[Goanet]'Dual citizenship? NRIs should pay tax too'

2005-02-24 Thread Bosco D'Mello
NEW DELHI: If India gives us citizenship, it should also give NRIs voting
rights. And NRIs should accept the tax obligations too, says noted economist
Jagdish Bhagwati. 

In an exclusive interview to Timesofindia.com , Prof Bhgawati, a member of the
Democratic Party and University Professor at Columbia University, says,
Citizenship rights come along with tax obligations. 

Prof Bhagwati is keen to take up his Indian 'nationality'. He says, As soon as
the dual citizenship comes up, I will regain my old one which I had to renounce
in 1992. I feel loyal to both the countries. One is the country of my origin and
the other my destination. That is true of most people today. I think people are
quite happy to be hyphenated Americans. 

Dual citizenship has become the buzzword in this era of globalization and porous
borders. Prof. Bhagwati says, If you feel dual loyalty is the in thing now, no
body minds it but NRIs will have to accept their citizenship rights with all
other obligations. I have been arguing that if dual citizenship rights are
granted you should also get voting rights. Also with it accept the tax
obligations. NRIs at one level think they are doing wonderful things for you
guys for here and they should be should be given all the rights.

Read the rest of this article @:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1031385.cms

So.Should NRIs pay tax ???


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[Goanet]Musical Concert

2005-02-24 Thread francis braz
Linda’s “EBONY  IVORY ACADEMY”, with her students, presented their inaugural 
Musical Extravaganza and Prize Distribution on Sunday, 30th January 2005, on 
stage, at a Margao School Hall.
 
The students performed individual and duet piano recitals of famous composers, 
selections of non-classical tunes, group dances including the Cha-Cha-Cha and 
Soca, in colourful costumes, all excellently staged and danced.
 
The entire programme was choreographed and conceptualized by Linda D’Costa, an 
experienced and qualified Piano Music teacher for many years, and one who can 
be very proud of a  100% pass rate including over 96% in distinctions.
 
The highlight of the show included the Ensemble of Linda D’Costa (Piano), 
Victor Da Costa (1st Violin), Cheryl Pereira (2nd Violin), Johann Quadros (2nd 
Violin), Robert Fernandes (Cello), performing Waltz Themes from the Golden Age 
of Operetta. 
 
The Chief Guest was Rev. Fr. Joe Rodrigues, President of The Diocesan 
Commission of Sacred Music and Guests of Honour were Rev. Fr. Peter Martin 
Rodrigues, Rev. Fr. Joseph Baptista, Adv. Alvaro Faleiro.
 
The Piano was provided by L.M. Furtado  Co., Panaji, and Anar Creations, 
Margao, stitched the costumes. Local TV Stations and the media covered the 
event.
 
Linda is the daughter of late Thome and late Lucy Pereira (Ex-Nairobi, Kenya  
Betalbatim, Goa) and is part of a talented family where music has not only 
been a way of life but also an instrument of love. Her late parents were 
musicians as indeed are all her four brothers. 
 
Her niece Lucy is a music graduate, composing her own songs and music, often 
playing her keyboard and singing skills with bands in Europe and also at 
Pedro’s Benaulim with an ex-UB40 musician.
 
Linda D’ Costa, a Grade 8 Pianist is registered with the Trinity College and 
The Associated Board of the Royal School of Music (ABRSM) through which London 
professional Bodies she enters her students for examinations in theory and 
practical, for grades 1 to 8.
 
Linda’s initial aim was to be a Concert Pianist, and she spent many long hours 
at her piano, and the conservatoire of music, whilst also concentrating on her 
academic studies at High School.



[Goanet]A note of Thanks

2005-02-24 Thread V Fading
Hi all,
 
I would just like to put on record my thanks to Fred Noronha and Cecil Pinto 
for being reguler contributors to this group. I am in Malaysia and although I 
do not say much, I do read the messages/news posted. It gives me a comforting 
feeling to see a constant - u know - its like coming home seeing family and 
knowing ur home. Fred brings news of events and Cecil never fals to make me 
smile. Waiting for his first edition of Humourous EXPRESSIONS to come out !!
 
Take care all ! Luv Ya.
 
Viveca
(Malaysia)



Re: [Goanet]Re: New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament*

2005-02-24 Thread Bernado Colaco
Teotonio, I wonder what is there to pick and choose
from you historical writings. The anti rethoric is the
same. I am glad that your colours are now changing. As
for 5 centuries of slavery there are many who have
contributed to this statement on this list. You have
never come forward to defend the truth as a histo.
Where do we stand today (in relation to Goa)? Some
have brilliant ideas to step up shop with the
Portuguese lanuguage talent. What Portuguese talent
since 1961?

B. Colaco


 --- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
 Bernado, thank you for your response. But may I 
 request you to stop
 choosing only what suits your tastes? 





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Re: [Goanet] Evolution

2005-02-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just read the article you refer to from the ICR.
Unless my understanding of the article is completely
off, I don't think Mr. Morris was making a case for a
2% population growth rate; rather, he was making a
case against the alarm raised by eugenicists such as
Margaret Mead (founder of Planned Parenthood) who
based their fears on such a growth rate.


Peter,

I have to say that your understanding of the article
is completely off. What you state above refers only to
the first couple of paragraphs of that article with
quite revealing title of Evolution and the Population
Problem.  If you read the entire article, you will
find that Morris makes an argument for a Biblically
mandated recent origin of man based on a constant
population growth rate. He gives a formula to
calculate the number of years that have elapsed since
the origin of man assuming that the entire human
population emerged from one human couple created by
God given whatever the actual value of the population
of the world was around 1800 A.D. When he plugs in a
population growth rate of 1/3%  (not 2%) in the
formula he gets a value of 6300 years for the origin
of man. He says that this is consistent with what is
inferred from the Biblical account. Here are some of
the relevant quotes from his article that you seem to
have missed somehow:

In that case, the length of time required for the
population to grow from 2 people to one billion
people, at 1/3% increase per year is:

n = log(10^9/2)/log(1.00333) = 6100 years

To this should be added the 175 years since 1800.
Thus, the most probable date of human origin, based on
the known data from population statistics, is about
6,300 years ago.

This figure, of course, is vastly smaller than the
usually assumed million-year history of man.
Nevertheless it correlates well not only with Biblical
chronology but also with other ancient written records
as well as with even the usual evolutionary dates for
the origin of agriculture, animal husbandry,
urbanization, metallurgy and other attributes of human
civilization.

Please ask your friend where he got his fallacious
argument for linking the population growth rate with
the origin of man. I am willing to bet that it is from
Henry Morris’s writings or their derivations.


Ergo, the extrapolation is based purely on
demographic trends and recorded natural events which
might have skewed the patterns of population growth.
 

Henry Morris’s (and your friend’s) argument is
completely wrong for the following reasons:

1. It is well known that the rate and direction of
population change has not remained constant throughout
history.  There were times when the world population
declined drastically because of epidemics, wars,
famines, natural disasters, etc. At other times, the
population showed little or no growth at all. The
increased growth rate of up to 2% occurred only in the
last century. One does not have to be Harvard educated
or a friend of Stephen Jay Gould to realize any of
this. Here are the real scientific estimates of world
population over the last 12,000 years, provided by the
U.S. Census Bureau: 
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldhis.html

Please note that the table showing these estimates
says that there were anywhere from 1 – 10 million
people in the world in 10,000 B.C. The original
reference on this is: Thomlinson, Ralph, 1975,
Demographic Problems, Controversy Over Population
Control, Second Edition.

