Re: Another Opinion wanted
On Thu, 26 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote: If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you the option for millions at 800? No dice! In x 10.3.9 with patched rage pro drivers the only options are thousands or 256 at1024x780. What about at 800x600? Don't you get a millions option? -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
There is no 800x600 option for the LCD monitor. I have not tried to pretend it has a crt monitor. There are several different color profiles which disappear when the check box specifying show for only this monitor is selected. What about at 800x600? Don't you get a millions option? -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote: 1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for millions at 800x600. Really? 2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600. I use to run my 7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some pics I would switch to 800 at millions. Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then I was 1024 the whole time at millions. If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you the option for millions at 800? -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Marshall Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:55 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: Another Opinion wanted On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote: 1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for millions at 800x600. Really? 2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600. I use to run my 7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some pics I would switch to 800 at millions. Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then I was 1024 the whole time at millions. If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you the option for millions at 800? No dice! In x 10.3.9 with patched rage pro drivers the only options are thousands or 256 at1024x780. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
Exactly. That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my friends Pismo. 'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :) The good thing is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option. 500MHz G4. What are you running the display at? 800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands. -- Nick Me ? I run at 1024x768 in thousands. The G4/500 has kind of a high price premium . Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Once upon a time (Thu May 19), Laurent Daudelin wrote: So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Once upon a time (Thu May 19), Robert Gruber wrote: I had a surprising experience with a Fluke digital multimeter; I spilled Transmission fluid on it, and it quit working. I had to buy another one. Several months later I put batteries in it and it works like the other one. My old Palm Pilot Pro was in a dry bag on a boat. A crew member opened the bag, and forgot to close it. This is a wet sailboat, the bag filled with water, and the cell phone and Palm inside were submerged. Both died. Took them apart to dry, the phone revived, but the Palm didn't. So, put it in a drawer and a couple years later, preparing to toss it out, put new batteries in it. It worked just fine. Sold it on Ebay. The voltage going through that motherboard circuitry isn't all that much. There may be no permanent damage. You could try taking it apart, and cleaning the motherboard with alcohol and/or distilled water. Dry the motherboard well, and after a couple days put it together. See what happens. Larry -- Lawrence Weeks[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anabasis Consulting Ltd -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
Nick Marshall wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote: Nick Marshall wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes for instance, go with the G3. The extra 100Mhz will make more of a difference in most operations. Plus it runs cooler. I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as elegantly. :) Exactly. That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my friends Pismo. 'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :) The good thing is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option. 500MHz G4. What are you running the display at? 800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands. 1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for millions at 800x600. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache? -Laurent. Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts. I am not sure what ratios you can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz. If I could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz. thanks, Mad Dog Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator? -Laurent. Ive seen the ratings, but they dont seem to talk about the difference between the two for running X. thanks, Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote: on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache? -Laurent. Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts. I am not sure what ratios you can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz. If I could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz. thanks, Mad Dog Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator? -Laurent. Ive seen the ratings, but they dont seem to talk about the difference between the two for running X. There is a 500MHz G4 available from Sonnet. That way you would get a G4 and 500MHz at the same time. Kinda pricey though. $350 at OWC. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
