Re: Logic board interchange

[Clark Martin]

On 3/9/10 11:10 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

Does anyone know of an interchangeability list for logic boards in G3
iBooks. I have a G3 iBook 500 MHz that has a problem with the speaker
jack that I think will need a logic board to fix it and I was wondering
if I can upgrade it to a faster processor.


The speaker jack is actually one of the few things you have a decent 
chance at fixing on a logic board.



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Re: Logic board interchange

[John Carmonne]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Clark Martin wrote:

> On 3/9/10 11:10 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:
>> Does anyone know of an interchangeability list for logic boards in G3
>> iBooks. I have a G3 iBook 500 MHz that has a problem with the speaker
>> jack that I think will need a logic board to fix it and I was wondering
>> if I can upgrade it to a faster processor.
> 
> The speaker jack is actually one of the few things you have a decent chance 
> at fixing on a logic board.
> 

Is this some thing that is replaceable?
The machine will give sound through the headphones or USB speaker but not 
internal speaker. In system preferences the only choice in output sound is 
headphone mode. This is why I think maybe the jack is messed up.  I can solder 
fairly good as long as I can see it. I'm looking for some magnifying type 
glasses I can use over my bifocals.

I hope this isn't considered excessive quoting, Kinda hard to follow without 
the previous quotes?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA






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Re: AEBS Picture (Off list please)

[romantic]

I'm on dial up, and ROL didn't mind having a look. Yes they should have 
been sent directly to member.:-D


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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[dc]

On Mar 9, 11:09 am, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> Any experience with stacking drives in the sleds offered under the  
> vent fan of a Quicksilver 2002?
> My Seagates (750 & 500GB) look awfully close together run off the  
> onboard controller. For heat and ventilation reasons, would prefer  
> they be separated, but even using a longer style non-CS IDE cable,  I  
> cannot get the distance needed from the last two connectors, to use  
> the middle sled for the 2nd one.

Use a piece of string to layout and measure the length you need and
then search for something that fits, I use round IDE cables similar to
this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Mad-Dog-24-Blue-Dual-Device-ATA-133-IDE-Cable_W0QQitemZ140349152817QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20ad761e31
Somewhere in the back of a closet I have a crimper tool, spools of IDE
and SCSI ribbon cables, connectors etc. for making custom length
cables, they are very easy to make. Maybe you can find an IT person
who still has one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/IDC-IDS-Ribbon-Cable-Crimper-Crimping-Crimp-Tool_W0QQitemZ200442851612QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Computers_Networking_Accessories?hash=item2eab53311c
or a welder who has a pair of these, which work just as well:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2PC-10-WELDING-FLAT-JAW-CLAMP-LOCKING-PLIERS-GRIP-VICE_W0QQitemZ350323967584QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Hand_Tools?hash=item5190ef8660

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Re: AEBS Picture (Off list please)

[John Carmonne]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:32 AM, roman...@ideal-access.com wrote:

> I'm on dial up, and ROL didn't mind having a look. Yes they should have been 
> sent directly to member.:-D
> 
Gee sorry All, Im an old man and has so happy that I could send pictures of 
something meaningful that I failed to change the address before it was too 
late. :=} I'm grateful I'm still allowed to post.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA






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Re: Logic board interchange

[Richard Gerome]

   I'm assuming you are talking about the dual USB White iBook??? I would have 
to say if they made the same iBook with a faster processer you should be able 
to do this... I am not sure if they made one or not...
   As far as the sound goes, if it is not coming out of the speaker but is 
coming out of the headphone jack I don't think it's the headphone jack??? It 
might be the speaker its self, the wiring to the speaker or a problem in that 
circuit on the mother board??? 



-Original Message-
>From: JOHN CARMONNE 
>Sent: Mar 10, 2010 2:10 AM
>To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Logic board interchange
>
>Does anyone know of an interchangeability list for logic boards in G3  
>iBooks. I have a G3 iBook 500 MHz that has a problem with the speaker  
>jack that I think will need a logic board to fix it and I was  
>wondering if I can upgrade it to a faster processor.
>
>JOHN CARMONNE
>Yorba Linda USA
>sent from my Wally 10.4.11
>
>
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Re: Logic board interchange

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:49 AM, John Carmonne wrote:



Is this some thing that is replaceable?
The machine will give sound through the headphones or USB speaker  
but not internal speaker. In system preferences the only choice in  
output sound is headphone mode. This is why I think maybe the jack  
is messed up.  I can solder fairly good as long as I can see it. I'm  
looking for some magnifying type glasses I can use over my bifocals.



