Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread LostSon
On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:50 am, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 02:17:07 PM -0600, LostSon said:
> > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:23 pm, LostSon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 07:53 pm, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> > > > * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 04:10:02 AM -0600, LostSon said:
>
> [...]
>
> > > > >  Ok so this means what ??  When i try to compile it i didnt get any
> > > > > beeps or warnings ?
>
> [...]
>
> > > > This means that if you edit /etc/make.conf and add 'nptlonly' to USE
> > > > that you will not build glibc twice, and hence will half the time it
> > > > takes to build it now. Since it is already built I would not re-merge
> > > > it, however the next update will be significantly shorter.
> > >
> > >  Thats just it it never did finish after 26 hours i killed it.
> > > Hopefully this info will help though thanks.
> >
> >  Well adding that flag it didnt help??
>
> I apologize, I did not understand your problem and answered with
> something totally irrelevant.

 Thats ok i have started a fresh install and just got to 20041102-r and its 
failed. This is a fresh install and its failing i anm trying an accept 
keywords on it now that takes it too 20050125-r1 hopefully this one will 
compile ok. Cross your fingers and thanks for the help.

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[gentoo-user] etcat & equery

2005-03-24 Thread Russ Brown
From what I can gather etcat is being phased out in favour of equery. 
All fine and dandy, except that etcat has functionality that equery does 
not that I find useful:

First up is 'etcat versions'. Given a package name this lists all 
versions of the package that are in portage, along with masking state 
and also marks which versions are currently installed. There is no 
equivalent to this in equery that I can find. Very useful.

The other is that the 'uses' command in etcat is far more useful than 
query's equivalent, in that it will list use flags for packages that you 
don't have installed yet, along with highlighting which are currently 
configured to be enabled. If you run it against a package that *is* 
installed it shows you which are enabled in the installed version along 
with marking which flags differ between the configured and the actually 
installed.

These are both really useful features. The really annoying thing is that 
etcat uses doesn't actually work at the moment (traceback below), which 
means I have to install the package to find out what use flags I 
actually want, and then install the package again! Well, that or go 
looking through the gentoo files myself, but that's what these 
utillities are supposed to help you avoid. Yes, I know I can do an 
emerge -pv  to see a list of the use flags, but that doesn't 
explain what they all mean, which etcat did.

Anyone know if equery is going to be brought up to the level of etcat in 
these cases?

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread LostSon
On Thursday 24 March 2005 02:10 am, LostSon wrote:
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:50 am, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> > * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 02:17:07 PM -0600, LostSon said:
> > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:23 pm, LostSon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 07:53 pm, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> > > > > * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 04:10:02 AM -0600, LostSon said:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > > >  Ok so this means what ??  When i try to compile it i didnt get
> > > > > > any beeps or warnings ?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > > This means that if you edit /etc/make.conf and add 'nptlonly' to
> > > > > USE that you will not build glibc twice, and hence will half the
> > > > > time it takes to build it now. Since it is already built I would
> > > > > not re-merge it, however the next update will be significantly
> > > > > shorter.
> > > >
> > > >  Thats just it it never did finish after 26 hours i killed it.
> > > > Hopefully this info will help though thanks.
> > >
> > >  Well adding that flag it didnt help??
> >
> > I apologize, I did not understand your problem and answered with
> > something totally irrelevant.
>
>  Thats ok i have started a fresh install and just got to 20041102-r and its
> failed. This is a fresh install and its failing i anm trying an accept
> keywords on it now that takes it too 20050125-r1 hopefully this one will
> compile ok. Cross your fingers and thanks for the help.

 Ok check that 20050125-r1 has failed now also and this is a fresh build. Im 
at a complete loss i cant believe both of these fail on a fresh install.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Submitting an ebuild

2005-03-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 05:30, Bill Six wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just built an ebuild for wx4j (http://www.wx4j.org).
>  I have never made one before.  How do I submit it
> into the portage tree?
>
> Do I sign up for the gentoo-submissions list and do it
> that way?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Six
>

Search bugs.gentoo.org and see if one has been requested already.  If it has 
add the ebuild to that report, otherwise create your own and add it there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emacs is very slow at startup

2005-03-24 Thread Marc Schlienger
Am Montag, 21. März 2005 15:16 schrieb Hans-Werner Hilse:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:52:21 +0100
>
> Marc Schlienger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now I also realized that emacs isn't the only program which is (only
> > sometimes) very slow at startup. It's the same with ddd. Using strace
> > don't give me any hints.
>
> It's not designed to give you directly hints what *is* wrong. But at
> least you should be able to tell us where emacs (or ddd, respectively)
> spends all its time. And that gives you a hint for further searching.
> And if you quote the relevant lines of the strace, some people on this
> list may well be able to help you. Read the strace man page, esp. the
> options -t/-tt/-f.
>

I know about strace since I used it before. It doesn't give me any hints 
because the time it shows doesn't depend on how fast emacs starts. 

> Given your description, it sounds like a typical timeout. Does name
> resolution work flawlessly on your machine? Does "localhost" resolve to
> sane settings? But these are just shots in the dark...

I can't verify if localhost is resolving to sane settings because at the 
moment I'am installing a new system. I'm giving Gentoo another try.
But I have another question about the domainname. During installation I have 
to set dnsdomainname. Should I also set domainname? In my hosts file I have
got the line

127.0.0.1   localhost

Is this sufficient if I use dhcp to get an ip adress?

When I finished this installation I'll mail again with more complete 
descriptions about name resolution but I think that could have been the 
problem. Thank's for the tip!

Regards Marc
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread LostSon
On Thursday 24 March 2005 02:20 am, LostSon wrote:
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 02:10 am, LostSon wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:50 am, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> > > * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 02:17:07 PM -0600, LostSon said:
> > > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:23 pm, LostSon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 07:53 pm, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> > > > > > * On Tue Mar-22-2005 at 04:10:02 AM -0600, LostSon said:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > > >  Ok so this means what ??  When i try to compile it i didnt get
> > > > > > > any beeps or warnings ?
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > > This means that if you edit /etc/make.conf and add 'nptlonly' to
> > > > > > USE that you will not build glibc twice, and hence will half the
> > > > > > time it takes to build it now. Since it is already built I would
> > > > > > not re-merge it, however the next update will be significantly
> > > > > > shorter.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Thats just it it never did finish after 26 hours i killed it.
> > > > > Hopefully this info will help though thanks.
> > > >
> > > >  Well adding that flag it didnt help??
> > >
> > > I apologize, I did not understand your problem and answered with
> > > something totally irrelevant.
> >
> >  Thats ok i have started a fresh install and just got to 20041102-r and
> > its failed. This is a fresh install and its failing i anm trying an
> > accept keywords on it now that takes it too 20050125-r1 hopefully this
> > one will compile ok. Cross your fingers and thanks for the help.
>
>  Ok check that 20050125-r1 has failed now also and this is a fresh build.
> Im at a complete loss i cant believe both of these fail on a fresh install.

 Ok still failing with this error

  * Installing man pages and docs...
/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault  env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 1008, Exitcode 139
!!! simple run test (ls) failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message. 

 This is freakin nuts

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Re: [gentoo-user] etcat & equery

2005-03-24 Thread Mariusz Pękala
On 2005-03-24 08:05:06 + (Thu, Mar), Russ Brown wrote:
> These are both really useful features. The really annoying thing is that 
> etcat uses doesn't actually work at the moment (traceback below), which 
> means I have to install the package to find out what use flags I 
> actually want, and then install the package again! Well, that or go 
> looking through the gentoo files myself, but that's what these 
> utillities are supposed to help you avoid. Yes, I know I can do an 
> emerge -pv  to see a list of the use flags, but that doesn't 
> explain what they all mean, which etcat did.
> 
> Anyone know if equery is going to be brought up to the level of etcat in 
> these cases?

This I know not ;-) but you may find this little script useful:
(quick and dirty, I know)
== coflag.sh ===
#!/bin/bash

if [ $# -eq 0 ]
then
  # use stdin
  flags=''
  while read f
  do
f=$(echo "$f" | sed 's/[^a-zA-Z0-9_+-]/ /g' )
for f2 in $f
do
  if [ \( "x${f2:0:1}" = "x-" \) -o \( "x${f2:0:1}" = "x+" \) ]
  then
flags="${flags} ${f2}"
  fi
done
  done
  flags="$(echo "${flags}" | sed "s/ /\n/g" | sed 's/^[-+]//' | sort -u )"
else
  flags="$(echo "$*" | sed 's/^[-+]\|\W[-+]/ /g' | sed 's/[^-a-zA-Z0-9_]/ /g' )"
  echo " $flags"
fi

cd /usr/portage/profiles
for x in $flags; do
  grep -e "^$x " -e ":$x " use.* | while read pf opis; do
plik="${pf%:*}"
flaga="${pf##*:}"
tput setaf 6
echo -n "$plik: "
tput sgr0
tput setaf 1
tput bold
echo -n "$flaga "
tput sgr0
echo "$opis"
  done
done
= EOF ==
 $ emerge -pv mod_php | coflag
or
 $ coflag pam -pam +pam '-pam*'
or whatever ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How big does the swap should be?

