Re: [Audyssey] smugglers 4 crew combat?
I downloaded the demo to try this one out, but I can't find the trade icon mentioned in the first step of the tutorial, what am I missing here? And I did use the jaws cursor to look all over the page. Thanks for any help, che - Original Message - From: "dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:32 AM Subject: [Audyssey] smugglers 4 crew combat? > Hi. > > I was wondering if anyone had tried the update 1.0H for smugglers 4 which > makes the sensor screen and crew combat screen accessible. The sensor > screen is great, but I'm having trouble with crew combat, I'm not sure if > this is an access issue, or just a me being thick issue, so if anyone else > has tried it, please let me know. > > You can get it here: http://www.nielsbauergames.com/updates.html > > Oh btw, you'll have to have the full version of the game to play the crew > combat, sinse you need to buy a corvet class ship to engage in crew > combat. Stil, if you've got the demo version, you might find the sensor > screen rather fun. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi all, I purchased Smugglers 4 this afternoon, as I like to support any mainstream developer that is willing to include features to make their games more accessible. But so far, this is a joke I must say. Either that, or I am seriously missing something here. I understand this game wasn't designed with the blind in mind, so I figured I'd have to use the jaws cursor a good bit, I have no problem with that, but I haven't even done the first part of the tutorial and I am showing signs of carpel tunnel syndrome here. When the tutorial says the planet you need to go to has been marked for you for example, I arrow all over the place trying to find said planet to no avail, so here I am stuck with no planet to go. You folks that are playing this game, is this thing actually fairly smooth to play with a screenreader, or should I just go back to playing Madden 09 on my Wii and forget about it if I am not willing to arrow around dozens of times to get one thing done? I had thoughts of creating scripts for this if it turned out to be playable, but right now I don't see that as a possibility. Someone please tell me I am missing something here, because the game sounds really cool. and yes, I have turned on compatibility mode, (thanks ShadowDragon), and I have looked at the relevant parts of the manual, even though it is in the dreaded .pdf format. Signing out from near Alpha Centauri. Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Hi ShadowDragon, I did download and unzip the patch to the smugglers 4 directory, so I think I am up to date. Could you walk through a short sequence, for example attacking a ship so I know if mine is running properly with the new patch? any other sequence would work fine as well I think. also, have you created any jaws scripts for this, or know of anyone that has? thanks, che - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to > click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've > never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But > the > developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be > willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are > they're > highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it > doesn't > read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the > game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later > missions, > get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew combat > and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but > that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys all > running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is > accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required > to > go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic > because > it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible > yet, > but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have > work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start > having better luck with the game. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable?
Ok, I am working on some basic jaws scripts for this thing, but somehow I got into the scanning mode and the only options I have are attack and communicate back, how does one get out of this mode? thanks, che - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > Hi ShadowDragon, > I did download and unzip the patch to the smugglers 4 directory, so I > think I am up to date. > Could you walk through a short sequence, for example attacking a ship so > I > know if mine is running properly with the new patch? any other sequence > would work fine as well I think. > also, have you created any jaws scripts for this, or know of anyone that > has? > thanks, > che > > - Original Message - > From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 Is this really playable? > > >> Have to say I'm a bit confused. I don't have the problems with having to >> click around a lot and such. The tutorial is kind of a pain I admit. I've >> never made it through the tutorial, don't think its very accessible. But >> the >> developer is constantly working on the compatibility mode. Maybe he'd be >> willing to fix up the tutorial so the icons would show up? Odds are >> they're >> highlighted oddly when the tutorial wants you to look for it, so it >> doesn't >> read as the text icon but instead as the graphic. Personally I think the >> game is pretty awesome. Especially when you get up into the later >> missions, >> get yourself a battleship and can participate in fleet combat, crew >> combat >> and ground raids. Yeah you have to use the jaws cursor quite a bit, but >> that's sort of what the jaws cursor was made for. *shrug* Are you guys >> all >> running the latest version? In the version I have almost everything is >> accessible. There's a little guesswork, for example when you're required >> to >> go somewhere for a mission the textualized icon changes to a graphic >> because >> it gets highlighted differently, and fleet combat isn't very accessible >> yet, >> but I'm sure in the next update both issues will be either fixed or have >> work started on them. I reported both this morning. Hope you all start >> having better luck with the game. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Smugglers 4 planets
Apologies if I missed the answer to this, but how do you find particular planets in the game? I need to get to jupiter for a mission, but I don't see it on any of the screens. Is that a part of the game that just isn't accessible yet? If so, that is a bummer for taking missions on. later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 4 planets
When I go to galaxy, I get all the colony names, at least that is what I think they are. Are these on particular planets? For instance, is New Italy tied to one planet, so if I go there I could go to that particular planet? The only objects I see for the Sol system are sol, saturn, earth and the moon. What should I be looking for here so I might get to jupiter or any other planet? thanks, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] smugglers 4 moving up
Hi guys, How do you go about upgrading your ship, or is that even worth doing in the early stages of the game? I have about 50,000 credits now, and I don't see where to buy a new ship or upgrade the current one. Thanks, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] rail racer questions
Hi, this is Che, the developer of rail racer, sorry for the delayed response, been busy with other stuff the past few weeks. Regarding multi player racing, you are given a list of tracks to race on, once you select a track, it is started on my server and is open for other racers to join. naming the race is not necessary, just let your friends know what track to meet on. We have tested races with 20 players at once with no slow down, although the average race is 3 or 4 players. as it stands, you cannot limit the number of racers. if you are used to top speed, rail racers MP racing isn't like that at all. instead of connecting to another players computer to race, you connect to my high speed dedicated server, which makes things much easier and more reliable, no looking up IP addresses and all that. as for a tutorial, i haven't done one, though I can if it is needed. however, i do include MP instructions in the online manual, which can be located at my site: www.blindAdrenaline.com From the feedback I have received from players, this is the best online system currently available to us blind gamers, due to the ease of use and reliability of the dedicated server, and will be the model for my upcoming games, one of which should be released in time for christmas, so keep up with the list here, as i will be announcing it here when it is ready for play. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, I will be checking the list here more often the next few weeks. Take care, Che(pronounced Shay) www.blindAdrenaline.com Games from one of us, for all of us. - Original Message - From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [Audyssey] rail racer questions Hi there, Looking to order rail racer. Have some questions about multiplayer racing and other things. 1. I want to get this for more than 1 computer. Are the keys computer based? 2. When I join a game, do I get a list of games to join? Or if I start a game, can I name it? 3. What if I'd only like to have 1 person race me? Is there a way to control that? 4. What ports do I have to have open on my router when I start a game? 5. How do classes work? How much money to you get for getting in first place? How many opponents are there in each race? 6. Does anyone know if Che's done a multiplayer tutorial- or am I missing something? thanks contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] rail racer questions
Hi, Sorry, I don't think I made it clear in my previous post , (getting a bit dsoft in the head in my old age), I try to be generous with folks that have multiple computers, as I do myself, and it just isn't feasible to buy a separate license for each, or really fair for that matter in my opinion, so I allow an extra license for those with another computer, but you will need to email me directly after purchase to receive it. Also, I hope to have a new tournament started in the next couple of weeks for all those that might be interested. Happy racing, Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Top 5 Games this Christmas
Groan, we went through all this earlier this year rememberguys, it just turned into such a case of two monkeys banging a football the idea got abandoned. Why not just list the 20 top games in two categories either free or commercial and be done with it? Otherwise we'll be debating into 2010 what categories to include, whether this game is 2d, or that game should be in two categories, etc. etc. etc. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Top 5 Games this Christmas Hello Jason, I think this is a fantastic idea. Though, at the moment the majority of accessible games seam to fall into two major catagories. the first is board and card games. The second is classic arcade. There is a third catagory of FPS games like Sarah, Shades of Doom, and Monkey Business that is starting to get more interest. Now, by top five Christmas games I am assuming these would exclude any and all free games. That drastically shrinks the game pool a lot. For example, Jim Kitchen's games are all free, but nice little time waisters. The Games for the Blind has some similar games like Battleship, Yatzi, etc but they are not free. As a result you would end up with a very scued comparison between Jim's games and Games For the Blind's projects. Most of us like Jim's games because they are free, and they use Sapi 5 directly. That isn't saying Games For the Blind's Yatzi is any better or worse than Jim's version, but everyone I know has a preference for Jim Kitchen's version. So if you excluded Jim's games based on price then someone like Games For The Blind would automatically get ranked higher then it normally would get if it was polled side by side with Jim Kitchen's versions of the same games. I'm saying all of this to say that polling for the top five Christmas games isn't as easy as you think. We are a very small community of developers and as a result there is a lot of issues to figure out before running a poll. GMA Games makes games like Shades of Doom, Lonewolf, and GMA Tank Commander, which are certainly among the higher end of accessible gaming. They are liked for their replay value and realism. Unfortunately, until my own Genesis engine is completed there really isn't anything else to compare them to. Lonewolf and Tank Commander are a one of a kind games. I wouldn't consider trying to compare them to Super Liam, Troopenum, etc because it comes down to comparing apples and oranges. You might get away with comparing Sarah with Shades of Doom which is alright since they are both FPS titles, but different genres. You run into a similar issue with say side-scrollers. Right now officially there are only two or three. I think they are Hunter, Tarzan JR., and Super Liam. Hunter and Super Liam are both commercial, but Tarzan has gone freeware. I am also currently developing a side-scroller called Mysteries of the Ancients, but it won't b ready for the Christmas season. On 11/5/08, Jason Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All, I have posted a similar message on Audiogames.net and Dark there also suggested I post here. I'm new to accessible games so please bear with me. I work on the webteam at the UK charity Action for Blind People and I would like to start promoting accessible games through our site. As a starter I thought it would be a good idea to post a 'Top 5 Games this Christmas' list which I would like to develop further in the New Year possibly with reviews but more likely with promotion of and links to AudioGames.net and Audyssey.org and their users. I'm not entirely sure how it might work if we don't have a definitive list to vote on to begin with. So with Dark's help I thought maybe we could run a submissions form on the Action for Blind People website where everybody could submit their favourite games by interface type; *Text based *3D Audio game *2D Audio game Interface type is for simplicity reasons. At the moment I don't know enough about the games to be getting involved in genre listings and would like to keep it simple this time round. Maybe we could look to develop this in the New Year. After a week of submissions I will count them up and put the top games up in each category for a public vote from which we would have a 'Top Games this Christmas' winners list Slightly crude I know but it would be a start. I don't think the polling system we have on the Action site is sophisticated enough to run a proper poll with a number of lists but I will investigate further. Any suggestions or help greatly appreciated. Many thanks Jason Jason Bell Digital Media Officer Action for Blind People Tel: 0207 635 4902 Fax: 0207 635 4899 Action for Blind People is an expe
Re: [Audyssey] spelling
Hi to Will, Perhaps you could join the classroom yourself and learn a bit of english grammar. Perhaps once you graduated you would know what a run on sentence is. Perhaps after that, you could move over to the manners and etiquette classroom and pick up a few pointers. Perhaps after that, you could go out and contribute something to the community instead of standing back and taking cheap shots at someone that is doing work benefitting others without a dime to show for it. Perhaps if people patted the backs of those that donate their time to help others out, instead of jumping on them for insignificant mistakes, this would be a better world. Perhaps... - Original Message - From: "Will Lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:31 AM Subject: [Audyssey] spelling hi to dark considering you are the chief newsgiver on audiogames.net i suggest you take english class lol your spelling is atrocious --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] half life2 mod
What are you referring to here, is this a mod for the blind or something else? - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] half life2 mod Hi all. just looked at the mod, its described as full version, not sure what they mean by that but to me that means a mod which is a standalone thing. there is an installer which I am pulling down or rather waiting for servers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] half life2 mod
Sorry, had my messages collapsed and saw this one before the previous thread, helps if you keep a topic in one thread if you can for folks that blow through messages with collapse on. later, che - Original Message - From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] half life2 mod What are you referring to here, is this a mod for the blind or something else? - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] half life2 mod Hi all. just looked at the mod, its described as full version, not sure what they mean by that but to me that means a mod which is a standalone thing. there is an installer which I am pulling down or rather waiting for servers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Testers needed for Hearts Online game
Hi all, I've been developing an online accessible hearts game over the past few months, and it is now at a stage where I would like to open it up for more testing. If you are into card games at all, you will really like this one. It has a unique user interface, and since it connects through a dedicated server, connecting to a game is a breeze. If you aren't familiar with the game of hearts, it has remained one of the top card games in the world for decades due to its addictive nature. It is very easy to learn, not so easy to master. The online version is completely playable as is, but I haven't added much in the way of sound effects and the like. I would like to add perhaps 6 or 8 testers to the beta team, so there will be more games available online for players to connect to. As it stands, there is no artificial intelligence in the game, so 4 players are required to be online to play. The game requires .net framework 2.0 and of course an internet connection. If you have any general questions about the game, feel free to post them here on list. If you want to be a tester, send me a message off list to my email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be adding the new testers over the next few days. Take care, Che (Pronounced Shay) Blind Adrenaline Simulations Games by one of us, for all of us www.blindAdrenaline.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] games that are not high deffinition audio compatible
Hi sean, as a test, turn off your wireless connection if you have one and see how that affects the crackling. For a while it was the only way I could get the crackling to stop on my new desktop with a high end delta 1010 card in it, then i reassigned the dma and fixed it altogether. later che - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games that are not high deffinition audio compatible Hmmm teraformers use mp3s not sure about mudsplat, I suspect its the card, everything crackles. Drivers are now updated to the latest on the laptop website. Crackle is still there, in fact still loads to much but its a little better. Not that I will but I wnder how much it would cost just to get rid of the hd card and use a standard no frills card like an old soundmax. This hd stuff does seem to rock but this card is not the full feature card. At 07:15 a.m. 3/12/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Have you checked the sound format of the files of the games you are having a problem with? Most of my games now use 16 bit 22 k format but some games like our old DOS games used 8 bit 11 k as they were four times smaller. I noticed that they do not sound as good with my new computer as the 16 bit 22 k ones sound. They did sound fine with my older sound card. Phil - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games that are not high deffinition audio compatible No tom its a realtech hd on a laptop. there are standard drivers for it but my toshiba download site does not have the latest and judging with all the crashes I had after upgrading last time, I suspect that the drivers I have are specially designed for this laptop as there are no new updates for anything from toshiba. I don't even know if things will work well or not. Ofcause when ever I install anything on here there is always a chance it will be rood. I can't run klango for the same reason the system gets unstable, I have to uninstall it, and restart it a few times as well as do some other things to get it back to a reasonable state. I Only reconise the crackles in headphones but they are getting quite bad. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] nop2 origional installer
Hi Sean, When I go to your link, it says password protected file, you got a password? - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] nop2 origional installer Hi. Ok here is the origional installer. you can choose what you want and things. http://www.divshare.com/download/6012411-b42 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] TOp Speed 2.1 startup error,
Yes, please let us know if this fixes your problem on list, as I had to have people reinstall direct x to fix a problem with the online hearts game as well, even though the version numbers were up to date. Perhaps something to do with correcting some .net framework issues, not really sure, but either way it did the trick. later che - Original Message - From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Audyssey gamers discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] TOp Speed 2.1 startup error, Hey, Could all people with the top speed startup error or other Top Speed bugs update their DirectX? May be this will solve some bugs. Please let us hear on this list how it works after updating. You can download the actual DirectX on http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en Thanks in advance, and regards, Leonard de Ruijter e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for October 17 - 31 2007
Good point Phil. If I may make a suggestion here, lots of these messages were quick responses to an individual point or question, so at the end of the day there would suddenly be like 5 or 6 messages from Thomas responding to various posts. Something I did when I was getting a lot of Rail Racer traffic on here was create one reply message, then jot down quick notes in that message about each email I neded to respond to. That way, I was able to go to the reply message after reading the days posts and send out one email that covered all the items brought up that day. This helped keep traffic to a minimum, as well as cut the time it took for me to reply to questions and suggestions. Hope that all makes sense. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for October 17 - 31 2007 > Hi Tom, > Yes a quarter of the messages were about Montezuma's Revenge, but half of > them were from you! > smiles, > Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] James North?
