[gentoo-user] Re: VMware - Linux kernel yield() functionality is disabled.
Mark Knecht wrote: My worry with etc-update is that I know, for the most part, all the files I modify when doing an install so I know what to look for when I'm selecting files to replace myself. However with that tool there's a point where you might have 20 files that need updating, you look at the list and nothing looks like what I changed and you hit -5 to tell it to do everything. I know I'm going to overwrite sysctl.conf that way because it's not in my mental list. Put your /etc under SVN, or Mercurial, or whatever revision control system du jour. Bonus points if you manage to store file and directory permissions in there as well. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mystery square under KDE [SOLVED]
On 11/08/10 09:27, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 11/07/10 14:10, John Campbell wrote: On 11/05/2010 09:38 PM, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I've got KDE set up in a twin head configuration with the menu/task manager thingy set for autohide on the top edge of the LHS monitor. When I move the mouse up to the top of the screen to display the task manager/kicker, as well as the menu displaying, I also get a large translucent rectangle showing. The task manager shows and it is of the depth you would expect, the height of a character plus appropriate padding, but as well as this I get this translucent rectangle showing which is about 2/3 screen depth and 2/3 screen width in size. This is displayed as long as the task manager is displayed - move the mouse away from the task manager and the task manager disappears, and so does the mystery rectangle, move the mouse back to display the task manager and the rectangle comes back. I seem to remember that rectangle. It went away when I switched to Folder View and created a Desktop folder like I had in KDE3. Well, I did an emerge -NuD world over the weekend, which showed that my machie is dying - compiler segfaults all over the place but that's another story, and the square is now gone. Looks like it was a code/config bug in the version of KDE I was running Regards, Andrew Well it came back again, didn't it. And now it's gone again. It appears that I had in the past managed to expand a task bar widget thingy, I think the task manager, and just now whilst stuffing around, happened to notice it and rectify it. Andrew
[gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc gives strange error
Hi all, I'm trying to update my glibc for now 2 weeks or so and it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I run into a strange error. /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(init-first.os):(.data+0x0): multiple definition of `__libc_multiple_libcs' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.bss+0xe8): first defined here /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(dl-addr.os): In function `_dl_addr_inside_object': dl-addr.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_dl_addr_inside_object' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.text+0x11260): first defined here collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück [...] make for amd64 failed The last 100 lines of the build.log you can find here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/287750/ And my emerge --info sys-libs/glibc here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/287772/ I tried many things like: playing with cflags -fstack-protector, downgrading gcc from 4.4.5 to 4.4.4, recompiling DEPEND packages and later hole @system. To my mind it is not a bug of glibc, at least I didn't find anything appropiate at bugs.gentoo.org and on another machine in office it's compiling w/o errors. Any idea and help is welcome, slowly I'm becoming despaired. Thank you very much in advance for your reply. Kind regards, der Max P.S. In the last time I receive lots of segfaults, does it has something to do with my glibc error?
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Thursday 04 November 2010, dhk wrote: I've always used the genkernel, but now am trying to make a manual one. I think the kernel is alright since all the default setting seemed reasonable and the build was easy enough. However, when I boot to it I get a kernel panic and it complains about the root device /dev/hda3. So I think the problem has to do with my parameters or syntax in grub.conf. Below are three grub menu options. The first two have the problem and the third is the genkernel that works fine. Is there something wrong with the way the first two are? Thanks. # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev # From Documentation: video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768...@85 # This a genkernel and works title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r6 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 --dhk grub must point to sda3 not hda3 Yes, I had a similar problem. The device names are different on my machine between genkernel and my own kernel. Make sure to change that in your /etc/fstab as well. Dont know if this is always the case though. Regards, Coert Waagmeester
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On 11/08/2010 05:28 AM, Coert Waagmeester wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Thursday 04 November 2010, dhk wrote: I've always used the genkernel, but now am trying to make a manual one. I think the kernel is alright since all the default setting seemed reasonable and the build was easy enough. However, when I boot to it I get a kernel panic and it complains about the root device /dev/hda3. So I think the problem has to do with my parameters or syntax in grub.conf. Below are three grub menu options. The first two have the problem and the third is the genkernel that works fine. Is there something wrong with the way the first two are? Thanks. # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev # From Documentation: video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768...@85 # This a genkernel and works title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r6 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 --dhk grub must point to sda3 not hda3 Yes, I had a similar problem. The device names are different on my machine between genkernel and my own kernel. Make sure to change that in your /etc/fstab as well. Dont know if this is always the case though. Regards, Coert Waagmeester I'm booting to an IDE hard disk. Are you say the device name should change from /dev/hda3 to /dev/sda3? If I change it in /etc/fstab and it doesn't work, I'll have problems, I'll probably have to boot to the livecd. Thanks, --dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
dhk wrote:
On 11/08/2010 05:28 AM, Coert Waagmeester wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Thursday 04 November 2010, dhk wrote:
I've always used the genkernel, but now am trying to make a manual one.
I think the kernel is alright since all the default setting seemed
reasonable and the build was easy enough. However, when I boot to it I
get a kernel panic and it complains about the root device /dev/hda3. So
I think the problem has to do with my parameters or syntax in grub.conf.
Below are three grub menu options. The first two have the problem and
the third is the genkernel that works fine. Is there something wrong
with the way the first two are? Thanks.
# This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic
title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3
# This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic
title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 vga=791
splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev
# From Documentation: video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768...@85
# This a genkernel and works
title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r6
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 init=/linuxrc
ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev
initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6
--dhk
grub must point to sda3 not hda3
Yes, I had a similar problem.
The device names are different on my machine between genkernel and my
own kernel.
Make sure to change that in your /etc/fstab as well.
Dont know if this is always the case though.
Regards,
Coert Waagmeester
I'm booting to an IDE hard disk. Are you say the device name should
change from /dev/hda3 to /dev/sda3? If I change it in /etc/fstab and it
doesn't work, I'll have problems, I'll probably have to boot to the livecd.
Thanks,
--dhk
It has indeed happened to me with an IDE PATA disk.
Try first only to change only your grub config.
Then if you see that the kernel boots fine, you can change /etc/fstab.
If you want you can even use LABELs in fstab.
give your ext{2,3} partitions labels with e2label
and change the device node eg /dev/hda1 in fstab to LABEL=yournewlabel
Regards,
Coert Waagmeester
[gentoo-user] mutt attachment viewing
The entries for text/html in /etc/mailcap and ~/.mutt/mailcap on my ~amd64 Gentoo Linux system are $ grep ^text/html ~/.mutt/mailcap /etc/mailcap /home/romildo/.mutt/mailcap:text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal; copiousoutput; description=HTMLText /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html Although the entry for links does not have the field copiousoutput, it is not being used for viewing an html attachment from the mutt attachments menu, as it should be. Instead it is using the lynx entry. I am using Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15, Gentoo 1.5.21-r1). Any clues? Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up two monitors
Am 07.11.2010 21:19, schrieb Mick: The splash screen only covers part of the wide screen monitor on the right (i.e. it does not stretch across it's whole width). The smaller left hand side monitor shows the splash full size. That is a quirk(?) in kernel mode setting (kms) because it can only set the output to clone-mode when used with two or more monitors. Because of that it has to find the lowest common denominator for the resolution to use on all of them. Greetings Sebastian Beßler
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc gives strange error
Maximilian Bräutigam writes: I'm trying to update my glibc for now 2 weeks or so and it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I run into a strange error. /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(init-first.os):(.data+0x0): multiple definition of `__libc_multiple_libcs' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.bss+0xe8): first defined here /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(dl-addr.os): In function `_dl_addr_inside_object': dl-addr.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_dl_addr_inside_object' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.text+0x11260): first defined here collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück [...] I tried many things like: playing with cflags -fstack-protector, Hmm, does this mean you removed -fstack-protector? downgrading gcc from 4.4.5 to 4.4.4, recompiling DEPEND packages and later hole @system. To my mind it is not a bug of glibc, at least I didn't find anything appropiate at bugs.gentoo.org and on another machine in office it's compiling w/o errors. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332823 says that -fstack-protector is supported for hardened profiles only. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up two monitors
On Monday 08 November 2010 11:43:00 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 07.11.2010 21:19, schrieb Mick: The splash screen only covers part of the wide screen monitor on the right (i.e. it does not stretch across it's whole width). The smaller left hand side monitor shows the splash full size. That is a quirk(?) in kernel mode setting (kms) because it can only set the output to clone-mode when used with two or more monitors. Because of that it has to find the lowest common denominator for the resolution to use on all of them. Ah! That explains it. With two monitors of the same size then, it would be full size on both. After all this the user asked me to take off the splash screen! :-@ It seems that after xdm/kdm has launched the kdm login is interrupted and the user is dumped into a console. This seems to happen at the time the init scripts obtain an IP address (or when vixie cron is launched). Nothing in the logs to show anything being amiss. If I do not use a splash screen the user is not returned to the console. Not sure if there's a fix for this. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] USE flag enca
Today I received the following from my daily emerge --update !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - media-libs/libass-0.9.11 (Change USE: +enca) - media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101107 (Change USE: -enca) The instructions are clear enough, but how do I chose which alternative to apply? In use.local.desc I find for both entries media-libs/libass:enca - Enables support for charset discovery and conversion. So I guess the default is for mplayer to have that support and libass to not have it. But I am not sure what it is. As far as I know I don't have many charsets. My locale.gen is just en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 Any advice as to whether I should enable or disable the support would be appreciated. thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
Hi, yesterday i was updating some trivial packages when i noticed
emerge got broken after updating perl (from [b]perl-5.12.2-r1[/b] to
[b]perl-5.12.2-r2[/b]). I've also took a look at /etc/make.conf but i
think i did not modify it and after checking it it seems to have no
errors. Right not every emerge fails, i think the problem is perl is
failing to find need headers or whatever.
