Re: Airport Alternatives
At 6:13 PM -0500 3/21/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: I am using old Roamabout cardbus cards (OEM orinoco) from Wegener for $27. They only come with OS9 drivers (that work fine for OS9) but for OSX you have to download an OSX driver from ioXperts. The driver costs $20 per card and the serial number for the driver is portable from computer to computer, but not card to card. The OSX driver works just great. There is also the OS X driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver/. It's kind of no frills but it's free. I got the old slow b protocol because I was more concerned with range. I got a cardbus card because I have a 550 tiBook with reputedly horrible internal antenna and so I wanted the external antenna.All of the 11(b) equipment is really cheap now because nobody but us LowEndLuddites want it. LowEndMac user yes but a Luddite of any sort, no. I use the older model Asante b wireless router with the 2 antennas. I put the router high on the wall in the center of my old house that has a lot of wire mesh in the lath. My range from the Asante router to my tiBook is in excess of 250 feet outdoors. I have the same situation with stucco exterior walls. I've got one location inside the house that goes through two exterior walls to get to the router. I originally used a SMC Barricade wireless router which wouldn't work through those walls. The Belkin router I have now does work to that location. I bought a D-Link 614+ wireless router here in my office and it works fine for some things, but it does not support appletalk packets. If you buy a D-Link product, better check this out. They sometimes say they are Mac compatible (and they are at the TCP-IP level) but you have to read the fine print to see which of their products support Appletalk---if you have old machines or printers and need it. Neither of the routers I bought support AppleTalk although IIRC they both claim to. The SMC almost did, it would pass the Zone info but I couldn't access anything. The Belkin seems to only support on the LAN which pretty much any of them will. You have to be careful when checking for that issue. For print servers, many of the old Asante routers have a print server port that used to only work with Windows or Postscript Printers, but now it works with OSX.3. on some other printers--depending on the driver and whether the printer has a parallel port. I just set up an HP 5850. It works wired or Wireless and is IP so the lack of AppleTalk isn't an issue. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
So does the driver in the link below work with any wireless card? I mean is is generic? I have 2 802.11b wireless cards that I've used in my PC laptops, and one 802.11g that I'd really like to be able to use. Rad... - Original Message - From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Airport Alternatives At 6:13 PM -0500 3/21/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: I am using old Roamabout cardbus cards (OEM orinoco) from Wegener for $27. They only come with OS9 drivers (that work fine for OS9) but for OSX you have to download an OSX driver from ioXperts. The driver costs $20 per card and the serial number for the driver is portable from computer to computer, but not card to card. The OSX driver works just great. There is also the OS X driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver/. It's kind of no frills but it's free. I got the old slow b protocol because I was more concerned with range. I got a cardbus card because I have a 550 tiBook with reputedly horrible internal antenna and so I wanted the external antenna.All of the 11(b) equipment is really cheap now because nobody but us LowEndLuddites want it. LowEndMac user yes but a Luddite of any sort, no. I use the older model Asante b wireless router with the 2 antennas. I put the router high on the wall in the center of my old house that has a lot of wire mesh in the lath. My range from the Asante router to my tiBook is in excess of 250 feet outdoors. I have the same situation with stucco exterior walls. I've got one location inside the house that goes through two exterior walls to get to the router. I originally used a SMC Barricade wireless router which wouldn't work through those walls. The Belkin router I have now does work to that location. I bought a D-Link 614+ wireless router here in my office and it works fine for some things, but it does not support appletalk packets. If you buy a D-Link product, better check this out. They sometimes say they are Mac compatible (and they are at the TCP-IP level) but you have to read the fine print to see which of their products support Appletalk---if you have old machines or printers and need it. Neither of the routers I bought support AppleTalk although IIRC they both claim to. The SMC almost did, it would pass the Zone info but I couldn't access anything. The Belkin seems to only support on the LAN which pretty much any of them will. You have to be careful when checking for that issue. For print servers, many of the old Asante routers have a print server port that used to only work with Windows or Postscript Printers, but now it works with OSX.3. on some other printers--depending on the driver and whether the printer has a parallel port. I just set up an HP 5850. It works wired or Wireless and is IP so the lack of AppleTalk isn't an issue. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Airport Alternatives Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:22:28 -0600 So does the driver in the link below work with any wireless card? I mean is is generic? I have 2 802.11b wireless cards that I've used in my PC laptops, and one 802.11g that I'd really like to be able to use. Rad... - Original Message - From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Airport Alternatives At 6:13 PM -0500 3/21/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: There is also the OS X driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver/. It's kind of no frills but it's free. It works on some cards and not others. It also works for some people and not others, even with the same cards. I tried it with a Proxim Harmony card and couldn't get it to work, even with multiple re-installs of the software (that's one of the trouble shooting tips). The card would work with the IOxperts driver, but I didn't know if it was worth another $20 to me. I have also used the sourceforge driver with a WaveLAN Gold card in my Titanium, it works fine when I'm out of Airport range, which is only about 30 feet. Basically, you can install either driver and try them out. The IOxperts one will work for 30 minutes at a time, so you can see if that's a possible solution for you. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
At 12:22 PM -0600 3/22/04, Rad Craig wrote: So does the driver in the link below work with any wireless card? I mean is is generic? I have 2 802.11b wireless cards that I've used in my PC laptops, and one 802.11g that I'd really like to be able to use. Not any but a lot. Check the website for details. Rad... - Original Message - From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Airport Alternatives At 6:13 PM -0500 3/21/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: I am using old Roamabout cardbus cards (OEM orinoco) from Wegener for $27. They only come with OS9 drivers (that work fine for OS9) but for OSX you have to download an OSX driver from ioXperts. The driver costs $20 per card and the serial number for the driver is portable from computer to computer, but not card to card. The OSX driver works just great. There is also the OS X driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessdriver/. It's kind of no frills but it's free. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
I am using old Roamabout cardbus cards (OEM orinoco) from Wegener for $27. They only come with OS9 drivers (that work fine for OS9) but for OSX you have to download an OSX driver from ioXperts. The driver costs $20 per card and the serial number for the driver is portable from computer to computer, but not card to card. The OSX driver works just great. I got the old slow b protocol because I was more concerned with range. I got a cardbus card because I have a 550 tiBook with reputedly horrible internal antenna and so I wanted the external antenna.All of the 11(b) equipment is really cheap now because nobody but us LowEndLuddites want it. I use the older model Asante b wireless router with the 2 antennas. I put the router high on the wall in the center of my old house that has a lot of wire mesh in the lath. My range from the Asante router to my tiBook is in excess of 250 feet outdoors. I bought a D-Link 614+ wireless router here in my office and it works fine for some things, but it does not support appletalk packets. If you buy a D-Link product, better check this out. They sometimes say they are Mac compatible (and they are at the TCP-IP level) but you have to read the fine print to see which of their products support Appletalk---if you have old machines or printers and need it. For print servers, many of the old Asante routers have a print server port that used to only work with Windows or Postscript Printers, but now it works with OSX.3. on some other printers--depending on the driver and whether the printer has a parallel port. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:04:58 -0600 Subject: Airport Alternatives From: Robert Greenstreet [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just received a G4 iBook and am planning to purchase wireless capability. Does anyone have any experience with alternatives to the AirPort Extreme card Apple recommends? Robert Greenstreet The only internal option for iBooks are the Apple cards. They don't have PCMCIA slots either, so if you want to try something different it would have to be a USB adapter, which I believe is questionable as far as Mac drivers. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:13:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Airport Alternatives From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 19/03/04 17:10, Hugo Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent, excuse me for getting on the subject, but i have had a Graphite Airport Base station that was a little Flaky and decided to replace it by a D-Link DI-614+ from the b family of wireless product. Nothing fancy and less than half of the price of my Graphite Base station. You configure it using your browser, and the phone support is fantastic, and i should also mention that it's valid for life, not 90 Days. Works with any Apple Airport Card. Great solution and the coverage is somewhat broader than the original Airport. work great under OSX and 9. Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. I have the D-Link router and a 16/600 also (great printer). The router doesn't pass AT wireless, but you can print to the 16/600 via IP, which is how I have it set up. You have to be in OS9 to use the Laserwriter utility to check/change the printer's IP address, but printing works fine via Airport in my TiBook. Well, as long as I'm within 30 feet of the router, since the reception is so poor on these. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Airport Alternatives
I just received a G4 iBook and am planning to purchase wireless capability. Does anyone have any experience with alternatives to the AirPort Extreme card Apple recommends? Robert Greenstreet -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Robert: I have an all Asante line-up. Their wireless card that was just introduced somewhere around December ... I believe it only works with OS X. My base station is an Asante product as well. Both have worked very well with Panther. B. Forbes On Mar 19, 2004, at 2:04 PM, Robert Greenstreet wrote: I just received a G4 iBook and am planning to purchase wireless capability. Does anyone have any experience with alternatives to the AirPort Extreme card Apple recommends? Robert Greenstreet --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
On 19/03/04 16:19, Bryan Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert: I have an all Asante line-up. Their wireless card that was just introduced somewhere around December ... I believe it only works with OS X. My base station is an Asante product as well. Both have worked very well with Panther. B. Forbes On Mar 19, 2004, at 2:04 PM, Robert Greenstreet wrote: I just received a G4 iBook and am planning to purchase wireless capability. Does anyone have any experience with alternatives to the AirPort Extreme card Apple recommends? How do you do the configuration of your base station? I'm looking to replace my older graphite base station, but I'm a bit concerned by 3rd party solutions in part because of compatibility issues. With an AirPort Base Station, you're almost always sure that Apple will provide the tools whenever the system changes or is updated... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Laurent, excuse me for getting on the subject, but i have had a Graphite Airport Base station that was a little Flaky and decided to replace it by a D-Link DI-614+ from the b family of wireless product. Nothing fancy and less than half of the price of my Graphite Base station. You configure it using your browser, and the phone support is fantastic, and i should also mention that it's valid for life, not 90 Days. Works with any Apple Airport Card. Great solution and the coverage is somewhat broader than the original Airport. work great under OSX and 9. Just my 2 cents. Hugo Trottier Editor The Digital Dispatch On 19-Mar-04, at 4:43 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 19/03/04 16:19, Bryan Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert: I have an all Asante line-up. Their wireless card that was just introduced somewhere around December ... I believe it only works with OS X. My base station is an Asante product as well. Both have worked very well with Panther. B. Forbes On Mar 19, 2004, at 2:04 PM, Robert Greenstreet wrote: I just received a G4 iBook and am planning to purchase wireless capability. Does anyone have any experience with alternatives to the AirPort Extreme card Apple recommends? How do you do the configuration of your base station? I'm looking to replace my older graphite base station, but I'm a bit concerned by 3rd party solutions in part because of compatibility issues. With an AirPort Base Station, you're almost always sure that Apple will provide the tools whenever the system changes or is updated... -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