2. It should be obvious to most people today that
there is an overwhelming amount of physical evidence
such as fossilized human skeletal parts, which has
been dated with high accuracy to being at least 80,000
years old.

3. There are well preserved human mummies that are
much more than 8000 years old, e.g. ninety six 9000
year-old Chinchorro mummies from Chile and the 9400
year-old Spirit Cave Man from Nevada covered with
leather moccasins, rabbit-skin blanket, and burial
mats.


My point in citing him and his colleague Stephen Jay
Gould was to say that, in spite of his belief in
evolutionary theory, he can't deny that our human
forebears can't be traced based on population growth
alone--beyond the 6,000 - 8,000 period that we've
been talking about.


It is hard to believe that any scientist would propose
or take seriously such a patently flawed extrapolation
based on erroneous assumptions about population growth
rate. I submit to you that Stephen Jay Gould has never
endorsed such an argument. He has certainly not
written about it. I think this is simply a case of
name-dropping.

Cheers,

Santosh





[Goanet]Lorna

2005-02-24 Thread Francis Rosario
Dear Frederick Noronha,

I am of Goan origin presently residing in Canada. During my last visit to Goa 
I bought a CD of a Goan singer named Lorna.I was fasinated by her voice
and the music and I would like to know the names of all the CD she has 
produced.

Could you please help me to get this list,so that I can order them.The CD that 
I have is called Lorna Forever and is manufactured by V.P.Sinari and Sons.I
would like to be able to write or send E-Mails to Lorna.

Thank you in anticipationDunstan Rosario.



[Goanet]Voice Of The Exploited (1)

2005-02-24 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
GL responds:
Response to Fred's and Sachin's post.
The first paragraph of the original post states:
it's the so called FICTIONAL SEXUAL ESCAPADES of a Priest.
Hope that answers many of Fred's rhetorical questions.

Why did Fred and other protests the Goa VCD?
Was it only because it was funded by the govt. and forced on the kids?
Or was it fictional (very biased) and could lead to a disruption in the
harmony of the Goan community?
How does the message and content of the Goa VCD differ from this SINS
movie? 
Other than, one is historical and the other sexual. I have not seen
either. 

Do we set an environment for the production of Goa VCD or SIN (under the
guise of free press) ANI MAGIR strongly protest the inevitable
end-result?
Regards, GL

Frederick Noronha
With regard to the protests against the movie 'Sins' what is the issue 
about? Are we (i) saying priests, even if the exceptional ones, don't 
indulge in such behaviour (ii) that the film is unacceptable because it
is 
criticism from the 'outside', i.e. it comes from someone who isn't a 
Catholic or (iii) that such themes hurt the sentiments of a section of
the 
people, and hence should not be allowed?

How would be react is the religious of other religions (e.g. the
Sankaracharya of Puri, in real life) was similarly targeted?
I'm not sure where the line between sensitive film-making ends and 
censorship in the name of religion begins. It would be nice to hear what

others feel about this issue. Your thoughts are welcome. FN

Gilbert Lawrence wrote:
 The following post could well be directed to several cyber Goans who 
 are in the habit of doing the same or something similar as Director 
 Vinod Pande. Just because these Goans are Catholics does not give them

 any immunity in doing the same thing as Director Vinod Pande is doing.

 In fact for a minimum we should be holding these Goan Catholics (smart

 though they may consider themselves to be) to a higher standard.

 I am not seeking censorship. But should the cyber-Goa administrators 
 play a role especially with allegations. Or the mailing list becomes 
 nothing more than a sensational tabloid. I noticed the ire generated 
 about wrong information on Thalassemia and other posts. The same 
 should apply to other issues. Regards

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [Goanet]AICU  BCS DEMANDS WITHDRAWAL OF THE MOVIE  'sins' PRESS 
 STATEMENT February18, 2005
 The EditorPRESS STATEMENT

 Re: AICU  BCS DEMANDS WITHDRAWAL OF THE MOVIE  'sins'
 The All India Catholic Union [AICU]  The Bombay Catholic Sabha [BCS] 
 condemns the attempts made by the Director Vinod Pande to 
 sensationalize the so called fictional sexual escapades of a Priest.

 This portrayal of an ordained Priest in such light will hurt the 
 sentiments of the Christian Community as there appears to be a fine 
 dividing line between pornography, truth and fiction.





[Goanet]RE: Defection: bane of Indian politics

2005-02-24 Thread G:o:a-W:o:r:l:d.C:o:m
Dr. Jose,
All your questions will be answered if you go through today's Times of India. 
Good luck.
Read on.
Gaspar Almeida
www.goa-world.com

CM No. 1

A magazine survey rates you as the number one chief minister in the country. 
Do you deserve it? 

The ratings are on the basis of my government's performance. I have gone by 
the BJP's election manifesto in the daily functioning of the government.
But one must also admit that being a new state there is a lot of opportunity 
to work in Chhattisgarh and it is easy to take decisions and implement them. 

Since it is a small state, the regional imbalances are not so difficult to 
deal with. In the past 14 months we focused not only on infrastructure, that 
is sadak, paani etc, but even concentrated on services like the PDS (public 
distribution system). That had a direct impact and people could feel some 
improvement in the system. And since I have been a chief minister for just 14 
months, the anti-incumbency factor isn't there. That shows in the ratings.

How do you know that people are happy with your government?

In all the recent elections starting with the Lok Sabha in May last year to 
the municipal and panchayat polls afterwards, the BJP's vote share has gone up 
in the state. This is a clear indicator that people are happy with the 
government.

We have tried to focus on improving irrigation, agriculture and allied 
sectors. For instance, the number of water pumps installed in the region over 
the last 40 years was one lakh.

We have planned to replicate the same figure in the next three years. Also, we 
have identified one lakh families to benefit from the Rs 600-crore poverty
alleviation scheme. We will give Rs 30,000 to each family as 100 per cent 
grant, and not loan.

Is there any dissidence within the state unit or resentment against you as one 
can see in many BJP-ruled states?

Fortunately, there is no dissidence in Chhattisgarh. In fact, that has helped 
the government to function smoothly.

What about Dilip Singh Judeo?

He is a popular leader and has only contributed to the BJP government's image 
in the state.

Isn't Ajit Jogi also popular as a politician?

People did not accept him. The Congress unit in the state is like an 11-member 
cricket team where everyone considers himself captain. Such a situation is an
advantage for the BJP.

Do you get directives from the party's central leadership on running the 
government?

People in the state consider me as part of the organisation. I am not an 
outsider. I have spent 25 years working in this area and know every bylane in
the state. I have also served as the state unit president. That acceptability 
and familiarity makes it easier for me to function. As for the central
leadership, I am in regular touch with the party president and Vajpayeeji. It 
is a healthy interaction and they guide me. But there is no interference. 

Has the change of government at the Centre affected you in any way? 

The state's development has been suffering ever since the UPA government came 
to power. For instance, an AIIMS-like medical institution has been planned in
Raipur, but only Rs 5 crore has come in for the Rs 300-crore project this 
year. This is not enough even for the boundary wall.

Then, Bilaspur being the biggest railway zone needs more railway lines but 
there is no progress. These are only a few of the instances of discrimination 
by the Centre.

But it is the UPA's Planning Commission which has granted you a 29 per cent 
hike in the plan outlay for 2005-06.

True. I would say that some institutions like the Planning Commission are 
doing a good job. And I am happy about that. But a lot of political doing is
discriminatory in nature. 

