[foss-nepal] Re: WISH YOU HAPPY VIJAYA DASHAMI

[Prasanna Gautam]

Happy Bijaya Dashami to all.. Darn, we're in 2066 already?
Prasanna Gautam


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, muna thapa wrote:

>
>
> *wish you A very happy and peaceful Vijaya Dashami 2066*
>
> **
> *THANK YOU,*
> *MUNA THAPA*
>
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> Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ 
> now<http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try+bing_1x1>
>

Ahem, Ironic on a FOSS Mailing list I'd say.

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[foss-nepal] Re: Arduino Presentation.

[Prasanna Gautam]

Prasanna Gautam


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Ujwal Shrestha  wrote:

> I'm planning to have a presentation on arduino for SFD09.
> any suggestion?



If you still have the accelerometer, I'd say go over interfacing that with
arduino and maybe move something in screen, like some 3D plane. Oh yeah,
post it online so that all can see.



>
>
> p.s. sorry to have this posting after a long long gap.
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[foss-nepal] Re: suggestion to sfd event

[Prasanna Gautam]

If some people are into modding quake engine and stuff, maybe that will
attract some people? Cube 2 is pretty good. Something like running a Counter
Strike server on Linux can give you a better performance. Even a crappy
headless server performs well for that sort of thing. Gamers would be
interested in that sort of thing I think.

Prasanna Gautam


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Deeps  wrote:

>
> in my opinion linux gaming should be added in upcoming sfd:
> ...because
> ..most of the users think there is no 3d gaming in linux
> ..one reason due to which some users do not migrate to
> linux is they think they cannot ..play 3d games in
> linux
>
>
> if linux gaming would be added it would be better...
> >
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[foss-nepal] Re: Try Google Lively a new way to chat

[Prasanna Gautam]

I've always found these things way too gimmicky... ok there are people whose
life sucks enough to seek solace online but, come on... It might catch on
but I'd much rather prefer the real world. At least it's not dependent on
what "physics engine" is being used, or your network latency hehe
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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> i think online isntaller doesn't work in wine...
> >
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[foss-nepal] RMS's reply to a MIT mailing list

[Prasanna Gautam]

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3116/rmsll5.png
Heh, sometimes you feel is it going too far?
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[foss-nepal] Re: Google Policy Fellowship - deadline Dec. 12

[Prasanna Gautam]

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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
>> wow... google seems to be applying itself everywhere... :) Excellent,
>> geekiness is going mainstream.. I wonder when the day would come when
>> governments will be decided by optimal algorithms..
>
>
> i hope it doesnt count attractiveness :p
>
depends on the interpretation of "attractiveness"
Google will find a geek far more attractive to hire than a  welll
someone "just good looking" but I get a feeling, chances might be better if
two of those are combined... :P 
OK.. offtopic stuff...

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[foss-nepal] Re: Google Policy Fellowship - deadline Dec. 12

[Prasanna Gautam]

wow... google seems to be applying itself everywhere... :) Excellent,
geekiness is going mainstream.. I wonder when the day would come when
governments will be decided by optimal algorithms..
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Zico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Shankar Pokharel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> $7000 for next summer -- students, this is for you:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/policyfellowship/
>
>
> As i can see, this is not for us, the people from Asia!
>
> --
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>
> Z
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[foss-nepal] Re: Fennec: Mobile Browser from Mozilla

[Prasanna Gautam]

I think mobile is WebKit all the way :)... although Fennec looks really
good... it might be hard to shake WebKit's firmhold.
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Mozilla's latest browser "Fennec", specifically designed for mobile
> devices has finally been released. Currently, it is only available for
> the Nokia N810 platform. Support for other platforms is planned for
> the future. Ars Technica has a review of the new browser. If you are
> interested in getting involved, but don't have a Nokia N810, you can
> install it on your desktop (Windows, Linux and OS X) and experiment
> with it.
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081020-hands-on-fennec-alpha-1-puts-firefox-on-your-handheld.html
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/#start
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Releases
>
> Though there is new forum for news i think there are not much members
> subscribing it
> >
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[foss-nepal] Re: Fwd: (Survey) Do you read the mails?

[Prasanna Gautam]

How about using something like Google Docs Forms for this kind of thing next
time?

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Bibek Paudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

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> -- Forwarded message ------
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> Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: (Survey) Do you read the mails?
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>
> 1.
> b.
> 2.
> c, Kinda sorta case here because I haven't done this for a while.
> 4.
> c. Probably
> 5.
> Perhaps improved quality on tech discussions.
> 6.
> I think it's fine as it is because if we start creating walls between
> newbie-zones and techie-zones and things as such, it hinders
> productive discussions in general and the work would involve more
> putting messages into boxes, which isn't very fun to do and being n00b
> and 1337 is often a matter of perspective and doesn't actually serve
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> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bibek Paudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Send SMSes in Nepali Unicode in S60 v2

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi to all,
> how am i supposed to send sms in nepali unicode in symbian (nokia
> nseries)...

If I remember correctly, it used to work for Nokia to Nokia, the phone did
the work but not for others. You can look for Hindi language set and send
SMS.. I don't know of any Nepali language set from Nokia yet.

>
> Thanks to all
> >
>


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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Localizing firefox addons!!

[Prasanna Gautam]

I haven't done translating myself but this might be useful.
http://www.osnews.com/story/18113/Firefox_Add-ons_Coding_in_a_Tunnel

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to localize firefox addons?  I have tried using
> http://www.babelzilla.org but i could not find Nepali language and also
> didnt know how to proceed further.
>
> Can anyone help me out?
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: installation of windows

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Prahmod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> well guys just got a call from my fren.presently he has fedora installed
> on his system.but he wants to go for windows.he wants to install
> windows.but has a problem,whenever he inserts the windows bootable disc
> and presses any key after it asks for "press any key to boot from cd"
> then the other screen holds on for about a minute or something like that
> and returns back to the fedora.
>   is the fedora not letting him install windows2 of my frens
>
have got the same problem.guys help them to get out of this.
>


Looks like the problem is with the CD, not fedora. BIOS takes care of
the booting and any other operating system bootloader isn't involved in
it, if the booting fails from the CD, the BIOS takes the immediate next
booting device ( hard drive in this case)


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>
>Prahmod
>
>
> >
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: what is your view on domain names written in scripts?

[Prasanna Gautam]

I think it's good to have script/unicode domain names but I find it
absolutely ridiculous to open up internet to the possible anarchy of all the
domain names that are going to sprout up after this is opened up. Granted
some people want to have some fancy name for themselves (granted they have a
hundred thousand dollars and some server hardware lying around), it is
ridiculous that some legitimate site in the future wouldn't be able to get
toplevel domain name because it was granted already. What if we have a new
country that needs a new Top level domain name?
What if we go to moon and mars and want to get that?
Although opening for unicode works for all of us and can be seen as an
inclusive gesture, I don't find the 'opening' of the internet top level
domains to be so spectacular. The idea with .com, .org, .net and the country
level domain names was to provide a structure and identification to
individuals and companies and have a standard. ICANN was setup to maintain
that standard as a governing body. Unfortunately, the registrars didn't
quite follow the initial plans and domains became quite profitable business
to some.
Who knows what kind of word we might use in 10 years and what kind of domain
names we might want then? (Did you anticipate the word 'blog' in 1993?) I
think ICANN should open it up a little bit at a time and according to the
needs. Say, facebook.social myspace.social for say social networking sites,
.blog for blogs or whatever but a few at a time and still maintain the
current hierarchy. The hierarchy provides structure to the internet and
these actions might just break the internet as we know it or make some nice
little walled gardens for some... with people playing premiums to view their
favorite .xxx domains.
It will be interesting to see how this will be 'regulated'


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:57 PM, jaHsaaymi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I like it. Why restrict, where it is possible... Unicode works, Many
> people use non-english stuff, Why restrict the internet domain names
> to english...
>

> Great!
>
> On Jun 27, 11:25 am, "Ujwal Shrestha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > +1 KOOL
> > Regards
> > Ujwal
> >
> > On 6/27/08, suVasH. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > looks cool
> >
> > > lets see if it gets >really< useful
> >
> > > suVasH.
> >
> > > On 6/27/08, Jitendra kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:02 AM, bibstha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Great news!!
> > >>> It means now we can have domain names like फस . नेपाल ?
> >
> > >> Yup, it is really a  great news.  Finally the goal that was set in
> 1998 is
> > >> complete after 10 years. I am desperate to watch ur dream domain come
> true,
> > >> bibek :).
> >
> > >>> On Jun 26, 11:57 pm, Ankur Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > Ke ho shankar naya flame war suru garney tarkhar ma ho ki kya ho ;)
> > >>> > On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Shankar Pokharel wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > Domain names written in scripts has been finally approved by
> ICANN,
> >
> > >>> > > BBC writes:
> > >>> > > The net's regulator, Icann, voted unanimously to relax the strict
> > >>> > > rules on so-called "top-level" domain names, such as .com or .uk.
> >
> > >>> > > A second proposal, to introduce domain names written in scripts,
> such
> > >>> > > as Asian and Arabic, was also approved.
> >
> > >>> > > Full article at:
> > >>> > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm
> >
> > >>> > > What do you think about it?
> >
> > >>> > > $nkr
> >
> > --
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: After South Africa; India, Brazil next to take issue with Open XML

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
> http://www.betanews.com/article/India_Brazil_next_to_take_issue_with_Open_XML/1212163565

Didn't India reject it already?
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/24/116&from=rss

>
> >
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: OT: A chance to go to space

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> This is interesting.
> I may not witness human lands on Mars. I may not even visit the Moon.

You sound sad, SETI will find some aliens that'll abduct you there ... :)


>
> But, this project surely makes our name into space:
> http://namesinspace.seti.org/launch/blastoff?serial=18557
>
Interesting link nonetheless. By the way, I just discovered this nifty thing
that gmail pops up over links that lets you test, edit links...

> :)
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Election Commission website only for IE users

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> Thank you for your reply, Jyoti. I am glad that you like Mozilla
> Firefox.
>
> I have to concede that a default installation of Mozilla Firefox 2 on
> Apple  Mac OS X 10.4 does not work very well with devnagari script.
> However, I no longer had the problem in Firefox 3. Firefox 3 has made
> many changes and will be available as a final product for the public
> (yay!) VERY soon (we already have a release candidate or two, and I am
> actually using a nightly build of Mozilla Firefox 3, aka Minefield
> right now to type this email). Devnagari seems to work pretty well in
> Youtube as well as in eKantipur. Please take Mozilla Firefox 3 for a
> spin on your website when it is publicly released.
>
> I hope we fare better with Firefox 3.

Try with the release candidates. IMO, it's still not so good out of the
box but fine enough...