Nick Marshall wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes for instance, go with the G3. The extra 100Mhz will make more of a difference in most operations. Plus it runs cooler. I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as eleganly. :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote: Nick Marshall wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes for instance, go with the G3. The extra 100Mhz will make more of a difference in most operations. Plus it runs cooler. I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as eleganly. :) Exactly. That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my friends Pismo. 'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :) The good thing is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option. 500MHz G4. What are you running the display at? 800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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A cheap suggestion to protect your ibook in the future is to buy one of those keyboard protectors (e.g., iSkin); a thin film that sits on top of the ibook's keys. This way, if liquid spills over the ibook, it won't go inside. frank -- Laurent Daudelin wrote: snip So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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If you have liquids next to your computer, you will eventually have this type of problem, so don't do it! It is all so simple! After the fact no one really knows what part of the electronics have been effected so one extent of another, even though they seem to function properly now. I would try to fix it as inexpensively as possible and then dump it before some other issue comes up and then purchase another laptop. Tom On 5/23/05 1:53 PM, JF Arotxa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A cheap suggestion to protect your ibook in the future is to buy one of those keyboard protectors (e.g., iSkin); a thin film that sits on top of the ibook's keys. This way, if liquid spills over the ibook, it won't go inside. frank -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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frank: i had one of those from the time they came out. they are worth their price in platinum! it saved me from a not-too-careful friend. g On May 23, 2005, at 2:53 PM, JF Arotxa wrote: A cheap suggestion to protect your ibook in the future is to buy one of those keyboard protectors (e.g., iSkin); a thin film that sits on top of the ibook's keys. This way, if liquid spills over the ibook, it won't go inside. frank -- Laurent Daudelin wrote: snip So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Tom Ethen wrote: If you have liquids next to your computer, you will eventually have this type of problem, so don't do it! It is all so simple! I could not agree more, but just in case, an extra precaution is not bad, especially if it only cost you about $25. frank -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Another Opinion wanted
What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] foo /foo/ 1. interj. Term of disgust. 2. [very common] Used very generally as a sample name for absolutely anything, esp. programs and files (esp. scratch files). 3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in syntax examples. See also bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache? -Laurent. Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts. I am not sure what ratios you can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz. If I could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz. thanks, Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? thanks, Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache? -Laurent. Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts. I am not sure what ratios you can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz. If I could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz. thanks, Mad Dog Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BUAG // n.: [abbreviation, from alt.fan.warlord] Big Ugly ASCII Graphic. Pejorative term for ugly ASCII art, especially as found in sig blocks. For some reason, mutations of the head of Bart Simpson are particularly common in the least imaginative sig blocks. See warlording. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Another Opinion wanted
Someone will probably disagree with me but I say go for the G3 if you want to use Jaguar or the G4 if you want to use Panther. Panther is more G4 optimised... If you want to use Photoshop or apps like that, go for the G4.. On 24/05/2005, at 13:19, Nick Marshall wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote: What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ? Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes for instance, go with the G3. The extra 100Mhz will make more of a difference in most operations. Plus it runs cooler. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On May 19, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Dyna wrote: Apple markets the iBook to schools with the implied assurance that it is capable of withstanding the abuse school kids can deliver. I would thusly raise unholy hell with Apple and remind them that your family will personally lobby against any purchase of Apples by your school district, etc.. Hopefully Apple will realize that keeping your family as long term customers is more important than making a quick profit gouging you on repairs. Apple should not be held responsible for user irresponsibility. Liquid and electronics/electricity don't mix, never will. Apple (and by no stretch) and the rest of us responsible (that is pre-accident) users should not have to pay for their actions. Where does it stop: plastic or thin metal casing and concrete floors don't mix either. That said, please everyone, if you or you child or grandparent or aunt spills liquid in a laptop they should cut power to it right away: pull the AC and the battery and get to someone who can take the laptop apart to wash and dry it. The laptop may likely be revived in the future if the power is cut right away. We're only human so even with warnings about not drinking/eating around our PowerBooks, we still do it and we pay the consequences. Turtle-Bear -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Opinion wanted
I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. Back in September 2004, I purchased a 12, 1GHz iBook for my daughter. All was well and she was very happy. About a month ago, she called me and said that her iBook was suddenly acting strangely. I went over and noticed that the display would only show vertical, narrow colored lines on a black background. I think I posted to the list about what the problem could be. In anycase, I asked her what happened and she said nothing. I was a little suspicious because after having used a PowerBook for more than 3 years, I know that things cannot get wrong all of a sudden for no reason. I took the iBook, still under warranty, to the closest Apple store. The genius looked at it and said there was obviously something wrong with the main logic board and said they would have to send it to the Apple's repair facility. 3 days later, I've got an email from the Apple repair facility asking me to call them because they had discovered a problem. I knew that this wouldn't be good so I called my daughter immediately and told her what was happening and that before calling Apple, I wanted to have the truth. Sure enough, something wrong happened. She actually spilled water over the keyboard and since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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laurent: since you have the expertise, why don't you try to fix it yourself. from what i read, you need a motherboard and everything else seems to be working fine. have you checked the proces for those on ebay/swap list vs apple quote? how about an other repair company? good luck. g On May 19, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Opinion wanted
