Re: Cannot install OS 9

2004-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 21/10/04 18:20, CJ at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an iBook/500.  I installed OS X 10.3 and erased the HDD.  I want to
 use a few classic programs so I tried to install Mac OS 9.1.  When I hold
 down the c key, the bar fills up halfway then says bus error, hold down
 shift to disable extensions.  I held down shift and got the same result.
 Does anyone know what I can do about this?

I think I've read similar stories with 9.1 installer CD. Can you find a 9.2
installer?

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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 21/10/04 21:15, Shawn Harley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laurent,
 
 Does Scott need to have the ORiNOCO card installed before the restart
 to be recognized?
 I use a Linksys 54g in my Wallstreet (OS X), and I cannot hot swap it.
 The card has to be installed before power on/restart to be recognized.

I think the original poster mentioned using OS 9. I don't think you have to
restart with the card in in OS 9. If I remember correctly when I had my
Wallstreet, I was able to insert the card at any time and it would be
recognized immediately, under OS 9 only. The same card that is recognized in
9 won't be recognized at all by AirPort software in X. You need to get third
party drivers, like the IOXpert one.

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Re: sudden death wallstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 10:49 PM + 10/21/04, Chet McCarty wrote:

  A few days ago I pushed the power button on my ( not plugged-in )
Wallstreet and a second later caught my sleeve on the battery lever and
ejected the battery, before the screen even lit up. Now the screen won't
light up nor will my previously-fine powerbook do anything else at all. Any
suggestions?

I'd bet money that resetting your Power Manager Unit will solve your 
problem. But there are specific specific steps for each machine. The 
following URL will take you to a page that explains every PMU reset 
for each model of PowerBook, ibook, etc. I'd advise looking up the 
steps for your PB.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449#faq8


Good Luck,


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Re: Cannot install OS 9

2004-10-22 Thread CJ
I copied the System Folder from the CD and put it in my HD.  It still 
crashes during boot, but it works with classic.
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Cannot install OS 9


on 21/10/04 18:20, CJ at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an iBook/500.  I installed OS X 10.3 and erased the HDD.  I want 
to
use a few classic programs so I tried to install Mac OS 9.1.  When I hold
down the c key, the bar fills up halfway then says bus error, hold 
down
shift to disable extensions.  I held down shift and got the same result.
Does anyone know what I can do about this?
I think I've read similar stories with 9.1 installer CD. Can you find a 
9.2
installer?

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wallstreet upgrades

2004-10-22 Thread cmf0046


I recently purchased a Powerbook G3 wallstreet. I was wondering about two 
possible upgrades. First, what are my options for upgrading to a CDRW. Is there 
an internal drive that was made for the wallstreet, OEM or thirdparty? I know I 
could probably buy a firewire upgrade card and buy an external drive but I 
would like to avoid that if I could. Also, what are my options for running OSX 
on my wallstreet. The system has 384 MB Ram and a 10 GB HD. Any info would be 
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Coleman Ford

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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread victoria Duggan


As for the ORiNOCO card, I don't think AirPort supports them under OS 
9.
Oops, wrong, wrong, wrong. The Apple Airport software will absolutely
support the Orinoco Gold or
Silver PC card in OS 9.
You can also use the Orinoco software.
Hi Bob i disagree with this !
If the airport software will absolutely support the Orinoco gold or 
silver cards in OS 9.
 Do you think that the OS on my MAC will please let the cards know as i 
have to use the orinoco software.

I tried over and over to get the card seen buy Airport and it is a no-go.
specs are
Lombard 400/ 384 ram/ 20gb hdd/ dvd/cdrw/ and Orinoco gold wi-fi card.
the mac wireless drivers work fine for the OSX partition i have also.
vicki
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Looking for recommendations on secondary machine

2004-10-22 Thread Nina
Hi - I just bought a 400 Mhz pismo on ebay for $329. It's in great shape (
afew scuff marks on the outer case) but works wonderful and is running OSX.
I was originally in the market for a wallstreet due to avg price of pismo
being around $500, and saw several pismos's go for just over or around $400.
I had to watch for a couple of weeks for this to pop up, but it was worth
the wait.

I don't run the hi-tech software that I suspect alot of folks here run, just
Word, Excel, quicken and the like (okay a few games but for the kids!), but
I'm really satisfied with it. We also have a Kanga (I know - snail at only
250 Mhz!) but I love that one too - a reliable old tank that one is.

