Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[Giuseppe Venanzoni]

2010/1/26 syd adams :
> I wouldnt spend too much time on the b1900d , as Ive already redone most of
> it ,and added the CLM /DSC modes , and will probably commit tonight .

OK, I tuned only implemented modes on old aircraft :)
My patches are only suggestions

> The main problem i found on that is the yaw damper was fighting any turn in
> roll modes,so at the moment Ive disabled it.

I reduced the gain by 1/5. I think a low-pass filter could help

> I'm still tuning the pitch modes , i get the extreme elevator offset on mode
> initiaization now...

don't understand :( Have you tried to initialize internal variables
before mode switch?

Giuseppe


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[syd adams]

Yes Ive sorted some of that out .
What makes it a bit more difficult is that all pitch modes have to be output
to target-pitch-deg to run the flight director bars .
If you want to experiment with the version I just uploaded , I'm sure it
could be greatly improved.
But I'd prefer if you posted patches here in the "development" area rather
than the forum. I'm not there much , so probably miss a lot.
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[Flightgear-devel] Hello @all from Peter

[Peter Meyer]

Hello @all

Iam a Flightsim Enthusiast and Developer from South Germany (Stuttgart) and 
Member of the ICARO-Group,
a non Profit, Virtual Helicopter, Air Rescue Squadron.In the Past my Friends 
have done some Artwork (Aircraft/Scenery) 
and Programming for the M$ Flightsim System (Own GPS-InFlight System, a full 
featured, ultra realistic 
 BK-117 AirRescue Helicopter, and lots of Scenery ) and we are in Touch with 
real World Pilots and Traffic
Controllers thadt supporting our approaches. Now the Ms Flightsimulator is 
reaching its End of Lifecycle and we
are talking about joining into the Flightgear Scene, and porting our MS Flight 
Stuff to it. 

Thadts all for now. Sorry for my bad English and greetings from Germany,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[Pete Morgan]

I just noticed the info below about localiser on the "Flight Simulation 
Naviagtion" site
http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/

Is there an easy way to determine is the NAV is a Lcoaliser, I cant see 
that in Prop tree.

pete

 >>>


Flying the Localizer

Most of the skills learned when flying VOR approaches are applicable to 
Localizer approaches.

* Turn towards the needle to correct for drift—except for a Back
  Course approach when you do the opposite and turn /away/ from the
  needle to correct for drift.
* Don't chase the needle.
* Establish the proper Wind Correction Angle very early in the
  approach.
* Stabilize the approach so that only power changes are needed for
  altitude changes.

The biggest difference, of course, is the four-times increase in 
sensitivity when tracking a localizer. Off course by one degree is a 
two-dot deflection on the Indicator gauge. A half-degree misalignment is 
one dot.

How do you correct a heading that is misaligned by one-half degree? You 
"kick it over." Yes, that means rudder pedals. And you kick the pedal on 
the side that you want to turn. Right turn. Right pedal. You simply 
don't bank a plane when you want to make a 1° heading adjustment.

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[Flightgear-devel] Newbie Question

[Peter Meyer]

Hi all,

Can some one tell me how excatly i can cvs checkout the latest Source?
In the Manuals are only Version 0.9 is described but i want to acces the latest 
Stable and Devel sources. I have try to Modify Flightgear-0.9 to 1.9 and 1.9.1 
but 
it didnt work for me. Is there any "uptodate" Developer Faq or readme out there?
Hint: I want to compile the Sources on Win 64-Bit with MSVC2008 SP1

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Newbie Question

[Erik Hofman]

Hi Peter,

First of all, welcome!

Peter Meyer wrote:
  > Can some one tell me how excatly i can cvs checkout the latest Source?
> In the Manuals are only Version 0.9 is described but i want to acces the 
> latest 
> Stable and Devel sources. I have try to Modify Flightgear-0.9 to 1.9 and 
> 1.9.1 but 
> it didnt work for me. Is there any "uptodate" Developer Faq or readme out 
> there?
> Hint: I want to compile the Sources on Win 64-Bit with MSVC2008 SP1

You can find the most important information here:
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Building_FlightGear_-_Windows

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello @all from Peter

[HB-GRAL]

Peter Meyer schrieb:
> Hello @all

Welcome Peter

Good news from Stuttgart! I hope that you get a lot of feedback here in 
the developer list. And maybe it is worth to announce your arrival also 
in the forum.