Chhattisgarh, like Andhra Pradesh, has to deal with left wing extremism. Do 
you intend to talk to the Maoists? 

If the Andhra Pradesh experiment had worked, I would have considered it. But 
it has not. So there is no question of talking to them, on their terms, at this
juncture. The state is suffering a great deal because of them, routed from 
Nepal to Sri Lanka via Chhattisgarh. And with the crackdown in Nepal, the
troubles have gone up. When one pressure point is sealed, the pressure comes 
out through other outlets. 

Manohar Parrikar was also rated highly as chief minister (of Goa). But his 
government has been dismissed? Do you feel threatened? 

Any chief minister who delivers could be a threat to the Congress. But I would 
also say that I have a lot of regard for the governor's office. All governors 
are not like S C Jamir. Jamir alone could have obliged the Congress the way he 
did. I don't really feel threatened.


--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Gasparbab,
 
 Are you suggesting that defectors be  disqualified
 AND barred from 
 recontesting in the bye election? or just
 disqualified..?
 

=
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, 
when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their 

[Goanet]Re: Goans and caste - ? Consensus statement

2005-02-24 Thread George Pinto
All,

Gilbert's statement is curious and wrong for the following reasons:

1. The vast, overwhelming consensus is that the caste system is alive and well 
among some Goan
Catholics and in the Goa church.  Except for Gilbert, most (all?) of the posts 
appear to suggest
it exists.  So I am not sure what further consensus is needed other than 
Gilbert is now grudgingly
admitting to what is obvious to the rest of us.

2. I am not sure what a few of them happen to be Catholics means?  The caste 
system exists among
some Hindus too. Is Gilbert still being defensive with respect to Catholics 
with an emphasis on
their feelings?

3. Over the last few years, some priests and nuns have written or spoken to me 
privately and have
commended me for my constructive comments where the church needs to improve.  
In addition, I
occasionally receive thanks for my positive comments - the most recent was two 
weeks ago regarding
the great work the Redemptorist Goan priests are doing in social justice 
matters.  In certain
instances, they said they wrote or speak privately as they teach at Catholic 
institutions or are
affiliated with Catholic hospitals, etc. and do not want public comments to 
generate controversy. 
Same with lay Catholics who have written or spoken to me privately. I 
understand but I do not
agree as I think it is important to speak up publicly.  Is Gilbert constrained 
by being in this
group where he cannot speak out without wounding any individual, group of 
individuals, segments
of Goan society or Goan institutions?

Regards,
George

--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 With so many replies to Cornell, here may be consensus statement around
 which many Goan Catholics participating in this thread may find
 acceptable.
 
 
 
 Some Goans still continue to have some deep-seated caste instincts and
 unfortunately a few of them happen to be Catholics. 
 
 This makes a lot more sense without wounding any individual, group of
 individuals, segments of Goan society or Goan institutions. 



[Goanet]Goans and caste - ? Consensus statement

2005-02-24 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
With so many replies to Cornell, here may be consensus statement around
which many Goan Catholics participating in this thread may find
acceptable.

I do not want to sound a linguist. But at the same time the issue of
caste seems to affect our Goan society, judging by the posts it
generates on the net. Hence, rather than loosely / pejoratively calling
Goan Catholics 'casteist' (and worse still drag the Church into it) or
'Catdus' (presumably Catholics who behave like Hindus) we should more
correctly state: 

Some Goans still continue to have some deep-seated caste instincts and
unfortunately a few of them happen to be Catholics. 

This makes a lot more sense without wounding any individual, group of
individuals, segments of Goan society or Goan institutions. Hopefully we
then can continue to have a more intellectual and constructive dialogue
on finding some specific solutions. Regards, GL, Utica, NY.




Re: [Goanet]New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament*

2005-02-24 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
 --- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
 It was approved yesterday and with the highest
 qualification an MPhil
 dissertation  of a Portuguese lady researcher,
 Susana Costa Pinho (with MA
 in Political Science and working presently as
 Journalist) on the 
 Representatives of Portuguese India in the
 Portuguese Parliament (1822-1892)

Teo, could you please confirm then that:

1. Goa had representation in the Portuguese Courts and
later, the Parliament (including that of Salazar), and
that a number of these represenatives were native
Goans;

2. How these representatives were elected;

If possible, please indicate a link to a list of the
names and the periods in which these representatives
were active members or the Courts / the Portuguese
Parliament, even if this link is not in English.

An interesting aside would be if there were any
Goa-related representatives in the Portuguese Courts /
Parliament for regions other than Goa.

This would go a long way to clear the air regarding
the relationship between Goans and Portuguese. 

Regards,

Gabriel de Figueiredo
Melbourne - Australia.
(ex-Ponjekar ani Lotlekar)

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[Goanet]RE: Defection: bane of Indian politics

2005-02-24 Thread jose colaco
From: A:l:m:e:i:d:a:G:(:j:i: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 The members who defect from their parent party should be disqualified 
irrespective of their strength. A byelection should be ordered in their 
respective constituencies by the Election Commission. This is the only way 
to get rid of defection-prone politics.


Dear Gasparbab,
Are you suggesting that defectors be  disqualified AND barred from 
recontesting in the bye election? or just disqualified..?

What if the individual has a fundamental disagreement with the direction of 
the party leaders.

Does he get disqualified AND barred in that situation too?
What if the leaders are like Salazar or Castro or Pinochet?
Do they have a right to dissent? or does the politician merely go with the 
flow?

And why should they resign?  -It is not the politicians whom the MP/MLA 
represents... but the people.

Are you also suggesting that the defectors be disqualified AND barred from 
holding any paid or position of influence in the Govt? e.g. Corporations, 
Akademi etc?

You favourite party of the besht CM got past the disqualification via 
resignation remember.

The reality of the matter is that a Party in Power .is essentially that 
i.e. a Party in POWER.It can even swing the vote to make an independent 
Isidore win .

The real loophole is WHO gets to disqualify WHOM and WHEN ?
What if the Speaker SITS on the disqualification process for a couple of 
years?

What if the Speaker himself needs to be disqualified - even for something as 
simple as 'Inability to count properly'  . How did the Goa chap get to 
18-6?

The sad reality Gasparbab is that Goa which for centuries was stuck with the 
problems of Portugal,  is now stuck with the problems of India.

The main problem with politics and esp Indian politics isn't defection BUT 
corruption. That, my dear friend, is unlikely to change anytime soon.

Sure there is an alternative like a Third Force. But WHO exactly will vote 
for the Third Force? WHo knows about them. WHICH Goa Journal except Goa 
Observer and Gomantak is writing about the corrupt Indian politician.

And WHICH Goa Journo has given the Florianos, Francisco Colacos, Datta Naiks 
etc their due. And WHO knows when they will find the uncorrupted Mathanys? 
After all, Goans have experienced the Radharaos, the Luizinhos, the 
Bandodkars, Ravi Naiks and Mesquittas ...have they not?

The only WYSIWYG Goan politician is Churchill Alemao. What You See Is What 
You Get !

Sadly Gasparbab, Corruption, Corrupt politicians and their financiers in 
business are in Goa to stay.