>
>
> Sincerely,
> Kushal
>
> On Apr 14, 11:56 pm, Jyoti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > dear all,
> >  I am among of the developer of this site and sorry for miss
> > understood...
> > Actually we r familiar with the IE pop up and we prefer to give that
> > message due to font problem in Mozilla ...but that don't mean that we
> > are less capable of making all browser compatible site ..it is cause
> > we here have a data collected long back 10 years old and all then they
> > have collected the data in PCS NEPAL font so we had to develop the
> > site in PCS NEPAL font and this font has some problem with the MOZILLA
> > Firefox.
> >Although We do prefer Mozilla Firefox as our debuging brouser and
> > we do testing and compilation in Mozilla Firefox it self we are
> > dependable in IE. 
> > As IE being an standard Browser and most common one, we recommended
> > all our viewer to view our site in IE. Not a big deal na..?
> > We could have gone to Unicode but due to rush in time we have to
> > ignore it. Although the site used PHP ,DB2 as its platform it is able
> > to accommodate many tools and techno. too  like Java, Python. Flash
> > etc  the site has its own standard. We have also gone through security
> > venerability test and it is perfect no loss of data. We might be
> > little late in result  processing cause we need a authenticated data
> > only, but we give you a verified and  authorized result that for
> > sure... thank you all
> >
> > Any comments please you guys are well -come
>
> >
>


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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Download Day 2008! Help set a world record!!

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hell yeah,
 I have some nifty plans to get the numbers up that night... heheheh.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Shankar Pokharel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I hope most of you are already aware about it. For those who are not,
>
> Tuesday, 17th June is the download day (
> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/)
>
>
> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/11/coming-tuesday-june-17th-firefox-3/
>
> $nkr
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Shankar Pokharel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Some records are big. Some are amazing. And then there are some that are
>> simply crazy. Have you helped set any wacky records? If not, you can do it
>> now:
>> Download Firefox 3 on THE DAY and contribute to *the attempt to set a
>> world record for the most software downloads in 24 hours* which will
>> occur on *Firefox 3* launch day.
>>
>> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/getinvolved
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Snkr
>>
>
>
> >
>


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[FOSSNepal] Re: Facing Problems in Localization

[Prasanna Gautam]

That's a great idea. I wonder if MPP has such a conversion database. Often, we 
have to concoct what translates to what everytime any translation endeavor is 
attempted.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Is Linux Sysadmin on high demand in your country?

[Prasanna Gautam]

Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can someone tell me a little whether Linux Sysadmin is on high demand in your 
> country? If so, are there many foreigners filling the vacancies?
> So far, based on my limited observation in Indonesia, the demand is quite 
> high. But finding the "right" one is not easy, in terms of needed skills and 
> acceptable salaries. Ones who are already skillful often ask too high 
> salaries and those who are willing to work from the ground up are often 
> too "newbie" to give acceptable contribution for the company.
> How is the situation in your country?
>   
I guess getting a good sysadmin is hard everywhere but it's a nice skill
to have anyways. I think most of the good sysadmin work inside ISPs or
large corporations anyways, and the work done inside is really hard to
judge even if they work on OSS stuff because either a lot of the stuff
is so routine or so related to the company's security that it can't be
declassified.

I think some requirements for a good sysadmin now are:
* Being able to work on multiple platforms.. at least having idea/skill
on stuff like LDAP, NIS... at least making Windows and linux talk better
* Understanding networks and security scenarios and being able to react
fast.
* Communication skills  It's often the case that sysadmins don't
communicate too effectively or assume too much, u might want to avoid that.
* Interest in learning new things --- it might actually payoff someone
who knows some useful skills with an interest in developing skills than
someone who knows what's "hot" now but not too enthused in learning new
tricks.


Of course these are rather generic. Often times, it depends from company
to company. A small company might be good with a different skill set
than a larger one. Also, in places like Nepal, often one person is
managing many places too which can be both a good thing or bad.


> Thank you.
>   


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[FOSSNepal] ubuntu.org.np

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hi Everyone,
  ubuntu.org.np has been in existence for a while. I believe a week or so.
I'm not exactly sure how many people know about this already but this is
more or less official notification for participation in the community. So
far, some of us have been working on getting new articles and tutorials up
and trying to make use of this new domain. I'm opening this new thread for
questions and answers and ideas about how we can build a strong community
around ubuntu.org.np. Some of the things that are apparent right now are:
A new theme--- a more nepal oriented theme
Mailing list categories-- what do you want to discuss specifically in
ubuntu.org.np

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS-Nepal newsletter

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Himanshu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
> I was wondering if someone could put the foss-nepal newsletter
> online for those of us that don't have a way to get access to the hard
> copy.

+1 from me


>
> -Himanshu
> >
>


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[FOSSNepal] Re: Sun Tech Days and OpenSolaris

[Prasanna Gautam]

I just found this message while I was experimenting with gnus in 
emacs and I found this. Heh, first time sending reply using 
gnus. Ok, that's another story.

I have been really interested in solaris for a while and for many 
reasons it feels more stable than the current linux distros. I 
have been playing around with it in my vmware and some features 
like dtrace are rather cool. 

We really need to have more discussion about distros like FreeBSD, 
solaris apart from Linux too. Often times, that's where a lot of 
innovation is going on which then gets borrowed into linux. I 
still wont switch to freebsd or solaris(too much of a learning 
curve for everyday tasks... other than proving a point that it 
"can be done").

However, for a desktop user, I don't think it would matter a lot 
what they use because whichever linux, BSD flavour you use, you do 
end up with similar desktops with almost the same tools. I'm 
assuming all the drivers and stuff are configured already. On the 
other hand, at the server side, it does matter which tools you 
use. Solaris and FreeBSD are more mature in some tasks which 
sometimes makes them more suitable.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: least fools day.

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Himanshu Chhetri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> In a shocking confession Linus claims to have switched to using Windows
> Vista as his primary OS and abandoned the development and maintenance of the
> Linux Kernel.

Haha, nice one...

>
> -Himanshu
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ujwal (RUBBOT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > late night with jokes that say's still more ( somthing is lacking).
> > {
> > In recent studies from a random and important university it has been
> > found that KDE project supports privative software. As the studies
> > say: almost a 87% of developers prefer Microsoft Windows Notepad to
> > Kate. Same happens with Microsoft Windows Media Player to Amarok in a
> > heavier percentage: 93%.
> > On the other hand, as the study points out it is really amazing that
> > almost a 100% of KDE developers prefer C# to C++. As the asked
> > developers answered, almost a 96% would rewrite KDE in plain C.
> > The 24% of developers would vote "No" if they were asked to support
> > the OOXML spec. On the other hand, a 76% would vote "Yes".
> > Anyway, what's really impressive on the study is that we are working
> > with SVN when the 105% of developers prefer CVS.
> > Happy fools day :)
> > }
> > reference:
> > http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=93
> >
> > HAPPY APRIL FOOL.
> > regards
> > Ujwal
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>


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[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam updates

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hey guys,
  We are planning to get  a server running for the Ubuntu Nepal Team. It's
closer than you'd think ;). So, we need a nice little logo for our site..
Can we throw in some ideas and get it done soon?

Here are some inspirations
ubuntu-in.org
ubuntu-au.org

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[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hey everyone,
  We just created a page at ubuntu.com for the NepalTeam.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam

Feel free to discuss/add remove ideas for the todos...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam/Todo

How about having one of these ? Hardy release party...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties

It's coming soon though :)

Piney ka bahana chahiye...:P

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[FOSSNepal] Re: My latest gnome desktop

[Prasanna Gautam]

Very apple-esque,

Good job :)

प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote:
> With the use of Various artworks and applications I finally got this 
> desktop. I this nothing more to this will be good.
>
> Please help me if i could improve my Gnome desktop.
>
> Regards,
> -- 
> Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> Registered Linux User #443940
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
>
> 
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[FOSSNepal] Re: [Important] CAN Infotech Details

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Jan 28, 2008 1:58 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On 1/28/08, Hempal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Also,
> >
> > I remember this was the poster that Ankur had designed in SFD 2006 can
> > be a good candidate for the FLEX Print:
>
>
>
> my +1
>

 +1 from me too.. looks good!


>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Asking questions

[Prasanna Gautam]

I came across this one again and seemed like a nice thing to refer from
whenever we need to solve something or ask someone.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
I think it will be useful for discussions and to avoid long and often
useless flame wars. If you find some good resources like this. Forward them
here.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Pidgin password advisory

[Prasanna Gautam]

I think the problem is a bit more acute in windows because of easier access
to malwares although it can't be underestimated in linux.

On Jan 18, 2008 12:03 PM, Bipin Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  in windows too Pidgin stores the plain text password in
> %userprofile%\../.purple/   folder in plain text with all email of
> your conacts and when uninstalled doesnt clear the folder and password
> file.
>
> IM contacts stored locally can be used by mailware to SPAM is a long known
> issue
>
> but as the password is stored under your home directory the FS
> permission should take cair of security, though in corporate
> environment this might be a little problem. other apps that has option
> to store password also store passowrd in encoded form anyways.
>
There are some other applications but I really believe that pidgin should at
least have some option for people to choose. I was taken a bit by surprise
that they do so for windows environment too.

>
> in windows you could use the default encrypted file system feature and
> transperently encrypt the folder same goes with *nix system
> encrypt your home directory.
>
AFAIK, NTFS's encryption system is pretty good but a general user barely
uses that and it can be a rather serious flaw when it comes down to the
average joe's computer full of games and spams and stuff... it can be
enticing target to some malware makers.

>
> better option is to remember your IM password instead of storing it as
> it could float around in unallocated space of your hdd even long after
> deleted!
>
Oh yeah. It has been long known that some applications do save some stuff in
registry and in that respect pidgin does a better job when you uninstall it,
at least you don't have the fear of easy access from registry... although
you can still access a deleted file from an unencrypted drive (if you know
where to look for :) not too sure people would bother to do that.

>
> On Jan 18, 2008 12:30 AM, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :)
> good
> > stuff,eh?
> > http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
> > Here's the reason why.
> > If you want to look at it...  it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml
> > I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across.
> > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html
> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Prasanna Gautam
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> X-No-Archive:
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Pidgin password advisory

[Prasanna Gautam]

Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :) good
stuff,eh?
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
Here's the reason why.
If you want to look at it...  it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml
I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across.
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html

Have a nice day,
Prasanna Gautam

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[FOSSNepal] Re: .NET Framework Library Source Code now available

[Prasanna Gautam]

Now we can get mono working better on linux boxes?

On Jan 17, 2008 4:45 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> The veil has been lifted, you may now kiss the bride (er, code).
>
>
> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/01/16/net-framework-library-source-code-now-available.aspx
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: SFD 2007 Prize has arrived!

