Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mask issue: I checked emerge info

2003-08-27 Thread Heschi Kreinick
The people telling you that ACCEPT_KEYWORDS should be just ~x86 are wrong.
Had they bothered to look on their own systems they'd see that they have
both also (assuming they run unstable). If you had only ~x86, you wouldn't
be able to install stable packages. Settings in make.conf are cumulative to
settings in make.globals and the make.profile files.
Oh, and wrt your original question, it's hardmasked in package.mask just
like people have been telling you. If you emerge the ebuild manually it'll
at least try to install, but you should probably find out why it was
hardmasked first.
-Heschi

> but . .  but
> from my
> make.conf i have
>
> ..
> .
> .
> # '~ppc', '~sparc' are the unstable KEYWORDS for their respective
platforms.
> # DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR SPECIFIC ~ARCHITECTURE IN THE LIST.
> # IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR ARCH, OR THE IMPLICATIONS, DO NOT MODIFY THIS.
> #
> #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch"
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"
>
> # Portage Directories
> # ===
> #


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Re: [gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-27 Thread Greg Donald

> > What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?
> 
> sauron root # qpkg -f `which mail`
> net-mail/mailx *

I now have mailx installed, thanks.

But now I got different issue.

> echo test | mail -s test root
send-mail: Cannot open gateway:25

> telnet 0 25
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

But when I try and start it

> /etc/init.d/sendmail start  
 * WARNING:  "sendmail" has already been started.


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[gentoo-user] software patents

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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Why don't you do, in www.gentoo.org, the same thing people at
http://savannah.nongnu.org or http://www.xname.org have done (show an initial
page introductory to the problem) to protest for software patents ?
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[gentoo-user] can't get my tv to work with gatos drivers (...continued)

2003-08-27 Thread gabriel
so here's the story so far... sadly, it hasn't progressed far at all:

after some help from my fellow gentoo'ers, i looked into my kernel compilation 
and checked the settings.  here's what i found (parts i thought to be 
unrelated are omitted):

Character devices:
  I2C support  --->
<*> I2C device interface
<*> I2C /proc interface (required for hardware sensors)
   /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
 ATI Radeon

Multimedia devices
  <*> Video For Linux
  Video For Linux  --->
[*]   V4L information in proc filesystem
--- Video Adapters
< >   Mediavision Pro Movie Studio Video For Linux
< >   CPiA Video For Linux
< >   SAA5249 Teletext processor
< >   SAB3036 tuner
< >   Stradis 4:2:2 MPEG-2 video driver  (EXPERIMENTAL)
< >   Zoran ZR36057/36060 Video For Linux
< >   Zoran ZR36120/36125 Video For Linux

  Sound
  < >   BT878 audio dma
  <*>   Creative SBLive! (EMU10K1)
  [*] Creative SBLive! MIDI
  < >   TV card (bt848) mixer support


what you see above are my current settings...  for those of you who have your 
tv working, am i missing anything?  anyone care to share their config file?

also (possibly of more importance, this is the output of running "X" from the 
command line as root in a console:

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r6 i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 20 August 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Aug 26 20:34:03 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
Using vt 7


what the heck is vt 7?

thanks so much for the continuing patience of the group... i just miss my tv 
and really don't understand what i'm missing



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[gentoo-user] install gentoo with out cd/floppy drive

2003-08-27 Thread Davi Jose O Bueno
Hello,
Anyone could help resolv this problem.
I have 2 computers, one pentium II 10Gb Hd, 128Mb Ram, with out drive and 
another is Ahtlon 800Mhz, 30Gb Hd, 512Mb Ram, whti drives floppy/cdrom.

How can i install gentoo on pentium ii?

Little more information:
The pentium is with out OS
I can install the hd of pentium in the atlhon for copy
the stage*-date.tar.gz and other minor things
I would like boot and compile all things in pentium.
I don't want to move the cdrom to the pentium until the install is finish.
the athlon is running mdk9.1
the computers are in lan with adsl internet connection

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[gentoo-user] Yamaha SW1000XG

2003-08-27 Thread Meka[ni]
Well, for those who know what this is the question is: "Is there any chance 
that I will
work with that card on Linux?" I know I should ask that Yamaha and I did, but I was
wondering if there is someone who somehow got drivers for this piece of hardware. Thanx
:o)


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't get my tv to work with gatos drivers(...continued)

2003-08-27 Thread Owen Ford
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 19:53, gabriel wrote:
> so here's the story so far... sadly, it hasn't progressed far at all:
> 
> after some help from my fellow gentoo'ers, i looked into my kernel compilation 
> and checked the settings.  here's what i found (parts i thought to be 
> unrelated are omitted):
> 
> Character devices:
>   I2C support  --->
> <*> I2C device interface
> <*> I2C /proc interface (required for hardware sensors)
>/dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
>  ATI Radeon
> 
> Multimedia devices
>   <*> Video For Linux
>   Video For Linux  --->
> [*]   V4L information in proc filesystem
> --- Video Adapters
> < >   Mediavision Pro Movie Studio Video For Linux
> < >   CPiA Video For Linux
> < >   SAA5249 Teletext processor
> < >   SAB3036 tuner
> < >   Stradis 4:2:2 MPEG-2 video driver  (EXPERIMENTAL)
> < >   Zoran ZR36057/36060 Video For Linux
> < >   Zoran ZR36120/36125 Video For Linux
> 
>   Sound
>   < >   BT878 audio dma
>   <*>   Creative SBLive! (EMU10K1)
>   [*] Creative SBLive! MIDI
>   < >   TV card (bt848) mixer support
> 
> 
> what you see above are my current settings...  for those of you who have your 
> tv working, am i missing anything?  anyone care to share their config file?
> 
> also (possibly of more importance, this is the output of running "X" from the 
> command line as root in a console:
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.3.0
> Release Date: 27 February 2003
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r6 i686 [ELF]
> Build Date: 20 August 2003
>   Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
>   to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Aug 26 20:34:03 2003
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
> Using vt 7
> 
> 
> what the heck is vt 7?
> 
> thanks so much for the continuing patience of the group... i just miss my tv 
> and really don't understand what i'm missing

vt7 is the virtual terminal that gentoo tells X to use by default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] lilo triple boot

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 16:11, Ron wrote:

> I can see your approach solving the problem I had.  running /sbin/lilo
> only gave me error messages, hdax is not bootable or could not find hdax
> in fstab.  

hdax should be replaced with something like hda7 or hda9. Using fdisk
you can find the partition number and fix that pretty easily.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Automatic perl packages, emerged from CPAN?

2003-08-27 Thread Adam Scriven
Hey all.

I've been wondering about this, is there some way for me to build the
various perl modules using emerge, but getting them directly from CPAN?
I'm thinking about something analagous to Debian's "dh-make-perl" command,
where you can manage your perl modules with the debian package management
system, but you also have the flexibility of CPAN.

Perhaps something like: 'emerge --cpan "Module::Name"'?

Just a suggestion, thanks for reading!
Adam, half Gentoo half Debian user (the server will be on Gentoo RSN)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic perl packages, emerged from CPAN?

2003-08-27 Thread jblair2
I thought it already did.  I am puttint XMLTV on mine, and it put on XML::Twig and a 
lot of other ones.  While it was emerging, it looked like it was running perl.  I 
might be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.  

Jeff

>Hey all.
>
>I've been wondering about this, is there some way for me to build the
>various perl modules using emerge, but getting them directly from CPAN?
>I'm thinking about something analagous to Debian's "dh-make-perl" command,
>where you can manage your perl modules with the debian package management
>system, but you also have the flexibility of CPAN.
>
>Perhaps something like: 'emerge --cpan "Module::Name"'?
>
>Just a suggestion, thanks for reading!
>Adam, half Gentoo half Debian user (the server will be on Gentoo RSN)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic perl packages, emerged from CPAN?

2003-08-27 Thread Heschi Kreinick
Take a look at g-cpan.pl...I've never used it myself, but it seems to be
kinda what you're looking for. Not much information on usage; seems to be
g-cpan.pl Category::Module
but I'm not positive. Try searching the forums.
-Heschi

> I've been wondering about this, is there some way for me to build the
> various perl modules using emerge, but getting them directly from CPAN?
> I'm thinking about something analagous to Debian's "dh-make-perl" command,
> where you can manage your perl modules with the debian package management
> system, but you also have the flexibility of CPAN.
>
> Perhaps something like: 'emerge --cpan "Module::Name"'?
>
> Just a suggestion, thanks for reading!
> Adam, half Gentoo half Debian user (the server will be on Gentoo RSN)
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups/gimp-print not working

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Try moving gimp-print down to 4.2.5-r2

BillK

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:36, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm unable to print using gimp-print drivers. This seems to happen 
> from the upgrade to cups 1.1.19, as this was working before without any 
> problem. I have been able to print using the driver bundled with cups, 
> but only with one of them (EPSON Stylus Color Series CUPS v1.1). If I 
> try the "EPSON New Stylus Color Series CUPS v1.1" driver, the printer 
> stops working.
> 
> Here's my configuration:
> 
> Printer -> Epson Stylus Color 850, attached to parallel port
> net-print/cups 1.1.19-r1
> media-gfx/gimp-print 4.3.18
> app-text/ghostscript 7.05.6-r3
> 
> I've unmerged and emerged a lot of times using different USE 
> variables. Right now I don't use foomatic, as I emerge gimp-print with 
> +ppds. I also have emerged again ghostscript with +cups, so I don't know 
> what's the problem.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, regards
> Jose
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail and Aspell

2003-08-27 Thread Steven
Seeing as I have yet to have any response from either this
mailing list or the forums, I've gone ahead and submitted it
as a bug for future reference.

