Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz
Stardate 060210.20:17 -0600. A subspace message from Jason Long reads: Too late, I've already got one! smirk ... bastard :P I didn't realize that there were so few sold. I was a bit leery of Powerlogix as I'd read some of the upset customer reports on the xlr8yourmac database. From my experiences, Powerlogix made the best upgrades out of the lot. Sonnet, frankly, make shit. To pick a nit I'm pretty sure that Moore bought the G4/500 upgrade for his Pismo, not the G3/900. That's his personal machine - the wife has the G3/900. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz
On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:54 am, Geoffrey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the world's fastest Pismo upgrades? I know *I* for one am prepared to pay the premium, who's with me? Shall we petition the lovely lads at OWC with a last-chance group order? These upgrades were problematic when PowerLogix was shipping them (check out OWCs CPU upgrade database). I'd want to see some evidence that the bugs had been worked out before I'd consider ordering one. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a Kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz
Well ... some things just never cease to amaze me. Does anyone here have the incredibly good fortune to own the very rare PowerLogix BlueChip G3 Pismo 900 (yes, that's right, the sexiest machine Apple ever made can run at 900 MHz) CPU upgrade? No? Want one? Well, ya can't have one. Unless ... read on! It seems that when the lovely lads at OWC 'absorbed' PowerLogix (whom I swear made *THE* best CPU upgrades ever -- Sonnet make shite, by comparison) they merged their CPU upgrade lines, and the only Pismo upgrade they kept was the NewerTech G4/500 (PPC7510). BOOO!!! B *much raining of peanuts and hissing* BOO! Charles Moore mentions the launch of the BlueChips in his MacOpinion colums http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/04/04/13/index.html with a 900 MHz (750FX) and 1 GHz (750GX) available back in late April of 2004. Obviously *some* of them made it out the door, because Charles has one, and at least one person bought *two* because he's selling one on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/cp5hs ... and interestingly enough, the seller's upgrade features a third chp, the low(er) power 750GL. Man, my chin hit the floor, bounced four times and ran out the door screaming. Now, I can kinda understand why OWC decided to not continue the BlueChips, seeing as they already had the Newertech stuff, and the fact that the BlueChip 900 was US$349 against the NewerTech G4/500 at US$279 ... but *SURELY* when they took over they brought in whatever remained of the BlueChip kits!! If so ... Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the world's fastest Pismo upgrades? I know *I* for one am prepared to pay the premium, who's with me? Shall we petition the lovely lads at OWC with a last-chance group order? Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz
-- Original message -- From: Geoffrey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone here have the incredibly good fortune to own the very rare PowerLogix BlueChip G3 Pismo 900 (yes, that's right, the sexiest machine Apple ever made can run at 900 MHz) CPU upgrade? Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the world's fastest Pismo upgrades? Sounds like a winner to me... Let's do it. Henry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz
Too late, I've already got one! smirk I didn't realize that there were so few sold. I was a bit leery of Powerlogix as I'd read some of the upset customer reports on the xlr8yourmac database, but I got lucky with no problems and no delays once I'd decided not to wait for the just announced 1 GHz G3 chip, but to settle for the 900 MHz. It's no longer my primary computer as I bought a 20' iMac G5 1.8 a year ago for more screen space. But I just took it on the road for a couple of weeks and it did just fine although I was really wishing that I'd bought the damn Airport card. Aside from frying the modem and Ethernet ports in a series of lightning strikes a couple of years ago it runs great. To pick a nit I'm pretty sure that Moore bought the G4/500 upgrade for his Pismo, not the G3/900. Jason -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Powerlogix G3 Bluechip prohibits external video in PDQ?