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hmm.. I'd vote for SecondLife Party... heh.. for a change. IRC is also
good... :)

On Jan 16, 2008 3:29 AM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 11:43:16AM +1100, Ekta Silwal wrote:
> > Congrats, subir dai and to all foss nepal team.
> > Certainly we need a party for that .. lets celebrate
> in
> > IRC what do yu say nepbabu, i am sure subir dai and team doesn't want to
> > miss us during the celebration. hehehe
>
> Sure Ekta di. :-) We can use IRC for that occassion. No problemo ;-) Or,
> we can all even use secondlife[0] and go to one of the disco there? ;)
>
> [0] http://secondlife.com/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bikal.
> GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Only on windows

[Prasanna Gautam]

I saw a BSOD on one of the college ATMs one day. Been scared to use it ever
since.. heh.

On Jan 11, 2008 3:44 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Song wents...
> It happens only in Windows!!!
>
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 1:51 PM, geshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Have a look at this, its fun.
> >
> > http://www.2spare.com/item_92626.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: OT: writing upside down :)

[Prasanna Gautam]

is there a IRC plugin for this? heh.. will be fun...

On Jan 9, 2008 3:52 AM, Basanta Karki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think this is for people who know how to play gymnastics
>
> hehe ;-)
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 11:18 AM, Himanshu Chhetri <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
>
> > I have been having fun all afternoon sending IMs with flipped
> > text...hehe thanks for sharing.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2008 10:57 PM, Zico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 9, 2008 7:31 AM, Fajar Priyanto < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ˙˙˙uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ sƃuıɥʇ llɐ
> > > > (: ɹɐǝu sı plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ɟo puǝ ǝɥʇ
> > > > 'llɐ ıɥ
> > > >
> > > > It's on http://www.en.fliptext.net/ :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nice man!
> > >
> > > But, what`s the purpose of this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > > Z
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Mr Bill Gates at his finest

[Prasanna Gautam]

That was funny. Nice to see him having a sense of humor. Its rare to have
people  laugh at themselves.:)

On Jan 8, 2008 9:35 PM, Himanshu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Dear FOSSians,
> This is a very hilarious self-parody by non other
> than Bill Gates himself :
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEgINHXQds
>
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: KDE Released!!!!

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hmm.. gotta try again. I had to remove kde4 rc2 due to some conflicts with
apt.  There are some innovative features in KDE for sure and might be the
answer to the more  "eye-candy seeking" linux users too. On the more
functional side, it seems to add some nifty features but sometimes the lack
of proper documentation for some features on the site might be  deterrent to
some programmers to start developing on the new platform just yet. The best
thing about KDE4 imo is that it can run on windows too [Thanks to qt4] so
that people can ease up on the movement to linux and linux nerds won't miss
their favorite apps if forced to use windows for development.


On Jan 13, 2008 1:58 AM, Himanshu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I installed KDE4 and it looks interesting but not refined enough for
> mainstream consumption yet IMHO.
> -Himanshu
>
> On Jan 12, 12:58 pm, "Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  KDE Project Ships Fourth Major Version of cutting edge Free Software
> > Desktop
> >  With the fourth major version, the KDE Community marks the beginning
> > of the KDE 4 era.
> >
> > Applications
> >
> > * Konqueror is KDE's established web browser. Konqueror is light-
> > weight, well integrated, and supports the newest standards such as CSS
> > 3.
> > * Dolphin is KDE's new file manager. Dolphin has been developed
> > with usability in mind and is an easy-to-use, yet powerful tool.
> > * With System Settings, a new control center interface has been
> > introduced. The KSysGuard system monitor makes it easy to monitor and
> > control system resources and activity.
> > * Okular, the KDE 4 document viewer, supports many formats. Okular
> > is one of the many KDE 4 applications that has been improved in
> > collaboration with the OpenUsability Project.
> > * Educational Applications are among the first applications that
> > have been ported and developed using KDE 4 technology. Kalzium, a
> > graphical periodic table of elements and the Marble Desktop Globe are
> > only two of many gems among the educational applications. Read more
> > about Educational Applications in the Visual Guide.
> > * Lots of the KDE Games have been updated. KDE Games such as
> > KMines, a minesweeper game and KPat, a patience game have had
> > facelifts. Thanks to new vector artwork and graphical capabilities,
> > the games have been made more resolution independent.
> >
> > Detailshttp://kde.org/announcements/4.0/
> >
> > Ujjwol Lamichhane
> > UJJWOLINUX
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] site specific browser: prism

[Prasanna Gautam]

I recently came across a nice little application from mozilla, called prism.
Ok, it was disappointing when released because back then because it had only
support for windows. Now it has support for linux and mac OSx. It spawns an
independent browser for any web application you need. My primary need was to
run gmail, google docs independent of firefox and still be able to browse..
and security. Its like running your web application in it's own small
sandbox.

Here's the link: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism/

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Happy New Year 2008

[Prasanna Gautam]

May 2008 be more fossible!!

On Dec 31, 2007 11:33 AM, Ananta Bhadra Lamichhanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
>
> *Happy New Year 2008
> May this year bring your more brightful days to your life!!*
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] O_oO online

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hey OpenOffice.org has been released as online version by ulteo
http://www.ulteo.com/home/ooo

The best part of this one as compared to other solutions given by other
companies is it has the whole OpenOffice.org package inside. It's like using
the application itself. I think it's a much better idea compared to using an
ajax or similar implementation. Loading time is quite slow... Maybe because
of load on the server due to slashdot/digg effect perhaps.

Great work though.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 17, 2007 10:16 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ya really good work..
>
> i especially liked the javascript thingy which allows u to type in nepali
> without installing the actual keyboard layout in ur computer..
>
> would be gr8 if u guys also release an api or similar stuff to access the
> dictionary through external tool..
>
> anyways, gr8 work.. really useful..
>
> regards,
> jwalanta
>
I'd like to second that! It's a great thing to have for small applications
and for OLPC if an API is released.

>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 4:55 PM, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
>
> > Really good work there.I liked the  use of javascript to enable the
> > keyboard to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use
> > this in Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs?
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of
> > > Contemporary Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha
> > > Sanchar Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the
> > > first corpus-based dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members
> > > interested can visit the site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the
> > > dictionary. Any suggestions or feedbacks regarding the interface or 
> > > features
> > > of dictionary would be highly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs
> > > of the project, most of which are open source.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Best Wishes,
> > > Srishtee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!

[Prasanna Gautam]

Really good work there.I liked the  use of javascript to enable the keyboard
to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use this in
Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs?

On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of Contemporary
> Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha Sanchar Project,
> Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the first corpus-based
> dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members interested can visit the
> site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the dictionary. Any suggestions
> or feedbacks regarding the interface or features of dictionary would be
> highly appreciated.
>
> Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs of
> the project, most of which are open source.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Best Wishes,
> Srishtee
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Drupal How to makes News at CMS Wire

[Prasanna Gautam]

Great.. it's awesome.. Try to keep it up guys..

On Dec 10, 2007 12:02 AM, geshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Dear All
>
> I'm not bragging about it but I think the drupal how to YIPL made is
> really worth a read. CMSwire.com a site that give news review and
> resources of CMS has a news about our DRUPAL HOW TO at
>
>
> http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/nepalese-drupal-beginners-guide-50-tricks-not-to-miss-002018.php
>
> Entitled: Nepalese Drupal Beginners Guide + 50 Tricks Not to Miss
>
> It says:
>
> Now there's a headline you never thought you'd see. Young Innovations,
> a Drupal development firm from the mystical land of Nepal, has
> released a beginners guide, in English, for the Drupal open source web
> content management system. Drupal how to For Beginners was developed
> by Young Innovations in conjunction with SAP, and is freely available
> under a Creative Commons license.
>
> Running to 94 pages and with screenshots-aplenty, the guide is
> comprehensive. The scope is similarly broad - beginning with an
> explanation of what a CMS is (as if anybody knows anymore...), and
> continues through installation, management, customization, and adding
> modules.
>
> 
>
>
> It adds:
>
> Young Innovations should have called this 'Goldilocks Teaches Drupal',
> because everything is just about right.
>
> Right length, right level of complexity, right amount of 'dumbing
> down' for less technical folk -- within their stated audience of semi-
> HTML proficient persons, right balance between explanation and overt
> instruction.
>
> So download it here http://www.mediafire.com/?fvt2jxsdxvs
>
> Geshan
> YIPL Rocks
>
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Best IDE for C development on Linux

[Prasanna Gautam]

I would still bet on eclipse with cdt.. learning curve might not seem all to
worth it.. but definitely useful after you get over it.. i can't really get
my head around emacs for c++ yet.. netbeans... well... I wont try it until
Sun comes up with a really good reason..

On Dec 8, 2007 3:27 PM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:24:08PM -0800, prob wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can anyone suggest the best IDE for C development on Linux, based on
> > your experience.
>
> Makefile, gcc/g++, Vim. Those suit my need but sometimes I use Eclipse
> with CDT as well.
>
> > I'm currently using  Eclipse CDT on Fedora 6 (not the crap that comes
> > by default, I removed that and downloaded/installed the one from
> > eclipse.org). Its kind of OK, but I'm looking for something better,
>
> I don't think there's anything better than Eclipse if you are looking for
> the whole shebang. You could give Anjuta a try like Jwalanta said but I'd
> bet my time & money on (Eclipse) or (Makefile, gcc/g++ and Vim).
>
> > especially the interface. I've also used Netbeans. I liked the
> > interface. Spacious too. But always had problem with indexing etc.,  I
>
> Netbeans? Whoah! Is Sun moving to C++ now or what? Like Jwalanta said, try
> all and use what you like. There's no 'one size fits all' solution. :)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bikal.
> GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
> "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

[Prasanna Gautam]

I don't think it's too hard... i think it's doable if implemented as a add
on like some apps... venkman is a nice example... or sth else... in the
lines of the google notebook so that u can just put in a shortcut and this
thing pops up.. even better cud be a feature that opens all the ftp and
stuff in nautilus like interface inside firefox so that u can drag drop
things into folders... considering that ff3 can also browse inside archives,
this can be a great feature to have.. I'm not totally sure how you would
interface mozilla with the implementations though.

On Dec 7, 2007 10:21 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Dec 7, 2007 8:56 PM, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has
> > integrated sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside
> > firefox  or any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea
> > how I put this on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice
> > to have it like lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts..
> >
>
>
> ya a shell inside firefox would be really really cool.. ff would be the
> ultimate home then.. ;)
>
> n btw, there's a way we can get the terminal onto desktop. that means,
> shell on desktop without icons n all.. have a look.
> http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress/20070905/how-to-create-a-transparent-terminal-session-as-your-desktop-background/
>
>
> this hack uses a cool software called devilspie (
> http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie), maybe we can also do the same with
> hotwire too..
>
> hotwire on desktop.. wont it be cool? start hackin..
>
> regards,
> jwalanta
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

[Prasanna Gautam]

ok... let's integrate it into the system itself.. i'll work on this thing
over the weekend... if someone comes up with some ideas, to the possible
measure, I'll integrate it... :)

On Dec 7, 2007 10:12 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> really cool
>
> 've started to use this already..
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2007 7:11 AM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote:
> > > Really cool,
> > > Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls
> > hotwire
> > .
> >
> > Looks like a nice toy to have. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Bikal.
> > GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
> > "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
> >
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

[Prasanna Gautam]

Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has integrated
sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside firefox  or
any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea how I put this
on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice to have it like
lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts..

