Applecare - impressed and not impressed

2004-09-02 Thread Timothy Luoma
As I think I've shared, I started having problems with my hard drive a 
few weeks ago (about 2 I think).

Errors appeared in the system log about an UNDEFINED problem in disk0s3 
that coincided with the system lockups that I was having.

TechTools reported Error -4 with the disk... no errors for RAM or 
anything else.

'cp' and 'ditto' processes also had errors with input/output.
So I called up Applecare, they set up a return.  I packaged it all up 
and included the TechTools report as well as several files that were 
corrupted all located in a folder called CorruptedItems -- a few of 
which came from iTunes, which would explain why it kept locking up 
because I had my iPod plugged in at the time which launched iTunes.

I went through the process of backing up my files and called DHL and 
the driver came around 4:30 on Monday afternoon.

The package was returned to me early Wednesday afternoon.  That's less 
than two full days that the machine was gone, repaired, and returned.  
That's the impressive part.

Here's the unimpressive part.  The Powerbook came back with a note 
saying We diagnosed the problem as 3rd party hardware [a 512mb RAM 
chip from Crucial.com which I've had since early June].  Your iBook 
passed all tests after removing this 3rd party hardware.

Several times this form letter refers to my 'iBook' (which was really a 
Powerbook).

 From all appearances, they did replace the hard drive (it left with 
10.3.5 and came back with 10.3.4, with just the bare software installed 
-- so it was either replaced or reformatted), and the system appears to 
be working fine.

I think placing the blame on the RAM chip sounds like a bunch of hooey 
to me.  The RAM has been in there for months and I've never had a 
problem with Crucial RAM before.  I'll leave it out for a couple days 
and see if I have any problems when I put it back in, but first I want 
to fill the drive back up again first and see if we get errors again.

Anyway, the speed was great, but I'm skeptical about the diagnosis, and 
really hope they replaced the drive.

TjL
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Problems with a Lombard keyboard

2004-09-02 Thread COCCORP
Greetings,

My Lombard keyboard is acting up; some keys work, some do not. The non-working keys 
are:

-delete, tab, the whole qwerty row except for [ ,
-the whole bottom row, 
-k gives me kl and l gives me kl, and
-the \ acts as return, (return is OK).

Does this sound like like a common problem, a fixable problem, or a replacement 
solution?

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA

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Re: Applecare - impressed and not impressed

2004-09-02 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Thu, Sep 2, 2004 at 2:06 am -0400, Timothy Luoma wrote:

Here's the unimpressive part.  The Powerbook came back with a note 
saying We diagnosed the problem as 3rd party hardware [a 512mb RAM 
chip from Crucial.com which I've had since early June].  Your iBook 
passed all tests after removing this 3rd party hardware.

[snip]

I think placing the blame on the RAM chip sounds like a bunch of hooey 
to me.  The RAM has been in there for months and I've never had a 
problem with Crucial RAM before.  I'll leave it out for a couple days 
and see if I have any problems when I put it back in, but first I want 
to fill the drive back up again first and see if we get errors again.

I had a similar experience with Applecare (in the UK). The Powerbook was
returned with my 512mb chip taped to the outside, labelled 'suspect 3rd-
party memory'. Apple eventually offered the explanation that after
replacing the logic board, the pb was crashing at startup with the RAM in
place.

I sent it back to them, with a note inside explaining politely that the
module had been in place for 2.5 years, through several system upgrades
and a firmware upgrade, and that although I realised that RAM can go bad
at any time, I thought it very unlikely that the RAM was the problem.

The machine came back with the RAM reinstalled, working perfectly.

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Re: Safari will not auto-activate

2004-09-02 Thread invicta
On 1 Sep 2004, at 21:30, G-Books wrote:
Did you make sure that Safari 1.2 is still the default browser and 
there are
no other copy of it somewhere else on your disk?

If you checked, then there might be a problem with the launch services 
cache
(which, *I think*, is also called locate) file. You might want to 
use a
tool like the free OnyX to clean all the caches.

-Laurent.
Laurent followed your advice but no improvement. No duplicate on the HD 
and cleaning caches with OnyX did not help either. Only difference is 
that now a window appears saying : Mail cannot open  No associated 
application could be found.

Anything else to try ?
Andre.
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Re: ibook SE

2004-09-02 Thread Mikael Byström
larry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

You are correct, there were no combo drives available so I should have  
put dvd/cd drive.

