Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May

[David Hardy]

I've been on the list for a few years now and wouldn't dream of heckling Ben or anyone else here;  way in awe of you guys.  I've been running Linux since RH 6.1 but what I know can fit on the business end of a pencil compared to you all.
In exile from Vermont (temporarily, I hope) my new gig is in Woostuh Mass as a sys admin running OpenVMS and Tru64 UNIX (on an Alpha server) while stepping in the you-know-what from time to time with the Microsoft stuff, as they run that on servers and desktops, too.
Any Tru64 folks out there on this list?Hope to see you at the HossTraders event again this year.Dave Hardy(formerly of Montpelier)On 4/27/06, 
Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What : HecklingWho  : Ben ScottWhere: ever possibleDay  : everyTime : alwaysFor the May meeting of SLUG (NH Seacoast Linux User Group), Ben Scottwill be heckled.  He will cover a bit of history of being heckled,
basic heckling, talk about a few different popular heckling methods,and show how one can be heckled both virtually and physically byGNHLUG members.What is Heckling?  Heckling is best described as "Quick, easy, and
open means of having fun at Ben's expense".  It lets anyone have agood time with minimal effort.  You can generally just type in yourheckles and send them to Ben the way you want it to look, and theGNHLUG mail list software makes it happen.  Heckling is the humor
behind GNHLUG, one of the most pedantic, off-topic groups in theworld.Ben Scott is our local Hecklee.  He has somehow become one of the mostheckled of GNHLUG's members/leaders, although he isn't quite sure how
that happened.  His day job is getting heckled by GNHLUG members withnothing better to do, and he spends his nights wishing that onlypeople could forget about him the way they have Derek and hisSqueegee.
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Re: GNHLUG SLUG - Wiki - 8 May

[David Hardy]

Wow.
 
I will save this email for future reference.  It delivers a solid and comprehensive summary of the HOWTO stuff we all work and play with.
 
And here I sit, with Reflection running my connections to the VAX and the Tru64 Alpha box from this Windows machine, well, above my right shoulder, a sagging shelf of OpenVMS, Tru64, and local site-specific docs threaten to bury me.  Also a can of Air Wick, the Lavender Fields aroma, which was here when I got here;  I didn't buy it.  

 
Second day on the gig, tech-savvy boss, and the bullpen here of three network/Windows guys, one telco guy, and one soon-to-leave VMS consultant.  Life is good.
 
Except it ain't Vermont and it ain't the Granite State.  And today's steady rain is at least wetting down the remains of three major fires here in the Haht of the Commonwealth.
 
Thanks much for your thoughts.
 
Regahds,
 
Dave  
On 5/2/06, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"David Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been on the list for a few years now and wouldn't dream of heckling Ben> or anyone else here;  way in awe of you guys.A, shucks :)> I've been running Linux since RH 6.1 but what I know can fit on the
> business end of a pencil compared to you all.Well, not to spill a secret or anything, but everyone else on thislist started at the same point :) There are days when I feel like anidiot[1] compared to those I work with[2].  Knowledge, like poverty, can
often be a matter of perspective.  In otherwords, you can make amillion dollars a year, but if you overspend, you're still broke, andstill feel like you don't make "enough".  It's the same withknowledge.  The more you know, the more you realize you have to learn :)
Most of us accumulated our knowledge following a simple 7 stepprogram (you can try this at home kids:)1. We read.2. We read a lot.3. We read multiple mediums and multiple sources.4. We attempt to apply what we read to reality.
5. We read some more.6. We correct for our mistakes7. Goto 1.After several iterations of that, we usually break down and asksomeone for help, whether it's on this list or another.Note that we do in fact ask for help, but that it's usually the *last*
thing we do[3].  If you've been on this list or any technical mailinglist for a while, you'll notice a pattern among the posters there.- The more experienced posters  (Group A)- pose questions about rather arcane or complex issues; things
  the average list member might not have any knowledge of, any  need to know, or something just so far past the realm of what  the "average" would think of, they'd never consider asking a
  question like that.- usually get a few responses of the form "have you tried this?",  or "What if you went about it a slightly different way." With  the occasional "Wow, that's a tough one? Why do you need
  that?!"- The younger/lesser experienced folks (Group B)   - ask FAQs or rather simple questions.   - get multitudes of answers, many duplicates or variations of the same theme.
   - are usually answered by the group aboveFrom this pattern, we can deduce several things:- The more experienced posters   - know the simple stuff, therefore don't have to ask   - know where/how to get the answers to most questions quickly
 without having to ask   - probably read/experiment a lot   - know how to use google effectively- The younger/lesser experienced folks   - don't know the simple stuff yet   - don't know where/how to get the answers quickly
   - haven't read (enough)   - probably haven't experimented much   - probably haven't googledAlso note:- Everyone has been a member of Group A at sometime or other- Everyone *will* be a member of Group A for some amount of time for
   every new community they join- Upward mobility is not only possible, but encouraged!- The time it takes to move from Group B into Group A is largely   dependant on:- How closely other already attained knowledge pertains to this
  new group.  (i.e. lots of experience with general UNIX sysadmin lends  greatly to the knowledge required to understanding Apache and  Samba.  Knoweldge of Windows, greatly aids configuring Samba
  even more.)- How quickly/often one reads/learns/experiments- How motivated the individual is in moving to Group AFootnotes:--[1] Like the time I couldn't figure out why I had a routing problem,
   only to have pointed out by Ben that a) I configured a default   route, and b) I didn't have anything at that address :)[2] I work with a bunch of MIT alumni.  One of them is a   "mathematician" because the EE/CS curriculum at MIT was "so easy
   it was boring".[3] Of course, everyone is guilty of asking the occasional stupid   question first without following the 7 steps above, regardless of   whether it's due to a brain-fart, impatience, or whatever :)
--Seeya,Paul

Re: Greetings!

[David Hardy]

I'm up late, kind of, and welcome you to this mailing list, Joshua.  And to
New England and the great Granite State of New Hampshire! Compared to
Buffalo, though, you are now in the tropics.

I've belonged to his list for a few years now, and while still a comparative
n00b, I have learned a ton of good stuff from these folks.  They are simply
amazing.  Every conceivable question or issue comes up with regard to Linux
and open source and networks and so forth, and within minutes, literally,
there are often several excellent answers and solutions.

I don't often contribute, being in awe, mainly, and only ask questions in
utter desperation sometimes.  But they do their best to get back with
something accurate right away and they, well, almost all of them, have a
sense of humor.  Sometimes wicked humor.

Anyway, welcome!

Dave Hardy
West Montpelier, Vermont

There is another LUG here in Vermont:  http://www.uvm.org/vague/

You may want to check them out, too.  But I must say, the GNHLUG group is
about ten times more active, thus far.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joshua Ronne Altemoos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> I am a new follower of this mailing list. I am a twenty-something guy
> who recently moving to Milford, New Hampshire from Buffalo, New York.
> I figured I would drop a line and say "Hi", so that in the future I
> respond to a e-mail, or post something, everyone isn't like "Who the
> frack is he?" If anyone wants to know anything else about myself, feel
> free to ask.
>
> Have a great day!
>
>
>
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Re: Hamfest in Ubuntu News; Local Community team ?

[David Hardy]

I'd like to help out with any of this if I could, as a former HossTraders
attendee at the Hopkinton, NH site.  Saw maddog there, but way too shy and
awe-struck to talk, even though a fellow former DEC slave.

Here's the deal:  I work and live in Montpeculiar, Vermont, but we have some
Linux shops and several budding localized businesses that emphasize open
sauce and serving local community needs.  I'm not a Linux guru by any
stretch, and have yet to get an official ham license, but a huge fan and
supporter of open sauce, amateur and shortwave radio and local sustainable
communities.

Is there some way there could once again be cooperation between the great
Granite State and the Green Mountain State, perhaps a mutually convenient
site for this sort of enterprise?

(We have VAGUE here, as many of you probably know, and potentially more
interested folks.)

You have my email:  my landline is 802-229-3012.



On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Bill Ricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >   It was also reported that the NEAR-Fest organizers seemed to be less
> >  receptive to the computer stuff, wanting to focus more on traditional
> >  radio stuff.
>
>
> True.  Perception of recent Hoss Traders was there were more big
> layouts of small buckets of PCI cards and cables than of RF
> connectors, and aside from a couple commercial ham dealers selling NEW
> there were no radios, and all the good used ham gear was going to eBay
> because there weren't any RADIO buyers only junk computer buyers  -- a
> self fulfilling prophecy, once the radios (are perceived to) go to
> ebay, they buyers don't show. New Mgt announcing "more radios, less
> computers" was self-fulfilling also, and so radios *were* there to be
> bought, the buyers were there to buy, and deals were made.  But still
> some computers. I bought a 35mm film scanner.
>
> And GNU/Linux is recognized as having been Ham-friendly from early on,
> e.g. having an AX.25 driver in kernel, and the DIY ethic of
> GNU/Linux/FLOSS hackers and
> radio/electronics/robotics/kinetic-art/Make-magazine hackers is in the
> same direction.  GNHLUG giving out the Ham linux disk certainly helped
> on keeping that perception current..
>
> > But it's also been reported that they may be coming around on that score.
>
> Hams need computers too !  Just don't want to drive the radio
> resellers back to eBay again.
>
> >   Of course, if you someone wants to show up and spread the word
> >  anyway, that's perfectly fine.  Indeed, more power to you!  :)  There
> >  are prolly still a few attendees who would benefit; we just decided
> >  there weren't enough to be worth it anymore.
>
> Linux isn't a closely held open secret any more, that's true.
>
> >   One note: We discovered that if you advertise anything for "free" at
> >  hamfest, you will get cleaned out by people taking seven of everything
> >  just because it's "free".
>
> :-)
>
> >  They might not even own a computer; they
> >  don't care, they see it as a moral imperative to take free stuff.  If
> >  you try to limit to one per person, they'll come around seven times.
>
> If there's a limit, it's obviously good !
>
> >  We solved this problem by loudly advertising the $1 fee for the discs
> >  we were burning, and keeping the "free" status of the pre-made discs
> >  quiet.
>
> :-)
>
> If I can get a couple boxes of out-of-date Gutsy CDs, I was thinking
> of Johny Appleseeding, giving them to folks selling computers for them
> to give WITH the older systems as upgrades.
>
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Re: Computer repair shop

[David Hardy]

And here's another laptop question:

I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop that originally was bought/owned by
MIL and had XP on it.  She didn't want it after awhile and I immediately
took it and threw Fedora Core 4 on it.  Now, naturally, she wants it back,
and now, an internet connection. Problem:  I scraped the hard drive (or
thought I did) completely in anticipation that she'd want the Windows os
back.  Meanwhile the Windows CD disappeared (not at all uncommon for here;
things disappear all the time, usually *my* stuff), and so I got a Ubuntu CD
and tried to install that: no joy in Mudville during Mud Season, natch.  (It
would appear to install and then freeze, and on boot-up the XP boot screen
appears, despite my reformatting the drive.)  So now, no os, either Ubuntu,
Fedora or Windows.

I will now have to either buy another XP license or find some way of both
installing Ubuntu and then finding a wireless card that will work with it.

Any suggestions, as always, are appreciated.

Thanks.

(Does anyone out there have a desperate need for either a MIL or a
15-year-old angst-driven daughter?  I will sell cheapest.)



On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Toshiba has a 'authorized repair depot' store in Nashua..  Computer
> Hut or something?
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Karl Hergenrother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > My wife's 3 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop has had intermittent
> charging
> > problems.  I have replaced its battery, but that didn't help.  Right now
> it
> > will not charge at all.  I'm fairly sure that the problem is in the
> socket
> > on the computer which accepts the charger plug.  Those things must take a
> > beating over the years.  Can someone suggest a good repair shop on the
> > Nashua/Lowell area?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Karl
> >
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Re: Computer repair shop

[David Hardy]

Ubuntu 7.10 and hit the "Install" button.  (I'd asked for the max of two CDs
and tried them both.)  I can do it again and report more exactly on what
came up, but basically nada. Two folder icons and no ability to do anything
at all.



On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Sarunas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> David Hardy wrote:
> > And here's another laptop question:
> >
> > I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop that originally was bought/owned
> > by MIL and had XP on it.  She didn't want it after awhile and I
> > immediately took it and threw Fedora Core 4 on it.  Now, naturally, she
> > wants it back, and now, an internet connection. Problem:  I scraped the
> > hard drive (or thought I did) completely in anticipation that she'd want
> > the Windows os back.  Meanwhile the Windows CD disappeared (not at all
> > uncommon for here; things disappear all the time, usually /my/ stuff),
> > and so I got a Ubuntu CD and tried to install that: no joy in Mudville
> > during Mud Season, natch.
>
> You did use the "alternate" Ubuntu install CD, didn't you?
>
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Re: Firefox Download Day

[David Hardy]

A faster processing would take place by sending that number to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I can guarantee it.  The dragonhawk email address
is being investigated by Microsoft agents working through the Better
Business Bureau, Northeast Region.  Take heed accordingly.



On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> The Mozilla organization is running a promotional campaign to set a
> >> world record for the number of downloads in a single day.
> >
> > Do I get a free browser if I agree to help in their campaign?
>
>  No, you still have to pay for your copy.  Please send your credit
> card number to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll make sure your order is
> processed quickly.
>
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Re: HP releases AdvFS under GPL-2

[David Hardy]

I've done simultaneous sys admin work with Tru64 UNIX, VAX/VMS and OpenVMS
from versions 3.5 through 7.1, along with Windoze from 3.1 through Server
2003 and XP. And Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 and the desktop versions from
6.1 through 9.0.  Plus network, desktop and DBA support.

But now I'm about to turn 55 and so am utterly worthless.

Thus working for minimum wage at an indie bookstore and on the old farm
here.

Them was interesting dayz, but now not worth a pee-hole in the snow as fah
as jobs or any kind of career now.

At least around here in northern Vermont.

If I have the bad taste to crab about it to other Linux people, I get dissed
and dismissed.

So be it.

You all have my best wishes and hopes that you can continue to carry the
ball.  I've given up. Hundreds of resumes and dozens of interviews having
amounted to zip.

Old Farmer Dave
Pavilion Farm (1806)
West Montpeculiar, Vermont

P.S.  And my many thanks to those of you who have been ever-ready to answer
questions and problems over the years;  you will not be forgotten.







On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Coleman Kane wrote:
> >On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 13:48 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> >> If so, it might be handy since ZFS isn't coming to Linux any time
> >> soon, AFAICT, and some apps react poorly to NFS.  Would it be too
> >> cynical to suspect that HP simply doesn't want to maintain it anymore
> >> but has customers who like it?
>
> >I would imagine that your last paragraph is pretty close to the truth.
> >Facing the possibility of either losing all AdvFS clients to other
> >systems (Solaris or Linux), they made the play to put it out under the
> >GPL.
>
> A number of HP customers with Tru64 systems were waiting for HP to
> put AdvFS and cluster support into HP-UX.  I doubt they were very pleased
> with HP's decision to can the project.  HP also canned most of the people.
> I suspect several customers moved into the "We'll run Tru64 as long as the
> machine still boots" camp after that.
>
> It may well be that HP is doing this to try to keep some of that customer
> base.  HP-UX has not done too well lately, AFAIK, so perhaps they're paying
> more attention to their big system customers.
>
> >Maybe it is indicative of a larger play by HP into the Linux ring?
>
> Perhaps.  HP-UX has some Veritas file system code, they can't put that
> into Linux, so AdvFS is certainly the best choice for that.
>
> While I worked on NFS within Tru64, I always appreciated UFS.  Small,
> fast (especially with Prestoserve battery-backed RAM card for metadata),
> very good locality and often would take a memory-mapped file that was
> written randomly and leave a contiguous file behind.  That's how
> the linker wrote a.out files, so it was a useful feature.
>
> The standard UFS drawbacks of large directories (don't do that) and waiting
> for fsck (Tru64 has very good uptime) were not that big a deal to me. UFS
> got along with NFS a lot better than AdvFS did.
>
> Big customers like AdvFS appreciated the multi-volume support (heck,
> TOPS-10
> did that in 1970), snapshots, and resizing.
>
> It will be interesting to see what happens.  When HP decided I was no
> longer
> necessary (too few NFS bug reports, did my job too well?) there were only a
> few people with AdvFS skills left.
>
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Re: HP releases AdvFS under GPL-2

[David Hardy]

Thanks, Jerry;

I hear you loud and clear;  it is obvious to me that my age is a factor but
stability, maturity and reliability are not, in this job market.

