Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/19/05 1:49 PM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know Larry really wants the PB and it does appear to be a good deal but with the impact, there could be all sorts of hidden costs down the road But how ? Both the complete mobo and the SuperDrive was replaced after... Larry Larry, I am basing my cautions on the experiences my friends had with damaged laptops. Initially these computers seemed to be working but within months, both ended up with serious and very costly repairs. However, it appears that you are comfortable with the Superdrive, and mboard replacement replacement so perhaps you should go ahead and buy the PB. I hope it works out to be a good investment for you. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: mray [EMAIL PROTECTED] True enough, I should have been clearer, they were the early aibooks Hmm... Are we talking about an Artificial Inteligence Book here or Arsenic Iodine Book ?!? ;o) Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, it appears that you are comfortable with the Superdrive, and mboard replacement so perhaps you should go ahead and buy the PB. I hope it works out to be a good investment for you. I would just like to say (again?) that I have really enjoyed all these iBook/AlBook discussions and really apreciate all your ideas and opinions!! However, it ain't finished yet as I haven't bought it yet... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
Go for the PowerBook, it's alot more 'Book fer yer dough. If it's working now it'll almost certainly keep on working just fine. Only caveat is the same as with any mechanical-and/or-electronic device (used _or_ new) - expect it to eventually fail in some way and be prepared for that eventuality. dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/20/05 9:03 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, it appears that you are comfortable with the Superdrive, and mboard replacement so perhaps you should go ahead and buy the PB. I hope it works out to be a good investment for you. I would just like to say (again?) that I have really enjoyed all these iBook/AlBook discussions and really apreciate all your ideas and opinions!! However, it ain't finished yet as I haven't bought it yet... I understand that but you are going to have to make a decision at some point, right ? :-) I agree it has been a great discussion thus far though. It will be interesting to hear what you decide to buy at the end. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: What happens if one uses an AirPort Xtreme card in a PowerBook but an 11Mb/s basestation (802.11b) as far as the distance and all ??? In that case the Extreme card reverts to 802.11b mode, and is in all respects just like an older airport card. It should get better range at b than at g, always. In fact I believe that the card (and base station) will automatically switch to the lower B speed when you get out of range of G. I'm not positive on this, but it is the way Apple would design it. Unfortunately, the vagaries of wireless setups are such that experimenting is about the only way of determining your own optimal setup. With the 12 PB the internal Extreme card or a USB dongle are your only wireless options. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand that but you are going to have to make a decision at some point, right ? :-) I will have to make a decision tomorrow/this weekend. I probably will go for it. First of all I will run it for a while as it is and see how it suits my needs and then make a decision whether or not to keep it and then do the work. If I go for it straight away and then realise that I was fooled by the 15 AlBook 1GHz I use at work, then I will struggle to sell it. I'll keep ya posted. :o) Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go with the iBook. And I was 95% set on the AlBook... Not that I am swayed by whatever anyone else says, but I have learned the value of listening to others and getting a bigger picture!! :o) --- Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO My Mac service friend says the same thing. --- the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks Can anyone comment on this ? If so, it's a very valid point FOR ME!! --- Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. I know no-one knows these things for sure, but what is likely to happen when Tiger is released (and WHEN is that?). What will happen to prices of the iBooks ? Specs ? Twice I have bought a PowerBook (through work) and weeks afterwards a revision was released. First the TiBook 550 with DVD, three weeks later, Combo. And then my current AlBook 1GHz Combo, two weeks later, SuperDrive... :o( Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/19/05 4:18 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks Can anyone comment on this ? If so, it's a very valid point FOR ME!! The tiBook had pretty lousy reception, no doubt. The alBooks are much better; mine goes the same places my iBook did and gets reception. I don't want to make any general claims about iBook vs alBooks because in many cases we wind up comparing 802.11b to 802.11g rather than iBook to PowerBook - some iBooks have airport while others have airport extreme and since they look so much