On 19/03/04 17:10, Hugo Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent, excuse me for getting on the subject, but i have had a Graphite Airport Base station that was a little Flaky and decided to replace it by a D-Link DI-614+ from the b family of wireless product. Nothing fancy and less than half of the price of my Graphite Base station. You configure it using your browser, and the phone support is fantastic, and i should also mention that it's valid for life, not 90 Days. Works with any Apple Airport Card. Great solution and the coverage is somewhat broader than the original Airport. work great under OSX and 9. Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Not sure. Never done it. But what i do know is that they offer another model with a print server option: Ethernet and USB print sharing. regards Hugo Trottier Editor The Digital Dispatch On 19-Mar-04, at 5:13 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 19/03/04 17:10, Hugo Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent, excuse me for getting on the subject, but i have had a Graphite Airport Base station that was a little Flaky and decided to replace it by a D-Link DI-614+ from the b family of wireless product. Nothing fancy and less than half of the price of my Graphite Base station. You configure it using your browser, and the phone support is fantastic, and i should also mention that it's valid for life, not 90 Days. Works with any Apple Airport Card. Great solution and the coverage is somewhat broader than the original Airport. work great under OSX and 9. Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. -- Can't you configure that LW to use LPR? That should work with any TCP/IP-slash-LPR client (UNIX, Windows, Mac, whatever). Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
Andrew Kershaw wrote: Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. -- Can't you configure that LW to use LPR? That should work with any TCP/IP-slash-LPR client (UNIX, Windows, Mac, whatever). Peace, Drew Yo Drew or Laurent or Anyone... EQUIPMENT...Imac SE 400 Pismo 400 10.3.3 on both...also with Airport Graphite Base Station and Verizon DSL PROBLEMI have an Apple PLW NTR ll that I need to figure out how to hook up to the iMac so I can also use it wirelessly with the PismoI bought a Dayna Ethernet unit on LEM last fall but don't have the foggiest as to how to hook it up I was told that the NTR is an AppleTalk printer..I have used it with my Performa 5200 thru a serial cable connected to an AppleTalk(?) cable.. Regards and Thanks in advance... Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
On 19/03/04 18:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Kershaw wrote: Thanks for the head-up, Hugo. Does it support AppleTalk? I still have a LaserWriter 16/600PS which uses EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet), so I need to be able to print wirelessly... -Laurent. -- Can't you configure that LW to use LPR? That should work with any TCP/IP-slash-LPR client (UNIX, Windows, Mac, whatever). Peace, Drew Yo Drew or Laurent or Anyone... EQUIPMENT...Imac SE 400 Pismo 400 10.3.3 on both...also with Airport Graphite Base Station and Verizon DSL PROBLEMI have an Apple PLW NTR ll that I need to figure out how to hook up to the iMac so I can also use it wirelessly with the PismoI bought a Dayna Ethernet unit on LEM last fall but don't have the foggiest as to how to hook it up I was told that the NTR is an AppleTalk printer..I have used it with my Performa 5200 thru a serial cable connected to an AppleTalk(?) cable.. Mike, I don't know what is exactly a Dayna Ethernet, but what you need is an AppleTalk to Ethernet bridge, like the AsanteTalk (which has been discontinued a while ago). Basically, that bridge takes incoming AppleTalk packets on LocalTalk cabling (that your PLW uses) and encapsulate them on Ethernet, so they become EtherTalk packets. The bridge also does the reverse, it takes EtherTalk packets from Ethernet, removes the Ethernet coating and send them onto the LocalTalk cabling as simple AppleTalk packets. So, the device has one connector for LocalTalk and one connector for Ethernet. I had one that I used with my previous PLW NTR and I was able to see the printer from my Pismo wirelessly. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport Alternatives
On Mar 19, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Hugo Trottier wrote: Not sure. Never done it. But what i do know is that they offer another model with a print server option: Ethernet and USB print sharing. The Netgear wireless router that I mentioned before has 4 ethernet cable outputs as well. My network consists of the Tbook with an airport card, 4 macs and a hp laser printer... everything is accessible to everything else. I'm running 10.3.3 on the Tbook, 10.2.8, 9.2.2 and 7.5.(on a SE/30) on the other macs and can print to the laser printer from all and mount any drive. I also have a Netgear 4 port hub stuck in-between somewhere for the additional ports. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
From: Kent Wieland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. Kent (digest mode) Kent, I am using a Linksys Wireless router. I have a Lombard with a MacWireless pc card, an Ibook with an Airport card, an Imac with a Macwireless.com usb wireless adapter and a hardwired Mac 6116 and Starmax. Microcenter is having a sale on the Linksys so others probably do as well. No problems so far. The Linksys router is about the onl Mac they support. Don't get their car or anything else that requires drivers. Hope this helps, -- Mike Amato -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
