Re: [gentoo-user] this is so much fun

2004-01-02 Thread Alan
Doesn't it seem like you find something the minute you ask the question
in a public forum?  I do that all the time...

Quick tip:  qpkg -l package will show you where the installed files
are.  I use that when I emerge something and have no clue what to run to
execute it :)

alan

On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:04:20PM -0800, Ben Munat wrote:
 Ack! Nevermind. Sorry, I should look a little more carefully before I post.
 
 sheepish grin
 
 b
 
 
 Ben Munat wrote:
 
 Ok... where does portage put apps that I emerge? Like mozilla firebird? 
 It's not on my path and doing a locate on firebird, all I find are the 
 /usr/portage, /var/db and /var/cache files.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA while booting

2004-01-02 Thread Arthur Britto
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 01:41, Mauro Arnoldi wrote:
 Is it possible to enable DMA before this check so that I can scan my 
 partitions faster?

You can force hdparm to run before checkroot:
   echo hdparm checkroot hostname modules checkfs localmount 
/etc/runlevels/boot/.critical

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Re: [gentoo-user] this is so much fun

2004-01-02 Thread Ben Munat
Wow, thanks... that's great. I've had that problem many times before... 
or not remembering the exact name of a program. That'll come in handy... 
even better than locate.

b



Alan wrote:
Doesn't it seem like you find something the minute you ask the question
in a public forum?  I do that all the time...
Quick tip:  qpkg -l package will show you where the installed files
are.  I use that when I emerge something and have no clue what to run to
execute it :)
alan

On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:04:20PM -0800, Ben Munat wrote:

Ack! Nevermind. Sorry, I should look a little more carefully before I post.

sheepish grin

b

Ben Munat wrote:


Ok... where does portage put apps that I emerge? Like mozilla firebird? 
It's not on my path and doing a locate on firebird, all I find are the 
/usr/portage, /var/db and /var/cache files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Resize and move ext3 and reiserfs partitions

2004-01-02 Thread Eldad Zack
On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 23:55, Jamie Jennings wrote:

 The problem is that I need to move the /boot (ext3) and swap partitions so
 that the free chunk and the /dev/hda5 (root) partitions are together, then
 I need to resize the root partition (reiserfs) to include the new space.
 
 How can I do this? Neither parted or Partition Magic will move/resize my
 ext3 or reiserfs partitions. Is there another tool I can use?

THE BIG DISCLAIMER: Backup your data (and if you're too lazy, backup the
data you can't reproduce.)

There are tools to resize the filesystem that comes with the
distribution - for reiserfs there's resize_reiserfs and for ext3 there's
resize2fs (unmount ext3 cleanly so it will contain no journal and
therefore be just like ext2)

First umount the filesystem, then expand the partition with
parted/fdisk, and afterwards use these tools.

I've never done this myself, so I'll rehash the first line - backup your
data first.



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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE doesn' t play login sound

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:11:49 +, Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Control Centre - Sound  Multimedia - System Notifications - KDE 
System Notifications - KDE is Starting Up - Check Play a sound and 
select /usr/kde/3.1/share/sounds/welcome.wav or whatever wav file you 
want.

Ah! Thanks! I haven't noticed that there is a dropdown list in that dialog as
well, because that was were I was looking anyway. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Daily job running

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:56:27 +, Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

how I think it was in Mandrake ;-( ) ... I tried it and found that jobs 
in /etc/cron.daily were running twice, started once by cron and 5 
minutes later by anacron.

I didn' t put it in /etc/cron.daily, only in anacron, so that works.

So I have unmerged anacron and apologise for giving bad advice here.

It was not THAT bad. :) After all it helped. It would have been more efficient
if I didn' t have to use anacron since cron can do that as well, but that's
not really a problem.

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[gentoo-user] test

2004-01-02 Thread Joshua Banks
test

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[gentoo-user] Problem with custom ebuild

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
I asked on how to emerge the older kernels and got as answer that I can do
emerge ./xxx.ebuild. This worked, but then somebody said that this is no good
way to do and I should use emerge =sys-kernel/... instead. Ok. I did that and
it worked fine. In the sys-kernel/vanilla-sources directory I only had ebuilds
up to 2.4.20 so I created my own one for 2.4.18.
When I did the first style emerge it worked fine but when I tried the second
version (the proper one) it only works for the available 2.4.22 ebuild and not
for my created one. In this case I get an errror telling me that there are no
masked or unmasked ebuilds for that so I guess there is somewhere something
like a configfile that tells emerge where to look for the ebuilds and what is
available.

btw: When I next time do a rsync will my ebuild be deleted then?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles

2004-01-02 Thread Jernej Zidar
I've done what you told me, but the printer is still not printing in Cups
(though if I pipe something to /dev/usb/lp0 it works; eg ls  -dev-usb-lp0).
At the bottom I attach the output of error_log. Cups now also complains
about the media tray being empty though it is not. In the system log I
noticed a timeout error regarding the usb port.

JZidar

error_log.dat:
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] SendFile() 5 file=6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] SendError() 5 code=401
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi started -
PID = 1729
I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi
(pid=1729)
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CloseClient() 8
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 GET /images/show-completed.gif
HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendFile() 8 file=9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CloseClient() 6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /printers HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
started - PID = 1730
I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
(pid=1730)
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=10
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 9 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=0
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] CloseClient() 9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] Closing client 5 after 300 seconds of
inactivity...
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] CloseClient() 5
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 8


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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles


  I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to debug
to find
  out more.

 You should do that for a start. The setting is found in
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf
 Reload cups, print again, and examine the logs again.

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[gentoo-user] DMA while booting

2004-01-02 Thread Mauro Arnoldi
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Hi to anyone!

While I boot my Laptop with Gentoo Linux I notice this warning while checking 
the filesystem 


* The dma of your hard drive is turned off  *
* This may really slow down the fsck process* 


My fstab:

/dev/hda2   /boot   reiserfsnoatime 1 1
/dev/hda3   /   reiserfsnoatime 1 2
/dev/hda7   /usrreiserfsnoatime 1 2
/dev/hda8   /mnt/vmware reiserfsnoatime 1 2


Is it possible to enable DMA before this check so that I can scan my 
partitions faster?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles

2004-01-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

The logs you have shown do not show that you have tried to print anything. 
Please confirm that this is the same file that you pasted from before, and 
also that you have changed the LogLevel.
You should expect to find a hell of a lot of output in the logs when you print 
something when loglevel=debug.

Daniel.

Jernej Zidar wrote:
I've done what you told me, but the printer is still not printing in Cups
(though if I pipe something to /dev/usb/lp0 it works; eg ls  -dev-usb-lp0).
At the bottom I attach the output of error_log. Cups now also complains
about the media tray being empty though it is not. In the system log I
noticed a timeout error regarding the usb port.
JZidar

error_log.dat:
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] SendFile() 5 file=6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] SendError() 5 code=401
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi started -
PID = 1729
I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi
(pid=1729)
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CloseClient() 8
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 GET /images/show-completed.gif
HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendFile() 8 file=9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CloseClient() 6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /printers HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
started - PID = 1730
I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
(pid=1730)
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=10
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 9 from localhost:631.
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=0
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=1
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] CloseClient() 9
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] Closing client 5 after 300 seconds of
inactivity...
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] CloseClient() 5
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 6
D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 8
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I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to debug
to find

out more.
You should do that for a start. The setting is found in
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf

Reload cups, print again, and examine the logs again.

Daniel



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Re: [gentoo-user] DMA while booting

2004-01-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

Sounds like you haven't correctly compiled in support for your IDE controller 
into the kernel.

You can use lspci (from the pciutils package) to find out which IDE 
controller you have, and then you should compile support for that into the 
kernel (in 2.6 menuconfig: Device Drivers ---  ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support 
--- ...). Also check that Use PCI DMA by default when available is selected.

Once you have the right support compiled in, the kernel should automatically 
set DMA during bootup.

Daniel.

Mauro Arnoldi wrote:
  While I boot my Laptop with Gentoo Linux I notice this warning while checking
the filesystem 


* The dma of your hard drive is turned off	*
* This may really slow down the fsck process	* 


Is it possible to enable DMA before this check so that I can scan my 
partitions faster?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with custom ebuild

2004-01-02 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 20:18, Gerhard W.Gruber wrote:
 btw: When I next time do a rsync will my ebuild be deleted then?

Yes, if you created it in /usr/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/

Look into the PORTAGE_OVERLAY variable in /etc/make.conf; it will point
the way for you to be able to create, say,
/usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/ and put your ebuild
there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] IP address

2004-01-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

Try catching the output of this:

ifconfig eth0 | grep inet addr | cut -d : -f 2 | cut -d   -f 1

Daniel.