GCC and system libraries seems ok:
$gcc-config -l
[1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.4 *
$gcc-config -c
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.4
$binutils-config -l
[1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-2.20.1 *
$binutils-config -c
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-2.20.1
GCC is working fine:
$cat /tmp/test.c
#include stdio.h
void main(){
printf(Hello world\n);
}
$gcc test.c -o test ./test
Hello world
$cat /etc/make.conf
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4 -msse4.1 -msse4.2
CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4 -msse4.1 -msse4.2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
ACCEPT_LICENSE=Nero-EULA-US dlj-1.1 sun-bcla-java-vm AdobeFlash-10.1
MAKEOPTS=-j6
USE=-acl alsa -berkdb custom-cxxflags -ipv6 -esd exceptions -gdbm
-gnome -gstreamer gtkstyle -handbook icu -ldap -kdeprefix -mysql mmx
mmxext opengl -pam -perl pic -python qt-copy -semantic-desktop samba
sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 -ssl -tcpd v4l v4l2 webkit xinerama xcomposite
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
DISTDIR=${PORTDIR}/distfiles
PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=${PORTDIR_OVERLAY} /usr/local/portage
PORTAGE_BUILDDIR=/var/tmp/portage
PORTAGE_TMPFS=/dev/shm
PORTAGE_ECLASS_WARNING_ENABLE=0
CFLAGS_KERNEL=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4
-msse4.1 -msse4.2
LINGUAS=es es_ES
APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn _alias authn_anon
authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default
authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav
dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter
file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime
mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id
userdir usertrack vhost_alias filter
NETBEANS_MODULES=php ide apisupport harness java nb websvccommon
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse joystick penmount evdev
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia v4l
source /usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf
FEATURES=metadata-transfer parallel-fetch ccache
WANT_MP=true
$emerge --info
[code]
Portage 2.1.9.24 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.4,
glibc-2.11.2-r3, 2.6.32-reiser4-r7 x86_64)
=
System uname:
linux-2.6.32-reiser4-r7-x86_64-intel-r-_core-tm-_i7_cpu_9...@_2.67ghz-with-gentoo-1.12.14
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 13:00:01 +
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash: 4.1_p7
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11
dev-lang/python: 2.6.5-r3, 3.1.2-r4
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:2.3-r1
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.65-r1
sys-devel/automake: 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.3, 1.11.1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.4-r2
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10
sys-devel/make: 3.81-r2
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.30-r1 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -...@eula Nero-EULA-US dlj-1.1 sun-bcla-java-vm
AdobeFlash-10.1
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4 -msse4.1 -msse4.2
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf
/etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
/etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d
/etc/terminfo
CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4 -msse4.1 -msse4.2
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache distlocks fixlafiles
fixpackages metadata-transfer news parallel-fetch protect-owned
sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs
unmerge-orphans userfetch
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org;
LANG=es...@euro
LC_ALL=es...@euro
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu
LINGUAS=es es_ES
MAKEOPTS=-j6
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage/layman/java-overlay
/usr/local/portage/layman/qting-edge
/usr/local/portage/layman/linuxdna /usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdr cli
consolekit cracklib crypt cups custom-cxxflags cxx dbus
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc gives strange error
On Monday 08 November 2010 12:04:50 Alex Schuster wrote: Maximilian Bräutigam writes: I'm trying to update my glibc for now 2 weeks or so and it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I run into a strange error. /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(init-first.os):(.data+0x0): multiple definition of `__libc_multiple_libcs' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.bss+0xe8): first defined here /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(dl-addr.os): In function `_dl_addr_inside_object': dl-addr.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_dl_addr_inside_object' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.text+0x11260): first defined here collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück [...] I tried many things like: playing with cflags -fstack-protector, Hmm, does this mean you removed -fstack-protector? downgrading gcc from 4.4.5 to 4.4.4, recompiling DEPEND packages and later hole @system. To my mind it is not a bug of glibc, at least I didn't find anything appropiate at bugs.gentoo.org and on another machine in office it's compiling w/o errors. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332823 says that -fstack-protector is supported for hardened profiles only. BTW, did you try setting MAKEOPTS=-j1 in your /etc/make.conf or command line, just this once? It usually solves emerge problems here and is the first thing I try. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc gives strange error [SOLVED]
Am 08.11.2010 13:04, schrieb Alex Schuster: Maximilian Bräutigam writes: I'm trying to update my glibc for now 2 weeks or so and it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I run into a strange error. /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(init-first.os):(.data+0x0): multiple definition of `__libc_multiple_libcs' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.bss+0xe8): first defined here /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/libc_pic.a(dl-addr.os): In function `_dl_addr_inside_object': dl-addr.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_dl_addr_inside_object' /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3/work/build-amd64-x86_64-pc-li nux-gnu-nptl/elf/dl-allobjs.os:(.text+0x11260): first defined here collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück [...] I tried many things like: playing with cflags -fstack-protector, Hmm, does this mean you removed -fstack-protector? downgrading gcc from 4.4.5 to 4.4.4, recompiling DEPEND packages and later hole @system. To my mind it is not a bug of glibc, at least I didn't find anything appropiate at bugs.gentoo.org and on another machine in office it's compiling w/o errors. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332823 says that -fstack-protector is supported for hardened profiles only. Wonko First, I didn't use it (cannot remember error), then I tried it out, and now I removed it again and it's compiling... Wow, thanks alot for the hint. Kind regards, der Max
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
On Monday 08 November 2010 13:33:23 Pau Peris wrote: Hi, yesterday i was updating some trivial packages when i noticed emerge got broken after updating perl (from [b]perl-5.12.2-r1[/b] to [b]perl-5.12.2-r2[/b]). I've also took a look at /etc/make.conf but i think i did not modify it and after checking it it seems to have no errors. Right not every emerge fails, i think the problem is perl is failing to find need headers or whatever. [snip ...] I hope someone can help as a working emerge is critical on any Gentoo system, thanks in advanced :) A few quick things to check: Did you run 'perl-cleaner --all'? Did you run 'lafilefixer --justfixit'? Did you run 'revdep-rebuild -v -i -- --ask'? Did you try to remerge what is failing with MAKEOPTS=-j1? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
On 11/08/2010 05:33 AM, Pau Peris wrote: Hi, yesterday i was updating some trivial packages when i noticed emerge got broken after updating perl (from [b]perl-5.12.2-r1[/b] to [b]perl-5.12.2-r2[/b]). I've also took a look at /etc/make.conf but i think i did not modify it and after checking it it seems to have no errors. Right not every emerge fails, i think the problem is perl is failing to find need headers or whatever. GCC and system libraries seems ok: snipped I hope someone can help as a working emerge is critical on any Gentoo system, thanks in advanced :) I had to re-emerge two perl packages - extutils-depends and extutils-pkgconfig, then I was fine.
