Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas

 == Initial Committers ==
 || '''Name''' || '''Email''' || '''Affiliation''' || '''iCLA''' ||
 || Paul Fremantle || p...@apache.org || Individual, wso2.com || yes ||
 || Jonathan Marsh || jonat...@wso2.com || Individual, wso2.com || ||
 || Peter Linnell  || plinn...@apache.org || Individual, suse.com || ||
 || Afkham Azeez || az...@apache.org || Individual wso2.com || yes ||
 || Lakmal Warusawithana || lak...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Damitha Kumarage || dami...@apache.org || Individual wso2.com || yes ||
 || Samisa Abeysinghe || sam...@apache.org || Individual wso2.com || yes ||
 || Nirmal Fernando || nirmal070...@apache.org  || Individual wso2.com || yes 
 ||
 || Sajith Kariyawasam || saj...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Lahiru Sandaruwan || lahi...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Isuru Haththotuwa || isu...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Madhura Peiris || madh...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Mariangela Hills || mariang...@wso2.com || Individual wso2.com || ||
 || Marlon Pierce || mpie...@apache.org || Individual, Indiana
 University || yes ||
 || Suresh Marru  || sma...@apache.org || Individual, Indiana
 University || yes ||
 || Amila Jayasekara || ami...@apache.org || Individual, Indiana
 University || yes ||
 || David Nalley || da...@gnsa.us || Citrix || yes ||
 || Chip Childers || chipchild...@apache.org || SunGard Availability
 Services || yes ||
 || Joe Brockmeier || j...@apache.org || Individual, Citrix || yes||
 || Noah Slater || nsla...@apache.org || Individual, Engine Yard || yes||
 || John Kinsella || j...@apache.org || Individual, Stratosec || yes||
 || Lahiru Gunathilake || lah...@apache.org || Individual, Indiana
 University || yes ||
 || Nandana Mihindukulasooriya || nand...@apache.org || Individual,
 Center for Open Middleware || yes ||
 || Isuru Perera || isu...@wso2.com || Individual, wso2.com || ||
 || Reka Thirunavakurussu || r...@wso2.com || Individual, wso2.com || ||
 || Andrew Hart || ah...@apache.org || Individual, NASA Jet Propulsion
 Laboratory || yes ||

 == Sponsors ==
 === Champion ===
 Ross Gardler, Apache
 === Nominated Mentors ===
  1. Afkham Azeez az...@apache.org (Member)
  2. Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org (Member)
  3. Marlon Pierce mpie...@apache.org (Member)
  4. Chip Childers chipchild...@apache.org (Member)
  5. Mohammad Nour mn...@apache.org (Member)
  6. Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org (Member)
 === Sponsoring Entity ===
 The Apache Incubator
 [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StratosProposal

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Re: [VOTE] Accept jclouds into the Apache Incubator

2013-04-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 Accept jclouds into the Apache Incubator.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rebecca Wood silky...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  I am calling a VOTE for acceptance of jclouds into the Apache Incubator.
 
  The vote will close on Monday, April 29, 2013.
 
  [ ] +1 Accept jclouds into the Apache Incubator.
  [ ] +0 Don't care.
  [ ] -1 Don't accept jclouds into the Incubator because...

 +1 (binding)

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: New challenges (Was: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-10-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 for nominating Benson.

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org wrote:

 I prefer simple.  I'd rather see nominations and votes done via-email with
 IPMC votes noted as (binding).

 My +1 for nominating Benson.

 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

  Indeed, but that might be better done if/when Steve is enhanced to
  support private (as opposed to secret) votes, as hopefully that would
  not require the same overhead.


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Oozie podling from Apache Incubator

2012-08-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 (binding)

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On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Steve Loughran steve.lough...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10 August 2012 16:12, Alejandro Abdelnur t...@cloudera.com wrote:
 This is a call for vote to graduate Oozie podling from Apache Incubator.
 
 Oozie entered the Incubator in July of 2011. Since then it has added
 two new committers and made two significant releases following the ASF
 policies and guidelines. The community of Oozie is active, healthy and
 growing and has demonstrated the ability to self-govern using accepted
 Apache practices. Oozie community has voted to proceed with graduation
 [1] and the result can be found at [2].
 
 Please cast your votes:
 
 [  ] +1 Graduate Oozie podling from Apache Incubator
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to the graduation status of Oozie podling
 [  ] -1 Reject graduation of Oozie podling from Apache Incubator
 
 
 +1, binding
 
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Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP

2012-06-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 straight to TLP

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On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 For those not following board@, the board is proposing the creation
 of a new TLP (tentatively called Apache Steve) which will serve as
 the project behind our STV and voting tools.
 
 The impetus behind this was when I suggested to the OpenStack
 people to use STV for their voting system, which kind of re-kicked
 the idea in my head that our voting tools were too good to not
 provide as releasable code to the world at large.
 
 Since all code was developed w/i the ASF, by ASF people, and
 is under the ALv2 (either implied/confirmed by the authors or
 explicit in the code itself), there is some debate on whether
 or not Incubation is even required... The board would like to
 recommend to the Incubator that the board simply proceed with
 the creation of this project at the next board meeting.
 
 Thx.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Kato

2012-06-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 binding

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On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

 +1 binding
 
 Regards,
 Alan
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
 
 Based on the status of this podling as reported in the June board
 report, I propose that the IPMC retire the Kato podling.
 
 I'm not sure how long a vote for this should remain open.
 
 here is my +1.
 
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Re: Wink status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)

2012-05-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Jukka,

Agree with your and Ant's assessment

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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:37 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 So strictly speaking this doesn't seem to meet the documented
 Incubator graduation requirements.

 Thanks for the insight! It sounds like Wink should try attracting more
 active committers or go try graduating into a subproject as discussed.

 Alternatively, as you say, a viable enough TLP could be formed if
 enough committed mentors or other IPMC members are willing to step up
 to provide enough diverse oversight for a  standalone Wink PMC.

 PS. I talked with Steve Loughran about his mentorship in Wink. He's no
 longer actively involved, so I removed him from the list of Wink
 mentors. That leaves Wink with Kevan and Davanum as mentors.

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Re: [VOTE] CloudStack for Apache Incubator

2012-04-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 binding

-- dims


On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:

 
 +1  binding
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Monday, April 09, 2012 06:32:24 PM Kevin Kluge wrote:
 Hi All.  I'd like to call for a VOTE for CloudStack to enter the
 Incubator.  The proposal is available at [1] and I have also included it
 below.   Please vote with: +1: accept CloudStack into Incubator
 +0: don't care
 -1: do not accept CloudStack into Incubator (please explain the objection)
 
 The vote is open for at least 72 hours from now (until at least 19:00
 US-PST on April 12, 2012).
 
 Thanks for the consideration.
 
 -kevin
 
 [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal
 
 
 
 
 Abstract
 
 CloudStack is an IaaS (Infrastracture as a Service) cloud orchestration
 platform.
 
 Proposal
 
 CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an
 IaaS cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator
 functions and a web UI for user and administrator access. Administrators
 can provision physical infrastructure (e.g., servers, network elements,
 storage) into an instance of CloudStack, while end users can use the
 CloudStack self-service API and UI for the provisioning and management of
 virtual machines, virtual disks, and virtual networks.
 
 Citrix Systems, Inc. submits this proposal to donate the CloudStack source
 code, documentation, websites, and trademarks to the Apache Software
 Foundation (ASF).
 
 Background
 
 Amazon and other cloud pioneers invented IaaS clouds. Typically these
 clouds provide virtual machines to end users. CloudStack additionally
 provides baremetal OS installation to end users via a self-service
 interface. The management of physical resources to provide the larger
 goal of cloud service delivery is known as orchestration. IaaS clouds
 are usually described as elastic -- an elastic service is one that
 allows its user to rapidly scale up or down their need for resources.
 
 A number of open source projects and companies have been created to
 implement IaaS clouds. Cloud.com started CloudStack in 2008 and released
 the source under GNU General Public License version 3 (GPL v3) in 2010.
 Citrix acquired Cloud.com, including CloudStack, in 2011. Citrix
 re-licensed the CloudStack source under Apache License v2 in April, 2012.
 
 Rationale
 
 IaaS clouds provide the ability to implement datacenter operations in a
 programmable fashion. This functionality is tremendously powerful and
 benefits the community by providing:
 
 - More efficient use of datacenter personnel
 - More efficient use of datacenter hardware
 - Better responsiveness to user requests
 - Better uptime/availability through automation
 
 While there are several open source IaaS efforts today, none are governed
 by an independent foundation such as ASF. Vendor influence and/or
 proprietary implementations may limit the community's ability to choose
 the hardware and software for use in the datacenter. The community at
 large will benefit from the ability to enhance the orchestration layer as
 needed for particular hardware or software support, and to implement
 algorithms and features that may reduce cost or increase user
 satisfaction for specific use cases. In this respect the independent
 nature of the ASF is key to the long term health and success of the
 project.
 
 Initial Goals
 
 The CloudStack project has two initial goals after the proposal is
 accepted and the incubation has begun.
 
 The Cloudstack Project's first goal is to ensure that the CloudStack
 source includes only third party code that is licensed under the Apache
 License or open source licenses that are approved by the ASF for use in
 ASF projects. The CloudStack Project has begun the process of removing
 third party code that is not licensed under an ASF approved license. This
 is an ongoing process that will continue into the incubation period.
 Third party code contributed to CloudStack under the CloudStack
 contribution agreement was assigned to Cloud.com in exchange for
 distributing CloudStack under GPLv3. The CloudStack project has begun the
 process of amending the previous CloudStack contribution agreements to
 obtain consent from existing contributors to change the CloudStack
 project's license. In the event that an existing contributor does not
 consent to this change, the project is prepared to remove that
 contributor's code. Additionally, there are binary dependencies on
 redistributed libraries that are not provided with an ASF-approved
 license. Finally, the CloudStack has source files incorporated from third
 parties that were not provided with an ASF-approved license. We have
 begun the process of re-writing this software. This is an ongoing process
 that will extend into the incubation period. These issues are discussed
 in more detail later in the proposal.
 
 Although CloudStack is open source, many design documents and discussions
 that should have been publicly available and accessible were not
 

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to Jukka. Many Many Thanks to Noel for guiding us all these years.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 Ross Gardler wrote:

 I'm ready to vote, but Chris said it looks like the remaining folks
 (including me) that were in the running have aligned beyond the
 following nominee: Where is the mail from Noel saying he is no longer
 standing? Have I missed something?

 There wasn't one.  I was traveling when the vote started.  No worries.  I
 have no issue with standing down after 8 years, and Jukka is an excellent
 and active successor.  I was exceedingly pleased to see his message that he
 had reconsidered, was willing to stand as Incubator PMC Chair, and would
 rotate out of the JackRabbit VP position.

        --- Noel



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Re: [VOTE] DeviceMap to join the Apache incubator

2011-12-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 * devicemap-commits @ incubator.apache.org
 * devicemap-private @ incubator.apache.org

 === Subversion Directory ===
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/incubator/devicemap

 === Issue Tracking ===
 DMAP project in JIRA.

 == Sponsors ==

 === Champion ===
 Bertrand Delacretaz

 === Nominated Mentors ===
 * Sylvain Wallez
 * Kevan Miller
 * Bertrand Delacretaz

 === Sponsoring Entity ===
 Incubator PMC

 *** DeviceMap proposal ends ***

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator

2011-11-08 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 as graphs: Java Web-Start application (Screen-Sharing 
 and Recording) 
 http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webstart.png 
 Java Web-Application 
 (http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webapp.png ).

 === Cryptography ===
 OpenMeetings can be deployed using HTTPS and RTMPS (Flash Streaming and 
 Remoting over SSL): http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/RTMPSandHTTPS

 = Required Resources =
 Subversion Directory:  
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings

 Issue Tracking: JIRA (OPENMEETINGS)

 Required Mailing lists:

  * openmeetings-u...@incubator.apache.org
  * openmeetings-...@incubator.apache.org
  * openmeetings-comm...@incubator.apache.org

 Wiki, Webspace: Confluence or similar software where we can integrate our 
 current wiki and documentation 
 (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MainPage?tm=6)

 Other Resources:

 Continuous integration and Nightly Builds may eventually require hardware

 We are currently hosted on googlecode. There was an option in googlecode 
 available to transfer a googlecode project to Apache. We would like to ask 
 the hosting staff at Googlecode if they could maybe give us advice how we 
 can easily get a copy of our project to import it into the new project space 
 at Apache.

 == Initial Committers ==
  * Sebastian Wagner seba.wagner at gmail dot com
  * Oliver Becherer (smoeker) ich at oliver-becherer dot name
  * Rodion Volkov volkov.rodion at gmail dot com
  * Alexei Fedotov aaf at apache dot org
  * Evgeny Rovinsky e.rovinsky at gmail dot com
  * Maxim Solodovnik  solomax666 at gmail dot com 
  * Sascha Xander  sascha.xander at googlemail dot com 
  * Johnny Strom johnny.strom at osp dot fi
  * Eugen Schwert  eugen.schwert at googlemail dot com 

 If any other existing Apache or Openmeetings committers would like to be 
 grandfathered into the list then feel free to ask.

 = Sponsors =
 === Champion ===
  * Andrus Adamchik aadamchik at apache dot org

 === Mentors ===
 Volunteers, please.

  * Alexei Fedotov aaf at apache dot org
  * Jim Jagielski jim at apache dot org
  * Ross Gardler rgardler at apache dot org
  * Yegor Kozlov yegor at apache dot org

 === Sponsoring Entity ===
 We would like to ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor Openmeetings.








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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Deltacloud to TLP

2011-10-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) 
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:

 +1...
 
 Cheers,
 Chris
 
 On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:42 AM, David Lutterkort wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 as described in the discussion thread[1], the Deltacloud community feels
 that we are ready to graduate to a top-level Apache project.
 
 To that end, I'd like to have a vote by the IPMC so that we can put the
 resolution given below onto the agenda of the next Apache Board meeting.
 Please vote by Thursday, 2011-10-20, 8am PDT.
 
 Since starting incubation in May, 2010, we've made several releases,
 added contributors, and have the support of our mentors to graduate.
 
 Thanks for your consideration, and voting,
 David
 
 [1] 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201110.mbox/%3c1318464232.2751.7.ca...@melon.watzmann.net%3e
 
 Resolution:
 ===
 
 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
 the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
 a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
 of open-source software implementing web service API's for interacting
 with cloud providers, and corresponding client libraries, for
 distribution at no charge to the public.
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
 (PMC), to be known as the Apache Deltacloud Project, be and hereby is
 established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to web
 service API's for interacting with cloud providers, and corresponding
 client libraries; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Deltacloud be and hereby
 is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
 the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Deltacloud Project,
 and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within
 the scope of responsibility of the Apache Deltacloud Project; and be it
 further
 
 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
 appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Deltacloud
 Project:
 
 * Marios Andreou (mar...@apache.org)
 * Michal Fojtik  (mfoj...@apache.org)
 * Jim Jagielski  (j...@apache.org)
 * Chris Lalancette   (clala...@apache.org)
 * David Lutterkort   (lut...@apache.org)
 * Sang-Min Park  (sp...@apache.org)
 * Carl Trieloff  (cctriel...@apache.org)
 * Eric Woods (wood...@apache.org)
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that David Lutterkort be
 appointed to the office of Vice President, Deltacloud, to serve in
 accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
 and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
 removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
 it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
 development and increased participation in the Deltacloud Project; and
 be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Deltacloud Project be and hereby is
 tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
 Deltacloud podling; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
 Deltacloud podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
 hereafter discharged.
 
 
 
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 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 As discussed, the PhoneGap project would like to enter the Incubator
 under the Apache Callback name (potential alternative names to be
 discussed during incubation). The initial proposal has been well
 received and there are no major open issues, so it's time to vote!
 
 Thus I'm now calling a formal VOTE on the Apache Callback proposal as
 included below. The proposal is also available at
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal on
 the PhoneGap wiki, and I'll place a copy for our archives on the
 Incubator wiki as soon as it stops giving me internal server errors.
 
 Please VOTE:
 
[ ] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation
[ ] -1  Don't accept Apache Callback for incubation because...
 
 This vote is open for the next 72 hours. Everyone is welcome to
 participate, but only votes from the Incubator PMC members are
 binding.
 
 Thanks! My vote is +1.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 
 
 
 Apache Callback Proposal
 
 
 Abstract
 
 
 Apache Callback is a platform for building native mobile applications
 using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
 
 Proposal
 
 
 Apache Callback allows web developers to natively target Apple iOS, Google
 Android, RIM BlackBerry, Microsoft Windows Phone 7, HP webOS, Nokia Symbian
 and Samsung Bada with a single codebase. The Callback APIs are based on
 open web standards. The Callback bridge technology enables access to native
 device capabilities. Utilizing the Callback bridge native plugins allow
 for any type of native access from the embedded webview.
 
