Re: Hard drive failing!
Hitachi seems to be doing very well. I have a 1TB drive in my Quad G5 that works fantastically, with 64MB! cache. Paid $129ish for it last year; got it from a local parts store. Better than the old IBM DeathStars they inherited. Either way, I'd take 1TB/64M/7200 over 2TB/32M/7200. Most important is the rev speed followed by the cache. I want to upgrade to a 10K drive, but none are cheap and work with my beloved Gs. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Dan wrote: > At 5:14 PM -0500 1/31/2011, John Callahan wrote: >> >> why would a 32 MB cache, same drive, be cheaper than a 16MB cache drive? > > As technology advances the newer components end up being less expensive than > the older. > > But really, HD pricing has very little to do with specifications, these > days. It's all about sales, rebates, and volume - and vendors betting that > consumers are too stoopid to google around. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
At 5:14 PM -0500 1/31/2011, John Callahan wrote: why would a 32 MB cache, same drive, be cheaper than a 16MB cache drive? As technology advances the newer components end up being less expensive than the older. But really, HD pricing has very little to do with specifications, these days. It's all about sales, rebates, and volume - and vendors betting that consumers are too stoopid to google around. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
I just bought a Hitachi 1TB hard drive for newegg for $50 shipped. Seems to work great. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Thanks for your help. Another question, why would a 32 MB cache, same drive, be cheaper than a 16MB cache drive? On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Dan wrote: I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
On Jan 30, 2:16 am, Jason Brown wrote: > It is a WD though. Couldn't pay me to use one. YMMV but MM has been very > very bad with them. I've had bad luck with WD AND Seagate drives. The only brands I've not had fail on me are Fujitsu and Samsung, but I use those pretty rarely. The 5 year Seagate warranty is nice, though. If you want to count on that, though, I think you have to buy a retail drive as opposed to a bare/OEM model. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Fair enough. I have 5 MDD G4s, along with (too many) TiVos. In 25 Mac years, I've only had one drive fail me, a Seagate in a TiVo. Never had a failed Maxtor or WD. (I know Seagate bought Maxtor) So for me, I have no significant failure experience on any drives. The one SG was under warranty, and they swapped it out based on date code, no hassle over no receipt, and gave me a UPS label. So that fail gave me good vibes on their cust service. On Jan 30, 3:16 am, Jason Brown wrote: > It is a WD though. Couldn't pay me to use one. YMMV but MM has been very > very bad with them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
It is a WD though. Couldn't pay me to use one. YMMV but MM has been very very bad with them. On 1/29/2011 10:34 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Ben's bargains has a 2TB WD from New Egg for $70 after rebate. 2TB! On Jan 29, 10:54 pm, Sean Carroll wrote: Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219&- db=ProductsC.fp3&-lay=WEB&-format=items.htm&-sortfield=SortID&- Max=40&category=intdrivessata&-find Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Ben's bargains has a 2TB WD from New Egg for $70 after rebate. 2TB! On Jan 29, 10:54 pm, Sean Carroll wrote: > >> Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. > > > Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. > > >> Seeking recommendations for replacement. > > Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", > 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. > > http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219&- > db=ProductsC.fp3&-lay=WEB&-format=items.htm&-sortfield=SortID&- > Max=40&category=intdrivessata&-find > > Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Sorry, John - here's a shorter link you won't have to copy and paste: http://resale.headgap.com/ I'm sure you can find your way from there. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Operator Headgap has a factory recertified Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200 RPM, 32 MB cache, SATA, 750 GB going for $59 and change. http://stn2.headgap.com/resale/FMPro?-token=13626219&- db=ProductsC.fp3&-lay=WEB&-format=items.htm&-sortfield=SortID&- Max=40&category=intdrivessata&-find Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing!
