[gentoo-user] Sharing Printer only among Gentoo systems
Hi all, I'm in a network of Gentoo systems. I'd like to know the best way to share a printer. I imagine that if I was in a mixed network (win/linux) the best was to use Samba but since the systems are only Gentoo, are there other options (more efficient, better options)? Best regards, -- Paulo J. Matos : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instituto Superior Tecnico - Lisbon Computer and Software Eng. - A.I. - http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~pocm --- - God had a deadline... So, he wrote it all in Lisp! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD and Mtools
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 23:35, Brent L Johnson wrote: The mtools (like mcopy, etc) do not come with the default install. They come with the mtools package in app-admin/tools and are included with CD2 of the LiveCD set. How can I install these? I copied all the CD2 packages to /usr/portage/packages and I tried running emerge -k app-admin/mtools but its trying to go download the package from the internet. How can I force it to install from the local disk? Check to be sure you copied the package correctly. It should be directly in /usr/portage/packages/All/ as $package-$version.tbz2. An emerge -kp $package should show binary instead of ebuild on the left side of the term. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] problems with handspring and kpilot
i finally managed to get my handspring to sync with my linux box using kpilot. (whoever said it earlier, they were right, sadly, it IS all about timing). i have a new problem though. while my address book will sync, my memopad and calendar files don't. so i ran kpilot from konsole and got A LOT of output. among wich were the following snippets: kpilot: ERROR: [virtual void PilotLocalDatabase::openDatabase()] : Failed to open /home/gabriel/.kde3.1/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/gabriel/MemoDB.pdb ... kpilot: ERROR: [virtual void PilotLocalDatabase::openDatabase()] : Failed to open /home/gabriel/.kde3.1/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/MemoDB.pdb ... kpilotconduit: Created temp file /home/gabriel/.kde3.1/share/apps/kpilot/ DBBackup/gabriel/AddressDB.pdb.bak for the database file /home/ gabriel/.kde3.1/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/gabriel/AddressDB.pdb ... kpilot: ERROR: [virtual void PilotLocalDatabase::openDatabase()] : Failed to open /home/gabriel/.kde3.1/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/MemoDB.pdb kpilot: WARNING: [virtual void MemoWidget::initialize()] : Can't open local database MemoDB is this enough for someone to tell me what's wrong? should i just wait for kde 3.2 and kontact? -- it's hard not to believe tv it's spent so much time raising us - bart simpson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Data Recovery NEEDED, very important
Hi Redeeman, Nachricht vom Sonntag, 2. November 2003, 13:20:49: something happend, and i lost all files in a dir, i think i know what happend: i had made a link to the directory in a dir, so that i could share it on ftp, but when i removed the link, the dirs content got deleted too, its around 12gb og zip archives, and windows executables. i have NOT wrote to the disk since, in hope it can get recovered, i had a situation before: i had deleted some files in windows though, and i tried ontracks tool, it found files, but with the name b0rked, but runtimes software found with the correct name, this time i tried ontracks and the name was borked again, but runtimes didnt find anything, not even the files on the dir beyond, so i guess runtimes tool is capable of doing it, but maybe some stuff is needed in order to do it. some of you know how i might be able to recover? maybe its best with a linux tool? the filesystem is fat32 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help i will apreciate ANYTHING, and i am willing to pay if some of you can help I would suggest you copy the whole drive bit-wise to another drive of the same size (or bigger) using dd dd if=/dev/brokendrive of=/dev/newdrive You'll then have a copy to work on. Also I have had good results with CIA Unerase http://esd.element5.com/product.html?cart=1productid=502983currencies=USD but that is commercial. They have a test-version that'll show you which files will be recoverable to what percentage. HTH Timo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Making .ebuild
tring to make an .ebuild for tcng but in the make install stage I'm getting errors i.e. tcng install script tries to write outside the sandbox.. This is the problematic part of the Makefile : - install-tcc:tcc check-install-dir scripts/localize.sh ln -sf scripts/localize.sh . tar cfh - $(TCC_BINDIST) | \ (cd $(INSTALL_DIR) tar xf -) cd $(INSTALL_DIR) ./localize.sh rm -f localize.sh $(INSTALL_DIR)/localize.sh - Is there a way to correct this... i.e. what u do when some program tries to write oustside of the sandbox I had some other minor problems such as .ebuild not enetering the correct directory.. so that I have to add cd ./work/tcng and so... -installation log . make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc' make -C ext make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc/ext' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc/ext' [ -r ports.tc ] || make ports.tc make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng/tcc' ln -sf scripts/localize.sh . tar cfh - localize.sh bin/tcc bin/tcc_var2fix.pl lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c lib/tcng/include/tccext.h lib/tcng/include/echoh.h lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h lib/tcng/include/default.tc lib/tcng/include/meta.tc lib/tcng/include/fields.tc lib/tcng/include/values.tc lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc lib/tcng/include/meters.tc lib/tcng/include/ports.tc lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc | \ (cd /usr/bin tar xf -) ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/localize.sh tar: localize.sh: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/bin/tcc tar: bin/tcc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/bin/tcc_var2fix.pl tar: bin/tcc_var2fix.pl: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-module: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-err: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-null: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file tar: lib/tcng/bin/tcc-ext-file: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a tar: lib/tcng/lib/libtccext.a: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c tar: lib/tcng/lib/tcm_cls.c: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c tar: lib/tcng/lib/tcm_f.c: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/tccext.h tar: lib/tcng/include/tccext.h: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/echoh.h tar: lib/tcng/include/echoh.h: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h tar: lib/tcng/include/tccmeta.h: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/default.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/default.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/meta.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/meta.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/fields.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/values.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/values.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/fields4.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/fields6.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/meters.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/meters.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/ports.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/ports.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /usr/bin/lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc tar: lib/tcng/include/idiomatic.tc: Cannot open: Permission denied tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors make[1]: *** [install-tcc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/tcng-9f/work/tcng' make: *** [install] Error 1 !!! ERROR: net-misc/tcng-9f failed. !!! Function src_install, Line 68, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE =
Re: [gentoo-user] Installtion Help: Co-existing with WinXP
Please only send text mails to this list On Sun 2 November 2003 19:40, Belinus wrote: I have a stage 1 install on my Celeron laptop. I followed the instructions on the install guide and I cannot get the installation to boot. The layout of the drive is as follows: /dev/hda1 - NTFS /dev/hda2 - ext3 (Mounts as /boot) /dev/hda3 - ext3 (Mounts as /) /dev/hda4 - Swap I want to use Windows XP's boot.ini as the manager since my machine is majority in Windows anyway. I used bootpart to make a file to load. Now, I can get LILO to work except that it will not boot my linux partition but will boot XP just fine. But when it does work, it breaks the Windows XP boot sector. I have gotten this configuration to work for Slackware 9 but I would prefer to switch to Gentoo for the portage advantage. I am guessing I am missing some sort of step that the LILO install for slackware does behind the installation interface. Thanks, Jon -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE en_gb sttings
Please only send text mails to this list On Sun 2 November 2003 20:14, Simon Windsor wrote: Hi How do I install the English settings for kde. I have triied emerge -p kde-i18-en_GB emerge -p kde-base/kde-i18n/en_GB Any ideas would be appreciated! Many thanks SImon Simon Windsor Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 01454 617689 Mob: 07720 447385 -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Please only send text mails to this list On Mon 3 November 2003 00:30, Alan Watson wrote: Probably a dumb question but I can't get Gnome to start after running emerge gnome. Can anyone humour me and tell me... Thanks, Alan -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Please only send text mails to this list On Mon 3 November 2003 00:31, Brent L Johnson wrote: I'm new to Gentoo.. but try running startx and see if that does the trick? - Brent -Original Message- From: Alan Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Probably a dumb question but I can't get Gnome to start after running emerge gnome. Can anyone humour me and tell me... Thanks, Alan -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Samba encrypted passwords will not work with Gentoo
Please only send text mails to this list On Mon 3 November 2003 00:35, Alan Watson wrote: I am having problems getting Samba to use encrypted passwords on Gentoo. I have tried all the normal resources (read samba mailing lists) with no success. I'm not completely new to the programme having run it previously on an earlier version of Caldera Linux. But obviously without ldap. After creating my password file with: cat /etc/passwd | mksmbpasswd.sh /etc/samba/private/smbpasswd After running the command I then tried to set up my users with: smbpasswd [username] I get the response - New SMB password - which I enter (twice to confirm). But instead of completing I get the errors: LDAPS option set...! fetch_ldap_pw: no ldap secret retrieved! ldap_connect_system: Failed to retrieve password for from secrets.tdb Failed to find entry for user [username] Failed to modify password entry for user [username] Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Alan -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde - where did my panel go ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 November 2003 01:43, Jeff MacDonald wrote: I ran kicker while in Gnome.. I got this, kicker: relocation error: /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9Q GroupBox10setEnabledEb I also tried to run licq, which i have compiled with qt and kde as a use variable.. i get this 21:40:21: [WRN] Licq: Ignoring stale lockfile (pid 5605) 21:40:21: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (kde-gui): /usr/lib/licq/licq_kde-gui.so: undefined symbol: _ZN7QWidget7repaintEb. Granted they aren't teh same error, but they seem to have their similarities. emerge kdebase I used to see this problem all the time when following kde cvs in the earlier 3.1 days. I still follow cvs, but now it's not a problem. I don't think that deleting my .kde directory would do much since i had the exact same error with root and root didn't have a .kde until i tried this, this afternoon. If you lost your panel with root and non-root BEFORE emerging kdelibs then deleting .kde won't do any good. Deleting/moving .kde/share/config/kickerrc before vaping all of .kde might help. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/pjfFInuLMrk7bIwRAiaLAJ9+xZDo+7FyjezTRiHMGYfVRXmyqQCdFgPF 2XGUBWNl9U52HJaoo9B0GoY= =A40i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] secure live cd?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 October 2003 16:04, Christian Schäfer wrote: hi gentoo-user, what will I have to do to make sure only I have remote access over ssh to a box running on the live cd? I have a box with a static ip running on live cd and want to login over ssh and then do the install. all unneeded ports have to be closed. so ssh and rsync open. maybe http. ssh in. rsync http out. what do I need to do to achieve that? thanks in advance! Isn't a password enough for the relative short period of installation? - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/pjjXInuLMrk7bIwRAp/ZAJ9iwBHEvjeR8l3j6rDwev80zMUJxgCeN4sp T8o3a1cgKhnQjctfVTc83BQ= =Padu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing Printer only among Gentoo systems
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 07:19:23AM +, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote: I'm in a network of Gentoo systems. I'd like to know the best way to share a printer. I imagine that if I was in a mixed network (win/linux) the best was to use Samba but since the systems are only Gentoo, are there other options (more efficient, better options)? Cups fits that description perfectly. http://www.cups.org -Mike Arrison pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kde - where did my panel go ?