alike it takes a pretty savvy Mac user to know the difference. Airport (802.11b) has a slightly larger effective range than Airport Extreme (802.11g). In addition you can think of Airport's reception as a circle; inside the circle you have a signal and good speed. Airport Extreme is like a circle within a circle; inside the smaller circle you get high speed reception and when you step outside that your speed drops to 802.11b speeds. --- Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. I know no-one knows these things for sure, but what is likely to happen when Tiger is released (and WHEN is that?). Apple says 2nd quarter and given past similar pronouncements I'd say probably late May to July. What will happen to prices of the iBooks ? Specs ? Prices of new machines will stay the same or drop slightly while speeds and capacity go up. I've read several rumors that G5 iBook and PowerBook contracts have already been let and we'll see them in March. I'd love to believe it but I don't. I'd be really surprised if we don't hear about a speed bump sometime in late winter or spring and the G5 this summer at the earliest. And no, I have no insider information other than knowledge of the insides of the EasyBake G5 PowerMac. When Apple said thermal issues are significant I hear a massive understatement. Twice I have bought a PowerBook (through work) and weeks afterwards a revision was released. First the TiBook 550 with DVD, three weeks later, Combo. And then my current AlBook 1GHz Combo, two weeks later, SuperDrive... :o( It happens and I have only one piece of advice for avoiding that problem. Buy a Mac within a month or two of their release. That can be somewhat dangerous but I've been doing it for 10 years and the closest I've gotten to a lemon was my current 15 alBook which went back for a new screen. Of course I've also avoided the first release of massively changed models. I didn't buy a tiBook until the first revision (which I wound of selling after a month because I hated it) and until the luxor iMac I never bought an iMac at all. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 19 Jan 2005, at 20:18, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO My Mac service friend says the same thing. Although you should be careful, if the logic board has been replaced, and the display is working fine, the worst that is likely to happen is a hard disk or optical drive failure. How long has the machine been operating since it was repaired? the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks Can anyone comment on this ? If so, it's a very valid point FOR ME!! No, with the current generation of machines the difference is generally insignificant. The first lot of titanium PBs were pretty poor in this respect, but Apple has largely fixed the problem in the aluminium PBs. Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. I know no-one knows these things for sure, but what is likely to happen when Tiger is released (and WHEN is that?). I think 3-6 months. What will happen to prices of the iBooks ? Specs ? There will almost certainly be a new generation of iBooks around by then, probably with upgraded graphics cards as current iBooks don't offer full support for CoreImage. PowerBooks do, which is something that you should consider when making your decision. Unless you want to wait months before getting a new computer, you'll have to buy Tiger separately, so this doesn't really enter into the equation. Twice I have bought a PowerBook (through work) and weeks afterwards a revision was released. First the TiBook 550 with DVD, three weeks later, Combo. And then my current AlBook 1GHz Combo, two weeks later, SuperDrive... :o( PowerBook updates could come within weeks. iBook updates are a bit further away, but still likely within the same timeframe as Tiger's release. Cheers, Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 18, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: Mixed stuff, main Mac, but the reason for switching from MDD 2x1GHz to 12 is mobility, so that I can sit anywhere in the house or in the garden Go with the iBook. Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO, but the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks (I use mine mostly in the same room with the base station, so it was a moot point to me) and they have longer battery life. The iBook is a great computer. The Powerbook was right for me for other reasons, but given your situation I think the iBook is the clear winner. Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. TjL There is no significant difference in reception between an AlBook and an iBook, it was the TiBook that had poor reception. 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.7 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/19/05 4:26 AM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO My Mac service friend says the same thing. Although you should be careful, if the logic board has been replaced, and the display is working fine, the worst that is likely to happen is a hard disk or optical drive failure. How long has the machine been operating since it was repaired? It wouldn't matter to me whether the logic board was replaced or not. Consequential damage from any type of impact can cause hidden damage that may not appear for some time. A hard drive or optical drive failure may be the worst things that could happen but would you want to even play with that possibility ?? Unless you are backing up your stuff on a regular or even daily basis (for businesses), a hard drive failure can have serious consequences for anybody - including those of a financial nature related to downtime without the computer and losing important files. It just doesn't seem worth it to me. I would suggest the original poster avoid the damaged laptop like the plague and either get another used one that is still eligible for Applecare (the damaged one obviously is not) or buy a new one. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