On Dec 7, 2007 8:26 PM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote:
> > Really cool,
> > Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls
> hotwire
> .
>
> Looks like a nice toy to have. :-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bikal.
> GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
> "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
>

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[FOSSNepal] hotwire your life

[Prasanna Gautam]

Hey guys, I just pretty much (re)discovered a really awesome tool
hotwire
that lets you combine ur shell working habits with gui... like how many
times have u wanted ur 'rm'ed files to go to trash instead of going blip?
also, when have u thought you would rather click on those lsed files than
type another command to run.. oh yeah that happens when i'm working with
images... just give it a shot
http://code.google.com/p/hotwire-shell/


btw.. i had a minor problem due to the icons because it wasn't taking the
icons nicely...
i had to edit /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/hotwire_ui/shell.py file
and changed iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('hotwire',
24, 0)
to iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('python', 24, 0)
minor thing.. but was halting the startup nonetheless...
something worth seeing

also the installation scripts are
python setup.py build
and
sudo python setup.py install


this was on ubuntu 7.10, the version on the site is slightly outdated.. so
compiling is better

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 7, 2007 2:49 AM, Ujwal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is not the Realtek's ethernet. Probably the IC is from realtek. As i
> know Debian 4.0 got the driver for you.
> have you installed pppoe * softwares... ?
>
Oh yeah... i had a terrible time with those things ug there was
this silan or some other card by intex that didn't work on the 2.6 whatever
i did... i think it had worked once... but not good enuff to be  considered
as working.. altho it used realtech chip.. and on windows it did show as
realtek..

>
> On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux
> > problem..?
> > for linux.. u can use ..
> > for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be
> > running downloads...
> > "at" or "cron" to schedule tasks... when u want...
> > look at some documentations... :)
> > windows has it's own gui schedule thingy...
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 6, 9:32am, "Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > thanks all of u
> > > > but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse..
> > > > and i try in suse
> > > > i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file
> > >
> > > next thing i wanted to get help was download
> > > when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in
> > > linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing
> > > nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i
> > > have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come
> > > from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way..
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> उजवल ujwal
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] online learning for class bunkers

[Prasanna Gautam]

Haha, Sorry for the slightly subversive title... I was wondering how many of
us know abt the online tools we can use to learn stuff that might be missed
in class... or you have a rather bad professor who doesn't quite explain all
too nicely... i've been using some links for a while... for all the stuff...
as an assistance to the class lectures and often to learn new things...

MIT open course ware
ocw.mit.edu

essentially all the stuff free to public view from MIT... all the class
notes... videos and all

http://www.lecturefox.com/

collection of such lectures

A collection of lectures
http://freescienceonline.blogspot.com/2006/06/free-computer-science-video-lecture_24.html
This dude has managed to make a real nice collection of lectures and all.


Google code for educators
http://code.google.com/edu/

Nice place with intro to mapreduce for cluster computing... gives some good
concepts on the topic


Also, don't forget that hard copy book... that's the best resource most of
the time

Happy Hacking

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[FOSSNepal] APJ Abdul Kalam in google india's summit

[Prasanna Gautam]

check this out... I'm kind of sure it's not technical.. but must be worth
it...
disclaimer: i haven't seen this one... so u can also consider this spam ! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7VSia9AOe4&sdig=1

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

[Prasanna Gautam]

I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux problem..?
for linux.. u can use ..
for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be running
downloads...
"at" or "cron" to schedule tasks... when u want...
look at some documentations... :)
windows has it's own gui schedule thingy...

On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 9:32am, "Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > thanks all of u
> > but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse..
> > and i try in suse
> > i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file
> next thing i wanted to get help was download
> when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in
> linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing
> nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i
> have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come
> from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way..
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Reiser4 filesystem

[Prasanna Gautam]

here's a nice video that'll help to understand the reiser fs...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6866770590245111825&q=Hans+Reiser

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

[Prasanna Gautam]

haha... nice...

On Dec 6, 2007 11:44 AM, Ujwal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> some months back Kiran dai reported that even by getting internet
> connection in suse 10.2. he was unable to browse internet with
> firefox.
> hence
> !check
>
> from my side firefox works!
> regards
> Ujwal
>
> On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah i Got,
> > > Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection
> > > in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet
> > > connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the
> > > PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select
> > > install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then
> > > you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just
> > > #su
> > > #$password
> > > #pppoe-setup
> > > all the configuration of internet.
> > > finally,
> > > #pppoe-start
> > > and finished.
> > > Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ?
> > >
> > !check= not check? oops!!
> >
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Ujwal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/6/07, Surmandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now
> i
> > > have
> > > > no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages.
> you
> > > can
> > > > get it from there.
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to
> internet.
> > > But
> > > > > dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it
> > > connects:
> > > > as
> > > > > soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and
> just
> > > login
> > > > > and surf the Net.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected.
> So
> > > > > never faced problem  for internet.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > HACKER VS CRACKER
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > > उजवल ujwal
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> उजवल ujwal
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: reply as fast as possible

[Prasanna Gautam]

AFAIK there's no law against encryption algorithms in Nepal... until it's
within international laws... like violating patents and all.. u know

On Dec 6, 2007 10:33 AM, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i had few problem with some question? so please if anyone knows about this
> please reply me as soon as posible..
>
> What encryption algorithms are used in Nepal(legally)? And where can we
> get products like ZOLL, 3DEs, AES in nepal?
>
> They are trying to establish VPN between two locations, so if anyone knows
> plz answer as soon as possible.
>
> Regards
> AKash
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

[Prasanna Gautam]

i think it should be more like a long term effort than a small bouts of
excited hacking for a weekend... that doesn't work at this scale,... it's
more about practice and having a community around is the best way to attain
it... IMO... so I think the first thing is to have (perhaps) someone with
experience... to help... often (in other places) there's someone in
college... professor... who can help... But most of the times they aren't
all too interested in helping...(at least in Nepal) because they don't do
much researches there... So, the only idea i believe is to share
annotations, documentations... I'd like to reiterate the importance of cross
referencing... like lxr
go to lxr.linux.no ( FYI there's another one at lxr.mozilla.org for mozilla
geeks) that'll help in tons for understanding the kernel and how bits
flow... :) only way to understand is by sharing and learning is done by
urself no matter how much u r taught.. i mean the workshop isn't going
to help anyone unless people aren't genuinely interested in doing it...

On Dec 6, 2007 11:41 AM, Ujwal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well,
> it's good to know peoples opinion here about hacking kernel and write
> device drivers. In my reference I started reading ldd3 for some 50
> pages and so on for some months back but now it's /dev/null ,bcuz of
> some java and college works. Sooner i'll be back with some works in
> hand. Getting and making people involved in OSS development is
> extremely cool idea as i think regarding FOSS-NEPAL. It's good to have
> some workshops and workouts on LDD and kernel from fossnepal. Hope to
> find and get kernel workshops and tutors even by web or face to face.
> Regards
> Ujwal
>
> On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've created a link but I'll start writing on it in a few hours, days
> maybe
> >   I'll try to make it more organized and possibly include some pdfs
> here
> > and there  for the time being try downloading the oreilly books
> > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/
> > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/
> > Oh yeah... the "Running Linux" book is also pretty decent in this
> series...
> > Also I found the Operating Systems Principles books (Peter Galvin)...
> > pretty good for understanding.. esp for people more familiar with
> java
> > multithreading is a tough nut to get ur head around hehe.. oh yeah
> and
> > you will understand windows systems better once u get familiar with
> > unices
> >  http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Development_Resources
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 12:43 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Its nice to have such workshop. lets discuss on organazing it. Guys
> here
> > > lets do it. Prasanna, Bikal and many others are therewith us. may be
> > > Nepalinux developers,Ujjwal and Manish could input on kickstart.  Hope
> to
> > > hear from them soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Prasanna, Why not we use foss nepal wiki for this purpose. lets add up
> > > there itself so one doesn't have to search various sites to get
> > > resouces/materials. I suggest to make a link on wiki.fossnepal.org and
> > > start wiking with it.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> उजवल ujwal
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah i Got,
> Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection
> in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet
> connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the
> PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select
> install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then
> you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just
> #su
> #$password
> #pppoe-setup
> all the configuration of internet.
> finally,
> #pppoe-start
> and finished.
> Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ?
>
!check= not check? oops!!

>
> regards
> Ujwal
>
>
>
> On 12/6/07, Surmandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now i
> have
> > no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages. you
> can
> > get it from there.
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to internet.
> But
> > > dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it
> connects:
> > as
> > > soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and just
> login
> > > and surf the Net.
> > >
> > > The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected. So
> > > never faced problem  for internet.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > HACKER VS CRACKER
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> उजवल ujwal
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: LTSP Training of Trainers: Call for Applications

[Prasanna Gautam]

Just noting How about some session on network resource management and
scripting?