The job market for IT up here is pathetic, thanks to mass layoffs a few
years ago from IBM, IDX, and other places, plus a hiring freeze and then job
cuts in state government, and hundreds of displaced workers all scrambling
for a handful of entry-level gigs.  Most remain un- or under-employed in
jobs like mine, working for minimum wage or maybe a bit more at places like
Walmart and Rite-Aid.

Some of us have done contract work off and on, but on a very uneven basis
and with no insurance or any other bennies.

So here I am, college degree, grad school, thirteen years of IT, decorated
combat vet, etc., and I work a cash register selling books or packing them
up or unpacking them for nine bucks an hour and when I'm not doing that I'm
doing stoop labor on this farm that would challenge a 20-year-old.  Lotta
people far worse off than me, so I'm not all weepy for myself but just a tad
angry that we're being written off so soon as worthless.

Sorry for the OT rant, folks.  I think I'm done here.

And thanks again for the years of Linux tips and advice, because, by jiminy,
that's all we have running on our little network here at the farm.

Old Farmer Dave
Pavilion Farm (1806)
West Montpeculiar, Vermont



On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> (This is a bit OT, but...)
> Dave,
> I don't know what the job market for IT is in northern Vermont, but I
> have seen guys get jobs down here in the Boston area.  I've been
> contracting for 20 years, and only had 2 bad years after HP acquired
> Compaq and released all contractors. The job people were advising us to
> retrain. Instead I worked for the IRS for a while, had a couple of
> consulting jobs (one in a county jail in Maine :-). In my case I was
> able to go back to my group at HP (for half the rate I had been
> before).  Unfortunately many companies don't like to hire older people
> on a full-time basis. I know 2 people at HP with somewhat similar
> skills to yours were laid off and were able to get jobs within weeks.
> The bottom line here is that there are jobs available for people with
> your skills, but you may need to go further to find them, or you may
> need to change how you are looking. In other words, don't give up the
> search, use your networking skills to find some available jobs in your
> area.  Professional headhunters will tell you how to construct your
> resume to hide your age, if need be.
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:20:00 -0400
> "David Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've done simultaneous sys admin work with Tru64 UNIX, VAX/VMS and
> OpenVMS
> > from versions 3.5 through 7.1, along with Windoze from 3.1 through Server
> > 2003 and XP. And Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 and the desktop versions
> from
> > 6.1 through 9.0.  Plus network, desktop and DBA support.
> >
> > But now I'm about to turn 55 and so am utterly worthless.
> >
> > Thus working for minimum wage at an indie bookstore and on the old farm
> > here.
> >
> > Them was interesting dayz, but now not worth a pee-hole in the snow as
> fah
> > as jobs or any kind of career now.
> >
> > At least around here in northern Vermont.
> >
> > If I have the bad taste to crab about it to other Linux people, I get
> dissed
> > and dismissed.
> >
> > So be it.
> >
> > You all have my best wishes and hopes that you can continue to carry the
> > ball.  I've given up. Hundreds of resumes and dozens of interviews having
> > amounted to zip.
> >
> > Old Farmer Dave
> > Pavilion Farm (1806)
> > West Montpeculiar, Vermont
> >
> > P.S.  And my many thanks to those of you who have been ever-ready to
> answer
> > questions and problems over the years;  you will not be forgotten.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Coleman Kane wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 13:48 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> > > >> If so, it might be handy since ZFS isn't coming to Linux any time
> > > >> soon, AFAICT, and some apps react poorly to NFS.  Would it be too
> > > >> cynical to suspect that HP simply doesn't want to maintain it
> anymore
> > > >> but has customers who like it?
> > >
> > > >I would imagine that your last paragraph is pretty close to the truth.
> > > >Facing the possibility of either losing all AdvFS cli

Re: HP releases AdvFS under GPL-2

[David Hardy]

Gee, I sure hope room and board was included.

Wait:  worked for the IRS for a while?

(dialing favorite hit man...dingding...ding...freaking answering
machine;  ain't these people EVER at their desks??!!)

May I ask: what county in Maine?  Spent six months there in Beautiful Bangor
after finishing Air Force boot camp and security police school...kinda cold
on them winter midnight shifts...but we, and this is so blatantly OT, played
poker in the nuclear weapons storage area gate shack while one or the other
of us took turns with the senior NCO in charge doing beer and wine runs to
the all-night store downtown.  Place reeked of pot smoke, too, and when we
got the heads up from the main base, we hadda open all the winders and
scurry around looking like dead-serious Cold Warriors.  Got away with it the
whole time, too.

 1971 for you damn kidz out there...

And now back to our regularly scheduled open sauce discussion in  this, our
year of endless war in the Middle East...

Serious question:  favorite new Linux distro?  Which will do media and amaze
and stun the otherwise Winders crowd at various sites of various sizes?
Anything from desktop to enterprise level.  Working some consultant stuff in
the Northeast Kingdom soon and also looking to do IT support in the local
school systems...

Thanks, folks, you are all wonderful, as always.

Old Farmer Dave
Pavilion Farm (1806)
West Montpeculiar, Vermont

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Instead I worked for the IRS for a while, had a couple of
> > consulting jobs (one in a county jail in Maine :-).
>
> Interesting pairing.  Did one lead to the other and was room
> and board included?  :-)
>
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Re: HP releases AdvFS under GPL-2

[David Hardy]

Wow, that's a 1040 every minute!  Crazy!

Don't know about the alleged chopper pilot but Old Farmer Dave here worked
the door gunner slot on Cobra gunships and slicks and then was "promoted" to
air crew gunner on AC-130 Spectre gunships, aka Puff the Magic Dragon.  The
armed forces apparently are still using these ancient birds of prey Over
There, along with B52s, which, amazingly, are not scheduled to be retired
until 2050, long after I'm gone, so their lifespan will have exceeded my
own.  A person hasn't lived until they've been on the ground within a mile
or two of a full B52 bomb strike of 500- and 1,000-pounders.  Three of us
were squatting on the ground with bleeding ears and noses and actually
pitied whoever was directly underneath that thing.

Nine years later I was in charge of a university's program of selling DEC
Rainbows out of its bookstore.  No hard drive, two floppy drives, and two
operating systems.  Green screen.  Used it as a remote terminal for a while
to monitor the VAX systems in Marlborough from home in Worcester.  Also
logged into the old Boston Computer Society boards, sadly now defunct.



On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:59:32 -0400
> "David Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Gee, I sure hope room and board was included.
> >
> > Wait:  worked for the IRS for a while?
> >
> > (dialing favorite hit man...dingding...ding...freaking answering
> > machine;  ain't these people EVER at their desks??!!)
> >
> > May I ask: what county in Maine?  Spent six months there in Beautiful
> Bangor
> > after finishing Air Force boot camp and security police school...kinda
> cold
> > on them winter midnight shifts...but we, and this is so blatantly OT,
> played
> > poker in the nuclear weapons storage area gate shack while one or the
> other
> > of us took turns with the senior NCO in charge doing beer and wine runs
> to
> > the all-night store downtown.  Place reeked of pot smoke, too, and when
> we
> > got the heads up from the main base, we hadda open all the winders and
> > scurry around looking like dead-serious Cold Warriors.  Got away with it
> the
> > whole time, too.
>
> York County Jail in Alfred, Maine.
> I worked in the Code and Edit department of the IRS. This is the group
> that takes in paper tax returns, reviews them for completeness, and
> marks them up for input.  We had to do at least 60 1040s per hour. Not
> my cup of tea, but my group had 3 engineers, another group had a guy
> who claimed he was a Viet Nam helicopter pilot (but I could have
> challenged him on this because he couldn't have been).
>
>
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Re: Favorite distros (was: Re: HP releases AdvFS under GPL-2)

[David Hardy]

Very interesting;  thanks much for the info.  I would not have figured this
distro, but that's mea culpa because I know zip about it and have no
experience with it.  (experience has been exclusively Red Hat EL, Fedora and
Ubuntu, thus fah, as we say up here.)

Also Gnome exclusively, but more than willing to try out KDE.

Interesting also about the graphics drivers included, although games are not
a priority, either for me personally or some of the organizations thinking
about going open sauce here.  (the more the merrier!)

Thanks also for that link, Bill.  Will do due diligence and all that happy
hoss pucky ASAP.

Old Farmer Dave




On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Bill Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:59:32 -0400,
> David Hardy wrote:
>
> > Serious question:  favorite new Linux distro?  Which will do media
> > and amaze and stun the otherwise Winders crowd at various sites of
> > various sizes? Anything from desktop to enterprise level.
>
> Mandriva 2008.1 Spring PowerPack. Includes non-free (AIS & AIB) bits
> such as ATI & NVidia drivers, Cedega, and Fluendo multimedia codecs.
> Provides KDE *and* Gnome *and* XFCE (as well as IceWM, Fluxbox and
> several other WMs), so if you prefer one DE over the others, chances
> are that it's in there. While Mandr{ake,iva}'s default orientation has
> always been KDE, unlike some other distros I've seen they do not IMHO
> give short shrift to the other DEs in their implementations of them.
>
> The 2008.1 Free edition contains only free (AIS&B) packages on the
> install media, so no proprietary drivers "out of the box", but the
> non-free (AIS, not AIB) bits can be easily added post-install from the
> distro's official "non-free" repositories. A good single-page rundown
> on all of the 2008.1 versions, the repos, and on what distinguishes
> Mandriva from most other distros is the 2008.1 Reviewers Guide:
>
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2008.1_Reviewers_Guide
>
> The various Mandriva One 2008.1 live CDs - of which there are several,
> because each contains one DE and a subset of the supported languages
> available - also provide the ATI & NVidia proprietary drivers, as well
> as OOo, Firefox, the GIMP, Java and Flash plugins, and a selection of
> apps that is appropriate for that DE (i.e. Kontact on the KDE ones, but
> Evolution & Pidgin on the Gnome ones). The main shortcoming of the One
> CDs, IMHO, is an almost complete lack of games in the live environment;
> this may or may not matter to you, depending on your audience(s).
>
> Just my $0.02USD ...
>
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Re: Redhat 5 Cluster suite

[David Hardy]

You go, Kenny.  I know it can be done; it's just the mess one has to go
through to get it all working.  If RH support is being paid for, then one of
their RHCEs should have had the experience and training by now to help out.
I was just a RHCT and finally deprived of the opportunity to make it happen
with RHEL 4, but no use crying over spilt milk.

Please let us know the particulars when you and the organization get it
going;  I'd love to be able to try this again somewhere.

Old Farmer Dave




On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Kenny Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Bruce Labitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Kenny Lussier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Sorry if this is a re-post, but I sent it yesterday, and I haven't seen
>>> it come through yet
>>>
>>> I have been tasked with some clustering work, and I have run into a few
>>> snags. Is anyone familiar with the RHEL 5 clustering suite? The situation
>>> that I have is that I have a system that needs to be set up as a failover
>>> cluster. There are two services running (http and ftp) that are essential
>>> services, so if either of them die, the system needs to fail over to the
>>> other system. The snag is that I have a third service (rinetd) that isn't
>>> important, and I just want to have it re-started if it dies. I can set it up
>>> so that rinetd is re-started, but then if the box fails over, rinetd isn't
>>> started on the other system. If I tie rinetd to the the IP address resource
>>> or to one of the essential resources, then the whole system fails over if
>>> rinetd dies (when the cluster manager detects a failure in rinetd, it
>>> re-starts the service, but fails over the box anyway).
>>> Has anyone dealt with anything similar to this?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Kenny
>>> 
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>>>
>> Yes, it was a repost.  Did you read this?
>>
>>
>> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/csgfs/browse/4.6/Cluster_Suite_Overview/s1-service-management-overview-CSO.html
>>
>> It sounds like you want high availability.  There is a description of the
>> fail over service in the above link.  I am sorry I have no experience in
>> this.  I was recently looking into clusters for massively parallel
>> computation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bruce
>>
>
> I have read all of the RH docs for the cluster suite and GFS.
> Unfortunately, they only cover vanilla failover. In my case, I have two
> services that need to fail over the whole box, and one that just needs to be
> re-started. We have RH support, but the cluster suite is only covered with
> the "Advanced Platform" support, and the decision was made that we would get
> the support for it if it does what we need (except that we can't get it to
> do what we need without the support).
>
> Oddly, I never got either of the e-mails that I sent to gnhlug-discuss, but
> I got the replies to it.
>
> Thanks,
> Kenny
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VA's open source, guys; how to use their sw in smaller practices here in northern NE?

[David Hardy]

http://www.vistasoftware.org//about/index.html
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Re: [OT] Re: UNIX license plate

[David Hardy]

Vermont also requires both plates, but I still see vehicles all the time
with just the rear.

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Shawn O'Shea  wrote:

>
>
>> I don't know how much they enforce it, but if you have the newer red and
>> white MA plates (as opposed to the old green and white ones), MA requires
>> you to display them both.
>> >From http://www.mass.gov/rmv/faq/registration.htm#r4
>>
>> *My green registration plate is faded. How do I get a new one?*
>>
>> If you have a single green plate, you may not order a replacement. If the
>> plate is not legible, you must obtain red and white "Spirit of America"
>> plates. You may go to any full service RMV 
>> centerto complete this 
>> transaction.
>>
>>
>> *If I have the red and white "Spirit of America" plates, do I have to use
>> both plates?
>> *
>> Yes, you *must* display both plates, one on the front and one on the rear
>> of your vehicle. Place the year of expiration decal on the rear plate in the
>> upper right-hand corner to cover the prior year decal.
>>
>> -Shawn
>>
>
>
> And again, enforcement aside, so does NH.
>
> http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/registration/faq.html#A11
>
> Does NH require 2 license plates to be displayed?
> Yes.
>
> -Shawn
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more on CentOS

[David Hardy]

*
*
The Future of CentOS and Criteria For Choosing a Business
DistributionBy Caitlyn
Martin 
August 5, 2009 | Comments:
18




http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/08/the-future-of-centos-and-crite.html
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Re: [GNHLUG] GNHLUG is turning 15! Let's have a party!

[David Hardy]

*Only if maddog sponsors (somehow) Open BAH  (plus local accomodations and
following huge farmers' breakfast;  I can help cook!)  Also, some of us
would be coming from Points North, probably a minority, nevertheless...**
*
*Seriously, this list has been a wonderful resource for me for around nine
or so of those years, as it has for many others.*
*
*
*Time to pahty like it's 1999!*
*
*
*Old Farmer Davy*
*Pavilion Farm(1806)*
*West Montpeculiar, Vermont*
*
*
*
*
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:
> >> I also think it would be neat to have the gathering on the anniversary
> >> date.
> >
> > Well, to throw a little gasoline into the discussion:
>
>  Excellent!  A spirited discussion is a sign of intellectual
> vitality, and can lead to new insights and increased mutual
> understanding!
>
> > Just to show that moving it a few days in one direction or another might
> > not make much difference when averaged out over the last 15 years.
>
>  I think you make an eloquent argument and valid points, and concede
> that we don't *have* to have the party on the 19th.
>
>  According to the Doodle schedule/poll thingy that Seth set-up
> (thanks!), it looks like Mon 26 Oct is the favorite.
>
> http://doodle.com/ysxe3gm9cdf3rdi5
>
>  So let's pencil that in.  Now we just need to figure out where to
> have it.  :-)
>
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Re: [GNHLUG] Where should the GNHLUG 15th Birthday party be?!?