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Hi,

I'm using DHCP for getting a IP address is there a file where the IP-address is 
stored ?
I need to write a script that needs to know the IPaddress.
I know /sbin/ifconfig
TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] IP address

2004-01-02 Thread Karl Huysmans




You could use

CURRENT_IP=`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d : -f 2 | cut -d ' ' -f 1` 

in your script if you want to return the current ip address for eth0



On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,


I'm using DHCP for getting a IP address is there a file where the IP-address is stored ?
I need to write a script that needs to know the IPaddress.
I know /sbin/ifconfig

TIA
Patrick





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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles

2004-01-02 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Happy new year everybody,

Am Donnerstag, 1. Januar 2004 16:55 schrieb Nejko Zidarjev:
 Hi! I hoped that I've solved the printing issue in Gentoo but I was wrong.
 Here it goes: using the Gentoo printing guide I installed Cups and my
 printer (HP Deskjet 656c), including hpijs. The printer is not printing. If
 I try to print the Cups' test page I get this error:
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:41:01 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
 (pid=1901)
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
 (pid=2045)
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Adding start banner page none to job 3.
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Adding end banner page none to job 3.
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Job 3 queued on 'HP' by 'root'.
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops
 (PID 2046) for job 3.
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started filter
 /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 2047) for job 3.
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
 (PID 2048) for job 3.
 E [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] PID 2047 stopped with status 1!
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to debug to
 find out more.
 The modules that required are loaded (usbcore, printer). I noticed that the
 device URI in Cups points to: /dev/usb/lp0, which does not exist in the
 /dev/usb map.
 What's not working? Can you advise me please?
 Thanks for the help,
 JZidar

I'm not sure, but I think I had this problem, when foomatic-rip did not exist 
on my computer (which is the process failing here PID2047). It belongs to 
net-print/foomatic-filters. On my system it looks like this:
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lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   21 2003-10-21 
12:52 /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip - /usr/bin/foomatic-rip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sb $ ls -la /usr/bin/foomatic-rip
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   190609 2003-10-21 
12:52 /usr/bin/foomatic-rip
Maybe (re-)emerging it helps.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] worm games

2004-01-02 Thread Michele Di Trani
On Thursday 01 January 2004 09:27, William Kenworthy wrote:

 Does anyone know of a more modern version, or a similar game?

nil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with custom ebuild

2004-01-02 Thread Tom Wesley
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 10:59, Gerhard W.Gruber wrote:
 On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:24:07 +1100, Andrew Cowie
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Look into the PORTAGE_OVERLAY variable in /etc/make.conf; it will point
 the way for you to be able to create, say,
 /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/ and put your ebuild
 there.
 
 Thanks. I created the directory structur in /usr/local/portage according to
 the one in the /usr/portage tree (only the stuff I needed) and copied the
 ebuild and digest files there, then I deleted it. After that I run emerge ...
 digest and this seems to work now.
 
 Can I copy the 2.4.22/23 also there? Currently I have them in the official
 gentoo tree so there would be no need for it, but at some point in the future
 it would vanish there as well. Shall I copy the files to local and delete them
 in the normal tree or shall I keep them there and let nature run its course?
 Would emerge be confused in that case because then I have two ebuilds with the
 same files.
 
 Or is it ok to delete them, but I guess with the next rsync they would be
 recreated there anyway.

As the next rsync will undo any changes you make to the official tree
everything should be affected in the overlay directory.  This will do
just that, overlay any files of the same names from the official tree. 
So if you copy the 2.4.23 ebuild to the overlay, modify it in some way
and then emerge $your_ebuild, portage will use the ebuild from the
overlay directory.


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Re: [gentoo-user] worm games

2004-01-02 Thread William Kenworthy
Thanks, this worked a treat - so well in fact I only just got the
machine back off the youngster to check the email :)

Used rpm -ivh --nodeps /home/rpm/nil-000516-19mdk.i586.rpm after
checking I already had the needed deps.

BillK


On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 00:20, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Thursday 01 Jan 2004 13:09, William Kenworthy wrote:
  Can emerge install a rpm (how???) or should I extract the tarball
  from it and build manually?  Searching seems to imply its a manual
  install, but you never know ...
 
  BillK
 
  On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 20:27, Peter Ruskin wrote:
  Does anyone know of a more modern version, or a similar game?

 KSnakeRace?
  
   rsync://ftp.sunet.se/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586/nil-000516-19mdk.i58
  6.rpm
  
 I would emerge rpm and then do `rpm -ivh --nodeps 
 nil-000516-19mdk.i586.rpm`, on a one-off basis.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Redeeman
NO :(( kdb doesent fix, and setfont is also only a console utility, its
in X my problems is.

hmmm... what shall i do? maybe i should set some kind of reward on this
thing...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help a poor man which lost his fonts :D

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 03:03, Tom Hendrikx wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 01:02, Redeeman wrote:
  and if it can help, i can tell that after i did this, under startup i
  get this message:
  
  cannot find setfont executable
  
 
 hi,
 
 seems like you already found the problem ;)
 
 $ which setfont
 /usr/bin/setfont
 $ qpkg -f /usr/bin/setfont
 sys-apps/kbd *
 
 you should try an emerge kbd
 
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[gentoo-user] Terminal

2004-01-02 Thread Steve B.
What is a good terminal that supports transparency?  I have tried both aterm 
and multi-aterm (the later of which does not work).  Aterm is ok, but looking 
for other options.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Tom Wesley
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 11:19, Redeeman wrote:
 NO :(( kdb doesent fix, and setfont is also only a console utility, its
 in X my problems is.
 
 hmmm... what shall i do? maybe i should set some kind of reward on this
 thing...
 
 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help a poor man which lost his fonts :D
 
 On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 03:03, Tom Hendrikx wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 01:02, Redeeman wrote:
   and if it can help, i can tell that after i did this, under startup i
   get this message:
   
   cannot find setfont executable
   
  
  hi,
  
  seems like you already found the problem ;)
  
  $ which setfont
  /usr/bin/setfont
  $ qpkg -f /usr/bin/setfont
  sys-apps/kbd *
  
  you should try an emerge kbd
  
  Tom
  

OK, from your original gcc emerge it seems you've upgraded quite a lot
to ~x86, I'm sure it's possible that something that depended on, so
first I would using revdep-rebuild and see if anything is broken.

After that I would try:
 #  fc-cache -fv

to rebuild the font information, then restart xfree and see if that
helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:15:37 + Steve B.
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| What is a good terminal that supports transparency?  I have tried both
| aterm and multi-aterm (the later of which does not work).  Aterm is
| ok, but looking for other options.

Eterm. The default settings are uglier than McBride in a tutu, but if
you play around a bit it can look pretty nice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal

2004-01-02 Thread Redeeman
aterm with my borderless patch!
if you are interrested, say so!

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 21:15, Steve B. wrote:
 What is a good terminal that supports transparency?  I have tried both aterm 
 and multi-aterm (the later of which does not work).  Aterm is ok, but looking 
 for other options.
 
 Thank you 
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[gentoo-user] KDE doesn' t restore window state

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
When I was running Suse my KDE always remebered the state of the shellwindows.
This was quite convinient because I usually had them minimized and only
restored them when I needed them. Now KDE remembers the shell windows I had
open, but it always displays them. Is there an additional option to do this? I
activated that KDE should remember my sessions but it seems that this is not
enough.

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Re: [gentoo-user] worm games

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 02 Jan 2004 11:07, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Thanks, this worked a treat - so well in fact I only just got the
 machine back off the youngster to check the email :)

 Used rpm -ivh --nodeps /home/rpm/nil-000516-19mdk.i586.rpm after
 checking I already had the needed deps.

You're welcome Bill

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wine CVS ebuild problem

2004-01-02 Thread brettholcomb
Check bugzilla as there are sone winex-cvs builds there that you can look at.

 
 From: Gerhard W. Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/01/02 Fri AM 06:40:02 EST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Wine CVS ebuild problem
 
 Since there is no wine-cvs ebuild I tried to create my own, but I'm rather
 newbie to this so, naturally, it failed. :)
 
 The best choice would have been to take a look at winex-cvs but this has been
 removed so the ebuild is only an empty shell. Now I took the ebuild from
 crystalspace-cvs as a template and changed servername and all the stuff to
 match wine. When I run ebuild to create the digest I always get the error
 message PF is null.
 What does that mean?
 I also copied the digest file from crystalspace but that is empty anyway.
 
 Does emerge have to have a version number in the ebuildname or is the choice
 of the name totally free? Since I wanted to run it against the wine cvs tree I
 didn't specify a version. Could this be the problem?
 
 The ebuild looks like this:
 -
 inherit cvs
 ECVS_SERVER=cvs.winehq.com:/home/wine
 ECVS_MODULE=CS
 ECVS_TOP_DIR=${DISTDIR}/cvs-src/${PN}
 S=${WORKDIR}/${ECVS_MODULE}
 
 DESCRIPTION=Windows WIN32 API emulation for running MS-Windows software
 natively in Linux
 SRC_URI=
 HOMEPAGE=http://www.winehq.com/;
 
 SLOT=0
 LICENSE=LGPL-2
 KEYWORDS=~x86 ~ppc
 
 #DEPEND==media-libs/libpng-1.2.1
 
 WINE_PREFIX=/opt/wine
 
 src_compile() {
 ./configure --prefix=${WINE_PREFIX} || die
 emake all || die
 }
 
 src_install() {
 dodir ${WINE_PREFIX}
 make INSTALL_DIR=${D}/${WINE_PREFIX} install || die
 #   dodir /usr/bin
 #   dosym ${WINE_PREFIX}/bin/cs-config /usr/bin/cs-config
 #   find ${D}/${WINE_PREFIX} -type f -exec chmod a+r '{}' \;
 #   find ${D}/${WINE_PREFIX} -type d -exec chmod a+rx '{}' \;
 #   chmod a+rx ${D}/${WINE_PREFIX}/{bin,lib}/*
 #   dodir /etc/env.d
 #   echo WINE=\${WINE_PREFIX}\  ${D}/etc/env.d/90crystalspace
 }
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] IP address

2004-01-02 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
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I'm using DHCP for getting a IP address is there a file where the IP-address is stored 
?
I need to write a script that needs to know the IPaddress.
I know /sbin/ifconfig
I am not using it, but as I remember it, on rh it was in:

/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases

should be very similar on gentoo too  too too :-)

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[gentoo-user] out of disk space, now kde broken

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Lord
Hi All,

Whilst re-emerging gcc, I ran out of disk space which caused future 
emerge's to fail.  I fixed this my moving to portage directories to a 
different disk partition and running emerge sync.

But, kdm seems to have changed behaviour.  First I didn't get the choice 
of kde.  I fixed this in the Login Manager.  Then, when I select kde I 
just get one xterm with no window manager running (although I can 
manually run startkde to get going).

