[foss-nepal] Re: WISH YOU HAPPY VIJAYA DASHAMI
Happy Bijaya Dashami to all.. Darn, we're in 2066 already? Prasanna Gautam On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, muna thapa muna21cent...@hotmail.comwrote: *wish you A very happy and peaceful Vijaya Dashami 2066* ** *THANK YOU,* *MUNA THAPA* -- Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ nowhttp://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try+bing_1x1 Ahem, Ironic on a FOSS Mailing list I'd say. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: foss-nepal+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Mailing List Guidelines: http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Mailing_List_Guidelines Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] Re: Arduino Presentation.
Prasanna Gautam On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Ujwal Shrestha ujw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm planning to have a presentation on arduino for SFD09. any suggestion? If you still have the accelerometer, I'd say go over interfacing that with arduino and maybe move something in screen, like some 3D plane. Oh yeah, post it online so that all can see. p.s. sorry to have this posting after a long long gap. -- Regards Ujwal Shrestha http://ujwal.shrestha.me/ http://plusmovies.net/ http://entermovies.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: foss-nepal+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] RMS's reply to a MIT mailing list
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3116/rmsll5.png Heh, sometimes you feel is it going too far? ~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] Re: Try Google Lively a new way to chat
I've always found these things way too gimmicky... ok there are people whose life sucks enough to seek solace online but, come on... It might catch on but I'd much rather prefer the real world. At least it's not dependent on what physics engine is being used, or your network latency hehe ~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think online isntaller doesn't work in wine... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] Re: Google Policy Fellowship - deadline Dec. 12
~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow... google seems to be applying itself everywhere... :) Excellent, geekiness is going mainstream.. I wonder when the day would come when governments will be decided by optimal algorithms.. i hope it doesnt count attractiveness :p depends on the interpretation of attractiveness Google will find a geek far more attractive to hire than a welll someone just good looking but I get a feeling, chances might be better if two of those are combined... :P OK.. offtopic stuff... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] Re: Fennec: Mobile Browser from Mozilla
I think mobile is WebKit all the way :)... although Fennec looks really good... it might be hard to shake WebKit's firmhold. ~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mozilla's latest browser Fennec, specifically designed for mobile devices has finally been released. Currently, it is only available for the Nokia N810 platform. Support for other platforms is planned for the future. Ars Technica has a review of the new browser. If you are interested in getting involved, but don't have a Nokia N810, you can install it on your desktop (Windows, Linux and OS X) and experiment with it. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081020-hands-on-fennec-alpha-1-puts-firefox-on-your-handheld.html http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/#start https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Releases Though there is new forum for news i think there are not much members subscribing it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[foss-nepal] Re: Fwd: (Survey) Do you read the mails?
How about using something like Google Docs Forms for this kind of thing next time? ~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM Subject: Re: (Survey) Do you read the mails? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Saurabh Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED], kumar paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Surmandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. b. 2. c, Kinda sorta case here because I haven't done this for a while. 4. c. Probably 5. Perhaps improved quality on tech discussions. 6. I think it's fine as it is because if we start creating walls between newbie-zones and techie-zones and things as such, it hinders productive discussions in general and the work would involve more putting messages into boxes, which isn't very fun to do and being n00b and 1337 is often a matter of perspective and doesn't actually serve much purpose. ~ This is my signature. You might have seen it elsewhere too but this is mine. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly complete this small survey for FOSS Nepal mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:27 AM Subject: (Survey) Do you read the mails? To: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com I have been wondering if anybody reads the mails in this group (mailing list). Please participate in this survey to help others know about the audience of this mailing list. Currently, there are a couple of active discussion threads in this FOSS-Nepal mailing list. They sound important, interesting and far-fetching. Most importantly, they require opinions from different people, as many as possible. Sadly, like in all other mails, only a bunch of usual posters have been posting replies to those threads. It looks, the threads will terminate without any specific conclusion. Please answer the following questions. If the answers aren't in the options, please feel free to provide your own answers. You may skip questions you don't want to reply. You may add your own questions and reply them if you feel it necessary. Please circulate this mail to people who don't read mails in this mailing list by sending personal emails. 1. Do you read the mails of this mailing list? a. Yes, I read every single mail b. Yes, I read only those whose subjects sound interesting to me. c. Yes, I read some mails where many people have participated or there's an interesting discussion. d. I don't read at all (i read this one accidentally) e. I don't read those threads where I haven't posted. f. My subscription type is no email 2. If your answer to Q. 1 was a-c, Do you reply or start new threads in this mailing list? a. Yes, pretty often b. Yes, whenever there's an interesting discussion. c. Yes, when I think it's absolutely necessary for me to reply or start a new thread. d. No, I just read the mails. 3. If your answer to Q. 1 was d-f, What are the reasons that you don't read the mails? a. I am not interested and I don't know how to unsubscribe from this list. b. I don't have a regular internet connection c. There are too many mails in this list and reading them is very unproductive and impractical d. I didn't find the mailing list as interesting as I expected it to be. e. The mails are sub-standard and the mailing list looks like a mess. 4. If your answer to Q 2. was d, What keeps you from posting to the mailing list? a. I posted on a few occasions, but nobody replied b. I posted on a few occasions, but I was greeted with harsh, unkind replies c. I don't have anything interesting to say d. I fear if something I write will sound stupid, too obvious or humorous to others e. I don't have much knowledge on stuffs people discuss here f. I don't have a regular internet connection 5. If your you don't read or post, what changes in this mailing list will make you read and post? a. The discussions should be more technical b. The discussions should be less technical c. There should be more posts from people I know. d. Others: Please write your answer here. This is important 6. What other suggestions do you have to this mailing list? Please write your answer. Give suggestions like a tech-only mailing list, newbies-only mailing list or anything you feel like. Please feel free. Bibek --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: installation of windows
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Prahmod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well guys just got a call from my fren.presently he has fedora installed on his system.but he wants to go for windows.he wants to install windows.but has a problem,whenever he inserts the windows bootable disc and presses any key after it asks for press any key to boot from cd then the other screen holds on for about a minute or something like that and returns back to the fedora. is the fedora not letting him install windows2 of my frens have got the same problem.guys help them to get out of this. Looks like the problem is with the CD, not fedora. BIOS takes care of the booting and any other operating system bootloader isn't involved in it, if the booting fails from the CD, the BIOS takes the immediate next booting device ( hard drive in this case) -- lastly SAY YES TO LINUX Prahmod -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Localizing firefox addons!!
I haven't done translating myself but this might be useful. http://www.osnews.com/story/18113/Firefox_Add-ons_Coding_in_a_Tunnel On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to localize firefox addons? I have tried using http://www.babelzilla.org but i could not find Nepali language and also didnt know how to proceed further. Can anyone help me out? -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Send SMSes in Nepali Unicode in S60 v2
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all, how am i supposed to send sms in nepali unicode in symbian (nokia nseries)... If I remember correctly, it used to work for Nokia to Nokia, the phone did the work but not for others. You can look for Hindi language set and send SMS.. I don't know of any Nepali language set from Nokia yet. Thanks to all -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: what is your view on domain names written in scripts?
I think it's good to have script/unicode domain names but I find it absolutely ridiculous to open up internet to the possible anarchy of all the domain names that are going to sprout up after this is opened up. Granted some people want to have some fancy name for themselves (granted they have a hundred thousand dollars and some server hardware lying around), it is ridiculous that some legitimate site in the future wouldn't be able to get toplevel domain name because it was granted already. What if we have a new country that needs a new Top level domain name? What if we go to moon and mars and want to get that? Although opening for unicode works for all of us and can be seen as an inclusive gesture, I don't find the 'opening' of the internet top level domains to be so spectacular. The idea with .com, .org, .net and the country level domain names was to provide a structure and identification to individuals and companies and have a standard. ICANN was setup to maintain that standard as a governing body. Unfortunately, the registrars didn't quite follow the initial plans and domains became quite profitable business to some. Who knows what kind of word we might use in 10 years and what kind of domain names we might want then? (Did you anticipate the word 'blog' in 1993?) I think ICANN should open it up a little bit at a time and according to the needs. Say, facebook.social myspace.social for say social networking sites, .blog for blogs or whatever but a few at a time and still maintain the current hierarchy. The hierarchy provides structure to the internet and these actions might just break the internet as we know it or make some nice little walled gardens for some... with people playing premiums to view their favorite .xxx domains. It will be interesting to see how this will be 'regulated' On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:57 PM, jaHsaaymi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it. Why restrict, where it is possible... Unicode works, Many people use non-english stuff, Why restrict the internet domain names to english... Great! On Jun 27, 11:25 am, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 KOOL Regards Ujwal On 6/27/08, suVasH. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks cool lets see if it gets really useful suVasH. On 6/27/08, Jitendra kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:02 AM, bibstha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great news!! It means now we can have domain names like फस . नेपाल ? Yup, it is really a great news. Finally the goal that was set in 1998 is complete after 10 years. I am desperate to watch ur dream domain come true, bibek :). On Jun 26, 11:57 pm, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ke ho shankar naya flame war suru garney tarkhar ma ho ki kya ho ;) On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Shankar Pokharel wrote: Domain names written in scripts has been finally approved by ICANN, BBC writes: The net's regulator, Icann, voted unanimously to relax the strict rules on so-called top-level domain names, such as .com or .uk. A second proposal, to introduce domain names written in scripts, such as Asian and Arabic, was also approved. Full article at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm What do you think about it? $nkr -- Regards Ujwal Shrestha -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: OT: A chance to go to space
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This is interesting. I may not witness human lands on Mars. I may not even visit the Moon. You sound sad, SETI will find some aliens that'll abduct you there ... :) But, this project surely makes our name into space: http://namesinspace.seti.org/launch/blastoff?serial=18557 Interesting link nonetheless. By the way, I just discovered this nifty thing that gmail pops up over links that lets you test, edit links... :) -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 13:10:54 up 5:02, 2.6.24-18-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org The real challenge of teaching is getting your students motivated to learn. -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS-Nepal] Re: After South Africa; India, Brazil next to take issue with Open XML
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.betanews.com/article/India_Brazil_next_to_take_issue_with_Open_XML/1212163565 Didn't India reject it already? http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/24/116from=rss -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Facing Problems in Localization
That's a great idea. I wonder if MPP has such a conversion database. Often, we have to concoct what translates to what everytime any translation endeavor is attempted. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Is Linux Sysadmin on high demand in your country?