[David Hardy]

*I'd suggest a pub-type joint (and forget the accomodations;  I will make
the wife do the DD thang.)  Any Tex-Mex joints or Italian on the way?**
*
*Or maybe Red Hat or somebody could cater something for us...?*
*
*
*
*
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> Who  : You!  Your fiends!  Everybody!
> What : Party for GNHLUG's 15th Birthday
> Date : Mon 26 Oct 2009
> Time : 6 PM ish to whenever
> Where: That's the question!
>
>  After extensive discussion[1], it has been decided that we will
> celebrate the 15th anniversary of GNHLUG's first meeting on Mon 26
> Oct.  I suggested some place in Manchester, but didn't have anything
> better or more specific than that.  Ideas have not been forthcoming.
> I know we've got a bunch of people on this list who know local
> eateries.  What do people suggest?!?  Come on, let's have a party!!
> :-)
>
>  People who have expressed interest include:
>
> * Jon 'maddog' Hall
> * Me
> * Mike Kazin
> * Seth Cohn
> * Jim Kuzdrall
> * Alan Johnson
> * Ted Roche
> * Bayard Coolidge
> * JIM_E
> * Cole Tuininga
>
>  If we get enough sign-ups this might qualify as an actual Event!  ;-)
>
>  Posting messages is still free.  Hit that [Reply] button -- you know
> you want to!  ;-)
>
> [1] Well, not really, but we did have a poll with more than two
> responses.    The date can
> probabbly be changed if enough other people speak up and want
> something else.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: [GNHLUG] GNHLUG is turning 15! Let's have a party!

[David Hardy]

Same here.
And only five days before...

*All Hallows Eve.*
*
*
*Pumpkin Ale, anyone???
*
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, David Hardy 
> wrote:
> > Only if maddog sponsors (somehow) Open BAH ...
>
>  I don't know about that, but I could probabbly be persuaded to buy a
> round of drinks...
>
>  ;-)
>
> -- Ben
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Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

[David Hardy]

This discussion reminds me of a number of IT job interviews I had where the
tech questions asked of me were delivered in a smug, condescending tone, and
if I didn't know every single facet of their infrastructure when I walked
through their door, then I must be a dolt and a fool.  (I only had 13 years
in IT across multiple hw and sw platforms.)   At one interview right here in
 town, the interviewer actually smirked and grinned at his manager when I
didn't know some arcane and obsure sw app.  After 90 minutes of this,, I
never heard from them again.  Good.  I wouldn't want to work with such
people anyway.
The archness and smug attitude is way too prevalent among IT professionals
and that is one reason I said goodbye to all that.

YMMV



On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Bruce Labitt
wrote:

> As the person who may or may not have been the object of the OP, allow
> me to make a comment.
>
> I found the linked document to be both condescending and informative.
> For a while I was quite irritated.  I think I'm over it now.
>
> There are better ways to ask a question so that one can get good
> answers.  As others have noted, usually ill framed questions come about
> because the OP doesn't have quite have a handle on what is going on.
> Often these questions can be exploratory in nature. I don't think these
> kinds questions should be crapped upon.  How else can one learn?  And
> yes, I have regretted hitting the send button many a time, where I've
> ill framed a question, but, hey I get over it, so others can too.
>
> So if someone doesn't want to help, don't.  If you can't be bothered,
> that's ok, I don't mind.  If you'd like to help, please do.  I'm sure
> the questioner would appreciate a helpful answer, even if it includes a
> request for clarification.
>
> -Bruce
>
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Re: Interesting article,

[David Hardy]

Between everyone here I continue to learn a helluva lot about what's going
on with Linux vs. everything else, and am always grateful for it,
particularly for the input from md and Ben recently.  So, while having
nothing much to contribute at this time other than congratulations and
thanks for such intel and opinion,  my best wishes from northern Vermont as
the snow begins? to melt away and the sugar sap is running steady.

Old Farmer Davy
Pavilion Farm (1806)
West Montpeculiar

VAX/VMS and OpenVMS ex-operator, sys admin, and "infrastructure analyst" and
Alpha fan (hey, remember the AlphaServers?  running VMS, NT or Red Hat while
using practically zip for RAM or disk space???) (engineers, developers and
sys admins went first to NT then to India then to Linux)

DEC and HP-UNIX sys admin
WinNT sys admin
Windows Servers sys admin
Red Hat sys admin
Unemployed (until md needs a bodyguard and/or door gunner for his travels
worldwide)


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> O.K., I will wade in here. :-)
>
> For the most part, Ben is right.  Vendors who completely control both
> hardware and software can make the "best" products, if your definition
> of "best" is a limited market of items, and you are willing to pay for
> them.  MVS, VMS, Digital Unix.  Rock solid, stable, scalable.  REALLY
> EXPENSIVE.
>
> A lot of Microsoft's problems have to do with drivers that come from
> different vendors, trying to control different controllers that fit into
> buses that are not that well documented.  One mistake in a driver
> (inside the monolithic kernel) and BAM!  Lockup and blue screen.  I am
> amazed that Microsoft's eco-system can actually boot at all.
>
> >> Apple could have
> >> crushed MS by now if they had gone with the GPL attitude instead of
> >> picking BSD so they could keep all their toys to themselves.
>
> >Yah, I'm not buying that.  If all you needed was the GPL, Linux
> >would already have crushed Microsoft.
>
> Ben, I think you are under-estimating your own argument about inertia.
>
> Inertia is all about acceleration, not really speed.  In 1991 Microsoft
> was already going 50,000 mph and accelerating and Linux started from
> zero, with almost zero acceleration.  In 1994 a lot of the vendors
> seemed as if they were going to give the server market to WNT.  There
> were a lot of people saying that "Unix was dead".
>
> After twenty years Microsoft is still accelerating, but I think it is
> accelerating at a slower pace, and FOSS is accelerating at a faster
> pace, but has still not caught up.  Then there is distance traveled, or
> "speed over time" (in this case, installed base).  It may take a very,
> very long time before FOSS has the same installed base, much less
> "crushing Microsoft".
>
> Apple has existed for about the same time as Microsoft, and still has
> about the same market penetration as twenty years ago.  Its acceleration
> is a lot slower, and more or less allowed it to keep the same desktop
> and server market share (or maybe lost server market share in that
> time).
>
> >(When Linux first came out, you also had a fleet of commercial Unixes,
> >Novel, several BSDs, OS/2, BeOS, and all sorts of other bit player
> >platforms.  Today it's all Microsoft, with Apple and Linux nipping at
> >their heels.
>
> Sadly, and from a "choice" and "research" viewpoint this is true.  But
> the fragmentation meant that unless any of them reached critical stage,
> they would be just what you said "bit players", and would have died
> anyway.
>
> >  Absolutely correct!  However, the fact that's it's a hard problem to
> >solve doesn't mean it isn't a problem.  Indeed, the fact that it's a
> >hard problem is why it hasn't been solved yet, and why the best idea
> >anyone has come up with is sheer persistence over time.
>
> Yupolutely!  And in May of 1994 I came back from meeting Linus Torvalds
> and made a presentation to my Digital Unix management at DEC that had as
> a final bullet on the last page:
>
> o Linux is inevitable!
>
> They asked me what that bullet meant, and I said that no one could stop
> Linux.  My management laughed.
>
> Now Digital Unix is dead and most of them work for Red Hat.
>
> What I meant by "Linux is inevitable" was that the concept of designing
> a FOSS ecosystem with community was inevitable.  "Linux" itself may
> migrate, fork, evolve, etc. but the model is here, and it will
> accelerate.
>
> When I worked for Bell Labs in 1982 I heard someone say "I do not know
> what the next operating system will be, but I bet it will be based on
> Unix."  I answered "I don't know what the next operating system will be,
> but I bet it will be called Unix", meaning that the operating system
> would evolve maintaining the same name.  I was only wrong by a couple of
> letters. :-)
>
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Re: Linux for "cloud computing": Request for Input

[David Hardy]

Also Process Software's MultiNET, which we were using circa '98-2000 at one
site here in Vermont.



On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> >There is still some good stuff happening with VMS, for example if you
> >are an hp software partner, you can get ssh access to a virtual
> >machine running OpenVMS 8.4 EFT.
>
> I did not mean to imply that there was not "good stuff happening with
> VMS"but VMS is and was not DECnet.
>
> Even when I was there you could see the writing on the wall for DECnet
> as a protocol.  TCP/IP was available for VMS, first through Wollongong
> (boy, I have not thought about them in years!) and then through DEC
> itself with TCP/IP Services for VMS (then TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS,
> now HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS).
>
> BUT people still had LAT boxes, and wanted to use them.  And LAT boxes
> did not speak TCP/IP.  So there were gateway products and such created,
> both by DEC and then by others.  But the gateway products just were not
> the same as "DECnet".
>
> DECnet Linux was just another fine example of FOSS extending the life of
> otherwise forgotten hardware.
>
> I went to the HP site and found the latest version of DECnet OpenVMS
> (Version 7.3).  The date on the manual was May of 1993, one year before
> I met Linus.
>
> DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS (including X.25 support) latest version is 8.3,
> with a date of June 2006.
>
> RIP DECnet Linux!
>
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Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

[David Hardy]

Ben said this:  "... trying to get
everyone's bridges and routers configured to properly support IPX,
NetBEUI, AppleTalk, DECnet, etc., etc., etc.  My apologies to maddog
and other ex-DECers, but I say good riddance."

Being of Ancient Daze myself, and a former DECoid, I well remember having to
wrassle with that stuff.  AppleTalk, indeed!  And middle managers looked at
us like we were crazy to even raise an eyebrow at the tasks involved.  One
even chastised me for not, according to him, useless piece of meatspace
detritus that he was, knowing enough then about DECnet, let alone AppleTalk,
etc., although at that point I was only a lowly operator on the off-shift.
(almost a quarter-century ago, my, how *tempus fugit*.)

I, too, say good riddance.  And one IP shall rule them all.

Keep rocking, Ben, md, and the rest of youse.
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Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

[David Hardy]

Oh, does THAT bring back the golden oldie memories!  My first-ever paid IT
gig was working with, yes, a PDP-11 running RSX-11 (for CAD/CAM engineering
apps) and a microVAX running, I think, VAX/VMS 3.5.

Then, off to DEC itself, in Marlborough and The Mill.

No Linux for me until twelve years later...



On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> >I've already heard of people running an emulator on
> >top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application
> >alive.
>
> One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and
> the professors (knowing I had worked for DEC) offered to show me an
> ancient PDP-11 running RSX-11 that they kept in a locked room.  I
> thought it was for the students to play with, but no, they were running
> the schools payroll on it. :-(
>
> I asked them what would happen if the machine broke, and they got very
> quiet.  Then I told them about the PDP-11 emulators that Bob Supnik and
> those guys had put together, and they got all happy again.
>
> md
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Re: Internet history (was: We need a better Internet)

[David Hardy]

*And let's not forget EasyNET, people, at DEC, back in the glorious '90s.  *

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Benjamin Scott  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:
> > Actually ARPANET, while a DOD sponsored network, was a way to connect
> > universities so they could share research. I'm over generalizing, but it
> > wasn't strictly an internal military thing.
>
>  Right, I didn't mean ARPANET was used by DoD only, I meant it was
> under their "jurisdiction".  IIRC, ARPANET was later split into MILNET
> (which *was* DoD only) and NSFNET, or something like that.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Internet history (was: We need a better Internet)

[David Hardy]

True enuff;  and I made a little boo-boo:  EasyNET was around in the
glorious '80s, too!  We were running VMS, natch, and little old me got
jammed up behind a couple of posts I made there concerning contemporary
international politics, about which I will say no more, as I don't wish to
have the repercussions I got back then.

EasyNET had a slew of various threads on all kinds of interests and was the
predecessor, at least as far as I'm concerned in my own experience, of
places like AOL's and CompuServe's forums, and Salon's Table Talk (where I
also got jammed up a couple of times)

Oh Lordy, now the memories are flooding back: USENET, and in my own neck of
the woods in suburban Beantown back then, the Boston Computer Society's BBS,
which I accessed through a DEC Rainbow, the machine I also used to login to
DEC VAXen at work to monitor various jobs and processes from home.

Ain't it great to be one of the surviving dinosaurs?

cheers, from rainy northern Vermont today...

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Benjamin Scott  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, David Hardy 
> wrote:
> > And let's not forget EasyNET, people, at DEC, back in the glorious '90s.
>
>   Heck, back then, everyone had a cool name for their own network.  ;-)
>
> -- Ben Scott @ FidoNet 1:324/127.4
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Re: Internet history (was: We need a better Internet)

[David Hardy]

Yes, md, I remember, as do many or all of us, the same bunch of names for
the systems, usually either from the Snow White gang, or Lord of the Rings,
or Hitchhiker's Guide.  Them were the daze.  Now our brilliant successors
name them with strings of alphanumeric characters the provenance of which
only they, the holy annointed ones, can fathom.

And, if memory serves, FidoNet "ran" a whole lot of those BBS thangs.

Sleep sounds good on this rainy, foggy and thunder-stormy night here in
Vermont...cheers to our sister state of NH and the folks down in the tropics
of Massachusetts.



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> >EasyNET was around in the glorious '80s, too!
>
> uucp(1) - Unix to Unix Copy
>
> decvax!maddog - who needs any stinking domain names?
>
> And surely you *name* your computer systems!
>
> "shaman", "guru", "shamet", "wicca" - my systems all have *names*
>
> Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs!  (sneezy, dopey, doc, bashful, grumpy,
> sleepy, happy)and I did not even have to look up the names...not
> because of the movie, but because of the eight systems in engineering.
>
> Now I go back to sleep.
>
> md
>
> P.S. Do not forget Fidonet!  Urf!
>
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more fun nooz from the good folks out in Redmond...

[David Hardy]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20002362-75.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=News-Microsoft
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electronics manuals

[David Hardy]

*Yo, homies;*
*
*
*For those of youse wid multiple electronic devices lying around or in use
and you've gone and stupidly and idiotically, like a complete freaking
imbecile, lost the manual/s for same, go here for freebie manuals (about
100k of them at last count) that you can download for nada, usually in .pdf
format. This site is a fricking gold mine of info for all these gadgets,
plus reviews and recommendations.*
*
*
retrevo.com
*
*
*Enjoy, and cheers from soggy north-central Vermont, as the snow flurries
fly...*
*
*
*Old Farmer Davy*
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Re: [OT] - April 21, 2010 = Centenial of Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemen's death

[David Hardy]

*I respect your choices, md.  I'll agree with Sam Clemens.  But not Lincoln.
 Instead of him, and even though I'm a native New Englander with ancestry
back to the Mayflower and beyond, to the Wampanoag and Nipmuc, I will pick
General Robert E. Lee.  I have my reasons, though not a topic for this list.
 And no movies stars nor athletes here, either.  Cheers.*
*
*
***P.S.  I think that Lee would have chosen Linux long, long before
Gettysburg and Appomattox and it would have given him a decisive edge.
*
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> I have few personal heroes.  No baseball players or movie stars take up
> that space with me.
>
> But I do take off my hat to two people:
>
> o Abraham Lincoln
> o Samuel Clemens
>
> Today marks the 100th anniversary of Samuel Clemens' death, and to not
> note it would be a crime.
>
> If he were alive today, I am sure he would use Linux.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> maddog
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Re: SCO loses, Novell wins finally

[David Hardy]

*Neutron bombs.  Wipe out the culprits while retaining hw and sw assets.*
*
*
***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb*
*
*
* 
*
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Michael ODonnell <
michael.odonn...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> > Hopefully someone soon will put a stake through their heart, cut
> > their head off, fill their mouth with garlic, put silver coins
> > on their eyes, then burn them, cover them in holy water, and dump
> > the ashes into a volcano.
>
> What about H-bombs?
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
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Re: And we thought they were dead :-)

[David Hardy]

This is doubly sad and disturbing because from what I've seen in the past
few years is that Novell has made huge strides in expanding their open
source solutions and offerings, most often in conjunction with the OpenSuse
projects.  And SCO keeps rising from the dead;  maybe all those volcano and
atomic bomb analogies were not so far off earlier on this list.