How can I diagnose further so that startkde is run automatically ?  [ I 
tried to emerge kde, but that didn't don't anything since everything is 
up-to-date ]

Thanks,

Pete

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[gentoo-user] same portage version on x86 and ~x86

2004-01-02 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Yesterday, I found it odd that both my x86 and ~x86 box wanted to upgrade portage to 
2.0.49-r19. Today, they both want to upgrade to 2.0.49-r20. What's up with that? Usually 
portage on my x86 box is a few revisions behind my ~x86 box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Redeeman
it doesent work, :

what to do?


On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 12:35, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 11:19, Redeeman wrote:
  NO :(( kdb doesent fix, and setfont is also only a console utility, its
  in X my problems is.
  
  hmmm... what shall i do? maybe i should set some kind of reward on this
  thing...
  
  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help a poor man which lost his fonts :D
  
  On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 03:03, Tom Hendrikx wrote:
   On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 01:02, Redeeman wrote:
and if it can help, i can tell that after i did this, under startup i
get this message:

cannot find setfont executable

   
   hi,
   
   seems like you already found the problem ;)
   
   $ which setfont
   /usr/bin/setfont
   $ qpkg -f /usr/bin/setfont
   sys-apps/kbd *
   
   you should try an emerge kbd
   
   Tom
   
 
 OK, from your original gcc emerge it seems you've upgraded quite a lot
 to ~x86, I'm sure it's possible that something that depended on, so
 first I would using revdep-rebuild and see if anything is broken.
 
 After that I would try:
  #  fc-cache -fv
 
 to rebuild the font information, then restart xfree and see if that
 helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning

2004-01-02 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
is there some utility, for checking distfile dir
against system to find unneeded source files ?
I can write some script myself, but do not like
to re-discover america :-)
Start here. There are a lot of good utilities.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=67849

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[gentoo-user] Still subscribed

2004-01-02 Thread W. Blaine Dowler

Hi all,

I sent out e-mails last week about not being unsubscribed.  The automated 
unsubscription addresses just don't respond to me.  I sent messages to the 
list owner on Christmas Day, and I'm still subscribed.  (I decided to wait 
until the holidays were over before hounding them again.)  

Does anyone know of another way to get me off the list?

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Re: [gentoo-user] same portage version on x86 and ~x86

2004-01-02 Thread Stefan Vunckx
On Friday 02 January 2004 14:47, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Yesterday, I found it odd that both my x86 and ~x86 box wanted to upgrade
 portage to 2.0.49-r19. Today, they both want to upgrade to 2.0.49-r20.
 What's up with that? Usually portage on my x86 box is a few revisions
 behind my ~x86 box.

Because portage 2.0.49-r19 is stable on x86 and 2.0.50_pre9 is hardmasked. 
Those are the only 2 versions in portage currently.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles

2004-01-02 Thread Jernej Zidar
Hello,
the logs were the right ones, but after some man reading I found out
that there are two debug options, namely debug and debug2, the latter one
proved to be the right choice, because it showed that Cups is missing a
shared library that comes with Gimp print drivers. I emerged that and Voila!
the printer is printing; tested with elinks, Opera and Kate.

Thanks Daniel and Michael!

JZidar

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles


 Hi,

 The logs you have shown do not show that you have tried to print anything.
 Please confirm that this is the same file that you pasted from before, and
 also that you have changed the LogLevel.
 You should expect to find a hell of a lot of output in the logs when you
print
 something when loglevel=debug.

 Daniel.

 Jernej Zidar wrote:
  I've done what you told me, but the printer is still not printing in
Cups
  (though if I pipe something to /dev/usb/lp0 it works; eg ls
 -dev-usb-lp0).
  At the bottom I attach the output of error_log. Cups now also complains
  about the media tray being empty though it is not. In the system log I
  noticed a timeout error regarding the usb port.
 
  JZidar
 
  error_log.dat:
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] AcceptClient() 5 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET / HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:11:58 +0100] SendFile() 5 file=6
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] ReadClient() 5 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:00 +0100] SendError() 5 code=401
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /jobs HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi
started -
  PID = 1729
  I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] Started /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi

  (pid=1729)
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=9
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 POST / HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] CloseClient() 8
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] ReadClient() 8 GET
/images/show-completed.gif
  HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:05 +0100] SendFile() 8 file=9
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CloseClient() 6
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 6 GET /printers HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
  started - PID = 1730
  I [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] Started
/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi
  (pid=1730)
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] SendCommand() 6 file=10
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] AcceptClient() 9 from localhost:631.
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=0
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:07 +0100] ReadClient() 9 POST / HTTP/1.1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] ProcessIPPRequest: 9 status_code=1
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:08 +0100] CloseClient() 9
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] Closing client 5 after 300 seconds of
  inactivity...
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:31 +0100] CloseClient() 5
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 6
  D [02/Jan/2004:10:12:52 +0100] CloseClient() 8
 
 
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  From: Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Printing troubles
 
 
 
 I [01/Jan/2004:16:47:05 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to
debug
 
  to find
 
 out more.
 
 You should do that for a start. The setting is found in
 
  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
 
 Reload cups, print again, and examine the logs again.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Still subscribed

2004-01-02 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
W. Blaine Dowler wrote:
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 I sent out e-mails last week about not being unsubscribed.  The
 automated unsubscription addresses just don't respond to me.  I sent
 messages to the list owner on Christmas Day, and I'm still
 subscribed.  (I decided to wait until the holidays were over before
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Re: [gentoo-user] same portage version on x86 and ~x86

2004-01-02 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Stefan Vunckx wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2004 14:47, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Yesterday, I found it odd that both my x86 and ~x86 box wanted to
 upgrade portage to 2.0.49-r19. Today, they both want to upgrade to
 2.0.49-r20. What's up with that? Usually portage on my x86 box is a
 few revisions behind my ~x86 box.

 Because portage 2.0.49-r19 is stable on x86 and 2.0.50_pre9 is
 hardmasked. Those are the only 2 versions in portage currently.

 Bonx

Who determined it to be stable?  Last time I used ~x86 portage had a nasty
clean but in it that threw out all sorts of errors messages (although
apparently harmless).

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon Mobility 7500

2004-01-02 Thread Greg Bolshaw
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 11:53, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
wrote:
 I have a 7500 Mobility in a FS-7110E laptop. Using latest gentoo sources
 (not 2.6.0). Using xfree-drm:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pmatos $ glxgears
 6239 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1247.800 FPS
[...]

 Do you want my config files?

Yes please, I'm sure that must be where the difference lies.

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[gentoo-user] Multiple versions of gcc

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
Gentoo uses the curent version of gcc with 3.2.3. Can I have 2.95 also
installed on the same system and how can I do this? How can I switch between
them?

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[gentoo-user] GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Mac Intyre, Steven
Hi all,

Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to 
Mandrake.

I have tried to install as per directions ... but got lost.

Oh ... also Im new :)

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple versions of gcc

2004-01-02 Thread David Mallwitz
On Friday 02 January 2004 10:28 am, Gerhard W.Gruber wrote:
 Gentoo uses the curent version of gcc with 3.2.3. Can I have 2.95
 also installed on the same system and how can I do this? 

Yes, emerge -p /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/gcc-2.95.3-r8.ebuild

How can I switch between them?

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[gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Tom Hosiawa
I'm looking to use the the latest patch for bootsplash that works
against the 2.4.22 kernel. I found a bug created for it on nov 11, 2003
but it's still not in the portage tree, so I'm wondering, does it really
take this long to commit a patch?

Also, I'm using kernel 2.4.23 because of that security bug in 2.4.22 and
the patch for 2.4.22 works against 2.4.23 with the exception of a minor
problem in the config file. I would like to submit a patch for
bootsplash to work with 2.4.23 but if 2.4.22 hasn't been applied yet, is
it going to take another couple months for it to get commited?

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[gentoo-user] X cpu usage

2004-01-02 Thread D.Wilkening
Happy new year, listmembers!

I have a question about X cpu-usage: Is it normal to have about 70% usage while
watching tv or video on a 1 GHz PIII?

I use:
Video-card: voodoo3 2000 PCI, Gnome, Driver: tdfx, Haupauge Wintv, Xine,
Mplayer



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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms very fast

2004-01-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Friday 02 January 2004 00:20, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:

 If it sucks with any os, it must be a big shit and writting
 drivers for it is wasted time.


I am spending some time on the ocworkbench forum. There are a lot of boards 
with the cm9739 out there nowadays. And most of them suck. 
That is not because of the chip (on some rare boards the sound is ok to good), 
but of cheap resistors and capacitors and not very smart board-layouts.
Today the manufactures are spending a lot of money to add some more or less 
useless OC-ing features, because OC-ing is totally IN (and nobody tells the 
OCers, that OCing is the best way to corrupt data on the unnoticable way) and 
saving the money by buying crap for the sound interface.

Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Friday 02 January 2004 00:47, Redeeman wrote:

 freetype
 ttmkfdir

I think, this ones are your culprits.

Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space, now kde broken

2004-01-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Friday 02 January 2004 14:35, Peter Lord wrote:

 But, kdm seems to have changed behaviour.  First I didn't get the choice
 of kde.  I fixed this in the Login Manager.  Then, when I select kde I
 just get one xterm with no window manager running (although I can
 manually run startkde to get going).

At first: remove all .Dcop* files, .ICEAUTH, .Xauthority from your home 
directory, after that remove .ICE-unix, X11-unix, X0-lock, 
ksocket-username, mcop-username, kde-username from /tmp. 
Try it again, if KDE is still not working,  remove your .kde* dirs, or move 
them into a backup. Than try again.
This will kill all your settings, but after kde is running again, you can copy 
the files in the .kde* dirs back and look which was the troublemaker.