From what I have gathered about North, we are better off without him. He had nothing but disdain for blind gamers, charging the highest prices for games that weren't worth it in my opinion, and didn't give a crap what users had to say about his games. Compare this to developers like Thomas and Phil who keep in constant contact with their customers and try to implement ideas as much as is feasible. Add to this the screw job he put on Thomas with Monty and Raceway and you have an entity that at best laid down a negative influence on the accessible gaming comunity. Bottom line, fare thee well James North, and don't let the digital door hit you in the butt crack on the way out. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Developer input was Re: James North?
I would like to point out something here that I have noticed time and time again on this list and has more than once made me consider joining the ranks of the developers that don't bother subscribing even though this is one of the very few gaming lists available out there. When a topic that derives negativity is posted, people come out of the woodwork to comment on it, but when I post a message asking for commentary or suggestions for a new online RPG game, something that is potentially revolutionary and has not been done before, something that I have proven I can do based on the features of Rail Racer, I get maybe 3 or 4 responses. I don't know if this is due to the average age of the members of this list, or just the general indifference people have toward putting some effort in helping grow our little community, but it is very disturbing to say the least. I will leave it to other developers to comment on their own experiences if they wish, but for me, the response to Rail Racer was overall a dissapointment. The demo was downloaded over 2000 times, with around 200 sales to date. Most of the time I get comments like "It is too hard to learn" or "I don't want to put the time into figuring out how to get good lap times". I just don't get this. Gamers ask for deepr games with more replay value, and when it is delivered, they shy away from it. Rail Racer, like any endeavor that is richly rewarding is not a game you jump in and start doing well at at first. You have to work at it a bit, but that time and effort will be rewarded, just ask anyone that is currently playing in the RR tournaments. Please don't get me wrong, I really appreciate those that have offered their support, both in ideas , suggestions and by buying my game, but the amount of complaints about difficulty and the posts on other forums regarding trying to crack my hard work are about equal to the number of supportive posts. This is not the way to a healthy and thriving gaming community folks. I am afraid this is a hard lesson that USA Games is about to find out when they release their first commercial game hopefully later this year. Based on the amount of enthusiasm shown on list for the free beta versions, I hope not however, I do not wish any develop the demoralizing experience of dealing with the negativity towards their work I have had to endure. I wonder if a gaming list devoted to adults only, where the overall level of discussion might be on a higher level would be beneficial to the gaming community. There are a few hundred members of this list, something like that? But look at the statistics Jim put out, there are only about a dozen members actually posting much, that is very disappointing. On the topic of North, I came into the party pretty late, right at the time he left the list in fact, so all I know about him are the actions he took from that time on, and as Thomas has said, perhaps I only got the Mr. Hyde side of things, but if any of you think that James North was a good samaritan for handing over the rights to Raceway and Montazuma's Revenge, think again. He was only hoping to hold onto the pre order money he had already collected, several thousand dollars worth in fact. Thomas was stuck with code he had to completely rewrite, resulting in him ultimately giving away several thousand dollars worth of sales for all his hard work, and hoping that the post release sales will be worth it. North pulled one there, no matter how you cut it, and I have read some of his comments about the blind commmunity posted elsewhere, and trust me, they are less than flattering, basically calling us a bunch of bozos. As far as I know, no comment I made about North was ever read by him, so I had nothing to do with his quitting the AG community, but back to my first point, people on list are too worried about jumping on one bandwagon or another on this list, and not concerned enough with giving us developers potential support. Please remember, this community is only as good as we make it, and developers cannot make it without the communities help. For those of you that do put effort in helping us developers out, my heart felt appreciation goes out to you, and I think you know who you are, for the rest of you, um, here is a rotten banana peel, mooahahHahah. Officially dismanteling my soapbox now... BTW, this is a pretty long post, so if you respond please be sure and delete the existing text when you reply, thanks. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regard
Re: [Audyssey] Developer input was Re: James North?
ah, I see Charles. That is unfortunate that you limit your possibilities that way, because you are missing out on a h e double hocky sticks of a game, grin. Rail Racer may not be in the standard mold of racing games, but the essence of what makes racing fun is all there in spades. As for myself, I try every accesible game that comes down the pipe, because you never know what you might find, no matter what the genre or setting. For instance, I hate platform games as a rule, but I will continue to check out Thomas' Monty, because you never know what kind of unique elements it might have, what I might find as a gamer, or what might turn up that interests me as a developer. If all gamers took a more open minded attitude towards new games, especially ones that push the envelope of blind gaming, I think we would all be better off, eh? Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Developer input was Re: James North? > One reason that a lot of gamers, myself included, are not commenting on an > RPG is that we don't play them. As far as rail racer, I did not buy it > because of the concept. A racing game I buy will be a game in which I > control the car on a traditional race course, and a format of racing I'm > interested in. I would not buy a formula 1 racing game because that's not > the kind of racing I am into. The game may be of high quality with loads > of > replay value, but it's just not my cup of tea. I cannot knock or give > accurate credit to the game, having not played it enough to hold my > interest, because there isn't interest currently. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Fighting game was RPG games
Yes, I am actually considering releasing a fighting game before the RPG game, just so I can fine tune the fighting elements of the RPG first, especially since I have received a good bit of emails showing interest in a fighting game that can be played online with tournaments and the like. Furthermore, a full blown online RPG would be very time consuming, probably taking upwards of 2 years to produce a solid beta, so releasing a fighting game as a stop gap interests me. Once I finish my current card game project, I will make a decision one way or the other on this. As for the football game, I have been collecting some sound effects for it here and there, so it will definately be coming in the future. Thanks for the input. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Developer input was Re: James North?
Well guys, I never said anything about Rail Racer failing, far from it, we have a dedicated core of players that play it day in and day out, especially in the tournaments. I had hoped to move about 300 units, and that may come to pass yet as good word of mouth spreads about my game, but right now I'm right around 200 units sold. I did not get into this to make lots of money, that just isn't going to happen in the blind gaming market, but I am disappointed when people don't even give it a fair chance. I have seen this quite a bit with Sound RTS in fact, as people can't jump right in and start succeeding immediately, so a lot of them just never try again. If I wanted to make more money at this, I would just continually release another dumb shooter, or another platform game which seems to be quite popular on list here, but does nothing at all for me as a developer, as I want to test new ideas and gaming possibilities that haven't been done before. If players give Rail Racer an honest shot, and find it is not the game for them, I have no problem with that, but those that run it for 5 minutes, then delete it because it is a challenge to get good at, I just don't understand that at all. Very few things in life that are rewarding are easy. If I had given up on Sound RTS the first time I lost, I would have missed out on one of the best gaming experiences available for the blind community at any price. In the end, these people are robbing themselves of a lot of fun and challenge, as well as some dedicated developers out of much deserved sales. I implore those of you that have given up on games because they seem too difficult to go back and try again, some of the best gaming experiences available out there are some of the most challenging. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] RPG games
Ryan wrote: I just want to say that I did listen to the previews of the RP game you're working on.. It's something I'd definitely sit down and try even though I don't usually play those types of games. end quote. Hi Ryan, I wonder if perhaps you haven't confused my RPG with another game, as there is no audio preview of it available, at least not one that I have made. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Raceway Trailer
As a racing fan and race game developer I'd like to weigh in on the trailer here. You guys are way too hung up on the music here I think. The choice of music is good I think, but why not put the actual Stones track in there? Nobody is going to pinch you for using copyrighted music for it. I used the Kill Bill theme for the Rail Racer spot, and I think it sounds great, and helps add to the excitement level of the trailer immensely. If you haven't heard it, you can check it out here: "http://blindadrenaline.com/downloadCounter/download.php?x=Rail+Racer+spot I would also seriously consider adding winamp support in the game, as it allows the player to listen to whatever they want from their own collection, keeps the developer from having to waste time producing music tracks, and is really easy to program in to boot. As in Rail Racer, I plan on having this feature in all my future games, as players that want to listen to music as they play the game love it. If the aim of the Raceway trailer is to build interest in the game, I would mix in a voice over describing some of the key features of the game, as well as let potential customers know this is a very early peak at a game that will be far more substanative than the trailer. I think the sound effects are great, and those engine sounds should be quite realistic when the RPM pitch changes are put in. The pit crews voice is right on as well I think. As I've said before, I can't wait until this game is released, I think it is going to be a blast, and I know Thomas will do a great job on it. See you on the track, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer
Sounds like a great idea to me Claudio, There is no reason why one of the players can't organize something like this themselves, everything is there for it to be done, we have an open online playing system, and a race scheduling system, so if someone organizes it and is willing to keep track of points and races, no problem. Let me know if you decide to do this, I can create an emailing list for it if you get enough people interested. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Claudio Zeni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer > Hello Che and oters! > I have a kool new idea for rail racer. > What do you tink about a season-mode, che? > In this mode the player musst race 26 races before he can win the > season! > What do you tink? > Regards, Claudio. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Some Rail Racer tips please.
I think the best thing to do is to make a simple track with just a couple curves in it so you can practice taking curves, and pressing the D key in the middle to see how close you are to the perfect lean. It is also very important to move smoothly with your hand from 0 degrees to max lean and back again, as the curve itself is a linear progression from zero to max and back to zero. In fact, it helps to start moving a bit before the curve, so you are already leaning when the curve starts, and you won't have to accelerate your hand. One mistake some people make is to over compensate when they scratch by leaning to far back, remember that wall you just hit leans with the curve, so if you scrape in the first half of the curve, it only takes a very slight adjustment to correct yourself. Finally, it is very important to have a light touch with the mouse, you should not be moving your arm much if at all, it is all in the wrist and fingers, and get used to resetting your mouse position by picking it up with your fingers and placing it back in the center position. Keep practicing, I promise the mouse is not only a better control device , it is in my opinion more fun once you get used to it. Regarding the accidental slow downs, this is easy to do in a curve, because it is easy to pull the mouse back as you move it left or right, I tend to push it forward a bit in the curves, so I don't accidentally slow down. HTH. Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Some Rail Racer tips please. > Hi everyone, > Recently I have switched over to using the mouse with Rail Racer. > However, despite being told over and over again the mouse control is the > best way to drive the racer I feel like I can't maintain control of the > racer very well. I either lean to far to the left or right, sometimes > when using the mouse I'll bump the mouse the wrong way and I will go > from 200 MPH to 50 MPH in a second which drives me insane, and I will > get frustrated and press the left mous button instead of the middle one > resulting in a head on crash into the jump. > I have read and listened to Che's tips on using the mouse and try to > follow them but I am clumsy and out of control with it. I can't seam to > make the mouse do what I want, and my performence is terrible to what I > can do with the keyboard. Last night I got so frustrated I nearly > destroyed my mouse by driving it into my mouse pad like a missile. Any > help please. > > Sincerely, > Frustrated Racer > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer
There is already a rail racer mailing list. Send an email with the subject line subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you can bring the topic up there. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Claudio Zeni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer > ps: > Yes che. > Create a mailinglist and whe can discuss this with oter peoples. > Regards, Claudio. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer
Ah, well in that case, you will have to wait on raceway, as rail racer is basically finished, and I am on to other projects. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Claudio Zeni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an new feature in rail racer > Hello Che! > I speaking not about a online season play, no. > I speak about an ofline season play. > Also the player play the 26 races against Computer-Opponent like > Raceway. > Regards, Claudio. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: Some Rail Racer tips please.
You can pay with a credit card via the pay pal link.
I don't do money orders , too much hassle.