[gentoo-user] suidperl missing after update to perl 5.12.2-r2
Hi, After updating from dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r8 to dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r2 I am no missing the suidperl binary. Some of my perl scripts _need_ this feature. Any suggestion on how to be able to execute perl-scritps suid (except downgrade to 5.8.8). Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
Thanks for the answers :) Yes, i've run al of the above commands except the oen with MAKEOPTS=-j1 Also re-emerge extutils-depends and extutils-pkgconfig didn't helped, but is strange that they emerged fine. One thing which took my atention but seem not to be critical was: [code] * Updating ph files. * Ignore all No such file... messages! Can't open syslimits.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stdarg.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio Can't open stddef.h: No existe el fichero o el directorio [/code] Also strange the path which is returned by running: [b]perl-cleaner --leftovers[/b] [code] * Finding left over modules and header * The following files remain. These were either installed by hand * or edited. This script cannot deal with them. /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/B/B.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/B/C/C.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/ByteLoader/ByteLoader.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Cwd/Cwd.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Devel/DProf/DProf.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Devel/PPPort/PPPort.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Devel/Peek/Peek.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Digest/MD5/MD5.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Byte/Byte.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/CN/CN.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/EBCDIC/EBCDIC.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Encode.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/JP/JP.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/KR/KR.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Symbol/Symbol.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/TW/TW.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Encode/Unicode/Unicode.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Filter/Util/Call/Call.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/GDBM_File/GDBM_File.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/I18N/Langinfo/Langinfo.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/IO/IO.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/IPC/SysV/SysV.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/Base64.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/NDBM_File/NDBM_File.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Opcode/Opcode.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/POSIX/POSIX.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/encoding/encoding.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/scalar/scalar.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/PerlIO/via/via.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/SDBM_File/SDBM_File.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Socket/Socket.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Storable/Storable.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Sys/Hostname/Hostname.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Sys/Syslog/Syslog.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/Unicode/Normalize/Normalize.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/XS/APItest/APItest.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/XS/Typemap/Typemap.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/attrs/attrs.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/re/re.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/threads/shared/shared.so /usr/lib32/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/threads/threads.so /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/Encode/ConfigLocal.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Encode/ConfigLocal.pm [/code] [b]$ls /usr/lib32/perl5/[/b] [code] 5.8.8[/code] [b]$ls /usr/lib64/perl5/[/b] [code]5.12.2 5.8.8 vendor_perl[/code] Would it be safe to remove 5.8.8 directory? what's also strange is that the system has been running fine for years... That's the error i get when trying to emerge perl and chost is set to [b]CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu[/b] at /etc/make.conf emerge perl [code]emerge -va perl * Mounting 2048M of memory to /var/tmp/portage ... [ ok ] * emerging -va perl * IMPORTANT: 2 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r2 USE=ithreads -berkdb -build -debug -doc -gdbm 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r2 * perl-5.12.2.tar.bz2
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On Monday 08 November 2010, Dale wrote: Robin Atwood wrote: On Saturday 06 November 2010, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: This is getting weird. I haven't rebooted in a few weeks now. I tried to watch a video a bit ago and it was slow again. It was down to about 2 or 3 frames per second. It is awful. If I go tell it to switch to opengl, it gets fast again but after a while it will go back to being really slow. Why do I have to keep telling it to use nvidia's opengl when it says it is using it and I have switched to a few times? If it is using it, why does it slow down until I tell it to switch? I did do a huge KDE upgrade the other day. I don't recall seeing anything else X related being updated but I could have missed something in that LONG list. I did do a baselayout upgrade and portage itself has been upgraded a few times. Any ideas on why this thing keeps doing this? Would a reboot even help in this situation? When it gets very slow start up top and see what's using the CPU. My bet is the Xserver. I have a GeForce 9400 GT 512MB and the xserver will happily use 90% while nothing much is happening. Start a KDE4 app which constantly updates (ktorrent, kps are good 3rd party examples) and the xserver goes crazy. HTH -Robin Nope, it wasn't that here. This is what top says: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 17995 root 20 0 45360 15m 3360 R 89.6 0.7 0:35.72 glxgears 32113 dale 20 0 305m 162m 27m S 3.3 8.0 17:56.38 seamonkey-bin 31796 root 20 0 187m 76m 30m S 2.0 3.8 21:51.94 X 31914 dale 20 0 286m 47m 24m S 1.7 2.3 18:04.02 kwin It was glxgears that was taking up the most CPU time but I think the rest of it was processing the video. Thing is, nothing has been updated and I have not even logged out of KDE since it was working this morning. So, without me doing a single thing, it has stopped working as it should. It's like the card is being bypassed as far as it using its own CPU to process the picture. Oh, look at this miserable mess: 2 frames in 8.5 seconds = 0.236 FPS 2 frames in 8.7 seconds = 0.230 FPS 2 frames in 8.3 seconds = 0.241 FPS 2 frames in 8.1 seconds = 0.246 FPS 2 frames in 8.1 seconds = 0.247 FPS 2 frames in 8.1 seconds = 0.247 FPS 2 frames in 8.3 seconds = 0.241 FPS Trust me, to see those little wheels turn that slow is really boring. Going back to single user and switch this again. I have noticed that telling it to switch to nvidia's opengl while in single user mode does seem to last longer. Going to re-emerge the drivers to while I am at it. Can't hurt anything. Still open to ideas cause this is weird. AFAIK, all eselect opengl does is set up some symlinks so you use NVidia libraries and not Mesa ones. You might want to poke around and check last access dates. HTH -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling --
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
I've also noticed [b]/usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Exec format error[/b] on some emerge error logs. i don't know any clue about the error.
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
I'm starting to think the erroris not related to perl package, so i'm totally lost as i think /etc/make.conf is ok.
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:13 on Monday 08 November 2010, Pau Peris did opine thusly: I'm starting to think the erroris not related to perl package, so i'm totally lost as i think /etc/make.conf is ok. Correct. Your configure scripts cannot find header directories - nothing to do with perl at all. I assume the directories and their contents do still exist? If not, do you have buildpkg's of packages in @system? I'd start by unpacking the entire toolchain, something is missing or corrupt. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On Monday 08 November 2010, dhk wrote: On 11/08/2010 05:28 AM, Coert Waagmeester wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Thursday 04 November 2010, dhk wrote: I've always used the genkernel, but now am trying to make a manual one. I think the kernel is alright since all the default setting seemed reasonable and the build was easy enough. However, when I boot to it I get a kernel panic and it complains about the root device /dev/hda3. So I think the problem has to do with my parameters or syntax in grub.conf. Below are three grub menu options. The first two have the problem and the third is the genkernel that works fine. Is there something wrong with the way the first two are? Thanks. # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 # This is a Manually built kernel with default settings. kernel panic title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r12 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.34-gentoo-r12 root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev # From Documentation: video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1024x768...@85 # This a genkernel and works title Gentoo Linux x86 2.6.34-r6 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 splash=verbose video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap udev initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.34-gentoo-r6 --dhk grub must point to sda3 not hda3 Yes, I had a similar problem. The device names are different on my machine between genkernel and my own kernel. Make sure to change that in your /etc/fstab as well. Dont know if this is always the case though. Regards, Coert Waagmeester I'm booting to an IDE hard disk. Are you say the device name should change from /dev/hda3 to /dev/sda3? If I change it in /etc/fstab and it doesn't work, I'll have problems, I'll probably have to boot to the livecd. Thanks, --dhk if you are using libata, you have sdX device names.
[gentoo-user] Re: mutt attachment viewing
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:44:37PM +0100, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:11:30AM -0200, José Romildo Malaquias wrote: The entries for text/html in /etc/mailcap and ~/.mutt/mailcap on my ~amd64 Gentoo Linux system are $ grep ^text/html ~/.mutt/mailcap /etc/mailcap /home/romildo/.mutt/mailcap:text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal; copiousoutput; description=HTMLText ^ /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html Although the entry for links does not have the field copiousoutput, it is not being used for viewing an html attachment from the mutt attachments menu, as it should be. Instead it is using the lynx entry. I am using Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15, Gentoo 1.5.21-r1). Any clues? needsterminal? This option is already in the mailcap entry. Romildo
[gentoo-user] DNSSEC
Hello, Several times in the past, I have approached setting up DNS servers, only to get side-tracked. I'm making another stab as setting my DNS servers for my humble, small cidr (/29) block. Now it seems DNSSEC is all the rage, even at the root servers [1]. So what am i to choose to effect DNSSEC on gentoo? Hardware suggestions on low power (5-10 watts) (embedded) hardware with Gentoo are welcome. net-dns/unbound (portage) [2] bind9 (portage) nsd (?) opendnssec (sunrise overlay) ??? Googling and research has led me to reading quite a lot of interesting, but fragmented thoughts on the subject of DNSSEC and gentoo. Any discussion or guidance is appreciated. [1] http://www.root-dnssec.org/ [2] http://www.unbound.net/documentation/howto_anchor.html [3] https://svn.whyscream.net/whyscream-overlay/sunrise-dev/net-dns/ [4]http://gentoo-overlays.zugaina.org/sunrise/net-dns.html.en [] https://www.dnssec-tools.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorials
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
On Monday 08 November 2010 15:20:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:13 on Monday 08 November 2010, Pau Peris did opine thusly: I'm starting to think the erroris not related to perl package, so i'm totally lost as i think /etc/make.conf is ok. Correct. Your configure scripts cannot find header directories - nothing to do with perl at all. I assume the directories and their contents do still exist? If not, do you have buildpkg's of packages in @system? I'd start by unpacking the entire toolchain, something is missing or corrupt. You may find this link handy: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] netbook
Hello, OK, I want a 10 or so, netbook that'll run windows and gentoo on dual boot. I'd like to stay under $200, but in no way over $300.00 . w...@ireless and wired Ethernet are a must. suggestions? James
Re: [gentoo-user] DNSSEC