That is possibly what those jokers mean by Liberation.
From the pot into the fire
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[Goanet]Divo Konkani Award

2005-02-24 Thread Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr
THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR
B.B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, GOA – 403521
 (0832) 2415857,  2415864
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

24 February 2005


DIVO SAHITY PUROSKAR 2004

Every year Divo Konkani Weekly from Mumbai gives Divo Literary Award to
Konkani writers.  For the year 2004 Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J., the director of
Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Alto Porvorim and Konkani novelist and short
story writer Mr. Valerian Quadros were selected.  Fr. Pratap Naik was chosen
for his contribution to Konkani language and research.  The award consists
of Rs 25,000/- each, a citation, a shawl, a traditional oil lamp and a fruit
tray.  The award giving function was held at Dr. Antonio da Silva School
Hall, Dadar West, Mumbai on Sunday February 13, 2005 at 10.30 a.m.  Mr.
Alfred D'Souza was the Chief guest and gave the award to the recipients.
Mr. Benn Lewis, the MD of Benn Electricals Pvt. Ltd. was the guest of
honour.  The award giving function was followed by lunch and Konkani music
programme by Mr. Wilfred Fernandes and his group.



Re: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials

2005-02-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:17:45 -, Eddie Fernandes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Folks,
 
 The  4 week max stay restriction for charter tourists was introduced last
 year as part of the Open Skies policy! ..

 Representations have been made to the authorities since then and to Dr Willy
 when he visited London last August.  He subsequently visited Delhi and urged
 to Minister of Civil Aviation to drop the restriction.  The matter is under
 consideration.
 
 The issue is complicated by a number of possible scenarios - all assume that
 the visitor has a valid visa for the duration of their stay:
.
 3.  The travel agent or tour operator in London who issues tickets for more
 than 4 weeks stay because of customer demand/ unjustified restrictions/
 desire to make a fast buck/etc
 
 There probably are others.
 
 The restrictions on charter flights are Union rather that State matters and
 Dr Willy does not have the power to make changes.
 
 Highlighting such cases  brings bribery, greed and corruption to the fore
 and the publicity to such cases is important.  It is the journalists and the
 NRI Cell who need to follow up these leads.
 
 The  Gomantak Times article on the subject today (24 Feb.) was sent to me by
 Cecil.  The text and the link can be found in today's issue of Goan Voice
 UK - see http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/newsletter/2005/Feb/issue4/
 
 Cheers
 
 Eddie Fernandes
 London

RESPONSE: The picture is now very crystal clear indeed from the
initial hazy portrait that was painted.

Could it be that the 'Gomantak Fernandes' (Travel Agent) and Assis
Fernandes who posted his piece on Goanet are one and the same?

The 'Gomantak Fernandes' claims that his clients complained to him. I
do not see why Fernandes is taking up the cudgel on behalf  of clients
who clearly chose to stay longer than 4 weeks and bought tickets from
'unscrupulous Travel Agents' in Goa.This is what has been stated.
Could it just be, that in fact Fernandes sold his clients tickets in
excess of 4 weeks and his clients are peeved off and seeking redress?
Fernandes in turn is looking to blame someone else for this debacle.

We are now all clear on the matter - the Central Government has issued
the decree, regarding length of stay when flying by Charetered
Airlines. A health warning should be attached to any tickets sold for
more than 4 weeks in the U.K.  This is in fact illegal and contrary to
the Laws imposed by the Government of India. Agents selling these
tickets have to bear responsibility and compensate their clients
accordingly, unless the clients are prepared to accept and bear the
responsibility themselves at the time of booking.

Making a fast buck indeed, come on Fernandes and admit that you sold
tickets contravening the decree passed by the Government of India.

We should be grateful and acknowledge the service rendered by the Goan
Voice's Eddie Fernandes in exposing as well as, praising Goans where
praise is due!

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England.



[Goanet]Email 101... an old but useful (e)book

2005-02-24 Thread Frederick Noronha
If you're (relatively) new to the Net, or even if you're
like me and still need to pick up a lot of things,
then this is the book to go for. It's called EMAIL-101
and is available on Project Gutenberg for free download.
http://gutenberg.net Or simply google for it. FN

This course is intended for the general public--students, businesspersons,
librarians, teachers, writers, journalists--in fact anyone who needs to find
information and communicate with others.  Whether you are researching a
paper, writing an article, or trying to get technical information on a
product, you will use these techniques over and over.

Chapters marked with an asterisk are omitted from this edition.

COURSE CONTENTS
 
1 : The Past and the Future of Internetworking
 
2 : What Is the Internet?
 
3 : How Do I Connect to the Internet?
 
4 : Who Pays for the Internet?
 
5 : Internet Basics
 
6 : Getting on the Internet Step by Step
 
7 : Programs and Pictures
 
8 : File Compression Methods for Faster Transfer
 
9 : What to Do When You Only Have E-mail
 
10 : Employee Development:  How to Get Your Employees Internetworking
 
Part II  Special Concerns
 
11 : Special for Businesses
 
12 : Special for Students and their Parents
 
13 : Special for Writers, Journalists, Publishers, and Printers
 
14 : Special for Elementary and High School Teachers
 
15 : Special for Librarians
 
16 : Special for Scholars
 
17 : Special for Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques
 
Part III  Research, Organization, and Writing

18 : Research Methods I:  Basic Navigation Methods
 
*19 : Research Methods II:  Usenet Newsgroups
 
20 : Research Methods III:  Advanced Techniques
 
*21 : Organizing Information
 
*22 : Information Structures
 
*23 : Boolean Logic
 
*24 : Writing for an Internetworked World:  Basic Problems
 
*25 : Writing for an Internetworked World:  Getting Through to your Audience
 
 Part IV  Resources
 
*26 : The Internet Address Book
 
27 : Bibliography
 
*28 : Glossary
 
Appendix A.  Computer Hints for the *Really* Green
 
Appendix B.  Using a Modem
 
*Appendix C.  Technical Details of an Internet Connection
 
Appendix D.  Just Enough UNIX
 
Appendix E.  The Ten Best Things To Get If You Only Have E-Mail

FN
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[Goanet]Defection: bane of Indian politics

2005-02-24 Thread G:o:a-W:o:r:l:d.C:o:m
Defection: bane of Indian politics

The Indian polity has always been marred by defection by opportunistic 
politicians. 

The latest victim of the defection game is the tiny coastal state of Goa, 
which has witnessed a change of guard following the political border-crossing 
by its state legislators.

The last time time the BJP has hit the jackpot by succeeding in forming the 
government on its own following the merger of the splinter groups of the
Congress into the BJP. Goa has thus earned the distinction of having three 
Chief Ministers within a short span of 15 months.

The game of defection will continue unabated in our country unless the 
relevant schedule in our Constitution is amended. 

Schedule 10 of our Constitution deals with the procedure of political 
defection in which it is stated that if one-third members of a legislative or
parliamentary party defect from their parent party, then they would be 
recognised as a separate entity in the House by terming the defection as a 
legal split. Whereas if a single member or less than one-third members defect 
from their parent party, they stand automatically disqualified from their 
membership.

Is this a fair provision? 

The members who defect from their parent party should be disqualified 
irrespective of their strength. A byelection should be ordered in their 
respective constituencies by the Election Commission. This is the only way to 
get rid of defection-prone politics.

AlmeidaG(ji)
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[Goanet]-Mr Digamber Kamat MLA Margao -- betrays BJP fold enthuses INC led ULA camp

2005-02-24 Thread godfrey gonsalves
Contrary to the normal belief that what is loudly
talked about never happens the Bharatiya Janata Party
MLA Mr Digamber Kamat a Saraswat Brahmin tendered his
resignation to the Speaker of the Goa Legislative
Assembly this morning at 10.32 am,IST after paying
obeisance to the gods at a temple in Quepem.