At work we were using Powerbooks, and had a hard time keeping a signal (Could also have been due to all the metal in the building). While I have been using an iBook for over a year now and I am getting too many signals now, All the apartments in my daughters complex, across the street. And at my home (three story house) I can go to any room (plus the basement) and get a signal as well as to my neighbors house or yard. FWIW Mark On Jan 19, 2005, at 1:18 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go with the iBook. And I was 95% set on the AlBook... Not that I am swayed by whatever anyone else says, but I have learned the value of listening to others and getting a bigger picture!! :o) --- Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO My Mac service friend says the same thing. --- the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks Can anyone comment on this ? If so, it's a very valid point FOR ME!! --- Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. I know no-one knows these things for sure, but what is likely to happen when Tiger is released (and WHEN is that?). What will happen to prices of the iBooks ? Specs ? Twice I have bought a PowerBook (through work) and weeks afterwards a revision was released. First the TiBook 550 with DVD, three weeks later, Combo. And then my current AlBook 1GHz Combo, two weeks later, SuperDrive... :o( Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Mark Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 10:30 AM, mray wrote: At work we were using Powerbooks, and had a hard time keeping a signal (Could also have been due to all the metal in the building). One, the original Titanium Powerbooks had problems, the aluminum ones have redesigned antennae and do not. While I have been using an iBook for over a year now and I am getting too many signals now, All the apartments in my daughters complex, across the street. And at my home (three story house) I can go to any room (plus the basement) and get a signal as well as to my neighbors house or yard. Two, signal reception is very environment dependent. You are talking about three very different environments. the only way to reliably compare would be to use the same systems at the same place. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Two, signal reception is very environment dependent. You are talking about three very different environments. the only way to reliably compare would be to use the same systems at the same place. One tiny, probably insignificant data point: I have a 1.5GHz Powerbook G4 and a friend had an iBook (unknown specs, I think it was a 1.0Ghz or thereabouts). I was getting 3 bars. He was getting 5. We were sitting next to each other in a conference room. Now you could say that I was getting a strong signal and he was getting a very strong signal, and I didn't test to see whether either of us could get outside the room. So this is all FYI/FWIW/YMMV. I love my PB and still believe it was the right decision for me. And I would still avoid a dropped laptop like the plague unless the price was significantly lower. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airport Extreme is like a circle within a circle; inside the smaller circle you get high speed reception and when you step outside that your speed drops to 802.11b speeds. Understand 100%, but roughly, what are the radiuses (however the plural of radius is spelt ?!) of these circle going through wooden walls and stuff ? Do extra antennas on the basestation make a big difference ? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
Understand 100%, but roughly, what are the radiuses (however the plural of radius is spelt ?!) of these circle going through wooden walls and stuff ? Plural = radii Kevin. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19-Jan-05 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:06 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airport Extreme is like a circle within a circle; inside the smaller circle you get high speed reception and when you step outside that your speed drops to 802.11b speeds. Understand 100%, but roughly, what are the radiuses (however the plural of radius is spelt ?!) of these circle going through wooden walls and stuff ? radii is the plural of radius. Higher bandwidth will be more affected by signal degradation than lower. Wooden walls would not block radio waves a whole lot. My house is all concrete block, and my Airport Base Station is reachable from everywhere in it. Metal, such as reinforcing rods in concrete, conduits, plumbing and wiring in regular walls and buildings constructed of steel framing are going to cause greater range problems than wood. Haven't really seen how far outside I can pick it up, but it's near a window and exterior wall, it should be a fair distance. Do extra antennas on the basestation make a big difference ? Yes they do. Do be careful, however as you can run afoul of whatever your local equivalent of the FCC is if you cause interference with other systems. People have achieved quite long ranges with modified base stations., but the tradeoff is directionality. The farther you want to go, the more directional your antenna must be. (google 'cantenna' or 'pringles can antenna' for lots of DIY solutions.