Thanks in advance to all who took a moment to even read
any of my posts.

Steven

On Sunday 24 August 2003 18:55, Steven wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I can't seem to get Aspell to work with either Kmail or Kword. Can anyone
> help? I've searched (and posted without response) the forums, but everyone
> appears to suggest procedures that I have already taken... :-\
>
> The error I get when attempting to initiate the spellchecker in Kmail is:
>
> "ISpell/Aspell could not be started. Please make sure you have
> ISpell or Aspell properly configured and in your PATH."
>
> For reference:
>
> *  app-text/aspell
>   Latest version available: 0.50.3
>   Latest version installed: 0.50.3
>   Size of downloaded files: 917 kB
>   Homepage:http://aspell.net/
>   Description: A spell checker replacement for ispell
>
> *  app-dicts/aspell-en
>   Latest version available: 0.51.0
>   Latest version installed: 0.51.0
>   Size of downloaded files: 168 kB
>   Homepage:http://aspell.net
>   Description: English (US, British, Canadian) language dictionary for
> aspell
>
>
> My KDE Spellchecking Control Component is set such that:
> Dictionary is set to: Aspell and Client is set to: Aspell.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas???
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Steven

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[gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Hosiawa
I have two computers behind a Linksys router that runs as a dhcp server,
I'm wondering how I can make the computer name resolve to its ip
address?

For example, if I want to ping my desktop I can just go "ping
desktop_name" rather then "ping 192.168.1.100"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic perl packages, emerged from CPAN?

2003-08-27 Thread Adam Scriven
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:21:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought it already did.  I am puttint XMLTV on mine, and it put on
> XML::Twig and a lot of other ones.  While it was emerging, it looked like
> it was running perl.  I might be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
> 

AFAIK, emerge currently just emerges already setup perl modules, from the
dev-perl/ section.
While they are named equivalently to, and built on the CPAN modules, they
aren't built from CPAN "live", like the dh-make-perl for Debian does.
Also, as not every CPAN module has an ebuild available on the portage
tree, you're limited to those that are already configured, and if you're
unable to configure your own you're kinda screwed.

I'm looking into that g-cpan.pl thing that Heschi Kreinick mentioned
in the other reply to my question, maybe that'll do what I'm looking for.
I found it a VERY useful part of debian, because I'd never have to worry
about my CPAN installs and my apt installs stepping on each other's toes,
they were effectivly merged into one system, and would work together very
well.

Here is a forum message talking about it, but it says:
"There was a tool in Gentoo called g-cpan.pl that was great at getting this started, 
but never really got anywhere."
http://forums.zynot.org/viewtopic.php?t=245

I didn't realise it was included as part of the distro itself, actually.
*blush*
I'm testing it out to see how it works. I hope whatever processes that
are keeping it out of the mainstream lighten up, a tool like this needs to
be on display, cause it's awesome!

Hrm, I see some issues with it, if an ebuild already exists it just tells
you it exists, it doesn't install it for you.  It also doesn't update existing
ebuilds, like the CPAN module itself.  The CPAN interface tells me a newer
version exists on CPAN, but g-cpan just says:
"Module already installed for 'CPAN'"

I'll keep doing my experiments with it, at least I can use it to install
non-ebuilded PERL modules.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention,
Heschi!

Thanks!
Adam

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Re: [gentoo-user] software patents

2003-08-27 Thread Norberto BENSA
Pupeno wrote:
> Why don't you do, in www.gentoo.org, the same thing people at
> http://savannah.nongnu.org or http://www.xname.org have done (show an

Please, don't. If you have any concerns with software patents, write to your 
representatives and ask them to review copyright laws.

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Kees Bergwerf
Op woensdag 27 augustus 2003 08:22, schreef Tom Hosiawa:

> For example, if I want to ping my desktop I can just go "ping
> desktop_name" rather then "ping 192.168.1.100"

in /etc/hosts:

192.168.1.100  desktop_name



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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Owen Ford
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 03:03, Kees Bergwerf wrote:
> Op woensdag 27 augustus 2003 08:22, schreef Tom Hosiawa:
> 
> > For example, if I want to ping my desktop I can just go "ping
> > desktop_name" rather then "ping 192.168.1.100"
> 
> in /etc/hosts:
> 
> 192.168.1.100  desktop_name
> --Kees

If he is using dhcp he very well might have to change those hosts
listings very frequently.  I don't have a good solution either ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups/gimp-print not working

2003-08-27 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Bill,

   Should I downgrade ghostscript too?

   Regards
   Jose
Bill Kenworthy wrote:

Try moving gimp-print down to 4.2.5-r2

BillK

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:36, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 

   Hi there,

   I'm unable to print using gimp-print drivers. This seems to happen 
from the upgrade to cups 1.1.19, as this was working before without any 
problem. I have been able to print using the driver bundled with cups, 
but only with one of them (EPSON Stylus Color Series CUPS v1.1). If I 
try the "EPSON New Stylus Color Series CUPS v1.1" driver, the printer 
stops working.

   Here's my configuration:

   Printer -> Epson Stylus Color 850, attached to parallel port
   net-print/cups 1.1.19-r1
   media-gfx/gimp-print 4.3.18
   app-text/ghostscript 7.05.6-r3
   I've unmerged and emerged a lot of times using different USE 
variables. Right now I don't use foomatic, as I emerge gimp-print with 
+ppds. I also have emerged again ghostscript with +cups, so I don't know 
what's the problem.

   Any help would be greatly appreciated, regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:15, Owen Ford wrote:
> If he is using dhcp he very well might have to change those hosts
> listings very frequently.  I don't have a good solution either ;)

I do :)
DHCP + djbdns + http://www.thismetalsky.org/magic/projects/dhcp_dns.html

It's all fairly straight forward once you've got your head round djb. I can 
provide more assistance when I've woken up a little (I really shouldn't keep 
my laptop next to my bed...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups/gimp-print not working

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:25, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Should I downgrade ghostscript too?

Nope, just gimp-print.

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Re: [gentoo-user] install gentoo with out cd/floppy drive

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 01:51, Davi Jose O Bueno wrote:
> Hello,
> Anyone could help resolv this problem.
> I have 2 computers, one pentium II 10Gb Hd, 128Mb Ram, with out drive and
> another is Ahtlon 800Mhz, 30Gb Hd, 512Mb Ram, whti drives floppy/cdrom.
>
> How can i install gentoo on pentium ii?

2 options really, both you mention below.
If you really don't want to move the cdrom across you'll have to compile a 
basic working install on the athlon for the pentium. There isn't much to do 
in a stage3, is there?
Subsequent upgrades, in time, will wipe out pretty much everything that you 
didn't compile yourself, or you could emerge -De world later on.

> Little more information:
> The pentium is with out OS
> I can install the hd of pentium in the atlhon for copy
> the stage*-date.tar.gz and other minor things
> I would like boot and compile all things in pentium.
> I don't want to move the cdrom to the pentium until the install is finish.
> the athlon is running mdk9.1
> the computers are in lan with adsl internet connection
>
> Davi Bueno
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[gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Christian Aust
Hi all,

today I've stumbled across this issue:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] christiana $ emerge -pv grub
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] sys-apps/grub-0.93.20030118 [0.92-r1] -static
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] christiana $ emerge -Dup world
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating world dependencies ...done!

 
As you can see, grub would be subject to updating, but isn't recognized by emerge -Dup 
world. What can I do to resolve this? What other packages are there waiting to be 
updated individually? Should I file a bug? I'm a little irritated. Best regards,

-  Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 18:53, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> Volunteers needed!
> http://debtoo.org

What about Gentoo's best feature: dependency and feature customization 
utilizing USE flags ? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:59:13 +0200
"Christian Aust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As you can see, grub would be subject to updating, but isn't
> recognized by emerge -Dup world. What can I do to resolve this? What
> other packages are there waiting to be updated individually? Should I
> file a bug? I'm a little irritated. Best regards,

If grub is not in your /var/cache/edb/world file it won't be considered
as it is not part of the system profile and there is only one package in
the tree (grubconf) that depends on grub. Just add sys-apps/grub to your
world file and it should be resolved.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Christian Aust
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:12:19 +0200:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:59:13 +0200
"Christian Aust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As you can see, grub would be subject to updating, but isn't
> recognized by emerge -Dup world. What can I do to resolve this? What
> other packages are there waiting to be updated individually? Should I
> file a bug? I'm a little irritated. Best regards,
If grub is not in your /var/cache/edb/world file it won't be considered
as it is not part of the system profile and there is only one package in
the tree (grubconf) that depends on grub. Just add sys-apps/grub to your
world file and it should be resolved.
Since I definitely emerge grub (and not installed it as a dependency) I'd assume that it 
should already be in "world". Obviously, it isn't. Why?