Part of my "recommended kit" for computer repairs are a pair of these :



I can confirm that they work over bifocals, coke-bottle ones at that.

However, for workbench use I still recommend a good one of these :



Much easier to use while soldering (much less likely to accidentally  
solder the tip of your nose with one...yes, that's a 'been there, done  
that' moment.)


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Re: Need some help please

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Derek Jones wrote:

My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  
it, I think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  
sure. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.





Sudden onset whining noises can come, pretty much from only four  
sources: the hard drive, the fans, the optical drive and the audio  
system.


If you're experiencing lots of spinning pinwheels, particularly when  
accessing the drive (opening, closing files, etc) it's the hard drive.  
Back up your stuff NOW, and look for a replacement.


If it seems very warm, and you can feel air moving out of the vents  
when the whining is happening, it's likely the fans. Sadly this is  
logic-board replacement time as the fans are part of the logic board  
on most models of these.


On a G4 if you can pull it out into the open and you can run it while  
the case is open. This will help you identify where the sound is  
coming from, down near the hard drive, in front by the optical (or zip  
drive, if present) by the fan, the back of the power supply (to id the  
fan in there).


The audio subsystem can be identified by unplugging any speakers...if  
the noise stops, it's the audio, which will be a special case to fix.


Pretty much, whatever you find making the noise, replace that part.

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Re: Need some help please

[Doug McNutt]

At 09:00 -0700 3/10/10, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Derek Jones wrote:
>
>> My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  it, I 
>> think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  sure. Any 
>> help would be appreciated, thank you.
>>

My sawtooth G4 has a recurring problem that fits your description.  It's the 
fan on the ATI AGP video  board. Easy test is to stick your finger, carefully, 
on the fan. If the sound goes away you got it. If the fan bites your finger off 
it's something else.

I have been taking the tape of the fan about once a year and applying a tiny 
drop of gun oil. It's a thin 40 mm square thing and so far I haven't seen a 
replacement on the el-cheapo electronics stores.
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Re: Need some help please

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Doug McNutt wrote:



My sawtooth G4 has a recurring problem that fits your description.   
It's the fan on the ATI AGP video  board. Easy test is to stick your  
finger, carefully, on the fan. If the sound goes away you got it. If  
the fan bites your finger off it's something else.


I have been taking the tape of the fan about once a year and  
applying a tiny drop of gun oil. It's a thin 40 mm square thing and  
so far I haven't seen a replacement on the el-cheapo electronics  
stores.


Mouser Electronics  carries those, I've used  
them on other ATI cards and chipsets, if you can find the OEM number  
of the fan. You may also have to carefully remove and replace the  
plastic shroud which is often a custom item.


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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[t...@io.com]

On Mar 9, 5:50 pm, Dan  wrote:
> At 11:09 AM -0500 3/9/2010, Bill Connelly wrote:
>
> >Any experience with stacking drives
>
> Do not stack bare HDs directly upon each other, ever.
>
> As long as the drives have some reasonable air gap between them,
> there shouldn't be a problem.
>
> I often don't have sleds... so I make small corregated coardboard
> spacers and some tape.

I use flat angle brackets from the hardware store.  I can't remember
if I get the 1.5" or the 2".   Just get four of them, and screw them
onto the sides of the drives.   This will hold one drive above the
other with a gap depending on the size of bracket you bought.

These are the flat L shaped (equal leg length) pieces of metal about
1/2" wide with holes in the legs for screws.   You can also just get
straight (rectangular) flat metal bits with the screw holes.  I can't
remember why I use the 'L' shaped ones, but there was some reason at
the time

Jeff Walther

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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[Bill Connelly]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:49 PM, t...@io.com wrote:


I use flat angle brackets from the hardware store.  I can't remember
if I get the 1.5" or the 2".   Just get four of them, and screw them
onto the sides of the drives.   This will hold one drive above the
other with a gap depending on the size of bracket you bought.



The sleds provided by Apple, only allow about 1/4" between 2 Seagate  
HDs (750GB and 500GB ones).


Just doesn't seem like enough ... especially considering the circuit  
board on the bottoms that are exposed.


Seems to be working in the short run ... but I'll scrounge up some  
brackets and see what that offers (I have things like that "filed  
away" out in my workshop ...