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> Unbelievable, SCO files another appeal.
> From Groklaw:
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100707202429776
> 
> 07/07/2010 - 881  - NOTICE
> OF APPEAL as to 876 Findings of Fact & Conclusions of Law, 878 Judgment,
> 877 Order on Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law, Order on Motion for
> New Trial, Memorandum Decision filed by SCO Group. Appeals to the USCA
> for the 10th Circuit. Filing fee $ 455, receipt number 1088-1150192.
> (Hatch, Brent) (Entered: 07/07/2010)
> ...
> Plaintiff, The SCO Group, Inc., hereby appeals to the United States
> Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit from the Jury Verdict entered in
> this action on March 30, 2010, the district court’s evidentiary rulings
> at trial, Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law dated June 10, 2010,
> Memorandum Decision and Order Denying SCO’s Renewed Motion for Judgment
> as a Matter of Law or, in the alternative, for a New Trial dated June
> 10, 2010, and the Final Judgment entered on June 10, 2010.
> ---
>
> Essentially, they had a number of summary judgements against them in the
> first go-around plus a trial which they appealed, and the 10th Circuit
> gave them another trial with another judge. They lost the second trial
> with the jury awarding Novell the Unix IP, they appealed to the judge to
> vacate the jury award which was denied, and now they are appealing again.
>
> In terms of Linux, the issue is certainly who owns the Unix IP. In both
> the first go-around where Judge Kimball awarded the Unix IP to Novell,
> and the second go-around it does appear that the Unix IP is somewhat
> safe in the hands of Novell, but some strange things can happen. There
> is a scheduled bankruptcy hearing scheduled for next Monday where the
> bankruptcy judge should finally hear the results of the trial as well as
> this intent to appeal.
>
> --
> Jerry Feldman 
> Boston Linux and Unix
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Re: Linux vs Windows, obscure security features (was: Quarantining an account...)

[David Hardy]

*"...since the first
version (Version 3.0).  (NT is today called "Windows 7", and has also
been called "Vista", "XP", and  "2000".)  (It's still Microsoft; they
love playing name games.)*
*
*
*And we all know, I think, that Windows NT was created for Microsoft by Dave
Cutler, former developer of RSX and VMS, which I started my IT "career" with
in '86.  He left DEC in '88 and I left in '89 and now he's apparently
working on Azure.  Not a big fan of UNIX.  I remember how there were a
number of similarities between the VMS user authorization parameters and the
NT ones, when, at one point, I was a sys admin for both VMS and NT at EDS,
now owned by HP, along with DEC and VMS.  *
*
*
*Just a little trip down ol' Farmer Davy's memory lane...*
*
*

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Bill Sconce 
> wrote:
> > (*)  Sorry, Windows users. The tools you need just aren't
> > available on Windows.
>
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Re: Linux vs Windows, obscure security features (was: Quarantining an account...)

[David Hardy]

Very interesting, and additional information that I was not aware of,
naturally.  For a short while, maybe nine years ago, I had an office with an
Alpha machine that was running OpenVMS 6.something, and then when my
"managers" found out that it could run NT, they made me change it to NT.  I
wish now that I'd told them it could also run Red Hat.  There was even a web
site back then concerning running NT on Alphas, with available downloads,
and, if memory serves, which it often does not these daze, a pseudo-'for
Dummies' book about VMS and NT interoperability;  I may still have it around
here somewhere.  (there is also another 'for Dummies' book on running VMS
together with Linux.)

Aha, the web site;  here it is: http://www.alphant.com/

I also remember having to install firmware to do the change, and it looks
like some of it may still be available at Microsoft.  I may even have some
floppies around here, too.

Ah, the glory daze...miniscule hard drives, nit-noy RAM...green
monitors...9-track reels...and midnight shift operators who looked like
they'd escaped from the bar scene in *Star Wars*...

<http://www.alphant.com/ant_faq.shtml>

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM, David Hardy 
> wrote:
> > And we all know, I think, that Windows NT was created for Microsoft by
> Dave
> > Cutler, former developer of RSX and VMS ..
>
>  And Cutler moved to Microsoft because DEC just wanted to
> maintain/extend VMS, while Cutler wanted to write a new OS ("MICA")
> for the new hardware architecture ("PRISM") that was being designed.
> Microsoft needed a better OS (where "better" included "not part-owned
> by IBM"), Cutler wanted to continue MICA... and thus "OS/2 NT" was
> born.  It was originally going to be the 3.0 release of OS/2.  Then
> the IBM and MSFT alliance fell apart completely, and it became
> "Windows NT".
>
>  (Aside: Significant chunks of the PRISM technology ended up as the
> Alpha architecture.)
>
> > I remember how there were a number of similarities between
> > the VMS user authorization parameters and the NT ones,
>
>  Reportedly, the NT kernel and VMS share a number of architectural
> similarities.  I read a 2-page technical analysis once; most of it was
> over my head but it sure seemed like there was something to it.  I've
> been told NT was so similar DEC threatened MSFT with legal action, and
> MSFT settled out-of-court; one consequence was that NT was maintained
> on the Alpha for longer than had MSFT wanted.  Or something like that.
>
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Re: Linux vs Windows, obscure security features (was: Quarantining an account...)

[David Hardy]

maddog, et. al.

Thanks much for that additional history.  I am filing it as notes for my
eventual 'autobiography' accordingly.

I also remember reading Terry Shannon's 'Charlie Matco' columns back then
and I believe I even corresponded with him once or twice.  May he indeed,
fellow 'Nam vet (we were there at the same time, albeit with different
tasks, one of which I shared with him during my later tour in TLC) , rest in
peace.  His web site exists here:

http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/

I would cheerfully kill someone now for a
Charlie Matco coffee mug.

Cheers!

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> David,
>
> Unfortunately the site you mention:
>
> http://www.alphant.com/
>
> has a FAQ that is wrong:
>
> http://www.alphant.com/ant_faq.shtml#64bits
>
> Alpha NT never supported a 64-bit virtual address space.  I seem to
> remember that Digital offered that code to Microsoft in 1992, but
> Microsoft turned it down because it was not in "their best business
> interests" to accept it.
>
> I was also told that Digital also offered (perhaps at a royalty cost) an
> implementation of their clustering software in the same timeperiod,
> which Microsoft also turned down.  Instead Microsoft came out with
> "Wolfpack", which was the only clustering software I ever saw where two
> processors ran slower than one.
>
> Finally, that site did have a bitter-sweet memory for me.  In the upper
> right-hand corner of the page is an "ad" for "Shannon knows DEC" the
> byline of an old friend of mine, Terry "Charlie Matco" Shannon, may he
> rest in the peace he deserves.
>
> md
>
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Re: Linux vs Windows, obscure security features (was: Quarantining an account...)

[David Hardy]

Yep, took a long time to load for me, too.  Could be on a VAXstation 3100 or
a MicroVAX.

In Heaven he will have his choice of computers and a data center to put them
in and his own printing press to explain it all to the other denizens.  Only
a year older than me and already gone these past five years.  A major loss.
 RIP, Terry.  But before you rest up, call in one more air strike on Apple.


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> David,
>
> >His web site exists here:
>
> >http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/
>
> It must be residing on a PRO 350 running an early version of V7M-11 (nee
> Ultrix-11)it took such a long time to load, but was definitely worth
> the wait.
>
> Thanks again for the memories.
>
> md
>
> P.S. My note about Terry from that site:
>
> Shannon knows. Posted by Jon
> Saturday July 09 2005 @ 01:35PM EDT
> I, like many other people, had heard of Charlie Matco. The invisible
> person who was under every desk at Digital Equipment Corporation, and
> who knew the plans before DEC announced them, and often knew what would
> happen before DEC did.
>
> I met Terry during my days in the Digital Unix group, probably at a
> DECUS. Very sharp technically, and always thinking of the customer.
>
> Terry was one of the first analysts to embrace Linux and what it could
> do for the world.
>
> I hope they have computers in Heaven...otherwise Terry will not be
> happy.
>
> - maddog
>
>
>
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Re: gnhlug-discuss digest: re: Subarus

[David Hardy]

It has long since definitely been established as the state vehicle of Vermont.  Dave HardyBen Scott wrote:>   In a similar vein, it has been established that Subaru is the> official vehicle of either GNHLUG, Hosstraders, or both.  I own one,
> so does Mike Ledoux, so does Ted Roche, and Matt and Heather Brodeur> own two.  Meanwhile, Forresters were crawling around Hosstraders like> ants at a picnic.Actually I think Subaru is the official vehicle of New Hampshire.
Kent

Moving data from one server to another

[David Hardy]

Greetings, all;

We have an older (and ailing) Dell PowerEdge 6300 running RH 9.0 and
overloaded with a ton of (no-longer-sold and barely supported) Telemation
phone system software.  This machine is currently part of our network.

We just bought a new Dell PowerEdge 860 and it came installed with RHEL 4.0.
This box connects to the internet dynamically and they would like us to
migrate the whole can of worms from the old box to the new one and then fix
stuff, if necessary, afterward.  It has been explained at least a dozen
times to them that the process is not as simple as what they call "copying"
or "mapping" directories to the new machine;  there are site-specific
scripts and files all over the old box written by several people over the
years who have since left and never documented anything that they did (never
enforced by same management that is on us like white on rice now to get this
thing done.)

I was wondering if anyone else here has faced this sort of situation before
and how they dealt with it.

Dave Hardy
Old VMS guy
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Re: Moving data from one server to another

[David Hardy]

The PHBs want to move the whole shebang over to the new server and then
worry about other stuff later.  We've told them a dozen times that this
won't necessarily work, but they think it's a simple copy/mapping/renaming
operation.  The new server has two hard drives and the only thing on it
right now is the o.s.

We were thinking that we'd like to back up the old server's data to tape and
then move it to the new server, but one PHB called that notion
"half-baked."   We also thought about using Amanda but it would be a bit
more complex and a learning process all the way through.

Full disclosure:  I've used RH from 6.2 through 9.0 and Core 5 on desktops
but only recently completed RH 133 admin training (toward the RHCT) and am
now thought to be a Linux guru, although this is my first production
environment running it.

Dave Hardy
Old VMS Guy

On 12/1/06, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  If I'm reading the original poster correctly, he doesnt want to move the
entire installation to the new server.  He wants to upgrade the system to
use the new release of the OS, and somehow get a listing of files that have
been modified or changed since the original install, as he has no idea where
people placed scripts, what they do, where they're called from, etc..

  Look paul, I'm TOP posting!  :-)

On 12/1/06, Dave Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are these Raid? or just single disk?
> If only single, try to use Symantec ghost and should
> work. Otherwise, if you have veritas backup, use the
> backup and restore. Backup your old one and restore to
> the new one.
>
> --
> Dave
>
> --- David Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Greetings, all;
> >
> > We have an older (and ailing) Dell PowerEdge 6300
> > running RH 9.0 and
> > overloaded with a ton of (no-longer-sold and barely
> > supported) Telemation
> > phone system software.  This machine is currently
> > part of our network.
> >
> > We just bought a new Dell PowerEdge 860 and it came
> > installed with RHEL 4.0.
> > This box connects to the internet dynamically and
> > they would like us to
> > migrate the whole can of worms from the old box to
> > the new one and then fix
> > stuff, if necessary, afterward.  It has been
> > explained at least a dozen
> > times to them that the process is not as simple as
> > what they call "copying"
> > or "mapping" directories to the new machine;  there
> > are site-specific
> > scripts and files all over the old box written by
> > several people over the
> > years who have since left and never documented
> > anything that they did (never
> > enforced by same management that is on us like white
> > on rice now to get this
> > thing done.)
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone else here has faced this
> > sort of situation before
> > and how they dealt with it.
> >
> > Dave Hardy
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Re: Computer dinosaurs

[David Hardy]

And, in addition to what BOTH Paul and Ben said, this old IT geezer
appreciates the occasional little trips down Memory Lane, since my own
RAM seems to be fading a bit here and there.  Full disclosure:  I go
back to the PDP11 and VAX/VMS 3.5.

Regards to all, for the many extremely helpful and interesting posts
over the years here.

Dave H.


On Nov 6, 2007 5:17 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/6/07, David Ecklein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If anyone knows of any other
> > scratch-built computers from that era, please get in touch with me, perhaps
> > off-list.so that meta-discussions don't cause the clutter here.
>
>   In addition to what Paul said, I'd like to point out that such
> discussions are likely to be of interest to many of our members, and
> are arguably more on-topic than a lot of the crap that flows across
> this list.  :-)
>
>   BTW, that is quite the impressive science fair project.  We had to
> stick to keeping an egg from cracking when dropped off the roof of the
> building.  =^)
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Red Hat Announces Fourth-Annual Red Hat Summit: BOSTON!!!

[David Hardy]

I'd also be interested in a gambit like this;  no way could I possibly
afford such wack entrance fees, but I'd be happy to chip in for hotel room/s
and I'd bring down however many cases of Vermont microbrew would be
necessary...

I'd guess this would have to be sorta "classified" should we go ahead with
anything...

Dave
(an exam away from RHCT)



On Nov 14, 2007 8:12 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2007 6:35 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll be in the hotel across the street at the CentOS Summit, where
> > they'll simulcast the Redhat Summit from their attendee's wifi helmet-
> > cam.  Bring some chips and throw a five in the shoebox to help cover
> > the room cost.
>
>  Is there really such a thing?  If so, what you're describing is
> brilliant.  If not, maybe we should put something together.  It's not
> just a conference about Open Source, it's an Open Source conference!
> :-D
>
> -- Ben
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Re: [OT] Verizon/FairPoint sale (was: Comcast!?!?)

[David Hardy]

We have a POTS line (courtesy of Verizon) and three cells here in
Montpelier, VT, and sometimes on our 7-acre farm we lose the cell
connections, let alone driving north of here into the NEK where cell
coverage is pretty much non-existent, ditto for the ride down I-89 between
Royalton and Bellows Falls.

> I've had more electrical outages in the past
>year then I have had telephone service out.

Same here.  We also have trains going by half a dozen times a day (and
night) and they sometimes disrupt both our cell coverage and DSL connections
(also Verizon).

Bernie Sanders (our feisty new Senator) and one of our NEK state reps, Vince
Illuzi, are joining forces with the unions to either disrupt or blow away
the Verizon/Fairpoint deal up here.

Dave H.

On Nov 15, 2007 3:17 PM, Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Couldn't some combination of wireless and VOIP make POTS
> > redundant/unnecessary?  Doesn't it already?
>
> Not even a little bit.  Drive north of Concord NH and it starts to
> fall out in waves.
>
> > I noticed Verizon doesn't want to ditch its wireless service (a separate
> > company).  I'm assuming that Comcast serves the whole state and that
> their
> > VOIP services are available everywhere, but that could be a bad
> assumption.
>
> Would this be the same Comcast who doesn't offer ~any~ services as
> close as Lyndyborough and Mason?
>
> > I just wonder, if POTS went away tomorrow, what would that mean in terms
> of
> > its effect on residents and commercial businesses?  I think it wouldn't
> > affect me all that much because I have VOIP and cell phones.  But I
> think
> > other folks here probably have a lot more insight.
> >
> > Anyone?
>
> POTS is still there because it's resilliant as hell, and for all of
> the individual complaints that people may have with "the phone
> company" it's rarely something to do with picking up the phone and
> getting a dial-tone.  I've had more electrical outages in the past
> year then I have had telephone service out.
>
> Wireless is not nearly as all-encompassing as we think...  I live in
> Nashua and yeah, great coverage...  I head out to my buddies house in
> Allenstown and on my Verizon phone can't seem to find signal and
> eventually kills itself looking...
>
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Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

[David Hardy]

Same here.  I've been at it off and on since '84 in a variety of roles from
night shift drone operator to currently, systems engineer.  From DEC to EDS
to GE and a lot of other places in between.  VAX/VMS, OpenVMS, Windows,
NetWare, UNIX, Linux, etc., etc.   I no longer even touch hardware;  80% of
the machines where I work now are virtual.  And other personnel have become
the high priests who enter server rooms and actually touch it.  Management,
with one or two exceptions over the decades, has generally sucked, making
the PHB of Dilbert look brilliant and benign.

