Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Yes, thanks. On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:58, you wrote: > On Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 06:55:11PM -0400 or thereabouts, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > Where do you find this cfg-update? > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 > > Hope this helps. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Gentoo.org forums, under Documentation, Tips, & Tricks. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 On Thursday 23 October 2003 6:55 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > Where do you find this cfg-update? > > Thanks. > > On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: > > > IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com > > > POV-Ray News & Resources http://Povray.co.uk > > > TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 > > > > Rick, > > This is one of the features (among others) of using the cfg-update with > > the xxdiff gui front-end to replace using etc-update. After you set it > > up, you just type "cfg-update -i" instead "of etc-update," and the xxdiff > > gui comes up with the original and the ._cfg file shown in right and > > left panes- then you open a "merged" pane and you can work in those very > > easily, with many options. > > > > Robert Crawford > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 06:55:11PM -0400 or thereabouts, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > Where do you find this cfg-update? > > Thanks. > > On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: > > > IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com > > > POV-Ray News & Resources http://Povray.co.uk > > > TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 > > > > Rick, > > This is one of the features (among others) of using the cfg-update with the > > xxdiff gui front-end to replace using etc-update. After you set it up, you > > just type "cfg-update -i" instead "of etc-update," and the xxdiff gui comes > > up with the original and the ._cfg file shown in right and left panes- > > then you open a "merged" pane and you can work in those very easily, with > > many options. > > > > Robert Crawford > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 Hope this helps. > -- Regards, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Don't Fear The Penguin." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Where do you find this cfg-update? Thanks. On Tuesday 21 October 2003 23:27, you wrote: > > IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced > > > > Rick > > > > Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com > > POV-Ray News & Resources http://Povray.co.uk > > TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 > > Rick, > This is one of the features (among others) of using the cfg-update with the > xxdiff gui front-end to replace using etc-update. After you set it up, you > just type "cfg-update -i" instead "of etc-update," and the xxdiff gui comes > up with the original and the ._cfg file shown in right and left panes- > then you open a "merged" pane and you can work in those very easily, with > many options. > > Robert Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:49 am, brett holcomb wrote: > Not that I'm aware of. I keep backups on another system > and on tape so I can recover. I assume you've seen some > of the suggestions in this thread about other programs > that might make updating easier. > > > >If accidentally updating a /etc/~config file, is there > >any record to trace it, i.e. any record showing config > >files updated. > > > >B.R. > >Stephen After getting burned one too many times I back up my main box every night. I also keep a manual backup of important config files in a directory on my home partition. I call it etc_backup. It contains the last 2 or 3 working configs of things that could really cause havoc if I screwed up with etc-update. I HAVE used it, but luckily, not for a while now. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Not that I'm aware of. I keep backups on another system and on tape so I can recover. I assume you've seen some of the suggestions in this thread about other programs that might make updating easier. One thing I do is run emerge sync and then emerge -uDp on system and world very frequently (daily on some machines). This helps keep the number of changes down which is where we get into trouble - with a large list of changes it's easy to miss one. On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:56:01 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Brett, Thanks for your advice. If accidentally updating a /etc/~config file, is there any record to trace it, i.e. any record showing config files updated. B.R. Stephen brett holcomb wrote: Yes - look at what etc-update displays. It gives options for updating all files automatically, selecting them one at a time or skipping them. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:29:56 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Hall Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Hi Brett, Thanks for your advice. If accidentally updating a /etc/~config file, is there any record to trace it, i.e. any record showing config files updated. B.R. Stephen brett holcomb wrote: Yes - look at what etc-update displays. It gives options for updating all files automatically, selecting them one at a time or skipping them. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:29:56 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Hall Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