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although you should be careful, if the logic board has been replaced, and the display is working fine, the worst that is likely to happen is a hard disk or optical drive failure. How long has the machine been operating since it was repaired? I went to look at the PowerBook today, the gey's a web designer and is still using it. 1. Car accident, the front left corner got bashed, smaller dent than I thought. 2. Later on (seperate incident) he damaged the sound out port when he used it as a huge iPod and got the cable caught on a door handle... :o/ 3. Then the SuperDrive stopped working and he took it in for warranty repairs, they replaced the mobo due to the port and the SuperDrive as it had packed up. That's it. It actually sounds a lot more straight forward than I initially thought. --- There will almost certainly be a new generation of iBooks around by then, probably with upgraded graphics cards as current iBooks don't offer full support for CoreImage. PowerBooks do, which is something that you should consider when making your decision. Unless you want to wait months before getting a new computer, you'll have to buy Tiger separately, so this doesn't really enter into the equation. I went in to a local Apple dealer and compared the iBook 12 and the PowerBook 12 (albeit newer than the one I'm looking at) and there is a significant difference in the screen quality and I asked about this. They said that the actual screen is the same, but the video card difference has that effect, which actually rules out the iBook for me. So the 1GHz 12 PowerBook Al supports CorelImage ??? Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I would still avoid a dropped laptop like the plague unless the price was significantly lower. That's the one: For the price of a new iBook 12 box standard I get AlBook 12, 768MB RAM, better videocard, (also Xtreme), SuperDrive (mobo and SuperDrive replaced) and brand new battery. 65% of the cost of a box stock (albeit faster) AlBook 12 with less RAM. Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Buying damaged laptop (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question)
On 1/19/05 11:45 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to look at the PowerBook today, the gey's a web designer and is still using it. 1. Car accident, the front left corner got bashed, smaller dent than I thought. 2. Later on (seperate incident) he damaged the sound out port when he used it as a huge iPod and got the cable caught on a door handle... :o/ 3. Then the SuperDrive stopped working and he took it in for warranty repairs, they replaced the mobo due to the port and the SuperDrive as it had packed up. That's it. It actually sounds a lot more straight forward than I initially thought. I guess you will be the one making the final decision so it's up to you. People here are just making suggestions/recommendations based on your initial post. In my view, any laptop that has an impact may harbour hidden problems. I.e. I am not sure how it got damaged in this car accident : 1. Was it in a case and fell of the seat OR 2. Did he just have it sitting on the front seat (out of a case) and it slammed into the door or floor on impact. Either way, any impact that left a dent, regardless of the size, would cause me concern. Anyway, it's up to you. You're the one that's going to be using it, not us. If you feel comfortable with it - go for it. If you have any doubts, look for something else. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 19/01/05 15:09, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I would still avoid a dropped laptop like the plague unless the price was significantly lower. That's the one: For the price of a new iBook 12 box standard I get AlBook 12, 768MB RAM, better videocard, (also Xtreme), SuperDrive (mobo and SuperDrive replaced) and brand new battery. 65% of the cost of a box stock (albeit faster) AlBook 12 with less RAM. Then, I think you should go for the AlBook. Does it still have AppleCare? If it does, that would be pretty much a no brainer... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Timothy Luoma wrote: [snip] Go with the iBook. Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO, but the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks (I use mine mostly in the same room with the base station, so it was a moot point to me) and they have longer battery life. I'll assume we're talking TiBk? AlBk reception and battery are at least equal to the iBook. The only reason (?) to go for the TiBk over an AlBk would be if you need to *boot* into OS 9. The iBook is a great computer. The Powerbook was right for me for other reasons, but given your situation I think the iBook is the clear winner. Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. Agreed...so I'd recommend that, if you can, put this purchase off until June. Not only will the shipping version of Tiger likely be revealed, but the rumours of the much anticipated PBk G5 could be settled. If you still want a G4 PBk, I'm sure you'll get one for a significantly reduced price. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Buying damaged laptop (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question)