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:21 on Monday 08 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, Several times in the past, I have approached setting up DNS servers, only to get side-tracked. I'm making another stab as setting my DNS servers for my humble, small cidr (/29) block. Don't take this the wrong way, but you probably don't want to go this route right now. Your questions and statements indicate that you do not know much about DNSSEC and probably not DNS itself either. DNS is not trivial, regardless of what anyone tells you. DNSSEC less so. This is a topic best left to groups that do it all day every day, the hobbyist approach isn't what you want. How do I know this? Well, I have 7 years of DNS support tickets I can trawl through :-) The number of mistakes made by clients, the number of silly requests they make and the sheer amount of misinformation about how DNS works is unbelievable. By contrast, there's no record of my team (who admin the servers) making any mistakes, ever. And the fellow who sits next to me (and signs off on my performance review) just signed the .za zone. I watched him, I know how non-trivial it is :-) Play with DNSSEC by all means if it intrigues you. If you get it right easily, you can write a wiki page that helps others immensely. But just be informed upfront about what it's going to take. Now it seems DNSSEC is all the rage, even at the root servers [1]. So what am i to choose to effect DNSSEC on gentoo? Hardware suggestions on low power (5-10 watts) (embedded) hardware with Gentoo are welcome. net-dns/unbound (portage) [2] bind9 (portage) nsd (?) opendnssec (sunrise overlay) ??? Googling and research has led me to reading quite a lot of interesting, but fragmented thoughts on the subject of DNSSEC and gentoo. Any discussion or guidance is appreciated. [1] http://www.root-dnssec.org/ [2] http://www.unbound.net/documentation/howto_anchor.html [3] https://svn.whyscream.net/whyscream-overlay/sunrise-dev/net-dns/ [4]http://gentoo-overlays.zugaina.org/sunrise/net-dns.html.en [] https://www.dnssec-tools.org/wiki/index.php/Tutorials -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:59 on Monday 08 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, OK, I want a 10 or so, netbook that'll run windows and gentoo on dual boot. I'd like to stay under $200, but in no way over $300.00 . w...@ireless and wired Ethernet are a must. I can't advise you much on what to buy, I'm on the other side of the planet. But I can give you tips about what I've found workable with mine (Acer Aspire One A110). 1. 600 pixels vertically is not enough, not even with Ubuntu and Unity. Too many dialogs just don't fit and it'll take a while for them all to get fixed. Most web pages are virtually unusable. 1024 x 768 is the minimum I would recommend anyone to use. 2. Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also not enough and the write performance is pathetic. 3. From what I've seen, both wired and wireless is pretty much the norm, using bog standard interface hardware. The only thing to watch out for is that you are not unlucky enough to get one with below-average Linux support (like the Ath5k 2 years ago). 4. Make sure you are comfortable with the keyboard. They tend to be 80% of full-sized so there's not much margin for error. Use it as much as possible before you buy. 5. Got kids younger than 12? Don't let them find out you have one :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: DNSSEC
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I know how non-trivial it is FABULOUS!!! With several Domain names, I'll just let the local ISP resolve one and I'll set up servers to resolv the other(s) and pull the cables if necessary. Lots of physical partitioning on my little net and nothing that can't be taken off line as needed. Besides that the purpose of this little net, is to have FUN with SECURITY Ah, yes, I'll need to update some of my transparent bridges to glean(parse) various (new)traffic streams. (any suggestions there?) you can write a wiki page that helps others immensely. But just be informed upfront about what it's going to take. wink wink, nudge nudge. OK. ;-) I'm not unfamiliar with it, just rusty (bout 5 years) The experience is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Nothing here to steal, unless hacks can jump an air gap firewall(ha ha) I'm quite certain it's going to be FUN! Maybe, just maybe, this is something that the GENTOO DOCS should be addressing?? All input is most welcome. cheers, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Robin Atwood wrote: AFAIK, all eselect opengl does is set up some symlinks so you use NVidia libraries and not Mesa ones. You might want to poke around and check last access dates. HTH -Robin I was thinking the same thing. I figure something worked for a while and then had some sort of a error and then switched to something else that was slow. I don't know the inner workings of opengl so I am just guessing. I just know it worked for a while then didn't until I told it to switch again. It is weird tho. I did do this last night tho. I upgraded my kernel and updated to the latest nvidia drivers. I checked it again a few minutes ago by playing a video and it is still working like it should. At almost full screen my CPU was running at about 40 to 50% which is about like it was a while back. So, I figure it was either some sort of kernel issue or even more likely a nvidia driver issue. I'm just hoping it keeps working like this. Those little wheels are turning pretty good now. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: netbook
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: 5. Got kids younger than 12? Don't let them find out you have one I have a 13 year old that will be in medical school, before he turns 17. It's for him. Very bright and beautiful young (Christian) man (got his looks and brains from his mom).. Kids pilfering my computers and electronics has been the norm since diapers Thanks for the tips. James
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
Coert Waagmeester wrote:
It has indeed happened to me with an IDE PATA disk.
Try first only to change only your grub config.
Then if you see that the kernel boots fine, you can change /etc/fstab.
If you want you can even use LABELs in fstab.
give your ext{2,3} partitions labels with e2label
and change the device node eg /dev/hda1 in fstab to LABEL=yournewlabel
Regards,
Coert Waagmeester
I agree with this 100%. I switched mine to the new PATA drivers and I
couldn't figure out what the drive order was. I used LABELS and it has
worked ever since. The funny thing is, I have a card to hook a SATA
drive up to and it puts it first instead of the drives that are hooked
directly to the mobo. I wasn't expecting that and that was why I could
not get mine to boot with the PATA drives. Bad thing is, the CD/DVD's I
have still use the old IDE drivers so I couldn't even test it by booting
that.
I have not been able to get grub to see the LABELS yet but I'm going to
post fstab so that you have a example that is known to work and not from
a guide:
/dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime1 2
/dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1
/dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0
/dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1
/dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1
/dev/disk/by-label/data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1
Now someone post their grub.conf for us both. I just can't get mine to
work with grub at all. I can't even use tab to find the drives in the
boot menu.
Hope that helps.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
Hi, i do not have buildpkg's of packages in @system so i don't know how to proceed. It's very strange cause i was emerging sometrivial packages without problems, last one was perl and then i was taking a look at /etc/make.conf when tried to re-emerge php and start getting errors (no reboot, no errors before, no deleting anything, really strange). At this point i'm starting to hate computers 2010/11/8 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Monday 08 November 2010 15:20:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:13 on Monday 08 November 2010, Pau Peris did opine thusly: I'm starting to think the erroris not related to perl package, so i'm totally lost as i think /etc/make.conf is ok. Correct. Your configure scripts cannot find header directories - nothing to do with perl at all. I assume the directories and their contents do still exist? If not, do you have buildpkg's of packages in @system? I'd start by unpacking the entire toolchain, something is missing or corrupt. You may find this link handy: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
Please, is there any developer/geek who can help to solve the situation? Why do i get : [code]/usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Exec format error [/code] I did nothing than updating the system, also /etc/make.conf (which i took a look before getting errors) seems ok. I've tried with a simple make.conf as follows with no luck: [code]# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically # built this stage. # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example. CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe # WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly. # Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing. #CHOST=ia64-unknown-linux-gnu CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [/code] 2010/11/8 Pau Peris sibok1...@gmail.com: Hi, i do not have buildpkg's of packages in @system so i don't know how to proceed. It's very strange cause i was emerging sometrivial packages without problems, last one was perl and then i was taking a look at /etc/make.conf when tried to re-emerge php and start getting errors (no reboot, no errors before, no deleting anything, really strange). At this point i'm starting to hate computers 2010/11/8 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Monday 08 November 2010 15:20:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:13 on Monday 08 November 2010, Pau Peris did opine thusly: I'm starting to think the erroris not related to perl package, so i'm totally lost as i think /etc/make.conf is ok. Correct. Your configure scripts cannot find header directories - nothing to do with perl at all. I assume the directories and their contents do still exist? If not, do you have buildpkg's of packages in @system? I'd start by unpacking the entire toolchain, something is missing or corrupt. You may find this link handy: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Re: mutt attachment viewing
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 06:36:20PM +0100, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:54:40PM -0200, José Romildo Malaquias wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:44:37PM +0100, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:11:30AM -0200, José Romildo Malaquias wrote: The entries for text/html in /etc/mailcap and ~/.mutt/mailcap on my ~amd64 Gentoo Linux system are $ grep ^text/html ~/.mutt/mailcap /etc/mailcap /home/romildo/.mutt/mailcap:text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal; copiousoutput; description=HTMLText ^ /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html /etc/mailcap:text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html Although the entry for links does not have the field copiousoutput, it is not being used for viewing an html attachment from the mutt attachments menu, as it should be. Instead it is using the lynx entry. I am using Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15, Gentoo 1.5.21-r1). Any clues? needsterminal? This option is already in the mailcap entry. *exactly*. remove it. With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html it does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal it also does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput it still does not work: Invoking autoview command: links '/tmp/mutt.html' is diplayed indefinitly in the status line, and I have to type Ctrl-C in order to get rid of it. After that the screen is shown with garbage: [-- Autoview using links '/tmp/mutt.html' --] ^[[?1001s^[[?1000h^[)0^[7^[[?1000h^[[1;1H^[[2J^[[1;1H +^[[2;1H Segue o cartaz da palestra com nova data. [...] So it seems that there is bug somewhere. Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl update = emerge cannot create executables
On Monday 08 November 2010 18:28:58 Pau Peris wrote: Please, is there any developer/geek who can help to solve the situation? Why do i get : [code]/usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: Exec format error [/code] I did nothing than updating the system, also /etc/make.conf (which i took a look before getting errors) seems ok. I can't say why you *suddenly* started getting problems, but it may indicate that there is some hardware problem which caused a fs corruption. So, check the obvious for errors like hard drive (smartmontools) and memory (memtest86+). If I were you I would follow the instructions in the previous link I sent you, and use that to rebuild portage and tool chain before you finish off rebuilding the packages that were giving you errors. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] suidperl missing after update to perl 5.12.2-r2
Am 08.11.2010 15:02, schrieb Dan Johansson: Hi, After updating from dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r8 to dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r2 I am no missing the suidperl binary. Some of my perl scripts _need_ this feature. Any suggestion on how to be able to execute perl-scritps suid (except downgrade to 5.8.8). Hello, have you run perl-cleaner --phall after the update? If not, do so. Greetings Sebastian Beßler
[gentoo-user] gtkam crashes. Anyone else have this problem?
