Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Amber: Maybe you just did not notice how many people on the plane watched the same movie as you did :-). Personally I prefer my new 12'' over the 15'' that I had about a year ago. It is easier to transport and I can use it even when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Display quality is quite OK and at home I use the large Apple Cinema Display. My typical use is similar to the one described by Andrew yesterday. One useful application with this small display is CodeTek VirtualDesktop Pro that enables you to define virtual desktops and assign specific applications to them. That enables me to work more efficiently by grouping applications that are typically used side by side - iPhoto and Photoshop Elements on one screen, Development Environment and Terminal on another screen etc. Just my 2 cents to this discussion. -- Honza www.lesninoviny.com - Blog z lesu a haju Pennsylvanie (.mac: musiljan) (ICQ: 134361915) (Y!: musiljan) (M: +1 610 570 9349) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. On my PowerBook G4, UK edition: - the ctrl key is Ctrl or ^ (not labeled) - the alt key is Alt or the railway symbol - the command key is Command (not labeled) or the Apple symbol or the cloverleaf symbol - the shift key is Shift (not labeled) or the open arrow - there are two enter/return keys, each with own symbol And my personal favourite is the escape key, which is Esc, but also has a symbol (a circle with an arrow pointing out). This symbol is not present on my keyboard, but I found it (and only it) in one of the (older) programs, and its also shown in the Force Quit menu item. Took me 10 minutes to figure out which key that might be. Now, weren't Macs supposed to be easy to use...? What's the rationale behind these confusing double or triple designations? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
At 9:16 AM +0100 1/4/05, Marcin Wichary wrote: You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. On my PowerBook G4, UK edition: - the ctrl key is Ctrl or ^ (not labeled) - the alt key is Alt or the railway symbol - the command key is Command (not labeled) or the Apple symbol or the cloverleaf symbol - the shift key is Shift (not labeled) or the open arrow - there are two enter/return keys, each with own symbol And my personal favourite is the escape key, which is Esc, but also has a symbol (a circle with an arrow pointing out). This symbol is not present on my keyboard, but I found it (and only it) in one of the (older) programs, and its also shown in the Force Quit menu item. Took me 10 minutes to figure out which key that might be. On my recent Apple keyboards I have: control, option (with a tiny alt in the upper left corner), what Apple calls the Command key that has an Open-Apple in the lower left corner and the cloverleaf in the lower right corner, space bar, Command, option, control The alt was added to the option key so that people used to pc machines would know what the key did The escape key just has esc on it. I suspect that the escape key you have is due to some EU decree for the multiple language situation. History Lesson: Originally, what is now the left Command key was called the Open-Apple key on the Apple II keyboards. The right Command key was called the Closed-Apple key and the apple was a solid one. Both of these modifier keys did different actions. When the Mac came out it dropped the Closed-Apple key but kept the Open-Apple key, added the cloverleaf, and called it the Command key. BTW, there is a name for the cloverleaf symbol; it is something like Quadrial, Quadrigale, IIRC -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Uninstalling application?