Glück Auf
Volker

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[gentoo-user] Can't watch DVD Movies!!

2004-01-02 Thread Colin Falkinburg
I just put a CDRW/DVD combo in my gentoo box and when I run gmplayer, it 
says the the format is not recognized. It will only play asf, mpeg ... What 
am I missing? Is there a particular app that needs to be merged?

Colin Falkinburg
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't watch DVD Movies!!

2004-01-02 Thread Mike Williams
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 I just put a CDRW/DVD combo in my gentoo box and when I run gmplayer, it
 says the the format is not recognized. It will only play asf, mpeg ... What
 am I missing? Is there a particular app that needs to be merged?

My guess, dvd support in mplayer :)

Either set the dvd USE flag in /etc/make.conf, or for a one off
USE=dvd emerge mplayer

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

GLIS is probably the closest that you will get, currently.

http://glis.sourceforge.net/

You might also try asking for help when you get lost :)

Daniel.

Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
Hi all,

Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to 
Mandrake.

I have tried to install as per directions ... but got lost.

Oh ... also Im new :)

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Steven

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Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space, now kde broken

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Lord
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote, On 01/02/2004 04:25 PM:

Hi,

On Friday 02 January 2004 14:35, Peter Lord wrote:

 

But, kdm seems to have changed behaviour.  First I didn't get the choice
of kde.  I fixed this in the Login Manager.  Then, when I select kde I
just get one xterm with no window manager running (although I can
manually run startkde to get going).
   

At first: remove all .Dcop* files, .ICEAUTH, .Xauthority from your home 
directory, after that remove .ICE-unix, X11-unix, X0-lock, 
ksocket-username, mcop-username, kde-username from /tmp. 
Try it again, if KDE is still not working,  remove your .kde* dirs, or move 
them into a backup. Than try again.
This will kill all your settings, but after kde is running again, you can copy 
the files in the .kde* dirs back and look which was the troublemaker.
 

Thanks. 

I think kdmrc was broken.  I re-emerged kdebase which fixed it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't watch DVD Movies!!

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:30:00 -0500 Colin Falkinburg
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| I just put a CDRW/DVD combo in my gentoo box and when I run gmplayer,
| it says the the format is not recognized. It will only play asf, mpeg
| ... What am I missing? Is there a particular app that needs to be
| merged?

Do you have USE=dvd? mplayer's dvd support is optional.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 02 January 2004 16:37, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
 Mandrake.

no, and I hope, that there will be never one.
genflags/genkernel and the rest of this crap is newbie-friendly and 
non-working enough. A graphic interface would inhibit me, you and everybody 
to install gentoo the way, I, you and everybody wants it.
Today you should, but have not to follow the steps in the installation 
documentation, but if you have a good reason not to do so, you can throw the 
documentation in the bin and do it your way. Great.
With a graphical interface, this would not be possible.
If I need a special version of a packet, I can edit everything I need, and 
throw the funniest options at portage. How would I do that with a graphical 
interface?



 I have tried to install as per directions ... but got lost.

 Oh ... also Im new :)

assholemode 
If you are not able to follow the simple steps of the installation 
documentation, than you should not use gentoo at all. Stay at Mandrake and 
learn some more. Mandrake is a great distri for starters and for advanced 
users. If you are not a victim of the rpm-hell, you should definetly stay a 
little longer there. 
On www.gentoo.org is a remark about the intended users of gentoo.
Newbies are not mentioned.
 Not because someone does not like newbies, but gentoo is not a newbie 
friendly distribution. There are a lot of more choices how you want to 
destruct your system than in MandrakeSuSE together.

If you want to realy learn about linux, have a look at slackware. If you can 
master a slackware, adjusted to your needs and wishes, gentoo is laughable 
simple. But if you are a fresh Mandrake-Linux-user gentoo has so much hidden 
traps, that you should definetly stay a little longer at your 'home 
distribution'.

Here are enough newbies on this list, people that have started with 
mandrake/lycoris/lindows shortly before and think that gentoo would be a 
great next step.
No, it is not. 
For lycoris/lindowsco users, it would be a logical step to switch to a 'real' 
distribution first, before they waste a lot of time with gentoo.
People that started with MandrakeSuSEco some weeks/month ago should stay 
there for some more time and test a distribution which does not hold their 
hands after that first, like debian or slackware. 
This distris are cool to really learn about linux. After that, gentoo with its 
special cases is not a problem anymore. In fact, for a trained slackware or 
debian user, gentoo is almost braindead simple.

assholemodeoff

If you still want to install gentoo, try to understand, where and why you get 
lost. This will help you a lot to master that problem. If you can not figure 
out the 'why', don't hesitate and ask.
All my ranting above could be destilled to this: gentoo is a nice distrie, 
but not for newbies, because of some nasty traps and a lot of options-think 
about it, before you waste your time.

But if you still want to install gentoo, welcome. Nobody will harm you for any 
reasonable questions (and even the stupid ones are almost everytime excused).

Glück Auf
Volker

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Re: [gentoo-user] Still subscribed

2004-01-02 Thread Mickey Mullin
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
W. Blaine Dowler wrote:
I sent out e-mails last week about not being unsubscribed.  The
automated unsubscription addresses just don't respond to me.  I sent
messages to the list owner on Christmas Day, and I'm still
subscribed.  (I decided to wait until the holidays were over before
hounding them again.)
Oh yes, I forgot to mention in my last email that you will be sent an email
to which you will need to reply to confirm your list cancellation.
If, like me, you have several email addresses dumping into the same 
mailbox and don't know which the intended address was, you can see it in 
the Return-Path header:

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See, my address is listed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which happens to be 
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[gentoo-user] drawbacks of playing the market

2004-01-02 Thread Drake Wyrm
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 05:12:39PM +0100, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hemmann, Volker 
Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2004 00:20, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
  If it sucks with any os, it must be a big shit and writting
  drivers for it is wasted time.
 I am spending some time on the ocworkbench forum. There are a lot of boards 
 with the cm9739 out there nowadays. And most of them suck. 
 That is not because of the chip (on some rare boards the sound is ok to good), 
 but of cheap resistors and capacitors and not very smart board-layouts.
 Today the manufactures are spending a lot of money to add some more or less 
 useless OC-ing features, because OC-ing is totally IN (and nobody tells the 
 OCers, that OCing is the best way to corrupt data on the unnoticable way) and 
 saving the money by buying crap for the sound interface.
This reminds me of the motherboard market, circa 1999-2001. Several motherboard 
manufacturers managed to give VIA chipsets a bit of a bad name. Rather than using the 
entire chipset as intended or known-compatible combinations, it became de rigeur to 
use bits and pieces of different chipsets to achieve an overclocking advantage. 
Unfortunately, the focus was on performance and tweakability, rather than stability 
and functionality. In many cases, subtile incompatibilities caused serious lossage 
when combined with the stress of overclocking and performance-tuning. Blame hit the 
fan, and was randomly distributed. All of these practices are still in common use, but 
I think/hope that QA has a bit more to say on the subject.

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[gentoo-user] nfs install

2004-01-02 Thread Christian Schfer
hi gentoo-user,

I have a box with scsi-hardware-raid but little performance.
I'd like to install gentoo on it using the power of my desktop pc and
therefor seek for a possibility to mount those disks over network.
is this possible? and how?

any hints? host system would be the gentoo livecd or knoppix.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wine CVS ebuild problem

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 7:41:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check bugzilla as there are sone winex-cvs builds there that you can look at.

That didn' t help either. At least not with regards to my problem. That PF is
null error is something different it seems because from what I have seen of
the winex-cvs ebuild there is not that much of a difference.

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[gentoo-user] Re: GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Eamon Caddigan
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2004 16:37, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
 Mandrake.
 
 no, and I hope, that there will be never one.
 genflags/genkernel and the rest of this crap is newbie-friendly and 
 non-working enough. A graphic interface would inhibit me, you and everybody 
 to install gentoo the way, I, you and everybody wants it.

I don't buy into the rhetoric about GUIs inhibiting power users. First
of all, the command line *is* a graphical user interface, albeit a
one-dimensional one. While it may be true that most other GUIs currently
*do* place unnecessary limitations on the user, it doesn't follow that
they must.

Right now just about every new Gentoo user installs using the command
line on one VC, with the complete install documentation on another VC,
computer, or pile of dead trees on their desk. Heaven help the n00bs if
they're trying to cross reference this with one of the alternate install
docs.

A good GUI could *integrate* Gentoo's (excellent) documentation with the
complete install process. There are plenty of sections of the
installation that could *easily* be automated, and there's nothing about
a GUI that would force us to try automating those that can't.

And if you don't like this theoretical GUI, you should be free to ignore
it. Power users trying something new and different won't have to bother
with it, and wouldn't want to anyway. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Redeeman
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 17:16, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Friday 02 January 2004 00:47, Redeeman wrote:
 
  freetype
  ttmkfdir
 
 I think, this ones are your culprits.
 
what can i do to restore it?

 Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 02 January 2004 19:52, Redeeman wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 17:16, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Friday 02 January 2004 00:47, Redeeman wrote:
   freetype
   ttmkfdir
 
  I think, this ones are your culprits.

 what can i do to restore it?

you could look into /var/log/emerge.log and search for freetype/ttmkfdir. IMHO 
you should find there which versions got unmerged. Emerging them should 
restore your fonts.

Glück Auf
Volker

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Collins
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 18:51:20 + (UTC)
Eamon Caddigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 02 January 2004 16:37, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
  Mandrake.
  
  no, and I hope, that there will be never one.

A bit ridiculous

 
 I don't buy into the rhetoric about GUIs inhibiting power users. 