According to the manual for the 500 Mhz G3 Bluechip from Powerlogix (soon 3 years old), this product is compatible with Powerbook G3 series 266mhz, that is a PDQ. Yet, after successfully running in an original Wallstreet (The seller tells me) and after running the flash utility on the PDQ, the machine boots up and run nicely, but external video doesn't work. This is very important for me. Any idea what could prevent external video from working with this processor card? Doesn't seem to be software or the OS, as OS X, OS 9 or boot CDs all display the same behaviour. Could it be that it need to be rezeroed before your run the flash utility again? How would I do that then? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo BlueChip Upgrade
Mark Edward Attew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I upgrade my Pismo to the 900MHz G3 and yes, the System Profiler reports that it is a 550Mhz G3, but the CPU Director utility that comes with it reports the 900MHz properly. FYI, PowerLogix has released a firmware patch that fixes this problem. http://powerlogix.com/support2/notices/bcg4pismo/index.html -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Pismo BlueChip Upgrade
Hello, Does anyone reading this newsletter, have any experience with upgrading a Pismo with the PowerLogix BlueChip processor? I ask because I've held the belief that the 400 Mhz Pismo and the 500 Mhz Pismo would have different final processor speeds, if the same chip was installed in each of them. I had thought the 400 Mhz Pismo wouldn't be as fast as the other version of Pismo. I'm now informed by a reliable source that my beliefs are incorrect. Will the system profiler be in error when calculating the processor speeds with that upgrade chip installed? Thanks. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo BlueChip Upgrade
I upgrade my Pismo to the 900MHz G3 and yes, the System Profiler reports that it is a 550Mhz G3, but the CPU Director utility that comes with it reports the 900MHz properly. Mark -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Opacki Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:32 PM To: G-Books Subject: Pismo BlueChip Upgrade Hello, Does anyone reading this newsletter, have any experience with upgrading a Pismo with the PowerLogix BlueChip processor? I ask because I've held the belief that the 400 Mhz Pismo and the 500 Mhz Pismo would have different final processor speeds, if the same chip was installed in each of them. I had thought the 400 Mhz Pismo wouldn't be as fast as the other version of Pismo. I'm now informed by a reliable source that my beliefs are incorrect. Will the system profiler be in error when calculating the processor speeds with that upgrade chip installed? Thanks. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous. My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5 out of a full charge. I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get better than 1.5 hours in their machines. I tried slowing the clock speed down, which you can do using a little application named CPU Director, but even slowing it down to 400MHz doesn't increase the battery life. Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some other way to improve the battery life? I've used Energy Saver to optimize for battery life, but this doesn't buy me too many minutes. Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:50:17AM -0700, Mark Edward Attew wrote: : : I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac : on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous. : : My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was : running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is : pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in : place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5 : out of a full charge. : : I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a : decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get : better than 1.5 hours in their machines. The iBooks have different, newer, and most likely more energy efficient hardware than your Pismo. : Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some : other way to improve the battery life? I prefer the extra battery. IMO, if a notebook can't stay on for at least 2 hours per battery, it's not worth buying in the first place. -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
Shane Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full. Volume, LCD brightness, etc. I do see less if I'm burning a CD or watching a DVD. I have the 900Mhz snow iBook. I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much. Without looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more wattage than the old one. Your battery was designed with the old processor in mind. Even running it at slower cycles, your probably still going to pull out more wattage than before. Actually, I'm pretty sure that the PPC750FX chip that PowerLogix uses for their Bluechip upgrades draws *less* power than the original PPC750--all else being equal. For the original poster: Is it possible that some power saving options got changed or reset during the upgrade? Resetting them and/or zapping the PRAM might help. Also, is this your original battery? If so, it's probably nearing the end of its usable life. Powerbook batteries usually degrade over time, but I've heard of a few cases where they seemed to go south rather abruptly--so it could just be a coincidence. If you know someone with a known good battery, it might be worth trying it out. Finally, have you contacted PowerLogix? -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous. My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5 out of a full charge. I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get better than 1.5 hours in their machines. I tried slowing the clock speed down, which you can do using a little application named CPU Director, but even slowing it down to 400MHz doesn't increase the battery life. Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some other way to improve the battery life? I've used Energy Saver to optimize for battery life, but this doesn't buy me too many minutes. Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full. Volume, LCD brightness, etc. I do see less if I'm burning a CD or watching a DVD. I have the 900Mhz snow iBook. I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much. Without looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more wattage than the old one. Your battery was designed with the old processor in mind. Even running it at slower cycles, your probably still going to pull out more wattage than before. On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 18:53 US/Eastern, Mark Edward Attew wrote: I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
It also depends on the revision of 750 is in the Bluechip versus on the original CPU card. The Powerbook G3s were pretty bad on the power-efficiency compared to the current G3 crop. Even the first-gen G4s had better power efficiency than the G3s the Lombard and Pismo came with. (Just working towards my next paycheck, wanting a Bluechip LS G4/500 for my Lombard) On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Shane Wolfe wrote: I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full. Volume, LCD brightness, etc. I do see less if I'm burning a CD or watching a DVD. I have the 900Mhz snow iBook. I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much. Without looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more wattage than the old one. Your battery was designed with the old processor in mind. Even running it at slower cycles, your probably still going to pull out more wattage than before. On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 18:53 US/Eastern, Mark Edward Attew wrote: I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
Yes. Forgot to mention that. The G3 750 that's in the 900Mhz iBook is a low power version. On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 20:05 US/Eastern, Krevnik wrote: It also depends on the revision of 750 is in the Bluechip versus on the original CPU card. The Powerbook G3s were pretty bad on the power-efficiency compared to the current G3 crop. Even the first-gen G4s had better power efficiency than the G3s the Lombard and Pismo came with. (Just working towards my next paycheck, wanting a Bluechip LS G4/500 for my Lombard) On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Shane Wolfe wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery
I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much. Without looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more wattage than the old one. Your battery was designed with the old processor in mind. Even running it at slower cycles, your probably still going to pull out more wattage than before. Well, that I'm _not_ sure of. Newer processors are typically more efficient than older ones - for instance, many 1400/603e owners that have upgraded to G3s have reported LONGER battery lives. Reducing the processor speed back down to 400MHz ought to have a notable difference in power consumption. Here's a silly question: Are you sure it's the same battery that you sent out with the computer? Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: powerlogix psimo bluechip upgrade
I've just upgraded my pismo with a powerlogix g3 900mhz processor. There are heat issues. The fan comes on and it did not with the original 500mhz processor. It seems as though the heatsink is not seated properly on the CPU itself or may be loose. I would remove the daughter card, remove the heatsink pad and clean both the CPU and heatsink surfaces again. Make sure they had removed the old heat transfer tape. Use isopropyl to clean both surfaces. Once clean apply some fresh thermal paste per the instructions given with the thermal paste. Align and place the 2 screws back in. Torque to approx. 5-7 ft-lbs of pressure. More important are the following two matters: My pismo reports that there is a problem with cache memory. Any ideas about the source of this? The powerlogix processor comes with a .5mb cache. The original pismo had a 1 mb cache. Is my pismo confused because of this? Is the source of reported problem referring to the L2 or L3 cache problem? The L2 is .5mb and is located on the cpu die. The original L2 cache which is on the board itself now revert to becoming L3 cache. The system may be confused this fact and not initialize properly. There is a cache setting utility cpudirector from powerlogix which can be had here: http://www.powerlogix.com/support2/cpudirector/index.html After checking the heatsink and reassembling everything I would drop the cpu speed and disable the L3 cache and see what happens with respect to the temperature and if you still get the cache error. If everyhting seems OK I would increase the CPU speed until you achieve the full 900MHz. If