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, Can someone tell me a little whether Linux Sysadmin is on high demand in your country? If so, are there many foreigners filling the vacancies? So far, based on my limited observation in Indonesia, the demand is quite high. But finding the right one is not easy, in terms of needed skills and acceptable salaries. Ones who are already skillful often ask too high salaries and those who are willing to work from the ground up are often too newbie to give acceptable contribution for the company. How is the situation in your country? I guess getting a good sysadmin is hard everywhere but it's a nice skill to have anyways. I think most of the good sysadmin work inside ISPs or large corporations anyways, and the work done inside is really hard to judge even if they work on OSS stuff because either a lot of the stuff is so routine or so related to the company's security that it can't be declassified. I think some requirements for a good sysadmin now are: * Being able to work on multiple platforms.. at least having idea/skill on stuff like LDAP, NIS... at least making Windows and linux talk better * Understanding networks and security scenarios and being able to react fast. * Communication skills It's often the case that sysadmins don't communicate too effectively or assume too much, u might want to avoid that. * Interest in learning new things --- it might actually payoff someone who knows some useful skills with an interest in developing skills than someone who knows what's hot now but not too enthused in learning new tricks. Of course these are rather generic. Often times, it depends from company to company. A small company might be good with a different skill set than a larger one. Also, in places like Nepal, often one person is managing many places too which can be both a good thing or bad. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] ubuntu.org.np
Hi Everyone, ubuntu.org.np has been in existence for a while. I believe a week or so. I'm not exactly sure how many people know about this already but this is more or less official notification for participation in the community. So far, some of us have been working on getting new articles and tutorials up and trying to make use of this new domain. I'm opening this new thread for questions and answers and ideas about how we can build a strong community around ubuntu.org.np. Some of the things that are apparent right now are: A new theme--- a more nepal oriented theme Mailing list categories-- what do you want to discuss specifically in ubuntu.org.np Regards, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS-Nepal newsletter
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could put the foss-nepal newsletter online for those of us that don't have a way to get access to the hard copy. +1 from me -Himanshu -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam updates
Hey guys, We are planning to get a server running for the Ubuntu Nepal Team. It's closer than you'd think ;). So, we need a nice little logo for our site.. Can we throw in some ideas and get it done soon? Here are some inspirations ubuntu-in.org ubuntu-au.org -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam
Hey everyone, We just created a page at ubuntu.com for the NepalTeam. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam Feel free to discuss/add remove ideas for the todos... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam/Todo How about having one of these ? Hardy release party... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties It's coming soon though :) Piney ka bahana chahiye...:P -- Prasanna Gautam 300 Summit Street #700248 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: My latest gnome desktop
Very apple-esque, Good job :) प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote: With the use of Various artworks and applications I finally got this desktop. I this nothing more to this will be good. Please help me if i could improve my Gnome desktop. Regards, -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Pidgin password advisory
I think the problem is a bit more acute in windows because of easier access to malwares although it can't be underestimated in linux. On Jan 18, 2008 12:03 PM, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in windows too Pidgin stores the plain text password in %userprofile%\../.purple/ folder in plain text with all email of your conacts and when uninstalled doesnt clear the folder and password file. IM contacts stored locally can be used by mailware to SPAM is a long known issue but as the password is stored under your home directory the FS permission should take cair of security, though in corporate environment this might be a little problem. other apps that has option to store password also store passowrd in encoded form anyways. There are some other applications but I really believe that pidgin should at least have some option for people to choose. I was taken a bit by surprise that they do so for windows environment too. in windows you could use the default encrypted file system feature and transperently encrypt the folder same goes with *nix system encrypt your home directory. AFAIK, NTFS's encryption system is pretty good but a general user barely uses that and it can be a rather serious flaw when it comes down to the average joe's computer full of games and spams and stuff... it can be enticing target to some malware makers. better option is to remember your IM password instead of storing it as it could float around in unallocated space of your hdd even long after deleted! Oh yeah. It has been long known that some applications do save some stuff in registry and in that respect pidgin does a better job when you uninstall it, at least you don't have the fear of easy access from registry... although you can still access a deleted file from an unencrypted drive (if you know where to look for :) not too sure people would bother to do that. On Jan 18, 2008 12:30 AM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :) good stuff,eh? http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords Here's the reason why. If you want to look at it... it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html Have a nice day, Prasanna Gautam -- X-No-Archive: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Asking questions
I came across this one again and seemed like a nice thing to refer from whenever we need to solve something or ask someone. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I think it will be useful for discussions and to avoid long and often useless flame wars. If you find some good resources like this. Forward them here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: .NET Framework Library Source Code now available
Now we can get mono working better on linux boxes? On Jan 17, 2008 4:45 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The veil has been lifted, you may now kiss the bride (er, code). http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/01/16/net-framework-library-source-code-now-available.aspx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Pidgin password advisory
Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :) good stuff,eh? http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords Here's the reason why. If you want to look at it... it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html Have a nice day, Prasanna Gautam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: SFD 2007 Prize has arrived!
Hmm.. I'd vote for SecondLife Party... heh.. for a change. IRC is also good... :) On Jan 16, 2008 3:29 AM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 11:43:16AM +1100, Ekta Silwal wrote: Congrats, subir dai and to all foss nepal team. Certainly we need a party for that .. lets celebrate in IRC what do yu say nepbabu, i am sure subir dai and team doesn't want to miss us during the celebration. hehehe Sure Ekta di. :-) We can use IRC for that occassion. No problemo ;-) Or, we can all even use secondlife[0] and go to one of the disco there? ;) [0] http://secondlife.com/ -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: KDE Released!!!!
Hmm.. gotta try again. I had to remove kde4 rc2 due to some conflicts with apt. There are some innovative features in KDE for sure and might be the answer to the more eye-candy seeking linux users too. On the more functional side, it seems to add some nifty features but sometimes the lack of proper documentation for some features on the site might be deterrent to some programmers to start developing on the new platform just yet. The best thing about KDE4 imo is that it can run on windows too [Thanks to qt4] so that people can ease up on the movement to linux and linux nerds won't miss their favorite apps if forced to use windows for development. On Jan 13, 2008 1:58 AM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed KDE4 and it looks interesting but not refined enough for mainstream consumption yet IMHO. -Himanshu On Jan 12, 12:58 pm, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KDE Project Ships Fourth Major Version of cutting edge Free Software Desktop With the fourth major version, the KDE Community marks the beginning of the KDE 4 era. Applications * Konqueror is KDE's established web browser. Konqueror is light- weight, well integrated, and supports the newest standards such as CSS 3. * Dolphin is KDE's new file manager. Dolphin has been developed with usability in mind and is an easy-to-use, yet powerful tool. * With System Settings, a new control center interface has been introduced. The KSysGuard system monitor makes it easy to monitor and control system resources and activity. * Okular, the KDE 4 document viewer, supports many formats. Okular is one of the many KDE 4 applications that has been improved in collaboration with the OpenUsability Project. * Educational Applications are among the first applications that have been ported and developed using KDE 4 technology. Kalzium, a graphical periodic table of elements and the Marble Desktop Globe are only two of many gems among the educational applications. Read more about Educational Applications in the Visual Guide. * Lots of the KDE Games have been updated. KDE Games such as KMines, a minesweeper game and KPat, a patience game have had facelifts. Thanks to new vector artwork and graphical capabilities, the games have been made more resolution independent. Detailshttp://kde.org/announcements/4.0/ Ujjwol Lamichhane UJJWOLINUX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Mr Bill Gates at his finest
That was funny. Nice to see him having a sense of humor. Its rare to have people laugh at themselves.:) On Jan 8, 2008 9:35 PM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear FOSSians, This is a very hilarious self-parody by non other than Bill Gates himself : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEgINHXQds --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: OT: writing upside down :)
is there a IRC plugin for this? heh.. will be fun... On Jan 9, 2008 3:52 AM, Basanta Karki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is for people who know how to play gymnastics hehe ;-) On Jan 9, 2008 11:18 AM, Himanshu Chhetri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been having fun all afternoon sending IMs with flipped text...hehe thanks for sharing. On Jan 8, 2008 10:57 PM, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2008 7:31 AM, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ˙˙˙uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ sƃuıɥʇ llɐ (: ɹɐǝu sı plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ɟo puǝ ǝɥʇ 'llɐ ıɥ It's on http://www.en.fliptext.net/ :) Nice man! But, what`s the purpose of this? -- Best, Z --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Happy New Year 2008
May 2008 be more fossible!! On Dec 31, 2007 11:33 AM, Ananta Bhadra Lamichhanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/anantablamichhane/1579426246/in/set-72157602234619833/ *Happy New Year 2008 May this year bring your more brightful days to your life!!* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!