2005-03-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 12:40 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
> Wang Penghui ha scritto:
> > Hello:
> > 
> > I want to install gentoo on a pc box as daily use and test bed. And the
> > follow is its hardwares:
> > 
> > CPU: Intel C4 1.7G
> > Mem: 1G
> > HardDisk: 40G
> > 
> > I wandor know how big the swap partition should be?
> > 
> > And how to design the other partitions?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Wang
> 
> Some time in the past all was saying to you that the swap space must be 
> at least double the ram, i.e. 2G in your case.
> Nowadays with so much ram probably you can safely limit that to 1GB.
> 
> Many times with kernel 2.6 and a lot of ram I simply disable swap in the 
> kernel config. But every time I point this out all the world flame me so 
> probably is not the best thing to do. Simply it work for me.
> 


only exception would be if you're thinking of softwre  suspend/suspend
to disk.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XEN and the ebuilds in bugzilla

2005-03-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 07:58 -0500, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> > Dudes all, 
> > 
> > Has anyone been successful in getting XEN to run/build using the ebuild
> > in bugzilla?  It keeps dying on my with "asm' error or something. Can't
> > rememeber.
> > 
> > But I filed the bug in bugzilla under that ebuild.
> > 
> 
> no, itr failed for me and after a few trials, I gave up and did a 
> straight source build from the xen tarball.  worked great and I am very 
> happy except for the need to buy more memory.


Hmm.. Okay.. if that's really the case.. then I may look into it. The
problem here is that. I only have 1 laptop and I don't expecially feel
like trashing it incase stuffs fails.
> 
> hint.  use lvm to build the disk images use for your DomU images.   it 
> makes management of your storage *much* easier

I'm not sure what you mean.. but I think I'll find out and I'll thank
you for your guidance later :-)


> I'm also working out a method of handling updates.  Dom0 is my rsync and 
> portage cache.  I will also become my precompiled package cache.  I may 
> play with nfs copies of cache data to save on storage.
> 
> -- eric
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 9686 vs. Pentium4 mcpu/march

2005-03-24 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Kiawud ha scritto:
I'm sure this has come up often, but I thought I'd ask it anyway
Is there a real performance difference between using a simple, generic
i686 mcpu flag as opposed to the pentium4 march/mcpu flag?
For reference, my system is a pentium 4 (obviously) with 1GB RAM.  I
use it pretty much for:
Internet surfing
no
Downloading
no
Ripping CD's (hopefully soon to rip DVD's)
yes
Watching videos (mplayer)
yes
Listening to music (xmms)
yes
Some programming (small C++, PERL scripts, maybe some JAVA)
no
Running a personal web server (apache)
no
MySQL (for the webserver ... again, personal)
no
I DON'T really use it for gaming.
where "no" means no changes "yes" means things can go better, "yes" 
doesn't mean that things will be perceptual better.

Any thoughts?
-Hani
P.S.:  Also, is there difference between using the mcpu vs. march flag?
don't remember but man gcc /march explain this
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Stroller
On Mar 24, 2005, at 1:53 am, Christoph Eckert wrote:

Guess you didn't look very hard.
Errr, OK, I'm just on holidays so I have no access to the
machine, but I'd bet that there was no fstab at all as I
tried to check it out. Maybe its existance depends on any
environment parameters?
Under Jaguar it used to contain comments along the lines of "this is 
unused, except during the boot process. don't modify it, but don't 
bother using it, either". The Panther /etc/fstab/ is more terse, but 
I'm sure the situation is the same. I think this is why jnichols said 
":P" in his post.

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RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 19:24 -0800, maxim wexler wrote:
>  > Can you log in as the user at all?  Or are you
> > trying only from su?
>  
> only from su...don't know what this means. After boot
> I login as user or root. If, as user, I enter su, I
> get error, acct expired. Am I missing something, some
> gentoo-specific method here? When I ran slack or
> redhat I would su as user($), enter a password, and be
> presented with a root prompt(#) on the next line with
> all the privileges of root at my disposal.
> 
> > Are there any messages in /var/log/messages (or your
> > equivalent) that might
> > apply?
> 
> almost positive, no. 

run it through strace and see what is happening.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Submitting an ebuild

2005-03-24 Thread Nick Rout
you submit it to bugs.gentoo.org. That is the only, repeat only, way

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 21:30 -0800, Bill Six wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just built an ebuild for wx4j (http://www.wx4j.org).
>  I have never made one before.  How do I submit it
> into the portage tree?
> 
> Do I sign up for the gentoo-submissions list and do it
> that way?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Six
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] running openvpn twice

2005-03-24 Thread Patrick Marquetecken

> Hi!
>
> May ask what for? Are we talking here "server" or "client"?

Server to server
I vave seen with our tests that we consume now just half our bandwith, so
i was thinking of a second tunnel to the same machine and devide the
traffic.

Patrick

>
> Regards
>
> spox
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 23.03.2005, 20:11 +0100 schrieb Patrick Marquetecken:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wan't to run openvpn twice, whats the best way to do this ?
>> I can always duplicate the startup script.
>>
>> Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg emerge seg-fault -- NOT ram!

2005-03-24 Thread Qian Qiao
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:01:48 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Thanks for all the hints to help with this
> not-fixed-yet-problem.
> 
> Here's more info:
> 
> $ gcc --version
> gcc (GCC) 3.3.4 20040623 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.4-r1,
> ssp-3.3.2-2, pie-8.7.6)
> Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux tux 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 #5 Sun Mar 13 11:52:11 MST
> 2005 i586 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor AuthenticAMD
> GNU/Linux
> 
> $ cat /etc/make.conf
> # These settings were set by the catalyst build script
> that automatically built this stage
> # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more
> detailed example
> CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i386 -fomit-frame-pointer"

You could confortably add mtune and march here, can't you? And the
settings should reflect your true hardware underneath.

> CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"

Why i386, could go i586, coudn't it? 

> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> MAKEOPTS="-j2"
> PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
> PORTDIR=/usr/portage
> DISTDIR=${PORTDIR}/distfiles
> PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
> PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
> #PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
> 
> ie just the defaults suggested by the install doc. I
> commented out that last line IIRC because it caused a
> red exclamation point to appear next to it as the
> install process continued.
> 
> The unit is fairly old(in PC years!) but the video
> card, a Radeon 9250, isn't.
> 
> BTW, there is no /etc/portage/package.use file;
> there is only /etc/portage/sets -- an empty dir.
> 

I once had a segfault problem, I then added the mtune, march flags,
and the segfaults were gone, might have been luck tho.

HTH

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[gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4 b0rkage with segmentation fault

2005-03-24 Thread Stroller
Any suggestions? I get this as part of an `emerge -u world`
System is a Duron 1300 installed from a stage 3 two or three months 
ago. I was running with -j5 & distcc, but reset those as shown in 
`emerge info` below to reproduce. Remerging now with CCACHE disabled.

I refuse to believe the problem might be bad memory, as I'm a stubborn 
bugger & this machine has been up & running for some weeks, compiling 
everything else with no problems.

Thanks for any suggestions,
Stroller.

ti_ET.UTF-8... done
tig_ER.UTF-8... done
tl_PH.ISO-8859-1... done
tr_TR.UTF-8...LC_MONETARY: value of field `int_curr_symbol' does not 
correspond to a valid name in ISO 4217
 done
tr_TR.ISO-8859-9...LC_MONETARY: value of field `int_curr_symbol' does 
not correspond to a valid name in ISO 4217
 done
tt_RU.UTF-8... done
uk_UA.UTF-8... done
uk_UA.KOI8-U... done
ur_PK.UTF-8... done
uz_UZ.ISO-8859-1... done
[EMAIL PROTECTED] done
vi_VN.TCVN5712-1... done
vi_VN.UTF-8... done
wa_BE.ISO-8859-1... done
[EMAIL PROTECTED] done
wa_BE.UTF-8... done
xh_ZA.UTF-8... done
xh_ZA.ISO-8859-1... done
yi_US.CP1255... done
zh_CN.GB18030... done
zh_CN.GBK... done
zh_CN.UTF-8... done
zh_CN.GB2312... done
zh_HK.UTF-8... done
zh_HK.BIG5-HKSCS... done
zh_SG.GBK... done
zh_SG.GB2312... done
zh_TW.EUC-TW... done
zh_TW.UTF-8... done
zh_TW.BIG5... done
zu_ZA.UTF-8... done
zu_ZA.ISO-8859-1... done
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3/localedata'
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1/work/glibc-2.3.3'
 * Installing man pages and docs...
/usr/portage/sys-libs/glibc/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1.ebuild: line 1006: 
21980 Segmentation fault  env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" 
${x} >/dev/null

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 1008, Exitcode 139
!!! simple run test (ls) failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

$ emerge info
Portage 2.0.51.19 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.5, 
glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.10
Python:  dev-lang/python-2.3.4-r1 [2.3.4 (#1, Feb 22 2005, 
16:31:53)]
distcc 2.16 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) 
[disabled]ccache version 2.3 [enabled]
dev-lang/python: 2.3.4-r1
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.59-r6, 2.13
sys-devel/automake:  1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.5, 1.4_p6, 1.6.3, 1.9.4
sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.10-r4
virtual/os-headers:  2.4.22-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org 
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo";
MAKEOPTS="-j1"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 apm arts atm avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups curl emboss 
encode extensions font-server foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gtk2 imlib 
jpeg justify kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls 
oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl pica png python qt quicktime 
readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts 
type1-fonts xml2 xmms xv zlib"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CBUILD, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

> Thanks to all who replied. I have not purchased the Mac mini yet, but
> I am looking at it as a replacement for my dual boot laptop that runs
> Gentoo and Win XP. The only reason I still have Windows is to run Pro
> Tools and it's just never stable enough for me to depend on so I'm
> thinking I'd be fine with a Mac mini doing that job and just making
> the laptop Gentoo all the time.