Well, you're not correct these are unavailable, look here: http://
wegenermedia.com/ibookcdrwhome.htm

However, if a superdrive is worth the cost is up to the potential buyer.
I'd go for the DIY CD-RW solution unless I could make sure the video
cards built-in support for MPEG-2 decoding was supported by OS X and if I
could do this I'd rather choose the Combo solution as I feel the G3 is
too weak for burning DVD movies. For data backup, DVD may very well be
worth both the cost and using the Superdrive solution. Data can be very
expensive to loose.

As far as I can tell we on this list have yet to verify if the clamshell
iBook video cards built-in support for MPEG-2 decoding is supported by OS
X. Noone knows for sure?



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AppleCare question

2004-09-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin
Now that I've got a new PowerBook, I'm thinking later to get AppleCare. When
I got my previous PowerBooks, close to 2 years ago, it still had over a year
of AppleCare remaining because the original buyer was smart to buy it just a
little bit before its first year warranty expired.

Now, I was planning to do the same but a co-worker told me that it doesn't
work that way, that now, when you buy it, it starts from the original
purchase date. In other words, you can't have a 4 year protection by waiting
at the end of your first year warranty to buy AppleCare. I've checked the
Apple web site but didn't find anything that would prove one or the other.

So, does anybody know how AppleCare really work?

Thanks!

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Re: Safari will not auto-activate

2004-09-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 02/09/04 05:54, invicta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 1 Sep 2004, at 21:30, G-Books wrote:
 
 
 Did you make sure that Safari 1.2 is still the default browser and
 there are
 no other copy of it somewhere else on your disk?
 
 If you checked, then there might be a problem with the launch services
 cache
 (which, *I think*, is also called locate) file. You might want to
 use a
 tool like the free OnyX to clean all the caches.
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Laurent followed your advice but no improvement. No duplicate on the HD
 and cleaning caches with OnyX did not help either. Only difference is
 that now a window appears saying : Mail cannot open  No associated
 application could be found.
 
 Anything else to try ?
 
 Andre.
 

Hmmm, the only way around this I see, unless someone has a better idea,
would be to reinstall the system, after you back up your data. Sorry.

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Re: AppleCare question

2004-09-02 Thread Gisela Drayton
Apple Care is a two-year extension of your original warranty and ends 
three years from  the date of purchase of your PB, i.e. if you bought 
your PB today, 9/2/04 it would end 9/2/07. Apple Care is a two years 
extension, not three years from whenever you buy it.

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So, does anybody know how AppleCare really work?
Thanks!
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Re: Safari will not auto-activate

2004-09-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 02/09/04 05:54, invicta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 1 Sep 2004, at 21:30, G-Books wrote:
 
 
 Did you make sure that Safari 1.2 is still the default browser and
 there are
 no other copy of it somewhere else on your disk?
 
 If you checked, then there might be a problem with the launch services
 cache
 (which, *I think*, is also called locate) file. You might want to
 use a
 tool like the free OnyX to clean all the caches.
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Laurent followed your advice but no improvement. No duplicate on the HD
 and cleaning caches with OnyX did not help either. Only difference is
 that now a window appears saying : Mail cannot open  No associated
 application could be found.
 
 Anything else to try ?

Before re-installing, can you create a new account on your Mac and try when
logged into that account?

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Re: AppleCare question

2004-09-02 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:06 AM, Gisela Drayton wrote:
Apple Care is a two-year extension of your original warranty and ends 
three years from  the date of purchase of your PB, i.e. if you bought 
your PB today, 9/2/04 it would end 9/2/07. Apple Care is a two years 
extension, not three years from whenever you buy it.
Agreed.  I think they are trying to make this more clear in this 
graphic:

http://www.apple.com/r/store/applecare/applecarecoverage11152002.gif
that you see if you click on the Powerbook link from this page
http://www.apple.com/support/products/

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Re: Applecare - impressed and not impressed

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Ethen
If you send any computer back to Apple for any work, it should go back just
as you got it RAM wise to avoid that issue with them.

Tom
 
 I think placing the blame on the RAM chip sounds like a bunch of hooey
 to me.  The RAM has been in there for months and I've never had a
 problem with Crucial RAM before.  I'll leave it out for a couple days
 and see if I have any problems when I put it back in, but first I want
 to fill the drive back up again first and see if we get errors again.
 
 Anyway, the speed was great, but I'm skeptical about the diagnosis, and
 really hope they replaced the drive.
 
 TjL
 


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extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....

2004-09-02 Thread Erik Ness
Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few 
months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions 
for a decent, reasonable source?

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Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....

2004-09-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 02/09/04 11:16, Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few
 months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions
 for a decent, reasonable source?