Is there a way to uninstall and application that will also delete ALL of the preference files for that application? I'm having a problem launching Adobe GoLive and want to try and reinstall it; I don't want the old prefs causing a problem. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: And my personal favourite is the escape key, which is Esc, but also has a symbol (a circle with an arrow pointing out). This symbol is not present on my keyboard, but I found it (and only it) in one of the (older) programs, and its also shown in the Force Quit menu item. Took me 10 minutes to figure out which key that might be. On my recent Apple keyboards I have: control, option (with a tiny alt in the upper left corner), what Apple calls the Command key that has an Open-Apple in the lower left corner and the cloverleaf in the lower right corner, space bar, Command, option, control The alt was added to the option key so that people used to pc machines would know what the key did The escape key just has esc on it. I suspect that the escape key you have is due to some EU decree for the multiple language situation. Marcin means that the symbols he/she describes are used in the menus such as in Apple-Force Quit. The esc key in Force Quit is depicted with a symbol: a circle with an arrow pointing out. When I first started using OS X I didn't know what the heck that symbol was. In the Finder go to the Help menu and type in 'Symbols for special keys' and go to that help document to see all the symbols for keys. Turtle-Bear -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:52:18 -0800, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On thing about the script menu is that by default (it is activated from the Applescipt folder in Applications) it has lots of Applescript aliases in it. I don't use any of them, so I just emptied the whole contents allowing me to use this as my own Apple menu. Also, it looks kind of strange with certain programs (Office), which have their script menus. Right now I have Entourage open, so right after the help menu is a script menu, then a little over an inch away is my script menu, both of which have the same icon, but very different contents. Good going Andrew! Sounds like a great idea and I'm going to try it out. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
I'd love to take credit, but credit actually goes to David Pogue as I got it from his OSX Panther Missing Manual book (highly recommended, by the way). Andrew --- dan_A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:52:18 -0800, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On thing about the script menu is that by default (it is activated from the Applescipt folder in Applications) it has lots of Applescript aliases in it. I don't use any of them, so I just emptied the whole contents allowing me to use this as my own Apple menu. Also, it looks kind of strange with certain programs (Office), which have their script menus. Right now I have Entourage open, so right after the help menu is a script menu, then a little over an inch away is my script menu, both of which have the same icon, but very different contents. Good going Andrew! Sounds like a great idea and I'm going to try it out. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
I'd love to take credit, but credit actually goes to David Pogue as I got it from his OSX Panther Missing Manual book (highly recommended, by the way). Andrew --- dan_A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:52:18 -0800, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On thing about the script menu is that by default (it is activated from the Applescipt folder in Applications) it has lots of Applescript aliases in it. I don't use any of them, so I just emptied the whole contents allowing me to use this as my own Apple menu. Also, it looks kind of strange with certain programs (Office), which have their script menus. Right now I have Entourage open, so right after the help menu is a script menu, then a little over an inch away is my script menu, both of which have the same icon, but very different contents. Good going Andrew! Sounds like a great idea and I'm going to try it out. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
On 1/4/05 12:16 AM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. Actually, I think Apple's keys are very clearly marked and easy to identify. I simply wasn't paying attention and made an error when I typed them into my note. I meant to type in the option key but instead typed in Apple and Cmd keys which are one in the same. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Uninstalling application?
On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Is there a way to uninstall and application that will also delete ALL of the preference files for that application? I'm having a problem launching Adobe GoLive and want to try and reinstall it; I don't want the old prefs causing a problem. Unless Adobe has an uninstaller, you'll have to go into ~/Library/Preferences and delete the prefs manually. Try trashing the prefs first, that could well solve the launching problem. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of P rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