Hi, I'm using gtkam to download my pics from my camera. It works OK for a bit but after a few downloads it crashes on me. Here is some info: r...@smoker / # emerge -pv gtkam These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] media-gfx/gtkam-0.1.17 [0.1.16.1] USE=gimp nls -debug -gnome 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB r...@smoker / # emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc67 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.4.4, glibc-2.11.2-r3, 2.6.35-gentoo-r12 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.35-gentoo-r12-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2500+-with-gentoo-1.12.14 Timestamp of tree: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:15:01 + app-shells/bash: 4.1_p7 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11 dev-lang/python: 2.6.5-r3, 3.1.2-r4 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1 sys-apps/sandbox:2.3-r1 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.65-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.8.5-r4, 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.4-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10 sys-devel/make: 3.81-r2 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.35 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ACCEPT_LICENSE=* CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y --backtrack=30 FEATURES=assume-digests buildpkg distlocks fixpackages news parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ http://www.cyberuse.com/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo ftp://chi-10g-1-mirror.fastsoft.net/pub/linux/gentoo/gentoo-distfiles/ ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo ftp://lug.mtu.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/gentoo/source/ ftp://mirrors.rit.edu/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.llarian.net/pub/gentoo ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/gentoo/ ftp://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.cs.uni.edu/ ftp://ftp.wallawalla.edu/pub/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org; LANG=en_US LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed LINGUAS=en_US en MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--timeout=600 PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage I have also tried the newer version of gtkam that is in portage and it fails in the same way. I downgraded to see if it was a bug in that one version or something else. I'm wondering if it is something that gtkam is built on or uses to get the pictures that is actually failing but I'm not sure. Any ideas? Anyone else having this same problem? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: netbook
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:29 on Monday 08 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: 5. Got kids younger than 12? Don't let them find out you have one I have a 13 year old that will be in medical school, before he turns 17. It's for him. Very bright and beautiful young (Christian) man (got his looks and brains from his mom).. Kids pilfering my computers and electronics has been the norm since diapers I hear you :-) I've got one just like him and his little sister who's much better behaved. She likes Facebook, his thing is DeviantArt -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
On Monday 08 November 2010 18:16:00 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:59 on Monday 08 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, OK, I want a 10 or so, netbook that'll run windows and gentoo on dual boot. I'd like to stay under $200, but in no way over $300.00 . w...@ireless and wired Ethernet are a must. I can't advise you much on what to buy, I'm on the other side of the planet. But I can give you tips about what I've found workable with mine (Acer Aspire One A110). 1. 600 pixels vertically is not enough, not even with Ubuntu and Unity. Too many dialogs just don't fit and it'll take a while for them all to get fixed. Most web pages are virtually unusable. 1024 x 768 is the minimum I would recommend anyone to use. I agree on this, although I do happily use mine with 600 vertical. (9 screen) 2. Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also not enough and the write performance is pathetic. You must have a lesser then then I've got? I have quite decent read/write performance with the 16GB SSD in mine (Asus EEE901) I think it's a shame there aren't more Netbooks with SSDs. Too many manufacturers and users tend to see these as small laptop- replacements. These are meant for webbrowsing, email,... NOT to use to do your doctorate... 3. From what I've seen, both wired and wireless is pretty much the norm, using bog standard interface hardware. The only thing to watch out for is that you are not unlucky enough to get one with below-average Linux support (like the Ath5k 2 years ago). I'd be hard-pressed to find one without wired and wireless ethernet. I would, however, also add Bluetooth to the list. Being able to link wirelessly to your mobile for mobile internet is useful. 4. Make sure you are comfortable with the keyboard. They tend to be 80% of full-sized so there's not much margin for error. Use it as much as possible before you buy. Small hands help (don't have those) but also an extra keyboard could help here already. 5. Got kids younger than 12? Don't let them find out you have one :-) Best tip of all, although the smaller keyboard seems to be designed with kids' hands in mind :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:11 on Monday 08 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: 2. Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also not enough and the write performance is pathetic. You must have a lesser then then I've got? I have quite decent read/write performance with the 16GB SSD in mine (Asus EEE901) I think it's a shame there aren't more Netbooks with SSDs. Too many manufacturers and users tend to see these as small laptop- replacements. These are meant for webbrowsing, email,... NOT to use to do your doctorate... In all fairness to Acer, the SSDs in the A110 were early generation and improvements have been made. In the consumer grade, Intel is not too bad, Samsung is c...@p. And the early JMicron controllers were atrocious. Server grade disks are improving by leaps and bounds, but they are expensive and I don't see this filtering down to netbooks at this point in time yet. But I would be ecstatically happy to be proved wrong! Your use-case for netbooks is spot-on too - a laptop-replacement it is not. My kids use mine for surfing and I use it when on standby and want to go out visiting. All I need is an xterm - 1024x600 makes a fine terminal. With wired, wireless and a 3G dongle I have all bases covered. Plus it fits in the wife's handbag :-) no need to carry a big backpack with a huge Dell inside. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] [OT xfce pager] Xfce pager jacked up after updates
Anyone know which applet controls how the virtual desktop pager appears under Xfce The one called `workspaces' appears to be it, but it looks to be set as it always was... with a default 4 desktops. But the actual pager is now 4 rectangles all end to end on the panel with the large words `workspaceN' writen in them... No windows or applications are visible there as they used to be. No way to drag stuff around as there was prior to this update. eix shows no special xfce pkgs dealing specifically with the pager, so I guess its part of the xfce desktop? But grep seems to indicate there isn't any file in xfce desktop with the string pager in it: qlist xfce-base/xfdesktop|grep pager nada I also am noticing a little blank floating something... a panel I guess since its context menu shows panel related menu items and I can add launchers etc to it... But I see no way to get rid of it. I like just one at the bottom. The bigger problem of the two is the pager that is something I use constantly for reference and to move things around when needed. There were 11 xfce pkgs updated along with 25 others. The full list appears below with the xfce pkgs listed first Mon Nov 8 10:13:14 2010 xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.7.3 Mon Nov 8 10:58:52 2010 xfce-base/exo-0.5.4 Mon Nov 8 11:19:57 2010 xfce-base/garcon-0.1.3 Mon Nov 8 11:21:30 2010 xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.7.4 Mon Nov 8 11:26:34 2010 xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.7.4 Mon Nov 8 11:27:54 2010 xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.7.1 Mon Nov 8 11:31:07 2010 xfce-base/xfwm4-4.7.1 Mon Nov 8 11:33:28 2010 xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.7.4 Mon Nov 8 11:39:22 2010 xfce-base/thunar-1.1.4 Mon Nov 8 11:42:21 2010 xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.7.1 Mon Nov 8 11:44:33 2010 xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.7.2 ---- ---=--- - Mon Nov 8 07:57:53 2010 sys-apps/sdparm-1.05 Mon Nov 8 09:58:05 2010 media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.10 Mon Nov 8 09:59:44 2010 media-libs/libdvdread-4.1.3_p1168 Mon Nov 8 10:01:06 2010 media-libs/libdvdnav-4.1.3_p1168 Mon Nov 8 10:03:56 2010 sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.29 Mon Nov 8 10:04:16 2010 sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.35 Mon Nov 8 10:07:03 2010 dev-python/pygobject-2.26.0-r1 Mon Nov 8 10:11:56 2010 app-portage/eix-0.22.4 Mon Nov 8 10:14:12 2010 app-emacs/emacs-w3m-1.4.417_pre20101104 Mon Nov 8 10:15:00 2010 dev-libs/libatasmart-0.17 Mon Nov 8 10:19:08 2010 sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.74 Mon Nov 8 10:25:52 2010 sys-block/parted-2.3 Mon Nov 8 10:27:04 2010 media-libs/libass-0.9.11 Mon Nov 8 10:28:46 2010 x11-terms/xterm-266 Mon Nov 8 10:33:50 2010 app-text/poppler-0.14.5 Mon Nov 8 10:35:02 2010 dev-libs/libunique-1.1.6 Mon Nov 8 10:37:03 2010 x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.11-r2 Mon Nov 8 10:55:01 2010 media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101107 Mon Nov 8 11:00:34 2010 x11-libs/libnotify-0.4.5 Mon Nov 8 11:01:43 2010 x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.4.0-r1 Mon Nov 8 11:04:48 2010 sys-auth/polkit-0.96-r2 Mon Nov 8 11:07:48 2010 sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.2-r4 Mon Nov 8 11:09:44 2010 sys-fs/udisks-1.0.1-r2 Mon Nov 8 11:14:05 2010 sys-apps/gnome-disk-utility-2.30.1