[ rest snipped ]

I agree.  A really spiffy GUI installer would be a great boon for a lot
of not-so-power users, and super-duper-power users could just ignore it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious acts by emerge -e gcc [really weird]

2004-01-02 Thread Redeeman
doesent work :(

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 20:13, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2004 19:52, Redeeman wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 17:16, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   Hi,
  
   On Friday 02 January 2004 00:47, Redeeman wrote:
freetype
ttmkfdir
  
   I think, this ones are your culprits.
 
  what can i do to restore it?
 
 you could look into /var/log/emerge.log and search for freetype/ttmkfdir. IMHO 
 you should find there which versions got unmerged. Emerging them should 
 restore your fonts.
 
 Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Ben Munat
I absolutely agree. I never would have gotten Gentoo installed without 
my windows box sitting right next to it with multiple browser tabs open 
to the various gentoo docs. A gui that incorporated the docs and guided 
the user through the decisions to be made would be very helpful. It 
could even keep a log so have a reference of what steps you took. And I 
can't imagine that the gentoo honchos would ever force everyone to use a 
GUI... they can't unless they're also going to abandon the tarball 
stages and net install.

I must also say that I actually wouldn't rate the docs so highly. 
There's a lot of them, but they're kind of a mess: scattered in 
different pages/hierarchies, often not adequately cross-referenced, and 
never, I mean *never*, helpful in anything less than a sunny-day 
scenario. Don't get me wrong; I highly appreciate the work that has gone 
into the docs and making gentoo what it is in general.

Basically, I think that there are probably lots of people who try 
installing gentoo and give up (I know I came very close several times), 
and that's a shame. A *good* interface that guides the user through the 
decisions to be made and explains why they are making them (i.e. 
incorporating the docs) would probably get more people through the 
process with less anxiety, while still learning (nearly) as much.

That's my take on it anyway.

b

Eamon Caddigan wrote:
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 02 January 2004 16:37, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:

Hi all,

Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
Mandrake.
no, and I hope, that there will be never one.
genflags/genkernel and the rest of this crap is newbie-friendly and 
non-working enough. A graphic interface would inhibit me, you and everybody 
to install gentoo the way, I, you and everybody wants it.


I don't buy into the rhetoric about GUIs inhibiting power users. First
of all, the command line *is* a graphical user interface, albeit a
one-dimensional one. While it may be true that most other GUIs currently
*do* place unnecessary limitations on the user, it doesn't follow that
they must.
Right now just about every new Gentoo user installs using the command
line on one VC, with the complete install documentation on another VC,
computer, or pile of dead trees on their desk. Heaven help the n00bs if
they're trying to cross reference this with one of the alternate install
docs.
A good GUI could *integrate* Gentoo's (excellent) documentation with the
complete install process. There are plenty of sections of the
installation that could *easily* be automated, and there's nothing about
a GUI that would force us to try automating those that can't.
And if you don't like this theoretical GUI, you should be free to ignore
it. Power users trying something new and different won't have to bother
with it, and wouldn't want to anyway. 

-Eamon

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Wine CVS ebuild problem

2004-01-02 Thread brettholcomb
Sorry, I thought you wanted an ebuild for winex-cvs.  I did one a few weeks ago 
because I was in the same place and I submitted it to bugzilla.  It that's what you 
need feel free to use it.  I've seen redone it but haven't posted it.

 
 From: Gerhard W. Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/01/02 Fri PM 01:42:37 EST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wine CVS ebuild problem
 
 On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 7:41:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Check bugzilla as there are sone winex-cvs builds there that you can look at.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install / Portage-browser

2004-01-02 Thread Mickey Mullin
Drake Wyrm wrote:
Even power-users could get some use out of a GUI. It would be a great way to browse through all the metadata stored in the Portage tree and Portage-related databases.
Take a look at kportage.

http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-portage;name=kportage

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Mickey Mullin
Ben Munat wrote:
I must also say that I actually wouldn't rate the docs so highly. 
I think the docs are pretty okay.  One pretty big complaint, though, is 
a lack of a Go button for jumping around the install docs (via the 
drop-down select list) - a large necessity when reading the install docs 
in links (which, without a GUI, is what most of us must do! ;).

Oh, that would suggest a bug report, wouldn't it?  Silly Mickey.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install / Portage-browser

2004-01-02 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 02 January 2004 02:45 pm, Mickey Mullin wrote:
 Drake Wyrm wrote:
  Even power-users could get some use out of a GUI. It would be a great way
  to browse through all the metadata stored in the Portage tree and
  Portage-related databases.

 Take a look at kportage.

 http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-portage;name=kportage

 

I loved kportage but it's unmaintained and quite broken now


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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Lincoln A. Baxter
It could be FOREVER!

I am coming to the conclusion that the gentoo folks are not really very
interested in user contributions.  I think you have to be part of the
club.  I have had distinctly mixed experiences:

1.) Last May I contributed this: 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21580

It has yet to show up in portage. And not official comments are in the
bug.  Now I know there are MANY who think qconfirm is a bad idea, I
don't even use myself any more, especially since spam assassin has
gotten so much better.  Even if one disagrees with using this, is this a
reason to make it hard for others, when some user has taken the time to
build a perfectly good ebuild, that makes it easier for the next guy?. 
That, it seems to me is DICTATING POLICY!. At the very least they should
put a comment into the bug that says that AREN't going to accept it and
WHY!

2.) About 1.5 months ago they broke the qmail pop3 server. (Atleast with
its interaction with Evolution) BAD.  I submitted a bug, which they DID
pay attention too.  I worked with the team who asked me to generate some
evolution debug output.  Which enabled ME to find what they broke, I
submitted the fix, and it was fairly quickly incorporated into the
package.  See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34646 for the full
history.

3.)  I have developed an ebuild for the perl interface to the Xerces-c
XML parser. Which is a bit of a pain to build. The Gentoo guides for
submitting ebuilds says that the perl herders need to approve such
ebiulds.  Well, they do not even tell you how to send mail to the perl
herders. (No link, no nothing).   So I have a perfectly good ebuild for
perl's XML-Xerces module in my portage overlay dir, that I have not
submitted, because of my experience with bug 21580, and my inability to
find the perl herders.

I am waiting to see if the Zynot folks (http://www.zynot.org/) produce
anything usable, and whether they will be a little more accepting of
user contributions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Tom Hosiawa
I still think they would be useful for power users, some of the stuff in
the install is just repetitive after doing numerous installs (eg.
extracting stage's, mounting proc, etc).

It was fun doing it for the first time and learning a little bit what it
takes to put an entire linux system together, but now I just want to get
on with the install.

I think for a GUI installer, something like being able to switch between
the GUI and the command line would be nice. From doing a couple RedHat
installs, when it comes to making the partitions, you're given the
choice of using the gui or jumping to fdisk. So, you get as much power
as you want.

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread brettholcomb
It's not a matter of interest - it's how many people are working on Gentoo.  There's a 
lot more of us users who submit requests, changes, ebuilds, etc. that have to be 
checked, processed, modified, whatever before they can be released on us.  And all 
this in addition to work done to move Gentoo forward.  It sounds like you might have 
the qualifications to be a developer or at least help in some way - have you contacted 
anyone at Gentoo about seeing what you can do?


 
 From: Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/01/02 Fri PM 03:11:40 EST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to
   portage
 
 It could be FOREVER!
 
 I am coming to the conclusion that the gentoo folks are not really very
 interested in user contributions.  I think you have to be part of the
 club.  I have had distinctly mixed experiences:
 
 1.) Last May I contributed this: 



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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:11:40 -0500 Lincoln A. Baxter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I am coming to the conclusion that the gentoo folks are not really
| very interested in user contributions.  I think you have to be part of
| the club.  I have had distinctly mixed experiences:

Not really. Contributed ebuilds will generally be accepted pretty
quickly so long as they meet the following criteria:
* They follow Policy
* The package is maintained upstream
* A developer is willing to maintain it
 
| 1.) Last May I contributed this: 
| http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21580
| 
| It has yet to show up in portage. And not official comments are in the
| bug.  Now I know there are MANY who think qconfirm is a bad idea, I
| don't even use myself any more, especially since spam assassin has
| gotten so much better.  Even if one disagrees with using this, is this
| a reason to make it hard for others, when some user has taken the time
| to build a perfectly good ebuild, that makes it easier for the next
| guy?. That, it seems to me is DICTATING POLICY!. At the very least
| they should put a comment into the bug that says that AREN't going to
| accept it and WHY!

That hasn't been rejected. It's just that no developer is willing to
accept responsibility for it.

| 3.)  I have developed an ebuild for the perl interface to the Xerces-c
| XML parser. Which is a bit of a pain to build. The Gentoo guides for
| submitting ebuilds says that the perl herders need to approve such
| ebiulds.  Well, they do not even tell you how to send mail to the perl
| herders. (No link, no nothing).   So I have a perfectly good ebuild
| for perl's XML-Xerces module in my portage overlay dir, that I have
| not submitted, because of my experience with bug 21580, and my
| inability to find the perl herders.

This should probably be handled by g-cpan.pl, but if not, a google
search for Gentoo perl herd will tell you everything you need.

| I am waiting to see if the Zynot folks (http://www.zynot.org/) produce
| anything usable, and whether they will be a little more accepting of
| user contributions.

I hope you enjoy long waits :)

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[gentoo-user] masked packages

2004-01-02 Thread Ben Munat
How do I find out why a package is masked? I read about package.mask, 
but the package I'm trying to get (eclipse-sdk) isn't in there. Perhaps 
something eclipse depends on (ant??) being masked results in eclipse 
being masked?

thnks

b

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Re: [gentoo-user] X cpu usage

2004-01-02 Thread SN

- Original Message - 
From: D.Wilkening [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] X cpu usage


 Happy new year, listmembers!