Well, i got it to work. Basically I think I upgraded a part of KDE right out from under my self. So i found the component parts of the kde meta port and just emerged all of them. I'm back to normal now. Jef. On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 07:10, Mike Williams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 November 2003 01:43, Jeff MacDonald wrote: I ran kicker while in Gnome.. I got this, kicker: relocation error: /usr/kde/3.1/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9Q GroupBox10setEnabledEb I also tried to run licq, which i have compiled with qt and kde as a use variable.. i get this 21:40:21: [WRN] Licq: Ignoring stale lockfile (pid 5605) 21:40:21: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (kde-gui): /usr/lib/licq/licq_kde-gui.so: undefined symbol: _ZN7QWidget7repaintEb. Granted they aren't teh same error, but they seem to have their similarities. emerge kdebase I used to see this problem all the time when following kde cvs in the earlier 3.1 days. I still follow cvs, but now it's not a problem. I don't think that deleting my .kde directory would do much since i had the exact same error with root and root didn't have a .kde until i tried this, this afternoon. If you lost your panel with root and non-root BEFORE emerging kdelibs then deleting .kde won't do any good. Deleting/moving .kde/share/config/kickerrc before vaping all of .kde might help. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/pjfFInuLMrk7bIwRAiaLAJ9+xZDo+7FyjezTRiHMGYfVRXmyqQCdFgPF 2XGUBWNl9U52HJaoo9B0GoY= =A40i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A7V600 SATA - Is this supported by a Gentoo kernel?
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:33, Max wrote: Its no problem at all to use the A7V600 without SATA drives. Check /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/raid to be sure. Andi I'd like to see your hdparm -tT results please? I'm attempting to build a SATA machine this week. I'll post back some results when I get them. - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backups?
Spider wrote: begin quote On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:22:09 -0600 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do 'tar -cjf /tmp/backup.tar.bz2 /home ... ... ...; tar -cf /dev/tape /tmp/backup.tar.bz2'. I really need to backup critical data off of the box, also. Do note that for tape issues its suggested not to use compression, since once you get an error in a block then its far harder to recover partial data, than it is with clean tar files. ofc, theres bzip2recover and other nice utils, but still it poses a problem. I hadn't thought of this. Thanks. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bus error
I'm trying to get the program Charmm to work. On a debian install it works flawlessly if you provide some lib files. If I do the same on Gentoo I get: Bus Error. I tried changing the kernel configuration (I enabled Unix86pty and stuff), copying the various debian libs to Gentoo but to no avail. Does anyone have any experience with this program on this particular linux flavor? thanks, Jernej
Re: [gentoo-user] Data Recovery NEEDED, very important
Hi Redeeman, Nachricht vom Sonntag, 2. November 2003, 13:20:49: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help i will apreciate ANYTHING, and i am willing to pay if some of you can help If this is *really* important, then you should shutdown the machine in question, and call a professional data recovery company. In the UK, there is one called Vogon who have a very good reputation, perhaps they have a branch in your country? It might cost a lot of money, but if the lost data is that important, it is worth it. If you think you might be willing to pay a company to do this, it is important not to mess around too much beforehand - you might just stomp the data and reduce the chances of ever seeing it again. Gareth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Try running gdm or kdm from the console... then choose gnome from the options. cheers, Oscar. Alan Watson wrote: Probably a dumb question but I can't get Gnome to start after running emerge gnome. Can anyone humour me and tell me... Thanks, Alan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
I am only sending text mails to this list. But if someone else sends a NON text email to this list and I reply to it I am FORCED to send it in non-text format. As far as I know there's no way around that in Outlook. - Brent -Original Message- From: Paul Stear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Please only send text mails to this list On Mon 3 November 2003 00:31, Brent L Johnson wrote: I'm new to Gentoo.. but try running startx and see if that does the trick? - Brent -Original Message- From: Alan Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Probably a dumb question but I can't get Gnome to start after running emerge gnome. Can anyone humour me and tell me... Thanks, Alan -- -- This message was sent using gentoo linux and kmail -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Booting Cdrom from floppy?
see man grub / info grub Actually, I found a boot manager that boots anything.. Works much better than grub.. Thanks anyways -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD and Mtools
Hmmm - I copied them as it said under section 25 of the installation document: cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /usr/portage/packages/ I don't see an mtools package located in the packages/All directory. The only one I find is in: /usr/portage/app-admin/mtools Should I be pulling the mtools from somewhere else off CD2 and putting them in the packages directory? There are packages listed under All.. but no mtools. When I run emerge -kp mtools I get: --- These are the packages that I would emerge, in order: Calculating depencies ...done! [ebuild N] app-admin/mtools-3.9.8-r1 --- Thanks, - Brent -Original Message- From: Donnie Berkholz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD and Mtools On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 23:35, Brent L Johnson wrote: The mtools (like mcopy, etc) do not come with the default install. They come with the mtools package in app-admin/tools and are included with CD2 of the LiveCD set. How can I install these? I copied all the CD2 packages to /usr/portage/packages and I tried running emerge -k app-admin/mtools but its trying to go download the package from the internet. How can I force it to install from the local disk? Check to be sure you copied the package correctly. It should be directly in /usr/portage/packages/All/ as $package-$version.tbz2. An emerge -kp $package should show binary instead of ebuild on the left side of the term. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Booting Cdrom from floppy?