Mr Naik who earlier returned from Jaipur in Rajashtan,
where some MLAs of the BJP were hurdled away to avoid
poaching by INC MLAs   to attend the Delimitation of
Constituencies Panel sitting in Goa took this
opportunity to hobnob with the ruling INC and struck a
deal.
 
It is not immediately clear  what triggered this volte
face by Kamat coming as it did after having spoken out
loud and clear against the INC members at a largely
attended BJP meet at Azad Maidan Panaji on 1st
February, 2005 i.e on the eve of the special sitting
to test the majority on the floor of the Goa
Legislative Assembly  House on 2nd February 2005 ,
even his supporters in the BJP were spell bound by
this move.  But apparently  the  pressure  from the
Saraswat lobby headed by the  Margao based new
political outfit Lok Shakti under the leadership of
realtor Datta D Naik and company and ex colleagues in
the INC that must have played a decisive roll in this
morning decision.
 
 
As stated earlier by this writer the Goan Saraswat
Brahmin lobby for the first time in the history of Goa
Legislative Assembly   found that none of its members
were in the ruling INC led United Legislative Party 
headed for the time being by Mr Pratapsing Raoji
Rane and assuming that this would have disastrous
effects viz no representation in the Government for
their community prospects may have prevailed upon Mr
Kamat  to take this decisive stand even at the cost of
tarnishing his otherwise fair image. Notwithstanding
the sobriquet he had earned for himself as naal
Kamat for his penchant to crush a coconut at every
inaugural function under the erstwhile BJP led
government.  
 
Even otherwise Mr Kamat has in the past turned to be a
chameleon when he deserted the INC for not being
granted a ticket and joined the BJP some years ago
later he betrayed trusted friend MLA Mr Francisco
Sardinha  ex CM while he was holidaying in kangaroo
country  Australia in October 2000 and the present
move, which indeed least expected by the intelligentia
from an otherwise cultured politician   came as a
shock to beleagured ex CM Manohar Parikar but having
known his penchant for such round about turns Mr
Parrikar had bestowed a near Dy CM status and was
prominently present on all major ocassions even where
he did not hold portfolio.

Even the priests that this writer contacted were
shocked with Mr Kamats move which they say ought to
have come much earlier and not at this juncture.  It
is like hitting below the belt said a shocked nun who
had on several ocassions admired the secular
credentials of Mr Kamat even while in the BJP.  This
is no gentleman expectation said a senior citizen who
may not live to see the next hustings but he was
committed not to vote Mr Digamber Kamat again having
voted for him thrice earlier.

For Mr Kamat hailing from Margao Assembly Constituency
often billed as the cradle of Goan politics after his 
 mentor late  Mr Anant Narcinva Naik (Babu) who roped
him into politics in 1980 as Chairman of the Goa
Agriculure  Produce Marketing Corporation 
and later a Councillor of the Margao Municipal Council
he felt that he had a  still  long way to go and  to
the seat of power as the Chief Executive of the state
and with Parrikar safely entrenched in the seat of
power he perhaps felt that sooner or later he would
not be able to demand plum position .  It may be
recalled that after a sob look in the recent elections
June 2002 Mr Kamat was given the same portfolios he
held when the BJP led government formed its first
government in October,2000 .
 
Whether this move will call for others to follow suit
is doubtful, but one thing is clear that the ruling
INC led ULP combine will now find it difficult to
accomodate, last minute entrants,  and its own
bandwagon of ex CMs ex Dy CMs ex Ministers multiple
times and one time Ministers to the only twelve
positions available --- distributing portfolios will
be again another difficult move for 33 years
experienced CM Pratapsing Rane .

And as thing stands there is a strong rumour in the
air that Mr Rane may just be warming the seats for the
High Command appointed CM Mr Faleiro as it is at her
(Madam Sonia Gandhis ) behest that her blue eyed boy
was included in the Cabinet without seeking for
himself  portfolio until dooms day now 28th February,
2005 at 2.30 p.m. IST when there will be many dramatic
changes but one thing is clear that President's Rule
is the Vox Populi demand.

In the meanwhile the citizens stand a mere spectator
and the Governors role is coming in for sharper
criticism for he had earlier stated when Mr Isidore
Fernandes resigned to seek re-election from Poinguinin
on a BJP ticket that any further resignations would

[Goanet]Charter flights

2005-02-24 Thread David Futers
Afra Dias commented on Dabolim Airport being one which charters land and
no other flights land other than internal Indian flights.

This was the situation in the UK for a number of years when the regional
airports tended to handle the charter traffic and the main London
airports handled to scheduled flights.

As the years go on the regional airports started to take on more and
more schedule flights and one would have hoped Goa would do the same. 

This is perhaps not the case but I do see an Indian Airlines flight goes
from Goa - Mumbai and then to the Gulf.  Perhaps this is the start of a
change in policy

Dave

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[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Feb 24, 2005 * Digambar ditches BJP, quits seat

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PHOTOGRAPHS in today's Herald: * BJP men on their toes. North Goa MP Shripad
Naik and RSS Goa chief Subhash Velingker rushing to Digambar Kamat's house
to take stock of the situation. * Parrikar gets on line: Former CM and BJP
mastermind Parrikar busy chalking out his plains amidst the DK scare. *
Congress on a high: Churchill Alemao flashes his victory sign as a beaming
Margaret Alva and Luizinho Faleiro walk out of the hotel after a marathon
meeting. Photos by Guilherme Almeida (A Guilherme) and Arvind Tengse.

o DIGAMBAR KAMAT is set to leave Parrikar powerless (GT)
  In what could be a stunning blow to the BJP, the
  former number two man in the Parrikar cabinet and
  the party's most loyal face in south Goa, Digambar
  Kamat was on the verge of resigning and pledging
  alleigance to the Congress and the Rane-led government. GT
o PARRIKAR says: I fear danger to my MLAs. (GT)
o BJP tries to pull Kamat back. (GT)
o DIGAMBAR says he is free to take any decision
  on whether to continue in the BJP or not, but said
  he is a committed BJP worker. He said: If I want to quit,
  can anyone stop me from doing so?

o BJP TRIES to pull Kamat back. (GT) A worried Parrikar led
  almost all top leaders to Digambar Kamat's residence
  to stem what could turn out to be the most decisive
  nail in the BJP coffin. Along with Parrikar, the others
  who rushed to the Kamat residence at Margao in the
  evening were BJP state president Rajendra Arlekar,
  saffron educationist Subhash Velingkar Zilla Parishad
  member Prakash Velip, BJP Margao block president
  Chandan Naik, Margao Municipal Council chairperson
  Kamlini Poinguinkar. (GT)
o THEY ARE rumours, says Parrikar. (H)

o CORRUPT IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS 'pound' overstaying tourists.
  Travel agents may complain to Indian High Commission in London
  as UK tourists asked to pay UKP 40 to board return flights. (GT)

o PARRIKAR warns Rane that on the pre-employment scheme he is
  playing with fire and cautioned him against playing with
  the sentiments of the youth. If more than 100,000 people applied,
  it only discloses the number of unemployed in the state of Goa
  and not a fraud as claimed by Rane. (GT) 

o COPS STILL CLUELESS about murder of Nalini Menon's stabbling.
  Nalini (75) was the wife of retired Indian Foreign Service
  officer PTB Menon, who lived at Alto Porvorim. (GT)

o CONTRACT FOR REMOVAL of River Princess modified. 
o WILLY FLAYS Parrikar for theft on River Princess. The
  Cong dy CM says the BJP government allowed the gounded
  River Princess to be stripped during the last four years,
  and demanded action against the person responsible for
  vandalising the vessel. (H)

o Rane's is just an announcement government says Parrikar,
  alleging that it has not been able to implement any decision.(H)
o Rane-led government is non-performing, says Parrikar. (GT)
o Disgruntled BJP MLAs in touch with Congress, says Alva. (H)

o NGOs, corporates should work together to promote Goa's culture, 
  says industrialist Srinivas Dempo. (NT)
o Kala Academy invites applications for booking its 'kala mandir' 
  (main hall) and open air auditorium for quarterly allotment basis
  from April to June 2005. (NT)
o Institute of Psychiatry and Human Behaviour (GoG) advertises
  for two posts of psychiatrists, pay Rs 10,325 pm plus allowances. (NT)

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY: The expodus of political tsunami will continue. No
person with dignity will continue in the BJP ... after the murder of
democracy, rape of constitution and desecration of the office of the
speaker. -- Cong leader Luizinho Faleiro, 8.20 pm statement on national TV.