Nina

 From: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:54:41 -0400
 To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: G-Books Digest #1970
 
 He came back with a few machines that he, his family and friends may
 be convinced to part with. In a nutshell they are:
 Wallstreet
 Original Blueberry iBook
 iBook 600mhz (icebook from what I can tell)
 Pismo 400mhz
 
 A couple need batteries, the 600mhz needs a new combo drive, all are
 running X right now.
 
 It seems like400 mhz Pismo's are averaging $500 or so on ebay Some
 Icebooks are going for over $600
 
 Of course, with that in mind it's almost worth looking for closeouts
 on new machines isn't it! Especially if you have to consider a
 battery or additional RAM.


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Re: wallstreet upgrades

2004-10-22 Thread Ben Dyer
There was a CD-RW drive manufactured for the Wallstreet, but it's 
impossible to find these days. Unlike the Lombard and Pismo, you can't 
just replace the drive in the expansion bay module with a standard 
low-profile optical drive. At this stage, your only option is to get an 
external device.

OS X runs quite well on the 292 and 300MHz Wallstreets, and acceptably 
on the 266MHz. Anything slower and you'll be frustrated. Jaguar is the 
last OS officially supported by Apple, but 10.3 can be installed with 
the aid of XPostFacto. 384MB RAM is really the minimum for OS X. Less 
than that and things like launching applications and switching between 
open applications become unacceptably slow. Some people have had 
problems using 512MB RAM under 10.3, but I've never run into it on 
either of my PowerBooks. For maximum performance, set your monitor to 
thousands of colours mode. To speed QT movie playback, there's a 
modification you can make to the video drivers, but I recommend staying 
away from that unless it's really necessary for you.

A 10GB hard disk is enough to install a stripped-down version of 
Panther and still have enough room left over for a decent set of 
programs and documents. Panther will take up about 1-1.5GB over the top 
of your existing OS 9 installation (probably about 500MB of system and 
applications).

Cheers,
Ben
On 23 Oct 2004, at 01:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I recently purchased a Powerbook G3 wallstreet. I was wondering about 
two
possible upgrades. First, what are my options for upgrading to a CDRW. 
Is there
an internal drive that was made for the wallstreet, OEM or thirdparty? 
I know I
could probably buy a firewire upgrade card and buy an external drive 
but I
would like to avoid that if I could. Also, what are my options for 
running OSX
on my wallstreet. The system has 384 MB Ram and a 10 GB HD. Any info 
would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Coleman Ford
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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread COCCORP
 Oops, wrong, wrong, wrong. The Apple Airport software 
 will absolutely
 support the Orinoco Gold or
 Silver PC card in OS 9.

 You can also use the Orinoco software.

Hi Bob i disagree with this !

If the airport software will absolutely support
 the Orinoco gold or silver cards in OS 9.
 Do you think that the OS on my MAC will please let the 
 cards know as i have to use the orinoco software.

Don't know about the gold Card, but I have a Proxim Orinoco Silver 16-bit 802.11b 
card, and I use it with Airport on my 2400c, my Wallstreet and my Lombard. I also use 
it on my 3400c, but it has the Orinoco software...

Airport sees it as an Airport card.

Don't know if it makes a difference, but is your card 16-bit or 32-bit? I know there 
are some Orinoco cards that are 32-bit...

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA

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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread vicki
on 22/10/04 6:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oops, wrong, wrong, wrong. The Apple Airport software
 will absolutely
 support the Orinoco Gold or
 Silver PC card in OS 9.
 
 You can also use the Orinoco software.
 
 Hi Bob i disagree with this !
 
 If the airport software will absolutely support
 the Orinoco gold or silver cards in OS 9.
 Do you think that the OS on my MAC will please let the
 cards know as i have to use the orinoco software.
 
 Don't know about the gold Card, but I have a Proxim Orinoco Silver 16-bit
 802.11b card, and I use it with Airport on my 2400c, my Wallstreet and my
 Lombard. I also use it on my 3400c, but it has the Orinoco software...
 
 Airport sees it as an Airport card.
 
 Don't know if it makes a difference, but is your card 16-bit or 32-bit? I know
 there are some Orinoco cards that are 32-bit...
 