Aircraft Development: 
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=4&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&start=0

Scenery Enhancement:
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&start=0

Thanks - gral


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[Giuseppe Venanzoni]

Ok, thank you. I have to download the release candidate torrent before...

@pete : the procedure is for manual approach with the help of LOC, I think.

Giuseppe

2010/1/27 syd adams :
> Yes Ive sorted some of that out .
> What makes it a bit more difficult is that all pitch modes have to be output
> to target-pitch-deg to run the flight director bars .
> If you want to experiment with the version I just uploaded , I'm sure it
> could be greatly improved.
> But I'd prefer if you posted patches here in the "development" area rather
> than the forum. I'm not there much , so probably miss a lot.
> Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello @all from Peter

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi Peter,


> Hello @all
> 
> Iam a Flightsim Enthusiast and Developer from South Germany
> (Stuttgart) and Member of the ICARO-Group,
> a non Profit, Virtual Helicopter, Air Rescue Squadron.In
> the Past my Friends have done some Artwork
> (Aircraft/Scenery) 

Welcome Peter, I already from you on www.va-luftrettung.de and must smile on 
the comments to FGFS from others!

> and Programming for the M$ Flightsim System (Own
> GPS-InFlight System, a full featured, ultra realistic 
>  BK-117 AirRescue Helicopter, and lots of Scenery ) and we
> are in Touch with real World Pilots and Traffic
> Controllers thadt supporting our approaches. 

Well, nice things, but the about the "ultra-realistic" BK117 we have to 
discuss! ;-) You will see that the flightdynamic in FGFS is per default much 
much better and physically correct than MSFS per default and close or even 
better than Dodosim.


>
>Now the Ms
> Flightsimulator is reaching its End of Lifecycle and we
> are talking about joining into the Flightgear Scene, and
> porting our MS Flight Stuff to it. 
> 
> Thadts all for now. Sorry for my bad English and greetings
> from Germany,
> Peter

Beside that there might be some people not happy with this kind of VA, it is 
nice to see that you are interested in FlightGear.

I'm interested to see how the desiscion will end!

Cheers from Tübingen
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Newbie Question

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,

Latest release of FGFS you will find here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dtalsma/fgsetup-2.0.0-RC2.1.exe.torrent

The most important change for you: shader support (soon our models will look 
like MSFS ! ;-)))

GPS and navigation revised and much more realistic.

This will help you also:

http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Updating_FlightGear_on_Windows

Cheers
Heiko

> Hi all,
> 
> Can some one tell me how excatly i can cvs checkout the
> latest Source?
> In the Manuals are only Version 0.9 is described but i want
> to acces the latest 
> Stable and Devel sources. I have try to Modify
> Flightgear-0.9 to 1.9 and 1.9.1 but 
> it didnt work for me. Is there any "uptodate" Developer Faq
> or readme out there?
> Hint: I want to compile the Sources on Win 64-Bit with
> MSVC2008 SP1
> 
> Greetings, Peter
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stencil operations for effects and new "light cone"

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi Lauri!,


> Hi!
> 
> The attached patch adds support for stencil operations in
> effects.
> Patches are for simgear's scene/material/Effect.cxx and
> flightgear's
> Main/CameraGroup.cxx. I did them with "cvs diff
> " against latest
> CVS version. Hope that is correct way.
> 
> 
> The format of stencil operations in effect file is
> following:
> 
>   ...
>   ...
>   ...
>   ...
>   ...
>   ...
> 
> 
> Where function can be never, always, less, less-or-equal,
> equal,
> not-equal, greater-or-equal or greater.
> 
> Value is the reference value used in stencil operations and
> mask is the
> stencil bit mask.
> 
> Stencil-fail, z-fail and pass are stencil operations if
> stencil test
> fails or stencil-test passes but z-test fails or both
> passes. Possible
> functions are zero, keep, replace, increase, decrease,
> invert,
> increase-wrap and decrease-wrap.
> 
> I think one has to know something about stencil buffers to
> use this ;)
> 
> 
> I also added a new general tag  type="vec4d">1 0 0
> 1 that allows only writing to certain
> channel (in this
> example only to red and alpha channel.
> 
> 
> As an example, I attached new version of the light-cone.eff
> I posted few
> days ago. This one does the same thing but with stencil
> operations.
> The .ac model used with this should be almost transparent
> or it will be
> too bright.
> 
> This version has some issue if there is more than 5 light
> models
> simultaneously. I don't know if this is a OSG issue about
> rendering
> orders or something? But please test and comment.
> 
> Lauri, a.k.a. Zan
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> lauri.pelto...@gmail.com


This are great news! That means we can have now landinglights, cockpitlights 
etc.