Really good work there.I liked the use of javascript to enable the keyboard to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use this in Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs? On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of Contemporary Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha Sanchar Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the first corpus-based dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members interested can visit the site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the dictionary. Any suggestions or feedbacks regarding the interface or features of dictionary would be highly appreciated. Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs of the project, most of which are open source. Thank you in advance, Best Wishes, Srishtee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!
On Dec 17, 2007 10:16 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ya really good work.. i especially liked the javascript thingy which allows u to type in nepali without installing the actual keyboard layout in ur computer.. would be gr8 if u guys also release an api or similar stuff to access the dictionary through external tool.. anyways, gr8 work.. really useful.. regards, jwalanta I'd like to second that! It's a great thing to have for small applications and for OLPC if an API is released. On Dec 17, 2007 4:55 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really good work there.I liked the use of javascript to enable the keyboard to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use this in Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs? On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of Contemporary Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha Sanchar Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the first corpus-based dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members interested can visit the site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the dictionary. Any suggestions or feedbacks regarding the interface or features of dictionary would be highly appreciated. Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs of the project, most of which are open source. Thank you in advance, Best Wishes, Srishtee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] O_oO online
Hey OpenOffice.org has been released as online version by ulteo http://www.ulteo.com/home/ooo The best part of this one as compared to other solutions given by other companies is it has the whole OpenOffice.org package inside. It's like using the application itself. I think it's a much better idea compared to using an ajax or similar implementation. Loading time is quite slow... Maybe because of load on the server due to slashdot/digg effect perhaps. Great work though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Drupal How to makes News at CMS Wire
Great.. it's awesome.. Try to keep it up guys.. On Dec 10, 2007 12:02 AM, geshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All I'm not bragging about it but I think the drupal how to YIPL made is really worth a read. CMSwire.com a site that give news review and resources of CMS has a news about our DRUPAL HOW TO at http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/nepalese-drupal-beginners-guide-50-tricks-not-to-miss-002018.php Entitled: Nepalese Drupal Beginners Guide + 50 Tricks Not to Miss It says: Now there's a headline you never thought you'd see. Young Innovations, a Drupal development firm from the mystical land of Nepal, has released a beginners guide, in English, for the Drupal open source web content management system. Drupal how to For Beginners was developed by Young Innovations in conjunction with SAP, and is freely available under a Creative Commons license. Running to 94 pages and with screenshots-aplenty, the guide is comprehensive. The scope is similarly broad - beginning with an explanation of what a CMS is (as if anybody knows anymore...), and continues through installation, management, customization, and adding modules. It adds: Young Innovations should have called this 'Goldilocks Teaches Drupal', because everything is just about right. Right length, right level of complexity, right amount of 'dumbing down' for less technical folk -- within their stated audience of semi- HTML proficient persons, right balance between explanation and overt instruction. So download it here http://www.mediafire.com/?fvt2jxsdxvs Geshan YIPL Rocks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Best IDE for C development on Linux
I would still bet on eclipse with cdt.. learning curve might not seem all to worth it.. but definitely useful after you get over it.. i can't really get my head around emacs for c++ yet.. netbeans... well... I wont try it until Sun comes up with a really good reason.. On Dec 8, 2007 3:27 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:24:08PM -0800, prob wrote: Hi all, Can anyone suggest the best IDE for C development on Linux, based on your experience. Makefile, gcc/g++, Vim. Those suit my need but sometimes I use Eclipse with CDT as well. I'm currently using Eclipse CDT on Fedora 6 (not the crap that comes by default, I removed that and downloaded/installed the one from eclipse.org). Its kind of OK, but I'm looking for something better, I don't think there's anything better than Eclipse if you are looking for the whole shebang. You could give Anjuta a try like Jwalanta said but I'd bet my time money on (Eclipse) or (Makefile, gcc/g++ and Vim). especially the interface. I've also used Netbeans. I liked the interface. Spacious too. But always had problem with indexing etc., I Netbeans? Whoah! Is Sun moving to C++ now or what? Like Jwalanta said, try all and use what you like. There's no 'one size fits all' solution. :) -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????
On Dec 7, 2007 2:49 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is not the Realtek's ethernet. Probably the IC is from realtek. As i know Debian 4.0 got the driver for you. have you installed pppoe * softwares... ? Oh yeah... i had a terrible time with those things ug there was this silan or some other card by intex that didn't work on the 2.6 whatever i did... i think it had worked once... but not good enuff to be considered as working.. altho it used realtech chip.. and on windows it did show as realtek.. On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux problem..? for linux.. u can use .. for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be running downloads... at or cron to schedule tasks... when u want... look at some documentations... :) windows has it's own gui schedule thingy... On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 9:32am, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks all of u but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse.. and i try in suse i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file next thing i wanted to get help was download when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way.. -- Regards उजवल ujwal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] hotwire your life
Hey guys, I just pretty much (re)discovered a really awesome tool hotwire that lets you combine ur shell working habits with gui... like how many times have u wanted ur 'rm'ed files to go to trash instead of going blip? also, when have u thought you would rather click on those lsed files than type another command to run.. oh yeah that happens when i'm working with images... just give it a shot http://code.google.com/p/hotwire-shell/ btw.. i had a minor problem due to the icons because it wasn't taking the icons nicely... i had to edit /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/hotwire_ui/shell.py file and changed iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('hotwire', 24, 0) to iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('python', 24, 0) minor thing.. but was halting the startup nonetheless... something worth seeing also the installation scripts are python setup.py build and sudo python setup.py install this was on ubuntu 7.10, the version on the site is slightly outdated.. so compiling is better --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life
Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has integrated sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside firefox or any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea how I put this on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice to have it like lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts.. On Dec 7, 2007 8:26 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote: Really cool, Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls hotwire . Looks like a nice toy to have. :-) -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life
I don't think it's too hard... i think it's doable if implemented as a add on like some apps... venkman is a nice example... or sth else... in the lines of the google notebook so that u can just put in a shortcut and this thing pops up.. even better cud be a feature that opens all the ftp and stuff in nautilus like interface inside firefox so that u can drag drop things into folders... considering that ff3 can also browse inside archives, this can be a great feature to have.. I'm not totally sure how you would interface mozilla with the implementations though. On Dec 7, 2007 10:21 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 7, 2007 8:56 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has integrated sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside firefox or any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea how I put this on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice to have it like lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts.. ya a shell inside firefox would be really really cool.. ff would be the ultimate home then.. ;) n btw, there's a way we can get the terminal onto desktop. that means, shell on desktop without icons n all.. have a look. http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress/20070905/how-to-create-a-transparent-terminal-session-as-your-desktop-background/ this hack uses a cool software called devilspie ( http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie), maybe we can also do the same with hotwire too.. hotwire on desktop.. wont it be cool? start hackin.. regards, jwalanta --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life
ok... let's integrate it into the system itself.. i'll work on this thing over the weekend... if someone comes up with some ideas, to the possible measure, I'll integrate it... :) On Dec 7, 2007 10:12 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really cool 've started to use this already.. On Dec 8, 2007 7:11 AM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote: Really cool, Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls hotwire . Looks like a nice toy to have. :-) -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Sun Announces Open Source Community Innovation Awards Program
Aite, Millions everywhere... google... SUN maybe Microsoft will come up with something like this next:) {TROLL} On Dec 6, 2007 2:56 AM, Hempal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, This announcement came to my notice, hope you will find it informative! Sun is announcing a $1 Million Open Source Community Innovation Awards Program which will foster innovation and recognize the most interesting initiatives within open source communities worldwide. Beginning in mid-January 2008, Sun and the six open source communities will announce details on how developers can participate in the individual programs. To follow contest updates and major developments, visit: http://www.sun.com/opensource/awards Source: http://www.webknowhow.net/news/press/071205Sun.html Regards, Hempal Shrestha --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: LTSP Training of Trainers: Call for Applications
Just noting How about some session on network resource management and scripting? On Dec 6, 2007 6:31 AM, Subir Pradhanang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, This is a call for applications for LTSP Training of Trainers. FOSS Nepal Community (www.fossnepal.org) and Help Nepal Network (www.helpnepal.net) are jointly conducting a training for prospective trainers for Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP - www.ltsp.org) based e-Library. This is part of a series of trainings to be conducted in the future. To alleviate the inclining trend of 'Digital Divide' in Nepal, e-Library as an Information and Communication Technology (ICT) tool that aims to incorporate both 'Health' and 'Education' sector is opted with its viability in terms of technical and economical perspective in reference to Nepal and the Nepalese. With the rising interest in LTSP by different groups involved in rural education, it has presently been a topic of discussion for both national and international donor agencies as well as the community beneficiaries. Due to its growing potential and magnitude, we are in search of technical manpower who would help us deploy LTSP based e-library as volunteers in different parts of Nepal. Hence, this training is an effort to create this manpower from among the students who can devote their time for the training and the project deployments. The involvement of students in this training will provide them with enough expertise to be part of e-Library projects as technical volunteer. This will not only help the Help Nepal Network and FOSS Nepal Community achieve their goal, but, also the students as they will get a practical exposure about community work along with a chance to visit different parts of Nepal. They will also be learning a new system based on Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), and will further understand its potential in development of nation's ICT infrastructure. To sum it up, the focus of the training is to provide training to prospective trainers which could create a pool of volunteers for deployment of LTSP e-Library all over Nepal. Please see: http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=LTSP_Training_of_Trainers for more details. * Please disseminate it to your interested peer circle. Date, Time and Venue: Two-day training covering all the essentials of the LTSP system installation and administration on December 15-16, 2007, at the end of which each participant will be awarded a certificate for the completion of their training. The selected candidates will be notified about the time and venue by phone and/or email. No. of Participants: 20–25 participants on the basis of application form Areas that will be covered: - Linux and Networking Basics - LTSP specific administration - System administration Fees: Registration fee: Rs. 50 (for CD's and other materials to be provided) Lunch and tea will be provided to the participants. Please find the application form along with this email and send the completed application form in plain text format (.txt) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for sending your completed application form is December 11, 2007 (Tuesday). Please refer below for the format of the application form. We will confirm receipt of the application immediately. APPLICATION FORM Please provide answers to all the following questions: 1. Basic personal information: (a) Name: (b) Gender: (c) Date of Birth: (d) School/College Name: (e) Computer skills: (f) Contact Address: (g) E-mail address: (h) Telephone: (i) Mobile: (j) Are you familiar with Linux Operating System? Yes/No 2. Have you heard about LTSP before or not? 3. Why do you want to participate in LTSP Training of Trainers? 4. Do you think that the technical knowledge that you gain could be leveraged for carrying out community projects? 5. If later we call upon you for participating in an LTSP deployment, how do you think you could provide your participation? Note: 1. Please make sure that all the questions are answered in order to be considered for selection 2. The right of selection of the participants is reserved to LTSP Training of Trainers committee 3. Only shortlisted candidates will be informed by phone and/or email by Thursday December 13, 2007 4. Certificates of the training will only be provided to those candidates who will be present throughout the training Last Day for Applications: December 11, 2007 For further information, please contact: - Roshendra Khadka (98510-42842) - Shishir Jha (98510-87591) - Email queries at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Subir B. Pradhanang FOSS Nepal Community www.fossnepal.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe,
[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????