 Craig W.
 Atlanta, GA
Hi My card is 32bit i think on the back the boxes that are ticked are 3.3v
5v 16 and 32, 


The only one that is not ticked is the dma box.

vicki


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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 22/10/04 12:45, victoria Duggan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As for the ORiNOCO card, I don't think AirPort supports them under OS
 9.
 
 Oops, wrong, wrong, wrong. The Apple Airport software will absolutely
 support the Orinoco Gold or
 Silver PC card in OS 9.
 
 You can also use the Orinoco software.
 
 Hi Bob i disagree with this !
 
 If the airport software will absolutely support the Orinoco gold or
 silver cards in OS 9.
 Do you think that the OS on my MAC will please let the cards know as i
 have to use the orinoco software.
 
 I tried over and over to get the card seen buy Airport and it is a no-go.
 
 specs are
 
 Lombard 400/ 384 ram/ 20gb hdd/ dvd/cdrw/ and Orinoco gold wi-fi card.
 the mac wireless drivers work fine for the OSX partition i have also.

One thing that you have to keep in mind is that the core of the card is the
chipset in it and what the software really use is that chipset. I've seen
this factor being a bigger problem when somebody wrote an Apple Newton
driver for wireless cards. The driver was designed for a specific chipset
which was used when AirPort was initially released. Over the years,
manufacturers will replace the chipset for another one but the cards will
often still have the same label, just the revision number will change.

That's probably what is happening here. Even though the card has the ORiNOCO
label on it, it probably uses a different chipset than the original
ORiNOCO...

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Re: Upgrading Hard Drive - PowerBook G4 17

2004-10-22 Thread Steve Fuller
On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 21/10/04 17:38, Steve Fuller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the link. I've done this on my TiBook and that model looks
much simpler than the new ones. Maybe I'll leave well alone.
Not a problem Roger.. Happy to help someone out.
I'd like to put a larger drive in my 17, but I bought 2 years of
Applecare on it this last March. I'm not sure they'd appreciate me
replacing my own hd ;)
It always depends on what parts Apple considers user serviceable. Have 
you
checked the 17 page on the Apple support web site?
Only thing that is user servicable is the battery and memory. BUT!!! 
They now have a replacement foot kit listed :)

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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Scott Birdwell
I've been having some issues with my Wallstreet Mainstreet not charging 
the battery pack.  Laurent Daudelin was kind enough to suggest:

Have you tried resetting the PMU? To check if the contacts are the
problem, try inserting the battery in the other bay. If the PowerBook 
sees
it, then the contact in the other bay are dirty or bad. If not, then 
it's
most likely the PMU.

If I remember correctly, you need to have a good main battery in the
PowerBook for the PRAM battery to recharge (yes, it's a rechargeable 
one).
Of course, it is quite possible that the rechargeable PRAM battery has
reached the end of its useful life. You first have to resolve your main
battery problem and then you'll see if the PRAM battery gets back to 
life.
This is interesting.  Yes, I've reset the PMU and zapped the PRAM, the 
latter allowed the Battery Reset to think it was going to work, but 
still no go.  I've tried the battery pack in the other expansion bay - 
no change.  So are you saying the PRAM battery cannot be recharged 
unless there is a battery pack in the expansion bay?  The guy that I 
bought this from claimed that this computer was almost never used with 
a battery.  It didn't even arrive with one.   I had to buy a new one.  
He did say that the date  time would get all messed up within a matter 
of minutes if disconnected from the wall outlet.  Maybe this is because 
the PRAM battery was slowly discharging as it wasn't getting recharged.

My wireless question was:
My second question is of less critical importance, but still related 
to
my Wallstreet: I asked G-Listers for a suggestion for a wireless 
PCMCIA
card for this and someone suggested an ORiNOCO would work great with
Airport Drivers.  I bought a new one off eBay for less than $20 (!),
downloaded Airport 2.0.4 and installed it.  When I plug the PC card 
in,
I get an icon on the desktop, but Airport doesn't recognize the card
and won't connect.  Any ideas?  I am thanking you in advance.
Laurent's reply:
I did the same on an old Wallstreet and the card was immediately 
recognized,
in 9.2.2, as a genuine AirPort card after restarting (after installing 
the
AirPort software, not the card). If it doesn't work, I suspect that 
the card
you bought, although an ORiNOCO, has a different chipset than the 
original
ORiNOCO/WaveLan that Apple used as AirPort card. Other than that, I 
don't
know...
I bought an ORiNOCO 8461-05 802.11 a/b Combo Card Silver.  Anybody know 
if this one should theoretically work or not?

