Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi,

Quick update on the proposal:

- even if it's only required for graduation, Michele triggered a name
search which has been approved. So we are good to move forward with
Apache OpenServerless as proposal name.
- we now have mentors and champion
- we had positive comments and feedback on the proposal

I'm now starting a formal vote to accept OpenServerless into the
Apache incubator.

Regards
JB

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:44 PM Michele Sciabarra  wrote:
>
> Hello all, what is next?
> We have the Champion and the mentors.
> Furthermore I opened a search to see if the name is suitable, although I do
> not see actions there.
> What is supposed to happen?
> According to the guidelines, after some time we can ask for a vote for the
> proposal and I do not see more discussion in this thread.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 at 13:47, Michele Sciabarra 
> wrote:
>
> > I followed the process described and opened the issue in the suitable name
> > search JIRA space.
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-222
> >
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:43, Francois Papon 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We need to ask for a search about the project name, more information
> >> about the naming process are available here:
> >>
> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> François
> >>
> >> On 27/05/2024 16:56, Michele Sciabarra wrote:
> >> > Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it
> >> is, I
> >> > will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
> >> > Francois as a mentor.
> >> >
> >> > I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
> >> >
> >> > I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
> >> > suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless
> >> Inc,
> >> > the makers of the Serverless Framework.
> >> >
> >> > What are the next steps?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >> >
> >> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> >> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> >> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> >> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> >> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> >> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> >> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks for the proposal.
> >> >> I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
> >> >>
> >> >> Enrico
> >> >>
> >> >> Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> >> >> scritto:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> >> >> repositories I
> >> >>> added more contribution graphs.
> >> >>> Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
> >> top
> >> >>> of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >> >>>
> >> >>> m: +44 747 984 8388
> >> >>> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> >> >>> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msc

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Hello all, what is next?
We have the Champion and the mentors.
Furthermore I opened a search to see if the name is suitable, although I do
not see actions there.
What is supposed to happen?
According to the guidelines, after some time we can ask for a vote for the
proposal and I do not see more discussion in this thread.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Thu, 30 May 2024 at 13:47, Michele Sciabarra 
wrote:

> I followed the process described and opened the issue in the suitable name
> search JIRA space.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-222
>
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:43, Francois Papon 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We need to ask for a search about the project name, more information
>> about the naming process are available here:
>>
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> François
>>
>> On 27/05/2024 16:56, Michele Sciabarra wrote:
>> > Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it
>> is, I
>> > will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
>> > Francois as a mentor.
>> >
>> > I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
>> >
>> > I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
>> > suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless
>> Inc,
>> > the makers of the Serverless Framework.
>> >
>> > What are the next steps?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>> >
>> > m: +44 747 984 8388
>> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
>> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
>> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
>> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
>> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
>> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the proposal.
>> >> I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
>> >>
>> >> Enrico
>> >>
>> >> Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
>> >> scritto:
>> >>
>> >>> Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
>> >> repositories I
>> >>> added more contribution graphs.
>> >>> Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
>> top
>> >>> of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>> >>>
>> >>> m: +44 747 984 8388
>> >>> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
>> >>> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
>> >>> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
>> >>> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
>> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
>> >>> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
>> >>> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache
>> Openwhisk.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Contribution Graphs:
>> >>>> https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> tison.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
>> >>>>
>> >>&

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 4:58 PM Michele Sciabarra  wrote:
> ...To my understanding, since there are other "serverless something"
> trademarks, "Apache OpenServerless" should be acceptable, but here we need
> support from trademark lawyers to be sure. So I opened the issue...

+1, it's good to select a good name now!

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Yes I understand that is not required, nonetheless changing name later is
not ideal.
I really love the name OpenServerless, but since there is a risk
Serverless.com may object (who trademarked the name "serverless") and
develop the serverless framework that is similar in scope, it is better to
know the potential issue in advance.

To my understanding, since there are other "serverless something"
trademarks, "Apache OpenServerless" should be acceptable, but here we need
support from trademark lawyers to be sure. So I opened the issue.



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On Thu, 30 May 2024 at 14:41, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:43 AM Francois Papon
>  wrote:
> > ...We need to ask for a search about the project name...
>
> That's a requirement for exiting incubation, not for entering it, as per
> [1] .
>
> But it's good to have a name that doesn't need to change later, so
> checking now doesn't hurt.
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:43 AM Francois Papon
 wrote:
> ...We need to ask for a search about the project name...

That's a requirement for exiting incubation, not for entering it, as per [1] .

But it's good to have a name that doesn't need to change later, so
checking now doesn't hurt.

-Bertrand

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

I followed the process described and opened the issue in the suitable name
search JIRA space.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-222



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e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
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On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:43, Francois Papon 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We need to ask for a search about the project name, more information
> about the naming process are available here:
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming
>
> regards,
>
> François
>
> On 27/05/2024 16:56, Michele Sciabarra wrote:
> > Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it
> is, I
> > will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
> > Francois as a mentor.
> >
> > I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
> >
> > I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
> > suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless
> Inc,
> > the makers of the Serverless Framework.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the proposal.
> >> I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
> >>
> >> Enrico
> >>
> >> Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> >> scritto:
> >>
> >>> Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> >> repositories I
> >>> added more contribution graphs.
> >>> Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
> top
> >>> of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >>>
> >>> m: +44 747 984 8388
> >>> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> >>> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> >>> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> >>> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> >>> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> >>> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Contribution Graphs:
> >>>> https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> tison.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> >>>>> suggested we just ask on the channel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you are available I will readily accept.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >>>>>
> >>>>> m: +44 747 984 8388
> >>>>> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> >>>>> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> >>>>> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> >>>>> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> >> icon]
> >>>>> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

I discussed Slack with both Jean Baptiste and Enrico and we agreed the
Champion will be Jean Baptiste. So I updated the proposal:
Champion:

   - Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbonofre AT apache.org

Nominated Mentors:

   - Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbonofre AT apache.org
   - Enrico Olivelli eolivelli AT apache.org
   - PJ Fanning fanningpj AT apache.org
   - François Papon fpapon AT apache.org
   - Bertrand Delacretaz   bdelacretaz AT apache.org


We are ready to move forward :)

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l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
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On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 16:53, tison  wrote:

> Generally we have one champion and this person drives your entering
> incubator. Later, there's no champion but all mentors.
>
> Thus, I don't think you need to make two champions.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra 于2024年5月27日 周一22:57写道：
>
> > Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it
> is, I
> > will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
> > Francois as a mentor.
> >
> > I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
> >
> > I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
> > suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless
> Inc,
> > the makers of the Serverless Framework.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > <
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/1209+Orange+Street+,+Wilmington+DE?entry=gmail=g
> >
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the proposal.
> > > I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> > > scritto:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> > > repositories I
> > > > added more contribution graphs.
> > > > Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
> > top
> > > > of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > >
> > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> icon]
> > > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache
> > Openwhisk.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Contribution Graphs:
> > > > > https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > tison.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico
> Olivelli
> > > > > > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are available I will rea
> > <
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E+If+you+are+available+I+will+rea?entry=gmail=g
> >dily
> > accept.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > > &g

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Francois Papon]

Hi,

We need to ask for a search about the project name, more information 
about the naming process are available here:


https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming

regards,

François

On 27/05/2024 16:56, Michele Sciabarra wrote:

Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it is, I
will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
Francois as a mentor.

I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.

I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless Inc,
the makers of the Serverless Framework.

What are the next steps?

Thanks!



Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli  wrote:


Thanks for the proposal.
I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion

Enrico

Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
scritto:


Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many

repositories I

added more contribution graphs.
Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on top
of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:


The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.


Contribution Graphs:

https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors

Best,
tison.


Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：


Hi Jean-Baptiste,

Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
suggested we just ask on the channel.

If you are available I will readily accept.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube

icon]

<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:


Hi Michele

I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several

other

Apache projects.

If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <

mich...@nuvolaris.io>

wrote:

Hi Apache Incubator members,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -

OpenServerless.

OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete

Serverless

platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,

PosgreSQL,

FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for

back-end

and

front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE

support,

tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and

Linux

distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).

Here is the proposal:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal

I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help

the

project

through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [

bdelacra...@apache.org

]

and

Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]

We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Ok I understand, I will discuss with Enrico and Jean Baptiste the best
course of action.

Michele Sciabarra | CEO

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On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 16:53, tison  wrote:

> Generally we have one champion and this person drives your entering
> incubator. Later, there's no champion but all mentors.
>
> Thus, I don't think you need to make two champions.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra 于2024年5月27日 周一22:57写道：
>
> > Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it
> is, I
> > will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
> > Francois as a mentor.
> >
> > I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
> >
> > I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
> > suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless
> Inc,
> > the makers of the Serverless Framework.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > <
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/1209+Orange+Street+,+Wilmington+DE?entry=gmail=g
> >
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the proposal.
> > > I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> > > scritto:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> > > repositories I
> > > > added more contribution graphs.
> > > > Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
> > top
> > > > of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > >
> > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> icon]
> > > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache
> > Openwhisk.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Contribution Graphs:
> > > > > https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > tison.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico
> Olivelli
> > > > > > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are available I will rea
> > <
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E+If+you+are+available+I+will+rea?entry=gmail=g
> >dily
> > accept.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > > > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > > > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > > > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> > > icon]
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[tison]

Generally we have one champion and this person drives your entering
incubator. Later, there's no champion but all mentors.

Thus, I don't think you need to make two champions.

Best,
tison.


Michele Sciabarra 于2024年5月27日 周一22:57写道：

> Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it is, I
> will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
> Francois as a mentor.
>
> I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.
>
> I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
> suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless Inc,
> the makers of the Serverless Framework.
>
> What are the next steps?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1209+Orange+Street+,+Wilmington+DE?entry=gmail=g>
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the proposal.
> > I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
> >
> > Enrico
> >
> > Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > > Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> > repositories I
> > > added more contribution graphs.
> > > Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on
> top
> > > of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > >
> > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache
> Openwhisk.
> > > >
> > > > > Contribution Graphs:
> > > > https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > tison.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> > > > > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are available I will rea
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E+If+you+are+available+I+will+rea?entry=gmail=g>dily
> accept.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > > >
> > > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> > icon]
> > > > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Michele
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several
> > > other
> > > > > > Apache projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks !
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > JB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <
> > > > mich...@nuvolaris.io>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Hello, I do not know if it is possible to have 2 champions, but if it is, I
will happily accept both Enrico and Jean-Baptise as Champions, and also
Francois as a mentor.

I updated the serverless proposal accordingly.

I would ask: how can we check if the OpenServerless project name is
suitable? Looks like the Serverless word is a trademark of Serverless Inc,
the makers of the Serverless Framework.

What are the next steps?

Thanks!



Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 13:10, Enrico Olivelli  wrote:

> Thanks for the proposal.
> I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion
>
> Enrico
>
> Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
> scritto:
>
> > Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many
> repositories I
> > added more contribution graphs.
> > Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on top
> > of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
> >
> > > The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.
> > >
> > > > Contribution Graphs:
> > > https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> > > > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> > > >
> > > > If you are available I will readily accept.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > > >
> > > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube
> icon]
> > > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Michele
> > > > >
> > > > > I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several
> > other
> > > > > Apache projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks !
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > JB
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <
> > > mich...@nuvolaris.io>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > > > > OpenServerless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete
> > > Serverless
> > > > > > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> > > > > PosgreSQL,
> > > > > > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for
> back-end
> > > and
> > > > > > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE
> > > > support,
> > > > > > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and
> Linux
> > > > > > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the proposal:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help
> the
> > > > > project
> > > > > > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [
> > > bdelacra...@apache.org
> > > > ]
> > > > > and
> > > > > > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[fpapon]

Hi,

This project looks very interesting and I will be happy to help also as 
mentor if needed.


regards,

François

On 27/05/2024 14:10, Enrico Olivelli wrote:

Thanks for the proposal.
I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion

Enrico

Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
scritto:


Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many repositories I
added more contribution graphs.
Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on top
of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:


The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.


Contribution Graphs:

https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors

Best,
tison.


Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：


Hi Jean-Baptiste,

Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
suggested we just ask on the channel.

If you are available I will readily accept.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:


Hi Michele

I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several

other

Apache projects.

If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <

mich...@nuvolaris.io>

wrote:

Hi Apache Incubator members,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -

OpenServerless.

OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete

Serverless

platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,

PosgreSQL,

FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end

and

front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE

support,

tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).

Here is the proposal:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal

I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the

project

through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [

bdelacra...@apache.org

]

and

Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]

We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Enrico Olivelli]

Thanks for the proposal.
I confirm that I will be happy to help as mentor and champion

Enrico

Il Lun 27 Mag 2024, 11:45 Michele Sciabarra  ha
scritto:

> Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many repositories I
> added more contribution graphs.
> Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on top
> of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:
>
> > The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.
> >
> > > Contribution Graphs:
> > https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
> >
> > > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> > >
> > > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> > > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> > >
> > > If you are available I will readily accept.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> > >
> > > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Michele
> > > >
> > > > I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several
> other
> > > > Apache projects.
> > > >
> > > > If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks !
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <
> > mich...@nuvolaris.io>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > > > OpenServerless.
> > > > >
> > > > > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete
> > Serverless
> > > > > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> > > > PosgreSQL,
> > > > > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end
> > and
> > > > > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE
> > > support,
> > > > > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > > > > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the proposal:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > > project
> > > > > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [
> > bdelacra...@apache.org
> > > ]
> > > > and
> > > > > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> > > > >
> > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Thanks, I fixed it. Also since the code is spread among many repositories I
added more contribution graphs.
Also I thought it worth to mention the project "Fantacalcio" built on top
of  Nuvolaris  with many contributors.