Unfortunately Portage on Mac doesn't have many packages packages in it yet
(most stuff is masked) - its just too new. As a Mac (laptop) user myself I
would love to see it mature. Right now, the only alternative is Fink
(fink.sourceforge.net) but its based on Debian's APT package system. I
held off on installing either of them until Gentoo on Mac has more
packages (and also partly because Im sure Tiger will be out in a few
months).

> I'll have to write Daniel Ostrow and see how that has progressed since
> January. I suspect that he's made lots of progress.

Hopefully you'll report back to this list...? :-)


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RE: [gentoo-user] xorg emerge seg-fault -- NOT ram!

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Nebinger
> > CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
> 
> Why i386, could go i586, coudn't it?

Because you never change the CHOST after the initial gentoo build.  Besides,
the PIII is i686.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Lee Capps
On 09:17 Thu 24 Mar , A. Khattri wrote:
 
> Unfortunately Portage on Mac doesn't have many packages packages in it yet
> (most stuff is masked) - its just too new. As a Mac (laptop) user myself I
> would love to see it mature. Right now, the only alternative is Fink
> (fink.sourceforge.net) but its based on Debian's APT package system. I
> held off on installing either of them until Gentoo on Mac has more
> packages (and also partly because Im sure Tiger will be out in a few
> months).

I bought a Mac Mini myself and am enjoying it.  For the time being, I'm
using OS X and another ports/package managment system called
Darwinports: darwinports.opendarwin.org

You might find that more to your liking.  Though there aren't as many
packages there as for Fink, I've found most of what I need.

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Fwd: [gentoo-user] libpthread problems? [SOLVED?]

2005-03-24 Thread Ryan Sims
Without realizing it, I've been carrying on this conversation
off-list.  Well, after some very patient advice from Mr. Nebinger, I
solved(?) the problem by recompiling gcc and then recompiling glibc. 
I posted that to the forums and to the bug report, so hopefully
that'll help out other people with the problem.


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To: Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> No such luck; I do have the flag enabled.  Recompiled gcc, and so I'm
> working on a recompile of glibc ( I downgraded myself at some point).
>

Well, that seemed to do it.  The error is as mysteriously gone as it
appeared; I assume it's all a matter of keeping the toolchain healthy.
I *assume* that the gcc recompile did it, but I throw up my hands in
ignorance.

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RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Nebinger
> > Can you log in as the user at all?  Or are you
> > trying only from su?
> 
> only from su...

You should try to log in as the user specifically to ensure that the login
is not expired.

> don't know what this means. After boot
> I login as user or root. If, as user, I enter su, I
> get error, acct expired. Am I missing something, some
> gentoo-specific method here? When I ran slack or
> redhat I would su as user($), enter a password, and be
> presented with a root prompt(#) on the next line with
> all the privileges of root at my disposal.

Now I'm wondering what you're trying to do.  Are you trying to su to a user
or su to root?  If root, then it's more serious because root is never
supposed to expire.

> > Are there any messages in /var/log/messages (or your
> > equivalent) that might
> > apply?
> 
> almost positive, no.

Hmm, I get all kinds of messages for login failures; it's the only way to
handle auditing...


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RE: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4 b0rkage with segmentation fault

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Nebinger
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe"

You really should try to match your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS.  It's safer that
way.



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LaTeX VDash

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Markowski
Tim Janssen wrote on 03/23/05 08:11 ET:
I've tried \vert, | , \mid but they produce vertical bars that are too
tall. a \vDash is smaller than a vertical bar attached to an equal sign,
so I've decided to give up on \vdash and it's evil spawn and just build
my own symbols with |, \parallel, =, and \neq.
If you install the amssymb package and start your doc with 
"\usepackage{amssymb}" you'll have \vDash.  A google search on "amssymb 
latex" will bring up a bunch of pages you can double check against 
before installing.

Mike
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RE: [gentoo-user] The only things keeping me using Windows

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Turcotte
Pretty much the only reason I still have Windows on my computer
alongside Gentoo is because I play a lot of games like Counter Strike:
Source and Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. If anyone can help me out in
installing these on linux, I would be more than happy to delete my C:
drive  :)

Michael Turcotte
Information Systems
City of North Bay
200 McIntyre St. E
PO Box 360
North Bay, Ontario
P1B 8H8
 
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http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca 

> -Original Message-
> From: John Drouhard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The only things keeping me using Windows
> 
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:51:48 +1300
> Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > he only software keeping me using Windows is:
> >
> > DreamWeaver   -   I just love its ease of use and power.
> >
> 
> NVU, bluefish, quanta, screem
> 
> > All the stuff from www.popcap.com as I love fun, quirky little
games.
> > Yes I guess I could play the flash versions of the games - is there
> > any way these can be 'downloaded' so I don't have to be on the 'Net
to
> > play them? But I'd prefer Linux equivalents (I know, not much chance
> > there!)
> >
> 
> emerge gweled
> 
> (bejeweled clone. quite good, but has no sound)
> 
> > So if anyone can give me any pointers to software for Gentoo that
> > will let me get rid of Windows and just use Linux then I'd
appreciate
> > it.
> >
> > I should note that because of issues in the past I'm not keen on
> > anything not in the stable branch of Gentoo. :-) (But I'm prepared
to
> > be told that I have nothing to worry about should I try again)
> >
> 
> I've got no problems here, running on a completely ~x86 system :-)
> 
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jamie
> 
> 
> John
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Re: [gentoo-user] XEN and the ebuilds in bugzilla

2005-03-24 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
Hmm.. Okay.. if that's really the case.. then I may look into it. The
problem here is that. I only have 1 laptop and I don't expecially feel
like trashing it incase stuffs fails.
this would be a reasonably good solution then.
hint.  use lvm to build the disk images use for your DomU images.   it 
makes management of your storage *much* easier
>
I'm not sure what you mean.. but I think I'll find out and I'll thank
you for your guidance later :-)
OK, here is a practical example.  I have 2 80 gb disks setup as raid 1. 
 instead of partitioning the raid image into 10 or 15 different 
partitions at the very start, I use lvm as a way of only creating 
partitions that I need, organizing those partitions, and gain the 
ability to resize or move if needed.

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[gentoo-user] nvidia proprietary + pci-x

2005-03-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
Has anyone had any luck with the nvidia module and pci-x cards?  Does it
"just work"?  Cause mine ain't workin!

vanilla kernel 2.6.11.4
nvidia-kernel 1.0.7167-r1 (the only ~x86 on an otherwise x86 system,
because 6629-r1 won't work with 2.6.11)
nvidia geforce 6200 pci-x (by PALiT - I never heard of them either :)

I get this from the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xC000
(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xD800
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

lspci:

:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown
device 014f (rev a2)

lspci -n:

:01:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:014f (rev a2)

any ideas?

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[solved] Re: [gentoo-user] g++ missing in action

2005-03-24 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
# md5sum /usr/bin/g++ /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/c++
0f022099a20d9cd0dbeec018b1f1ba94  /usr/bin/g++
0f022099a20d9cd0dbeec018b1f1ba94  /usr/bin/gcc
0f022099a20d9cd0dbeec018b1f1ba94  /usr/bin/c++
so if you have one of them say gcc:
cp /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/g++
cp /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/c++

analyzer bin # c++
gcc-config error: Could not run/locate "c++"
analyzer bin #
obviously, I'm missing something else about this.
---eric
backed down to 3.3.4 and all worked.  when update reinstalled 3.3.5, 
everything still worked.  There must have been something broken in the 
upgrade between the version of six months ago and 3.3.5.

yet another reason for incremental upgrades on a very regular basis.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Autologin - What's the Gentoo Way?

2005-03-24 Thread James
Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:

>   I'm making a Freevo box based on Gentoo and currently 
> everything's peachy except that since I start Freevo from "local"
> it's being started and running as root. Which is BAD.

Yes, this is bad, but fixable. Have you made the user shell and 
groups permissions? 
Check your boot and default setting with: rc-update show

> I want to know what are the alternative in getting a user to 
login
> automatically and start the freevo process.