At 7:03 AM -0800 1/4/05, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: History Lesson: Originally, what is now the left Command key was called the Open-Apple key on the Apple II keyboards. The right Command key was called the Closed-Apple key and the apple was a solid one. Both of these modifier keys did different actions. When the Mac came out it dropped the Closed-Apple key but kept the Open-Apple key, added the cloverleaf, and called it the Command key. BTW, there is a name for the cloverleaf symbol; it is something like Quadrial, Quadrigale, IIRC The first Macs had just the Cloverleaf symbol, it was sometime later that the Apple was added. Apple wanted to call it the Command key and went looking for an international symbol that applied. The Cloverleaf was the closest they could find. I remember when I first started helping out at my daughters' school and kept getting confused when people referred to the Apple key. Up to that point I had used a Mac 512K, Plus and IIsi and as far as I can recall they all had jut the Cloverleaf symbol on the Command key. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
In the Finder go to the Help menu and type in 'Symbols for special keys' and go to that help document to see all the symbols for keys. In my field (interaction design) there's a saying that if something needs a help screen, it's badly designed in the first place. I don't have many problems with distinguishing/understand the special keys anymore... but it still takes me much more mental effort than I think is necessary. And I suspect that newcomers to Macs might have big problems in some situations... (aforementioned Force Quit, for example). Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
Actually, I think Apple's keys are very clearly marked and easy to identify. I simply wasn't paying attention and made an error when I typed them into my note. I meant to type in the option key but instead typed in Apple and Cmd keys which are one in the same. This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? I also believe that the alt designation is inconsistent... It's above the railway symbol, suggesting that it requires shifting to activate. Why couldn't the two symbols be put next to each other, like on the command key? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
The alt was added to the option key so that people used to pc machines would know what the key did Could you elaborate on that, please? The way I see it it doesn't do the thing many PC users would expect it to do, which is activating menu items with the corresponding letter underlined. AFAIK the Alt key on the Macs is used for special characters/diacritics, which is an entirely different purpose...? And don't get me started on the following issue: the popular shortcuts in programs (Photoshop, for example) are activated: - by Ctrl (Ctrl-S) on Windows. Ctrl is the leftmost key on most PC keyboards. - by Command (Command-S) on Mac. Command is the key just left to the spacebar on Apple keyboards. - by Windows key on a PC keyboard connected to a Mac. Windows key is exactly in between the keys mentioned above. - by Ctrl key on Mac keyboard connected to a PC. Talk about confusion and inability to use your muscle memory! I don't blame any platform for this problem, and I see no simple solution to it [1], but this is 20 years after both platforms started and we're still suffering... [1] a small help would be the keyboards detecting the platform and remapping accordingly... but what about stuff as Virtual PC? or Remote Desktop connection to a PC? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iPhoto (was: screen sizes vs. reality)
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Andrew F. wrote: Iphoto, at least in the current version, makes all kinds of folders within folders that appear to have nothing to do with organizing pictures. There are folders for thumbs, and cryptic names to these folders and the folders inside them. I used it for a while last year (I have only been in OSX for about a year) and after having to open every single folder under pictures to find my photos, such as my old 2002 - January folder, which had changed and scattered photos that used to (in Windows) be organized the way I wanted them organized. [snip] I'd have to assume that you have need to work on photos *outside* of iPhoto? Otherwise, create your organization scheme *within* the program (left-hand pane; similar to playlists in iTunes) and all should be well. If you *on occasion* need to use a pic outside the program, just export it. If you need to work a lot outside the program, use something else (graphic converter, for example). It'll let you organize outside the program to your heart's content, then treat you to unrestricted browsing within. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
You can also drag items to the Finder's sidebar in Panther. Very Convenient. Aaron Willems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't modify the Apple Menu in OS X. That's what the dock is for. You can however spend some money and purchase a program called Fruitmenu. This program will allow you modify the Apple Menu. -- Aaron Willems Is it possible to add an alias or other items to the Apple menu in OS 10.2.3? In OS 8 through OS 9 I'd place an alias of the hard drive in the apple menu for quick access. I'd like to do the same in OS X but I can't find a menu folder. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