On Dec 6, 2007 6:31 AM, Subir Pradhanang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Dear Friends,
>
> This is a call for applications for LTSP Training of Trainers. FOSS
> Nepal Community (www.fossnepal.org) and Help Nepal Network
> (www.helpnepal.net) are jointly conducting a training for prospective
> trainers for Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP - www.ltsp.org) based
> e-Library. This is part of a series of trainings to be conducted in
> the future. To alleviate the inclining trend of 'Digital Divide' in
> Nepal, e-Library as an Information and Communication Technology (ICT)
> tool that aims to incorporate both 'Health' and 'Education' sector is
> opted with its viability in terms of technical and economical
> perspective in reference to Nepal and the Nepalese. With the rising
> interest in LTSP by different groups involved in rural education, it
> has presently been a topic of discussion for both national and
> international donor agencies as well as the community beneficiaries.
> Due to its growing potential and magnitude, we are in search of
> technical manpower who would help us deploy LTSP based e-library as
> volunteers in different parts of Nepal. Hence, this training is an
> effort to create this manpower from among the students who can devote
> their time for the training and the project deployments.
>
> The involvement of students in this training will provide them with
> enough expertise to be part of e-Library projects as technical
> volunteer. This will not only help the Help Nepal Network and FOSS
> Nepal Community achieve their goal, but, also the students as they
> will get a practical exposure about community work along with a chance
> to visit different parts of Nepal. They will also be learning a new
> system based on Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), and will further
> understand its potential in development of nation's ICT
> infrastructure.
>
> To sum it up, the focus of the training is to provide training to
> prospective trainers which could create a pool of volunteers for
> deployment of LTSP e-Library all over Nepal.
>
> Please see:
> http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=LTSP_Training_of_Trainers
> for more details.
>
> * Please disseminate it to your interested peer circle.
>
> Date, Time and Venue:
> Two-day training covering all the essentials of the LTSP system
> installation and administration on December 15-16, 2007, at the end of
> which each participant will be awarded a certificate for the
> completion of their training.
>
> The selected candidates will be notified about the time and venue by
> phone and/or email.
>
> No. of Participants:
> 20–25 participants on the basis of application form
>
> Areas that will be covered:
> - Linux and Networking Basics
> - LTSP specific administration
> - System administration
>
> Fees:
> Registration fee: Rs. 50 (for CD's and other materials to be provided)
>
> Lunch and tea will be provided to the participants.
>
> Please find the application form along with this email and send the
> completed application form in plain text format (.txt) to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for sending your completed
> application form is December 11, 2007 (Tuesday). Please refer below
> for the format of the application form. We will confirm receipt of the
> application immediately.
>
> 
>
> APPLICATION FORM
>
> Please provide answers to all the following questions:
>
> 1. Basic personal information:
> (a) Name:
> (b) Gender:
> (c) Date of Birth:
> (d) School/College Name:
> (e) Computer skills:
> (f) Contact Address:
> (g) E-mail address:
> (h) Telephone:
> (i) Mobile:
> (j) Are you familiar with Linux Operating System? Yes/No
>
> 2. Have you heard about LTSP before or not?
>
> 3. Why do you want to participate in LTSP Training of Trainers?
>
> 4. Do you think that the technical knowledge that you gain could be
> leveraged for carrying out community projects?
>
> 5. If later we call upon you for participating in an LTSP deployment,
> how do you think you could provide your participation?
>
> Note:
> 1. Please make sure that all the questions are answered in order to be
> considered for selection
> 2. The right of selection of the participants is reserved to LTSP
> Training of Trainers committee
> 3. Only shortlisted candidates will be informed by phone and/or email
> by Thursday December 13, 2007
> 4. Certificates of the training will only be provided to those
> candidates who will be present throughout the training
>
> Last Day for Applications: December 11, 2007
> 
>
> For further information, please contact:
>
> - Roshendra Khadka (98510-42842)
> - Shishir Jha (98510-87591)
> - Email queries at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Regards,
> Subir B. Pradhanang
> FOSS Nepal Community
> www.fossnepal.org
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Sun Announces Open Source Community Innovation Awards Program

[Prasanna Gautam]

Aite, Millions everywhere... google... SUN maybe Microsoft will come up
with something like this next:) {TROLL}

On Dec 6, 2007 2:56 AM, Hempal Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> This announcement came to my notice, hope you will find it informative!
>
> Sun is announcing a $1 Million Open Source Community Innovation Awards
> Program which will foster innovation and recognize the most interesting
> initiatives within open source communities worldwide.
>
> Beginning in mid-January 2008, Sun and the six open source communities
> will announce details on how developers can participate in the
> individual programs.
>
> To follow contest updates and major developments, visit:
> http://www.sun.com/opensource/awards
>
> Source: http://www.webknowhow.net/news/press/071205Sun.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Hempal Shrestha
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

[Prasanna Gautam]

I've created a link but I'll start writing on it in a few hours, days maybe
  I'll try to make it more organized and possibly include some pdfs here
and there  for the time being try downloading the oreilly books
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/
Oh yeah... the "Running Linux" book is also pretty decent in this series...
Also I found the Operating Systems Principles books (Peter Galvin)...
pretty good for understanding.. esp for people more familiar with java
multithreading is a tough nut to get ur head around hehe.. oh yeah and
you will understand windows systems better once u get familiar with
unices
 http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Development_Resources

On Dec 6, 2007 12:43 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its nice to have such workshop. lets discuss on organazing it. Guys here
> lets do it. Prasanna, Bikal and many others are therewith us. may be
> Nepalinux developers,Ujjwal and Manish could input on kickstart.  Hope to
> hear from them soon.
>
>
> Prasanna, Why not we use foss nepal wiki for this purpose. lets add up
> there itself so one doesn't have to search various sites to get
> resouces/materials. I suggest to make a link on wiki.fossnepal.org and
> start wiking with it.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> Registered Linux User #443940
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

[Prasanna Gautam]

I know a person in Nepal who has taken Kernel driver development
training.(I'm not exactly sure, I'll inform after I have a talk with him)..
maybe a hands on training for a few weeks/days will suffice along with some
pdfs (or maybe even hard copy books (gosh!)). Once you get the idea of the
workings, it probably isn't too hard... also the oreilly book is awesome in
this respect... except if u are too lazy like me to implement them. Maybe
even an extended hackfest among OS geeks can be good after substantial
amount of research.. maybe aimed at controlling a simple piece of
equipment... like a led configuration connected to LPT (or USB.. I still
can't get my head around the USB things). Of course.. this kind of course
will require some good understanding of electronics and OS.. but still
doable.

Anyone ready to make a wiki page? I can put all the resources I think
necessary... or we can discuss here.. like which books to refer and what
kind of project will be better and then culminate that into the final
hackfest of sorts...

On Dec 5, 2007 6:20 PM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 03:20:05PM -0500, Prasanna Gautam wrote:
> > how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver
> > development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe
> make
> > some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux
> sucks...
>
> Yes Prasanna is right I think. Developer's workshop dinu lai Nepalinux
> core developers would need to give -some- sort of training or DYI methods so
> that people wishing to improve Nepalinux (and hence add drivers to it) would
> be able to do so  and also be able to give that back to international oss
> community.
>
> Moreover, for this to happen foss nepal needs programmer who can code in
> kernel (at the least device driver programmer) or at the least an
> experienced C hacker. Having said that, there are free resources on the web
> one can read (ldd 2nd edition found easily on the web if one wants to build
> drivers). The only requisite I believe is good knowledge about C
> programming.
>
> Not so long ago, I was directed to kernelnewbies.org mailing list by one
> of the Guru in Nepali kernel hacking scene - Mr. Manish Regmi so I think his
> expertise would be really welcomed in initiating such workshop.
>
> I think Ujwal has already started coding driver for his web camera. He can
> provide helpful hints to newcomers to that arena as well.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bikal.
> GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
> "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Fwd: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin

[Prasanna Gautam]

Great work, but I have a few suggestions:
It is supposed to be an e-bulletin but it still retains the paperlike look
which is largely inefficient use of "e" portion of it... Also, it could've
been a bit better if it was available on the site and perhaps as rss format
so that we can put in some aggregator of sorts... pdfs can be generated
directly from those nodes(I think u can just pass the design as
stylesheet)... which might make the editing and other processes easier..
perhaps... Nonetheless, great work, good articles..

On Dec 5, 2007 12:22 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its really a good one. keep it up KUOSC team.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Abhishek Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:17 PM
> Subject: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Dear All,
>   It's really very pleasing to announce that KUOSC E-Bulletin,
> December issue has just been published and released. You can obtain the soft
> copy in PDF format from 
> here
> .
>
>I would like to congratulate and thank Ms. Namita
> Agrawal who coordinated and released this issue. KUOSC always counts upon
> you guys. Let's make IT FOSSible!
> --
> ___
>
> Abhishek Singh
>
> Fedora 8 has released!!
> http://fedoraproject.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> Registered Linux User #443940
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

[Prasanna Gautam]

how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver
development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe make
some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux sucks...

On Dec 5, 2007 7:21 AM, bibstha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> +1 tp amda-bara, would be real nice!!
>
> On Dec 5, 9:07 am, "Amit Aryal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > la la basabta dai!!! all the best. farkepachi anda-baara khanu parchha ,
> as
> > a treat.
> >
> > cheers
> > amit
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2007 10:00 PM, Abhishek Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > All the best Basanta Dai!
> >
> > >  On Dec 4, 2007 1:33 PM, daya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Basanta sir,
> > > > good luck and all the best !
> > > > :),
> >
> > > > On Dec 4, 2007 11:51 AM, Rajesh Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > All the best Basanta Dai..
> >
> > > > > On 12/3/07, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:14:12PM +0545, Jwalanta Shrestha
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > ..
> >
> > > > > > > > Dear all,
> >
> > > > > > > > The Center for International Cooperation for Computerization
> > > > (CICC) is
> > > > > > > > conducting the third Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop with
> > > > School of
> >
> > > > > > ..
> >
> > > > > > Goodluck Basanta! ;) Are you going to blog or something
> regarding
> > > > your
> > > > > experience? I hope you will. hehe.. :-)
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Bikal.
> > > > > > GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5
> > > > > > "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rajesh Pandey
> >
> > > > --
> > > > daya,
> >
> > > > lets share the knowledge,
> > > > "A candle doesn't lose anything by lighting another"
> >
> > > > Fedora 8 has released!!
> > > >http://fedoraproject.org
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

[Prasanna Gautam]

i had been using tk-pppoe from roaring penguin
http://roaringpenguin.luky.org/pppoe/tkpppoe/ wlink has the linux version
from their downloads page. You just need to compile and run... i think under
ideal conditions, u can just run ./go or ./go-gui without all the
compiling..

On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> how am i going to connect internet form linux
> i am using opensuse 10.2 and linux mint 3
> and wlink's cable
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 3, 2007 3:49 PM, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Start hacking
> > >
> > > http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html
> > >
> > > its for newies
> > >
> >
> >
> > before u read that, read this
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html>
> >
> oh nice call, that's a darn classic
> i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times
>  http://catb.org/jargon/html/
> and reading these
> http://paulgraham.com/articles.html
>
> oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are
> doing.
>
> Its always good to have good programming books
> Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious
> security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those...
> that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other
> hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than
> focus on the superficial stuff  no matter how interesting they are... at the
> end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system...
>
> btw... IMO "great hackers" and "beating the averages" are must reads by
paul graham

>
>
> > regards,
> > jwalanta
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: If we can't trust Open Source....

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Bipin Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> X-No-Archive:
>
> >
> > I am sorry to anyone who have lost their data in the past. We all have.
> And I think we LEARN something from it. Don't we? I think it's time we call
> our data rescue man - Mr. Bipin! :-) Why don't anyone who have problem with
> rescueing data call Bipin? Or even Bipin should start up data rescue company
> that services OSS user's data for free! :-)
> >
>
> we already have it for some years now,
>
> http://nepcert.org.np/(but not much attension )
>
> Anouncement: "free" data rescue for "people" making "visible
> comtributing" in FOSS here in Nepal.
>
how about expanding it... maybe exchanging expertise with fossnepal users...
? (Sorry haven't really followed everything.. sorry if this is little out of
place)
one thing we can all do is work on the established forums themselves and
perhaps help other people too... Maybe I had a problem and I somehow solved
it... it's always nice to take a little time to say how u did it... and
place it somewhere searcheable... maybe the ubuntuforums or even here so
that someone else can find it.

>
> thanks,
> -bipin
>
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

[Prasanna Gautam]

On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Start hacking
> >
> > http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html
> >
> > its for newies
> >
>
>
> before u read that, read this
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
>
oh nice call, that's a darn classic
i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times
 http://catb.org/jargon/html/
and reading these
http://paulgraham.com/articles.html

oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are doing.

