[foss-nepal] Re: WISH YOU HAPPY VIJAYA DASHAMI

2009-09-23 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Happy Bijaya Dashami to all.. Darn, we're in 2066 already?
Prasanna Gautam


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, muna thapa muna21cent...@hotmail.comwrote:



 *wish you A very happy and peaceful Vijaya Dashami 2066*

 **
 *THANK YOU,*
 *MUNA THAPA*

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Ahem, Ironic on a FOSS Mailing list I'd say.

 


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[foss-nepal] Re: Arduino Presentation.

2009-07-15 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Prasanna Gautam


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Ujwal Shrestha ujw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm planning to have a presentation on arduino for SFD09.
 any suggestion?



If you still have the accelerometer, I'd say go over interfacing that with
arduino and maybe move something in screen, like some 3D plane. Oh yeah,
post it online so that all can see.





 p.s. sorry to have this posting after a long long gap.

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[foss-nepal] RMS's reply to a MIT mailing list

2008-11-04 Thread Prasanna Gautam
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3116/rmsll5.png
Heh, sometimes you feel is it going too far?
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[foss-nepal] Re: Try Google Lively a new way to chat

2008-11-04 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I've always found these things way too gimmicky... ok there are people whose
life sucks enough to seek solace online but, come on... It might catch on
but I'd much rather prefer the real world. At least it's not dependent on
what physics engine is being used, or your network latency hehe
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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] 
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 i think online isntaller doesn't work in wine...
 


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[foss-nepal] Re: Google Policy Fellowship - deadline Dec. 12

2008-10-27 Thread Prasanna Gautam
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

 wow... google seems to be applying itself everywhere... :) Excellent,
 geekiness is going mainstream.. I wonder when the day would come when
 governments will be decided by optimal algorithms..


 i hope it doesnt count attractiveness :p

depends on the interpretation of attractiveness
Google will find a geek far more attractive to hire than a  welll
someone just good looking but I get a feeling, chances might be better if
two of those are combined... :P 
OK.. offtopic stuff...



 


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[foss-nepal] Re: Fennec: Mobile Browser from Mozilla

2008-10-25 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I think mobile is WebKit all the way :)... although Fennec looks really
good... it might be hard to shake WebKit's firmhold.
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Mozilla's latest browser Fennec, specifically designed for mobile
 devices has finally been released. Currently, it is only available for
 the Nokia N810 platform. Support for other platforms is planned for
 the future. Ars Technica has a review of the new browser. If you are
 interested in getting involved, but don't have a Nokia N810, you can
 install it on your desktop (Windows, Linux and OS X) and experiment
 with it.


 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081020-hands-on-fennec-alpha-1-puts-firefox-on-your-handheld.html

 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/#start

 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Releases

 Though there is new forum for news i think there are not much members
 subscribing it
 


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[foss-nepal] Re: Fwd: (Survey) Do you read the mails?

2008-10-21 Thread Prasanna Gautam
How about using something like Google Docs Forms for this kind of thing next
time?

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: (Survey) Do you read the mails?
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 Cc: Saurabh Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED], kumar paudel
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 1.
 b.
 2.
 c, Kinda sorta case here because I haven't done this for a while.
 4.
 c. Probably
 5.
 Perhaps improved quality on tech discussions.
 6.
 I think it's fine as it is because if we start creating walls between
 newbie-zones and techie-zones and things as such, it hinders
 productive discussions in general and the work would involve more
 putting messages into boxes, which isn't very fun to do and being n00b
 and 1337 is often a matter of perspective and doesn't actually serve
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 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Kindly complete this small survey for FOSS Nepal mailing list.
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Bibek Paudel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:27 AM
  Subject: (Survey) Do you read the mails?
  To: foss-nepal@googlegroups.com
 
 
  I have been wondering if anybody reads the mails in this group
  (mailing list). Please participate in this survey to help others know
  about the audience of this mailing list.
 
  Currently, there are a couple of active discussion threads in this
  FOSS-Nepal mailing list. They sound important, interesting and
  far-fetching. Most importantly, they require opinions from different
  people, as many as possible. Sadly, like in all other mails, only a
  bunch of usual posters have been posting replies to those threads. It
  looks, the threads will terminate without any specific conclusion.
 
  Please answer the following questions. If the answers aren't in the
  options, please feel free to provide your own answers. You may skip
  questions you don't want to reply. You may add your own questions and
  reply them if you feel it necessary. Please circulate this mail to
  people who don't read mails in this mailing list by sending personal
  emails.
 
  1. Do you read the mails of this mailing list?
  a. Yes, I read every single mail
  b. Yes, I read only those whose subjects sound interesting to me.
  c. Yes, I read some mails where many people have participated or
  there's an interesting discussion.
  d. I don't read at all (i read this one accidentally)
  e. I don't read those threads where I haven't posted.
  f. My subscription type is no email
 
  2. If your answer to Q. 1 was a-c,
  Do you reply or start new threads in this mailing list?
  a. Yes, pretty often
  b. Yes, whenever there's an interesting discussion.
  c. Yes, when I think it's absolutely necessary for me to reply or
  start a new thread.
  d. No, I just read the mails.
 
  3. If your answer to Q. 1 was d-f,
  What are the reasons that you don't read the mails?
  a. I am not interested and I don't know how to unsubscribe from this
 list.
  b. I don't have a regular internet connection
  c. There are too many mails in this list and reading them is very
  unproductive and impractical
  d. I didn't find the mailing list as interesting as I expected it to be.
  e. The mails are sub-standard and the mailing list looks like a mess.
 
  4. If your answer to Q 2. was d,
  What keeps you from posting to the mailing list?
  a. I posted on a few occasions, but nobody replied
  b. I posted on a few occasions, but I was greeted with harsh, unkind
 replies
  c. I don't have anything interesting to say
  d. I fear if something I write will sound stupid, too obvious or
  humorous to others
  e. I don't have much knowledge on stuffs people discuss here
  f.  I don't have a regular internet connection
 
  5. If your you don't read or post, what changes in this mailing list
  will make you read and post?
  a. The discussions should be more technical
  b. The discussions should be less technical
  c. There should be more posts from people I know.
  d. Others: Please write your answer here. This is important
 
  6. What other suggestions do you have to this mailing list? Please
  write your answer. Give suggestions like a tech-only mailing list,
  newbies-only mailing list or anything you feel like. Please feel free.
 
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: installation of windows

2008-07-25 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Prahmod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 well guys just got a call from my fren.presently he has fedora installed
 on his system.but he wants to go for windows.he wants to install
 windows.but has a problem,whenever he inserts the windows bootable disc
 and presses any key after it asks for press any key to boot from cd
 then the other screen holds on for about a minute or something like that
 and returns back to the fedora.
   is the fedora not letting him install windows2 of my frens

have got the same problem.guys help them to get out of this.



Looks like the problem is with the CD, not fedora. BIOS takes care of
the booting and any other operating system bootloader isn't involved in
it, if the booting fails from the CD, the BIOS takes the immediate next
booting device ( hard drive in this case)


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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Localizing firefox addons!!

2008-07-25 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I haven't done translating myself but this might be useful.
http://www.osnews.com/story/18113/Firefox_Add-ons_Coding_in_a_Tunnel

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know how to localize firefox addons?  I have tried using
 http://www.babelzilla.org but i could not find Nepali language and also
 didnt know how to proceed further.

 Can anyone help me out?

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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: Send SMSes in Nepali Unicode in S60 v2

2008-07-25 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi to all,
 how am i supposed to send sms in nepali unicode in symbian (nokia
 nseries)...

If I remember correctly, it used to work for Nokia to Nokia, the phone did
the work but not for others. You can look for Hindi language set and send
SMS.. I don't know of any Nepali language set from Nokia yet.


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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: what is your view on domain names written in scripts?

2008-06-27 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I think it's good to have script/unicode domain names but I find it
absolutely ridiculous to open up internet to the possible anarchy of all the
domain names that are going to sprout up after this is opened up. Granted
some people want to have some fancy name for themselves (granted they have a
hundred thousand dollars and some server hardware lying around), it is
ridiculous that some legitimate site in the future wouldn't be able to get
toplevel domain name because it was granted already. What if we have a new
country that needs a new Top level domain name?
What if we go to moon and mars and want to get that?
Although opening for unicode works for all of us and can be seen as an
inclusive gesture, I don't find the 'opening' of the internet top level
domains to be so spectacular. The idea with .com, .org, .net and the country
level domain names was to provide a structure and identification to
individuals and companies and have a standard. ICANN was setup to maintain
that standard as a governing body. Unfortunately, the registrars didn't
quite follow the initial plans and domains became quite profitable business
to some.
Who knows what kind of word we might use in 10 years and what kind of domain
names we might want then? (Did you anticipate the word 'blog' in 1993?) I
think ICANN should open it up a little bit at a time and according to the
needs. Say, facebook.social myspace.social for say social networking sites,
.blog for blogs or whatever but a few at a time and still maintain the
current hierarchy. The hierarchy provides structure to the internet and
these actions might just break the internet as we know it or make some nice
little walled gardens for some... with people playing premiums to view their
favorite .xxx domains.
It will be interesting to see how this will be 'regulated'


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:57 PM, jaHsaaymi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I like it. Why restrict, where it is possible... Unicode works, Many
 people use non-english stuff, Why restrict the internet domain names
 to english...


 Great!

 On Jun 27, 11:25 am, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  +1 KOOL
  Regards
  Ujwal
 
  On 6/27/08, suVasH. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
   looks cool
 
   lets see if it gets really useful
 
   suVasH.
 
   On 6/27/08, Jitendra kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:02 AM, bibstha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
   Great news!!
   It means now we can have domain names like फस . नेपाल ?
 
   Yup, it is really a  great news.  Finally the goal that was set in
 1998 is
   complete after 10 years. I am desperate to watch ur dream domain come
 true,
   bibek :).
 
   On Jun 26, 11:57 pm, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ke ho shankar naya flame war suru garney tarkhar ma ho ki kya ho ;)
On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Shankar Pokharel wrote:
 
 Domain names written in scripts has been finally approved by
 ICANN,
 
 BBC writes:
 The net's regulator, Icann, voted unanimously to relax the strict
 rules on so-called top-level domain names, such as .com or .uk.
 
 A second proposal, to introduce domain names written in scripts,
 such
 as Asian and Arabic, was also approved.
 
 Full article at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm
 
 What do you think about it?
 
 $nkr
 
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: OT: A chance to go to space

2008-06-12 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi all,
 This is interesting.
 I may not witness human lands on Mars. I may not even visit the Moon.

You sound sad, SETI will find some aliens that'll abduct you there ... :)



 But, this project surely makes our name into space:
 http://namesinspace.seti.org/launch/blastoff?serial=18557

Interesting link nonetheless. By the way, I just discovered this nifty thing
that gmail pops up over links that lets you test, edit links...

 :)
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[FOSS-Nepal] Re: After South Africa; India, Brazil next to take issue with Open XML

2008-06-12 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 http://www.betanews.com/article/India_Brazil_next_to_take_issue_with_Open_XML/1212163565

Didn't India reject it already?
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/24/116from=rss


 



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[FOSSNepal] Re: Facing Problems in Localization

2008-04-13 Thread Prasanna Gautam

That's a great idea. I wonder if MPP has such a conversion database. Often, we 
have to concoct what translates to what everytime any translation endeavor is 
attempted.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Is Linux Sysadmin on high demand in your country?