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[gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread Adam Dunstan
im using gcc 3.2.3 and i was woundering if it was still going to brake every
thing if i use -march=pentium4?


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[gentoo-user] any gtk-stock theme out there?

2003-08-27 Thread a_k_b
does anyone know about a stock theme for gtk or something like that? i already know 
that its a) possible via ~/.gtkrc(.mine) and that b) gtk2 themes can provide stock 
items (which isnt done by many, as far as i know). but is there a source for stock 
icons? art.gnome.org doesnt have any (or not many, dont remember now) and i also 
cannot find icons that can be used together as a theme, so i could customize my 
~/.gtkrc.mine on my own...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:25:56 +0200
"Christian Aust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:12:19
> +0200:
> > If grub is not in your /var/cache/edb/world file it won't be
> > considered as it is not part of the system profile and there is only
> > one package in the tree (grubconf) that depends on grub. Just add
> > sys-apps/grub to your world file and it should be resolved.
> 
> Since I definitely emerge grub (and not installed it as a dependency)
> I'd assume that it should already be in "world". Obviously, it isn't.
> Why?

That seems to happen from time to time, problem is that it's going
unnoticed in most cases and is probably not reproducable when it's
noticed. Search bugs.gentoo.org for an existing bug report and file a
new one if there is none.

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Stroller
On Wednesday, 27 August 2003, at 07:22AM, Tom Hosiawa wrote:

I have two computers behind a Linksys router that runs as a dhcp 
server,
I'm wondering how I can make the computer name resolve to its ip
address?

For example, if I want to ping my desktop I can just go "ping
desktop_name" rather then "ping 192.168.1.100"
What model is the Linksys router..?

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Stroller
On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:

Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to be
delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the next it
says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use postfix,
(naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about debugging this
You provide too little information to provide useful help. ESR explains 
how to ask questions better in this article: 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise

Do you run fetchmail as user or as a daemon..?
What does your .fetchmailrc say..?
   (Post it complete as an attachment, having edited your passwords)
What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?
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[gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?

2003-08-27 Thread Davide Brini
This is probably a silly question, but I haven't found an answer yet (I'm 
rather new to gentoo, only using it since July, so don't hit me too hard).

How do portage determines where a certain package has to be installed (eg, /, 
/usr, /usr/local, /opt or whatever)?

As an example, one month ago or so, I emerged xmame, and the executable 
"xmame" ended up in /usr/bin/xmame. After some time, an "emerge -up world" 
told me that a new version was out, so I emerged it. This time the executable 
was installed in /usr/games/bin, and so I had to reconfigure the graphical 
frontend to point to the right path. I was expecting that, if the files of 
some package reside in a certain set of directories (although I don't know 
how these are determined), subsequent updates of the package would follow the 
old paths, but that's not the case, AFAICS.

Where are these installation paths stored, or how are they determined?
The ebuild script for xmame itself references two variables, $GAMES_DATADIR 
and $GAMES_BINDIR, but I haven't been able to find where they are defined (of 
course, the question is more general than this specific case).

Another question: how can one find out what package a given file belongs to?
I mean, even if the package is not installed. This happen to me rather often, 
when some programs tells me that it needs the program "foo", and I have to 
figure out what package contains "foo", so I can emerge it.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
Adam Dunstan wrote:
> im using gcc 3.2.3 and i was woundering if it was still going to brake every
> thing if i use -march=pentium4?
> 

I use it, and i don't have any problem.
i have a celeron 2Ghz ( @ 2,7Ghz :-) )

my flags :
CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

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RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?

2003-08-27 Thread Gwendolyn van der Linden
Hi,

> How do portage determines where a certain package has to be
> installed (eg, /,
> /usr, /usr/local, /opt or whatever)?

That's in the Makefile of the package, and in the ebuild.  From the
user's viewpoint it's predefined.

> Another question: how can one find out what package a given
> file belongs to?

Check out qpkg.  I believe it is in the gentoolkit package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Angel Gabriel
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:03, Stroller wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
> 
> > Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to be
> > delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the next it
> > says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use postfix,
> > (naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about debugging this
> 
> You provide too little information to provide useful help. ESR explains 
> how to ask questions better in this article: 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
> 
> Do you run fetchmail as user or as a daemon..?
> What does your .fetchmailrc say..?
> (Post it complete as an attachment, having edited your passwords)
> What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?

 snip
This is my fetchmailrc

# Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "user"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 60
poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
'user' here

 snip

When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
the pop server, just gone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Angel Gabriel
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:03, Stroller wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
> 
> > Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to be
> > delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the next it
> > says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use postfix,
> > (naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about debugging this
> 
> You provide too little information to provide useful help. ESR explains 
> how to ask questions better in this article: 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
> 
> Do you run fetchmail as user or as a daemon..?
> What does your .fetchmailrc say..?
> (Post it complete as an attachment, having edited your passwords)
> What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?

 snip
This is my fetchmailrc

# Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "user"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 60
poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
'user' here

 snip

When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
the pop server, just gone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Angel Gabriel
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:03, Stroller wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
> 
> > Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to be
> > delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the next it
> > says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use postfix,
> > (naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about debugging this
> 
> You provide too little information to provide useful help. ESR explains 
> how to ask questions better in this article: 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
> 
> Do you run fetchmail as user or as a daemon..?
> What does your .fetchmailrc say..?
> (Post it complete as an attachment, having edited your passwords)
> What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?

 snip
This is my fetchmailrc

# Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "user"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 60
poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
'user' here

 snip

When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
the pop server, just gone.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Van Gale
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:25:56 +0200, Christian Aust wrote:

> Since I definitely emerge grub (and not installed it as a dependency) I'd assume 
> that it 
> should already be in "world". Obviously, it isn't. Why?

I've had that happen a few times as well, so I would just re-emerge and
all was well.  In a few cases it seemed to happen if I built directly from
the ebuild (as in... emerge /usr/portage/dev-xxx/xxx/xxx-1.2.ebuild)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem updating mplayer

2003-08-27 Thread Sigurd Stordal
> >>> our recorded digest: 64e2d18438bbef16822c141d846884f6
> >>> your file's digest: ee26d46d5c52c5e3ac15164e78300b44
> !!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//Blue-1.0.tar.bz2
> Anyone else having this problem ?
Had the same problem. Then I used prozilla instead of wget to get it. Most 
likely the mirror you download from the file is corrupt. So, just try the 
prozilla fetch command in the make.conf file. It should work then.
You have to delete the file first though.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On 27 Aug 2003 11:37:19 +0100
Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:03, Stroller wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
> > 
> > > Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to
> > > be delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the
> > > next it says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use
> > > postfix,(naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about
> > > debugging this
> > 


> > What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?
> 
>  snip
> This is my fetchmailrc
> 
> # Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
> set postmaster "user"
> set bouncemail
> set no spambounce
> set properties ""
> set daemon 60
> poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
>user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
> 'user' here
> 
>  snip
> 
> When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
> the pop server, just gone.
> 

so it should be in your local mailspool. How do you normally check your
email? where do your cron messages get sent?  what happens if you do:

echo "Test now hangup" | sendmail  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"


And did you make sure that such transport worked and was avaiable before
configuring fetchmail to work? (always test each application before
going to the next level. its not good to build systems like this without
testing)

Probably postfix delivers the email correctly, but you don't know how
you configured postfix, nor where your email is stored.  time to see how
to access it. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Chris de Vidal
--- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 18:53, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> > Volunteers needed!
> > http://debtoo.org
> 
> What about Gentoo's best feature: dependency and feature customization 
> utilizing USE flags ? 

According to Gentoo.org, that's not necessarily Gentoo's best feature:
"Larry the Cow was a bit frustrated with Linux. The latest distros seemed to be
just a bunch of the same old stuff. Nothing new - nothing innovative. Then
Larry tried Gentoo Linux. He was impressed. He found a BSD-style ports system
witch a bunch of advanced features. He discovered lots of up-to-date packages
that could be auto-built using the optimization settings and build-time
functionality that he wanted, rather than what some distro creator thought
would be best for him. All of the sudden, Larry the Cow was in control. And he
liked it."

DebToo has:
BSD-style ports system?  No, but apt is close (handling dependancies). 
Apt-build is closer (handling dependancies and building from source).  I'd
rather not recompile _everything_, so I usually use packages even on BSD. 
DebToo will give the user the option not to compile if he/she desires.