 I have a question about X cpu-usage: Is it normal to have about 70% usage
while
 watching tv or video on a 1 GHz PIII?

No that is not normal, I run mplayer on a 400Mhz with a 8mb ati graphiccard,
cpu usage there is only 40% while watching a divx in fullscreen.



 I use:
 Video-card: voodoo3 2000 PCI, Gnome, Driver: tdfx, Haupauge Wintv, Xine,
 Mplayer


 
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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install

2004-01-02 Thread Robert Cole
On Fri January 02 2004 7:37 am, Mac Intyre, Steven wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there possible a GUI install interface for Gentoo - similar to
 Mandrake.

 I have tried to install as per directions ... but got lost.

I have to agree with Volker on this one for the most part. Gentoo is very 
advanced.

But I wanted to add I would recommend printing out the install docs and having 
them in front of you. Yes you can use another system to have it up but it's 
extremely easy to miss something.

If you followed the directions EXACTLY you would have a working gentoo system. 
Since you don't I'd say you missed something.

One thing I've noticed now and again is I'll miss something during a new 
install because I forgot and glanced right over it because it was at the top 
of one of the printed pages or on the next page.

An example is the emerge sync command. It's at the top of the next page from 
where it talked about it and just above the bold heading Setting Gentoo 
Optimizations (make.conf) so It's easy for me to miss sometimes. You printer 
may print it in a different spot but this is just an example.

Another thing to watch for is kernel options that are required!!

Start from stage2 or 3 until you get it down and have a working system. It'll 
save time. It takes my 2.4 ghz 1 gig RAM and SATA drive system about 24 hours 
to install gentoo from stage 1. Thats beginning to KDE desktop with all the 
apps installed. 

I've installed gentoo dozens of times but I still get the docs down and next 
to me to remind me here and there. Mistakes in the gentoo installation 
process can be costly in time. Not to mention I have notes here and there and 
highlighting, etc...

Robert

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Re: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates

2004-01-02 Thread SN
Well guys if you have a good solution, then bring it up to the developer,
but writing a script for every shit and putting it into portage is not what
I want, gentoo is still lean but mean, if you have problems with manually
checking those kind of files after emerge, I think you are not using the
right distro. I updated baselayout once, so I checked those files, I think
it is no big deal, it even forces me to check if there were any changes or
improvements.


As soon as gentoo starts to create scripts for any crap I switch again to
another distro, the advantage of not having tools for anything is, that
those tools can't break.
Look at Suse RedHat Mandrake, 30% of their bugs come from the tools they
wrote.




- Original Message - 
From: Norbert Kamenicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates


 SN wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Arbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: gentoo-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:38 PM
  Subject: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm just wondering if anyone here knows if anything is being done with
 etc-update or the baselayout package to stop it pointlessly trying up
 update a load of configuration files that I'm never going to let it
 touch every time it is updated?
 
 It seems like baselayout's changed quite regularly recently (this is in
 the x86 branch) and every time it does I get asked to update:
 1) /etc/DIR_COLORS
 2) /etc/devfsd.conf
 3) /etc/fstab
 4) /etc/group
 5) /etc/passwd
 6) /etc/rc.conf
 7) /etc/shadow
 8) /etc/conf.d/net
 9) /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
 
 Aside from rc.conf and maybe devfsd.conf I can't think of a single one
 of those that should ever be replaced or merged with a vanilla copy. In
 fact with most of them accidentally replacing the file with a vanilla
 one would be somewhere between an annoyance and a major headache.
 
 
  What if baselayout introduces a new group or user
  Think about it.

 In that case it should be done by script, which at first checks
 the presence of the new user and then adds it to the copy of
 existing system passwd file (if necessary).

 I am sorry, but I thing, that adding a new user by replaceing
 passwd file with new uniform passwd file (from baselayout),
 which do not fit to any configured system (except of just
 installed one) is a the most stupid way how it can be done.
 And I am sure that it's not only my opinion.

 Happy New Year to everybody!

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[gentoo-user] Vanilla install problems

2004-01-02 Thread Ullrich Fischer
I'm trying to install Gentoo (vanilla-sources) onto an old Toshiba Equium 
7350S.  It has a 10 GB IDE drive which I've partitioned with Partition 
Magic Pro to leave my Windows 2k partition at about 2 GB.  I initially 
partitioned it to about 4 GB, but found that after I finally got GenToo 
installed so that I have a bash prompt, when I tried to do

emerge -u gnome mozilla openoffice kde

it chugged for about 48 hours then came up with no more disk space 
available and sure enough, stat -f .   from / showed that my 5 GB linux 
root partition was full.

Most of the space seems to be taken up by /var/tmp which I can't clear out 
with rmdir because there are hundreds of subdirectories under that all 
apparently full of files.

I've tried moving /var/tmp to /tmp to see if the clean up /tmp function 
cleans it up. It does not.

Now that I've resized my windows partition, I have a 2GB wad of unallocated 
space just before the (full) Linux root partition, but I can't seem to add 
any of that free space to the full root partition.  Partition Magic won't 
let me do it from Windows, and parted is not found in linux.  fdisk tells 
me I have to delete a partition before I can add another one.  I'm 
reluctant to do that because if I re-install W2K on this PC, the 
proprietary install CD for W2K that came with this PC will completely 
reformat the hard drive and set it up as a single partition for the use of 
Windows.   If I delete one of the linux partitions, I suspect I'll have to 
go through the 4-day linux re-install.

Is there another way to get around this?  I need to be able to delete the 
/var/tmp directory to free up some disk space or to merge the unallocated 2 
GB wad into the existing (full) linux root partition.
Is there a problem with the install procedure?  Does it really take more 
than 5 GB to install all this?   I notice there are a huge wad of games 
directories in

My current partition layout is: (mostly from the  fdisk p command)

/dev/hda1 bootable 1 268 2152678+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 bootable 269 273 40162+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda3  274 336  506047+ 82 Linux swap
unallocated space 337 578
/dev/hda4 579 1245 5357677+ 83 Linux
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Re: [gentoo-user] masked packages

2004-01-02 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:36:55 -0800
Ben Munat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do I find out why a package is masked? I read about package.mask, 
 but the package I'm trying to get (eclipse-sdk) isn't in there.
 Perhaps something eclipse depends on (ant??) being masked results in
 eclipse being masked?
 
It is currently marked as unstable (~x86) in the ebuild.

To install it, do:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge eclipse-sdk

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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Lincoln A. Baxter
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 15:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:11:40 -0500 Lincoln A. Baxter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip] 
 | 1.) Last May I contributed this: 
 | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21580
 | 
 | It has yet to show up in portage. And not official comments are in the
 | bug.  Now I know there are MANY who think qconfirm is a bad idea, I
 | don't even use myself any more, especially since spam assassin has
 | gotten so much better.  Even if one disagrees with using this, is this
 | a reason to make it hard for others, when some user has taken the time
 | to build a perfectly good ebuild, that makes it easier for the next
 | guy?. That, it seems to me is DICTATING POLICY!. At the very least
 | they should put a comment into the bug that says that AREN't going to
 | accept it and WHY!
 
 That hasn't been rejected. It's just that no developer is willing to
 accept responsibility for it.

Hmmm... not that I'm interested anymore but, why not invite the
contributor to maintain it?  That would do TWO things:  Let him know the
status... and inform him of whats required...  He could then decide to
pass if he felt he could not do it, or was not interested enough. Isn't
the contributor the best person to maintain it anyway?

 
 | 3.)  I have developed an ebuild for the perl interface to the Xerces-c
 | XML parser. Which is a bit of a pain to build. The Gentoo guides for
 | submitting ebuilds says that the perl herders need to approve such
 | ebiulds.  Well, they do not even tell you how to send mail to the perl
 | herders. (No link, no nothing).   So I have a perfectly good ebuild
 | for perl's XML-Xerces module in my portage overlay dir, that I have
 | not submitted, because of my experience with bug 21580, and my
 | inability to find the perl herders.
 
 This should probably be handled by g-cpan.pl,

How can you say that?  Have you built XML-Xerces successfully with
g-cpan.pl?  I doubt it.

It has a dependency on dev-libs/xerces-c,
AND, it requires specific EVs be set prior to building.

BTW: here is the output of g-cpan.pl as far is it gets:

lws root # g-cpan.pl  XML-Xerces 
mkdir /tmp/perl-modules_28142
mkdir /tmp/perl-modules_28142/dev-perl
CPAN: Storable loaded ok
CPAN: LWP::UserAgent loaded ok
Fetching with LWP:
  ftp://ftp.saintjoe.edu/pub/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz
LWP failed with code[400] message[FTP return code 000]
Fetching with Net::FTP:
  ftp://ftp.saintjoe.edu/pub/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz

etc...  works real well I'd say... Doesn't even move on to another
server on failure.  My /root/.cpan/MIRRORED.BY file has over 200 lines
that would qualify as mirrors for this file... 


  but if not, a google
 search for Gentoo perl herd will tell you everything you need.

Did you try that? I get: 

   Your search - Gentoo perl herd - did not match any documents. 

Other searches take one back the the Guidelines docs that have no links
or addresses.

 
 | I am waiting to see if the Zynot folks (http://www.zynot.org/) produce
 | anything usable, and whether they will be a little more accepting of
 | user contributions.
 