Depending on how the current gig pans out over the next year, this may well
be my swan song to IT.  I have one brother who's been at it over thirty
years and he is thoroughly disgusted and fed up with it, along with having
the worst ever boss of the whole three decades currently.  And what were all
those thousands of backups for, all those reports, all those database
queries, etc., etc.?

Getting too old and crotchety lately to put up with too much b.s., and since
retirement accounts have been lost or destroyed, and the kids are grown up
and gone, the pressure to toil in the masters' vineyards is much less.  I am
looking real hard right now on how I want to spend the remaining decade or
two of life.

But you guys have been great;  I began with Linux on Red Hat 6.2 a while
back and this group has never failed to be a source of information,
intelligence, wit and good-heartedness.

Carry on!

Old Farmer Davy
West Montpeculiar
Vermont

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> > The sum of anecdotal experiences indicate we
> > should just give up on the entire computing field.
>
>  Best advice I've heard all week.
>
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Re: [OT] Ken Olsen, DEC father, dead at 84

[David Hardy]

Hi, Ben, and all;

I saw this news earlier today via DECconnetions email and it is indeed sad
news.  He was a pioneer and I was privileged to work at DEC for a while in
the late 80s and also got to meet him once and visit his office and see the
original orange crate desk that he and Gordon Bell and Co. used originally
when they started, at the Old Mill in Maynard.

*Requiescat in pace*, Kenneth.



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Benjamin Scott  wrote:

>  This is OT-ish, but I know we have a lot of ex-DEC'ers on this list.
>
>  Ken Olsen, co-founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, died on Sun
> 6 Feb.  He was 84.
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/technology/business-computing/08olsen.html
>
> http://www.wbur.org/2011/02/08/olsen-biographer
>
>
> http://www.xconomy.com/san-francisco/2011/02/08/remembering-ken-olsen-1926-2011-a-sense-of-pride-and-a-sense-of-humor/
>
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Re: Ottawa Linux Symposium

[David Hardy]

For that equivalent in Vermont, it would be the "enhanced" motor vehicle
operator's license.  Which, reading the list down the street at the DMV,
tells us that it is good for quite a few places in the Western Hemisphere
north of the Equator.

Have an enjoyable, safe and productive trip, sir.



On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall  wrote:

> >> I will be leaving Nashua about 1400 on March 12th ...
>
> >  Apparently, this year's Ottawa Linux Symposium will be announcing a
> >  new addition to the Linux kernel: Time travel.
>
> Yes, that should have been "June 12th", and we will be coming back on
> "June 16th" (although that part was correct).so we will only be in
> Ottawa for a couple of days.
>
> Also, please remember that U.S. citizens visiting Canada now need a U.S.
> Passport "or equivalent document":
>
> http://gocanada.about.com/od/canadatraveloverview/qt/uscitizenborder.htm
>
> to return, even if by car.
>
> md
>
>
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oddball upgrade question for Ubuntu 11.04

[David Hardy]

Greetings from northern Vermont and our continuing Mud Season!

I just did a little upgrade dance from 10.10 to 11.04 Natty Narwahl on an
older Dell desktop with 2GB RAM.  I had burned both a CD and a USB stick
with it but the box would not boot from either one, possibly a corrupted
download,  I'm guessing.

On the third upgrade attempt via the System Update option (multiple possibly
because of net traffic trying to do the same thing) it downloaded and
installed the packages and rebooted but halted on the splash screen.
 Rebooted again and got to the login screen and then, presumably, the new
11.04 screen, which is black.  Keyboard and clock are fine and everything
looks like it might be OK, but I *can't move or activate the mouse, although
its cursor is visible on the screen*.  Tried different mice, ensured that
the mouse port was on, rebooted again, and no joy in Mudville.

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Re: Speaking of 11.04 questions...

[David Hardy]

I know I mentioned that it was an older Dell desktop with 2GB of RAM, but I
should also point out that the Unity desktop was not going to run on that
hardware, which I knew, and on boot-up the first time the system told me
this and also told me I could choose the usual Gnome desktop on log-in.
 However, on log-in there was no such choice.   The current screen shows me
the usual Ubuntu Applications, Places, System, date and clock on the top bar
and looks good to go, but the mouse cursor is frozen in the center.

Ken, are you looking for the preferences and admin stuff via the Unity
desktop?

I have a list here close by of a half-dozen things we should do after we
upgrade to 11.04 but without the mouse or command line I am stuck right now.



On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio  wrote:

> I fired up Beta 2 a couple weeks ago.  Seemed nice enough, though I was
> trying to get the feel for the interface.  And what finally turned me back
> to 10.10, though, was the fact that I could *NOT* find a way to access
> what I'll nominally call the "preferences" and "administration" menus.
> And, yeah, I know I can search for the stuff -- and that's great, when you
> already know what you're searching for.  But how the  do I just poke
> around?
>
> Thanks for any/all insights...
>
> -Ken
>
>
>
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Re: Speaking of 11.04 questions...

[David Hardy]

That is what I thought, however Ctrl-Alt- plus any of the F1-7 keys get me
only a blank black screen and no prompt whatsoever.  And then, I can only do
Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get the normal window back again, with the top bar listing
Applications, Places, etc.  Strange.  Methinks the upgrade and subsequent
deleting and adding of packages and final config borked something or other.

If I could have got to the Terminal/command line I would have tried the next
logical steps but at this point I may just go back to 10.10.



On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Ben Eisenbraun  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:30:40PM -0400, David Hardy wrote:
> > I have a list here close by of a half-dozen things we should do after we
> > upgrade to 11.04 but without the mouse or command line I am stuck right
> now.
>
> You should always have the command line unless Ubuntu has gone and done
> something totally broken in their setup.  You can hit Ctrl-Alt-F(1-7) to
> get to the console ttys.
>
> That is also how I'd attempt to fix your mouse problem.  Log in and examine
> the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if your mouse is being (mis)detected.
>
> Since it sounds like your install/update was less than smooth, it's
> probably worth seeing if a round of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade &&
> apt-get -f install and a reboot would automagically fix things without
> resorting to reading manuals.
>
> -b
>
> --
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Re: oddball upgrade question for Ubuntu 11.04

[David Hardy]

Without a mouse and without ability to bring up Terminal and with other
keyboard combos disabled, a total show-stopper here, and I am happily back
to 10.10 and Mint 10.0 on an old laptop, all working great.

Thanks for the attempted help;  I appreciate it.



On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:14 AM, David Ohlemacher wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Regarding natty, this upstream kernel issue is a show stopper for me:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131
>
> 40% less battery time?That will need to get fixed before I would
> upgrade.
>
> Also, I believe the alt-f2 run dialog has been removed from Unity.
> Another show stopper.  I rarely use the menus.
>
> -d
>
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Re: eWaste collection event, 21 May, Manchester, NH

[David Hardy]

I took a typing class in high school back in the late 60s and was the only
boy in the class.

Clever bastard, eh?

But I learned to type real well and to this day can manage 51 WPM, no
errors.  Only drawback was
that for years of soldier and cop work, I was the designated report writer.
 And the advantages have
been pretty good since.  I have long since lost track of, or simply lost,
the couple of manual typewriters
I used to have, and I am given to understand that Olivetti of Italy was/is?
the last manufacturer of them.

And back when we were growing up, we not only did not have PCs, the
internet, or air, we also had to
make our own water and walk uphill both ways to and from school in the worst
weather ever in human history
while reciting the multiplication table and doing long division with our
fingernails on slate chalkboards.

Just found this via the Usual Method:

*Olivetti Typewriter* Manual Linea 98

*Overview* - Online
stores
 - 
Details
[image: Olivetti Typewriter Manual Linea 98]

$249 
online
This is a new heavy duty standard typewriter. Full size keyboard and 13"
carriage. New Machine - EBS 800-816-6855






Seems kind of steep and getting close to the price of a PC these days...

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Benjamin Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall  wrote:
> > I still have my old SEARS portable, manual (non-electric) typewriter
> > in my closet.
>
>   I still have my Corona Model 3 typewriter.  Built circa 1920.  Just
> "Corona"; it was before they merged with Smith.  It belonged to my
> grandfather.  It still works.  I once used it to type a paper for
> middle/high school, when my PC crapped out for some reason (I had, of
> course, waited until the night before it was due).  It has two shift
> keys: CAP and FIG, the later of which does numbers and punctuation.
> The shift keys actually shift the entire carriage/platen assembly up.
>
> > Today, most college kids don't know what a typewriter is ...
>
>  Why, when I was growing up, we didn't even have air!  ;-)
>
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RHEL cluster question

[David Hardy]

Greetings, fellow Linux lovers;

Ran into a little situation today where we need to cycle power/reboot a
bunch of nodes that are down and out, by telnet to the relevant terminal
server ports and the advanced management module.  This involves multiple
consoles, windows, command line, GUI, the works, as follows:



Subject:  RHEL cluster, 4.0 through 5.3.

Issue:  How to find IP addresses of terminal server ports which service
individual nodes which are down and out.  (need to telnet to them for
troubleshooting/maintenance/rebooting)

And:  IP address and/or hostname of advanced management module which runs on
the clusters
.
Some clusters have a "magic decoder ring" file that gives this information;
 most don't.

Any thoughts?  Workaround so far has been via eyeballing racks of blades and
doing various arithmetic problems in our heads.
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Re: http://linuxbeard.com/

[David Hardy]

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM, David Hardy wrote:

> What both John and md said, concerning how to offend or not offend someone
> on this planet.  Guaranteed, any of us can manage to do it any time of day
> or night, should someone choose to be offended, either by something we said,
> didn't say, did or didn't do, clothes we wear, facial expression, ethnicity,
> religion or lack thereof, etc., etc.  Guaranteed.
>
> And as both John and md intimated, and as I will be more explicit, there
> are professional and semi-pro grievance specialists out here, who
> ruthlessly, relentlessly and continuously look for anything or anyone that
> can possible offend them, at which point they will complain, whine, file a
> grievance, file a lawsuit, etc., etc.
>
> I am old enough now to continue being reasonable and polite and
> well-mannered all the time in the face of this stuff, but there is a point
> where a line can and should be drawn and somebody simply must be told to go
> jump in a lake, or piss up a rope,* pardon mon Francais, mes amis. *
>
> On the Linux beard thing, I grew mine a couple of years ago until, as our
> son informed me, I looked like a Civil War general.  I was going to keep
> growing it until I got a full-time Linux gig finally, and a month ago I did.
>  So, as it was at the point of getting tangled in the car seatbelts and car
> doors on entering and exiting the vehicle, I trimmed it back by a few
> pounds.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Mark Komarinski wrote:
>
>> I went management and now I have a goatee (i still have root on a bunch of
>> boxes).
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Bill Freeman" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: http://linuxbeard.com/
>> Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 6:03 pm
>>
>>
>> I used to have a beard.  Then my unix gig dried up.
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Re: http://linuxbeard.com/

[David Hardy]

I would think that if one was both a UNIX/Linux person AND a brewer, they
would cancel each other out and thus no beard.

But maybe that is only the case if one also takes up amateur radio and/or
astronomy/telescope building.

And what about home gunsmithing?

And beekeeping?

Just asking...



On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall  wrote:

> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:04 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote:
> > Try brewing beer.  There seems to be a tendancy towards beards in home
> > brewers too.
> >
> > I know many gnhlugers have brewed in the past.
> >
> Ridiculous! Beer never touches my lips!
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150236773742025.357265.593062024#!/photo.php?fbid=10150236773747025&set=a.10150236773742025.357265.593062024&type=1&theater
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150236773742025.357265.593062024#!/photo.php?fbid=10150238629692025&set=a.10150236773742025.357265.593062024&type=1&theater
>
> It goes straight down my throat and into my stomach!
>
> md
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Re: Browsers

[David Hardy]

I remember the Henning story being broadcast, extremely amusing.

On a somewhat related note, there have been persistent rumors, along the
lines of urban legends, that there is either a secret U.S. military base in
the Blue Hills or it is an underground UFO base.

And if one is hiking around in them hills down there in the tropics, watch
where you put yer hands and feet;  there are timber rattlers.

Full disclosure:  I use Chrome and Firefox here in northern Vermont.



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> On 08/03/2011 03:54 PM, Ryan Lee Stanyan wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 15:39 -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> >> "Jon \"maddog\" Hall"  writes:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 14:42 -0400, Brian St. Pierre wrote:
>  On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bill Sconce 
> wrote:
> >1.
> >http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,236944/printable.html
> >
> >If you use Internet Explorer, your IQ might be below average--at
> >least, according to one study.
> 
>  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14389430
> 
>  Draw your own conclusions about IE users -- that "study" was a hoax...
> >>>
> >>> Interesting to see the number of "legitimate" news organizations that
> >>> just swallowed the hoax and reported on it without checking into it at
> >>> all.
> >>>
> >>> Makes you wonder about the authenticity of other "news items" reported
> >>> by them.
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> It's called "churnalism"--cf.:
> >>
> >> http://www.onthemedia.org/2011/mar/04/churning-out-pr/transcript/
> >>
> >>
> http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2011/03/churnalismcom-reveals-press-release-copy-in-news-stories068.html
> >>
> >>
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/04/21/135568766/everything-you-know-about-this-band-is-wrong
> >>
> >> (that last one is particularly interesting: it's an NPR journalist
> saying,
> >>  more or less, `it's the PR people's fault--their press releases lie to
> us!').
> >>
> >> The news-media still generally report that `Linux still has yet to get
> >> to even 1% market share', too--I want to know where they keep getting
> >> *that* figure.
> >>
> >
> > I think it's called "news entertainment" nowadays.  Just make a huge
> > headline libeling someone and then post the retraction weeks later
> > buried somewhere in the back.
> >
> May 18th or 19th 1980 Boston Channel 7's John Henning reported that the
> Great Blue Hill in Canton, Ma was erupting. This was a story that his
> news producer inserted. The producer got fired, I don't recall if
> Henning was fired or not, but he subsequently left and became the
> statehouse reporter at channel 4.
>
>
>
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Re: Browsers

[David Hardy]

It doesn't, actually.  Many areas up here are still without internet at all,
or they have dial-up/modem, and/or no cell phone access.  A few party-line
phone systems, too.   As late as the 60s, three-quarters of the roads up
here were unpaved.

And only a four-drive from Boston.

The pols and hacks keep promising the extension of broadband to the
benighted hillbillies, but it just never seems to pan out.

At Firebase Dave here, we have Verizon for our cells and Fairpoint for
landline phone and internet.   With regular outages of all.