Thanks to all who responded.

I have a number of plastic ones from my days with the 8500s and  
9500s ... some still in use! ... although I'm considering retiring my  
8500 with full compliment of memory with a Sonnet 450MHz G4 still  
operational and ATI Radeon 7000ME ... LEM List here I might come ...  
running Tiger 10.4.11 very well ...


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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[Len Gerstel]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:



On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:49 PM, t...@io.com wrote:


I use flat angle brackets from the hardware store.  I can't remember
if I get the 1.5" or the 2".   Just get four of them, and screw them
onto the sides of the drives.   This will hold one drive above the
other with a gap depending on the size of bracket you bought.



The sleds provided by Apple, only allow about 1/4" between 2  
Seagate HDs (750GB and 500GB ones).


Just doesn't seem like enough ... especially considering the  
circuit board on the bottoms that are exposed.



I had 2 x 120GBs stacked using the apple bracket in my DA, along with  
320 and 500GB SATA drives single layered next to them. I had no  
issues with heat with either a 533 or 933 QS processor in there. When  
I put a dual 1.2GHz G4, THEN I had heat issues and ran with the door  
open.


FWIW,
Len

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Re: Need some help please

[John Callahan]

Start it up on your OS install disc and see if the whine stops.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Derek Jones wrote:

My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  
it, I think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  
sure. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.



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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[Bill Connelly]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Len Gerstel wrote:


I had 2 x 120GBs stacked using the apple bracket in my DA, along  
with 320 and 500GB SATA drives single layered next to them. I had no  
issues with heat with either a 533 or 933 QS processor in there.  
When I put a dual 1.2GHz G4, THEN I had heat issues and ran with the  
door open.




I'm sort of in between ... my QS any way ... a native Dual 1GHz G4 on  
my QS 2002 ( and an Apple Dual 533 installed on my Digital Audio).


Was only dreaming about the SATAs in my QS ...

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Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[Jeffrey Engle]

Here's what I did...
1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions,  
then "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there  
was only 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid  
here? any ideas? Jeff


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Problem Solved! re:Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[Jeffrey Engle]

I emptied the trash and all is well... (duh!)

Here's what I did...
1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions,  
then "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there  
was only 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid  
here? any ideas? Jeff


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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:



The sleds provided by Apple, only allow about 1/4" between 2 Seagate  
HDs (750GB and 500GB ones).




That works just fine. The spacing is just as small in our big rack- 
mounted SAN and that has 12 or 16 big drives in it grinding along 24/7.


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Re: Logic board interchange

[John Carmonne]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:

> 
> 
>   I'm assuming you are talking about the dual USB White iBook??? I would have 
> to say if they made the same iBook with a faster processor you should be able 
> to do this... I am not sure if they made one or not...
>   As far as the sound goes, if it is not coming out of the speaker but is 
> coming out of the headphone jack I don't think it's the headphone jack??? It 
> might be the speaker its self, the wiring to the speaker or a problem in that 
> circuit on the mother board??? 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: JOHN CARMONNE 
>> Sent: Mar 10, 2010 2:10 AM
>> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Logic board interchange
>> 
>> Does anyone know of an interchangeability list for logic boards in G3  
>> iBooks. I have a G3 iBook 500 MHz that has a problem with the speaker  
>> jack that I think will need a logic board to fix it and I was  
>> wondering if I can upgrade it to a faster processor.
>> 
>> 
 The reason I'm thinking the jack is because the system preferences doesn't 
show the speaker option in the sound pane. It's like the jack thinks head 
phones are plugged in.
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA






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Re: Logic board interchange

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:18 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



The reason I'm thinking the jack is because the system preferences  
doesn't show the speaker option in the sound pane. It's like the  
jack thinks head phones are plugged in.


This is often due to deformation of the jack itself, pop it open, and  
plug the headphines in and take 'em out, you should be able to see  
where you need to futz with the connectors a bit.


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Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL

[dorayme]

John Carmonne  Mar 08 03:37AM -0800 ^

On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:08 AM, dorayme wrote:

> 1. I will make a fresh and tested backup with SuperDuper of my  
main working Tiger drive on my QS to my external HD volume via FW  
and Superduper.


> 2. I will wipe the 320GB HD on the Macbook clean with Disk  
Utility and get my install disks out.


... 3 was about partitioning for Windows...I left the partitioning as  
you said...