Goa's goings on will never cease to end. -- Rajdeep Sardesai, editor, NDTV,
and himself a Goan, on the national telecast, 10.20 pm IST.ks

REQUIEM TO THE BJP ERA: The Rane government has a lot of work cut out due to
the utter misrule of the Parrikar Government in the field of education,
health and rural up-liftment. The Congress in Goa has to act speedily to
undo the damage done to the average Goan before it is too late, since

(Corrected) Re: [Goanet] Evolution

2005-02-24 Thread Peter D'Souza
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~Did this evolutionary expert friend get this from
~Henry Morris, the creationist expert and founder of
~The Institute of Creation Research, A Christ-Focused
~Creation Ministry?
~His 1975 article can be accessed here:
~http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-021.htm
~I wonder why even after all these years all normal
~scientists, including Stephen Jay Gould and the other
~Harvard scientists, as well as the Pope have
~disregarded this finding in favor of the conventional
~theory of human evolution.
Santosh,
I just read the article you refer to from the ICR. Unless my
understanding of the article is completely off, I don't think Mr.
Morris was making a case for a 2% population growth rate; rather, he
was making a case against the alarm raised by eugenicists such as
Margaret Mead (founder of Planned Parenthood) who based their fears on
such a growth rate.
A population growth rate is not usually determined by evolutionists or
creationists, but rather by actual demographic statistics. One does
not require an evolutionary scientist to tell you that the population
of India will exceed that of China circa 2025, or that the Goan
population in the diaspora exceeds that of the growth rate in Goa.
Ergo, the
extrapolation is based purely on demographic trends and recorded
natural events which might have skewed the patterns of population growth.
My friend, for the record, is no fan of the Creation Research
Institute. He is a very committed evolutionist and probably knows more
about the subject than do most believers in the theory. My point in
citing him and his colleague Stephen Jay Gould was to say that, in
spite of his belief in evolutionary theory, he can't deny that our
human forebears can't be traced--based on population growth
alone--beyond the 6,000 - 8,000 period that we've been talking about.
Sincerely,
Peter
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Re: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials

2005-02-24 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Folks,
The  4 week max stay restriction for charter tourists was introduced last 
year as part of the Open Skies policy!  At the time I wrote that it would 
inconvenience those who seek to  invest in Goa and buy holiday homes or plan 
to run a business in Goa.   There are some who no doubt believe that such 
investments should be discouraged but that is another matter!

Representations have been made to the authorities since then and to Dr Willy 
when he visited London last August.  He subsequently visited Delhi and urged 
to Minister of Civil Aviation to drop the restriction.  The matter is under 
consideration.

The issue is complicated by a number of possible scenarios - all assume that 
the visitor has a valid visa for the duration of their stay:

1. The tourist who visits Goa for 2 weeks, falls ill, gets a revised 
departure date from the travel agent and seeks to leave Goa after the 4 week 
period.

2. The tourist who arrives for 2 weeks, forfeits the return half of the 
ticket and buys a one-way Goa-London ticket after the 4 week period.

3.  The travel agent or tour operator in London who issues tickets for more 
than 4 weeks stay because of customer demand/ unjustified restrictions/ 
desire to make a fast buck/etc

There probably are others.
The restrictions on charter flights are Union rather that State matters and 
Dr Willy does not have the power to make changes.

Highlighting such cases  brings bribery, greed and corruption to the fore 
and the publicity to such cases is important.  It is the journalists and the 
NRI Cell who need to follow up these leads.

The  Gomantak Times article on the subject today (24 Feb.) was sent to me by 
Cecil.  The text and the link can be found in today's issue of Goan Voice 
UK - see http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/newsletter/2005/Feb/issue4/

Cheers
Eddie Fernandes
London
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- Original Message - 
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:18:35 -, Eddie Fernandes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Assis,
We are grateful to you for this info.  However,
Is it possible to have  legitimate charter flight tickets for over 4
weeks?  I am under the impression that Indian Government regulations
stipulate that 4 weeks is the max.
involvement?
Cheers,
Eddie Fernandes
London
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Assis Fernandes goanet@goanet.org
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:02 AM
Subject: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials
 There is a new racket at the Goa Imigration .Tourists leaving Goa who 
 have
 legitimate tickets to stay for over four weeks are bieng charged in
 Foreign
 currency a fee between £30 £40... to leave Goa.No receipts are given,if
 asked they are told that boarding on flight for which they have checked 
 in
 will not be allowed.!
RESPONSE: I am almost certain that I read News items pertaining to
Charter Flights terminating in Goa. It had been stipulated that people
would not be allowed to stay beyond 4 weeks. I may be wrong, further,
I remember an NRI requesting the Authorities concerned, (last year) to
relax this imposition, on people travelling on Charter Flights. I
believe it was common knowledge among Goans wanting to travel to Goa
on Charter flights for longer periods, that this impediment was in
place. Nevertheless I know of several Goans from London who travelled
by charter for more than the stipulated 4 weeks. When I enquired of
one ticket seller as to the validity of this - the response was that
it was all in order!
Eddie has asked a pertinent and relevant question regarding the
validity and legality of issuing tickets for more than 4 weeks. We
wait with bated breath for a response from Mr. Assis Fernandes. A
substantive response would give comfort to all those who bought
tickets for more than 4 weeks, in good faith, for Charter Flights to
Goa.
I would like to know whether tickets for a  duration of over 4 weeks
was sold with the caveat it would be okay but you bear the risk,  or
whether tickets were sold 'that all was in order'. If the latter was
the case then the people/persons who sold these tickets have a
responsibility to the passengers who coughed up the £30 or £40 to the
extortionists ( if this was the case) or to the Compliance officers at
Dabolim Airport. I too, have heard about these incidents, whereby
money was demanded and given and no receipt was issued.
One can safely assume that those who coughed up, are now seeking
recompense from persons/people who sold tickets for over 4 weeks
duration. These operators are now passing the buck to the Tourist
Minister. In all fairness one should ask where does the buck stop? Dr.
Willy is the new man in - what was implemented was during the reign of
the BJP Govt. Nontheless I am sure the good Dr. will look into this,
to ascertain whether it is a scam or whether 

[Goanet]Jobs...summer placements

2005-02-24 Thread Marjorie Carvalho
Hey Everybody..
I'm a student from St. Xaviers college, and since it is compulsary for us to 
have summer placements( it's a 100 mark project for us) , i'd really be 
grateful if anyone could supply me  information on placements in Bombay. 
ANYTHING other than call centres or the usual door to door 'marketing' jobs 
will do. Preferably in the hospitality industry. Even an accounts or 
marketing job will be fine. I assure you i will be a credit to your 
organisation. :D...