Later,
Che
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From: "Timberwolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] {Spam?} Re: Some Rail Racer tips please.
> Hi,
>
> I use a laptop with the touch-style mouse. This probably wouldn't be
> possible- so I'm considering buying a wireless keyboard and mouse (I need
> the keyboard anyway, for another game I play- my laptop has a very stupid
> numpad). I'm so used to typing on this thing, through, it might take a
> while
> to get used to those (for me at least) clunky huge keys! lol.
>
> Anyway, I'm considering ordering rail racer, but I can't use paypal. Is
> there a way I could send a money order in or some such- like most games?
>
> ty
>
>
> - Tyler
> visit my website!
> http://www.valiant.789mb.com
>
> note: Make sure you have your speakers turned on to get a cool-sounding
> intro!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Some Rail Racer tips please.
>
>
>> I think the best thing to do is to make a simple track with just a
>> couple
>> curves in it so you can practice taking curves, and pressing the D key in
>> the middle to see how close you are to the perfect lean.
>> It is also very important to move smoothly with your hand from 0 degrees
>> to max lean and back again, as the curve itself is a linear progression
>> from
>> zero to max and back to zero. In fact, it helps to start moving a bit
>> before the curve, so you are already leaning when the curve starts, and
>> you
>> won't have to accelerate your hand. One mistake some people make is to
>> over
>> compensate when they scratch by leaning to far back, remember that wall
>> you
>> just hit leans with the curve, so if you scrape in the first half of the
>> curve, it only takes a very slight adjustment to correct yourself.
>> Finally, it is very important to have a light touch with the mouse, you
>> should not be moving your arm much if at all, it is all in the wrist and
>> fingers, and get used to resetting your mouse position by picking it up
>> with
>> your fingers and placing it back in the center position.
>> Keep practicing, I promise the mouse is not only a better control device
>> ,
>> it is in my opinion more fun once you get used to it.
>> Regarding the accidental slow downs, this is easy to do in a curve,
>> because it is easy to pull the mouse back as you move it left or right, I
>> tend to push it forward a bit in the curves, so I don't accidentally slow
>> down.
>> HTH.
>> Che
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:58 AM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Some Rail Racer tips please.
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Recently I have switched over to using the mouse with Rail Racer.
>>> However, despite being told over and over again the mouse control is the
>>> best way to drive the racer I feel like I can't maintain control of the
>>> racer very well. I either lean to far to the left or right, sometimes
>>> when using the mouse I'll bump the mouse the wrong way and I will go
>>> from 200 MPH to 50 MPH in a second which drives me insane, and I will
>>> get frustrated and press the left mous button instead of the middle one
>>> resulting in a head on crash into the jump.
>>> I have read and listened to Che's tips on using the mouse and try to
>>> follow them but I am clumsy and out of control with it. I can't seam to
>>> make the mouse do what I want, and my performence is terrible to what I
>>> can do with the keyboard. Last night I got so frustrated I nearly
>>> destroyed my mouse by driving it into my mouse pad like a missile. Any
>>> help please.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Frustrated Racer
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game!
Hi George, This looks way cool, I just signed up, so hopefully I am in time for the new season. Anybody out there interested in teaming up in the game? Later, Che - Original Message - From: "jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! > Hi friends! I don't know if some of you already know this game! I play it > already some mounths ago and it's really great! > In this game, you controol an F1 team from your virtual office and then > you > must choose your suppliers, driver, designer and commercial director and > set > up the car and race strategies! > It's completely accessible and really addictive! > You follow the practice, warmup and qualifications and obviously watch the > race live! > Check it out because we are in the start of a 29th season! > You can play it at: > www.f1time.com > Have fun, > Jorge > - Original Message - > From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth suggestion Fw: chatting with > creators -Wantinghelp > > >> well it'd be nice to actually have something to do with gold, right >> now >> it's fairly useless. >> >> I wouldn't be as much a fan of paying for these in Ag tocans though, >> sinse >> there is only a finite amount of tocans in the game, and other than by >> donating money, there's no way to get more. this would mean a player who >> used a lot of leaves and elixias would have to donate to buy more, which >> imho would be incredibly unfair. >> >> Beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:08 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth suggestion Fw: chatting with creators - >> Wantinghelp >> >> >>> Hi Ron and list, >>> I don't know how others feel about this suggestion, but I think it may >>> be >>> manageable and maybe even beneficial to game play. >>> What about selling kepbekk leaves or kepbekk elixirs for either gold >>> and/or adventure tokens? >>> I know some may say this could take away from the challenge, but with >>> some of the latest adventures, I don't really think so. Besides, maybe >>> Mathew could put a limit on the amount of kepbekk leaves and/or elixirs >>> you can buy. >>> So what do you guys think? >>> And most importantly, what does Mathew think? smile >>> AC >>> >>> - Forwarded message -- >>> From: "Ron Schamerhorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "gamers@audyssey.org" >>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:14:46 -0500 >>> Subject: [Audyssey] chatting with creators - Wanting help >>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> HI all >>> >>> As many of you have read in previous issues of the magazine I have >>> introduced the Chatting with Creators segment. >>> Okay well this time I'm planning to talk with Mathew who has created >>> the >>> game some of us play Sryth. >>> What I'm wanting is to have folks email me any questions or comments >>> about >>> the game that I can then put into those I have and send it off to him to >>> appear in the next issue! The questions can be of a basic nature or as >>> spacific as you'd like. He's already agreed to help out here so this is >>> your chance to ask whatever has been on your mind. I'd like to make it >>> good >>> as I've always found Matt to be quick to respond and help out wherever >>> he >>> >>> can in the game. Let's give it our community best! >>> >>> Ron >>> Audyssey Editor >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>>
Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game!
Hi george, I am having difficulty finding instructions for the game, any tips where I can find docs on it? Thanks, Che - Original Message - From: "jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! > Hi Che, please keep iin mind that you only can team mate with a person > from > your group, > I hope you enjoy the game! > Jorge > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! > > >> Hi George, >> This looks way cool, I just signed up, so hopefully I am in time for the >> new season. >> Anybody out there interested in teaming up in the game? >> Later, >> Che >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! >> >> >>> Hi friends! I don't know if some of you already know this game! I play >>> it >>> already some mounths ago and it's really great! >>> In this game, you controol an F1 team from your virtual office and then >>> you >>> must choose your suppliers, driver, designer and commercial director and >>> set >>> up the car and race strategies! >>> It's completely accessible and really addictive! >>> You follow the practice, warmup and qualifications and obviously watch >>> the >>> race live! >>> Check it out because we are in the start of a 29th season! >>> You can play it at: >>> www.f1time.com >>> Have fun, >>> Jorge >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:18 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth suggestion Fw: chatting with >>> creators -Wantinghelp >>> >>> >>>> well it'd be nice to actually have something to do with gold, >>>> right >>>> now >>>> it's fairly useless. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't be as much a fan of paying for these in Ag tocans though, >>>> sinse >>>> there is only a finite amount of tocans in the game, and other than by >>>> donating money, there's no way to get more. this would mean a player >>>> who >>>> used a lot of leaves and elixias would have to donate to buy more, >>>> which >>>> imho would be incredibly unfair. >>>> >>>> Beware the Grue! >>>> >>>> Dark. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:08 PM >>>> Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth suggestion Fw: chatting with creators - >>>> Wantinghelp >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Ron and list, >>>>> I don't know how others feel about this suggestion, but I think it may >>>>> be >>>>> manageable and maybe even beneficial to game play. >>>>> What about selling kepbekk leaves or kepbekk elixirs for either gold >>>>> and/or adventure tokens? >>>>> I know some may say this could take away from the challenge, but with >>>>> some of the latest adventures, I don't really think so. Besides, maybe >>>>> Mathew could put a limit on the amount of kepbekk leaves and/or >>>>> elixirs >>>>> you can buy. >>>>> So what do you guys think? >>>>> And most importantly, what does Mathew think? smile >>>>> AC >>>>> >>>>> - Forwarded message -- >>>>> From: "Ron Schamerhorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "gamers@audyssey.org" >>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:14:46 -0500 >>>>> Subject: [Audyssey] chatting with creators - Wanting help >>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> HI all >>>>> >>>>> As many of you have read in previous issues of the magazine I have >>>>> introduced the Chatting with Creators segment. >>&
Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game!
Hi all, I cannot seem to find the drop down box for the factory options in the game. I was told one needs to hover the mouse cursor over factory to bring up the drop down list, but I get no such drop down when hovering over that link. I am not used to doing this, is there a setting in jaws I might need to change? I did some searching, and found you can hit control enter to bring up mouse over options like this, but this technique is not working either. Any help much appreciated, as need to test badly. Rock. Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] F1Time - Building car parts
Hi Orin, you need to go to testing in the factory drop down list. For a list of links to all the drop down pages, look for my forum post in the newbie section of the forums, a kind member of the game listed direct links for all of them. Make sure you read the rules and guide carefully about testing so you don't waste your laps. Regarding the Popomundo deal, the problem was not that you didn't pay me back the money you owed, it was that you never bothered to thank me for loaning you the money in the first place, asked for and received all kinds of help from me, again without showing any gratitude, then instead of letting me know what was going on, and that you wouldn't be able to pay me back, you didn't let me know anything at all, much less apologize for being unable to fulfill your obligation. All very rude and disrespectful. This is not the way to make friends in the online gaming world dude, or in the real world for that matter. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Orin listener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] F1Time - Building car parts > Hi all, > > Just wondering, one, to get a working vehicle and quallify, what are > the must-build parts? Tires I'd imagine, but I'm just trying to piece > this all together here. I've hired a few staff members because I > needed more due to the stock crew not being enough, but I'm trying to > figure out more to do, like build parts because my driver doesn't have > a car yet. > > Is there anything in the finantial department I need to worry about > now? What I'm trying to do is get into my first race and, if possible, > winning it, but as long as I'm in the race racing, at least for my > first one, (Yes, I do hope I win), but if I don't than Oh well, no big > deal. > > I do hope I win at least next weeks. I'll be logging in once a day to > this thing and try not to make the same mistakes as I had previously > with Popomundo - Forgetting about it due to problems in my family, and > not earning enough money to pay a certain character InGame back. > > > Anyway I read the newbie guide and some things confuse me. When you > practice, warmup, are those all done on Sunday? Because it seems like > it's practice, Warmup, Quallification to see what order you're in and > the race than starts. The only thingI doubt though is this live race > viewer, scrolling every few seconds to show progress with the race. > > So I think right now the only thing I need to do is build a car and > give race orders but I'm confused with this whole factory thing... > > Thanks for any help anyone can give. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game!