At 6:09 PM -0500 1/29/2011, John Callahan wrote: Current (failing) is a Seagate ST3250824AS 250GB Hard Drive. Seagate Barracuda, 3.5", 7200rpm, 8 MB cache, SATA. Seeking recommendations for replacement. Above specs, but with a bigger cache. Currently I think 1 TB drives are going for $60 or less. Google around and be sure to check local sales. Office Despot is pretty good sometimes. Don't be afraid to buy an external and remove the drive mechanism from it. I've gotten quite a few Hitachi and Seagates recently. My personal preference is to avoid WD. LEM Swap. eBay. Meritline. Amazon. OWC. MacConnection. eCost (mostly refirbs but some new). FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive failing
In a message dated 3/22/10 11:16:42 AM, ktilfo...@cox.net writes: > On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: > > > One good thing about Seagate is the 5 year warranty, no receipt > > necessary. > > Not true. I have two Seagate HDs that I bought off LEM-Swap that are > brand new, both with less than 10 hours total time, manufactured in > 2009. I assumed they would be covered by the 5 year warranty, but > alas, these drives were removed from external enclosures, and thus, > the 5 year warranty was voided. I was so mad I could scream. These HDs > are IDENTICAL to every other Seagate HD I've ever seen, and yet > because they're not inside the original external enclosure they were > sold in they get ZERO warranty even though they're brand spanking new. > I don't think this is fair. Their explanation was, "would you warranty > a motor that had been removed from it's car", and I said, "when your > business is selling motors and not cars I think this answer is yes". > It didn't help, I out $250 for brand new Seagate HDs. Buyer beware for > used Seagate hardware, even if it's "new". > Thanks for the heads up. I've not been in that postion yet. That's kinda a bummer because if the drive needs to be in a machine to display SMART info then I guess you wait till the thing pukes on you if it's in an enclosure? That sucks. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: One good thing about Seagate is the 5 year warranty, no receipt necessary. Not true. I have two Seagate HDs that I bought off LEM-Swap that are brand new, both with less than 10 hours total time, manufactured in 2009. I assumed they would be covered by the 5 year warranty, but alas, these drives were removed from external enclosures, and thus, the 5 year warranty was voided. I was so mad I could scream. These HDs are IDENTICAL to every other Seagate HD I've ever seen, and yet because they're not inside the original external enclosure they were sold in they get ZERO warranty even though they're brand spanking new. I don't think this is fair. Their explanation was, "would you warranty a motor that had been removed from it's car", and I said, "when your business is selling motors and not cars I think this answer is yes". It didn't help, I out $250 for brand new Seagate HDs. Buyer beware for used Seagate hardware, even if it's "new". -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
> > > That sounds good, but I'd still appreciate it if you could update this > thread with your experiences going through their RMA process. I've > never had to do it myself and I'm curious how it will turn out for > you. Especially since you won't (right?) be able to give them any > feedback from their SeaTools diagnostic tool. > > > When you first regester on the site they ask the nature of your requet. I stated that I have a ST3500 that is exibiting a S.M.A.R.T error. After you get a case# then go to the Warranty return page. On the warranty return page there are selections for the make, model and OS for the Apple machines, also on their site is a button named "escalate to tech support" this will bypass the SeaTools issue. They will e-mail back an RMA# and complete return instruction including shipping label. It's pretty easy to use I had to try a couple of shots at it due to my own lack of reading the form properly. They are really trying to support the products with exceptional service. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
> > The only drives I've had fail in ten years are Maxtor and Toshiba. > > Then you're lucky. We've had drives of every manufacturer fail. > > > One good thing about Seagate is the 5 year warranty, no receipt nessasary. They just sent me an RMA# with free shipping included. Glad to own stock in the company. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > > The seagate site includes Apple and all the OS's as tabbed choices while > filling > out the online form, so the Apple PC issue are no problem That sounds good, but I'd still appreciate it if you could update this thread with your experiences going through their RMA process. I've never had to do it myself and I'm curious how it will turn out for you. Especially since you won't (right?) be able to give them any feedback from their SeaTools diagnostic tool. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 4:06 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have mostly seagate drives and I've never had one fail. I've got a few western digitals and they've held up. The hitachi in my iBook has 2 years on it and looks good. 2 samsung 500GB SATA's in my main tower have 3 years of hard service on them. I haven't ever had a maxtor last more than a year or so. -- The only drives I've had fail in ten years are Maxtor and Toshiba. Then you're lucky. We've had drives of every manufacturer fail. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 9:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The seagate site includes Apple and all the OS's as tabbed choices while filling out the online form, so the Apple PC issue are no problem besides I think the S.M.A.R.T is the test bed factor for the drives, I understand the drive is generating the warning and not the machine?? SMART warnings are generated by the controller onboard the drive, yes. *Reading* that data requires the native controller on the host, which is why you can[t access SMART data via USB enclosures. SMART was designed for use on internal system and data drives. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