Lots of up-to-date packages?  Yep.  Debian "unstable" (quite stable for me,
thank-you) is very current.  Not as current as Gentoo, but certainly more
current than, say, RedHat or Mandrake.  As an ex-RedHat user, it's impressive.

Auto-built using optimization settings and build-time functionality that I
want?  Yep.  Apt-build supports extra compile-time options.

To answer your question:
USE flags?  No, but apt handles dependancies, and I've never installed more
bloat than I wanted with Debian.. the minimum install is tiny; I don't use
Gnome and it didn't get installed for my Gnome apps.  Close enough.

Something you didn't mention: Gentoo lets the user install multiple versions of
one app.  AFAIK this isn't possible with Debian/DebToo; the user that needs
this might want to investigate Gentoo.  I will point him/her at Gentoo.org and
ask them to have a nice day.


A DebToo user will only need to recompile what he/she wants.  Even BSD gives
you this option with its packages.

A DebToo user might like the way Debian does things; I do.  For instance, I
like having 20,000 packages* and very good RPM compatibility with alien.  I
like other things Debian does, and perhaps a new DebToo convert will, too.

* Rough guess, counting the "official" 9000 packages + countless thousands of
"unofficial" user-contributed packages.

There are some things Gentoo does better, I will quickly admit this. 
Nonetheless, DebToo will be quite good at what it does, and offers some things
Gentoo can't.


Use what you like.  I like Debian/DebToo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem updating mplayer SOLVED

2003-08-27 Thread D.J. Bolderman
On wo, 27 aug 2003, D.J. Bolderman wrote:

> I try to upgrade mplayer, but I'm getting this error:
> 
> bash-2.05b# emerge mplayer -u 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/mplayer-0.91 to /
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) MPlayer-0.91.tar.bz2
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-2.tar.bz2
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-)
> >>> svgalib_helper-1.9.17-mplayer.tar.bz2
> 
> !!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
> >>> our recorded digest: 64e2d18438bbef16822c141d846884f6
> >>> your file's digest: ee26d46d5c52c5e3ac15164e78300b44
> !!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//Blue-1.0.tar.bz2

Solved...I emptied my /usr/portage/disftiles and now I can emerge :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread gabor
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:19, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
> Adam Dunstan wrote:
> > im using gcc 3.2.3 and i was woundering if it was still going to brake every
> > thing if i use -march=pentium4?
> > 
> 
> I use it, and i don't have any problem.
> i have a celeron 2Ghz ( @ 2,7Ghz :-) )
> 
> my flags :
> CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

did you tried that famous little python program?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-27 Thread Karl Huysmans
Had the same on one box, solved the problem by adding "after net.eth0"
in /etc/init.d/cupsd.

Probably because this box acts as cups server for others and is told to
listen on eth0.

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 13:17, Frank Hellmuth wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> During the boot I get the message
> 
> Cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
> 
> cupsd dont show in a ps aux. A later call of
> 
> # /etc/init.d/cupsd start
> 
> gives "cupsd already running", but there is no cupsd running and the printing 
> doesn't work. If I call
> 
> # /usr/sbin/cupsd
> 
> by hand everything just works fine. So I guess it's problem with 
> /sbin/start-stop-daemon. I've modified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to enable network 
> wide  printing on my host, that also works without problems. Is it maybe 
> because of that cupsd is started before the network? I've found no entry in 
> the log files. Does anyone know what's going on?
> 
> Frank 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
gabor wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:19, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
> 
>>Adam Dunstan wrote:
>>
>>>im using gcc 3.2.3 and i was woundering if it was still going to brake every
>>>thing if i use -march=pentium4?
>>>
>>
>>I use it, and i don't have any problem.
>>i have a celeron 2Ghz ( @ 2,7Ghz :-) )
>>
>>my flags :
>>CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> 
> 
> did you tried that famous little python program?

not at all, i didn't heard of it !
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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:11, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> --- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 26 August 2003 18:53, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> > > Volunteers needed!
> > > http://debtoo.org
> >
> > What about Gentoo's best feature: dependency and feature customization
> > utilizing USE flags ?
>
> To answer your question:
> USE flags?  No, but apt handles dependancies, and I've never installed more
> bloat than I wanted with Debian.. the minimum install is tiny; I don't use
> Gnome and it didn't get installed for my Gnome apps.  Close enough.

install vim without gpm support included, and there are more.

> Use what you like.  I like Debian/DebToo.

Maybe I should expanded a bit, this is what you get for writing in a hurry:

Don't get me wrong, I use both, Gentoo and Debian, on various machines.

pentium-builder can already do this, no need for new development, and with 
combination of apt-get source it is quite easy.

I just don't understand the need for that new project, it can already be done 
without a problem, for those who want it. This was no attepmt to slam debian 
or praise gentoo. Pooling developer resources for this seems a waste 
specially when both Gento and Debian need man power in other projects (like 
DDTP or debian installer).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?

2003-08-27 Thread Davide Brini
First of all, thanks for your answer.

> Hi,
>
> > How do portage determines where a certain package has to be
> > installed (eg, /,
> > /usr, /usr/local, /opt or whatever)?
>
> That's in the Makefile of the package, and in the ebuild.  From the
> user's viewpoint it's predefined.

If so, how can one change these?
ie, doing something similar to passing "prefix=/something" to the configure 
scripts? How can the user choose where to install some package (if it's 
possible at all, of course).

> > Another question: how can one find out what package a given
> > file belongs to?
>
> Check out qpkg.  I believe it is in the gentoolkit package.

A quick look at the man page shows that qpkg -f only finds files belonging to
INSTALLED packages. To query uninstalled packages the -U flag is used, but -f 
and -U are incompatible. Any other suggestion?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail and Aspell

2003-08-27 Thread Renat Golubchyk
Hi!

On Monday 25 August 2003 03:55, Steven wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I can't seem to get Aspell to work with either Kmail or Kword. Can anyone
> help? I've searched (and posted without response) the forums, but everyone
> appears to suggest procedures that I have already taken... :-\
>
> The error I get when attempting to initiate the spellchecker in Kmail is:
>
> "ISpell/Aspell could not be started. Please make sure you have
> ISpell or Aspell properly configured and in your PATH."
>
> For reference:
>
> *  app-text/aspell
>   Latest version available: 0.50.3
>   Latest version installed: 0.50.3
>   Size of downloaded files: 917 kB
>   Homepage:http://aspell.net/
>   Description: A spell checker replacement for ispell
>
> *  app-dicts/aspell-en
>   Latest version available: 0.51.0
>   Latest version installed: 0.51.0
>   Size of downloaded files: 168 kB
>   Homepage:http://aspell.net
>   Description: English (US, British, Canadian) language dictionary for
> aspell
>
>
> My KDE Spellchecking Control Component is set such that:
> Dictionary is set to: Aspell and Client is set to: Aspell.
>
> Does anybody have any ideas???
Try to set the dictionary to "English" instead of "Aspell default".


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Re: [gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread gabor
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 13:34, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
> gabor wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:19, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
> > 
> >>Adam Dunstan wrote:
> >>
> >>>im using gcc 3.2.3 and i was woundering if it was still going to brake every
> >>>thing if i use -march=pentium4?
> >>>
> >>
> >>I use it, and i don't have any problem.
> >>i have a celeron 2Ghz ( @ 2,7Ghz :-) )
> >>
> >>my flags :
> >>CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > 
> > 
> > did you tried that famous little python program?
> 
> not at all, i didn't heard of it !
> what is it ? :-)

you can read about it here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=43373

to make it short:

start this:

python -c 'int(10.1); int(1.3); int(1.2)'

on a 'normal' computer, it ends without any output.

on the miscompiled pentium4 computers it ends with an overflow error.

so basically if it ends with overflow error, gcc broke python because of
the march=pentium4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] is -march=pentium4 cool?

2003-08-27 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
gabor wrote:
> start this:
> 
> python -c 'int(10.1); int(1.3); int(1.2)'
> 
> on a 'normal' computer, it ends without any output.
> 
> on the miscompiled pentium4 computers it ends with an overflow error.
> 
> so basically if it ends with overflow error, gcc broke python because of
> the march=pentium4.

---# python -c 'int(10.1); int(1.3); int(1.2)'
---#

So i assume my python is not broken :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Chris de Vidal
--- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pentium-builder can already do this, no need for new development, and with 
> combination of apt-get source it is quite easy.

Haven't looked at pentium-builder, but if it's like apt-build, it needs help. 
I'll check it out today.

apt-get source  && cd  && dpkg-buildpackage && cd .. &&
dpkg -i .deb works, but it's manual, and doesn't fetch build
dependancies.  And there's nothing to install a new system with.

> I just don't understand the need for that new project, it can already be done
> without a problem, for those who want it.

The attempt is to combine existing technologies into something new, hopefully
with some value to its users.

> This was no attepmt to slam debian or praise gentoo.