Can't wait to to try this!

Many thanks for this!

Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stencil operations for effects and new "light cone"

[Patrice Poly]

Hello !

I have just tried the new light patch, it is great !

No more visible light cone :)

There is a detail that I do not manage to sort out, though.
The effect looks great at day : http://imagebin.org/82128
but at night, it tends to fill the lit area with grey, overwriting the
ground texture : http://imagebin.org/82129

my light cone matierial is as follows : MATERIAL "DefaultWhite" rgb 0.2
0.2 0.2  amb 0.2 0.2 0.2  emis 0 0 0  spec 0 0.5 0  shi 64  trans 0.2

I tried to change the rgb, ambient, emis and alpha, but didn't find a
way to fix it.
Any idea ?


On 27/01/2010 12:59, Heiko Schulz wrote:
> Hi Lauri!,
>
>
>   
>> Hi!
>>
>> The attached patch adds support for stencil operations in
>> effects.
>> Patches are for simgear's scene/material/Effect.cxx and
>> flightgear's
>> Main/CameraGroup.cxx. I did them with "cvs diff
>> " against latest
>> CVS version. Hope that is correct way.
>>
>>
>> The format of stencil operations in effect file is
>> following:
>> 
>>   ...
>>   ...
>>   ...
>>   ...
>>   ...
>>   ...
>> 
>>
>> Where function can be never, always, less, less-or-equal,
>> equal,
>> not-equal, greater-or-equal or greater.
>>
>> Value is the reference value used in stencil operations and
>> mask is the
>> stencil bit mask.
>>
>> Stencil-fail, z-fail and pass are stencil operations if
>> stencil test
>> fails or stencil-test passes but z-test fails or both
>> passes. Possible
>> functions are zero, keep, replace, increase, decrease,
>> invert,
>> increase-wrap and decrease-wrap.
>>
>> I think one has to know something about stencil buffers to
>> use this ;)
>>
>>
>> I also added a new general tag > type="vec4d">1 0 0
>> 1 that allows only writing to certain
>> channel (in this
>> example only to red and alpha channel.
>>
>>
>> As an example, I attached new version of the light-cone.eff
>> I posted few
>> days ago. This one does the same thing but with stencil
>> operations.
>> The .ac model used with this should be almost transparent
>> or it will be
>> too bright.
>>
>> This version has some issue if there is more than 5 light
>> models
>> simultaneously. I don't know if this is a OSG issue about
>> rendering
>> orders or something? But please test and comment.
>>
>> Lauri, a.k.a. Zan
>> --
>> Lauri Peltonen
>> lauri.pelto...@gmail.com
>> 
>
> This are great news! That means we can have now landinglights, cockpitlights 
> etc.
>
> Can't wait to to try this!
>
> Many thanks for this!
>
> Cheers
> Heiko
>
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[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Curtis Olson]

Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it appears
to me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards" we post the
banner on our page with a link back to their site ... drives traffic to
them.  Or maybe this is a prestigious award and I'm just behind on what's
what and who's who these days in the internet world.

Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a "free
car", but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around here, something
like that is usually a lot more trouble than it's worth.  But sounds good on
the face of it, maybe I should post their banner and link so we get more
votes for the free car? :-)

Curt.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Mareike Lang 
Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM
Subject: winner Softonic Awards 2009
To: curt0...@flightgear.org


  

Hi there,



*We have the pleasure to inform you that your program FlightGear has been
elected as the winner in the category “Best Free Game” of the **Softonic
Awards 2009 **, a prize that aims to
acknowledge the best software applications of the year.*





>From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th, 2009 all Softonic users were
able to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw to win a
fantastic car.



 Please find the Softonic Awards winner badge attached to this email, and
feel free to use them on your website!

http://en.softonic.com/awards2009";>http://static.sftcdn.net/en/images/promos/awards09/badges/winner_7_badge.png
"
alt="Softonic Awards 2009 - Winner" border="0"/>






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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,
Softonic is already a known site (well, at least to me) and they are reviewing 
and providing free software.