 Background
 --
 
 Apache Callback is the free software evolution of the popular PhoneGap
 project.
 
 PhoneGap evolved from a hack that enabled a FFI (Foreign Function Interface)
 to an embedded WebView on iOS to a complete suite of tools for tackling
 parity across many mobile device and desktop platforms.
 
 PhoneGap has always focused on two complementary goals. Our first goal,
 is to see the web as a first class development platform. Not a sandbox
 without a filesystem but a real first class platform that includes access
 to the local system apis, sensors and data, in addition to first class
 tooling such as system debuggers. The second goal of PhoneGap  is for
 the project to cease to exist. This is not a nihilistic sentiment, rather
 we at the PhoneGap project are providing a reference implementation for
 web browsers to assist and guide the standardization process of browser APIs.
 
 The name and trademark of PhoneGap will become the commercial entity for
 the project. The source, code, documentation and related assets will all
 be contributed to the Apache Foundation as Callback.
 
 The Callback name comes from the event of the same name that is fired
 when the FFI bridge is established.
 
 Rationale
 -
 
 The dominate window to the web is quickly becoming devices, mostly phones.
 The manufacturers of devices, creators of mobile operating systems, and
 authors of web browsers are consolidating. (In many cases these are all
 already the same company.) Those stakeholders may see a future for the
 web but their bottom line is not necessarily motivated to participate in
 an open web. It is especially clear that while many of these platforms
 have been seeing some level of strategic neglect in favor of enhanced
 experiences at the price locking developers into their respective
 platforms. The Callback project exists to bring the focus back to an
 open and accessible web.
 
 Initial Goals
 -
 
 * License all PhoneGap source code and documentation to the Apache
  Software Foundation. (We already name the Apache license in our CLA.)
 * Setup and standardize the open governance of the Callback project.
 * Rename all assets from PhoneGap to Callback in project src, docs,
  tests and related infrastructure.
 
 Current Status
 --
 
 Callback is a mature software project recently shipping 1.0 on July 29, 2011.
 
 Meritocracy
 ---
 
 Callback has always been a project driven by merit and, in a sense, our
 solution is brute force requiring many collaborating developers to
 solve our goals.
 
 It would be far easier, and perhaps more correct, for the Callback
 project to port a single web browser codebase, and API bindings, across
 platforms but our executable size would be appreciably larger, unacceptably
 so for mobile, and our target abstraction would be only tertiary to
 maintaining a codebase of that size. By relying on the platform browser,
 exposed by the platform SDK, we get a quick win to the browser and only
 have to focus on our bridge. This means the project requires developers
 with proficiency on each platform: collaboration is a natural side effect.
 
 Community
 -
 
 The community surrounding Callback is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
 and with all levels of proficiency in 

Re: [VOTE] release deltacloud 0.4.1, rc1

2011-10-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just uploaded the first release candidate for Deltacloud 0.4.1. The rc is
 available from http://people.apache.org/~lutter/deltacloud/0.4.1/rc1/

 Please vote on the release candidate by Saturday, 2011-10-07 15:00 PDT

 KEYS: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/deltacloud/KEYS
 svn tag: 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/deltacloud/tags/release-0.4.1-rc1

 This release is mostly a bug fix release. It also adds support for the Google 
 Storage API.

 Detailed list of changes:

  * change how dependencies are managed: canonical deps are now in the
    gemspecs

 Server:
  * clarify how user_data injection should work; make sure all drivers
    accept base64 encoded data and make the decoded version available to
    instance
  * fix URL generation so that server works when run behind a reverse proxy
  * init script: honor defaults from sysconfig file
  * init script: fix 'status', properly background deltacloudd
  * deltacloudd: support verbose option
  * Drivers:
    + Condor
      - use UUIDTools instead of UUID to simplify deps
    + Google
      - new driver for Google storage API
    + RHEV-M
      - treat status as case-insensitive
      - inject data through a virtual floppy rather than modifying
        the instance storage directly
    + vSphere
      - report minimum of max memory across all hosts in a data center, so
        that instances can be placed on any host
      - user_data is placed in file 'deltacloud-user-data.txt'

 Client:
  * fix parsing of enums in HWP properties
  * fix handling of float value for number of vCPU in HWP


 I will update the website and docs to reflect those changes in time for
 the official release.

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Re: [VOTE] accept DirectMemory as new Apache Incubator podling

2011-10-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 benefits for both the ASF and
 the project in adopting the brand to better reach the community

 = Documentation =
  1. [[https://github.com/raffaeleguidi/DirectMemory|The original
 DirectMemory HomePage]]
  2. [[https://github.com/raffaeleguidi/DirectMemory/wiki|The original
 DirectMemory Wiki]]
  3. [[https://github.com/raffaeleguidi/DirectMemory/issues|The
 DirectMemory Issue Tracker (used also for enhancements, feature
 requests and discussion)]]

 = Initial Source =
 The intial source comprises code developed on
 [[https://github.com/raffaeleguidi/DirectMemory/|GitHub]] contributed
 under Grant from Raffaele P. Guidi for Directmemory.

 = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
 Source code will be moved from
 [[https://github.com/raffaeleguidi/DirectMemory/|GitHub]] space inside
 the SVN space of the podling.

 = External Dependencies =
  * Google Guava collections -
 http://code.google.com/p/guava-libraries/ - Apache License V2.0
  * Protostuff - http://code.google.com/p/protostuff/ - Apache License V2.0
  * JoSQL - http://josql.sourceforge.net/ - Apache License V2.0
  * AspectJ - http://www.eclipse.org/org/ - Eclipse Public License
 (Category B, used only in binary form)
  * SLF4J - http://www.slf4j.org/ - MIT License (Category A)
  * Logback - http://logback.qos.ch/ - dual licensed under EPL v1.0 and
 LGPL 2.1 (Category B, but not really a dependency as it is astracted
 by the SLF4j facade)
 '''Build/Test time dependencies'''
  * Maven - http://maven.apache.org/ - Apache License V2.0
  * JUnit - http://www.junit.org/ - CPL License v1.0 - (Category B,
 used only in binary form)
  * JUnit Benchmarks -
 http://labs.carrotsearch.com/junit-benchmarks.html - Apache License
 V2.0

 = Cryptography =
 The project does not handle cryptography in any way.

 = Required Resources =
  * Mailing lists
  * directmemory-private (with moderated subscriptions)
  * directmemory-dev
  * directmemory-user
  * directmemory-commits
  * Subversion directory
  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/directmemory
  * Website
  * Wiki (!DirectMemory)
  * Issue Tracking
  * JIRA (!DirectMemory)

 = Initial Committers =
 Names of initial committers - in alphabetical order - with current ASF 
 status:

  * Christian Grobmeier grobmeier at apache dot org (ASF Member)
  * Ioannis Canellos iocanel at apache dor org (ASF Committer)
  * Maurizio Cucchiara mcucchiara at apache dot org (ASF Committer)
  * Olivier Lamy olamy at apache dot org (ASF Member)
  * Raffaele P. Guidi raffaele dot p dot guidi at gmail dot com (ICLA 
 Signed)
  * Simone Gianni simoneg at apache dot org (ASF Member)
  * Simone Tripodi simonetripodi at apache dot org (ASF Member)
  * Tommaso Teofili tommaso at apache dot org (ASF Member)

 = Sponsors =
 == Champion ==
  * Christian Grobmeier grobmeier at apache dot org

 == Nominated Mentors ==
  * Anthony Elder antelder at apache dor org
  * Christian Grobmeier grobmeier at apache dot org
  * Olivier Lamy olamy at apache dot org
  * Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache dot org
  * Tim Williams twilliams at apache dot org

 == Sponsoring Entity ==
  * The Apache Incubator

 = Other interested people (in alphabetical order) =
  * TBD

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Re: new accounts

2011-09-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
https://id.apache.org/acreq/ - yes.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apologies to all, but my memory is leaky and my google skills faulty.

 I've got a podling's worth of accounts to create. Do I use the
 'member' link on the new submission form for this purpose?

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Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Folks,

A bit of back story of a slightly similar situation before. We have
had Axis/Axis2 projects in Apache for a long time and along came the
XFire proposal (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CeltiXfireProposal)
and we had the same kind of discussions as i see here.

Flash forward, Both Axis2 and CXF are flourishing, there are folks who
are working on components that get used by both projects like
XmlSchema and WSS4J.

So my 2 cents, take a deep breath and think of ways to collaborate
even if it means 2 code bases with some common code, it does not have
to be one code base for one situation/scenario. Do reach out to each
other, hang out on each others mailing lists to make that
collaboration happen.

thanks,
dims

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Billie J Rinaldi
 billie.j.rina...@ugov.gov wrote:
 On Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:34:20 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote:

 I agree w/ Doug that 'unlikely to' is not a correct characterization.

 Would the following alteration be more accurate?
 It may be possible to incorporate the desired features of Accumulo into 
 HBase.  However, the amount of work required at the current time would slow 
 development of HBase and Accumulo considerably.


 From my perspective, that is more the case though your second sentence
 above comes across as a setup for our not integrating.


 But rumor has it though that the differences while small looking when
 described in a short incubator proposal, in implementation, the code
 is very different making an integration project, unfortunately, a
 piece of work.

 Yes, the implementation is very different, and we had difficulty capturing 
 that in the proposal.


 Understood.


 hbase TRUNK coprocessors seem to be a more generic Iterator facility

 Some types of functions (e.g. query-time aggregation) can be implemented in 
 both coprocessors and iterators, but coprocessors will not easily support 
 the entirety of iterator functionality.  Nor is the reverse true.  The two 
 models present different programming mechanisms for server-side processing.  
 It would be useful to have both in the same project.


 I'll take your word for it not having seen the code.

 St.Ack

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Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Sounds great!

-- dims

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Billie J Rinaldi
billie.j.rina...@ugov.gov wrote:
 On Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:14:26 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote:
 From my perspective, that is more the case though your second sentence
 above comes across as a setup for our not integrating.

 How about this?
 It may be possible to incorporate the desired features of Accumulo into 
 HBase.  However, the amount of work required would slow development of HBase 
 and Accumulo considerably.  We believe this warrants a podling for Accumulo 
 at the current time.  We expect active cross-pollination will occur between 
 HBase and podling Accumulo and it is possible that the codebases and projects 
 will ultimately converge.

 Billie

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (binding)

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
 On 6/10/2011 11:02 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:

 Please cast your votes:

 [  ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

 +1 [binding]

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Simon,

Anyone interested can VOTE. If u see some of the votes they have
(binding) in the text, those are from folks on the incubator pmc.
Ultimately if we see a whole bunch of -1's then we check which way the
pmc voted to decide if the proposal was accepted or not.

So please go ahead and vote to register your view.

-- dims

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 For us outsiders, can you explain who is allowed to vote and in what way,
 please?

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
binding is used by members of the incubator pmc [1]
-- dims

[1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry for ignorance but what does binding - non-binding mean?

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Re: Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Counters typically check the names against the pmc roster, so it's ok

-- dims

On 06/10/2011 01:38 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 Yes, me too.
 
 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I forgot to add (binding) to my +1, but I don't think I'm alone.

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
 wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
 On 6/10/2011 12:04 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

 (Officially I'm on the incubator PMC I believe but I have not been active 
 ..
 so lets chalk this up for non-binding.)

 Then you just cast a binding vote.  Feel free to change it, or withdraw it,
 but the committee roster determines which binds.  Not active ... in the past
 week? month? year? ever?  That simply does not matter and vote counters 
 don't
 apply such a metric :)

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Re: Corporate Contribution [Blondie's Parallel Lines...]

2011-06-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Steve,

In the interest of completeness, please point out that folks from IBM
did join and work on Axis2 which was a complete rewrite from scratch,
got that integrated into other Apache projects like Geronimo.

thanks,
dims

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Steve Loughran ste...@apache.org wrote:
 On 06/03/2011 03:58 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM,robert_w...@us.ibm.com  wrote:


 Corporate assignments are notorious at the ASF for disappearing
 communities.  Sometimes, there is momentum to keep going, often
 times there is not.  Communities are based on individuals.

 And individuals are often employed by corporations, and are their jobs
 sometimes entail contributing to open source communities.  I think we all
 understand how this works.

 But do you have any hard numbers, for example, showing a higher
 abandonment rate for projects with more corporate assignments?  That
 would
 be an interesting correlation to show.  Of course, we must also consider
 the projects that never came into existence at all, for lack of corporate
 sponsorship.  That number is harder to estimate.

 I can confirm that is is a common enough phenomenon to warrant
 highlighting in the standard template:


 http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-reliance-on-salaried-developers

 And just because corporate withdrawals are notorious does not mean they
 are common, or that they are the greatest risk we should consider.  The
 Boston Strangler and Jack the Ripper were also notorious, but you have a
 great risk of death falling down stairs.


 The issue with corporate reassignments is that everyone just vanishes.
 They get reassigned, and go away. In OSS, individuals tend to drift off, go
 onto what else interests them, or whatever. The turnover/year may be the
 same, but the way the turnover happens is different.

 to make things worse, because the paid FTEs tend to work full time on the
 projects, they understand the code well, gain committers status through
 their contributions, and so when they go, a big chunk of the active
 knowledge goes along with their departure

 Examples
  Axis 1.x: IBM staffers all vanish.
  Harmony: IBM FTEs all vanish.

 I don't think we need any more, given that these show that IBM has a track
 record of doing this. Maybe not your bit of the company, but we outsiders
 can't tell that


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
fwiw, Bob Sutor is not a committer or on the incubator PMC or a member
of the ASF [1]. Here's the list of folks on the incubator PMC who will
vote on the proposal [2]

[1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html
[2] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:17, Florian Effenberger
 flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 18.06:

 The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it
   crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to force
   The Apache Foundation to take the project.
 

 How?

 I am *not* saying you would be influenced or forced - I'd never doubt that
 you are deciding independent. However, what people may give the feeling that
 something's wrong are statements like these:

 http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/06/some-remarks-on-openoffice-going-to-apache/comment-page-1/#comment-5309

 it is a done deal

 That might create wrong impressions...

 I'll repeat what Jim said: how do you think IBM can force us to take
 the project? Bob can say whatever he'd like on his blog.

 The software grant is a done deal. I happen to believe the proposal
 will be accepted, but it is not a done deal.

 In any case... stop assuming that what *one* person says is
 representative of the entire (ASF) community. That simply isn't true.

 Cheers,
 -g

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Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
If IBM pulls a harmony, TDF can just use the Apache licensed code that's 
available and run with it. Here the problem
currently is how to make things work if/when the podling gets accepted and 
folks start contributing, stick around for a
long time with lots of good contributions from multiple sources.

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06529.html

-- dims

On 06/05/2011 08:32 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
 Attempting to guess IBM strategy around this ...
 
 IMO the reason this whole thing is happening is because with TDF there no
 longer was a place that downstream proprietary aggregators of OO like IBM
 could use to build a closed-source solution (no org to do a dual license
 with). The Apache license is (one of) the best options for that and
 certainly the Apache brand doesn't hurt towards building a credible
 alternative to MS Office.
 
 To that extent it wouldn't surprise me at all to see IBM donating whatever
 their proprietary add-ons from their Lotus product to this project and
 thereby taking a larger role.
 
 My concern from the ASF's point of view is that how do we protect from IBM
 doing a Harmony on this? I guess one advantage is that there's nothing
 else out there and an office work toolset is a necessary feature for many
 vendors ... so there's relatively little risk of a TCK or an OpenJDK type
 alternative happening. If MSFT decides to open up office (not likely) or
 Google decides to open source their corresponding apps bits (again, not
 likely at least until OO has a credible Web offering) something could happen
 but those are far fetched at this point.
 
 After all that, TDF has unfortunately been left holding the wrong end of the
 stick :(. If I was in TDF I'd definitely feel screwed by Oracle .. but
 really this is not just Oracle but rather the larger value-add community
 around OO saying lets get together. That is not possible without the Apache
 license as those guys all want to make proprietary products. ASF is not the
 bad guy but rather the one who has all the features to host this project as
 a result. To that extent those value-add types are using ASF but that's
 not necessarily a bad way for this project to get started. Whether it
 succeeds long term is a function of it becoming a true ASF project with a
 multitude of disparate contributors etc..
 
 The people who will only contribute to a copyleft license (and I know a few
 OO contributors like that) will not come over this world .. so to that
 extent this is a community fork and we cannot do brand sharing as that'll
 confuse end-users.
 
 Sanjiva.
 
 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:29 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote on 06/05/2011 04:22:35 PM:


 Sounds great, but so far I count only 2 committers on the
 project associated with IBM.  IMO you're off by a factor
 or so, so claims that IBM intends to take this project
 seriously will be discounted by me until that is rectified.


 Joe, it will be my pleasure to astonish you.  But it will take a few more
 days ;-)

 It is amazing how much paperwork is involved, at a large corporation, to
 enable such things.