If you root jaws to cursor on one of these links, then go back to PC cursor, you can arrow down and see the links that hovering opened. I just made a series of favorites myself so I can quickly snap between pages. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Willem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! > It seems as if you have to manually edit the addressbar to get to some > sections. > The game isn't as accessible as I thought. > - Original Message - > From: "ian and riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! > > >> try shift and down arrow >> - Original Message - >> From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] F1time, an online F1 management game! >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> I cannot seem to find the drop down box for the factory options in the >>> game. >>> I was told one needs to hover the mouse cursor over factory to bring up >>> the drop down list, but I get no such drop down when hovering over that >>> link. >>> I am not used to doing this, is there a setting in jaws I might need to >>> change? I did some searching, and found you can hit control enter to >>> bring >>> up mouse over options like this, but this technique is not working >>> either. >>> Any help much appreciated, as need to test badly. >>> Rock. >>> Che >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley
There is really little need to uninstall it, given todays hard drive sizes, the 2 megs it takes up won't even be noticed, and it certainly doesn't take up any system resources otherwise. Besides, you never know when you might need a little stress relief granted by jumping big yellow busses. grin. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Kim Etheridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley > That's ok. I'm usually not into racing games, but I thought I'd try this > one > out. How do I find the batch file that uninstalls it? I pray I don't have > to > uninstall the entire Kitchens Inc folder. If I do, I'll be angry. > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "nicol" > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley > > >> Hi Nicol, >> >> You can not hold down the left control key for ever. Your engine gets up >> to it's maximum speed and if you hold it there for too long the engine >> will blow up. The engine does sound different at and near it's maximum >> RPM slash speed. You need to either let off the throttle slash left >> control key or shift into the next gear by pressing the up arrow key. >> >> HTH >> >> BFN >> >> Jim >> >> "But officer, I was only trying to gain enough speed so I could coast to >> the nearest gas station." >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.kitchensinc.net >> (440) 286-6920 >> Chardon Ohio USA >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley
I made it over the first two busses, but it is surely not easy. If I am not mistaken, you can guide your bike through the curves by listening to the direction of the crowd, though it seems overly subtle. Is there a key to get your speed in the game? This would help a lot especially approaching the ramp, but perhaps that is a great part of the challenge, guessing and aiming at your speed. Overall though, I dig it myself, I definatly have to do some more practicing though. Thanks Jim, keep up the good work. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley > You have to shift up a lot to keep your engine from exploding. Its hard. > Especially after you get past the second turn. That's where I have > trouble, > I hit that second turn and I'm going so fast that I grind into the rail no > matter how hard I turn and my bike blows up. Its definitely challenging. > I'll have to play around with it a little more, so far though I haven't > made > it past 1 single bus. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Homer on a Harley > > >> Hi Jim, >> Here is my first impressions of the game. Well, I like both the theme >> and sounds for the game so far, but I can't even make the first turn let >> alone jump one bus. >> I get as far as Marge starting to speak and either my engine explodes, >> I flip my bike, or I hit the guard rail. Basically, I suck at the game. >> I'm having major difficulty playing it which is unusual for me. >> >> >> Jim Kitchen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have put a new file up on my web site. >>> file name WinHH.exe file size 2.2 meg >>> >>> You are Homer, the Harley riding motorcycle dare devil. You have >>> brought >>> three of your specially modified Harley Davidson motorcycles to a small >>> oval race track to try to set the record for the number of school buses >>> you can jump. >>> >>> Note* you will need to disable your screen reader to play this game. >>> >>> You can find the file on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games >>> page. >>> >>> BFN >>> Jim >>> >>> Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://www.kitchensinc.net >>> (440) 286-6920 >>> Chardon Ohio USA >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Railracer
Hi, Yes, once you place an order, you will receive a link to the latest full version of the game along with a registration key to unlock it. later, Che - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Railracer > Hello. I was wondering after we order the game and we get a cereal key, > do we download a new version of the game? > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] firewall problem
Hi, The server was down yesterday as I was doing some maintenance stuff and apparently it did not come back up properly. It is up now however, and all should be well. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Monty suggestion
Thomas, you need to have a trigger set for when the game window loses focus, at that point you can release control of the keyboard, and just the opposite when focus is re gained. this is the way I do it with rail racer and it works quite well. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monty suggestion > Hi Robin, > > Quote > Now the problem is that the game continues after I press any > key which is really annoying, because, for example, when I type > something and hit the letter "w" uncle Sam tells me the number of swords > I have. > End quote > > Well, two thoughts here. One the game was never designed to be run side > by side with a screen reader so conflicts such as you describe can and > will occur. Second, there is a bug related to what you are talking about > where DirectX Input doesn't release control of the keyboard when the > game doesn't have focus. Until I figure out how to solve this issue you > are always going to have some conflicts where the screen reader and the > game are both trying to have control of the keyboard at once. As a > result when you load your screen reader and begin working in another > application while running the game you are also triggering commands in > the game as well as whatever keyboard actions you are passing to the > application you are using. > > Quote > Tom, could you maybe change that so that the game will only > continue after hitting u again? > End quote > > I certainly could do that, but that really doesn't solve the underlying > problem you want fixed. No matter what application you are using DirectX > Input will still intercept the u from your keyboard and unpause the > game. however, the problem can be minamized by placing the pause key on > a non-standard key like a function key, sscroll lock key, or something > less likely to be used while the screen reader is running. > While I am thinking about this the way this could work is that if we put > the pause key on a non-standard key it would minamize the chanses of > unpausing the game while using the screen reader. To minimize further > conflicts while the game is paused I could theoretically have the game > stop polling for input on all keys except the unpause key. > Anyway, I'll see what I can do. I doubt I can come up with a 100% > solution to the problem, but may be able to seriously minimize it's > impact while screen readers and other applications are running and being > played. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] a comment from a gamer - Re: Monty suggestion
Yah Charles, that is the way it should always be I think, it is too bad more of the accessible developers aren't on this list though. One think I should add to my previous suggestion about the game losing focus, you will probably want to create buffers for all your dynamic variables, so when the player leaves the game for whatever reason, the game is basically frozen in time, then those buffered variables are re loaded when you unpause the game, this leads to less headaches when something like messenger takes over in the middle of a game, and if you are in mid jump over a snake or whatever, when you unpause, your character will be in the exact same spot and ready to go. I think this kind of system would be appropriate for most any game out there, and I'm sure the same kind of idea has been implemented in many accessible games already, I just had to reinvent the technique myself as I had no idea what i was doing when i started rail racer. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] a comment from a gamer - Re: Monty suggestion > Now, this is cool! Game producers suggesting ways to improve someone > else's > game, on a list, for everyone to read. It won't hurt your sales. Fact > is, > in a weird way, it might boost them by showing your dedication to the > community, although I'll bet this wasn't your motive. Thanks. > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts. > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monty suggestion > > >> Thomas, you need to have a trigger set for when the game window loses >> focus, at that point you can release control of the keyboard, and just >> the >> opposite when focus is re gained. this is the way I do it with rail racer >> and it works quite well. >> Later, >> Che >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monty suggestion >> >> >>> Hi Robin, >>> >>> Quote >>> Now the problem is that the game continues after I press any >>> key which is really annoying, because, for example, when I type >>> something and hit the letter "w" uncle Sam tells me the number of swords >>> I have. >>> End quote >>> >>> Well, two thoughts here. One the game was never designed to be run side >>> by side with a screen reader so conflicts such as you describe can and >>> will occur. Second, there is a bug related to what you are talking about >>> where DirectX Input doesn't release control of the keyboard when the >>> game doesn't have focus. Until I figure out how to solve this issue you >>> are always going to have some conflicts where the screen reader and the >>> game are both trying to have control of the keyboard at once. As a >>> result when you load your screen reader and begin working in another >>> application while running the game you are also triggering commands in >>> the game as well as whatever keyboard actions you are passing to the >>> application you are using. >>> >>> Quote >>> Tom, could you maybe change that so that the game will only >>> continue after hitting u again? >>> End quote >>> >>> I certainly could do that, but that really doesn't solve the underlying >>> problem you want fixed. No matter what application you are using DirectX >>> Input will still intercept the u from your keyboard and unpause the >>> game. however, the problem can be minamized by placing the pause key on >>> a non-standard key like a function key, sscroll lock key, or something >>> less likely to be used while the screen reader is running. >>> While I am thinking about this the way this could work is that if we put >>> the pause key on a non-standard key it would minamize the chanses of >>> unpausing the game while using the screen reader. To minimize further >>> conflicts while the game is paused I could theoretically have the game >>> stop polling for input on all keys except the unpause key. >>> Anyway, I'll see what I can do. I doubt I can come up with a 100% >>> solution to the problem, but may be able to seriously minimize it's >>> impact while screen readers a
[Audyssey] Sales figures was: Loquendo voices
With a good bit of holiday sales, Rail Racer is somewhere around the 220 unit mark right now, not spectacular, but not terrible either. The biggest marketing push for RR has come from word of mouth, as people realize there is a great deal of replay value in RR with the online tournaments and ability to create your own tracks to share with friends. Also, we have some excellent volunteers arranging tournaments, handling new tracks and keeping the RR community flowing. I think in the future it is going to be very important to have that online social aspect of gaming to have a successful long term shelf life, as most games just don't have a lot of replay value for the most part. I don't think anyone is ever going to make a living selling accesible games, there just aren't enough blind gamers out there, but for a hobby that brings in a little extra cash, it isn't bad. Happy and safe holidays, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Loquendo voices was Quick question > Hi Kuvvosh, > If I exclude the pre-ordered customers only 25 have purchased > Montezuma's Return 1.0 directly from USA Games. Though it is still early > and it is hard to say how many new customers I will get in the future. > As for Rail Racer I don't know Che's current status, but I do recall him > saying on list that only about 150 customers had purchased the game at > the time he wrote that on list. He hoped to sell at least 200 units, and > at the time he was still short of that mark. > It is definitly a bit depressing seeing how much work goes into one of > these audio games, and the sales numbers just aren't there for it to be > very successful as a secondary income. > > Kuvvosh wrote: >> Woa, are you saying that 25 people only ordered the USA game, and 150 >> people >> ofr RR? Geeze I thought there was a lot more people out there that >> played >> games. How sad. >> >> Kuvvosh >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Keys for my laptop
I use hardware based keys for the simple reason it is much harder for pirates to crack your software and distribute free copies of your games. I offer replacement keys in a timely manner for those that have hardware failures, but this has only occured a handful of times out of 200 plus copies sold. I know that there are lots of pirated versions of developers hard work floating out there, and I wanted the most secure path available, because if I findRail Racer being distributed as a crack, I am going to unleash one very dedicated lawyer and pay whatever it takes to find the culprits. Despite the best efforts of some talented jerks, as far as I know, RR has not been cracked, and that is a good thing for all of us. If I were a new developer about to release my first commercial game, I would seriously consider going with a hardware based serial key system, there will be a few inconveniences, but for me, having a secure product is well worth it. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop
Valid arguments, but I recently saw a list of pirated games a member of our list here had, and it was basically all the major accessible game titles. For me, protecting my intellectual property is worth the slight inconvenience to myself as a developer, and it only takes a few seconds to send out another key to a customer. Additionally, RR spits out a config file that allows players to move their settings from one key to another, a system that should work for any accessible game, greatly minimizing the aggrivation from the customers standpoint. For you folks on list that use and distribute pirated games, please take a second to consider the damage you are doing to the entire community, as well as the encentive you take away from developers to make new and exciting games for all of us. Your actions are absolutely selfish and ignorant, and you have no excuse other than you are a pinhead. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Say What!
Hi, I too would like a bit more description of this game please. Where do the balls come into play, and what makes it accessible? Does it speak to you as you place the balls or what? Thanks, Che - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ken the Crazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Say What! > Hi Ken > > Okay I kind of get the idea but what do the balls have to do with it? > Sorry if this is dense. Had the in-laws over and some wine. *grin* > > Ron > > - Original Message - > From: "Ken the Crazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:05 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Say What! > > > I got the Say What game for Christmas--early! > It's a great game, and totally accessible. > It has three skill levels (easy, medium, and hard,) and four games--timed > mode, guess mode, timed extreme mode and guess extreme mode. When you > start, you can select up to four players (I think it's four,) and the > skill > level and game. Then, you press start--a big round button very easy to > differentiate from the rest. > There are hundreds of phrases, and depending on how well you do the > difficulty increases. On the easy skill level it gives you more time in > the > next round if you missed one. Usually, there are five rounds unless > there's > a tie between two players. In timed mode, the time starts at 30 and goes > down 5 seconds per round. In guess mode, you get 5 guesses and they > decrease by 1 per round. That's not a whole lot of time and guesses to > unscramble that phrase. > Yeah, I know, you're just dying to ask me, "How do you play it!" > There are five balls--well, half balls anyway. You have to keep the game > put up in a safe place so you don't lose any of them. Anyway, when you > start a scrambled phrase is spoken--and if it comes from a song it is > often > sung. Then, you rearrange the balls until you get them in the right > order. > I don't mean that you simply press ball-shaped buttons, you physically > take > balls off and put them in new places until you've got it right. It takes > time, but if you're stuck there's a hint button you can press a > s well. The hints tell you where the phrase came from--music, pop > culture, > movies and so on. > This game is a great game to play alone, but an even better party game > provided you can keep all the balls together and on the game. The only > thing I would change is that the quicker you solve the puzzle, the more > points you would get. In the game, you always get one point per > unscrambled > phrase. My seven-year-old daughter hates hand-held electronic games. I > guess they bore her, but she asked my wife to get this for her for > Christmas > before I ever told her about it, so it's sure to be something you can > share with the whole family. > You can get it at just about anywhere in the states, and there's a sight > called firebox.com that sells it too--just google it. > You can put this in the mag if you want too--I know there are lots of > readers who aren't on the mailing list, and I want everybody to know about > all the games that are accessible. > Enjoy the game! > Ken Downey > President > DreamTechInteractive! > > And, > Coming soon, > Blind Comfort! > The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop
Well, if the inconvenience to customers was a real problem I would have to rethink my strategy, but as I stated before, it has only been a small issue a handful of times, and a lot of thought went into making it as easy as possible for the customer if a hardware problem exists. I think as long as the customer feels they are getting value for their money, that is the most important thing, and at Blind Adrenaline as with most other accessible game companies, that is what we strive to do. Another note on this, because I control the only server that allows online racing, even if someone were to crack Rail Racer, they would not be able to race online, which is at least half the fun of the game. This is about as rock solid a piracy protection scheme as you can come up with. I will continue to use this model in the future as it has served me well so far, but I completely understand others reservations regarding a hardware based system. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop > Wow, Tom, they talk about this stuff on mailing lists? > > I agree with Che that he would put a lawyer to work, but piracy can't > really be stopped. It's > been proven dozens and dozens of times. > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:24:43 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote: > > >>Hi Che, >>I think your position is equally valid. I have seen similar lists of >>cracks for popular accessible games including discovered a crack for all >> >>the GMA Games and the PCS Games. All that piracy is going to do is make >> >>developers less interested in developing games, or strengthen security >>to a point it begins losing sales from honest customers. As a customer I >> >>hate hardware based keys, but as a developer I want my product safe. So >>it is a really really tough decision for me. >>As a developer it might not take us long to generate a new key for each >>user, but I think the person who suffers most is the honest customer. If >> >>I buy a new computer and have to order a new product key I am forced to >>wait for the new key based on the developers schedule. If the developer >>happens to be away on vacation, sick, whatever I will simply have to >>wait until I get my key. It might sound like impatients, but it is >>simply an added inconvenience that is often frustration for the honest >>user. >>In the end I think any developer faced with which product key system to >>use needs to be based on the two factors. A. Does the developer care >>about serving the honest customer with the easiest and most convenient >>gaming experience. B. Is the developers determination to prevent hacking >> >>so great as to risk customer convenience for security. I don't think >>either position is absolutely right or wrong, but I do know there needs >>to be some sort of balance between convenience and security. >> >>Che wrote: >>>Valid arguments, but I recently saw a list of pirated games a member of >>>our list here had, and it was basically all the major accessible game >>>titles. For me, protecting my intellectual property is worth the slight >>> >>>inconvenience to myself as a developer, and it only takes a few seconds >>>to >>>send out another key to a customer. Additionally, RR spits out a config >>> >>>file that allows players to move their settings from one key to another, >>>a >>>system that should work for any accessible game, greatly minimizing the >>>aggrivation from the customers standpoint. >>>For you folks on list that use and distribute pirated games, please take >>>a >>>second to consider the damage you are doing to the entire community, as >>>well >>>as the encentive you take away from developers to make new and exciting >>>games for all of us. Your actions are absolutely selfish and ignorant, >>>and >>>you have no excuse other than you are a pinhead. >>>Later, >>>Che >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>