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 09:18, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: see man grub / info grub Actually, I found a boot manager that boots anything.. Works much better than grub.. Thanks anyways -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list And this boot manager would be...? -- Matthew Baxa [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://massachusetts.dce.ksu.edu K-State University Office of Mediated Education Applications Services Assistant http://www.dce.ksu.edu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time
Hi, At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared, but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I would say no, but how do i fix this? Patrick -- The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Captain Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text. So I have to use the menu every time. -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson I am only sending text mails to this list. But if someone else sends a NON text email to this list and I reply to it I am FORCED to send it in non-text format. As far as I know there's no way around that in Outlook. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time
I don't know what anyone else does here, but I use tmpwatch to clear that stuff.. its in portage... I set /var /var/tmp /usr/distfiles. None of those directories on my system ever get out of hand. Hi, At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared, but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I would say no, but how do i fix this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Ahh - in the compose window! That little feature of Outlook has always annoyed me. They need Evolution for Windows :) (or I need to find out how to install mtools off the liveCD so I can get my wireless card working!) Thanks for the tip, - Brent -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:32 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text. So I have to use the menu every time. -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson I am only sending text mails to this list. But if someone else sends a NON text email to this list and I reply to it I am FORCED to send it in non-text format. As far as I know there's no way around that in Outlook. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time
sometimes i just delete everything in /tmp, no problems with that :-) On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 16:48, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: I don't know what anyone else does here, but I use tmpwatch to clear that stuff.. its in portage... I set /var /var/tmp /usr/distfiles. None of those directories on my system ever get out of hand. Hi, At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared, but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I would say no, but how do i fix this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ultra10 + 2.6.0-test9 + keyboard (type-6)
Seems keyboard support is a known issue on Sparc64 with 2.6.0-x kernels... Has anyone successfully gotten it to work? (Specifically Type-5/6) The kernel boots into a login prompt, but that is about it. I do have shell access to it via ssh, so if debug info is in order, I can provide it. ~emtty -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
Small correction: Another list member pointed out to me that fomit-frame-pointer isn't enable for any of the O settings for x86 (according to the documentation). I wanted to make sure, so I emailed gcc-help email address. Someone emailed me the following procedure to determine exactly what flags are getting set for the different O settings. To figure out what the differences are between the various optimization settings, do this: touch foo.cpp g++ -O2 -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp cat foo.s Replace -O2 with the one(s) that you are interested in. Compare the differences in the .s files. Make sure you save the foo.s that you are interested to compare against... :-) -Original Message- From: SN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance Well since I had a crash 3 days ago I can tell you what my exerience with CFLAGS: First install: Filesystem: ext3 -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -funroll-loops Note: according to gcc manuall, fomit-frame-pointer finline-functions and all the cra is already turned on by O3 Second install: Filesystem: reiserfs -march=athlon-xp -02 -pipe By accident I was already doing a little test of my own, on the first install, startup time of konqueror, prelinked: 0,7s second install had only 0,6s Also the files, compiled binaries, libs were almost10% smaller. I guess that's one part of the faster startup. After studying the gcc manuall up and down I don't believe, that the gentoo suggested O3 is not the best flag for compiling the whole distro, I think it makes things much worse, only people should use that flag, who already know, that they have certain functions in their programms that will benefit from O3, which in most cases doesn't happen. Also some poeple still believe, that they have to add 50 other flags to their make.conf, cause gcc man shows them. Here is what gcc manual on their HP says: O3 contains: -fforce-mem -foptimize-sibling-calls -fstrength-reduce -fcse-follow-jumps-fcse-skip-blocks -frerun-cse-after-loop-frerun-loop-opt -fgcse -fgcse-lm -fgcse-sm -fdelete-null-pointer-checks -fexpensive-optimizations -fregmove -fschedule-insns -fschedule-insns2 -fsched-interblock -fsched-spec -fcaller-saves -fpeephole2 -freorder-blocks -freorder-functions -fstrict-aliasing -falign-functions -falign-jumps -falign-loops -falign-labels -fdefer-pop -fmerge-constants -fthread-jumps -floop-optimize -fcrossjumping -fif-conversion -fif-conversion2 -fdelayed-branch -fguess-branch-probability -fcprop-registers -fforce-mem Force memory operands to be copied into registers before doing arithmetic on them. This produces better code by making all memory references potential common subexpressions. When they are not common subexpressions, instruction combination should eliminate the separate register-load. Enabled at levels -O2, -O3, -Os. -fomit-frame-pointer Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't need one. This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many functions. It also makes debugging impossible on some machines. On some machines, such as the VAX, this flag has no effect, because the standard calling sequence automatically handles the frame pointer and nothing is saved by pretending it doesn't exist. The machine-description macro FRAME_POINTER_REQUIRED controls whether a target machine supports this flag. See Register Usage. Enabled at levels -O, -O2, -O3, -Os. -foptimize-sibling-calls Optimize sibling and tail recursive calls. Enabled at levels -O2, -O3, -Os. -finline-functions Integrate all simple functions into their callers. The compiler heuristically decides which functions are simple enough to be worth integrating in this way. If all calls to a given function are integrated, and the function is declared static, then the function is normally not output as assembler code in its own right. Enabled at level -O3 So guys please, don't fall for that CFLAG hype, most of these optimization tales are just plain mystery and I'd say 99% of the people, that set CFLAGS don't even know what they are doing, they read posts in threads then they post them themselves and so on. It's just plain crap. Set the right march and O2 and you won't loose over any other distro, if you want fast startup times, prelink will do its job. Also you have to note, that some distros use kernel patches that enhance speed, the kernel from kernel.org ususally is very stable and works for most, but isn't very much tuned to run for best performance. - Original
[gentoo-user] nvidia problems
Hi, I followed carefully the instructions given in the doc to enable my video card to work in gentoo. But when i start the X server, i've got this error message NV:could not open control device /dev/nvidiactl (no such file or directory) (EE)NVIDIA (o): failed to initialized NVIDIA kernel module (EE)NVIDIA(o):**aborting** well,i can see that nvidiactl is missing, but is it normal and does someone knows a way to fix this? thank you for taking time to reply M.B - Courriel expédié via https://courriel.uqtr.ca -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vanilla behaviour in Gentoo Linux (long email)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 November 2003 05:33 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: ** Initially, sent to gentoo-dev but later sent also to gentoo-user for feedback. ** It seems like you got a good idea, and decided to come up with a ton of ideas that are unnecessary and are already built into the system. snip Scenario 1: slocate and updatedb 1) Remove slocate from base system 2) Remove makewhatis from daily cron duties 3) Remove updatedb from daily cron duties I never use this stuff either. Unmerge it and mask it. Problem solved. - Scenario 2: baselayout and /etc/issue - 1) Eliminate /etc/issue and rename it if it must be added to the system What's your issue with /etc/issue? IIRC, it's the MOTD so if you change it, it won't get overwritten (unless YOU do so with etc-update). --- Scenario 3: vanilla kernels and development sources --- 1) Provide the kernel in vanilla fashion without customisations 2) Reconsider using the alsa and vanilla use flags here as they violates the rule of using use flags only for compile time switches. Ummm. Emerge vanilla-kernel? Stock - no patches. No IUSE or USE. It downloads, unpacks. That's it. As to number 2 - there is no rule set in stone enough not to be broken. The kernel sources are a good example of an area where there are a lot of different patches that could be added or removed based on what you have/want/ need. By hardwiring them you create an even worse problem then the one you try to fix with next scenario - a different kernel for every imaginable situation. Also, development-sources is vanilla. Check the ebuild. - scenario 4: kernel sources on portage - 1) Create gentoo patchsets only for finished releases and separate into different sources 2) Provide vanilla kernels as unaltered, unpatched and uncustomised sources just as they would be if done manually 3) Agree on prerequisites that must be fulfilled prior to adding new kernels-sources or in fact any new packages onto portage. Vanilla sources are unaltered - for the most part. If they are not generic enough for you, download and install it from kernel.org. Problem solved. I like the choices in kernel! Just ignore the rest if you don't like them. The install guide tells the newbie installer how to get through it. Besides, according to a recent thread on gentoo-dev, some of the kernel-sources are going away due to lack of maintainers. So, there you go. - Scenario 5: Ebuild speech - 1) Eliminate all use of sleep in ebuilds 2) Eliminate all use of beeps via echo -ne \a 3) Write eclasses or modifications to portage which control logging and display - I have even written a bash wrapper (unfinished) around emerge which does log all output and displays all messages at end of every emerge separated according to package names. 4) If there absolutely has to be sound it must be done through FEATURES=sound. FEATURES=notify can be used for message waits if absolutely necessary. It's a shame that finally EULA's have made ebuilds interactive and sound and message waits are further increasing merge time Not a bad idea at all - in fact, the first one so far that I think would be a great FEATURE - silence. But you don't have to wait for EULA interactivity - and AFAIK it's only on two different ebuilds. Add an ACCEPT_LICENSES line to make.conf - add all the licenses you wish to accept and ebuilds won't stop on license agreements anymore. Check the ebuild (like enemyterritory) for the License Type Overall, I would say vanilla behaviour should always be exhibited by default in all aspects of the operating system in favour of user preference or dev preference. Focus should be on instructing the user on how to make a change rather than making the change and expecting the user to reverse it. Exceptions are where the change is vanilla in itself like providing stock kernel configs to newbie users as genkernel does. Why? This is not a vanilla system - it is a Gentoo System. I expect that the gentoo dev's will make enough modifications to the vanilla to work as expected with the other parts of the Gentoo System. Certain amounts of vanilla-ness are fine, but I would hope the devs would continue to patch the ebuilds and make them work correctly on my system. Do you think that Debian is vanilla? Can you name to me even ONE vanilla distro? LFS - perhaps - but even that will lose vanilla-ness as you make modifications. As I mentioned before, these are issues you can take care of on your own system without modifying everything for everyone. Modify the ebuilds yourself to