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On 8/11/2010, at 5:56pm, Dale wrote: ... I have not been able to get grub to see the LABELS yet but I'm going to post fstab so that you have a example that is known to work and not from a guide: /dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime1 2 /dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 /dev/disk/by-label/data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1 I'm not paying enough attention to know whether your above fastab works or not, but /dev/disk/by-label/* seems a relatively ugly way of doing things. I'm pretty sure it's not intended that you use that format, and I have no idea whether it's supposed to work that way. All the guides say to use the word LABEL. That's not a variable or anything - it's the literal word you're supposed to use. I have no idea why a guide should be considered unreliable, but the below is not fabricated - it is from an actual working system: $ grep -ve ^# /etc/fstab LABEL=boot /boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 2 LABEL=/ / ext4noatime 0 1 LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,ro,users 0 0 LABEL=space /mnt/space ext4noatime 0 3 shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 $ To me this seems cleaner than your format, and it's certainly fewer characters! Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Dale wrote: I was thinking the same thing. I figure something worked for a while and then had some sort of a error and then switched to something else that was slow. I don't know the inner workings of opengl so I am just guessing. I just know it worked for a while then didn't until I told it to switch again. It is weird tho. I did do this last night tho. I upgraded my kernel and updated to the latest nvidia drivers. I checked it again a few minutes ago by playing a video and it is still working like it should. At almost full screen my CPU was running at about 40 to 50% which is about like it was a while back. So, I figure it was either some sort of kernel issue or even more likely a nvidia driver issue. I'm just hoping it keeps working like this. Those little wheels are turning pretty good now. Dale :-) :-) Well, I worked on my air compressor and played in the dirt in my garden for a while and now I get this again: 2 frames in 7.6 seconds = 0.263 FPS 2 frames in 7.7 seconds = 0.259 FPS I don't know what the issue is but it is getting on my nerves. I have not even logged out of KDE and it is slow again. The only thing I have done was to downgrade gtkam to see if the old version crashes too. Nothing else has been messed with since this morning. Any ideas at all? I'm about ready to do a emerge -e world and see if that helps. It's getting cool so I could use the heat anyway. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Dale writes: Well, I worked on my air compressor and played in the dirt in my garden for a while and now I get this again: 2 frames in 7.6 seconds = 0.263 FPS 2 frames in 7.7 seconds = 0.259 FPS D'ouch! I don't know what the issue is but it is getting on my nerves. I have not even logged out of KDE and it is slow again. The only thing I have done was to downgrade gtkam to see if the old version crashes too. Nothing else has been messed with since this morning. Any ideas at all? I'm about ready to do a emerge -e world and see if that helps. It's getting cool so I could use the heat anyway. Anything in syslog, Xorg.log or dmesg about drm suddenly being turned off? I'd get back into the garden and turn the air compressor to reverse. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DNSSEC
On 8/11/2010, at 9:01pm, Kyle Bader wrote: Nothing here to steal, unless hacks can jump an air gap firewall(ha ha) Sorry to go off on a tangent but I couldn't help pointing out a common misconception: you don't need to worry about security because you assume you don't have anything worth protecting. A machine with internet access alone is an asset that many adversaries would be happy to abuse. James doesn't actually say where he's located, but assuming he's in a similar situation to most of us: I understood that unix boxes with only a domestic broadband internet connection were now considered extremely low-value to hackers. If one only needs a compromised box with a domestic broadband internet connection then one can seed dodgy movie files on Rapidshare or whatever, and obtain multiple compromised Windows boxes far more easily than a single Linux box. I would imagine that there are plenty of poorly configured rented servers and virtual hosts in datacentres, on the other hand, which would be far more attractive. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
Stroller wrote: On 8/11/2010, at 5:56pm, Dale wrote: ... I have not been able to get grub to see the LABELS yet but I'm going to post fstab so that you have a example that is known to work and not from a guide: /dev/disk/by-label/boot/bootext2noatime1 2 /dev/disk/by-label/root/reiserfsdefaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/swapnoneswapsw0 0 /dev/disk/by-label/portage/usr/portageext3defaults0 1 /dev/disk/by-label/home/homereiserfsdefaults1 1 /dev/disk/by-label/data/datareiserfsdefaults0 1 I'm not paying enough attention to know whether your above fastab works or not, but /dev/disk/by-label/* seems a relatively ugly way of doing things. I'm pretty sure it's not intended that you use that format, and I have no idea whether it's supposed to work that way. All the guides say to use the word LABEL. That's not a variable or anything - it's the literal word you're supposed to use. I have no idea why a guide should be considered unreliable, but the below is not fabricated - it is from an actual working system: $ grep -ve ^# /etc/fstab LABEL=boot /boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 2 LABEL=/ / ext4noatime 0 1 LABEL=swap noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,ro,users 0 0 LABEL=space /mnt/space ext4noatime 0 3 shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 $ To me this seems cleaner than your format, and it's certainly fewer characters! Stroller. Well, it does work since it booted as recent as last night when I updated my kernel. I found that somewhere and just copied that to mine. It may be the long way but it does work. I may edit it and try it your way but since mine works and I don't move things to much, not sure it really matters. I sometimes like to get things from a working system, such as what you posted that you use, because sometimes what is in a guide somewhere may not apply to what I am using or even my OS. May be some subtle difference that causes me grief. Since you use Gentoo, yours is a good example to go by. Should have had that a few months ago when I was changing mine over. ;-) It would have saved me some typing as you pointed out. lol Wouldn't happen to have LABELS in your grub.conf file would you? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
On Monday 08 November 2010 22:08:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:11 on Monday 08 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: 2. Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also not enough and the write performance is pathetic. You must have a lesser then then I've got? I have quite decent read/write performance with the 16GB SSD in mine (Asus EEE901) I think it's a shame there aren't more Netbooks with SSDs. Too many manufacturers and users tend to see these as small laptop- replacements. These are meant for webbrowsing, email,... NOT to use to do your doctorate... In all fairness to Acer, the SSDs in the A110 were early generation and improvements have been made. In the consumer grade, Intel is not too bad, Samsung is c...@p. And the early JMicron controllers were atrocious. Server grade disks are improving by leaps and bounds, but they are expensive and I don't see this filtering down to netbooks at this point in time yet. But I would be ecstatically happy to be proved wrong! The one in mine gives me better performance then the ones that are usually stuck inside consumer-grade laptops and the SD-card reader supports the faster SD-cards as well, which helps. Your use-case for netbooks is spot-on too - a laptop-replacement it is not. My kids use mine for surfing and I use it when on standby and want to go out visiting. All I need is an xterm - 1024x600 makes a fine terminal. With wired, wireless and a 3G dongle I have all bases covered. Plus it fits in the wife's handbag :-) no need to carry a big backpack with a huge Dell inside. I've seen women carry handbags that could hold a 17 laptop easily, btw :) But I know what you mean. I tend to use mine for: - webbrowsing - email - odd document / taking notes - viewing the pictures from the camera - random entertainment (movies/games/...) while stuck inside during holidays
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On 8/11/2010, at 9:34pm, Dale wrote: ... Wouldn't happen to have LABELS in your grub.conf file would you? Nope. I believe this requires an initramfs - see the February 2009 thread, `Using root=LABEL= in grub.conf` for more details of that. I seem to rather have an aversion to initramfses. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
Am 08.11.2010 22:34, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Monday 08 November 2010 22:08:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 22:11 on Monday 08 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: 2. Those SSDs are shite. Get a mechanical drive. 8G is also not enough and the write performance is pathetic. You must have a lesser then then I've got? I have quite decent read/write performance with the 16GB SSD in mine (Asus EEE901) I think it's a shame there aren't more Netbooks with SSDs. Too many manufacturers and users tend to see these as small laptop- replacements. These are meant for webbrowsing, email,... NOT to use to do your doctorate... In all fairness to Acer, the SSDs in the A110 were early generation and improvements have been made. In the consumer grade, Intel is not too bad, Samsung is c...@p. And the early JMicron controllers were atrocious. Server grade disks are improving by leaps and bounds, but they are expensive and I don't see this filtering down to netbooks at this point in time yet. But I would be ecstatically happy to be proved wrong! Nope, netbooks with good hardware are still called subnotebooks and are sold for ten times the price of a netbook ;) The one in mine gives me better performance then the ones that are usually stuck inside consumer-grade laptops and the SD-card reader supports the faster SD-cards as well, which helps. Another argument against SSD: They are usually very low in capacity. James wants to dual-boot. I don't know about Windows 7 but I found it very hard to keep Windows XP below 10 GB and still usable. The SSD in Acer Aspire Ones is 8 GB. Do they even sell Netbooks with SSD and Windows preinstalled? As an advice from an Aspire One user: It helps when you have a big mothership machine available. I keep photos, videos, portage tree, ccache and other non-essentials on a desktop machine, shared with NFS over WLAN. When I make a smaller `emerge --update --deep world`, WLAN and the SSD are fast enough (if you have enough RAM, you might want to try tmpfs). For larger actions like KDE updates, I hook it up with ethernet and also mount /var/tmp/portage via NFS to spare the SSD from too much I/O. BTW: KDE-4 without semantic-desktop works great on these, even with 512 MB RAM. :) It runs without Firefox or OpenOffice, though. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Well, I worked on my air compressor and played in the dirt in my garden for a while and now I get this again: 2 frames in 7.6 seconds = 0.263 FPS 2 frames in 7.7 seconds = 0.259 FPS D'ouch! I don't know what the issue is but it is getting on my nerves. I have not even logged out of KDE and it is slow again. The only thing I have done was to downgrade gtkam to see if the old version crashes too. Nothing else has been messed with since this morning. Any ideas at all? I'm about ready to do a emerge -e world and see if that helps. It's getting cool so I could use the heat anyway. Anything in syslog, Xorg.log or dmesg about drm suddenly being turned off? I'd get back into the garden and turn the air compressor to reverse. Wonko I checked messages, Xorg.log and dmesg, nothing out of the ordinary in there. Just me plugging up my camera, ntpd setting the clock and such nothingness as that. I can't think of any other logs that I can check either. That air compressor has been giving me fits. First a dirt dobber built him a nice house in it and then that caused a wire to burn out on a run capacitor. I evicted the wasp a week or so ago and fixed the wire today. That bug better not try to move in again either. I'll evict him next time with bug spray. Make it a permanent eviction. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