Re: [Audyssey] Railracer
Hi, Yes, I can send the game info and key to any email address requested once payment is received, no sweat. Just have the person ordering sen dme an email and let me know what address they want it sent to. Happy holidays, Che - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Spoonbill Software - Games requests" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Railracer > Hello. My name is Ron. I'm wondering if I have my sister or someone > order the game for me, can they have the cereal number and the download > link sent to my email address? Thanks. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] guitar hero or guitar zero
Hi, I have guitar hero for the Nintendo Wii, and it is pretty cool overall. Once you memorize the menus, you can navigate to the different areas you need, and you can select the song you want easily, as it plays the first part of each song as you navigate through the selections. You will probably need to have a sighted person help you memorize the sequences for each song though, at least that is what I had to do. Once you get in the rhythm of the song, especially the easy ones, it isn't that hard. Also, you can go into practice mode where you can slow the song down and practice it, which is quite helpful. For those of you wondering what the heck this game is, it comes with a 3/4 scale guitar that connects to your game console. The guitar has 5 buttons on the neck, and a bar that you strum on the body. Notes stream along the screen, color coded to the buttons on the neck of the guitar, and you have to press the correct button and strum at the exact right time for the note to register. Play enough notes in sequence correctly and you get bonus points, get too many wrong and the audience will boo you off the stage. The game comes with lots of songs from the seventies and eighties that will be familiar to any classic rock fan, along with some hits from the nineties. The game producers went back and found the original recordings and seperated the guitar tracks from the rest of the recordings, so if you play correctly everything sounds groovy, but mess up a note or two and it is quite noticeable. There is a similar game out there called Rock Band, where in addition to a guitar, you play drums, bass and have a singer on a wired microphone. My cousin has played this one and says it is a blast. I would give guitar hero a 7 out of 10 for accessibility, as you really can't wing it as the sighted can because you have to memorize the notes. All in all though, it is a lot of fun, and your friends and family will absolutely love it. Happy strumming, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Moderator appreciation
Given the vitrol that Lisa Hayes attacked Thomas with on here, I'd just like to state that her attitude towards our excellent mods is in the vast minority. Lisa rarely posts to this list, and when she does, it is usually to complain about someone or attack them for one reason or another, and I for one think her jumping on Thomas for doing his job is absolutely uncalled for. Pulling out the "I am a woman, how dare you threaten me" was a goofy and warped tactic, the kind of thing resorted to when one realizes they are in the wrong, but have no intention of apologizing, making amends, or otherwise acting like a grown up and productive member of society. Thomas and Raul do a great job for us, answering every request and question, moderating this list with an even and lighthearted hand, and I for one think we are very lucky to have them doing this pretty much thankless task for us. Anyway, thanks Thomas and Raul, and don't let the pinheads get you down, they don't speak for the majority of us. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
I would do a survey before going through the trouble of cross developing any accessible game. I'm afraid given the limited amount of Linux and Mac users using accessible technology, it simply would not be worth the effort, especially if you end up cutting out features to make it work on all systems. Regarding the mac users, the windows environment running on there works just fine for accessible games from what I have heard, so I'm not sure how much impact a mac version would have at any rate. I agree with Karl that there are a lot of folks out there waiting on raceway, and I'm sure over 90 percent of them are ready to roll with windows. As a developer, I have no intentions of going cross platform, I am quite happy with the response I've gotten from windows users, but if I were doing raceway, I would make it as good as possible for windows, and leave the cross platform experiment for another game down the road after gathering more info about linux and mac users. I think it is a noble idea, but one that will probably be dissapointing in the final analysis. Whatever your decision Thomas, I wish you luck with it. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Multiplatform Games
Thomas wrote: It is true that most Mac users are running our games through Windows virtual machines, but as I stated in an earlier post that is nowhere near as good as playing the game that is natively supported by the os or run through something like the Java runtime. End quote Do you know this for a fact? I have a few users of Rail Racer running on Mac and as far as I know it works quite well. I was under the impression windows was running natively, not in an emulated mode, but I could be totally off base there. Given the low overhead of accessible games in general, I would think any accessible game would run just fine in a windows environment running on Macs, given todays processor speeds, but I haven't checked this for myself. I agree the envelope should be pushed with accessible games, and quite hard, but given the overwhelming majority of windows users out there at this point in time, for me the R and D time is better spent making a windows game as fun and immerssive as possible. But again, that is just me and my angle on things, if you decide to make raceway or any other game cross platform I will be very interested in the results, and I am sure other developers will as well.. I am not sure how complex the conversion would be for your Star Trek game, but given that you already have the code for it, that might make a good test case, eh? Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Kara rote: Hi che, for myself, in the last two months, I've seen at the very least, 10 to fifteen new VI Mac users, and that's only in my own sphere. Now, that translates to about $450 if a game is $30 a pop. end quote. Well, that is assuming every one of those mac users bought the game of course. Probably 1 or 2 of those would buy any given game given current rates of purchases. However, if the numbers of accessible gamers using macs is large enough, or gets to be large enough, it would certainly warrant further investigation into the possibilities of doing a mac version of some games. As for myself, it doesn't matter what the operating system is, I have used SGI Unix boxes and lots of macs as a visual effects artist and I loved them both, I use windows now because at the moment it offers more of the software I need to work with, but if Apple were to get the upper hand on that end, I'd switch in a heartbeat. Does anyone have numbers on generally how many blinks are currently using macs? Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Rail-Racer
Check the email you were sent with your serial number, it has all instructions for registering there. Let me know if that doesn't work for you. Later. - Original Message - From: "Ronald Hopkins II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail-Racer > Hello. This is Ron. I got the game. Now when I open up the program, do > I > just copy and paste the cereal number and then click continue? > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Kevin Weispfennig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Date: 1/5/2008 11:41:51 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Rail-Racer >> >> Hello in the round, >> The problem with Rail Racer has partly >> solved. >> Only when I start the program now, I get >> the following message: >> GameEngine.exe - Common Language Runtime >> Services Debugging >> Application has generated an exception >> that could not be handled. >> Process id = 0x584 (1412), thread id = >> 0xb08 (2824). >> Click OK to terminate the application. >> Click CANCEL to debug the application. >> OK abort >> I now click on OK, closes. >> But I click on cancel the following >> message: >> GameEngine.exe - No debugger found. >> Registered JIT debugger is not >> available. An attempt to launch a JIT >> debugger with the following command >> resulted >> In an error code of 0x2 (2). Please >> check computer settings. >> Cordbg.exe! A 0x118 >> Click on Retry to have the process wait >> while attaching a debugger manually. >> Click on Cancel to abort the JIT debug >> request. >> Repeat Cancel >> How could someone help me, and say what >> I have to do? >> Kevin >> >> -- >> handy: 01778337034 Skype: foerbye1996 >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 424263367 >> http://www.kevinweisi.de >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Mailinglist: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] railracer
I checked the links in the read me file, and they work fine on this end, not sure what the trouble is, maybe try shift clicking it to open it in a new window. Let me know if it doesn't work. Later, Che - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] railracer > Hello. Was wondering where I can get microsoft dot net frame work version > 1, I went on microsofts site and couldn't find it, also a link that was in > my email with my key didn't work either. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] guitar hero or guitar zero
Yeah, if you are referring to knowing how to play a song on a real guitar, it doesn't relate in guitar hero at all. you will definately need sighted assistance or a lot of patience to learn the patterns to the songs, and even with help, the solos for me at least are basically impossible. It can be played, but without sighted assistance, I for one don't have the time to put into it to make it worthwhile. I'd rather spend the time working on my real guitar skills, grin. It is a great game to have around for company and parties though. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Ken the Crazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] guitar hero or guitar zero > Tried for over an hour with a song I know and couldn't play at all. > Ken Downey > President > DreamTechInteractive! > > And, > Coming soon, > Blind Comfort! > The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. > > - Original Message - > From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] guitar hero or guitar zero > > >> Its hmm. Sort of playable, but it takes a lot of patience and you'd >> likely >> have to know the songs before hand. My brother has the game, and when I >> tried it very briefly, I didn't get very far even on the easiest song. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:28 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] guitar hero or guitar zero >> >> >>> was wondering if anyone's gotten in to guitar hero. is it even >>> possible >>> to play? >>> and of course to quell the fifty replys asking what guitar hero is. >>> it's >>> a game for home console systems that simulats the playing of rock songs >>> using a specially shaped guitar controller. I might be getting my hands >>> on a ps2, so I'm wondering if it's worth looking at. >>> >>> Liam >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: >> 1/2/2008 >> 11:29 AM >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] steering wheel with topspeed and rr
What is the brand of wheel you bought? If it is a logiTech, there are profiles you can bring in for Rail Racer that will configure it for you. If it is any other brand, you should still be able to program the buttons in RR's options. Check the Rail Racer email list, there are several people there using wheels. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: [Audyssey] steering wheel with topspeed and rr > Hi all, I've bought a steering wheel at Wal-Mart for ts2 and rr but can't > seem to get all the buttons to work. For example, I've got everything > working for ts2 but the horn. All of the other buttons don't work with the > game, so I can't select them. Any ideas as to how I can get this fixed? > Thanks so much. > > Lata, > > Cory > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Hi all, I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, thought you all would be interested. It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for accessible games as well, any thoughts? FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever Blind Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible hardware, software, and design. Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book player was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first commercially-available device to play the new digital book format provided by the National Library Service. Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best Software category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the package includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, Charles La Pierre, was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year. "We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users showed in this contest," commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 100 ballots were processed during the contest, which included both write-in nomination and voting rounds. Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline Simulations' Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's tightest race. The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top Tech Tidbits Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both resources include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was recognized as the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells hundreds of items from talking watches to playing cards. For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals, and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can find the lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include user forums, an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal. J.J. www.BlindBargains.com Deals, news, and resources for the blind and visually impaired --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Hi Phil, I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure where he got his info. I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure who nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell me who. That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't actually get released until 2007, right? Thanks for the congrats man. What do you think of the idea of the list having a yearly awards for various game categories? - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > Hi Che, > Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007! > Here is the results and the other nominees: > 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any > operating system. It must have been released in 2007. > > Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer > Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate, > L-Works Duck Hunt, > KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley > > I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game. > Phil > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > > >> Hi all, >> I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, >> thought you all would be interested. >> It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for >> accessible games as well, any thoughts? >> >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> >> WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS >> >> HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS >> >> Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds >> of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever >> Blind >> Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies >> and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible >> hardware, >> software, and design. >> >> Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the >> Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book >> player >> was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled >> Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first >> commercially-available >> device to play the new digital book format provided by the National >> Library Service. >> >> Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best >> Software >> category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the >> package >> includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of >> interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, >> Charles La Pierre, >> was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year. >> >> "We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users >> showed in this contest," commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over >> 100 >> ballots >> were processed during the contest, which included both write-in >> nomination >> and voting rounds. >> >> Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access >> product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline >> Simulations' >> Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's >> tightest >> race. >> >> The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and >> online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top >> Tech >> Tidbits >> Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's >> Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both >> resources >> include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant >> and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was >> recognized as >> the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells >> hundreds >> of items from talking watches to playing cards. >> >> For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit >> http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php >> >> BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featu
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Yup, I agree, was there something on the audio games forum about it? I'm not sure where they got their voters myself. The first I heard of it was today when JJ let me know I had won, which was rather odd. At any rate, it would be a rather simple thing to have our own vote on a website, with multiple categories such as best action game, best strategy, best music etc. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > Hi Che, > First, I'd like to congratulate you on your award for Rail Racer. I > really think you earned it this year. > However, I am really surprised that no one on this list either knew or > mentioned that this voting for best accessible game was going on. The > web site states that they polled hundreds of voters, and yet the largest > comunity of blind gamers wasn't told about the voting? What is up with > that? > As for your idea of the list having its own yearly voting for awards or > games etc I really like the idea. I'll talk to Kevin and Raul and see > what they think. > > > Che wrote: >> Hi all, >> I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, >> thought you all would be interested. >> It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for >> accessible games as well, any thoughts? >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
There are existing php scripts out there that will allow for voting, and will tabulate everything for you, additionally it will provide some level of protection from one person voting multiple times, which is something to consider as well. I have a set of these scripts for Blind Adrenaline and they work quite well, no need to program anything from scratch for this. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > Hi Shane, > Basically, after I wrote the voting form all I would need to do is > forward all the form results to one judge who would announce the winners > and tabulate them. Though, now that I think about it there is no reason > why the php scripts couldn't do the tabulating themselves, but that of > course adds added work for me. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Sure, they are already set up on my site, so we can just use them from there. They were a pain in the crack to get set up, so no need to go through all that again. I won't have any games up for voting this year I don't believe so there will be no conflict of interest. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > Hi Che, > Any chanse you would want to donate your php scripts for this project? > > Che wrote: >> There are existing php scripts out there that will allow for voting, >> and >> will tabulate everything for you, additionally it will provide some level >> of >> protection from one person voting multiple times, which is something to >> consider as well. >> I have a set of these scripts for Blind Adrenaline and they work quite >> well, no need to program anything from scratch for this. >> Later, >> Che >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] vip gameszone v3
Yes, those guys make good games, but a lot of people don't know about them because of the dumb mistakes they make, such as not getting someone with english as a first language to do their instructions for the english speaking market. I wrote them about this, letting them know what a turn off it is that you have to decode their documentation, but they don't seem to care from what I can tell. It is too bad, because they do make good stuff. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Darren Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] vip gameszone v3 > Nice of them to make an announcement on this list lol > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Dark > Sent: 26 January 2008 15:27 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] vip gameszone v3 > > > thanks claudio. though I am slightly disappointed, I was rather hoping > they > might have reduced the random elements in lords of the galaxy or added > extra > things to galaxy ranger as seemed to happen with version 1.1 of the > game. > > Oh well. > > beware the Grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "Claudio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] vip gameszone v3 > > >> Hello dark! >> Yes, the only thing who is new in version 3 is that you can play these >> games >> on vista. >> I have also tryed it and it works fine. >> Regards, Claudio. >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: >> 25/01/2008 19:44 >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your > subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: > 25/01/2008 19:44 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: > 25/01/2008 19:44 > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Thomas wrote: It may take a couple of weeks for me and Raul to get the web site ready for voting, and we might want to hold off until March to actually do the voting to coincide with the next release of the mag. What do you think? end quote Hi Thomas, I replied to you a day or two ago saying we could use the voting scripts on blind adrenaline for the voting, no need for you guys to go through the trouble of programming anything, plus the scripts are built to minimize multiple votes from the same person. If you replied to the offer, I missed it. to the rest of the members of the list, please let me know your thoughts on this. Later, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] voting on game of the year