Thanks !
Marjorie


Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in 
sideways, greasy fries in one hand, beer in the other, body thoroughly used 
up, totally worn out and screaming WOOHOO... what a ride!
sOnu..




[Goanet]RE: Honourable?

2005-02-24 Thread Radhakrishnan Nair
(Tony Correia-Afonso wrote: Unless we give up such hyprocrisy and learn to 
call a spade a spade,
we cannot hope for any reform in the system.)

Absolutely true and sound logic as always, Mr Correia-Afonso. But can we 
call a spade a spade? Imagine the consequences if we use the deserving 
adjectives you've mentioned to refer to our rulers in public! Like, the MLA 
from Balatkarwadi, Mr Rapist, the MP from Chorchowki, Mr Thief, etc.

Cheers, RKN
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[Goanet]Ga ga Goa, Portufutball.

2005-02-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnewsid=76971
Goa to have a ball with Portugese soccer trainers:

[India News]: Panaji (Goa), Feb 24 : Five centuries after Portugal
found the sea route to India, the sub-continent is hoping to harness
the southwest European republic's skills to scale greater footballing
heights.

A seven-member Portuguese team landed here Wednesday to train Indian
football coaches of under-12 players.

Officials said Prof. Julio Garganta and Prof. Jorge Pinto from the
University of Porto's faculty of sports sciences and physical
education would be conducting a six-day residential football course
here.

Thirty Indian coaches, including 20 from Goa, would benefit from the
training made possible by an Indo-Portuguese agreement signed Sept
2004, said officials.

Over the six days, the coaches would learn educational and scientific
strategies in training young players.

Officials said the focus would be on offensive and defensive
principles in football, planning training sessions, basic movements
and positions on the field, game analysis and more.

Portugal was one of the 32 countries that qualified for the 2002 FIFA
World Cup held in Korea and Japan. And with football a craze in Goa,
the expectations are high.

Football is key to the Goan character, said Shivanand Salgaocar,
president of the Goa Football Association and treasurer of the All
India Football Federation, at a function to launch the programme.

It's the most significant tie-up. This huge delegation to our small
state shows that despite all these years of separation, Portugal's
heart is in Goa, said Dr Susana DeSouza, Goa sports director.

Goa was a colony of Portugal from 1510 to 1961.

Pedro Cabral Adaosaid, Portugal's consul general in Goa, said that
sports plays the role diplomats need to play - of building bridges
between cultures and people - but in a much more pleasant manner.

Adaosaid recalled Goa's support for Portugal in the 2002 World Cup.
One day, I wish India can reach a World Cup final, with a lot of Goan
players in the team. We will all be so proud, Adaosaid said.

With a population of just 1.4 million in a country of more than a
billion people, Goa has six groups competing in the National Football
League played between 12 teams.

Among the others in the visiting Portugal delegation are Portuguese
Olympic committee president Commandante Vincente Moura and the
director of the Portuguese sports newspaper A Bola.

--Indo-Asian News Service 

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
Wimbledon, England



[Goanet]Catholic Goans and caste

2005-02-24 Thread cornel
Basilio,
Many thanks for the clarification you provided. I will immediately accept, 
from you, that you cannot be rightly placed with Gilbert Lawrence as 
defending the indefensible on caste. However, I must say that your 
preference for dealing with caste among the Catholic Goans is intriguing to 
me. I sincerely  hope it is one workable technique/strategy  among others.
Regards,
Cornel 




Re: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials

2005-02-24 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:18:35 -, Eddie Fernandes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Assis,
 
 We are grateful to you for this info.  However,
 
 Is it possible to have  legitimate charter flight tickets for over 4
 weeks?  I am under the impression that Indian Government regulations
 stipulate that 4 weeks is the max.
involvement? 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Eddie Fernandes
 London
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 From: Assis Fernandes goanet@goanet.org
 To: goanet@goanet.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:02 AM
 Subject: [Goanet]Racket by Imigration officials
 
  There is a new racket at the Goa Imigration .Tourists leaving Goa who have
  legitimate tickets to stay for over four weeks are bieng charged in
  Foreign
  currency a fee between £30 £40... to leave Goa.No receipts are given,if
  asked they are told that boarding on flight for which they have checked in
  will not be allowed.!

RESPONSE: I am almost certain that I read News items pertaining to
Charter Flights terminating in Goa. It had been stipulated that people
would not be allowed to stay beyond 4 weeks. I may be wrong, further,
I remember an NRI requesting the Authorities concerned, (last year) to
relax this imposition, on people travelling on Charter Flights. I
believe it was common knowledge among Goans wanting to travel to Goa
on Charter flights for longer periods, that this impediment was in
place. Nevertheless I know of several Goans from London who travelled
by charter for more than the stipulated 4 weeks. When I enquired of
one ticket seller as to the validity of this - the response was that
it was all in order!

Eddie has asked a pertinent and relevant question regarding the
validity and legality of issuing tickets for more than 4 weeks. We
wait with bated breath for a response from Mr. Assis Fernandes. A
substantive response would give comfort to all those who bought
tickets for more than 4 weeks, in good faith, for Charter Flights to
Goa.

I would like to know whether tickets for a  duration of over 4 weeks
was sold with the caveat it would be okay but you bear the risk,  or
whether tickets were sold 'that all was in order'. If the latter was
the case then the people/persons who sold these tickets have a
responsibility to the passengers who coughed up the £30 or £40 to the
extortionists ( if this was the case) or to the Compliance officers at
Dabolim Airport. I too, have heard about these incidents, whereby
money was demanded and given and no receipt was issued.

One can safely assume that those who coughed up, are now seeking
recompense from persons/people who sold tickets for over 4 weeks
duration. These operators are now passing the buck to the Tourist
Minister. In all fairness one should ask where does the buck stop? Dr.
Willy is the new man in - what was implemented was during the reign of
the BJP Govt. Nontheless I am sure the good Dr. will look into this,
to ascertain whether it is a scam or whether the Compliance officers
are bolstering the states cofffers by ensuring due digilence by
executing their duties.

Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
Wimbledon England.



[Goanet]Catholic Goans and Caste

2005-02-24 Thread cornel
Cecil,
In all my many  posts on the topic of Catholic Goans and caste, you will 
find that, it is very unlikely I personally  used the term Brahmins upon 
whom to focus. I always used, in my preferred terminogy, the term-- the 
casteists. This is because I am entirely aware that casteism is many 
layered and it would be entirely wrong and uninformed to focus only on any 
one named group e.g. the Brahmins. However, when quoting the excerpts 
collected, the word Brahmin, several times, and Chardo once,  inevitably 
crept in  because, for reasons of authenticity,  the data had to be 
presented, as given to me by the informants. I was quite aware of a 
potential problem here but  I hope you can see that I am quite clear that 
casteism, in its many guises, is my central concern and not a specific group 
or groups.
Cornel 




[Goanet]Democracy by Numbers (EPW Editorial)

2005-02-24 Thread Philip Thomas
Excerpt from:
http://www.epw.org.in/showArticles.php?root=2005leaf=02filename=8284filet
ype=html