> 4. I will then install Snow from my brand new DVD disks and  
somewhere along the way, I will be asked if I want to bring in  
stuff from another Mac.


I said no because it assured me I can do this later with MA.

Make sure after you install SL you also do all the Apple updates  
using software updates, nothing else!!


Yes, I did all above.

> 5. I will then connect my MB to the QS backup external drive via  
USB. I will connect the two via USB. (No FW on MB). When I am  
"setting up" for first time and I am asked if I want to move stuff,  
I say yes and I identify *the whole QS back up volume* on the  
external HD.


Yes, I did this. A few pesky things like it did not accept that the  
names on my MB and QS were the same and invited me to rename the QS  
user for the purpose of transfer right here and now. Then it did the  
deed.


> 6. That's it? MA is "quite smart enough to manage the  
complexities involved". I trust you Bruce! Luckily, nothing is  
mission critical because I will not need the MB to do serious work  
for a couple of weeks. I hope it does not ask me tricky questions  
along the way.


Please just do it . We're all waiting to see you amazed at the  
accuracy of Migration Assistant. LOL But That's just maybe me.


No, it worked better than I expected once pennies starting dropping  
about a few things. As Bruce implied, you have to log in to the  
migrated user and the changes are apparent. I had the wrong idea that  
it was the MB *main user account* that got changed!


I had to install rosetta or something (to get intel to read power I  
guess) and it said to download latest mac combo update (450MB!) even  
if software update had been performed. And there were some surprises  
like first login brought millions of files onto the MB desktop  
(whereas most of these files were in a folder within the desktop  
folder on the QS). I fixed all this. Mail seems to be working on some  
of the tested accounts, usenet MT-Watcher too. And I was simply  
amazed to see my Fireworks and Photoshop CS work too on initial test  
I thought latest MB would not run these right even so? Even BBEdit!


Mail.app does not have all the mail boxes I had created on the QS and  
will look into that. So far I am well pleased and thank you all for  
advice.


Need to tidy a lot up now. I know you can't easily do this but is  
there any way to now change the name of my migrated account?


Not sure if I should delete the account I created when installing the  
OS from the DVDs. or could it be used to somehow import all from the  
migrated account and then deleting the migrated one. That way I would  
have the name I prefer.



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Re: Logic board interchange

[John Carmonne]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:18 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The reason I'm thinking the jack is because the system preferences doesn't 
>> show the speaker option in the sound pane. It's like the jack thinks head 
>> phones are plugged in.
> 
> This is often due to deformation of the jack itself, pop it open, and plug 
> the headphines in and take 'em out, you should be able to see where you need 
> to futz with the connectors a bit.
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> 
I sure hope that's the fix I have to open the thing to upgrade the HDD and RAM. 
I understand this machine is not the walk in the park like the Wally or TiBooks 
So I'll get the magnifier glasses with the headlights in case of soldering, so 
I don't forget where those impossiblly small screws go :-) 

John Carmonne
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Boot chime on G4

[MichaelP]

 Is this a sign of impending doom?  The chime is absent both on Boot and 
on restart.   I'm using OS 10.3.9

I've tried resetting the sound preference with external speakers removed - 
but with no effect.

Michael 

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Re: Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

> Here's what I did...
> 1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions, then
> "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there was only
> 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid here? any ideas?
> Jeff
>

What machine ?  Google your machine  with the search term hard drive limit
or search the LEM machine profiles. Some machines have system access limits.
You can also search the LEM archive for info on your machine. Did it ever
really see the half Terrabyte ?

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Re: Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Engle   
wrote:

Here's what I did...
1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions,  
then "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there  
was only 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid  
here? any ideas? Jeff


What machine ?  Google your machine  with the search term hard drive  
limit or search the LEM machine profiles. Some machines have system  
access limits. You can also search the LEM archive for info on your  
machine. Did it ever really see the half Terrabyte ?




G5 2.3 Power Mac (early 2005)



Solved. for some reason, a folder named "recovered items" was put in  
the trash when I "erased free space" that was 463 gb in size maxing  
out the HD, googled around, emptied the trash bingo! Jeff 


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Re: Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>
>> Here's what I did...
>> 1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions, then
>> "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there was only
>> 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid here? any ideas?
>> Jeff
>>
>
> What machine ?  Google your machine  with the search term hard drive limit
> or search the LEM machine profiles. Some machines have system access limits.
> You can also search the LEM archive for info on your machine. Did it ever
> really see the half Terrabyte ?
>
> G5 2.3 Power Mac (early 2005)
>
>
>
> Solved. for some reason, a folder named "recovered items" was put in the
> trash when I "erased free space" that was 463 gb in size maxing out the HD,
> googled around, emptied the trash bingo! Jeff
>
> _
>

I don't think G5s have any such a limit as I had referred to earlier. It
probably only put a reference string in the trash or it would have been a
while actually moving content.