On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> I actually saw the newscast :-). Didn't know the Internet reached all
> the way up in Northern Vermont.
>
> On 08/03/2011 04:08 PM, David Hardy wrote:
> > I remember the Henning story being broadcast, extremely amusing.
> >
> > On a somewhat related note, there have been persistent rumors, along the
> > lines of urban legends, that there is either a secret U.S. military base
> > in the Blue Hills or it is an underground UFO base.
> >
> > And if one is hiking around in them hills down there in the tropics,
> > watch where you put yer hands and feet;  there are timber rattlers.
> >
> > Full disclosure:  I use Chrome and Firefox here in northern Vermont.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Jerry Feldman  > <mailto:g...@gapps.blu.org>> wrote:
> >
> > On 08/03/2011 03:54 PM, Ryan Lee Stanyan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 15:39 -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
> > >> "Jon \"maddog\" Hall" mailto:mad...@li.org>>
> writes:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 14:42 -0400, Brian St. Pierre wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bill Sconce
> > mailto:sco...@in-spec-inc.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>1.
> > >>>>>
> >  http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,236944/printable.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>If you use Internet Explorer, your IQ might be below
> > average--at
> > >>>>>least, according to one study.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14389430
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Draw your own conclusions about IE users -- that "study" was a
> > hoax...
> > >>>
> > >>> Interesting to see the number of "legitimate" news organizations
> > that
> > >>> just swallowed the hoax and reported on it without checking into
> > it at
> > >>> all.
> > >>>
> > >>> Makes you wonder about the authenticity of other "news items"
> > reported
> > >>> by them.
> > >>
> > >> Yes.
> > >>
> > >> It's called "churnalism"--cf.:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://www.onthemedia.org/2011/mar/04/churning-out-pr/transcript/
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2011/03/churnalismcom-reveals-press-release-copy-in-news-stories068.html
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/04/21/135568766/everything-you-know-about-this-band-is-wrong
> > >>
> > >> (that last one is particularly interesting: it's an NPR
> > journalist saying,
> > >>  more or less, `it's the PR people's fault--their press releases
> > lie to us!').
> > >>
> > >> The news-media still generally report that `Linux still has yet
> > to get
> > >> to even 1% market share', too--I want to know where they keep
> getting
> > >> *that* figure.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think it's called "news entertainment" nowadays.  Just make a
> huge
> > > headline libeling someone and then post the retraction weeks later
> > > buried somewhere in the back.
> > >
> > May 18th or 19th 1980 Boston Channel 7's John Henning reported that
> the
> > Great Blue Hill in Canton, Ma was erupting. This was a story that his
> > news producer inserted. The producer got fired, I don't recall if
> > Henning was fired or not, but he subsequently left and became the
> > statehouse reporter at channel 4.
> >
> >
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Re: Browsers

[David Hardy]

Interesting;  Holland, MA is roughly only a 90-minute haul from Boston and
right off the Pike, and yet Union, CT is further down in the CT sticks and
they had the cable service.  Not much rhyme nor reason to it up here,
either.

Our pols and media types occasionally wax all warm and fuzzy about extending
broadband to the rubes and bumpkins on the basis of egalitarian fantasies
and social/economic justice, but after a bit of churning and back-pedaling,
it goes away again.  The part of it that actually sucks, besides the
entertainment non-availability, is the way so much stuff is ONLY available
via internet, like job boards, applications, government paperwork, etc., and
many folks still don't have the access, but this is what they get told on
the radio or wherever;  'hey, just log in to our site and fill out the
forms, etc., etc.' and they can't.

Rescue choppers?  HI was wondering why the regular OD-green chopper
flights nearly every day up and down our river valley here...slide by
anytime, Jerry;  we'll pop a coupla flares for ya.



On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> A friend of mine used to live in Holland, Ma (next to Sturbridge). They
> had no cable, and a call to an ISP was long distance. He signed up for
> satellite Internet until Dish network screwed the company. In any case,
> Larry subsequently moved down the street to Union, Ct where they did
> have cable.
> Currently, telephone and cable systems are still taxed and regulated at
> the municipal level. Where I live we have 2 cable companies (Comcast and
> RCN) as well as Verizon (with FIOS). Fairpoint bought the system from
> Verizon.
> In any case call the bn op center and they'll send a couple of Hueys out
> to rescue you at firebase Dave :-). Probably either Henry Wifholm or me :-)
>
> On 08/04/2011 08:14 AM, David Hardy wrote:
> > It doesn't, actually.  Many areas up here are still without internet at
> > all, or they have dial-up/modem, and/or no cell phone access.  A few
> > party-line phone systems, too.   As late as the 60s, three-quarters of
> > the roads up here were unpaved.
> >
> > And only a four-drive from Boston.
> >
> > The pols and hacks keep promising the extension of broadband to the
> > benighted hillbillies, but it just never seems to pan out.
> >
> > At Firebase Dave here, we have Verizon for our cells and Fairpoint for
> > landline phone and internet.   With regular outages of all.
>
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Re: [OT] Broadband availability (was: Browsers)

[David Hardy]

Wow, that is kind of unreal. I was in the Chelmsford area a few years ago
for RH cert training and I was under the impression that it is a very busy
and built-up area and I would have just assumed (and we all know what that
spells) that cable and internet service is ubiquitous there.

Up here I have to admit that the geography all over the state is a serious
factor, and there just ain't gonna be cell phone access or "last-mile" fiber
in a lot of these places.  You can see lots and lots of satellite dishes,
though.

  And of course there is the socio-economic factor of the moneyed
middle-class population centers in the flatlands like Chittenden and
Franklin and Addison counties and the college towns, versus the corn-likker
hillbilly areas in the hills and mountains.   Jethro and Ellie May can
probably forget about ever having broadband up in their neck of the woods
but if they need help from the state or some nonprofit organization at some
point, they will be told to just log on in and fill out them forms online.
 Got internet at the local libraries?  Maybe, but they may only be open
about ten hours a week.  Hell, the Feds are closing rural post offices up
here.  Gotta keep DOD in full battle dress 7x24 and the Wall Street
huckleberries high-fiving each other with each new mass layoff announcement.






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Michael ODonnell <
michael.odonn...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> > Holland, MA is roughly only a 90-minute haul from Boston and right
> > off the Pike, and yet Union, CT is further down in the CT sticks
> > and they had the cable service.  Not much rhyme nor reason to it
> > up here, either.
>
> There's baffling availability patterns in the `burbs as well
> as out in the sticks.  In Chelmsford we got Verizon to agree
> to do their FiOS buildout years ago but we still can't get it
> at our place even though there are addresses less than a block
> away in several directions that can.  I am, of course, grateful
> that we are "lucky" enough to at least have the option of being
> ComCast's captive market but it's infuriating that Verizon's
> bureacracy/greed results in FiOS being so tantalizingly close
> and that little bit of "choice" being just out of reach...
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Re: Browsers

[David Hardy]

The state here threatened Fairpoint, sure, but then there is RL.  And
economics.  And money.  The hacks in Montpeculiar understand money.

We keep the landline in case all the cell coverage blows up and/or the
zombie hordes start overrunning the state from the collapsing ruins of
Megalopolis south of here.

As for population, the whole state has fewer people than the city of Boston.
 This becomes clear during the morning and afternoon "rush hour" commutes.
 And by the plethora, still, of unpaved roads, even in the capital city.

Hey, I paid my dues down there for many years.  Never again.  Even if I have
to milk cows and mow hay.







On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:

> David Hardy  writes:
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:
> > >
> > > Didn't know the Internet reached all the way up in Northern Vermont.
> >
> > It doesn't, actually.  Many areas up here are still without internet at
> all,
> > or they have dial-up/modem, and/or no cell phone access.  A few
> party-line
> > phone systems, too.   As late as the 60s, three-quarters of the roads up
> here
> > were unpaved.
> >
> > And only a four-drive from Boston.
> >
> > The pols and hacks keep promising the extension of broadband to the
> benighted
> > hillbillies, but it just never seems to pan out.
> >
> > At Firebase Dave here, we have Verizon for our cells and Fairpoint for
> > landline phone and internet.   With regular outages of all.
>
> At least you *have* access to landline telephone service--recall that,
> some months back, Vermont was threatening to tell Fairpoint that they
> would no longer be allowed to do business in the state, due to
> general inadequacy of service provided. This came up in a conversation
> of mine, the other day, and I meant to look into how it all turned out;
> from your description, I guess the state proved to be less powerful
> than the utility-company?
>
> We gave one of Openmoko's WikiReader units to my wife's sister
> as a christmas-present, a couple years back, because she was
> in the same situation (either in Vermont, or in one of the more
> `Vermont-like' areas further up into New Hampshire; I don't remember
> which it was--she's been straddling the border for a while).
>
> It seems like a such a silly device, but she loved it--because
> it was her `connection'; I wrote a short blog-entry about it, at the time:
>
>
> http://www.hackerposse.com/~rozzin/chronicle/jenny-and-the-wikireader.html
>
> I'd initially lent her mine for a couple of weeks, just to get an idea
> of `what real people think'; then she returned it. When given her own,
> she said:
>
>"Oh! I've been so *lonely* without it--whenever I have a question,
> I think `oh, I'll just... *oh*..., I don't have it anymore!'"
>
> I also wrote some longer posts around the time when I bought mine,
> exploring, to some extent, some socio-economic and other elements
> that seemed to support the notion of tapping the `lower 90%' market:
>
>http://www.hackerposse.com/~rozzin/chronicle/the-wikireader.html
>http://www.hackerposse.com/~rozzin/chronicle/wikireader-review.html
>
> (though, on further reflection..., considering that there are all of
>  10 people in Vermont--even fewer than New Hampshire's 100-person
>  population...)
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Re: drive recovery of dual-boot system

[David Hardy]

Not only Dell desktops, but I just ran into the same issue of not being
able to boot from a CD on an HP machine, which boots fine from a USB stick.
 Also had problems bringing up the BIOS with the keyboard plugged into a
USB hub but it worked fine when connected directly to the box for some
reason.

This was all a result of trying to replace an existing o.s. with CentOS on
the HP box, and despite booting from the stick it froze on kernel panic
right away.   So I did a netinstall from the CentOS site and it worked like
a charm.   For any future sys rescue work, I will have to use the USB stick
versions, I guess.



On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
g...@freephile.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Mike Bilow wrote:
>
>> Filesystems (and therefore "fsck" targets) reside on partitions of the
>> disk, something like "/dev/sdc3", rather than the entire device (or an
>> image of it). This is inherent in the design of the system and is
>> independent of the types of filesystems or how they are mixed.
>>
>>
> Thanks Mike, I knew that, but somehow thought that there was some magic
> that I didn't know or understand that would make the computer do what I
> wanted as opposed to what I told it to do :-)
>
>
>> In order to access partitions within an image file, you want the "kpartx"
>> utility:
>>
>>http://linux.die.net/man/8/**kpartx
>
>
> Ahh, that's the part that was missing from all the tutorials/manpages/faqs
> that I've read.
>
>
>>
>> Also, those annoying Dell machines that will not boot from CD will boot
>> from USB Flash memory, and it is easy to make one up with SysRescueCD:
>>
>>http://www.sysresccd.org/**Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_**
>> install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_**USB-stick
>>
>> Thanks, I plan to give that a try and I'm also going to investigate
> setting up a computer on USB stick for my kids.
>
>
>>  On 2012-01-26 00:47, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote:
>>
>>> I have an internal hard drive that won't boot.
>>>
>> [snip]
>
>>  The bad drive in question is 250GB and has a number of partitions and
>>> file system types:
>>>
>> [snip]
>
>>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
>>> /dev/sdc1   1   7   56196   de  Dell Utility
>>> /dev/sdc2   81966157286407  HPFS/NTFS
>>> /dev/sdc3   *19665881314539617  HPFS/NTFS
>>> /dev/sdc45882   30401   1969569005  Extended
>>> /dev/sdc55882   29402   188932401   83  Linux
>>> /dev/sdc6   29403   30401 8024436   82  Linux swap /
>>> Solaris
>>>
>>> I succeeded in creating a copy of the Linux partition using ddrescue
> (also called gddrescue in Ubuntu).  There were a few errors found and
> corrected by fsck.  I'll post more details later but at this point I'm
> pretty happy to have my data.
>
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Re: Accessing partitions in drive images

[David Hardy]

To add to the general levity and amusement here, OS/2 is actually still
extant in some corners of the giant IBM complex up here in northern
Vermont.

And our issue laptops are Lenovo Thinkpads, with XP or 7, but we can, with
permission, put Red Hat, Fedora or Ubuntu on them.   IBM is heavy on Red
Hat up here and now there are reports they are also looking at Ubuntu for
servers.   We have about 2,500 RH x86 and blade servers in a dozen or more
clusters, running, so far, only 5.3 and 5.6, while looking to CentOS
releases for stability information as they come out before moving to newer
RH.



On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jon "maddog" Hall  wrote:
> >>   I started looking into this more today, and quickly rediscovered how
> >> much of a giant pile of kludges the IBM-PC is.
> >
> > The IBM PC was released in 1981.  You expected something other than
> > "kludges"?
>
>   Heh.  Anything old will have its share of historical accidents, to
> be sure.  But there's reasonable design failings, and then there's
> design by the infinite monkey method.  As much as I live and play in
> the IBM-PC world... much like laws and sausage, it's best not to look
> too closely at the innards.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Vendor independent certifications?

[David Hardy]

What Jerry just said.

Working in IT on and off since 1984 and looking at, starting, and trying to
complete, several certification paths during that time, it was more or less
a fool's game.  No sooner did we come close to finishing a cert, in Windows
NT, for example, then Microsoft had a whole new cert process in place along
with a newer o.s.  (this was when a couple of iterations of my PHB manglers
forcibly kicked me out of the VMS world into Windows).   Same with the
other vendors, to varying degrees.   And of course we've all seen the paper
cert and braindump stuff by now and the unpredictability of what HR people
look for on resumes and applications.

That said, I would venture to guess that if somebody was just starting out
in IT and/or making a change to it as a possible career field;  I'd mention
that while I am not qualified to speak much about programming and
development stuff,  that networks are close to bedrock worldwide and having
a good solid grounding in that would be very desirable.  The CompTIA
Network + path would be a possibility, as a vendor-neutral cert, but I
would also mention that Cisco apparently runs on 80% of the world's
networks now, so maybe CCENT or CCNA, etc.

The 80% rule supposedly applies again to Linux, with Red Hat running on
that percentage of enterprise-level Linux systems, so maybe the RHCSA/RHCE.


Ordinarily I'd mention security as a foundation of IT learning, but I am
pretty cynical about that from years of cop work and then having to mess
with it before and currently at various gigs and discovering that it is
routinely ignored, dismissed, looked at exclusively as a cost, and treated
more or less contemptuously by PHB manglers and the higher-level execs and
suits.   Thankless, in other words.

Other than that, and obviously talking out my you-know-what as a fossil sys
admin and former BOFH, I would only say that if possible, get intern and
project experience and go to install-fests, meetings, LUGs, and get on
email lists, etc., etc.  Network and talk to people, ask for help, etc.


On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> In my experience, in the Unix/Linux marketplace for developers, I have
> not really seen where certifications are meaningful. Even in the area of
> system admins, things change so fast that certifications don't mean that
> much. There are some areas where certifications help, but that is in the
> Microsoft area. A lot of Windows admin people like to have all these
> certifications.
>
> As I alluded to above, IMHO, certifications tend to be living in the
> past. Things change so fast in our industry that by the time a
> certification qual is developed and made available, and people take it,
> things are already old and out of date.
>
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Re: I'm considering a new laptop, looking for experiences.

[David Hardy]

My own day job has me with a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 which has been pretty
solid and fast.  It came with XP and is ready for 7 and I have a vm on it
with CentOS 6.   The company is now issuing more Thinkpads that come with
8GB RAM and an option of RH, Fedora or Ubuntu.   The RH laptop of a
colleague is blazingly fast.

I got spoiled, though, by a Lenovo IdeaPad, and prefer lugging that around
to toting the laptop.  The IdeaPad has 2GB RAM and is running WattOS very
nicely.



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>
> My $DAYJOB has provided me with a rather capable Lenovo ThinkPad  CORE i7
> W520.
> rather large for the daily commute the size of the power brick is
> unreasonable looks like an actual
> full size brick.
>
> Never had problems running Linux on the ThinkPad products.  Unfortunately
> it was pre-installed with
> Windows7 (32 bit), I added a VirtualBox openSUSE 586 12.1 XCFE  machine.
> Intel Gigabit Network Card.
>
>
>
> Michael Nolin
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> 3 Bradford Street, Windham NH 03087
> http://embedded-unlimited.com
>
>
> On Thu Apr 12 14:10 , Bill Freeman ** sent:
>
> **
>
> My Acer is scaring me. Sometimes at startup it goes into an infinite
> reboot loop. The way out seems to be to force power off, flex the
> case and whack it a few times, after which it boots.
>
> So, I'm considering replacing it. Last round I insisted on an AMD
> CPU, but I'm currently drawn to an i7 or i5.
>
> I know that lots of folks swear by the ThinkPads, and I will consider them.
>
> I'm not really willing to consider Compaq/HP, Gateway, or Apple, and
> I've found Linux on Toshiba to be troublesome in the past.
>
> Can anyone offer personal experience stories on the Dell Inspirons?
>
> Any additional suggestions?
>
> Any bad experiences with the i7 CPU?
>
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Re: USB (*gasp*) modem?