2008-04-09 Thread Prasanna Gautam

Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 Hi all,
 Can someone tell me a little whether Linux Sysadmin is on high demand in your 
 country? If so, are there many foreigners filling the vacancies?
 So far, based on my limited observation in Indonesia, the demand is quite 
 high. But finding the right one is not easy, in terms of needed skills and 
 acceptable salaries. Ones who are already skillful often ask too high 
 salaries and those who are willing to work from the ground up are often 
 too newbie to give acceptable contribution for the company.
 How is the situation in your country?
   
I guess getting a good sysadmin is hard everywhere but it's a nice skill
to have anyways. I think most of the good sysadmin work inside ISPs or
large corporations anyways, and the work done inside is really hard to
judge even if they work on OSS stuff because either a lot of the stuff
is so routine or so related to the company's security that it can't be
declassified.

I think some requirements for a good sysadmin now are:
* Being able to work on multiple platforms.. at least having idea/skill
on stuff like LDAP, NIS... at least making Windows and linux talk better
* Understanding networks and security scenarios and being able to react
fast.
* Communication skills  It's often the case that sysadmins don't
communicate too effectively or assume too much, u might want to avoid that.
* Interest in learning new things --- it might actually payoff someone
who knows some useful skills with an interest in developing skills than
someone who knows what's hot now but not too enthused in learning new
tricks.


Of course these are rather generic. Often times, it depends from company
to company. A small company might be good with a different skill set
than a larger one. Also, in places like Nepal, often one person is
managing many places too which can be both a good thing or bad.


 Thank you.
   


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[FOSSNepal] ubuntu.org.np

2008-04-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hi Everyone,
  ubuntu.org.np has been in existence for a while. I believe a week or so.
I'm not exactly sure how many people know about this already but this is
more or less official notification for participation in the community. So
far, some of us have been working on getting new articles and tutorials up
and trying to make use of this new domain. I'm opening this new thread for
questions and answers and ideas about how we can build a strong community
around ubuntu.org.np. Some of the things that are apparent right now are:
A new theme--- a more nepal oriented theme
Mailing list categories-- what do you want to discuss specifically in
ubuntu.org.np

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS-Nepal newsletter

2008-04-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi everyone,
 I was wondering if someone could put the foss-nepal newsletter
 online for those of us that don't have a way to get access to the hard
 copy.

+1 from me



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[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam updates

2008-03-29 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hey guys,
  We are planning to get  a server running for the Ubuntu Nepal Team. It's
closer than you'd think ;). So, we need a nice little logo for our site..
Can we throw in some ideas and get it done soon?

Here are some inspirations
ubuntu-in.org
ubuntu-au.org

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[FOSSNepal] Ubuntu NepalTeam

2008-03-28 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hey everyone,
  We just created a page at ubuntu.com for the NepalTeam.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam

Feel free to discuss/add remove ideas for the todos...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam/Todo

How about having one of these ? Hardy release party...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties

It's coming soon though :)

Piney ka bahana chahiye...:P

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[FOSSNepal] Re: My latest gnome desktop

2008-03-26 Thread Prasanna Gautam

Very apple-esque,

Good job :)

प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote:
 With the use of Various artworks and applications I finally got this 
 desktop. I this nothing more to this will be good.

 Please help me if i could improve my Gnome desktop.

 Regards,
 -- 
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 Registered Linux User #443940
 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
 

 



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[FOSSNepal] Re: Pidgin password advisory

2008-01-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I think the problem is a bit more acute in windows because of easier access
to malwares although it can't be underestimated in linux.

On Jan 18, 2008 12:03 PM, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  in windows too Pidgin stores the plain text password in
 %userprofile%\../.purple/   folder in plain text with all email of
 your conacts and when uninstalled doesnt clear the folder and password
 file.

 IM contacts stored locally can be used by mailware to SPAM is a long known
 issue

 but as the password is stored under your home directory the FS
 permission should take cair of security, though in corporate
 environment this might be a little problem. other apps that has option
 to store password also store passowrd in encoded form anyways.

There are some other applications but I really believe that pidgin should at
least have some option for people to choose. I was taken a bit by surprise
that they do so for windows environment too.


 in windows you could use the default encrypted file system feature and
 transperently encrypt the folder same goes with *nix system
 encrypt your home directory.

AFAIK, NTFS's encryption system is pretty good but a general user barely
uses that and it can be a rather serious flaw when it comes down to the
average joe's computer full of games and spams and stuff... it can be
enticing target to some malware makers.


 better option is to remember your IM password instead of storing it as
 it could float around in unallocated space of your hdd even long after
 deleted!

Oh yeah. It has been long known that some applications do save some stuff in
registry and in that respect pidgin does a better job when you uninstall it,
at least you don't have the fear of easy access from registry... although
you can still access a deleted file from an unencrypted drive (if you know
where to look for :) not too sure people would bother to do that.


 On Jan 18, 2008 12:30 AM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :)
 good
  stuff,eh?
  http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
  Here's the reason why.
  If you want to look at it...  it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml
  I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across.
  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html
 
  Have a nice day,
  Prasanna Gautam
 
  
 



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[FOSSNepal] Asking questions

2008-01-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I came across this one again and seemed like a nice thing to refer from
whenever we need to solve something or ask someone.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
I think it will be useful for discussions and to avoid long and often
useless flame wars. If you find some good resources like this. Forward them
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[FOSSNepal] Re: .NET Framework Library Source Code now available

2008-01-17 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Now we can get mono working better on linux boxes?

On Jan 17, 2008 4:45 AM, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The veil has been lifted, you may now kiss the bride (er, code).


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[FOSSNepal] Pidgin password advisory

2008-01-17 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Did you guys know that pidgin saves all your passwords in plaintext? :) good
stuff,eh?
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
Here's the reason why.
If you want to look at it...  it's at $HOME/.purple/accounts.xml
I'd also like to give a solution to this that I came across.
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for-pidgin.html

Have a nice day,
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[FOSSNepal] Re: SFD 2007 Prize has arrived!

2008-01-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hmm.. I'd vote for SecondLife Party... heh.. for a change. IRC is also
good... :)

On Jan 16, 2008 3:29 AM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 11:43:16AM +1100, Ekta Silwal wrote:
  Congrats, subir dai and to all foss nepal team.
  Certainly we need a party for that .. lets celebrate
 in
  IRC what do yu say nepbabu, i am sure subir dai and team doesn't want to
  miss us during the celebration. hehehe

 Sure Ekta di. :-) We can use IRC for that occassion. No problemo ;-) Or,
 we can all even use secondlife[0] and go to one of the disco there? ;)

 [0] http://secondlife.com/

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[FOSSNepal] Re: KDE Released!!!!

2008-01-13 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hmm.. gotta try again. I had to remove kde4 rc2 due to some conflicts with
apt.  There are some innovative features in KDE for sure and might be the
answer to the more  eye-candy seeking linux users too. On the more
functional side, it seems to add some nifty features but sometimes the lack
of proper documentation for some features on the site might be  deterrent to
some programmers to start developing on the new platform just yet. The best
thing about KDE4 imo is that it can run on windows too [Thanks to qt4] so
that people can ease up on the movement to linux and linux nerds won't miss
their favorite apps if forced to use windows for development.


On Jan 13, 2008 1:58 AM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I installed KDE4 and it looks interesting but not refined enough for
 mainstream consumption yet IMHO.
 -Himanshu

 On Jan 12, 12:58 pm, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   KDE Project Ships Fourth Major Version of cutting edge Free Software
  Desktop
   With the fourth major version, the KDE Community marks the beginning
  of the KDE 4 era.
 
  Applications
 
  * Konqueror is KDE's established web browser. Konqueror is light-
  weight, well integrated, and supports the newest standards such as CSS
  3.
  * Dolphin is KDE's new file manager. Dolphin has been developed
  with usability in mind and is an easy-to-use, yet powerful tool.
  * With System Settings, a new control center interface has been
  introduced. The KSysGuard system monitor makes it easy to monitor and
  control system resources and activity.
  * Okular, the KDE 4 document viewer, supports many formats. Okular
  is one of the many KDE 4 applications that has been improved in
  collaboration with the OpenUsability Project.
  * Educational Applications are among the first applications that
  have been ported and developed using KDE 4 technology. Kalzium, a
  graphical periodic table of elements and the Marble Desktop Globe are
  only two of many gems among the educational applications. Read more
  about Educational Applications in the Visual Guide.
  * Lots of the KDE Games have been updated. KDE Games such as
  KMines, a minesweeper game and KPat, a patience game have had
  facelifts. Thanks to new vector artwork and graphical capabilities,
  the games have been made more resolution independent.
 
  Detailshttp://kde.org/announcements/4.0/
 
  Ujjwol Lamichhane
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Mr Bill Gates at his finest

2008-01-13 Thread Prasanna Gautam
That was funny. Nice to see him having a sense of humor. Its rare to have
people  laugh at themselves.:)

On Jan 8, 2008 9:35 PM, Himanshu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear FOSSians,
 This is a very hilarious self-parody by non other
 than Bill Gates himself :

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEgINHXQds


 


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[FOSSNepal] Re: OT: writing upside down :)

2008-01-13 Thread Prasanna Gautam
is there a IRC plugin for this? heh.. will be fun...

On Jan 9, 2008 3:52 AM, Basanta Karki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this is for people who know how to play gymnastics

 hehe ;-)




 On Jan 9, 2008 11:18 AM, Himanshu Chhetri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  I have been having fun all afternoon sending IMs with flipped
  text...hehe thanks for sharing.
 
 
  On Jan 8, 2008 10:57 PM, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
   On Jan 9, 2008 7:31 AM, Fajar Priyanto  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
˙˙˙uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹɐ sƃuıɥʇ llɐ
(: ɹɐǝu sı plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ɟo puǝ ǝɥʇ
'llɐ ıɥ
   
It's on http://www.en.fliptext.net/ :)
   
  
   Nice man!
  
   But, what`s the purpose of this?
  
   --
   Best,
   Z
  
  
 
 
 

 


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[FOSSNepal] Re: Happy New Year 2008

2008-01-01 Thread Prasanna Gautam
May 2008 be more fossible!!

On Dec 31, 2007 11:33 AM, Ananta Bhadra Lamichhanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/anantablamichhane/1579426246/in/set-72157602234619833/

 *Happy New Year 2008
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!

2007-12-17 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Really good work there.I liked the  use of javascript to enable the keyboard
to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use this in
Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs?

On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear all,

 It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of Contemporary
 Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha Sanchar Project,
 Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the first corpus-based
 dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members interested can visit the
 site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the dictionary. Any suggestions
 or feedbacks regarding the interface or features of dictionary would be
 highly appreciated.

 Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs of
 the project, most of which are open source.

 Thank you in advance,
 Best Wishes,
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Online Contemporay Nepali Dictionary Launched!

2007-12-17 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 17, 2007 10:16 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ya really good work..

 i especially liked the javascript thingy which allows u to type in nepali
 without installing the actual keyboard layout in ur computer..

 would be gr8 if u guys also release an api or similar stuff to access the
 dictionary through external tool..

 anyways, gr8 work.. really useful..

 regards,
 jwalanta

I'd like to second that! It's a great thing to have for small applications
and for OLPC if an API is released.