(Economic  Political Weekly, Feb 19, 2005)
.. ... ...
.. ... ...
The Goan crisis brings to the fore once again questions about the nature of
the checks and balances, the Constitution ostensibly devised to sustain
democratic traditions - the role of the governor, the speaker and whether
the anti-defection law is equipped with necessary safeguards. It is ironical
that in a state more 'stable' than others, Goa's politicians continue to
provide its only source of instability; reshaping and remodelling alliances
to stave off 'instability' is perhaps linked to the very nature of the
state. A population of 14 lakhs has 40 members to represent it; thus for the
voter, individual appeal and the degree of familiarity a candidate
cultivates matters more than party image. In Goa's pre-statehood days, the
two older parties, the MGP and UGP, had clear representative bases. The
former was mass-based whereas the UGP was dominated by landlords, including
catholics and brahmins. But Goa has seen much transition since then. The
1970s saw land reform legislation, the 1980s onwards the state found
increasing popularity as a tourist destination, more recently, it is a much
sought after industrial hub. Yet, Goa's political leaders are clearly unable
to give voice to the state's new, emerging identity and aspirations. For a
stronger political ethos to emerge, it is simply not enough to put in place
stricter constitutional measures that ensure political defectors are not
rewarded, Goa's changing identity needs to be better reflected by people who
want to represent it in government.
-



Re: [Goanet] Evolution

2005-02-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have it from an evolutionary expert friend of
mine at Harvard (who happened to count the late
eminent evolutionist J. Stephen Gould as a
personal friend and mentor) that by extrapolating
from the population growth rate (approximately 2% per
year) and recorded natural catastrophes the first man
probably existed about 6,000 - 8,000 years ago,
nearly in line with the biblical genealogical record.
 

Did this evolutionary expert friend get this from
Henry Morris, the creationist expert and founder of
The Institute of Creation Research, A Christ-Focused
Creation Ministry?

His 1975 article can be accessed here:

http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-021.htm

I wonder why even after all these years all normal
scientists, including Stephen Jay Gould and the other
Harvard scientists, as well as the Pope have
disregarded this finding in favor of the conventional
theory of human evolution.

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]Re: New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament*

2005-02-24 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Bernado, thank you for your response. But may I  request you to stop
choosing only what suits your tastes? It is important to look with
equanimity  at the positive and the negative sides of any reality. I wish
you had the time (and an open mind above all)  to read my writings in their
totality. Stop picking and choosing bits and pieces. My bibliographical link
below could help you or anyone else interested to trace all my writings from
1972 till today. You will see that since 1995 (following my arrival in
Portugal) I have written much in Portuguese and in Portugal. In today's
globalized world the access to texts is easy anywhere in the world. Only
some nutty  two-tone theorists (defenders of one tone) can believe
otherwise and keep entertaining the rag-pickers like themselves! Only red
rags seem to catch their eye. Perhaps an Iberian tradition of touradas
(bull-fights)  in such preference for one tone?! Real life is made of many
tones and many colours. Let us not divest it from its rich and colourful
diversity.

http:// www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1503/teo_publ.pdf

Teotonio R. de Souza



P.S. Please let me benefit from your knowledge and wisdom: Let me know where
exactly you learnt that we were all slaves for 5 centuries. Or is it just
one more of your over-statements of frustration resulting from some
ill-digested readings?

--



Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:42:22 + (GMT)

From: Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [Goanet]New research on  * Goan MP's in the Portuguese
Parliament*

To: goanet@goanet.org

Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org

 

What lovely, jubley comments Teotonio! Who has been

behind the *ad nauseam* messages on goanet? We were

all slaves for 5 centuries innit?

 

 




Re: [Goanet] 10,000 vs 15 million

2005-02-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- afra dias goanet@goanet.org wrote:
 
OLD WORLD MONKEYS AND APES - DID HUMANS EVOLVE? OR
THEY WERE HAND MADE OUT OF CLAY BY GOD. MONKEYS APES
HUMANS WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, EVOLUTION MY
DEAR.MOSQUITOES BITE HUMANS AS WELL AS APES.
 

Hi Afra,

I like your game. It's fun. So I will play.

The card you are playing now seems to be that we
humans got the Thalassemia mutations from the monkeys
and apes who lived in Greece 15 million years ago
because we evolved from those ancestral Greek
primates. Consistency with your original assertion
would demand further that the mutations in these
distant Greek ancestors would have had to be naturally
selected by evolutionary pressure from severe forms of
malaria.

The card I have contradicts your contention. It says
the following, and it is the current scientific
understanding:

1. Humans evolved from primate ancestors in Africa,
not Greece. The type of monkeys and apes found in
Greece 15 million years ago do not figure in our
direct evolutionary lineage.

2. The types of malarial parasites against which
Thalassemia provides some protection evolved less than
a million years ago. In fact, Plasmodium falciparum,
the most deadly of such parasites evolved no earlier
than 7000 years ago. It first evolved in Africa, then
spread to the Middle East and the Mediterranean
region, then Southeast Asia, and finally, only about
500 years ago, to the Americas.

3. Evidence indicates that Thalassemia mutations
emerged in humans by natural selection due to
evolutionary pressure from severe forms of malaria
only over the past 3000-5000 years. It coincided with
the period of development of agricultural communities
in Africa and the Middle East

4. The malarial parasites that infect apes and monkeys
do not infect humans.

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]RE: [Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Re: London/Delhi £ 99 return - Dep. 11 Jan: 1-4 week stay

2005-02-24 Thread Tony Soares
I am also very sorry Goanet blocked the sender's email address. When I
responded to a posting two of my ex High school classmates who I had not
been in touch with for 35 years responded. So please Goanet, restore the
addresses unless those posting do not want it displayed.

Tony Soares

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Eddie Fernandes
Sent: 23 February 2005 09:54
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Re: [Goanet]Re: London/Delhi £ 99 return - Dep. 11 Jan:
1-4 week stay

Dear Eddie Antao,

I was hoping to reply personally to you but I see that Goanet has
invoked 
the facility that blocks the email address of  the message authors.
Pity, 
because there is much fruitful contact that goes on off the list.

I am not involved with providing flights to Goa - merely reporting
bargains 
I am aware of.  You need to contact travel agents - you will find some
of 
them listed in the sponsors section at http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/

The Nov. and Dec. traditionally includes the  highest and lowest fares.

Last minute fares tend to be far cheaper than those booked months in 
advance.

Other members of the list may wish to offer you advice as well.

Do let me know how you get on with your enquiries - I append my e-mail 
address.

Eddie Fernandes
London
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===

- Original Message - 
From: EDDIE ANTAO goanet@goanet.org
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:34 AM
Subject: [Goanet]Re: London/Delhi £ 99 return - Dep. 11 Jan: 1-4 week
stay


 HI EDDIE.

 DO YOU HAVE ANY FLIGHTS GOING FROM LONDON TO GOA IN THE MONTH OF NOV
AND 
 DEC
 2005

 EDDIE ANTAO








[Goanet]LATEST NEWS: Goa BJP MLA Digambar Kamat resigns

2005-02-24 Thread g:o:a:-:w:o:r:l:d:.:c:o:m
Goa BJP MLA Digambar Kamat resigns
Press Trust of India/Panaji, February 24|11:52 IST
 
 
Prominent BJP MLA Digambar Kamat on Friday resigned
from his seat just a few days ahead of the Rane
Government's confidence vote in Goa Assembly on
February 28.

Kamat handed over his resignation to Legislature
Secretary Sudhir Narvekar and will be addressing a
press conference with GPCC President Luisinio Falerio
at 1200 hrs.

Kamat was considered next-in-line to former Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar.

Both BJP and Congress-led sides had expressed
confidence that they would win the confidence vote,
but had declined to reveal their strategy.
 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1255267,000900040002.htm

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[Goanet]Link: Bombay First

2005-02-24 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Bombay First is a network that promotes civic issues in Mumbai. Check 
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