On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah i Got, Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just #su #$password #pppoe-setup all the configuration of internet. finally, #pppoe-start and finished. Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ? !check= not check? oops!! regards Ujwal On 12/6/07, Surmandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now i have no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages. you can get it from there. On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to internet. But dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it connects: as soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and just login and surf the Net. The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected. So never faced problem for internet. Regards, -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- HACKER VS CRACKER -- Regards उजवल ujwal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop
i think it should be more like a long term effort than a small bouts of excited hacking for a weekend... that doesn't work at this scale,... it's more about practice and having a community around is the best way to attain it... IMO... so I think the first thing is to have (perhaps) someone with experience... to help... often (in other places) there's someone in college... professor... who can help... But most of the times they aren't all too interested in helping...(at least in Nepal) because they don't do much researches there... So, the only idea i believe is to share annotations, documentations... I'd like to reiterate the importance of cross referencing... like lxr go to lxr.linux.no ( FYI there's another one at lxr.mozilla.org for mozilla geeks) that'll help in tons for understanding the kernel and how bits flow... :) only way to understand is by sharing and learning is done by urself no matter how much u r taught.. i mean the workshop isn't going to help anyone unless people aren't genuinely interested in doing it... On Dec 6, 2007 11:41 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's good to know peoples opinion here about hacking kernel and write device drivers. In my reference I started reading ldd3 for some 50 pages and so on for some months back but now it's /dev/null ,bcuz of some java and college works. Sooner i'll be back with some works in hand. Getting and making people involved in OSS development is extremely cool idea as i think regarding FOSS-NEPAL. It's good to have some workshops and workouts on LDD and kernel from fossnepal. Hope to find and get kernel workshops and tutors even by web or face to face. Regards Ujwal On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've created a link but I'll start writing on it in a few hours, days maybe I'll try to make it more organized and possibly include some pdfs here and there for the time being try downloading the oreilly books http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/ Oh yeah... the Running Linux book is also pretty decent in this series... Also I found the Operating Systems Principles books (Peter Galvin)... pretty good for understanding.. esp for people more familiar with java multithreading is a tough nut to get ur head around hehe.. oh yeah and you will understand windows systems better once u get familiar with unices http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Development_Resources On Dec 6, 2007 12:43 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its nice to have such workshop. lets discuss on organazing it. Guys here lets do it. Prasanna, Bikal and many others are therewith us. may be Nepalinux developers,Ujjwal and Manish could input on kickstart. Hope to hear from them soon. Prasanna, Why not we use foss nepal wiki for this purpose. lets add up there itself so one doesn't have to search various sites to get resouces/materials. I suggest to make a link on wiki.fossnepal.org and start wiking with it. Regards, -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- Regards उजवल ujwal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: reply as fast as possible
AFAIK there's no law against encryption algorithms in Nepal... until it's within international laws... like violating patents and all.. u know On Dec 6, 2007 10:33 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i had few problem with some question? so please if anyone knows about this please reply me as soon as posible.. What encryption algorithms are used in Nepal(legally)? And where can we get products like ZOLL, 3DEs, AES in nepal? They are trying to establish VPN between two locations, so if anyone knows plz answer as soon as possible. Regards AKash --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????
haha... nice... On Dec 6, 2007 11:44 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some months back Kiran dai reported that even by getting internet connection in suse 10.2. he was unable to browse internet with firefox. hence !check from my side firefox works! regards Ujwal On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah i Got, Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just #su #$password #pppoe-setup all the configuration of internet. finally, #pppoe-start and finished. Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ? !check= not check? oops!! regards Ujwal On 12/6/07, Surmandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now i have no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages. you can get it from there. On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to internet. But dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it connects: as soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and just login and surf the Net. The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected. So never faced problem for internet. Regards, -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- HACKER VS CRACKER -- Regards उजवल ujwal -- Regards उजवल ujwal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Reiser4 filesystem
here's a nice video that'll help to understand the reiser fs... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6866770590245111825q=Hans+Reiser --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????
I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux problem..? for linux.. u can use .. for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be running downloads... at or cron to schedule tasks... when u want... look at some documentations... :) windows has it's own gui schedule thingy... On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 9:32am, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks all of u but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse.. and i try in suse i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file next thing i wanted to get help was download when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] APJ Abdul Kalam in google india's summit
check this out... I'm kind of sure it's not technical.. but must be worth it... disclaimer: i haven't seen this one... so u can also consider this spam ! :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7VSia9AOe4sdig=1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] online learning for class bunkers
Haha, Sorry for the slightly subversive title... I was wondering how many of us know abt the online tools we can use to learn stuff that might be missed in class... or you have a rather bad professor who doesn't quite explain all too nicely... i've been using some links for a while... for all the stuff... as an assistance to the class lectures and often to learn new things... MIT open course ware ocw.mit.edu essentially all the stuff free to public view from MIT... all the class notes... videos and all http://www.lecturefox.com/ collection of such lectures A collection of lectures http://freescienceonline.blogspot.com/2006/06/free-computer-science-video-lecture_24.html This dude has managed to make a real nice collection of lectures and all. Google code for educators http://code.google.com/edu/ Nice place with intro to mapreduce for cluster computing... gives some good concepts on the topic Also, don't forget that hard copy book... that's the best resource most of the time Happy Hacking --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop
how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe make some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux sucks... On Dec 5, 2007 7:21 AM, bibstha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 tp amda-bara, would be real nice!! On Dec 5, 9:07 am, Amit Aryal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: la la basabta dai!!! all the best. farkepachi anda-baara khanu parchha , as a treat. cheers amit On Dec 4, 2007 10:00 PM, Abhishek Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the best Basanta Dai! On Dec 4, 2007 1:33 PM, daya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basanta sir, good luck and all the best ! :), On Dec 4, 2007 11:51 AM, Rajesh Pandey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the best Basanta Dai.. On 12/3/07, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:14:12PM +0545, Jwalanta Shrestha wrote: .. Dear all, The Center for International Cooperation for Computerization (CICC) is conducting the third Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop with School of .. Goodluck Basanta! ;) Are you going to blog or something regarding your experience? I hope you will. hehe.. :-) -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike -- Rajesh Pandey -- daya, lets share the knowledge, A candle doesn't lose anything by lighting another Fedora 8 has released!! http://fedoraproject.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Fwd: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin
Great work, but I have a few suggestions: It is supposed to be an e-bulletin but it still retains the paperlike look which is largely inefficient use of e portion of it... Also, it could've been a bit better if it was available on the site and perhaps as rss format so that we can put in some aggregator of sorts... pdfs can be generated directly from those nodes(I think u can just pass the design as stylesheet)... which might make the editing and other processes easier.. perhaps... Nonetheless, great work, good articles.. On Dec 5, 2007 12:22 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its really a good one. keep it up KUOSC team. -- Forwarded message -- From: Abhishek Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All, It's really very pleasing to announce that KUOSC E-Bulletin, December issue has just been published and released. You can obtain the soft copy in PDF format from herehttp://kuosc.googlegroups.com/web/december_e-bulletin.pdf . I would like to congratulate and thank Ms. Namita Agrawal who coordinated and released this issue. KUOSC always counts upon you guys. Let's make IT FOSSible! -- ___ Abhishek Singh Fedora 8 has released!! http://fedoraproject.org -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????