The seagate site includes Apple and all the OS's as tabbed choices while filling out the online form, so the Apple PC issue are no problem besides I think the S.M.A.R.T is the test bed factor for the drives, I understand the drive is generating the warning and not the machine?? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > > I made a request for warranty service from Seagate's > site so maybe I'll get lucky on this one. > Hm, this didn't occur to me before but whenever I've looked at going down the RMA under warranty path before I've always been in a Windows PC frame of mind. I'm not sure how they work things when you're using a Mac, especially a PPC Mac. I am used to a manufacturer asking to first have the drive checked by running their own diagnostic program. Of course, I wouldn't be at all surprised if whatever diagnostic program they want used only runs on a windows (or at least x86) PC. Not saying they won't replace the drive if it's defective. Just saying I'm not quite sure how Seagate will ask you to handle this. Maybe someone else on the list has already done a drive RMA for a PPC Mac and can flesh out how that worked for them? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
> > The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was > manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site > you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on > your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive > (... and possibly the model number?). > > -irrational john I made a request for warranty service from Seagate's site so maybe I'll get lucky on this one. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
> The drive manufacturers don't care when you bought the drive. The > serial number of your drive is used to determine when the warranty on > it expires. > > The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was > manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site > you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on > your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive > (... and possibly the model number?). As soon as the drive is done being copied I'll check for the warranty, Thanks for this info. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > I ran the verify and also the repair with Drive Genius 2. Now I'll run > the integrity Sustained Write test and see what that produces. It is usally pointed out in situations such as this one that only YOU know how valuable your data is to you. If it were me and I had seen a drive failure indication I thought potentially credible then I wouldn't even look at the icon of a test program until I had backed up/saved any data I truly valued from that drive. I certainly wouldn't run any type of sustained test which might elicit a drive failure until I'd backed up all that I could. Once the data is "safe", then I'd happily true to beat the crap out of it with hopes of returning it under warranty. But I'd only do that after I saved as much of my data as could. But maybe that's just me. > I think the drive is about a year and a half old so I wonder about > Seatate giving me a new one also I don't have the receipt. The drive manufacturers don't care when you bought the drive. The serial number of your drive is used to determine when the warranty on it expires. The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive (... and possibly the model number?). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
>> > I have mostly seagate drives and I've never had one fail. I've got a few > western digitals and they've held up. The hitachi in my iBook has 2 years on > it and looks good. 2 samsung 500GB SATA's in my main tower have 3 years of > hard service on them. I haven't ever had a maxtor last more than a year or > so. > -- The only drives I've had fail in ten years are Maxtor and Toshiba. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I understand that a hard drive made by seagate would fail. I have had 3 had drives for my laptop all from segate, and they all failed. now i have my western digital HDD 750GB and it works for 2 years now. also, my windows server 2008 system back at mt place has had a hard drive replacement from segate, and i got western digital drives for it, now it runs smoothly. Here's a tip: unless you want your data lost, I won't ever recommend a seagate hdd. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. Segate drives have low quality and most crash within the first 1-3 years. I am not saying any crap, i am simply stating the facts based on the events that happened to me, my friends, and others who buy seagate drives. if you are one of those lucky people who don't have segate drives die on you, then well, obviousy you have a "Rare" good drive that was made by seagate. its not the company that is bad, it's the drives and the way they make them, and the parts. =(. I'm sorry but it's true. I have mostly seagate drives and I've never had one fail. I've got a few western digitals and they've held up. The hitachi in my iBook has 2 years on it and looks good. 2 samsung 500GB SATA's in my main tower have 3 years of hard service on them. I haven't ever had a maxtor last more than a year or so. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Chance Reecher wrote: Apple doesn't make hard drives, they just stick their logo on drives made by other manufacturers. I wonder if apple drives have different firmware? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Apple doesn't make hard drives, they just stick their logo on drives made by other manufacturers. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