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m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
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On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 10:36, tison  wrote:

> The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.
>
> > Contribution Graphs:
> https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：
>
> > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> >
> > Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> > suggested we just ask on the channel.
> >
> > If you are available I will readily accept.
> >
> >
> > Michele Sciabarra | CEO
> >
> > m: +44 747 984 8388
> > e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> > l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> > Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> > www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> > <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> > <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michele
> > >
> > > I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several other
> > > Apache projects.
> > >
> > > If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
> > >
> > > Thanks !
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra <
> mich...@nuvolaris.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > > OpenServerless.
> > > >
> > > > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete
> Serverless
> > > > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> > > PosgreSQL,
> > > > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end
> and
> > > > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE
> > support,
> > > > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > > > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> > > >
> > > > Here is the proposal:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> > > >
> > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > project
> > > > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [
> bdelacra...@apache.org
> > ]
> > > and
> > > > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> > > >
> > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
> > >
> > > -
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[tison]

The contributor graph link seems incorrectly link to Apache Openwhisk.

> Contribution Graphs:
https://github.com/openwhisk/openwhisk/graphs/contributors

Best,
tison.


Michele Sciabarra  于2024年5月27日周一 17:28写道：

> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
>
> Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
> suggested we just ask on the channel.
>
> If you are available I will readily accept.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Michele
> >
> > I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several other
> > Apache projects.
> >
> > If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > OpenServerless.
> > >
> > > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> > > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> > PosgreSQL,
> > > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> > > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE
> support,
> > > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> > >
> > > Here is the proposal:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> > >
> > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > project
> > > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org
> ]
> > and
> > > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> > >
> > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > >
> > > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Hi Jean-Baptiste,

Yes, we are looking for a champion, and our mentor Enrico Olivelli
suggested we just ask on the channel.

If you are available I will readily accept.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 09:33, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

> Hi Michele
>
> I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several other
> Apache projects.
>
> If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> OpenServerless.
> >
> > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> PosgreSQL,
> > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
> > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> >
> > Here is the proposal:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> project
> > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org]
> and
> > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi Michele

I like the proposal, especially by the relationship with several other
Apache projects.

If you look for a champion, please let me know if I can help.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 9:50 PM Michele Sciabarra  wrote:
>
> Hi Apache Incubator members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OpenServerless.
>
> OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis, PosgreSQL,
> FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
> tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
>
> Here is the proposal:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org] and
> Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[PJ Fanning]

I've moved the page to appear under the main Proposals page.

The champion needs to be an Apache member or an officer (e.g. a PMC
chair of an existing project).

https://incubator.apache.org/guides/roles_and_responsibilities.html#champion



On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 22:48, Michele Sciabarra  wrote:
>
> Hi PJ,
>
> Thank you a lot for fixing the urls. Can you also move the page under the
> proposals? I am unable to do so, so it is under "New Podling Proposal"
> instead of being under "Proposals".
>
> I was confused by the text that the Champion is also the mentor but I
> missed the requirement that a mentor should be PMC of the Incubator. If you
> are willing to be our mentor I will happily accept your proposal. I just
> edited the proposal adding you and removing me as a mentor.
>
>
> Michele Sciabarra | CEO
>
> m: +44 747 984 8388
> e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
> l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
> Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
> www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
> <http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
> <https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 21:09, PJ Fanning  wrote:
>
> > Hi Michele,
> >
> > Your proposal looks good on an initial read. I spotted a few small items.
> > * The proposal had some accidental links to gihub.com which is a
> > phishing site that my anti-virus software blocks. I updated the
> > proposal to remove the links that I found.
> > * mentors need to be members of the Incubator PMC and you do not
> > appear to be a member - maybe you could find some other mentors from
> > the existing PMC membership - I can volunteer if you are short
> > * with the mailing lists, you don't need to include the 'incubator'
> > part in the name
> >
> > Regards,
> > PJ
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 20:51, Michele Sciabarra 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > OpenServerless.
> > >
> > > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> > > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> > PosgreSQL,
> > > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> > > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
> > > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> > >
> > > Here is the proposal:
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> > >
> > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > project
> > > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org]
> > and
> > > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> > >
> > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > >
> > > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
> >
> > -
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> >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Hi PJ,

Thank you a lot for fixing the urls. Can you also move the page under the
proposals? I am unable to do so, so it is under "New Podling Proposal"
instead of being under "Proposals".

I was confused by the text that the Champion is also the mentor but I
missed the requirement that a mentor should be PMC of the Incubator. If you
are willing to be our mentor I will happily accept your proposal. I just
edited the proposal adding you and removing me as a mentor.


Michele Sciabarra | CEO

m: +44 747 984 8388
e:  mich...@nuvolaris.io
l:   https://linkedin.com/in/msciab
Nuvolaris Inc | 1209 Orange Street , Wilmington DE
www.nuvolaris.io   [image: linkedin icon]
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/nuvolaris-io> [image: youtube icon]
<http://bit.ly/nuvtube> [image: twitter icon]
<https://twitter.com/NuvolarisIo>


On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 21:09, PJ Fanning  wrote:

> Hi Michele,
>
> Your proposal looks good on an initial read. I spotted a few small items.
> * The proposal had some accidental links to gihub.com which is a
> phishing site that my anti-virus software blocks. I updated the
> proposal to remove the links that I found.
> * mentors need to be members of the Incubator PMC and you do not
> appear to be a member - maybe you could find some other mentors from
> the existing PMC membership - I can volunteer if you are short
> * with the mailing lists, you don't need to include the 'incubator'
> part in the name
>
> Regards,
> PJ
>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 20:51, Michele Sciabarra 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Apache Incubator members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> OpenServerless.
> >
> > OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> > platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis,
> PosgreSQL,
> > FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> > front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
> > tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> > distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
> >
> > Here is the proposal:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> project
> > through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org]
> and
> > Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io
>
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>

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[PJ Fanning]

Hi Michele,

Your proposal looks good on an initial read. I spotted a few small items.
* The proposal had some accidental links to gihub.com which is a
phishing site that my anti-virus software blocks. I updated the
proposal to remove the links that I found.
* mentors need to be members of the Incubator PMC and you do not
appear to be a member - maybe you could find some other mentors from
the existing PMC membership - I can volunteer if you are short
* with the mailing lists, you don't need to include the 'incubator'
part in the name

Regards,
PJ



On Sun, 26 May 2024 at 20:51, Michele Sciabarra  wrote:
>
> Hi Apache Incubator members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OpenServerless.
>
> OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
> platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis, PosgreSQL,
> FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
> front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
> tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
> distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).
>
> Here is the proposal:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org] and
> Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> [1] https://nuvolaris.github.io

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[DISCUSS] OpenServerless Proposal to the incubator

[Michele Sciabarra]

Hi Apache Incubator members,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - OpenServerless.

OpenServerless (currently Nuvolaris Community) is a complete Serverless
platform for Kubernetes built on top of Apache OpenWhisk, Redis, PosgreSQL,
FerredDB, Minio, APISIX and Ollama, providing support for back-end and
front-end, with a rich CLI, including development tools and IDE support,
tested on all the leading cloud kubernetes (EKS,AKS,GKE) and Linux
distributions (OpenShift, MicroK8S, K3S).

Here is the proposal:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OpenServerlessProposal

I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
through the incubator with Bertrand Delacratez [bdelacra...@apache.org] and
Enrico Olivelli [eolive...@apache.org]

We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.

[1] https://nuvolaris.github.io

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Sheng, thanks for pointing that, we have removed it.

On 2024/03/26 08:53:50 Sheng Wu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At the bottom of the website, the link to Dromara 知识星球, seems to be a
> commercial channel.
> Please consider to remove that. ASF is a vendor neutral org, you should not
> charge for end users or vendors.
> 
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> 
> Apache SkyWalking
> Twitter, wusheng1108
> 
> 
> Chao Gong 于2024年3月26日 周二16:21写道：
> 
> > Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website.
> > Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat
> > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/.
> >
> > On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote:
> > > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing
> > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g.
> > in README.md)?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Twice
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Chao Gong 
> > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org 
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> > > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> > > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> > > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> > > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> > > > will face after you donate your company core project to a
> > > > vendor-neutral foundation.
> > > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> > > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> > > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> > > > Think deeply.
> > > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> > > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> > > > startup.
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > > Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > > >
> > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains
> > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code,
> > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single
> > repository.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as
> > Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish
> > it from Hertzbeat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to
> > build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will
> > ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project
> > to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands,
> > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred
> > to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that
> > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be
> > patient in participating in incubation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe
> > it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > > I have more questions around this project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is
> > the
> > > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs
> > go?

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

Hi,

At the bottom of the website, the link to Dromara 知识星球, seems to be a
commercial channel.
Please consider to remove that. ASF is a vendor neutral org, you should not
charge for end users or vendors.

Sheng Wu 吴晟

Apache SkyWalking
Twitter, wusheng1108


Chao Gong 于2024年3月26日 周二16:21写道：

> Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website.
> Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat
> https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/.
>
> On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote:
> > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing
> advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g.
> in README.md)?
> >
> > Best,
> > Twice
> >
> > 
> > From: Chao Gong 
> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
> >
> > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Tom
> >
> > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> > > will face after you donate your company core project to a
> > > vendor-neutral foundation.
> > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> > > Think deeply.
> > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> > > startup.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Sheng,
> > > >
> > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains
> documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code,
> frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single
> repository.
> > > >
> > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as
> Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish
> it from Hertzbeat.
> > > >
> > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to
> build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will
> ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project
> to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands,
> logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> > > >
> > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred
> to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that
> may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be
> patient in participating in incubation.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe
> it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > > I have more questions around this project.
> > > > >
> > > > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is
> the
> > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs
> go?
> > > > >
> > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content,
> page
> > > > > style, etc.
> > > > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally
> fine
> > > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts
> in
> > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website. Please 
see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat  https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/.   

On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote:
> Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing 
> advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in 
> README.md)?
> 
> Best,
> Twice
> 
> 
> From: Chao Gong 
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
> 
> Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Tom
> 
> On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> > time.
> >
> > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> > will face after you donate your company core project to a
> > vendor-neutral foundation.
> > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> > Think deeply.
> > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> > startup.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> > Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Sheng,
> > >
> > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> > > repository.
> > >
> > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We 
> > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from 
> > > Hertzbeat.
> > >
> > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build 
> > > SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure 
> > > that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to 
> > > the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, 
> > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> > >
> > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> > >
> > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to 
> > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that 
> > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be 
> > > patient in participating in incubation.
> > >
> > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > I have more questions around this project.
> > > >
> > > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > > >
> > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > > style, etc.
> > > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > > the future.
> > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > > >
> > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > > Will the company OK to say

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Zhang Yonglun]

Hi Francis,

Thank you very much for reaching out and offering to mentor our
project. It's truly an honor to receive support from someone as
experienced and knowledgeable as yourself.

I have updated the proposal to include your name in the mentor list.

Once again, thank you for your willingness to support our project. We
look forward to working with you closely.

--

Zhang Yonglun
Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere

Francis Chuang  于2024年3月25日周一 12:06写道：
>
> Hello Yonglun,
>
> My name is Francis Chuang. I am on the PMC of Apache Calcite and have
> been involved with the project for many years.
>
> I mostly write code in Go and am very interested in APM and
> OpenTelemetry. I have been following this thread and the discussion of
> your proposal and it looks quite interesting and compelling.
>
> I am happy to be a mentor for your project, if you're interested.
>
> Best,
> Francis
>
> On 25/03/2024 3:00 pm, Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your
> > insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement
> > efforts.
> >
> > Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives.
> > However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is
> > interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance.
> >
> > Thank you all for your patience and support.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Zhang Yonglun
> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> >
> > Zhang Yonglun  于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道：
> >>
> >> Hi IPMC members,
> >>
> >> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> >>
> >> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> >> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> >> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> >> and status page building capabilities.
> >>
> >> Here is the proposal -
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> >>
> >> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> >> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> >> (jmcl...@apache.org).
> >>
> >> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >>
> >> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Zhang Yonglun
> >> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Francis Chuang]

Hello Yonglun,

My name is Francis Chuang. I am on the PMC of Apache Calcite and have 
been involved with the project for many years.


I mostly write code in Go and am very interested in APM and 
OpenTelemetry. I have been following this thread and the discussion of 
your proposal and it looks quite interesting and compelling.


I am happy to be a mentor for your project, if you're interested.

Best,
Francis

On 25/03/2024 3:00 pm, Zhang Yonglun wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your
insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement
efforts.

Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives.
However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is
interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance.

Thank you all for your patience and support.

--

Zhang Yonglun
Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere

Zhang Yonglun  于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道：


Hi IPMC members,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.

HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
and status page building capabilities.

Here is the proposal -
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal

I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
(jmcl...@apache.org).

We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.

[1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/

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Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere


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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Zhang Yonglun]

Hi,

Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your
insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement
efforts.

Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives.
However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is
interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance.

Thank you all for your patience and support.

--

Zhang Yonglun
Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere

Zhang Yonglun  于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道：
>
> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
>
> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> and status page building capabilities.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> (jmcl...@apache.org).
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
>
> --
>
> Zhang Yonglun
> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere

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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Twice,

Thanks for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
We will remove the ads, including tancloud, subject to the foundation’s rules. 

Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote:
> Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing 
> advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in 
> README.md)?
> 
> Best,
> Twice
> 
> 
> From: Chao Gong 
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
> 
> Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Tom
> 
> On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> > time.
> >
> > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> > will face after you donate your company core project to a
> > vendor-neutral foundation.
> > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> > Think deeply.
> > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> > startup.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> > Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Sheng,
> > >
> > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> > > repository.
> > >
> > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We 
> > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from 
> > > Hertzbeat.
> > >
> > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build 
> > > SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure 
> > > that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to 
> > > the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, 
> > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> > >
> > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> > >
> > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to 
> > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that 
> > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be 
> > > patient in participating in incubation.
> > >
> > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > I have more questions around this project.
> > > >
> > > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > > >
> > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > > style, etc.
> > > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > > the future.
> > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > > >
> > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > > Will the company OK to

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Twice Pragma]

Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing 
advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in 
README.md)?

Best,
Twice


From: Chao Gong 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.



Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> time.
>
> Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> will face after you donate your company core project to a
> vendor-neutral foundation.
> Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> Think deeply.
> Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> startup.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
>
> >
> > Hi Sheng,
> >
> > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> > repository.
> >
> > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We 
> > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from 
> > Hertzbeat.
> >
> > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. 
> > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that 
> > the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the 
> > foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, 
> > and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> >
> > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> >
> > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to 
> > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may 
> > change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be 
> > patient in participating in incubation.
> >
> > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Tom
> >
> > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > I have more questions around this project.
> > >
> > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > >
> > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > style, etc.
> > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > the future.
> > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > >
> > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> > > TanCloud do.
> > >
> > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> > > legal part?
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu  于2024年3月17日周日 

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.



Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> time.
> 
> Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> will face after you donate your company core project to a
> vendor-neutral foundation.
> Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> Think deeply.
> Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> startup.
> 
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
> 
> Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
> 
> >
> > Hi Sheng,
> >
> > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> > repository.
> >
> > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We 
> > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from 
> > Hertzbeat.
> >
> > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. 
> > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that 
> > the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the 
> > foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, 
> > and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> >
> > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> >
> > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to 
> > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may 
> > change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be 
> > patient in participating in incubation.
> >
> > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Tom
> >
> > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > I have more questions around this project.
> > >
> > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > >
> > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > style, etc.
> > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > the future.
> > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > >
> > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> > > TanCloud do.
> > >
> > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> > > legal part?
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu  于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道：
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
> > > >>
> > > >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
time.

Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
will face after you donate your company core project to a
vendor-neutral foundation.
Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
Think deeply.
Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
startup.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：

>
> Hi Sheng,
>
> The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> repository.
>
> As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We will 
> rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from Hertzbeat.
>
> Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. 
> This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that the 
> vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the foundation. 
> Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, and other 
> elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
>
> We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
>
> Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to other 
> incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may change 
> depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be patient in 
> participating in incubation.
>
> Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
> On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > I have more questions around this project.
> >
> > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> >
> > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > style, etc.
> > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > the future.
> > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> >
> > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> > TanCloud do.
> >
> > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> > legal part?
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> > Sheng Wu  于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道：
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：
> > >>
> > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
> > >>
> > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate 
> > >> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community 
> > >> organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the 
> > >> copyright of projects.
> > >>
> > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the 
> > >> requirements of the incubator.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. 
> > > The foundation is 

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Sheng,

The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains documentation 
code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, frontend, backend, and 
official website are housed within this single repository.

As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We will 
rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from Hertzbeat.

Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. 
This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that the 
vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the foundation. 
Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, and other elements 
of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.

We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.

Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to other 
incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may change 
depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be patient in 
participating in incubation.

Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.

Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> I have more questions around this project.
> 
> I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> 
> With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> style, etc.
> Who will be the owner of those pages?
> From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> the future.
> But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> rebuild their home page before the donation?
> 
> I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> TanCloud do.
> 
> Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> legal part?
> 
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
> 
> Sheng Wu  于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道：
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：
> >>
> >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
> >>
> >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate 
> >> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized 
> >> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright 
> >> of projects.
> >>
> >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the 
> >> requirements of the incubator.
> >
> >
> > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The 
> > foundation is vendor neutral.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> >> > Hi IPMC members,
> >> >
> >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> >> >
> >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> >> > and status page building capabilities.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the proposal -
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> >> >
> >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the 
> >> > project
> >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> >> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
> >> >
> >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Zhang Yonglun
> >> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

I have more questions around this project.

I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?

With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
style, etc.
Who will be the owner of those pages?
>From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
the future.
But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
rebuild their home page before the donation?

I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
TanCloud do.

Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
legal part?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

Sheng Wu  于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道：
>
>
>
>
> Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：
>>
>> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
>>
>> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate 
>> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized 
>> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of 
>> projects.
>>
>> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the 
>> requirements of the incubator.
>
>
> Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The 
> foundation is vendor neutral.
>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Tom
>>
>> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
>> > Hi IPMC members,
>> >
>> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
>> >
>> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
>> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
>> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
>> > and status page building capabilities.
>> >
>> > Here is the proposal -
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
>> >
>> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
>> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
>> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
>> >
>> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>> >
>> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Zhang Yonglun
>> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
>> >
>> > -
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：

> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
>
> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
>
> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate
> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized
> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of
> projects.
>
> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the
> requirements of the incubator.


Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The
foundation is vendor neutral.


>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> > Hi IPMC members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> >
> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> > and status page building capabilities.
> >
> > Here is the proposal -
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> project
> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> >
> > --
> >
> > Zhang Yonglun
> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> >
> > -
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

We also need a update about salaried developers and current deserve status
as this is mostly a vendor project, we hope the project owners could
provide honest status.
You don't need to worry about we don't have many developers, that is the
purpose of the incubating. And I want to ask, why do you set up the period
of estimated incubating is 1 year. 1 year is a short time, and most of you
are not that experienced about ASF.
I would like to ask you to be patient and learn slowly.

Sheng Wu 吴晟

Apache SkyWalking
Twitter, wusheng1108


Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：

> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
>
> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
>
> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate
> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized
> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of
> projects.
>
> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the
> requirements of the incubator.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> > Hi IPMC members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> >
> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> > and status page building capabilities.
> >
> > Here is the proposal -
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> project
> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> >
> > --
> >
> > Zhang Yonglun
> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> >
> > -
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,

Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.

Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate that 
TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized by a 
group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of projects.

We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the 
requirements of the incubator.

Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> Hi IPMC members,
> 
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> 
> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> and status page building capabilities.
> 
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> 
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> (jmcl...@apache.org).
> 
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> 
> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> 
> --
> 
> Zhang Yonglun
> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Xuanwo]

I have the similiar questions as Sheng Wu.

Based on the page at https://gitee.com/dromara:

> 所有捐赠给 Dromara 社区的项目均保留原有项目的所有权利及商业化行为

which can translated as:

> All projects donated to the Dromara community retain all rights and 
> commercialization of the original project.

I'm unsure about the copyright details inside, so I'd like to inquire: Will 
TanCloud submit a SGA or CCLA for this project? Is this company ready for this?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, at 12:04, Sheng Wu wrote:
> I did a simple review on the docs page of this project.
>
> The documents include a lot of parts leading user for TanCloud Inc.
> cloud service and their social connection platforms.
> Such as
> - Vendor Cloud SAAS, https://console.tancloud.cn/passport/login
> - https://console.tancloud.cn/
> - https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat?tab=readme-ov-file#-join-discussion
> - Bilibili page is owned by an individual.
>
> Is this company good to remove all these information and transfer the
> ownership to the foundation and trademark?
>
> I can see the company owned this project, as LICENSE/NOTICE says so
> from https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat/blob/master/NOTICE
>> Copyright https://www.hertzbeat.com https://www.tancloud.cn  All Rights 
>> Reserved.
>
> And in the proposal, it never mentioned there is developers paid by
> TanCloud, is that correct? I doubt on this.
>
> What is the relationship between dromara org, TanCloud, and the project?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 10:31写道：
>>
>> Hi Fanning, Dave
>>
>> I am tom from hertzbeat community.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat.
>>
>> We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered 
>> using this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry.
>>
>> Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there 
>> is a clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of 
>> trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, 
>> but also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency
>>
>> We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The 
>> hertz trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, 
>> hertzstuck, nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz 
>> do not conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat?
>>
>> For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole 
>> in future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly 
>> distinguish it in materials such as logos.
>>
>> We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known 
>> and loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. 
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Tom
>>
>> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
>> > Hi IPMC members,
>> >
>> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
>> >
>> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
>> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
>> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
>> > and status page building capabilities.
>> >
>> > Here is the proposal -
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
>> >
>> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
>> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
>> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
>> >
>> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>> >
>> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
>> >
>> > --
>> >
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>> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
>> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Sheng Wu]

I did a simple review on the docs page of this project.

The documents include a lot of parts leading user for TanCloud Inc.
cloud service and their social connection platforms.
Such as
- Vendor Cloud SAAS, https://console.tancloud.cn/passport/login
- https://console.tancloud.cn/
- https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat?tab=readme-ov-file#-join-discussion
- Bilibili page is owned by an individual.

Is this company good to remove all these information and transfer the
ownership to the foundation and trademark?

I can see the company owned this project, as LICENSE/NOTICE says so
from https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat/blob/master/NOTICE
> Copyright https://www.hertzbeat.com https://www.tancloud.cn  All Rights 
> Reserved.

And in the proposal, it never mentioned there is developers paid by
TanCloud, is that correct? I doubt on this.

What is the relationship between dromara org, TanCloud, and the project?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

Chao Gong  于2024年3月17日周日 10:31写道：
>
> Hi Fanning, Dave
>
> I am tom from hertzbeat community.
>
> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat.
>
> We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered 
> using this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry.
>
> Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there is 
> a clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of 
> trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, 
> but also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency
>
> We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The 
> hertz trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, 
> hertzstuck, nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz 
> do not conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat?
>
> For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole 
> in future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly 
> distinguish it in materials such as logos.
>
> We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known 
> and loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. 
> Thanks!
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> > Hi IPMC members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> >
> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> > and status page building capabilities.
> >
> > Here is the proposal -
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Chao Gong]

Hi Fanning, Dave

I am tom from hertzbeat community.

Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat.

We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered using 
this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry. 

Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there is a 
clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of 
trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, but 
also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency

We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The hertz 
trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, hertzstuck, 
nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz do not 
conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat? 

For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole in 
future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly 
distinguish it in materials such as logos.

We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known and 
loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. Thanks!

Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> Hi IPMC members,
> 
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
> 
> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> and status page building capabilities.
> 
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> 
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> (jmcl...@apache.org).
> 
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> 
> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> 
> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It’s not a branding conflict unless Hertz has a trademark in class 9.

The champion or mentors could do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and see what VP, Brand 
thinks.

After all hertz is a well known unit of measure: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz

Best,
Dave

> On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:51 AM, PJ Fanning  wrote:
> 
> Would there be any chance that you could reconsider the name? Hertz is
> a very well known international car rental brand.
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 14:24, Zhang Yonglun  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi IPMC members,
>> 
>> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
>> 
>> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
>> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
>> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
>> and status page building capabilities.
>> 
>> Here is the proposal -
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
>> 
>> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
>> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
>> (jmcl...@apache.org).
>> 
>> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>> 
>> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
>> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[PJ Fanning]

Would there be any chance that you could reconsider the name? Hertz is
a very well known international car rental brand.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 14:24, Zhang Yonglun  wrote:
>
> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.
>
> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
> and status page building capabilities.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
> (jmcl...@apache.org).
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
>
> --
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[DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat

[Zhang Yonglun]

Hi IPMC members,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat.

HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring
and status page building capabilities.

Here is the proposal -
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal

I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean
(jmcl...@apache.org).

We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.

[1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/

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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[P. Taylor Goetz]

I would definitely vote +1 (binding) on this proposal..

StormCrawleer has had, and likely will continue to have, a very positive impact 
on the Apache Storm project and community.

The listed mentors and initial contributors all seem to have considerable 
Apache experience, and earned have my trust and, more importantly, that of the 
community. The Apache Storm project recently had a brush with the Antic, and it 
was largely the contributors listed in this proposal who stepped up to keep the 
project active.

There would undoubtedly be a symbiotic relationship between the two projects.

While I don’t currently have the bandwidth to mentor the project, I trust the 
proposed mentors, initial committers,  and mentor volunteers. I would 
definitely monitor the community and would certainly step in if I saw anything 
run atstray. 

