Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 04:27:05PM -0500, A. Khattri wrote: > Sounds like you should try sudo. The first time you use sudo, it will > prompt for a password but then the session stays in effect for 30 mins > (you can configure that) so subsequent sudo's will not prompt for a > password unless your session has "expired". If you run sudo every few > minutes you wont be prompted for a password again for the rest of the day. > > or, just put the following in /etc/sudoers USERNAME ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL where USERNAME is the user you want to give sudo powers to, or the group name preceded by % That way you won't be prompted for password at all for sudo. Best, W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * "`I think you ought to know that I'm feeling very depressed.'" "`Life, don't talk to me about life.'" "`Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take you down to the bridge. Call that "job satisfaction"? 'Cos I don't.'" "`I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side.'" - Guess who. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 13:36 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, maxim wexler wrote: > Thanks for the tip. But that's a way off yet. Gotta > lot of configuring to do. Don't need extraneous levels > of complexity. I like to be able to switch between > user and root and back with su and exit > . I've never used sudo, though it's probably > time I learned. Meanwhile Macro$haft will have to > carry me to the web on the ~22k dribble that leaks out > of my phone line 8( Sounds like you should try sudo. The first time you use sudo, it will prompt for a password but then the session stays in effect for 30 mins (you can configure that) so subsequent sudo's will not prompt for a password unless your session has "expired". If you run sudo every few minutes you wont be prompted for a password again for the rest of the day. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
> > You may be the only person you want to use the > machine. but if it is > connectd to the internet and has no user password, > you are unlikely > to be the only person to ever use it. With no user > password, you also > increase the chances of abuse via sudo. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick Thanks for the tip. But that's a way off yet. Gotta lot of configuring to do. Don't need extraneous levels of complexity. I like to be able to switch between user and root and back with su and exit . I've never used sudo, though it's probably time I learned. Meanwhile Macro$haft will have to carry me to the web on the ~22k dribble that leaks out of my phone line 8( -mw __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, maxim wexler wrote: > > The user seems not to be allowed to sudo. See > > /etc/sudoers for > > details. > > > looks like it's because I deleted the "x" which > represents my password in passwd. Su is not the same as sudo. In order to su, you need to be in the wheel group. (You can use vigr to edit that file). In order to use sudo, you need to be in the /etc/sudoers file. (Normally, you would use visudo to edit that file). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
Christoph Eckert wrote: How does chown work? #chown :users doesn't work. chown [OPTION]... OWNER[:[GROUP]] FILE... I added to wheel group, but when I su I get: name expired(something like that). The user seems not to be allowed to sudo. See /etc/sudoers for details. su != sudo Christoph Gysin echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:36:21 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: > Must I have a password? I'm only person who > will ever use this machine. You may be the only person you want to use the machine. but if it is connectd to the internet and has no user password, you are unlikely to be the only person to ever use it. With no user password, you also increase the chances of abuse via sudo. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. pgpdfkfnHwh1F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
> > > I added to wheel group, but when I su I > > get: name expired(something like that). > > The user seems not to be allowed to sudo. See > /etc/sudoers for > details. > looks like it's because I deleted the "x" which represents my password in passwd. Must I have a password? I'm only person who will ever use this machine. -mw __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new to gentoo
> How does chown work? #chown :users doesn't > work. It works. I used it yesterday. > I added to wheel group, but when I su I > get: name expired(something like that). The user seems not to be allowed to sudo. See /etc/sudoers for details. [...] > Why can't I many tools(cp, mv for starters) in > /home/ as user? Must be root! Maybe there are some options in your fstab that prevent users to execute these commands on the home partition. Do you use an extra partition on /home/? If so, check the matching line in your /etc/fstab. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Alexandre Aractingi wrote: Le lun 09/02/2004 à 16:36, Marius Mauch a écrit : No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered package manager. Sorry, I read about that right after I posted this mail :-) For some large packages, e.g. Openoffice.org, there are binary builds in the Portage tree though (in this example openoffice-bin). You can also compile binaries yourself (e.g. emerge -B whatever), but they will be configured for your system specifically (compiler options, USE flags etc.). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Grendel, You can do it, but expect a long time compiling your modules :o) Regards Jose Grendel escribió: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little bit less comfort. Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw and/or it will run just after installation. Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do this). Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will modify the necesasry files. Bye, Grendel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Daniel, I think you are wrong here. The new genkernel by default configures the kernel with almost everything as a module, so you have both options: 1. Manually compile the kernel, choose the drivers you need, and edit /etc/modules.autoload 2. Compile the kernel using genkernel (and the default configuration it provides), emerge hotplug, and rc-update add hotplug default In the first case you will have an optimized kernel only working for your machine and your current hardware. In the second case, you'll have a kernel that takes a lot to build but than can autoconfigure when detecting new hardware. So, again Gentoo is all about choices :o) Regards Jose Daniel Drake escribió: Grendel wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly, - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)? Not to my knowledge. I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :) With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files? Thats only the livecd. For your real install, you will need to: - Compile support for your network card into the kernel - Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module - Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP. I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.: - If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your printer, and remove it when its disconnected - If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the job and wait until the printer appaers - You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in Or did I misunderstand the question? Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Le lun 09/02/2004 à 16:36, Marius Mauch a écrit : > No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered > package manager. Sorry, I read about that right after I posted this mail :-) -- Alexandre Aractingi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
> >No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered >package manager. > Except that there are plenty of packages that rely on binary distributions for a variety of reasons. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
On 02/09/04 Alexandre Aractingi wrote: > Le lun 09/02/2004 à 14:46, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit : > > Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting > > much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little > > bit less comfort. > > Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw > > and/or it will run just after installation. > > I wasn't asking about GUIs, I was asking about binary distribution of > licence-problematic softwares. No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered package manager. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly, > Alexandre Aractingi wrote: > > - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I > > particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally > > > > Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting > much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little > bit less comfort. > Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw > and/or it will run just after installation. Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do this). Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will modify the necesasry files. Bye, Grendel -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Le lun 09/02/2004 à 14:46, Norbert Kamenicky a écrit : > Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting > much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little > bit less comfort. > Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw > and/or it will run just after installation. I wasn't asking about GUIs, I was asking about binary distribution of licence-problematic softwares. From what I read Portage works more or less as urpmi for Mandrake, so it's a great tool, and I was asking if it was possible to feed it with software like libdvdcss (which is yes from one of the first answers :-)) > If u are really very happy with Mandrake, and do not > like to learn lot of new things, stay with it. I'm really happy with Mandrake, which doesn't conflicts with me being curious about other things, like Gentoo for example. I'll stay with Mdk on my work PC, but I'll try Gentoo at home. -- Alexandre Aractingi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Grendel wrote: I see, so that means that the dhcp client side programs are automatically installed and that I dont have to manually install them right? The package you will need is "dhcpcd". On my system, thats part of the system profile, so it should get installed automatically. Even so, if it doesn't, its very simple to install it (like the majority of other gentoo packages): emerge dhcpcd If you give Gentoo a chance, you will grow to love portage :) Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Hi, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: I meant an autodetect tool to help install new devices with appropriate drivers (coming from Mandrake, I'm looking for a 'harddrake' replacement, which is not crucial but comes in handy from time to time) Ah. Gentoo doesn't have anything like this as standard, but I guess there may be some tools out there. Generally, gentooists go through the configuration manually - it usually isnt too long winded. There is plenty of information on the forums about this kind of thing (CUPS setup etc), but if you don't have the time, then you might consider using some of the wizards that KDE/similar include. Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Alexandre Aractingi wrote: - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little bit less comfort. Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw and/or it will run just after installation. If u are really very happy with Mandrake, and do not like to learn lot of new things, stay with it. noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Daniel Drake commented thusly, > Thats only the livecd. > For your real install, you will need to: > - Compile support for your network card into the kernel > - Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module > - Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP. I see, so that means that the dhcp client side programs are automatically installed and that I dont have to manually install them right? Thanks a lot for the information. Grendel. -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Le lun 09/02/2004 à 12:08, Daniel Drake a écrit : > I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). > Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as > part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default > configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.: > - If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your > printer, and remove it when its disconnected > - If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the > job and wait until the printer appaers > - You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in > > Or did I misunderstand the question? I meant an autodetect tool to help install new devices with appropriate drivers (coming from Mandrake, I'm looking for a 'harddrake' replacement, which is not crucial but comes in handy from time to time) -- Alexandre Aractingi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Grendel wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly, - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)? Not to my knowledge. I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :) With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files? Thats only the livecd. For your real install, you will need to: - Compile support for your network card into the kernel - Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module - Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP. I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.: - If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your printer, and remove it when its disconnected - If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the job and wait until the printer appaers - You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in Or did I misunderstand the question? Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Le lun 09/02/2004 à 11:34, Mike Williams a écrit : > > - Does Gentoo use devfs? > Yes. It doesn't have to either. It's also perfectly possible to use udev. > > - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount? > If you want it to. Thanks for your reply! Alex (downloading Gentoo...) -- Alexandre Aractingi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly, > > > - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition > > and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)? > > Not to my knowledge. I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :) With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files? > > - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount? > > If you want it to. There are kernels for gentoo which support supermount. Bye, Grendel -- Hi, I'm a signature virus. plz set me as your signature and help me spread :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 09 February 2004 10:37, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: > - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I > particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally > "problematic" packages - for example libdvdcss). Is there such a thing > for Gentoo? Gentoo doesn't 'need' something like that (sauron root # emerge -s libdvdcss Searching... [ Results for search key : libdvdcss ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * media-libs/libdvdcss Latest version available: 1.2.8 Latest version installed: 1.2.8 Size of downloaded files: 204 kB Homepage:http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/ Description: A portable abstraction library for DVD decryption License: GPL-2 ) But, http://www.breakmygentoo.net has some ebuilds (unsupported obviously), and the forums (http://forums.gentoo.org, again unsupported) generally have a few. > - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition > and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)? Not to my knowledge. > - Does Gentoo use devfs? Yes. It doesn't have to either. It's also perfectly possible to use udev. > - Does Gentoo use automount/supermount? If you want it to. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAJ2JCInuLMrk7bIwRAjVtAJ47mJPTHJ4jR3DW/rV0/CXDueXYyQCgq6nv oUqvSiSmrWzHZVmmGgRM6Jg= =YCg/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
On Saturday 15 November 2003 15:47, Robert Jewell wrote: > I recently upgraded to 2.6.. i used the -mm sources, beta9-r2 or so. my > nvidia works.. kde works.. the system is quick and responsive. no > problems at all with 2.6 .. the mm sources have nvidia patches, i believe. The other way around - the nvidia drivers have kernel 2.6 patches. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:46, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > I just joined the list because I'm installing Gentoo 1.4 on my Toshiba > laptop as I write this. > I have been using Lunar Linux, so I am familiar with source based distros. > > My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of the install). > > My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was wondering if anyone is > using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is there > anything that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be > great! I recently upgraded to 2.6.. i used the -mm sources, beta9-r2 or so. my nvidia works.. kde works.. the system is quick and responsive. no problems at all with 2.6 .. the mm sources have nvidia patches, i believe. -bob -- First it Giveth. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
On Friday 14 November 2003 04:56, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > Does it [nvidia] run slugish on 2.6 kernels? And did it mention the > www.demion.de patches? :-) I'm running nvidia/linux2.6/kde and have found no problems at all. The nvidia-kernel ebuild includes at least some patches from www.demion.de simply to get it to work with the 2.6 kernel. As for sluggishness, I ran nptl for a short time and noticed no difference with nvidia. In fact, I noticed no real difference with nptl. The only reason I removed it from my system, however, is that app-i18n/canna would not work with it. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
Does it run slugish on 2.6 kernels? And did it mention the www.demion.de patches? :-) Ralph On Thursday 13 November 2003 12:30 pm, Chris Carter wrote: > > My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of > > the install). > > > > My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was > > wondering if anyone is > > using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is > > there anything > > that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great! > > Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process > finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl > support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers). > > I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver > runs sluggish unless nptl is used. > > Cheers! > Chris > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
> My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of > the install). > > My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was > wondering if anyone is > using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is > there anything > that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great! Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers). I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver runs sluggish unless nptl is used. Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo. 2.6 kernel question....
> My system is building glibc 2.3.2 ( in the bootstrap part of > the install). > > My question is, I want to run a 2.6 kernel and I was > wondering if anyone is > using a 2.6 kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and KDE? If so, is > there anything > that I need to know to get things running? Any help would be great! Let me know how you get on, I am right in the middle of the same process finding it real hard to compile glibc (also bootstrap process) with nptl support (it complains it doesn't have the kernel headers). I read the forums before I started and found that Nvidia video driver runs sluggish unless nptl is used. Cheers! Chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list