[Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Karl Lattimer wrote: yeah, and multicast to all of your rooms, imagine the implications of a 'tuner box' with like 5 tuner cards in it, freevo could record from 5 channels AND timeshift all five on different freevo boxes on screen, because vlc allows you to have as many clients as your bandwidth limitations provide. Yes, it all sounds nice. But I failed to get vlc running. In fact (if it is a good design), the client does the time shifting, not the server. So vlc as tv player is what you want. But let me tell you what I have in mind: one recordserver, many recorders on different machines (that is working right now). If you want to watch tv, you contact the recordserver (since there can only be one app knowing what should be on what tv vard). The recordserver records to multicast if you like, or (as we do it know) in a directory with a set of files. Most of it is already working in cvs. So why not vlc? First of all, I couldn't get it running. Second: every new player (vlc, gstreamer, whatever) takes time to integrate into Freevo. I don't have that time. So _I_ will only integrate two programs: mplayer and xine. But this two will be integrated with freevo having _full_ control over the stream and freevo drawing on top of the video. So this is more important to me than supporting every player. But if someone whats to help, I would accept vlc patches. Or how about, a bunch of freevo boxes which share channels each one will only ever stream a different channel, the boxes all communicate with each other so if one freevo is already providing a channel there isn't any need to start streaming it a second time, now if one of the boxes in the cluster is missing a tv tuner, that is ok, because it can request a stream from one of the others that does. If someone is watching tv on one, and an item in their recording schedule is about to start, it could utilise a tuner in a remote box also. It could also be possible to share recording schedule across all of the systems in the cluster, at that point it would probably be a good idea to set up NFS or a cluster file system to efficiently share storage requirements and ensure access to each of the freevo boxes. If one system gets nominated for the first item in the recording schedule, then the next available box can pick up the next one, and so on. The advantages of using a client/ server based TV model are pretty much endless. Yes, and we are using it in Freevo cvs. In fact, there is a module kaa.record in cvs that can record to an output stream. Currently only dvb input and file output, but that can be enhanced. All a recorder needs to do is to add a mbus interface so the recordserver can control it. vlc has no such bindings, but someone could write it. Same for vdr. But (again) I don't have time for it. I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html Dischi -- This signature is temporarily under construction pgpnas6noLVDg.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Chris Ellis wrote: exactly, it might also save the developers a lot of works as they don't need to write time shifting stuff But we still need to integrate it into the recordserver. Dischi -- Communism is man's exploitation of man. Capitalism is just the opposite. pgpNNK4clJCsZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Karl Lattimer wrote: 1) Wouldn't it be cool if I could watch TV on my mac through WiFi Sure and Freevo 2.0 will be able to do that. 2) WOW, if I'm streaming network video I can pause/rewind it just like web radio That is more a client feature. If you use xine you can also do that, with mplayer you can't. 3) OMFGG, if freevo had a TV player interface to a vlc streaming server running then I could pause/rewind TV in freevo Yes, and we already have a patch for mplayer to support chunk file playing and we will put that in xine, too. I think the there are the following requirements, * A VLC (running as a client) plugin for TV input * A remote interface so the play/pause/rewind/fast forward buttons work on tv Arg. The client is only used for watching and you send play/pause over the network. I hope they are using RTSP. Or is it your idea. If so: don't! Timeshifting should be handled in the client, not the streaming server. * A method of changing channels ?! v4lctl/lirc-send/network somehow for situations where the TV receiver is in another machine or viewer is remote via network For me there is no difference between a local recorder and a remote one. It would probably be best to have a tcp server app for receiving the channel change commands and then acting on them, my reasoning for this is when you have a streaming video server there is no sense in closing off the channel change function to the network. No, that's a bad hack. Use RTSP for that or control the recorder over mbus. Dischi -- What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad. pgpU23Ls82hBT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html YE GODS MAN! I already do Java/Perl/PHP at work 5 days a week, now you want me to learn another language... Erm OK, when i get the time ;) K, --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Arg. The client is only used for watching and you send play/pause over the network. I hope they are using RTSP. Or is it your idea. If so: don't! Timeshifting should be handled in the client, not the streaming server. I didn't mean send the play/pause over the network, I understand that this is done client side. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Re: gst-python lug radio