 On Dec 17, 2007 4:55 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  Really good work there.I liked the  use of javascript to enable the
  keyboard to type and the suggestion menu...:) Are there any plans to use
  this in Nepalinux, or perhaps in other programs?
 
 
  On Dec 17, 2007 5:09 AM, Srishtee Gurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   It gives me a great pleasure to inform that Online version of
   Contemporary Nepali Dictionary was launched on 11th Dec, 2007 by Bhasha
   Sanchar Project, Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya. To our knowledge this is the
   first corpus-based dictionary in the South-Asia region. Any members
   interested can visit the site www.nepalisabdakos.com to check out the
   dictionary. Any suggestions or feedbacks regarding the interface or 
   features
   of dictionary would be highly appreciated.
  
   Also please visit the site www.bhashasanchar.org to check more outputs
   of the project, most of which are open source.
  
   Thank you in advance,
   Best Wishes,
   Srishtee
  
  
  
 
 
 

 


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[FOSSNepal] O_oO online

2007-12-17 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hey OpenOffice.org has been released as online version by ulteo
http://www.ulteo.com/home/ooo

The best part of this one as compared to other solutions given by other
companies is it has the whole OpenOffice.org package inside. It's like using
the application itself. I think it's a much better idea compared to using an
ajax or similar implementation. Loading time is quite slow... Maybe because
of load on the server due to slashdot/digg effect perhaps.

Great work though.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Drupal How to makes News at CMS Wire

2007-12-09 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Great.. it's awesome.. Try to keep it up guys..

On Dec 10, 2007 12:02 AM, geshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear All

 I'm not bragging about it but I think the drupal how to YIPL made is
 really worth a read. CMSwire.com a site that give news review and
 resources of CMS has a news about our DRUPAL HOW TO at


 http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/nepalese-drupal-beginners-guide-50-tricks-not-to-miss-002018.php

 Entitled: Nepalese Drupal Beginners Guide + 50 Tricks Not to Miss

 It says:

 Now there's a headline you never thought you'd see. Young Innovations,
 a Drupal development firm from the mystical land of Nepal, has
 released a beginners guide, in English, for the Drupal open source web
 content management system. Drupal how to For Beginners was developed
 by Young Innovations in conjunction with SAP, and is freely available
 under a Creative Commons license.

 Running to 94 pages and with screenshots-aplenty, the guide is
 comprehensive. The scope is similarly broad - beginning with an
 explanation of what a CMS is (as if anybody knows anymore...), and
 continues through installation, management, customization, and adding
 modules.

 


 It adds:

 Young Innovations should have called this 'Goldilocks Teaches Drupal',
 because everything is just about right.

 Right length, right level of complexity, right amount of 'dumbing
 down' for less technical folk -- within their stated audience of semi-
 HTML proficient persons, right balance between explanation and overt
 instruction.

 So download it here http://www.mediafire.com/?fvt2jxsdxvs

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Best IDE for C development on Linux

2007-12-08 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I would still bet on eclipse with cdt.. learning curve might not seem all to
worth it.. but definitely useful after you get over it.. i can't really get
my head around emacs for c++ yet.. netbeans... well... I wont try it until
Sun comes up with a really good reason..

On Dec 8, 2007 3:27 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:24:08PM -0800, prob wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Can anyone suggest the best IDE for C development on Linux, based on
  your experience.

 Makefile, gcc/g++, Vim. Those suit my need but sometimes I use Eclipse
 with CDT as well.

  I'm currently using  Eclipse CDT on Fedora 6 (not the crap that comes
  by default, I removed that and downloaded/installed the one from
  eclipse.org). Its kind of OK, but I'm looking for something better,

 I don't think there's anything better than Eclipse if you are looking for
 the whole shebang. You could give Anjuta a try like Jwalanta said but I'd
 bet my time  money on (Eclipse) or (Makefile, gcc/g++ and Vim).

  especially the interface. I've also used Netbeans. I liked the
  interface. Spacious too. But always had problem with indexing etc.,  I

 Netbeans? Whoah! Is Sun moving to C++ now or what? Like Jwalanta said, try
 all and use what you like. There's no 'one size fits all' solution. :)

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

2007-12-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 7, 2007 2:49 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That is not the Realtek's ethernet. Probably the IC is from realtek. As i
 know Debian 4.0 got the driver for you.
 have you installed pppoe * softwares... ?

Oh yeah... i had a terrible time with those things ug there was
this silan or some other card by intex that didn't work on the 2.6 whatever
i did... i think it had worked once... but not good enuff to be  considered
as working.. altho it used realtech chip.. and on windows it did show as
realtek..


 On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux
  problem..?
  for linux.. u can use ..
  for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be
  running downloads...
  at or cron to schedule tasks... when u want...
  look at some documentations... :)
  windows has it's own gui schedule thingy...
 
  On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 
  
  
  
   On Dec 6, 9:32am, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks all of u
but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse..
and i try in suse
i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file
  
   next thing i wanted to get help was download
   when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in
   linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing
   nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i
   have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come
   from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way..
  
  
  


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[FOSSNepal] hotwire your life

2007-12-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hey guys, I just pretty much (re)discovered a really awesome tool
hotwire
that lets you combine ur shell working habits with gui... like how many
times have u wanted ur 'rm'ed files to go to trash instead of going blip?
also, when have u thought you would rather click on those lsed files than
type another command to run.. oh yeah that happens when i'm working with
images... just give it a shot
http://code.google.com/p/hotwire-shell/


btw.. i had a minor problem due to the icons because it wasn't taking the
icons nicely...
i had to edit /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/hotwire_ui/shell.py file
and changed iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('hotwire',
24, 0)
to iinf = gtk.icon_theme_get_default().lookup_icon('python', 24, 0)
minor thing.. but was halting the startup nonetheless...
something worth seeing

also the installation scripts are
python setup.py build
and
sudo python setup.py install


this was on ubuntu 7.10, the version on the site is slightly outdated.. so
compiling is better

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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

2007-12-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has integrated
sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside firefox  or
any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea how I put this
on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice to have it like
lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts..

On Dec 7, 2007 8:26 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote:
  Really cool,
  Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls
 hotwire
 .

 Looks like a nice toy to have. :-)

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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

2007-12-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I don't think it's too hard... i think it's doable if implemented as a add
on like some apps... venkman is a nice example... or sth else... in the
lines of the google notebook so that u can just put in a shortcut and this
thing pops up.. even better cud be a feature that opens all the ftp and
stuff in nautilus like interface inside firefox so that u can drag drop
things into folders... considering that ff3 can also browse inside archives,
this can be a great feature to have.. I'm not totally sure how you would
interface mozilla with the implementations though.

On Dec 7, 2007 10:21 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 7, 2007 8:56 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Affirmative. It seems really awesome... i wonder if someone has
  integrated sth like this with a browser.. imagine this to have inside
  firefox  or any other equivalent browser btw... anyone with an idea
  how I put this on the status bar thing in the panel? I think it'll be nice
  to have it like lying around at startup perhaps... like finder of sorts..
 


 ya a shell inside firefox would be really really cool.. ff would be the
 ultimate home then.. ;)

 n btw, there's a way we can get the terminal onto desktop. that means,
 shell on desktop without icons n all.. have a look.
 http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress/20070905/how-to-create-a-transparent-terminal-session-as-your-desktop-background/


 this hack uses a cool software called devilspie (
 http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie), maybe we can also do the same with
 hotwire too..

 hotwire on desktop.. wont it be cool? start hackin..

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[FOSSNepal] Re: hotwire your life

2007-12-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
ok... let's integrate it into the system itself.. i'll work on this thing
over the weekend... if someone comes up with some ideas, to the possible
measure, I'll integrate it... :)

On Dec 7, 2007 10:12 AM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 really cool

 've started to use this already..



 On Dec 8, 2007 7:11 AM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:01:07PM +0545, Ujwal Shrestha wrote:
   Really cool,
   Hotwire seems to give extreme console graphics... list file with #ls
  hotwire
  .
 
  Looks like a nice toy to have. :-)
 
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Sun Announces Open Source Community Innovation Awards Program

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Aite, Millions everywhere... google... SUN maybe Microsoft will come up
with something like this next:) {TROLL}

On Dec 6, 2007 2:56 AM, Hempal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi All,

 This announcement came to my notice, hope you will find it informative!

 Sun is announcing a $1 Million Open Source Community Innovation Awards
 Program which will foster innovation and recognize the most interesting
 initiatives within open source communities worldwide.

 Beginning in mid-January 2008, Sun and the six open source communities
 will announce details on how developers can participate in the
 individual programs.

 To follow contest updates and major developments, visit:
 http://www.sun.com/opensource/awards

 Source: http://www.webknowhow.net/news/press/071205Sun.html

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[FOSSNepal] Re: LTSP Training of Trainers: Call for Applications

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Just noting How about some session on network resource management and
scripting?

On Dec 6, 2007 6:31 AM, Subir Pradhanang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear Friends,

 This is a call for applications for LTSP Training of Trainers. FOSS
 Nepal Community (www.fossnepal.org) and Help Nepal Network
 (www.helpnepal.net) are jointly conducting a training for prospective
 trainers for Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP - www.ltsp.org) based
 e-Library. This is part of a series of trainings to be conducted in
 the future. To alleviate the inclining trend of 'Digital Divide' in
 Nepal, e-Library as an Information and Communication Technology (ICT)
 tool that aims to incorporate both 'Health' and 'Education' sector is
 opted with its viability in terms of technical and economical
 perspective in reference to Nepal and the Nepalese. With the rising
 interest in LTSP by different groups involved in rural education, it
 has presently been a topic of discussion for both national and
 international donor agencies as well as the community beneficiaries.
 Due to its growing potential and magnitude, we are in search of
 technical manpower who would help us deploy LTSP based e-library as
 volunteers in different parts of Nepal. Hence, this training is an
 effort to create this manpower from among the students who can devote
 their time for the training and the project deployments.

 The involvement of students in this training will provide them with
 enough expertise to be part of e-Library projects as technical
 volunteer. This will not only help the Help Nepal Network and FOSS
 Nepal Community achieve their goal, but, also the students as they
 will get a practical exposure about community work along with a chance
 to visit different parts of Nepal. They will also be learning a new
 system based on Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), and will further
 understand its potential in development of nation's ICT
 infrastructure.

 To sum it up, the focus of the training is to provide training to
 prospective trainers which could create a pool of volunteers for
 deployment of LTSP e-Library all over Nepal.

 Please see:
 http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=LTSP_Training_of_Trainers
 for more details.

 * Please disseminate it to your interested peer circle.

 Date, Time and Venue:
 Two-day training covering all the essentials of the LTSP system
 installation and administration on December 15-16, 2007, at the end of
 which each participant will be awarded a certificate for the
 completion of their training.

 The selected candidates will be notified about the time and venue by
 phone and/or email.

 No. of Participants:
 20–25 participants on the basis of application form

 Areas that will be covered:
 - Linux and Networking Basics
 - LTSP specific administration
 - System administration

 Fees:
 Registration fee: Rs. 50 (for CD's and other materials to be provided)

 Lunch and tea will be provided to the participants.

 Please find the application form along with this email and send the
 completed application form in plain text format (.txt) to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for sending your completed
 application form is December 11, 2007 (Tuesday). Please refer below
 for the format of the application form. We will confirm receipt of the
 application immediately.