Well, is this like a kiosk or do you want a functional desktop, 
for users to exploit the network?
Add a few extra steps to your thoughts and share the details with us.


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Re: [gentoo-user] The only things keeping me using Windows

2005-03-24 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:01:09AM -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote:
> Pretty much the only reason I still have Windows on my computer
> alongside Gentoo is because I play a lot of games like Counter Strike:
> Source and Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield. If anyone can help me out in
> installing these on linux, I would be more than happy to delete my C:
> drive  :)

TransGaming claim that cedega (http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php),
for which there is even an ebuild, can help you with Counter Strike
and a whole bunch of other games. Raven Shield does not seem to be one
of them, though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia proprietary + pci-x

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 24 March 2005 14:53, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck with the nvidia module and pci-x cards?  Does it
> "just work"?  Cause mine ain't workin!
>
> vanilla kernel 2.6.11.4
> nvidia-kernel 1.0.7167-r1 (the only ~x86 on an otherwise x86 system,
> because 6629-r1 won't work with 2.6.11)
> nvidia geforce 6200 pci-x (by PALiT - I never heard of them either :):)

You mean PCI-e?
PCI-X is basically a faster PCI, normally 64bit rather than 32bit.
PCI-e is a different beast entirely.

Yes, the nvidia drivers work just fine with PCI-e.
I'm on 2.6.10 with a 6600 PCI-e, running 6629-r1.
My laptop has an FX Go 5200, on 2.6.11 using 6629-r4.

Try loading the module manually *before* starting X.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia proprietary + pci-x

2005-03-24 Thread Edward A Mihalow Jr
Iain Buchanan wrote:
Has anyone had any luck with the nvidia module and pci-x cards?  Does it
"just work"?  Cause mine ain't workin!
vanilla kernel 2.6.11.4
nvidia-kernel 1.0.7167-r1 (the only ~x86 on an otherwise x86 system,
because 6629-r1 won't work with 2.6.11)
nvidia geforce 6200 pci-x (by PALiT - I never heard of them either :)
I get this from the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xC000
(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xD800
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
lspci:
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown
device 014f (rev a2)
lspci -n:
:01:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:014f (rev a2)
any ideas?
many thanks!
Do you have pci-x enabled in the kernel?
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Re: [gentoo-user] apache-1.3.33 with mod_perl and mod_php

2005-03-24 Thread Kashani
Felipe de Jesús Molina Bravo wrote:
How can install apache-1.3.33 with support for mod_perl and mod_php?
My first solution is with variable USE="perl php"
is correct?
no, apache 1.3 only has two use variables, ssl and pam.
emerge apache mod_php mod_perl
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RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread maxim wexler
> 
> Now I'm wondering what you're trying to do.  Are you
> trying to su to a user

??? in user -> root, like I said!! If I'm
already root where on earth could I su to? or why?




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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia proprietary + pci-x

2005-03-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 15:14 +, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 14:53, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > Has anyone had any luck with the nvidia module and pci-x cards?  Does it
> > "just work"?  Cause mine ain't workin!
> >
> > vanilla kernel 2.6.11.4
> > nvidia-kernel 1.0.7167-r1 (the only ~x86 on an otherwise x86 system,
> > because 6629-r1 won't work with 2.6.11)
> > nvidia geforce 6200 pci-x (by PALiT - I never heard of them either :):)
> 
> You mean PCI-e?

probably!  whatever the non-agp new pci style video card slot is!!

> Try loading the module manually *before* starting X.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia proprietary + pci-x

2005-03-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 09:21 -0600, Edward A Mihalow Jr wrote:
> Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > Has anyone had any luck with the nvidia module and pci-x cards?  Does it
> > "just work"?  Cause mine ain't workin!
> > 
> Do you have pci-x enabled in the kernel?

yes!, and it works with the normal vesa driver.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 issues, Xorg

2005-03-24 Thread Rob
evgeny oleynik wrote:
On [Tue, 22.03.2005 19:20] or thereabouts, Rob wrote:

It looks like something strange is going on.  I tried emerging nvidia-kernel and 
nvidia-glx, and the kernel won' t compile.  I've attached the debug file.
Try nvidia-kernel-1.0.7167-r1 

Thank you!  That worked.
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[gentoo-user] printcap permission problem

2005-03-24 Thread Rob
I want to use LprNG, but every time lpd goes to start up I get error 
messages about printcap having the wrong permissions.  What are the 
right permissions?  I haven't been able to find them thru trial and 
error.  So no printing here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 07:27:06AM -0800, maxim wexler wrote:
> > 
> > Now I'm wondering what you're trying to do.  Are you
> > trying to su to a user
> 
> ??? in user -> root, like I said!! If I'm
> already root where on earth could I su to? or why?

It is not uncommon to have users with an unknown/unset password - on
purpose. postgres is a common example. The most convenient way to work
as one of those users is to log in as root and then, e.g., 'su -
postgres'. Which doesn't solve your problem, but answers the question
at hand.

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[gentoo-user] /dev/sound/dsp doesn't work

2005-03-24 Thread Rob
I am trying to use Alsa on a 2.6 kernel with udev.  But all of my 
programs complain that there is no dsp device.  Yet if I cd to 
/dev/sound it is there, and the symlink from /dev/dsp also exists.  I am 
confused.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Submitting an ebuild

2005-03-24 Thread James
Bill Six  yahoo.com> writes:

>  I just built an ebuild for wx4j (http://www.wx4j.org).
>  I have never made one before.  How do I submit it
> into the portage tree?

Cool beans... Was it difficult? Would you do another more
difficult package? 

I've thought about creating the ebuild for JFFNMS, but
I think the intricacies of database-php are not my
area of expertise(not even close).



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Re: [gentoo-user] PHP and PAM

2005-03-24 Thread Craig Duncan
Tommy Young wrote:
Which PAM PHP module is enabled by have the PAM use flag for PHP 
enabled? And how does one use it? (Are there any examples of its use?)
Thanks,
Tommy
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None. PHP source does not have support for a PAM module. You may want to 
add this yourself by patching PHP, see the following sites for details:

ftp://ftp.netexpress.net/pub/pam/
http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~ccunning/pam_auth/
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RE: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Nebinger
> > Now I'm wondering what you're trying to do.  Are you
> > trying to su to a user
> 
> ??? in user -> root, like I said!! If I'm
> already root where on earth could I su to? or why?

Su is just that - switch user.  I do it frequently from root to another
user, i.e. I want to test some changes that I made as root and want to see
what effect it has at a specific user/group level.

But that's neither here nor there.  I guess that you're saying when you do:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ su

with no user, that's when you're getting the expired message, right?

Su has a couple of components that could possibly be interfering with the
process.  The first is pam; the file in /etc/pam.d/su has some doco that
plays a part and also speaks of other files that could also have some
effect.  You might want to check into those and ensure that the settings are
valid for what you are trying to do.



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[gentoo-user] Shutting down a Live CD

2005-03-24 Thread Juergen Fiedler
I created a Live CD based on the instructions at
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=244837&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc
a while ago. Mostly, it works just fine; the only problem that I still
have is during system halt: When it comes to unmounting file systems,
I get a large variety of error messages indicating that /etc/mtab and
several lock files could not be written. I then get a request to enter
the root password or to press Ctrl-D to resume the boot process (all
quoted from memory, since I can't look at the error messages and type
my email at the same time). If I press Ctrl-D, the system does in fact
reboot. If I leave it alone, the computer will shut down after a few
more seconds.

Granted, this is a cosmetic issue more than anything, since I am only
dealing with readonly file systems that will not be damaged if they
aren't unmounted properly, but if anyone could give me any input on
how to avoid those error messages, I would greatly appreciate it.

Oh, one more thing: I am using baselayout-1.11.10-r1

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: Please Help

2005-03-24 Thread radu

Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 6:31:34 PM, you wrote:

HWH> Hi,

HWH> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:04:42 +0200
HWH> radu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>  /sbin/runscript.sh:line 532: 26182 Aborted  /usr/sbin/squid/ -z -F  
>> 2>/dev/null
>>  *Error initializing: /var/cache/squid

HWH> Does this directory exist and is it writeable for the user squid runs
as? BTW, that "2>>/dev/null" is eating the stderr so squid's own error
HWH> message isn't displayed but send into nowhere. Try starting squid
HWH> manually and watch for the error message (without that 2>/dev/null).

HWH> An other way to find it out is to emerge strace if you haven't yet and
HWH> then run

HWH> strace -f /etc/init.d/squid start

HWH> that "-f" makes strace following all forks.

HWH> HWH
HWH> --
HWH> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

I find the solution: in file /etc/squid/squid.conf need to set
visible_hostname none

But why??



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LaTeX VDash

2005-03-24 Thread Tim Janssen
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Mike Markowski wrote:
If you install the amssymb package and start your doc with 
"\usepackage{amssymb}" you'll have \vDash.  A google search on "amssymb 
latex" will bring up a bunch of pages you can double check against before 
installing.
The symbol I'm missing is a \VDash Which is two vertical bars and an 
equals. The amssymb package includes \nvdash, \nVdash, \nvDash, and 
\nVDash for the negated forms, but only \vdash, \Vdash, and \vDash for 
the non-negated forms. For some reason there is no \VDash.