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia problems
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 16:15, Michel Bellemare wrote: Hi, I followed carefully the instructions given in the doc to enable my video card to work in gentoo. But when i start the X server, i've got this error message NV:could not open control device /dev/nvidiactl (no such file or directory) (EE)NVIDIA (o): failed to initialized NVIDIA kernel module (EE)NVIDIA(o):**aborting** well,i can see that nvidiactl is missing, but is it normal and does someone knows a way to fix this? thank you for taking time to reply I've had a similar problem after an emerge -Du world after fresh install. I fixed this problem by doing the following: emerge nvidia nvidia-glx genkernel Not sure what exactly was wrong, nor exactly what fixed it. But it did the job for me. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 November 2003 08:15 am, Michel Bellemare wrote: Hi, I followed carefully the instructions given in the doc to enable my video card to work in gentoo. But when i start the X server, i've got this error message NV:could not open control device /dev/nvidiactl (no such file or directory) (EE)NVIDIA (o): failed to initialized NVIDIA kernel module (EE)NVIDIA(o):**aborting** well,i can see that nvidiactl is missing, but is it normal and does someone knows a way to fix this? This is caused by the lack of the NVIDIA module being loaded into the kernel - type lsmod and you should see a line that says nvidia.. Type modprobe nvidia as root - then try startx as a user. If this does not work, you will want to make sure you compiled devfs into your kernel... :-) - -- Matt http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x7D81740A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/poSpZosHVX2BdAoRAqCPAKCL0ZnoH0rbcMzxkS4gHmgmjJpIYwCeOmTA rM8sjyp8r5NU2bVO67pclcM= =S6gb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using new kernel versions
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:02:50 -0800, Jordan Elver muttered: snip, in regard to 2.6.x Do I need to re-emerge ati-drivers? I thought it would use the same modules as th other kernel as listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6? Yes -- 2.6 uses a different module format than 2.4. I don't know if the ebuild can make new-format modules yet, though. Try it and see if it works? (And aren't most of the ATI drivers available in the kernel anyway?) -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] armyopps190
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Was it? It is still listed in portage... On Sunday 02 November 2003 06:30 pm, Chris wrote: does anyone know why armyopps190 was taken off the servers? - -- Matt http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x7D81740A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/pofUZosHVX2BdAoRAqHJAJ9d5hhWw+ShRvbEAL+oc6JGIUG/7ACghoG2 mbAVe3B67+T/QIExKcT+xEI= =5R4h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing Printer only among Gentoo systems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 02 November 2003 11:19 pm, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote: Hi all, I'm in a network of Gentoo systems. I'd like to know the best way to share a printer. I imagine that if I was in a mixed network (win/linux) the best was to use Samba but since the systems are only Gentoo, are there other options (more efficient, better options)? Best regards, I have a mixed windows/linux network - but I don't use Samba, I use CUPS only. It works perfectly.. The Cups support in KDE is stellar - almost as simple as Windows printing. Cups is definitely the way to go. - -- Matt http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x7D81740A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/pogkZosHVX2BdAoRAkbrAJ9qAz1ptLroEUyZlc4zXI2r0JZVwQCgjXdi sgYPXOpZIpIgQmiTrrXlEMo= =Rzn5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel
I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working. Any ideas why this is happening? Im recompiling the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module instead of compiled directly into the kernel. If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten the driver working yet). I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though.. I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge server and just copied it to the floppy. The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a 2.4Ghz Xeon? Thanks, - Brent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [Ardour-users] Ardour won't run on Gentoo
Thanks. I'll check that out. On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:59:15 -0600 (CST) David Snopek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett I. Holcomb said: I'm running the current release of Gentoo Linux and am having trouble getting Ardour to run at all. [ snip ] Ardour/GTK 0.412.0 running with libardour 0.698.0 Loading UI configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour_ui.rc cannot connect to jack server cannot connect to default JACK server ardour: [ERROR]: No JACK server found.client name: ardour Killed There is a bug in the Ardour/Jack ebuilds in gentoo. By default, the jack-cvs ebuild places the sockets/fifos in /tmp and the ardour-cvs ebuild looks for them in /dev/shm. There is a USE flag called something like jack_tmpfs that causes jack-cvs to use /dev/shm as well. You'll have to check the jack ebuild to see what the flag actually is. Of course these two ebuild should be synchronized but they aren't. Personally, I suggest compiling from source. That way you have full control over all the configure options. Thank you. -- David Snopek -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] configure apache2
Hi, someone can help me to configure apache2. I installed apache on gentoo linux and I don't know wich files I have to modify to configure it. I modified /etc/apache2/conf/apache2/conf/apache2.conf when I want to start it I type: #apache2ctl start The pc wait some seconds and it don't show any message thanks!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gcc compile errors
I am trying to compile gcc-3.3.2-r2 and I keep getting this error. Any idea whats going on? TIA. gcc -c -O -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wtraditional -pedantic -Wno-long-long -DHAVE_CONFIG_H-I. -I. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/config -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/../include /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/regrename.c -o regrename.o make[2]: *** No rule to make target `reload.c', needed by `reload.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/build/gcc' make[1]: *** [stage1_build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/build/gcc' make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 354, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
just type: /etc/init.d/apache2 start that will start it the config files is in /etc/apache2 - dont mess with them unless you have special needs, but open /etc/conf.d/apache2 and add -D PHP4 if you want php support, have fun! On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 18:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, someone can help me to configure apache2. I installed apache on gentoo linux and I don't know wich files I have to modify to configure it. I modified /etc/apache2/conf/apache2/conf/apache2.conf when I want to start it I type: #apache2ctl start The pc wait some seconds and it don't show any message thanks!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc compile errors
happend for me too, i just used my old stage tarball (a week older) and it worked perfect On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 18:29, Jon Ellis wrote: I am trying to compile gcc-3.3.2-r2 and I keep getting this error. Any idea whats going on? TIA. gcc -c -O -DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wtraditional -pedantic -Wno-long-long -DHAVE_CONFIG_H-I. -I. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/. -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/config -I/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/../include /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/regrename.c -o regrename.o make[2]: *** No rule to make target `reload.c', needed by `reload.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/build/gcc' make[1]: *** [stage1_build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.2-r2/work/build/gcc' make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 354, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
On November 3, 2003 12:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, someone can help me to configure apache2. I installed apache on gentoo linux and I don't know wich files I have to modify to configure it. I modified /etc/apache2/conf/apache2/conf/apache2.conf when I want to start it I type: #apache2ctl start The pc wait some seconds and it don't show any message apache might already be running (though you didn't start it the way you should). run: # ps ax to see if apache's already in there. it should appear like [apache2]. if it's not, try running this: # /etc/init.d/apache2 and run ps again to see if it's running. if not, there's a problem and you should look in /var/log/apache2/error_log for more info. -- what luck for the rulers that men do not think. - adolph hitler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
On Monday 03 Nov 2003 16:12, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: snip. I wanted to make sure, so I emailed gcc-help email address. Someone emailed me the following procedure to determine exactly what flags are getting set for the different O settings. To figure out what the differences are between the various optimization settings, do this: touch foo.cpp g++ -O2 -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp cat foo.s Replace -O2 with the one(s) that you are interested in. Compare the differences in the .s files. Make sure you save the foo.s that you are interested to compare against... :-) That's interesting. I just tried that. I could find no difference at all between these two: $ g++ -Os -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp $ g++ -O2 -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp ...which somewhat surprised me $ g++ -O3 -save-temps -fverbose-asm -c foo.cpp ...gave an extra -frename-registers I'll stick with this one: CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre8-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