I think the prices went up when Apple discontinued them...

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Re: Applecare - impressed and not impressed

2004-09-02 Thread Timothy Luoma


.. Original Message ...
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:05:43 -0500 Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
If you send any computer back to Apple for any work, it should go back just
as you got it RAM wise to avoid that issue with them.



yeah I actually forgot that it was in there, otherwise I would have.



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Re: AppleCare question

2004-09-02 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 9/2/04 5:51 AM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew
into the Cybertrough:

 Now that I've got a new PowerBook, I'm thinking later to get AppleCare. When
 I got my previous PowerBooks, close to 2 years ago, it still had over a year
 of AppleCare remaining because the original buyer was smart to buy it just a
 little bit before its first year warranty expired.
 
 Now, I was planning to do the same but a co-worker told me that it doesn't
 work that way, that now, when you buy it, it starts from the original
 purchase date.

Your co-worker is 100% correct.  Applecare is 3 year coverage from the
original purchase date of the unit.

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Help w/ Pismo!

2004-09-02 Thread COCCORP
Man, I will NEVER learn...!

I finally got my OS 9.2.1 Pismo 400mhz working, after waiting for a new 
processor to affordably appear on Ebay, and buying it... but NOW I have a new 
problem.

The auto-update program found some stuff it said I needed to install, 
including OS 9.2.2, and a firmware update.

Anyway, after installing it the laptop restated, then displayed a message 
saying that I needed to shut down, then restart again, holding the power key + 
Apple key at the same time, until I heard  along beep.

Well, I did that. But now, the laptop will only flash the sleep/PRAM light 
(long, 3-sec flash, then a quick flash, then no light for 6 seconds. The display 
is off and I only hear a failt sound of the machine being on.

WHAT in the (hello!) DID I DO?!?

Craig W.
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Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???

2004-09-02 Thread Larry le Mac
In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time
irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network  Tool
to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work...
However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will
that affect performance ?
I have a 512k ADSL connection.
I presume not a lot...
???
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Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....

2004-09-02 Thread Tom Ethen
He who snoozes looses! When Apple announced they were no longer making the
old cards the price doubled in a single day. Now a deal is $110, not the $65
they were going for.

Tom

On 9/2/04 10:16 AM, Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few
 months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions
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Re: Applecare - impressed and not impressed

2004-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/2/04 11:05 AM, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you send any computer back to Apple for any work, it should go back just
 as you got it RAM wise to avoid that issue with them.
 
 Tom
  
 I think placing the blame on the RAM chip sounds like a bunch of hooey
 to me.  The RAM has been in there for months and I've never had a
 problem with Crucial RAM before.  I'll leave it out for a couple days
 and see if I have any problems when I put it back in, but first I want
 to fill the drive back up again first and see if we get errors again.
 
 Anyway, the speed was great, but I'm skeptical about the diagnosis, and
 really hope they replaced the drive.
 
To be fair, I'm sure Apple's techs work much the same way the guys at the
shop where I work do. They run diagnostics first. If the graphics diagnostic
fails or if the hard drive diagnostic fails the tech isn't going to pull the
RAM and send the computer back as repaired.

But if the diagnostic test doesn't show up any problem the fun begins. The
*easy inexpensive* way to deal with this is to return the computer to stock
conditions. So the hard drive gets format the OS reinstalled and any upgrade
is removed. If the problem is resolved then our techs will reinstall the
upgrades to see if the problem remains resolved. One tech reinstalls them
one at a time and the other installs all of them and then pulls them all and
reinstalls one at a time. A difference of pessimism vs optimism. The *easy
expensive* way is to install new innards. I think we can understand that the
expensive way isn't chosen.

One major problem that we techs face today is that RAM can be flaky but
still pass the RAM tests. This drove our guys nuts when the new alBooks were
first released.

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Re: Safari will not auto-activate.

2004-09-02 Thread invicta
On 2 Sep 2004, at 20:41, G-Books wrote:
Laurent followed your advice but no improvement. No duplicate on the 
HD
and cleaning caches with OnyX did not help either. Only difference is
that now a window appears saying : Mail cannot open  No associated
application could be found.

Anything else to try ?
Before re-installing, can you create a new account on your Mac and try 
when
logged into that account?

-Laurent.
I will try this but I'm going on a well deserved vacation. When I 
return I'll resume to tackle the problem. Thanks for your support.

Greetings, Andre.

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Re: CD-R drive for Wallstreet

2004-09-02 Thread Dan K
Michael Dolberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have heard from a few sources that there might be a
way to exchange a CD module in an expansion bay drive
for a CD-R module.