i had been using tk-pppoe from roaring penguin http://roaringpenguin.luky.org/pppoe/tkpppoe/ wlink has the linux version from their downloads page. You just need to compile and run... i think under ideal conditions, u can just run ./go or ./go-gui without all the compiling.. On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how am i going to connect internet form linux i am using opensuse 10.2 and linux mint 3 and wlink's cable --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop
I know a person in Nepal who has taken Kernel driver development training.(I'm not exactly sure, I'll inform after I have a talk with him).. maybe a hands on training for a few weeks/days will suffice along with some pdfs (or maybe even hard copy books (gosh!)). Once you get the idea of the workings, it probably isn't too hard... also the oreilly book is awesome in this respect... except if u are too lazy like me to implement them. Maybe even an extended hackfest among OS geeks can be good after substantial amount of research.. maybe aimed at controlling a simple piece of equipment... like a led configuration connected to LPT (or USB.. I still can't get my head around the USB things). Of course.. this kind of course will require some good understanding of electronics and OS.. but still doable. Anyone ready to make a wiki page? I can put all the resources I think necessary... or we can discuss here.. like which books to refer and what kind of project will be better and then culminate that into the final hackfest of sorts... On Dec 5, 2007 6:20 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 03:20:05PM -0500, Prasanna Gautam wrote: how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe make some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux sucks... Yes Prasanna is right I think. Developer's workshop dinu lai Nepalinux core developers would need to give -some- sort of training or DYI methods so that people wishing to improve Nepalinux (and hence add drivers to it) would be able to do so and also be able to give that back to international oss community. Moreover, for this to happen foss nepal needs programmer who can code in kernel (at the least device driver programmer) or at the least an experienced C hacker. Having said that, there are free resources on the web one can read (ldd 2nd edition found easily on the web if one wants to build drivers). The only requisite I believe is good knowledge about C programming. Not so long ago, I was directed to kernelnewbies.org mailing list by one of the Guru in Nepali kernel hacking scene - Mr. Manish Regmi so I think his expertise would be really welcomed in initiating such workshop. I think Ujwal has already started coding driver for his web camera. He can provide helpful hints to newcomers to that arena as well. -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0x5DAE3BE5 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking
anyone remembers those online hacking challenges ? any links.. i remember one python challenge that got us mad sometime back though. On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start hacking http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html its for newies Regards, Akash --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking
On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start hacking http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html its for newies before u read that, read this http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html oh nice call, that's a darn classic i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times http://catb.org/jargon/html/ and reading these http://paulgraham.com/articles.html oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are doing. Its always good to have good programming books Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those... that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than focus on the superficial stuff no matter how interesting they are... at the end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system... regards, jwalanta --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: If we can't trust Open Source....
On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X-No-Archive: I am sorry to anyone who have lost their data in the past. We all have. And I think we LEARN something from it. Don't we? I think it's time we call our data rescue man - Mr. Bipin! :-) Why don't anyone who have problem with rescueing data call Bipin? Or even Bipin should start up data rescue company that services OSS user's data for free! :-) we already have it for some years now, http://nepcert.org.np/(but not much attension ) Anouncement: free data rescue for people making visible comtributing in FOSS here in Nepal. how about expanding it... maybe exchanging expertise with fossnepal users... ? (Sorry haven't really followed everything.. sorry if this is little out of place) one thing we can all do is work on the established forums themselves and perhaps help other people too... Maybe I had a problem and I somehow solved it... it's always nice to take a little time to say how u did it... and place it somewhere searcheable... maybe the ubuntuforums or even here so that someone else can find it. thanks, -bipin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking
On Dec 3, 2007 3:49 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start hacking http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html its for newies before u read that, read this http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html oh nice call, that's a darn classic i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times http://catb.org/jargon/html/ and reading these http://paulgraham.com/articles.html oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are doing. Its always good to have good programming books Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those... that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than focus on the superficial stuff no matter how interesting they are... at the end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system... btw... IMO great hackers and beating the averages are must reads by paul graham regards, jwalanta --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: open source ocr
there's one from google... based on the tesseract engine(not sure abt the spelling though) ocropus... try searching in code.google.com... it's a nice engine... On Oct 24, 2007 10:21 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:15:50PM -0400, Ashes wrote: Hi guys, Is there any open source ocr program for linux and windows. Hi Ashes, Try this and see how it goes - http://dwarfurl.com/ded3e -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0D8EAFB6 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: NepaLinux as a co-winner of the international APC Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007
Bump! This is really great to find the efforts of Nepalinux community being appreciated... Hats Off! On 10/18/07, Jitendra kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, good work being appreciated. Congrats NepaLinux team and FOSS community. On 10/18/07, Bikram Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations to NEPALINUX team and entire FOSS Nepal community.. this is really the big acheivement.. I wish entire team for greater success in the future.. keep up the great work.. Cheers !! and Happy Dashain !! -bikram On 10/18/07, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:20:28PM +0545, Subir Pradhanang wrote: Hi all, Dear All, It is with great pleasure that I am sharing you the announcement of NepaLinux as having been selected as a co-winner of the international APC Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007. I would like to take this opportunity to thank our well wishers, supporters and the team that has been working really hard all this time. I look forward to similar enthusiasm, energy and support from all of you in future as well. For details about the prize, please kindly visit the link http://www.apc.org/english/chrisnicol/ Great News! Congratulations!!! This is a very cool news for all Nepalinux team and more so for open-source. :-) I think the hard work the team has done so far is starting to show up and the APC Chris Nicol is just one instance. On this cool auspicious moment, I want to congratulate everyone in the team including people who have downloaded and used Nepalinux 1/2 and used it. :-) Subir dai, when/where's the celebration party? ;-) -- Cheers, Bikal. GPG: 0D8EAFB6 Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS NEPAL SFD 08 theme
That sounds good. We should probably focus on the more grassroot level too. Big enterprises have big money invested on big softwares already. They will need a larger support base for any kind of move. I think it should be more about the general people/entrepreneurs and IMO for the wannabe hackers who want to play with the system. On 10/7/07, Ashes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux for Everyone - Enterprise or People On 10/7/07, Ashay Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enterpreneurship -- MAybe On 10/7/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, With one year of time, Lets start Planning for SFD 2008. I think the theme of Next SFD should be Linux For Enterprise. May be some other suited word instead of enterprise. If we are able to provide FOSS solution to our local enterprises, it will be a grand achievement for FOSS Revolution in Nepal. What the community says Regards, -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- Regards AD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: Reload this Page Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista
exactly.. the point of using linux is to be different... what's the worth of cloning a system that's inferior? OSX's interface rocks but I'd rather do it with the real OSX.. heck even in a virtual machine would be extremely cool. Though this does give you some bragging rights. On 9/16/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but why would anybody wanna do that?? On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:15 +0545, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote: [image: Reload this Page]http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490398 *Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista* http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=69176508d48a05c0eba30d07e395ff93t=490398 http://ubuntuforums.org/http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=69176508d48a05c0eba30d07e395ff93t=490398 Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSSNepal] Re: distros for sfd 2007
how about moving a little out of the box by including some BSD flavours or other *nix flavors too? like PCBSD, Solaris ? On 8/30/07, dips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, to align with the theme of Linux for Desktop, i think beside introducing general public of the different distros and the applications, we need to teach them How to install. I had gone through one of the pages in FOSS wiki where there was mentioned students having problem in installation and people from the team had to reach there. I and most of us i think have heard from the Linux beginners that they find difficulties in installing Linux in their PCs. They aren't sure how to format their disks, which partition is to be created, what are the requirements for installing, how can they dual boot their very own XP and this new Linux. They are very apprehensive and don't often install due to fear of loosing their data and XP environment. My point is that if we could show them some video tutorials (are they available in net?) or the like they will be really motivated to installing Linux else they'll think they'll be better off running some Live CDs only. If video tutorials aren't possible at least we could give them manuals of Dos and Don'ts during installation covering as many cases that can arise during installation. May be with these they'll feel more comfortable and go home with confidence that they can install on their own. Else i think how ever we show them, unless they on their own are confident in installing, our theme can't be achieved. it's just my opinion, how do u guys feel? please comment. -dips --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali
how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices... On 8/7/07, sonicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to make a theme song is a must. many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice and melodies...it should be catchy!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07
On 8/7/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need to remove paper presentation from adgenda.. thinking again.. i think we need paper presentation (muhahaha I won't be there to listen to the boring ones.. ok got overboard) I think if presented interestingly.. it can be really fruitful.. better not be the boring ones.. more like the david wiley ones.. this time i'm wishin the program to be short n sweet. events like paper presentation and foss quiz jus require too much preparation and time. i guess we are tryin to make the SFD lil' funky this time, (maybe that's why socials is there too..) but before the SFD stuffs i think we should go on with the FOSS Nepal registration process coz this is important for getting funds n all.. regards, jwalanta On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 11:14 +0545, Sagun wrote: I think paper presentation should not be removed from the SFD event. At least 4-5 papers should be there, so that some academic learning opportunity will be there for students and new members of the community. Regarding the formation of the core team. I think we can go by nomination. I would like to volunteer for paper presentation, proposals, advertisements and orientation tasks to new colleges. I think its high time that we start forming the team right away. So should we start a wiki page where the final task force will be listed. and leaders for each task is nominated so that each team can start working and preparing for the event. On 8/6/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed with Prasanna. But meeting on 26th july have discussed on removing paper presentation section, (as i have heard/I was absent). The main theme this year should be i guess FOSS for Nepal; grass-root to Enterprise. SFD, as i always say, should not be for techies but for end-users(Implementation). Its a day to mark awareness of FOSS to general Public Worldwide. For Paper Presentations and techies stuffs lets mark a new day, say, FOSS-Nepal Day...hehe ;) Regarding T-shirt, The obstacle is... our SFD theme which must be finalized soon. I guess this thursday we must call a meeting. As on friday, I guess there is some program at IOE??? FT squad plz finalize a team. I am also in. I think Shankar should lead the squad. -- Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो Registered Linux User #443940 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible.. -- Warm Regards, Sagun Dhakhwa Address at Work: Sambad Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya Patan Dhoka, Lalitpur, Nepal homepage: www.outlines-rnd.com/sagun = ==INITIATING OPEN COURSE WARE ( www.sixyadaan.org ) in NEPAL== = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali
On 8/7/07, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X-No-Archive: On 8/7/07, sonicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to make a theme song is a must. many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice and melodies...it should be catchy!! just one request, dont screw wid the lyrics. focus on that as it would talk abt FOSS. 5 minutes of music playback and just 2 minute if lyrics aint happening. get the idea yeah i agree.. it shud be abt the theme... the words convey it best.. so don't make it crappy just becoz it rhymes better... i think too much music suits zepplin or floyd not foss.. or any movement like this --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali
Wh... let's ask some underground band here... it will be freakin cool... foss song in speed metal is just so cool On 8/7/07, Paras pradhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prasanna, Why not !. Speed metal rocks !! :) Paras. On 8/7/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices... On 8/7/07, sonicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to make a theme song is a must. many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice and melodies...it should be catchy!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali
On 8/6/07, acpmasquerade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And again its not good to use songs like माकुरी जालैमा or ऐना हेरेर, The songs should be some sorts of modern pop or rock songs and should be targeted to some users who are in responsible posts and are responsible for everything in this world to be against open source or say away from open source. yeah man.. i support that.. it needs to really reflect the FOSS movement.. rock is best. and no hip-hop... But why am not I having the repliess This gotta be a serious topic... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07
On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion. 1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification will be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline will be 2 weeks from commence date. I had contacted station (kupondole) and they were ready for 360 a piece.. can anyone help getting it cheaper? Specification??? 2. Teams for SFD decied so far are: i. Documentation team ii. Documentary team iii. Freedom Toaster Squad iv. FOSPIT team v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and Sponsorship...) vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...) vii. Socials management Team Roles has to be defined.!! 3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad. FT SQUAD need to pace up.. I want to be in FT squad, maybe I'll join up sometime later to finish up the interface works.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07
I think it should focus on desktop use as it's on the rise. We really really really need to have something that developers can benefit from. Like perhaps intro to tools like Mono(for C# fans who want to switch for development), eclipse or maybe the performance gains in various tools.. even a good discussion on java on linux can be good. How about having some kind of competition or just a more for-fun type developer activity if we have paper presentations or sth, I think we need to have some prize for people who make it more interesting and fun. We don't really need big names just interesting things to discuss can do. I think we need to have some kinda suggestions session as to what OSS needs to get a stronger foothold on the desktop market.. ( i prefer to have it more on development side, but even socioeconomic issues come ) or as in Nepal's case, into the enterprise space. Maybe places like CAN can support some of these discussions, especially with enterprises. We do need some kind of enterprise support in Nepal so that FOSS rises. On 8/6/07, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh tshirt deign great, i hae fun few of them, so whts the theme or we can make anything related to SFD or FOSS nepal??? anything haev been fixed?? hey btw i will love to be in documentation team even though OER documentation was not that gud On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion. 1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification will be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline will be 2 weeks from commence date. Specification??? 2. Teams for SFD decied so far are: i. Documentation team ii. Documentary team iii. Freedom Toaster Squad iv. FOSPIT team v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and Sponsorship...) vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...) vii. Socials management Team Roles has to be defined.!! 3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad. FT SQUAD need to pace up.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] 100 or so books that shaped the century
This might be so much about foss but yeah there are some foss books, but definitely worth the effort taking a look at. http://www.amsci.org/amsci/bookshelf/centurylist.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Check this out.. surprising it still exists
They are losing more people with this! binding your website to a specific browser is plain stupid. On 8/3/07, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to http://www.careermideast.com using Firefox. Surprising that this kind of attitude is still happening :) -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 09:22:23 up 2:07, 2.6.20-16-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] IBM saves $250M by running linux on mainframes
*Today IBM will announce it is consolidating nearly 4,000 small computer servers http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998 in six locations onto about 30 refrigerator-sized mainframes running Linux, saving $250 million in the process. The 4,000 replaced servers will be recycled by IBM Global Asset Recovery Services. The six data centers currently take up over 8 million square feet, or the size of nearly 140 football fields.* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead
On 7/30/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that Google has not done evil until now, but just imagine the data it crawls around the web and countless search keywords it stores in its database. By crunching those data Google can predict what we like and what we dislike making exact prediction about our future. Recently, US Justice Dept. has halted the acquisitions made by Google of an online ad firm DoubleClick citing its dominance in the internet and the case is still pending. And guess what who are the suitors? That's right!!! Yahoo! and Microsoft. I think more or less every company that does search has enough data to do similar things at least google hasn't bowed down to government pressure to open up user information... Further any such practices do come out soon enough and there will be repercussions for any company... like the anti-trust case with microsoft... DOJ couldn't even break the company as they intended to do. Further MS has gained monopoly by clever use of business tactics, monopolistic practices. Google seems to have done most of it with genuine footing on good technology. Google acquired doubleclick to stop MS from acquiring it... this does have an evil side to it because it gives the people from doubleclick access to the google board. And those guys are pretty darn evil. these lawsuits keep happening... one day google tries to pull MS into court for antitrust case.. other day MS and yahoo do it for advertising.. it's just democracy and free market... that's how new technologies come... and die... and lawyers get paid.. On Jul 29, 9:44 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No. It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It uses marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then leverages that dependency to get their own standards and stifles the market. I don't think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in the public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking google down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the variables that google uses are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs would've been out of job) EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can point their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that options and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company immense power that can be abused. On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm). So , can we call google evil??? last month, EU also had made concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search... On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming next Evil. Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to hobbiyist,,, Microsoft isn't going to die,, they are too big for that... but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to motivate me that M$ is cool is u can earn a lot of money I have to use windows (albeit sometimes and almost never at home on my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$ used to dictate market... now it doesn't M$ used to push standards... now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived by buying
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Comment on Should Nepal adopt FOSS?