 

 APPLICATION FORM

 Please provide answers to all the following questions:

 1. Basic personal information:
 (a) Name:
 (b) Gender:
 (c) Date of Birth:
 (d) School/College Name:
 (e) Computer skills:
 (f) Contact Address:
 (g) E-mail address:
 (h) Telephone:
 (i) Mobile:
 (j) Are you familiar with Linux Operating System? Yes/No

 2. Have you heard about LTSP before or not?

 3. Why do you want to participate in LTSP Training of Trainers?

 4. Do you think that the technical knowledge that you gain could be
 leveraged for carrying out community projects?

 5. If later we call upon you for participating in an LTSP deployment,
 how do you think you could provide your participation?

 Note:
 1. Please make sure that all the questions are answered in order to be
 considered for selection
 2. The right of selection of the participants is reserved to LTSP
 Training of Trainers committee
 3. Only shortlisted candidates will be informed by phone and/or email
 by Thursday December 13, 2007
 4. Certificates of the training will only be provided to those
 candidates who will be present throughout the training

 Last Day for Applications: December 11, 2007
 

 For further information, please contact:

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah i Got,
 Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection
 in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet
 connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the
 PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select
 install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then
 you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just
 #su
 #$password
 #pppoe-setup
 all the configuration of internet.
 finally,
 #pppoe-start
 and finished.
 Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ?

!check= not check? oops!!


 regards
 Ujwal



 On 12/6/07, Surmandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now i
 have
  no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages. you
 can
  get it from there.
 
  On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to internet.
 But
   dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it
 connects:
  as
   soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and just
 login
   and surf the Net.
  
   The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected. So
   never faced problem  for internet.
  
  
   Regards,
   --
   Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो
   Registered Linux User #443940
   letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
  
   
  
 
 
  --
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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
i think it should be more like a long term effort than a small bouts of
excited hacking for a weekend... that doesn't work at this scale,... it's
more about practice and having a community around is the best way to attain
it... IMO... so I think the first thing is to have (perhaps) someone with
experience... to help... often (in other places) there's someone in
college... professor... who can help... But most of the times they aren't
all too interested in helping...(at least in Nepal) because they don't do
much researches there... So, the only idea i believe is to share
annotations, documentations... I'd like to reiterate the importance of cross
referencing... like lxr
go to lxr.linux.no ( FYI there's another one at lxr.mozilla.org for mozilla
geeks) that'll help in tons for understanding the kernel and how bits
flow... :) only way to understand is by sharing and learning is done by
urself no matter how much u r taught.. i mean the workshop isn't going
to help anyone unless people aren't genuinely interested in doing it...

On Dec 6, 2007 11:41 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well,
 it's good to know peoples opinion here about hacking kernel and write
 device drivers. In my reference I started reading ldd3 for some 50
 pages and so on for some months back but now it's /dev/null ,bcuz of
 some java and college works. Sooner i'll be back with some works in
 hand. Getting and making people involved in OSS development is
 extremely cool idea as i think regarding FOSS-NEPAL. It's good to have
 some workshops and workouts on LDD and kernel from fossnepal. Hope to
 find and get kernel workshops and tutors even by web or face to face.
 Regards
 Ujwal

 On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've created a link but I'll start writing on it in a few hours, days
 maybe
    I'll try to make it more organized and possibly include some pdfs
 here
  and there  for the time being try downloading the oreilly books
  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/
  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/
  Oh yeah... the Running Linux book is also pretty decent in this
 series...
  Also I found the Operating Systems Principles books (Peter Galvin)...
  pretty good for understanding.. esp for people more familiar with
 java
  multithreading is a tough nut to get ur head around hehe.. oh yeah
 and
  you will understand windows systems better once u get familiar with
  unices
   http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Development_Resources
 
  On Dec 6, 2007 12:43 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   Its nice to have such workshop. lets discuss on organazing it. Guys
 here
   lets do it. Prasanna, Bikal and many others are therewith us. may be
   Nepalinux developers,Ujjwal and Manish could input on kickstart.  Hope
 to
   hear from them soon.
  
  
   Prasanna, Why not we use foss nepal wiki for this purpose. lets add up
   there itself so one doesn't have to search various sites to get
   resouces/materials. I suggest to make a link on wiki.fossnepal.org and
   start wiking with it.
  
   Regards,
   --
   Prabin Gautam ओपन ठिटो
   Registered Linux User #443940
   letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
  
   
  
 
  
 


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[FOSSNepal] Re: reply as fast as possible

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
AFAIK there's no law against encryption algorithms in Nepal... until it's
within international laws... like violating patents and all.. u know

On Dec 6, 2007 10:33 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i had few problem with some question? so please if anyone knows about this
 please reply me as soon as posible..

 What encryption algorithms are used in Nepal(legally)? And where can we
 get products like ZOLL, 3DEs, AES in nepal?

 They are trying to establish VPN between two locations, so if anyone knows
 plz answer as soon as possible.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
haha... nice...

On Dec 6, 2007 11:44 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 some months back Kiran dai reported that even by getting internet
 connection in suse 10.2. he was unable to browse internet with
 firefox.
 hence
 !check

 from my side firefox works!
 regards
 Ujwal

 On 12/6/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Dec 6, 2007 10:47 AM, Ujwal Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Yeah i Got,
   Well Last time i got a bigger failure on getting Internet connection
   in suse 10.2. Then i attempted few months back to get internet
   connection on suse. Finally i Got. Suse 10.2 won't install any of the
   PPPoE softwares. You've to install it yourself. Open yast and select
   install software ( there in Software section ). search pppoe then
   you'll find some pppoe softwares install everything. Then Just
   #su
   #$password
   #pppoe-setup
   all the configuration of internet.
   finally,
   #pppoe-start
   and finished.
   Well Suse is really cool. !check if firefox works ?
  
  !check= not check? oops!!
 
  
   regards
   Ujwal
  
  
  
   On 12/6/07, Surmandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can use rp-pppoe. I am using wlink pppoe connection and till now
 i
   have
no problem in connection. there is a software at wlink d/w pages.
 you
   can
get it from there.
   
On Dec 6, 2007 10:38 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
   
 with cable i dont think you would have problem to connect to
 internet.
   But
 dont know about WLink. I am using netplus cable connxn and it
   connects:
as
 soon as open the browser, the login page of netplus appears and
 just
   login
 and surf the Net.

 The ip is obtained from DHCP of ISP as soon as cable is connected.
 So
 never faced problem  for internet.


 Regards,
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 Registered Linux User #443940
 letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..

 

   
   
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[FOSSNepal] Reiser4 filesystem

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
here's a nice video that'll help to understand the reiser fs...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6866770590245111825q=Hans+Reiser

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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I didn't really mean what u r saying... is it windows or linux problem..?
for linux.. u can use ..
for downloading, u can use wget... u can even log off and it can be running
downloads...
at or cron to schedule tasks... when u want...
look at some documentations... :)
windows has it's own gui schedule thingy...

On Dec 6, 2007 12:55 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:




 On Dec 6, 9:32am, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thanks all of u
  but my RTL??? Network Card is only detected in OpenSuse..
  and i try in suse
  i tried to compile driver in linux mint it showed error in make file
 next thing i wanted to get help was download
 when i start downloading iso's in windows (as i haven't configured in
 linux) when the connection breaks the computer stays idle doing
 nothing i would be sleeping and morning there's been no progress i
 have to reconnect manually (which is very impratical i can't just come
 from my sleep..) isn't there any automated way..
 


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[FOSSNepal] APJ Abdul Kalam in google india's summit

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
check this out... I'm kind of sure it's not technical.. but must be worth
it...
disclaimer: i haven't seen this one... so u can also consider this spam ! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7VSia9AOe4sdig=1

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[FOSSNepal] online learning for class bunkers

2007-12-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Haha, Sorry for the slightly subversive title... I was wondering how many of
us know abt the online tools we can use to learn stuff that might be missed
in class... or you have a rather bad professor who doesn't quite explain all
too nicely... i've been using some links for a while... for all the stuff...
as an assistance to the class lectures and often to learn new things...

MIT open course ware
ocw.mit.edu

essentially all the stuff free to public view from MIT... all the class
notes... videos and all

http://www.lecturefox.com/

collection of such lectures

A collection of lectures
http://freescienceonline.blogspot.com/2006/06/free-computer-science-video-lecture_24.html
This dude has managed to make a real nice collection of lectures and all.


Google code for educators
http://code.google.com/edu/

Nice place with intro to mapreduce for cluster computing... gives some good
concepts on the topic


Also, don't forget that hard copy book... that's the best resource most of
the time

Happy Hacking

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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

2007-12-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver
development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe make
some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux sucks...

On Dec 5, 2007 7:21 AM, bibstha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 +1 tp amda-bara, would be real nice!!

 On Dec 5, 9:07 am, Amit Aryal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  la la basabta dai!!! all the best. farkepachi anda-baara khanu parchha ,
 as
  a treat.
 
  cheers
  amit
 
  On Dec 4, 2007 10:00 PM, Abhishek Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   All the best Basanta Dai!
 
On Dec 4, 2007 1:33 PM, daya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Basanta sir,
good luck and all the best !
:),
 
On Dec 4, 2007 11:51 AM, Rajesh Pandey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 All the best Basanta Dai..
 
 On 12/3/07, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:14:12PM +0545, Jwalanta Shrestha
 wrote:
 
  ..
 
Dear all,
 
The Center for International Cooperation for Computerization
(CICC) is
conducting the third Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop with
School of
 
  ..
 
  Goodluck Basanta! ;) Are you going to blog or something
 regarding
your
 experience? I hope you will. hehe.. :-)
 
  --
  Cheers,
  Bikal.
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  Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. - Rob Pike
 
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Fwd: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin

2007-12-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Great work, but I have a few suggestions:
It is supposed to be an e-bulletin but it still retains the paperlike look
which is largely inefficient use of e portion of it... Also, it could've
been a bit better if it was available on the site and perhaps as rss format
so that we can put in some aggregator of sorts... pdfs can be generated
directly from those nodes(I think u can just pass the design as
stylesheet)... which might make the editing and other processes easier..
perhaps... Nonetheless, great work, good articles..

On Dec 5, 2007 12:22 AM, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its really a good one. keep it up KUOSC team.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Abhishek Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:17 PM
 Subject: [kuosc] KUOSC E-Bulletin
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Dear All,
   It's really very pleasing to announce that KUOSC E-Bulletin,
 December issue has just been published and released. You can obtain the soft
 copy in PDF format from 
 herehttp://kuosc.googlegroups.com/web/december_e-bulletin.pdf
 .

I would like to congratulate and thank Ms. Namita
 Agrawal who coordinated and released this issue. KUOSC always counts upon
 you guys. Let's make IT FOSSible!
 --
 ___

 Abhishek Singh

 Fedora 8 has released!!
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[FOSSNepal] Re: Confused??????????

2007-12-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
i had been using tk-pppoe from roaring penguin
http://roaringpenguin.luky.org/pppoe/tkpppoe/ wlink has the linux version
from their downloads page. You just need to compile and run... i think under
ideal conditions, u can just run ./go or ./go-gui without all the
compiling..