 -Rob

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Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Simon,

As a Incubator PMC member, I'd like to hear what the TDF folks think about this 
suggested path. In the end the people
who do the day-to-day work will end up collaborating or not...But, here's my +1 
that implies that i'd like folks who are
signing on to this podling do their best to make this happen.

-- dims

On 06/03/2011 06:26 PM, dsh wrote:
 +1 (I like the positive tone that tries to omit words having a
 negative connotation)
 
 Cheers
 Daniel
 
 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 I suggest:

 The LibreOffice project is an important partner in the OpenOffice.org
 community, with an established potentially highly complementary focus on the
 GNU/Linux community as well as on Windows and Mac consumer end-users. We
 will seek to build a constructive working and technical relationship so that
 the source code developed at Apache can be readily used downstream by
 LibreOffice, as well as exploring ways for upstream contributions to be
 received as much as possible within the constraints imposed by mutual
 licensing choices.

 There will be other ways we may be able to collaborate, including jointly
 sponsored public events, interoperability 'plugfests', standards, shared
 build management infrastructure, shared release mirrors, coordination of
 build schedules, version numbers, defect lists, and other downstream
 requirements. We will make this relationship a priority early in the life of
 the podlet.

 S.

 
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Re: Volunteering for the Apache OpenOffice podling?

2011-06-02 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Philip,

please check here - http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html

I don't think i see your name there

-- dims

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Phillip Rhodes
motley.crue@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmmm... I was never a committer, somebody else applied that patch... but I
 was asked to fax in a CLA.  Not sure if that helps or not.  :-)

 Phil

 On Jun 2, 2011 8:25 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Phillip Rhodes
 motley.crue@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 
  Under the list of proposed committers, yes.
  --
 
  Awesome. I should already have a CLA on file, from when I made a
  contribution to Roller Weblogger a few years back.  That was, however,
 some
  time ago.  Is there a way to confirm that my CLA info is on file and
 good to
  go?

 Look here:

 http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html

 
  Thanks,
 
  Phil

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Flume for the Apache Incubator

2011-05-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 integration with projects such as Apache Hive,
 data stores such as Apache HBase, Apache Cassandra and Voldemort, and
 several Apache Lucene-related projects.

 == An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==

 We would like Flume to become an Apache project to further foster a healthy
 community of contributors and consumers around the project.  Since Flume
 directly interacts with many Apache Hadoop-related projects by solves an
 important problem of many Hadoop users, residing in the the Apache Software
 Foundation will increase interaction with the larger community.

 = Documentation =

  * All Flume documentation (User Guide, Developer Guide, Cookbook, and
 Windows Guide) is maintained within Flume sources and can be built directly.
  * Cloudera provides documentation specific to its distribution of Flume at:
 http://archive.cloudera.com/cdh/3/flume/
  * Flume wiki at GitHub: https://github.com/cloudera/flume/wiki
  * Flume jira at Cloudera: https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/flume

 = Initial Source =

  * https://github.com/cloudera/flume/tree/

 == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==

  * The initial source is already licensed under the Apache License, Version
 2.0. https://github.com/cloudera/flume/blob/master/LICENSE

 == External Dependencies ==

 The required external dependencies are all Apache License or compatible
 licenses. Following components with non-Apache licenses are enumerated:

  * org.arabidopsis.ahocorasick : BSD-style

 Non-Apache build tools that are used by Flume are as follows:

  * AsciiDoc: GNU GPLv2
  * FindBugs: GNU LGPL
  * Cobertura: GNU GPLv2
  * PMD : BSD-style

 == Cryptography ==

 Flume uses standard APIs and tools for SSH and SSL communication where
 necessary.

 = Required  Resources =

 == Mailing lists ==

  * flume-private (with moderated subscriptions)
  * flume-dev
  * flume-commits
  * flume-user

 == Subversion Directory ==

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flume

 == Issue Tracking ==

 JIRA Flume (FLUME)

 == Other Resources ==

 The existing code already has unit and integration tests so we would like a
 Hudson instance to run them whenever a new patch is submitted. This can be
 added after project creation.

 = Initial Committers =

  * Andrew Bayer (abayer at cloudera dot com)
  * Jonathan Hsieh (jon at cloudera dot com)
  * Aaron Kimball (akimball83 at gmail dot com)
  * Bruce Mitchener (bruce.mitchener at gmail dot com)
  * Arvind Prabhakar (arvind at cloudera dot com)
  * Ahmed Radwan (ahmed at cloudera dot com)
  * Henry Robinson (henry at cloudera dot com)
  * Eric Sammer (esammer at cloudera dot com)

 = Affiliations =

  * Andrew Bayer, Cloudera
  * Jonathan Hsieh, Cloudera
  * Aaron Kimball, Odiago
  * Bruce Mitchener, Independent
  * Arvind Prabhakar, Cloudera
  * Ahmed Radwan, Cloudera
  * Henry Robinson, Cloudera
  * Eric Sammer, Cloudera


 = Sponsors =

 == Champion ==

  * Nigel Daley

 == Nominated Mentors ==

  * Tom White
  * Nigel Daley

 == Sponsoring Entity ==

  * Apache Incubator PMC


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Re: [Proposal]: Libcloud to become a TLP

2011-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
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Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.1.3-incubating (RC1)

2011-04-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me (binding)

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday, April 21, 2011, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The Wink community has completed a vote on it's 1.1.3 release
 (1.1.3-incubating) and  is now looking for IPMC approval to publish
 the release.

 Please review and vote on RC1 of the Wink 1.1.3-incubating release.

 The distribution artifacts, RAT reports, and Maven staging repository
 are available for review at:

 http://people.apache.org/~lresende/wink/wink-1.1.3-incubating/

 The release tag is at:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-1.1.3-incubating-RC1/

 Vote thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wink-dev@incubator.apache.org/msg04040.html


 Anyone else available to review this release ? We need one more IPMC


 Ping ? We still need one more binding vote.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Rave into the Incubator

2011-02-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Arje Cahn a.c...@hippo.nl wrote:

 [X] +1 Accept Rave into the incubator



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Re: [libcloud] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

2011-01-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me (binding)

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 Poke to general@ people, we need more IPMC votes for this release to happen :(

 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Jerry Chen je...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 With 6x +1 votes (including 2 binding), and no -1 votes, the vote seeks the 
 approval of the IPMC.

 Thanks,
 Jerry

 On Jan 8, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Jerry Chen wrote:

 Hi all,

 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.4.2 are available at:
 http://people.apache.org/~jerry/libcloud-0.4.2/

 Please test and place your votes:

 +/- 1
 [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.2

 Vote closes on Sunday January 9, 2011 at 10pm PST.

 This release includes the EC2NodeLocations fix to restore backward 
 compatibility in the EC2 driver, as well as new drivers, improvements to 
 deployment capabilities, and libcloud.security module for SSL certificate 
 verification.

 For more information on SSL verification:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LibcloudSSL

 For the full list of changes, see:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/libcloud/tags/0.4.2/CHANGES

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator

2010-11-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

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On 11/30/2010 03:10 AM, Christopher Brind wrote:
 +1 (non-binding)
 
 On 30 November 2010 06:52, Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,

 Please vote on the acceptance of Wave into the Apache incubator.

 The proposal is available at:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal
 (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)

 The earlier discussion thread can be found at:

 http://apache.markmail.org/message/3ebtccdxvipp2732?q=general%40incubator.apache.org+list:org.apache.incubator.general+order:date-backwardpage=2

 The vote options:

 [ ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation
 [ ] +0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:

 The vote is open for 72 hours.

 Thanks,
 -Dan

 Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator)

 = Abstract =

 Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at Apache.
 Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which
 is
 a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and
 provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of
 the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems
 (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances).

 = Proposal =

 A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication.
 It can be used like email, chat, or a document.

 WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail
 server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level components:
 the client and the server. They have the following major functionality
 (though this is not an exhaustive list):

  * Client
  *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves. Users
 can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser.
  * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI --
 exposing the Wave Gadgets API (
 http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html)
  * A console client that can create and edit waves via a command-line-like
 interface.
  * Server
  * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage mechanism. The
 administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative storage
 mechanisms.
  * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to.
  * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems.
  * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate with
 each other using the Wave Federation Protocol (
 http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation).
  * Robots, using the Wave Robots API, (
 http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact with
 waves
 on a WIAB instance.

 = Background =

 Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations. This
 was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's use of
 many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email,
 chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc.

 The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and
 collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an open
 and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able to
 bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like
 SMTP).

 We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of
 Wave
 with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box.

 = Rationale =

 Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by
 Google.
 Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there is a
 lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and building
 upon the technology for new products.

 We are confident that with the community-centric development environment
 fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive.

 = Initial Goals =

 The initial goals of the project are:

  1.  To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the
 project
 with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site, etc).
  1.  To quickly reach a state where it is possible to continue the
 development of the Wave In a Box implementation under the ASF project.
  1.  To add new committers to the project and grow the community in The
 Apache Way.

 = Current Status =

 The open source Wave in a Box project has existed in various forms for
 approximately 16 months (starting out life as the FedOne open source
 project).

 FedOne began in July 2009 in order to accelerate adoption of the wave
 federation protocol, and serve as a proof of concept that a non-Google
 implementation of the wave federation protocol could interoperate with the
 Google production instance. It worked. FedOne's existence lead to a
 prototype by Novell that demonstrated federation between Google Wave and
 Novell Pulse (now known as Vibe). In addition, in May of 2010, SAP unveiled
 a prototype version of SAP StreamWork that federated with both Novell Pulse
 and Google Wave. All three systems interoperated, sharing real-time 

Re: [VOTE] Aries Graduation to TLP

2010-11-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:51, Jeremy Hughes hugh...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi IPMCers and Incubator community,

 The Aries community has been discussing graduation and we feel we are
 ready to graduate to a new TLP [1]. We subsequently voted [2]. As a
 commnunity we were unanimous in deciding to graduate to a new TLP. We
 voted [3] on putting forward the resolution below for the next Board
 meeting to promote Aries to an Apache TLP and graduate from the
 Incubator. As per the graduation guide [4], the Aries PPMC voted on
 the position of Chair. That Vote is here [5] and Result is here [6]
 (Aries PPMC list membership required).

 Please VOTE on the below resolution for promoting Aries to an Apache
 TLP and graduating from the Incubator. The VOTE is open for 72 hours.

 [ ] +1 Accept Aries' graduation from the Incubator
 [ ] +0 Don't care.
 [ ] -1 Don't accept Aries' graduation from the Incubator because ...


 ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling

   X. Establish the Apache Aries Project

      WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
      interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
      Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
      Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
      open-source software related to a set of pluggable Java
      components enabling an enterprise OSGi application programming
      model for deployment to a variety of OSGi based runtimes, for
      distribution at no charge to the public.

      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
      Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Aries Project,
      be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
      Foundation; and be it further

      RESOLVED, that the Apache Aries Project be and hereby is
      responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
      related to a set of pluggable Java components enabling an
      enterprise OSGi application programming model for deployment to
      a variety of OSGi based runtimes;
      and be it further

      RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Aries be
      and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
      serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
      of the Apache Aries Project, and to have primary responsibility
      for management of the projects within the scope of
      responsibility of the Apache Aries Project; and be it further

      RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
      hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
      Apache Aries Project:

        * A. J. David Bosschaert    dav...@apache.org
        * Adam Wojtuniak    awojtun...@apache.org
        * Alan Cabrera    a...@apache.org
        * Alan T Keane    a...@apache.org
        * Alasdair Nottingham    n...@apache.org
        * Andrew Osborne    o...@apache.org
        * Bartosz Kowalewski    bko...@apache.org
        * Bertrand Delacretaz    bdelacre...@apache.org
        * Carsten Ziegeler    cziege...@apache.org
        * Chris Wilkinson    cwil...@apache.org
        * Davanum Srinivas    d...@apache.org
        * David Jencks    djen...@apache.org
        * Emily Jiang    eji...@apache.org
        * Eoghan Glynn    egl...@apache.org
        * Graham Charters    g...@apache.org
        * Guillaume Nodet    gno...@apache.org
        * Hiram R. Chirino    chir...@apache.org
        * Holly Cummins    cummi...@apache.org
        * Ian Robinson    irob...@apache.org
        * J. Daniel Kulp    dk...@apache.org
        * James Strachan    jstrac...@apache.org
        * Jarek Gawor    ga...@apache.org
        * Jean Sebastien Delfino    jsdelf...@apache.org
        * Jeremy Hughes    hugh...@apache.org
        * Joseph Alan Bohn    jb...@apache.org
        * Kevan Lee Miller    ke...@apache.org
        * Kiril Malenkov Mitov    kmi...@apache.org
        * Lei Wang    rwo...@apache.org
        * Lin Sun    lin...@apache.org
        * Mark Nuttall    mnutt...@apache.org
        * Niklas Gustavsson    n...@apache.org
        * Nikolai Dimitrov Tankov    nikol...@apache.org
        * Par Niclas Hedhman    nic...@apache.org
        * Richard McGuire    rickmcgu...@apache.org
        * Sabine Heider    heider...@apache.org
        * Sergey Beryozkin    serg...@apache.org
        * Stuart McCulloch    mccu...@apache.org
        * Timothy James Ward    timothyjw...@apache.org
        * Valentin Mahrwald    mahrw...@apache.org
        * Violeta Georgieva Georgieva    violet...@apache.org
        * Zhaohui Feng    rf...@apache.org
        * Zoe Slattery    z...@apache.org


      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jeremy
      Hughes be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Aries,
      to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
      Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stanbol for incubation

2010-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
://github.com/ogrisel and
 http://bitbucket.org/ogrisel
  * Ozgur Kilic (ozgur AT srdc DOT com DOT tr) - SRDC
  * Rupert Westenthaler (rupert DOT westenthaler AT gmail DOT com) -
 Salzburg Research
  * Sebastian Germesin (sebastian DOT germesin AT dfki DOT de) - DFKI
  * Stefane Fermigier (sf AT fermigier DOT com) - Nuxeo SA
  * Szabolcs Grunwald (szaby DOT gruenwald AT salzburgresearch DOT at)
 - Salzburg Research
  * Tilman Becker (becker AT dfki DOT de) - DFKI
  * Valentina Presutti (valentina DOT presutti AT cnr DOT it) - CNR
  * Walter Kasper (kasper AT dfki DOT de) - DFKI - OpenLogos project
 lead, http://openlogos-mt.sourceforge.net/
  * Wernher Behrendt (wernher DOT behrendt AT gmail DOT com) - Salzburg 
 Research
  * Wolfgang Maass (wolfgang DOT maass AT unisg DOT de) - University of
 St. Gallen


 The following initial committers are not members of the IKS consortium:
  * Andreas Kuckartz (a DOT kuckartz AT ping DOT de)
  * Ard Schrijvers (ard AT apache DOT org)
  * Tommaso Teofili (tommaso AT apache DOT org)

 == Sponsors ==

 === Champion ===
   * Bertrand Delacretaz (bdelacretaz AT apache DOT org)

 === Nominated Mentors ===
   * Ted Dunning (tdunning AT apache DOT org)
   * Ross Gardler (rgardler AT apache DOT org)
   * Upayavira (upayavira AT apache DOT org)
   * Isabel Drost (isabel AT apache DOT org)

 === Sponsoring Entity ===
 Apache Incubator.

 == Appendix A: list of dependencies ==
 Here's the list of Maven groupIds of the current Stanbol dependencies,
 omitting org.apache.* and commons-* groupIds but including transitive
 dependencies.

 {{{
 asm
 com.aetrion.flickr
 com.beetstra.jutf7
 com.drewnoakes
 com.googlecode.json-simple
 com.hp.hpl.jena
 com.ibm.icu
 com.sun.jersey
 com.sun.xml.bind
 dom4j
 edu.smu.tspell
 eu.iksproject
 hermit
 info.aduna.commons
 it.unimi.dsi.fastutil.chars
 javax.activation
 javax.mail
 javax.servlet
 javax.ws.rs
 javax.xml
 javax.xml.bind
 javax.xml.stream
 jetty
 jtidy
 junit
 local.jrdf
 log4j
 mysql
 net.fortuna.ical4j
 net.fortuna.mstor
 net.sf.jacob-project
 net.sf.kxml
 net.sourceforge
 net.sourceforge.juniversalchardet
 org.antlr
 org.bibsonomy
 org.bouncycastle
 org.clojars.thnetos
 org.codehaus.castor
 org.codehaus.jackson
 org.codehaus.jettison
 org.codehaus.woodstox
 org.freemarker
 org.hsqldb
 org.htmlparser
 org.jaudiotagger
 org.jdom
 org.json
 org.mockito
 org.mortbay.jetty
 org.nsdl.mptstore
 org.openrdf.sesame
 org.ops4j.base
 org.ops4j.pax.exam
 org.ops4j.pax.runner
 org.osgi
 org.samba.jcifs
 org.scala-lang
 org.semanticdesktop.aperture
 org.semanticdesktop.nepomuk
 org.semanticweb.owlapi
 org.semweb4j
 org.slf4j
 org.textmining
 org.wymiwyg
 owl-link
 owlapi
 ronaldhttpclient
 stax
 trove
 xerces
 xmlpull
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Boot strapping Android projects @ Apache

2010-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Channeling my asimov...How about daneel :)

-- dims

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
 nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry Bertrand, but I can't see the relation between Droids and
 Android related set of projects either under Labs/Incubator or both ?
 Would explain please :) ?