Stroller wrote: On 8/11/2010, at 9:34pm, Dale wrote: ... Wouldn't happen to have LABELS in your grub.conf file would you? Nope. I believe this requires an initramfs - see the February 2009 thread, `Using root=LABEL= in grub.conf` for more details of that. I seem to rather have an aversion to initramfses. Stroller. Yea, I don't like those either. I think grub2 supports it but I'm not sure. I think that is what I read but it may be just on a todo list or something. Maybe one day. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:34:08 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, it does work since it booted as recent as last night when I updated my kernel. I found that somewhere and just copied that to mine. It may be the long way but it does work. I may edit it and try it your way but since mine works and I don't move things to much, not sure it really matters. Labels are stored in the filesystem, so LABEL= should always work. /dev/disk/by-label/ is created by udev rules, so it won't work if anything goes wrong with your udev rules or if you have to boot with init=/bin/sh. -- Neil Bothwick Tagline stealing is the sincerest form of flattery. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:11:01 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: 4. Make sure you are comfortable with the keyboard. They tend to be 80% of full-sized so there's not much margin for error. Use it as much as possible before you buy. Small hands help (don't have those) but also an extra keyboard could help here already. This isn't such a problem with 10 netbooks where the keyboards tend to be around 92% of full size. On the other hand, my old Eee PC 900 didn't work well with my fat fingers (the fat fingers are on both hands, not just the other one). -- Neil Bothwick If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:34:08 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, it does work since it booted as recent as last night when I updated my kernel. I found that somewhere and just copied that to mine. It may be the long way but it does work. I may edit it and try it your way but since mine works and I don't move things to much, not sure it really matters. Labels are stored in the filesystem, so LABEL= should always work. /dev/disk/by-label/ is created by udev rules, so it won't work if anything goes wrong with your udev rules or if you have to boot with init=/bin/sh. Guess I better change that soon then. While udev has been working pretty good here lately, we never know what may happen tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT xfce pager] Xfce pager jacked up after updates
On 11/08/2010 01:12 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Anyone know which applet controls how the virtual desktop pager appears under Xfce The one called `workspaces' appears to be it, but it looks to be set as it always was... with a default 4 desktops. But the actual pager is now 4 rectangles all end to end on the panel with the large words `workspaceN' writen in them... No windows or applications are visible there as they used to be. No way to drag stuff around as there was prior to this update. When I see strange stuff like that after an upgrade, I try beginning with a clean home directory, i.e. with none of the configuration stuff left over from the previous version. The easiest way to do that, I think, is to create a throw-away user (mine is named tester) and make sure his ~ directory is empty except for .bashrc and the usual suspects. You'll need to configure his xfce4 desktop from scratch, of course. If that fixes the problem, then start copying over your old .xfce4 config stuff one file at a time until tester's desktop breaks. Et voila :)
[gentoo-user] wicd problem -- gnome panel applet has gone
I am a happy user of wicd, but recently a problem has arisen. The daemon starts and runs and at home it connects me to the wireless network. The problem is that the applet icon no longer appears in my gnome panel. As I result I have no easy way to connect to another network. I checked main-menu--system--startup-applications and Wicd Network Manager Tray is checked. I looked in /var/log and see no errors or warnings but also do not see any indication that the Manager tray is started. Any help would be appreciated thanks, allan gottlieb
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd problem -- gnome panel applet has gone
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:48:09 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I am a happy user of wicd, but recently a problem has arisen. The daemon starts and runs and at home it connects me to the wireless network. The problem is that the applet icon no longer appears in my gnome panel. Try running wicd-gtk from a terminal and you'll see the pygobject errors. This occurs with 2.26.0 but is fixed with the -r1 release. -- Neil Bothwick What is a free gift ? Aren't all gifts free? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DNSSEC
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:23 on Monday 08 November 2010, James did opine thusly: you can write a wiki page that helps others immensely. But just be informed upfront about what it's going to take. wink wink, nudge nudge. OK. ;-) My first spot of advice would be to use unbound as your caching servers - it's stupendously bloody fast. It's free as in beer and free as in freedom, and also keeps up with cns which is neither (and costs an arm and a leg). Plus the developer is very responsive to bugs and features. unbound does the basics and does them well, there are aspects of DNS caching that it doesn't do (stuff that nobody bothers with anyway) Don't use bind as your auth server unless you like pain. That thing is a pig, and a temperamental one at that. It's saving grace is that it's a reference implementation and can always be relied upon to be extremely RFC-compliant. We use it, not because we like it, but because it has one killer feature we absolutely need - ACLs PowerDNS is a fine auth server. If it suits your needs I'd recommend you try it first. I don't know about it's DNSSEC abilities or feature roadmap - it's been a long time since I looked closely at it. Lack of ACLs is what killed PowerDNS for us, I still feel sad about that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] netbook
On 8/11/2010, at 10:02pm, Florian Philipp wrote: ... Another argument against SSD: They are usually very low in capacity. James wants to dual-boot. I don't know about Windows 7 but I found it very hard to keep Windows XP below 10 GB and still usable. The SSD in Acer Aspire Ones is 8 GB. I tried to do a DVD rip under Windows recently, and was nearly out of space ( 2gig remaining) on a 20gig partition. I managed to free up about 8gig I think by deleting two games from Steam (they were free - I do not support or endorse Steam), but I was still using 10gig with almost nothing installed on the system. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic on manually built kernel
On 8/11/2010, at 10:39pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:34:08 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, it does work since it booted as recent as last night when I updated my kernel. I found that somewhere and just copied that to mine. It may be the long way but it does work. I may edit it and try it your way but since mine works and I don't move things to much, not sure it really matters. Labels are stored in the filesystem, so LABEL= should always work. /dev/disk/by-label/ is created by udev rules, so it won't work if anything goes wrong with your udev rules or if you have to boot with init=/bin/sh. Thanks! I approximately figured this when I made my original posting, but don't really feel confident enough about /dev and udev rules to express it properly. That's why I just said I'm not sure the configuration is even supposed to work. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd problem -- gnome panel applet has gone
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:48 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, Allan
Gottlieb did opine thusly:
I am a happy user of wicd, but recently a problem has arisen.
The daemon starts and runs and at home it connects me to the wireless
network.
The problem is that the applet icon no longer appears in my gnome panel.
As I result I have no easy way to connect to another network.
I checked main-menu--system--startup-applications
and Wicd Network Manager Tray is checked.
I looked in /var/log and see no errors or warnings but also do not see
any indication that the Manager tray is started.
How lucky for you I ran into this this morning and found the fix :-)
Lemme guess, you have pygobject installed with USE=-introspection? wicd-gtk
is segfaulting, you'll see it in dmesg
Sync and update to pygobject-2.26.0-r1. There's a one-line patch that needs to
be applied. Here it is if your mirror is behind the times:
From 97774cb149c5b03d5ef82a5af3f19e2ce4d79d0b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: John (J5) Palmieri jo...@redhat.com
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:43:31 +
Subject: return NULL instead of -1 which fixes crash when introspection is
turned off
* see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631158
---
diff --git a/gi/pygi.h b/gi/pygi.h
index 551bb6f..da71d28 100644
--- a/gi/pygi.h
+++ b/gi/pygi.h
@@ -155,7 +155,7 @@ static inline PyObject *
pygi_get_property_value (PyGObject *instance,
const gchar *attr_name)
{
-return -1;
+return NULL;
}
static inline gint
--
cgit v0.8.3.1
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
walt wrote: On 11/08/2010 01:20 PM, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: I was thinking the same thing. I figure something worked for a while and then had some sort of a error and then switched to something else that was slow. I don't know the inner workings of opengl so I am just guessing.I just know it worked for a while then didn't until I told it to switch again. It is weird tho. I did do this last night tho. I upgraded my kernel and updated to the latest nvidia drivers. I checked it again a few minutes ago by playing a video and it is still working like it should. At almost full screen my CPU was running at about 40 to 50% which is about like it was a while back. So, I figure it was either some sort of kernel issue or even more likely a nvidia driver issue. I'm just hoping it keeps working like this. Those little wheels are turning pretty good now. Dale :-) :-) Well, I worked on my air compressor and played in the dirt in my garden for a while and now I get this again: 2 frames in 7.6 seconds = 0.263 FPS 2 frames in 7.7 seconds = 0.259 FPS Is it possible that something slowly fills up RAM so your system has to start swapping? KDE used to have a 'system monitor' thingy that displays usage of all the various system resources like RAM and swap and CPU. I always have the equivalent gnome applet displayed on the gnome panel and it's alerted me to countless similar bugs over the years. According to top, gkrellm and cat /proc/meminfo there is no swap in use. I have 2Gbs of ram and have swappiness set to 20 or 30. I rarely use swap unless I am compiling something huge, OOo comes to mind, or have a LOT of images open with GIMP. I did check to make sure tho. My swappiness did get magically changed once before. I wish it was something that easy tho. Still open to ideas. I started a emerge -e world. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On 11/08/2010 01:20 PM, Dale wrote: Dale wrote: I was thinking the same thing. I figure something worked for a while and then had some sort of a error and then switched to something else that was slow. I don't know the inner workings of opengl so I am just guessing.I just know it worked for a while then didn't until I told it to switch again. It is weird tho. I did do this last night tho. I upgraded my kernel and updated to the latest nvidia drivers. I checked it again a few minutes ago by playing a video and it is still working like it should. At almost full screen my CPU was running at about 40 to 50% which is about like it was a while back. So, I figure it was either some sort of kernel issue or even more likely a nvidia driver issue. I'm just hoping it keeps working like this. Those little wheels are turning pretty good now. Dale :-) :-) Well, I worked on my air compressor and played in the dirt in my garden for a while and now I get this again: 2 frames in 7.6 seconds = 0.263 FPS 2 frames in 7.7 seconds = 0.259 FPS Is it possible that something slowly fills up RAM so your system has to start swapping? KDE used to have a 'system monitor' thingy that displays usage of all the various system resources like RAM and swap and CPU. I always have the equivalent gnome applet displayed on the gnome panel and it's alerted me to countless similar bugs over the years.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mutt attachment viewing