Dean, The nice thing about using the dock is that it's a one-click operation. In OS 9's Apple Menu, you clicked the apple, went down to whatever you were choosing and clicked again. (Or was it click the apple, drag to the intended item, and then release? Or was that OS 7? Oh, well.) Even in OSX, if your application is sitting on your desktop, you have to double-click it to activate it. However, if it's in the dock, you single-click it. I missed my Apple Menu for a very short period of time before the dock became VERY intuitive. Give it a try, Claire Thanks Laurent, and Aaron. That's to bad Apple left that out. I'll take a look at the options you mentioned. Dean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Linksys WUSB54G 802.11g adapter
Any thoughts about getting a Linksys WUSB54G 802.11g adapter to run on my Pismo, either under OSX or OS9? Trick seems to be that this thingy connects to the USB port, no drivers, etc. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? because one refers to the Mac keyboard, and the other to what this key is called on other systems. I also believe that the alt designation is inconsistent... It's above the railway symbol, suggesting that it requires shifting to activate. Why couldn't the two symbols be put next to each other, like on the command key? Likely because the key is smaller physically than the command key, and it would come out 'optionalt'. At least it is on my old Sawtooth-era keyboard. (it also says Option and Alt...no 'railway' symbol. That symbol is also not on current G5 keyboards, either, which really sucks, since that make the menu designation completely unintelligible.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:00 AM, larry Zasitko wrote: I to use CodeTek VirtualDesktop and it is a great program and should be on everyones 'get' list There's also a free alternative Desktop Manager which I use on my screen-challeneged desktop http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/index.php Despite it being 'alpha' software, I've used it daily for months and months, with no problems whatsoever. Requires 10.3. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha r acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? because one refers to the Mac keyboard, and the other to what this key is called on other systems. I beg to disagree. Apple/cloverleaf/command key has three official designations, neither of which appears on any PC systems. Function-wise, Apple's Alt has nothing to do with Windows' Alt, etc. Even if your argument was true, what would be the reason to do that? Likely because the key is smaller physically than the command key, and it would come out 'optionalt'. At least it is on my old Sawtooth-era keyboard. (it also says Option and Alt...no 'railway' symbol. That symbol is also not on current G5 keyboards, either, which really sucks, since that make the menu designation completely unintelligible.) That's exactly my point... It just seems to be a big mess to me. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
On 1/4/05 10:32 AM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant to type in the option key but instead typed in Apple and Cmd keys which are one in the same. This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? Hi Marcin, I know what you are saying but this really was just a case of being exhausted at the time I wrote the note and not catching my error before I sent it. :-) Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)
I know what you are saying but this really was just a case of being exhausted at the time I wrote the note and not catching my error before I sent it. :-) Got it. :) I still wish (think) it could (should) be as simple as it once was... http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/about/portfolio/posters/ macintosh20yearslater/pics/04 (by the way, what did the original Option key morph into?) Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Linksys WUSB54G 802.11g adapter
Why not get a real airport card, with the antennas in the screen the Pismo gets terrific wifi range, far better than my 12 Aluminum. Andrew On 1/4/05 12:41 PM, Frank Cornew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts about getting a Linksys WUSB54G 802.11g adapter to run on my Pismo, either under OSX or OS9? Trick seems to be that this thingy connects to the USB port, no drivers, etc. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
No way would I ever subject my laptop to a group of teens, nor would I ever drive a Suburban for that matter. Andrew On 1/4/05 12:47 PM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On 1/4/05 12:47 PM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) I wouldn't trade my 17-inch 1.33GHz for TWO 12-inch powerbooks. If I wanted a PDA I would buy a PDA...(or use a 2400 or a Newton). Kyle Hansen -- The best way out is always through. -- Robert Frost -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ram In a Wallstreet/300Mhz