the fan doesn't turn back chances are you may have solved the problem. I've lost the use of my firewire and USB ports. Any conjectures on what could have happened and what could be done? Hmmm... The only thing I can think of right now is, make certain that the cpu daughter card itself is seated properly. i.e the 2 left side tabs are matched up in the slots and the daughter card itself is bottomed onto the main logic board connector. Since the Firewire and USB bridge path comes from the UNI-N chip located on the under side of the daughter card itself, I would also make certain that none of the pins on the daughter card mating connector or logic card mating connector did not get inadvertantly bent or crunched. Good luck, hope this helps some. Jack -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerLogix BlueChip Pismo G4/500 processor upgrade
Mark: Yup, tried that several times, didn't make any difference for me. It's fast now, though! ... Eric Just FYI. It may help to rebuild the database in Entourage. It can become rather bloated over time and cause it to be slow and unstable. To do this, simply hold down the Option key when starting up Entourage. You will be presented with a dialog box with info on rebuilding the database (this also works with Outlook Express). -Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerLogix BlueChip Pismo G4/500 processor upgrade
Tom: Don't know for sure, the Lombard is the one model of Powerbook we don't have (actually, we had one but it got stolen several years ago!). What I can tell you about the Pismo upgrade is that it is not completely done at the factory. You actually take the Pismo apart yourself and just ship PowerLogix the processor/heat sink assembly. They then upgrade it and ship it back to you and you reinstall this assembly back in your Pismo. I'll let someone else explain why the Lombard is done differently! ... Eric I've never really ujnderstood why the Powerlogix G4 500 Mhz for the Lombard is a user-install, while the Pismo upgrade requires the CPU board to go to Powerlogix. Is there some difference between the daughter boards that I'm missing? Tom Burke (who's got a 333 Lombard is therefore very interested in the Powerlogix upgrades) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerLogix BlueChip Pismo G4/500 processor upgrade
Tom Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've never really understood why the Powerlogix G4 500 Mhz for the Lombard is a user-install, while the Pismo upgrade requires the CPU board to go to Powerlogix. Is there some difference between the daughter boards that I'm missing? Yes. The Lombard (and Wallstreet, iirc) have a separate logic card that contains just the CPU, memory and ROM whereas the Pismo has a single logic board. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerLogix BlueChip Pismo G4/500 processor upgrade
I've never really ujnderstood why the Powerlogix G4 500 Mhz for the Lombard is a user-install, while the Pismo upgrade requires the CPU board to go to Powerlogix. Is there some difference between the daughter boards that I'm missing? Tom Burke (who's got a 333 Lombard is therefore very interested in the Powerlogix upgrades) On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 08:35 PM, Eric Morrison wrote: All I can say is Wow! This is a great, great product. (and no, I am not related to PowerLogix in any way, just a very, very satisfied customer). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PowerLogix BlueChip Pismo G4/500 processor upgrade
Eric Morrison on 3/26/03 3:35 PM wrote: I was getting really frustrated. Especially in Entourage, it would take forever just to refresh the interface after deleting an email. This was really, in the long run, unusable although I've been tolerating it for quite a while. Now, the updates are nearly instantaneous! Just FYI. It may help to rebuild the database in Entourage. It can become rather bloated over time and cause it to be slow and unstable. To do this, simply hold down the Option key when starting up Entourage. You will be presented with a dialog box with info on rebuilding the database (this also works with Outlook Express). -Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Bluechip Pismo upgrade rocks
on 11/6/02 11:39 PM, Hal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my Pismo back from Powerlogix today. The G4 upgrade rocks. I posted a full review to the CPU upgrades database on xlr8yourmac.com, if anyone wants to read it. So far, so good. It's noticeably faster than the G3/400 it replaced. Total turnaround time was 10 days, so they came through on their promise. If anyone's considering the upgrade, I give it a 10 out of 10. cheers, -Hal It is so great to hear some GOOD news on this topic... I really love my Pismo and am so glad that its FUNctional life will be extended. What/where is the URL of your review? For a non-techy type that website is kind of dense. Keep us posted. Ed Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Bluechip Pismo upgrade rocks
on 11/6/02 11:39 PM, Hal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my Pismo back from Powerlogix today. The G4 upgrade rocks. I posted a full review to the CPU upgrades database on xlr8yourmac.com, if anyone wants to read it. So far, so good. It's noticeably faster than the G3/400 it replaced. Total turnaround time was 10 days, so they came through on their promise. If anyone's considering the upgrade, I give it a 10 out of 10. Not wanting to be unduly negative here, but isn't a 10 out of 10 based on less than one day's usage a bit premature? TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Bluechip Pismo upgrade rocks