What I find interesting is this:
-Lacks the professionalism of X-Plane and Microsoft Simulator X
What they understand under professionalism?
CheersHeiko
still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html

But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html

--- Curtis Olson  schrieb am Mi, 27.1.2010:

Von: Curtis Olson 
Betreff: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009
An: "FlightGear developers discussions" 
Datum: Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010, 16:32

Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it appears to 
me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards" we post the banner on 
our page with a link back to their site ... drives traffic to them.  Or maybe 
this is a prestigious award and I'm just behind on what's what and who's who 
these days in the internet world.


Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a "free car", 
but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around here, something like that 
is usually a lot more trouble than it's worth.  But sounds good on the face of 
it, maybe I should post their banner and link so we get more votes for the free 
car? :-)


Curt.

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From: Mareike Lang 


Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM
Subject: winner Softonic Awards 2009
To: curt0...@flightgear.org



















 
  
  
   




Hi there, 
 
We have the
pleasure to inform you that your program FlightGear has been elected as the
winner in the category “Best Free Game” of the Softonic
Awards 2009, a
prize that aims to acknowledge the best software applications of the year. 
 
 
From October 6th, 2009 until
November 30th, 2009 all Softonic users were able to vote for their favourite
candidate and enter a draw to win a fantastic car. 
 

 
  
  
  Please find the Softonic
  Awards winner badge attached to this email, and feel free to use them on
  your website!
  

http://en.softonic.com/awards2009";>http://static.sftcdn.net/en/images/promos/awards09/badges/winner_7_badge.png";

alt="Softonic Awards 2009 - Winner" border="0"/>




 

  
   
  
  
   
Copyright
SOFTONIC INTERNATIONAL S.L. © 2009 - All rights reserved

  
  


  



 



 









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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Victhor Foster]

Professionalism = Good graphics and such, proper company support.

> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Softonic is already a known site (well, at least to me) and they are 
> reviewing and providing free software.
> 
> 
> 
> What I find interesting is this:
> 
> 
> 
> -Lacks the professionalism of X-Plane and Microsoft Simulator X
> 
> 
> 
> What they understand under professionalism?
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Heiko
> 
> 
> still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html
> But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html
> 
> --- Curtis Olson  schrieb am Mi, 27.1.2010:
> 
> Von: Curtis Olson 
> Betreff: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009
> An: "FlightGear developers discussions" 
> 
> Datum: Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010, 16:32
> 
> Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it appears 
> to me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards" we post the 
> banner on our page with a link back to their site ... drives traffic to them. 
>  Or maybe this is a prestigious award and I'm just behind on what's what and 
> who's who these days in the internet world.
> 
> Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a "free car", 
> but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around here, something like 
> that is usually a lot more trouble than it's worth.  But sounds good on the 
> face of it, maybe I should post their banner and link so we get more votes 
> for the free car? :-)
> 
> Curt.
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mareike Lang 
> Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM
> Subject: winner Softonic Awards 2009
> To: curt0...@flightgear.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
>  
> We have the pleasure to inform you that your program FlightGear has been 
> elected as the winner in the category “Best Free Game” of the Softonic Awards 
> 2009, a prize that aims to acknowledge the best software applications of the 
> year.
> 
>  
>  
> From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th, 2009 all Softonic users were able 
> to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw to win a fantastic car.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Please find the Softonic Awards winner badge attached to this email, and feel 
> free to use them on your website!
> 
>  href="http://en.softonic.com/awards2009";> src="http://static.sftcdn.net/en/images/promos/awards09/badges/winner_7_badge.png";
> alt="Softonic Awards 2009 - Winner" border="0"/>
> 
> 
>  
>  
> Copyright SOFTONIC INTERNATIONAL S.L. © 2009 - All rights reserved
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Torsten Dreyer]

> Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it appears
> to me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards" we post the
> banner on our page with a link back to their site ... drives traffic to
> them.  Or maybe this is a prestigious award and I'm just behind on what's
> what and who's who these days in the internet world.
> 
> Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a "free
> car", but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around here, something
> like that is usually a lot more trouble than it's worth.  But sounds good
>  on the face of it, maybe I should post their banner and link so we get
>  more votes for the free car? :-)
Imagine, how many T-Shirt/Mug competions could be run after winning (and 
selling) the car ;-)

Congrats, everybody! You're simply the best, better than all the rest!

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[Flightgear-devel] winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Vic Marriott]

Hi,

 >>>Curt said
"maybe I should post their banner and link so we get more
votes for the free car? :-)" <<<

I read the following to mean their voters entered a draw for the car.