Bruce will delineate the mixup.


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Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:48 PM, dorayme wrote:


John Carmonne  Mar 08 03:37AM -0800 ^

On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:08 AM, dorayme wrote:

> 1. I will make a fresh and tested backup with SuperDuper of my  
main working Tiger drive on my QS to my external HD volume via FW  
and Superduper.


> 2. I will wipe the 320GB HD on the Macbook clean with Disk  
Utility and get my install disks out.


... 3 was about partitioning for Windows...I left the partitioning  
as you said...


> 4. I will then install Snow from my brand new DVD disks and  
somewhere along the way, I will be asked if I want to bring in  
stuff from another Mac.


I said no because it assured me I can do this later with MA.

Make sure after you install SL you also do all the Apple updates  
using software updates, nothing else!!


Yes, I did all above.

> 5. I will then connect my MB to the QS backup external drive via  
USB. I will connect the two via USB. (No FW on MB). When I am  
"setting up" for first time and I am asked if I want to move  
stuff, I say yes and I identify *the whole QS back up volume* on  
the external HD.


Yes, I did this. A few pesky things like it did not accept that the  
names on my MB and QS were the same and invited me to rename the QS  
user for the purpose of transfer right here and now. Then it did  
the deed.


> 6. That's it? MA is "quite smart enough to manage the  
complexities involved". I trust you Bruce! Luckily, nothing is  
mission critical because I will not need the MB to do serious work  
for a couple of weeks. I hope it does not ask me tricky questions  
along the way.


Please just do it . We're all waiting to see you amazed at the  
accuracy of Migration Assistant. LOL But That's just maybe me.


No, it worked better than I expected once pennies starting dropping  
about a few things. As Bruce implied, you have to log in to the  
migrated user and the changes are apparent. I had the wrong idea  
that it was the MB *main user account* that got changed!


I had to install rosetta or something (to get intel to read power I  
guess) and it said to download latest mac combo update (450MB!)  
even if software update had been performed. And there were some  
surprises like first login brought millions of files onto the MB  
desktop (whereas most of these files were in a folder within the  
desktop folder on the QS). I fixed all this. Mail seems to be  
working on some of the tested accounts, usenet MT-Watcher too. And  
I was simply amazed to see my Fireworks and Photoshop CS work too  
on initial test I thought latest MB would not run these right even  
so? Even BBEdit!


Mail.app does not have all the mail boxes I had created on the QS  
and will look into that. So far I am well pleased and thank you all  
for advice.


Need to tidy a lot up now. I know you can't easily do this but is  
there any way to now change the name of my migrated account?


Not sure if I should delete the account I created when installing  
the OS from the DVDs. or could it be used to somehow import all  
from the migrated account and then deleting the migrated one. That  
way I would have the name I prefer.



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I google change name issues, Some are simple The admin name is the  
tough one, there are two ways to do this AFAIK make sure to follow  
the instructions close It's not real hard but requires attention,  
much easier on Tiger

JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
sent from my Wally 10.4.11



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Uses for a Wallstreet

[Trickster]

Hello Everyone..
Thanks for all the help in the past.  Anyone make any suggestions on
what I can use a Wallstreet for?  Think the battery is shot, but still
runs well.  Just looking for ideas.

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Re: Uses for a Wallstreet

[John Niven]

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/no_computers_in_class_professo.php

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Re: Uses for a Wallstreet

[M. Worgan, J.]

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Trickster wrote:
Hello Everyone..
Thanks for all the help in the past.  Anyone make any suggestions on
what I can use a Wallstreet for?  Think the battery is shot, but still
runs well.  Just looking for ideas.

data processing with FileMaker Pro, Excel, etc.
word processing
listen to CDs and watch DVDs
games
computerized picture frame for photos
online net surffing and communications (email, audio and visual)

great bridge between older OS and newer OS10.1-3 maybe 4 as well as moving
data between floppy drives, VST drives, CD burning

has wifi possibilities and some have achieved USB

SCSI accesss to scanners, external hardrives, burners, other computers (IR
also)

able to use less expensive used software for lower OS

looks professionally black

If its lost or stolen you haven't lost an $1000+ machine

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Re: Uses for a Wallstreet

[John Carmonne]

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Trickster wrote:

> Hello Everyone..
> Thanks for all the help in the past.  Anyone make any suggestions on
> what I can use a Wallstreet for?  Think the battery is shot, but still
> runs well.  Just looking for ideas.
 