> A more novice-friendly tool would probably benefit a lot of users. But > it should be as an additional option for updating files as well as > the current etc-update, not instead of it. Seeing as so many people are > keen for such a tool it shouldn't be too long before someone writes one. > Maybe the graphical program someone mentioned fits the bill already... > > Cheers > David > > BTW it may be helpful to read the last couple of paragraphs from Heschi > Kreinick's post in August for a brief overview of how the current > `problem' came to be: > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/42052/ > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Again, I urge people to check out the cfg-update script that opens the great full-featured xxdiff program as a replacement for etc-update. Really newbie friendly! Find it on the Gentoo forums under the Docs, tricks, tips forum.(post has great screen shots) Once set up, you just type cfg-update -i instead of etc-update after emerging if you need to. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 Robert Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
> > IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced > > Rick > > Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com > POV-Ray News & Resources http://Povray.co.uk > TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 Rick, This is one of the features (among others) of using the cfg-update with the xxdiff gui front-end to replace using etc-update. After you set it up, you just type "cfg-update -i" instead "of etc-update," and the xxdiff gui comes up with the original and the ._cfg file shown in right and left panes- then you open a "merged" pane and you can work in those very easily, with many options. Robert Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:14:46PM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Michael Rasile wrote: > >It's funny that you mention that. I'm not a newbie to Linux but I was > >to gentoo some months back when I did my first update and was told > >(nicely, of course! :-))to do an etc-update. Well, I never dreamed > >that /etc/fstab would be overwritten. Duh, this was my oversight, of > >course, I'm not blaming anyone. But I didn't catch it so when gentoo > >wouldn't boot, I thought the system had given up the ghost. I > >reinstalled gentoo. I believe I must have had a lot of free time back > >then. :-) Had I caught it, I could have simply corrected the > >/etc/fstab overwrite and things would have been fine. I didn't go > >back to Mandrake, however. :-))). It happened again, but the second > >time, I was more careful. I agree with what someone said earlier, is > >it really necessary to even offer to change /etc/fstab?? > > /etc/fstab is a config file just like anything else in /etc. etc-update of > dispatch-conf or any other tool you may choose to use to update your config > files had no way to know whether changing a certain file may render your > system unbootable. That is really irrelevant. If a single question, buried among dozens of others and in no way emphasized can prevent your system from booting if you answer it the wrong way, then it needs to be changed (or use -5 in etc-update, in which case you didn't even really answer that particular question). Failing to do so, whatever the technical reason, would be inexcusable in an awful lot of people's eyes. I'd be raising it as a banner of proof of my convictions if I caught Windows doing something like that (actually, I have, and I did -- blowing away my MBR without asking the first time I mistakenly tried to install Linux first and Windows second was pretty bad). - richard -- Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 15:39, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
> IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced
>
> Rick
You can do this with two small changes. First, add the --backup option
to mv_opts in /etc/etc-update.conf. Note: The default backup option will
create a single backup named filename~. If you do want to maintain
previous backups, you can use something like --backup=numbered. Take a
look at the man info page for other backup options.
The second change is to the etc-update program itself. Unfortunately,
etc-update's current method using when using '-5' is to reset mv_opts to
"". To add backups when using the '-5' option open /usr/sbin/etc-update
in an editor and locate the lines:
if (( ${input} == -5 )); then
input=-3
export mv_opts=""
fi
Change the export line to: export mv_opts="--backup". Or
--backup=numbered etc.