Ok, I spoke too soon. We're having issues. I'm working with Powerlogix to try to resolve them. I posted the initial review on xlr8yourmac.com. Go to the CPU Upgrade review and select Powerbook 200 (Firewire). Mine's the first review. The problem I'm having seems to have to do with power draw or heat. Everything works fine most of the time, but if I run it closed and hook up an external monitor and keyboard, it crashes within minutes, particularly if I'm running a game like UT. Hopefully they'll have some more info for me later today. -Hal On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 06:09 AM, ezelinsky wrote: on 11/6/02 11:39 PM, Hal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my Pismo back from Powerlogix today. The G4 upgrade rocks. I posted a full review to the CPU upgrades database on xlr8yourmac.com, if anyone wants to read it. So far, so good. It's noticeably faster than the G3/400 it replaced. Total turnaround time was 10 days, so they came through on their promise. If anyone's considering the upgrade, I give it a 10 out of 10. cheers, -Hal It is so great to hear some GOOD news on this topic... I really love my Pismo and am so glad that its FUNctional life will be extended. What/where is the URL of your review? For a non-techy type that website is kind of dense. Keep us posted. Ed Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Bluechip Pismo upgrade rocks
Here's an update on the upgrade. First of all, Powerlogix has been very responsive, getting back to me within hours each time I've emailed them. They had me pull the heatsink and remove the thermal pad and use Arctic Silver II (which I happen to have a tube of) and reattach the heatsink. The pismo is running ok when used alone, but when I connect an external monitor and keyboard and mouse, it crashes when playing the UT intro movie. It seems to be a heat related issue. After the crash, the cache software is reporting a cpu temp of over 52C. When the machine is cold (under 48C), it works fine, but after running for a while, it gets unstable. I'll post a follow-up when we figure out what to do next. On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 08:57 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: on 11/6/02 11:39 PM, Hal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my Pismo back from Powerlogix today. The G4 upgrade rocks. I posted a full review to the CPU upgrades database on xlr8yourmac.com, if anyone wants to read it. So far, so good. It's noticeably faster than the G3/400 it replaced. Total turnaround time was 10 days, so they came through on their promise. If anyone's considering the upgrade, I give it a 10 out of 10. Not wanting to be unduly negative here, but isn't a 10 out of 10 based on less than one day's usage a bit premature? TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Bluechip Pismo upgrade rocks
I just got my Pismo back from Powerlogix today. The G4 upgrade rocks. I posted a full review to the CPU upgrades database on xlr8yourmac.com, if anyone wants to read it. So far, so good. It's noticeably faster than the G3/400 it replaced. Total turnaround time was 10 days, so they came through on their promise. If anyone's considering the upgrade, I give it a 10 out of 10. cheers, -Hal -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 12:37 PM, hal9000x wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 12:33 PM, Hal wrote: Anyone here have their Pismo upgraded by Powerlogix? Care to share your experience? thanks, -Hal I'd also be interested in this. I am thinking of upgrading my Pismo 500 to the G4. Will Not a Pismo, but a PDQ Wallstreet. I dropped a G3 466 upgrade into it over a year ago. I would do it again in a heartbeat. YMMV. Phil Burk Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. 10475 Crosspoint Blvd Indianapolis, IN 46256 317.572.3049 phone 317.572.1049 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
Anyone here have their Pismo upgraded by Powerlogix? Care to share your experience? thanks, -Hal -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 12:33 PM, Hal wrote: Anyone here have their Pismo upgraded by Powerlogix? Care to share your experience? thanks, -Hal I'd also be interested in this. I am thinking of upgrading my Pismo 500 to the G4. Will -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
I have tried to upgrade my Wallstreet G3, but to no avail. I think the card was bad. I didn't even bother to get it replaced, since I had such a hard time dealing with tech support to begin with. If I were to do it over again, I would go with Sonnet Tech's Crescendo card. it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you can download the software needed to copy the flash ROM from the original processor right from their website. How do ya like dem apples, PowerLogix?! (Yeah, I'm aware of the irony.) On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 12:37 PM, hal9000x wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 12:33 PM, Hal wrote: Anyone here have their Pismo upgraded by Powerlogix? Care to share your experience? thanks, -Hal I'd also be interested in this. I am thinking of upgrading my Pismo 500 to the G4. Will -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 03:50 PM, John Fox wrote: I have tried to upgrade my Wallstreet G3, but to no avail. I think the card was bad. I didn't even bother to get it replaced, since I had such a hard time dealing with tech support to begin with. If I were to do it over again, I would go with Sonnet Tech's Crescendo card. it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you can download the software needed to copy the flash ROM from the original processor right from their website. How do ya like dem apples, PowerLogix?! (Yeah, I'm aware of the I checked Sonnettech out. I noticed that this is not an option for the Pismo. Bummer! It looks like Powerlogix is the only option Will -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Powerlogix Bluechip experiences