- Mensaje Original -Remitente: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]Destinatario: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fecha: Lunes, Noviembre 3, 2003 6:33pmAsunto: Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2just type:/etc/init.d/apache2 startthat will start itthe config files is in /etc/apache2 - dont mess with them unless youhave special needs, but open /etc/conf.d/apache2 and add -D PHP4 if youwant php support, have fun! I do it and pc shows: *starting apache2... [!!] Why it don't show [OK] ??? On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 18:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, someone can help me to configure apache2. I installed apache on gentoo linux and I don't know wich files I have to modify to configure it. I modified /etc/apache2/conf/apache2/conf/apache2.conf when I want to start it I type: #apache2ctl start The pc wait some seconds and it don't show any message thanks!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list-- Regards, Redeeman() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments--[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
something is wrong then, maybe your hostname or something, check configs in /etc/apache2/conf and try again On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 18:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Destinatario: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Lunes, Noviembre 3, 2003 6:33pm Asunto: Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2 just type: /etc/init.d/apache2 start that will start it the config files is in /etc/apache2 - dont mess with them unless you have special needs, but open /etc/conf.d/apache2 and add -D PHP4 if you want php support, have fun! I do it and pc shows: *starting apache2... [!!] Why it don't show [OK] ??? On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 18:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, someone can help me to configure apache2. I installed apache on gentoo linux and I don't know wich files I have to modify to configure it. I modified /etc/apache2/conf/apache2/conf/apache2.conf when I want to start it I type: #apache2ctl start The pc wait some seconds and it don't show any message thanks!! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
On Monday 03 Nov 2003 17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pnbsp;/P Pnbsp;/P Pnbsp;/P Pnbsp;/P Pnbsp;/P WTF is all this crap? Your html is not exactly welcome here. Can you tell? Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre8-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
Le Lundi 3 Novembre 2003 00:26, SN a écrit : -fomit-frame-pointer Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't need one. This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many functions. It also makes debugging impossible on some machines. On some machines, such as the VAX, this flag has no effect, because the standard calling sequence automatically handles the frame pointer and nothing is saved by pretending it doesn't exist. The machine-description macro FRAME_POINTER_REQUIRED controls whether a target machine supports this flag. See Register Usage. Enabled at levels -O, -O2, -O3, -Os. That is true BUT man gcc says also : snip -O also turns on -fomit-frame-pointer on machines where doing so does not interfere with debugging. /snap and it does interfere on x86 architecture so it is not turned on by default on x86 at least. Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cvs update for kde
I'm trying to do a kde update (complete) through cvs. How do I make sure I have all the dependencies, update the dependencies, and then compile my updates without starting everything over and over and over again. I keep trying to do it but it stops saying I need this version of this then that version of that. If I didn't shave my head, I wouldn't have any hair left. :( Steve
Re: [gentoo-user] configure apache2
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 17:49, Peter Ruskin wrote: WTF is all this crap? Now hang on! That's a bit strong! Your html is not exactly welcome here. Can you tell? And nor is that attitude! This user has made 2 previous posts. Neither previous post mentioned that this user should not use HTML formatted email. As such I would conclude this user was ignorant that such formatting is frowned apon by sections of the community. If a user ignores requests to format emails correctly then go all guns, but try not to include the whole list unless necessary. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE - Konqueror history bar empty
Hi I have just build KDE and everything is going well, with a few very minor glitches. The most annoying one at the moment is the Konqueror History bar. It only ever has the current URL in it. Does anyone know how I can set it to save the last 20 (+) web sites I have visited? Finally, I have been using UNIX for 15 years, Linux for 8+ years, and until recently I was convinced that Debian was the best Linux distro. I may still be convinced of that for servers, but for desktop/play box Gentoo is fantastic! Well done to everyone involved. Simon -- Smon Windsor Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 01454 617689 Mob: 07720 447385 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Paul K. Dickson wrote: Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! Here is a howto in Italian : http://www.gentoo.it/tips/FramebufferAndBoot.html I couldn't find a english translation. Maybe try with google...! Best wishes, Fabien -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
Hi all, would it be possible to make an ISO of the Gentoo LiveCD, mount this ISO in some way, add some contents to it and burn it to a CD, so that it is still bootable and I can install from it, plus have all my added tools on this CD, so that I can copy them to the new system after installation? Greetings, Matthias -- It's a fixer-upper. What's the problem? We get a bunch of priests in here ... -- Homer Simpson Treehouse of Horror -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
the gentoo forum has alot nice info, there is a tutorial, and it works, i did it myself :-) On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 19:44, Fabien Fivaz wrote: Paul K. Dickson wrote: Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! Here is a howto in Italian : http://www.gentoo.it/tips/FramebufferAndBoot.html I couldn't find a english translation. Maybe try with google...! Best wishes, Fabien -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
is it http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 your after? :) Stefan - Original Message - From: Paul K. Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:34 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
Let me know how ya do it when you figure it out. I wouldn't mind being able to add some things myself.. I would think you could, I just have not actually done it since I found a different cd off freshmeat... You don't have to use the gentoo cd to install gentoo, it doesn't matter what cd you use as long as it have a recent kernel and the tools you need up to chroot. Hi all, would it be possible to make an ISO of the Gentoo LiveCD, mount this ISO in some way, add some contents to it and burn it to a CD, so that it is still bootable and I can install from it, plus have all my added tools on this CD, so that I can copy them to the new system after installation? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Paul, Here is a link to the Gentoo Framebuffer, Bootsplash Grubsplash How-to: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 This might also be useful if you were looking for the bootsplash with progress bar found on the 1.4 LiveCD: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=100620 Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Paul K. Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
On Nov 2, 2003, at 10:13 pm, William Kenworthy wrote: There was actually a lot of misinformation and pure rubbish spread on this list about that ... I was present and can say what was done. In that case, debian and Mandrake WERE faster than gentoo - the figures are there in black and white. There was some good reasons for that result And you address the one I had in mind by using the same kernel on all three machines in your revisited article. But to suggest, as the original article did, that these distributions are faster than Gentoo is NOT empirical when the distros tested have such a glaring difference between them. As you know, the Gentoo-sources (with pre-empt patches) kernel was tested in the original article against another with Redhat's patch-set. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
Matthias, Have you checked out this article on hacking the LiveCD? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=21327 Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Matthias F. Brandstetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD? Hi all, would it be possible to make an ISO of the Gentoo LiveCD, mount this ISO in some way, add some contents to it and burn it to a CD, so that it is still bootable and I can install from it, plus have all my added tools on this CD, so that I can copy them to the new system after installation? Greetings, Matthias -- It's a fixer-upper. What's the problem? We get a bunch of priests in here ... -- Homer Simpson Treehouse of Horror -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Stage 1 install /w Lucent Winmodem
I use a Lucent Winmodem, and have a tarball of the source code for the drivers. I can get the modem to work most of the time. What I need to be able to do is compile modules and install them using 'insmod' before I can use the modem. Is this possible to do in a Stage 1 install? Will it let me insert modules? -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using new kernel versions
On Monday 03 November 2003 16:49, Andrew Farmer wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:02:50 -0800, Jordan Elver muttered: snip, in regard to 2.6.x Do I need to re-emerge ati-drivers? I thought it would use the same modules as th other kernel as listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6? Yes -- 2.6 uses a different module format than 2.4. I don't know if the ebuild can make new-format modules yet, though. Try it and see if it works? They must as it currently works, just not with a new 2.6 kernel I installed. I'm already running an eariler 2.6 kernel. (And aren't most of the ATI drivers available in the kernel anyway?) Not sure that the kernel drivers are ok for my card, a Radeon 9500. From what I've read, ati-drivers are the way to go (and they work!) Does anyone know of a good guide that explains which files should point where etc? Thanks, Jord -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE - Konqueror history bar empty
On Monday 03 Nov 2003 18:33, Simon Windsor wrote: Hi I have just build KDE and everything is going well, with a few very minor glitches. The most annoying one at the moment is the Konqueror History bar. It only ever has the current URL in it. Does anyone know how I can set it to save the last 20 (+) web sites I have visited? Finally, I have been using UNIX for 15 years, Linux for 8+ years, and until recently I was convinced that Debian was the best Linux distro. I may still be convinced of that for servers, but for desktop/play box Gentoo is fantastic! Well done to everyone involved. I assume you mean the History Sidebar, accessed by [F9]? Konqueror - Settings - Configure Konqueror - History Sidebar then. Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre8-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backups? abetter way?