Well, the part will be hard to find on places like eBay, and pbparts.com doesn't even have anything that new listed yet. They have the 800Mhz logic board for about 650$, which means that the price being quoted by Apple is pretty close to what the part would cost through repair shops that will sell you the part by itself. My guess is that the cost without labor would be around 700$ for your particular model. Buying a used/refurbished one would cost about 800-900$, making it more expensive than Apple's repairs. All-in-all, you are in the worst possible position. The unit is too new to even reliably get parts for without scrapping another unit with a dead screen or something. Unfortunately, I only have three suggestions: 1) Pay Apple to get it to be repaired, since it will be cheaper than buying a used/new replacement. 2) Buy a used replacement unit, or a refurbished unit. A refurb 1.2Ghz iBook is 800$ from Apple right now (I just checked their website). 3) Don't get her another laptop for awhile, and then pick option #2. Rather harsh, but an option. I am sorry for your situation, as it quite honestly is grim, since the cost to get the parts is quite high. I have been in that boat before, dropping a Lombard that I had sunk 800$ into over a period of 8 months to have it dropped and the screen crack (while going to college on a shoestring budget!). I hope for the best in your situation. - Adam -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurent Daudelin Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:55 PM To: G-Books Subject: Opinion wanted I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. Back in September 2004, I purchased a 12, 1GHz iBook for my daughter. All was well and she was very happy. About a month ago, she called me and said that her iBook was suddenly acting strangely. I went over and noticed that the display would only show vertical, narrow colored lines on a black background. I think I posted to the list about what the problem could be. In anycase, I asked her what happened and she said nothing. I was a little suspicious because after having used a PowerBook for more than 3 years, I know that things cannot get wrong all of a sudden for no reason. I took the iBook, still under warranty, to the closest Apple store. The genius looked at it and said there was obviously something wrong with the main logic board and said they would have to send it to the Apple's repair facility. 3 days later, I've got an email from the Apple repair facility asking me to call them because they had discovered a problem. I knew that this wouldn't be good so I called my daughter immediately and told her what was happening and that before calling Apple, I wanted to have the truth. Sure enough, something wrong happened. She actually spilled water over the keyboard and since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com
Re: Opinion wanted
was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. At this point, Apple has made notes in their system that the notebook has had liquid spilled into it. I think the value of your warranty is pretty much up because of that. I'd try and source a logic board for it and fix it yourself. That or give it back to your daughter and tell her the repair costs and let her learn from this experience. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 19/05/05 16:40, Steve Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. At this point, Apple has made notes in their system that the notebook has had liquid spilled into it. I think the value of your warranty is pretty much up because of that. I'd try and source a logic board for it and fix it yourself. That or give it back to your daughter and tell her the repair costs and let her learn from this experience. Thanks, Steve. I didn't mention it but she will definitely have to pay for it and I hope it will be a good learning experience, specially after I told her many times to not bring food and beverages around the computer... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Opinion wanted
On 19/05/05 16:36, Adam Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the part will be hard to find on places like eBay, and pbparts.com doesn't even have anything that new listed yet. They have the 800Mhz logic board for about 650$, which means that the price being quoted by Apple is pretty close to what the part would cost through repair shops that will sell you the part by itself. My guess is that the cost without labor would be around 700$ for your particular model. Buying a used/refurbished one would cost about 800-900$, making it more expensive than Apple's repairs. All-in-all, you are in the worst possible position. The unit is too new to even reliably get parts for without scrapping another unit with a dead screen or something. Unfortunately, I only have three suggestions: 1) Pay Apple to get it to be repaired, since it will be cheaper than buying a used/new replacement. 2) Buy a used replacement unit, or a refurbished unit. A refurb 1.2Ghz iBook is 800$ from Apple right now (I just checked their website). 3) Don't get her another laptop for awhile, and then pick option #2. Rather harsh, but an option. I am sorry for your situation, as it quite honestly is grim, since the cost to get the parts is quite high. I have been in that boat before, dropping a Lombard that I had sunk 800$ into over a period of 8 months to have it dropped and the screen crack (while going to college on a shoestring budget!). I hope for the best in your situation. Thanks for the suggestions, Adam. I'll see what my daughter decides... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Opinion wanted