 IIUC Bruno suggests using droids.apache.org for this new effort.

 That would collide with the Droids podling
 (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/droids.html) once it graduates,
 so the droids subdomain is already reserved IMO.

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Celix for incubation

2010-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

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On Oct 28, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Richard S. Hall he...@ungoverned.org wrote:

 +1
 
 - richard
 
 
 On 10/28/10 15:42, Marcel Offermans wrote:
 After the initial discussions about Celix have finished, we now have three 
 mentors and would like to call a vote to accept Celix into the Apache 
 Incubator.
 
 The proposal is included below and can also be found at:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CelixProposal
 
 Please cast your votes:
 
 [ ] +1 Accept Celix for incubation
 [ ] +0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
 
 Greetings, Marcel
 
 
 
 Celix
 
 = Abstract =
 Celix is a OSGi like implementation in C with a distinct focus on 
 interoperability between Java-OSGi and Celix.
 
 = Proposal =
 Celix will be an implementation of the OSGi specification adapted to C. It 
 will follow the API as close as possible, but since the OSGi specification 
 is written primarily for Java, there will be differences (Java is OO, C is 
 procedural).
 An important aspect of the implementation is interoperability between 
 Java-OSGi and Celix. This interoperability is achieved by porting and 
 implementing the Remote Services specification in Celix. These Services will 
 be made available in separate bundles.
 
 = Background =
 In embedded/realtime situations software is mostly implemented in C. In 
 situations where interoperability and dynamics are important, a good 
 architecture and design principle is needed. OSGi provides such middleware 
 for Java based systems.
 To be able to have such dynamic environment implemented in C, a OSGi like 
 implementation is needed. Besides a dynamic environment, OSGi also makes it 
 easier to reuse parts of the system, reducing time needed to implement and 
 maintain software.
 The implementation started with the basics to make it possible to load 
 libraries dynamically, and steadily grown towards an implementation where 
 large parts of the OSGi framework API is implemented.
 The implementation of Celix is heavily based on Apache Felix (where 
 appropriate it is even a direct port of the Apache Felix code (Java) to C).
 Since distributed systems are used more and more in services based 
 environments, a scalable and transparent solution is needed for remote 
 communication. The OSGi specification describes remote services, this 
 specification will be a part of the first release.
 Remote services also make it possible to communicate between Java-OSGi and 
 Celix. To achieve this interoperability, both Java and C implementations of 
 remote services for a common protocol are needed. For local services JNI can 
 be used, for remote services SOAP and/or REST can be used. In the latter 
 case, Apache CXF can be used to implement the Remote Services API in Java.
 
 = Rationale =
 In embedded/realtime/distributed environments there is a need to be able to 
 create dynamic and maintainable software. Currently there are no off the 
 shelf middleware/frameworks for this. Celix tries to provide such a 
 framework.
 The choice to base the implementation on the OSGi specification makes it 
 possible for a developer to use Celix as well as Java OSGi implementation 
 without much differences and without a steep learning curve.
 The community and user driven platform created by Apache provides a great 
 base for middleware such as Celix. Also the fact that Celix is based on 
 Apache Felix, and Apache Felix is hosted by Apache, makes it a logical 
 choice to have Apache as home for this project.
 
 = Initial Goals =
 * Provide a basic implementation of the OSGi Framework API
 * Provide an implementation of Remote Services to be able to create 
 distributed systems (and Celix-  OSGi interoperability).
 * Build/Expand a community using/developing Celix
 * OSGi like implementation in C
 * Provide a module/component based software solution for embedded 
 Platforms
   o Real-Time software
   o Distributed systems
   o Provide Services based solution
 * Investigate if Apache Portable Runtime can be used for platform 
 abstraction
 
 = Current Status =
 == Meritocracy ==
 Celix was created by Alexander Broekhuis. While he is no active 
 committer/participant of Apache projects, he has used Open Source and is 
 well known with it and how a meritocracy works. Currently there are several 
 other possible committers.
 To be able to create and maintain complex middleware (such as Celix) a good 
 structure is needed. A meritocracy following the rules and traditions of the 
 ASF is a good choice for Celix.
 
 == Community ==
 Currently the Celix community exists out of the core developers, and the 
 users integration Celix in an end-user product (all from Thales).
 
 == Core Developers ==
 * Alexander Broekhuis (Luminis)
 * Jasper Gielen (Humiq)
 * Herman ten Brugge (Thales)
 
 == Alignment ==
 Celix is heavily based on Apache Felix. Since Apache Felix is an Apache 
 project it makes sense to develop Celix 

Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Approve the release of apache-esme-incubating-1.1

2010-10-08 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 from me

On 10/07/2010 11:52 PM, Richard Hirsch wrote:

Hi all,

after more than 72 hours, this vote has started and together with
those received on the podling list [1], we have now received
sufficient IPMC binding votes to proceed with the release of ESME 1.1.

We got 3 binding IPMC +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes as listed below:

+1 Dick Hirsch
+1 Daniel Kulp
+1 Bertrand Delacretaz

I'll proceed with distribution [2]. As a IPMC member, do I have access
to www.apache.org/dist? Do I just copy the material from
http://people.apache.org/~rhirsch/esme/ directly into
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/esme/ and replace the old KEYS
file with the new one?

Thanks

D.

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-esme-dev/201010.mbox/%3caanlktim_jhcbvzao6ou-dt_adicgyhsi7+pj-a+9y...@mail.gmail.com%3e

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Re: [libcloud] [VOTE] Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.0

2010-10-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote:
 Test tarballs for Apache Libcloud 0.4.0 are available at:
  http://people.apache.org/~pquerna/dev/libcloud-0.4.0/

 Please test and place your votes please;

  +/- 1
  [  ]  Release Apache Libcloud 0.4.0

 Vote closes on Monday October 11, 2010 at 10am PST.

 This is our first release of the 0.4 and trunk for a couple months, it
 includes many bug fixes, a few new features, and removal of the
 dependency on Zope.Interface.

 It is based upon this tag:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/libcloud/tags/0.4.0

 Thanks,

 Paul




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Re: [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 (binding)

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM,  matt...@matthewsacks.com wrote:
 Hi List,
 I would like to do a quick sanity check on this thread.
 Please correct me if I am wrong, but we have 2 binding PMC votes, 2 new 
 contributors (Rainer Jung and Senaka Fernando) and 1 new mentor (Kevan 
 Miller).

 I believe my facts to be accurate. I plan on updating the Wiki next week to 
 reflect this when I complete some travels, and create a fork for a Groovy 
 port to begin that work.

 Thanks,
 Matthew

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:00am
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

 +1


 Regards,
 Alan

 On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:20 AM, msacks wrote:

 At the advisement of the list, we have created a brand-new thread here
 for voting on the kitty proposal.
 The wiki page is located at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KittyProposal

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Re: Looking for a few more votes... Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me (binding)

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 So far I see 2 clear (binding) +1s for the proposal...

 Calling out for more ;)

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Matthew Sacks wrote:

 Hello, Peary Chiu and myself would like to announce the Proposal for the 
 Kitty, Production Tomcat utility. Our proposal is as follows (we have also 
 attached a PDF for convenience):

 kitty, lightweight, Production-class Java application server performance 
 diagnostic  administration utility

 Abstract

 A lightweight, production focused, Java-based application server performance 
 diagnostic and management utility

 Proposal

       • Provide a lightweight utility for managing Tomcat and Geronimo 
 application servers with powerful performance diagnostics and 
 troubleshooting abilities primarily for supporting Tomcat in production/high 
 volume use.
       • (future) Provide support for all Java application servers

 Background

 The answer is simple, there is not a lightweight, command line 
 administration utility that can be utilized across open source application 
 servers. There are many utilities which have been created such as jmxsh, but 
 they do not solve the problem of having a lightweight administration / 
 debugging client for troubleshooting these open source application servers 
 such as Apache Tomcat and Geronimo.

 Rationale

 There needs to be a lightweight, administration client that targets 
 production use based on the experience of those administering Tomcat (and 
 other open source Java application servers) in high-volume, large scale 
 production environments. Such an administration tool will help further these 
 open source application servers in production, large-installation grade 
 implementations and better support such “industrial-grade” use.

 Initial Goals

 kitty is an existing open source project, with two contributors. We would 
 bring in more folks with experience in managing high-volume production Web 
 sites to contribute to the architecture of the kitty project. Currently we 
 have two committers both with high-volume, production Web experience. We’d 
 also leverage feedback from the community in this context and integrate that 
 into the utility to provide a truly powerful management and performance 
 diagnostic utility for Tomcat/Geronimo and other Java application servers.

 We will add common diagnostic hooks into the application as a first step, 
 for example, show available memory, threading problems, JDBC, and Web 
 application diagnostic hooks.

 The application will run in script mode (future) for automation purposes, or 
 interactive mode, so it can be used for ad-hoc troubleshooting.

 Supported Platforms
       • Apache Tomcat 6.0+

 Future Support

       • Apache Geronimo
       • All other Java application servers

 Known Risks

 Currently the application is coded in Jython. Jython makes a suitable fit 
 for many command-line administration tools. We plan on creating a pure, 
 Groovy-based port of kitty in the next few weeks, primarily for ease of 
 compilation to Java classes.

 We understand that developing this in Jython makes it faster to develop the 
 utility, but increases it’s complexity for compilation. We are in the 
 process of converting the project to Groovy to address this issue, within 
 two weeks from the date of this proposal.

 Initial Source
 http://github.com/msacks/kitty

 External Dependencies

 Jython 2.5.1

 Documentation

 - README (Documentation) http://github.com/msacks/kitty/blob/master/README
 - How Kitty was Born 
 http://www.tomcatexpert.com/blog/2010/05/17/creating-custom-tools-monitoring-tomcat

 Initial Committers

 Matthew Sacks (matt...@glasscodeinc.com)
 Peary Chiu (pearyc...@gmail.com)
 Jim Jagielski (j...@jimgjag.com)
 Stuart Williams (p...@pidster.com)

 Required Resources
       • Subversion
       • Jira
       • Wiki
       • Website Space
       • Hudson

 Mailing Lists

 kitty-dev
 kitty-commits
 kitty-user

 Subversion Repository

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kitty

 Issue Tracking

 Jira; project known as ‘kitty’

 Affiliations

 Matthew Sacks (self)
 Peary Chiu (self, also employed by Edmunds Inc)
 Jim Jagielski (ASF/ VMware)
 Stuart Williams (VMware/ASF)


 Champion

 Jim Jagielski

 Sponsors: Nominated Mentors

 Jim Jagielski
 Stuart Williams
 Mark Thomas

 Sponsor

 Apache Incubator

 ASF-kitty-Tomcat-proposal.pdf




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Re: Accepting patches in a podling

2010-09-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas

David,

Yes, current practice is exactly what Benson outlined.

thanks,
dims

On 09/13/2010 08:58 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

All patches should be attached to JIRAs with the 'grant' checkbox checked.
Only if they are large do you then have to contemplate asking for a CLA and
going through the clearance process. Or so I understand it.

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:55 PM, David Lutterkortlut...@redhat.com  wrote:


What is the offical process for accepting patches from non-comitters in
a podling ? Is it enough to insist that contributors that are not
committers have a CLA on file or do I also have to make them file each
patch in jira ?

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Patricia Shanahan for committer account

2010-08-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

-- dims

On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:

 I'm very happy to see Patricia contributing so enthusiastically.
 
 +1
 
 Craig
 
 On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
 
 We are short one IPMC vote for a new River committer. She's been an
 enthusiastic contributor.
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:22 PM
 Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Patricia Shanahan for committer account
 To: river-priv...@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Peter Firmstone j...@zeus.net.au wrote:
 Patricia has showed a continued interest in Apache River, I believe that
 she'll be an asset, if we can encourage her to stick around.  I'd like to
 see her offered a commiter account.
 
 This vote passes as follows (* marks an IPMC vote):
 
   +1 Benson Margulies *
   +1 Jukka Zitting *
   +1 Peter Firmstone
   +1 Tom Hobbs
 
 Thanks for voting! We still need one more IPMC vote to ratify this
 decision. Benson promised to follow up on this with the IPMC.
 
 BR,
 
 Jukka Zitting
 
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Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

-- dims

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Now that the board has declared there are no legal
 obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to
 restart the vote.
 
 Thanks for your patience and consideration.
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:44:08 PM
 Subject: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC
 
 I have come to the realization that I'm not
 going to convince Noel to see  things my way
 any time soon, so I'd like to now ask for a
 formal majority  consensus vote on relaxed rules
 for the 3 aforementioned  projects.
 
 Specifically, for thrift, sis, and esme, I wish to
 remove  the current rule that requires 3 votes from
 IPMC members to approve a vote on  a new committer,
 effectively delegating the decision to the  PPMC.
 Additionally the pre-ack would be removed, but no
 other process  changes are anticipated.
 
 Here's my +1.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Craig,

in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the
message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the
microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of
the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other
podlings...my 2 cents.

thanks,
dims

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:

 On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
 the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
 the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
 for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
 to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.

 Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic
 expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current process for
 getting new committers into an incubating project:

 1. Identify candidates
 2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
 3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
 4. Vote on podling-private
 5. Wait for everyone's vote
 6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
 7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
 8. Invite committer
 9. Send ICLA
 10. Wait for ICLA registration
 11. Send root request for committer
 12. Wait for root to create account
 13. Update asf authorization file for new account
 14. Done

 All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where the Mentors
 are AWOL.

 That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and just need to
 see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra also needs
 to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get root to
 recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three votes in
 favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure requirement (also
 part of the details).

 Craig

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Re: [VOTE] NPanday to enter the incubator

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1

-- dims

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Craig L Russell  
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:



+1

Craig

On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Brett Porter wrote:


Hi,

We have finalised the proposal with the additional committer and it  
has now been posted for a couple of weeks, so I'd like to put it to  
a vote.


With the weekend included, I'll tally the votes after 5 days (120  
hours).


Thanks,
Brett


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Re: an experiment

2010-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Fair enough :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Craig L Russell  
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:



Hi Dims,

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:


Craig,

in my mind, it's not the number of steps that we eliminate, it's the
message that we send. Instead of saying you all are *under* the
microscope, we say that real quickly a few of you will become part of
the microscope and look in on not just yours but also other
podlings...my 2 cents.


I think your comment is in regard to Joe's other proposal that all  
committers become part of the incubator PMC. I didn't address that  
proposal here.


Craig



thanks,
dims

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:


On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:


The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.


Before we set ourselves up for disappointment based on unrealistic
expectations, this proposal is fairly modest. Here's the current  
process for

getting new committers into an incubating project:

1. Identify candidates
2. Discuss candidates on podling-private
3. Agree that candidate should be a committer
4. Vote on podling-private
5. Wait for everyone's vote
6. Inform incubator PMC of results of vote
7. Vote in incubator PMC if not all three mentors have voted
8. Invite committer
9. Send ICLA
10. Wait for ICLA registration
11. Send root request for committer
12. Wait for root to create account
13. Update asf authorization file for new account
14. Done

All this proposal does is to eliminate step 7 in the case where  
the Mentors

are AWOL.

That said, I support the idea behind this modest proposal, and  
just need to
see the details (several modifications have been proposed). Infra  
also needs
to support this proposal, as the main reason for item 7 is to get  
root to
recognize that the incubator PMC has taken official action (three  
votes in
favor of a new committer) which has been an infrastructure  
requirement (also

part of the details).

Craig

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Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process for voting in new committers (one question, would they need 
an ACK from IPMC - similar to how PMC's send a note to the board for an ACK for new pmc members)?


In the 2nd question, significant committers, are we asking mentors to identify such candidates for addition to IPMC, 
especially release managers for example? if so, +1 for that as well.


thanks,
dims

On 08/11/2010 01:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

So.  Following some advice given to me by Sam Ruby,
I'd like to start experimenting with different organizational
and procedural approaches to the projects I participate in
here.  What I want to do is to see how far I can push
the envelope on the whole notion of empowerment and
self-governance in an incubating project, following the
lessons I've learned from httpd's treatment of the subprojects
it happens to be responsible for.

The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.

The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
especially as it pertains to releases.