Vikki Duggan suggested:
Go on to the low end mac sight! and go to the 1400 powerbook page. 
Then
scroll down to the wireless part and click on the link and the orinoco
installer image is on the page halfway down.
Thanks for the tip, Vikki.  I did this, but it still doesn't recognize 
the card.  Also, thanks to Ben Dyer, Tom Peterson, Shawn Harley for 
chipping in.  FWIW the card does mount (either installed at boot up or 
inserted after boot).  The ORiNOCO software (and Airport) simply 
doesn't see the card.  I'll still keep trying.  Something tells me I 
shoulda' just bought the last of the new iBook G3 from Macmall for $699.

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Re: wallstreet upgrades

2004-10-22 Thread cmf0046
Thanks for the help. I realized that I would probably have to get an external 
CDRW but I just didnt want to have to lug it around every where I went. Thanks 
for the help and advice. I appreciate it.

Coleman

Quoting Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There was a CD-RW drive manufactured for the Wallstreet, but it's 
 impossible to find these days. Unlike the Lombard and Pismo, you can't 
 just replace the drive in the expansion bay module with a standard 
 low-profile optical drive. At this stage, your only option is to get an 
 external device.
 
 OS X runs quite well on the 292 and 300MHz Wallstreets, and acceptably 
 on the 266MHz. Anything slower and you'll be frustrated. Jaguar is the 
 last OS officially supported by Apple, but 10.3 can be installed with 
 the aid of XPostFacto. 384MB RAM is really the minimum for OS X. Less 
 than that and things like launching applications and switching between 
 open applications become unacceptably slow. Some people have had 
 problems using 512MB RAM under 10.3, but I've never run into it on 
 either of my PowerBooks. For maximum performance, set your monitor to 
 thousands of colours mode. To speed QT movie playback, there's a 
 modification you can make to the video drivers, but I recommend staying 
 away from that unless it's really necessary for you.
 
 A 10GB hard disk is enough to install a stripped-down version of 
 Panther and still have enough room left over for a decent set of 
 programs and documents. Panther will take up about 1-1.5GB over the top 
 of your existing OS 9 installation (probably about 500MB of system and 
 applications).
 
 Cheers,
 Ben
 
 On 23 Oct 2004, at 01:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  I recently purchased a Powerbook G3 wallstreet. I was wondering about 
  two
  possible upgrades. First, what are my options for upgrading to a CDRW. 
  Is there
  an internal drive that was made for the wallstreet, OEM or thirdparty? 
  I know I
  could probably buy a firewire upgrade card and buy an external drive 
  but I
  would like to avoid that if I could. Also, what are my options for 
  running OSX
  on my wallstreet. The system has 384 MB Ram and a 10 GB HD. Any info 
  would be
  greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
  Coleman Ford
 
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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread victoria Duggan

I bought an ORiNOCO 8461-05 802.11 a/b Combo Card Silver.  Anybody know 
if this one should theoretically work or not?

Vikki Duggan suggested:
Go on to the low end mac sight! and go to the 1400 powerbook page. 
Then
scroll down to the wireless part and click on the link and the orinoco
installer image is on the page halfway down.
Thanks for the tip, Vikki.  I did this, but it still doesn't recognize 
the card.  Also, thanks to Ben Dyer, Tom Peterson, Shawn Harley for 
chipping in.  FWIW the card does mount (either installed at boot up or 
inserted after boot).  The ORiNOCO software (and Airport) simply 
doesn't see the card.  I'll still keep trying.  Something tells me I 
shoulda' just bought the last of the new iBook G3 from Macmall for $699.


Have you tried the ioxperts software i use this for the intel proxim 
card that i run in a 3400c and that also recognises the Orinoco card on 
the wallstreet that i have.

Just so that i do not confuse people here . i have a lombard that i use 
for out and about with an Orinoco gold card, a 3400 fitted with a intel 
proxim card that my daughter uses. and a wallstreet that is upstairs as 
a normal eveyone in the house computer fitted with a second Orinoco card.

if you do a google for wireless 802.11b drivers it should bring up a lot 
of pages some are free download and some are shareware fee.