Thanks, I didn't see it as such.

> Pooling developer resources for this seems a waste 
> specially when both Gento and Debian need man power in other projects (like 
> DDTP or debian installer).

The same argument could have been used against Linus for his Minix-like
project, Linux.  It's "just for fun."  If I recall, so was Linux.

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[gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread Leonid Podolny



Hi,
I've recently stopped using alsa, so I removed this 
USE flag. No, as far as I understand, I have to recompile all ebuilds that were 
compiled using it. How can I find out what packages I need to 
recompile?


Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?

2003-08-27 Thread Chris I
On 2003.08.27 08:10, Davide Brini wrote:
First of all, thanks for your answer.

> Hi,
>
> > How do portage determines where a certain package has to be
> > installed (eg, /,
> > /usr, /usr/local, /opt or whatever)?
>
> That's in the Makefile of the package, and in the ebuild.  From the
> user's viewpoint it's predefined.
If so, how can one change these?
ie, doing something similar to passing "prefix=/something" to the
configure
scripts? How can the user choose where to install some package (if
it's
possible at all, of course).
I dont think it is possible. If you look in the xmame-0.72.1 ebuild, 
you'll see that it configures using the ${GAMES_BINDIR} and 
${GAMES_DATADIR}, which are (as far as i know) fairly new to portage.

The new ebuild takes advantage of keeping all the game files relatively 
together in /usr/games, wheras the old one just threw it in with 
everything else.

By default, portage installs everything in /usr, which is proper for a 
package management system. There are a few ebuilds (openoffice, quake 
3, nwn, and blackdown java off the top of my head) that install to 
nonstandard locations.

> > Another question: how can one find out what package a given
> > file belongs to?
>
> Check out qpkg.  I believe it is in the gentoolkit package.
A quick look at the man page shows that qpkg -f only finds files
belonging to
INSTALLED packages. To query uninstalled packages the -U flag is used,
but -f
and -U are incompatible. Any other suggestion?
Portage doesnt know what files the package contains until you build and 
install the package. You could open the ebuild in vim, or your 
favourite text editor and have a look around:

	cd /usr/portage; ls

You should be able to find your way around, possibly with the help of 
"emerge -s"

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Re: [gentoo-user] kspell with kmail?

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Condon
On Monday 25 August 2003 12:50, Steven carved in granite:
> > I have not found a way to automate it, but you can
> > initiate kspell by selecting "Spelling" at the bottom of
> > the Edit menu of the email.
>
> As I compose this email, I have no such option at the
> bottom of my "Edit menu". Further, which package is it that
> comes with "kspell"?

SuSE 8.0 standard KDE install.  I've had it for several SuSE 
revs, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-27 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:05, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> --- Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > pentium-builder can already do this, no need for new development, and
> > with combination of apt-get source it is quite easy.
>
> Haven't looked at pentium-builder, but if it's like apt-build, it needs
> help. I'll check it out today.
>
> apt-get source  && cd  && dpkg-buildpackage && cd ..
> && dpkg -i .deb works, but it's manual, and doesn't fetch build
> dependancies.  And there's nothing to install a new system with.

You can get build dependencies:
apt-get build-dep x

> > I just don't understand the need for that new project, it can already be
> > done without a problem, for those who want it.
>
> The attempt is to combine existing technologies into something new,
> hopefully with some value to its users.
>
> > This was no attepmt to slam debian or praise gentoo.
>
> Thanks, I didn't see it as such.

Good, glad we cleared that one.

> > Pooling developer resources for this seems a waste
> > specially when both Gento and Debian need man power in other projects
> > (like DDTP or debian installer).
>
> The same argument could have been used against Linus for his Minix-like
> project, Linux.  It's "just for fun."  If I recall, so was Linux.

Not quite the same scenario :-), but good luck.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?

2003-08-27 Thread Davide Brini
On 14:34, mercoledì 27 agosto 2003, Chris I wrote:

> By default, portage installs everything in /usr, which is proper for a
> package management system. There are a few ebuilds (openoffice, quake
> 3, nwn, and blackdown java off the top of my head) that install to
> nonstandard locations.

"rar" and netscape plugins also are put in /opt (these are the ones I've seen 
so far).
The reason I asked is that, whith other distros, I used to be able to decide 
myself where things were going to be installed (I tend to install prograns 
from sources when possible, even if the distro I'm using is providing a - 
more or less good - packaging system: I think this gives you the best control 
over what you're doing).

> Portage doesnt know what files the package contains until you build and
> install the package. You could open the ebuild in vim, or your
> favourite text editor and have a look around:
>
>   cd /usr/portage; ls
>
> You should be able to find your way around, possibly with the help of
> "emerge -s"

Ok, thank you very much.
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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild alternatives?

2003-08-27 Thread Ben Anderson
Hi,
I am(actually was) running apache, php, and mysql.  Recently I updated my 
system and now I can't start apache.  I was instructed to use 
revdep-rebuild.  I emerged gentoolkit and ran revdep-rebuild.  It eventually 
freezes after an hour or so of compiling.  I've retried it about 5 times 
with the same result.  Are there any alternatives to revdep-rebuild.  If I 
emerge -C apache, php, mysql and then reemerge, will everything work again?
TIF,
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Fisher
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On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 1:20 pm, Leonid Podolny wrote:
> Hi,
> I've recently stopped using alsa, so I removed this USE flag. No, as far as
> I understand, I have to recompile all ebuilds that were compiled using it.
> How can I find out what packages I need to recompile?
emerge gentoolkit
qpkg -I

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem updating mplayer SOLVED

2003-08-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 20:05, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> On wo, 27 aug 2003, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> > I try to upgrade mplayer, but I'm getting this error:
> >
> > bash-2.05b# emerge mplayer -u
> > Calculating dependencies ...done!
> >
> > >>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/mplayer-0.91 to /
> > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) MPlayer-0.91.tar.bz2
> > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
> > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-2.tar.bz2
> > >>> md5 src_uri ;-)
> > >>> svgalib_helper-1.9.17-mplayer.tar.bz2
> >
> > !!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
> >
> > >>> our recorded digest: 64e2d18438bbef16822c141d846884f6
> > >>> your file's digest: ee26d46d5c52c5e3ac15164e78300b44
> >
> > !!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//Blue-1.0.tar.bz2
>
> Solved...I emptied my /usr/portage/disftiles and now I can emerge :)

You may have solved it but it was overkill. All you needed to delete was 
svgalib_helper-1.8.17-mplayer.tar.bz2. Apologies for not saying sooner.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread Leonid Podolny

> emerge gentoolkit
> qpkg -I
> 

I must have not explained myself too well. I need to see which ebuilds use 
"alsa" USE-flag. qpkg -I doesn't help me here.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem updating mplayer SOLVED

2003-08-27 Thread D.J. Bolderman
On wo, 27 aug 2003, Jason Stubbs wrote:

> > > bash-2.05b# emerge mplayer -u
> > > Calculating dependencies ...done!

> > > >>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/mplayer-0.91 to /
> > > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) MPlayer-0.91.tar.bz2
> > > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
> > > >>> md5 src_uri ;-) font-arial-iso-8859-2.tar.bz2
> > > >>> md5 src_uri ;-)
> > > >>> svgalib_helper-1.9.17-mplayer.tar.bz2

> > > !!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)

> > > >>> our recorded digest: 64e2d18438bbef16822c141d846884f6
> > > >>> your file's digest: ee26d46d5c52c5e3ac15164e78300b44

> > > !!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//Blue-1.0.tar.bz2

> > Solved...I emptied my /usr/portage/disftiles and now I can emerge :)

> You may have solved it but it was overkill. All you needed to delete was 
> svgalib_helper-1.8.17-mplayer.tar.bz2. Apologies for not saying sooner.

Ok, but your reply made me look at the error again, and just now I see
that emerge showed that svgalib_helper was corrupt...I thought mplayer
was the problem :)

Thanks, it will help a next time !

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:20:09 +0300
"Leonid Podolny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I've recently stopped using alsa, so I removed this USE flag. No, as
> far as I understand, I have to recompile all ebuilds that were
> compiled using it. How can I find out what packages I need to
> recompile?

for i in  /var/db/pkg/*/*;
 do 
grep -q alsa $i/IUSE && echo $i 
 done

after this, most of your applications will be broken and can't find
libasound.so, and you have to go through it all and fix.  revdep-rebuild
may be of help.

Have a nice day.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 08/27/03 Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 11:03, Stroller wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 13:32PM, Angel Gabriel wrote:
>> 
>> > Each time I use fetchmail on this one system, mail never seems to be
>> > delivered locally. Even when I send mail from one user to the next it
>> > says mail sending, but nothing ever seems to arrive. I use postfix,
>> > (naturally), and I'm very confused, how would I go about debugging this
>> 
>> You provide too little information to provide useful help. ESR explains 
>> how to ask questions better in this article: 
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
>> 
>> Do you run fetchmail as user or as a daemon..?
>> What does your .fetchmailrc say..?
>> (Post it complete as an attachment, having edited your passwords)
>> What does it say when you run `fetchmail -v -v`..?
>
>  snip
> This is my fetchmailrc
>
> # Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
> set postmaster "user"
> set bouncemail
> set no spambounce
> set properties ""
> set daemon 60
> poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
>user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
> 'user' here
>
>  snip
>
> When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
> the pop server, just gone.