I built a \VDash with \parallel and = but it's slightly bigger than the 
symbols in amssymb, so (being the picky bastard that I am) I went and 
wrote macros for my own set of [vV]Dashes (using |, \parallel, =, and \neq 
so that they'll all be the same size.

Can anyone tell me why there is \nVDash but no \VDash??? It seems very 
stupid to me.

Tim
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Re: [gentoo-user] one more su problem

2005-03-24 Thread Stanislaw Jesmanowicz
Did you add the user to group weel ?
That fix the 'su' poblem for me.
in /etc/group:
wheel:x:10:root,
Dave Nebinger wrote:
Now I'm wondering what you're trying to do.  Are you
trying to su to a user
 

??? in user -> root, like I said!! If I'm
already root where on earth could I su to? or why?
   

Su is just that - switch user.  I do it frequently from root to another
user, i.e. I want to test some changes that I made as root and want to see
what effect it has at a specific user/group level.
But that's neither here nor there.  I guess that you're saying when you do:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ su
with no user, that's when you're getting the expired message, right?
Su has a couple of components that could possibly be interfering with the
process.  The first is pam; the file in /etc/pam.d/su has some doco that
plays a part and also speaks of other files that could also have some
effect.  You might want to check into those and ensure that the settings are
valid for what you are trying to do.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LaTeX VDash

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Markowski
Tim Janssen wrote on 03/24/05 11:02 ET:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Mike Markowski wrote:
If you install the amssymb package and start your doc with 
"\usepackage{amssymb}" you'll have \vDash.  A google search on 
"amssymb latex" will bring up a bunch of pages you can double check 
against before installing.

The symbol I'm missing is a \VDash Which is two vertical bars and an 
equals. The amssymb package includes \nvdash, \nVdash, \nvDash, and 
\nVDash for the negated forms, but only \vdash, \Vdash, and \vDash for 
the non-negated forms. For some reason there is no \VDash.

I built a \VDash with \parallel and = but it's slightly bigger than the 
symbols in amssymb, so (being the picky bastard that I am) I went and 
wrote macros for my own set of [vV]Dashes (using |, \parallel, =, and 
\neq so that they'll all be the same size.

Can anyone tell me why there is \nVDash but no \VDash??? It seems very 
stupid to me.
Sorry I misread your original problem, and you're right - that's 
strange, probably an oversight.  If you're solution doesn't make you 
happy and you're feeling adventurous (or desperate) you might peek at 
the source for nVDash and tweek it to get rid of the slash.  I've done 
similar things before, and remember the hardest part was finding what I 
needed.  Changing it wasn't bad.  But you might direct your question to 
a TeX list, too, and will probably get just the solution you need in 
short order.  Good luck!  I'll email direct if I find anything.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LaTeX VDash

2005-03-24 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le jeudi 24 mars 2005 à 11:02 -0500, Tim Janssen a écrit :

> The symbol I'm missing is a \VDash Which 

Looking into the comprehentive LaTeX symbol list
( http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf ),
I found \VDash in the mathabx package

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sound/dsp doesn't work

2005-03-24 Thread Tamas Sarga
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Rob wrote:

>
> I am trying to use Alsa on a 2.6 kernel with udev.  But all of my
> programs complain that there is no dsp device.  Yet if I cd to
> /dev/sound it is there, and the symlink from /dev/dsp also exists.  I am
> confused.
>
> Rob.
>

Hi,

What are the permissions of the dsp file?

Cheers,
Tamas Sarga Sárga Tamás
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Re: [gentoo-user] Submitting an ebuild

2005-03-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:30:58 -0800 (PST) Bill Six
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I just built an ebuild for wx4j (http://www.wx4j.org).
|  I have never made one before.  How do I submit it
| into the portage tree?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml

If it's your first, don't be surprised if you're asked to change various
things to fit in with policy and style. It's pretty rare for someone to
write a totally correct ebuild the first time around :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 9686 vs. Pentium4 mcpu/march

2005-03-24 Thread Rodolphe Rocca

>> P.S.:  Also, is there difference between using the mcpu vs. march flag?
> 
> don't remember but man gcc /march explain this

Hi,

-mcpu is deprecated in 3.4.x, you would use -mtune instead.
-mtune tries not to break the compatibility with processors of the same
familly
-march will try to use the whole ABI of the processor, therefore
compatibility can be broken

If everything you compile is used on your computer, I would advice to
use -march for maximum performance.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How big does the swap should be?

2005-03-24 Thread Rodolphe Rocca
Wang Penghui wrote:
> Hello:
> 
>   I want to install gentoo on a pc box as daily use and test bed. And the
> follow is its hardwares:
> 
> CPU: Intel C4 1.7G
> Mem: 1G
> HardDisk: 40G
> 
> I wandor know how big the swap partition should be?

I've always been told to use (2-2,5)*RAM. But in your case I guess 1G is
widely sufficient.

> 
> And how to design the other partitions?

Partition design should be done keeping in mind the purpose of this
operation : separating data types to ease maintenance.
The separation is done regarding how often files are written on the
partitions (the more write operations occur, highest is the risk to
corrupt data).

/boot (100M): written once a year with kernel 2.4, once a week with 2.6
/ (10G): binaries etc, rarely written
/tmp (1G): always written
/var (2G): between /tmp and /
swap (1G)
/home (25G): to keep your own data independent from the system

Notice that if you want to compile Sun's jdk you will need at least 3G
in /var.

> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Wang

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[gentoo-user] Re: Digest Summary Header?

2005-03-24 Thread Stuart Maxwell
Charles Marcus  Media-Brokers.com> writes:

> 
> What happened to the Digest Summary Headers for the -user and -dev list 
> digests??
> 

In fact, what happened to the list?  I stopped getting the digest
at all for a while. Now that it's back, I get some messages that
I can see with full headers and no digest summary, and some won't
display at all at Gmail; I just get a blank message.  This is a
serious usability issue for me as I can barely follow
conversations now.  I have to search through a bunch of "junk"
text to find the subject heading.  I've taken to reading this at
Gmane... which is nice, but I'd really like my old list
functionality back.  Is there a list owner listening who can
help?

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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Andrey Larin
On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:21, Colin wrote:
> bfjonas wrote:
> > James wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I can see directories for this newest installation CD,
> >> on the mirrors, but,  I have not been able to download it?
> >> Any details or download dates been released?
> >>
> >> James
> >
> > Here is the last update from the Gentoo Store (http://store.gentoo.org/)
> >
> > 18 Mar 2005: 2005.0 FOR x86 IS HERE! The Store will begin shipping x86
> > pre-orders today. AMD64 and PowerPC should follow. Thank you very much
> > for your patience. While we will begin shipping 2005.0 for x86 today,
> > 2005.0 will not be released for download on Gentoo mirrors for at
> > least a week.
>
> I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Woo!"  Is there a list of the
> major changes from the previous version?  I'm downloading it anyway, but
> I need something to read while I download two CD's worth of Gentoo over
> 56k... :-)

mad man :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sound/dsp doesn't work

2005-03-24 Thread Bradley Krumme
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:44:57 +0100 (CET), Tamas Sarga
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Rob wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am trying to use Alsa on a 2.6 kernel with udev.  But all of my
> > programs complain that there is no dsp device.  Yet if I cd to
> > /dev/sound it is there, and the symlink from /dev/dsp also exists.  I am
> > confused.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What are the permissions of the dsp file?
> 
> Cheers,
> Tamas Sarga Sárga Tamás
> --
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> A box of beer contains 24 bottles.  Egy tálcán 24 üveg sör van.
> I don't believe in coincidence. Nem hiszek a véletlen egybeesésekben.
> 
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> 
> 


Is your user in the 'audio' group?  I had the same problem with audio
applications in Gnome on my laptop until I realized that I needed to
add my user to the 'audio' group.  Once I did that, I could access
/dev/sound/dsp

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[gentoo-user] Reiserfs 3.6 vs 4

2005-03-24 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Hi to all.

Very recently I have dug into reiserfs 4 (using linux-2.6.11) on a test
machine I have at work. The whole goal was to see the benifits of
version 4 as compared to 3.6 (speed and reliability) which I have heard
all about the last few months.

Now I don't pretend to be an expert on reiserfs (even though I have used
it very successfully for probably something going on 2 years now),
however I was not impressed by it at all to tell the truth.

On the namesys site they have a whole page dedicated to benchmarks,
which of course I have read, but from the results I have gotten I cannot
think of any sane reason why someone would want to use reiserfs4 over 3.6.

The write speeds of version 4 are moderate (single stream) .. and very
good when looking at more than one stream at once, but read/delete
speeds utterly and truly suck (from what I have found [link below for my
review]). This brings me back to here to ask those of you who are using
it to share their views and experiences.