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess you will be the one making the final decision so it's up to you. People here are just making suggestions/recommendations based on your initial post. I hope you're not making that comment due to my way of saying some thing, as I have awhat may seem like a very argumentative way of saying things, that many people take as critical or whatever, but it's just me being over clear at times, I write manuals for a living ;o) Whenever I am unsure about something I always hear what my wide network of knowledgable (and sometimes not so...) have to say. I always make my own decisions, but it's always better making them based on as many facts as possible, and I have learned many things about both *Books in this discussion, hopefully so have others. :o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then, I think you should go for the AlBook. Does it still have AppleCare? If it does, that would be pretty much a no brainer... No, hence the serious brain activity to decide. ;o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
At 10:39 AM -0700 1/19/05, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 19, 2005, at 10:30 AM, mray wrote: Two, signal reception is very environment dependent. You are talking about three very different environments. the only way to reliably compare would be to use the same systems at the same place. There are principally three factors that govern how good a connection you get, what walls and such the signal has to pass through, the equipment in question and interference. My house is stucco and that has chicken wire in it. The openings in that are near the wavelength of the signal but they are small enough to still block the signal. The configuration of my house is such that the signal has to go through two exterior walls to reach my bedroom. This tends to block the signal. My first base station was an SMC model and with it I couldn't get a signal in the bedroom. My current base station, a Belkin, can be heard through those walls, and pretty much every where else in the house. AFAIK there aren't any 2.4GHz phones near my house. And our microwave oven doesn't produce any noticeable effects. There are some other WANs around but I don't think I get much interference from them. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wooden walls would not block radio waves a whole lot. My house is all concrete block, and my Airport Base Station is reachable from everywhere in it. In it yes, but I have a Swedish wooden house built in 1910 which has been covered with bricks, but no metal structures. I want to use my PowerBook outside in the garden which is about 16,500 square feet (1502 m^2) with several seating places. That works out to a square 128' on a side. Close to the house you should be able to work; it depends on where the base station is in the house. The linear distance from receiver to receiver is the key. 802.11b will reach to about 150' (~46M). Apple says 802.11g reaches about 50' (~15M) on their hardware page about the ABS Extreme. Pretty basic stuff really, but I was merely thinking of a larger uni- directional antenna. Dr. Bott sells those for $99US http://tinyurl.com/6rqn7 Don't know how well they work; but likely this will do what you want. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consequential damage from any type of impact can cause hidden damage that may not appear for some time. A hard drive or optical drive failure may be the worst things that could happen but would you want to even play with that possibility ?? The SuperDrive was replaced at a later stage, maybe because of the drop but we'll never know. In any case, it's newer than the accident. I am actually considering replacing the HD for speed purposes anyway. --- I would suggest the original poster avoid the damaged laptop like the plague That'd be me... :o) --- and either get another used one For that price it won't have AirPort Xtreme, Superdrive and 768MB RAM. --- that is still eligible for Applecare (the damaged one obviously is not) I wouldn't spend the money... --- or buy a new one. The AlBook is 50% out of my budget. ...and now I know I don't like the iBook... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
What happens if one uses an AirPort Xtreme card in a PowerBook but an 11Mb/s basestation (802.11b) as far as the distance and all ??? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Extreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