Its always good to have good programming books
Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious
security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those...
that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other
hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than
focus on the superficial stuff  no matter how interesting they are... at the
end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system...



> regards,
> jwalanta
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

[Prasanna Gautam]

anyone remembers those online hacking challenges ? any links.. i remember
one python challenge that got us mad sometime back though.

On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Start hacking
>
> http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html
>
> its for newies
>
> Regards,
> Akash
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: open source ocr

[Prasanna Gautam]

there's one from google... based on the tesseract engine(not sure abt the
spelling though) ocropus... try searching in code.google.com... it's a nice
engine...

On Oct 24, 2007 10:21 PM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:15:50PM -0400, Ashes wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Is there any open source ocr program for linux and windows.
> Hi Ashes,
> Try this and see how it goes - http://dwarfurl.com/ded3e
>
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Ubuntu Remastering

[Prasanna Gautam]

I think I had mentioned both of them but kind of used reconstructor..
without compiling completely There are stuff for fedora and gentoo too
now

On Nov 1, 2007 12:02 PM, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 09:50:13PM +0545, Bipin Gautam wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On 10/31/07, Shishir Jha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Could anyone point me to a site which explains how to remaster
> the
> > > ubuntu CD for making customized image of Ubuntu. I kind of vaguely
> remember
> > > the program that Prasanna demonstrated in FKK about Preparing your own
> > > distro, but I have not been able to find the exact program. So if
> anyone
> > > remembers which package that was please reply it could be of good
> help.
> > > > > > >
> >
> > i am yet to see a good Ubuntu customization software. most of them are
>
> Write one yourself if you can.
>
> --
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Werewolf releasing tomorrow.........

[Prasanna Gautam]

try using kernel.org mirror for it. It seems to be lot faster. Last time,
for fedora 7 I had used mirror.facebook.com
I'll give a review after I try it on my vmware. Maybe I'll put on hdd this
weekend.
Peace,
Prasanna

On Nov 8, 2007 10:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> yeah thats such a great thing
>
> Fedora does have nepali support and its really really cool the outbook
> is great, i saw some screenshot they are simply great :)
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 11:24 AM, Subir Pradhanang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2007 12:08 AM, Abhishek Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The release is a great awaited event. Fedora 8 has got a lot of good
> tools
> > > and features (See the Release Summary). I'm waiting to download it as
> soon
> > > as possible.
> >
> > And there's, of course, going to be Nepali language support!
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/FeatureList
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Subir
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: NepaLinux as a co-winner of the international APC Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007

[Prasanna Gautam]

Bump! This is really great to find the efforts of Nepalinux community being
appreciated... Hats Off!

On 10/18/07, Jitendra kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Finally, good work being appreciated.
> Congrats NepaLinux team and FOSS community.
>
> On 10/18/07, Bikram Shrestha < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations to NEPALINUX team and entire FOSS Nepal community.. this
> > is really the big acheivement.. I wish entire team for greater success in
> > the future.. keep up the great work..
> >
> > Cheers !! and Happy Dashain !!
> >
> >
> > -bikram
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/07, nepbabu <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:20:28PM +0545, Subir Pradhanang wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > > > It is with great pleasure that I am sharing you the
> > > announcement of
> > > > > NepaLinux as having been selected as a co-winner of the
> > > international APC
> > > > > Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007. I would like to take this opportunity
> > > to thank
> > > > > our well wishers, supporters and the team that has been working
> > > really hard
> > > > > all this time. I look forward to similar enthusiasm, energy and
> > > support from
> > > > > all of you in future as well.
> > > > > > > > For details about the prize, please kindly visit the link
> > > > > http://www.apc.org/english/chrisnicol/
> > > >
> > > > Great News! Congratulations!!!
> > >
> > > This is a very cool news for all Nepalinux  team and more so for
> > > open-source. :-)
> > >
> > > I think the hard work the team has done so far is starting to show up
> > > and the APC Chris Nicol is just one instance.
> > >
> > > On this cool auspicious moment, I want to congratulate everyone in the
> > > team including people who have downloaded and used Nepalinux 1/2 and used
> > > it. :-)
> > >
> > > Subir dai, when/where's the celebration party? ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Bikal.
> > > GPG: 0D8EAFB6
> > > "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS NEPAL >>SFD 08 theme

[Prasanna Gautam]

That sounds good. We should probably focus on the more grassroot level too.
Big enterprises have big money invested on big softwares already. They will
need a larger support base for any kind of move. I think it should be more
about the general people/entrepreneurs and IMO for the wannabe hackers who
want to play with the system.

On 10/7/07, Ashes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Linux for Everyone - Enterprise or People
>
> On 10/7/07, Ashay Thakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Enterpreneurship -- MAybe
> >
> > On 10/7/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > With one year of time, Lets start Planning for SFD 2008.
> > >
> > > I think the theme of Next SFD should be "Linux For Enterprise". May be
> > > some other suited word instead of enterprise.
> > >
> > > If we are able to provide FOSS solution to our local enterprises, it
> > > will be a grand achievement for FOSS Revolution in Nepal.
> > >
> > > What the community says
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> AD
> >
>

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Reload this Page Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista

[Prasanna Gautam]

exactly.. the point of using linux is to be different... what's the worth of
cloning a system that's inferior? OSX's interface rocks but I'd rather do it
with the real OSX.. heck even in a virtual machine would be extremely cool.

Though this does give you some bragging rights.

On 9/16/07, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  but why would anybody wanna do that??
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:15 +0545, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote:
>
> [image: Reload this Page]
> *Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista*
>
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=69176508d48a05c0eba30d07e395ff93&t=490398
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/
>
>
> Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> Registered Linux User #443940
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
>
>
>
>
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Gr8 SFD

[Prasanna Gautam]

WOW!!!
  FOSSNepal sure has come a long way, great going. it's just awesome to see
that Kantipur TV saw this topic as newsworthy and even put it in poll. It's
just great. It probably sounds like stressing too much, but I would really
like to know more, esp from documentation; more so because sadly, that's the
only way I can know.
on other side, I'm really sorry for my long absence from this forum. I hope
I will be more active now. (on a lighter side, I still have all time highest
post numbers).
Great to know that freedom toaster was the attraction there.

Keep it up,
FOSSNepal rules

and the T-shirt rocks...


On 9/15/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i gave to b. coz publicity matters to make FOSS popular and ensure its
> long presence.
>
> On 9/15/07, suraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > VOTE FOR "a"
> >
> > On 9/15/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > Happy SFD 07 to u all.
> > > We had the best Event at Yala Maya Kendra. Missed our members- mainly:
> > > Ekta, Sagun dai, Ishwor dai, Prasanna.
> > >
> > > The documentation team has one gr8 challenge ahead. It depends on
> > > their hardwork with the help from whole community to mark our celebration
> > > the Best among the all SFD celebrations on the world.  Gear up for the
> > > collection of information from among event management team and volunteers.
> > >
> > > Rest ... aaja Kantipur TV ma news ma SFD coverage herda sarai ramro
> > > lagyo. could not wait after the poll. so I sent message to kantipur. 
> > > though
> > > all were equally important. i sent to just  one. Sabai ma deyo bhaney % ma
> > > artha nai hudaina.
> > >
> > > So So So plz vote...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > सुरज सापकोटा
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |-~~~---~~~^~---~|
> > | programmed2program |
> > |-~~~---~~~^~---~|
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> Registered Linux User #443940
> letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
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[FOSSNepal] Re: distros for sfd 2007

[Prasanna Gautam]

how about moving a little out of the box by including some BSD flavours or
other *nix flavors too? like PCBSD, Solaris ?

On 8/30/07, dips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> to align with the theme of "Linux for Desktop", i think beside
> introducing general public of the different distros and the
> applications, we need to teach them "How to install". I had gone
> through one of the pages in FOSS wiki where there was mentioned
> students having problem in installation and people from the team had
> to reach there.
>
> I and most of us i think have heard from the Linux beginners that they
> find difficulties in installing Linux in their PCs. They aren't sure
> how to format their disks, which partition is to be created, what are
> the requirements for installing, how can they dual boot their very own
> XP and this new Linux. They are very apprehensive and don't often
> install due to fear of loosing their data and XP environment.
>
> My point is that if we could show them some video tutorials (are they
> available in net?) or the like they will be really motivated to
> installing Linux else they'll think they'll be better off running some
> Live CDs only. If video tutorials aren't possible at least we could
> give them manuals of Dos and Don'ts during installation covering as
> many cases that can arise during installation.
>
> May be with these they'll feel more comfortable and go home with
> confidence that they can install on their own. Else i think how ever
> we show them, unless they on their own are confident in installing,
> our theme can't be achieved.
>
> it's just my opinion, how do u guys feel? please comment.
>
> -dips
>
>
> >
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

[Prasanna Gautam]

Wh... let's ask some underground band here... it will be freakin
cool...  foss song in speed metal is just so cool


On 8/7/07, Paras pradhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Prasanna,
>
> Why not !.
>
>
> Speed metal rocks !! :)
>
>
> Paras.
>
> On 8/7/07, Prasanna Gautam < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices...
> >
> > On 8/7/07, sonicker < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > to make a theme song is a must.
> > > many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
> > > should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
> > > and melodies...it should be catchy!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> >
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 8/7/07, Bipin Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> X-No-Archive:
>
>
>
> On 8/7/07, sonicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > to make a theme song is a must.
> >many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
> > should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
> > and melodies...it should be catchy!!
> >
>
> just one request, dont screw wid the lyrics. focus on that as it would
> talk abt FOSS.
> 5 minutes of music playback and just 2 minute if lyrics aint
> happening. get the idea


yeah i agree.. it shud be abt the theme... the words convey it best.. so
don't make it crappy just becoz it rhymes better...
i think too much music suits zepplin or floyd not foss.. or any movement
like this


>
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: "SFD 07"

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 8/7/07, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> we need to remove paper presentation from adgenda..


thinking again.. i think we need paper presentation (muhahaha I won't be
there to listen to the boring ones.. ok got overboard)  I think if presented
interestingly.. it can be really fruitful..  better not be the boring ones..
more like the david wiley ones..

this time i'm wishin the program to be short n sweet. events like paper
> presentation and foss quiz jus require too much preparation and time. i
> guess we are tryin to make the SFD lil' funky this time, (maybe that's
> why socials is there too..)
>
> but before the SFD stuffs i think we should go on with the FOSS Nepal
> registration process coz this is important for getting funds n all..
>
> regards,
> jwalanta
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 11:14 +0545, Sagun wrote:
> > I think paper presentation should not be removed from the SFD event.
> > At least 4-5 papers should be there, so that some academic learning
> > opportunity will be there for students and new members of the
> > community.
> >
> > Regarding the formation of the core team. I think we can go by
> > nomination.
> >
> > I would like to volunteer for paper presentation, proposals,
> > advertisements and orientation tasks to new colleges. I think its high
> > time that we start forming the team right away. So should we start a
> > wiki page where the final task force will be listed. and leaders for
> > each task is nominated so that each team can start working  and
> > preparing for the event.
> >
> > On 8/6/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Agreed with Prasanna. But meeting on 26th july have discussed
> > on removing paper presentation section, (as i have heard/I was
> > absent).
> >
> > The main theme this year should be i guess "FOSS for Nepal;
> > grass-root to Enterprise." SFD, as i always say, should not be
> > for techies but for end-users(Implementation). Its a day to
> > mark awareness of FOSS to general Public Worldwide.
> >
> > For Paper Presentations and techies stuffs lets mark a new
> > day, say, FOSS-Nepal Day...hehe ;)
> >
> > Regarding T-shirt, The obstacle is... our SFD theme which must
> > be finalized soon.  I guess this thursday we must call a
> > meeting. As on friday, I guess there is some program at
> > IOE???
> >
> > FT squad plz finalize a team. I am also in. I think Shankar
> > should lead the squad.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Prabin Gautam "ओपन ठिटो"
> > Registered Linux User #443940
> > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Warm Regards,
> > Sagun Dhakhwa
> >
> > Address at Work:
> > Sambad Project,
> > Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya
> > Patan Dhoka, Lalitpur, Nepal
> >
> >
> > homepage: www.outlines-rnd.com/sagun
> > =
> > ==INITIATING OPEN COURSE WARE ( www.sixyadaan.org ) in NEPAL==
> > =
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> >
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

[Prasanna Gautam]

how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices...