On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, Ujjwol लामिछाने[UNIX] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 how am i going to connect internet form linux
 i am using opensuse 10.2 and linux mint 3
 and wlink's cable
 


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[FOSSNepal] Re: FYI, Asia OSS Master Trainers Workshop

2007-12-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I know a person in Nepal who has taken Kernel driver development
training.(I'm not exactly sure, I'll inform after I have a talk with him)..
maybe a hands on training for a few weeks/days will suffice along with some
pdfs (or maybe even hard copy books (gosh!)). Once you get the idea of the
workings, it probably isn't too hard... also the oreilly book is awesome in
this respect... except if u are too lazy like me to implement them. Maybe
even an extended hackfest among OS geeks can be good after substantial
amount of research.. maybe aimed at controlling a simple piece of
equipment... like a led configuration connected to LPT (or USB.. I still
can't get my head around the USB things). Of course.. this kind of course
will require some good understanding of electronics and OS.. but still
doable.

Anyone ready to make a wiki page? I can put all the resources I think
necessary... or we can discuss here.. like which books to refer and what
kind of project will be better and then culminate that into the final
hackfest of sorts...

On Dec 5, 2007 6:20 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 03:20:05PM -0500, Prasanna Gautam wrote:
  how about developer's workshop? esp kernel development... or driver
  development... so that we can discuss about driver building and maybe
 make
  some ourselves than bitching about how the driver support in linux
 sucks...

 Yes Prasanna is right I think. Developer's workshop dinu lai Nepalinux
 core developers would need to give -some- sort of training or DYI methods so
 that people wishing to improve Nepalinux (and hence add drivers to it) would
 be able to do so  and also be able to give that back to international oss
 community.

 Moreover, for this to happen foss nepal needs programmer who can code in
 kernel (at the least device driver programmer) or at the least an
 experienced C hacker. Having said that, there are free resources on the web
 one can read (ldd 2nd edition found easily on the web if one wants to build
 drivers). The only requisite I believe is good knowledge about C
 programming.

 Not so long ago, I was directed to kernelnewbies.org mailing list by one
 of the Guru in Nepali kernel hacking scene - Mr. Manish Regmi so I think his
 expertise would be really welcomed in initiating such workshop.

 I think Ujwal has already started coding driver for his web camera. He can
 provide helpful hints to newcomers to that arena as well.

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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

2007-12-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
anyone remembers those online hacking challenges ? any links.. i remember
one python challenge that got us mad sometime back though.

On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Start hacking

 http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html

 its for newies

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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

2007-12-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Start hacking
 
  http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html
 
  its for newies
 


 before u read that, read this
 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

oh nice call, that's a darn classic
i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times
 http://catb.org/jargon/html/
and reading these
http://paulgraham.com/articles.html

oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are doing.

Its always good to have good programming books
Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious
security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those...
that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other
hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than
focus on the superficial stuff  no matter how interesting they are... at the
end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system...



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[FOSSNepal] Re: If we can't trust Open Source....

2007-12-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 X-No-Archive:

 
  I am sorry to anyone who have lost their data in the past. We all have.
 And I think we LEARN something from it. Don't we? I think it's time we call
 our data rescue man - Mr. Bipin! :-) Why don't anyone who have problem with
 rescueing data call Bipin? Or even Bipin should start up data rescue company
 that services OSS user's data for free! :-)
 

 we already have it for some years now,

 http://nepcert.org.np/(but not much attension )

 Anouncement: free data rescue for people making visible
 comtributing in FOSS here in Nepal.

how about expanding it... maybe exchanging expertise with fossnepal users...
? (Sorry haven't really followed everything.. sorry if this is little out of
place)
one thing we can all do is work on the established forums themselves and
perhaps help other people too... Maybe I had a problem and I somehow solved
it... it's always nice to take a little time to say how u did it... and
place it somewhere searcheable... maybe the ubuntuforums or even here so
that someone else can find it.


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[FOSSNepal] Re: start hacking

2007-12-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On Dec 3, 2007 3:49 PM, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Dec 3, 2007 3:22 PM, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On Dec 4, 2007 12:21 AM, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Start hacking
  
   http://www.port7alliance.com/txt/hackbg.html
  
   its for newies
  
 
 
  before u read that, read this
  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
 
 oh nice call, that's a darn classic
 i recommend keeping this dictionary at all times
  http://catb.org/jargon/html/
 and reading these
 http://paulgraham.com/articles.html

 oh yeah, these are apart from / after you actually know what you are
 doing.

 Its always good to have good programming books
 Things like data structures and minor scripting mistakes can have serious
 security implications... it just matters on how easily you can spot those...
 that can be gained only by experience or by working with/against other
 hackers. I really think we need to understand more of the core systems than
 focus on the superficial stuff  no matter how interesting they are... at the
 end of the day, hacking is about learning about the system...

 btw... IMO great hackers and beating the averages are must reads by
paul graham



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[FOSSNepal] Re: open source ocr

2007-11-08 Thread Prasanna Gautam
there's one from google... based on the tesseract engine(not sure abt the
spelling though) ocropus... try searching in code.google.com... it's a nice
engine...

On Oct 24, 2007 10:21 PM, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:15:50PM -0400, Ashes wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  Is there any open source ocr program for linux and windows.
 Hi Ashes,
 Try this and see how it goes - http://dwarfurl.com/ded3e

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[FOSSNepal] Re: NepaLinux as a co-winner of the international APC Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007

2007-10-18 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Bump! This is really great to find the efforts of Nepalinux community being
appreciated... Hats Off!

On 10/18/07, Jitendra kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Finally, good work being appreciated.
 Congrats NepaLinux team and FOSS community.

 On 10/18/07, Bikram Shrestha  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Congratulations to NEPALINUX team and entire FOSS Nepal community.. this
  is really the big acheivement.. I wish entire team for greater success in
  the future.. keep up the great work..
 
  Cheers !! and Happy Dashain !!
 
 
  -bikram
 
 
 
 
  On 10/18/07, nepbabu [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:20:28PM +0545, Subir Pradhanang wrote:
   
Hi all,
   
Dear All,
It is with great pleasure that I am sharing you the
   announcement of
 NepaLinux as having been selected as a co-winner of the
   international APC
 Chris Nicol FOSS Prize 2007. I would like to take this opportunity
   to thank
 our well wishers, supporters and the team that has been working
   really hard
 all this time. I look forward to similar enthusiasm, energy and
   support from
 all of you in future as well.
For details about the prize, please kindly visit the link
 http://www.apc.org/english/chrisnicol/
   
Great News! Congratulations!!!
  
   This is a very cool news for all Nepalinux  team and more so for
   open-source. :-)
  
   I think the hard work the team has done so far is starting to show up
   and the APC Chris Nicol is just one instance.
  
   On this cool auspicious moment, I want to congratulate everyone in the
   team including people who have downloaded and used Nepalinux 1/2 and used
   it. :-)
  
   Subir dai, when/where's the celebration party? ;-)
  
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[FOSSNepal] Re: FOSS NEPAL SFD 08 theme

2007-10-08 Thread Prasanna Gautam
That sounds good. We should probably focus on the more grassroot level too.
Big enterprises have big money invested on big softwares already. They will
need a larger support base for any kind of move. I think it should be more
about the general people/entrepreneurs and IMO for the wannabe hackers who
want to play with the system.

On 10/7/07, Ashes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Linux for Everyone - Enterprise or People

 On 10/7/07, Ashay Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Enterpreneurship -- MAybe
 
  On 10/7/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो )  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Dear all,
  
   With one year of time, Lets start Planning for SFD 2008.
  
   I think the theme of Next SFD should be Linux For Enterprise. May be
   some other suited word instead of enterprise.
  
   If we are able to provide FOSS solution to our local enterprises, it
   will be a grand achievement for FOSS Revolution in Nepal.
  
   What the community says
  
   Regards,
   --
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   letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..
  
  
  
 
 
 
 


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[FOSSNepal] Re: Reload this Page Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista

2007-09-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
exactly.. the point of using linux is to be different... what's the worth of
cloning a system that's inferior? OSX's interface rocks but I'd rather do it
with the real OSX.. heck even in a virtual machine would be extremely cool.

Though this does give you some bragging rights.

On 9/16/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  but why would anybody wanna do that??




 On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:15 +0545, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) wrote:

 [image: Reload this Page]http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490398
 *Make Ubuntu Look like OSX and Vista*


 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=69176508d48a05c0eba30d07e395ff93t=490398

 http://ubuntuforums.org/http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=69176508d48a05c0eba30d07e395ff93t=490398


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[FOSSNepal] Re: distros for sfd 2007

2007-08-30 Thread Prasanna Gautam
how about moving a little out of the box by including some BSD flavours or
other *nix flavors too? like PCBSD, Solaris ?

On 8/30/07, dips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Dear all,

 to align with the theme of Linux for Desktop, i think beside
 introducing general public of the different distros and the
 applications, we need to teach them How to install. I had gone
 through one of the pages in FOSS wiki where there was mentioned
 students having problem in installation and people from the team had
 to reach there.

 I and most of us i think have heard from the Linux beginners that they
 find difficulties in installing Linux in their PCs. They aren't sure
 how to format their disks, which partition is to be created, what are
 the requirements for installing, how can they dual boot their very own
 XP and this new Linux. They are very apprehensive and don't often
 install due to fear of loosing their data and XP environment.

 My point is that if we could show them some video tutorials (are they
 available in net?) or the like they will be really motivated to
 installing Linux else they'll think they'll be better off running some
 Live CDs only. If video tutorials aren't possible at least we could
 give them manuals of Dos and Don'ts during installation covering as
 many cases that can arise during installation.

 May be with these they'll feel more comfortable and go home with
 confidence that they can install on their own. Else i think how ever
 we show them, unless they on their own are confident in installing,
 our theme can't be achieved.

 it's just my opinion, how do u guys feel? please comment.

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

2007-08-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices...

On 8/7/07, sonicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 to make a theme song is a must.
 many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
 should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07

2007-08-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 8/7/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 we need to remove paper presentation from adgenda..


thinking again.. i think we need paper presentation (muhahaha I won't be
there to listen to the boring ones.. ok got overboard)  I think if presented
interestingly.. it can be really fruitful..  better not be the boring ones..
more like the david wiley ones..

this time i'm wishin the program to be short n sweet. events like paper
 presentation and foss quiz jus require too much preparation and time. i
 guess we are tryin to make the SFD lil' funky this time, (maybe that's
 why socials is there too..)

 but before the SFD stuffs i think we should go on with the FOSS Nepal
 registration process coz this is important for getting funds n all..

 regards,
 jwalanta



 On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 11:14 +0545, Sagun wrote:
  I think paper presentation should not be removed from the SFD event.
  At least 4-5 papers should be there, so that some academic learning
  opportunity will be there for students and new members of the
  community.
 
  Regarding the formation of the core team. I think we can go by
  nomination.
 
  I would like to volunteer for paper presentation, proposals,
  advertisements and orientation tasks to new colleges. I think its high
  time that we start forming the team right away. So should we start a
  wiki page where the final task force will be listed. and leaders for
  each task is nominated so that each team can start working  and
  preparing for the event.
 
  On 8/6/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Agreed with Prasanna. But meeting on 26th july have discussed
  on removing paper presentation section, (as i have heard/I was
  absent).
 
  The main theme this year should be i guess FOSS for Nepal;
  grass-root to Enterprise. SFD, as i always say, should not be
  for techies but for end-users(Implementation). Its a day to
  mark awareness of FOSS to general Public Worldwide.
 