[David Hardy]

Well, what was the *other* qualification you and your colleague came up
with the other day?  Enquiring potential nerds wanna know.



On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
wrote:

> Ben Scott  writes:
> >
> >   If the laptop doesn't have an RS-232 port, one can obtain
> > USB<->RS232 adapters for small money.  The later are a
> > well-established product with a universal interface (USB serial
> > communications class.  They shouldn't need vendor-specific drivers
> > under any OS that supports USB.
>
> Oh, you'd be surprised. Apparently there are a zillion different
> USB<->RS232 adapter chipsets, and a zillion different drivers
> required to drive them. Linux is in good shape here, but some
> of other OSes..., not so much. Mac OS X, for example, needs
> third-party drivers to be able to use the most popular adapter-chips--
> and what's more, the drivers apparently suck and tend to crash the whole
> OS.
>
> > These also come in handy for connecting to the serial consoles on
> > routers, switches, and other IT gear.  Small pieces, loosely joined.
>
> It's funny--I was discussing working definitions of "nerd" with
> a colleague, the other day..., and one of the two qualifications
> that we came up with was something like `carries a multitude
> of interconnectable devices'
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Re: USB (*gasp*) modem?

[David Hardy]

Guilty as charged.



On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
wrote:

> Robert Casey  writes:
> >
> > I do love hoppy beer, and peripherals!
>
> Oh, right--"peripherals" was the word I was trying to remember,
> where I used "devices".
>
> Preoccupied trying to get my inbox down below 600 unhandled messages,
> tonight
>
> --
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>
> > On May 13, 2012 9:16 PM, "Joshua Judson Rosen" 
> wrote:
> >
> > David Hardy  writes:
> > >
> > > Well, what was the *other* qualification you and your colleague
> came up
> > with
> > > the other day?  Enquiring potential nerds wanna know.
> >
> > "Appreciates hoppy beers".
> >
> > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen <
> > roz...@geekspace.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben Scott  writes:
> > > >
> > > >   If the laptop doesn't have an RS-232 port, one can obtain
> > > > USB<->RS232 adapters for small money.  The later are a
> > > > well-established product with a universal interface (USB
> serial
> > > > communications class.  They shouldn't need vendor-specific
> drivers
> > > > under any OS that supports USB.
> > >
> > > Oh, you'd be surprised. Apparently there are a zillion
> different
> > > USB<->RS232 adapter chipsets, and a zillion different drivers
> > > required to drive them. Linux is in good shape here, but some
> > > of other OSes..., not so much. Mac OS X, for example, needs
> > > third-party drivers to be able to use the most popular
> > adapter-chips--
> > > and what's more, the drivers apparently suck and tend to crash
> the
> > whole
> > > OS.
> > >
> > > > These also come in handy for connecting to the serial
> consoles on
> > > > routers, switches, and other IT gear.  Small pieces, loosely
> > joined.
> > >
> > > It's funny--I was discussing working definitions of "nerd" with
> > > a colleague, the other day..., and one of the two
> qualifications
> > > that we came up with was something like `carries a multitude
> > > of interconnectable devices'
> >
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Re: NVidia looses 200 megabuck order due to poor Linux support

[David Hardy]

Very nice.



On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>
> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/nvidia-loses-order-due-to-poor-linux-support-20120628/
>
>  I believe I speak for many Linux fans when I say: HA HA!
>
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Re: Computer show Saturday, in Manchester

[David Hardy]

Pretty much the same experience here that Ben has illustrated, since 2000.
 We run RHEL at work on around 2,500 racked servers and Legal hath decreed
that CentOS ist verboten.  Und VLC ist verboten on any system.  Among other
things that are verboten.

At home I've got Ubuntu 12.04 on an ancient Toshiba laptop that was an XP
machine owned by the state of Vermont, gotta be ten years old now, just to
say I could do it.   Don't use it for much.  My other desktop now also runs
RHEL 6.2 and I have given up on all the other distros.   My very first
distro was RH 6.2 on a desktop twelve years ago.   What goes around comes
around, I guess.

And I have Win7 Ultimate on a desktop pretty much just for our media/home
theater setup;  when I get enough time that I wanna futz around getting an
open source media equivalent, I will probably do so.



On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Roger H. Goun  wrote:
> > Ah, OK, I'd been using Yggdrasil in 1993-94, so it wasn't. But it was
> > when I started a long run of using Red Hat.
>
>   Ah, Yggdrasil.  "Plug and Play Linux". It was a "live CD" distro
> back before that term was invented.  It took bloody ages to boot on a
> 2X CD-ROM with 8 MB of RAM, but it worked.  Much like the dancing
> bear: It's not that it dances well, it's that it dances at all.  I
> remember playing with it in the lab at UNH I worked in at some point.
>
>   I ended up using that Red Hat 2.1 disc for the first install on a PC
> I owned.  At the time, nix seemed pretty weird to me, since I had
> mainly used OSes descended from QDOS (such as MS-DOS, OS/2, and
> Windows 95).  It wasn't until I started reading the man pages for the
> shell and the kernel and the filesystem that I began to see there was
> actually a *design* to that OS.  I remember at one point remarking,
> "There's a certain insane elegance to all this".
>
>   I tried Slackware once.  I remember the installer got confused and
> tried to install LILO on the CD-ROM, and then tried to eject the hard
> disk.
>
>   I ran classic Red Hat Linux for years.
>
>   I tried SuSE for a while, but ultimately decided it had basically
> the design aesthetic as Red Hat, but with less third-party support.
>
>   Tried Mandrake for a bit.  Ditto.
>
>   Ran Ubuntu for a while, but got tired of their goofy pointless
> changes with no escape to the way it was before.
>
>   Ran Fedora for a while, but got tired of their goofy pointless
> changes with no escape to the way it was before.
>
>   (Aside: At work, we're mainly a Microsoft shop.  I'm tired of their
> goofy pointless changes with no escape to the way it was before.)
>
>   Currently, at home, I'm on Debian, because dammit, if I just want to
> run FVWM and xterm and emacs, there's no problem with that.  It'll
> even let me mix in the occasional GNOME or KDE program without having
> to jump through hoops to avoid the rest of it.  The glacial release
> pace means I rarely am raced with an upgrade-or-die scenario.
>
>   At work, for the Linux servers, we run CentOS, because RHEL has the
> broadest industry support.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Delayed mail from GNHLUG?

[David Hardy]

Same here yesterday morning for an hour or so;  Gmail crashed as did
Chrome.  It was on their end and made the news.



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Bayard Coolidge  wrote:

> Me, too - I'm using Yahoo! mail. I've seen the same phenomenon
> occasionally on another list that I'm
> on that uses an entirely different server.
>
> Season's Greetings,
>
> Bayard
>
>   --
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> *To:* Kyle Smith ; Greater New Hampshire LUG <
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Delayed mail from GNHLUG?
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:04:17 -0500, Kyle Smith  wrote:
> > Anyone else just get roughly a weeks worth of mail from the list at once?
> >  I'm on GMail.
>
> Yes and no. I got some as far back as 11/15.
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Re: Delayed mail from GNHLUG?

[David Hardy]

With all due respect to other nerds on this list, from what I have seen of
Ben's information and help over twelve years entitles him to endless nerd
points.  He gets a permanent free pass.



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Roger H. Goun  wrote:

> Fortunately, the nerd points that Ben lost by committing an elementary
> sysadmin mistake he got back through the form of his apology.
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Kyle Smith  wrote:
> >> Anyone else just get roughly a weeks worth of mail from the list at
> once?
> >
> >   There was an issue[1] with the GNHLUG Internet server.  Mail was
> > being queued for the list server to process, but wasn't going any
> > further.  Once the problem was cleared, all the accumulated mail let
> > lose at once.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > [1] The log partition was full.[2]  This caused the list server to shut
> down.
> > [2] Turns out somebody[3] forgot to set-up log rotation for the web
> > sites it hosts.
> > [3] That would be me.[4]
> > [4] Sorry 'bout that.
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Re: Google Apps Scripting (preview article for Linux Magazine)

[David Hardy]

Nice, Greg;  congrats on its inclusion in the next issue.





On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
g...@freephile.com> wrote:

> I'm going to be revising this to be more 'play by play' narrative, but
> this article will be in the next edition of Linux Magazine.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18qplc5P4zYEmbZ289aDgRArsMR3c5aDyUTdcupBjHVk/edit
>
> Comments welcome.  Hope you like it.
>
> Greg Rundlett
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Re: The Linux

[David Hardy]

I have Fedora as a vm and yes, it runs Unity.  Takes some getting used to;
 I have had various Ubuntu versions from 5 through 12.10, and Fedora from 6
through 18 now;  also have tried OpenSuSe, briefly, Mint, WattOS,  CentOS,
Scientific Linux, and Red Hat from their desktop distro 6.2 through the
current RHEL 6.4.

I used to like Ubuntu but recently not so much, due to constant updates
that bork the hardware configs, and other business-related matters.  Plus
trying to look as much like W8 as possible and rushing into the cell phone
and tablet markets.

So I have Fedora 18 at home next to a RHEL 6.4 box and at work we run RHEL
5.3 through 6.1.

YMMV, of course.


I

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> Confirmed, but you have to download it from OpenSuSE.
>
> On 03/22/2013 12:48 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> > I read somewhere that Unity is available on Fedora now.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:
> >
> >> On 03/21/2013 04:37 PM, Drew Van Zandt wrote:
> >>> I find Ubuntu tasty for desktops, but not quite baked enough for
> >>> servers.  Debian is nice and meaty for that, and the two are quite
> >>> similar.
> >>>
> >>> Tastes vary, though.
> >>>
> >> Linux mint looks ok on the desktop also, it is based on Ubuntu. I use
> >> Fedora on my home desktop and it works well. The Boston LInux servers
> >> are running CentOS (based on RHEL). The bottom line is what others are
> >> saying, tastes vary. There are certain areas on a server where I will
> >> opt for a Red Hat based solution because some of the components are
> >> maintained by Red Hat. Ubunbtu seems to be branching as a Windows 8
> >> alternative on traditional computing, as well as tablets, smartphones
> >> and hybrids.
> >> Ubuntu is based on Debian but has more frequent release schedules.
> >> Repositories are Debian based, Deselect/apt.
> >> Fedora and OpenSuSE are based on RPM/yum repositories.
> >>
> >> So, the bottom line is that you should look at your personal
> >> requirements. I find that Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and OpenSuSE are very
> >> easy to install, and you can download live CDs. There are also a
> >> plethora of desktop options, such as Gnome (2 and 3), Unity (Ubuntu),
> >> Mint has the Cinnamon and Mate desktops, Fedora uses Gnome 3 by default,
> >> but in all you can select different desktops like KDE, or XFCE.
> >> Additionally, Fedora and Open SuSE can be installed from a live CD, but
> >> also from a DVD that contains just about everything.
> >>
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Re: The Linux

[David Hardy]

I second Jerry's tip on turning on virtualization in the BIOS, if possible.
 Do it before setting up Virtual Box or VMware Player.

My Fedora is a vm in Virtual Box under W8 (I had to have W as a backup for
wife's dying laptop running Vista). I can jack up the RAM to 32GB and run a
whole bunch of vm's in it.

Also playing Real Soon Now with how the KVM stuff works in RHEL 6.4.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> On 03/22/2013 12:44 PM, David & Tina Ohlemacher wrote:
> > I would recommend:
> > - Install VMWare player (free) or Virtual Box (free/open).
> > - Try distros within virtual machines. You may install directly from
> > an iso, no disks to burn.
> > - Check out distrowatch.com 
> >
> > Personally: Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE w/ XFCE).   It is not
> > Ubuntu based as is regular Mint. It is a rolling distro, which I like.
> >
> Settting up a VM for Linux is pretty simple, and I agree with you here.
> You don't need a large machine for running virtual servers. For
> instance, my Acer Aspire One netbook with an Atom processor and 1GB of
> memory is running Linux Mint14 with VirtualBox as the VMM, and Windows
> XP and Ubuntu 12.10 as the guest OS. Virtual Box and VMWare Player both
> work well under Windows. Just one caveat. If you can turn on
> virtualization support in the BIOS you will get better performance. It
> is off by default on all systems I am aware of. Nearly all desktop
> systems today have virtualization support , but many laptops do notr.
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Re: Resume length and history

[David Hardy]

I'm nearly sixty and have had a bunch of jobs over the decades, not all of
them IT and not all of them Linux.  So I tailor the resume to the specific
position and keep it to two pages, max.  I then expand on whatever in a
cover letter and interview, if I get one.  I've seen other peoples' resumes
and it is as you describe;  no consistency and everything from cryptic
geek-speak acronyms to web-based sound-and-video productions to eight pages
of small print listing the person's detailed life history.  I have also
help to edit/fix resumes for people and had them down to nice, concise,
informative two-page deals and then they insisted I hadn't included enough
info and gone back to their four- and six-page horrors and never got called
for an interview thereafter, becauseyesthe screening HR drones
tossed them instantly.

It is also worth noting that the last stat I saw on this indicated that
there is a roughly four-percent retention and examination of resumes in
general.  The rest, 96%, are tossed.

In my half-century of experience, jobs are gotten by getting via hook or
crook to the hiring manager and showing them how you can help them/make
their job easier.  Period.

Regards from northwestern Vermont, under the F-16s




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> Hi All,
>
> Not specifically Linux-related, but I was wondering what other people are
> seeing/doing with resumes these days. I have seen everything from a 2-page
> resume for someone with 20 years of experience to a 15-page resume for
> someone with 2 jobs over 3 years (it looked like the output of cat
> ~/.bash_history). How far back should a resume go? How long should it be
> before you stop reading it? I'm seeing absolutely no consistency in
> resumes, and the ones that come from recruiters seem to be the worst
> formats.
>
> C-Ya,
> Kenny
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Re: Reminded me, Video web cam?

[David Hardy]

I've had two Logitech webcams, one cheap, one not so cheap;  the latter is
an HD Pro Webcam C920 and works great ($75 on Amazon).


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Curt Howland  wrote:

> I've been thinking of picking up a webcam for use in hangouts, skype,
> etc, and I don't want to spend the money for something that isn't
> going to work.
>
> Anyone have any problems with the mainline brands like Logitec, or
> some of the, ah, cheaper ones?  :^)
>
> Cheap is good.
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Re: Btrfs -- awesome, or... well, awesome?

[David Hardy]

Just subscribed there;  looks very good and very interesting.  Thanks for
the tip.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio  wrote:

> Okay, so my bias is showing a little.  And, yeah, I've even lost data to
> it -- but that's kinda what happens when you play with alpha releases of
> filesystems.  That being said, while nobody would be dumb enough to call
> it "stable" yet ("stable filesystem" is a journey, not a destination),
> it's a fair ways along that road.  So Linux Weekly News (the *best*
> hard-Linux news site in existence, IMNSHO) did a series:
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/576276/
>
> Enjoy!
>
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Re: Linux-friendly USB 802.11n

[David Hardy]

I have a couple of HP Pavilion desktop machines that came with
Qualcomm/Atheros ethernet controllers, and RHEL 6 on up and its downstream
clones will not give me net on them;  I've been through countless sites,
RH's support tickets, Bugzilla, the elrepo guys, etc., and there is just
not a driver out there yet that will work, and RH says in effect that
they're in no hurry to write one, either.  I can run Fedora 20 on them
without a problem, however, and I didn't have to do anything extra to get
the net working;  I can also run RH and the clones as vm's under that, as
they are forced to use the host's ethernet.   But just can't do RH as the
host machine on them.

That penguin wireless adapter looks interesting but again, not much help
for me here:

*"Trisquel 6, Scientific Linux 6.4, RHEL 6.4, CentOS 6.4, and Debian 7
currently require the installation of a driver, firmware, and/or kernel
upgrade. See our support documentation
 for details."*

Except when I look at the documentation link, there is nothing for RH or
the clones.