 >>>From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th, 2009 all Softonic  
users were
able to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw to win a
fantastic car.<<<

Vic

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Heiko Schulz]

> Hi,
> 
>  >>>Curt said
> "maybe I should post their banner and link so we get more
> votes for the free car? :-)" <<<
> 
> I read the following to mean their voters entered a draw
> for the car.
> 
>  >>>From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th,
> 2009 all Softonic  
> users were
> able to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw
> to win a
> fantastic car.<<<
> 
> Vic
> 
This year there will be a new award, and any award on our page makes it look 
nice and help against FlightProSim! :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:08:35 -0300, Victhor wrote in message 
<2b5c86c7-f4bb-475b-97e4-8362ac245...@gmail.com>:

..ah.  Maybe we should just wait and see? ;o)

> Professionalism = Good graphics and such, proper company support.
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Softonic is already a known site (well, at least to me) and they
> > are reviewing and providing free software.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I find interesting is this:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Lacks the professionalism of X-Plane and Microsoft Simulator X
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What they understand under professionalism?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Heiko
> > 
> > 
> > still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html
> > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html
> > 
> > --- Curtis Olson  schrieb am Mi, 27.1.2010:
> > 
> > Von: Curtis Olson 
> > Betreff: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009
> > An: "FlightGear developers discussions"
> >  Datum: Mittwoch, 27.
> > Januar 2010, 16:32
> > 
> > Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it
> > appears to me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards"
> > we post the banner on our page with a link back to their site ...
> > drives traffic to them.  Or maybe this is a prestigious award and
> > I'm just behind on what's what and who's who these days in the
> > internet world.
> > 
> > Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a
> > "free car", but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around
> > here, something like that is usually a lot more trouble than it's
> > worth.  But sounds good on the face of it, maybe I should post
> > their banner and link so we get more votes for the free car? :-)
> > 
> > Curt.
> > 
> > 
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Mareike Lang 
> > Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM
> > Subject: winner Softonic Awards 2009
> > To: curt0...@flightgear.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> >  
> > We have the pleasure to inform you that your program FlightGear has
> > been elected as the winner in the category “Best Free Game” of the
> > Softonic Awards 2009, a prize that aims to acknowledge the best
> > software applications of the year.
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th, 2009 all Softonic users
> > were able to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw to
> > win a fantastic car.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Please find the Softonic Awards winner badge attached to this
> > email, and feel free to use them on your website!
> > 
> >  > href="http://en.softonic.com/awards2009";> > src="http://static.sftcdn.net/en/images/promos/awards09/badges/winner_7_badge.png";
> > alt="Softonic Awards 2009 - Winner" border="0"/> 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > Copyright SOFTONIC INTERNATIONAL S.L. © 2009 - All rights reserved
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Rob]

Hi Curt,

The softonic website looks a bit like a softpedia clone, one of these
sites that just out to 'catch' traffic, specially search engine traffic.
They would require some nice incoming links from older high ranked pages
to boost their 'reputation' with search engines fast.  The softpedia
site almost comes up in searches on any type of software. The traffic
they 'catch' lets put it like that, they will sell that traffic to other
sites or are members of revshare programs of certain software package
which they will promote more then others on their site.

Hope of course for the best, that it is legit, but i strongly doubt it.
But i strongly dislike these sites, they pollute search engine indexes.

Kind Regards
EViLSLuT
New enthusiastic pilot :)


On 01/27/2010 04:32 PM, Curtis Olson wrote:
> Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it
> appears to me to be a link exchange ploy ... by giving out "awards" we
> post the banner on our page with a link back to their site ... drives
> traffic to them.  Or maybe this is a prestigious award and I'm just
> behind on what's what and who's who these days in the internet world.
>
> Well, anyway we won!  Woo hoo ... we are now in the running for a
> "free car", but the way those sorts of "prizes" are taxed around here,
> something like that is usually a lot more trouble than it's worth.
>  But sounds good on the face of it, maybe I should post their banner
> and link so we get more votes for the free car? :-)
>
> Curt.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Mareike Lang*  >
> Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM
> Subject: winner Softonic Awards 2009
> To: curt0...@flightgear.org 
>
>
> 
>
> Hi there,
>
>  
>
> **We have the pleasure to inform you that your program FlightGear has
> been elected as the winner in the category “Best Free Game” of the
> Softonic Awards 2009 , a
> prize that aims to acknowledge the best software applications of the
> year.**
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From October 6th, 2009 until November 30th, 2009 all Softonic users
> were able to vote for their favourite candidate and enter a draw to
> win a fantastic car.
>
>  
>
>   
>
> Please find the Softonic Awards winner badge attached to this email,
> and feel free to use them on your website!
>
>  href="http://en.softonic.com/awards2009";> src="http://static.sftcdn.net/en/images/promos/awards09/badges/winner_7_badge.png";
> alt="Softonic Awards 2009 - Winner" border="0"/>
> 
>
>   
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Copyright SOFTONIC INTERNATIONAL S.L. © 2009 - All rights reserved
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Rob Shearman, Jr.]