Is this possible?
Generally, no. Well, it _is_ possible if you can fabricate PCBs, but it 
wouldn't be an easy hack.

If so, what drive would I look for which would be
compatible with the expansion bay shell I have and can
anyone direct me to website which explains the
step-by-step procedures? (I have looked, but may be
missing the sites)
No sites because no-one has done it to my knowledge.

Short answer - original Apple Wallstreet optical EBMs use non-standard 
mechanisms, WRT both the electrical interface and the physical form 
factor.

Visit my PB EBM page for more details:
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sorry :-(

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Re: ibook SE

2004-09-02 Thread Dan K
Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are correct, there were no combo drives available so I should have  
put dvd/cd drive.

to which Mikael [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
Well, you're not correct these are unavailable, look here: http://
wegenermedia.com/ibookcdrwhome.htm
I'm sure Larry meant Apple shipped no combo drives in these models. Only 
available options were CD-ROM and DVD-ROM readers. Now of course one can 
install just about any slim drive one wishes. :-)

snipped stuff
As far as I can tell we on this list have yet to verify if the clamshell
iBook video cards built-in support for MPEG-2 decoding is supported by OS
X. Noone knows for sure?
AFAIK, no first gen clamshell can use Apple's DVD Player (ADP)under X, 
same as with Lombard the ATI RAGE Mobility chip doesn't support mpeg2 
decoding. The gen 2 clamshells have the ATI RAGE Mobility 128, same as 
Pismo, and so _should_ support ADP under X. Anyone care to confirm this 
hypothesis?

I tried a DVD drive in my gen 1 blueberry iBook and couldn't play DVDs 
with ADP. Anyone able to use VLC or other players on a gen 1 iBook? If it 
works, is it actually _usable_?

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Re: Help w/ Pismo!

2004-09-02 Thread COCCORP
Well, I replaced the 400mhz processor from my Pismo with another 400mhz one 
from a seperate machine...and it works fine.

So, evidently the firmware upgrade I tried to do did something 2 my 
processor. Can anyone instruct me on how to either PROPERLY upgrade -- or restore -- 
my 
firmware?

Can somone do it for me, for trades on Powerbook stuff (1xx to Lomard) or 
ca$h? 

Craig W.
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Re: ibook SE

2004-09-02 Thread Shawn Harley
Larry,
The third generation iBooks were Indigo for 366mhz and Graphite for the  
466mhz SE. But the Key lime was available in both speeds, 366 and  
466SE. This info was on the little fold-up brochures provided by Apple  
(I have one somewhere, but can't find it) and is also reviewed in the  
December 2000 MacAddict (p. 16, where it says Key Lime glows in the  
dark under a black light!)

I think the second generation also had an SE, the 366mhz in Graphite.  
IIRC, the standard iBook was 300mhz in Blueberry and Tangerine (in both  
first and second generation).

Shawn
On Sep 1, 2004, at 10:30 AM, larry Zasitko wrote:
Shawn,
You are correct, there were no combo drives available so I should have  
put dvd/cd drive.
As far as I knew the only SE's were the graphite, or that's what  
everyone tells me and MacTracker said the same thing.

I know that the second generation came in different speeds but again  
the SE is listed as the only 466mhz.

Where is your info from? May have to forward it to MacTracker so they  
can update their files.

Larry
On Aug 31, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Shawn Harley wrote:
I don't think any clamshell iBook ever came with a stock combo drive.  
The only(?) options were cd-rom or dvd-rom. And the Key Lime was  
available in 466mhz SE. 366mhz was Indigo or Key Lime and 466mhz SE  
was Graphite or Key Lime.
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Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???

2004-09-02 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote:

In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time
irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network  Tool
to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work...

However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will
that affect performance ?

I have a 512k ADSL connection.

I presume not a lot...

It's not your performance that should be of concern. This is not said 
in an accusatory manner, but it has always been considered very poor 
netiquette to constantly ping an ISP. It will unnecessarily waste 
**their** resources. There may a difference of opinion now that we 
are in the paradigm of broadband connections rather than dial-up, but 
I have not seen anyone voice an opinion one way or the other.

For pre-OS X, I have used StayOn! for several years. It allows me to 
ping at user definable intervals. So I ping every 3-5 minutes which 
is sufficient to keep my connection alive. Even then, I don't ping my 
ISP (although I don't see any problem doing that at 3-5 min. 
intervals), rather I ping a web IP like Yahoo.com.

I doubt that StayOn! will work in OS X, although I've never tried it. 
If there isn't a similar app available for OS X, I'll bet it would be 
simple to write an AppleScript to ping at set intervals.