I put Tiger on one of my Wally's  and use it while wathcing TV and posting 
here. I use Camino for a Browser and it has 512 RAM it does everything all the 
other kids do, except too slow 
for Utube. Great machine at the library when folks see Tiger alive and well on 
it:-)I  got a 300MHz card from "virginlamp...@aol.com"  This guy has 
everything for the Wallys and cheap. Good luck.

John Carmonne  wtmm
Yorba Linda USA

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Re: Hd all of a sudden FULL??

[John Musbach]

Next tine please upload file to list for analysis because that's
common link to viral infection of the computer.

On 3/10/10, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Engle 
>> wrote:
>> Here's what I did...
>> 1 500gb drive, 2 partitions, I went to delete one of the partitions,
>> then "erase free space"... now it says it's full? where before there
>> was only 30gb on it? I'm either going nuts or did something stupid
>> here? any ideas? Jeff
>>
>> What machine ?  Google your machine  with the search term hard drive
>> limit or search the LEM machine profiles. Some machines have system
>> access limits. You can also search the LEM archive for info on your
>> machine. Did it ever really see the half Terrabyte ?
>>
>
> G5 2.3 Power Mac (early 2005)
>
>
>
> Solved. for some reason, a folder named "recovered items" was put in
> the trash when I "erased free space" that was 463 gb in size maxing
> out the HD, googled around, emptied the trash bingo! Jeff
>
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PM G5 front panel FW port

[John Carmonne]

Hi All

 I have a PM G5 2.7 Dual that apparently has a dead FW port,  Kinda strange 
that the port supplies power but no data transfer??  So I have a repair manual 
that is very detailed for this particular machine.

 The replacement method includes the removal of the logic board and power 
supply. When I look at it i wonder if I have to remove all that. Has anyone 
here done this service? I'm not at all incapable of this but it looks like it's 
not that involved,

 I have a new panel board on the way so when it gets here I'll replace it, also 
can anyone think of another reason the port is data dead. I ran ASD 2.5.8 on 
the machine and it reports all's well.

 One more thing I'll be installing a Jive 5 unit to increase the HDD count to 5 
2TBs is there a heat issue that maybe I can address at the same time? Or should 
that be a separate topic?


John Carmonne
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Re: Pros & Cons of Stacking HDs

[John Musbach]

Replace those droves asap since grinding means failing hard drive.

On 3/10/10, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
>
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
>
>>
>> The sleds provided by Apple, only allow about 1/4" between 2 Seagate
>> HDs (750GB and 500GB ones).
>>
>
> That works just fine. The spacing is just as small in our big rack-
> mounted SAN and that has 12 or 16 big drives in it grinding along 24/7.
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Re: Need some help please

[Derek Jones]

Yeah i'm getting a lot of pinwheels, I'll replace the hard drive,  
thank you.




On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Bruce Johnson  
 wrote:




On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Derek Jones wrote:

My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  
it, I think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  
sure. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.





Sudden onset whining noises can come, pretty much from only four  
sources: the hard drive, the fans, the optical drive and the audio  
system.


If you're experiencing lots of spinning pinwheels, particularly when  
accessing the drive (opening, closing files, etc) it's the hard  
drive. Back up your stuff NOW, and look for a replacement.


If it seems very warm, and you can feel air moving out of the vents  
when the whining is happening, it's likely the fans. Sadly this is  
logic-board replacement time as the fans are part of the logic board  
on most models of these.


On a G4 if you can pull it out into the open and you can run it  
while the case is open. This will help you identify where the sound  
is coming from, down near the hard drive, in front by the optical  
(or zip drive, if present) by the fan, the back of the power supply  
(to id the fan in there).


The audio subsystem can be identified by unplugging any  
speakers...if the noise stops, it's the audio, which will be a  
special case to fix.


Pretty much, whatever you find making the noise, replace that part.

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Re: Need some help please

[Derek Jones]

I bought it off of eBay and it didn't come with one. What should I do?