Hi Pete You Should not have any problem. I have a Wallstreet II 233 Mhz with 512 ram and $0 Gb HD running 10.1.5. Just make sure it is low profile and the correct density of chips. I was lucky with mine as a fellow lister (The Powerbook Fanatic) checked compatibility for me before sending them. When installed they were identified in system profiler and I have had no problem since. I have been given OS 10.2 for Christmas so I hope the installation of this will go as smoothly as 10.1 and its upgrades did. John Abraham. UK. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:22:35 -0800 (PST) From: PETE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ram in a Wallstreet/300 MHz I have 384 built-in-memory in my wallstreet; 128 MB bottom slot and 256 MB top slot. Can I put a 256 MB stick on the bottom slot without problems? TIA, PETE. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire Hm..that sounds more than a bit risky - having a group of hyped kids messing around with a $4,000 + computer and jostling it around between them. Yikes ! :-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Touchup paint for the Ti-book
Hi list- I was wondering if anyone has experience using the touch up paint for the Ti-book chipping syndrome. I just purchased the paint and before I use it I would like to make sure that it is done as well as it can be. The chipping on the front top edge of the machine has a rough, blistered surface. Has anyone tried sanding it down (lightly with a very fine grit) being careful of course, not to get dust between the keys? And is the paint any good? I already made the purchase but I guess that one of my daughters could paint her toe nails with it. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Touchup paint for the Ti-book
Hey Dan, A simple search on Goggle reveals this. Check it out. http://www.welovemacs.com/0155044349.html -- Aaron Willems Hi list- I was wondering if anyone has experience using the touch up paint for the Ti-book chipping syndrome. I just purchased the paint and before I use it I would like to make sure that it is done as well as it can be. The chipping on the front top edge of the machine has a rough, blistered surface. Has anyone tried sanding it down (lightly with a very fine grit) being careful of course, not to get dust between the keys? And is the paint any good? I already made the purchase but I guess that one of my daughters could paint her toe nails with it. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ram in a Wallstreet
I'm running 9.1 I guess this is the problem. In 9.1 I see no memory options, little arrows or more info in the profiler Thanks, Cliff Right, Apple System Profiler, tells me my built in memory, but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each chip. I guess one has to open it up. Cliff Which OS are you running? If it's Panther, you go to the apple menuabout this Mac. When the little window opens telling you about your Mac, you click on 'more info.' The system profile window comes up and you would click on memory where it tells you what you have where. I don't believe Jag did this, however. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Jaguar Install on Wallstreet
Timothy Domst said: The conventional wisdom is that cheap RAM sticks often cause bad OSX installs, if you have a doubt about a stick then take it out for the install and put it in after. No no, not this time. this is a known wallstreet condition and can be solved by rebooting once into OS 9, (in some cases also sleeping the machine there) and then boot back again into OS X. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Clamshell iBook battery problems
Anyone in the Central Ohio area have a clamshell iBook that I could test my batteries in, or let me try your battery in mine? I have two batteries, and despite trying everything I can find to resurrect them, they seem to be dead. I want to confirm that I have two bad batteries, and not a bad laptop. I have been unable to get the batteries to respond, despite trying several different suggestions, including: From the Apple website: Resetting PowerBook and iBook Power Management Unit (PMU). This had no apparent effect on the batteries. I installed SlimBatteryMonitor. It tells me that the battery is charging, but stays at 0%. After a few minutes, it says Power source not present. I also followed the suggestions at: http://www.macintouch.com/laptopbatt.html Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Wade -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Clamshell iBook battery problems
Wade, Call me @ 538-0213 in a few minutes. I live near the MicroCenter on Bethel Rd. Shawn On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Wade Dunham wrote: Anyone in the Central Ohio area have a clamshell iBook that I could test my batteries in, or let me try your battery in mine? I have two batteries, and despite trying everything I can find to resurrect them, they seem to be dead. I want to confirm that I have two bad batteries, and not a bad laptop. I have been unable to get the batteries to respond, despite trying several different suggestions, including: From the Apple website: Resetting PowerBook and iBook Power Management Unit (PMU). This had no apparent effect on the batteries. I installed SlimBatteryMonitor. It tells me that the battery is charging, but stays at 0%. After a few minutes, it says Power source not present. I also followed the suggestions at: http://www.macintouch.com/laptopbatt.html Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Wade -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Uninstalling application