No issues with the Distance. But I'll tell you what happened on my Home Network. I have Comcast cable. When I had it plugged into a Snow Base Station, I only got about a 187 kps download speed. When I upgraded to Airport Extreme, my download speeds jumped to 378 kps. I have a 17 PowerBook with an Extreme card inside. Hope that helps you. Regards, Aaron From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:13:20 +0100 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Airport Xtreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question What happens if one uses an AirPort Xtreme card in a PowerBook but an 11Mb/s basestation (802.11b) as far as the distance and all ??? Larry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Extreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Aaron Willems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happens if one uses an AirPort Xtreme card in a PowerBook but an 11Mb/s basestation (802.11b) as far as the distance and all ??? No issues with the Distance. Will it be shorter like the Xtreme ? Or longer like 802.11b ? --- When I had it plugged into a Snow Base Station, I only got about a 187 kps download speed. When I upgraded to Airport Extreme, my download speeds jumped to 378 kps. Hope that helps you. Hmm, na.. You had 187 kbps with 11Mb/s AirPort and 378 kbps with 54Mb/s AirPort Xtreme ??? As both download speeds are much slower than the Airport surely it can't be affected by the actual Wireless speed ??? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Extreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 19/01/05 16:28, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Aaron Willems [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happens if one uses an AirPort Xtreme card in a PowerBook but an 11Mb/s basestation (802.11b) as far as the distance and all ??? No issues with the Distance. Will it be shorter like the Xtreme ? Or longer like 802.11b ? --- When I had it plugged into a Snow Base Station, I only got about a 187 kps download speed. When I upgraded to Airport Extreme, my download speeds jumped to 378 kps. Hope that helps you. Hmm, na.. You had 187 kbps with 11Mb/s AirPort and 378 kbps with 54Mb/s AirPort Xtreme ??? As both download speeds are much slower than the Airport surely it can't be affected by the actual Wireless speed ??? That's kinda weird. A good 11Mb/s connection should be well enough for a Cable or DSL connection, even a T1. The wireless speed shouldn't affect the download speed. Maybe the physical location of the Xtreme base station or the laptop was not the same than with regular AirPort? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/19/05 12:19 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, I think you should go for the AlBook. Does it still have AppleCare? If it does, that would be pretty much a no brainer... Actually, AppleCare does not cover accidental damage and any problems that may appear to stem from that same impact. It already has a dent which would signal physical damage immediately. I can't see them covering any kind of future repairs on that PB. I know Larry really wants the PB and it does appear to be a good deal but with the impact, there could be all sorts of hidden costs down the road that could easily exceed the cost of getting a brand new 12 iBook with some extra RAM etc and which qualifies for AppleCare. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Airport Extreme (was To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
Technically your right. It should make no difference. All I can tell you, is that both base stations were in the same spot, and I was only 12 feet away right from the base distance, direct sight, no wall interference. I can't explain it, but I'm much happier now. Aaron Hmm, na.. You had 187 kbps with 11Mb/s AirPort and 378 kbps with 54Mb/s AirPort Xtreme ??? As both download speeds are much slower than the Airport surely it can't be affected by the actual Wireless speed ??? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know Larry really wants the PB and it does appear to be a good deal but with the impact, there could be all sorts of hidden costs down the road But how ? Both the complete mobo and the SuperDrive was replaced after... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 19, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: ...and now I know I don't like the iBook... Go for the Powerbook... your gut instinct is the most important detail, and the accident doesn't sound as bad as it initially did. Sounds like you did the best thing, saw them, TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