As I mentioned in my previous post, the scripts aren't easily set up and are licensed to my server as well as they are a commercial product. As I stated before, they are ready to go, all I have to do is set up the voting, no need for you guys to worry with the programming or installation of scripts, we can just run the voting from the blindAdrenaline site and save everyone a lot of time and trouble. I've had various votes for things on the site and it all works fine. Let me know what ya think folks . So far not many people have shown much interest in voting anyway, so it may be a moot point. Or maybe people are just being shy... - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year > Hi Che, > > Quote > I replied to you a day or two ago saying we could use the voting scripts > on blind adrenaline for the voting, no need for you guys to go through the > trouble of programming anything, plus the scripts are built to minimize > multiple votes from the same person. > If you replied to the offer, I missed it. > End quote > > Yes, Raul and I are interested in your scripts. If you could zip them up > and send them to Raul or I we would appreciate it. I am running behind > on email, and have several replies I need to get out today including > Monte orders that came in this weekend. > Just send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and I will take care of them. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Hi Thomas, Just my opinion, but I think there are some things the membership of the list should discuss regarding how we are going to go about this before we start organizing behind the scenes. Refer to my previous message to Dark for my thoughts on nominating games. We could put a list on the web site of every game released last year from which people can nominate if we go that route. Also, perhaps there should be some discussion about various categories for games. Just my 2 cents worth. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year > Hi Che, > No problem. I have no problem with you running the voting off your > servers since you already have a system setup for this. Please, email > Raul and I via the gamers-owner address off list and we can discuss > getting things going via your server. > Cheers. > > Che wrote: >> As I mentioned in my previous post, the scripts aren't easily set up and >> are >> licensed to my server as well as they are a commercial product. >> As I stated before, they are ready to go, all I have to do is set up >> the >> voting, no need for you guys to worry with the programming or >> installation >> of scripts, we can just run the voting from the blindAdrenaline site and >> save everyone a lot of time and trouble. >> I've had various votes for things on the site and it all works fine. >> Let me know what ya think folks . So far not many people have shown >> much >> interest in voting anyway, so it may be a moot point. Or maybe people >> are >> just being shy... >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Hi Dark, Well, we can do any setup for the voting we want, which is why we need feedback from the members here as to what they want. I think categories should have nominated entrants myself, so we don't have to include every single game made last year. If people don't think enough of a game to nominate it for various categories, then there isn't much point in including it in the voting it seems to me. Perhaps a month would be enough time for nominations to be collected for various categories, then a couple weeks for voting, then the results could be posted on list, on the web page and in Rons mag. Any thoughts out there? - Original Message - From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year > Hi Che. > > Certainly I like the idea of voting, especially if we can include all > appropriate games, publicize things properly and get a result that > actually > is meaningful. > > As to whether the vote is run from your site using your scripts or > somewhere > else though, - to be honest whatever is easiest for Tom, raul, ron and > anyone else involved would be fine with me, sinse afterall it's them > who are organizing the mechanics of the thing. > > Your scripts would (judging from the voting I've seen for the various rr > tracks), certainly do the job I think, but the decision isn't really > up > to me, and I certainly don't have the technical know how for it > anyway. > > Appologies for lack of anything constructive here. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:00 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year > > >> As I mentioned in my previous post, the scripts aren't easily set up and >> are >> licensed to my server as well as they are a commercial product. >> As I stated before, they are ready to go, all I have to do is set up the >> voting, no need for you guys to worry with the programming or >> installation >> of scripts, we can just run the voting from the blindAdrenaline site and >> save everyone a lot of time and trouble. >> I've had various votes for things on the site and it all works fine. >> Let me know what ya think folks . So far not many people have shown much >> interest in voting anyway, so it may be a moot point. Or maybe people >> are >> just being shy... >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year >> >> >>> Hi Che, >>> >>> Quote >>> I replied to you a day or two ago saying we could use the voting scripts >>> on blind adrenaline for the voting, no need for you guys to go through >>> the >>> trouble of programming anything, plus the scripts are built to minimize >>> multiple votes from the same person. >>> If you replied to the offer, I missed it. >>> End quote >>> >>> Yes, Raul and I are interested in your scripts. If you could zip them up >>> and send them to Raul or I we would appreciate it. I am running behind >>> on email, and have several replies I need to get out today including >>> Monte orders that came in this weekend. >>> Just send them to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> and I will take care of them. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Well, perhaps two main categories would work best, so we don't get into fragmenting everything down into sub groups too much given the limited amount of games we have available. Perhaps folks could nominate games for two categories, commercial games and beta/free games together, or perhaps one category for all three. This way, games which cost money and therefore have a much smaller user base won't be up against free games and betas that have over a thousand players. Beyond that, I'm not sure we want the complication of sub categories such as sports and strategy games at least for this initial run, especially given the rather tepid response from members about the idea so far. I think we've had 3 or maybe 4 people respond to the thread, not exactly encouraging for huge voter turnout. Feedback? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year > Hi Che, > I completely agree with you on this. There are things that needs to be > discussed, and you can refer to my previous post on the issues I raised > that requires immediate attention before we can even talk about > nominations. Specifically the issue of defining some guide lines of what > qualifies and does not qualify for nomination. > > > Che wrote: >> Hi Thomas, >> Just my opinion, but I think there are some things the membership of >> the >> list should discuss regarding how we are going to go about this before we >> start organizing behind the scenes. >> Refer to my previous message to Dark for my thoughts on nominating >> games. >> We could put a list on the web site of every game released last year >> from >> which people can nominate if we go that route. >> Also, perhaps there should be some discussion about various categories >> for >> games. >> Just my 2 cents worth. >> Later, >> Che >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Yes, I should have made that distinction, thanks for pointing that out. I am sure you are right that many more people will vote than are responding to this thread, especially once we publisize it a bit. Right now I propose we list all games released in 2007 so folks can nominate them for voting in two categories to keep things simple: 1. Commercial games including paid betas 2. free games and betas So basically we would end up with a commercial and non commercial game of the year. There just seems to be too few game releases of different categories to have seperate votes for sports, strategy etc. Thoughts? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year > Hi Che, > Well, in the case of Betas there are some that are free and some that > are commercial. Montezuma's Return is definitely commercial, and to play > the full Beta someone needs an end user license. SoundRTS on the other > hand is totally free so there are no end user restrictions on playing > the whole game. > Though, you definitely have a good point that the free games and > commercial games should be split up. Free games tend to have more end > users than commercial games. > As for list feedback and comments that is typical for the list. It has > just been my personal experience people here like to do things > anonymously rather than speak up and be a more active member such as > giving feedback and chat. I've trolled through the membership lists > before and I have seen people in there who have never once asked one > question or sent one responce to the list. All I can guess is they are > the quiet type who just want to read, but not reply or be more active in > decision making. > > > Che wrote: >> Well, perhaps two main categories would work best, so we don't get into >> fragmenting everything down into sub groups too much given the limited >> amount of games we have available. >> Perhaps folks could nominate games for two categories, commercial >> games >> and beta/free games together, or perhaps one category for all three. >> This way, games which cost money and therefore have a much smaller user >> base won't be up against free games and betas that have over a thousand >> players. >> Beyond that, I'm not sure we want the complication of sub categories >> such >> as sports and strategy games at least for this initial run, especially >> given >> the rather tepid response from members about the idea so far. I think >> we've >> had 3 or maybe 4 people respond to the thread, not exactly encouraging >> for >> huge voter turnout. >> Feedback? >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Hi Dark, Yes, I see your point there. Perhaps a few more sub categories would be in order, maybe something like this: best overall commercial game best overall free game best strategy game best action game best sports game best mud if there are new ones best fps best fantasy game Would this cover it? Each sub category would be broken down into free and commercial as well. Thoughts? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial game, and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be voting for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this seems like a must have difference in categories. Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action. Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me. Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number, less than ten total categories would be ideal. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year > Hi Che. > > the problem I believe with doing it by genre as Tom said, is that so few > games of given genres have been produced, it'd be a forgone conclusion. > for > example, I think the only sports game produced this year has been the > update > to Jim's win baseball. > > I do agree catagories like action and stratogy might be useful, but > personally I'd rather use those than commercial vs free, sinse there have > been some free games like Sound Rts and topspeed 2 which are amazingly > extensive and deep, and one or two commercial games, which I personally > have --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] copyrights
If any developers have thoughts of using any copyrighted material and making a profit from it, I highly suggest you set up a LLC for your company. This stands for limited liability company, and basically protects the owner from lawsuits going after their personal property for any claims. Though I don't intend on pushing copyright stuff with blind adrenaline, this protects me if some bozo wants to claim my software screwed up his computer or something similarly frivilous. A good lawyer can do this for you for around $100, plus you will need a checking account for the company for tax purposes. Having seen some small businesses get burned, I highly recommend this setup for any small game developers. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights In which case, he'd! be! busted! Very, very bad idea. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi thomas, if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern countries. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Bryan, Oh, yeah. Lucas Arts is very protective of their Star Wars copyrights. Have you read the Star Wars terms of use lately? If not here is a small quote from the Star Wars terms of use snipped from their license agreement. Quote STAR WARS; STAR WARS : EPISODE I THE PHANTOM MENACE; STAR WARS: EPISODE II ATTACK OF THE CLONES; STAR WARS : EPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH; STAR WARS : EPISODE IV A NEW HOPE; STAR WARS: EPISODE V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK; STAR WARS : EPISODE VI RETURN OF THE JEDI (collectively referred to herein as the “ Star Wars Pictures”) and all other Lucasfilm productions, and all logos, characters, artwork, stories, information, names, software, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd.. Any use of any of the materials on this Site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited. The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of any of the Star Wars materials contained herein, for any other purpose except as expressly permitted pursuant to these Terms of Use, in any form, media or technology now known or hereafter developed, including the use of any of the aforementioned materials on any other Web site or networked computer environment, without a prior written consent from Lucas, is expressly prohibited. Except as expressly provided for under the Terms of Use, the creation of derivative works based on the materials contained herein is expressly prohibited. You may download one copy of the materials on any single computer for your personal, non-commercial home use only, provided you keep intact all copyright and other proprietary notices. Modification of the materials or use of the materials for any other purpose is a violation of Lucas’s copyright and other proprietary rights. End quote That is only part of the license agreement, and what I did show is very strongly worded. I read later on in the agreement that any ideas, emails, stories, pictures, etc you create with Star Wars instantly becomes the property of Lucas Film and Lucas Arts no questions asked. So even if I wrote such a game according to the terms of use section of the license agreement they have the right to take the game away, destroy it, or whatever they want to do with it. Kind of hard to fight a license agreement like that in court blind or not. While some developer can sit around saying they won't bother me because I am blind that is being a bit unrealistic. They might not, but then again they have every legal right to do so. Their license agreement sounds like they are pretty serious and they don't take very kindly to any copyright violation in any way shape or form. Even though they may be in the wrong for not offering an accessible SW game for us. Bryan wrote: > Especially since the folks at Lucas Arts in particular seem to be such > jerks. I've heard a lot of things about them, that they've been known to > attack fan sites for even inadvertently violating a copyright. > Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or up
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Yes, Rail Racer and Sarah don't really match up, but what two games really do match up?Sarah is in a world of its own, as is Monty, as is Homer on a Harley. We have to draw the line somewhere, and my previous message on the subject proposed a solution... In hopes of moving forward with this, please let me know what you think of those categories split up that way, such as Dark has done. Just saying this or that doesn't work isn't really helping much. Thanks, Che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories
I thought Phill posted just such a list here a week ago or so, which is where I developed my list of categories from. Feel free to post a category list you feel would work, but I think what I posted is a good starting point, just needs to be fleshed out a bit. I stand by my argument that having free games up against commercial games is an unfair competition, regardless of how RR did in a limited vote. If you gave 2000 decent but not great computers to 2000 people, and had them vote with 200 that had superior computers asking them which was best, it is obvious which would win by sheer number of users of the free system. This is not to say free games are inferior to commercial games at all, but I think you get my point. Phil, if you are out there, do you have a revised list of games for 2007 that is all inclusive? Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year > Hi Che, > First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is > compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games > themselves should be able to give us an idea of what catagories are > possible for this year. possabilities. > As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game > would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for > that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer, > a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the Homer game > and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were > simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game > could beat a free game in voting. > > Che wrote: >> Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is >> the >> user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial >> game, >> and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be >> voting >> for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, >> this >> seems like a must have difference in categories. >> Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into >> action. >> Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden >> the >> definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to >> me. >> Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of >> this >> voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable >> number, >> less than ten total categories would be ideal. >> Later, >> Che >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] copyright solution
Well, it seems to me there is an easy solution to this problem. Make your game with generic sounds for everything, don't give it a title that is a licensed name, then upon game release a zip file mysteriously appears on the net that has all the sounds from the Star Wars universe or whatever that neatly plugs into the game and replaces all sounds. The zip replacement would have no trackable source, and certainly would not have anything to do with the company that released this generic game, it just happened that a fan released a sound pack for it as far as they know and nothing they can do about it in any realistic way. This would cut into sales a bit, as you would not have a household name to market the game with, but word would get out quickly enough amongst the game community about what the deal was, and the sound pack would soon be shared amongst players. If you use this idea, you can send a cut of the profits to [EMAIL PROTECTED], grin. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights > Hi Josh, > Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That > won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that > extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials > and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas contempt > of court. > About the only way I know of to protect myself from that type of > situation would either clone the software without using trade marks or > design all of my copyrighted games under a open source license > agreement. If I go with an open source license agreement that puts all > of my hard work in the public domain with no financial backing for the > product. Yeah, you guys get a free game, but what money or financial > gain do I get out of it? > > > josh wrote: >> Hi thomas, >> >> if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy >> it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been >> sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern >> countries. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] copyright solution
Well, you know what they say about great minds... Grin. Good luck with it man. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyright solution > Hi Che, > Actually, this is exactly what I had planned to do for Tomb Raider. I > was planning on releasing/selling the game under a generic title called > Tomb Hunter, siting it is a Tomb Raider-like game, but then later > release an anonymous sound pack with music and Tomb Raider effects which > updates the game to Tomb Raider. I legally don't market it as Tomb > Raider, don't use Lara Croft directly, but will have the option > available to make it into Tomb Raider if desired. > > Che wrote: >> Well, it seems to me there is an easy solution to this problem. >> Make your game with generic sounds for everything, don't give it a >> title >> that is a licensed name, then upon game release a zip file mysteriously >> appears on the net that has all the sounds from the Star Wars universe >> whatever that neatly plugs into the game and replaces all sounds. >> The zip replacement would have no trackable source, and certainly would >> not have anything to do with the company that released this generic game, >> it >> just happened that a fan released a sound pack for it as far as they know >> and nothing they can do about it in any realistic way. >> This would cut into sales a bit, as you would not have a household >> name >> to market the game with, but word would get out quickly enough amongst >> the >> game community about what the deal was, and the sound pack would soon be >> shared amongst players. >> If you use this idea, you can send a cut of the profits to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], grin. >> Later, >> Che >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] running rail racer on vista.