On 8/7/07, sonicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> to make a theme song is a must.
> many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
> should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
> and melodies...it should be catchy!!
>
>
> >
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 8/6/07, acpmasquerade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And again its not good to use songs like माकुरी जालैमा or ऐना हेरेर,
> The songs should be some sorts of modern pop or rock songs and should
> be targeted to some users who are in responsible posts and are
> responsible for everything in this world to be against open source or
> say away from open source.


yeah man.. i support that..  it needs to really reflect the FOSS movement..
rock is best. and no hip-hop...

But why am not I having the repliess
>
> This gotta be a serious topic...
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: "SFD 07"

[Prasanna Gautam]

I think it should focus on desktop use as it's on the rise. We really really
really need to have something that developers can benefit from. Like perhaps
intro to tools like Mono(for C# fans who want to switch for development),
eclipse or maybe the performance gains in various tools.. even a good
discussion on "java on linux" can be good.

How about having some kind of competition or just a more "for-fun" type
developer activity  if we have paper presentations or sth, I think we
need to have some prize for people who make it more interesting and fun. We
don't really need "big names" just interesting things to discuss can do.

I think we need to have some kinda suggestions session as to what OSS needs
to get a stronger foothold on the desktop market.. ( i prefer to have it
more on development side, but even socioeconomic issues come ) or as in
Nepal's case, into the enterprise space. Maybe places like CAN can support
some of these discussions, especially with enterprises. We do need some kind
of enterprise support in Nepal so that FOSS rises.

On 8/6/07, Akash Deep Shakya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> oh tshirt deign great, i hae fun few of them, so whts the theme or we can
> make anything related to SFD or FOSS nepal??? anything haev been fixed??
>
> hey btw i will love to be in documentation team even though OER
> documentation was not that gud
>
> On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion.
> >
> > 1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification
> > will be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline
> > will be 2 weeks from commence date.
> >
> >  Specification???
> >
> > 2. Teams for SFD decied so far are:
> >
> > i. Documentation team
> >
> > ii. Documentary team
> >
> > iii. Freedom Toaster Squad
> >
> > iv. FOSPIT team
> >
> > v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and
> > Sponsorship...)
> >
> > vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...)
> >
> > vii. Socials management Team
> >
> >  Roles has to be defined.!!
> >
> > 3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for
> > sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad.
> >
> > FT SQUAD need to pace up..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Interactive Linux Kernel Map

[Prasanna Gautam]

A really nice way to view the underlying kernel architecture along with
links..
http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/kernel_map

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: "SFD 07"

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion.
>
> 1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification will
> be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline will be
> 2 weeks from commence date.
>

I had contacted  station (kupondole) and they were ready for 360 a piece..
can anyone help getting it cheaper?

Specification???
>
> 2. Teams for SFD decied so far are:
>
> i. Documentation team
>
> ii. Documentary team
>
> iii. Freedom Toaster Squad
>
> iv. FOSPIT team
>
> v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and Sponsorship...)
>
> vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...)
>
> vii. Socials management Team
>
>  Roles has to be defined.!!
>
> 3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for
> sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad.
>
FT SQUAD need to pace up..

I want to be in FT squad, maybe I'll join up sometime later to finish up the
interface works..

>
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[FOSS Nepal] 100 or so books that shaped the century

[Prasanna Gautam]

This might be so much about foss but yeah there are some foss books, but
definitely worth the effort taking a look at.
http://www.amsci.org/amsci/bookshelf/centurylist.html

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Check this out.. surprising it still exists

[Prasanna Gautam]

They are losing more people with this! binding your website to a
specific browser is plain stupid.

On 8/3/07, Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Go to http://www.careermideast.com using Firefox.
> Surprising that this kind of attitude is still happening :)
>
> --
> Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial
> http://linux2.arinet.org
> 09:22:23 up 2:07, 2.6.20-16-generic GNU/Linux
> Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org
>
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[FOSS Nepal] understanding RAID

[Prasanna Gautam]

I hope this will help understand RAIDs better... in a fun way!
http://www.epidauros.be/raid.jpg

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Fwd: The magic of firefox

[Prasanna Gautam]

hehe... enter command in firebug!!

On 8/1/07, Jwalanta Shrestha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> wow cool.. actually it should be magic of javascript.
>
> (but how do u stop it?? :))
>
>
> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 08:17 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > 1. Go to Google
> > 2. Click images
> > 3. Type "flowers" or any other word.
> > 4. You will get a page which is having full of images
> > 5. Then delete the URL from the address bar and paste the below script
> >
> > javascript:R= 0; x1=.1; y1=.05; x2=.25; y2=.24; x3=1.6; y3=.24; x4=300;
> > y4=200; x5=300; y5=200; DI= document.images; DIL=DI.length; function A()
> > {for(i=0; i > DIS.left=Math. sin(R*x1+ i*x2+x3)* x4+x5; DIS.top=Math. cos(R*y1+
> i*y2+y3)*
> > y4+y5}R++ }setInterval( 'A()',5); void(0)
> >
> > 6. See the magic.
> >
>
>
> >
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[FOSS Nepal] IBM saves $250M by running linux on mainframes

[Prasanna Gautam]

*"Today IBM will announce it is consolidating nearly 4,000 small computer
servers  in six locations
onto about 30 refrigerator-sized mainframes running Linux, saving $250
million in the process. The 4,000 replaced servers will be recycled by IBM
Global Asset Recovery Services. The six data centers currently take up over
8 million square feet, or the size of nearly 140 football fields."*

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Comment on "Should Nepal adopt FOSS?"

[Prasanna Gautam]

I wonder why they got the uncensored domain

On 7/30/07, nepbabu.cx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Jwalanta Shrestha wrote:
> > but seems like the everestUNCENSORED has CENSORED the message, nepbabu's
> > message doesn't appear there.. have a look..
> > http://www.everestuncensored.org/archives/opinion/000529.html
> >
> > if they have really deleted this message, this is gross!!!
>
> It seems the admin shamefully modded the post.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 7/30/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> It is true that Google has not done evil until now, but just imagine
> the data it crawls around the web and countless search keywords it
> stores in its database. By crunching those data Google can predict
> what we like and what we dislike making exact prediction about our
> future. Recently, US Justice Dept. has halted the acquisitions made by
> Google of an online ad firm DoubleClick citing its dominance in the
> internet and the case is still pending. And guess what who are the
> suitors? That's right!!! Yahoo! and Microsoft.

I think more or less every company that does search has enough data to do
similar things  at least google hasn't bowed down to government pressure
to open up user information... Further any such practices do come out soon
enough and there will be repercussions for any company... like the
anti-trust case with microsoft... DOJ couldn't even break the company as
they intended to do. Further MS has gained monopoly by clever use of
business tactics, monopolistic practices. Google seems to have done most of
it with genuine footing on good technology. Google acquired doubleclick to
stop MS from acquiring it... this does have an evil side to it because it
gives the people from doubleclick access to the google board. And those guys
are pretty darn evil.
these lawsuits keep happening... one day google tries to pull MS into court
for antitrust case.. other day MS and yahoo do it for advertising.. it's
just democracy and free market... that's how new technologies come... and
die... and lawyers get paid..

On Jul 29, 9:44 pm, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No.
> > It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It
> uses
> > marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then
> leverages
> > that dependency to get their own standards and  stifles the market. I
> don't
> > think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in
> the
> > public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking
> google
> > down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well
> > known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the
> variables
> > that google uses  are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs
> would've
> > been out of job)
> >  EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the
> > internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can
> point
> > their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that
> options
> > and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company
> > immense power that can be abused.
> >
> > On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms
> > > of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate
> > > arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open
> > > sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm).
> > > So , can we call google "evil"??? last month, EU also had made
> > > concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search...
> >
> > > On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form
> of
> > > > > their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
> > > > > Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world.
> Google is
> > > > > going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google
> becoming
> > > > > next "Evil".
> >
> > > > Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
> > > > hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for
> > > that...
> > > > but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they
> have
> > > much
> > > > hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says
> to me
> > > to
> > > > motivate me that M$ is cool is " u can earn a lot of money "
> > > > I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at
> home on
> > > my
> > > > machine) not because I want to b

[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 7/29/07, Zico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/29/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Anon E. Muss writes "Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool
> > that sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a
> > 'peer-assisted technology' where
>
>
> Hahahahahaha 8D... lolz...lolz...
>
> "Microsoft invented such thing which is called "peer-assisted
> technology"




what a disgrace to the word invention... what sucks is they don't admit
where they learnt the technology/the idea... it's as if they get those
things out of the blue and all us mere Linux using mortals just have to
learn from others

hahaha
>
Zico
> --
> "wake in your bed and believe,
> whatever you want to believe..."
>
> http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

[Prasanna Gautam]

Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No.
It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It uses
marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then leverages
that dependency to get their own standards and  stifles the market. I don't
think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in the
public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking google
down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well
known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the variables
that google uses  are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs would've
been out of job)
 EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the
internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can point
their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that options
and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company
immense power that can be abused.