 I hope you enjoy long waits :)

You are probably right... but you never know, sometimes (often?) small
groups of people can do amazing things... look at gentoo :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates

2004-01-02 Thread Mickey Mullin
SN wrote:
As soon as gentoo starts to create scripts for any crap I switch again to
another distro, the advantage of not having tools for anything is, that
those tools can't break.
Look at Suse RedHat Mandrake, 30% of their bugs come from the tools they
wrote.
Having tools available doesn't mean that you are required to use them. 
I don't use RedHat any more, but when I *was*, I would edit 
configuration files by hand rather than use the tools provided with the 
distro.  One, I don't like installing a GUI on a server (it seems that 
the graphical configuration tools are better known in later RH 
versions).  Two, if I have to first find and then read about a tool that 
simply writes text to a file, I'd rather edit the file by hand.  I find 
that easier.  (Finding distro-specific config tools is much more 
difficult on a CLI, since you can't just browse to System Tools in the 
application menu.)

However, there are probably hundreds or thousands of people using those 
tools in place of file editing.  Seriously, do you still append users to 
the end of /etc/passwd with vi, or do you use useradd?  (I do both, 
depending on circumstances.)

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[gentoo-user] Sharing /usr/portage across machines?

2004-01-02 Thread Manuel McLure
I have two machines running Gentoo - one is an Athlon XP updated to 
latest ~x86, the other is a plain Athlon updated to x86. I'd like to 
have only one copy of /usr/portage that I NFS mount from one machine to 
another, so I can save disk space and network bandwidth (i.e., only do 
emerge sync once, only download files into /usr/portage/distfiles 
once, etc.)

As far as I can tell, all the host-specific stuff is outside 
/usr/portage - is there any reason I can't just NFS mount /usr/portage 
it from one machine to the other?

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install / Portage-browser

2004-01-02 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 02 Jan 2004 19:45, Mickey Mullin wrote:
 Drake Wyrm wrote:
  Even power-users could get some use out of a GUI. It would be a
  great way to browse through all the metadata stored in the Portage
  tree and Portage-related databases.

 Take a look at kportage.

 http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-portage;name=kporta
ge

KPortage is lamentably broken.  Try http://porthole.sourceforge.net/, it 
shows promise.

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing /usr/portage across machines?

2004-01-02 Thread Mickey Mullin
Manuel McLure wrote:
I have two machines running Gentoo - one is an Athlon XP updated to 
latest ~x86, the other is a plain Athlon updated to x86. I'd like to 
have only one copy of /usr/portage that I NFS mount from one machine to 
another, so I can save disk space and network bandwidth (i.e., only do 
emerge sync once, only download files into /usr/portage/distfiles 
once, etc.)

As far as I can tell, all the host-specific stuff is outside 
/usr/portage - is there any reason I can't just NFS mount /usr/portage 
it from one machine to the other?
Have you considered using emerge sync on one of the boxes and using 
plain old rsync to update the other box with the portage directory 
from that one?  A simple shell script should do nicely (after setting up 
rsync, of course).

mickey



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[gentoo-user] accessing a USB memory device

2004-01-02 Thread Bruce E. Harris
How do I access a compact flash memory card thru Gentoo? I dont see any 
storage device icons on my desktop, and do not see this card listed in 
/etc/fstab but do see it under /etc/mtab as

 /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw,noatime 0 0

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Re: [gentoo-user] accessing a USB memory device

2004-01-02 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Bruce E. Harris wrote:
How do I access a compact flash memory card thru Gentoo? I dont see any 
storage device icons on my desktop, and do not see this card listed in 
/etc/fstab but do see it under /etc/mtab as

 /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw,noatime 0 0
hmmm ... u are lucky boy, if it works somehow itself :-).

Normally it needs kernel modules for usb, usb mass storage,
supported card reader, proper modules.conf ... etc.
I guess u are useing scsi hdd and /dev/sda1 is a boot
partition on it ... am I right ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Vanilla install problems

2004-01-02 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 22:00, Ullrich Fischer wrote:
 I'm trying to install Gentoo (vanilla-sources) onto an old Toshiba Equium 
 7350S.  It has a 10 GB IDE drive which I've partitioned with Partition 
 Magic Pro to leave my Windows 2k partition at about 2 GB.  I initially 
 partitioned it to about 4 GB, but found that after I finally got GenToo 
 installed so that I have a bash prompt, when I tried to do
 
 emerge -u gnome mozilla openoffice kde
 

I made this mistake too, once. Hint: there is an openoffice-bin package
:) (mozilla+kde should compile in a reasonable timeframe...)

Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:31:30 +, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not really. Contributed ebuilds will generally be accepted pretty
quickly so long as they meet the following criteria:
* They follow Policy

What exactly does that mean?

* The package is maintained upstream

What exactly does that mean?

* A developer is willing to maintain it

How do you know this in advance?

That hasn't been rejected. It's just that no developer is willing to
accept responsibility for it.

Or do you mean with developer, a developer from gentoo?

I hope you enjoy long waits :)

Actually the only good experience with patch policy, I had so far, is with the
wine folks. They accept patches from anybody and they are commited in a
reasonable time. Of course I don' t expect each and every patch to show up
immediately, but in other projects I also had the experience that I submitted
code and you get no good answers. One time I submitted an entire new control
for a gui lib, which the author said would be great to have and I never got a
response. Not if the author accepts or not and if not for what reason
whatsoever. This is quite frustrating.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Vanilla install problems

2004-01-02 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 08:00, Ullrich Fischer wrote:
 when I tried to do
 
 emerge -u gnome mozilla openoffice kde
 
 it chugged for about 48 hours then came up with no more disk space 
 available ... / showed that my 5 GB linux 
 root partition was full.

Yes, OpenOffice alone really does require almost 5 GB of space to build.
Even more if you have FEATURE=buildpkg set.

 Most of the space seems to be taken up by /var/tmp which I can't clear out 
 with rmdir because there are hundreds of subdirectories under that all 
 apparently full of files.

To nuke subdirectories recursively use rm -r dirname, not rmdir

If you no-shit have 5 GB free on whatever partition has /var/tmp on it,
then you should be ok. Otherwise, download the openoffice-bin package,
and it should just work.

AfC

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Re: [gentoo-user] Base layout causing pointless config updates

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:28:19 -0500, Mickey Mullin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the end of /etc/passwd with vi, or do you use useradd?  (I do both, 
depending on circumstances.)

Actually I do that almost always, because I don' t do that to often, it' s
easy to do, and it's much more hassle to lookup the appropriate
comandlineoptions. Entry in /etc/passwd in /etc/shadow and creating the user.
Eventually in /etc/groups and that's it. If you know the options by heart then
its convinient to use such a tool, though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing /usr/portage across machines?

2004-01-02 Thread Mike Arrison
On Jan 02 13:36, Manuel McLure wrote:
 I have two machines running Gentoo - one is an Athlon XP updated to 
 latest ~x86, the other is a plain Athlon updated to x86. I'd like to 
 have only one copy of /usr/portage that I NFS mount from one machine to 
 another, so I can save disk space and network bandwidth (i.e., only do 
 emerge sync once, only download files into /usr/portage/distfiles 
 once, etc.)
 
 As far as I can tell, all the host-specific stuff is outside 
 /usr/portage - is there any reason I can't just NFS mount /usr/portage 
 it from one machine to the other?

There is no reason you can't do it.  In fact I do it with a bunch of
machines currently.  The only thing you'll have to watch out for is
laptops.  I used to tell my laptop to mount /usr/portage, but when I'm
away from home and need to update something, it becomes a pain, so I
recommend letting all portable machines keep their own copy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:27:14 +0100 Gerhard W. Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Not really. Contributed ebuilds will generally be accepted pretty
| quickly so long as they meet the following criteria:
| * They follow Policy
| 
| What exactly does that mean?

There are documents on gentoo.org that explain the requirements here. To
start with:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/policy.xml
http://dev.gentoo.org/~liquidx/ebuildmistakes.html

| * The package is maintained upstream
| 
| What exactly does that mean?

Exactly what it says.

| * A developer is willing to maintain it
| 
| How do you know this in advance?

You might not... If you're worried, try to find an interested developer
beforehand.

| That hasn't been rejected. It's just that no developer is willing to
| accept responsibility for it.
| 
| Or do you mean with developer, a developer from gentoo?

Yeah, someone with sufficient cvs access to Gentoo's tree to maintain
the ebuilds in portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:20:50 -0500 Lincoln A. Baxter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hmmm... not that I'm interested anymore but, why not invite the
| contributor to maintain it?  That would do TWO things:  Let him know
| the status... and inform him of whats required...  He could then
| decide to pass if he felt he could not do it, or was not interested
| enough. Isn't the contributor the best person to maintain it anyway?

The contributor would need cvs access to do that. Right now that's not
an option.

|  This should probably be handled by g-cpan.pl,
| 
| How can you say that?  Have you built XML-Xerces successfully with
| g-cpan.pl?  I doubt it.

*shrug* Haven't even looked at it. If you've got issues with g-cpan.pl,
better to fix that.
  
|   but if not, a google
|  search for Gentoo perl herd will tell you everything you need.
| 
| Did you try that? I get: 
| 
|Your search - Gentoo perl herd - did not match any documents. 

No , sorry, should have stated that explicitly.

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[gentoo-user] Re: how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Eamon Caddigan
Gerhard W Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:31:30 +, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Not really. Contributed ebuilds will generally be accepted pretty
quickly so long as they meet the following criteria:
 
* The package is maintained upstream
 
 What exactly does that mean?

I read this to mean that Gentoo won't accept packages that aren't
actively being developed. Which, in my opinion, isn't necessarily a
great policy.

Sometimes, a program gets to the point where it does everything the
developer wants, and it's *done*. I submitted an ebuild for one program
I use *all the time*, but I guess it won't make it into portage because
it's a couple years old. I'm not taking this personally, but it's a
shame that a lot of Gentoo users will never use this package because
it's unmaintained.