  For Paper Presentations and techies stuffs lets mark a new
  day, say, FOSS-Nepal Day...hehe ;)
 
  Regarding T-shirt, The obstacle is... our SFD theme which must
  be finalized soon.  I guess this thursday we must call a
  meeting. As on friday, I guess there is some program at
  IOE???
 
  FT squad plz finalize a team. I am also in. I think Shankar
  should lead the squad.
 
 
 
 
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

2007-08-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 8/7/07, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 X-No-Archive:



 On 8/7/07, sonicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  to make a theme song is a must.
 many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
  should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
  and melodies...it should be catchy!!
 

 just one request, dont screw wid the lyrics. focus on that as it would
 talk abt FOSS.
 5 minutes of music playback and just 2 minute if lyrics aint
 happening. get the idea


yeah i agree.. it shud be abt the theme... the words convey it best.. so
don't make it crappy just becoz it rhymes better...
i think too much music suits zepplin or floyd not foss.. or any movement
like this





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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

2007-08-07 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Wh... let's ask some underground band here... it will be freakin
cool...  foss song in speed metal is just so cool


On 8/7/07, Paras pradhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Prasanna,

 Why not !.


 Speed metal rocks !! :)


 Paras.

 On 8/7/07, Prasanna Gautam  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  how abt a cruentus type version... u know foss is abt choices...
 
  On 8/7/07, sonicker  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   to make a theme song is a must.
   many people r saying to make it !!rock!!..i say it
   should be melodies either its a rock or hiphop..it should be nice
   and melodies...it should be catchy!!
  
  
  
  
  

 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: free software song in nepali

2007-08-06 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 8/6/07, acpmasquerade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And again its not good to use songs like माकुरी जालैमा or ऐना हेरेर,
 The songs should be some sorts of modern pop or rock songs and should
 be targeted to some users who are in responsible posts and are
 responsible for everything in this world to be against open source or
 say away from open source.


yeah man.. i support that..  it needs to really reflect the FOSS movement..
rock is best. and no hip-hop...

But why am not I having the repliess

 This gotta be a serious topic...

 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07

2007-08-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion.

 1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification will
 be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline will be
 2 weeks from commence date.


I had contacted  station (kupondole) and they were ready for 360 a piece..
can anyone help getting it cheaper?

Specification???

 2. Teams for SFD decied so far are:

 i. Documentation team

 ii. Documentary team

 iii. Freedom Toaster Squad

 iv. FOSPIT team

 v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and Sponsorship...)

 vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...)

 vii. Socials management Team

  Roles has to be defined.!!

 3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for
 sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad.

FT SQUAD need to pace up..

I want to be in FT squad, maybe I'll join up sometime later to finish up the
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: SFD 07

2007-08-05 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I think it should focus on desktop use as it's on the rise. We really really
really need to have something that developers can benefit from. Like perhaps
intro to tools like Mono(for C# fans who want to switch for development),
eclipse or maybe the performance gains in various tools.. even a good
discussion on java on linux can be good.

How about having some kind of competition or just a more for-fun type
developer activity  if we have paper presentations or sth, I think we
need to have some prize for people who make it more interesting and fun. We
don't really need big names just interesting things to discuss can do.

I think we need to have some kinda suggestions session as to what OSS needs
to get a stronger foothold on the desktop market.. ( i prefer to have it
more on development side, but even socioeconomic issues come ) or as in
Nepal's case, into the enterprise space. Maybe places like CAN can support
some of these discussions, especially with enterprises. We do need some kind
of enterprise support in Nepal so that FOSS rises.

On 8/6/07, Akash Deep Shakya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 oh tshirt deign great, i hae fun few of them, so whts the theme or we can
 make anything related to SFD or FOSS nepal??? anything haev been fixed??

 hey btw i will love to be in documentation team even though OER
 documentation was not that gud

 On 8/5/07, प्रबीण ( ओपन ठिटो ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This thread is created for SFD 07' discussion.
 
  1. T-shirt designing competition will be organized. The specification
  will be finalized through thread discussion in googlegroup. The deadline
  will be 2 weeks from commence date.
 
   Specification???
 
  2. Teams for SFD decied so far are:
 
  i. Documentation team
 
  ii. Documentary team
 
  iii. Freedom Toaster Squad
 
  iv. FOSPIT team
 
  v. Event Management Team (also Invitations and
  Sponsorship...)
 
  vi. Material Team (CDs/ T-shirt/ Flex/ Flares...)
 
  vii. Socials management Team
 
   Roles has to be defined.!!
 
  3. Freedom Toaster has been targeted for SFD 07'. The Proposal for
  sponsorship will be prepared by this week by the FT Squad.
 
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[FOSS Nepal] 100 or so books that shaped the century

2007-08-03 Thread Prasanna Gautam
This might be so much about foss but yeah there are some foss books, but
definitely worth the effort taking a look at.
http://www.amsci.org/amsci/bookshelf/centurylist.html

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Check this out.. surprising it still exists

2007-08-02 Thread Prasanna Gautam
They are losing more people with this! binding your website to a
specific browser is plain stupid.

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 Go to http://www.careermideast.com using Firefox.
 Surprising that this kind of attitude is still happening :)

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[FOSS Nepal] IBM saves $250M by running linux on mainframes

2007-07-31 Thread Prasanna Gautam
*Today IBM will announce it is consolidating nearly 4,000 small computer
servers http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998 in six locations
onto about 30 refrigerator-sized mainframes running Linux, saving $250
million in the process. The 4,000 replaced servers will be recycled by IBM
Global Asset Recovery Services. The six data centers currently take up over
8 million square feet, or the size of nearly 140 football fields.*

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

2007-07-30 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 7/30/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It is true that Google has not done evil until now, but just imagine
 the data it crawls around the web and countless search keywords it
 stores in its database. By crunching those data Google can predict
 what we like and what we dislike making exact prediction about our
 future. Recently, US Justice Dept. has halted the acquisitions made by
 Google of an online ad firm DoubleClick citing its dominance in the
 internet and the case is still pending. And guess what who are the
 suitors? That's right!!! Yahoo! and Microsoft.

I think more or less every company that does search has enough data to do
similar things  at least google hasn't bowed down to government pressure
to open up user information... Further any such practices do come out soon
enough and there will be repercussions for any company... like the
anti-trust case with microsoft... DOJ couldn't even break the company as
they intended to do. Further MS has gained monopoly by clever use of
business tactics, monopolistic practices. Google seems to have done most of
it with genuine footing on good technology. Google acquired doubleclick to
stop MS from acquiring it... this does have an evil side to it because it
gives the people from doubleclick access to the google board. And those guys
are pretty darn evil.
these lawsuits keep happening... one day google tries to pull MS into court
for antitrust case.. other day MS and yahoo do it for advertising.. it's
just democracy and free market... that's how new technologies come... and
die... and lawyers get paid..

On Jul 29, 9:44 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No.
  It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It
 uses
  marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then
 leverages
  that dependency to get their own standards and  stifles the market. I
 don't
  think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in
 the
  public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking
 google
  down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well
  known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the
 variables
  that google uses  are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs
 would've
  been out of job)
   EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the
  internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can
 point
  their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that
 options
  and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company
  immense power that can be abused.
 
  On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
   Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms
   of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate
   arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open
   sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm).
   So , can we call google evil??? last month, EU also had made
   concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search...
 
   On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form
 of
 their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
 Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world.
 Google is
 going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google
 becoming
 next Evil.
 
Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for
   that...
but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they
 have
   much
hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says
 to me
   to
motivate me that M$ is cool is  u can earn a lot of money 
I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at
 home on
   my
machine) not because I want to but because other people just use
 it...
   M$
used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push
   standards...
now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and
 GPL is
   a
virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they
 even
   own
SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating
 system
 
Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways)
 and a
   lot
more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a
 crappy
   IBM
hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they
   survived
by buying

[FOSS Nepal] Re: Comment on Should Nepal adopt FOSS?

2007-07-30 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I wonder why they got the uncensored domain

On 7/30/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Jwalanta Shrestha wrote:
  but seems like the everestUNCENSORED has CENSORED the message, nepbabu's
  message doesn't appear there.. have a look..
  http://www.everestuncensored.org/archives/opinion/000529.html
 
  if they have really deleted this message, this is gross!!!

 It seems the admin shamefully modded the post.

 Cheers.




 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

2007-07-29 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Dude, microsoft is not evil not because it doesn't open source code. No.
It's evil because of it's unfair business practices and FUD tactics. It uses
marketing and sometimes marketing alone to get a software and then leverages
that dependency to get their own standards and  stifles the market. I don't
think it's necessary for any company to let their company secret out in the
public... I don't think doing so will matter so much except taking google
down and the execs there aren't so dumb to give their secrets. Its well
known how google crawls the web. It cannot be patented. All the variables
that google uses  are mostly well known (otherwise all these SEOs would've
been out of job)
 EU will be afraid of any american company gaining dominance on the
internet... I think the main thing for most google users is they can point
their browsers elsewhere easily... whereas M$ users don't have that options
and when the thing that we are talking about is OS, it gives any company
immense power that can be abused.

On 7/29/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well it is true that Microsoft does not like Open Source esp. in terms
 of OS, but Google is said to be secret company in the corporate
 arena(from Wall Street's point of view). G$$gle has also not open
 sourced their core Search algorithm (they use PageRank algorithm).
 So , can we call google evil??? last month, EU also had made
 concerned over G$$gle's dominance in internet search...

 On Jul 28, 8:10 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
   I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
   their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
   Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
   going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
   next Evil.
 
  Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
  hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for
 that...
  but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have
 much
  hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me
 to
  motivate me that M$ is cool is  u can earn a lot of money 
  I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on
 my
  machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it...
 M$
  used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push
 standards...
  now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is
 a
  virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even
 own
  SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system
 
  Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
  background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
  everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
  analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a
 lot
  more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy
 IBM
  hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they
 survived
  by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
  practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac...
 that's
  cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$
 in a
  few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies
 or
  join you-know-who google..
 
  M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux..
 because of
  the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the
 linux
  hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful
 companies,
  SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market
  from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.
 
  PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
  everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
  it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
  that'd be notepad... :P)  or use a greasemonkey script...
 
  On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents
 where he
discusses  the waning power of microsoft...
 
   http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html


 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent

2007-07-29 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 7/29/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 7/29/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Anon E. Muss writes Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool
  that sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a
  'peer-assisted technology' where


 Hahahahahaha 8D... lolz...lolz...

 Microsoft invented such thing which is called peer-assisted
 technology




what a disgrace to the word invention... what sucks is they don't admit
where they learnt the technology/the idea... it's as if they get those
things out of the blue and all us mere Linux using mortals just have to
learn from others

hahaha

Zico
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 whatever you want to believe...

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

2007-07-28 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
 their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
 Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
 going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
 next Evil.


Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for that...
but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much
hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to
motivate me that M$ is cool is  u can earn a lot of money 
I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on my
machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$
used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push standards...
now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a
virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own
SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system

Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot
more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM
hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived
by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's
cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a
few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or
join you-know-who google..

M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux.. because of
the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined the linux
hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful companies,
SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free market
from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.


PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
that'd be notepad... :P)  or use a greasemonkey script...