I think you should add "keep" at the end of your .fetchmailrc :
...'user' here keep
until your problem is solved, so at least the mail stays in the server
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[gentoo-user] Berkeley DB

2003-08-27 Thread Alcino Dall Igna Junior
Why Berkeley DB was wiped out?

Subversion uses db4 and linked it statically, why?

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Stroller
On Wednesday, 27 August 2003, at 14:57PM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 snip
This is my fetchmailrc
# Configuration created Tue Aug 19 09:09:30 2003 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "user"
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 60
poll pop3.lycos.co.uk with proto POP3
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mailpassword' is
'user' here
 snip

When i run this mail gets's fetched, but it dissappears, no longer on
the pop server, just gone.
I think you should add "keep" at the end of your .fetchmailrc :
...'user' here keep
until your problem is solved, so at least the mail stays in the server
"fetchall" would probably also be handy for him, so that he can 
repeatedly test his setup.

Gabriel: please run fetchmail with the `-v -v` options, and post the 
optput.

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[gentoo-user] Install Help - Gentoo Load Fails at modules.conf.

2003-08-27 Thread Nicholas Pappas
	Hello all.

	I've felt my way through the install process for Gentoo for my first 
time and everything seemed to work out... but I seem to have missed 
something, somewhere. :(
	When the OS attempts to load, I get an error when trying to mount the 
filesystem.  The system can not find "modules.conf" (it is, infact, 
*not* there).  It complains about that a few more times and then pops up 
this message:

	If the partition table has not be changed, and the partition is valid 
and it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the superblock is 
corrupted and you need to run --rebuild-sb.

	My root parition is ReiserFS (boot is ext3).  I finally get an error 
message:

Warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/ROOT exited with signal 6.
 * Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
	I'm then asked for the root password, so I can try and repair something 
I don't know how I broke in the first place.
	Could anyone please help me out to get my system to boot?  This is my 
first attempt at Gentoo, and I'm a bit confused as to what I should even 
be looking for right now.

	Thank you for any help!!

	Nick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Help - Gentoo Load Fails at modules.conf.

2003-08-27 Thread Christopher Egner
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:33, Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>   Warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/ROOT exited with signal 6.
>* Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
I'm taking a stab at this Nick. Did you ever change the values on your
/etc/fstab?  The default has three entries /dev/ROOT /dev/SWAP
/dev/BOOT. They are there so you know why they are supposed to point to.
You need to point them to actual partitions. So mine has instead of
/dev/ROOT, /dev/hda1.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread keanu
Op woensdag 27 augustus 2003 15:30, schreef Leonid Podolny:
> > emerge gentoolkit
> > qpkg -I
>
> I must have not explained myself too well. I need to see which ebuilds use
> "alsa" USE-flag. qpkg -I doesn't help me here.
>  L.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux 1.4 General Install Question

2003-08-27 Thread Stroller
On Tuesday, 26 August 2003, at 19:45PM, Meph Istopheles wrote:

  Morning Stroller,

  Now, I've been using DiskDruid for partitioning when I set
up, & have used fdisk countless times on different drives for
partitioning, but never during setup...
Drive partitioning & mounting is something that Gentoo doesn't
believe in doing automagically for you.
  Sounds good.  I wonder though, does Stage 3 install offer a
screen for editing fstab?
Erm... when I last installed one used a text editor, `nano -w 
/etc/fstab`. I believe vi is also now included on the install CDs.

Code listing 7.2 shows how to mount a typical simple partition
layout from _within_ the InstallCD chroot.
  Ah, chroot.  I've only used this during rescue operations with
RH.  It'll be odd having to do this as a part of install, but
that's cool.
Let's edit this for your system (for the df -h above, not your
proposed changes, because it's too early in the morning for me
to absorb those right now):
# mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home
# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/gentoo/home
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/backup
# mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/gentoo/backup
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/backup2
# mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/gentoo/backup2
  This is something which caught my eye when I was skimming the
docs:  /mnt/gentoo.  Is this a system thing, or is there a time
one will actually be editing docs & have to remember that
/mnt/gentoo... is required as opposed to /, which is all I've
done with RH, slack & FreeBSD?
I think someone else already answered this, but I can't find it, so 
excuse me if I'm reiterating:

These directories are created _inside the InstallCD environment_ which 
is a Unix filesystem on a CD-ROM. /mnt/gentoo is relative only to 
_this_ filesystem, and not to your root hard-disk.

Once you chroot into /mnt/gentoo /dev/hda2 becomes /, /mnt/gentoo/boot 
becomes /boot and so on. This is just as it is when you boot up the 
system for the first time. Gentoo is hence just like BSD & the other 
Linux distros you are familiar with.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Help - Gentoo Load Fails at modules.conf.

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 15:33, Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>   Hello all.
>
>   I've felt my way through the install process for Gentoo for my first
> time and everything seemed to work out... but I seem to have missed
> something, somewhere. :(
>   When the OS attempts to load, I get an error when trying to mount the
> filesystem.  The system can not find "modules.conf" (it is, infact,
> *not* there).  It complains about that a few more times and then pops up
> this message:

Once you're running, run modules-update. That will build a modules.conf from 
the files in /etc/modules.d/

>   If the partition table has not be changed, and the partition is valid
> and it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the superblock is
> corrupted and you need to run --rebuild-sb.
>
>   My root parition is ReiserFS (boot is ext3).  I finally get an error
> message:
>
>   Warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/ROOT exited with signal 6.
>* Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
>
>   I'm then asked for the root password, so I can try and repair something
> I don't know how I broke in the first place.
>   Could anyone please help me out to get my system to boot?  This is my
> first attempt at Gentoo, and I'm a bit confused as to what I should even
> be looking for right now.

Christopher has already answered this.

Boot with you're gentoo CD, chroot in and fix things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:29, Mike Williams wrote:

> I do :)
> DHCP + djbdns + http://www.thismetalsky.org/magic/projects/dhcp_dns.html
>
> It's all fairly straight forward once you've got your head round djb. I can
> provide more assistance when I've woken up a little (I really shouldn't
> keep my laptop next to my bed...)

Hmm, ignore me, missed the bit about the router doing the dhcp.
Should wake up more before posting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How complete is world?

2003-08-27 Thread Andrew Farmer
At 27 August, 2003 Christian Aust wrote:
> Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:12:19 +0200:
> 
> >On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:59:13 +0200
> >"Christian Aust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> As you can see, grub would be subject to updating, but isn't
> >> recognized by emerge -Dup world. What can I do to resolve this? What
> >> other packages are there waiting to be updated individually? Should I
> >> file a bug? I'm a little irritated. Best regards,
> >
> >If grub is not in your /var/cache/edb/world file it won't be considered
> >as it is not part of the system profile and there is only one package in
> >the tree (grubconf) that depends on grub. Just add sys-apps/grub to your
> >world file and it should be resolved.
> 
> Since I definitely emerge grub (and not installed it as a dependency) I'd 
> assume that it should already be in "world". Obviously, it isn't. Why?

Well, dunno, but if you've got gentoolkit, you can always

emerge -up `qpkg -I -nc`

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[gentoo-user] weird clock skew

2003-08-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
I have the oddest clock skew issue. Whenever I set the time, within a 
day, it jumps forward about 11 minutes, all at once as far as I can 
tell. I don't have anything like ntpd running or anything else to set 
the time. What's going on?

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Re: [gentoo-user] weird clock skew

2003-08-27 Thread Christian Aust
Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:39:21 
-0500:

I have the oddest clock skew issue. Whenever I set the time, within a day, it jumps 
forward about 11 minutes, all at once as far as I can tell. I don't have anything like 
ntpd running or anything else to set the time. What's going on?
I used to have the same issue some weeks ago, although I couldn't exactly pinpoint a 
solution it fealt like some issue with realtime clock support in the kernel and alsa. 
It's back to normal since I compiled a new kernel some time ago. HTH,

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RE: [gentoo-user] weird clock skew

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Knecht

>
> I have the oddest clock skew issue. Whenever I set the time, within a
> day, it jumps forward about 11 minutes, all at once as far as I can
> tell. I don't have anything like ntpd running or anything else to set
> the time. What's going on?
>

I don't know. I have Gentoo on 3 machines. One does this same sort of thing,
although I don't think it jumps, as much as just goes fast. I let it run for
about a month until it was eventually about a day ahead!

I set up ntpd yesterday and things are fine on that machine now. It was easy
to set up.