Here is what i use from crontab once a day:
it makes a space efficient copy of every file, and every version so i can retrieve any previous version, best to put the target snapshot directory on a different drive. adapted from: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:$PATH
SNAPSHOTS=/home/hans/.snapshots
DIR=/home/hans/sheets
#---
mtime()
#---
{
echo $1 | perl -e'
use strict;
my $line;
my $dev;
my $ino;
my $mode;
my $nlink;
my $uid;
my $gid;
my $rdev;
my $size;
my $atime;
my $mtime;
my $ctime;
my $blksize;
my $blocks;
my $sec;
my $min;
my $hour;
my $mday;
my $mon;
my $year;
my $wday;
my $yday;
my $mtime_string;
my @days = (Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat);
my @months = (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug,
Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec);
while ( $line = STDIN ) {
chomp($line);
($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink,$uid,$gid,$rdev,$size,
$atime,$mtime,$ctime,$blksize,$blocks) = stat($line);
($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday) = localtime($mtime);
$year = $year + 1900;
$mon = $mon +1;
printf (%.4d%.2d%.2d%.2d%.2d%.2d,$year,$mon,$mday,$hour,$min,$sec);
$mtime_string = localtime($mtime);
print -$mtime-;
print $days[$wday]-;
print $months[$mon-1]-;
printf (%.2d-%.2d:%.2d:%.2d-%.4d,$mday,$hour,$min,$sec,$year);
}
'
}
mkdir -p $SNAPSHOTS
if [ -d $SNAPSHOTS/latest ]
then
T=`mtime $SNAPSHOTS/latest`
echo making snapshot $T
cp -al $SNAPSHOTS/latest $SNAPSHOTS/$T
fi
LOG=/tmp/.log$$
rm -fr $LOG
date $LOG
rsync -vaW --delete --exclude '*.glimpse*' --delete-excluded \
--modify-window 61 $DIR/ $SNAPSHOTS/latest/ $LOG
mv $LOG $SNAPSHOTS/latest/.snapshotlog
touch $SNAPSHOTS/latest
RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel
OK I'm getting close to giving up and loading redhat again I think. I changed my kernel configuration to load PCMCIA support as a module and ran genkernel again. Now at bootup time I get the following errors (repeatedly): /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be cause by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or output from dmesg. /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed * Starting pcmcia... cardmgr[819]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices Anyone have any ideas? This is the 3rd time I've tried rebuilding the kernel after tweaking the PCMCIA settings. Also.. it would help if I could search the forums but gentoo's forum system never sent me my activation email even though I used the correct address. So if anyone from Gentoo is reading this you may want to check on that. - Brent -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working. Any ideas why this is happening? Im recompiling the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module instead of compiled directly into the kernel. If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten the driver working yet). I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though.. I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge server and just copied it to the floppy. The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a 2.4Ghz Xeon? Thanks, - Brent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Wow I never knew it really did anything. Running the install on my laptop gives me a display error so I either have to use the nofb kernel or hit the spacebar to continue after the error in normal mode. - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Paul, Here is a link to the Gentoo Framebuffer, Bootsplash Grubsplash How-to: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 This might also be useful if you were looking for the bootsplash with progress bar found on the 1.4 LiveCD: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=100620 Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Paul K. Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Yes, but if you are replying to an email with HTML in it, it won't use plain text. -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Actually, if you tell it to convert (yes, by hand) Outlook 2000 will just warn you that you'll lose formatting when you convert html to text. It works fine. I have to do it about 50 times per week on all these lists. I haven't tried it, but there is an option in Outlooks contact sections where, on a contact by contact basis you can tell it to use plain text. I don't know if it will convert a reply automatically though. - Mark -Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:28 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Yes, but if you are replying to an email with HTML in it, it won't use plain text. -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Brent, Which kernel are you currently using? You will need FrameBuffer support compiled into your kernel in order to take advantage of the boot splash feature. Did you go through the how-to in the first link? Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Wow I never knew it really did anything. Running the install on my laptop gives me a display error so I either have to use the nofb kernel or hit the spacebar to continue after the error in normal mode. - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Paul, Here is a link to the Gentoo Framebuffer, Bootsplash Grubsplash How-to: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 This might also be useful if you were looking for the bootsplash with progress bar found on the 1.4 LiveCD: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=100620 Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Paul K. Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuild for Netjuke.....
Does anyone know of an ebuild for Netjuke? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Sorry - it didnt work off the LiveCD during installation. Not that I needed it really.. but it failed and then gave me some splash error. No biggie.. Im more concerned with my PCMCIA woes.. I'm about ready to throw my laptop out the window into the front yard. If I can get that working I'll move on the framebuffer support and a splash image :) Thanks, - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Brent, Which kernel are you currently using? You will need FrameBuffer support compiled into your kernel in order to take advantage of the boot splash feature. Did you go through the how-to in the first link? Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Wow I never knew it really did anything. Running the install on my laptop gives me a display error so I either have to use the nofb kernel or hit the spacebar to continue after the error in normal mode. - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Paul, Here is a link to the Gentoo Framebuffer, Bootsplash Grubsplash How-to: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 This might also be useful if you were looking for the bootsplash with progress bar found on the 1.4 LiveCD: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=100620 Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Paul K. Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
Yes but this setting gets overridden.. as you can see Im sending plain text now. Its overridden if you're replying to someone who didnt use plain text. You have to do like someone suggested earlier and once you hit reply go to Format - Plain Text. - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:32 pm, Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: In the format menu, just click plain text. It will convert an html email to plain text. As far as I know, there isn't an option that forces outlook to always use plain text... I'm pretty sure there is, in preferences, but I don't have Outlook handy to check. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] IBS AS 400 eSeries
Greetings, Has anyone been able to build Gentoo, or any Linux distro, for IBM AS 400? http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246232.html? Open Ibm's redbox is a good place to start. I had a box I could play with for a while that was going to load SuSE on, but paying projects for our customers kept me from trying. Don't have a box to load it on anymore, but hopefully I'll get a chance sometime early next year. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild for Netjuke.....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 November 2003 12:51 pm, Steve wrote: Does anyone know of an ebuild for Netjuke? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list It looks as if an ebuild was submitted back in April - but it does not look like it was ever entered into the portage tree. You can download and install this yourself - and with a little tweaking it should run the latest version and also install correctly into the new web-apps home (/var/www/localhost I believe).. If you do tweak it, resubmit it on this bug and it might actually be introduced into portage. The screenshots on netjukes website look pretty nice! http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18609 is the bug with the ebuild/ digest/updates as attachments. - -- Matt http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x7D81740A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/psVGZosHVX2BdAoRAsDvAJ9QAZj6XOSFVucZEZKuBfLjOcIY8gCfeNP+ Sm3QGtj3ldazTcwIGmu0s2s= =uz7F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel
Brent, If you are still compiling PCMCIA as a module, are you loading the pcmcia_core module prior to loading the ds module? BTW, when I have needed PCMCIA in the past, I have always compiled it statically. Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel OK I'm getting close to giving up and loading redhat again I think. I changed my kernel configuration to load PCMCIA support as a module and ran genkernel again. Now at bootup time I get the following errors (repeatedly): /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be cause by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or output from dmesg. /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed * Starting pcmcia... cardmgr[819]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices Anyone have any ideas? This is the 3rd time I've tried rebuilding the kernel after tweaking the PCMCIA settings. Also.. it would help if I could search the forums but gentoo's forum system never sent me my activation email even though I used the correct address. So if anyone from Gentoo is reading this you may want to check on that. - Brent -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working. Any ideas why this is happening? Im recompiling the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module instead of compiled directly into the kernel. If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten the driver working yet). I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though.. I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge server and just copied it to the floppy. The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a 2.4Ghz Xeon? Thanks, - Brent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cuecat barcode reader
Is anybody successfully using a cuecat barcode reader under gentoo? I applied the 2.4.21 patch to vanilla-sources-2.4.22, but it doesn't seem to be working properly. It is possible that there are changes from 2.4.21 to 2.4.22 that require modifications to the patch, but it applied quite cleanly... Any help would be appreciated, I have a LOT of books that need cataloging :-) -- Craig West Ph: (416) 666-1645 | It's not a bug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It's a feature... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel
I got past it I think (thankfully.. I just read that Redhat is dumping their free Linux dist and will no longer be going past RH9). First when it failed I had it compiled in.. along with some of the drivers listed (even though I really didnt need them). It didnt work.. so I went to having it as a module.. got some nasty errors. I recompiled with minimal PCMCIA options set and went back to compiling it in the kernel rather than as a module and I'm now getting a power light on the Linksys WPC11.. yay! And I got the Realtek drivers installed and I can see it in iwconfig. Now to configure it.. should be cake from here (uh huh.. I just jinxed myself). Thanks, - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel Brent, If you are still compiling PCMCIA as a module, are you loading the pcmcia_core module prior to loading the ds module? BTW, when I have needed PCMCIA in the past, I have always compiled it statically. Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel OK I'm getting close to giving up and loading redhat again I think. I changed my kernel configuration to load PCMCIA support as a module and ran genkernel again. Now at bootup time I get the following errors (repeatedly): /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be cause by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or output from dmesg. /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed * Starting pcmcia... cardmgr[819]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices Anyone have any ideas? This is the 3rd time I've tried rebuilding the kernel after tweaking the PCMCIA settings. Also.. it would help if I could search the forums but gentoo's forum system never sent me my activation email even though I used the correct address. So if anyone from Gentoo is reading this you may want to check on that. - Brent -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working. Any ideas why this is happening? Im recompiling the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module instead of compiled directly into the kernel. If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten the driver working yet). I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though.. I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge server and just copied it to the floppy. The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a 2.4Ghz Xeon? Thanks, - Brent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Rebuilding kernel module ebuilds
Some time ago, somebody posted a script to re-emerge any ebuilds for kernel modules after recompiling the kernel. alsa-driver and pcmcia-cs come to mind as likely candidate ebuilds. I have been trying to find this script both in the list archives and on the forums but have had no luck. Does this ring a bell with anybody? -- Craig West Ph: (416) 666-1645 | It's not a bug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It's a feature... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Brent: I think you are looking for this thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=26716highlight=pcmcia+nic Good luck. Kevin On Monday 03 November 2003 1:29 pm, Brent L Johnson wrote: I got past it I think (thankfully.. I just read that Redhat is dumping their free Linux dist and will no longer be going past RH9). First when it failed I had it compiled in.. along with some of the drivers listed (even though I really didnt need them). It didnt work.. so I went to having it as a module.. got some nasty errors. I recompiled with minimal PCMCIA options set and went back to compiling it in the kernel rather than as a module and I'm now getting a power light on the Linksys WPC11.. yay! And I got the Realtek drivers installed and I can see it in iwconfig. Now to configure it.. should be cake from here (uh huh.. I just jinxed myself). Thanks, - Brent -Original Message- From: Luke Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel Brent, If you are still compiling PCMCIA as a module, are you loading the pcmcia_core module prior to loading the ds module? BTW, when I have needed PCMCIA in the past, I have always compiled it statically. Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel OK I'm getting close to giving up and loading redhat again I think. I changed my kernel configuration to load PCMCIA support as a module and ran genkernel again. Now at bootup time I get the following errors (repeatedly): /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be cause by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or output from dmesg. /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ds.o: insmod ds failed * Starting pcmcia... cardmgr[819]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices Anyone have any ideas? This is the 3rd time I've tried rebuilding the kernel after tweaking the PCMCIA settings. Also.. it would help if I could search the forums but gentoo's forum system never sent me my activation email even though I used the correct address. So if anyone from Gentoo is reading this you may want to check on that. - Brent -Original Message- From: Brent L Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA with new Kernel I compiled PCMCIA support into a new kernel and when I reboot I get no lights on my linksys wpc11 v4 wireless pc card.. as though PCMCIA support isnt working. Any ideas why this is happening? Im recompiling the kernel now and specifying PCMCIA support as a module instead of compiled directly into the kernel. If I boot from the LiveCD and use the dopcmcia boot option the light on my Linksys WPC11 v4 comes on and it sees the card in the slot (not correctly of course.. since I havent gotten the driver working yet). I got my driver over to the machine without MTools though.. I just formatted the floppy to ext2 fs on my dell poweredge server and just copied it to the floppy. The server is running Redhat.. its a shame too.. Im thinking of running Gentoo on that baby.. will Gentoo run on a 2.4Ghz Xeon? Thanks, - Brent -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - -- Kevin Miller, Jr. Masters of Public Affairs, Comparative and International Affairs, Information Systems, and Nonprofit Management, School of Public and Environmental Affairs Indiana University - Bloomington http://www.amerasianworld.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 812-219-5047 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/piDjP2TQUAjSykARAn5oAJ95kjwbAJ3zmErN0WuHtBTISBImxACeIvzi SIYKGg28/1eMj1kITojkrwQ= =ZhVa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuilding kernel module ebuilds
On Monday 03 Nov 2003 21:32, A. Craig West wrote: Some time ago, somebody posted a script to re-emerge any ebuilds for kernel modules after recompiling the kernel. alsa-driver and pcmcia-cs come to mind as likely candidate ebuilds. I have been trying to find this script both in the list archives and on the forums but have had no luck. Does this ring a bell with anybody? Yes, this is the script that finds ebuilds that depend on kernel version: # #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/bin/kernel-deps # list the ebuilds that depend on kernel version. # suggested by Georgi Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] for i in `grep -l ' /lib/modules/' /var/db/pkg/*/*/CONTENTS`; do ii=`dirname $i`; cat $ii/COUNTER; echo $ii; done | sort -n | cut -f5,6 -d/ | sed -e 's/^/=/' # ...then you can use, for example: kernel-deps | env AUTOCLEAN=no ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 xargs emerge Peter -- == Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r1, 2.4.23_pre8-gss) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] GCC error
Hallo, I tried to emerge gnugo, but during the compilation gcc give me this error: cc1: error: unrecognized option `-lang-c89' I know that c89 is the first standard for c, I searched for this option into the gcc man, but I found nothing, how can I correct this? Thanks, Pietro -- I will build myself a copper tower With four ways out and no way in But mine the glory, mine the power (So I chose Amiga and GNU/Linux) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD 1.4 boot splash screen
Here's a howto http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036 On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 19:34, Paul K. Dickson wrote: Can someone tell me what the program is that provides that sweet boot screen and console 'window'? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
-- quoting Luke Davison -- Matthias, Have you checked out this article on hacking the LiveCD? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=21327 no, not yet, but I will check it out! Thanks alot for this tip! Greets, Matthias -- Look, Marge, I'm sorry I haven't been a better husband, I'm sorry about the time I tried to make gravy in the bathtub, I'm sorry I used your wedding dress to wax the car, and I'm sorry -- oh well, let's just say I'm sorry for the whole marriage up to this point. -- Homer Simpson Marge on the Lam -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cervisia
Does anyone know why cervisia disappeared from the portage tree? It was in a couple of months back (I can check back on the Internet), but it is out now... -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cervisia
Guy, Cervisia is part of the code KDE distribution (as of KDE 3). You should be able to get it from kde-base/kdesdk. Regards, Luke -Original Message- From: Guy Van Sanden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] cervisia Does anyone know why cervisia disappeared from the portage tree? It was in a couple of months back (I can check back on the Internet), but it is out now... -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Making .ebuild
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 02:53, raptor wrote:
tring to make an .ebuild for tcng but in the make install stage I'm getting errors
i.e. tcng install script tries to write
outside the sandbox..
This is the problematic part of the Makefile :
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install-tcc:tcc check-install-dir scripts/localize.sh
ln -sf scripts/localize.sh .
tar cfh - $(TCC_BINDIST) | \
(cd $(INSTALL_DIR) tar xf -)
cd $(INSTALL_DIR) ./localize.sh
rm -f localize.sh $(INSTALL_DIR)/localize.sh
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The problem here is that INSTALL_DIR is set to /usr/bin. In order to
build inside the sandbox you need to install everything under the ${D}
image tree. From the list of files that are being installed it looks
like you probably want INSTALL_DIR to be ${D}/usr . You can try passing
INSTALL_DIR=${D}/usr to make in the ebuild.
Good Luck,
Doug
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stage 1 install /w Lucent Winmodem
no, you must first isntall the kernel, reboot and later on compile the Lucent Winmodem drivers. The best way to load it is to use modprobe. Zee - Original Message - From: Joey Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Stage 1 install /w Lucent Winmodem I use a Lucent Winmodem, and have a tarball of the source code for the drivers. I can get the modem to work most of the time. What I need to be able to do is compile modules and install them using 'insmod' before I can use the modem. Is this possible to do in a Stage 1 install? Will it let me insert modules? -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo box hung - how to debug?
-Original Message- From: Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo box hung - how to debug? He should try a memory test, if he doesn't think his recent merges (or heat) are causing the problem. -Nathan Hi, The machine ran for 5 days straight with no problems, and then locked up once again this weekend. SetiAtHome was running most of the time without problems. Frankly, I'm not sure if it was running when the machine locked up. I've downloaded and burned a CD copy of memtest86, so I'll look at running that over the next few days, but it takes a long time to run, so no idea when I'll get an answer back from that. Thanks for your ideas. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backups?