I wonder why they got the uncensored domain On 7/30/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jwalanta Shrestha wrote: but seems like the everestUNCENSORED has CENSORED the message, nepbabu's message doesn't appear there.. have a look.. http://www.everestuncensored.org/archives/opinion/000529.html if they have really deleted this message, this is gross!!! It seems the admin shamefully modded the post. Cheers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead
Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No. It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It uses marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then leverages that dependency to get their own standards and stifles the market. I don't think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in the public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking google down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the variables that google uses are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs would've been out of job) EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can point their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that options and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company immense power that can be abused. On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm). So , can we call google evil??? last month, EU also had made concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search... On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming next Evil. Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to hobbiyist,,, Microsoft isn't going to die,, they are too big for that... but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to motivate me that M$ is cool is u can earn a lot of money I have to use windows (albeit sometimes and almost never at home on my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$ used to dictate market... now it doesn't M$ used to push standards... now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or join you-know-who google.. M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux.. because of the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the linux hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful companies, SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else. PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess that'd be notepad... :P) or use a greasemonkey script... On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents where he discusses the waning power of microsoft... http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent
On 7/29/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anon E. Muss writes Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool that sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a 'peer-assisted technology' where Hahahahahaha 8D... lolz...lolz... Microsoft invented such thing which is called peer-assisted technology what a disgrace to the word invention... what sucks is they don't admit where they learnt the technology/the idea... it's as if they get those things out of the blue and all us mere Linux using mortals just have to learn from others hahaha Zico -- wake in your bed and believe, whatever you want to believe... http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead
On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming next Evil. Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to hobbiyist,,, Microsoft isn't going to die,, they are too big for that... but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to motivate me that M$ is cool is u can earn a lot of money I have to use windows (albeit sometimes and almost never at home on my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$ used to dictate market... now it doesn't M$ used to push standards... now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or join you-know-who google.. M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux.. because of the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the linux hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful companies, SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else. PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess that'd be notepad... :P) or use a greasemonkey script... On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents where he discusses the waning power of microsoft... http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead
I am a paranoid person... maybe that's why I use LInux over microsoft.. thinking in terms of a cracker... I think I'd rather put some kinda homing/listening program or some flaw in my cracked windows... so that i can get more viruses or get more account information for use at least in linux i can check from where my packages come from.. do a MD5 check on my iso to check.. or even sha1 check if needed... If someone uses pirated microsoft product or anything else (non-MS) pirated... (i mean those just cracked.. hexed... modded) and still bugs about security... and blames MS for crappy stuff.. blame urself.. use FOSS stuff... esp when it comes to OS.. if you cannot even trust the source.. when it comes to pirated stuff... don't use it.. OS is supposed to have full access to everything... so u are making urself naked to some evil cracker... On 7/28/07, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing to say about rest of the world, but for Nepal what I think is the only ALIVE thing here is piracy, If you use microsoft windows OS variants in your computer then think again, is it really microsoft's or pirated copy, ok few user may have genuine microsoft, but again look at most of other software you have installed (photoshop, norton antivirus, microsoft office etc) are they genuine, if you say they are then all I can say is WoW! you have made a great contribution against FOSS, so keep off of this mailing list, If you think software shouldn't cost that much or shouldn't be proprietary then piracy is not the solution, you should choose the alternative, which gives you the freedom of choice (owing to fact that you don't virtually have to pay for software if you use FOSS till date). On 7/28/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming next Evil. Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to hobbiyist,,, Microsoft isn't going to die,, they are too big for that... but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to motivate me that M$ is cool is u can earn a lot of money I have to use windows (albeit sometimes and almost never at home on my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$ used to dictate market... now it doesn't M$ used to push standards... now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or join you-know-who google.. M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux.. because of the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the linux hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful companies, SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else. PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess that'd be notepad... :P) or use a greasemonkey script... On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents where he discusses the waning power of microsoft... http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent
Anon E. Muss writes Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool that sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a 'peer-assisted technology' where '[e]ach client downloads content by exchanging parts of the file they're interested in with other clients, in addition to downloading parts from the server.' Right now MSCD is just a time-limited preview, intended to support downloads of select Microsoft beta releases (e.g. Visual Studio 2008). If this test goes well, Microsoft will probably start using MSCD for all their large downloads. How do you feel about subsidizing Microsoft's bandwidth costs? Read more of this storyhttp://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/28/1631205from=rssat Slashdot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Torvalds explains the scheduler decision
After the recent and really public departure of Con Kolivas, it seems Linus is finally coming out with an explanation... feels bad when kernel hackers go away... good projects die... * There's been a lot of recent debatehttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/24/1432245tid=106over why Linus Torvalds chose the new CFS process scheduler written by Ingo Molnar over the SD process scheduler written by Con Kolivas, ranging from discussing the quality of the code to favoritism and outright conspiracy theories. KernelTrap is now reporting Linus Torvalds' official stance as to why he chose http://kerneltrap.org/node/14008 the code that he did. 'People who think SD was perfect were simply ignoring reality,' Linus is quoted as saying. He goes on to explain that he selected the Completely Fair Scheduler because it had a maintainer who has proven himself willing and able to address problems as they are discovered. In the end, the relevance to normal Linux users is twofold: one is the question as to whether or not the Linux development model is working, and the other is the question as to whether the recently released 2.6.23 kernel will deliver an improved desktop experience.* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: release of linux 0.01
thanks ujwal for posting this thing... btw... it has info on the historical linux kernel 0.01 with some photos of linus torvalds and other interesting documents. On 7/27/07, Ujwal (RUBBOT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guys some digg from Prasanna, http://kerneltrap.org/node/14002 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Sourceforge Community Choice Award winners
On 7/27/07, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 27 July 2007 09:07:29 Prajwal Tuladhar wrote: Sourceforge has been running a community-driven awards process over the last month, trying to discover the top open source projects. Today, the winners were announced. The ones selected say a lot about those who frequent Sourceforge. But before I get into that, here are the winners: # Best Project: 7-Zip # Best New Project: eMule and Launchy # Best Tool or Utility for Developers: TortoiseSVN # Best Project for the Enterprise: Firebird # Best Project for Gamers: ScummVM # Best Project for Multimedia: Audacity # Best Project for Communications: phpBB # Best User Support: Firebird # Best Technical Design: 7-Zip # Most Collaborative Project: Azureus http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9750770-7.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547 -1_3-0-20 Well I'm surprised myself. Here's the rest of the article: What do these projects tell us about the Sourceforge community? * Some of the best open source work happens on Windows. Really. 7-Zip and Launchy are both Windows projects. I think since it depends on vote... and most people use windows it happens.. those are really nice and useful projects... dude, 7-zip started off as linux project ported to windows... launchy is cool.. but hey we linux users have a better tool... terminal * Sourceforge developers have a tenuous grip on what enterprise means. I've never (ever) seen Firebird in an enterprise deployment. Ever. Ever. * They like to, um, share things. Like songs. Movies. Etc. Both Azureus and eMule are generally used for borrowing others' content. I'm the first to say that media companies need to figure out new ways to get paid for their content. But I would have liked to have seen other projects higher on the list of top projects. Again, vote.. and yeah I have to agree... DRM sucks... and people don't want to buy stuff that doesn't give them freedom... some companies are going that way.. I think a little better way to approach this is to look down the whole list of selected projects and make ur own subjective assessment. * Simplicity is good. Most of these projects perform one small function very well. Sourceforge developers may be looking to open source to solve niche problems for themselves. UNIX philosophy: do 1 thing and do it good.. (too lazy to google and find exact wording) * And did I mention that Sourceforge users are developers? These projects tend to skew geeky. But then, that also comes down to the categories picked. right.. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 09:35:31 up 1:28, 2.6.20-15-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Happy System Administrator day
*Today is the 8th annual System Administrator Appreciation Dayhttp://www.sysadminday.com/. It is always the last Friday in July and is the one day that SysAdmins are supposed to get the respect they deserve to be getting the other 364 days of the year. Today is the day that we wish everyone would considering the daunting tasks, small budgets, and ridiculous timelines that many SysAdmins face all year. Please thank them for everything they do for you and for your business. If you think you have a great SysAdmin today would be the day to nominate them for SysAdmin of the Year http://www.sysadminoftheyear.com/. 'The idea for System Administrator Day was inspired by a print ad for a Hewlett-Packard laser jet printer. The ad showed lines of employees bringing gifts for the IT guy who made the purchase. System Administrator Appreciation Day has, over the years, garnered support from many organizations.* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Intel Releases Threading library under GPL 2
*WHO finallly Intel Software Dispatch have announced the availability of the Threading Building Blocks (TBB) template library under the GPLhttp://threadingbuildingblocks.org/v2 with the run-time exception -- so this previously commercial only package is now open for all the use, whether for open-source projects or commercial offerings (although they are explicitly encouraging open source use). The interface is more task-based then thread-based, but with a somewhat different view of things than, e.g. OpenMP http://www.openmp.org/. From the Intel release: 'Intel(r) Threading Building Blocks (TBB) offers a rich and complete approach to expressing parallelism in a C++ program. It is a library that helps you leverage multi-core processor performance without having to be a threading expert. Threading Building Blocks is not just a threads-replacement library. It represents a higher-level, task-based parallelism that abstracts platform details and threading mechanism for performance and scalability.'* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: About the Install Fest on 28th July
Thursday is good... if anyone is able... do come on IRC... we can discuss there too... informally On 7/24/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry again for the typo it is as for now, 10:00 AM, and i am sure this time. And we want to call upon a meeting for soon, may be Thursday so that we can discuss on this and start on SFD too. Hopefully Jwalanta will float a message soon On 7/24/07, Sagun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hope its 10 am. I would love to be a part of the event but I think Fossians from MPP might not be able to attend. We have social event (picnic) scheduled for Saturday. On 7/24/07, rajib shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oi shishir, are u sure its 10:00 pm or is it just another of ur typo?? On 7/24/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys we are still planning for the install fest with Brihaspati Vidyasadan, so lets get up to speed and figure out how to do it. So lets meet up as soon as possible may be tomorow and finalize on our plans for the saturday. And anyone interested, in Install Fest please note that it is to happen on Saturday 28th July, Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Naxal, i.e., as for now the plan is as follows Date: 28th July, 2007 Time: 10:00 PM Venue: Computer Lab, Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Naxal -- Shishir Jha EPC 1970,GPO 8975, KTM,NEPAL -- Warm Regards, Sagun Dhakhwa Address at Work: Sambad Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya Patan Dhoka, Lalitpur, Nepal homepage: www.outlines-rnd.com/sagun = ==INITIATING OPEN COURSE WARE ( www.sixyadaan.org ) in NEPAL== = -- Shishir Jha EPC 1970,GPO 8975, KTM,NEPAL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: New OS: cool
I'm super impressed by what they have come up in few months (when i was lazing out) some awesome stuff there just check it out.. I think a lot can be learned from there On 7/23/07, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://eyeos.info/ -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 20:09:21 up 12:33, 2.6.20-15-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Do you think: Too Many Linux Distros Make For Open Source Mess?