- Taylor (Former VP, Apache Storm)



> On Mar 3, 2024, at 6:24 PM, PJ Fanning  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> 
> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> 
> Proposal
> 
> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> 
> * scalable
> * resilient
> * low latency
> * easy to extend
> * polite yet efficient
> 
> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> 
> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> organisations world-wide.
> 
> Initial Committers
> 
> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> 
> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> Apache Way.
> 
> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> 
> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> 
> Thanks,
> PJ
> 
> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> [2] 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[PJ Fanning]

Thanks Ayush. We could certainly do with another experienced mentor.
I've added you to the mentor list in the proposal.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 10:19, Ayush Saxena  wrote:
>
> +1 (Binding)
> I can volunteer as an additional mentor if needed.
>
> -Ayush
>
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 02:43, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> > There are options. I helped establish ASF Pelican by converting the main
> > ASF website from the Apache CMS. See GitHub.com/apache/www-site/. I don’t
> > think it needs to be decided in the proposal. It can be decided at he
> > beginning of Incubation.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Mar 7, 2024, at 1:37 PM, tison  wrote:
> > >
> > > A minor comment:
> > >
> > >> We are planning to build the https://stormcrawler.apache.org website
> > with Jekyll, maybe based on
> > https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template.
> > >
> > > This branch is unmaintained for years (although some volunteers show
> > > their interests, there is no move so far) and you may encounter many
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > I suggest you use Fury site as a template (PJ is also a mentor of
> > > Fury) and adjust to your content. I'm also working on a Docusaurus
> > > based website template [1] recently.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/tree/docusaurus
> > >
> > > PJ Fanning  于2024年3月8日周五 02:29写道：
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Lewis. It would be great if you can act as a menot. I will
> > >> update the proposal to add you to the mentor list.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 19:09, Lewis John McGibbney 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator.
> > >>> If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy
> > to chip in.
> > >>> lewismc
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
> > >>>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator
> > project,
> > >>>> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> > >>>> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Proposal
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * scalable
> > >>>> * resilient
> > >>>> * low latency
> > >>>> * easy to extend
> > >>>> * polite yet efficient
> > >>>>
> > >>>> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> > >>>> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> > >>>> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> > >>>> organisations world-wide.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Initial Committers
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> > >>>> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel
> > ]
> > >>>> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> > >>>> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> > >>>> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> > >>>> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> > >>>> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> > >>>> Apache Way.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> > >>>> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> PJ
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-cr

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[Ayush Saxena]

+1 (Binding)
I can volunteer as an additional mentor if needed.

-Ayush

On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 02:43, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> There are options. I helped establish ASF Pelican by converting the main
> ASF website from the Apache CMS. See GitHub.com/apache/www-site/. I don’t
> think it needs to be decided in the proposal. It can be decided at he
> beginning of Incubation.
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> > On Mar 7, 2024, at 1:37 PM, tison  wrote:
> >
> > A minor comment:
> >
> >> We are planning to build the https://stormcrawler.apache.org website
> with Jekyll, maybe based on
> https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template.
> >
> > This branch is unmaintained for years (although some volunteers show
> > their interests, there is no move so far) and you may encounter many
> > issues.
> >
> > I suggest you use Fury site as a template (PJ is also a mentor of
> > Fury) and adjust to your content. I'm also working on a Docusaurus
> > based website template [1] recently.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/tree/docusaurus
> >
> > PJ Fanning  于2024年3月8日周五 02:29写道：
> >>
> >> Thanks Lewis. It would be great if you can act as a menot. I will
> >> update the proposal to add you to the mentor list.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 19:09, Lewis John McGibbney 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator.
> >>> If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy
> to chip in.
> >>> lewismc
> >>>
> >>> On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator
> project,
> >>>> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> >>>>
> >>>> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> >>>> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> >>>>
> >>>> Proposal
> >>>>
> >>>> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> >>>>
> >>>> * scalable
> >>>> * resilient
> >>>> * low latency
> >>>> * easy to extend
> >>>> * polite yet efficient
> >>>>
> >>>> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> >>>> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> >>>> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> >>>>
> >>>> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> >>>> organisations world-wide.
> >>>>
> >>>> Initial Committers
> >>>>
> >>>> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> >>>> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel
> ]
> >>>> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> >>>> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> >>>> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> >>>> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> >>>> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> >>>> Apache Way.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> >>>> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> PJ
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> >>>> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[Dave Fisher]

There are options. I helped establish ASF Pelican by converting the main ASF 
website from the Apache CMS. See GitHub.com/apache/www-site/. I don’t think it 
needs to be decided in the proposal. It can be decided at he beginning of 
Incubation.

Best,
Dave

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 1:37 PM, tison  wrote:
> 
> A minor comment:
> 
>> We are planning to build the https://stormcrawler.apache.org website with 
>> Jekyll, maybe based on https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template.
> 
> This branch is unmaintained for years (although some volunteers show
> their interests, there is no move so far) and you may encounter many
> issues.
> 
> I suggest you use Fury site as a template (PJ is also a mentor of
> Fury) and adjust to your content. I'm also working on a Docusaurus
> based website template [1] recently.
> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/tree/docusaurus
> 
> PJ Fanning  于2024年3月8日周五 02:29写道：
>> 
>> Thanks Lewis. It would be great if you can act as a menot. I will
>> update the proposal to add you to the mentor list.
>> 
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 19:09, Lewis John McGibbney  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator.
>>> If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy to 
>>> chip in.
>>> lewismc
>>> 
>>> On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
>>>> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
>>>> 
>>>> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
>>>> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
>>>> 
>>>> Proposal
>>>> 
>>>> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
>>>> 
>>>> * scalable
>>>> * resilient
>>>> * low latency
>>>> * easy to extend
>>>> * polite yet efficient
>>>> 
>>>> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
>>>> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
>>>> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
>>>> 
>>>> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
>>>> organisations world-wide.
>>>> 
>>>> Initial Committers
>>>> 
>>>> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
>>>> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
>>>> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
>>>> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
>>>> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
>>>> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
>>>> 
>>>> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
>>>> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
>>>> Apache Way.
>>>> 
>>>> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
>>>> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
>>>> 
>>>> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> PJ
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
>>>> [2] 
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[tison]

A minor comment:

> We are planning to build the https://stormcrawler.apache.org website with 
> Jekyll, maybe based on https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template.

This branch is unmaintained for years (although some volunteers show
their interests, there is no move so far) and you may encounter many
issues.

I suggest you use Fury site as a template (PJ is also a mentor of
Fury) and adjust to your content. I'm also working on a Docusaurus
based website template [1] recently.

Best,
tison.

[1] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/tree/docusaurus

PJ Fanning  于2024年3月8日周五 02:29写道：
>
> Thanks Lewis. It would be great if you can act as a menot. I will
> update the proposal to add you to the mentor list.
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 19:09, Lewis John McGibbney  wrote:
> >
> > I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator.
> > If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy to 
> > chip in.
> > lewismc
> >
> > On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator 
> > > project,
> > > and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> > >
> > > StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> > > customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> > >
> > > Proposal
> > >
> > > The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> > >
> > > * scalable
> > > * resilient
> > > * low latency
> > > * easy to extend
> > > * polite yet efficient
> > >
> > > StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> > > on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> > > Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> > >
> > > StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> > > organisations world-wide.
> > >
> > > Initial Committers
> > >
> > > Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> > > Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
> > > Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> > > Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> > > Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> > > https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> > >
> > > Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> > > committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> > > Apache Way.
> > >
> > > I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> > > additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > PJ
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> > > [2] 
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[PJ Fanning]

Thanks Lewis. It would be great if you can act as a menot. I will
update the proposal to add you to the mentor list.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 19:09, Lewis John McGibbney  wrote:
>
> I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator.
> If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy to chip 
> in.
> lewismc
>
> On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
> > and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> >
> > StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> > customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> >
> > Proposal
> >
> > The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> >
> > * scalable
> > * resilient
> > * low latency
> > * easy to extend
> > * polite yet efficient
> >
> > StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> > on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> > Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> >
> > StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> > organisations world-wide.
> >
> > Initial Committers
> >
> > Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> > Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
> > Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> > Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> > Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> > https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> >
> > Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> > committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> > Apache Way.
> >
> > I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> > additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> >
> > We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > PJ
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> > [2] 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[Lewis John McGibbney]

I think StromCrawler would be an excellent candidate for the Incubator. 
If the podling is looking for an additional mentor, I would be happy to chip in.
lewismc

On 2024/03/03 23:24:38 PJ Fanning wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> 
> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> 
> Proposal
> 
> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> 
> * scalable
> * resilient
> * low latency
> * easy to extend
> * polite yet efficient
> 
> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> 
> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> organisations world-wide.
> 
> Initial Committers
> 
> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> 
> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> Apache Way.
> 
> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> 
> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> 
> Thanks,
> PJ
> 
> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> [2] 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Thanks for checking that, and yes indeed it seems I looked at the wrong repro.

Kind Regards,
Justin

> On 4 Mar 2024, at 6:09 pm, tison  wrote:
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> I checked the initial committers group and that is, according to [1][2]
> 
> Initial Committers
> * Weibin Zeng (Alibaba, weibin@gmail.com) -> @acezen #1 in the
> contributor graph
> * Xue Li (Alibaba, lx_cla...@qq.com) -> @lixueclaire #2 in the contributor 
> graph
> * Zhe Wang (Southwest Minzu University, thesp...@qq.com) -> @Thespica
> #3 in the contributor graph
> * Semyon Sinchenko (Raiffeisen Bank International,
> ssinche...@protonmail.com) -> @SemyonSinchenko #5 in the contributor
> graph
> * He Tao (Alibaba, sighing...@gmail.com) -> @sighingnow in the
> contributor graph.
> 
> Starting from #6, commits are <=5. Note that the "main project repo"
> mentioned here is "alibaba/GraphAr" [1].
> 
> It seems you are using alibaba/GraphScope as the source, which is a
> downstream project of the proposed project; it's not included in the
> donation proposal.
> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr/graphs/contributors
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal
> 
> Justin Mclean  于2024年3月4日周一 14:59写道：
>> 
>> HI,
>> 
>> I was looking at your initial committer list and noticed, according to 
>> GitHub, that:
>> - sighingnow is #1 in activity
>> - acezen is #6 in activity
>> - lixueclaire is #30 in activity
>> - Thespica is not a commmiter in the main project. Is the repo elsewhere, 
>> and does that intend to be donated to teh ASF?
>> - SemyonSinchenko is not a committer in the main project. Is the repo 
>> elsewhere, and does that intend to be donated to the ASF?
>> 
>> While contributions to a project can be in other forms other than code, I 
>> can count six other people who have made 100+ commits to the main repo. Why 
>> are they not included in the initial committer list?
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
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RE: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[weibin.zen]

Thanks Calvin,

We would archive the historical messages and migrate to the new channel.

On 2024/03/04 02:16:29 Calvin Kirs wrote:
> +1. I'm happy to be one of the mentors.
>
>  On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:08 AM weibin.zen  wrote:
> > >
> >  > Hi, Justin
> >  >
> >  > Thank you very much for the suggestion. Currently the GraphAr slack 
> > channel is owned and managed by myself. As you suggested, we will move the 
> > Slack channel to the ASF's Slack instance once GraphAr enters incubator.
> It would be even better if historical messages could also be archived.
> > >
> >  > On 2024/03/03 01:33:36 Justin Mclean wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > >  > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. Slack Channel:
> > > > >  > > > > We intend to continue maintaining the Slack channel as an 
> > > > > additional real-time communication platform for both users and 
> > > > > developers. Slack provides a convenient and efficient means of 
> > > > > real-time communication. It can serve as an additional tool for 
> > > > > people to connect with the GraphAr community.
> > > > >
> > >  > > Just be mindful that Slack can’t be used to make decisions that need 
> > > to happen on the project’s mailing list and that not everyone due to 
> > > work, time zones or other reasons can participate in real time 
> > > conversatons. It would be best if you moved to the ASF's Slack instance, 
> > > as it has a permanent history and is managed by the ASF. Out of interest, 
> > > who currently owns and manages this Slack instance?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Kind Regards,
> > >  > > Justin
> > >  > >
> > >
> >  >
> >  > Best
> >  > weibin.zen
> >  >
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Xiaoqiao He]

+1. I'm happy to be one of the mentors. Good luck to have a good incubating
journey!

Best Regards,
- He Xiaoqiao

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 3:10 PM tison  wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> I checked the initial committers group and that is, according to [1][2]
>
> Initial Committers
> * Weibin Zeng (Alibaba, weibin@gmail.com) -> @acezen #1 in the
> contributor graph
> * Xue Li (Alibaba, lx_cla...@qq.com) -> @lixueclaire #2 in the
> contributor graph
> * Zhe Wang (Southwest Minzu University, thesp...@qq.com) -> @Thespica
> #3 in the contributor graph
> * Semyon Sinchenko (Raiffeisen Bank International,
> ssinche...@protonmail.com) -> @SemyonSinchenko #5 in the contributor
> graph
> * He Tao (Alibaba, sighing...@gmail.com) -> @sighingnow in the
> contributor graph.
>
> Starting from #6, commits are <=5. Note that the "main project repo"
> mentioned here is "alibaba/GraphAr" [1].
>
> It seems you are using alibaba/GraphScope as the source, which is a
> downstream project of the proposed project; it's not included in the
> donation proposal.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> [1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr/graphs/contributors
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal
>
> Justin Mclean  于2024年3月4日周一 14:59写道：
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > I was looking at your initial committer list and noticed, according to
> GitHub, that:
> > - sighingnow is #1 in activity
> > - acezen is #6 in activity
> > - lixueclaire is #30 in activity
> > - Thespica is not a commmiter in the main project. Is the repo
> elsewhere, and does that intend to be donated to teh ASF?
> > - SemyonSinchenko is not a committer in the main project. Is the repo
> elsewhere, and does that intend to be donated to the ASF?
> >
> > While contributions to a project can be in other forms other than code,
> I can count six other people who have made 100+ commits to the main repo.
> Why are they not included in the initial committer list?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[tison]

Hi Justin,

I checked the initial committers group and that is, according to [1][2]

Initial Committers
* Weibin Zeng (Alibaba, weibin@gmail.com) -> @acezen #1 in the
contributor graph
* Xue Li (Alibaba, lx_cla...@qq.com) -> @lixueclaire #2 in the contributor graph
* Zhe Wang (Southwest Minzu University, thesp...@qq.com) -> @Thespica
#3 in the contributor graph
* Semyon Sinchenko (Raiffeisen Bank International,
ssinche...@protonmail.com) -> @SemyonSinchenko #5 in the contributor
graph
* He Tao (Alibaba, sighing...@gmail.com) -> @sighingnow in the
contributor graph.