I welcome your comments, criticisms, and other feedback.
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Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas


On 08/11/2010 05:19 PM, Donald Woods wrote:



On 8/11/10 1:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

So.  Following some advice given to me by Sam Ruby,
I'd like to start experimenting with different organizational
and procedural approaches to the projects I participate in
here.  What I want to do is to see how far I can push
the envelope on the whole notion of empowerment and
self-governance in an incubating project, following the
lessons I've learned from httpd's treatment of the subprojects
it happens to be responsible for.

The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.


How about requiring at least one mentor on the vote, so there is still
some oversight?


Having all mentors vote is good but not necessary...IMHO



The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
especially as it pertains to releases.


Would still like this to be an opt-in, where any existing PMC member
interested in helping with the Incubator could request membership and be
added after 72 hours (expanding ASF member rules to apply to all PMC
members.)  For committers (non-PMC members), I'd want an existing IPMC
or PMC member nominate the person to the IPMC and require a 72hr lazy
consensus, since IPMC members are expected to mentor and teach new
podlings about the Apache way.


By PMC you mean PPMC? i am confused.



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Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Ant,

My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals from ppmc's who end up in ipmc would help build bridges 
between podlings and will help get lessons learned (when any ppmc has issues/problems/roadblocks) back to their ppmc. 
This is one area where i've seen people struggle, folks from different projects learning the same lessons the hard way.


I am not too worried about binding vote one podling ppmc member have over another podling's release. the binding is 
for me a legal thing (as in we need 3 binding ipmc votes for a release).


-- dims

On 08/11/2010 06:16 PM, ant elder wrote:

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Joe Schaeferjoe_schae...@yahoo.com  wrote:



The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
especially as it pertains to releases.



Without some more explanation I'm not that convinced about doing that.
The main purpose of the IPMC is to vote on the graduation of
poddlings, why should some random ASF poddling newbie get a binding
vote on the graduation of _any_ poddling?

I'm guessing the motivation for this proposal is not to give poddling
committers binding votes on other poddling graduations but to give
them binding votes on their own poddling activities, and that i agree
with. The things they need binding votes on is their committer votes,
ppmc votes (they already have that), and release votes - lets just
give them those.

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Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Joe,

Can they not +1 it either? :) seriously, it would be a bit hard to track 2 
levels of ipmc members

-- dims



On 08/11/2010 07:24 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

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To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 6:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: an experiment

Ant,

My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals
from ppmc's who end up in ipmc would help build bridges
between podlings and  will help get lessons learned (when any ppmc
has issues/problems/roadblocks)  back to their ppmc.
This is one area where i've seen people struggle, folks  from
different projects learning the same lessons the hard way.


Good point.


I am not  too worried about binding vote one podling ppmc
member have over another  podling's release. the binding is
for me a legal thing (as in we need 3  binding ipmc votes for a release).


I think ant is more concerned about graduation votes.  We
could simply write a new rule that podling committers on
the IPMC brought in through my initiative MUST ABSTAIN from
graduation votes.  I don't think the board would be the
least bit upset if we did that.




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Re: [VOTE] Deltacloud Project

2010-05-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM, David Lutterkort lut...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 after the discussion so far [1], I'd like to put Detlacloud for a vote
 for acceptance into the Apache Incubator according to the proposal[2]

 I _think_ I've added everybody who expressed interest in being a mentor
 or initial committer to the proposal - if I have forgotten anybody,
 please holler.

 Please reply to this mail with your vote.

 David

 [1] 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201005.mbox/%3c1273174879.7253.99.ca...@avon.watzmann.net%3e
 [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DeltacloudProposal




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Re: [PROPOSAL] Deltacloud Project

2010-05-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Carl,

if you need additional mentors, count me in.

thanks,
dims

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Carl Trieloff cctriel...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 05/07/2010 02:33 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:

 Hi;

 +1;


 I am happy to help  during incubation process;

 Thanks;

 --Gurkan



 Gurkan,

 Is this an offer to help mentor the project, or just help out as needed.
 Reason
 for asking is if you would like to be represented onto the proposal or just
 voicing
 support which is greatly appreciated.

 regards,
 Carl.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Deltacloud Project

2010-05-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 from me

-- dims

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com  
wrote:



+1

Craig

On May 6, 2010, at 12:41 PM, David Lutterkort wrote:


Hi,

I would like to propose the Deltacloud API[1] for addition to the  
Apache

incubator.

I have added the initial proposal to the Wiki[2]; it is also included
below for convenience.

There are a few additional people that have expressed interest in
becoming initial committers; I am waiting for their express consent  
to

list them as committers, and will add them to the Wiki as I get that.

We are looking forward to any and all feedback and/or questions on  
the

proposal. We already have two mentors, but would very much welcome
additional volunteers to help steer Deltacloud through the incubation
process.

David

[1] http://deltacloud.org/
[2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DeltacloudProposal


Deltacloud, a cross-cloud web service API
=

Abstract


Deltacloud defines a web service API for interacting with cloud  
service
providers and resources in those clouds in a unified manner. In  
addition,
it consists of a number of implementations of this API for the most  
popular

clouds.

Proposal


* Define a REST-based API for managing and manipulating cloud  
resources
  in a manner that isolates the API client as much as possible from  
the

  particulars of specific cloud API's
* Provide an open API definition for cloud providers for their IaaS
  clouds and a basis on which PaaS providers can layer their offering
* Provide image management and directory capabilities as part of  
the API

* The current implementation allows instance lifecycle management
  (create, start, stop, destroy, reboot), and querying of related
  resources like available images, instance sizes, and allowed  
instance

  actions for a number of public and private clouds
* Currently supported are Amazon EC2, Eucalyptus, Rackspace,  
RimuHosting,

  GoGrid, OpenNebula, and RHEV-M
* Future enhancements should broaden the scope of the API to include
  networking, firewalling, authentication, accounting, and image
  management

Background
--

An important issue for cloud users is that of avoiding lock-in to a
specific cloud. By providing a cross-cloud API for
infrastructure-as-a-service (IaaS) clouds, Deltacloud addresses this
concern and strives to provide the best possible API for writing
cloud-management applications that can target multiple clouds.

There are also no efforts currently to define a truly open-source  
cloud
API, one for which there is a proper upstream, independent of any  
specific

cloud provider. Deltacloud API strives to create a community around
building an open-source cloud API in a manner that fully allows for
tried-and-true open source mechanisms such as user-driven innovation.

By providing a web-service API, Deltacloud is language agnostic,  
and one of
its subordinated goals is to provide a practical vocabulary for  
talking

about IaaS cloud resources and operations on them.

Rationale
-

IaaS clouds provide numerous advantages to their users, for example,
making provisioning new servers more agile. If users directly use the
'native' cloud API's, they risk locking themselves in to the API of a
specific cloud provider.

There is therefore a strong need for an API that can be used across  
a wide
range of public and private clouds, and that can serve as the basis  
for
developing cloud management applications; in contrast to several  
existing
language-specific efforts in this direction, Deltacloud is  
conceived as a

web service.

This will allow the project to attract a broad community of users  
of the
API and cloud providers interested in offering a truly open-source  
API,

with a proper upstream community.

We strongly believe that the best way to drive such an API effort  
is by
developing the API and open-source implementations of the API side- 
by-side.


Initial Goals
-

Deltacloud is an existing open source project; initially started by  
Red
Hat, it has attracted a number of outside contributors. We look at  
moving
this project to the ASF as the next step to broaden the community,  
and put
the project on solid footing since the ASF governance model is well  
suited

for the Deltacloud project goals. The ASF is a great location for
Deltacloud to build a community and will benefit from ASL licensing.

Current Status
--

Deltacloud API is licensed under the LGPL:

* Deltacloud Website (http://deltacloud.org) There are two projects  
hosted there: the API under consideration here and the Aggregator  
(not part of this proposal, though also open source)
* Deltacloud git repository (http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=deltacloud/core.git;a=summary 
)

* Deltacloud mailing lists
  - users (https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/deltacloud- 
users)
  - developers 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Whirr for Incubation

2010-05-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 support in the cloud. Whirr will build cloud components
 for several Apache projects, such as Hadoop, HBase, !ZooKeeper,
 Cassandra, and hopefully more.

 == Known Risks ==
 === Orphaned products ===
 There is a risk that Whirr will not gain adoption. However, the
 current Hadoop scripts seem to be fairly widely used. The small number
 of initial committers is also a risk, although by starting the project
 it is expected that new contributors will quickly be attracted to the
 project and help it grow.

 === Inexperience with Open Source ===
 The initial code comes from Hadoop where it was developed in an
 open-source, collaborative way. All the initial committers are
 committers on other Apache projects, and are experienced in working
 with new contributors.

 === Homogenous Developers ===
 The initial set of committers is from a diverse set of organizations,
 and geographic locations. They are all experienced with developing in
 a distributed environment.

 === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
 It is expected that Whirr will be developed on salaried and volunteer
 time, although all of the initial developers will work on it mainly on
 salaried time.

 === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
 Whirr will depend on many other Apache Projects as already mentioned
 above (e.g. Hadoop, !ZooKeeper). If the project develops some common
 infrastructure then it is possible that it becomes a dependency on a
 project that wishes to use that infrastructure for running in the
 cloud.

 === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
 We think that Whirr will benefit from the community sharing ideas and
 best practices for running cloud services. The ASF does a great job at
 building communities, which is why we want to build Whirr at Apache.

 == Documentation ==
 Information on the current scripts and general background can be found at
  * http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/AmazonEC2
  * http://archive.cloudera.com/docs/ec2.html
  * http://hbase.s3.amazonaws.com/hbase/HBase-EC2-HUG9.pdf
  * http://www.slideshare.net/steve_l/new-roles-for-the-cloud

 == Initial Source ==
  * http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/hadoop/common/trunk/src/contrib/cloud/
  * http://github.com/tomwhite/whirr

 == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
 The initial source is already in an Apache project's SVN repository
 (Hadoop), so there should be no action required here.

 == External Dependencies ==
 The existing external dependencies all have Apache compatible
 licenses: boto (MIT), libcloud (Apache 2.0), simplejson (MIT). Jclouds
 is not a dependency of the current source, but it is Apache 2.0
 licensed, so it will be possible to use it in the future if required.

 == Cryptography ==
 Whirr uses standard APIs and tools for SSH and SSL.

 == Required Resources ==
 === Mailing lists ===
  * whirr-private (with moderated subscriptions)
  * whirr-dev
  * whirr-commits
  * whirr-user

 === Subversion Directory ===
  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/whirr

 === Issue Tracking ===
  * JIRA Whirr (WHIRR)

 === Other Resources ===
 The existing code already has unit and integration tests so we would
 like a Hudson instance to run them whenever a new patch is submitted.
 This can be added after project creation.

 == Initial Committers ==
  * Tom White (tomwhite at apache dot org)
  * Andrew Purtell (apurtell at apache dot org)
  * Johan Oskarsson (johan at apache dot org)
  * Steve Loughran (stevel at apache dot org)
  * Patrick Hunt (phunt at apache dot org)

 == Affiliations ==
  * Tom White, Cloudera
  * Andrew Purtell, Trend Micro
  * Johan Oskarsson, Twitter
  * Steve Loughran, HP Labs
  * Patrick Hunt, Yahoo!

 == Sponsors ==
 === Champion ===
  * Tom White

 === Nominated Mentors ===
  * Doug Cutting
  * Tom White
  * Steve Loughran

 === Sponsoring Entity ===
  * Incubator PMC

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Traffic Server as a TLP

2010-04-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 +1

        --- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] Termination of WSRP4J podling

2010-04-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:10 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

   ...ant

 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote:
 The Portals PMC as Sponsor of the WSRP4J podling as well as the project
 community itself has voted [1,2] positive [3] to terminate the podling due
 to lack of interest to continue the project.

 I would like to call the Incubator PMC to ratify this decision. Please vote
 on terminating the WSRP4J podling:

 [ ] +1, terminate WSRP4J
 [ ] -1, do not terminate WSRP4J

 Here's my +1

 Regards,

 Ate

 [1]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/portals-general/201004.mbox/%3c4bbe524b.4090...@douma.nu%3e
 [2]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/portals-wsrp4j-user/201004.mbox/%3c4bbe524b.4090...@douma.nu%3e
 [3]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/portals-general/201004.mbox/%3c4bc500fa.6060...@douma.nu%3e

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Re: [VOTE] Subversion podling for graduation

2010-02-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 +1

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Looks like the trademark issues are being resolved, so

  +1 !

 On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

 Hello all,

 I started a discussion thread a week-ish ago to seek out issues for
 Subversion's graduation. The couple bits that were raised[1] have been
 handled, I believe. So with that said, I am unaware of any potential
 showstoppers, and would like to request a vote for graduating the
 Subversion podling. Should this result in a successful vote, I will
 put a resolution before the Board (for its Feb 17 mtg) to construct a
 new Subversion PMC.

 Please vote:

 [ ] +1 Graduation
 [ ] -1 Hold, and continue incubating


 Thanks!

 Cheers,
 -g

 [1] incubator status page, and java bindings package name

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Cassandra to an Apache TLP

2010-01-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

-- dims

On 01/31/2010 10:27 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
 +1
 
 Craig
 
 On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
 

 Greetings,

 We took the feedback from the earlier discussion[1] here and added our
 active mentors to the proposed PMC, (for a total of 7 people), then ran
 that through a new community vote[2].

 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/24427
 [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.cassandra.user/2157

 There didn't seem to be any other feedback, so I'd like to start an
 official vote to recommend graduation of Apache Cassandra to a top-level
 project.

 Please cast your vote:
 [ ] +1 to recommend Cassandra's graduation
 [ ]  0 don't care
 [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

 The vote will be open for 72 hours.

 Thanks,

 -- 
 Eric Evans
 eev...@rackspace.com
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Re: Fwd: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)

2010-01-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me

-- dims

On 01/19/2010 06:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 Forwarding to Incubator PMC, your votes are welcome (and sorry about
 re-voting...we at ESME changed our minds slightly)
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM
 Subject: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
 To: esme-...@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright
 issue ESME-47.
 
 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source 
 file:
 /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
  * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with
  * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
  * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
  * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with
  * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at *
  * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 *
  * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
  * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
  * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
  * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
  * limitations under the License. */
 
 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only
 in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists,
 except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution):
 /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */
 
 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added:
 Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation.
 This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
 Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
 
 
 For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread:
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Shindig as an Apache Top Level Project

2010-01-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1

-- dims

On 01/14/2010 06:58 AM, ant elder wrote:
 +1
 
...ant
 
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Vincent Siveton vsive...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for the positive feedback on the proposal to graduate Shindig
 as a TLP [1].

 I would like to start an official vote to recommend the graduation of
 Apache Shindig as a Top Level Project to the Board.
 To that end I have prepared the resolution for the Board below to be
 presented for consideration at the upcoming Board meeting.

 Community graduation vote thread:
 http://shindig-dev.markmail.org/message/c47amdxjtntkjij5

 Please cast your vote:
 [ ] +1 to recommend Shindig's graduation
 [ ] 0 don't care
 [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, because ...

 The vote will be open for 72 hours.

 Cheers,

 Vincent

 [1] http://apache.markmail.org/message/qvpyymihv6gyh5a7

 --- Begin Proposed Board Resolution ---

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the
 Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a 
 Project
 Management Committee, charged with the creation and maintenance of 
 open-source
 software related to the implementation of an OpenSocial container and
 OpenSocial API specifications, for distribution at no charge to the public.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to
 be known as the Apache Shindig PMC, is hereby established pursuant to 
 Bylaws
 of the Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig Project be and hereby is responsible for 
 the
 creation and maintenance of software related to the OpenSocial API
 specifications, based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it 
 further

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Shindig be and hereby
 is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the
 Board of Directors as the chair of Apache Shindig, and to have primary
 responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of 
 responsibility
 of the Apache Shindig PMC; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are 
 appointed
 to serve as the initial members of the Apache Shindig PMC:

 * Ian Boston (ieb at apache dot org)
 * Kevin Brown (etnu at apache dot org)
 * Chris Chabot(chabotc at apache dot org)
 * Chico Charlesworth (chico at apache dot org)
 * Cassie Doll (doll at apache dot org)
 * Evan Gilbert (evan at apache dot org)
 * John Hjelmstad (johnh at apache dot org)
 * Paul Lindner (lindner at apache dot org)
 * Daniel Peterson (dpeterson at apache dot org)
 * Louis Ryan (lryan at apache dot org)
 * Henning Schmiedehausen (henning at apache dot org)
 * Vincent Siveton (vsiveton at apache dot org)
 * Upayavira (upayavira at apache dot org)
 * Adam Winer (awiner at apache dot org)

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Paul Lindner be appointed to the
 office of Vice President, Apache Shindig, to serve in accordance with and
 subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or 
 disqualification, or
 until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that Apache Shindig be and hereby is tasked with the migration
 and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Shindig podling; and be it
 further

 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
 Shindig podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
 discharged.