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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 22/10/04 15:56, Scott Birdwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been having some issues with my Wallstreet Mainstreet not charging
 the battery pack.  Laurent Daudelin was kind enough to suggest:
 
 Have you tried resetting the PMU? To check if the contacts are the
 problem, try inserting the battery in the other bay. If the PowerBook
 sees
 it, then the contact in the other bay are dirty or bad. If not, then
 it's
 most likely the PMU.
 
 If I remember correctly, you need to have a good main battery in the
 PowerBook for the PRAM battery to recharge (yes, it's a rechargeable
 one).
 Of course, it is quite possible that the rechargeable PRAM battery has
 reached the end of its useful life. You first have to resolve your main
 battery problem and then you'll see if the PRAM battery gets back to
 life.
 
 This is interesting.  Yes, I've reset the PMU and zapped the PRAM, the
 latter allowed the Battery Reset to think it was going to work, but
 still no go.  I've tried the battery pack in the other expansion bay -
 no change.  So are you saying the PRAM battery cannot be recharged
 unless there is a battery pack in the expansion bay?  The guy that I
 bought this from claimed that this computer was almost never used with
 a battery.  It didn't even arrive with one.   I had to buy a new one.
 He did say that the date  time would get all messed up within a matter
 of minutes if disconnected from the wall outlet.  Maybe this is because
 the PRAM battery was slowly discharging as it wasn't getting recharged.

I think that this is what I've read somewhere. As long as the PowerBook is
plugged, the internal clock will keep the time. When it's unplugged and the
main battery is depleted, the PRAM battery discharges very quickly and will
recharge once there is enough juice in the main battery.

 
 My wireless question was:
 My second question is of less critical importance, but still related
 to
 my Wallstreet: I asked G-Listers for a suggestion for a wireless
 PCMCIA
 card for this and someone suggested an ORiNOCO would work great with
 Airport Drivers.  I bought a new one off eBay for less than $20 (!),
 downloaded Airport 2.0.4 and installed it.  When I plug the PC card
 in,
 I get an icon on the desktop, but Airport doesn't recognize the card
 and won't connect.  Any ideas?  I am thanking you in advance.
 
 Laurent's reply:
 I did the same on an old Wallstreet and the card was immediately
 recognized,
 in 9.2.2, as a genuine AirPort card after restarting (after installing
 the
 AirPort software, not the card). If it doesn't work, I suspect that
 the card
 you bought, although an ORiNOCO, has a different chipset than the
 original
 ORiNOCO/WaveLan that Apple used as AirPort card. Other than that, I
 don't
 know...
 
 I bought an ORiNOCO 8461-05 802.11 a/b Combo Card Silver.  Anybody know
 if this one should theoretically work or not?

Based on my experience of many Newton users trying to find a compatible
wireless card, I can say that no combo card had ever worked in a Newton. The
design is apparently quite different to allow the card its 2
functionalities. Now, a Newton is no PowerBook but I guess your options
would be to find a driver under 9 that would make the card work or try to
find an older ORiNOCO or Wavelan card on eBay. As you have experienced, the
standard Apple AirPort software won't recognize the card under OS 9...

-Laurent.
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Re: Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 22/10/04 16:35, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 22/10/04 15:56, Scott Birdwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've been having some issues with my Wallstreet Mainstreet not charging
 the battery pack.  Laurent Daudelin was kind enough to suggest:
 
 Have you tried resetting the PMU? To check if the contacts are the
 problem, try inserting the battery in the other bay. If the PowerBook
 sees
 it, then the contact in the other bay are dirty or bad. If not, then
 it's
 most likely the PMU.
 
 If I remember correctly, you need to have a good main battery in the
 PowerBook for the PRAM battery to recharge (yes, it's a rechargeable
 one).
 Of course, it is quite possible that the rechargeable PRAM battery has
 reached the end of its useful life. You first have to resolve your main
 battery problem and then you'll see if the PRAM battery gets back to
 life.
 
 This is interesting.  Yes, I've reset the PMU and zapped the PRAM, the
 latter allowed the Battery Reset to think it was going to work, but
 still no go.  I've tried the battery pack in the other expansion bay -
 no change.  So are you saying the PRAM battery cannot be recharged
 unless there is a battery pack in the expansion bay?  The guy that I
 bought this from claimed that this computer was almost never used with
 a battery.  It didn't even arrive with one.   I had to buy a new one.
 He did say that the date  time would get all messed up within a matter
 of minutes if disconnected from the wall outlet.  Maybe this is because
 the PRAM battery was slowly discharging as it wasn't getting recharged.
 