Got a homeowners or renters policy? Should be covered. At least part of it. Matt Halter On May 19, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. Back in September 2004, I purchased a 12, 1GHz iBook for my daughter. All was well and she was very happy. About a month ago, she called me and said that her iBook was suddenly acting strangely. I went over and noticed that the display would only show vertical, narrow colored lines on a black background. I think I posted to the list about what the problem could be. In anycase, I asked her what happened and she said nothing. I was a little suspicious because after having used a PowerBook for more than 3 years, I know that things cannot get wrong all of a sudden for no reason. I took the iBook, still under warranty, to the closest Apple store. The genius looked at it and said there was obviously something wrong with the main logic board and said they would have to send it to the Apple's repair facility. 3 days later, I've got an email from the Apple repair facility asking me to call them because they had discovered a problem. I knew that this wouldn't be good so I called my daughter immediately and told her what was happening and that before calling Apple, I wanted to have the truth. Sure enough, something wrong happened. She actually spilled water over the keyboard and since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Opinion wanted
I had a surprising experience with a Fluke digital multimeter; I spilled Transmission fluid on it, and it quit working. I had to buy another one. Several months later I put batteries in it and it works like the other one. Certainly your mileage may vary. Maybe put it on ebay in one piece or part it out; I need a slot-loading combo drive myself, and the HD, memory and screen should fetch a bit. --- Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. Back in September 2004, I purchased a 12, 1GHz iBook for my daughter. All was well and she was very happy. About a month ago, she called me and said that her iBook was suddenly acting strangely. I went over and noticed that the display would only show vertical, narrow colored lines on a black background. I think I posted to the list about what the problem could be. In anycase, I asked her what happened and she said nothing. I was a little suspicious because after having used a PowerBook for more than 3 years, I know that things cannot get wrong all of a sudden for no reason. I took the iBook, still under warranty, to the closest Apple store. The genius looked at it and said there was obviously something wrong with the main logic board and said they would have to send it to the Apple's repair facility. 3 days later, I've got an email from the Apple repair facility asking me to call them because they had discovered a problem. I knew that this wouldn't be good so I called my daughter immediately and told her what was happening and that before calling Apple, I wanted to have the truth. Sure enough, something wrong happened. She actually spilled water over the keyboard and since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Laurent, Since Apple now has found out that liquid was spilled inside the iBook, I would expect that any future issues would be attributed to the liquid also. Therefore I would bite the bullet and find a new display and see if you can fix it yourself. I know that the iBooks are a real pain to work on, although not as bad as the Al Powerbooks, but it seems to be doable. Just get the directions to take it apart and give it a go. Tom So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On May 19, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I got a homeowner policy. How could that be covered? Homeowner's policies cover personal possessions against loss or damage, not just the house. It depends on your coverage, it could well cover dependent children at school as well. That said, they may require a specific rider to do that. Check with your agent. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 19/05/05 18:05, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 19, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I got a homeowner policy. How could that be covered? Homeowner's policies cover personal possessions against loss or damage, not just the house. It depends on your coverage, it could well cover dependent children at school as well. That said, they may require a specific rider to do that. Check with your agent. Sorry, but since English is not my native language, I don't know what a rider is. Well, a horse rider I know, but it probably doesn't apply here... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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A rider is like a second policy that covers selected items such as jewelry, guns or other possessions. Tom Sorry, but since English is not my native language, I don't know what a rider is. Well, a horse rider I know, but it probably doesn't apply here... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I have similar riders on my policies for my computer and photo equipment. For about US $100/yr I get complete replacement coverage for everything except wearing them out, deliberate damage, or acts of war. JeffW. A rider is like a second policy that covers selected items such as jewelry, guns or other possessions. Tom Sorry, but since English is not my native language, I don't know what a rider is. Well, a horse rider I know, but it probably doesn't apply here... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Apple markets the iBook to schools with the implied assurance that it is capable of withstanding the abuse school kids can deliver. I would thusly raise unholy hell with Apple and remind them that your family will personally lobby against any purchase of Apples by your school district, etc.. Hopefully Apple will realize that keeping your family as long term customers is more important than making a quick profit gouging you on repairs. If Apple no longer wants your family's business I would start looking for another similar iBook with other failed parts like a display. Given that a new 1.2 gig iBook goes for $900 at amazon.com I wouldn't spend more that $700 for a working 1.0 gig one and half that for one that needs repairs. After your done swapping parts you'll have a working iBook and lots of bits left over for future repairs... and the satisfaction of denying Apple the opportunity to gouge you again! BTW, my problem Pismo is sorta working after I put some fresh heat sink paste on the processor- it managed a whole day without freezing! I'm also in the market for another Pismo, dead or alive, within a day's drive of Minneapolis. Dyna -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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At 3:05 PM -0700 5/19/05, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 19, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I got a homeowner policy. How could that be covered? Homeowner's policies cover personal possessions against loss or damage, not just the house. It depends on your coverage, it could well cover dependent children at school as well. That said, they may require a specific rider to do that. Check with your agent. -- Also the deductible may be higher than the repair price. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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If the ibook still works in all other areas besides the display, this is what I would do. Get an external monitor, hook it up and use it as an ibook mini with built-in keyboard. :) Have your daughter start saving her pennies for a new laptop if she really needs to be portable. When she gets a new laptop, take the HD out of the ibook mini, put it in a firewire case and either sell the ibook mini as parts to part collectors or sell the parts yourself. Oh yeah, if the RAM is compatible put that in the new laptop also. .nick On Thu, 19 May 2005, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I'd like to have opinions on what I should do with my daughter's iBook. Back in September 2004, I purchased a 12, 1GHz iBook for my daughter. All was well and she was very happy. About a month ago, she called me and said that her iBook was suddenly acting strangely. I went over and noticed that the display would only show vertical, narrow colored lines on a black background. I think I posted to the list about what the problem could be. In anycase, I asked her what happened and she said nothing. I was a little suspicious because after having used a PowerBook for more than 3 years, I know that things cannot get wrong all of a sudden for no reason. I took the iBook, still under warranty, to the closest Apple store. The genius looked at it and said there was obviously something wrong with the main logic board and said they would have to send it to the Apple's repair facility. 3 days later, I've got an email from the Apple repair facility asking me to call them because they had discovered a problem. I knew that this wouldn't be good so I called my daughter immediately and told her what was happening and that before calling Apple, I wanted to have the truth. Sure enough, something wrong happened. She actually spilled water over the keyboard and since she didn't know what to do and didn't want to tell me, you can imagine the consequences. So, I called Apple and they confirmed what I had just found out. There was still liquid residues on the motherboard and this had shorted the display circuit. It seems that the computer is still working fine because I was able to boot it in target disk mode just fine. Anyway, Apple quoted me at over $750 to replace the motherboard of the iBook who was purchased for $1000. So, what are my options here? I thought I could maybe find a replacement for less and replace it myself, since I have disassembled various PowerBooks and was able to put them back together and they still worked. However, that would probably void her warranty. OTOH, my experience is that the warranty might not be that helpful and will be running out anyway in a few months. So, what are you people suggesting? Thanks for any opinion! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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Why on earth should Apple be responsible for this? The equipment was in no way defective. They didn't spill water in it. And, Laurent had tried to teach his daughter not to take food and beverages near the computer. I believe that the kind of action your suggesting actually decreases the quality of customer service for everyone. Companies would cater only to those who scream. This is hard on the customer service people, who are more likely to give short shrift to those who don't scream. It's bad for Apple's bottom line. If Apple replace the iBook of every kid who did something stupid, the rest of us would pay the price in higher equipment costs. On 19 May 2005, at 8:03 PM, Dyna wrote: Apple markets the iBook to schools with the implied assurance that it is capable of withstanding the abuse school kids can deliver. I would thusly raise unholy hell with Apple and remind them that your family will personally lobby against any purchase of Apples by your school district, etc.. Hopefully Apple will realize that keeping your family as long term customers is more important than making a quick profit gouging you on repairs. If Apple no longer wants your family's business I would start looking for another similar iBook with other failed parts like a display. Given that a new 1.2 gig iBook goes for $900 at amazon.com I wouldn't spend more that $700 for a working 1.0 gig one and half that for one that needs repairs. After your done swapping parts you'll have a working iBook and lots of bits left over for future repairs... and the satisfaction of denying Apple the opportunity to gouge you again! BTW, my problem Pismo is sorta working after I put some fresh heat sink paste on the processor- it managed a whole day without freezing! I'm also in the market for another Pismo, dead or alive, within a day's drive of Minneapolis. Dyna -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On May 19, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 19, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I got a homeowner policy. How could that be covered? Homeowner's policies cover personal possessions against loss or damage, not just the house. It depends on your coverage, it could well cover dependent children at school as well. That said, they may require a specific rider to do that. Check with your agent. Correct. Many homeowner's policies cover personal possessions from loss, accidents, etc. If I leave my iBook sitting in the airport, drop it down the steps, spill a drink on it, it's covered. (minus the deductible of course, up to the policy limit, which is $3500 in my case.) A few years back my son's bicycle was stolen while he was at a friend's house. Covered. Check with your agent. Matt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