On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents where he
  discusses  the waning power of microsoft...
 
  http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html


 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Microsoft is dead

2007-07-28 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I am a paranoid person... maybe that's why I use LInux over microsoft..
thinking in terms of a cracker... I think I'd rather put some kinda
homing/listening program or some flaw in my cracked windows...  so that i
can get more viruses or get more account information for use  at least
in linux i can check from where my packages come from.. do a MD5 check on my
iso to check.. or even sha1 check if needed...
If someone uses pirated microsoft product or anything else (non-MS)
pirated... (i mean those just cracked.. hexed... modded) and still bugs
about security... and blames MS for crappy stuff.. blame urself..  use FOSS
stuff... esp  when it comes to OS.. if you cannot even trust the source..
when it comes to pirated stuff...  don't use it..
OS is supposed to have full access to everything... so u are making urself
naked to some evil cracker...

On 7/28/07, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nothing to say about rest of the world, but for Nepal what I think is the
 only ALIVE thing here is piracy, If you use microsoft windows OS variants in
 your computer then think again, is it really microsoft's or pirated copy, ok
 few user may have genuine microsoft, but again look at most of other
 software you have installed (photoshop, norton antivirus, microsoft office
 etc) are they genuine, if you say they are then all I can say is WoW!
 you have made a great contribution against FOSS, so keep off of this mailing
 list, If you think software shouldn't cost that much or shouldn't be
 proprietary then piracy is not the solution, you should choose the
 alternative, which gives you the freedom of choice (owing to fact that you
 don't virtually have to pay for software if you use FOSS till date).

 On 7/28/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 
 
  On 7/28/07, Prajwal Tuladhar  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I don't think Mircosoft is dead. The giant is waking in the form of
   their new Chief Technology Architect Ray Ozzie. Even gates leave
   Micorosft, it will be the dominant player in the tech world. Google is
   going in the same direction as Microsoft once was i.e. Google becoming
   next Evil.
 
 
  Microsoft pretty much started evil after the infamous letter to
  hobbiyist,,,  Microsoft  isn't going to die,, they are too big for that...
  but if all smart people (hackers) go elsewhere, I don't think they have much
  hope unless they attract more developers... Only thing anyone says to me to
  motivate me that M$ is cool is  u can earn a lot of money 
  I have to use windows (albeit sometimes  and almost never at home on
  my machine) not because I want to but because other people just use it... M$
  used to dictate market... now it doesn't  M$ used to push standards...
  now it runs away from it... M$ used to say Linux is communism and GPL is a
  virus... now they are craving for the same market share.. heck they even own
  SCO unix code now and are unixifying their windows operating system
 
  Google has more techies in its head and people from vastly different
  background than M$ ever had.. Google started off with best things in
  everywhere it entered... search engine.. mail... calendar... google
  analytics... video (not really.. but they bought the best anyways) and a lot
  more... M$ started off with MS-DOS which was crappy software on a crappy IBM
  hardware... compared to other things available in market... so they survived
  by buying new technologies and using incompatibilities and anti-trust
  practices to stay afloat... heck, they even stole windows from Mac... that's
  cheating and not good technology AFAIK.. most people (hackers) left M$ in a
  few years after their stock options matured to start off new companies or
  join you-know-who google..
 
  M$ is the chief reason for having such a meteoric rise of Linux..
  because of the WinTel workings.. most people probably might not have joined
  the linux hackers gang if microsoft was all so powerful. There are powerful
  companies, SUN, IBM, RedHat and many basement hackers working to keep a free
  market from the monopolists like M$ or maybe google or anyone else.
 
 
  PS: It's my freakin choice if I want to write M$ instead of whatever
  everyone calls it... so don't bother to comment on it... if u don't like
  it.. use your favorite text editor to do search and replace... (I guess
  that'd be notepad... :P)  or use a greasemonkey script...
 
 
  On Jul 27, 10:30 pm, Prasanna Gautam  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
hehe.. this is an article/essay by Paul Graham.. one of recents
   where he
discusses  the waning power of microsoft...
   
http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 


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[FOSS Nepal] Microsoft Reinvents Bittorrent

2007-07-28 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Anon E. Muss writes Microsoft has a new Secure Content Downloader tool that
sounds an awful lot like a Bittorrent clone. It's described as a
'peer-assisted technology' where '[e]ach client downloads content by
exchanging parts of the file they're interested in with other clients, in
addition to downloading parts from the server.' Right now MSCD is just a
time-limited preview, intended to support downloads of select Microsoft beta
releases (e.g. Visual Studio 2008). If this test goes well, Microsoft will
probably start using MSCD for all their large downloads. How do you feel
about subsidizing Microsoft's bandwidth costs?

Read more of this
storyhttp://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/28/1631205from=rssat
Slashdot.

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[FOSS Nepal] Torvalds explains the scheduler decision

2007-07-28 Thread Prasanna Gautam
After the recent and really public departure of Con Kolivas, it seems Linus
is finally coming out with an explanation... feels bad when kernel hackers
go away... good projects die...
*
There's been a lot of recent
debatehttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/24/1432245tid=106over
why Linus Torvalds chose the new CFS process scheduler written by Ingo
Molnar over the SD process scheduler written by Con Kolivas, ranging from
discussing the quality of the code to favoritism and outright conspiracy
theories. KernelTrap is now reporting Linus Torvalds' official stance as to
why he chose http://kerneltrap.org/node/14008 the code that he did.
'People who think SD was perfect were simply ignoring reality,' Linus is
quoted as saying. He goes on to explain that he selected the Completely Fair
Scheduler because it had a maintainer who has proven himself willing and
able to address problems as they are discovered. In the end, the relevance
to normal Linux users is twofold: one is the question as to whether or not
the Linux development model is working, and the other is the question as to
whether the recently released 2.6.23 kernel will deliver an improved desktop
experience.*

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: release of linux 0.01

2007-07-27 Thread Prasanna Gautam
thanks ujwal for posting this thing... btw... it has info on the historical
linux kernel 0.01 with some photos of linus torvalds and other interesting
documents.

On 7/27/07, Ujwal (RUBBOT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 guys some digg from Prasanna,
 http://kerneltrap.org/node/14002


 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Sourceforge Community Choice Award winners

2007-07-27 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 7/27/07, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 27 July 2007 09:07:29 Prajwal Tuladhar wrote:
  Sourceforge has been running a community-driven awards process over
  the last month, trying to discover the top open source projects.
  Today, the winners were announced. The ones selected say a lot about
  those who frequent Sourceforge. But before I get into that, here are
  the winners:
 
  # Best Project: 7-Zip
  # Best New Project: eMule and Launchy
  # Best Tool or Utility for Developers: TortoiseSVN
  # Best Project for the Enterprise: Firebird
  # Best Project for Gamers: ScummVM
  # Best Project for Multimedia: Audacity
  # Best Project for Communications: phpBB
  # Best User Support: Firebird
  # Best Technical Design: 7-Zip
  # Most Collaborative Project: Azureus
 
 
 http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9750770-7.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547
 -1_3-0-20
 

 Well I'm surprised myself.
 Here's the rest of the article:

 What do these projects tell us about the Sourceforge community?
 * Some of the best open source work happens on Windows. Really. 7-Zip
 and
 Launchy are both Windows projects.


I think since it depends on vote... and most people use windows it happens..
those are really nice and useful projects... dude, 7-zip started off as
linux project ported to windows... launchy is cool.. but hey we linux users
have a better tool... terminal

* Sourceforge developers have a tenuous grip on what enterprise means.
 I've never (ever) seen Firebird in an enterprise deployment. Ever. Ever.
 * They like to, um, share things. Like songs. Movies. Etc. Both
 Azureus
 and eMule are generally used for borrowing others' content. I'm the
 first
 to say that media companies need to figure out new ways to get paid for
 their
 content. But I would have liked to have seen other projects higher on the
 list of top projects.


Again, vote.. and yeah I have to agree... DRM sucks... and people don't want
to buy stuff that doesn't give them freedom... some companies are going that
way.. I think a little better way to approach this is to look down the whole
list of selected projects and make ur own subjective assessment.

* Simplicity is good. Most of these projects perform one small function
 very well. Sourceforge developers may be looking to open source to solve
 niche problems for themselves.


UNIX philosophy: do 1 thing and do it good.. (too lazy to google and find
exact wording)

* And did I mention that Sourceforge users are developers? These
 projects
 tend to skew geeky. But then, that also comes down to the categories
 picked.


right..

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[FOSS Nepal] Happy System Administrator day

2007-07-27 Thread Prasanna Gautam
*Today is the 8th annual System Administrator Appreciation
Dayhttp://www.sysadminday.com/.
It is always the last Friday in July and is the one day that SysAdmins are
supposed to get the respect they deserve to be getting the other 364 days of
the year. Today is the day that we wish everyone would considering the
daunting tasks, small budgets, and ridiculous timelines that many SysAdmins
face all year. Please thank them for everything they do for you and for your
business. If you think you have a great SysAdmin today would be the day to
nominate them for SysAdmin of the Year http://www.sysadminoftheyear.com/.
'The idea for System Administrator Day was inspired by a print ad for a
Hewlett-Packard laser jet printer. The ad showed lines of employees bringing
gifts for the IT guy who made the purchase. System Administrator
Appreciation Day has, over the years, garnered support from many
organizations.*

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[FOSS Nepal] Intel Releases Threading library under GPL 2

2007-07-25 Thread Prasanna Gautam
*WHO finallly




Intel Software Dispatch have announced the availability of the Threading
Building Blocks (TBB) template library under the
GPLhttp://threadingbuildingblocks.org/v2 with the run-time exception
-- so this previously commercial only package
is now open for all the use, whether for open-source projects or commercial
offerings (although they are explicitly encouraging open source use). The
interface is more task-based then thread-based, but with a somewhat
different view of things than, e.g. OpenMP http://www.openmp.org/. From
the Intel release: 'Intel(r) Threading Building Blocks (TBB) offers a rich and
complete approach to expressing parallelism in a C++ program. It is a
library that helps you leverage multi-core processor performance without
having to be a threading expert. Threading Building Blocks is not just a
threads-replacement library. It represents a higher-level, task-based
parallelism that abstracts platform details and threading mechanism for
performance and scalability.'*

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: About the Install Fest on 28th July

2007-07-24 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Thursday is good... if anyone is able... do come on IRC... we can discuss
there too... informally

On 7/24/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sorry again for the typo
 it is as for now, 10:00 AM, and i am sure this time.

 And we want to call upon a meeting for soon, may be Thursday so that we
 can discuss on this and start on SFD too. Hopefully Jwalanta will float a
 message soon

 On 7/24/07, Sagun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i hope its 10 am.
   I would love to be a part of the event but I think Fossians from MPP
  might not be able to attend. We have social event (picnic) scheduled for
  Saturday.
 
  On 7/24/07, rajib shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   oi shishir, are u sure its 10:00 pm or is it just another of ur typo??
  
  
   On 7/24/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
Guys we are still planning for the install fest with Brihaspati
Vidyasadan, so lets get up to speed and figure out how to do it. So lets
meet up as soon as possible may be tomorow and finalize on our plans 
for the
saturday.
   