Good Luck,
Doug
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
* Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-21 13:18]: > Someone commented about *not* replacing files like /etc/fstab or /etc/issue > and the response was that "we sometimes need to merge new information". I > guess I have a different definition of "merge"... To me, "merge" would > imply "add to", not "replace". > I do see mention of an option "CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="enter files here..." > that you add to /etc/make.conf. Haha !! But /etc/make.conf is a file that > frequently gets replaced !! No file gets replaced unless you replace it. Portage places new versions of files beside them and tells you to update/merge any new information. etc-update is a tool to help you do that. Sure, it could be a bit more user friendly and better documented but you can't really add anything more than that. True, replacing fstab will make your system unbootable, but it's fairly quick to boot from CD and edit the file correctly. But it would take me much longer to figure out all the custom options in my apache conf file if that got replaced with the default - can we have non-replace functionality for that too? What about ... [pick one from the infinite list of possibilities]. There isn't really anywhere to draw the line, so if you got involved in doing something like that it would become hugely complicated. And it would probably lose functionality. A more novice-friendly tool would probably benefit a lot of users. But it should be as an additional option for updating files as well as the current etc-update, not instead of it. Seeing as so many people are keen for such a tool it shouldn't be too long before someone writes one. Maybe the graphical program someone mentioned fits the bill already... Cheers David BTW it may be helpful to read the last couple of paragraphs from Heschi Kreinick's post in August for a brief overview of how the current `problem' came to be: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/42052/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Michael Rasile wrote: > I agree with what someone said earlier, is > it really necessary to even offer to change /etc/fstab?? IMO etc-update should make a backup copy of all files replaced Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News & Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Michael Rasile wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100, norm wrote: You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. I agree, If I had been a complete newbie I would have really panicked and probably went back to Mandrake (god forbid). It's funny that you mention that. I'm not a newbie to Linux but I was to gentoo some months back when I did my first update and was told (nicely, of course! :-))to do an etc-update. Well, I never dreamed that /etc/fstab would be overwritten. Duh, this was my oversight, of course, I'm not blaming anyone. But I didn't catch it so when gentoo wouldn't boot, I thought the system had given up the ghost. I reinstalled gentoo. I believe I must have had a lot of free time back then. :-) Had I caught it, I could have simply corrected the /etc/fstab overwrite and things would have been fine. I didn't go back to Mandrake, however. :-))). It happened again, but the second time, I was more careful. I agree with what someone said earlier, is it really necessary to even offer to change /etc/fstab?? /etc/fstab is a config file just like anything else in /etc. etc-update of dispatch-conf or any other tool you may choose to use to update your config files had no way to know whether changing a certain file may render your system unbootable. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
For those interested, there's a great gui replacement script for etc-update on the Gentoo forum by xentric (with screenshots). He helped me tremendously getting it working, as my system was severely misconfigured, and I had problems. He has updated it with some things we discovered which will insure that users will avoid the pitfalls I ran into. (In the process, I also corrected serious problems with my Gentoo installation). Robert Crawford (wrc1944 on the forum) http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=86622 On Tuesday 21 October 2003 2:22 pm, brett holcomb wrote: > Yes, but I haven't had much luck with that. At some time > I might go back and work with it some more. > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:33:07 +0200 > > Andrej Kacian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:18 -0400 > > > >"brett holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If > >>it's > >> a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I > >>have > >> some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do > >> manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let > >> it loose. > > > >You can always 'merge' interactively, it is a powerful > >feature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100, norm wrote: > >>You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted >>to >>replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing >>where >>Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always >>backs up >>your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. >> > >I agree, If I had been a complete newbie I would have really >panicked >and probably went back to Mandrake (god forbid). It's funny that you mention that. I'm not a newbie to Linux but I was to gentoo some months back when I did my first update and was told (nicely, of course! :-))to do an etc-update. Well, I never dreamed that /etc/fstab would be overwritten. Duh, this was my oversight, of course, I'm not blaming anyone. But I didn't catch it so when gentoo wouldn't boot, I thought the system had given up the ghost. I reinstalled gentoo. I believe I must have had a lot of free time back then. :-) Had I caught it, I could have simply corrected the /etc/fstab overwrite and things would have been fine. I didn't go back to Mandrake, however. :-))). It happened again, but the second time, I was more careful. I agree with what someone said earlier, is it really necessary to even offer to change /etc/fstab?? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Yes - look at what etc-update displays. It gives options for updating all files automatically, selecting them one at a time or skipping them. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:29:56 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Hall Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Yes, but I haven't had much luck with that. At some time I might go back and work with it some more. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:33:07 +0200 Andrej Kacian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:18 -0400 "brett holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let it loose. You can always 'merge' interactively, it is a powerful feature. -- /~\ The ASCIIAndrej "Ticho" Kacian \ / Ribbon Campaign GnuPG public key ID: 7CD93FE2 (pgp.mit.edu) X Against HTML Key fingerprint: / \ Email! E87D 9DEF 2A23 6FFB 7AD9 542F 4253 3A46 7CD9 3FE2 "Don't forget that MS-Windows is just a temporary workaround until you can switch to a GNU system." --GnuPG creators -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:42:18 -0400 "brett holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's > a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have > some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do > manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let > it loose. You can always 'merge' interactively, it is a powerful feature. -- /~\ The ASCIIAndrej "Ticho" Kacian \ / Ribbon Campaign GnuPG public key ID: 7CD93FE2 (pgp.mit.edu) X Against HTML Key fingerprint: / \ Email! E87D 9DEF 2A23 6FFB 7AD9 542F 4253 3A46 7CD9 3FE2 "Don't forget that MS-Windows is just a temporary workaround until you can switch to a GNU system." --GnuPG creators pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 11:23 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Off to Gentoo's "bug" submittal system to see if anything like this is already listed A search for "etc-update" turns up (18) results, many similar to what I'm referring to... Someone commented about *not* replacing files like /etc/fstab or /etc/issue and the response was that "we sometimes need to merge new information". I guess I have a different definition of "merge"... To me, "merge" would imply "add to", not "replace". I do see mention of an option "CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="enter files here..." that you add to /etc/make.conf. Haha !! But /etc/make.conf is a file that frequently gets replaced !! Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 12:54 PM 10/21/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100 norm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to > > replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where > > Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up > > your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. > > > > I agree, If I had been a complete newbie I would have really panicked > and probably went back to Mandrake (god forbid). > Gentoo developers do a bang-up job (unpaid) on most things, but no one has been able to sell them the fact that offering to replace /etc/fstab (and other critical files) with a generic version (usually there are no differences other than a CVS date) on a running system is a piss-poor idea! Shure, only gurus who never make any mistakes run gentoo. I am hesitant to criticize too harshly people who do an otherwise excellent job, but are unpaid for doing so. Until it affects one of them, apparently we won't see a "fix" for this. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:33:59 +0100 norm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to > > replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where > > Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up > > your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. > > > > I agree, If I had been a complete newbie I would have really panicked > and probably went back to Mandrake (god forbid). > Gentoo developers do a bang-up job (unpaid) on most things, but no one has been able to sell them the fact that offering to replace /etc/fstab (and other critical files) with a generic version (usually there are no differences other than a CVS date) on a running system is a piss-poor idea! Shure, only gurus who never make any mistakes run gentoo. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 11:29 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Follow the prompts... Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Hi Hall - snip - I hesitate whether to proceed UPDATE as recommended if all config files will be rewritten. Not only adding extra work, but the difficulty to me is I am new to Gentoo only having it running for one (1) day. I am inexperienced to re-fix them back if Gentoo can't run properly afterwords. Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Yes. I have edited files under /etc/ such as make.conf Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Can I deselect some of the files LISTED? Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 10:42 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let it loose. There's a few files, /etc/fstab or /etc/lilo.conf, for example, that Gentoo (emerge) should be more careful about replacing though. Honestly, why do very user/machine-specific files like those two examples need changed ?? Oh, we went from lilo v21.5 up to v21.6 ?? Nope. Do NOT touch it. Or, does Gentoo *force* the user to be more careful (than need be ?) ?? Same with /etc/make.conf. I read that that file is your "custom" make settings and /etc/make.globals was the "standard" settings. Why replace specific things that we've changed ?? Is there a reason they can't go in /etc/make.globals instead. Otherwise, there are dozens and dozens of *.conf files that I'll never look at or care about. They just work with the settings that someone else deems are needed. Those are the ones I see listed after running etc-update and choose option ( -5). Off to Gentoo's "bug" submittal system to see if anything like this is already listed Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Yes, you have to look at what it wants to update. If it's a file you edit then see what it wants to change. I have some on my list (make.conf, fstab) that I always do manually. You can't just tell etc-update to run and let it loose. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:42:29 +0100 Norm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hall Stevenson wrote: Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Somehow it managed to overwrite my /etc/fstab which I wasn't to happy about. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. I agree, If I had been a complete newbie I would have really panicked and probably went back to Mandrake (god forbid). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 07:42 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Hall Stevenson wrote: Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Somehow it managed to overwrite my /etc/fstab which I wasn't to happy about. You know, now that you mention is, I seem to recall that it wanted to replace mine once too. Luckily I caught it ! This is one thing where Gentoo's package system needs work. With RPM or APT, it always backs up your current file(s) and appends a meaningful name to it. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Hall Stevenson wrote: Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Somehow it managed to overwrite my /etc/fstab which I wasn't to happy about. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
At 05:24 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote: I hesitate whether to proceed UPDATE as recommended if all config files will be rewritten. Not only adding extra work, but the difficulty to me is I am new to Gentoo only having it running for one (1) day. I am inexperienced to re-fix them back if Gentoo can't run properly afterwords. Have you edited any files in /etc ?? The ones that will possibly get updated you probably haven't touched. It won't overwrite files like /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/hostname. It will often want to replace /etc/make.conf, for example. Again, when you run etc-update, it will *LIST* all of the files it wants to update. You could probably 'cat' that list to a file too. Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Hi seam Thanks for your advice. sean m. wrote: - snip - Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use the '-5' option. I am not very clear of what the advice indicated " then update ALL of your configuration files'. Whether they meant the config files of all packages running on Gentoo 1.4 or only 'portage' Some of those config files have been edited otherwise the packages can't run properly. What is '-5' option? etc-update will update all the config files for portage. but make backups of files like /etc/make.conf, because -5 option will overwrite all the files that etc-update lists. you'll lose your USE variables and gentoo mirrors and all otherwise. I hesitate whether to proceed UPDATE as recommended if all config files will be rewritten. Not only adding extra work, but the difficulty to me is I am new to Gentoo only having it running for one (1) day. I am inexperienced to re-fix them back if Gentoo can't run properly afterwords. Is there any notice/record that which config file(s) has/have been edited so that I may have a chance to trace it/them back after update? B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On 2003.10.21 02:17, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Donnie, Thanks for your advice. _ snip_ 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/ simultaneously afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use the '-5' option. I am not very clear of what the advice indicated " then update ALL of your configuration files'. Whether they meant the config files of all packages running on Gentoo 1.4 or only 'portage' Some of those config files have been edited otherwise the packages can't run properly. What is '-5' option? etc-update will update all the config files for portage. but make backups of files like /etc/make.conf, because -5 option will overwrite all the files that etc-update lists. you'll lose your USE variables and gentoo mirrors and all otherwise. sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Hi Donnie, Thanks for your advice. _ snip_ 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use the '-5' option. I am not very clear of what the advice indicated " then update ALL of your configuration files'. Whether they meant the config files of all packages running on Gentoo 1.4 or only 'portage' Some of those config files have been edited otherwise the packages can't run properly. What is '-5' option? Thanks B.R. Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 01:25, Stephen Liu wrote: > My questions are; > > 1) How to run update portage? Whether > #emerge -u portage > will do the job Yes. Even 'emerge portage' will. > > 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously > afterwords? Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge. If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list, you may choose to use the '-5' option. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Update question
Hi all folks, After running # emerge sync following advice popup * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_recommended * that you update portage now, before any other packages are updated * Please do so and then update ALL of your configuration files My questions are; 1) How to run update portage? Whether #emerge -u portage will do the job 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously afterwords? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update question
Jure Turk wrote: so I got the network running in gentoo finally (the original e100 didn't work in the actual distro but only in the installation so I installed the driver from my motherboard CD). I installed it from stage3...how can I update my system? (bootstrap,packages,...the works!) ? emerge sync emerge -upDv world emerge -uD world -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Update question
so I got the network running in gentoo finally (the original e100 didn't work in the actual distro but only in the installation so I installed the driver from my motherboard CD). I installed it from stage3...how can I update my system? (bootstrap,packages,...the works!) ? Tnx