make sure you have .net framework 1.1 installed, vista doesn't come with it out of the box. If you have administrator rights, it should work if the right version of the framework and direct x are on there, let me know if this helps. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] running rail racer on vista. > Hey all, > Has anyone successfully ran railracer on windows vista? I'm getting an > error > saying that signature is incorrect. when I press the ok button the game > stops responding. Any ideas? thanks! > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels
Hi all, I am currently working on the code to handle force feeback steering wheels. How many of you have steering wheels? If you have one, can you assign keyboard strokes to your buttons? I am trying to figure out the best way to program in gathering racer data such as speed and fuel from the wheel buttons. Thanks for any info, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels
Right, I could manually assign each button, but the last steering wheel I bought allowed you to assign keys to the buttons via the steering wheel software. If mose wheels are like this now, that would be a good thing, because I don't want to lock users into a particular configuration of their buttons that they might not like. Does your software allow you to assign keys to your buttons Raul? Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Chea. I have the Logitech FF Mono wheel. The way I understand it > though is you assign the functions of the game via the button numbers. > I'm not a programmer so not sure if this will help. > > - -- > To find a friend one must close one eye; to keep him -- two. > -- Norman Douglas > Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEKvEIyw8Or2IRAmcCAJ0YMvHaYUuVUUniubn3IxFngC2muQCfTN+c > FUzfQZMiU9MwPzaelZF9K3Y= > =MDt+ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels
Hi ya, When you say you can control which button enables which function, how is this done? What I am getting at is the possibility of assigning keystrokes to the wheel buttons, instead of hard coding the buttons, thus enabling the player to assign buttons to whichever key they wish. Thanks, Che - Original Message - From: "Sylvester Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels > Hello Che! I also have the Logitech FF Mono wheel. I Love it! When > playing Top Speed I can just assign which button controls each function. > The only one I can't seem to assign a function to is the gear shifter. > I > also have the Microsoft Sidewinder F F Wheel, and it works the same way by > assigning each button a function. I use to use it on my old system. > Game On All! Sly! > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:10 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels > > >> Hi all, >> I am currently working on the code to handle force feeback steering >> wheels. >> How many of you have steering wheels? >> If you have one, can you assign keyboard strokes to your buttons? >> I am trying to figure out the best way to program in gathering racer >> data >> such as speed and fuel from the wheel buttons. >> Thanks for any info, >> Che >> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels
Hi Jerry, All joysticks and steering wheels will work with Rail Racer, as with other racing titles like Top Speed and USA Games upcoming Raceway. Rail Racer is in testing stages now, but you can get a audio demo of the work inprogress at http://www.blindAdrenaline.com Later, Che - Original Message - From: "gerry leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels > does the Microsoft wheel work with this? > - Original Message - > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer steering wheels > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hello Chea. I have the Logitech FF Mono wheel. The way I understand it >> though is you assign the functions of the game via the button numbers. >> I'm not a programmer so not sure if this will help. >> >> - -- >> To find a friend one must close one eye; to keep him -- two. >> -- Norman Douglas >> Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFEKvEIyw8Or2IRAmcCAJ0YMvHaYUuVUUniubn3IxFngC2muQCfTN+c >> FUzfQZMiU9MwPzaelZF9K3Y= >> =MDt+ >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> __ NOD32 1.1461 (20060329) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game chat
BTW, for anyone that is in desperate need of a microphone, you can use a spare set of headphones as a mic. Just plug your headphones into the microphone jack of your soundcard and speak into the earpiece. This doesn't produce the best audio in the world, but it will work in a pinch. Also, another excellent voice chat site is http://www.vipConduit.com using ventrillo. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game chat > Hi Allan > Yes a microphone is a must in a voice chat room! > Ron and Michael the current and past editors of Audyssey regularly visit > the > voice chats. > One thing I forgot is that there is another voice chat session Saturdays > at > 3:00 PM eastern designed for people who can't make it on a Thursday or for > people on the other side of the planet who should be asleep > at 2:00 aAM. > smiles, > Phil > > > - Original Message - > From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game chat > > >> Thanks Phil, that makes a lot of sense. Perhaps I should start looking >> for >> a >> microphone or whatever it is that I need to check it out. smile >> >> allan >> Come to me and I will give you rest... >> Jesus of nazareth 33 AD >> - Original Message - >> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game chat >> >> >>> Hi Allan, >>> If there is a game developer in the chat room you can ask him or her >>> direct >>> questions and get answers. >>> Depending on who is in the room, you can get details that would not be >>> suitable for the whole list. >>> For example, there was just myself and Michael in the room so we were >>> able >>> to talk about changes in the GMA game engine. >>> Sometimes I use the room to discuss changes in one of my games with a >>> beta >>> tester or two. >>> With the correct setup, a game developer could even demonstrate a new >>> game >>> in the room. >>> Phil >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:07 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game chat >>> >>> >>>> Hi Phil, >>>> What happens in blind game chat that doesn't already happen on the >>>> list? >>>> thanks, >>>> allan >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Game Developers Conference 2006
Howdy, I tried the link http://www.game-accessibility.com - But I am getting a 401 error there. Any ideas? Later, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Rail Racer in the chat room tomorrow
Hi gang, I plan on coming to the game chat tomorrow on for the people to talk about Rail Racer and take questions and suggestions. The event is at 3PM eastern Saturday, right? I hope to be able to play the Rail Racer alpha so you guys can hear it if you like. See ya there. Che Blind Adrenaline Simulations Games from one of us, for all of us. http://www.blindAdrenaline.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] voice Chat in a half hour
Hi all, I for one will be in the game chat, set to start at 3pm eastern. If you have any questions or suggestions for Rail Racer, come in and fire away. The chat will be at http://www.for-the-people.com My nickname on the site is Comedian. See ya there. Che Blind Adrenaline Simulations Games from one of us, for all of us. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] voice Chat in a half hour
Hi ya, Yeah, I will try and give regular updates in their as time permits. Look forward to talking with you, Che - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voice Chat in a half hour > wish I could be there, but my membership hasn't been approved yet. I would > love to be in that chat. Hey Che, are you gonna have one possibly week > after > next? I will be unable to attend one next saturday due to that I will be > in > Atlanta in C++ competition for a group at school called PBL. I want to > hear > the audio of Rail Racer. > BEAN > - Original Message - > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:35 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] voice Chat in a half hour > > >> Hi all, >> I for one will be in the game chat, set to start at 3pm eastern. >> If you have any questions or suggestions for Rail Racer, come in and >> fire >> away. >> The chat will be at >> http://www.for-the-people.com >> My nickname on the site is Comedian. >> See ya there. >> Che >> Blind Adrenaline Simulations >> Games from one of us, for all of us. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Utopia
Hi guys, I thought I would check out Utopia on swerve.net. I went through the registration process, but then I came to the dreaded security code, which is a graphic which I cannot read. How did you guys that play Utopia get past this? I tried looking at the web page code, but it offered no clues. Thanks, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Your IP address
Hey Raul, Thanks for doing that man. I for one appreciate it. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Your IP address > Just go to WhatIsMyIP.org > - Original Message - > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:23 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Your IP address > > >>I know there are many ways to find out what your public IP address is >> but I figured that I'd let you guys know I put a tool on >> www.asmodean.net/myip so if you need to know now you can. >> >> This is good for gaming in case you do not know your public IP address >> and need to give it out. This especially comes in handy for games such >> as Top Speed 2. >> >> Cheers. >> >> -- >> Even God lends a hand to honest boldness. >> -- Menander >> Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 4/5/2006 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 4/5/2006 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Logitech joystick help
The profiler can be used with jaws, you just have to use the jaws cursor a bit. If you are recording keystrokes in the profiler, put the jaws cursor on record, then hit the left mouse button key. This will begin recording. Now hit whichever key you want to assign. Next hit the left mouse button key again and the recording will stop. Once you've done this a couple of times it is fairly easy to do. Everything else in the profiler is pretty much standard stuff. Good luck, - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Logitech joystick help > Hi Mike, > In my case my Logitech game pad worked fine out of the box without > having to use the profiler to configure it. > However, it looks like in your case you might want to find someone > sighted to help you configure the joystick with the profiler. > Hth. > > > Mike Maslo wrote: >> Hi List: >> >> I just got a logitech joystick with force feedback and not knowing why it >> don't work right. >> >> I was trying to use it with super tennis and the man would not move when >> I >> moved the joystick right and left. >> >> Also I was driving top speed and the joystick just did not seem to let me >> configure it properly. I could not get it to recognize left right up and >> down. >> >> Any ideas? Also how did everybody get calebrated properly? >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Logitech joystick help
Hi ya, I'm not sure what you mean about the twist button. This is just to record keystroke combinations to your joystick. Say for instance, you wanted to map the "S" key to a joystick button, this would allow you to do it. Just hit record with the jaws cursor left mouse button, then your keystroke or strokes you want to assign to that button, then click stop recording by left clicking with your jaws cursor again. All of this is found under assign new command in the profiler. I gave instructions for this, because it is the hardest thing to do in the profiler with Jaws, and took me a while to figure out. Everything else in the profiler is fairly basic windows interface stuff, though one has to use the jaws cursor a good deal, and unless there is something I am missing, requires no sighted assistance. I don't know about any other screenreaders though, they might make doing all of this a breeze. Good luck, Che - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Logitech joystick help > Che: > > When I click on record when do I click on the record? Do I hit the twist > button first to record for that or how?? Can you please explain that a > little bit more? > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] neopets
Hi ya, Are you saying it is a law that you can't own a virtual pet? you can't be serious man. If so, how far does this law spread? Is it just for corporations or what? Thanks for any info, Che - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] neopets > looks to be a vertual pet game. > Personally I have no time for such games. > I had friends with vertual pets, and well I never could understand > all that stuff. > At any case its alegal here to use them. > They destract people in schools and work for no purpose so you get > fined if you sell buy or own them. > There was a couple years where they got popular. > But as quickly as it started it all went away. > At 05:34 AM 4/19/2006, you wrote: >>Then how about telling us about the game instead of just giving the >>referral >>address. >> >> >>___ >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.2/314 - Release Date: 4/16/2006 > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] for-the-people problem
Hey man, FTP has a help desk just for this kind of thing. Try them out. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] for-the-people problem > well I tried what you suggested, I unblocked all pop-ups, and put in my > allow pop-ups from this site area, just in case the for-the-people.com > website, and I still do not get a "run" button all I get is this "ok" > button. Who knows, but I can tell you it is starting to get on my last > nerve, *crazy laugh* > BEAN > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games?
Hi ya, I am programming Rail Racer, a futuristic racing game, using vb.net 2003. Like Jim said, it has everything you need to program excellent games, and with todays modern screaming fast computers, language speed really isn't an issue, especially since we don't have to deal with graphics. I agree with Thomas that the documentation out there for vb.net could be better, especially regarding the directX stuff, but overall I'd give it a b minus. The only thing I have run into that I have had any major problems with is force feedback control. I am not sure if this problem has been fixed in vb.net 2005 or not. The reason I haven't upgraded to 2005 is because there are currently no advanced jaws scripts for this version as there are for 2003. However, scripts are being worked on for 2005. Overall, I am very pleased with vb.net and will probably stick with it for my next game as well. BTW, I only started programming last August, and I have a fully playable racing title that should be ready for full release this summer, so that gives you an indication of how fast you can learn the language if you don't mind burning the midnight oil. Good luck, Che - Original Message - From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > Hi Richard, Thomas and everyone, Thanks for your responses, I appreciate > them. > Instead of buying VB, have you guys heard of Visual Basic Express 2005? > Apparrently it's free. Will I be able to program games with this, or if I > have to buy, I suppose I don't need the Enterprise Edition of VB? The VB > course offered is quite expensive, but includes VB, although I'm not sure > what version, studio or enterprise. > For VB, what is the difference between studio and VB enterprise editions? > Thomas, if I get the Visual Studio Standard, would I still be able to make > quite good games? > Thanks > Ari > - Original Message - > From: "anduril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > > >> Hi this sounds good is there a manual on how to programme i am a basic >> beginner i have done a little of vb can some one help i just need a >> manual >> some book i can down load to read and try out >> >> jamie >> - Original Message - >> From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? >> >> >> > well, I am taking a game programming class that is geared toward the >> > sighted >> > community. It is being taught in C++, and what I hear that is pretty > much >> > the game programming standard, but I don't know if it is or not. The > tools >> > that I use work great with JAWS this IDE will compile both C and C++. >> > It >> > is >> > the DevCpp IDE and is a great price too, it is free from: >> > www.bloodshed.com and works absolutely great. Also with this IDE they > have >> > a >> > great game library called allegro. I don't know if it will work with > other >> > languages or not, but the allegro game library will allow you to write >> > both >> > linux and windows games with no diffuculty. How I know this is because >> > I >> > am >> > the only Windows user in the class and the other students are on Linux > and >> > the C and C++ language will swap over between Windows and Linux. I hope >> > this >> > helped and if you want any other information, let me know. >> > BEAN >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> > visit >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> > any subscription changes via the web. >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games?