Starting from #6, commits are <=5. Note that the "main project repo"
mentioned here is "alibaba/GraphAr" [1].

It seems you are using alibaba/GraphScope as the source, which is a
downstream project of the proposed project; it's not included in the
donation proposal.

Best,
tison.

[1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr/graphs/contributors
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal

Justin Mclean  于2024年3月4日周一 14:59写道：
>
> HI,
>
> I was looking at your initial committer list and noticed, according to 
> GitHub, that:
> - sighingnow is #1 in activity
> - acezen is #6 in activity
> - lixueclaire is #30 in activity
> - Thespica is not a commmiter in the main project. Is the repo elsewhere, and 
> does that intend to be donated to teh ASF?
> - SemyonSinchenko is not a committer in the main project. Is the repo 
> elsewhere, and does that intend to be donated to the ASF?
>
> While contributions to a project can be in other forms other than code, I can 
> count six other people who have made 100+ commits to the main repo. Why are 
> they not included in the initial committer list?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

I was looking at your initial committer list and noticed, according to GitHub, 
that:
- sighingnow is #1 in activity
- acezen is #6 in activity
- lixueclaire is #30 in activity
- Thespica is not a commmiter in the main project. Is the repo elsewhere, and 
does that intend to be donated to teh ASF?
- SemyonSinchenko is not a committer in the main project. Is the repo 
elsewhere, and does that intend to be donated to the ASF?

While contributions to a project can be in other forms other than code, I can 
count six other people who have made 100+ commits to the main repo. Why are 
they not included in the initial committer list?

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Calvin Kirs]

+1. I'm happy to be one of the mentors.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:08 AM weibin.zen  wrote:
>
> Hi, Justin
>
> Thank you very much for the suggestion. Currently the GraphAr slack channel 
> is owned and managed  by myself.  As you suggested, we will move the Slack 
> channel to the ASF's Slack instance once GraphAr enters incubator.
It would be even better if historical messages could also be archived.
>
> On 2024/03/03 01:33:36 Justin Mclean wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > > 2. Slack Channel:
> > >  > We intend to continue maintaining the Slack channel as an additional 
> > > real-time communication platform for both users and developers. Slack 
> > > provides a convenient and efficient means of real-time communication. It 
> > > can serve as an additional tool for people to connect with the GraphAr 
> > > community.
> >
> >  Just be mindful that Slack can’t be used to make decisions that need to 
> > happen on the project’s mailing list and that not everyone due to work, 
> > time zones or other reasons can participate in real time conversatons. It 
> > would be best if you moved to the ASF's Slack instance, as it has a 
> > permanent history and is managed by the ASF. Out of interest, who currently 
> > owns and manages this Slack instance?
> >
> >  Kind Regards,
> >  Justin
> >
>
>
> Best
> weibin.zen
>


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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[Dave Fisher]

I confirm my interest in being a Mentor.

Best,
Dave

> On Mar 3, 2024, at 6:24 PM, PJ Fanning  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
> and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.
> 
> StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
> customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.
> 
> Proposal
> 
> The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:
> 
> * scalable
> * resilient
> * low latency
> * easy to extend
> * polite yet efficient
> 
> StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
> on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
> Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.
> 
> StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
> organisations world-wide.
> 
> Initial Committers
> 
> Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
> Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
> Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
> Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
> Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
> https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]
> 
> Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
> committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
> Apache Way.
> 
> I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
> additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.
> 
> We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.
> 
> Thanks,
> PJ
> 
> [1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
> [2] 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal
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[DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for StormCrawler

[PJ Fanning]

Hi everyone,

I would like to propose StormCrawler [1] as a new Apache Incubator project,
and you can examine the proposal [2] for more details.

StormCrawler is a collection of resources for building low-latency,
customisable and scalable web crawlers on Apache Storm.

Proposal

The aim of StormCrawler is to help build web crawlers that are:

* scalable
* resilient
* low latency
* easy to extend
* polite yet efficient

StormCrawler achieves this partly with Apache Storm, which it is based
on. To use an analogy, Apache Storm is to StormCrawler what Apache
Hadoop is to Apache Nutch.

StormCrawler is mature (26 releases to date) and is used by many
organisations world-wide.

Initial Committers

Julien Nioche [jnio...@apache.org https://github.com/jnioche]
Sebastian Nagel [sna...@apache.org https://github.com/sebastian-nagel]
Richard Zowalla [r...@apache.org  https://github.com/rzo1]
Tim Allison [talli...@apache.org https://github.com/tballison]
Michael Dinzinger [michael.dinzin...@uni-passau.de
https://github.com/michaeldinzinger]

Most of the existing StormCrawler contributors are existing ASF
committers and are looking to build a vibrant community following the
Apache Way.

I will help this project as the champion and mentor. We would welcome
additional mentors, if anyone has an interest in helping.

We are looking forward to your questions and feedback.

Thanks,
PJ

[1] https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/StormCrawler+Proposal

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RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[weibin.zen]

Hi, Justin

Thank you very much for the suggestion. Currently the GraphAr slack channel is 
owned and managed  by myself.  As you suggested, we will move the Slack channel 
to the ASF's Slack instance once GraphAr enters incubator.

On 2024/03/03 01:33:36 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > 2. Slack Channel:
> >  > We intend to continue maintaining the Slack channel as an additional 
> > real-time communication platform for both users and developers. Slack 
> > provides a convenient and efficient means of real-time communication. It 
> > can serve as an additional tool for people to connect with the GraphAr 
> > community.
>
>  Just be mindful that Slack can’t be used to make decisions that need to 
> happen on the project’s mailing list and that not everyone due to work, time 
> zones or other reasons can participate in real time conversatons. It would be 
> best if you moved to the ASF's Slack instance, as it has a permanent history 
> and is managed by the ASF. Out of interest, who currently owns and manages 
> this Slack instance?
>
>  Kind Regards,
>  Justin
>


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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Imba Jin]

I am one of the PPMC members of Apache HugeGraph(incubating), and I have been 
following the development of GAR project closely. I am very happy to see that a 
new graph-related project has joined the Apache incubator. If it can be widely 
used and promoted, it will be a milestone for graph(storage) standardization.

HugeGraph is also interested in trying and integrating it, and we would like to 
exchange ideas and collaborate with the community building & release.

I have read the GAR proposal and I think it has a great advantage for its 
release, as it has very few third-party dependencies.

Best regards, 

Imba Jin (from Apache HugeGraph)

On 2024/03/01 12:36:12 Yu Li wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I would like to propose GraphAr [1] as a new apache incubator project,
> and you can find the proposal [2] for more details.
> 
> GraphAr is an open source and language independent data file format
> designed for efficient graph data storage and retrieval. It aims at
> supplying a standard format for large-scale graph data storage and
> processing that can be used by diverse existing graph systems, such as
> Neo4j, Nebula Graph, and Apache HugeGraph, to reduce the overhead when
> various systems work together. Specifically, it provides the following
> features:
> 
> 1. Efficient format: GraphAr maintains the CSR (Compressed Sparse Row)
> and CSC (Compressed Sparse Column) semantics of graph data, partitions
> the data into chunks for parallel access, and leverages
> high-performance columnar storage formats (Parquet and ORC) for data
> file organizing.
> 2. Out-of-core queries: GraphAr is designed for out-of-core scenarios,
> enabling the storage and querying of large-scale graphs outside of
> memory, such as in data lakes.
> 3. Cross-language support: GraphAr provides libraries in C++, Java,
> Scala with Spark, and Python with PySpark for generating, accessing,
> and transforming files in GraphAr format
> 
> GraphAr is currently adopted in the production environment at Alibaba
> and used in Fabarta and TuGraph. The community is still in its early
> age but with good shape and diversity, with 5 core developers and 14
> contributors from different organizations. Given the extensive need in
> the graph community for a standardized file format, we believe the
> developer and user communities will continue to grow.
> 
> The proposed initial committers are interested in joining ASF, and
> believe they could reinforce extensive collaboration and build a more
> vibrant community following the Apache Way.
> 
> I will help this project as the champion and mentor, and many thanks
> to our three other mentors:
> 
> * Calvin Kirs (k...@apache.org)
> * tison (ti...@apache.org)
> * Xiaoqiao He (hexiaoq...@apache.org)
> 
> Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Yu
> 
> [1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

As the discussion seems to have died down, I’ll put this up for a vote.

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> 2. Slack Channel:
> We intend to continue maintaining the Slack channel as an additional 
> real-time communication platform for both users and developers. Slack 
> provides a convenient and efficient means of real-time communication. It can 
> serve as an additional tool for people to connect with the GraphAr community.

Just be mindful that Slack can’t be used to make decisions that need to happen 
on the project’s mailing list and that not everyone due to work, time zones or 
other reasons can participate in real time conversatons. It would be best if 
you moved to the ASF's Slack instance, as it has a permanent history and is 
managed by the ASF. Out of interest, who currently owns and manages this Slack 
instance?

Kind Regards,
Justin

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[weibin.zen]

Hi, tison

I'm Weibin from GraphAr community.

Thanks very much for your support and feedback on GraphAr.
For the questions about  communication channels,  here is our plan:

1.Google Group Channel:
Once GraphAr enters the Apache Incubator, our plan is to archive the existing 
Google Group mailing list and migrate to 'd...@graphar.apahce.org' mail list. 
We want to  transfer the archived content to the 'd...@graphar.apahce.org', if 
feasible.  By doing so, we can ensure  the discussions on the Google Group are 
preserved and accessible to the community.

2. Slack Channel:
We intend to continue maintaining the Slack channel as an additional real-time 
communication platform for both users and developers. Slack provides a 
convenient and efficient means of real-time communication. It can serve as an 
additional tool for people to connect with the GraphAr community.

On 2024/03/01 16:02:46 tison wrote:
> Confirm as a mentor. This project looks interesting and is in good
>  shape for starting as a podling.
>
>  Two questions here:
>
>  1. I saw a Google Group channel for this project [1]. What is the plan
>  to maintain or archive this channel?
>  2. I saw a Slack workspace for this project [2]. What is the plan to
>  maintain or archive this channel?
>
>  Best,
>  tison.
>
>  [1] graphar+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>  [2] 
> https://join.slack.com/t/grapharworkspace/shared_invite/zt-1wh5vo828-yxs0MlXYBPBBNvjOGhL4kQ
>
>  Yu Li  于2024年3月1日周五 20:38写道：
> > >
> >  > Hi All,
> >  >
> >  > I would like to propose GraphAr [1] as a new apache incubator project,
> >  > and you can find the proposal [2] for more details.
> >  >
> >  > GraphAr is an open source and language independent data file format
> >  > designed for efficient graph data storage and retrieval. It aims at
> >  > supplying a standard format for large-scale graph data storage and
> >  > processing that can be used by diverse existing graph systems, such as
> >  > Neo4j, Nebula Graph, and Apache HugeGraph, to reduce the overhead when
> >  > various systems work together. Specifically, it provides the following
> >  > features:
> >  >
> >  > 1. Efficient format: GraphAr maintains the CSR (Compressed Sparse Row)
> >  > and CSC (Compressed Sparse Column) semantics of graph data, partitions
> >  > the data into chunks for parallel access, and leverages
> >  > high-performance columnar storage formats (Parquet and ORC) for data
> >  > file organizing.
> >  > 2. Out-of-core queries: GraphAr is designed for out-of-core scenarios,
> >  > enabling the storage and querying of large-scale graphs outside of
> >  > memory, such as in data lakes.
> >  > 3. Cross-language support: GraphAr provides libraries in C++, Java,
> >  > Scala with Spark, and Python with PySpark for generating, accessing,
> >  > and transforming files in GraphAr format
> >  >
> >  > GraphAr is currently adopted in the production environment at Alibaba
> >  > and used in Fabarta and TuGraph. The community is still in its early
> >  > age but with good shape and diversity, with 5 core developers and 14
> >  > contributors from different organizations. Given the extensive need in
> >  > the graph community for a standardized file format, we believe the
> >  > developer and user communities will continue to grow.
> >  >
> >  > The proposed initial committers are interested in joining ASF, and
> >  > believe they could reinforce extensive collaboration and build a more
> >  > vibrant community following the Apache Way.
> >  >
> >  > I will help this project as the champion and mentor, and many thanks
> >  > to our three other mentors:
> >  >
> >  > * Calvin Kirs (k...@apache.org)
> >  > * tison (ti...@apache.org)
> >  > * Xiaoqiao He (hexiaoq...@apache.org)
> >  >
> >  > Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
> >  >
> >  > Best Regards,
> >  > Yu
> >  >
> >  > [1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr
> >  > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[tison]

Confirm as a mentor. This project looks interesting and is in good
shape for starting as a podling.

Two questions here:

1. I saw a Google Group channel for this project [1]. What is the plan
to maintain or archive this channel?
2. I saw a Slack workspace for this project [2]. What is the plan to
maintain or archive this channel?

Best,
tison.