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[gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the 
keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light on 
or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for the 
problem ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread oleander
On 27 Aug 2003 03:15:12 -0500
Owen Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If he is using dhcp he very well might have to change those hosts
> listings very frequently.  I don't have a good solution either ;)

does the router have the ability to assign certain host numbers to
certain mac addresses? i mean, of couse it has the ability, but can
you configure how it assigns them (i've never used a linksys)? if so
you could do that and then write the same information into /etc/hosts.
not pretty, but it worked for my very static lan.

or, you could take the holistic approach: i'm probably going to be
given the same address i was given last time, for now till the end
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Steven Elling
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:09, Pupeno wrote:
> I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the
> keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light
> on or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for
> the problem ?
> Thank you.

I assume you are using X (Gnome / KDE / etc.).  My system used to kernel 
panic then halt and while in X I would not see that the system did.  I only 
noticed the kernel panic and halt while working at the console one day.  
After I saw it, I ran memtest86 and found I had some bad memory.  Boot off 
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Alan
> I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the 
> keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light on 
> or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for the 
> problem ?

First off, what sort of hardware do you have?  (mb type, chipset, cpu,
speed).  Do you have enough cooling?  Are you overclocking?  

I had some ugly freezes when I put in a A7N8X (asus nforce2 based MB)
due to lack of support.  However, I've been running ac-sources for a
while with 0 problems.  

Another thing to look at is bad ram.  emerge memtest86 and let that run
overnight and see if any errors crop up with your memory.  Another
possible problem.

Personally the two things I've seen that cause linux to crash is are: 
 - unsupported or partially supported hardware
 - bad hardware

What kernel are you running?  Maybe try the vanilla or a "newer" (ie:
ac-sources or gaming-sources) and see if maybe it has support for the
hardware that might be causing the problems.

Run another OS for a while (blashphemy I know) if it's a dual boot box
and see if you have the same problems.  Download a Knoppix ISO image and
burn that and boot with it and run it for a while to see if you have the
same problems.  This might be harder if your freezes are weekly, and not
more frequent of course :)

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread tu . th . tu
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> o
> n 
> or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for the
>  
> problem ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread nmeyers
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> > I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the 
> > keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light on 
> > or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for the 
> > problem ?
  .
  .
  .
> Personally the two things I've seen that cause linux to crash is are: 
>  - unsupported or partially supported hardware
>  - bad hardware
> 
> What kernel are you running?  Maybe try the vanilla or a "newer" (ie:
> ac-sources or gaming-sources) and see if maybe it has support for the
> hardware that might be causing the problems.

I've dealt with random freezes due to badly supported hardware - driver
bugs - for IDE controllers and SCSI controllers. Grabbing newer sources
is one good test. Another is using the NMI watchdog, which can help you
understand the crashes and identify which driver may be at fault. Info
on the NMI watchdog can be found in:

  /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt

It's extremely useful, but only if you're either not running X or using
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail Problem... I think

2003-08-27 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:31:49 +0100
Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> > I think you should add "keep" at the end of your .fetchmailrc :
> > ...'user' here keep
> > until your problem is solved, so at least the mail stays in the
> > server
> 
> "fetchall" would probably also be handy for him, so that he can 
> repeatedly test his setup.
> 
> Gabriel: please run fetchmail with the `-v -v` options, and post the 
> optput.


You need to disable "daemon" for fetchmail -v -v to work..  (Sidenote)

also, 60 second checks are impolite. increase to at least 240 or
preferrably 300 or 600.


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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree and genkernel

2003-08-27 Thread donnie berkholz
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:38, Ing. Martin Gauklitz wrote:
> but after i emerged 'xfree', configured it and tried to start X, i found out, 
> that this kernel config has not activated 'agpgart' by default, that is 
> required by some graphics cards (at least by my onboard intel i810 chipset)... 
>  
> is this the default behaviour of 'genkernel'? or is 'agpgart' only used by 
> onboard chipsets? how does 'genkernel' assumes not to activate 'agpgart'? 
> or is this deactivated by default in all gentoo kernel configs? 

I suggest filing a bug on bugs.gentoo.org to have the default kernel
configs for genkernel put agpgart in as a module with all supported
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 13:24, Steven Elling wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:09, Pupeno wrote:
> > I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the
> > keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light
> > on or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for
> > the problem ?
> > Thank you.
>
> I assume you are using X (Gnome / KDE / etc.).  My system used to kernel
> panic then halt and while in X I would not see that the system did.  I only
> noticed the kernel panic and halt while working at the console one day.
> After I saw it, I ran memtest86 and found I had some bad memory.  Boot off
> the LiveCD and run memtest86 (it is a boot option).

I suspect it is the RAM... I run memtest86 for about 4 hours without finding 
any problem and I had to use the computer... do you think there are big 
chances of memory problems not appearing in the first tests and appearing in 
the latter one with memtest86 ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 13:40, Alan wrote:
> > I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the
> > keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the light
> > on or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start looking for
> > the problem ?
>
> First off, what sort of hardware do you have?  (mb type, chipset, cpu,
> speed).  Do you have enough cooling?  Are you overclocking?
>
> I had some ugly freezes when I put in a A7N8X (asus nforce2 based MB)
> due to lack of support.  However, I've been running ac-sources for a
> while with 0 problems.
I have an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe with 512 MB of RAM 400 MHz and an Athlon XP 2400+ 
(nforce2 based) with a Geforce FX 5200 video card (but I used the xfree 
driver for a lot of time and the freezes didn't stop).
The freezes reduced on frecuency when I changed the ram, but as the other ram 
was slower, I had to run as if I had an Athlon XP 1800+ (only one freeze in 
days while now, I have about 1 or 2 freezes per day).
So, you may confirm by experience that you had problems with gentoo-sources 
(2.4.20) with nforce2 based motherboards ? anyone else had the same problem ?

> Another thing to look at is bad ram.  emerge memtest86 and let that run
> overnight and see if any errors crop up with your memory.  Another
> possible problem.
I did it, but I couldn't let memtest86 finishe (it takes too long). Do you 
think there are big chances of it finding a problem in the last tests ?

> Personally the two things I've seen that cause linux to crash is are:
>  - unsupported or partially supported hardware
>  - bad hardware
Are there any changed that wrongly selection at kernel compile may doing 
something wrong ? (note, due to problems, I don't have power management or 
ACPI compiled).

> What kernel are you running?  Maybe try the vanilla or a "newer" (ie:
> ac-sources or gaming-sources) and see if maybe it has support for the
> hardware that might be causing the problems.
I'm using gentoo-sources (2.4.20-r6), I'll try a newer kernel to see what 
happens.

> Run another OS for a while (blashphemy I know) if it's a dual boot box
> and see if you have the same problems.  Download a Knoppix ISO image and
> burn that and boot with it and run it for a while to see if you have the
> same problems.  This might be harder if your freezes are weekly, and not
> more frequent of course :)
I used another OS here but I don't remember a freeze in it... of course, I 
used it for short periods of time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread John


On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Alan wrote:

> What kernel are you running?  Maybe try the vanilla or a "newer" (ie:
> ac-sources or gaming-sources) and see if maybe it has support for the
> hardware that might be causing the problems.

I had lockup problems with the Gentoo sources...I switched to he vanilla
sources and my problems went away.  I never did go back to the Gentoo
sources to figure out what was causing it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 13:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> > > I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear, the
> > > keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns the
> > > light on or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I start
> > > looking for the problem ?
>
>   .
>   .
>   .
>
> > Personally the two things I've seen that cause linux to crash is are:
> >  - unsupported or partially supported hardware
> >  - bad hardware
> >
> > What kernel are you running?  Maybe try the vanilla or a "newer" (ie:
> > ac-sources or gaming-sources) and see if maybe it has support for the
> > hardware that might be causing the problems.
>
> I've dealt with random freezes due to badly supported hardware - driver
> bugs - for IDE controllers and SCSI controllers. Grabbing newer sources
> is one good test. Another is using the NMI watchdog, which can help you
> understand the crashes and identify which driver may be at fault. Info
> on the NMI watchdog can be found in:
>
>   /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt
>
> It's extremely useful, but only if you're either not running X or using
> an external serial console - so you can see its output.
Unfortunatly, I'm using X and I don't have any serial consoles at hand... is 
there anything that I can still do ?

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[gentoo-user] which kernel (for nvidia)?