On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms
> of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate
> arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open
> sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm).
> So , can we call google "evil"??? last month, EU also had made
> concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search...
>
> On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
> > > their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
> > > Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
> > > going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
> > > next "Evil".
> >
> > Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
> > hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for
> that...
> > but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have
> much
> > hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me
> to
> > motivate me that M$ is cool is " u can earn a lot of money "
> > I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on
> my
> > machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it...
> M$
> > used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push
> standards...
> > now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is
> a
> > virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even
> own
> > SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system
> >
> > Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
> > background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
> > everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
> > analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a
> lot
> > more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy
> IBM
> > hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they
> survived
> > by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
> > practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac...
> that's
> > cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$
> in a
> > few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies
> or
> > join you-know-who google..
> >
> > M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux..
> because of
> > the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the
> linux
> > hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful
> companies,
> > SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market
> > from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.
> >
> > PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
> > everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
> > it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
> > that'd be notepad... :P)  or use a greasemonkey script...
> >
> > On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents
> where he
> > > > discusses  the waning power of microsoft...
> >
> > > >http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Torvalds explains the scheduler decision

[Prasanna Gautam]

After the recent and really public departure of Con Kolivas, it seems Linus
is finally coming out with an explanation... feels bad when kernel hackers
go away... good projects die...
*
"There's been a lot of recent
debateover
why Linus Torvalds chose the new CFS process scheduler written by Ingo
Molnar over the SD process scheduler written by Con Kolivas, ranging from
discussing the quality of the code to favoritism and outright conspiracy
theories. KernelTrap is now reporting Linus Torvalds' official stance as to
why he chose  the code that he did.
'People who think SD was "perfect" were simply ignoring reality,' Linus is
quoted as saying. He goes on to explain that he selected the Completely Fair
Scheduler because it had a maintainer who has proven himself willing and
able to address problems as they are discovered. In the end, the relevance
to normal Linux users is twofold: one is the question as to whether or not
the Linux development model is working, and the other is the question as to
whether the recently released 2.6.23 kernel will deliver an improved desktop
experience."*

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[FOSS Nepal] Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent

[Prasanna Gautam]

Anon E. Muss writes "Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool that
sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a
'peer-assisted technology' where '[e]ach client downloads content by
exchanging parts of the file they're interested in with other clients, in
addition to downloading parts from the server.' Right now MSCD is just a
time-limited preview, intended to support downloads of select Microsoft beta
releases (e.g. Visual Studio 2008). If this test goes well, Microsoft will
probably start using MSCD for all their large downloads. How do you feel
about subsidizing Microsoft's bandwidth costs?"

Read more of this
storyat
Slashdot.

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Didn't know of it! Online Photo editing!

[Prasanna Gautam]

btw,, adobe is also working on an online photoshop!

On 7/28/07, Shankar Pokharel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Got the link from the article forwarded by Pras.
> A cool app.
>
> http://snipshot.com/
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] some finding at install fest...

[Prasanna Gautam]

ok i got an interesting experience today
ok here's the scenario
there's a cross cable connected between server and switch and all other
computers are connected with a straight cable ... one is connected with a
cross cable..
there's a file on server... which of the clients can access? and why?

mind its a switch... btw... all the guys from install fest don't answer this
yet... please... this will be interesting...

anyone can hit a guess,, but it'd be great if we could get the why thing...

ok the answer is:
the crossed one gets it... possibly because the server and clients both are
crossed..  this is from practical experience during the install-fest at
brihaspati school... seems odd why this happened... is something like this
supposed to happen in a switch(not hub)?

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

[Prasanna Gautam]

I am a paranoid person... maybe that's why I use LInux over microsoft..
thinking in terms of a cracker... I think I'd rather put some kinda
homing/listening program or some flaw in my cracked windows...  so that i
can get more viruses or get more account information for use  at least
in linux i can check from where my packages come from.. do a MD5 check on my
iso to check.. or even sha1 check if needed...
If someone uses pirated microsoft product or anything else (non-MS)
pirated... (i mean those just cracked.. hexed... modded) and still bugs
about security... and blames MS for crappy stuff.. blame urself..  use FOSS
stuff... esp  when it comes to OS.. if you cannot even trust the source..
when it comes to pirated stuff...  don't use it..
OS is supposed to have full access to everything... so u are making urself
naked to some evil cracker...

On 7/28/07, Ankur Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nothing to say about rest of the world, but for Nepal what I think is the
> only ALIVE thing here is piracy, If you use microsoft windows OS variants in
> your computer then think again, is it really microsoft's or pirated copy, ok
> few user may have genuine microsoft, but again look at most of other
> software you have installed (photoshop, norton antivirus, microsoft office
> etc) are they genuine, if you say they are then all I can say is "WoW!
> you have made a great contribution against FOSS, so keep off of this mailing
> list", If you think software shouldn't cost that much or shouldn't be
> proprietary then piracy is not the solution, you should choose the
> alternative, which gives you the freedom of choice (owing to fact that you
> don't virtually have to pay for software if you use FOSS till date).
>
> On 7/28/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
> > > their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
> > > Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
> > > going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
> > > next "Evil".
> >
> >
> > Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
> > hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for that...
> > but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much
> > hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to
> > motivate me that M$ is cool is " u can earn a lot of money "
> > I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on
> > my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$
> > used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push standards...
> > now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a
> > virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own
> > SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system
> >
> > Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
> > background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
> > everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
> > analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot
> > more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM
> > hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived
> > by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
> > practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's
> > cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a
> > few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or
> > join you-know-who google..
> >
> > M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux..
> > because of the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined
> > the linux hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful
> > companies, SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free
> > market from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.
> >
> >
> > PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
> > everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
> > it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
> > that'd be notepad... 

[FOSS Nepal] Get Vocal

[Prasanna Gautam]

Get Vocal! FOSS community... I think anyone and everyone should stand on
this issue for him/herself... not because you work for a company that does
open source... u have some certification.. or u are involved in something..
or whatever reasons  Most people who oppose open source don't do open
source... or they did sometime back and are enjoying the easy life
somewhere  The most dangerous people to OSS are the ones who did some
linux or *nix programming sometime back but still are stuck on the same
mentality..
FOSS isn't just about software, it's not about what the person by your side
thinks... but what you think. It will change your life. Get involved. I
think converting yourself to good things, believing in what you say you
believe and being on track is wayyy harder than people think.  When enough
people think for themselves that FOSS is the way to go.. we will already be
on FOSS track... that's what we should aim for. FOSS is about working
together as a community.. getting things done... way more than converting
people.. but we as community should never keep quiet to attacks to our
beliefs...

I think 100 believers makes a wayy stronger community than 1000 supporters..
or more.. altho 1000 believers should be our aim.

On 7/28/07, Shishir Jha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Probably the article in the everestuncensored was a result of threat that
> the closed source programmers are feeling from their counter part - the open
> source. And I totally agree to nepbabu's answers to their stupid queries
>
> Good one, hope they get the message too
>
> On 7/28/07, Ujwal (RUBBOT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wow Wow Wow..
> > This is the biggest slap.. aah ..
> >
> > Regards
> > Ujwal
> > nepbabu.cx wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > There seems to be a noise going down at the everestcensored blog.
> > > I wanted to share what I wrote :)
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > "What a load of crap!!..from a cheapo!! you want everything to be Open
> >
> > > Source and probably Free.. you FOSS maniac.. Softwares should never be
> > > Open Source as it beats the purpose.. because they will never be
> > > documented in a "
> > >
> > > This statement is coming from whom ? Bill Gates?
> > > This kind of statement are everyday remarks I see on Slashdot, digg
> > etc...
> > > I find this to be a fallacy because it explicitly tries to compare
> > FOSS
> > > to proprietary software and prove (without references and historical
> > > data) that proprietary is the way to go. But let me walk you through
> > > some of the key points about foss software. :-)
> > >
> > > First of all, if a programmer doesn't want to look at the source code,
> >
> > > he/she ISN'T a programmer! Maybe they should altogether change their
> > job
> > > to maybe Chef or something. Rather than being a SOFTWARE DEVELOPER.
> > >
> > > In open source world, code itself speaks as a  documentation. This is
> > > Bazaar style of development. This is what makes FOSS Programmer better
> > > than ANY propreitary programmer (this is a gross generalisation let me
> > > remind you)
> > >
> > > "specialized manner and most of the people who customize don't follow
> > > coding standards."
> > >
> > > Oh, you are now talking about coding standards ? haha.. Coding
> > standards
> > > should be OPEN and PUBLISHED. What coding standards are you talking
> > > about? ISO? NIST? or that university level coding standards called
> > > "XP/Incremental development" or is it "Unified process"?  If a coding
> > > standard is local to a company, you can't expect that same level of
> > > standard amongst international open source developers. It'll by far be
> >
> > > more sophisticated and well developed in the case of Open source
> > > software development. Beat me to it!
> > >
> > > "Firstly, it is not possible to understand design pattern and
> > > architectural style from codes. Codes are implementation of Design. "
> > >
> > > YES, you can understand design patterns et. al from codes. That is
> > what
> > > REVERSE ENGINEERING is. Everyday, open source programmers have proven
> > > this! Open source programmers DO NOT, yes! DO NOT have access to
> > source
> > > codes of proprietary systems (drivers, some binary blobs and
> > > compatibility layers like nvidia's display driver), yet they do
> > REVERSE
> > > ENGINEERING solely based on blackbox, input-output bound executions
> > > using OPEN SOURCE Tools and methodology. If you care to look at the
> > > myriad of tools available to them, you'll know about it but no one can
> > > come to you and stuff it in your brain for you.
> > > [search terms, hexdump, pax, valgrind, strace, ptrace, gdb]
> > >
> > > "So when the Design Documents are not understood, its better to leave
> > > the development to the big boys.."
> > >
> > > Who are the big boys ? The propreitary system developers ? hahah..
> > These
> > > I find are baseless arguments based on a very small view of the open
> > > source by someone [it seems] who is not

[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

[Prasanna Gautam]

On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
> their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
> Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
> going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
> next "Evil".


Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for that...
but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much
hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to
motivate me that M$ is cool is " u can earn a lot of money "
I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on my
machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$
used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push standards...
now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a
virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own
SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system

Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot
more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM
hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived
by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's
cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a
few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or
join you-know-who google..

M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux.. because of
the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the linux
hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful companies,
SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market
from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.


PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
that'd be notepad... :P)  or use a greasemonkey script...


On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, "Prasanna Gautam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents where he
> > discusses  the waning power of microsoft...
> >
> > http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html
>
>
> >
>

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[FOSS Nepal] Happy System Administrator day

[Prasanna Gautam]

*"Today is the 8th annual System Administrator Appreciation
Day.
It is always the last Friday in July and is the one day that SysAdmins are
supposed to get the respect they deserve to be getting the other 364 days of
the year. Today is the day that we wish everyone would considering the
daunting tasks, small budgets, and ridiculous timelines that many SysAdmins
face all year. Please thank them for everything they do for you and for your
business. If you think you have a great SysAdmin today would be the day to
nominate them for SysAdmin of the Year .
'The idea for System Administrator Day was inspired by a print ad for a
Hewlett-Packard laser jet printer. The ad showed lines of employees bringing
gifts for the IT guy who made the purchase. System Administrator
Appreciation Day has, over the years, garnered support from many
organizations."*

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