Curtis Olson:
> "Does anyone here know anything about softonics?  At first glance it appears 
> to me to be a link exchange ploy"

Well, I dunno if you already thought to try this, but changing the link from 
"2009" to "2008" results in a 404 page being displayed... which kinda tells me 
this is the first year for this "award"... leading me to the same conclusion as 
you.  But that's all I can glean; I could be wrong.

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[Flightgear-devel] new MP server / Netherlands

[evilslut]

Hi Pilots!

In Short: new MP server, location: Netherlands, ip 62.129.133.10 default
port 5000

Longer: I'm evilslut, i hang around in the irc channel since recently
again, and you might have seen a pilot crash/fly by with the name 'evilslu'.
I want to help out with FG, however the real cool stuff has a very steep
learning curve, so i decided to start with running a dutch multiplayer
server. The server also runs some gameservers for another game i like to
play, urbanterror, a FPS. killing/peaceful flying like ying/yang  :>
However its a dual quadcore xeon with 16 gbyte of RAM connected 1 gbit
uplink to the net.

If you have any questions or suggestions for the server instance i'm
running, please let me know. I'm really new to FG so all advice and
comments are welcome! Think that is it! Else slap me around on irc.

Kind Regards
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stencil operations for effects and new "light cone"

[Lauri Peltonen]

Hi Patrice, and thanks Heiko!

> There is a detail that I do not manage to sort out, though.
> The effect looks great at day : http://imagebin.org/82128
> but at night, it tends to fill the lit area with grey, overwriting the
> ground texture : http://imagebin.org/82129

Yes, that is an issue, and it is because this "light" is rendered as
kind of an post processing effect. Basically, the current blend mode
just adds the light's color to whatever there is on the screen. And
during night it is mostly black which results in only the light's color
showing up.

I tried with multiplying the existing color values, but again, because
there is just black, the result is not physically correct (the otherwise
hidden details will not become visible).

I don't know if the only real solution is to use real lights for
"critical" lights as Tim suggested, but that is not possible at the
moment. I will try to investigate if I can find some way around this.


> my light cone matierial is as follows : MATERIAL "DefaultWhite" rgb 0.2
> 0.2 0.2  amb 0.2 0.2 0.2  emis 0 0 0  spec 0 0.5 0  shi 64  trans 0.2

This is ok, but I would rather use "rgb 1 1 1 amb 1 1 1" (white cone)
and "trans 0.8" which means the cone is almost invisible. The trans
works the opposite of normal alpha, at least to my experiences.

Only the rgb or amb material is used, the others should have no effect.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: winner Softonic Awards 2009

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,


> Curtis
> Olson:
> > "Does anyone here know anything about softonics?
>  At first glance it appears to me to be a link exchange
> ploy"
> 
> Well, I dunno if you already thought to try this, but
> changing the link from "2009" to "2008"
> results in a 404 page being displayed... which kinda tells
> me this is the first year for this "award"...
> leading me to the same conclusion as you.  But
> that's all I can glean; I could be wrong.
> 
> -R. (MD-Terp)
>  Robert M. Shearman, Jr.
> Transit Operations Supervisor,
> University of Maryland Department of Transportation
> also known as rm...@umd.edu
> 

>From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softonic

"Softonic.com is a software download portal based in Barcelona, Spain.

Founded in 1997, it is Spain's most visited website according to OJD 
statistics[1] and is available in Spanish, German, English, French, Italian, 
Portuguese, Mandarin Chinese and Polish.

The also have an online publication called OnSoftware.com in English, German, 
and Spanish with independent editorial teams, and a computer gaming portal 
called OnGames.com in Spanish."

The german article say a bit more:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softonic

"A Donwload portal founded 1997 for free and open software, and shareware.
First started in spain, and a daughter (?) of Grupo Intercom, it has now a 
german version since Octobre 2004, a english one since novembre 2005 and a 
french one since 2007.