True enough, I should have been clearer, they were the early aibooks, again there was a lot of metal in the building, but when I had my ibook at work (not often enough to reliably compare) I did not have the same connection problems. The two times I had one of the aibooks home the connection was solid, but didn't really do much roaming. Also would wireless b vs g have any effect on signal strength/connectivity/range? regards, mark On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:39 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 19, 2005, at 10:30 AM, mray wrote: At work we were using Powerbooks, and had a hard time keeping a signal (Could also have been due to all the metal in the building). One, the original Titanium Powerbooks had problems, the aluminum ones have redesigned antennae and do not. While I have been using an iBook for over a year now and I am getting too many signals now, All the apartments in my daughters complex, across the street. And at my home (three story house) I can go to any room (plus the basement) and get a signal as well as to my neighbors house or yard. Two, signal reception is very environment dependent. You are talking about three very different environments. the only way to reliably compare would be to use the same systems at the same place. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha acy Information Technology Group -- Mark Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: Mixed stuff, main Mac, but the reason for switching from MDD 2x1GHz to 12 is mobility, so that I can sit anywhere in the house or in the garden Go with the iBook. Not only is a dropped laptop forever tainted IMO, but the iBooks are said to have much better reception than the Powerbooks (I use mine mostly in the same room with the base station, so it was a moot point to me) and they have longer battery life. The iBook is a great computer. The Powerbook was right for me for other reasons, but given your situation I think the iBook is the clear winner. Definitely wait for Tiger at this point. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
On 1/15/05 8:36 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am pondering my next *Book purchase and the way I see it I have two choices (need vs. budget and all...) First, I would not purchase any laptop that was previously damaged in an accident regardless of documentation that some repair took place (but that is just my personal preference). I am sure you are aware that even if the PB is still under Applecare, that damage would not be covered, even if it is the cause of other problems. Given the above, out of the two computers you presented, I would go for the new iBook 12. If you can wait, buy an iBook that includes Tiger and save yourself the cost of upgrading. You don't go into great detail regarding what you would be using this computer for except it seems like it will be your main computer and you will be using it extensively for internet purposes. In that case, the iBook would be a great choice. If you are planning to use any graphic intensive programs like Photoshop, I would be more inclined to go with a PB. I have a 15 Al PB and use it as my primary computer. I use it primarily for Photoshop work, including photo restoration and am very pleased with it. I don't believe an iBook would have been sufficient for this kind of work but for everything else, the iBook is a great value for money. Good luck with your decision, Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you can wait, buy an iBook that includes Tiger + for the iBook --- You don't go into great detail regarding what you would be using this computer for Mixed stuff, main Mac, but the reason for switching from MDD 2x1GHz to 12 is mobility, so that I can sit anywhere in the house or in the garden. --- If you are planning to use any graphic intensive programs I have a 15 Al PB and use it as my primary computer. I have a 15 AlBook 1GHz at work. --- I don't believe an iBook would have been sufficient for this kind of work I can't really see why, they are so similar. 32MB VRAM GeForce vs. ATI 1GHz vs. 1.2GHz 12 vs. 12 ??? Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The GPU may not seem like it's too important, but under Tiger, none of the iBooks (nor the Mac mini, for that matter) will support CoreImage. Very valid point! So this includes the 12 PB G4 1GHz ??? --- The DVI out is another big thing -- if you want to upgrade the LCD (or if the current one has a DVI connecter), it's much better to go DVI-DVI (or even DVI-VGA) than VGA-DVI. Yes, I had thought of this. --- Also, PowerBooks can (officially) take more RAM (up to 1.25GB No, the same: http://www.apple-history.com/frames/body.php?page=gallerymodel=ibook_g4_lat_04 http://www.apple-history.com/frames/body.php?page=gallerymodel=pg4_12_dvi --- An extra 10GB hard drive space is not huge either way, but you'll probably hit the limits of the 30GB drive reasonably soon, so at least the 40GB gives you more time to upgrade. Not for me as the PowerBook/iBook won't house any file storage, I will have my server for that. The *Book will act a bit more like an NC. Everyone remember those ??? --- Finally, the PB is just a much more attractive computer. The iBooks scratch and stain quite easily, whereas the PB maintains its pretty aluminium sheen through almost any punishment. Also, I can paint the AlBook with automotive paint!!! Just gotta decide on a design, taking inspiration from some NHL goalie helmets! :o) Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Al Poulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] + SuperDrive (combo in iBook) Do you need to burn DVDs? I have a SuperDrive (DVD-RW) in my current MDD (which would end up selling), but I also have a DVD+RW external FW drive. A choice of format... --- + DVI out (mini-VGA for the iBook) For me this would be the big one. From what everyone has said, I am leaning towards the DVI. --- + Audio in on the PB (none on the iBook) Do you need or even want this? I occasionally digitize audio tapes and stuff... Thanks for your tips/ideas/thoughts! Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what current PBs can take but this new iBook has 1.25Gb in it. The whole point here is that I am comparing a new iBook 12 with an older AlBook 12 but 1GHz as they work out at the same price for me, due to the AlBook requiring a new battery. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