[1] graphar+subscr...@googlegroups.com
[2] 
https://join.slack.com/t/grapharworkspace/shared_invite/zt-1wh5vo828-yxs0MlXYBPBBNvjOGhL4kQ

Yu Li  于2024年3月1日周五 20:38写道：
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to propose GraphAr [1] as a new apache incubator project,
> and you can find the proposal [2] for more details.
>
> GraphAr is an open source and language independent data file format
> designed for efficient graph data storage and retrieval. It aims at
> supplying a standard format for large-scale graph data storage and
> processing that can be used by diverse existing graph systems, such as
> Neo4j, Nebula Graph, and Apache HugeGraph, to reduce the overhead when
> various systems work together. Specifically, it provides the following
> features:
>
> 1. Efficient format: GraphAr maintains the CSR (Compressed Sparse Row)
> and CSC (Compressed Sparse Column) semantics of graph data, partitions
> the data into chunks for parallel access, and leverages
> high-performance columnar storage formats (Parquet and ORC) for data
> file organizing.
> 2. Out-of-core queries: GraphAr is designed for out-of-core scenarios,
> enabling the storage and querying of large-scale graphs outside of
> memory, such as in data lakes.
> 3. Cross-language support: GraphAr provides libraries in C++, Java,
> Scala with Spark, and Python with PySpark for generating, accessing,
> and transforming files in GraphAr format
>
> GraphAr is currently adopted in the production environment at Alibaba
> and used in Fabarta and TuGraph. The community is still in its early
> age but with good shape and diversity, with 5 core developers and 14
> contributors from different organizations. Given the extensive need in
> the graph community for a standardized file format, we believe the
> developer and user communities will continue to grow.
>
> The proposed initial committers are interested in joining ASF, and
> believe they could reinforce extensive collaboration and build a more
> vibrant community following the Apache Way.
>
> I will help this project as the champion and mentor, and many thanks
> to our three other mentors:
>
> * Calvin Kirs (k...@apache.org)
> * tison (ti...@apache.org)
> * Xiaoqiao He (hexiaoq...@apache.org)
>
> Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>
> [1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal

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Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for the detailed information. Much appreciated.

I now have a better understanding of the goals. It looks interesting.

Happy to help as a mentor if you need.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 6:24 AM nathan ma  wrote:
>
> hi, JB
>
> As co-creator of this project, I’d love to explain more about the
> positioning of lakehouse management system.
>
> When discussing databases or traditional data warehouses, we often used the
> term DBMS (Database Management System) to describe them. Traditional
> databases, including MPP databases, are typically considered “out-of-box”
> solutions. Unlike big data systems, they don’t require various components
> like compute engines, data lake formats, or metadata stores. When we need a
> database management tool, lightweight options like Navicat are commonly
> used.
>
> If we further abstract the capabilities of a DBMS and map them to the
> modern data stack, we find that the data read/write part of a DBMS is now
> shared among different compute engines such as Spark, Flink, Trino, and
> cloud-native services like Athena. Another part of a DBMS deals with data
> files, index files, and metadata (also known as the information schema)
> maintenance. Currently, there are successful open-source and commercial
> projects dedicated to managing metadata, such as HiveMetastore,
> UnityCatalog, and more recently, Gravitino. In practice, developers often
> combine these projects with compute engines to optimize data files. For
> example, many commercial compute engines include an optimize command.
>
> Amoro, as a lakehouse management system, aims to encapsulate the
> maintenance and management of data lake files, index files, and metadata in
> a way that is transparent and easy-to-use for users. The richness of
> diverse computing engines is a distinctive feature of the modern data
> stack, opening up a multitude of possibilities for various application
> scenarios. Additionally, concerning the part analogous to DBMS, we aspire
> to have a mature system in place—one that seamlessly accommodates data
> written to the lakehouse by any engine, in any manner, ensuring high data
> availability across all other engines. For instance, when Flink writes to
> Iceberg, Amoro’s self-optimizing mechanism ensures efficient data analysis
> performance by Trino or other engines while controlling compacting costs.
> Additionally, Amoro handles historical data, snapshots, and orphan file
> cleanup in the background.
>
> By positioning Amoro in this way, we aim to provide an ‘out-of-box’
> experience that feels as straightforward as traditional DBMS while keeping
> openness to various computing engines. At the same time, Amoro hopes to
> empower data product builders with a lightweight solution that integrates
> seamlessly into their modern data workflows.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
> Jin Ma
>
>
> On 2024/02/23 14:16:43 Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi Justin
> >
> > Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> > purpose of the proposal.
> >
> > What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> > layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> > Spark, Trino ?
> >
> > Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
> help.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> who have done all of the hard work.
> > >
> > > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> You can find the proposal here. [1]
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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[DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for GraphAr

[Yu Li]

Hi All,

I would like to propose GraphAr [1] as a new apache incubator project,
and you can find the proposal [2] for more details.

GraphAr is an open source and language independent data file format
designed for efficient graph data storage and retrieval. It aims at
supplying a standard format for large-scale graph data storage and
processing that can be used by diverse existing graph systems, such as
Neo4j, Nebula Graph, and Apache HugeGraph, to reduce the overhead when
various systems work together. Specifically, it provides the following
features:

1. Efficient format: GraphAr maintains the CSR (Compressed Sparse Row)
and CSC (Compressed Sparse Column) semantics of graph data, partitions
the data into chunks for parallel access, and leverages
high-performance columnar storage formats (Parquet and ORC) for data
file organizing.
2. Out-of-core queries: GraphAr is designed for out-of-core scenarios,
enabling the storage and querying of large-scale graphs outside of
memory, such as in data lakes.
3. Cross-language support: GraphAr provides libraries in C++, Java,
Scala with Spark, and Python with PySpark for generating, accessing,
and transforming files in GraphAr format

GraphAr is currently adopted in the production environment at Alibaba
and used in Fabarta and TuGraph. The community is still in its early
age but with good shape and diversity, with 5 core developers and 14
contributors from different organizations. Given the extensive need in
the graph community for a standardized file format, we believe the
developer and user communities will continue to grow.

The proposed initial committers are interested in joining ASF, and
believe they could reinforce extensive collaboration and build a more
vibrant community following the Apache Way.

I will help this project as the champion and mentor, and many thanks
to our three other mentors:

* Calvin Kirs (k...@apache.org)
* tison (ti...@apache.org)
* Xiaoqiao He (hexiaoq...@apache.org)

Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Yu

[1] https://github.com/alibaba/GraphAr
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GraphArProposal

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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Kent Yao]

+1, I'm glad to be one of the mentors.

I had a discussion with Nathan and Jinsong two years ago. They
expressed interest in open-sourcing Arctic (formerly) and donating
it to the ASF Incubator in the future. 

I am happy to witness the community growth and the proposal that
has finally been put forward.

Kent Yao


On 2024/02/26 03:18:02 Xinyu Zhou wrote:
> +1, as one of the mentors, over the past few months, I have seen
> significant progress within this community.
> 
> Regards,
> Xinyu Zhou
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:53 AM Xavier Bai  wrote:
> 
> > +1, I was also one of the early developers on the project, focusing on
> > solving optimization and compaction issues with the company's Iceberg
> > tables. I believe that many teams using datalake need a system like Amoro
> > for effective data lake management and to reduce the complexity of data
> > lake maintenance. Therefore, contributing it to ASF can enrich the usage
> > scenarios and enhance datalake management capabilities.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Xu
> >
> > ConradJam  于2024年2月26日周一 10:12写道：
> >
> > > +1, I'm one of the developers. At present, I think the community is
> > > developing well, and this project can help everyone better control the
> > data
> > > lake. I suggest joining the ASF incubator to let more people know about
> > > this project and participate in it
> > >
> > > Justin Mclean  于2024年2月23日周五 16:44写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> > > Amoro.
> > > > I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> > who
> > > > have done all of the hard work.
> > > >
> > > > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> > > > like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with
> > compute
> > > > engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> > > > pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide
> > > out-of-the-box
> > > > data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> > > > build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native
> > > architecture.
> > > > You can find the proposal here. [1]
> > > >
> > > > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
> > > > -
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> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best
> > >
> > > ConradJam
> > >
> >
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Xinyu Zhou]

+1, as one of the mentors, over the past few months, I have seen
significant progress within this community.

Regards,
Xinyu Zhou

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:53 AM Xavier Bai  wrote:

> +1, I was also one of the early developers on the project, focusing on
> solving optimization and compaction issues with the company's Iceberg
> tables. I believe that many teams using datalake need a system like Amoro
> for effective data lake management and to reduce the complexity of data
> lake maintenance. Therefore, contributing it to ASF can enrich the usage
> scenarios and enhance datalake management capabilities.
>
> Thanks,
> Xu
>
> ConradJam  于2024年2月26日周一 10:12写道：
>
> > +1, I'm one of the developers. At present, I think the community is
> > developing well, and this project can help everyone better control the
> data
> > lake. I suggest joining the ASF incubator to let more people know about
> > this project and participate in it
> >
> > Justin Mclean  于2024年2月23日周五 16:44写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> > Amoro.
> > > I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> who
> > > have done all of the hard work.
> > >
> > > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> > > like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with
> compute
> > > engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> > > pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide
> > out-of-the-box
> > > data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> > > build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native
> > architecture.
> > > You can find the proposal here. [1]
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
> > > -
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Best
> >
> > ConradJam
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Xavier Bai]

+1, I was also one of the early developers on the project, focusing on
solving optimization and compaction issues with the company's Iceberg
tables. I believe that many teams using datalake need a system like Amoro
for effective data lake management and to reduce the complexity of data
lake maintenance. Therefore, contributing it to ASF can enrich the usage
scenarios and enhance datalake management capabilities.

Thanks,
Xu

ConradJam  于2024年2月26日周一 10:12写道：

> +1, I'm one of the developers. At present, I think the community is
> developing well, and this project can help everyone better control the data
> lake. I suggest joining the ASF incubator to let more people know about
> this project and participate in it
>
> Justin Mclean  于2024年2月23日周五 16:44写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> Amoro.
> > I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved who
> > have done all of the hard work.
> >
> > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> > like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> > engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> > pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide
> out-of-the-box
> > data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> > build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native
> architecture.
> > You can find the proposal here. [1]
> >
> > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
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> >
> >
>
> --
> Best
>
> ConradJam
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[ConradJam]

+1, I'm one of the developers. At present, I think the community is
developing well, and this project can help everyone better control the data
lake. I suggest joining the ASF incubator to let more people know about
this project and participate in it

Justin Mclean  于2024年2月23日周五 16:44写道：

> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache Amoro.
> I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved who
> have done all of the hard work.
>
> Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> You can find the proposal here. [1]
>
> We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Yu Li]

+1. I'm happy to be one of the mentors.

I have discussed with Jinsong, Nathan and the team, and am impressed
by their openness and passion on improving the Amoro community through
incubation. From my observation, it's a well developed community with
a similar governance philosophy as the Apache Way. I believe joining
Apache incubator could help the community to be more vibrant and
diverse.

And personally, I think having a dedicated project with the purpose to
better manage Lakehouse is necessary. IMHO, compared to the
traditional DBMS solutions, the existing open source Lakehouse
solutions focus more on the "DB" part and lack efforts on the "MS"
part.

Best Regards,
Yu

On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 22:54, 周劲松  wrote:
>
> Hi JB，
>
> Yes, you can say it is an abstraction layer on top of data lake table
> formats and query engines and we often call it the service layer in
> Lakehouse architecture. The service layer primarily provides unified
> metadata and access control, as well as common audit services, and so on.
> Of course, Amoro is currently focusing on automatic optimizing, helping
> users to more easily use the data lake and achieve the desired analytical
> performance on it. Amoro can work with other software in the service layer
> and can also extend plugins to integrate more capabilities.
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:18 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justin
> >
> > Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> > purpose of the proposal.
> >
> > What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> > layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> > Spark, Trino ?
> >
> > Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
> > help.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> > Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> > who have done all of the hard work.
> > >
> > > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> > like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> > engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> > pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> > data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> > build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> > You can find the proposal here. [1]
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[nathan ma]

hi, JB

As co-creator of this project, I’d love to explain more about the
positioning of lakehouse management system.

When discussing databases or traditional data warehouses, we often used the
term DBMS (Database Management System) to describe them. Traditional
databases, including MPP databases, are typically considered “out-of-box”
solutions. Unlike big data systems, they don’t require various components
like compute engines, data lake formats, or metadata stores. When we need a
database management tool, lightweight options like Navicat are commonly
used.

If we further abstract the capabilities of a DBMS and map them to the
modern data stack, we find that the data read/write part of a DBMS is now
shared among different compute engines such as Spark, Flink, Trino, and
cloud-native services like Athena. Another part of a DBMS deals with data
files, index files, and metadata (also known as the information schema)
maintenance. Currently, there are successful open-source and commercial
projects dedicated to managing metadata, such as HiveMetastore,
UnityCatalog, and more recently, Gravitino. In practice, developers often
combine these projects with compute engines to optimize data files. For
example, many commercial compute engines include an optimize command.

Amoro, as a lakehouse management system, aims to encapsulate the
maintenance and management of data lake files, index files, and metadata in
a way that is transparent and easy-to-use for users. The richness of
diverse computing engines is a distinctive feature of the modern data
stack, opening up a multitude of possibilities for various application
scenarios. Additionally, concerning the part analogous to DBMS, we aspire
to have a mature system in place—one that seamlessly accommodates data
written to the lakehouse by any engine, in any manner, ensuring high data
availability across all other engines. For instance, when Flink writes to
Iceberg, Amoro’s self-optimizing mechanism ensures efficient data analysis
performance by Trino or other engines while controlling compacting costs.
Additionally, Amoro handles historical data, snapshots, and orphan file
cleanup in the background.

By positioning Amoro in this way, we aim to provide an ‘out-of-box’
experience that feels as straightforward as traditional DBMS while keeping
openness to various computing engines. At the same time, Amoro hopes to
empower data product builders with a lightweight solution that integrates
seamlessly into their modern data workflows.



Thanks.



On 2024/02/23 14:16:43 Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi Justin
>
> Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> purpose of the proposal.
>
> What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> Spark, Trino ?
>
> Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
help.
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
who have done all of the hard work.
> >
> > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
You can find the proposal here. [1]
> >
> > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[PJ Fanning]

+1. Looks like a good candidate with a good number of contributors already.