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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Jason,

Please clarify. Did you get any email from anyone involved in wink?

thanks,
dims

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Jason Dillon ja...@planet57.com wrote:
 Sorry folks, after my massive falling out with IBM I'm unable to help out 
 with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out differently, 
 mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work with them again.

 I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
 project.

 Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
 subject, so I kept quiet.  But I feel its not fair, so i wanted to officially 
 resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

 Sorry,

 --jason
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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Paul,

Please don't jump the gun - Do you feel that the project needs
further independent mentors? There is no communication from Jason to
the ppmc mailing list or the priv...@incubator mailing list and i
certainly haven't received any personal email.

Yes, If anyone wants to help us with mentoring, Very welcome. Just not
like this.

thanks,
dims

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 Jason

 It is very worrying that you got threatening emails from anyone
 involved in the project. Have you brought this up with the mentors? Do
 you feel that the project needs further independent mentors?

 Paul

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 Sorry folks, after my massive falling out with IBM I'm unable to help 
 out with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out 
 differently, mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work with 
 them again.

 I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
 project.

 Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
 subject, so I kept quiet.  But I feel its not fair, so i wanted to 
 officially resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

 Sorry,

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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Thanks for clarifying Jason. Am very sorry to hear about this. If i can be of 
any help, please let me know.

-- dims

On 11/24/2009 07:49 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:

No, this was all internal to IBM not to do with any Apache commiters or members.

--jason


On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote:


Jason

It is very worrying that you got threatening emails from anyone
involved in the project. Have you brought this up with the mentors? Do
you feel that the project needs further independent mentors?

Paul

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jason Dillonja...@planet57.com  wrote:

Sorry folks, after my massive falling out with IBM I'm unable to help out 
with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out differently, 
mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work with them again.

I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
project.

Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
subject, so I kept quiet.  But I feel its not fair, so i wanted to officially 
resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

Sorry,

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Re: Remove me from commiters

2009-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Paul,

No apologies needed :) All of us are certainly trying to do the best we can 
given our life experiences.

thanks,
-- dims

On 11/24/2009 08:16 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote:

My apologies. I misunderstood Jason's note. And I certainly wasn't
trying to criticize you. only trying to put myself in the place of
someone having an argument with IBM and having two IBM employees as
mentors on the project. The mentors could be fantastic and independent
as indeed you are, but it still might be an issue. However, I can see
that in this case it wasn't an issue.

Best, as ever
Paul

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Paul,

Please don't jump the gun - Do you feel that the project needs
further independent mentors? There is no communication from Jason to
the ppmc mailing list or the priv...@incubator mailing list and i
certainly haven't received any personal email.

Yes, If anyone wants to help us with mentoring, Very welcome. Just not
like this.

thanks,
dims

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Jason

It is very worrying that you got threatening emails from anyone
involved in the project. Have you brought this up with the mentors? Do
you feel that the project needs further independent mentors?

Paul

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jason Dillonja...@planet57.com  wrote:

Sorry folks, after my massive falling out with IBM I'm unable to help out 
with any more wink development.  I wish things had turned out differently, 
mostly on the heads of IBM... no chance I will *ever* work with them again.

I wish you all the best, but I am afraid I can not continue working on this 
project.

Sorry it has taken so long, got some threatening emails from IBM on the 
subject, so I kept quiet.  But I feel its not fair, so i wanted to officially 
resign.  I hope that does not have any effect or your graduation.

Sorry,

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Clerezza into the incubator

2009-11-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1, bring Clerezza into Incubator

On 11/23/2009 01:32 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:

Please vote on accepting Apache Clerezza for incubation at the Apache
Incubator. The full proposal is available at the end of this message and
as a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ClerezzaProposal
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AceProposal. We ask the Incubator PMC
to sponsor it, with Bertrand as the Champion, and Gianugo, Niclas, Ross,
Karl and Reinhard volunteering to be Mentors.

Please cast your votes:

[ ] +1, bring Clerezza into Incubator
[ ] +0, I don't care either way,
[ ] -1, do not bring Clerezza into Incubator, because...

The vote is open for the next 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator
PMC are binding.

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Abstract

Clerezza is an OSGi-based modular application and set of components
(bundles) for building RESTFul Semantic Web applications and services.

Proposal

Clerezza can be used as a platform providing all the compile and runtime
requirement for building semantic applications, or used as individual
bundles within an OSGi framework, e.g. Apache Sling, Apache ServiceMix,
or the Eclipse platform.

Clerezza provides:

 * An API modeling the W3C RDF standard without any vendor specific
additions.
 * Adapter for various triple stores including Sesame, Jena TDB, and
Mulgara.
 * Front-End adaptors, currently to run applications written against
the Jena API. Support for RDF2Go is planned.
 * A JAX-RS implementation designed to work in an OSGi environment
and allowing to provide Root-Resources as OSGi services.
 * Web access to RDF graphs, including a SPARQL-Endpoint.
 * Extensions to JAX-RS allowing to bind Root-Resource classes to
specific RDF-Types rather than to URI-Paths.
 * Templating mechanism (Renderlets) allowing to render RDF resources
returned by JAX-RS resource methods to various formats
 *

   Support for Scala for writing modules, ScalaServerPages to easily
write renderlets, DSL for accessing graphs.
 * Authentication and authorization based on JAAS and OSGi
Conditional Permission Admin
 * Support for user bundles: Users can have a permission to upload
their own sandboxed bundles. The URI space these bundles are allowed to
register their JAX-RS resources can be limited with a prefix.
 * Scripting: Scripting based on javax.script (currently support for
JRuby and Scala)
 * Documentation: Bundles can provide their documentation in RDF.
These are used for online documentation as well as for building Maven
sites (with a Maven reporting plugin)

The RDF abstraction layer can be used independently of other aspects of
Clerezza. It allows applications to be written regardless the used
backend. In its purpose, it is similar to RDF2Go, but provides a
significantly more modular interface allowing e.g. to independently
switch the storage, querying, or serialization layer. Furthermore, it
doesn't introduce concepts alien to the RDF model such as blank node
labels, but is in its core strictly limited to RDF semantics.

The JAX-RS implementation can also be used independently of any other
components. It allows OSGi services to provide a RESTful interface to
their methods. By being based on wymiwyg WRHAPI, it can run both on the
default OSGi Web Service as well as on a jetty instance listening on a
different port.

Background

The current web trends focusing on information sharing, interoperability
and collaboration. Therefore the behaviour of the end-user has changed
over the last years: end-users not only consuming information they also
producing content anytime anywhere - in contrast to non-interactive
websites where users are limited to the passive viewing of information
that is provided to them. Since the end-users are sensitized to the
possibilities of the web the web application requirements increases.
Examples of such applications are social-networking sites, wikis, blogs
and mashups.

The REST paradigm and Semantic Web technologies support these trends and
form the basis for the upcoming Web of Data (a.k.a. linked data, Web
3.0). They change the paradigms for developing complex Web applications.
Clerezza allows to develop applications that integrate perfectly in the
Semantic Web providing all accessible resources in machine
understandable formats without imposing additional burdens on the
developer. Additionally, thanks to the flexibility of the RDF model used
as back-end, some tedious database related tasks required for
traditional Web application development are no longer needed.

Rationale

Most Web application framework are not designed to leverage the full
power of HTTP but often try to reproduce non Web design patterns for the
Web environment. In general, application frameworks are oriented towards
relational or hierarchical data structures. While attempts to overcome
this such as Drupal have become very popular, they do not at their core
base on the stack of Semantic Web standards. Clerezza will prove that

Re: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion)

2009-11-13 Thread Davanum Srinivas

I agree with Joe.

thanks,
dims

On 11/13/2009 03:50 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:





- Original Message 

From: Greg Steingst...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:23:04 PM
Subject: Explanation of the extra pain (was: Two other issues to discuss for  
Subversion)



Okay. I *think* that is pretty much the background/rationale (please
refine/add/etc). But that said, we recognize the pain. Are there
*other* ways that we can achieve the same effects without the
double-move? (of lists and repos) Are there avenues of communication
that Incubator can manage? For example, rather than putting
@incubator.apache.org in all the mailing lists, can it have a
mandatory header/footer for each message? Can the repository have a
big README.INCUBATION at the root? The Incubator still has control of
all releases, so it still can manage branding on all releases. Can we
tweak ViewVC to dynamically insert a header This repository area is
part of an Apache Incubator podling. etc etc.


I am opposed to changing the typical resource layout for an incubating
project.  Release management is one of the most important aspects of
code management at Apache, and frankly there are incubating projects
(eg Thrift) that have no clue how that works.

Incubator is not only a training ground, it is a proving ground too.
We have low barriers to entry because we make clear to the public
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Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education

2009-11-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Jukka,

Agreed.

thanks,
dims

On 11/11/2009 01:47 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com  wrote:

Jukka,
Not so sure... because that dist may contain code that we may not allow.


Personally I'd be happy with a plan from the Subversion team that
shows how they're going to address any issues that may be raised in
the review.

BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Brian,

Do you mind sending an email to pmcs AT apache.org to inform them that they should be using this new version of Apache 
pom? And any other additional instructions needed to enable this feature to work.


thanks,
dims

On 11/11/2009 03:51 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

What is happening in some Java projects, via Maven's release plugin,
is disturbing since the source release only exist in the subversion
repository


This problem has been solved and is no longer valid. Any
repetition of the old news is total fud. We have for many months now
been providing proper source releases for EVERYTHING in the maven
project and just recently promoted the same to the Apache pom making
it automatic for any Apache project with the new pom. See links below
for more info:

http://old.nabble.com/Update-on-ASF-Release-requirements-ts23379350.html#a23379350
http://old.nabble.com/-VOTE--Apache-%28parent-POM%29-version-7-ts26221188.html


As far as I understand the requirements, this issue is completely
resolved so lets stop saying that Maven produces incorrect releases.
It was never an issue with the tool itself, but as a project we've
fixed it and are sharing it to all projects at Apache using Maven.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Dan,

It's up to each project to get their releases correct - Yes. But not everyone hangs out on the d...@maven or 
gene...@incubator. Hence the request to broadcast.


I really don't understand the why? - No one is trying to mandate using a specific pom across all PMC(s). Just the fact 
that there was a problem that was actively worked on and fixed and the proposed solution. Basically telling pmcs take it 
or leave it. At the very least pay attention that the jars that they release should be build-able using the source zip(s).


-- dims

On 11/11/2009 05:22 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

On Wed November 11 2009 4:52:23 pm Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Brian,

Do you mind sending an email to pmcs AT apache.org to inform them that they
  should be using this new version of Apache pom? And any other additional
  instructions needed to enable this feature to work.


Why?   It's up to each project to get their releases correct.   That version
of the Apache pom isn't required to get the needed source bundles created.
I know for CXF, the current parent poms don't work at all and thus we
SHOULDN'T use it.

Dan





thanks,
dims

On 11/11/2009 03:51 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

What is happening in some Java projects, via Maven's release plugin,
is disturbing since the source release only exist in the subversion
repository


This problem has been solved and is no longer valid. Any
repetition of the old news is total fud. We have for many months now
been providing proper source releases for EVERYTHING in the maven
project and just recently promoted the same to the Apache pom making
it automatic for any Apache project with the new pom. See links below
for more info:

http://old.nabble.com/Update-on-ASF-Release-requirements-ts23379350.html#
a23379350
http://old.nabble.com/-VOTE--Apache-%28parent-POM%29-version-7-ts26221188
.html


As far as I understand the requirements, this issue is completely
resolved so lets stop saying that Maven produces incorrect releases.
It was never an issue with the tool itself, but as a project we've
fixed it and are sharing it to all projects at Apache using Maven.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

I think this is a pretty important issue worth spamming but whatever

-- dims

On 11/11/2009 05:43 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:


Actually, the vote was kind of withdrawn to update it to new descriptors.
Thus, its not available yet.   In anycase, no need to spam all the PMCs,
especially those not using Maven.   Just keep an eye on the annou...@maven
list.   When available, it will be announced there.


Dan


On Wed November 11 2009 4:52:23 pm Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Brian,

Do you mind sending an email to pmcs AT apache.org to inform them that they
  should be using this new version of Apache pom? And any other additional
  instructions needed to enable this feature to work.

thanks,
dims

On 11/11/2009 03:51 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

What is happening in some Java projects, via Maven's release plugin,
is disturbing since the source release only exist in the subversion
repository


This problem has been solved and is no longer valid. Any
repetition of the old news is total fud. We have for many months now
been providing proper source releases for EVERYTHING in the maven
project and just recently promoted the same to the Apache pom making
it automatic for any Apache project with the new pom. See links below
for more info:

http://old.nabble.com/Update-on-ASF-Release-requirements-ts23379350.html#
a23379350
http://old.nabble.com/-VOTE--Apache-%28parent-POM%29-version-7-ts26221188
.html


As far as I understand the requirements, this issue is completely
resolved so lets stop saying that Maven produces incorrect releases.
It was never an issue with the tool itself, but as a project we've
fixed it and are sharing it to all projects at Apache using Maven.

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Thanks Brian!

On 11/11/2009 06:22 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com  wrote:

I think this is a pretty important issue worth spamming but whatever



I think it's worth noting, I've had several projects asking for it to
be available so they can use it and ditch their homebrew solutions.
When it's promoted to the repo, I'll send a notice.

  Dan, perhaps on the maven dev list, I'd like to understand why it
won't work for cxf...but fwiw, we made it possible to replace the
default descriptor bundle with your own so hopefully even if we can't
make the descriptor work for cxf, the rest is still applicable.

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Re: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of Make a Release requirement for Incubator graduation

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas

I agree with the following, i don't think a waiver is needed right now...

 This is a graduation issue, why can't it just wait
 until then and say in the graduation proposal there's not been a
 release but its not necessary because of x y z.

thanks,
dims

On 11/10/2009 01:49 PM, ant elder wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello IPMC,

The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.

As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF.
Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the distrubtion/mirror
system, announcements, among others[1]. We believe that the Subversion
community already has a deep understanding of the Apache release
model, based on the following qualifications of several of its
committers/mentors:

* Greg Stein has been a committer at Apache since before the
Foundation was started. He has been involved in releases of httpd and
APR, including time as Release Manager (RM) for APR. He helped to
establish the APR TLP and the Commons TLP (prior incarnation; now
defunct). Greg wrote the versioning guidelines for APR, which are also
in use by the Subversion project. Through his 8+ years on the Board,
he has read and reviewed reports from across the ASF about release,
IP, and infrastructure issues.

* Justin Erenkrantz has been a committer since 2001, contributing to
httpd and APR, along with mentoring the stdcxx project when it was in
the Incubator. He has been the RM for both httpd and APR. In fact,
Justin wrote the initial guidelines for the release of httpd. Justin
has been part of Infrastructure almost since its inception as a
distinct group, which includes the provision of all the facilities to
actually make and distribute ASF releases. Justin has spent many years
on the Board, providing further insight to releases across the
Foundation.

* Sander Striker has been a committer since 2001, contributing to APR
and then httpd. Sander acted as the RM for httpd releases, and also
held a stint as the VP for httpd. Add in his time spent with
Infrastructure and the Board, and he's been observing ASF releases for
many years.

* Garrett Rooney has been a committer since 2004, contributing and
making releases of APR, and committing to httpd. He was also the VP of
APR for several years, and has mentored two Incubating projects.

* Daniel Rall has been a committer since 2001, contributing to many
projects: Turbine, Fulcrum, Torque, and numerous Jakarta Commons
projects. He established the community around XML-RPC, brought it
through the Incubator, and maintained it for several years within the
XML Project. He also participated in some of the bootstrapping around
the Velocity and Maven prtingojects, and participated on the Infra team.

The Subversion community's belief is that we have ample experience to
guide us in making a release, when that time is arrives. There will
certainly be variances (e.g. mirroring) from our current established
procedures[2], but some simple fine-tuning should resolve that. The
bulk of the existing release process already meets and exceeds that a
typical Apache release. Niclas Hedman pointed out that the Subversion
community has produced 32 releases over the past four years, which
hopefully indicates a smooth, understood, and functional release
process.

Cheers,
-g

[1] one particular item is using a release as a gating/focal point for
legal review, but we feel that can be performed as an action
separate/distinct from performing a release
[2] http://subversion.tigris.org/release-process.html



-0

I'm not at all familiar with how the Subversion project works so as an
IPMC member I don't see how I can decide this before they've even
started incubating. This is a graduation issue, why can't it just wait
until then and say in the graduation proposal there's not been a
release but its not necessary because of x y z.

...ant

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Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Personally i am ok with #1, but i am not sure if svn switch --relocate too 
much of a burden for you guys :)

On 11/10/2009 02:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:

* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/

We are hoping to minimize overall disruption to the community with a
move to incubator space, then a move to apache space.

Cheers,
-g

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Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Now that you have explained :) +1 from me.

-- dims

On 11/10/2009 02:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

LOL

Well... the problem is that an svn mv from /incubator/subversion/ to
/subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is
actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is very
important to us).