Maybe I am doing something wrong, maybe not. The first thing that I
noticed after creating the reiserfs4 partition was it's size 188KB.
Is this right? Reiserfs 3.6 has an initial size of 33MB's. I know what
this is (journal), but is it correct that reiserfs4's is initially so
small, or is something really mucked up here (explaining the very bad
results)?

I posted my findings on my website if you are interested to compare to.
The machine I used is however a low-end machine (500MHz) with an IDE
drive, as it was the only machine I could risk for the tests (in case
the machine blew up, immigrated, or just vanished ;-))

So, what are your experiences / views?

Oh yes, the link to my "review" =>
http://axljab.homelinux.org/Reiserfs_3.6_vs_4.0

Greetings
Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:21, Colin wrote:
> I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Woo!"  Is there a list of the
> major changes from the previous version?  I'm downloading it anyway, but
> I need something to read while I download two CD's worth of Gentoo over
> 56k... :-):-)

You do realise that the release numbers *only* refer to the installation 
media?
Outside of the CD ISOs, they mean little more than squat.

Sync often, update your profile, and you're upto date.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down a Live CD

2005-03-24 Thread James
Juergen Fiedler  fiedlerfamily.net> writes:

> 
> I created a Live CD based on the instructions at
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=244837&start=0&postdays=
0&postorder=asc
> a while ago. Mostly, it works just fine; the only problem that I still
> have is during system halt: When it comes to unmounting file systems,
> I get a large variety of error messages indicating that /etc/mtab and
> several lock files could not be written. I then get a request to enter
> the root password or to press Ctrl-D to resume the boot process (all
> quoted from memory, since I can't look at the error messages and type
> my email at the same time). If I press Ctrl-D, the system does in fact
> reboot. If I leave it alone, the computer will shut down after a few
> more seconds.

Well, I had similar troubles that were reconciled by multiple applications of
emerge --resume
emerge --resume --skipfirst
emerge sync (daily at most)
emerge -uDp world
onfig

and building new kernels with the correct selections and configurations.

YMMV

James


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Colin
Mike Williams wrote:
On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:21, Colin wrote:
 

I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Woo!"  Is there a list of the
major changes from the previous version?  I'm downloading it anyway, but
I need something to read while I download two CD's worth of Gentoo over
56k... :-):-)
   

You do realise that the release numbers *only* refer to the installation 
media?
Outside of the CD ISOs, they mean little more than squat.

Sync often, update your profile, and you're upto date.
I couldn't get the 2004.3 LiveCD to boot on any of my systems (x86 
doesn't like my drive controller and PPC has no SCSI support), so 
downloading 2005.0 and trying that would work, so I do need the ISO's.  
I might just bite the bullet and buy the LiveCD's and packages, too... 
emerge --sync over dial-up would take forever.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutting down a Live CD

2005-03-24 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:35:13PM +, James wrote:
> Juergen Fiedler  fiedlerfamily.net> writes:
> 
> > 
> > I created a Live CD based on the instructions at
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=244837&start=0&postdays=
> 0&postorder=asc
> > a while ago. Mostly, it works just fine; the only problem that I still
> > have is during system halt: When it comes to unmounting file systems,
> > I get a large variety of error messages indicating that /etc/mtab and
> > several lock files could not be written. I then get a request to enter
> > the root password or to press Ctrl-D to resume the boot process (all
> > quoted from memory, since I can't look at the error messages and type
> > my email at the same time). If I press Ctrl-D, the system does in fact
> > reboot. If I leave it alone, the computer will shut down after a few
> > more seconds.
> 
> Well, I had similar troubles that were reconciled by multiple applications of
> emerge --resume
> emerge --resume --skipfirst
> emerge sync (daily at most)
> emerge -uDp world
> onfig
> 
> and building new kernels with the correct selections and configurations.

The resume really shouldn't be necessary for me, I hope. The merges
typically go smoothly. But you're basically saying that if I keep
updating for long enough, the problem will go away?

I noticed that there are some provisions in place in /etc/init.halt.sh
to halt a system that was booted from a Live CD cleanly. Yes... maybe
a little patience is all I need. Occasinally, I wonder whether it was
smart to install an unstable baselayout - but I was given to
understand that it was needed for the proper operation of the unstable
linux-wlan-ng - and I really did need that one. 

> YMMV
> 
> James
 
Time will tell :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stupid Gensplash question

2005-03-24 Thread Chris Hoover
Kathy Wills wrote:
Which version of splashutils are you using?
I'm using splashutils-0.9.1, I have an nVidia Geforce FX 5200, using 
kernel 2.6.11-r4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Jonas

> >
> I couldn't get the 2004.3 LiveCD to boot on any of my systems (x86
> doesn't like my drive controller and PPC has no SCSI support), so
> downloading 2005.0 and trying that would work, so I do need the ISO's.
> I might just bite the bullet and buy the LiveCD's and packages, too...
> emerge --sync over dial-up would take forever.
> 
$20 plus shipping may be a better investment than many, many hours of
your time. Especially considering how they are packaging this release:

>From http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=49

"For a faster install and less dependence on an Internet connection,
choose one of the 2-CD builds. The second CD includes pre-built binary
packages to get you up and running quickly. The "i686" set will run on
any system that is Pentium 2-compatible, which includes most systems
currently being used. The "Pentium III" set will run on any machine
that is Pentium 3- compatible. If you have a Pentium 4 or modern
Celeron CPU, then choose the "Pentium 4" build."

Brian
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[gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread PK
Hi all
any help would be welcome as I cant find anything related on the forums
I did a emerge sync then emerge -uD world
it wants 160 new packages
so I let it run
it gets to gettext and the following happens during compile
Any ideas on how to fix this?
Many thanks in advance
Paul
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 
-funroll-loops -o .libs/msginit msginit-msginit.o msginit-plural-count.o 
msginit-localealias.o ../intl/.libs/localename.o  ./.libs/libgettextsrc.so
creating msginit
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 
-funroll-loops -o .libs/msguniq msguniq-msguniq.o  ./.libs/libgettextsrc.so
creating msguniq
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/src'
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/src'
Making all in po
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/po'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/po'
Making all in projects
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/projects'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/projects'
Making all in misc
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/misc'
WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-)
if test "xemacs" != no; then \
  set x; \
  list='po-mode.el po-compat.el'; for p in $list; do \
if test -f "$p"; then d=; else d="./"; fi; \
set x "$@" "$d$p"; shift; \
  done; \
  shift; \
  EMACS="xemacs" /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \
else : ; fi
xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [elc-stamp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools/misc'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.14.2/work/gettext-0.14.2/gettext-tools'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gettext-0.14.2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 63, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Thu Mar-24-2005 at 03:38:13 AM +, LostSon said:
[...]
>  Ok still failing with this error
> 
>   * Installing man pages and docs...
> /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault  env 
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null

I would bet money that you have some faulty hardware. Compiling packages
puts a strain on the hardware which brings these problems to your
attention in the form of random reboots and segfaults etc.

Run memtest (on the Gentoo LiveCDs) and see if the memory is ok. Check
for dust caked to the fan/heatsink on your processor.

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread Sean Cook
Actually I am running into this right now... I think that it is related
to previous update I am trying:

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4

and rerunning.  I will let you know how it goes... 

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:36 -0800, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> * On Thu Mar-24-2005 at 03:38:13 AM +, LostSon said:
> [...]
> >  Ok still failing with this error
> > 
> >   * Installing man pages and docs...
> > /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault  
> > env 
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null
> 
> I would bet money that you have some faulty hardware. Compiling packages
> puts a strain on the hardware which brings these problems to your
> attention in the form of random reboots and segfaults etc.
> 
> Run memtest (on the Gentoo LiveCDs) and see if the memory is ok. Check
> for dust caked to the fan/heatsink on your processor.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs 3.6 vs 4

2005-03-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:57:45 +0100 Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| So, what are your experiences / views?

reiser4 is unsupported to the extent that if you use it, you shouldn't
submit *any* bugs that occur on that box via our bugzilla. If you use
it, you *will* find bugs, and you will likely experience data loss.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cracklib php???

2005-03-24 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
On 16:06 Wed 23 Mar , Walter Willis wrote:
> /usr/include/packer.h:47: error: storage size of `header' isn't known
> make: *** [ext/crack/crack.lo] Error 1
> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> 
> !!! ERROR: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.10-r1 failed.
> !!! Function php-sapi_src_compile, Line 544, Exitcode 2
> !!! compile problem
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
> message.
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i had same trouble... It's already reported as a bug in cracklib (do some
search at forums). I've solved it by downgrading cracklib.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Stupid Gensplash question

2005-03-24 Thread Kathy Wills
Chris Hoover wrote:
Kathy Wills wrote:
Which version of splashutils are you using?
I'm using splashutils-0.9.1, I have an nVidia Geforce FX 5200, using 
kernel 2.6.11-r4.