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:15 PM, John Callahan   
wrote:



Start it up on your OS install disc and see if the whine stops.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Derek Jones wrote:

My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  
it, I think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  
sure. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.



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Re: Need some help please

[Derek Jones]

Is there nothing I can do to fix it?

On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > wrote:





On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Derek Jones   
wrote:
My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use  
it, I think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not  
sure. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.


Suggest you backup the drive contents immediately. It may well be  
dying fast.

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Re: PM G5 front panel FW port

[Richard Gerome]

   I had this happen on a Clamshell and it wasn't a bad FireWire port, (but not 
saying it's in your case), it just could be??? I ended up taking this mother 
board out of the one computer (Graphite and White) and putting it in an (Indigo 
and White) just because I wanted the 466mhz in place of the 366mhz (I knew the 
iPod didn't work but it would still charge) and when I did this my iPod worked 
in the Indigo but wouldn't in the Graphite so I figured it was the 
configuration with the HD??? Just saying before you go and invest in another 
mother board maybe swap it into another computer just to see if it works or 
swap the HD with one that is already set up and running an iPod or what ever 
FireWire devise you are using...




-Original Message-
>From: John Carmonne 
>Sent: Mar 10, 2010 8:56 PM
>To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>Subject: PM G5 front panel  FW port
>
>Hi All
>
> I have a PM G5 2.7 Dual that apparently has a dead FW port,  Kinda strange 
> that the port supplies power but no data transfer??  So I have a repair 
> manual that is very detailed for this particular machine.
>
> The replacement method includes the removal of the logic board and power 
> supply. When I look at it i wonder if I have to remove all that. Has anyone 
> here done this service? I'm not at all incapable of this but it looks like 
> it's not that involved,
>
> I have a new panel board on the way so when it gets here I'll replace it, 
> also can anyone think of another reason the port is data dead. I ran ASD 
> 2.5.8 on the machine and it reports all's well.
>
> One more thing I'll be installing a Jive 5 unit to increase the HDD count to 
> 5 2TBs is there a heat issue that maybe I can address at the same time? Or 
> should that be a separate topic?
>
>
>John Carmonne
>Yorba Linda USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Need some help please

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Derek Jones  wrote:

> Is there nothing I can do to fix it?
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:56 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" <
> fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Derek Jones < 
> jbyun...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My Power Mac G4 keeps making this whining noise when I try to use it, I
>> think It has something to do with the hard drive, but I'm not sure. Any help
>> would be appreciated, thank you.
>>
>
> Suggest you backup the drive contents immediately. It may well be dying
> fast.
>
>  --
>
> 

Backup your irreplacable files right away. Or you will have much more to
worry about than the cost of a new drive. USB drives are a steal these days.
Or burn them to DVDs or even CDs.

The drive is probably factory installed and has seen a lot of revs. They
wear out. It is a throw away ( recycle) item. Part of the " great circle of
life!".



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Re: PM G5 front panel FW port

[Eric Volker]

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM, John Carmonne  wrote:

> Hi All
>
>  I have a PM G5 2.7 Dual that apparently has a dead FW port,  Kinda strange
> that the port supplies power but no data transfer??  So I have a repair
> manual that is very detailed for this particular machine.
>
>  The replacement method includes the removal of the logic board and power
> supply. When I look at it i wonder if I have to remove all that. Has anyone
> here done this service? I'm not at all incapable of this but it looks like
> it's not that involved,
>
>  I have a new panel board on the way so when it gets here I'll replace it,
> also can anyone think of another reason the port is data dead. I ran ASD
> 2.5.8 on the machine and it reports all's well.
>
>  One more thing I'll be installing a Jive 5 unit to increase the HDD count
> to 5 2TBs is there a heat issue that maybe I can address at the same time?
> Or should that be a separate topic?
>
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
>
>
>
Have you tried this? http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1317?viewlocale=en_US

Many other suggestions also abound here:
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/firewire/topic2188.html

Popular choices include resetting the PMU and Open Firmware.

Eric

Other suggestions include resetting PMU and Open Firmware

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Fun with LN2, was: Uses for a Wallstreet

[Clark Martin]

On 3/10/10 4:36 PM, John Niven wrote:

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/no_computers_in_class_professo.php


Message is, don't bring laptop to class as it can be destroyed by 
immersion in LN2.  Anyone remind him that similar effects can be had 
with student and LN2.  Sounds like no one should go to this guy's class.