Karl Lattimer wrote: One big advantage of using gst-python over xine/mplayer is that there is no need for an application wrapper to play media, as there are already python bindings to gstreamer. That is no bug, it's a feature. If the mplayer dies, freevo is still alive. If an integrated gst dies (e.g. memeory leak), Freevo dies, too. And for development: a bug in gst can corrupt my python memory and I will search a bug that is not mine. So no integration into the Freevo process. Even the kaa.xine Tack is building will be called as external app. Another advantage would be easier support of freevo, breaking any playback problems down to a single common denominator. Yet another advantage is that gstreamer has financial backing on a fairly large scale. One step at the time. As Tack wrote: we are creating xine bindings right now and we still support mplayer. As for gst: do they support vidix for framebuffer or mgavid? I can't find a complete list on the side. Without that feature, gst is useless for me and I won't make anything a core player when I can't use it. Dischi -- Stress is when You wake up screaming and then realize You haven't slept at all pgptMdnw1B9pU.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Freevo-users] Re: gst-python lug radio
Karl Lattimer wrote: I spotted that too, but esentially gstreamer is a pipeline framework which can take input as a file/uri/device pipe it through conversion for screen/file/device/uri output with any number of plugable elements in between which can manipulate the stream. Bloody clever imho! Nothing new. On the whole its looking like gstreamer is going to be _the_ linux media framework replacing all of the various players over time, kind of like a direct show equivalent. I won't say that. Xine has a similar api and even ig gstreamer has the best internal design: you need applications for a good lib and xine is winning this race right now. Dischi -- Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds pgpiurCVOwJkP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Karl Lattimer wrote: I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html YE GODS MAN! I already do Java/Perl/PHP at work 5 days a week, now you want me to learn another language... Erm OK, when i get the time ;) If you know Java and Perl, you learn Python in 2 hours. Dischi -- One advantage of talking to yourself is that you know at least somebody's listening. -- Franklin P. Jones pgpPzXzJoeheh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Freevo-users] Re: vlc timeshifting
Dirk Meyer wrote: Karl Lattimer wrote: I just wish I knew python and could code this stuff ;S http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html YE GODS MAN! I already do Java/Perl/PHP at work 5 days a week, now you want me to learn another language... Erm OK, when i get the time ;) If you know Java and Perl, you learn Python in 2 hours. Dischi Dischi is correct in this statement. Very correct. -- Jacob Briggs Systems Engineer Core Technology Ph: +64 (04) 499 1102 -- Named after its country of origin 'England', English is a little known dialect used by up to 1.5 billion non-Americans worldwide. Some interesting but obviously incorrect features of the language include: - queues of people - wonderful coloUrs - the useful metal aluminIum - the exotic herbs (h-urbs), basil (ba-zil) and oregano (o-re-gaa-no) - specialiSed books called 'dictionaries' that tell you how to spell words correctly Many people using this bizarre gutter speak also subscribe to the pagan belief that water freezes at 0 degrees and that distances should be measured in the forbidden mathematical system of base-10... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Dual head and Freevo
Hi,
I use Dual Head and freevo and I get the following errors. Please let
me know if this is fixable or purely cosmetic.
I have Debian Sid and installed Freevo from the apt source.
I also can't move the mouse between screens when I toogle freevo to Full
Screen mode. The mouse will stay in one single window with the Freevo Menu.
alejandro:~# freevo
Error: TV_RECORD_DIR not set
Please set TV_RECORD_DIR to the directory, where recordings should be stored
or remove the tv plugin. Autoset variable to /root.
Error: VIDEO_SHOW_DATA_DIR not found
ROM_DRIVES: Auto-detected and added ('/media/cdrom0', '/dev/hdc', 'CD-1')
Error: can't find /tmp/TV.xml
Use xmltv to create this file or when you don't want to use the tv
module at all, add TV_CHANNELS = [] and plugin.remove('tv') to your
local_conf.py. TVguide is deactivated now.