My $.02 worth,

Bob


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Re: ibook SE

2004-09-02 Thread Mikael Byström
Dan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

AFAIK, no first gen clamshell can use Apple's DVD Player (ADP)under X, 
same as with Lombard the ATI RAGE Mobility chip doesn't support mpeg2 
decoding

According to ATI it can:

 Delivering a complete solution, RAGE MOBILITY includes dual LVDS
transmitters, hardware MPEG-2 decoding with iDCT...
http://www.ati.com/products/mobility/features.html

Are there other RAGE MOBILITY cards in the 1gen clamshell iBook? If so,
why can't I find any info on earlier incarnations anywhere? That Apple
doesn't support this decoding feature with the X DVD player is clear, but
does the OS actually prevent other apps from using it? Can it perhaps be
turned on somewhere? Does there have to be a VDplayer in the machine in
order for the hardware (graphics card) MPEG-2 decoding to become activated?

I posted the same ATI sourced data and the same questions before and
noone seemed to know or care.

These are the type of questions that needs to be answered IMHO.

The gen 2 clamshells have the ATI RAGE Mobility 128, same as 
Pismo, and so _should_ support ADP under X. Anyone care to confirm this 
hypothesis?

I can do that, but only with S-VCD as there is no dvdplayer. Or I could
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Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ??? (P.S.)

2004-09-02 Thread Bob
I should have added that another option is to set your email client 
to check your email every 5 minutes or so. Does Apple's Mail app 
allow you to set the time interval for checking email? I know Eudora 
does. That will keep your connection alive.

HTH,

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Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???

2004-09-02 Thread Dana Sibera
On 03/09/2004, at 4:22 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time
irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network  Tool
to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work...
However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will
that affect performance ?
I have a 512k ADSL connection.
I presume not a lot...
It'd affect you very little. you can do somewhere over 50,000 bytes a 
second on 512k, so 64/50,000 is miniscule.

If you do want to spread pings out, and are OK with using the terminal, 
you can open it and enter:

ping -i 300 www.apple.com
for example, which will ping apple.com at 300 second intervals. That's 
only once every 5 minutes.

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Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....

2004-09-02 Thread Clyde Kahrl
Eric wrote:
Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source?
A:   Source for what?   you can always get the old orinoco (roam 
about) cardbus cards from Wegener for $28--it comes with an OS9 
driver but you have to download a $20 driver to use OSX from 
IOXperts, or orange micro--although maybe proxim is now giving the 
driver away--i'm not sure.  If you have a TiBook like I had---this 
gives great reception because it hangs outside.

Some people use a cheap D-link USB wireless adapter with IBooks.
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Firewire Drive for Backup - Recommendations

2004-09-02 Thread G Harris
I'm looking for recommendations for a new firewire
drive, and for OSX-compatible backup software.

Here's my situation:

2 networked Macs - ibook G3 with OS 10.2, and
old Powermac 7100, OS 8

I'd like to buy the firewire drive for the ibook, and
do a full backup of the older mac (which I'll
eventually replace).  

Any comments on the best hardware / software?


G. Harris
Philadelphia

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OT- need some help with backlight

2004-09-02 Thread John
Can anybody here help me troubleshoot a problem with a non-working 
backlight? I know my way around a VOM and a soldering iron, and I 
understand about working with high voltages. Or if you can just point me 
to a site with info on the subject, I would highly appreciate it. I'd 
really hate to spend $90 on an inverter, when it's only bad CCFL tubes. 
Probably best to contact me off-list.
Thanks!

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Re: ibook SE

2004-09-02 Thread larry Zasitko
I know that there was cdrw available aftermarket. He was talking, I 
thought, original..

On Sep 2, 2004, at 4:12 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
larry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You are correct, there were no combo drives available so I should have
put dvd/cd drive.
Well, you're not correct these are unavailable, look here: http://
wegenermedia.com/ibookcdrwhome.htm
However, if a superdrive is worth the cost is up to the potential 
buyer.
I'd go for the DIY CD-RW solution unless I could make sure the video
cards built-in support for MPEG-2 decoding was supported by OS X and 
if I
could do this I'd rather choose the Combo solution as I feel the G3 is
too weak for burning DVD movies. For data backup, DVD may very well be
worth both the cost and using the Superdrive solution. Data can be very
expensive to loose.

As far as I can tell we on this list have yet to verify if the 
clamshell
iBook video cards built-in support for MPEG-2 decoding is supported by 
OS
X. Noone knows for sure?

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