Unless Adobe has an uninstaller, you'll have to go into ~/Library/Preferences and delete the prefs manually. Try trashing the prefs first, that could well solve the launching problem. I've often resorted to this, doing a command/F in the Finder using the name of any application (freeware/shareware) that I have installed and decided I don't like/want to keep, then trashing all the files that show up. I often wonder, however, if they place any sort of invisible file(s) in the system that won't show when you search for it using the command/F method. Anyone know for sure? bob -- They sound like sheep being microwaved. Tony Kornheiser on karaoke. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet loses settings
Here's my problem. I installed 10.3 on a WS 1/233 with 288MB desktop. It booted into it just fine; would sleep and wake just fine; the video wouldn't white out. It seemed pretty stable. I shut down after a day, allowing it to shut down and restart per a schedule I set. Everything worked fine. After using it for a time, I shut down for a whole day. When I restarted the darn thing booted into 9.2. Now it boots into 9 all the time. To get to 10 I have a ritual I have to go through. Boot into 9, try to reset the start disk, freeze, restart into 9, reset the start up disk, restart. It has done this consistently for three days now. Yesterday the date and time reset. It holds the time when it finally boots into 10, but looses it when it boots into 9. Would only the PRAM battery be the culprit of all this quirkiness? A. M. G. D. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Uninstalling application
Hello Bob, In the Finder Search Window, click the Arrows at the left Hand end of the Search Field Box and select Visibility, then in the right hand window select Visible and Invisible Items, now click the + at the right hand side and a new search field window Opens, here select Item and enter the item name you are searching for. Leave Visible and Invisible in the search window all the time, to cover all the OS X items that are invisible in the Finder, unless you use Tinker Tool or Cocktail or similar to show Invisible Items. - Geoff WALLACE Melbourne Victoria Australia Mobile 0412 056 033 Sent on a G5 Power Macintosh using Entourage version 11.1.0 Buy a Mac and be thought a fool or buy a Windows box and remove all doubt. On 5/1/05 2:38 PM, bobgir2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless Adobe has an uninstaller, you'll have to go into ~/Library/Preferences and delete the prefs manually. Try trashing the prefs first, that could well solve the launching problem. I've often resorted to this, doing a command/F in the Finder using the name of any application (freeware/shareware) that I have installed and decided I don't like/want to keep, then trashing all the files that show up. I often wonder, however, if they place any sort of invisible file(s) in the system that won't show when you search for it using the command/F method. Anyone know for sure? bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet loses settings
on 04/01/05 22:40, James Sanderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my problem. I installed 10.3 on a WS 1/233 with 288MB desktop. It booted into it just fine; would sleep and wake just fine; the video wouldn't white out. It seemed pretty stable. I shut down after a day, allowing it to shut down and restart per a schedule I set. Everything worked fine. After using it for a time, I shut down for a whole day. When I restarted the darn thing booted into 9.2. Now it boots into 9 all the time. To get to 10 I have a ritual I have to go through. Boot into 9, try to reset the start disk, freeze, restart into 9, reset the start up disk, restart. It has done this consistently for three days now. Yesterday the date and time reset. It holds the time when it finally boots into 10, but looses it when it boots into 9. Would only the PRAM battery be the culprit of all this quirkiness? A. M. G. D. It is quite possible, since the startup disk I believe is stored in the PRAM along the date and time used by OS 9. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bug-compatible adj.: [common] Said of a design or revision that has been badly compromised by a requirement to be compatible with fossils or misfeatures in other programs or (esp.) previous releases of itself. MS-DOS 2.0 used \ as apath separator to be bug-compatible with some cretin's choice of / as an option character in 1.0. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Oh mega crap
At the advice of the apple genius at the local apple store I did a complete clean reinstall of OS X. Fast forward I took my iPod and plugged it in, it loaded iTunes, and thinking this would be a simple matter, when it asked if i wanted to change the library on the iPod to link it to the new iTunes library I foolishly said yes, assuming it would sync the two libraries. Now my damn iPod is empty. Is there a way to regain what was lost without reloading all those friggin cds? TIA, Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Oh mega crap
On 1/4/05 9:19 PM, Brian Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: At the advice of the apple genius at the local apple store I did a complete clean reinstall of OS X. Fast forward I took my iPod and plugged it in, it loaded iTunes, and thinking this would be a simple matter, when it asked if i wanted to change the library on the iPod to link it to the new iTunes library I foolishly said yes, assuming it would sync the two libraries. Now my damn iPod is empty. Is there a way to regain what was lost without reloading all those friggin cds? Nope. If you hadn't linked it to your new (empty) library you would have hope. There are programs that will suck the songs off of a full iPod, but not after it is erased...like yours is. Kyle Hansen -- The best way out is always through. -- Robert Frost -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Oh mega crap