On 2024/02/24 05:24:33 nathan ma wrote:
> hi, JB
> 
> As co-creator of this project, I’d love to explain more about the
> positioning of lakehouse management system.
> 
> When discussing databases or traditional data warehouses, we often used the
> term DBMS (Database Management System) to describe them. Traditional
> databases, including MPP databases, are typically considered “out-of-box”
> solutions. Unlike big data systems, they don’t require various components
> like compute engines, data lake formats, or metadata stores. When we need a
> database management tool, lightweight options like Navicat are commonly
> used.
> 
> If we further abstract the capabilities of a DBMS and map them to the
> modern data stack, we find that the data read/write part of a DBMS is now
> shared among different compute engines such as Spark, Flink, Trino, and
> cloud-native services like Athena. Another part of a DBMS deals with data
> files, index files, and metadata (also known as the information schema)
> maintenance. Currently, there are successful open-source and commercial
> projects dedicated to managing metadata, such as HiveMetastore,
> UnityCatalog, and more recently, Gravitino. In practice, developers often
> combine these projects with compute engines to optimize data files. For
> example, many commercial compute engines include an optimize command.
> 
> Amoro, as a lakehouse management system, aims to encapsulate the
> maintenance and management of data lake files, index files, and metadata in
> a way that is transparent and easy-to-use for users. The richness of
> diverse computing engines is a distinctive feature of the modern data
> stack, opening up a multitude of possibilities for various application
> scenarios. Additionally, concerning the part analogous to DBMS, we aspire
> to have a mature system in place—one that seamlessly accommodates data
> written to the lakehouse by any engine, in any manner, ensuring high data
> availability across all other engines. For instance, when Flink writes to
> Iceberg, Amoro’s self-optimizing mechanism ensures efficient data analysis
> performance by Trino or other engines while controlling compacting costs.
> Additionally, Amoro handles historical data, snapshots, and orphan file
> cleanup in the background.
> 
> By positioning Amoro in this way, we aim to provide an ‘out-of-box’
> experience that feels as straightforward as traditional DBMS while keeping
> openness to various computing engines. At the same time, Amoro hopes to
> empower data product builders with a lightweight solution that integrates
> seamlessly into their modern data workflows.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> Jin Ma
> 
> 
> On 2024/02/23 14:16:43 Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi Justin
> >
> > Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> > purpose of the proposal.
> >
> > What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> > layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> > Spark, Trino ?
> >
> > Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
> help.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> who have done all of the hard work.
> > >
> > > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> You can find the proposal here. [1]
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
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RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[nathan ma]

hi, JB

As co-creator of this project, I’d love to explain more about the
positioning of lakehouse management system.

When discussing databases or traditional data warehouses, we often used the
term DBMS (Database Management System) to describe them. Traditional
databases, including MPP databases, are typically considered “out-of-box”
solutions. Unlike big data systems, they don’t require various components
like compute engines, data lake formats, or metadata stores. When we need a
database management tool, lightweight options like Navicat are commonly
used.

If we further abstract the capabilities of a DBMS and map them to the
modern data stack, we find that the data read/write part of a DBMS is now
shared among different compute engines such as Spark, Flink, Trino, and
cloud-native services like Athena. Another part of a DBMS deals with data
files, index files, and metadata (also known as the information schema)
maintenance. Currently, there are successful open-source and commercial
projects dedicated to managing metadata, such as HiveMetastore,
UnityCatalog, and more recently, Gravitino. In practice, developers often
combine these projects with compute engines to optimize data files. For
example, many commercial compute engines include an optimize command.

Amoro, as a lakehouse management system, aims to encapsulate the
maintenance and management of data lake files, index files, and metadata in
a way that is transparent and easy-to-use for users. The richness of
diverse computing engines is a distinctive feature of the modern data
stack, opening up a multitude of possibilities for various application
scenarios. Additionally, concerning the part analogous to DBMS, we aspire
to have a mature system in place—one that seamlessly accommodates data
written to the lakehouse by any engine, in any manner, ensuring high data
availability across all other engines. For instance, when Flink writes to
Iceberg, Amoro’s self-optimizing mechanism ensures efficient data analysis
performance by Trino or other engines while controlling compacting costs.
Additionally, Amoro handles historical data, snapshots, and orphan file
cleanup in the background.

By positioning Amoro in this way, we aim to provide an ‘out-of-box’
experience that feels as straightforward as traditional DBMS while keeping
openness to various computing engines. At the same time, Amoro hopes to
empower data product builders with a lightweight solution that integrates
seamlessly into their modern data workflows.



Thanks.
Jin Ma


On 2024/02/23 14:16:43 Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi Justin
>
> Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> purpose of the proposal.
>
> What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> Spark, Trino ?
>
> Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
help.
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
who have done all of the hard work.
> >
> > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
You can find the proposal here. [1]
> >
> > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[周劲松]

Hi JB，

Yes, you can say it is an abstraction layer on top of data lake table
formats and query engines and we often call it the service layer in
Lakehouse architecture. The service layer primarily provides unified
metadata and access control, as well as common audit services, and so on.
Of course, Amoro is currently focusing on automatic optimizing, helping
users to more easily use the data lake and achieve the desired analytical
performance on it. Amoro can work with other software in the service layer
and can also extend plugins to integrate more capabilities.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:18 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:

> Hi Justin
>
> Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
> purpose of the proposal.
>
> What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
> layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
> Spark, Trino ?
>
> Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to
> help.
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache
> Amoro. I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved
> who have done all of the hard work.
> >
> > Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> You can find the proposal here. [1]
> >
> > We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[周劲松]

Hi Ayush,

I am Jinsong from Amoro community.
Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on Amoro. Amoro aims to
support multiple versions of Hadoop and Hive clusters as much as possible,
allowing users to specify versions during build time, but just as you said,
our default version should remain the latest. I have created an issue[1] to
track this problem and will work on it to resolve it as soon as possible.

[1] https://github.com/NetEase/amoro/issues/2564

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 17:13 PM Ayush Saxnea  wrote:

>
>   +1,
> I remember exploring this while exploring a way for compaction for iceberg
> tables for a Hive usecase, got some good pointers for cleaning up orphan
> files, I think it was using a pretty old version of Hive(3.1.1 I believe),
> so couldn't pull it in as dependency in Hive master branch itself, which
> was my initial plan.
>
> But overall, it was some good code.
>
> Good Luck!!!
>
> -Ayush
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi Justin

Even if it looks interesting, I'm not sure to understand exactly the
purpose of the proposal.

What lakehouse management system means exactly ? Is it an abstraction
layer on top of Iceberg, Paimon + query engine powered by Flink,
Spark, Trino ?

Please let me know if you want an additional mentor, I would be happy to help.

Thanks !
Regards
JB

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:44 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache Amoro. 
> I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved who have 
> done all of the hard work.
>
> Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats like 
> Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute engines 
> including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings pluggable and 
> self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box data warehouse 
> experience, and helps data platforms or products easily build 
> infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture. You can 
> find the proposal here. [1]
>
> We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Ayush Saxena]

+1,
I remember exploring this while exploring a way for compaction for iceberg
tables for a Hive usecase, got some good pointers for cleaning up orphan
files, I think it was using a pretty old version of Hive(3.1.1 I believe),
so couldn't pull it in as dependency in Hive master branch itself, which
was my initial plan.

But overall, it was some good code.

Good Luck!!!

-Ayush

On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 14:15, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache Amoro.
> I’m one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved who
> have done all of the hard work.
>
> Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats
> like Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute
> engines including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings
> pluggable and self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box
> data warehouse experience, and helps data platforms or products easily
> build infra-decoupled, stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture.
> You can find the proposal here. [1]
>
> We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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[DISCUSS] Apache Amoro proposal

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Apache Amoro. I’m 
one of the mentors, but there are a lot of other people involved who have done 
all of the hard work.

Amoro is a Lakehouse management system built on open data lake formats like 
Apache Iceberg and Apache Paimon (Incubating). Working with compute engines 
including Apache Flink, Apache Spark, and Trino, Amoro brings pluggable and 
self-managed features for Lakehouse to provide out-of-the-box data warehouse 
experience, and helps data platforms or products easily build infra-decoupled, 
stream-and-batch-fused and lake-native architecture. You can find the proposal 
here. [1]

We are looking forward to anyone's feedback or questions.

Thanks,
Justin

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/AmoroProposal
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[tan zhongyi]

Cool.

Can't wait to see this project to be an ASF project.

在 2024/1/4 10:12，“ShaoFeng Shi”mailto:shaofeng...@apache.org>> 写入:


After discuss with the project team, we invited Felix Cheung into the
mentor list (he is the first one expressed the willing for mentoring), and
the proposal has been updated [1]; so far we have 5 mentors, we think that
is a reasonable number for entering incubator. Thanks also to all others
that have chimed in expressing their support.


As this discussion has lasted 13 days which is a little bit long, I will
start the vote shortly.


[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal 
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal>


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ShaoFeng Shi mailto:shaofeng...@apache.org>> 
于2023年12月22日周五 20:58写道：


> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
>
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal 
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal>
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org <mailto:l...@apache.org>], 
> Kent Yao [
> y...@apache.org <mailto:y...@apache.org>] and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org 
> <mailto:ovi...@apache.org>] .
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
>
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/ 
> <https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/>
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

After discuss with the project team, we invited Felix Cheung into the
mentor list (he is the first one expressed the willing for mentoring), and
the proposal has been updated [1]; so far we have 5 mentors, we think that
is a reasonable number for entering incubator. Thanks also to all others
that have chimed in expressing their support.

As this discussion has lasted 13 days which is a little bit long, I will
start the vote shortly.

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal

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ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月22日周五 20:58写道：

> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
>
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> y...@apache.org] and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
>
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Kent,

Thank you for the information from NetEase. As I know, Kyuubi + Spark +
Gluten can be a typical high performance Lakehouse. Glad to see more
innovations appears among them.

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Kent Yao  于2023年12月28日周四 12:34写道：

> +1
>
> We have been using Glutin with Apache Kyuubi and Apache Spark
> at NetEase for about a year now. It's a promising project.
>
> And I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent Yao
>
> On 2023/12/28 03:25:56 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Yeah, 12 months is a little tough; I have discussed this with the team,
> and
> > updated the proposal to 18 months.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
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> >
> >
> > Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 13:53写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> > > impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily
> achievable.
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Rakesh,

Thank you for the comment! The Gluten community welcome everyone. I will
discuss the mentorship with the project members, and let you know if need
more mentors.

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Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月29日周五 23:05写道：

> +1
>
> Thank you Shaofeng for the details.
>
> I've connected with my colleagues at Microsoft and the project roadmap is
> super exciting to me. As my colleagues are part of various Apache projects
> Spark, Hadoop, Flink, Trino projects, I believe I can provide insights and
> add diversity to this project.
>
> Happy to be a mentor on this proposal during the incubation process, if you
> are interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:47 AM ShaoFeng Shi 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rakesh,
> >
> > Yeah, the team aware that, they plan to merge the Trino plugin into the
> > main repository at some point of time, depends on its maturity. The Hive
> > plugin is not on current roadmap I think, but this is open for
> discussion.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> >
> > Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月27日周三 14:06写道：
> >
> > > OK, that's really interesting. I hope you will add  "Gluten-Trino
> > > <https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino>" and "Gluten-Flink" as
> > > sub-projects(plugin module) under the main Gluten project and follow a
> > > single release cycle?
> > >
> > > Is it technically/architecturally feasible to develop a "Gluten-Hive"
> > > plugin (as we know Hive uses Apache Tez DAG) as a long term plan ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rakesh
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:30 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Rakesh,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
> > > > widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
> > > > https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
> > > > Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more
> > collaboration
> > > > in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
> > > > >
> > > > > Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get
> > the
> > > > > benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated,
> if
> > > you
> > > > > could share more on this integration, perf_numbers,
> > > > pullrequest_reference,
> > > > > jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin
> > > mechanism
> > > > in
> > > > > place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Rakesh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi <
> shaofeng...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Enrico,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team
> when
> > > > they
> > > > > > find me for coaching.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> > > > JVM-based
> &

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Yu, thank you for the information. Glad to hear the feedback, and expect to
see the collaboration with Flink in the new year!

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Yu Li  于2023年12月29日周五 19:37写道：

> +1, and I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.
>
> My team members at Alibaba deeply joined in the development of Gluten and
> Gluten-Trino, so I'm well aware that it's a diverse and open community, and
> really glad that the Gluten community decides to join the incubator.
>
> AFAIK, with Gluten-Trino plugin we could have some 50%~100% performance
> gain, and I believe it could further improve after joining the Gluten main
> branch later (not yet since that requires quite some code refactor, if I
> understand it correctly, but that's in the plan).
>
> About Flink plugin, I'm thrilled to see how things will develop, with my
> Flink PMC Member hat on (smile).
>
> Good luck team, and Happy New Year all!
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 12:34, Kent Yao  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > We have been using Glutin with Apache Kyuubi and Apache Spark
> > at NetEase for about a year now. It's a promising project.
> >
> > And I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent Yao
> >
> > On 2023/12/28 03:25:56 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > Yeah, 12 months is a little tough; I have discussed this with the team,
> > and
> > > updated the proposal to 18 months.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> > >
> > > Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 13:53写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> > > > impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily
> > achievable.
> > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Rakesh Radhakrishnan]

+1

Thank you Shaofeng for the details.