With this version, you need to make a copy of /usr/share/TTF/luxisri.ttf 
in /etc/splash to make this work. I had to change what I had in my 
grub.conf too. Here is what I had to change it to on my system:

kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
splash=silent,fadein,tty:8,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /boot/fbsplash-emergence-1024x768

This works for me. You may be using something besides vmlinuz on yours. 
Set it accordingly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread Sean Cook
nope that didn't work either.  :(  

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:36 -0800, Sami Samhuri wrote:
> * On Thu Mar-24-2005 at 03:38:13 AM +, LostSon said:
> [...]
> >  Ok still failing with this error
> > 
> >   * Installing man pages and docs...
> > /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault  
> > env 
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null
> 
> I would bet money that you have some faulty hardware. Compiling packages
> puts a strain on the hardware which brings these problems to your
> attention in the form of random reboots and segfaults etc.
> 
> Run memtest (on the Gentoo LiveCDs) and see if the memory is ok. Check
> for dust caked to the fan/heatsink on your processor.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread Jason Cooper
PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip]
>   EMACS="xemacs" /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \
> else : ; fi
> xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
> shared object file: No such file or directory

re-merge xemacs.  xorg-x11 recently moved some things (libXm is the big
PIA).  Projects that contained absolute paths to libraries (eg xemacs,
xlock, and xpdf) need to be recompiled to get the new path.

Yes, this is a bug is xemacs.  Absolute paths are devilry. :)

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:22 -0800, Brian Jonas wrote:
> > 
> $20 plus shipping may be a better investment than many, many hours of
> your time. Especially considering how they are packaging this release:
> 
> From http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=49
> 
> "For a faster install and less dependence on an Internet connection,
> choose one of the 2-CD builds. The second CD includes pre-built binary
> packages to get you up and running quickly.


Whats so new about that? 



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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 24 March 2005 18:38, Colin wrote:
> >You do realise that the release numbers *only* refer to the installation
> >media?
> >Outside of the CD ISOs, they mean little more than squat.
> >
> >Sync often, update your profile, and you're upto date.
>
> I couldn't get the 2004.3 LiveCD to boot on any of my systems (x86
> doesn't like my drive controller and PPC has no SCSI support), so
> downloading 2005.0 and trying that would work, so I do need the ISO's.  
> I might just bite the bullet and buy the LiveCD's and packages, too...
> emerge --sync over dial-up would take forever.

Ahh, then you want new installation media...
I'll shut up :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 09:17 -0500, A. Khattri wrote:
> Unfortunately Portage on Mac doesn't have many packages packages in it
> yet
> (most stuff is masked) - its just too new. As a Mac (laptop) user
> myself I
> would love to see it mature.

are you talking about portage on top of MacOS X (ppc-macos)  or native
linux (ppc)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread William Kenworthy
Not quite, dont forget the profile symlink on a running system needs
changing to get the 2005.0 profile. Can effect things like changing
default gcc versions etc.

BillK

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 18:08 +, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:21, Colin wrote:
> > I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Woo!"  Is there a list of the
> > major changes from the previous version?  I'm downloading it anyway, but
> > I need something to read while I download two CD's worth of Gentoo over
> > 56k... :-):-)
> 
> You do realise that the release numbers *only* refer to the installation 
> media?
> Outside of the CD ISOs, they mean little more than squat.
> 
> Sync often, update your profile, and you're upto date.
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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread Stanislaw Jesmanowicz
I have the same error, the same line in /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh
And I am using gentoo on my Tecra laptop for some time already  ...
Sean Cook wrote:
nope that didn't work either.  :(  

On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 13:36 -0800, Sami Samhuri wrote:
 

* On Thu Mar-24-2005 at 03:38:13 AM +, LostSon said:
[...]
   

Ok still failing with this error
 * Installing man pages and docs...
/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault  env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null
 

I would bet money that you have some faulty hardware. Compiling packages
puts a strain on the hardware which brings these problems to your
attention in the form of random reboots and segfaults etc.
Run memtest (on the Gentoo LiveCDs) and see if the memory is ok. Check
for dust caked to the fan/heatsink on your processor.
   

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Colin wrote:

> I couldn't get the 2004.3 LiveCD to boot on any of my systems (x86
> doesn't like my drive controller and PPC has no SCSI support),

PPC LiveCD not available yet...


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Re: [gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread PK
Jason Cooper wrote:
PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip]
 EMACS="xemacs" /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \
else : ; fi
xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory

re-merge xemacs.  xorg-x11 recently moved some things (libXm is the big
PIA).  Projects that contained absolute paths to libraries (eg xemacs,
xlock, and xpdf) need to be recompiled to get the new path.
Yes, this is a bug is xemacs.  Absolute paths are devilry. :)
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I found the bug and tried to patch it by editing the ebuild
however its still spitting out the same message
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote:

> are you talking about portage on top of MacOS X (ppc-macos)  or native
> linux (ppc)?

I meant Portage on top of OS X yes.


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[gentoo-user] KDE 3.4 compiling freezes machine

2005-03-24 Thread Marc Woog
Hi,
I've been trying to compile KDE 3.4 using [1]. It worked for kde-libs 
but everytime kdepim starts to compile, my machine freezes completely 
during the run (I mean really dead). I couldn't find anything in a log 
file or give you more info what exactly causes this. Is this something 
known or am I the only one?

What can I do to downgrade again? Just emerge kde?
Thanks for any help!
Regards,
Marc
[1]
perseus root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.4.0
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/boost-1.32.0-r1
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.0
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kde-3.4.0
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo inside vmware - missing /dev/cdrom - udev system

2005-03-24 Thread Scott Storck
J. Patrick Campbell schrieb:
hello all
i've installed gentoo for a friend who doesn't want to dual boot, so
i installed it in vmware for her.
i followed the handbook except for the /dev part, i cheated and
made the system udev before the first boot.
system came up just fine, the virtual scsi works great
but when i go to mount the vmware-tools image, i can't find /dev/cd*
there is nothing in /dev/ that points me to a cdrom.
i've setup vmware to give the machine access to a physical drive, tried with
and without legacy emulation but it refuses to populate /dev/ with a
cdrom or cdrom0.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Patrick

 

Check to see if the cdrom drive is "connected" and/or "connected at 
startup".
If you choose, from the menu, install vmware tools, sometimes it sets up 
the image, but doesn't make the cdrom as connected.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:36:21 -0500 (EST), A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> > are you talking about portage on top of MacOS X (ppc-macos)  or native
> > linux (ppc)?
> 
> I meant Portage on top of OS X yes.

So that's a pretty cool idea to me anyway. What percentage of programs
in portage will work when compiled within OS X?

I suppose you probably have to manage things like your world file,
etc., more aggressively so that you don't start upgrading C compilers,
glibc's, etc.?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread Jason Cooper
PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> Jason Cooper wrote:
> >PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> >[snip]
> >
> >> EMACS="xemacs" /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \
> >>else : ; fi
> >>xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
> >>shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> >re-merge xemacs.  xorg-x11 recently moved some things (libXm is the big
> >PIA).  Projects that contained absolute paths to libraries (eg xemacs,
> >xlock, and xpdf) need to be recompiled to get the new path.
> >
> >Yes, this is a bug is xemacs.  Absolute paths are devilry. :)
>
> I found the bug and tried to patch it by editing the ebuild
> however its still spitting out the same message
> 
> any ideas?

What bug did you find?  You shouldn't need to edit the ebuild.  Simply
re-emerging xemacs should pick up the change in location for libXm.  

Unless one of the libraries xemacs uses is the real problem... but
first, lets see some details on the bug, and the ebuild edit. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:31:20 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| So that's a pretty cool idea to me anyway. What percentage of programs
| in portage will work when compiled within OS X?

Very few. Our OS X port is mismanaged, misimplemented and basically
doomed to failure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4 b0rkage with segmentation fault

2005-03-24 Thread Stroller
On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:01 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote:
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe"
You really should try to match your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS.  It's safer 
that
way.
Ooops thanks for pointing that out.
  $ grep FLAGS /etc/make.conf
  CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
  # If you set a CFLAGS above, then this line will set your default C++ 
flags to
  #CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

I had always believed that the last line above was not simply 
"commented out" but was also a comment to indicate that CXXFLAGS would 
default to CFLAGS, or you could set it here. Looks like I was mistaken.

In any case, setting CXXFLAGS correctly has made no difference. :(
A bit of searching suggested that dev-perl/Locale-gettext might be 
responsible for stuff associated with `env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)", so I just remerged that & am 
trying again glibc. Any other suggestions whilst I waitr to see if  
that worked would be very gratefully received, however.

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1

2005-03-24 Thread Stroller
I have a similar error, see my posting "sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4 b0rkage 
with segmentation fault", March 24, 2005 12:00:57 pm GMT.

I originally didn't notice the similarity with LostSon's problem, 
because his postings display funny on my Mac for some reason, but I 
consistently get a segmentation fault referring to `env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ` at a different line of emerging 
glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1.

Stroller.
On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:28 pm, Stanislaw Jesmanowicz wrote:
I have the same error, the same line in /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh
And I am using gentoo on my Tecra laptop for some time already  ...