 I think that this is what I've read somewhere. As long as the PowerBook is
 plugged, the internal clock will keep the time. When it's unplugged and the
 main battery is depleted, the PRAM battery discharges very quickly and will
 recharge once there is enough juice in the main battery.

I forgot to add that based on your experience, I would bet that the PMU is
the likely problem. The PMU controls all aspects of charging the batteries,
reporting how much power remains, etc.

There is also the slight possibility that your battery is defective. I've
got a brand new one once from BTI and had to exchange it as it was not
charging. In my case, I knew it was the battery because I had another one
that was charging fine. If you could find someone with a Lombard or a Pismo,
you could try your battery in a different laptop to see if it recharges. If
it does, then the battery is defective. If not, then most likely your PMU
(Power Management Unit) is the defective part.

I'm not a technician, so take what I say for what it's worth, but I've owned
a 3500 (Kanga), a Wallstreet, a Pismo and now a PowerBook 17. I took the
Wallstreet completely apart a few times and put it back together without any
harm. I took apart the Pismo completely apart just a couple of times.
FWIW...

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ORiNOCO/Mainstreet

2004-10-22 Thread Scott Birdwell
Don't know if it makes a difference, but is your card 16-bit or 
32-bit? I know
there are some Orinoco cards that are 32-bit...

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA
Hi My card is 32bit i think on the back the boxes that are ticked are 
3.3v
5v 16 and 32,

The only one that is not ticked is the dma box.
vicki
My card is ticked 3.3v  32, if that makes a difference.
Scott Birdwell
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Subject: Re: Danged picture on my email

2004-10-22 Thread Claire Hart

I recently upgraded my PB to 10.3.5 and now Mail insists on putting a
dorky picture of a butterfly on everything I send. I don't find
anything in Mail preferences to turn this off...how do I make it quit?
Unless you're using mac.com as your mail server, the only person seeing
your 'inner butterfly' is you.
To change the picture, go to System Preferences  Accounts  picture.
You can drag in any picture or choose from the pre-created ones.

Bruce Johnson
Actually, I do receive e-mails from time to time that have the picture 
in the upper right corner of their e-mail, and recognize them as one of 
the Apple photos.  I picked the cat when I did my set-up, and 
occasionally I'll see it also in an occasional e-mail from someone 
else.  I just called my friend whose computer is an eMac with Panther, 
and she does not see my cat photo on my e-mail.  So I don't know why 
some have it and some don't.  Maybe someone else might know that 
answer...

Claire
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Re: Subject: Re: Danged picture on my email

2004-10-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 22, 2004, at 3:55 PM, Claire Hart wrote:
Actually, I do receive e-mails from time to time that have the picture 
in the upper right corner of their e-mail, and recognize them as one 
of the Apple photos.  I picked the cat when I did my set-up, and 
occasionally I'll see it also in an occasional e-mail from someone 
else.
If they're mailing from .mac accounts, everyone sees the pictures on 
the e-mails.

There's something in the mail server setup at .mac that enables this, 
that could presumably be enabled on other servers, but I've never 
figured it out.

It isn't, as far as I can tell, a part of the message itself...
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Re: Subject: Re: Danged picture on my email

2004-10-22 Thread Miche Doherty
On 22 Oct 2004, at 11:55 pm, Claire Hart wrote:
Unless you're using mac.com as your mail server, the only person 
seeing
your 'inner butterfly' is you.

To change the picture, go to System Preferences  Accounts  picture.
You can drag in any picture or choose from the pre-created ones.

Bruce Johnson
Actually, I do receive e-mails from time to time that have the picture 
in the upper right corner of their e-mail, and recognize them as one 
of the Apple photos.  I picked the cat when I did my set-up, and 
occasionally I'll see it also in an occasional e-mail from someone 
else.  I just called my friend whose computer is an eMac with Panther, 
and she does not see my cat photo on my e-mail.  So I don't know why 
some have it and some don't.  Maybe someone else might know that 
answer...
As Bruce says above, it's a mac.com thing. It doesn't happen with other 
email accounts.

You can also get Mail to display someone's picture with emails you 
receive from them, if you want: just paste the picture into their entry 
in your Address Book.

Miche.
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