(and yes, because of that history issue, I personally have no problem
putting podlings at the top-level in our repository; it *is* version
control, and we can always remove failed podlings' code from anywhere)

Cheers,
-g

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 14:38, Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com  wrote:

Personally i am ok with #1, but i am not sure if svn switch --relocate too
much of a burden for you guys :)

On 11/10/2009 02:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:


There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:

* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than
/incubator/subversion/

We are hoping to minimize overall disruption to the community with a
move to incubator space, then a move to apache space.

Cheers,
-g

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Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education

2009-11-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Jukka,
Not so sure... because that dist may contain code that we may not allow.

Greg,
Is there any code in there that is not Apache compatible? i see some in the 
contrib section...
http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/svn-clean

thanks,
dims

On 11/10/2009 04:25 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:

Unfortunately, some documentation needs to be brought in sync.

See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist


I'm nitpicking, but even there we only ask the podlings to
demonstrate ability to create Apache releases.


Per Joe, I think it makes sense to run podlings through a release to
teach them the ropes, rather than lump that onto Infrastructure. But I
also believe we should provide waivers when appropriate.


Fair enough.

As an alternative, how about submitting
http://subversion.tigris.org/downloads/subversion-1.6.6.tar.bz2 for
IPMC review? That should require no extra work from and no special
waivers for Subversion.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 from me.

On 11/04/2009 03:36 PM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

+1 :-)

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Subversion is a version control system.  You probably know it well as
it is the version control system employed by the Apache Software
Foundation.

  The Subversion project would like to join the Apache Software
Foundation to remove the overhead of having to run its own
corporation.  The Subversion project is already run quite like an
Apache project, and already counts a number of ASF Members amongst
its committers.

  Work on Subversion was originally started at CollabNet; Karl Fogel
was hired in January 2000.  Jim Blandy, at RedHat, already had an
initial design for the storage system, which was incorporated into the
FS design.  In February Brian Behlendorf invited Greg Stein to
contribute his WebDAV experience to Subversion.  Ben Colins-Sussman
was hired in April 2000 to work on the project.  In that same month
the first all hands meeting was held, where a number of interested
people came together to talk about the project.

  Subversion was run as an open source project since the early days.
Now, more than nine years later, it retains a healthy community,
and has a good number of committers.  In the life span of Subversion,
several committers have switched employers and have maintained involvement.
The committership is diverse, both geographically as well as in terms of
employment.

  The equivalent of the PMC consists of all the full committers to the
Subversion project (currently around 55 people).  The community uses the
voting process also used at the ASF.  Releases are signed off by gathering
votes/digital signatures of each committer who verified the release
candidate.

  We feel the ASF and Subversion communities are very compatible,
witness the cross interest that already exists. There is both a
vibrant developer as well as a large and active user community.
Technology-wise, Subversion builds on APR, and implements two Apache
HTTP Server modules.

  Note that Subversion has a number of related projects, which are not
part of this proposal (e.g. cvs2svn, TortoiseSVN, Subclipse).

  More information on Subversion can be found at
http://www.subversion.org/ and http://subversion.tigris.org/.

  The Subversion Corporation has a license to all source code, and has
CLAs on file for nearly all it's committers.  That is, we have all but
one or two full committers, and some percentage of partial committers.

  We have a number of *user-configurable* dependencies which are not
compatible with the AL:
  - Neon, a HTTP client library, used by libsvn_ra_neon, is LGPL.
   (An alternative HTTP client library, libsvn_ra_serf uses the Serf
library under ALv2.)

  - Qt, KDE and GNOME libraries are also under LGPL-2.1. D-Bus (which
is also used by libsvn_auth_gnome_keyring and libsvn_auth_kwallet) is
under Academic Free License 2.1 or=GPL-2.
   (This support is for integration for KDE and GNOME's authentication
providers.)

  - libintl
   (This library provides translation support for systems without
a proper internationalization library.)

  - BDB
   (This is used by the libsvn_fs_base system which stores its data
in BDB; an alternative repository system called fs_fs does not
have this dependency.)

---
Required Resources
  - Mailing lists
   - dev
   - issues
   - users
   - private
   - commits
   - announce
   - breakage (see
http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewForumSummary.do?dsForumId=552)
   - We will work with the Infrastructure team to transfer the subscriber
 listings to the new destinations.
  - Subversion:
   - We have not made a decision whether we prefer Subversion should be
 imported into the main ASF Subversion repository or be hosted as a
 separate repository to enable early testing of the repository code.  We
 intend to discuss this during the Incubation process before the code is
 imported.  It is also understood that ASF infrastructure team may be
 willing to run custom pre-release Subversion server builds for the
 entire ASF, so this separate repository option may not be required.
   - The Subversion source code can be found at:
 http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/.
  - Issue tracking
   - We haven't made a decision between JIRA or Bugzilla at this time and
 expect this decision to be made as part of the Incubation process.  Our
 current issue tracking system uses Issuezilla (a fork of Bugzilla) and
 we have not yet decided whether we want to import our previous issues
 into the new system and will decide this in the course of the Incubation
 process.
   - Our current issue tracker is at
 http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html.
  - Buildbot
   - We currently use buildbot across a number of platforms and configurations
 for automated builds and testing.  Over time, we would like to migrate
 these services to Apache infrastructure where appropriate.
   - Our 

Re: [VOTE] Accept Libcloud proposal for incubation

2009-10-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 from me.

On 10/28/2009 04:17 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

[X ] +1 Accept Libcloud for incubation


Looks cool, good luck!
-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Aries proposal for incubation

2009-09-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Folks,

I see Niall, Leo, Jeremy, Robert, Bill and Guillaume respond to concerns from Jim and Niclas. It would be invaluable if 
any incubator PMC members with concerns (or without!) could help us as mentors during the incubation process.


Here's the list of votes so far (see below). Noel, can you please chime in with your VOTE? I am hoping that other 
incubator PMC members who have not VOTE'd would cast their ballot as well


thanks,
dims

Davanum Srinivas+1
Craig L Russell +1
Ant Elder   +1
Daniel Kulp +1
Matthias Wessendorf +1
Kevan Miller+1
James Strachan  +1
Guillaume Nodet +1
Alan D. Cabrera +1
Luciano Resende +1
Carsten Ziegeler+1
Bill Stoddard   +1
Niklas Gustavsson   +1
Jim Jagielski   -1
Niall Pemberton +1
Donald Woods+1
Joe Bohn+1
Daniel S. Haischt   +1
Niclas Hedhman  -1
Ralph Goers +1
Leo Simons  +1
Robert Burrell Donkin   +1



On 09/18/2009 04:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org  wrote:

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Bill Stoddardwgstodd...@gmail.com  wrote:


I am having a really difficult time getting my head around Jim and Niclas'
objections that this is an umbrella project.


I think Jim came up with a good lithmus test; If it is unclear what
should NOT go into a project...

So, when I read the proposal the second time, my interpretation is
that there is no actual boundary, other than perhaps OSGi. If it was
only specs, then I would support Richard's notion that the community
should work towards Felix sub-project (which was a sore point), but
the scope is enterprise OSGi, which is just about as wide as it
gets. Perhaps the group as such has much better ideas on what they
mean, fair enough, but then *I* would like to see it in the proposal.
After all, it is very common around here that the proposal will become
the basis for the project charter (if any), so *I* think it is better
to address this early (and often ;-) )...


it is not conventional here to insist on a set exit strategy before a
proposal is approved. perhaps this innovation is one that should be
considered but IMHO it's not really workable to do that this late in
the acceptance process.

targeting an exit as a felix sub-project would require the aries
proposes to start again with approval from the felix proposal and so
on. it may also prove controversial.

i would also be worried about settling on exit as a felix sub-project
now. i'm a big felix fan and think it runs very well. but i think
there's a limit on how far it can scale without loosing it's
cohesiveness as a community. i would like see felix continue to act as
a home for cross cut OSGi components factored out of existing apache
codebases.

if there are going to be a large number of new OSGi specs with a
distinctive enterprise identity (whatever that means) then i worry
that the felix project may find themselves flooded and lose direction.
i also worry that if no distinctive identity develops for enterprise
specifications then aries is going to have scope issues. i'm not sure
that this can be resolved right now: the specification process doesn't
seem mature enough yet. but i don't see this as a reason to tell aries
to come back later. code and community first.

i would expect that the project reports include detail on the
specifications they intend to implement and what progress has been
made towards a tight definition of enterprise (whether as a
distinctive group of specifications or a good description)

- robert

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Aries proposal for incubation

2009-09-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 for further development:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/sandbox/blueprint
 * IBM will also contribute code for:
   o container-managed JPA support in an OSGi environment.
   o making OSGi services visible to Java EE components through JNDI.
   o packaging web components as bundles and a URL handler for
recognizing and converting non-bundled Web components
 * We will also be soliciting implementations of other OSGi
enterprise application-centric specifications.

External Dependencies

 * Apache Ant http://ant.apache.org Apache License
 * Apache Commons http://commons.apache.org Apache License
 * Junit (Java unit test framework) http://junit.sourceforge.net
CPL v1.0 license: http://junit.sourceforge.net/cpl-v10.html
 * Apache Felix (implementation of the OSGi Core and Compendium
specifications - compliance level unknown) http://felix.apache.org
Apache License (hosted by ASF).
 * Eclipse Equinox (compliant implementation of the OSGi Core
Specification and Compendium specifications)
http://eclipse.org/equinox/ Eclipse Public License
 * OpenJPA http://openjpa.apache.org Apache License
 * Serp http://serp.sourceforge.net/ BSD
 * Apache Geronimo http://geronimo.apache.org Apache License

Required Resources
Mailing lists

aries-private (with moderated subscriptions)

aries-dev

aries-commits

aries-user

Subversion Directory

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/aries

Issue Tracking

JIRA (ARIES)

Web Site

Confluence (Aries)

Initial Committers

Names of initial committers with affiliation and current ASF status:

 * Alan Cabrera (LinkedIn, ASF Member)
 * Alasdair Nottingham (IBM)
 * Andrew Osborne (IBM)
 * Bernd Kolb (SAP)
 * Carsten Ziegeler (Individual, ASF member)
 * Dan Kulp (Progress, ASF member)
 * David Bosschaert (Progress, ASF committer)
 * David Jencks (IBM, ASF member)
 * Dimo Stoilov (SAP)
 * Eoghan Glynn (Progress, ASF committer)
 * Graham Charters (IBM)
 * Guillaume Nodet (Progress, ASF member)
 * Hiram Chirino (Progress, ASF member)
 * Ian Robinson (IBM)
 * James Strachan (Progress, ASF member)
 * Jarek Gawor (IBM, ASF member)
 * Jean-Sebastien Delfino (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Jeremy Hughes (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Joe Bohn (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Lin Sun (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Kiril Mitov (SAP)
 * Mark Nuttall (IBM)
 * Niklas Gustavsson (individual, ASF committer)
 * Nikolai Tankov (SAP)
 * Oisin Hurley (Progress)
 * Peter Peshev (SAP)
 * Raymond Feng (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Rick McGuire (IBM, ASF committer)
 * Roman Roelofsen (ProSyst)
 * Sabine Heider (SAP)
 * Sergey Beryozkin (Progress, ASF committer)
 * Stuart McCulloch (individual, ASF committer)
 * Timothy Ward (IBM)
 * Todor Boev (ProSyst)
 * Valentin Mahrwald (IBM)
 * Violeta Georgieva (SAP)
 * Zoe Slattery (IBM)

Affiliations

The majority of the initial committers listed on the proposal
initially are employed by IBM corp or Progress Software. One objective
of the incubator is to attract a diverse community of contributors and
we anticipate future contributors to have other affiliations. Indeed,
since the proposal was initially posted, further initial committers
have volunteered from SAP, ProSyst, LinkedIn and some individuals.

Sponsors
Champions

Kevan Miller, Guillaume Nodet

Nominated Mentors

Guillaume Nodet, Davanum Srinivas (Dims), Kevan Miller

Sponsoring Entity

The incubator. Successful graduation from Incubator should result in
Aries becoming a new TLP.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Hi Peter,

Excellent! I am hoping that the champions - in this case Kevan Miller and 
Guillaume Nodet - will chime in on next steps.

thanks,
dims

On 09/09/2009 01:45 PM, Peter Peshev wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

We from SAP would like to join and nominate six people for the
proposed Aries project. What's the process - should I just add the six
names on the wiki ? Maybe we could discuss this offline to not spam
the whole mailing list.

Unfortunately none of the suggested people from our side has
experience in Apache project , but I  hope that’s not an issue.

Best Regards
Peter Peshev



On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Jeremy Hugheshugh...@apache.org  wrote:

Cross-pollination and help from the Felix community have been talked
about several times and I absolutely welcome that. As such, please
would Felix committers willing to spend time helping the (proposed)
Aries podling add their names to the initial committer list on the
proposal wiki [1]. This naturally extends beyond Felix committers.

Apologies for x-post to d...@felix ... I wanted to attract as many as
possible :-)

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AriesProposal

Thanks,
Jeremy

2009/9/5 Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com:

Karl,

Please don't get me wrong. Felix is choice for an excellent *destination*
TLP. The Incubator PMC itself was setup to take away the responsibility for
training incoming folks from existing TLP(s). So my gut feeling is that we
should allow the incubation process to go on and decide on destination and
scope once the project is ready to graduate. I am sure the folks on the
proposal would love to get any and every help they can get to graduate as
well as on the technical front. Please do continue to provide help and
guidance.

thanks,
dims

On 09/05/2009 10:29 AM, Karl Pauls wrote:


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com
  wrote:


Karl,

There are *many* TLP(s) with overlapping scope as James Strachan pointed
out
earlier in the thread.


I don't see the need to shoe horn a new community with new code into an
existing TLP just because of scope. For all you know by the time they get
out of the incubator their scope may change a bit (or more).


I'm sorry if it looked like I wanted to shoe horn anything into felix.
That wasn't my goal as for me it was a question of where I would like
it to happen and as I said earlier already, not the end of the world
if not.

regards,

Karl


thanks,
dims

On 09/05/2009 04:31 AM, Karl Pauls wrote:


The question
is about the scope and goals of Aries and more specifically about the
part where it is about being an umbrella for OSGi EE spec
implementations where it has been argued that this could/should be
done at felix


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Ralph,

Not yet. Let's wait for the discussions to wrap up.

thanks,
dims

On 09/06/2009 02:59 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:


On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:





Voting against a bunch of people forming a new community here at the
ASF is v.disappointing and goes against what IMO the ASF is all about.
If the Felix community wants to get involved with their efforts then
great, if not then don't try to block what they want to do. As others
have said there are various options for graduation, but I think you've
made Felix less rather than more likely by your antagonism to this
proposal.

I'm +1 to this proposal and hoping Felix members with shared interests
get involved.





Is this an actual vote thread to accept the proposal?

Ralph


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Richard,

I did agree with you that Felix would make a great choice as a destination TLP. The situation with ServiceMix/Karaf is 
not the same as what is happening here with a new set of incoming committers and code.


I sincerely do hope that cross-pollination happens even when the podling is in 
incubator.

thanks,
dims

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Richard S. Hallhe...@ungoverned.org  wrote:

* -1 for the portion of the proposal creating yet another community
  for implementing OSGi specs at Apache since the Felix community
  would happily welcome more contribution (just like recently
  occurred with ServiceMix members being accepted as Felix
  committers and PMC members for the Karaf subproject)


On 09/06/2009 12:39 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

I support the creation of a new community around an EE component
model for OSGi and OSGi specs dependent upon this technology;
however, I believe the Felix project is the best choice to work on
independent OSGi specs since we have been doing it for years and it
would guarantee cross-project collaboration.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Stuart,

Thanks a ton. Please do join the aries mailing list(s) after we VOTE on (and hopefully accept) the proposal. All the 
action will shift there from this mailing list.


thanks,
dims

On 09/05/2009 11:08 PM, Stuart McCulloch wrote:

2009/9/5 Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com


One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being
able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks presenting
this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)



Personally speaking I'd be willing to help out where possible regardless of
where it starts off.
I doubt I'm experienced enough in the Apache Way to be a mentor, but having
been on the
OSGi Enterprise Expert Group in the past I am interested in seeing solutions
in this space.



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Marcel,

I believe it was an oversight to have missed mentioning ACE. Hopefully one of the proposed committers will comment on 
this aspect.


thanks,
dims

On 09/06/2009 08:29 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote:

It probably got swamped in the discussion, but, on Sep 1, 2009, at 22:20
, Marcel Offermans wrote:


On Sep 1, 2009, at 16:38 , Jeremy Hughes wrote:


Relationships with Other Apache Projects


I know ACE is only in incubation, but is there a reason for not
mentioning it in this list? To me it makes sense to also consider
technology to deploy and update OSGi components and I think ACE could
fit in there nicely.