 Actually the only good experience with patch policy, I had so far, is
 with the wine folks. They accept patches from anybody and they are
 commited in a reasonable time. Of course I don' t expect each and
 every patch to show up immediately, but in other projects I also had
 the experience that I submitted code and you get no good answers. One
 time I submitted an entire new control for a gui lib, which the author
 said would be great to have and I never got a response. Not if the
 author accepts or not and if not for what reason whatsoever. This is
 quite frustrating.

That's the cool thing about (free and) open source -- if you don't like
where the project is headed you can just fork it. Maybe you don't have
time to maintain your fork, but if somebody else wants the feature you
added, they can have it.

-Eamon


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[gentoo-user] SDL/GL issues...

2004-01-02 Thread Scott Jackson
okay, this was a problem of mine that was never answered:
Error: X11 driver not configured with opengl
the answer to this problem can be found here:
http://cloud.prohosting.com/patos/docs/pinball_on_hpux11.htm
I quote, Important notice: if the following start warning appears:
Couldn't set video mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL

recompile SDL with: enable_video_opengl=yes

How do I do this in emerge?

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Re: [gentoo-user] masked packages

2004-01-02 Thread Ben Munat
Hoo! Man, eclipse-sdk wants about 100 packages! Why the heck would I 
need cdparanoia or a bunch from media-libs to run eclipse?

...

Hmm... I noticed that this was for eclipse-sdk-3.0.0_pre5 (no wonder 
it's masked) and if I say =eclipse-sdk-2.1, it only wants about a dozen 
packages... with no media or kde stuff... I guess I'll do that.

b

Ian Truelsen wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:36:55 -0800
Ben Munat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How do I find out why a package is masked? I read about package.mask, 
but the package I'm trying to get (eclipse-sdk) isn't in there.
Perhaps something eclipse depends on (ant??) being masked results in
eclipse being masked?

It is currently marked as unstable (~x86) in the ebuild.

To install it, do:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge eclipse-sdk



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Gerhard W . Gruber
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:13:10 + (UTC), Eamon Caddigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Sometimes, a program gets to the point where it does everything the
developer wants, and it's *done*. I submitted an ebuild for one program
I use *all the time*, but I guess it won't make it into portage because
it's a couple years old. I'm not taking this personally, but it's a
shame that a lot of Gentoo users will never use this package because
it's unmaintained.

Ah that's it. I didn't get what that upstream was supposed to mean as I'm not
a native speaker.

I myself have a project on sourceforge which is not totally finished (I have
some features I will incorporate) but it works to my satisfaction and the
lacking features are not exactly important to me.

That's the cool thing about (free and) open source -- if you don't like
where the project is headed you can just fork it. Maybe you don't have
time to maintain your fork, but if somebody else wants the feature you
added, they can have it.

That depends. In that case I added a complete new control (which took some
time to develop) to a gui lib. Coding a new gui lib is qutie complex, so I
switched to another lib which is much better anyway, and also better
maintained. 2 years after my submission I checked to lib again and it still
hadn't made much progress. Actually it was lucky for me because now I use
wxWindows which is much superior.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how long does it take to commit a patch to portage

2004-01-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:13:10 + (UTC) Eamon Caddigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| * The package is maintained upstream
|  
|  What exactly does that mean?
| 
| I read this to mean that Gentoo won't accept packages that aren't
| actively being developed. Which, in my opinion, isn't necessarily a
| great policy.

That's not a hard rule. It's just that we tend to be reluctant about
adding dead projects to portage because they tend to be a lot more work
for us.
 
| Sometimes, a program gets to the point where it does everything the
| developer wants, and it's *done*. I submitted an ebuild for one
| program I use *all the time*, but I guess it won't make it into
| portage because it's a couple years old. I'm not taking this
| personally, but it's a shame that a lot of Gentoo users will never use
| this package because it's unmaintained.

There's a difference between developed and maintained. Basically, we
need someone that can help if bugs are discovered. It's a lot easier if
we don't have to use Gentoo-specific patches.

There are, of course, stacks of exceptions to this particular
guideline... It's just that I (and most other devs) don't like adding
code that I can't easily get fixes for :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't watch DVD Movies!!

2004-01-02 Thread Joel Wright
Might be worth installing xine as well. In my experience xine plays
dvd's much better than mplayer (and you'll get the menus and stuff). I
never could make mplayer do that!

Have Fun,
Joel.

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 16:30, Colin Falkinburg wrote:
 I just put a CDRW/DVD combo in my gentoo box and when I run gmplayer, it 
 says the the format is not recognized. It will only play asf, mpeg ... What 
 am I missing? Is there a particular app that needs to be merged?
 
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[gentoo-user] cdrecord takes a huge amount of time to detect my cdrw

2004-01-02 Thread Anupam Kapoor
hi all,

i am having a strange problem. when i run 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus'
it takes a huge amount of time to detect the cdrw on my machine.

here is the output of the above command:

,
| parth# time cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
| Cdrecord 2.01a14 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg Schilling
| scsidev: 'ATAPI'
| devname: 'ATAPI'
| scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
| Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
| Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
| Warning: There may be fatal problems.
| Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
| scsibus0:
| 0,0,0 0) '' '' '' NON CCS Disk
| 0,1,0 1) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX1611   ' 'TYS7' Removable CD-ROM
| 0,2,0 2) *
| 0,3,0 3) *
| 0,4,0 4) *
| 0,5,0 5) *
| 0,6,0 6) *
| 0,7,0 7) *
| cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus  0.00s user 0.01s system 0% cpu 8:38.90 total
| parth# 
`

i am using the latest sources (2.6.0). on the gentoo forums it was
mentioned that with the latest kernels, we can use 'normal' atapi
burning, i don't have any scsi modules compiled in my kernel.

any ideas on what i might be doing wrong ?


thank you
kind regards
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[gentoo-user] Portage Wierdness

2004-01-02 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I did my emerge sync, then ran emerge -uD system -p with no problems (no 
updates needed either).  I ran emerge -uD world -p and got the errors 
below.  emerge -u world -p works and gives me a small list of packages 
to update.

Any ideas on what's broken and how to fix it?  The emerge info output is 
 below but I'm running portage 2.0.49-r20.  The system has been running 
well until this.  The only issue I have had was yesterday with emerge -S 
not working.

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 2170, in ?
if not mydepgraph.xcreate(myaction):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 1036, in xcreate
if not self.create(myk):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 749, in create
if not self.select_dep(/,mydep[/],myparent=mp,myuse=myuse):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 939, in select_dep
if not self.create(myk,myparent,myuse=binpkguseflags):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 749, in create
if not self.select_dep(/,mydep[/],myparent=mp,myuse=myuse):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 871, in select_dep
myeb=portage.portdb.xmatch(bestmatch-visible,x)
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4067, in xmatch
myval=best(self.xmatch(match-visible,None,mydep,mykey))
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4078, in xmatch
myval=self.match2(mydep,mykey,self.xmatch(list-visible,None,mydep,mykey))
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4064, in xmatch
Portage 2.0.49-r20 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3, 
2.4.20-xfs-r4)
=
System uname: 2.4.20-xfs-r4 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) MP 2000+
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.10
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-mp -O2 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
COMPILER=gcc3
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.1/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config 
/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ 
/var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-mp -O2 -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoaddcvs ccache fixpackages keeptemp keepwork noclean sandbox
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo 
http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo;
MAKEOPTS=-j3
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
POPORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X aalib acl alsa apm avi berkdb cdr crypt cups doc dvd encode 
foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gtk gtk2 imlib jack jack-caps jack-tmpfs java 
jpeg libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mpeg nas ncurses nls oggvorbis 
opengl oss pam pdflib perl png python quicktime readline scanner sdl 
slang spell ssl svga tcltk tcpd tetex truetype usb videos x86 xfs 
xinerama xml2 xmms xv zlib
RTDIR=/usr/portage

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[gentoo-user] couriertls problem

2004-01-02 Thread Jonathan Nichols
(also posted to courier-users)

Greetings!
This just started today..
Jan  2 15:59:27 [imapd-ssl] Connection, ip=[192.168.10.78]
Jan  2 15:59:27 [imapd-ssl] LOGIN: DEBUG: ip=[192.168.10.78], 
command=AUTHENTICATE
Jan  2 15:59:30 [imapd-ssl] LOGIN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ip=[192.168.10.78], protocol=IMAP
Jan  2 15:59:34 [imapd-ssl] couriertls: read: error:140943FC:SSL 
routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad record mac
Jan  2 15:59:34 [imapd-ssl] DISCONNECTED, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ip=[192.168.10.78], headers=938, body=0

Only when using Pine, too - I see the message numbers, but that's it. 
When I try to actually read a message, I get [MAIL FOLDER INBOX 
CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]

I've seen a few newsgroup postings quoting a similar error, but SSL is 
working fine with Mozilla. It's only Pine that seems to be having the 
problem (so far)

Any ideas? Thanks!

-Jonathan

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Re: [gentoo-user] accessing a USB memory device

2004-01-02 Thread Bruce E. Harris
Sorry, wrong line. the correct /etc/mtab is:

none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

I have a USB  mouse, and it works just find, just cant figure out how to 
access a compact flash card. I did find a new section for flash memory under 
kernel config, trying that now. Thanks for the tip

Yes, my system is SCSI and dual Althon MP.

On Friday 02 January 2004 05:18 pm, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 Bruce E. Harris wrote:
  How do I access a compact flash memory card thru Gentoo? I dont see any
  storage device icons on my desktop, and do not see this card listed in
  /etc/fstab but do see it under /etc/mtab as
 
   /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw,noatime 0 0

 hmmm ... u are lucky boy, if it works somehow itself :-).

 Normally it needs kernel modules for usb, usb mass storage,
 supported card reader, proper modules.conf ... etc.

 I guess u are useing scsi hdd and /dev/sda1 is a boot
 partition on it ... am I right ?

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