Well that's just dandy. Absofreakinlutely dandy. Thanks, Brian On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:49 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 1/4/05 9:19 PM, Brian Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: At the advice of the apple genius at the local apple store I did a complete clean reinstall of OS X. Fast forward I took my iPod and plugged it in, it loaded iTunes, and thinking this would be a simple matter, when it asked if i wanted to change the library on the iPod to link it to the new iTunes library I foolishly said yes, assuming it would sync the two libraries. Now my damn iPod is empty. Is there a way to regain what was lost without reloading all those friggin cds? Nope. If you hadn't linked it to your new (empty) library you would have hope. There are programs that will suck the songs off of a full iPod, but not after it is erased...like yours is. Kyle Hansen -- The best way out is always through. -- Robert Frost -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:04 AM, G-Books wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:26:32 -0800 Subject: Re: screen sizes vs. reality From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] One surprising thing on the 12 is the quality of the sound from the built-in speakers. When I'm in a hotel room the sound is good enough when watching DVD movies that I rarely bother with headphones. I've not tried the sound in the 15 or 17, but in comparison the sound on the Pismo is downright wimpy, as is that on my friend's TiBook and my coworker's current generation 14 iBook. Andrew I'd have to disagree with that oneI think the Lombard/Pismo has the best sounding speakers, and certainly the most volume out of all the recent Powerbooks. I have a Tibook and an iBook, my wife uses a Pismo and it's a lot richer sound than my two 'books. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Apple menu additions
Hi Claire I use the Dock to open all my applications and I'm very happy with it. I just like the hierarchy part of the apple menu in the earlier OS's. It's just a faster way to get to things that are not used as often. I downloaded Classic Menu from the Version Tracker site. It's very simple and works great. By the way, does anyone remember Now Utilities? Isn't that where Apple got the idea in the first place? Dean Claire Hart wrote: Dean, The nice thing about using the dock is that it's a one-click operation. In OS 9's Apple Menu, you clicked the apple, went down to whatever you were choosing and clicked again. (Or was it click the apple, drag to the intended item, and then release? Or was that OS 7? Oh, well.) Even in OSX, if your application is sitting on your desktop, you have to double-click it to activate it. However, if it's in the dock, you single-click it. I missed my Apple Menu for a very short period of time before the dock became VERY intuitive. Give it a try, Claire Thanks Laurent, and Aaron. That's to bad Apple left that out. I'll take a look at the options you mentioned. Dean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Oh mega crap
No. On 4 Jan 2005 at 23:19, Brian Rule wrote: At the advice of the apple genius at the local apple store I did a complete clean reinstall of OS X. Fast forward I took my iPod and plugged it in, it loaded iTunes, and thinking this would be a simple matter, when it asked if i wanted to change the library on the iPod to link it to the new iTunes library I foolishly said yes, assuming it would sync the two libraries. Now my damn iPod is empty. Is there a way to regain what was lost without reloading all those friggin cds? TIA, Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
The 12 Aluminum's speakers actually have midrange and something almost passing for bass, and sound far richer, at about the same vollume as those of the Pismo. I am comparing them side by side, and the Pismo's 2 speakers don't come close to the sound provided by the 12 Al's 3 (2 regular and one midrange that Apple misnames a subwoofer). Andrew On 4 Jan 2005 at 22:08, Jeff Hubatka wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:04 AM, G-Books wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:26:32 -0800 Subject: Re: screen sizes vs. reality From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] One surprising thing on the 12 is the quality of the sound from the built-in speakers. When I'm in a hotel room the sound is good enough when watching DVD movies that I rarely bother with headphones. I've not tried the sound in the 15 or 17, but in comparison the sound on the Pismo is downright wimpy, as is that on my friend's TiBook and my coworker's current generation 14 iBook. Andrew I'd have to disagree with that oneI think the Lombard/Pismo has the best sounding speakers, and certainly the most volume out of all the recent Powerbooks. I have a Tibook and an iBook, my wife uses a Pismo and it's a lot richer sound than my two 'books. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---