Does anybody want to comment on this? I would definitely like to
collaborate on making ACE work well with anything Aries produces (since
you were hinting it's not a single project but more a series of
components).

Greetings, Marcel




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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Karl,

There are *many* TLP(s) with overlapping scope as James Strachan pointed out 
earlier in the thread.

I don't see the need to shoe horn a new community with new code into an existing TLP just because of scope. For all you 
know by the time they get out of the incubator their scope may change a bit (or more).


thanks,
dims

On 09/05/2009 04:31 AM, Karl Pauls wrote:

The question
is about the scope and goals of Aries and more specifically about the
part where it is about being an umbrella for OSGi EE spec
implementations where it has been argued that this could/should be
done at felix


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Richard,

#2 - Finished impls could quickly be released as non-incubator artifacts. is also something that i am not comfortable 
with, at least until the new committers get off the ground, attract a user community and show that they are able to 
follow the ASF way.


Ideally my hope is that d...@felix folks should guide the community being formed within the incubation podling process. 
If we can get anyone interested join in as a mentor and/or committer that would be wonderful.


thanks,
dims

On 09/04/2009 06:04 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:


On 9/4/09 16:49, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Richard,

I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks.

One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not
being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks
presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)


Dims, since I don't speak for all Felix community members, I can't
really answer that question. I imagine that interested parties would
contribute, but certainly a benefit of at least doing any independent
OSGi spec impls at Felix is you will automatically get the oversight of
people who have been doing it for years, if not their contribution. The
separation could possibly make life simpler too for those willing to
help, since:

1. People interested only in the OSGi spec impls do not necessarily
have to be involved on Aries mailing lists that will likely
incorporate a lot of discussion about the Aries component model
and related content.
2. Finished impls could quickly be released as non-incubator artifacts.

- richard



thanks,
dims

On 09/04/2009 04:31 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Richard,

On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it
would be
nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi
users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom
also work in the EE space.


Will the people mentioned not participate if Aries is a separate
podling to start with? After all destination PMC can be determined
during graduation process. Also the incubation process is to show new
incoming team how Apache works etc..is that better done as a podling
or as a felix sub project? If we continue the same thought process,
will there every be any incubator podling with for any OSGi related
activity?


Yes, and I mentioned this, but that seems to get lost somehow.


In short, it makes sense for spec impls tied to the Aries component
model (for example), to be hosted there, but there is little need to
create another project to incubate generic OSGi spec impls, since the
Felix community was set up for that. The reality is, most OSGi
specs are
not huge projects so we likely wouldn't want TLPs for all of them, but
nothing stops a subproject started at Felix from going TLP if it takes
on a life of its own.


Choices are

1) Podling - TLP
2) Podling - Felix Sub project
3) Podling - Felix Sub project - TLP
4) Felix Sub project
5) Felix Sub project - TLP

The first 3 effectively uses incubator process(es) to educate the
incoming folks and provides a strong grounding in ASF-land (at least
that is what the intention is :)

So, why should we bypass incubator?


Again, there was already a project incubated to educate incoming folks
on how to create open source OSGi spec impls at Apache, so why do we
need to repeat that process?

Your phrasing of this question implies we are trying to somehow skirt
the Apache way, but educating incoming people via contributions and
meritocracy to an existing project is not some shortcut.

- richard



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Karl,

Please don't get me wrong. Felix is choice for an excellent *destination* TLP. The Incubator PMC itself was setup to 
take away the responsibility for training incoming folks from existing TLP(s). So my gut feeling is that we should allow 
the incubation process to go on and decide on destination and scope once the project is ready to graduate. I am sure the 
folks on the proposal would love to get any and every help they can get to graduate as well as on the technical front. 
Please do continue to provide help and guidance.


thanks,
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On 09/05/2009 10:29 AM, Karl Pauls wrote:

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Davanum Srinivasdava...@gmail.com  wrote:

Karl,

There are *many* TLP(s) with overlapping scope as James Strachan pointed out
earlier in the thread.


I don't see the need to shoe horn a new community with new code into an
existing TLP just because of scope. For all you know by the time they get
out of the incubator their scope may change a bit (or more).


I'm sorry if it looked like I wanted to shoe horn anything into felix.
That wasn't my goal as for me it was a question of where I would like
it to happen and as I said earlier already, not the end of the world
if not.

regards,

Karl


thanks,
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On 09/05/2009 04:31 AM, Karl Pauls wrote:


The question
is about the scope and goals of Aries and more specifically about the
part where it is about being an umbrella for OSGi EE spec
implementations where it has been argued that this could/should be
done at felix


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
 13:23, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
   Kevan,
  
   Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I
   got the impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If
   I am wrong, what was the meat of such?
  
   I'm also less happy with the rhetoric here repeated over and over,
   seemingly uninterested in discussion of reaching a solution everyone
   can accept. (From both camps, btw)
  
   -- Niclas
  
   On Sep 4, 2009 12:53 AM, Kevan Millerkevan.mil...@gmail.com
    wrote:
  
   On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:  On Thu, Sep 3,
   2009 at 3:19 AM, William A. Ro...
   Totally agree. Had certainly hoped that Felix committers would be
   interested in joining...
  
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Richard,

On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it would be
nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi
users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom
also work in the EE space.


Will the people mentioned not participate if Aries is a separate podling to start with? After all destination PMC can be 
determined during graduation process. Also the incubation process is to show new incoming team how Apache works etc..is 
that better done as a podling or as a felix sub project? If we continue the same thought process, will there every be 
any incubator podling with for any OSGi related activity?



In short, it makes sense for spec impls tied to the Aries component
model (for example), to be hosted there, but there is little need to
create another project to incubate generic OSGi spec impls, since the
Felix community was set up for that. The reality is, most OSGi specs are
not huge projects so we likely wouldn't want TLPs for all of them, but
nothing stops a subproject started at Felix from going TLP if it takes
on a life of its own.


Choices are

1) Podling - TLP
2) Podling - Felix Sub project
3) Podling - Felix Sub project - TLP
4) Felix Sub project
5) Felix Sub project - TLP

The first 3 effectively uses incubator process(es) to educate the incoming folks and provides a strong grounding in 
ASF-land (at least that is what the intention is :)


So, why should we bypass incubator?

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas

Richard,

I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks.

One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being able or willing to participate in a new 
podling? (If the folks presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)


thanks,
dims

On 09/04/2009 04:31 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Richard,

On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it would be
nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi
users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom
also work in the EE space.


Will the people mentioned not participate if Aries is a separate
podling to start with? After all destination PMC can be determined
during graduation process. Also the incubation process is to show new
incoming team how Apache works etc..is that better done as a podling
or as a felix sub project? If we continue the same thought process,
will there every be any incubator podling with for any OSGi related
activity?


Yes, and I mentioned this, but that seems to get lost somehow.


In short, it makes sense for spec impls tied to the Aries component
model (for example), to be hosted there, but there is little need to
create another project to incubate generic OSGi spec impls, since the
Felix community was set up for that. The reality is, most OSGi specs are
not huge projects so we likely wouldn't want TLPs for all of them, but
nothing stops a subproject started at Felix from going TLP if it takes
on a life of its own.


Choices are

1) Podling - TLP
2) Podling - Felix Sub project
3) Podling - Felix Sub project - TLP
4) Felix Sub project
5) Felix Sub project - TLP

The first 3 effectively uses incubator process(es) to educate the
incoming folks and provides a strong grounding in ASF-land (at least
that is what the intention is :)

So, why should we bypass incubator?


Again, there was already a project incubated to educate incoming folks
on how to create open source OSGi spec impls at Apache, so why do we
need to repeat that process?

Your phrasing of this question implies we are trying to somehow skirt
the Apache way, but educating incoming people via contributions and
meritocracy to an existing project is not some shortcut.

- richard



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Let me clarify why i asked that question, When we started the Wink Podling there was strong recommendation that the 
incoming folks should work under CXF which already has a JAX-RS implementation. Once we did start the podling we have 
had guidance from just Dan Kulp from CXF and not from anyone else :(


thanks,
dims

On 09/04/2009 04:49 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Richard,

I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks.

One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not
being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks
presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)

thanks,
dims

On 09/04/2009 04:31 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Richard,

On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it
would be
nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi
users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom
also work in the EE space.


Will the people mentioned not participate if Aries is a separate
podling to start with? After all destination PMC can be determined
during graduation process. Also the incubation process is to show new
incoming team how Apache works etc..is that better done as a podling
or as a felix sub project? If we continue the same thought process,
will there every be any incubator podling with for any OSGi related
activity?


Yes, and I mentioned this, but that seems to get lost somehow.


In short, it makes sense for spec impls tied to the Aries component
model (for example), to be hosted there, but there is little need to
create another project to incubate generic OSGi spec impls, since the
Felix community was set up for that. The reality is, most OSGi specs
are
not huge projects so we likely wouldn't want TLPs for all of them, but
nothing stops a subproject started at Felix from going TLP if it takes
on a life of its own.


Choices are

1) Podling - TLP
2) Podling - Felix Sub project
3) Podling - Felix Sub project - TLP
4) Felix Sub project
5) Felix Sub project - TLP

The first 3 effectively uses incubator process(es) to educate the
incoming folks and provides a strong grounding in ASF-land (at least
that is what the intention is :)

So, why should we bypass incubator?


Again, there was already a project incubated to educate incoming folks
on how to create open source OSGi spec impls at Apache, so why do we
need to repeat that process?

Your phrasing of this question implies we are trying to somehow skirt
the Apache way, but educating incoming people via contributions and
meritocracy to an existing project is not some shortcut.

- richard



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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wink 0.1 (RC-3)

2009-08-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 from me.

thanks,
dims

On 08/19/2009 08:12 AM, sebb wrote:

On 19/08/2009, Snitkovsky, Martinmartin.snitkov...@hp.com  wrote:

The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 0.1

  The voting mail thread can be viewed at: http://tiny.cc/es4Zu



  We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this 
release.



  The Maven staging area is at:

  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/wink-staging-026/



  The distributions are in:

  
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/wink-staging-026/org/apache/wink/apache-wink/0.1-incubating/



  This release is tagged at:

  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-0.1-incubating/  
(revision 8046487)



  Release signing key was uploaded to 
http://www.pramberger.at/peter/services/keyserver/;  http://pgp.mit.edu/  
public key servers



  Release signing KEYS file can be download from SVN 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/tags/wink-0.1-incubating/KEYS



The sigs and hashes all look OK; archive contents looks OK.
NOTICE and LICENSE look OK; manifests look OK.

One minor problem from before:

The wink-0.1-incubating-*.jar files look to be a combination of the
client, common, server, spring and webdav jars, yet the NOTICE files
say Apache Wink WebDav. These should say Apache Wink.

IMO this is not a release blocker, but it should be fixed before the
next release as it's confusing.



  Thanks,


  Martin








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Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1

On 08/12/2009 10:29 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote:

+1

On 8/12/09 0:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

PMC and others,

Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's
repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no
signs of any improvement.
I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the project. Please
place your votes.

[ ] +1, go ahead and mothball/pause Lokahi,
[ ] -1, don't mothball/pause Lokahi, because... (reason is optional,
but appreciated)


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Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Wookie - a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

2009-07-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1

-- dims

On 07/14/2009 06:53 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

+1 (IPMC binding)

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Matthias Wessendorfmat...@apache.org  wrote:

+1

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@apache.org  wrote:

I would like to formally present the incubator proposal for Apache
Wookie, a W3C widget engine with Google Wave extension

The full proposal can be found at
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WookieProposal

Vote will close in a little over 72 hours at mid day (BST, UTC + 1)
Friday 17th July.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7day=17year=2009hour=12min=0sec=0p1=136

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Re: [Wink] Podling setup steps

2009-05-31 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Folks,

Wink is now on JIRA
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProject.jspa?pid=12310940

Per #5 below, please send me your JIRA id's (you can create one
yourself if you haven't already!) for me to add you in as a committer.

thanks,
dims

PS: i subscribed a few folks who had not already joined the wink-dev@
mailing list to that list. If you wish to use another email address,
please let me know.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
 fyi, wink-dev@ / wink-commits@ / wink-private@ are in ready. Please
 subscribe by sending one email each to wink-dev-subscribe@ /
 wink-commits-subscribe@ / wink-private-subscribe@

 thanks,
 dims

 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eli, Nick,

 #1) Created an svn area for Wink
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/

 #2) Requested Apache Infra to create mailing lists
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2068

 Can you please help with these tasks?

 #1) Make sure that everyone on the team has filled in their Individual CLA
 (See form at http://www.apache.org/licenses/). Once they filled it up
 and faxed it in, In a few days it will show up in Unlisted CLA's
 section here - http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html

 #2) Please fill up the CCLA (See form at
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/) one for each of your employer and fax
 it in.

 #3) Please send me the list of email id's and preferred id's (Apache
 ID for svn and email)  for each committer proposed in the Wink
 proposal. That will help me get the id's created for each of them

 #4) Please fill up a Software grant and fax it in
 (http://www.apache.org/licenses/)

 #5) Please ask everyone to create an id in JIRA and let me know what
 their JIRA id's are. I'll create the JIRA space when the mailing list
 gets created.

 Others Tasks that i need to do:

 #1) Get Wink listed under http://incubator.apache.org/projects/

 Tasks for later for the participants once we get started:

 #1) Help draft report to the Apache Board (see details in wiki -
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)

 Lastly, Till we get wink-dev@ setup, please use gene...@incubator for
 all communication and add a [Wink] in the subject for us to easily
 find the emails.

 Please let me know if you need more information. You may want to read
 up more on the setup process etc here
 (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html)

 thanks,
 dims

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Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - choose your favorite!

2009-05-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1 Aseca

On 05/30/2009 04:31 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

+1 Aseca

Craig

On May 29, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@sun.com
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Sling as Top Level Project

2009-05-29 Thread Davanum Srinivas

[X ] +1 to recommend Sling's graduation


On 05/29/2009 04:26 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

[X ] +1 to recommend Sling's graduation


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[Wink] Podling setup steps

2009-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Eli, Nick,

#1) Created an svn area for Wink
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/

#2) Requested Apache Infra to create mailing lists
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2068

Can you please help with these tasks?

#1) Make sure that everyone on the team has filled in their Individual CLA
(See form at http://www.apache.org/licenses/). Once they filled it up
and faxed it in, In a few days it will show up in Unlisted CLA's
section here - http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html

#2) Please fill up the CCLA (See form at
http://www.apache.org/licenses/) one for each of your employer and fax
it in.

#3) Please send me the list of email id's and preferred id's (Apache
ID for svn and email)  for each committer proposed in the Wink
proposal. That will help me get the id's created for each of them

#4) Please fill up a Software grant and fax it in
(http://www.apache.org/licenses/)

#5) Please ask everyone to create an id in JIRA and let me know what
their JIRA id's are. I'll create the JIRA space when the mailing list
gets created.

Others Tasks that i need to do:

#1) Get Wink listed under http://incubator.apache.org/projects/

Tasks for later for the participants once we get started:

#1) Help draft report to the Apache Board (see details in wiki -
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)

Lastly, Till we get wink-dev@ setup, please use gene...@incubator for
all communication and add a [Wink] in the subject for us to easily
find the emails.

Please let me know if you need more information. You may want to read
up more on the setup process etc here
(http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html)

thanks,
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Re: [Wink] Podling setup steps

2009-05-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
fyi, wink-dev@ / wink-commits@ / wink-private@ are in ready. Please
subscribe by sending one email each to wink-dev-subscribe@ /
wink-commits-subscribe@ / wink-private-subscribe@

thanks,
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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eli, Nick,

 #1) Created an svn area for Wink
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wink/

 #2) Requested Apache Infra to create mailing lists
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2068

 Can you please help with these tasks?

 #1) Make sure that everyone on the team has filled in their Individual CLA
 (See form at http://www.apache.org/licenses/). Once they filled it up
 and faxed it in, In a few days it will show up in Unlisted CLA's
 section here - http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html

 #2) Please fill up the CCLA (See form at
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/) one for each of your employer and fax
 it in.

 #3) Please send me the list of email id's and preferred id's (Apache
 ID for svn and email)  for each committer proposed in the Wink
 proposal. That will help me get the id's created for each of them

 #4) Please fill up a Software grant and fax it in
 (http://www.apache.org/licenses/)

 #5) Please ask everyone to create an id in JIRA and let me know what
 their JIRA id's are. I'll create the JIRA space when the mailing list
 gets created.

 Others Tasks that i need to do:

 #1) Get Wink listed under http://incubator.apache.org/projects/

 Tasks for later for the participants once we get started:

 #1) Help draft report to the Apache Board (see details in wiki -
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)

 Lastly, Till we get wink-dev@ setup, please use gene...@incubator for
 all communication and add a [Wink] in the subject for us to easily
 find the emails.

 Please let me know if you need more information. You may want to read
 up more on the setup process etc here
 (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html)

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