Not true, Newer Tech makes one as well. Same $300 price tag. On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 02:48 PM, hal9000x wrote: On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 03:50 PM, John Fox wrote: I have tried to upgrade my Wallstreet G3, but to no avail. I think the card was bad. I didn't even bother to get it replaced, since I had such a hard time dealing with tech support to begin with. If I were to do it over again, I would go with Sonnet Tech's Crescendo card. it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you can download the software needed to copy the flash ROM from the original processor right from their website. How do ya like dem apples, PowerLogix?! (Yeah, I'm aware of the I checked Sonnettech out. I noticed that this is not an option for the Pismo. Bummer! It looks like Powerlogix is the only option -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: BLUECHIP
Is anyone out there familiar with the PowerLogix Before you even go that far. Read this: http://www.macintouch.com/powerlogixblue.html People are still waiting. Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
Does this mean that I can exceed my Powerbooks specifications and move up to 512 without any negative reprocussions? Absolutely NOT. For example, I HAD a 256MB DIMM in my powerbook. It worked flawlessly with my previous Powerlogix card and with the Apple card. After receiving my replacement Powerlogix card (which was bad initially BTW), the 256MB RAM is no longer compatible. So even though it worked fine for 2 cards, all of a sudden it's out of spec which is totally @#$#%#@$ if you ask me. I don't believe it all of a sudden came out of spec. They were the WORST company I have ever dealt with. Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
--- Aron Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! That is the worst horror story I have ever heard. I feel so bad for you, Aron and the countless other people that PowerLogix have railroaded with this poor product. Even if they were to come out with a board that actually worked, I would not be a customer of theirs simply from the way they have handled your situation. I also think that OWC should have pulled the contract with PL. You cannot support people like these guys, and they should have to suffer the consequences for their negligence. I am sorry for all that you have gone through and I thank you for the timely information. MR Does this mean that I can exceed my Powerbooks specifications and move up to 512 without any negative reprocussions? Absolutely NOT. For example, I HAD a 256MB DIMM in my powerbook. It worked flawlessly with my previous Powerlogix card and with the Apple card. After receiving my replacement Powerlogix card (which was bad initially BTW), the 256MB RAM is no longer compatible. So even though it worked fine for 2 cards, all of a sudden it's out of spec which is totally @#$#%#@$ if you ask me. I don't believe it all of a sudden came out of spec. They were the WORST company I have ever dealt with. Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
That is the worst horror story I have ever heard. Well, maybe not the worst :-) Still bad though. I also think that OWC should have pulled the contract with PL. Maybe so... well, they said they have changed how they deal with Powerlogix. FWIW: Apparently Sonnet is better - they _did_ go through a round where they were putting lower clock rate marked chips on boards, but apparently this was a manufacturer marking and not indicative of the actual rated speed of the chip. whatever Anyway, Newer Tech is going back online - they had some cool products. Back to Powerlogix. After receiving my modded and fixed board, their attitude towards me changed radically. They insist that my RAM is out of spec even though it worked with their prior board(s) and the Apple Board. Actually I forgot, it's 3 to one. I had: Apple Board - RAM works. 1st Powerlogix board 466 - RAM works. 2nd Powerlogx Board RAM works. Last Powerlogix board - RAM does not work. Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