On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Shawn O'Shea  wrote:

> I was curious about this and googled around. There seem to be a lot of
> sites identifying compatible adapters, but one of the more interesting site
> I found that I had never seen before was Think Penguin, a site dedicated to
> Linux compatible hardware. Their wifi adapter is $54 and expressly calls
> out compatibility with pretty much every modern distro and version.
>
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
>
> -Shawn
> On Mar 16, 2014 1:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Hello, all,
>>
>> I'm looking for a "Linux-friendly" 802.11n (Wireless N) USB adapter.  By
>> "Linux-friendly", I mean I'm looking for one that will work with
>> in-kernel drivers (no separate module to compile & install), without
>> funky compatability layers (like NDIS wrapper), doesn't require extra
>> firmware, and is free/open source.
>>
>> I figure N is mature enough, now, that some hardware like this must
>> exist.  Any suggestions?
>>
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Re: "Attention, graying geeks: Send me your BASIC memories, as the language turns 50" -- David Brooks

[David Hardy]

We only had sticks to scratch into mud bricks, but there were no trees so
we had to organize caravans into the mountains and then carry the logs back
ourselves in desert heat and sand.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Dan Jenkins  wrote:

> On 4/10/2014 4:42 PM, Ray Cote wrote:
> > you had 0s and 1s? All we had  were ups and downs (toggle
> > switches)...
>
> I just had holes.
> (paper tape and punch cards)
>
> Yes, and up and down too.
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Re: "Attention, graying geeks: Send me your BASIC memories, as the language turns 50" -- David Brooks

[David Hardy]

...while blindfolded because IT security had it as a secret route.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:08 PM, David Hardy 
> wrote:
> > We only had sticks to scratch into mud bricks, but there were no trees
> so we
> > had to organize caravans into the mountains and then carry the logs back
> > ourselves in desert heat and sand.
>
> ... uphill both ways.
>
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Re: how dumb is this idea?

[David Hardy]

What comes to mind immediately, and this may not be workable for you in
that situation;  why not a Tails USB stick with persistence enabled?
 Internet would then also good.  But will the schools even allow any of
this at all?


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, David Rysdam  wrote:

> My kids and I are 100% Linux at home. (My wife has a Mac, which none of
> us touch unless we absolutely have to.) At school, it is unfortunately
> obvious the kids use Windows. Also, starting in middle school, the
> school expects every kid to carry a USB drive back and forth so they can
> work on projects.
>
> I've had some problems providing support for this, to put it mildly. For
> something like a paper, the solution is obvious: write in plain text and
> dump into Word at the last minute. (The solution is obvious, but no
> child of mine has listened to me yet. That's something I don't think
> GNHLUG can help me with.) But for something like PowerPoint, the
> solution isn't so obvious. They have to be able to edit it in both
> places, during in-class work periods and as homework.
>
> I don't know what the school expects people to do if they can't afford
> Office at home.
>
> However, I just had an idea. You can get 128GB USB drives on ebay for
> ~$20 now. Why not install an emulator-based (as opposed to bootable)
> "live CD" image on there that they can then mount the rest of the USB
> drive with and edit their work in Linux *even at school*?
>
> They probably won't be able to get on the network with it, which is fine
> since the host Windows OS could handle that.
>
> Transferring documents (for printing, say) may be a problem, although I
> assume the live CD images somehow manage it. Oh wait, to reap the
> benefit you'd have to print *from Linux* which probably won't work even
> if you had the right printer driver set up. Well, print at home, I
> guess.
>
> I don't think security would be a problem unless there's now some way to
> prevent someone from starting an app off their USB drive.
>
> The only real issue I can think of horsepower: Does the school hardware
> have the oomph to support this hack? I'll have to ask my kids what the
> school has.
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Re: Is bcache ready for enterprise production?

[David Hardy]

A possibly relevant comment on bcache not being in RH 7 here:

http://serverfault.com/questions/616129/centos-7-bcache


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Alan Johnson  wrote:

> I'm in the process of replacing a FreeNAS install at $WORK with Linux.  I
> currently have Ubuntu 14.04 installed so that I can try bcache.  It is
> teir-2 storage, but of course every one gets fussy if it is down no matter
> how much we tell them not to put really critical stuff there, and of
> course, we don't want any real data corruption risk.
>
> I have a compelling reason to use it: to protect against performance
> issues leading to availability issues, which is something that bit us hard
> with FreeNAS/ZFS on this box.  I know the kernel devs have blessed it in
> 3.10, but RH left it out of RHEL 7​, but the only reason I have seen so far
> being it was not in the Fedora 19 kernel and RHEL 7 is based on Fedora 19.
>  They brought in a newer kernel for RHEL 7 but left some of the new
> features behind.
>
> I have a lot of FUD that is making me not want to use it, mostly driven by
> a terrible couple of years with FreeNAS/ZFS.  So, what I'm looking for is
> some REASON not to use it.  If we can't find any, we will probably give it
> a go, but the history of this box makes any "new-to-us" feature or
> technology very uncomfortable.
>
> So, does anyone have any bcache horror stories that might not be addressed
> in the 3.13 kernel?  Anyone know any additional details about why RH left
> it out?  Any other relevant information?
>
> 
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Re: Virtual machine host provider recommendations

[David Hardy]

+1



On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mark McSweeney 
wrote:

> > GNHLUG's server is being kicked out of our long-time free hosting.
> Rather than trying to find a new home for the box, I'm thinking I'll just
> buy an account on a virtual machine hosting company, install a new system,
> and transfer to there.  That is the quickest and easiest path, and we do
> not have a lot of time.  Our deadline is JUL 31, roughly two weeks from now.
> >
>
> I'm not sure where the funds will come from but I would like to donate
> at least a small amount to help defray the cost. Not sure to who or
> where the funds should go.
>
> Let me know if I (or others) can help.
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Re: FYI: Comcast Metro ethernet to the home

[David Hardy]

We had Fairpoint over here in Vermont for years and their service was
pretty good, net and landline.  Then last fall we asked to upgrade to their
business account level in hopes of more speed.  Within a couple of days we
had no service at all, zero, and then ensued many weeks of email, snail
mail and phone calls back and forth and getting nowhere.  They also had the
strike going on and apparently temps working the phone lines and going out
to the field calls.  Also reported sabotage of company equipment.

Finally, we also reluctantly switched to Comcast (Saint Albans Bay) and it
was better immediately, but in the past couple of weeks it's been dropping
at random several times a day, no idea why.  And our next-door neighbor
asked me about then how our service was and I mentioned this;  he said his
has been the same and he was fed up.  He was also shocked at how little
we're paying and told me he started out paying that amount, roughly, but
now, three years later, it's three times as much per month.  So he's gone
with the Dish network for tee-vee and net, I guess, and Fairpoint for
landline.  A local ISP outfit evidently has a tower on Hathaway Point,
which is sort of opposite us across the bay here, but direct line of
sight.  I gotta ask him how it is when I see him around again.

I keep hearing how the net is changing the universe and the cloud is
wunnerful and so on but it looks like that's only for the big cities in
Megalopolis.  If we were trying to run a business that relied on the net
here, which we are, it's not working out real well so far.  Or take online
courses and training.





On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Steven C. Peterson 
wrote:

> Auburn is a Comcast territory and is available if you ask, this is not a
> publicly advertised service
> You need to be within 3/4 a mile of a node or splice box if above ground
> or 1/4 of a mile underground.
>
> Quick note on the two options ( I did not know any one other then
> fairpoint and comcast had fiber to the home in the state)
>
>  TDS is running a (G)PON network, this is still fiber and a great service
> if you can get it. this uses an advanced version frame relay / ATM network
> with your wave length sent to 32 to 64 terminals that then sort out your
> data from the rest. this service is cheaper to provide as they only need
> active equipment for 256 homes ( 1: 4 CWDM splitter, followed by a 32 or 64
> w DWDM splitter in the field)
>
> Comcasts fiber service is Metro Ethernet, same ethernet we are all used to
> delivered over single mode fiber. this is a packet switched system with you
> and only you on a wave length between your site switch and the head end
> switch. this is way more costly to deploy but more secure and your able to
> provide much better SLA's.
>
> Also no love lost on Comcast just happen to be very happy with the
> service, at home and at my customer sites, the Enterprise division is not
> the same old Comcast every one is used to dealing with.
>
>   Matt Minuti 
>  July 17, 2015 at 15:53 via Postbox
> 
>
> If only someone offered such nice service in auburn... I'm still on 6/1
> for $60...
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>  July 16, 2015 at 19:01 via Postbox
> 
>  Not sure where your local area is, but many towns served by the telecom
> TDS have, or will soon have, TDSFiber available. For plain old residential
> service at $49+fees, they are offering 100Mbps up to 1 Gbps, triple bundles
> and some discounts during the rollout. A local billboard claims it's the
> fastest residential service in the country, though I'm not sure if that
> discounter Google Fiber or had some disclaimer in fine print.
>
> https://www.tdsfiber.com/where/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Steven C. Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>
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>  As an fyi for any one who wants major bandwidth at home Comcast has in
> our area a Metro Ethernet service for residences
> 505/125mb.
>
> New Hampshire was the pilot test for the 1gb and 2gb services they are
> rolling out down south. They have told all of the new England beta tests
> that they will be moved to 2gb service this fall
>
>  I have been on it since January and it is fantastic, catches $299 per
> month + tax and lease (a cienea metro e switch) 3 year contract. and a $250
> installation fee
>
> Need to be wi

Re: Opinions on Tor?

[David Hardy]

I've used Tor on and off and presently for a few years now and it's worth
supporting, and the more users, the better.

Getting questions answered regarding support issues has been a mixed bag,
however;  ranging from very helpful to snotty and arrogant, i.e., "RTFM and
become a developer like us!"

Nice to hear that a library may be considering it, though.

Best wishes from the shores of Lake Champlain,

Dave

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Kevin French  wrote:

> The EFF has a petition to sign for those who are willing and want to
> support the cause.
>
> https://act.eff.org/action/support-tor-and-intellectual-freedom-in-libraries
>
>
> Kevin French, MSLIS
> Systems Librarian
> GMILCS, Inc.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto:
> gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Lloyd Kvam
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 15:29
> To: Ted Roche 
> Cc: Greater NH Linux User Group 
> Subject: Re: Opinions on Tor?
>
> The library trustees are meeting at 7PM next Tuesday (9/14) at the Lebanon
> Public Library.  (The TOR relay was at the West Lebanon (Kilton)
> Library.)
>
> I plan to attend.  There will be a number of "outside" attendees including
> the ACLU.  While I do think I can talk about the benefits of supporting TOR
> and personal freedoms, feel free to send me any useful ideas, talking
> points, or links.
>
> On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:46 -0400, Ted Roche wrote:
> > Anyone with an opinion on Tor and whether the Lebanon, NH public
> > library should be running a Tor relay is encouraged to contact the
> > library's board as they are considering the issue:
> >
> > "First Library to Support Anonymous Internet Browsing Effort Stops
> > After DHS Email"
> >
> > https://www.propublica.org/article/library-support-anonymous-internet-
> > browsing-effort-stops-after-dhs-email
> >
> >
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Re: Some of you may be interested in signing an H-1B related petition

[David Hardy]

The malice-aforethought intent, in my opinion, is to actually put American
citizens out of work;  I was laid off over two years ago from IBM and our
jobs were offshored to India and Slovakia.  Unemployed ever since, other
than occasional contract and temp gigs, despite twenty years of solid IT
experience across multiple hw and sw platforms, most recently RHEL and
CentOS.

And the government is evidently in bed with the corporations who engage in
this practice.  Asking them to investigate is like unto asking the police
to investigate one of their seemingly endless brutality and/or civil rights
violations.


"The petition is directed at U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and asks
her to launch a formal investigation into the H-1B visa program." - See
more at:
http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf

Somehow I don't feel confident that the AG's office will lift a finger for
us, other than the usual mealy-mouthed PR platitudes and corporate-written
bromides.

Meanwhile they keep telling us how hard it is to find qualified American
workers to do these incredibly complex and intricate jobs.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Bill Freeman  wrote:

> IEEE has an article here about abuse of the H-1B visa, putting citizens
> out of work.  It links to a petition asking the government to investigate.
>
> See the article here:
> http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071
>
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Re: Some of you may be interested in signing an H-1B related petition

[David Hardy]

Hope is better than, and preferable to despair.  Which many of us have had
to struggle with, and yes, some of us had to train our Mexican, Indian and
Slovak replacements.  Or lose benefits and being able to file unemployment
claims.  It's almost a gigantic middle finger held up to us and/or a wet
slap in the face to go through this.

Interesting that they're gonna use RICO for this, though.  Sure, the top
management knew what it was doing.  Gotta keep their country club and yacht
berth fees up to date.  But there I go again, being cynical.

I sincerely hope it's not just Disney that gets sued, however;  plenty of
other corporate malefactors and government enablers.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Greg Kettmann  wrote:

> I'm sure many of us read Slashdot.  At any rate, perhaps there's hope from
> the legal system.
>
> Disney IT Workers Allege Conspiracy In Layoffs, File Lawsuits
> <http://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/01/26/0149230/disney-it-workers-allege-conspiracy-in-layoffs-file-lawsuits>
> dcblogs <http://slashdot.org/%7Edcblogs> writes with the latest in the laid
> off Disney IT worker saga
> <http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/11/24/0337209/disney-it-workers-prepare-to-sue-over-foreign-replacements>.
> According to ComputerWorld: "Disney IT workers laid off a year ago this
> month are now accusing the company and the outsourcing firms it hired of
> engaging in a 'conspiracy to displace U.S. workers
> <http://www.computerworld.com/article/3026332/it-outsourcing/disney-it-workers-allege-conspiracy-in-layoffs-file-lawsuits.html>.'
> The allegations are part of two lawsuits filed in federal court in Florida
> on Monday. Between 200 and 300 Disney IT workers were laid off in January
> 2015. Some of the workers had to train their foreign replacements — workers
> on H-1B visas — as a condition of severance. The lawsuits represent what
> may be a new approach in the attack on the use of H-1B workers to replace
> U.S. workers. They allege violations of the Federal Racketeer Influenced
> and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), claiming that the nature of the
> employment of the H-1B workers was misrepresented, and that Disney and the
> contractors knew the ultimate intent was to replace U.S. workers with lower
> paid H-1B
>
> On 1/26/2016 12:23 PM, Richard Kolb II wrote:
>
> I will sign that, I will also add that I am a SW Engineer with 16 years of
> experience, I've been laid off twice in that least few years, both times my
> job being outsourced to India. I also think that we're not going to get
> much traction, for the same reasons that David mentioned.
>
> On a side note, my father was also working for IBM around the time they
> started outsourcing his job he took an early retirement.
>
> Rich
>
>
> Richard Kolb II
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:46 PM, David Hardy 
> wrote:
>
>> The malice-aforethought intent, in my opinion, is to actually put
>> American citizens out of work;  I was laid off over two years ago from IBM
>> and our jobs were offshored to India and Slovakia.  Unemployed ever since,
>> other than occasional contract and temp gigs, despite twenty years of solid
>> IT experience across multiple hw and sw platforms, most recently RHEL and
>> CentOS.
>>
>> And the government is evidently in bed with the corporations who engage
>> in this practice.  Asking them to investigate is like unto asking the
>> police to investigate one of their seemingly endless brutality and/or civil
>> rights violations.
>>
>>
>> "The petition is directed at U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and asks
>> her to launch a formal investigation into the H-1B visa program." - See
>> more at:
>> http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071#sthash.SWgEL8YT.dpuf
>>
>> Somehow I don't feel confident that the AG's office will lift a finger
>> for us, other than the usual mealy-mouthed PR platitudes and
>> corporate-written bromides.
>>
>> Meanwhile they keep telling us how hard it is to find qualified American
>> workers to do these incredibly complex and intricate jobs.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Bill Freeman < 
>> ke1g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IEEE has an article here about abuse of the H-1B visa, putting citizens
>>> out of work.  It links to a petition asking the government to investigate.
>>>
>>> See the article here:
>>> <http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071>
>>> http://insight.ieeeusa.org/insight/content/policy/255071
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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