And anyone interested, in Install Fest please note that it is to
happen on Saturday 28th July, Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Naxal,
   
i.e., as for now the plan is as follows
   
Date: 28th July, 2007
Time: 10:00 PM
  
  
  
   Venue: Computer Lab, Brihaspati Vidyasadan, Naxal
   
--
Shishir Jha
EPC 1970,GPO 8975,
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  --
  Warm Regards,
  Sagun Dhakhwa
 
  Address at Work:
  Sambad Project,
  Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya
  Patan Dhoka, Lalitpur, Nepal
 
 
  homepage: www.outlines-rnd.com/sagun
  =
  ==INITIATING OPEN COURSE WARE ( www.sixyadaan.org ) in NEPAL==
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: New OS: cool

2007-07-24 Thread Prasanna Gautam
I'm super impressed by what they have come up in few months (when i was
lazing out) some awesome stuff there just check it out.. I think a lot
can be learned from there

On 7/23/07, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://eyeos.info/

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Do you think: Too Many Linux Distros Make For Open Source Mess?

2007-07-21 Thread Prasanna Gautam
FreeBSD is better and faster...

On 7/21/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  On Saturday 21 July 2007 11:19, Prasanna Gautam wrote:
  Yeah true... but seems linux is catching up wa faster in that
 aspect...
  come on, windows is still the same in like 5 years but linux has had
 some
  dramatic lift up... makeover in terms of gui and making things easy...

 Power of open source. :)

  I agree. Just give Linux time to evolve. I'm sure sooner or later it
 will be
  an even greater OS.

 It'll. There are gazillions of people working on making it faster, more
 secure and most importantly user friendly everyday. I am pretty sure
 I'll be able to witness that within my lifetime. ;)

  Diversity is good.

 Diversity is only good if the organisation/community is strong and have
 firm user/codebase. I've read about numerous open source projects gone
 awry/fork because there is absolutely no funding for programmers to sit
 home and work on the code.  Let alone getting a job fully devoted to
 open source projects. Big fishes like IBM, HP, Redhat insist on making
 Open source the defacto standard but they still require ROA because at
 the end of the day it's a business.

 If you look at where Ubuntu makes money, it's through charity,
 professional enterprise support. They do not make money through giving
 CDs/DVDs to users or through IRC support or through their forums. These
 open source hobos are the heroes of the revolution and I salute them
 for what they are doing. These projects have realised that making freely
 available source is -the- way of the future. Look at Java itself as
 well. There are numerous projects where programmers work for the sheer
 love of programming and freedom than for getting money. Although getting
 funding wouldn't hurt. ;)
 The way in which these programmers work is unique and their tool are
 unique as well. For e.g., look at how long it'll take for windows to
 come up with better version of their stacking smashing prevention in
 their VC++ (similar to pax), valgrind and metasploit framework, git,
 moimoin, mailman etc These tools are all available for free (both
 clause 12). Look at KDE,Gnome,Fluxbox, XFCE or even plain X. They are
 so much advanced than their counterpart Windows.

 Look at virtualization softwares available for Linux (Vmware, dosbox,
 Qemu, Xen) and compare to Windows (Microsoft Virtual Server [buggy as
 hell]). Again most of them available for free.

 Lastly, the kernel itself. Even though I wouldn't say Linux kernel is
 bug free and insanity, it itself is so much faster than windows. Try
 running for e.g., Windows on 128mb ram with say 533Mhz clock speed. This
 is impossible! Now try the same with say Linux kernel (plain vanilla of
 course) and X on top of it. It'll run as hell smooth!

 The cards have changed and if Microsoft's playing dumb, I bet it'll be
 bankrupt in few years time (Make that within next 5-10 years). Power
 lies with users not big corporations.

 Anyway getting long now. So I stop.

 Just my .02
 Cheers.


 


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[FOSS Nepal] New Desktop Environment build on firefox

2007-07-21 Thread Prasanna Gautam
*

Pyro is a new kind of desktop environment for Linux built on Mozilla
Firefox. Its goal is to enable true integration between the Web and modern
desktop computing.

This looks like an interesting marriage of the web and the desktop. In
Pyrohttp://pyrodesktop.org/,
Web apps run in windows on the desktop, right alongside desktop apps
(through compositing). Features expected in a desktop environment, like
task/window selection and an Expose-like function, are written in
Javascript.*

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: OpenMOSIX shutting down

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
thanks... yeah.. my first experience in hearing abt cluster was via
OpenMosix... haven't tried... maybe in some years... I think the nepali
government should really think about having such super computing
frameworks... I mean let college students make it... Ankur dai... didn't you
make a beowulf cluster for your final year project? Any special stuff to
share... ?
yeah except the bottleneck on 10Mbps ethernet switch!!

On 7/18/07, Bipin Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 7/18/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's sad to see such a great product shutting down!!! I hope it resumes
 and
  we can have some beowulfs here in Nepal too...
 

 ooo damn!  :(

 Try beowulf in college lab. Seriously Qmue will help you get the job
 done.

 Archiveres of  http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf  is a
 great place to start learning. I've been intrested  in High
 preformance servers since umm... about 2 years now so if you wanna
 talk feel free to call! :)

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: How do the Language makers look like?

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
yeah... most of the geeks catch up on their social life later on
although there are exceptions.. I still remember Guido Van Rossum's
statement at google techtalks... it was sth like this I made python because
 and also because I had no life.. trust me, you need to have that to do
something on technology,  so  IMHO if you find yourself caring too much
about looks and still want to be a great technologist..  not sure  if you
are focused enough. Most of these guys pretty much had no life by general
layman standpoint... but they are heroes by our standards... Being alpha
geek does have its price... hmm... maybe since most of the core language
stuffs were developed in the 70s, and having beard and growing hair (grow
your hair for peace) was quite fashionable too... maybe a lot of them have
beard and a little long hair...  also... geeks are lazy in these kinds of
things... so it's not unlikely that they were too bored to shave...

On 7/20/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 7/19/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  hehehehehe
  Zico, I know how you look, don't cut your beard and you'll be fine!


 Hahahahaha. haha... 8-D

 :-)
 
  Btw, where's your IRC gear these days ? :-P


 Bro, sometimes i entered into #foss-nepal but didn`t find anyone... when
 do you usually enter there?


I am mostly online from 8:30 PM to 8:30 AM...(+30mins i guess for
bangladeshi time...)  and almost whole day on saturday 

Best,
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[FOSS Nepal] Re: How do the Language makers look like?

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
oops.. sorry for answering for a question asked to nepbabu... it was because
you were commenting noone was online.. i have some time based
restrictions..  maybe i'll be more on irc after i get a 24 hr connection..
:D

On 7/20/07, Prasanna Gautam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yeah... most of the geeks catch up on their social life later on
 although there are exceptions.. I still remember Guido Van Rossum's
 statement at google techtalks... it was sth like this I made python because
  and also because I had no life.. trust me, you need to have that to do
 something on technology,  so  IMHO if you find yourself caring too much
 about looks and still want to be a great technologist..  not sure  if you
 are focused enough. Most of these guys pretty much had no life by general
 layman standpoint... but they are heroes by our standards... Being alpha
 geek does have its price... hmm... maybe since most of the core language
 stuffs were developed in the 70s, and having beard and growing hair (grow
 your hair for peace) was quite fashionable too... maybe a lot of them have
 beard and a little long hair...  also... geeks are lazy in these kinds of
 things... so it's not unlikely that they were too bored to shave...

 On 7/20/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  On 7/19/07, nepbabu.cx  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hehehehehe
   Zico, I know how you look, don't cut your beard and you'll be fine!
 
 
  Hahahahaha. haha... 8-D
 
  :-)
  
   Btw, where's your IRC gear these days ? :-P
 
 
  Bro, sometimes i entered into #foss-nepal but didn`t find anyone... when
  do you usually enter there?
 

 I am mostly online from 8:30 PM to 8:30 AM...(+30mins i guess for
 bangladeshi time...)  and almost whole day on saturday 

 Best,
  Zico
 
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[FOSS Nepal] for fun: cartoon

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/115.gif

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: install-fest on 28th july saturday

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Hey, Let's make a list of all the volunteers and maybe the number of stuffs
they can bring... like

1. Prasanna Gautam can bring CDs, DVDs (upto 10 each), a camera to take
photos..  can contribute by blogging...


what distros are we planning to use?

On 7/20/07, Shishir Jha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 28th July is next Saturday guys, as far as customizing is concerned lets
 first go and visit the lab and find out what all needs to be done.

 On 7/20/07, Jwalanta Shrestha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i think there r 2 or 3 different kinds of computer.. yup customizing the
  kernel would be a gr8 idea.. but why dont we some of us go n visit the lab,
  gather the configurations??
 
  n imho, we definitely have to make our custom distro, coz we also have
  to install wine and dos emulators which doesn't come by default..
 
  n about the date, i dont think we can postpone it. they r havin exam
  now, perhaps will end today n there's gonna be few days off. so next
  saturday will be the perfect date coz we also have 2 make few preparations
  at the school..
 
  regards,
  jwalanta
 
 
  On 7/20/07, Ankur Sharma  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Are all computer same, if yes we can compile a kernel specific for
   them, also once installed dd copying will speed up the install-fest. And 
   at
   last if possible lets customize ubuntu a bit using tools like UCK (
   http://uck.sourceforge.net/ )
  
  
 
 
 
 


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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Do you think: Too Many Linux Distros Make For Open Source Mess?

2007-07-20 Thread Prasanna Gautam
It's better than getting stuck to 1 windows for life... :D most people
develop a bit of loyality to a specific distro or distro group anyways...
like fedora, debian, gentoo... etc... so having more options isn't bad at
all. Anyways, it's what freedom stands for right? You and I can really make
our own distros

On 7/21/07, nepbabu.cx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Shankar,

 Shankar Pokharel wrote:
 
 http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/07/too_many_linux.html

 300+ distros ;)
 Does that count Nepuntey ?
 hahaha

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[FOSS Nepal] Linus hasn't used Debian.... strange

2007-07-18 Thread Prasanna Gautam
In an interview, linus torvalds says, he hasn't used debain distro(coz they
are harder re)
http://www.oneopensource.it/interview-linus-torvalds/

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Linux as multimedia center

2007-07-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
hmmm... linux is the only OS I use at home.. and it does every multimedia
thing 

On 7/16/07, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 how many of you use linux as a multimedia center
 i could find completer GUI embedded version rpm


 


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[FOSS Nepal] Open Source alternative to Microsoft Surface

2007-07-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Yeah finally we have open source alternative to Microsoft Surface. Wish I
could try compiz fusion on it (ooo, with water effect)

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/touch-me/linux-mpx-multi+touch-table-may-become-free-diy-microsoft-surface-one-day-278613.php

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[FOSS Nepal] Re: Linux as multimedia center

2007-07-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
On 7/17/07, Zico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 7/16/07, Ankur Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I use TV time for my USB tv card, and use amarok for music and VLC for
  DVD and videos, If anyone want nice and simple gui for multimedia I suggest
  to use elisa ( http://elisa.fluendo.com/


 Okk... then what will you use for accessing the GSM cell phone Siemens
 CX75?
 And obviously what will you use for Canon ZR80 DV Camcorder?


Haha... send me the camcorder and the phone... i think i can fix it in a
year or so ! hehehehehe

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[FOSS Nepal] Google Code for Educators

2007-07-16 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Here are some good information that could be really helpful for people
learning new technologies... Most of it relates to the google talks... I
believe they must be adding some things... liked the ajax portion..
security looks good too...
http://code.google.com/edu/

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[FOSS Nepal] Japan becomes the first Asian country to adopt open standards... Nepal to follow!..

2007-07-15 Thread Prasanna Gautam
Here's the News!
http://www.odfalliance.org/press/Release20070710.pdf

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