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 04:15:39PM -0200, José Romildo Malaquias wrote: With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html it does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal it also does not work: [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html ''/tmp/mutt.html'' --] With the entry: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput What if you use links -dump %s I think if you use a textmode browser you need to tell it to dump the parsed output to stdout for mutt to be able to deal with it. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd problem -- gnome panel applet has gone
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:48 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, Allan Gottlieb did opine thusly: I am a happy user of wicd, but recently a problem has arisen. The daemon starts and runs and at home it connects me to the wireless network. The problem is that the applet icon no longer appears in my gnome panel. As I result I have no easy way to connect to another network. I checked main-menu--system--startup-applications and Wicd Network Manager Tray is checked. I looked in /var/log and see no errors or warnings but also do not see any indication that the Manager tray is started. How lucky for you I ran into this this morning and found the fix :-) Lemme guess, you have pygobject installed with USE=-introspection? wicd-gtk is segfaulting, you'll see it in dmesg Not quite. I have +introspection and there is no mention of wicd-gtk in dmesg ... however Sync and update to pygobject-2.26.0-r1. Fixes the problem. Thank you. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd problem -- gnome panel applet has gone
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:48:09 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I am a happy user of wicd, but recently a problem has arisen. The daemon starts and runs and at home it connects me to the wireless network. The problem is that the applet icon no longer appears in my gnome panel. Try running wicd-gtk from a terminal and you'll see the pygobject errors. This occurs with 2.26.0 but is fixed with the -r1 release. The -r1 does indeed fix the problem. However I had run wicd-gtk and did not see any pygobject errors. Just deprecation warning that are still there with the -r1 version. Thank you and alan very much for your prompt reply, which sent me to the -r1 version and a return of the wicd applet. allan
[gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
This is OT, but you guys have proven extremely insightful over the years and I would love to hear what you think. I've been working on a particular software project for a long time. I'd like to hire a team of developers to take over the project, but I consider the code to be valuable and I'd like to keep the whole of it secure, even from my own developers. I was thinking I could do this by using some technique to obfuscate the true intention of the code modules. Maybe a recorded series of search/replaces for variable names which are reversed once code editing is complete? Has any software been made available to aid in an endeavor like this? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Get RPC: Program/version mismatch if I set OPTS_RPC_MOUNTD and OPTS_RPC_STATD in /etc/conf.d/nfs
Hi everyone, I am getting a strange error when I try to mount my nfs partitions. In /etc/conf.d/nfs I have: OPTS_RPC_MOUNTD=-p 32767 OPTS_RPC_STATD=-p 32765 -o 32766 I set these two options so that I can use nfs with iptables. If don't set these two variables, I wind up not being able to mount the nfs partitions because the ports for statd and mountd are selected at random. With the variables set, I get the following error: # mount -o vers=3 10.1.1.1:/nfs /mnt/temp -v mount: no type was given - I'll assume nfs because of the colon mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Nov 8 20:47:30 2010 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=3,addr=10.1.1.1' mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049 mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 32767 mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Program/version mismatch mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 32767 mount.nfs: portmap query failed: RPC: Program/version mismatch mount.nfs: Operation not permitted Does anyone know why this is happening? How can I make nfs and iptables play nice?
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
On 8 November 2010 20:52, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: This is OT, but you guys have proven extremely insightful over the years and I would love to hear what you think. I've been working on a particular software project for a long time. I'd like to hire a team of developers to take over the project, but I consider the code to be valuable and I'd like to keep the whole of it secure, even from my own developers. I was thinking I could do this by using some technique to obfuscate the true intention of the code modules. Maybe a recorded series of search/replaces for variable names which are reversed once code editing is complete? Has any software been made available to aid in an endeavor like this? Not an answer to your question but how are those developers going to work on your software if you obfuscate it first? Seems very counter productive. Not to mention that it seems like a perfect way to introduce bugs in your code base. Wouldn't it be much simpler to have your developers sign an NDA? In general, I would not worry too much about your idea being stolen, it's the implementation that makes it worth something. And implementing an idea takes a lot of hard work. Cheers, Hilco
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
This is OT, but you guys have proven extremely insightful over the years and I would love to hear what you think. I've been working on a particular software project for a long time. I'd like to hire a team of developers to take over the project, but I consider the code to be valuable and I'd like to keep the whole of it secure, even from my own developers. I was thinking I could do this by using some technique to obfuscate the true intention of the code modules. Maybe a recorded series of search/replaces for variable names which are reversed once code editing is complete? Has any software been made available to aid in an endeavor like this? Not an answer to your question but how are those developers going to work on your software if you obfuscate it first? Seems very counter productive. Not to mention that it seems like a perfect way to introduce bugs in your code base. The internal function of each code module wouldn't be obfuscated of course, but the variable names and similar could be. The idea is that I would define a specific spec to which each module of code is written. This is very uncharted territory for me. Is this something that just isn't done? Does everyone just hope each of their developers are honest people? Wouldn't it be much simpler to have your developers sign an NDA? In general, I would not worry too much about your idea being stolen, it's the implementation that makes it worth something. And implementing an idea takes a lot of hard work. The idea is nothing special, you're right, it's the implementation, and the software is the implementation in this case so I need to protect it. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Get RPC: Program/version mismatch if I set OPTS_RPC_MOUNTD and OPTS_RPC_STATD in /etc/conf.d/nfs
Apparently, though unproven, at 07:03 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, Andrey F. did opine thusly: Hi everyone, I am getting a strange error when I try to mount my nfs partitions. In /etc/conf.d/nfs I have: OPTS_RPC_MOUNTD=-p 32767 OPTS_RPC_STATD=-p 32765 -o 32766 I set these two options so that I can use nfs with iptables. If don't set these two variables, I wind up not being able to mount the nfs partitions because the ports for statd and mountd are selected at random. With the variables set, I get the following error: # mount -o vers=3 10.1.1.1:/nfs /mnt/temp -v mount: no type was given - I'll assume nfs because of the colon mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Nov 8 20:47:30 2010 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=3,addr=10.1.1.1' mount.nfs: prog 13, trying vers=3, prot=6 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 13 vers 3 prot TCP port 2049 mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=17 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 15 vers 3 prot UDP port 32767 mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Program/version mismatch mount.nfs: prog 15, trying vers=3, prot=6 mount.nfs: trying 10.1.1.1 prog 15 vers 3 prot TCP port 32767 mount.nfs: portmap query failed: RPC: Program/version mismatch mount.nfs: Operation not permitted Does anyone know why this is happening? How can I make nfs and iptables play nice? Have you used tcpwrappers instead of iptables? I'd give that a try (unless you need some functionality of iptables and aren't just merely restricting access). Then you can remove the added complexity you had to introduce. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
Apparently, though unproven, at 07:56 on Tuesday 09 November 2010, Grant did opine thusly: This is OT, but you guys have proven extremely insightful over the years and I would love to hear what you think. I've been working on a particular software project for a long time. I'd like to hire a team of developers to take over the project, but I consider the code to be valuable and I'd like to keep the whole of it secure, even from my own developers. I was thinking I could do this by using some technique to obfuscate the true intention of the code modules. Maybe a recorded series of search/replaces for variable names which are reversed once code editing is complete? Has any software been made available to aid in an endeavor like this? Not an answer to your question but how are those developers going to work on your software if you obfuscate it first? Seems very counter productive. Not to mention that it seems like a perfect way to introduce bugs in your code base. The internal function of each code module wouldn't be obfuscated of course, but the variable names and similar could be. The idea is that I would define a specific spec to which each module of code is written. This is very uncharted territory for me. Is this something that just isn't done? Does everyone just hope each of their developers are honest people? Your average developer will look at that and say to himself Fuck that. I'm going somewhere else. 20 year olds might not. They don't have the experience to judge. Wouldn't it be much simpler to have your developers sign an NDA? In general, I would not worry too much about your idea being stolen, it's the implementation that makes it worth something. And implementing an idea takes a lot of hard work. The idea is nothing special, you're right, it's the implementation, and the software is the implementation in this case so I need to protect it. Protect it from what? From people you hired? Simpler to change your hiring policies. Look, you gotta trust someone in this world. As a boss, like every other boss out there, you gotta trust your staff. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
Am 09.11.2010 05:52, schrieb Grant: This is OT, but you guys have proven extremely insightful over the years and I would love to hear what you think. I've been working on a particular software project for a long time. I'd like to hire a team of developers to take over the project, but I consider the code to be valuable and I'd like to keep the whole of it secure, even from my own developers. I was thinking I could do this by using some technique to obfuscate the true intention of the code modules. Maybe a recorded series of search/replaces for variable names which are reversed once code editing is complete? Has any software been made available to aid in an endeavor like this? - Grant About what programming language are we talking? For Java and Javascript, there is a range of obfuscators available. For C/C++, I don't think it is really necessary. Can't you simply put your stuff into a binary-only library? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