I am pondering my next *Book purchase and the way I see it I have two choices (need vs. budget and all...) I will be using this as my main Mac with an external 17 TFT in my study and then AirPort everywhere else in the house and garden. New iBook 12 or A second hand AlBook 12 1GHz that I have been offered. It was involved in an accident and has a small casing damage, but the motherboard was replaced (receipt). = Slower CPU but larger drive 40 vs. 30GB (same spec. cache bus) = VRAM, ports = + SuperDrive (combo in iBook) + DVI out (mini-VGA for the iBook) + Audio in on the PB (none on the iBook) - I can wait to buy an iBook that'll come with Tiger + I can repaint the PowerBook. ??? Video ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (iBook) vs. NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (PB G4) The PowerBook works out only marginally cheaper, bt may have more RAM. Which *Book should I buy ??? Why ? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
I'd recommend the PB 12 -- the screens are generally better, the GPU is better, and they're more expandable. The GPU may not seem like it's too important, but under Tiger, none of the iBooks (nor the Mac mini, for that matter) will support CoreImage. This means you can't use Motion, and you won't be able to use the efficiency improvements that Tiger implements. The DVI out is another big thing -- if you want to upgrade the LCD (or if the current one has a DVI connecter), it's much better to go DVI-DVI (or even DVI-VGA) than VGA-DVI. Also, PowerBooks can (officially) take more RAM (up to 1.25GB, I believe, compared with 640MB for the iBooks). Newer, high-capacity SODIMMs make this less of an issue, but it's still good to have over 1GB of RAM wherever possible. An extra 10GB hard drive space is not huge either way, but you'll probably hit the limits of the 30GB drive reasonably soon, so at least the 40GB gives you more time to upgrade. Finally, the PB is just a much more attractive computer. The iBooks scratch and stain quite easily, whereas the PB maintains its pretty aluminium sheen through almost any punishment. Cheers, Ben On 16 Jan 2005, at 03:36, Larry le Mac wrote: I am pondering my next *Book purchase and the way I see it I have two choices (need vs. budget and all...) I will be using this as my main Mac with an external 17 TFT in my study and then AirPort everywhere else in the house and garden. New iBook 12 or A second hand AlBook 12 1GHz that I have been offered. It was involved in an accident and has a small casing damage, but the motherboard was replaced (receipt). = Slower CPU but larger drive 40 vs. 30GB (same spec. cache bus) = VRAM, ports = + SuperDrive (combo in iBook) + DVI out (mini-VGA for the iBook) + Audio in on the PB (none on the iBook) - I can wait to buy an iBook that'll come with Tiger + I can repaint the PowerBook. ??? Video ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (iBook) vs. NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (PB G4) The PowerBook works out only marginally cheaper, bt may have more RAM. Which *Book should I buy ??? Why ? Larry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
Larry, I have no simple answer, but maybe a few thoughts to work on. Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be using this as my main Mac with an external 17 TFT in my study and then AirPort everywhere else in the house and garden. New iBook 12 or A second hand AlBook 12 1GHz that I have been offered. It was involved in an accident and has a small casing damage, but the motherboard was replaced (receipt). Make sure the machine is OK now and that you get the CDs for all the licensed software. = Slower CPU but larger drive 40 vs. 30GB (same spec. cache bus) = VRAM, ports = + SuperDrive (combo in iBook) Do you need to burn DVDs? + DVI out (mini-VGA for the iBook) For me this would be the big one. Since you are going for the external monitor, is there any advantage in video quality between the DVI and the mini-VGA? I do not know, but have the very vague impression that the VGA entails some conversion of signal involving digital to analog which degrades what your eyeball gets. Also, does the interface dictate what models of monitor are available to you? + Audio in on the PB (none on the iBook) Do you need or even want this? - I can wait to buy an iBook that'll come with Tiger And maybe there will be another performance kicker by then. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: To iBook or AlBook, that is the question
At 11:56 AM +1100 1/16/05, Ben Dyer wrote: Also, PowerBooks can (officially) take more RAM (up to 1.25GB, I believe, compared with 640MB for the iBooks). Newer, high-capacity SODIMMs make this less of an issue, but it's still good to have over 1GB of RAM wherever possible. I don't know what current PBs can take but this new iBook has 1.25Gb in it. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