Only the spanish version contain also programs for Linux, the others mainly for 
Windows, Macintosh, Palm, Pocket PC, Mobile Phone.

Money thea get from banner and Link advertisement. Beside gratis download there 
is a also a Premium-service for a fee."



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Gear on Windows

[Tim Moore]

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Melchior FRANZ  wrote:

> * jean pellotier -- Friday 11 December 2009:
> > got something like that too on linux, but guess what? with an ati
> card
>
> I'm better off on Linux (with an nvidia card). I can at least decide
> whether I want clouds *or* material animations broken:
>
>  http://members.aon.at/mfranz/material-shaders.jpg  [54.9 kB]
>
> I believe my recent checkin to simgear and data has fixed the materials
animation + shaders problem.

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[Flightgear-devel] Atlas assert on apt.dat.gz

[Jari Häkkinen]

Hi,

I am cross-posting this to atlas and fg developer lists.


Atlas does not like the current apt.dat.gz because of string 'SOUTH' on 
line 119725:

10  51.889770   -2.162530 SOUTH 174.36080 . .   80 
11 08 0 0 0.25 0 0300.0300

Looking at other lines in apt.dat.gz starting with 10 hints on that 
SOUTH should be changed to S. If the above line is correct the Atlas 
must be changed (assert triggers on line 409 in AirportsOverlay.cxx, 
variable rwyid becomes corrupt).


If the above line is incorrect it would be nice if someone fixes 
apt.dat.gz. If the line is correct please comment on that so I can 
change Atlas to accept SOUTH.


Cheers,

Jari

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Atlas-devel] Atlas assert on apt.dat.gz

[Brian Schack]

> "Jari" == Jari Häkkinen  writes:

Jari> Hi, I am cross-posting this to atlas and fg developer lists.

Jari> Atlas does not like the current apt.dat.gz because of string
Jari> 'SOUTH' on line 119725:

Jari> 10 51.889770 -2.162530 SOUTH 174.360 80 . . 80
Jari> 11 08 0 0 0.25 0 0300.0300

Jari> Looking at other lines in apt.dat.gz starting with 10 hints on
Jari> that SOUTH should be changed to S. If the above line is
Jari> correct the Atlas must be changed (assert triggers on line 409
Jari> in AirportsOverlay.cxx, variable rwyid becomes corrupt).

Jari> If the above line is incorrect it would be nice if someone
Jari> fixes apt.dat.gz. If the line is correct please comment on
Jari> that so I can change Atlas to accept SOUTH.

It appears this entry (and others at the same airport - "NW", "NE",
"SW1", "SW2") are for helipads, since they measure 80'x80'.  According
to the specification for the 810 version airport files, "[h]elipads at
the same airport are numbered sequentially as 'H1x', H2x'."  My guess is
that these should be renamed to H1x, H2x, ...

Brian

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[Flightgear-devel] 777-200ER another little bug

[Patrice Poly]

Hello Syd, thank you for your answers ! I found the ADF, I was searching
for it in the VOR screen, like you said its on the map.
I found the radio, too, digging between seats :)

I experience a nasal error when using the pushback or thrust reverse to
get off the dock :

Nasal runtime error: floating point error in math.sqrt()
at
/home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Nasal/math.nas,
line 12
called from:
/home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
line 121
called from:
/home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
line 215

line 121 is : var FPangle = math.asin(VS/TAS) * 90;

so I presume some value gets negative or null when making the plane go
backwards, the math is not happy, the script hangs, resulting in the AP
panel becoming unusable.

I'm not sure what VS and TAS are, I'd be tempted to take a abs() before
taking asin, but I'm just guessing without knowing.




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 777-200ER another little bug

[syd adams]

Good point , I'll try the abs . That formula continuously calculates the
flight path angle from vertical and forward speed  fpm ... I saw the error
but hadnt figured it out yet  didnt even think about a negative velocity
...
Thanks for that tip :)


I experience a nasal error when using the pushback or thrust reverse to

> get off the dock :
>
> Nasal runtime error: floating point error in math.sqrt()
> at
>
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Nasal/math.nas,
> line 12
> called from:
>
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
> line 121
> called from:
>
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
> line 215
>
> line 121 is : var FPangle = math.asin(VS/TAS) * 90;
>
> so I presume some value gets negative or null when making the plane go
> backwards, the math is not happy, the script hangs, resulting in the AP
> panel becoming unusable.
>
> I'm not sure what VS and TAS are, I'd be tempted to take a abs() before
> taking asin, but I'm just guessing without knowing.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 777-200ER another little bug