I think the important thing here isn't the language you pick up and learn, so much as the content you put out. Any of the discussed programming languages can be learned and made to do anything you want for the accesible gaming community, but what will make your game stick out is your creativity. It seems to me that we've been stuck for a while without any truly original game ideas out there. I think if this genre of games is going to move forward, developers are going to have to think further outside the box, and start coming up with titles that aren't tired remakes of what has come before. My reccomendation is to learn the basics of your chosen language, produce a couple of simple games so you learn how to maneuver some of the more common pitfalls of game creation, then sit back and spend a good deal of time outlining and polishing a unique game idea before coding your masterpiece. As a wise and wealthy friend of mine one said, "Originality sells." Just my two Lincolns worth.. Che - Original Message - From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > Hi Richard, Thomas and everyone, Thanks for your responses, I appreciate > them. > Instead of buying VB, have you guys heard of Visual Basic Express 2005? > Apparrently it's free. Will I be able to program games with this, or if I > have to buy, I suppose I don't need the Enterprise Edition of VB? The VB > course offered is quite expensive, but includes VB, although I'm not sure > what version, studio or enterprise. > For VB, what is the difference between studio and VB enterprise editions? > Thomas, if I get the Visual Studio Standard, would I still be able to make > quite good games? > Thanks > Ari > - Original Message - > From: "anduril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > > >> Hi this sounds good is there a manual on how to programme i am a basic >> beginner i have done a little of vb can some one help i just need a >> manual >> some book i can down load to read and try out >> >> jamie >> - Original Message - >> From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? >> >> >> > well, I am taking a game programming class that is geared toward the >> > sighted >> > community. It is being taught in C++, and what I hear that is pretty > much >> > the game programming standard, but I don't know if it is or not. The > tools >> > that I use work great with JAWS this IDE will compile both C and C++. >> > It >> > is >> > the DevCpp IDE and is a great price too, it is free from: >> > www.bloodshed.com and works absolutely great. Also with this IDE they > have >> > a >> > great game library called allegro. I don't know if it will work with > other >> > languages or not, but the allegro game library will allow you to write >> > both >> > linux and windows games with no diffuculty. How I know this is because >> > I >> > am >> > the only Windows user in the class and the other students are on Linux > and >> > the C and C++ language will swap over between Windows and Linux. I hope >> > this >> > helped and if you want any other information, let me know. >> > BEAN >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> > visit >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> > any subscription changes via the web. >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games?
I bought the standard version of vb.net 2003 for 90 bucks last summer. You can get the 2005 express version for free right now, but I'm not sure what all limitations it might have, if any. I learned by reading the Microsoft Developers website, and tons of tutorials on the web. It really is quite easy to learn overall, but I would have to look at learning c# if I were to do it over again, as there is a lot more documentation for the C variants, especially regarding directX, which is important to game development. Also, I agree with Thomas that safari books is an excellent resource, and probably the cheapest library of books you will ever have access to. I bit off quite a large programming chunck with such an ambitious project as Rail Racer, and fortunately, I have been able to get it done, But I would reccomend you start off with much simpler projects to get started. I did a couple of small shooter games while I was learning, but , if I had it to do over again, I would opt for something easier for my first commercial game. Good luck, Che www.blindAdrenaline.com Blind Adrenaline Simulations Games from one of us, for all of us. - Original Message - From: "Mike Maslo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > Che: > > How did you learn vb.net?? Where can I get that from and what do you > recommend to learn from?? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Che > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:17 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > > Hi ya, > I am programming Rail Racer, a futuristic racing game, using vb.net > 2003. > Like Jim said, it has everything you need to program excellent games, and > with todays modern screaming fast computers, language speed really isn't > an > issue, especially since we don't have to deal with graphics. > I agree with Thomas that the documentation out there for vb.net could be > better, especially regarding the directX stuff, but overall I'd give it a > b > minus. > The only thing I have run into that I have had any major problems with is > force feedback control. I am not sure if this problem has been fixed in > vb.net 2005 or not. > The reason I haven't upgraded to 2005 is because there are currently no > advanced jaws scripts for this version as there are for 2003. However, > scripts are being worked on for 2005. > Overall, I am very pleased with vb.net and will probably stick with it > for > > my next game as well. > BTW, I only started programming last August, and I have a fully playable > racing title that should be ready for full release this summer, so that > gives you an indication of how fast you can learn the language if you > don't > mind burning the midnight oil. > Good luck, > Che > > - Original Message - > From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > > >> Hi Richard, Thomas and everyone, Thanks for your responses, I appreciate >> them. >> Instead of buying VB, have you guys heard of Visual Basic Express 2005? >> Apparrently it's free. Will I be able to program games with this, or if I >> have to buy, I suppose I don't need the Enterprise Edition of VB? The VB >> course offered is quite expensive, but includes VB, although I'm not sure >> what version, studio or enterprise. >> For VB, what is the difference between studio and VB enterprise editions? >> Thomas, if I get the Visual Studio Standard, would I still be able to >> make >> quite good games? >> Thanks >> Ari >> - Original Message - >> From: "anduril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? >> >> >>> Hi this sounds good is there a manual on how to programme i am a basic >>> beginner i have done a little of vb can some one help i just need a >>> manual >>> some book i can down load to read and try out >>> >>> jamie >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? >>> >>> >>> > well, I am taking
[Audyssey] Programming online play
original quote: > You can make internet playable games with C++, C#, and Visual Basic. The > library that gives you all the majic is DirectX DirectPlay end quote It is my understanding that directPlay as we know it is being phased out with the advent of Windows Vista and directX 10. I myself am studying windows sockets in the hopes of getting online play going, and I would reccomend the same to anyone else considering future online play. There is a set of activeX controls called socket wrench out there that aids in the creation of multi player socket connections that you might also look into. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming computer games? > Hi Richard, > You can make internet playable games with C++, C#, and Visual Basic. The > library that gives you all the majic is DirectX DirectPlay in Windows. > In Linux SDL does have some kind of Network API which allows for online > gaming, but never looked in to it much. > If Java was your language I think the NIO.jar lib would be the place to > work on networked gaming. > In short most languages have a way to do it. Just a matter of using the > right tool for the job. > > > > > Richard Bennett wrote: >> well I think I am going to stick with C++ instead of learning the C# >> language right now, but that's not to say that I won't eventually try and >> learn it. But if you can make internet games with C++ I don't know if it >> would be worth it to learn C# or not. >> BEAN >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] strategy games
Hi Charles, I have played with those guys on ftp before. Most of them use a physical chess board and simply relay their move to the other person. This works quite well, and can be done with messenger or any other text chat program. I can tell you from personal experience, the guys on ftp are very good and if you are new to chess, they will wipe the floor with you with no remorse. I reccomend KChess if you are looking for an excellent and accessible chess program, though online play is not an option as of the version I have at least. Good luck. Che - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games > If anyone knows of a JAWS friendly way to play chess online, let me know? > Thanks. I know that it can, and is, done in the chess parlor of > > www.for-the-people.comm > > or any voice or text chat room, but I'm looking for an easy to use server. > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games > > >> Smiles thanks. All my work is for my own enjoyment, but why not share >> it. >> >> With the >> Strat Instructions Jukebox is my way to get others involved to help me >> reach >> my dream of having blind community sport sim leagues. >> >> You can also email me off: >> >> http://www.playball.ws >> >> and let me now if your interested and what sports. I then send out >> emails >> at times letting you know what I am doing. >> >> If you do belong to FTP then I am going to the game chat and there you >> can >> ask me questions there. >> >> Crash >> - Original Message - >> From: "eloheem team" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games >> >> >>> This sounds really great, being a blind man that was sighted at a time, >>> and >>> actually played Football, Basketball, baseball and also did some boxing >>> I'm >>> constantly looking for a real sport simulation game that I can really >>> command and enjoy! Glad to hear what you are doing and good luck >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games >>> >>> >>>> The strat-o-Matic company only does American Major sports. >>>> >>>> The audio instructions for the >>>> Strat o Matic Instructions Jukebox >>>> Will help you along with learning the games. I have just downloaded to >>>> playball.ws a file that is two hours long. I still needed to write the >>>> blurb for it in the jukebox. >>>> >>>> The strat o Matic football had a big break through in making it >>>> accessible, >>>> that allow me to work with it. I was able to find software that even >>>> helps >>>> Jaws to make the play calling a snap with >>>> Hot Spot Clicker. This was the only game that needed a third party >>>> software. The good folks who created and improved Hot Spot Clicker are >>>> blind programmers who developed the tool to help with those new types >>>> of >>>> graphical buttons and such that Jaws has overlooked. The developemnt >>>> of >>>> Jaws recently has gone away from making applications accessible to >>>> doing >>>> things on the net Daisy books. Hot Spot Clicker tool is for >>>> applications, >>>> but it does help in gaming as well. >>>> >>>> I am not a first class Jaws script writer, but what I have done so far >>>> the >>>> games with Strat I am proud of and willing now to share my work with >>>> others, >>>> so they too , can play Sports Sims. Where you can replay seasons from >>>> the >>>> past. Replaying the 1985 football season to relive the Bears >>>> Championship >>>> season. I have also recently purchase the 1985 Basketball season to >>>> replay >>>> the season and coach a rookie name Jordan. Relive the 1980's Oylimpic >>>> Miricle. Right now I am
[Audyssey] Chess for the blind
You can find out about K Chess at: http://www.arkangles.com/kchess/ I bought KChess Elite myself, but they have different versions at different prices. The guys in the chess parlor on FTP are very helpful for the beginner chess player. You can use the KChess program to keep track of moves if you play against someone online, but I highly reccomend you get a chess set for the blind from Ann Morris, or any other vendor of blind products, as having a board in front of you allows you to feel the pieces and get a good overview of the board. There are also chess lessons in audio format out there that you can track down and listen to. Good luck, Che - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games > hey Che, where would someone get the KChess program? What is the price of > this program. I was looking and have been wanting to learn chess for many > years and want to try and teach myself the game. > BEAN > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Rail Racer update
Hi all, I just wanted to keep everyone up to date on the status of Rail Racer, my racing simulation for the accessible gaming community. We are entering the final stages of the alpha, and I hope to be releasing the beta soon for purchase to the general public. Since my last update to the list, a lot of progress has been made. Besides general improvements to the overall game play and audio environment, the game now includes the ability to choose from a variety of tracks, and earn money from race victories that can be spent on nitro packs which allow a dramatic temporary boost in speed. Also, a web posting system has been integrated, which allows you to see how you compare to the other racers out there, both in track times as well as money earned from winning races. Lots of potential here for some serious smack talking. the track editor has been finished, which will allow players to create and race their own tracks, and I will be hosting a competition upon release of the beta that will pay out cash money to the best tracks you guys can come up with. The winners of the competition will also have their tracks included in the final release of the game. Currently, I have several tracks ready to race, including reproductions of Michigan International Speedway, Watkins Glen, Daytona, and others that are brand new creations, such as a slalom course. Many more tracks will be included in the beta and final releases. One main difference with these tracks over the real versions is you will have to deal with jumps and loops in addition to efficiently maneuvering the track. The next stage of development will include the ability to purchase more advanced vehicles for racing against superior competition, which will in turn allow one to earn more money for races. As you earn more money, you will unlock higher level tracks, so there will always be an incentive to drive as fast as possible for that good old green and bragging rights. The alpha testing team has just received this update, and depending on how testing goes, I should be releasing the beta in the near future. I don't want to give any specific dates, as odd things can happen in development and I don't want to dissapoint folks, but so far things are progressing smoothly. I would like to thank the alpha team for a great job done so far, and I invite them all to post their thoughts about the game on list here if they wish. If I am not mistaken, I think all the alpha team members are subscribed to the list. I have updated the website with more game info, and you can check that out at the link below. If you have any questions, feel free to send them on, as I am always looking for thoughts on how to make the game better. The slogan of Blind Adrenaline Simulations is "Games from one of us, for all of us" and I mean that completely. I feel the best way to make a great and unique game is to include your suggestions, so bring it on. I will be uploading a new audio demo of the game in the next few days, and I will update the list when it is ready. I look forward to hearing from you, either directly or on the list here. Che Martin Developer website: http://www.blindAdrenaline.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer update
No worries, plenty of variety for any racing taste, and in case you don't like what is available, you can create your own track. Later, Che - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer update > as long as you have some oval, tri-oval, and circle tracks to race on, > that > is fine for me. Just make sure there are lots of round tracks to race on > for > those who don't like road courses. > BEAN > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer update
Yup, you can send and share to your heart's content. - Original Message - From: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rail Racer update > will we have the option of sending our created tracks to other raceers out > there like we do with top speed? > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