On Monday 03 November 2003 02:05, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: What do people do / recommend for backing up? a scsi tape drive from ebay, some quality tapes, tar ;o) -- Conclusions In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug. Even with its numerical advantage removed, the Empire would still squash the Federation like a bug. Accept it. -Michael Wong -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bad gentoo performance
Fact: take 3 distros, install to the reccomended settings (as far as is practical) and see which is faster. Gentoo was slowest. At the time (is it still the case?) -O3 was being reccomended for gentoo in general, celerons in particular (was a few months back now!) This flag has a rather drastic effect on performance, particularly with celeries. Its not just this test, there have been a couple of posts where people who have dual booted with other distros and find gentoo slower until properly tuned (did the last poster with the custom application eventually get gentoo to run faster than debian?) I did some tests afterwards (not on the same machine unfortunately) and found that in general, gentoo-sources is slightly faster than open-mosix (no thread migration) and vanilla kernels (hey, I gotta download this stuff through a modem!). Might be hardware dependent but I think this will hold up in other configs. pre-empt etc on/off made little/no difference. It is also worth noting that these machines were all new installs and had no cruft, extra services running so these features would have little effect. So the idea that using the recommended (at the time) gentoo-sources kernel for performance was ok. This time around I chose gs-sources, mainly for the new hardware support, but also it seemed to perform better than gentoo-sources which had not been updated at the time. So unless you have some specific tests which are biased to some kernel feature, you are not going to see much advantage/disadvantage there. Attempts were made to use the gentoo kernel on the other machines (debian), but proved too much work for the time involved. But, whats the point of using the same kernel on each machine when gentoo recommend gentoo-sources, Mandrake recommends ... It would have been nice to check each distro with a vanilla kernel just to see what would happen, but there were only so many hours in that day. The test we did early last month (www.linmagau.org) showed that with a better match of CFLAGS to hardware, you can expect about a 10% gain (sometimes, if the CFLAGS and hardware and application are a good match) - but can lose it by making poor choices elsewhere. 10% is not to be sneezed at, but its hardly earth shattering either. As I have stated previously, these are empirical tests, not definitive scientific ones but should hold up in the real world when doing the kind of work that I and the others do in our day jobs. BillK On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 02:56, Stroller wrote: On Nov 2, 2003, at 10:13 pm, William Kenworthy wrote: There was actually a lot of misinformation and pure rubbish spread on ... There was some good reasons for that result And you address the one I had in mind by using the same kernel on all three machines in your revisited article. But to suggest, as the original article did, that these distributions are faster than Gentoo is NOT empirical when the distros tested have such a glaring difference between them. As you know, the Gentoo-sources (with pre-empt patches) kernel was tested in the original article against another with Redhat's patch-set. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /tmp not empty at boot time
Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Hi, At boot time I see a message that /tmp en /vat/tmp are being cleared, but I still find files from months ago in there. Is this normal?, I would say no, but how do i fix this? Patrick This is fine according to LSB/FHS. /var/tmp should *not* be cleared after reboot: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.15.html The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require temporary files or directories that are preserved between system reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more persistent than data in /tmp. Files and directories located in /var/tmp must not be deleted when the system is booted. Although data stored in /var/tmp is typically deleted in a site-specific manner, it is recommended that deletions occur at a less frequent interval than /tmp. /tmp *can* be cleared after reboot, but is not required: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-3.15.html Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are preserved between invocations of the program. Although data stored in /tmp may be deleted in a site-specific manner, it is recommended that files and directories located in /tmp be deleted whenever the system is booted. FHS added this recommendation on the basis of historical precedent and common practice, but did not make it a requirement because system administration is not within the scope of this standard. -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] downloading Yahoo! mail
On Saturday 01 November 2003 12:59, HvR wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 15:20, Steven Elling wrote:
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 23:09, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I want to be able to download my Yahoo! mail into Mozilla. I see that
in portage there are 2 programs for this: yosucker and fetchyahoo.
Which one of them is better, or does it really matter? Also, I want
to setup a POP3 server so that I can download the mail into Mozilla
once it is fetched into the mail spool. Does anyone have a setup like
this? Is there an easier way?
I use fetchyahoo through KMail. KMail is set up to run fetchyahoo.pl
as a pre-command for a Local Account located at
/var/mail/{USERNAME}-yahoo-inbox.
fetchyahoo.pl downloads e-mails to /var/mail/{USERNAME}-yahoo-inbox
and, once done, KMail picks them up from the mail spool file. I just
wouldn't set up KMail to do interval checking for this Local Account
because fetchyahoo.pl returns error codes when no mail is available for
download and KMail displays notices for the error codes then waits for
you to hit OK before it continues with the next operation.
then why not wrap a script around fetchyahoo.pl that always returns OK?
It takes around 5 minutes for my system to actually make a connection to
Yahoo using fetchyahoo.pl and I pull email from 2 different folders.
fetchyahoo.pl blocks Kmail from checking other accounts until it is
finished and with my Yahoo account being low traffic it is not worth the
time to create a wrapper script to run every 9 minutes to maybe download
e-mails from two folders that will take a minimum of 10 minutes. Phew!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Can't start Gnome
I *think* that's because you've got an option checked to reply in the same format as the message you're replying to. Certainly, earlier versions of Outlook Outlook Distress had that option. Stroller. On Nov 3, 2003, at 7:46 pm, Brent L Johnson wrote: Yes but this setting gets overridden.. as you can see Im sending plain text now. Its overridden if you're replying to someone who didnt use plain text. Outlook 2000: Tools - Options - Mail Format tab, select Plain text from the Send in this message format: dropdown. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] problem with qmail an vpopmail...
hello all, can some please send me the /service/qmail-smtpd/run file? it must be configured for use with vpopmail... i' sitting here since some hours now and don't know what i'm doing wrong. i want to use smtp after pop or smtp authentication and i have destroyed my run file... i have read all documentaion but arhhh, i don't find the error. i have set it up before but i'm missing something... :-( thanks hanez -- BASH Boy for life! Key fingerprint = DCD0 990F 6BD8 6E5F 439D 4257 D5ED FB77 F58D 4435 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=you%40hanez.orgop=index -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: damned usb mouse again
Hall Stevenson wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 13:57, Roberto Padovani wrote: mine is exactly the same, though i think that the problem is somewhat above X, since # cat /dev/input/mice doesn't show any understanig of my mouse movements. You're correct. If the kernel doesn't know the mouse exists, don't bother with X (yet). Do you see the mouse with cat /proc/bus/usb/devices? And if you see it there, does it work after you did that? My Mitsumi USB mouse using the hid module doesn't work until I look at /proc/bus/usb/devices, so I stuffed that in one of the hotplug scripts. Regards... Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backups?
Good point Bill. I do have ADSL and can d'load at roughly 165k/sec Distfiles, though becomes so large that it would soon overwhelm my 20 gig drive that I back up to. Perhaps it would be smart to copy some files from distfiles to ~/home where they would be backed up and I could later move them back to distfiles if needed. This would however require more scripting to keep only the latest version of specific packages. Frankly, I'm not up to that task yet but I am learning :o) Ernie On Sunday 02 November 2003 11:32 pm, Bill Kenworthy wrote: One thing I noticed about your excludes: I use a modem so distfiles is very important when doing a (re)build. As a backup script you should include all the files needed to get up and running. Unless you are one of the lucky few with nearly unlimited net access, and no traffic limits or have made other arrangements. BillK On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 12:58, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 02 November 2003 08:05 pm, Rick [Kitty5] wrote: What do people do / recommend for backing up? I do rsync backups as well but to a normally unmounted spun down drive on a second box. The script below runs at 12:01 AM daily. My script is still a bit crude but it evolves as I learn and get around to working on it # == #! /bin/bash # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync ### # Backup Script ### [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/backup EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude #MAILTO=/bin/mail root echoMounting boot partition... sudo mount /boot -o ro echo echoMounting backup disk... ssh -T [EMAIL PROTECTED] END sleep 5 mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup END sleep 4 echo echoPerforming backup... echo rsync --rsh=ssh --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \ $BACKUP_TO/rsync/ | mail -s backup daily output root echo echoBackup complete Unmounting boot and backup partitions... /bin/umount -l /boot ssh -T [EMAIL PROTECTED] END sleep 5 umount /mnt/backup echo echoSpinning down backup disk... /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk END # == /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude is a simple text file containing files and directories that I don't want to include in the backup. There are many additions I should make to this file, but I haven't spent much time refining it lately. The backup is currently just over 6 Gigs and it normally runs for about 10 to 15 minutes. The first run was several hours. The nightly run deletes any files I deleted that day and then writes any new or altered files not specificly excluded, # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude: - /tmp/ - /var/lib/init.d/ - /mnt/flash #in case I forget to umount removable storage - /mnt/smartcard #media, cd's etc. - /mnt/tmp - /mnt/cdrom/ - /mnt/floppy/ - /proc/ - /usr/portage/distfiles/ - /root/.ccache/ - /home/ernie/Shared_Music#mp3's that can be seen by p2p client - home/ernie/.kde3.1/share/apps/RecentDocuments/ - /home/ernie/tmp #Partially d'loaded mp3's - /home/ernie/mnt #Samba mounts - /var/tmp/portage -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ati Dual-Head XVideo Extension
Hi I don't know where to ask this (is there an ATI forum ?) but since i'm using gentoo I thought I'd ask here. I am using a Radeon 9500 pro and ati-drivers-3.2.8, I used fglrxconfig to create a XF86Config-4 using Dual-Head. The problem is that when I use the Dual head it seems that XVideo Extensions turns off! If i start X with 'X-screen screen0' (i.e no dual head, but the same XF86Config-4) XVideo turns on again. Is this a bug or a feature, or just my configuration? I've attached bits of my XF86Config-4, xdpyinfo, and xvinfo. Any assistance would be appreciated, -Thanks Excerpt of XF86Config-4 --- # === Video Overlay for the Xv extension === Option VideoOverlay on --- Excerpt of xdpyinfo --- number of extensions:30 ATIFGLEXTENSION ATIFGLRXDRI ATITVOUT ... XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo !!! == default screen number:0 number of screens:2 Excerpt of xvinfo -- X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present screen #1 no adaptors present -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