2003-08-27 Thread Pupeno
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Hello people... I posted about having freezes in my computer...
I have an Asus A7N8X-Deluxe motherboard (nForce2 based) and an Asus Geforce FX 
5200 Video card. What kernel do you recomend (you used with same or similar 
hardware) to get the best results ? vanilla ? ac- ?
I'm currently using nvidia's drivers for the A7N8X-Deluxe and nforce drivers 
for audio and net (this is really really needed) as well as I patched my 
kernel for nVidia's AGP (the patch is distributed with the nforce driver, for 
agpgart, I think the patch is 2.4.20 only).
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Steven Elling
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:55, Pupeno wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 August 2003 13:24, Steven Elling wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 August 2003 11:09, Pupeno wrote:
> > > I'm having total and random freezes... The mouse pointer disappear,
> > > the keyboard doesn't do anything (not even pressing Caps Lock turns
> > > the light on or off), can anybody give me any clue of where can I
> > > start looking for the problem ?
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > I assume you are using X (Gnome / KDE / etc.).  My system used to
> > kernel panic then halt and while in X I would not see that the system
> > did.  I only noticed the kernel panic and halt while working at the
> > console one day. After I saw it, I ran memtest86 and found I had some
> > bad memory.  Boot off the LiveCD and run memtest86 (it is a boot
> > option).
>
> I suspect it is the RAM... I run memtest86 for about 4 hours without
> finding any problem and I had to use the computer... do you think there
> are big chances of memory problems not appearing in the first tests and
> appearing in the latter one with memtest86 ?
> Thank you.

The "standard" tests will not catch all memory errors, as I found out on 
another system a while back.  If you did not run memtest86 using all tests, 
run memtest86 through at least one pass of all tests.  IMHO, running 
memtest86 through at least one test should be enough to prove the memory is 
good or bad.  Also, before you stop memtest86, watch it for a bit to make 
sure it is doing screen updates.  My system halted a couple of times during 
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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread Steven Elling
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 12:05, Pupeno wrote:

> > I've dealt with random freezes due to badly supported hardware - driver
> > bugs - for IDE controllers and SCSI controllers. Grabbing newer sources
> > is one good test. Another is using the NMI watchdog, which can help you
> > understand the crashes and identify which driver may be at fault. Info
> > on the NMI watchdog can be found in:
> >
> >   /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt
> >
> > It's extremely useful, but only if you're either not running X or using
> > an external serial console - so you can see its output.
>
> Unfortunatly, I'm using X and I don't have any serial consoles at hand...
> is there anything that I can still do ?

If you have an extra machine, you can use it as a serial console.  Just 
connect the serial ports together using a null modem cable.  You can even 
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild alternatives?

2003-08-27 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Ben Anderson wrote:
Hi,
I am(actually was) running apache, php, and mysql.  Recently I updated 
my system and now I can't start apache.  I was instructed to use 
revdep-rebuild.  I emerged gentoolkit and ran revdep-rebuild.  It 
eventually freezes after an hour or so of compiling.  I've retried it 
about 5 times with the same result.  Are there any alternatives to 
revdep-rebuild.  If I emerge -C apache, php, mysql and then reemerge, 
will everything work again?
TIF,
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[gentoo-user] Postfix solution to Sobig viruses (*.pif) etc

2003-08-27 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Hello

If you want an inclusive solution for rejecting Sobig attached emails. 
Follow the link below.  I found it very useful and thought I would share it. 
 Apparently, this takes the load off anti-virus etc.

http://sbserv.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/postfix_sobigf.shtml

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] random freezes

2003-08-27 Thread nmeyers
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:05:50PM -0300, Pupeno wrote:
> > I've dealt with random freezes due to badly supported hardware - driver
> > bugs - for IDE controllers and SCSI controllers. Grabbing newer sources
> > is one good test. Another is using the NMI watchdog, which can help you
> > understand the crashes and identify which driver may be at fault. Info
> > on the NMI watchdog can be found in:
> >
> >   /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt
> >
> > It's extremely useful, but only if you're either not running X or using
> > an external serial console - so you can see its output.
> Unfortunatly, I'm using X and I don't have any serial consoles at hand... is 
> there anything that I can still do ?

I don't know of a way to send the watchdog's output anywhere other than
the console - maybe someone else on the list does. The NMI watchdog
doesn't depend on any OS services (as indeed it must not), so writing
its results to disk isn't possible, AFAIK.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge option for dependencies?

2003-08-27 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
   I'm looking through man emerge but not finding an option to let me
determine which packages on my system would be effected by removing a
package that is currently installed. emerge -Cp gnupg says it would just
uninstall that package. Can I be sure that no other packages will break if I
do this?
   It would be nice in this case to see some sort of tree display of what
uses what, but I think that's not too practical. (If it is, please tell me
how!)
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Tony Rein
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 04:29 am, Mike Williams wrote:
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> > listings very frequently.  I don't have a good solution either ;)
>
> I do :)
> DHCP + djbdns + http://www.thismetalsky.org/magic/projects/dhcp_dns.html
>
> It's all fairly straight forward once you've got your head round djb. I can
> provide more assistance when I've woken up a little (I really shouldn't
> keep my laptop next to my bed...)
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Here's another suggestion: Check into "alias" ip numbers. I'm sorry I don't 
remember the exact syntax under Gentoo (I'm at a RedHat computer right now), 
but it involves the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 file (or net.eth1, net.eth2, 
whatever your card is).

Briefly, what you do is tell Gentoo that when it activates this network card, 
it should get its ip via DHCP (I imagine you already have this set up). But 
you also designate an alias, which can be any ip you choose, although 
obviously you should probably make it an ip unlikely to be given out by your 
DHCP server). For a concrete example, suppose your DHCP server gives your 
laptop, names "marvin," an  address somewhere the 192.168.0.100 to 
192.168.0.199 range. Then you would designate an alias ip of 192.168.0.240 in 
marvin's /etc/init.d/net.eth0,  and put this line in the /etc/hosts files of 
your other computers:

192.168.0.240   marvin

Then, no matter what ip your DHCP server happens to hand out, your other 
computers can find marvin.

I hope this helps.

Tony

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Help - Gentoo Load Fails at modules.conf.

2003-08-27 Thread Nicholas Pappas
	HA!  Thanks Christopher.  "d'oh" I believe is the proper response to 
this.  Changed everything else in fstab, but not that. :)
	Mike, thank you also for the help!

Christopher Egner wrote:

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:33, Nicholas Pappas wrote:

Warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/ROOT exited with signal 6.
 * Filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
I'm taking a stab at this Nick. Did you ever change the values on your
/etc/fstab?  The default has three entries /dev/ROOT /dev/SWAP
/dev/BOOT. They are there so you know why they are supposed to point to.
You need to point them to actual partitions. So mine has instead of
/dev/ROOT, /dev/hda1.


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag dependencies

2003-08-27 Thread Fred Van Andel
"Leonid Podolny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(08/27/2003 05:20)

>Hi,
>I've recently stopped using alsa, so I removed this USE flag. No, as far as I 
>understand, I have to recompile all ebuilds that were compiled using it. How can I 
>find out what packages I need to recompile?

One thing you should remember.  If alsa is installed then portage will enable the 
associated use flag even if it doesnt appear in your USE= statement.  You must 
uninstall alsa first or set USE="-alsa ..." or portage will still include alsa support 
when you recompile.


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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 27 August 2003 18:38, Tony Rein wrote:
> Here's another suggestion: Check into "alias" ip numbers. I'm sorry I don't
> remember the exact syntax under Gentoo (I'm at a RedHat computer right
> now), but it involves the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 file (or net.eth1, net.eth2,
> whatever your card is).

[snip]

> 192.168.0.240 marvin
>
> Then, no matter what ip your DHCP server happens to hand out, your other
> computers can find marvin.
>
> I hope this helps.

Now that is an ingenious solution, filled for future reference!

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RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer

2003-08-27 Thread Vincent van de Camp
OK, I've had partial success. As it turns out (after a four hour power 
outage due to some heavy storms in the area), the  was set 
to Deny all and then Allow all, in that order. After I'd changed that, I 
was able to print from one computer to the print server, but only using 
the kde-print manager, as was suggested.
However, as said, I don't use kde, and I don't want to depend on that. 
There has to be a way to just foomatic my way to the other computer. But 
alas, I haven't found one yet. How would I set up the "-c" part of the 
foomatic statement? lpd? http? ipp? Now that I know my printserver is 
reachable, I know it can be done, just not exactly how...

Rex Young wrote:

 > >I'll have to check on the exact position of Allow from All. I
 > >don't have
 > >telnetd installed, so that's a no go. I can only open localhost:631 on
 > >the cupsd machine itself, I can't get there from another computer (and
 > >yes, I'm NOT using "localhost" to try:) ), it says connection refused.
 > >I've had a hunch for a while that that may be related to the problem.
 > >But now, how to fix it:)
 > >Thanks,
 > >Vincent
 > You might also check the "Deny" directive.  I seem to recall that
 > there is
 > a line that determines the order of these two.  If you have it set
 > "allow,
 > Deny" and Deny is set "Deny from All", of course it would simply block
 > everybody.  I seem to recall that I only made one or two simple
 > changes to
 > the configuration file to allow printing.  If you like, I'll send you the
 > file
 > after I'm home tonight so that you can check the differences or simply
 > use
 > it
 > as you choose.
 >
 > -rex
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Re: [gentoo-user] resolving network name

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Hosiawa
> What model is the Linksys router..?
> 
> Stroller.

Its the linksys BEFW11S4

Tom


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