Check out Macwireless.com.== MacWireless enables almost all Macintosh models to connect to a wireless network, no matter how old or new these machines may be. If you have a PowerBook 190, 5300, 2400; or if you have a desktop PCI system; or if you have a machine with a USB port such as an iMac, now you also can have a wireless network connection. I am using their pc card in my lombard and the usb adapter with an Imac, Both work flawlessly, have not had a problem. See them at=== http://www.macwireless.com/index.html -- Mike Amato -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. thanks, Kent (digest mode) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
I briefly owned a Wallstreet (used, had other problems and I traded it in); used it with an Orinoco/Agere card and an AirPort; from all I've heard, you should have no trouble using it with other Wi-Fi transmitters, too. Good luck! CM From: Kent Wieland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:52:08 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Subject: airport alternatives for Wallstreet? Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. thanks, Kent (digest mode) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Kent Wieland wrote: Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. NetGear MR814. Router, firewall, 4 port switch, wireless bridge. Mac support. Web-based configuration. Replaceable antenna. $30 rebate presently, net cost $30 if you got in on the Amazon deal last weekend, or $50 if you order today from Buy.com: http://www.buy.com/retail/clearance/dotd.asp?sku=70009914 I don't think there's anything better than the Airport card for an Apple laptop, so I recommend that. KeS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
I don't think there's anything better than the Airport card for an Apple laptop, so I recommend that. KeS The great tragedy being that Wallstreets don't accept Airport cards (how I wish they did) I've used an orinoco gold under 9.2 and it worked beautifully, haven't tried any cards under 10.2.2 yet, any recommendations there? (and do you absolutely have to use the wirelessdriver.sourceforge.net driver for all pc card solutions?) -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
Andrew Johnson wrote: I don't think there's anything better than the Airport card for an Apple laptop, so I recommend that. KeS The great tragedy being that Wallstreets don't accept Airport cards (how I wish they did) I've used an orinoco gold under 9.2 and it worked beautifully, haven't tried any cards under 10.2.2 yet, any recommendations there? (and do you absolutely have to use the wirelessdriver.sourceforge.net driver for all pc card solutions?) I Just got this in my mailbox from Developers Depot: a MacSense 802.11b card with OS9 and OSX (Including Jag) fior $79. http://www.devdepot.com/wireless.html?from=ds_aer -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
On Tuesday, Nov 19, 2002, at 18:16 US/Eastern, Kevin Stevens wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Kent Wieland wrote: Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. NetGear MR814. Router, firewall, 4 port switch, wireless bridge. Mac support. Web-based configuration. Replaceable antenna. $30 rebate presently, net cost $30 if you got in on the Amazon deal last weekend, or $50 if you order today from Buy.com: Caveat to the use of an MR814, trouble with AppleTalk. There is a thread on the Dealmac forum: http://dealmac.com/forums/read.html?f=1i=949153t=948104 I am using the Netgear MR314, works with Appletalk. I used a Orinoco Silver with my Wallstreet, Airport drivers work with OS 9, open source drivers for OS X. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: airport alternatives for Wallstreet?
On Tuesday, Nov 19, 2002, at 22:01 US/Eastern, Mick Ring wrote: on 11/19/02 15:16, Kevin Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetGear MR814. Router, firewall, 4 port switch, wireless bridge. Mac support. Web-based configuration. Replaceable antenna. $30 rebate presently, net cost $30 if you got in on the Amazon deal last weekend, or $50 if you order today from Buy.com: The Netgear is a great deal but the model number is MR314, I believe. -Mick -- There is a MR814 as well as a MR314. They are functionally similar. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re - Airport alternatives.
I have a non Appletalk unit I bought from the manufacturer (Pheecom) here in Taiwan, which works well as internet router. However I need the Appletalk so will change soon. I notice SMC Barricade is $80 with rebate (yanks only, dammit) at tiger direct. SMC claims an amazing 1155 ft range, (albeit at lower data rate) vs others 100 foot range, so I might buy it here at about $115 equivalent. Anybody have good / bad experience with this unit? TIA, Stuart. On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:30 , (G-Books) wrote: Has anyone had success using any of the Airport-alternatives, such as D-link, etc...? I'm interested in setting up a wireless network for my Imac and Wallstreet from my cable modem. Ideally, I'd like to get a combination access-point and router to connect the Imac directly via ethernet and the Wallstreet by PC Card. Could anyone recommend brands/models for both the access-point/router and PC card? BTW, I'm using OS 9.1 in both computers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---