[Victhor Foster]

The 777-200ER had a working FPA vertical mode? I thought it was just pitch hold 
:p That's nice.
> Good point , I'll try the abs . That formula continuously calculates the 
> flight path angle from vertical and forward speed  fpm ... I saw the error 
> but hadnt figured it out yet  didnt even think about a negative velocity 
> ...
> Thanks for that tip :)
> 
> 
> I experience a nasal error when using the pushback or thrust reverse to
> get off the dock :
> 
> Nasal runtime error: floating point error in math.sqrt()
> at
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Nasal/math.nas,
> line 12
> called from:
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
> line 121
> called from:
> /home/d2r2/archives/games/flightgear/CVS/Flightgear-CVS/data/Aircraft/777-200/Nasal/AFDS.nas,
> line 215
> 
> line 121 is : var FPangle = math.asin(VS/TAS) * 90;
> 
> so I presume some value gets negative or null when making the plane go
> backwards, the math is not happy, the script hangs, resulting in the AP
> panel becoming unusable.
> 
> I'm not sure what VS and TAS are, I'd be tempted to take a abs() before
> taking asin, but I'm just guessing without knowing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[Ron Jensen]

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:06 +, Pete Morgan wrote:
> I just noticed the info below about localiser on the "Flight Simulation 
> Naviagtion" site
> http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/
> 
> Is there an easy way to determine is the NAV is a Lcoaliser, I cant see 
> that in Prop tree.
> 
> pete

Localizers are found on a few of the NAV frequencies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system#Frequency_list

Here is a nasal function to determine if a frequency is a localizer.  It
accepts a frequency in megahertz and returns "1" if the frequency is an
ILS frequency.


var isILS=func(freq) {
  if(freq < 108.10) return 0;
  if(freq > 111.95) return 0;
  var bar=int((freq+0.001)*10)-int(freq)*10;
  return(bits.test(bar,0));
}


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Newbie Question

[Ron Jensen]

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:33 +, Peter Meyer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Can some one tell me how excatly i can cvs checkout the latest Source?
> In the Manuals are only Version 0.9 is described but i want to acces the 
> latest 
> Stable and Devel sources. I have try to Modify Flightgear-0.9 to 1.9 and 
> 1.9.1 but 
> it didnt work for me. Is there any "uptodate" Developer Faq or readme out 
> there?
> Hint: I want to compile the Sources on Win 64-Bit with MSVC2008 SP1
> 
> Greetings, Peter

Hi Peter, and welcome.

For historical reasons the flightgear cvs directory is still called
Flightgear-0.9.  Its too difficult to make changing it worth while.

Ron



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

[syd adams]

you can also check the instrumentation/nav/nav-loc , but it seems to stay
stuck on true if you tune another frequency that's out of range or
invalid... not sure when that broke.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Ron Jensen  wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:06 +, Pete Morgan wrote:
> > I just noticed the info below about localiser on the "Flight Simulation
> > Naviagtion" site
> > http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/
> >
> > Is there an easy way to determine is the NAV is a Lcoaliser, I cant see
> > that in Prop tree.
> >
> > pete
>
> Localizers are found on a few of the NAV frequencies:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system#Frequency_list
>
> Here is a nasal function to determine if a frequency is a localizer.  It
> accepts a frequency in megahertz and returns "1" if the frequency is an
> ILS frequency.
>
>
> var isILS=func(freq) {
>  if(freq < 108.10) return 0;
>  if(freq > 111.95) return 0;
>  var bar=int((freq+0.001)*10)-int(freq)*10;
>  return(bits.test(bar,0));
> }
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Atlas-devel] Atlas assert on apt.dat.gz

[Gijs de Rooy]

Morning guys,
 
> Brian wrote:
> It appears this entry (and others at the same airport - "NW", "NE",
> "SW1", "SW2") are for helipads, since they measure 80'x80'. According
> to the specification for the 810 version airport files, "[h]elipads at
> the same airport are numbered sequentially as 'H1x', H2x'." My guess is
> that these should be renamed to H1x, H2x, ...

hm, that's probably introduced by my EGBJ update. The helipads at that 
airport are numbered like SW... in real life, but I did not check if FG/Atlas
can handle it. I'll have a look this afternoon.
 
Cheers,
Gijs
  
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