FreeBSD is better and faster... On 7/21/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Saturday 21 July 2007 11:19, Prasanna Gautam wrote: Yeah true... but seems linux is catching up wa faster in that aspect... come on, windows is still the same in like 5 years but linux has had some dramatic lift up... makeover in terms of gui and making things easy... Power of open source. :) I agree. Just give Linux time to evolve. I'm sure sooner or later it will be an even greater OS. It'll. There are gazillions of people working on making it faster, more secure and most importantly user friendly everyday. I am pretty sure I'll be able to witness that within my lifetime. ;) Diversity is good. Diversity is only good if the organisation/community is strong and have firm user/codebase. I've read about numerous open source projects gone awry/fork because there is absolutely no funding for programmers to sit home and work on the code. Let alone getting a job fully devoted to open source projects. Big fishes like IBM, HP, Redhat insist on making Open source the defacto standard but they still require ROA because at the end of the day it's a business. If you look at where Ubuntu makes money, it's through charity, professional enterprise support. They do not make money through giving CDs/DVDs to users or through IRC support or through their forums. These open source hobos are the heroes of the revolution and I salute them for what they are doing. These projects have realised that making freely available source is -the- way of the future. Look at Java itself as well. There are numerous projects where programmers work for the sheer love of programming and freedom than for getting money. Although getting funding wouldn't hurt. ;) The way in which these programmers work is unique and their tool are unique as well. For e.g., look at how long it'll take for windows to come up with better version of their stacking smashing prevention in their VC++ (similar to pax), valgrind and metasploit framework, git, moimoin, mailman etc These tools are all available for free (both clause 12). Look at KDE,Gnome,Fluxbox, XFCE or even plain X. They are so much advanced than their counterpart Windows. Look at virtualization softwares available for Linux (Vmware, dosbox, Qemu, Xen) and compare to Windows (Microsoft Virtual Server [buggy as hell]). Again most of them available for free. Lastly, the kernel itself. Even though I wouldn't say Linux kernel is bug free and insanity, it itself is so much faster than windows. Try running for e.g., Windows on 128mb ram with say 533Mhz clock speed. This is impossible! Now try the same with say Linux kernel (plain vanilla of course) and X on top of it. It'll run as hell smooth! The cards have changed and if Microsoft's playing dumb, I bet it'll be bankrupt in few years time (Make that within next 5-10 years). Power lies with users not big corporations. Anyway getting long now. So I stop. Just my .02 Cheers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] New Desktop Environment build on firefox
* Pyro is a new kind of desktop environment for Linux built on Mozilla Firefox. Its goal is to enable true integration between the Web and modern desktop computing. This looks like an interesting marriage of the web and the desktop. In Pyrohttp://pyrodesktop.org/, Web apps run in windows on the desktop, right alongside desktop apps (through compositing). Features expected in a desktop environment, like task/window selection and an Expose-like function, are written in Javascript.* --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: OpenMOSIX shutting down
thanks... yeah.. my first experience in hearing abt cluster was via OpenMosix... haven't tried... maybe in some years... I think the nepali government should really think about having such super computing frameworks... I mean let college students make it... Ankur dai... didn't you make a beowulf cluster for your final year project? Any special stuff to share... ? yeah except the bottleneck on 10Mbps ethernet switch!! On 7/18/07, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's sad to see such a great product shutting down!!! I hope it resumes and we can have some beowulfs here in Nepal too... ooo damn! :( Try beowulf in college lab. Seriously Qmue will help you get the job done. Archiveres of http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf is a great place to start learning. I've been intrested in High preformance servers since umm... about 2 years now so if you wanna talk feel free to call! :) -bipin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: How do the Language makers look like?
yeah... most of the geeks catch up on their social life later on although there are exceptions.. I still remember Guido Van Rossum's statement at google techtalks... it was sth like this I made python because and also because I had no life.. trust me, you need to have that to do something on technology, so IMHO if you find yourself caring too much about looks and still want to be a great technologist.. not sure if you are focused enough. Most of these guys pretty much had no life by general layman standpoint... but they are heroes by our standards... Being alpha geek does have its price... hmm... maybe since most of the core language stuffs were developed in the 70s, and having beard and growing hair (grow your hair for peace) was quite fashionable too... maybe a lot of them have beard and a little long hair... also... geeks are lazy in these kinds of things... so it's not unlikely that they were too bored to shave... On 7/20/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/19/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehehehehe Zico, I know how you look, don't cut your beard and you'll be fine! Hahahahaha. haha... 8-D :-) Btw, where's your IRC gear these days ? :-P Bro, sometimes i entered into #foss-nepal but didn`t find anyone... when do you usually enter there? I am mostly online from 8:30 PM to 8:30 AM...(+30mins i guess for bangladeshi time...) and almost whole day on saturday Best, Zico -- http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: How do the Language makers look like?
oops.. sorry for answering for a question asked to nepbabu... it was because you were commenting noone was online.. i have some time based restrictions.. maybe i'll be more on irc after i get a 24 hr connection.. :D On 7/20/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah... most of the geeks catch up on their social life later on although there are exceptions.. I still remember Guido Van Rossum's statement at google techtalks... it was sth like this I made python because and also because I had no life.. trust me, you need to have that to do something on technology, so IMHO if you find yourself caring too much about looks and still want to be a great technologist.. not sure if you are focused enough. Most of these guys pretty much had no life by general layman standpoint... but they are heroes by our standards... Being alpha geek does have its price... hmm... maybe since most of the core language stuffs were developed in the 70s, and having beard and growing hair (grow your hair for peace) was quite fashionable too... maybe a lot of them have beard and a little long hair... also... geeks are lazy in these kinds of things... so it's not unlikely that they were too bored to shave... On 7/20/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/19/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehehehehe Zico, I know how you look, don't cut your beard and you'll be fine! Hahahahaha. haha... 8-D :-) Btw, where's your IRC gear these days ? :-P Bro, sometimes i entered into #foss-nepal but didn`t find anyone... when do you usually enter there? I am mostly online from 8:30 PM to 8:30 AM...(+30mins i guess for bangladeshi time...) and almost whole day on saturday Best, Zico -- http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] for fun: cartoon
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: install-fest on 28th july saturday
Hey, Let's make a list of all the volunteers and maybe the number of stuffs they can bring... like 1. Prasanna Gautam can bring CDs, DVDs (upto 10 each), a camera to take photos.. can contribute by blogging... what distros are we planning to use? On 7/20/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 28th July is next Saturday guys, as far as customizing is concerned lets first go and visit the lab and find out what all needs to be done. On 7/20/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there r 2 or 3 different kinds of computer.. yup customizing the kernel would be a gr8 idea.. but why dont we some of us go n visit the lab, gather the configurations?? n imho, we definitely have to make our custom distro, coz we also have to install wine and dos emulators which doesn't come by default.. n about the date, i dont think we can postpone it. they r havin exam now, perhaps will end today n there's gonna be few days off. so next saturday will be the perfect date coz we also have 2 make few preparations at the school.. regards, jwalanta On 7/20/07, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are all computer same, if yes we can compile a kernel specific for them, also once installed dd copying will speed up the install-fest. And at last if possible lets customize ubuntu a bit using tools like UCK ( http://uck.sourceforge.net/ ) -- Shishir Jha EPC 1970,GPO 8975, KTM,NEPAL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Do you think: Too Many Linux Distros Make For Open Source Mess?
It's better than getting stuck to 1 windows for life... :D most people develop a bit of loyality to a specific distro or distro group anyways... like fedora, debian, gentoo... etc... so having more options isn't bad at all. Anyways, it's what freedom stands for right? You and I can really make our own distros On 7/21/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Shankar, Shankar Pokharel wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/07/too_many_linux.html 300+ distros ;) Does that count Nepuntey ? hahaha Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Linus hasn't used Debian.... strange
In an interview, linus torvalds says, he hasn't used debain distro(coz they are harder re) http://www.oneopensource.it/interview-linus-torvalds/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Linux as multimedia center
hmmm... linux is the only OS I use at home.. and it does every multimedia thing On 7/16/07, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how many of you use linux as a multimedia center i could find completer GUI embedded version rpm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Open Source alternative to Microsoft Surface
Yeah finally we have open source alternative to Microsoft Surface. Wish I could try compiz fusion on it (ooo, with water effect) http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/touch-me/linux-mpx-multi+touch-table-may-become-free-diy-microsoft-surface-one-day-278613.php --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Re: Linux as multimedia center
On 7/17/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/16/07, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use TV time for my USB tv card, and use amarok for music and VLC for DVD and videos, If anyone want nice and simple gui for multimedia I suggest to use elisa ( http://elisa.fluendo.com/ Okk... then what will you use for accessing the GSM cell phone Siemens CX75? And obviously what will you use for Canon ZR80 DV Camcorder? Haha... send me the camcorder and the phone... i think i can fix it in a year or so ! hehehehehe Zico -- http://mohibuzzaman.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Google Code for Educators
Here are some good information that could be really helpful for people learning new technologies... Most of it relates to the google talks... I believe they must be adding some things... liked the ajax portion.. security looks good too... http://code.google.com/edu/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[FOSS Nepal] Japan becomes the first Asian country to adopt open standards... Nepal to follow!..
Here's the News! http://www.odfalliance.org/press/Release20070710.pdf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ FOSS Nepal mailing list foss-nepal@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---