I've connected with my colleagues at Microsoft and the project roadmap is
super exciting to me. As my colleagues are part of various Apache projects
Spark, Hadoop, Flink, Trino projects, I believe I can provide insights and
add diversity to this project.

Happy to be a mentor on this proposal during the incubation process, if you
are interested.

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:47 AM ShaoFeng Shi  wrote:

> Hi Rakesh,
>
> Yeah, the team aware that, they plan to merge the Trino plugin into the
> main repository at some point of time, depends on its maturity. The Hive
> plugin is not on current roadmap I think, but this is open for discussion.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月27日周三 14:06写道：
>
> > OK, that's really interesting. I hope you will add  "Gluten-Trino
> > <https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino>" and "Gluten-Flink" as
> > sub-projects(plugin module) under the main Gluten project and follow a
> > single release cycle?
> >
> > Is it technically/architecturally feasible to develop a "Gluten-Hive"
> > plugin (as we know Hive uses Apache Tez DAG) as a long term plan ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rakesh
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:30 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rakesh,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
> > > widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
> > > https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
> > > Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more
> collaboration
> > > in the future.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> > >
> > > Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：
> > >
> > > > Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
> > > >
> > > > Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get
> the
> > > > benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if
> > you
> > > > could share more on this integration, perf_numbers,
> > > pullrequest_reference,
> > > > jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin
> > mechanism
> > > in
> > > > place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rakesh
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Enrico,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> > > they
> > > > > find me for coaching.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> > > JVM-based
> > > > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and
> build
> > > > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine
> it
> > > > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for
> other
> > > > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> > > mentioned
> > > > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different
> libararies,
> > > > like
> > > > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and
> > scope
> > > is
> > > > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > > Email: sh

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Yu Li]

+1, and I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.

My team members at Alibaba deeply joined in the development of Gluten and
Gluten-Trino, so I'm well aware that it's a diverse and open community, and
really glad that the Gluten community decides to join the incubator.

AFAIK, with Gluten-Trino plugin we could have some 50%~100% performance
gain, and I believe it could further improve after joining the Gluten main
branch later (not yet since that requires quite some code refactor, if I
understand it correctly, but that's in the plan).

About Flink plugin, I'm thrilled to see how things will develop, with my
Flink PMC Member hat on (smile).

Good luck team, and Happy New Year all!

Best Regards,
Yu


On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 12:34, Kent Yao  wrote:

> +1
>
> We have been using Glutin with Apache Kyuubi and Apache Spark
> at NetEase for about a year now. It's a promising project.
>
> And I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent Yao
>
> On 2023/12/28 03:25:56 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > Yeah, 12 months is a little tough; I have discussed this with the team,
> and
> > updated the proposal to 18 months.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> > Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 13:53写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> > > impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily
> achievable.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Kent Yao]

+1

We have been using Glutin with Apache Kyuubi and Apache Spark 
at NetEase for about a year now. It's a promising project.

And I'm glad to be one of the nominated mentors.

Thanks,
Kent Yao

On 2023/12/28 03:25:56 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> Hi Justin,
> 
> Yeah, 12 months is a little tough; I have discussed this with the team, and
> updated the proposal to 18 months.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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> Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 13:53写道：
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> > impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Justin,

Yeah, 12 months is a little tough; I have discussed this with the team, and
updated the proposal to 18 months.

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Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 13:53写道：

> Hi,
>
> Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Junping,

Thank you for the suggestion. I have discussed this with the team, they
agree with this. I have updated abstract part of the proposal. The slogan
on the document website will be updated later.

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俊平堵  于2023年12月27日周三 13:46写道：

> This is definitely an interesting project and I noticed this project from
> a very early stage.
> I saw many discussions above on if Gluten should be a subproject of Spark
> or not, and I can see the value to keep it independent just like Shaofeng's
> previous points. However, the project name or slogan - "Gluten: Plugin to
> Double SparkSQL's Performance" could be updated a bit later to get rid of
> the confusion to serve SparkSQL only.
> +1 on the project going to apache. I am interested in helping as mentor if
> needed.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> JP
>
> ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月22日周五 20:59写道：
>
> > Hi IPMC members,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> >
> > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines
> in
> > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> >
> > Here is the proposal -
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> >
> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> project
> > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > y...@apache.org]
> > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> >
> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> >
> > Best,
> > Shaofeng Shi.
> >
> > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > Apache Incubator PMC,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Rakesh,

Yeah, the team aware that, they plan to merge the Trino plugin into the
main repository at some point of time, depends on its maturity. The Hive
plugin is not on current roadmap I think, but this is open for discussion.

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Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月27日周三 14:06写道：

> OK, that's really interesting. I hope you will add  "Gluten-Trino
> <https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino>" and "Gluten-Flink" as
> sub-projects(plugin module) under the main Gluten project and follow a
> single release cycle?
>
> Is it technically/architecturally feasible to develop a "Gluten-Hive"
> plugin (as we know Hive uses Apache Tez DAG) as a long term plan ?
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:30 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rakesh,
> >
> > Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
> > widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
> > https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
> > Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more collaboration
> > in the future.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：
> >
> > > Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
> > >
> > > Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
> > > benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if
> you
> > > could share more on this integration, perf_numbers,
> > pullrequest_reference,
> > > jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin
> mechanism
> > in
> > > place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rakesh
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Enrico,
> > > >
> > > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> > they
> > > > find me for coaching.
> > > >
> > > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> > JVM-based
> > > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> > mentioned
> > > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> > > like
> > > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and
> scope
> > is
> > > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng,
> > > > >
> > > > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > > > >  ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > Gluten.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache
> Spark
> > > SQL
> > > > > > que

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Rakesh Radhakrishnan]

OK, that's really interesting. I hope you will add  "Gluten-Trino
<https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino>" and "Gluten-Flink" as
sub-projects(plugin module) under the main Gluten project and follow a
single release cycle?

Is it technically/architecturally feasible to develop a "Gluten-Hive"
plugin (as we know Hive uses Apache Tez DAG) as a long term plan ?

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:30 PM ShaoFeng Shi  wrote:

> Hi Rakesh,
>
> Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
> widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
> https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
> Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more collaboration
> in the future.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> Apache Kylin PMC,
> Apache Incubator PMC,
> Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
>
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>
> Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：
>
> > Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
> >
> > Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
> > benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if you
> > could share more on this integration, perf_numbers,
> pullrequest_reference,
> > jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin mechanism
> in
> > place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rakesh
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Enrico,
> > >
> > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> they
> > > find me for coaching.
> > >
> > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> JVM-based
> > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> mentioned
> > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> > like
> > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope
> is
> > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> > >
> > > > Shaofeng,
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > > >  ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> Gluten.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> > SQL
> > > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > > engines
> > > > in
> > > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark
> ?
> > > >
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > > project
> > > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > > >
> > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> > > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Venkat Ranganathan]

I am currently looking into gluten as well and have been looking ap spark
acceleration in general.  Available for contribution as well as mentoring.

Thanks

Venkat

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:53 PM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not 
impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[俊平堵]

This is definitely an interesting project and I noticed this project from
a very early stage.
I saw many discussions above on if Gluten should be a subproject of Spark
or not, and I can see the value to keep it independent just like Shaofeng's
previous points. However, the project name or slogan - "Gluten: Plugin to
Double SparkSQL's Performance" could be updated a bit later to get rid of
the confusion to serve SparkSQL only.
+1 on the project going to apache. I am interested in helping as mentor if
needed.


Thanks,

JP

ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月22日周五 20:59写道：

> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
>
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> y...@apache.org]
> and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
>
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> Apache Incubator PMC,
> Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Wenli Zhang]

+1
I am delighted to see the proposal for Gluten and honored to be a mentor for 
this innovative project. I look forward to contributing my insights and helping 
guide Gluten through the incubation process. Thank you for this opportunity, 
and I am ready to support the project’s success.

Best regards,
Wenli Zhang

On 2023/12/22 12:58:24 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> Hi IPMC members,
> 
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> 
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> 
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> 
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [y...@apache.org]
> and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> 
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> 
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
> 
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Rakesh,

Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more collaboration
in the future.

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Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：

> Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
>
> Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
> benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if you
> could share more on this integration, perf_numbers, pullrequest_reference,
> jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin mechanism in
> place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Enrico,
> >
> > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when they
> > find me for coaching.
> >
> > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the JVM-based
> > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also mentioned
> > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> like
> > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope is
> > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> >
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> >
> >
> > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> >
> > > Shaofeng,
> > >
> > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > >  ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> > > >
> > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> SQL
> > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > engines
> > > in
> > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > >
> > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark ?
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > >
> > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > project
> > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > >
> > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Rakesh Radhakrishnan]

Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!

Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if you
could share more on this integration, perf_numbers, pullrequest_reference,
jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin mechanism in
place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi  wrote:

> Hi Enrico,
>
> This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when they
> find me for coaching.
>
> As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the JVM-based
> SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also mentioned
> this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies, like
> Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope is
> different, that's why we put it as a new project.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> Apache Kylin PMC,
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> Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
>
> > Shaofeng,
> >
> > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> >  ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Hi IPMC members,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> > >
> > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> engines
> > in
> > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> >
> > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark ?
> >
> > Enrico
> >
> > >
> > > Here is the proposal -
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > >
> > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > project
> > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > y...@apache.org]
> > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > >
> > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > >
> > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Chunen Ni]

I've been keeping an eye on Gluten project since its starting up. And now, I'm 
so glad to see itsshowing up in the incubating discussion list.

The aim of Gluten project is simple yet significant, with the high performance 
of native libraries, to speed up Spark Sql queries. Its architecture is neat 
and full of scalability. 

Wish to see Gluten help more users to improve their Spark Sql efficiency.

On 2023/12/22 12:58:24 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> Hi IPMC members,
> 
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> 
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> 
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> 
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [y...@apache.org]
> and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> 
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> 
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
> 
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[David Zollo]

+1, Glad to see a better performance project Gluten can enter into the
incubator.  I'm very interested in high performance projects.
I hope Gluten brings more possibilities for computational acceleration.


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On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 10:15 AM ShaoFeng Shi 
wrote:

> Hello Felix, so far we have 4 mentors; I will contact you if need more.
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
>
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> Felix Cheung  于2023年12月24日周日 06:00写道：
>
> > Very interesting. Let me know if I can help as mentor
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 7:30 AM tison  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for driving this proposal Shaofeng :D
> > >
> > > +1 to support this project entering the Incuabtor. It's in good shape
> > > to develop an OSS project with a diverse group. Hopefully, the
> > > Incubator can help it evaluate whether The Apache Way fits in its
> > > community and growth.
> > >
> > > One thing to be noticed is that you're not listed on the mentor list.
> > > By definition the champion helps the candidate go through the
> > > proposing stage and is not always a mentor. If you're going to be the
> > > mentor, you should add yourself to the mentor list also. But it's OK
> > > that you can serve as a mentor.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > > ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月23日周六 20:43写道：
> > > >
> > > > Hi Enrico,
> > > >
> > > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> > they
> > > > find me for coaching.
> > > >
> > > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> > JVM-based
> > > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> > mentioned
> > > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> > > like
> > > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and
> scope
> > is
> > > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng,
> > > > >
> > > > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > > > >  ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> > Gluten.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache
> Spark
> > > SQL
> > > > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > > engines
> > > > > in
> > > > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache
> Spark
> > ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Enrico
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hello Felix, so far we have 4 mentors; I will contact you if need more.
Thank you!

Best regards,

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Felix Cheung  于2023年12月24日周日 06:00写道：

> Very interesting. Let me know if I can help as mentor
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 7:30 AM tison  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for driving this proposal Shaofeng :D
> >
> > +1 to support this project entering the Incuabtor. It's in good shape
> > to develop an OSS project with a diverse group. Hopefully, the
> > Incubator can help it evaluate whether The Apache Way fits in its
> > community and growth.
> >
> > One thing to be noticed is that you're not listed on the mentor list.
> > By definition the champion helps the candidate go through the
> > proposing stage and is not always a mentor. If you're going to be the
> > mentor, you should add yourself to the mentor list also. But it's OK
> > that you can serve as a mentor.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> > ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月23日周六 20:43写道：
> > >
> > > Hi Enrico,
> > >
> > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> they
> > > find me for coaching.
> > >
> > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> JVM-based
> > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> mentioned
> > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> > like
> > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope
> is
> > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> > >
> > > > Shaofeng,
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > > >  ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> Gluten.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> > SQL
> > > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > engines
> > > > in
> > > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark
> ?
> > > >
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > > project
> > > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > > >
> > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi tison,

I added myself into the mentor list just now, I will be there. Thanks for
your suggestion!

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tison  于2023年12月23日周六 23:30写道：

> Thanks for driving this proposal Shaofeng :D
>
> +1 to support this project entering the Incuabtor. It's in good shape
> to develop an OSS project with a diverse group. Hopefully, the
> Incubator can help it evaluate whether The Apache Way fits in its
> community and growth.
>
> One thing to be noticed is that you're not listed on the mentor list.
> By definition the champion helps the candidate go through the
> proposing stage and is not always a mentor. If you're going to be the
> mentor, you should add yourself to the mentor list also. But it's OK
> that you can serve as a mentor.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月23日周六 20:43写道：
> >
> > Hi Enrico,
> >
> > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when they
> > find me for coaching.
> >
> > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the JVM-based
> > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also mentioned
> > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> like
> > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope is
> > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> >
> > > Shaofeng,
> > >
> > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > >  ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> > > >
> > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> SQL
> > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> engines
> > > in
> > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > >
> > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark ?
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > >
> > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > project
> > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > >
> > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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