> > I understand that a hard drive made by seagate would fail. I have had 3 > had drives for my laptop all from segate, and they all failed. now i have my > western digital HDD 750GB and it works for 2 years now. also, my windows > server 2008 system back at mt place has had a hard drive replacement from > segate, and i got western digital drives for it, now it runs smoothly. > Here's a tip: unless you want your data lost, I won't ever recommend a > seagate hdd. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. > Segate drives have low quality and most crash within the first 1-3 years. I > am not saying any crap, i am simply stating the facts based on the events > that happened to me, my friends, and others who buy seagate drives. if you > are one of those lucky people who don't have segate drives die on you, then > well, obviousy you have a "Rare" good drive that was made by seagate. its > not the company that is bad, it's the drives and the way they make them, and > the parts. =(. I'm sorry but it's true. > Sorry buddy, you are in the same tight corner that i was in when my laptop died on me., -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Most external drive enclosures and docks do not have the ability to work with SMART. Most docks/enclosures don't have the firmware to allow SMART info to pass. This is unrelated to usb or firewire or ide or sata. If SMART Utility says the drive is failing, it's failing. It can't tell you how much time you have, it can only mention that signs of failure exist. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
>> >> > > Which Drive Genius 2 test did you run? I suspect you just ran the Scan (for > bad sector) test. I've got a stack of drives that pass that, multiple times. > But the same drives have failed the Integrity Check test, especially when set > to do Sustained Read and/or Sustained Write for more than 5 minutes (I use 30 > minutes most of the time). > I ran the verify and also the repair with Drive Genius 2. Now I'll run the integrity Sustained Write test and see what that produces. > SMART is much more sophisticated. It looks for and picks up all kinds of > anomalies that Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior don't. It only > takes one little anomaly to turn the icon red, if I understand correctly. > That's an early warning of impending failure. I've seen drives run for months > with a red icon, and I've seen them die shortly after the icon turns red. It > all depends on the failure mode(s). Click on the SmartReporter icon and then > Display Log, which should give an indication of the type of failure the > built-in self-diagnostic SMART utility has found. > > Whatever you do, make sure you get a new drive and that Seagate replaces the > one with a SMART warning. > > Jim Scott > I think the drive is about a year and a half old so I wonder about Seatate giving me a new one also I don't have the receipt. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:10 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Jim Scott wrote: > >> >> On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: >>> I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. >>> >>> >>> SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting >>> a failure, then the drive is bad. >>> >>> I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. >> >> Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on >> which SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART >> capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a >> utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive >> issues. >> >> > I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART > situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in > an external enclosure. Which Drive Genius 2 test did you run? I suspect you just ran the Scan (for bad sector) test. I've got a stack of drives that pass that, multiple times. But the same drives have failed the Integrity Check test, especially when set to do Sustained Read and/or Sustained Write for more than 5 minutes (I use 30 minutes most of the time). SMART is much more sophisticated. It looks for and picks up all kinds of anomalies that Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior don't. It only takes one little anomaly to turn the icon red, if I understand correctly. That's an early warning of impending failure. I've seen drives run for months with a red icon, and I've seen them die shortly after the icon turns red. It all depends on the failure mode(s). Click on the SmartReporter icon and then Display Log, which should give an indication of the type of failure the built-in self-diagnostic SMART utility has found. Whatever you do, make sure you get a new drive and that Seagate replaces the one with a SMART warning. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA This is merely anecdotal evidence, but I had a 500GB SATA Seagate come up with a SMART failure in an app called "SMART Utility", but both Disk Utility and SMART Reporter passed it. SMART Reporter showed much more detail than just a generic SMART status; it showed that ^ This should be SMART Utility, *not* SMART Reporter. My bad, and apologies to the list. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA This is merely anecdotal evidence, but I had a 500GB SATA Seagate come up with a SMART failure in an app called "SMART Utility", but both Disk Utility and SMART Reporter passed it. SMART Reporter showed much more detail than just a generic SMART status; it showed that the drive had overheated in the past, and had 7 bad sectors that couldn't be remapped. That drive did eventually die, so proceed with caution. SMART Utility is a paid app, but will let you run it for free a few times in demo mode. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The drive is PATA I put it in an external enclosure to be able to run Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior on it connected to the G5 PM via Firewire because the G4 MDD chokes on the drive. Its probably bad ... by choking if you mean folders on it don't open right away ... spinning beach ball ... etc. Maybe replace the ATA cable if it was crimped ... but its probably gone bad. Might check out SATA controller and HDs as well ... PATAs are supposedly becoming scarce. Nevertheless, I believe an ATA133 PATA HD will be fine on a ATA100 bus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:10 AM, iJohn wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >> I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it >> to my PM G5 Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify >> S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. > > Most likely the reason you can not access the S.M.A.R.T. data has > nothing to do with IDE versus SATA but is a consequence of using an > external enclosure. > > (FWIW, I'm not sure what you meant by the above. Are you implying that > the hard drive you are having problems with is a PATA drive? If that's > true and your G5 is SATA, then how were you using the drive in your > G5?) The drive is PATA I put it in an external enclosure to be able to run Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior on it connected to the G5 PM via Firewire because the G4 MDD chokes on the drive. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Jim Scott wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> >> On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: >> >>> I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? >>> Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. >> >> >> SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a >> failure, then the drive is bad. >> >> I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. > > Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on which > SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART > capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a > utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive > issues. > > I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it > to my PM G5 Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify > S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. Most likely the reason you can not access the S.M.A.R.T. data has nothing to do with IDE versus SATA but is a consequence of using an external enclosure. (FWIW, I'm not sure what you meant by the above. Are you implying that the hard drive you are having problems with is a PATA drive? If that's true and your G5 is SATA, then how were you using the drive in your G5?) Unless you are using eSATA, you won't be able to access the S.M.A.R.T. data. My understanding is that there is no support in (the current) protocol used to attach an external drive via USB to retrieve S.M.A.R.T. data. I'm guessing (but don't know for certain) that this is also the case with firewire attached external drives. This is extremely annoying (to me) but I don't know of any way around it if you use USB to access the external drive. I remember reading a vague comment once that some extension to the mass storage attachment protocol (?) was planned which would allow accessing S.M.A.R.T. data from USB attached drives. I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to show up. (Maybe it'll work with USB 3.0? One can dream, no? :) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because >> when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. > > > SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a > failure, then the drive is bad. > > I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on which SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive issues. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because >> when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. > > > SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a > failure, then the drive is bad. > > I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group Thanks for the excuse to be off to Fry's in search of a suitable replacement. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because >> when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. > > If you use something like SMARTReporter you'll get a full readout of what > problems it's finding with the HD. OK so does this mean my processor is not an issue here? Also can I put a an Ultra ATA 133 HDD in the G4 MDD it has a ATA 100 now and the BUS speed is 100. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. If you use something like SMARTReporter you'll get a full readout of what problems it's finding with the HD. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Mike Linnett wrote: > I'd give data rescue ii a go on it, I think they have a free trial, and > you'll need at least one drive with a fair bit of free space on it > > On 21 Mar 2010, at 08:24, John Carmonne wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I have a Seagate 500 Gig in a G4 MDD that just showed red and the S.M.A.R.T >> says it's failing and I can't get files off it. Anyone know a way to get the >> files off? I have 320 GIGs of movies on it. >> it mounts and I can read it . I ran Drive Genius 2 on it but no cigar. The >> drive is only about 14 months old and only used for storage it has 10.5.8 on >> it. >> >> >> John Carmonne >> Yorba Linda USA I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it to my PM G% Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. but i was able run Disk Utility and DiskWarrior and Maintenance on it and all other functions are working OK. I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. I recently swapped out the Dual 1. Gig processor with a Dual 1.25 and I wonder if that could cause this problem?? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
I'd give data rescue ii a go on it, I think they have a free trial, and you'll need at least one drive with a fair bit of free space on it On 21 Mar 2010, at 08:24, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a Seagate 500 Gig in a G4 MDD that just showed red and the S.M.A.R.T says it's failing and I can't get files off it. Anyone know a way to get the files off? I have 320 GIGs of movies on it. it mounts and I can read it . I ran Drive Genius 2 on it but no cigar. The drive is only about 14 months old and only used for storage it has 10.5.8 on it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list +unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