Please run 'freevo cache'
WARNING: /etc/freevo/lircrc not found!
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/freevo/plugins/rom_drives.py,
line 341, in move_tray
s = ioctl(fd, CDROMCLOSETRAY)
IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error
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[Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- Jacob Briggs Systems Engineer Core Technology Ph: +64 (04) 499 1102 -- Named after its country of origin 'England', English is a little known dialect used by up to 1.5 billion non-Americans worldwide. Some interesting but obviously incorrect features of the language include: - queues of people - wonderful coloUrs - the useful metal aluminIum - the exotic herbs (h-urbs), basil (ba-zil) and oregano (o-re-gaa-no) - specialiSed books called 'dictionaries' that tell you how to spell words correctly Many people using this bizarre gutter speak also subscribe to the pagan belief that water freezes at 0 degrees and that distances should be measured in the forbidden mathematical system of base-10... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. You do not need to exit freevo. Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it off to watch another movie now, would it ? :) Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- The day Microsoft make something that doesnt suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use supermount? Because that would be handy :) You do not need to exit freevo. Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I have attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt work as I expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to eject. I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up initially you see. Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it off to watch another movie now, would it ? :) Haha true :) Jake Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- Jacob Briggs Systems Engineer Core Technology Ph: +64 (04) 499 1102 -- Named after its country of origin 'England', English is a little known dialect used by up to 1.5 billion non-Americans worldwide. Some interesting but obviously incorrect features of the language include: - queues of people - wonderful coloUrs - the useful metal aluminIum - the exotic herbs (h-urbs), basil (ba-zil) and oregano (o-re-gaa-no) - specialiSed books called 'dictionaries' that tell you how to spell words correctly Many people using this bizarre gutter speak also subscribe to the pagan belief that water freezes at 0 degrees and that distances should be measured in the forbidden mathematical system of base-10... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you dont need to mount a dvd to play it. eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote, or . on your keyboard. I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes. Travis. WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use supermount? Because that would be handy :) You do not need to exit freevo. Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I have attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt work as I expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to eject. I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up initially you see. Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it off to watch another movie now, would it ? :) Haha true :) Jake Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- The day Microsoft make something that doesnt suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] changing a dvd while running freevo
WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you dont need to mount a dvd to play it. o. I get it now. eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote, or . on your keyboard. Thats my mission tonight 8) I am sure it will be easy. I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes. Coolies. Thanks Jake Travis. WiSHiE wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote: you press eject on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD out, and put a new one in. So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use supermount? Because that would be handy :) You do not need to exit freevo. Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I have attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt work as I expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to eject. I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up initially you see. Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it off to watch another movie now, would it ? :) Haha true :) Jake Hi all How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I just watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to exit freevo, umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then run freevo again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically (well, apart from the 'insert a new one' part :) ). I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night, but then I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when using supermount ? Jake -- Jacob Briggs Systems Engineer Core Technology Ph: +64 (04) 499 1102 -- Named after its country of origin 'England', English is a little known dialect used by up to 1.5 billion non-Americans worldwide. Some interesting but obviously incorrect features of the language include: - queues of people - wonderful coloUrs - the useful metal aluminIum - the exotic herbs (h-urbs), basil (ba-zil) and oregano (o-re-gaa-no) - specialiSed books called 'dictionaries' that tell you how to spell words correctly Many people using this bizarre gutter speak also subscribe to the pagan belief that water freezes at 0 degrees and that distances should be measured in the forbidden mathematical system of base-10... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] SLACKWARE 10.1 packages
Hey list- Announcing the release of Freevo packages for Slackware 10.1. The meta installerpkg is available at: http://tgz.eng.ua.edu/slackware-10.1/freevo-meta-0.1-noarch-ft1.tgz Just install the meta package and it takes care of downloading and installign the rest of the software. Evan --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