* On Thu Mar-24-2005 at 03:38:13 AM +, LostSon said:
[...]
Ok still failing with this error
 * Installing man pages and docs...
/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1874: 32219 Segmentation fault 
 env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${D}/$(get_libdir)" ${x} >/dev/null
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Autologin - What's the Gentoo Way?

2005-03-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 14:55 +, James wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng  wdc.com> writes:
> 
> > I'm making a Freevo box based on Gentoo and currently 
> > everything's peachy except that since I start Freevo from "local"
> > it's being started and running as root. Which is BAD.
> 
> Yes, this is bad, but fixable. Have you made the user shell and 
> groups permissions? 
> Check your boot and default setting with: rc-update show

What exactly do you mean by this?? Do you mean making a new user "eg:
Freevo"?? 

I've not done that yet because I've not figured out how to make it
autologin.


> 
> > I want to know what are the alternative in getting a user to 
> login
> > automatically and start the freevo process.
> 
> Well, is this like a kiosk or do you want a functional desktop, 
> for users to exploit the network?
> Add a few extra steps to your thoughts and share the details with us.

It began as a kiosk, but now since I need to put a web browser in there,
it needs to have some form of functional desktop. (only the browser for
now actually)

Actually, I need to just get autologin to start and for user "freevo" to
start the freevo process and all should be OK.


> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: KDE 3.4 has no sound with USE='-arts'

2005-03-24 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Tom Wesley wrote:

> On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 04:25, Nick Rout wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:28:22 -0600
>>
>> Gabriel M. Bedding wrote:
>> > Tom Wesley wrote:
>> > > I've just installed KDE 3.4 from the monolithic ebuilds, using
>> > > USE='-arts' but
>> > > am not getting any sounds from KDE itself.  Window minimise, kopete
>> > > incoming message sounds etc are all silent.
>> >
>> > Arts is the sound server for KDE.  KDE sends all its sounds through
>> > Arts. If you don't have arts, then you don't have sound in KDE.
>> >
>> > Other applications that use ALSA / OSS directly will probably still
>> > work, but KDE applications should have no sound if arts is not
>> > installed and running.
>>
>> I don't believe thats necessarily true. You can turn off arts in kde and
>> run alsa or jack, so why shouldn't you be able to compile without arts
>> support.
>>
> 
> This is what I was attempting.  You can specify an "external player" for
> knotify, but it seems it just doesn't work.  My PC spent the night
> installing arts, then rebuilding everything with the arts USE flag and all
> is well now. :-)

I'm curious... which external players did you try it with?


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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: KDE 3.4 has no sound with USE='-arts'

2005-03-24 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Nick Rout wrote:

>> Other applications that use ALSA / OSS directly will probably still work,
>> but KDE applications should have no sound if arts is not installed and
>> running.
> 
> I don't believe thats necessarily true. You can turn off arts in kde and
> run alsa or jack, so why shouldn't you be able to compile without arts
> support.

You can --  You just won't have arts support.  By default, KDE applications
use the arts sound server to get the job done.  If you take away the sound
server, they cease to work.

On the other hand, aplay uses alsa directly, so it should work fine without
arts.

<= $.02

-Gabriel



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a MiniMac?

2005-03-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:12:26 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:

> AFAIK gentoo can also be used in another way: on top of MacOS X to
> provide a way to install extra software on to a Mac.
> 
> That is to say you would be running the MacOS kernel, not linux. 

Or you can do it the other way around and run Mac OSX on top of Gentoo,
with Mac-on-Linux.


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg emerge seg-fault -- NOT ram!

2005-03-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:57:30 -0500, Dave Nebinger wrote:

> > > CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
> > 
> > Why i386, could go i586, coudn't it?
> 
> Because you never change the CHOST after the initial gentoo build. 

You can, as long as you run fix_libtool.sh after changing it.

> Besides, the PIII is i686.

So, why i386 then?


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[gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-24 Thread Grant
A little while ago Neil turned me on to quickpkg.  It sounds like a
great way to protect yourself from the new package blues.  Is anyone
using it like that?  What would be the best way to assure that your
system always has a backup copy of your current version of a package
available before emerging a new one?  Are there any types of packages
or situations where this method of upgrade protection would fail?

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[gentoo-user] error on boot (pciehp.ko)

2005-03-24 Thread pat
Hi All,

While ago I've updated my kernel and from that time there's an error during
boot. There are not problems with system behavior but I want to fix it
(learning linux ;-) ).

The error is:
 * Coldplugging pci devices...
 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp
(/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp.ko): Operation not
permitted
 ... can't load module pciehp
 missing kernel or user mode driver pciehp

Thanks for help.

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[gentoo-user] ASUS K8V-X and audio...

2005-03-24 Thread Luigi Pinna
Hello!
I bought this new MB, that it is very similar to my old one (ASUS 
A7V600) and I installed a new Gentoo enviroment for the new CPU (the 
new one is a amd64).
The audio chipset is the same to the old one (VIA8237) but I don't see 
it the audio device.
In BIOS is enabled and I didn't find a jumper that can disable it.
This is the output of lspci:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] 
Host Bridge (rev 01)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge 
[K8T800 South]
:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
:00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller (rev 46)
:00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 
Video Capture (rev 11)
:00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio 
Capture (rev 11)
:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 
(rev 0a)
:00:0e.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game 
Port (rev 0a)
:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA 
RAID Controller (rev 80)
:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800 South]
:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 
[Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 
[Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 
[Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 
[Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)

I read that my chiipset works gut in athlon64, what I do wrong?
Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] CHOST setting for a pentium m

2005-03-24 Thread Marc Schlienger
Hi,

I'm installing Gentoo on my laptop which has a pentium m (dothan) processor 
2.0GHz. I have set CFLAGS="... -march=pentium3 ..." and I wonder if it would 
be better to use CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu" or CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"?
Thanks in advance.

Regards Marc
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[gentoo-user] Moving partitions

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Turcotte
Hello!

I would like to move a partition from one disk to the other, so I can make use 
of more space. What I have done is create a new partition on the other disk, 
and just copied all files over. Problem is, my htdocs folder is in this 
partition, and contain a lot of hidden .* files. How do I copy those over along 
with everything else? I don't use the copy command all that much, what do I add 
to "cp -gR"?

TIA,

Michael Turcotte
Information Systems
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[gentoo-user] ethtool fails on adaptec

2005-03-24 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

I have installed a Adaptec ANA-6944A/TX fast 4 port ethernet card (32-bit).
It works fine with the tulip dirver.
If i run ethtool on these ports i always get this error, never with my
other networdcards.

vpn_bxl init.d # ethtool eth3
Settings for eth3:
No data available

what coult this be?

TIA
Patrick
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[gentoo-user] xfmedia Segmentation fault

2005-03-24 Thread Grant
I just emerged xfmedia, but trying to start it I get this:

system4 ~ # xfmedia
** (xfmedia:8329): WARNING **: Failed to open a connection to the
D-BUS session bus.  Please ensure that the session bus is running. (0:
D-BUS error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Unable to determine the
address of the message bus)
Segmentation fault

My xorg is pretty out of date (6.8.0-r1), could that be the problem? 
There are no bugs filed for this.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:21:42 -0500, Colin wrote:

> I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Woo!"  Is there a list of the 
> major changes from the previous version?  I'm downloading it anyway, but
> I need something to read while I download two CD's worth of Gentoo over 
> 56k... :-)

2005.0 is only the version of the install CDs and the profile. Once you
have a running system, you only need to set your profile to 2005.0 and do

emerge sync
emerge world -uavD --newuse

to have a completely up to date system.

With Gentoo, reinstallation is only necessary i the case of serious
hardware/wetware failure.


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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-24 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:13 -0800, Grant wrote:
> A little while ago Neil
Who's Neil? :-D

>  turned me on to quickpkg.  It sounds like a
> great way to protect yourself from the new package blues.  

And you mean upgrades that didn't go smoothly??

> Is anyone
> using it like that?  What would be the best way to assure that your
> system always has a backup copy of your current version of a package
> available before emerging a new one?  

You can do this by always making a copy of the packages you emerge.

Use the "buildpkg" directive in your make.conf's 
FEATURE="buildpkg"

> Are there any types of packages
> or situations where this method of upgrade protection would fail?

Not that I know of. It's saved my hide a few times and not having to
wait 4 hours for xorg to rebuild is nice :-)

> - Grant
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[gentoo-user] Re: xfmedia Segmentation fault

2005-03-24 Thread Grant
> I just emerged xfmedia, but trying to start it I get this:
> 
> system4 ~ # xfmedia
> ** (xfmedia:8329): WARNING **: Failed to open a connection to the
> D-BUS session bus.  Please ensure that the session bus is running. (0:
> D-BUS error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Unable to determine the
> address of the message bus)
> Segmentation fault
> 
> My xorg is pretty out of date (6.8.0-r1), could that be the problem?
> There are no bugs filed for this.
> 
> - Grant

This isn't happening on 2.6.11 but was on 2.6.7.

- Grant
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