On 07/22/08 06:23 am I wrote: > On 07/21/08 10:29 pm Ray, K9DUR wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> You must be correct about Open Office causing a problem. >> >> Alan's statement that, "...the database is defined to permit only two >> decimal places..." is absolutely not correct. The "Low" & "High" fields in >> the BandText table are double-precision floating-point numbers, with at >> least 14 significant digits. With a maximum frequency of 65 MHz, this means >> that the values stored can have up to 12 digits after the decimal point. >> Typical values in these fields are entered to the nearest Hz, or 6 digits >> after the decimal point. Any limitation to only 2 digits must be either a >> limitation in or a setting of Open Office. > Perhaps I jumped to the wrong conclusion based on what I observed: I > could enter 14.236, but as soon as I moved over to the next field, what > was displayed was "14.24." Note that what I had in mind when I posted my original feature request was the ability to click on a frequency and be offered the option to add my own label. I'm trying to gather a list of digital frequencies whose labels could be added in one fell swoop, but I still think some people might like a simple method of labeling some pet frequency as, for example, "Old Farts' bitching net." Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Dropouts in VAC stream
> base model computer are coming with 1-2 gb now days, decent ones have > 3-4gb and i have seen higher end ones a Best Buy selling lately with > 6gb of memory.. Note that anything running Vista or XP with 4GB or more of usable memory will necessarily be a 64-bit Windows system due to the way Windows licenses work. No more than 4GB of memory is supported on a 32-bit Windows client-type system (irrespective of PAE, for you computer types). de Peter K1PGV ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
Quoting Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Mon 21 Jul 2008 08:57:34 PM PDT: > Oh. That really stinks. I can pretty much forget to homebrew something. This > will make it tough to transfer my transverter hardware to a SDR5000. > Programming a PIC or Rabbit sounds far more difficult than wiring a couple > of relais and is most likely beyond my expertise. I kind of missed the whole > digital electronic development. Hi. > What was the reason not to include the X2 connector? I can understand to go > to a better communication interface but why ditch the legacy port. So far I > have not found any interfaces in the knowledge base. On google I found a few > ham applications using the I2C protocol. > How long did it take to finally get the UCB board developed. > 73 Maarten N1DZ > > Not necessarily as hopeless as you might think.. http://www.remotemonitoringsystems.ca/i2crdb/ is a I2C relay board.. I don't know if it's FlexLink compatible... It uses the PCA9534 chip, which I've seen other references to. http://www.knjn.com/ShopI2C_accessories.html has a raft of I2C controlled stuff. The real question is what sort of PowerSDR support is there for random I2C peripherals. Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] New PS. Switching or not?
And my "ancient" SDR-1000, who's internal -15 volt switching power supply I watch drifting up and down the bands. KB article: < http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10277 > Jim Lux wrote: > Quoting "Ray, K9DUR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Mon 21 Jul 2008 07:32:15 PM PDT: > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire
Have you looked into the functionality of the three sequenced keying lines on the FLEX-5000? -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maarten Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Jim Lux' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire Oh. That really stinks. I can pretty much forget to homebrew something. This will make it tough to transfer my transverter hardware to a SDR5000. Programming a PIC or Rabbit sounds far more difficult than wiring a couple of relais and is most likely beyond my expertise. I kind of missed the whole digital electronic development. Hi. What was the reason not to include the X2 connector? I can understand to go to a better communication interface but why ditch the legacy port. So far I have not found any interfaces in the knowledge base. On google I found a few ham applications using the I2C protocol. How long did it take to finally get the UCB board developed. 73 Maarten N1DZ -Original Message- From: Jim Lux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:20 PM To: Maarten Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flexwire Quoting Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Mon 21 Jul 2008 08:10:41 PM PDT: > I am using the SDR1000 with my transverters for VHF/UHF. I use the X2 port > and the open collector switches to control my transverters via a simple > homebrew interface. ( Not a UCB but just a couple of relais) With each band > selection button I can switch the specific transverter and its associated > PA's on. This is great for remote operation. > > I looked at the SDR5000 manual and noticed that the X2 port is not present > anymore. Or am I wrong? You're right > > I noticed a new port called Flexwire. What is the Flexwire port? What is > I2C? The working of the X2 port I could understand without any real advanced > knowledge. This Flexwire does not look that easy. I2C is a simple serial protocol invented by (I think) Philips for things like TV tuners and remotes. Lots of ICs are available that use I2C, and programming a PIC or Rabbit for it is pretty easy. Is there an off the shelf interface that "speaks I2C" and for which the hooks are in PowerSDR? I don't know... > > Where can I find information on this host of peripheral devices? Does anyone > use the flexwire and with what device? Jim, W6RMK ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Editing the database -- a little progress
On 07/21/08 10:29 pm Ray, K9DUR wrote: > Tim, > > You must be correct about Open Office causing a problem. > > Alan's statement that, "...the database is defined to permit only two > decimal places..." is absolutely not correct. The "Low" & "High" fields in > the BandText table are double-precision floating-point numbers, with at > least 14 significant digits. With a maximum frequency of 65 MHz, this means > that the values stored can have up to 12 digits after the decimal point. > Typical values in these fields are entered to the nearest Hz, or 6 digits > after the decimal point. Any limitation to only 2 digits must be either a > limitation in or a setting of Open Office. Perhaps I jumped to the wrong conclusion based on what I observed: I could enter 14.236, but as soon as I moved over to the next field, what was displayed was "14.24." 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