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Re: Maybe Apple Cinema Display beats Dell after all

[Tom]

Well, the current Apple 24" Cinema Display for sale on the Apple
website does indeed have a glossy screen, and if you look at the
"ratings and reviews" that begin on that same webpage, you notice that
a great many people cannot stand the gloss. It sounds like I would not
like it either, since many of the complainers are using the monitor
for the same sort of work I do myself. I guess I'll end up getting an
older, matte-surface 23" Cinema Display off Ebay.

I cut and pasted below some of the complaints about the glossiness of
the screen just in the first three pages of ten pages of reviews:

"This thing is a freakin' mirror not a monitor. I would NOT buy it
again. It causes me eye strain and the reflections massively interfere
with viewing. After a few weeks of working with all my shades drawn, I
will either return it or buy a an anti-glare film to stick on it. I
have my matte MacBook Pro right next to it and there is no comparison.
The MacBook Pro matte screen works, this one does not. 
Apple will
charge me a 10% restocking fee and make me pay for shipping it back if
I want to return it. Not impressed.

-

"Argh. I just started a new design job and they have me working on
this giant glossy screen. It's driving me nuts with the reflections
from windows behind me, people walking around, etc. It's extremely
difficult / impossible to focus on my work and ignore the reflections
and gives me an instant headache from eye strain. When I get a full
time offer I hope I can request for this to be switched out for a
matte screen.

-

"This monitor is kinda useless. I mean I love the color and the LEDs
give u a bright screen. The huge problem is the glossy finish. Stop
Making GLOSSY screens They are shiny and beautiful but the
functionality is horrible. Every time you are working on photos or
graphics you have to move ur head around trying to dodge the
reflection on ur screen. I hate it!! Thank god I didn't buy it but
apple should be more caring of its graphic designers/photographer
customers knowing that we (at least I do) prefer a matte finish. Look
at all those beautiful 52 inch TV screen out there (THX certified) NOT
ONE is glossy! There's a reason to it. I want apple to bring back the
older CInema HD displays!!

-

"The reflective screens are impossible to use in any kind of a normal
environment. Buy a third party monitor and don't waste your money on
this.

---

"I'm a full-time programmer for Mac & iPhone platform and spend more
10 hours in a day looking at screen. I want to see my source code, but
not my face. This screen is beautiful, but glossy kills all. Please
provide an antiglare option when buying Apple LED Cinema Display and
new iMac.

---

"I use this monitor in a fairly normal UK office (overhead fluorescent
reflectors, big windows) and the glare and reflections make this
monitor practically unusable. At best the reflections are extremely
distracting, at worst they give me a headache.

--

"I can't stand the glare. I paid $1500 for my last CRT monitor in part
because of the quality of the anti-glare coating. I want to see my
work, not myself or things behind me. Why has this escaped Apple?
Back to the Apple Store these go. You would think they would have a
good option for professionals considering they sell $5,000 desktops!
Please, Please provide a matte display

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Airport setup driving me nuts!

[Jake Zeppa]

I just received the Airport Extreme base station I purchased off of eBay (B/G 
version), which was designed to replace my Powermac which I've been using in 
Software base station mode for years, in the hopes of better signal. Anyway, I 
attempted to just use the new base station as my wifi hub, but the signal was 
no better (and I'm also using the DrBott omni antenna). So my next idea was to 
relay the Powermacs wifi signal around the furnace/fireplace which blocks all 
signal into my bedroom. Unfortunately, after 3 hours of fiddling, I was unable 
to get the base station to relay the Powermacs Airport signal.

I believe I had the settings all right. I put the base station into WDS remote 
mode, and plugged in the airport cards ID number as the WDS main MAC address. 
Everything connected fine, and Airport Utility showed a green light, but no 
internet signal ever got to my Powerbook, even though I was right under the 
base station. I guess the million dollar question is can you relay a software 
base station signal, or is the base station limited to repeating other hardware 
base station signals?

I really want/need signal in my room. It's pretty bad that my 1.67DL Powerbook 
gets the same horrible reception as my older 400Ti Powerbook, and even worse is 
my even older Pismo gets 3x the signal of both of them, ugh! I'm now at the 
point of having to physically run ethernet lines under the house, and put the 
base station directly in the room. I really don't want to cut holes in the 
wall, and run wires under the house, so any ideas you guys have I'm open to! 
Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the super long post.

   Jake Zeppa


  

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