So does Newer Tech have a similar G4 board? My whole motivation is to get the most out of my Lombard before moving on to the latest and greatest apple has to offer. The new titanium G4's are really appealing to me, but if I can make my Lombard comprable for much less, I think I would like to go that route, first. MR --- Aron Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is the worst horror story I have ever heard. Well, maybe not the worst :-) Still bad though. I also think that OWC should have pulled the contract with PL. Maybe so... well, they said they have changed how they deal with Powerlogix. FWIW: Apparently Sonnet is better - they _did_ go through a round where they were putting lower clock rate marked chips on boards, but apparently this was a manufacturer marking and not indicative of the actual rated speed of the chip. whatever Anyway, Newer Tech is going back online - they had some cool products. Back to Powerlogix. After receiving my modded and fixed board, their attitude towards me changed radically. They insist that my RAM is out of spec even though it worked with their prior board(s) and the Apple Board. Actually I forgot, it's 3 to one. I had: Apple Board - RAM works. 1st Powerlogix board 466 - RAM works. 2nd Powerlogx Board RAM works. Last Powerlogix board - RAM does not work. Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
Michael Richardson wrote: So does Newer Tech have a similar G4 board? Newer has absolutely nothing more than a web site and the announcement they're back in business right now...They were just re-started up. OWC http://www.macsales.com are their exclusive sales reps right now... http://www.macnn.com/news.php?id=14414 (Nothing is up on the OWC web site that I could find, yet) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
Aron Nelson wrote: Is anyone out there familiar with the PowerLogix Before you even go that far. Read this: http://www.macintouch.com/powerlogixblue.html People are still waiting. OK the G3's were/are a problem, the first question was about the G4's... anyone have any stories on the G4 upgrades for Lombard's? Is it a good upgrade that works? OK their customer service is suspect too. but I have not had any problems with their ZIF carrier card I have in a 7500... -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ 6400/200 w/ Sonnet G3/300/1 eBay ID uwphotoer Live each day like it is your last because someday you'll be right. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: BLUECHIP
At this point, the people at PowerLogix couldn't sell me water if I were dying of thirst. I'll stick with my reliable 333MHz. MR --- Aron Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK the G3's were/are a problem, the first question was about the G4's... anyone have any stories on the G4 upgrades for Lombard's? Is it a good upgrade that works? Here is some things I got from this list: (g4 upgrade on fire? i spoke with someone an apple tech has informed me that there has been fire's caused by installing g4 upgrades in g3 PowerBook's that has architecture that can't support the higher temperature's or electrical flux of the g4 chip?) what does this mean? another wrote the following (This is not for public consumption but they haven't been able to pay us the money they owe us for ads we ran for them. They are very tight for cash so buyer beware. PowerLogix is actually having a ROM issue on these cards. We've worked on several that were defective, and they're having a delivery problem on the ROM control portion,, causing malfunctions. The units are coming very slowly because of this.) -- There was also a problem with: booting between OS 9 and OS X on separate partitions OK their customer service is suspect too Do I need to show you the discrepancies between customer/tech support and the president? Oh wait, the info is online. If you still think they are reputable and wish to purchase from them, go for it! Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet/Bluechip upgrade - memory limit???
I already have the upgrade - got it a couple months ago - so this isn't a feasible option for me, esp. since it sounds like the 256 chip (esp. if low-profile) will PROBABLY work. I'll report on the results in my case when I'm back from vacation order the memory. Anne Remy Davison wrote: Note that Sonnet Tech now offer a 500MHz WS CPU upgrade - available shortly. About $399 from the press release. Cheers, RD -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Enter to win a FREE Titanium G4 PowerBook! -- | CDRWs on Sale! | Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet/Bluechip upgrade - memory limit???
When I look for larger ram modules, I don't find any that spec for my Wallstreet 2. Whose specs are you using when you are ordering. I'm running a pair of 128s, top and bottom right now. jf on 07/22/2001 4:27 PM, James Eddy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/19/01 3:51 PM, Anne Judge at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Powerlogix officially says they support anything that's in the Apple specs for the Wallstreet, but that's max 192 MHz, one 128-MHz one 64-Mhz chip. I'd been hoping to try to put in one 256 in place of one of my 64s - I know that though they're not officially supported they often work in Wallstreets. But it didn't occur to me that I no longer have the orginal Apple processor card. So has anyone put in a PowerLogix BlueChip with more memory than that (either at the time of installation or added later)? DID IT WORK? I've been reading the reviews at XLR8yourmac. Most are very positive, and most have put larger memory modules in. It seems that you need to have a smaller profile chip in the top space for heat dissipation, so if you put in a 256K chip in the top slat, make it a low profile chip. -- Jim Eddy James Eddy Woodworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Princeton, NJ http://home.earthlink.net/~giametti/index.htm -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Enter to win a FREE Titanium G4 PowerBook! -- | CDRWs on Sale! | Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com